WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.359 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:07.639 Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:12.480 Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 4 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.160 R two SA at iHeartRadio Stage Yet. 5 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:20.199 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:24.559 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Henry, 7 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:28.199 You're Matthew, and now we have David silver back in 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:30.600 the studio today. Welcome to the show. 9 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.120 Dave. 10 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.920 I'm glad you came back. I'm glad the nil money 11 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:35.479 is sufficient enough for you. 12 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.479 When's when's that supposed to come in sometime? Okay, don't 13 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:40.799 quit on me. Okay. 14 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.880 Like it's happening at one place, I'm sure it's happened 15 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.079 in others. In fact, to Matt Monno and Troy Hunchinson 16 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.759 talked about this about a month ago. I almost fell 17 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.840 on my chair when we talked about it. We're gonna 18 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.119 have Matt coming in the show later on and talk 19 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.479 about that. But did it shock you whatever word you 20 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.880 want to use. But the UNLB kid who left the 21 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.719 team because he wasn't getting paid, it was like. 22 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.000 The first thing I saw on the news this morning, 23 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.280 what they're three, and oh, they're doing pretty well, and 24 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.560 all of a sudden he's announced he's going somewhere else 25 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.519 or he's going to leave the program. And I forget 26 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.200 exactly how it was worded originally. Was he a business 27 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:19.159 decision or something like that, But I guess that's the 28 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.200 way we are living again. I talked about this yesterday 29 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:24.840 where things are have definitely switched up a little bit, 30 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.439 and these guys are business people now and they're supposed 31 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.560 to be getting deals, and apparently he wasn't getting what 32 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:31.159 he expected. 33 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.799 The players are now running the program, yes, pretty much. 34 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:36.560 Even before this, I thought this, and it's what a 35 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:39.000 world we live in, right. I guess I'm just reading 36 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.640 something now that the university in Las Vegas put out 37 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.560 a statement that what he's saying is not true. There 38 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.280 was never an agreement between anybody. I think that that's 39 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.280 what I read yesterday or this morning, where the assistant 40 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.120 coach promised him the one hundred thousand dollars and it. 41 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:55.760 Didn't come through. 42 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.959 I guess he was thinking three thousand a month, which 43 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:03.120 is for student hell is pretty good, but those days 44 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:06.359 are wrong gone, so I guess he They issued a statement, 45 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:11.080 and I guess some collectives at the school issued some 46 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.039 statement and now what they're definitely doing is saying we've 47 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.000 wiped our slate clean from the kid and he's gone, 48 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.159 you know, just like that. Yeah, So it's not a 49 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.159 it's not a shock to me having listened to Mett 50 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.240 what I know and and Troy Hudsonson talking about it 51 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.719 a while back, because it was surprising to me. And 52 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:30.680 before we went on the air, we talked to you 53 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.759 and I just briefly about the Gundy thing with Oklahoma. 54 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.039 We're not going to talk an I l because now 55 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.560 it's my time. I'm the coach, and you'll deal with 56 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.400 that at the end of the year. And we've seen this. 57 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:45.240 We saw this a little with with with Miller Sean 58 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:49.919 here because I remember the Wisconsin coach back in the 59 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.639 day saying we're not going to rent a player the 60 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:56.639 one and done's and not that Miller paid or didn't 61 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.000 pay or whatever, but he was kind of renting players 62 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:00.800 right having in here four years. 63 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.840 So this is the world we're going to live in. 64 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:05.120 It's gonna be interesting because you know, you think of 65 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.719 like the DeAndre Aightens and you know, whatever, the situations 66 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.199 where there were here. They're seriously, they're here for just 67 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.840 a few months. Get them through March and then off 68 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.120 they go. Does the nil money stop at that point? Well, 69 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:17.840 you wonder how these deals are worked out. 70 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:18.319 Who knows. 71 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:19.560 At some point we're going to try to get an 72 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.800 nil a guy in here. We've had ray Wells in 73 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:26.560 a number of times. The question I never asked is 74 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.719 when do the kids get paid? And I said this 75 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.599 to Jay last week after the performance of Kansas State. 76 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:34.479 What world do you live in where you get paid 77 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.840 up front and then you do the work and if 78 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.280 your work sucks, do you get the money back? Probably 79 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:43.159 not exactly. So, So if you get paid and I'm 80 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.280 not saying that's going on, but you get paid and 81 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.919 you look like crap or what's. 82 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:49.879 The motivation to do well? 83 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.159 Yeah, well, then you also look to it. The news 84 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.680 that came out last week with Reggie Bush from USC 85 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.840 he's trying to get nil money from. 86 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:57.800 Fifteen years ago. 87 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.439 It's happening here too. He was playing if you maybe 88 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.159 google Jason Terry and A. J. Brown, they're going back trying. 