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Use the link in the 18 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:14.200 description and get fifteen percent off your order. 19 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:19.439 Today. 20 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.760 I want to welcome back to the show Ryan Bledsoe. 21 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.680 He has had experiences with supernatural phenomena UFOs and intelligence 22 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:30.719 agencies following an entity encounter in two thousand and seven, 23 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.319 known as one of the most publicly documented cases of 24 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:39.040 all time. He Autohosa podcast Bledsoe said so with his 25 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:44.959 best friend Nick discussing the paranormal, spirituality, UFOs, consciousness, and 26 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:49.400 all things weird beyond the Veil. Ryan, Welcome back. How 27 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:49.879 you doing. 28 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:52.599 I'm doing great, Chris. I'm happy to be back. I 29 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:53.680 had a blast last time. 30 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:53.959 Man. 31 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.120 Yeah, that was awesome. It's great to have you back 32 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.840 on You are already, like I told you, one of 33 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:05.120 my favorite guests because of your seemingly advanced understanding of 34 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.879 not only yours, but yours and your family's experiences and 35 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:14.039 what we call extraterrestrials, UFOs and the paranormal. You've experienced 36 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.159 a wide range of this phenomenon, and you've even had 37 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:21.479 some trying and even dangerous events events unfold for you, 38 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:23.400 which I want to get into a little bit now 39 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.560 for the audience that hasn't seen you last time or 40 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:29.240 may not be familiar with your story, would you mind 41 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.719 giving us a little synopsis of it up to where 42 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:32.599 you are today? 43 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:33.759 Sure? 44 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.199 Yeah, so last time I felt like we ran through 45 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.560 it for quite a while. So I would definitely say 46 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.199 check out the previous episode with me on it, but 47 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.039 just you know, the kind of like. 48 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.159 The synopsis of where we where we were? 49 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.719 Yes, so the decently short version of it, and you 50 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:51.719 know it's sent through fifteen years of context here, but 51 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:54.639 you know that's okay. Back in two thousand and seven, 52 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:59.599 my father had just an incredible experience with orbs and 53 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.280 beings light and what most people would know as aliens 54 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.520 or interdimensional entities or angels or what have you. And 55 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.080 shortly after that he was on the Discovery Channel, and 56 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.039 then the rest is history got involved with like NASA, CIA, 57 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:17.159 all kinds of three letter agencies with the Department of Defense, 58 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:19.879 and that's been going on fifteen years. And here we 59 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:23.479 are today. I'm coming up on one year of my podcast. 60 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.520 Bleds have said, so as you can see, I'm in 61 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:26.319 the studio now. 62 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.159 So awesome, man, how's that going, by the way, Oh. 63 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.080 It's going great. I mean, I was just checking the 64 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.319 numbers today because I'm a little sappy because our one 65 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.479 year is in two days. So we've just been really 66 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.719 you know, talking things through and kind of looking back. 67 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.639 And at some point last month we had hit number 68 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:45.159 one on the charts for spirituality categories. So it's going 69 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.840 far better than I could have ever imagined. I mean, 70 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.719 it's just best case scenario, and we're so grateful and 71 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.960 blessed and it's just been a wild ride, man, Yeah, 72 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:54.439 it has. 73 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.240 I love the way podcasting is going. I love how 74 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.360 many different voices I can listen to now with such 75 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.039 wonderful content and information. Hopefully it doesn't get smashed down 76 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.599 on through censorship, but you know, I have my hopes 77 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.680 up that we are still the last frontier here. How 78 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.319 does your family feel about your podcasting? You know, after 79 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:14.319 everything that's happened. 80 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.240 I think at first they supported me just because I 81 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.279 was their family member and they didn't quite know like 82 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.519 what I was going to say or anything like that. Now, 83 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.040 with the success we've had and kind of what has 84 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.240 turned out to be and the positivity that we've put out, 85 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:28.680 they're all on board. They're behind me one hundred percent, 86 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.759 and they couldn't be happier with me and for me. 87 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.800 So it's just great all around. 88 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.439 Right on. Man, Now, what I want to get into 89 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.680 today is a little bit deeper into your understanding of 90 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.000 the phenomenon and what is happening right now with the 91 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:48.920 disclosure and the deceptions that we're seeing, the infiltrations into 92 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.519 people in this community. I've been to plenty of UFO conferences. 93 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.360 I don't do them anymore because they just put a 94 00:04:56.360 --> 00:05:00.439 bad taste in my mouth from all the insertion of 95 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.000 former three letter agency individuals, people who are there just 96 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.800 to muddy the water, people who are just there for 97 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:10.240 attention and have these crazy, wild stories. So you got 98 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:15.639 this mix of just misinformation and disinformation about what extraterrestrials 99 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.639 and UFOs and this phenomena really is. And I think 100 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.360 you know, to best understand it, you have to experience 101 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.360 it yourself. Now I've had my own experiences. It's not 102 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.560 what I would with what I would consider UFOs or extraterrestrials. 103 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.879 It's what I would consider my spirit guides or ancestors 104 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:33.720 and things like that. To me, it's a much more 105 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.959 spiritual phenomenon. But to each his own, because I know 106 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:41.399 there is probably some physical aspects to this that I 107 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:45.480 just don't understand yet. And there's this whole phenomenous like 108 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.560 a massive onion that you keep peeling and peeling, and 109 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.199 you can't get to the center of h from the 110 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:56.120 time you first had your experience to now, how has 111 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:00.319 your understanding of what ET or an extraterrestrial is it? 112 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:01.480 Has that changed? 