89 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.560 They're suing a bit because the a the likeness image 90 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.000 and likeness from the turn the national Championship ninety seven. Sure, 91 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.960 because there were photos all over the place, and so 92 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.479 I think they're suing the n C Double A and 93 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.560 CBS because those videos were everywhere. 94 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.399 Of course, so what point's gonna be. That's gonna everybody 95 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:24.519 can do that? Yeah, I mean those videos were been 96 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.920 part of college sports. I'm trying to find my face 97 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.519 anywhere that was worthwhile. Your citizen pictures were. I know 98 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.879 my son loved that citizen picture. 99 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.160 Yeah with Jason Terry. Yeah, yeah, with Jason Terry. Yeah, 100 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:38.839 everyone has that. I have that one. But but who knows. 101 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.360 I mean, good luck with the n with the with 102 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.040 the n C Double A one and the schools because 103 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.199 they're gonna probably lose again. 104 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.720 Right right, I don't know. I mean this is gonna 105 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.439 be interesting to you know. This is this one guy, 106 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.160 this kid, Matthew Sluka from un l V. 107 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:55.199 Who's next. 108 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.519 I mean, there's gonna there's obviously gonna be more stories 109 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:01.319 like this coming out, uh soon think yeah. 110 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.279 So here's the UNLB athletics statement. Football player Matthew Shluka 111 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.920 represented a representative and made financial demands upon the university 112 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.279 and it's NI NIL collective in order to continue playing 113 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:17.279 for unlv you andl athletics and interpreted that demands as 114 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.839 a violation of the NCAA pay for play rules as 115 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.160 well as the Nevada state law. Unability does not engage 116 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.959 in such activity. Yeah, nor does it. 117 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.240 Respond to threats even so clean. 118 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:33.079 Yeah, but but that's what it's come to. Hey, I'm 119 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.040 six and oh can I get a raise? Or or 120 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:35.800 what's my money? 121 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:36.399 Man? Yeah? 122 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.560 Well, I mean you wonder sometimes can they renegotiate in 123 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.600 the middle of the season, or how to how this works? 124 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.959 Good? All of a sudden some guy blossoms and he's 125 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:44.360 their star. 126 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.319 We didn't talk about this yesterday, I don't think to 127 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.160 an extent because you were in the media business. You 128 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:52.120 went to the other side to the development for for 129 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.000 the foundation and then another and we talked a little 130 00:05:55.000 --> 00:06:01.000 about that. Just the difficulty in like the Lumberto right Lumberto. 131 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:03.680 He gets pretty much the kids to stay, quarterback and 132 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.160 receiver to stay and they're done. 133 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.120 Well, I need more. 134 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.920 But he also made a huge gift to the Ler 135 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.519 College to create a you know, a school there too, 136 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.879 So he's he's probably not the best example other than 137 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.759 the fact that he's kind of helping both parts of 138 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.439 the university and that in that regard, whereas a lot 139 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.279 I've had other I remember when I was working there, 140 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.160 there were times where people came to me and they said, listen, 141 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.639 I'm getting letters from this collective. 142 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:29.240 What is that? 143 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.160 They may not be as close to it as you 144 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.680 are or who was at that time, so they weren't 145 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.319 even sure what was going on. If they give money, 146 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.040 is it going to athletics, is it going to just 147 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:38.959 a basketball team or player? 148 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:39.439 Sure? 149 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:41.759 It was confusing, and we've talked about that for the 150 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:45.000 collective when they had the Arizona assist one right for 151 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.519 basketball and because you know, the fans here either they 152 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.000 love you or they kind of love you, or they 153 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.720 actually despise you, but mostly they love you or like 154 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.839 you a little, but they want to see them win. 155 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.399 And I'm saying, okay, what's your level of love and 156 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.560 what's your what's your commitment to the team emotionally, financially 157 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:07.160 or what if it's financially. I can see the heartache 158 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.040 when they lose. You can see emotionally, well that's on you. 159 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:11.439 You fell in love with this girl and then she 160 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:13.800 breaks your heart. Well, whose fault is that? You know? 161 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.079 So if you're willing to help. 162 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:19.759 Give them ten, give them to twenty dollars, give one 163 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.879 hundred dollars, and then you know the number one question 164 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.040 is that you probably heard a thousand times, where's the 165 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:25.800 money going? Right? 166 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:27.120 And how do I know what's going there? 167 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.680 Yeah, well that's in the development world. Speaking as a 168 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.879 former employee there, I mean that was kind of our 169 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:35.399 main thing was we had to make sure the money 170 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.160 was going where the donor wants it to go, whether 171 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.879 it was to you know, support the golf team or 172 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.480 to support the journalism apartment. There were there were specifics 173 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.360 and they would sign an agreement. We would we would 174 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.319 lay out exactly where things were going to go, and 175 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:50.040 that was important. 