113 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.000 Yeah, And before I dive into that question, I just 114 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.720 want to say you said it flawlessly. That was I 115 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.600 just couldn't say it any better about how you know, 116 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.920 like the UFO subject or crowd or what have you 117 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.959 has definitely been infiltrated by bad actors and things of 118 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.160 that sort. And to be honest with you, that's why 119 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.680 I want nothing to do with that sort of crowd 120 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.680 or conference or anything. I'm not knocking people that believe 121 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:26.480 in the subject, but it's more so than the people 122 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.879 that want to speak for the subject. And anyway, I 123 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.800 just totally agree with you one hundred percent what you 124 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.480 said about that. And yeah, so the experience has started 125 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.800 when I was thirteen years old. I'm twenty eight now, 126 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.399 going on twenty nine in a month and some change 127 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.720 in a few days. So it's coming up on sixteen 128 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.319 years this year that we've kind of been this well 129 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.800 known normal family throughout the world. And I got to say, 130 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.680 like growing up on the inside of the subject with 131 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.480 the people coming around and poking and prodding and demanding 132 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.759 answers and wanting to keep in your yard and wanting 133 00:06:58.800 --> 00:06:59.839 to know what it's all about. 134 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:00.639 It. 135 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.040 It was a pretty it was a pretty wild upbringing. 136 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.680 And I would say that since my childhood, I have 137 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.600 probably had thousands of personal experiences, whether I'm by myself 138 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.480 or with my wife or friends or family with my dad, 139 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.839 varying from seeing tiny dots zipping around the sky and 140 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:24.439 blinking and disappearing to actually having entities in my room 141 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.800 touched me on my body. I just got to say, man, 142 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:33.480 I don't buy anything that the government, the one percent, 143 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.040 the mainstream media, whatever you want to call the boogeyman. 144 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.959 There's definite boogeyman. I don't buy it. It completely doesn't 145 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.199 rock with my personal experience. That's not to say that 146 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.319 there might not be some sort of physical phenomenon somewhere 147 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.720 out of the universe. I mean, I couldn't possibly know that. 148 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.560 I haven't been to space. I don't I don't even 149 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.959 know that that they're really going to space, you know, 150 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:54.879 I don't know that they're really coming from space. But 151 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.720 in my experience, what I can speak to is the 152 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.439 phenomenon that I have been reacted with around my family 153 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.160 and others has been a spiritual phenomenon. It's been light, 154 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.079 it's been energy, it's been magical, you know, like you 155 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.040 read about ancient folklore with the genies and the fairies 156 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.279 and the angels and the things like that. It's been 157 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.240 more like that with them making profound things happen at 158 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.439 just the right time, at just the point in your 159 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.720 life when you needed some sort of sign or guidance 160 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.399 or whatsoever. And I would say, like, I'm one hundred 161 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.680 percent on board with the fact that it is a 162 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:28.720 spiritual phenomenon. 163 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.480 Yes, And it seems to be extremely personal as well 164 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:38.600 for those that are experience having a genuine experience. These 165 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:42.279 kind of group experiences that you rarely hear about are 166 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:48.080 usually nefarious and probably involved the military to some degree. 167 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.320 But most people's experiences they grow from it. They have 168 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.639 spiritual growth. They kind of experience this sense of wanting 169 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.720 to better themselves and do better in their lives. And 170 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:05.159 the information given to most people had genuine contact experiences 171 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:10.360 is either for their own benefit or the immediate benefit 172 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.600 of people surrounding them. And it's a very personal thing, 173 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.759 and it seems to be atched to personal spiritual growth 174 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:21.360 and when people after people have these experiences they are better, 175 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.519 and they don't are less trusting of mainstream type of 176 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:31.240 information and Daddy government and things that they're trying to 177 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:36.279 expose right now. So I can see why the government 178 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.879 would want to kind of sway, what's really happening to 179 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.399 something that is completely different, right. 180 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.480 Right, Absolutely, I'm right there with you, man. It's like 181 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.480 everybody that's been around, they have all these ideas, and 182 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.559 I just want to, you know, put out a little 183 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.200 reminder that, you know, growing up from childhood, I've had 184 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.240 hundreds of people come to my property just to get 185 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:58.720 a piece of my dad and meet him and hear 186 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.919 the story. I've met so many, countless number of people 187 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.960 who who are are wanting to figure out like what 188 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.679 this thing is. And everybody that comes to our property 189 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.600 and has some sort of sighting, they leave with their 190 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:13.279 mind utterly melted from what they thought that it should 191 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.159 have been or would have been, or what have you. 192 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.519 And many of them, if not most, were either meant 193 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.080 to be there to see this for some, you know, 194 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.000 very incredibly personal purpose, like having gone through trauma or 195 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:29.840 tragic death in the family that affected them deeply, and 196 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:34.440 a lot of them walk away feeling like they were 197 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.559 renewed in the sense that there is a higher power 198 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.840 that's watching them and hears their cries and is willing 199 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.799 to help. And I do believe that is the case. 200 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:44.799 I do believe that if we wanted to get out 201 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:48.080 of the box and speculate, I think again, if you 202 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.639 look at these ancient descriptions of entities from you know, 203 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.480 the mystical texts and even the exoteric texts of the past, 204 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.639 like the Bible and what have you, it's probably the 205 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.120 closest description that would make a lot of sense to 206 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.080 what this phenomenon is. It's very personal, it's very it's 207 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:07.279 very spiritual. It's it actually hears you. It actually hears 208 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.799 your thoughts and your cries out for help and things 209 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.879 like that. And typically that's when they appear, is when 210 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:13.200 people really need it. 211 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:17.919 Yeah, exactly, man, Now, does your family still live in 212 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:19.000 that same property? 213 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.480 No, not quite, that we moved out. I was actually 214 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.639 still living with my parents back then when we moved out, 215 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.120 just out of college, so that was probably twenty sixteen. Yeah, 216 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:30.919 I think it was late twenty sixteen. And now they 217 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.240 live just across town, a hop and skip away on 218 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.799 actually an even more active property where the experience is 219 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.120 ramped up entirely because it's it's pretty, uh shaded out 220 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.200 in the woods on a thirteen acre lot on a 221 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:43.960 body of water. 222 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.639 So a lot of followed you guys, so it's attached 223 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:49.120 to your family for some reason. 224 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:53.919 Correct, That seems to be the case. And the activity 225 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.799 actually picked up when they moved, a lot of people 226 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:57.600 thought maybe it was the property. And I get why 227 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.919 people would think that it's a valid, you know, assumption, 228 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.279 but it definitely followed. 229 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:06.720 Man, that's crazy. Now, you said you've had experiences until now, 230 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.120 have you had any that you'd like to talk about? 231 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.120 So maybe that stick out in your mind a little 232 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:12.879 bit more than others. 233 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.440 Sure, So probably the most wild experience I've had in 234 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.320 my entire life. And I want to just put up 235 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.519 a hand of caution here. I actually do the hand. 236 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:25.720 I'm a man of my word and say to those 237 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:27.639 of you, if you're listening and you have no clue 238 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.879 who I am or any of my background whatsoever, I 239 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.440 would urge you to really, after this or before this, 240 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:36.480 if you want to pause, that's totally cool. Go go 241 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:38.399 just check out who we are and like what the 242 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:40.120 experience is, because this is going to be really weird, 243 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:41.360 and it's not going to make a lot of sense 244 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.639 if you don't, if you don't have any clue what 245 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:44.279 we're discussing. 246 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:45.519 How we live weird here? 247 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.200 Great? Great, Yeah, I love the weird as well. It's 248 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.039 basically my life since childhood. So here's what happened. So 249 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.240 I'm eighteen years old. This is five years after my 250 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.799 dad has already been you know, talked about around the 251 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.200 world for the documentary, and the hundreds of people have 252 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:00.720 been coming to our proper and this and that and 253 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:02.639 the other. We'd have tents out in our yard. My 254 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.399 dad's just such a nice man. He would just let 255 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.159 Boddy and everybody come over, even the Department of Defense. 256 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.120 I mean still to this day, they're coming around and 257 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.320 they're calling, and my dad is just so nice. He 258 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.720 can always close the door, and I totally don't blame him. 259 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.720 And I would say the weirdest experience is I was 260 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.240 eighteen years old. I was a freshman in college, So again, 261 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.639 five years after the initial encounter, and I know this 262 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.120 was twenty twelve because this was within months, if not weeks, 263 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.879 after my dad had his most profound encounter of all, 264 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.679 which will this be on video Chris, Yes, okay, So 265 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:38.799 if the audience can see right behind me here, I'm 266 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:40.639 not sure if the image will be reversed or not. 267 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.879 But this depiction right here is what my dad encountered 268 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.480 in twenty twelve. It was a female entity. It was 269 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.240 roughly floating four foot off the ground. She was ethereal 270 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.000 like a ghost like being. She had a flowing white 271 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:57.799 dress that twinkled like the stars, blonde hair, blue eyes. 272 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.080 Changed his life, and she had a lot of things 273 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.480 to tell him that we do the great detail about 274 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:08.600 in our podcast on episode seventeen, And it totally up 275 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.679 to you. I'd be willing to talk about that here 276 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:12.480 wherever you want to go, I'm happy to do that. 277 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.600 But to get to point, shortly after my dad had 278 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.480 that encounter, I had an encounter very similar, not that 279 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.799 I saw her, but that I kind of heard her 280 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.840 in a sense. It was very strange. So for a 281 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.200 little context, when this being first appeared to my dad, 282 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.279 she looked like a bull, like a ghostly spiritual bull, 283 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.720 and it ran through him and knocked him over, and 284 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.120 he didn't feel anything physical. It felt like a powerful wind. 285 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.360 And then when he turned over and kind of like 286 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:38.799 got up on his hands and knees. That's what he 287 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.679 was looking at, was this beautiful blonde hair, blue eyed woman. 288 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.440 So weeks or months I can't remember because this was 289 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.879 literally ten years ago, but weeks or months had passed, 290 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.440 same year, without a doubt. I know, same year because 291 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.360 we were talking about this experience, and it might have 292 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.519 been summer, it might have been a couple, you know, 293 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.960 within a month or two after the initial thing happened. Anyway, 294 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.360 I'm outside, I'm talking to like, I don't understand Dad, 295 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.799 Why am I having these profound aggiences? But you and 296 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.519 Mom and Chris Junior and my oldest brother who was 297 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.399 there with my dad that first night, I'm like, why 298 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.960 are you three having these experiences and seeing all these 299 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.840 things and these entities sometimes and even my brother Jeremy 300 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:17.840 had caught a glimpse of one, and I was like, 301 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.159 I don't understand why I'm not having such close and 302 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.120 personal encounters. It's like I'm not, you know, deserving of it, 303 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:25.639 or it wants nothing to do with me. And