176 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.040 Well, so to you guys, Henry and to Matt and 177 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.560 to Dave. You have this guy, he's quit on you. 178 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.120 He wanted more money. He was the star quarterback or whatever. 179 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.000 He came from Holy Cross, so he didn't come from 180 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.279 like Michigan or whatever. There's three and no in the 181 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.040 upside Kansas, there's not the team now. He wants to 182 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.279 go to Team X. You're a Team X. 183 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:08.120 Do you want. 184 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.079 Him if he can win me football games? 185 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:11.959 Yeah? 186 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:14.800 But I'm not gonna not ignore what he's done in 187 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.879 the past, that quitting on his team after three games, 188 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.800 that is something you're gonna check. But if he's if 189 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.720 you're a smaller program and he's the best option you got, 190 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:24.680 you're still gonna take it. 191 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.319 Henry, I mean Matt, Yeah. 192 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.639 Same as a coach, I'll definitely look at what he 193 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:34.159 can add to my team. But to pay him one 194 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:36.159 hundred K I don't know coming from. 195 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.559 And I'm not and I'm not asking that. I'm asking 196 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.840 as a former player and student here. Now, do you 197 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.639 want a dude who's playing for you side by side. 198 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.039 You're the running back, he's the quarterback, and he wants 199 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:51.639 more money and you're thinking, dude, we're all. 200 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:52.080 In this together. 201 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.480 No, no, no, I agree with him. I agree. I 202 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.399 one hundred percent agree with him. As a former player, 203 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.879 I agree with him because coaches promised you certain things 204 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.159 and they expect you to deliver on your end. So 205 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.960 when it's time for them to deliver and they don't 206 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.559 show up, I personally don't feel like that's fairst. 207 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.039 Okay, but you're the other coach, You're the other your team, 208 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:10.720 the next next coach. 209 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:12.360 I also think we have to look at it from 210 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:14.759 other players standpoints, they're not gonna want to go to 211 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:16.600 UNLV after seeing this. 212 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.200 That's a great point. That's a great point because you 213 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:25.320 know this, both especially Matthew, and we know this. Covering recruits. 214 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.360 You're promised stuff, right, You're promised playing time or whatever numbers. 215 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:35.080 Guess what, most of the time it doesn't happen exactly. 216 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.320 So yeah, come on, sure, we'll take care of you. 217 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:38.000 Don't worry about it. 218 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.679 And then it's not there, right, So if that happens, 219 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.240 I feel like the player has every right to do 220 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:44.919 what he wants for his personal game. 221 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.720 Meantime, he's he can't go anywhere until December. The portal 222 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:51.039 is closed right now, so he can't. I mean, he's done. 223 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:52.399 I wonder if he's going to claw. 224 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:54.879 This is just I'm wondering, because he has to continue 225 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.600 his eligibility and then how how is he going to 226 00:09:58.639 --> 00:09:59.360 look on campus? 227 00:09:59.440 --> 00:09:59.960 It looks like. 228 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:02.360 You know what I'm saying. 229 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.039 And he's already been at holy Cross with three years. 230 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.759 I think he's going to be one of these six 231 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.240 year players if he wants to go maybe one more 232 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:14.679 year someplace else, yeah wow, and get some money there somewhere. 233 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:16.480 If he's you know, if he can get even one 234 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.879 hundred thousand in Vegas, what can he get. 235 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.480 In a big, big cas Sure? How good is he? 236 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.720 Well, you saw he's a Holy Cross, which is not 237 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.840 a football mecca. He's going to UNW which is not 238 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.120 a football meka. 239 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:29.559 So how good is he really? 240 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.480 He go to Arizona or somewhere else, I guess would 241 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:33.879 he'd be a second stream quarterback? 242 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:34.480 Right? 243 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.240 How much of those one hundred thousand dollars you. 244 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:37.639 Get to tell me? 245 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.279 I don't think so, I don't think so. I'm just 246 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.519 a little surprised by you, Matthew. I was hopeful that 247 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.919 you'd say, I'm not sure I want him on my team, 248 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:45.639 because he's not. 249 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.879 He's in it for himself. It's a it's a fellow, Matthew, 250 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:50.480 that's why. 251 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.480 Well, yeah, what do you mean a former? 252 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.240 What do you mean also named Matthews? Okay, okay, Matthew. 253 00:10:58.759 --> 00:10:59.759 But you know what I'm saying. 