I 304 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.279 was just really down and out. And my dad was like, 305 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.879 you don't get a son, You're not ready because of 306 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:34.519 your attitude, and your attitude is that you don't even 307 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.120 accept them for what they are. You have doubt in 308 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.960 your mind. And I said, well, I mean, you know, 309 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:40.799 it's just hard for me to believe that they're listening 310 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:42.399 to me at all times. How could they do that 311 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:44.759 if they're up there with their technology, There's no way 312 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.120 they could. They could listen to me from miles and 313 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.080 miles or even light years away and know what I'm 314 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.240 thinking and know what I'm saying. I just wasn't ready 315 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.679 to accept that. And he said, son, you don't get it. 316 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.120 They're magical. They hear your thoughts, they know what you're thinking, 317 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:00.480 they know what you're doing, and they and they basically 318 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:02.240 you know, are not going to show to you until 319 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.120 you're ready. And within minutes I forgot to mention. We 320 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.080 were outside in our yard, in the backyard, late at 321 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.360 night on a summer It was a six acre yard, 322 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.000 so our backyard was literally like the size of a 323 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.039 football field, if not three quarters of one perhaps, and 324 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:18.639 we were out in the back just looking up at 325 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.039 bars like we did. And right about that time, I 326 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:25.919 heard a cow move in my backyard and I looked 327 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:29.279 at my dad with big bright eyes, and I knew 328 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.360 what it was deep down, but I didn't say that 329 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.279 I believed it or accepted it. I was kind of 330 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.159 irritated that that was how I had chosen to appear 331 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.759 to me. And I was like, Dad, you know, maybe 332 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.879 the neighbors have a cow. Whatever. Our neighbors did not 333 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:43.879 have a cow. The neighbors on the other side were 334 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.519 my grandparents. They clearly don't have cows. I would have 335 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.840 known that there was a fence on all sides of 336 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.120 the property. There was no way any sort of cow 337 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.279 could have walked onto our property. Not to mention, my 338 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.720 dad went driving around the area the next day and 339 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.840 the closest cows were over five miles away minimum, so 340 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.319 there was no physical colum this property anyway. So right 341 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.000 about the time I heard the first cow, I look 342 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.880 at my dad. He looks at me, and then another 343 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.440 one moves, and then a third one moves, and then 344 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.279 a fourth one, and then a fifth one, and then 345 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:15.200 we hear four or five cows moving over each other, 346 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.680 like it was a freakin' farm, just cows and cows moving, 347 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.279 and it was so loud that we couldn't even hear 348 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:21.640 each other speak. And then he looked at me and 349 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.799 he said, you got your experience and it took me 350 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.400 eight or nine years to realize that these entities were 351 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.319 moving like a cow just to for lack of better words, 352 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.319 mess with me. So I would never forget the impact 353 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.039 of that experience. And that was definitely one of my 354 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:39.359 more bizarre ones. And I didn't see anything. Might I 355 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.920 add it was only sound, But still. 356 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.960 That's crazy that that reminds me of just some of 357 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.359 the trickster aspects I've heard from some of these entities. 358 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:53.880 It's like, not necessarily nefarious, but it seems that they 359 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:58.279 try and playful, but to get you to start thinking 360 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.440 in a certain way or a different way. It reminds 361 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.519 me of the story I had doctor Gregory litl On, 362 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:05.559 and I think I've told this a couple of times, 363 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.079 but he was interviewing a Native American gentleman for his 364 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.319 new book, and he said, these little blue things would 365 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.440 come out of the walls and tickle him and mess 366 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.400 with him, and he hated him at first, but when 367 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.319 he accepted him and just you know, trying to gave in, 368 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.839 they give him profound cosmic knowledge and knowledge of himself. 369 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:24.799 And it was a beautiful experience after that. And that 370 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.279 seems to be kind of on par with some of 371 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.599 these people who claim to be getting information from somewhere 372 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.599 else or other entities. Maybe these things are messing with 373 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.920 him and giving them, you know, bs to start with, 374 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.799 and is not until they kind of reach a certain 375 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.880 point or certain realization that they'll start giving them the 376 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.440 truth about things. It's a kind of maybe tricksterious, but 377 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.279 growth type of experience for these people. What do you 378 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:50.799 think about that one? 379 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.559 That's been my experience one hundred percent. I agree with 380 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.160 you wholeheartedly, and I kind of have the suspicion, well 381 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.880 not kind of really. I actually fully leave this. I'm 382 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.119 not even going to hold back our front. I believe 383 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.200 that these beings, at least the ones that I have 384 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.200 observed and interacted with. I can't speak for other people's 385 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.200 experiences whom I have not met, but the ones that 386 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.599 I've interacted with or what have you, it seems to 387 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.720 be that when they interact with people, they take you 388 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:23.039 on some sort of very gradual initiatory journey where at 389 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.480 every level when you're seeing them, it's divine timing. It's 390 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:31.079 right when you need it. It's not always just random. 391 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.119 It's actually never random in my experience, when people come 392 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:36.160 to our property to see something. It was something they 393 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.240 needed and they leave typically transformed on a spiritual level. 