254 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.759 I feel but I guarantee other players on that team. 255 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.000 Agree with you. Yeah, I can see it. I can 256 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.559 see it. But God, here's this dude that we're at 257 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.759 New Mexico or whatever. That's when it's called I know, uh. 258 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:15.039 I'm not sure. 259 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.120 I want that dude who gave up on some team 260 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.919 that we're THREEZ and will he give up on us? 261 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:23.679 I mean, yeah, that's that's that's a question. Yeah, you 262 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:24.159 can say that. 263 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.120 But again, let me ask you a personal question. You 264 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:27.519 don't have to answer this. You can give me the 265 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.600 eye side whatever. It's like being cheated. I was gonna 266 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.279 ask you, have you been cheated on? And okay, no, 267 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.720 go ahead, good answer. Let's assume that you had been 268 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.080 would you would you trust that woman again? 269 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:39.519 No? Never? 270 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.720 Well, what's that? But that's not the same thing. Now, 271 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.279 that's that's that's far from the same thing. 272 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:44.919 Wow. 273 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.080 So this guy not that he cheated, but he he 274 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:48.600 left you. 275 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:53.399 Yeah, you promised them something and you didn't deliver, and 276 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.039 that three K is literally what every player on the team. 277 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:57.320 Yeah, right, And that's what they're saying. 278 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:58.279 Yeah, that's what they're saying. 279 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.440 That he's no different than any of the guy that 280 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.000 we're promising the same amount of money. 281 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.840 Right, So I don't know if you promise me something 282 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.120 he don't deliver. I feel like I have the right 283 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:12.840 to do whatever I need to do to get some advantages. 284 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.960 Dave, I need some sound line in this room. 285 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:18.360 I'm just looking at I'm just looking at the big 286 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.600 picture and all these other remembers. Jaden Rashata got Florida 287 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:22.279 and had all this. 288 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:27.559 Money he had. Now he goes to Georgia. He's all 289 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:28.159 over the place. 290 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.480 It's like, I offer you a job and tell you 291 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.120 I'll give you one hundred K for this job, and 292 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.519 then the job comes and I'm paying you not what 293 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:37.360 was on the contract. 294 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:38.000 How would you feel. 295 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.039 I don't need it under I don't need a sensible 296 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:46.200 intern here, No, no good example to get me sure 297 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.679 of course. And the thing about it, there was no contract, right, 298 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:50.679 there was no contract. 299 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:51.679 But that's most of the time. 300 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:52.519 That's kind of how I going. 301 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.799 Sure, sure, no, no, no, I get it, I get it. 302 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.200 You know, come here exactly care. 303 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.960 Yeah, we promised, right, I promised to you forever and 304 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:02.440 then you know, oh dude, I'm sorry. 305 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.399 Found somebody else. Yeah, I get it. To go with 306 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:10.159 my example, Yeah, I don't know. I'm just waiting for 307 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.919 the next story. Interesting. I guarantee you, I guarantee you. 308 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.559 I would bet whatever you want, Dave, And I hope 309 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.360 you're not a gambling man that that this is going 310 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.080 to be the first straw you're going to see more 311 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:26.120 more publicly publicly, and and and and we'll have Matt, 312 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:29.039 like I said, and they warned me, Steve. They're kind 313 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.480 of like, why are you so naive? And I think 314 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.360 I'm not naive. He says, why do you think there's 315 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:33.960 so many transfers at the end of the year. 316 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:35.559 This is part of it. 317 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.360 Yeah, another runner back on the same team did the 318 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:40.000 same thing. 319 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:41.360 And you want to. 320 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.799 Before this just right now, like now, oh, just so 321 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.519 he jumped to just because he wasn't getting paid either. 322 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.840 So I'm saying, you got to start looking at the 323 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.720 coaches now. So you're promising players' money and you're not delivering. 324 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.720 I feel like, hey, yeah, but guess what if it's 325 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.720 happening there are minute that was quick for it's happening there, 326 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.080 I guarantee you it's having other place. 327 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.840 Oh gosh, yes, I mean we heard some of the 328 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.240 dollars that were being a float around USC during the 329 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:12.200 Caleb Williams era. 330 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.080 You know, well, and we know it's been going on forever, right, 331 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:18.840 you know, I don't. 332 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.080 Know about it that magnitude, but I mean those numbers 333 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:21.960 were ridiculous. 334 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.720 Us c your guy, you guy Bush, Reggie had so 335 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.879 many things right, you know, what do you mean? 336 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:29.720 My parents? 337 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.759 Not me? Yeah, if I'm not mistaken. You know those 338 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.559 Heisman commercials that they run, isn't he in them? 339 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:36.519 He isn't one. 340 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.240 I was watching the other night. It's like, wait a second, 341 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.519 he's already. He's already in the Heisman house. He's already back. 342 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:42.279 Give it back. 343 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.240 Okay, okay, so hey, good, good discussion here. We'll talk 344 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.679 more about it obviously. Later we're gonna take our first break. 345 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.879 We're gonna have Ed Bosberg, major league, major leaguer. We're 346 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:53.399 gonna talk about the playoffs. He was in a few 347 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:55.639 wonder World Series. 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