394 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.480 And I do believe that these beings of light are 395 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.920 showing up in mass around the world. I mean, the 396 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.279 videos are all over the Internet. People are seeing orbs 397 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:49.160 and beings of light and what have you. And I 398 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:54.240 fully believe that they are highly, if not highest advanced 399 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:59.160 forms of consciousness that are coming to take the human 400 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.200 race on an individual on an individual to individual basis, 401 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.880 form of initiatory journey to higher levels of awareness of 402 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.519 consciousness and what have you. It's it's a very spiritual 403 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:12.160 individual journey. 404 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.519 Yeah, I think one hundred percent. Now I want to 405 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:21.359 get back to the deception here and those behind the 406 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.759 scenes that don't want to us to figure out that 407 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.839 it's a spiritual phenomenon. It's for our consciousness evolution. Uh, 408 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:31.240 could you tell us a little bit about your experiences 409 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:34.279 with some of these three letter agencies. I know that 410 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.839 you've had varying types, some not so bad and and 411 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.799 some really awful. But what are some of the most 412 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.000 profound ones that the audience really should know about how 413 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:45.079 these guys operate. 414 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:48.720 Yeah, so exactly like you said, some of them have 415 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.039 not been so bad like, for example, very kind individual. 416 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.279 He's been nothing but nice and endearing to my family. 417 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.480 And he's probably someone that your audience may recognize if 418 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.799 there are any ufohad or read up on the sub whatsoever. 419 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:03.920 Not to say that I endorse any of this material, 420 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.759 but you know, speaking of which, his name is Jim Simmivan. 421 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.799 He is the how can I say this? He he's 422 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.160 the I believe he's the vice president of To the 423 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.000 Stars Academy, very high level CIA officer, very nice guy. 424 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:20.559 As I've said, he's been very kind to my family. 425 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.599 I got one percent know everything he's about behind the scenes, 426 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:26.680 and I can't speak to you know, endorse or deny 427 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:28.680 or anything of that nature. But what I can say 428 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.279 is he he's been a very extraordinarily kind man to 429 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:35.039 my family. Very powerful individual. Ran the spy program for 430 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:38.680 the United States Central Intelligence Agency. And that's just one 431 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.200 example of meeting some people where you know, every time 432 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.559 you speak, it's just nothing but kindness and niceness, and 433 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.839 you know, cendia gifts and who knows, maybe that's on 434 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.119 purpose to get us to trust him. I honestly don't 435 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.400 know at this point. You know, it doesn't help me 436 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.279 to speculate so much anymore. And then there are others 437 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:59.039 who I've met who I will very carefully say associated 438 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.839 with the C or I should say, associated with the 439 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.440 d i A. And they have quite literally levied death 440 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:09.880 threats on my family just for being ourselves and tru 441 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.759 tell our story in any sort of public capacity. Naturally, 442 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:14.359 what did that do? That fired me up? That maybe 443 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.160 mad as hell here I am. I'm telling you harder 444 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.119 than ever before. I don't like being told what to do, 445 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:21.720 especially if by anybody who doesn't have my best interest 446 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.200 at heart. And there were let's see, there there have 447 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.960 been lots of NASA people come to our house, lots 448 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.359 of lots of CIA, like a handful of them. At 449 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:34.559 least half a dozen have been over to our property 450 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.119 personally interacted with DARPA, NSA, Homeland Security, Army Intelligence, obviously 451 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.759 Central intelligence. I've already said that one, Navy intelligence, Air 452 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.200 Force intelligence, pretty much met all of them. And it's 453 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.319 a mix, It's a very mixed bag. Some of them 454 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:52.880 are not kind. I would even wager to say some 455 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.519 of them have been assholes and have not had am 456 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:56.920 I allowed to curse on the show, by the way, 457 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.240 of course, Yeah, Okay, great, great, Yeah, some of them 458 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.319 have been quite literally like assholes to my family and 459 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.559 have not had our best interests in heart. And then 460 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:06.680 some of them, as I've said, have been really kind. 461 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.920 So I could go into any one or the other 462 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:09.680 more and. 463 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:11.759 Yeah, I'd like I'd like to hear about some of 464 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.720 the some of the bad ones, and then some of 465 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.440 the good ones. Let's just the ones that really stick out, 466 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.400 maybe an example or two of. 467 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.240 Each, Okay, And for the sake of what I'm discussing here, 468 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.279 I'd rather not say names because that that's just not 469 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.920 very you know, that's that's it's not very safe territory. 470 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:34.119 But again, I would very carefully say an individual who 471 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:39.200 was associated with the CIA, meaning he was a civilian 472 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:44.359 sent by an active high ranking CIA officer. Because here's 473 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.880 the kicker. According to the government's website, according to the 474 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:53.119 United States of American Policy, whatever you want to call it, 475 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.519 all is about Department of Defense and how they operate 476 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:00.519 foreign and domestic technically, if you believe in these stupid lies, 477 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.759 the CIA does not operate on US soil. I already 478 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:06.279 know that's a croc of shit. They tell me. Some 479 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:09.960 of the hits that they've done on American soil. But anyway, technically, 480 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.160 according to the law, they're not supposed to operate on 481 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.160 US soil. They're supposed to be domestic, I mean foreign. 482 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.559 The FBI is supposed to be domestic. But I know 483 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:21.119 that's not the case, and they have lots of ways 484 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:24.920 to get around that and harass and terrify and I 485 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.359 haven't observed this, but maybe in some cases harm inn 486 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:32.799 as an American citizens. Anyway, So this gentleman was sent 487 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.519 to my property by a CIA officer who my father 488 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.160 did speak on the phone with. He was who he 489 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:39.880 said he was. We checked up on him with other 490 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:43.319 CIA agents. Very real guy. He sent this civilian to 491 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.559 our property to get through that little loophole about the 492 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.039 whole domestic versus foreign thing. And this guy came to 493 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.160 our property, he harassed my dad. He's stuck around for 494 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.839 five or six days. He just wouldn't leave, no matter 495 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:56.759 how kindly my dad told him he needed him to leave. 496 00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:58.880 He'd get a hotel down the street and he'd come back. 497 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.000 And my dad is such a nice guy. He's not 498 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.599 just going to physically throw off, you know, anybody off 499 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.319 of his property unless they've gone way too far. And 500 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:10.599 this guy, over the course of these days started saying 501 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.559 some really out of character things about his CIA contact 502 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.160 and even called him and put him on the phone 503 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.079 on a three way call one time and introduced him 504 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.720 and things like that. So he really was who he 505 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.799 said he was. And not to mention, this guy had 506 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:26.960 a family history of extremely powerful political figures in his 507 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.319 family tree. I'm trying to be vague so that this 508 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:35.279 individual's identity can't be discovered, but he had very powerful 509 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:38.559 Washington d c. Type family members, So it was it 510 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.559 was just no coincident or coincidence or accident that he 511 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.160 was connected to the Central Intelligence Agency, if you catch 512 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.559 my drift. He was a very connected figure. And he 513 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.319 straight up told my dad at one point after this 514 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:50.920 five or six day period that he could put a 515 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:55.920 bullet my mother and my brother's head if he if 516 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.720 my father didn't tell his story and his experiences the 517 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.319 way that this dark group I wanted my father too. 518 00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.599 And at that point, I kid you not, inn Orb 519 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.240 appeared behind him, scared the shit out of him. He 520 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.839 went away and he never came back, in true cowardly fashion. 521 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.480 And yeah, and it's crazy, that's the funniest part. It's 522 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.880 like ever since then, they haven't been quite as a 523 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.079 crazy on threats. I think they know that if they 524 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.960 fuck with us, that something will fuck with them, just 525 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.319 like it does a skin ranch. But anyway, yeah, so 526 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.279 he called me on the phone. I didn't know what 527 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.400 his intentions were at first. And naturally, when you were 528 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:32.279 a young twenty something year old kid at the time, 529 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.680 because this was, you know, probably five years ago. When 530 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:36.559 you're like a young twenty something year old kid, you 531 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.079 always want to meet meet the CIA guy. You always 532 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:42.200 want to talk to the NASA guys. I don't think 533 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.440 so anymore. It's it's not as cool anymore, you know 534 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.720 what I mean, because in my experiences, he talks to 535 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.359 me on the phone and he literally tells me that 536 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.799 he's a builder Burger and that basically he believes that 537 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:57.200 God and Satan are one being, and that he and 538 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.480 his friends are his little shadow organ his in the 539 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.839 CIA are actuallying. He told me this verbatim, he said, 540 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.200 and in this terminology he said that his group is 541 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.440 trying to usher in the new World Order to bring 542 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.359 a new age for humanity, and that God and Satan 543 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.119 are one entity, and that all the catastrophes that have 544 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.359 been caused around the world, such as nine to eleven, 545 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.279 the vague. These were his words. Mind you, these specific 546 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.000 incidents too, He referenced them. He said, nine to eleven, 547 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.799 nine to eleven, the Vegas shooting back in twenty fifteen 548 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.160 or sixty. You recall he said that those events were 549 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:38.400 done by their demonic god in order to whip us 550 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.720 into shape with tough love that we just don't understand. 551 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:43.400 That's the kind of shit that some of these fringe 552 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:48.880 groups in the CIA believe and are operating on. And yeah, 553 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.440 so it's just crazy stuff. And some of them have 554 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.279 been incredibly kind, and they act all big about how 555 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:56.960 they believe in God and Jesus, and it's just like, 556 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.640 you never know, there's some really strange fringed in these 557 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:01.880 intelligence agencies. 558 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.240 They're definitely that would kind of solidifie my thought and 559 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:09.680 theory that there's not just a pyramid structure we're looking 560 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:13.000 at that there's different factions kind of yeah, fighting for 561 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:17.000 control over in slavery, over humanity. I just show with 562 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.359 Charlie Robinson the other day. We're going to get too 563 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.400 deep into that, but we would The title of the 564 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.519 show was the Fourth Right versus the Babylonian Death Cult. 565 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.759 I love that. That's so clever. 566 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.319 Well, it looks at, you know, two different sides of 567 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:35.160 these control systems that are trying to fight for humanity basically, 568 00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.960 and that's what we're looking at. I think on the 569 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.279 deepest level, is this really kind of what you say, 570 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:46.319 far right extremist type of uh faction that's trying to 571 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.799 get you know, the slavery and control and then another 572 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.799 far left extremest faction that's like sacrificing babies and Nicolet 573 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.559 magic and it's you know, it's crazy. 574 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.720 Right, be clever, Chris, I love that. I'm going to 575 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.359 run with that, man, I'll be sure to reference you. 576 00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.640 But that's that's genius. The Fourth Reich versus the Babylonian 577 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.119 Death Cult. That's an epic. But yeah, no, I totally 578 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.960 agree with you. And it's it's just wild. Like I 579 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.799 know this for a fact as well, because I've been 580 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:19.200 told this directly by people in the CIA. They are 581 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.960 deeply immersed in the lore and the literature of the 582 00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.839 mystical occult bodies of knowledge. I've personally had conversation with 583 00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.759 very high level CIA officers who have actually recommended mystical 584 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.119 and occult studies to me. So, however you slice it 585 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.799 or dice it, Uh, they believe it. They know and 586 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.079 believe that it's all real, the mystical knowledge and what 587 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.119 have you, and on our show just kind of a 588 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.680 caveat here on our show, Bledso said, So, I really 589 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.720 like to relate these deeper mysteries oftentimes to pop culture 590 00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.559 because I feel like for for general demographics and general 591 00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.200 audiences who aren't very well versed in these mysteries and 592 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.599 in the UFO subject, it's just very approachable. And what 593 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.440 I would say in that case, if anybody's caught up 594 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.200 on some of the really cool shows right now, I'm 595 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.799 not going to say any spoilers, but just the name 596 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.079 of you, Stranger Things and The Boys. Both of them 597 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.680 are like the hottest shows in the world right now, 598 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.359 and I'm actually watching both, so they're fresh on my mind. 599 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.640 And both of them, Okay, light spoiler, light spoiler for 600 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.680 anyone who's listening, skip forward like twenty seconds. But both 601 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.759 of these shows, season three, which is the current one 602 00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.839 of The Boys, and season four Stranger Things. Both of 603 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.119 them have the same premise and it's two factions of 604 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.640 the government or the corporate oligarchy fighting against each other 605 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.200 behind the scenes and a shadow structure, and it's like, 606 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.880 I mean, you know, they're really laying it all right 607 00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.960 there for us normies to see. So I think he 608 00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:43.400 nailed it. 609 00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:43.640 Man. 610 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.400 Now what do you think that they're doing at the 611 00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.640 highest level with the mainstream deception of what we're told 612 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.319 about UFOs and ETS and what they're trying to portray 613 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.160 this as and the certain players that they've inserted in here. 614 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.440 What do you think the end goal is with this? 615 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.319 Is it just to keep us from understanding it as 616 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.839 much as possible or do they have more nefarious agendas 617 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:07.799 in mind? Possibly? 618 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.359 I mean I would be lying if I said I 619 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.160 knew one hundred percent. But my take, my speculation is 620 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.240 through a mix of personal conversations with some of these 621 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.039 individuals and just research online and what have you. I 622 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.559 know this for a fact. This has been told to me. 623 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:31.519 There are members of the CIA and American intelligence agencies 624 00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:36.200 such as Naval Intelligence, Air Force Intelligence, and Army intelligence 625 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.599 again as well as NASA and CIA and DARPA who 626 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:49.880 are actively engaged in studying practical applications of occult ceremonial 627 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:58.880 magic psychic perception, energy healing techniques, and combative energy techniques 628 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.799 such as ancient Tibetan death touch or excuse me, Chinese 629 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.880 chigung death touch techniques, which they have successfully done. That's 630 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.039 the secret behind the men who steric goats. That's actually 631 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.200 really how they killed it was chigung den mock, which 632 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.640 is an energy technique rents for deadly energy into your 633 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.279 fingers and disperse it through the body of the subjective 634 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.759 what have you. And I was told that they were 635 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:26.279 developing this for world type situations, you know, overseed, you know, 636 00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:29.160 black ops type research. But anyway, what I'm getting at is, 637 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.359 I know without a doubt these people and these agencies 638 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.480 are studying ritual oculd magic. I know they believe it. 639 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.920 They've told me. And my point from this is I 640 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.960 believe at the highest levels they are practicing these things 641 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.400 using these applicants because they're desperately trying to reach out 642 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.079 beyond the veil and communicate with with entities or what 643 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.680 have you. And if they have I would certainly probably 644 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.400 say that they've been dark entities, not the good ones 645 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.480 for sure, because they've told us that they've told us, 646 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.400 not that they've communicated with dark entities. That part is 647 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.400 my speculation. But they've told us that they can't communicate 648 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.400 with these positive entities. They don't want anything to do 649 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.880 with them. That's why they've been the government, that's why 650 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.079 they've been coming to my parents' property all these years, 651 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.039 because they're dying on what the fuck these beings want 652 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:15.720 for humanity. 653 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.640 Wow, man, So you have never had a negative experience 654 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.799 or a dark entity experience? Correct? 655 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.799 I have once. I saw a shadow entity move across 656 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.599 a wall at a time in my life where things 657 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:38.200 around my family and my property were extremely dark, extremely chaotic, 658 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.200 extremely negative. I did see one shadow type figure move 659 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.400 across the wall, but since then I have not had 660 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:49.319 any I've not had any negative, dark, or any sort 661 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.319 of scary experiences of that kind. 662 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.319 Right on check out our friends at Linguistity Gifts. Linguistity 663 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:03.839 Gifts is a metaphysical story offering natural gymstone bead bracelets, 664 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:08.239 signature and zodiac designed and made in the United States, 665 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.920 as well as raw and polished stones, crystal balls, pendulums, 666 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:19.280 tarot cards, natural crystal points, wands, and so much more. 667 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:25.320 They're beautiful signature design bracelets can aid with creativity balance 668 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.960 focus and well being. Visit their website using the link 669 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.440 in the description, or visit Linquistitygifts dot com and use 670 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.119 coupon code FKN to get ten percent off your first 671 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:41.599 order over twenty dollars. No, that makes a lot of 672 00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.000 sense that they would be trying to horness whatever type 673 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.519 of entities or energy that these beings have. I mean, 674 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.800 look at everything that they've done in places like skin 675 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.519 Walker Ranch. I mean, normal people can't even get in 676 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.440 a certain distance near a certain distance of that place. 677 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.039 And of course they've you know, glamorized what they're doing 678 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.400 with the History Channel and all that stuff, so we 679 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.039 have really no idea. They show a bunch of probably 680 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.760 government drones in the sky in every episode and call it, 681 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.039 you know, Skinwalker Ranch's kooky. You know, but I think 682 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.599 that most of what we're seeing in the skies is 683 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.239 probably our own stuff. Now, I want to get your 684 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.880 thoughts on that. If it's not, it seems to have 685 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.039 some kind of intelligence or personal interaction like we were 686 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:32.599 talking about earlier. But most of these kind of high tech, 687 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.639 very machine physical like type of craft that they've been 688 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.880 showing us, like triangles and the tic. 689 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.440 TACs cigars, these appear to be, you know, very physical, 690 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.320 and I would put my money that we've had those 691 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:51.440 for a long time. I tend to agree with you, man. 692 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:52.960 I think if there's anything out there like that, it 693 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:56.159 probably is our government just fucking with the people, because 694 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.039 I mean, I'm gonna go out on a limb here 695 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.639 and tell something really personal, but it is what it is. 696 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:02.920 And I would once again, I would urge people to 697 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:05.239 brush up on a little bit of the background of 698 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.960 the Bloods of story so they're not in over their 699 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.639 head in deep waters with this one. But when the 700 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:15.559 entities took my dad the second time, this encounter with 701 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.840 this female lady right here, what she told my dad 702 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.480 is that there is a dark group at the top 703 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.760 of humanity. She did not give a specific name. She 704 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.039 just said there is a dark group in power who 705 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:32.039 is using Biblical scripture to reenact the prophecies on a globe, 706 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.079 like the end time prophecies on a global scale, to 707 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.559 force humanity into some sort of end time crisis. And 708 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.239 part of this agenda is a great deception, and this 709 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.880 deception will be tricking humanity into believing it there is 710 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.719 no God, there is no higher consciousness, there is no spirit, 711 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:56.000 in its aliens. It's physical monster evil aliens. That's the 712 00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.760 ultimate deception. So running on this assumption. When the Shiny 713 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.599 Lady he spoke to my dad and told him this shit, 714 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.079 I took it pretty serious. I tend to believe these 715 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.360 mystical type, profound experiences more than I believe are our 716 00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.199 are one percent. You know, media moguls who are telling 717 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.079 us what we should believe. I mean, we already know 718 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.440 their liars. So I mean I go by that I 719 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.079 really do believe what this entity said, don't. I don't 720 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:26.360 necessarily think there is any threat whatsoever, any possibility of 721 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.519 a threat from any sort of physical alien monsters. I 722 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:33.599 think it's entirely made up. I think not to say 723 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.400 not to say there can't be any sort of physical entity. 724 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.920 I'm not trying. I couldn't know that. I'm just saying 725 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.840 I know that they're lying about some sort of negative 726 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.159 spin on this phenomenon to try and trick people into 727 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:47.119 being terrified of it. 728 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.840 Yep, I think you're spot on. Now, let's talk a 729 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:56.079 little bit about your understanding of what the nature of 730 00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:01.000 reality is, what we're doing here, How are just when 731 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.119 I'm not interact with our consciousness you mentioned earlier that 732 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.079 you know, you're not even sure these things are coming 733 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:08.440 from space. I'm not either. 734 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:09.199 You know. 735 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.800 The space thing is a whole other show, you know. 736 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.920 It's I did a whole show on that topic. Oh yeah, 737 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:17.119 I have. 738 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.679 Yeah, I've done those two and it's a very divisive 739 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.400 fun people. Yeah, it gets people worked up for some reason, 740 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.840 but it does. Yeah. You know, whatever we're on, whether 741 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.159 you know we're on a planet or flat plane or 742 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.719 whatever you want to think it is, I think that 743 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.239 this is much more special and different place than we 744 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.599 could ever imagine. You know. My idea lately, and it's 745 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.719 just you know, one of my many theories that pop 746 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.440 into my head and you know, could change tomorrow or 747 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.320 even in the next few minutes, is that this is, 748 00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:52.159 this whole reality is something that we may have even 749 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.480 put here for ourselves for consciousness growth and experience, and 750 00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:59.840 and that you know, these strange entities and things like 751 00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.679 that that are part of our own programming that might 752 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.480 pop in every once in a while to get us 753 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.159 on the right track. I don't know. I'd like to 754 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.559 get your thoughts on what is what is surrounding us 755 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.119 at all times? What is this that we call reality, 756 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.840 but we know is no way physical when you get 757 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.519 down to the micro level, right, I. 758 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.960 Mean, yeah, you said it extremely well, but I'll just 759 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.079 kind of like give my personal takes on that and 760 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.320 kind of enhance what you were what you were saying. 761 00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:32.599 But I believe that we as divine conscious beings. And 762 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:35.519 I say that, I really believe that that anybody was 763 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.199 born into this world, any any sort of living being 764 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.880 with a heartbeat and a brain and a spinal element 765 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.360 of breath, that that that animates whatever being this is, 766 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.719 is divine and has a spark of the divine or 767 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.760 or I would say the godhood or the source, or 768 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.159 whatever terminology people want to use. They always get so 769 00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:00.280 mad if you use the wrong terminology. The old ultimate 770 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.639 source of reality is this eternal consciousness that is completely 771 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.559 imbalance and in harmony with all life, all things, everywhere, 772 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.760 space time. It's above anything that we can comprehend or conceive. 773 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.360 The Egyptians have been talking about this for thousands of years, 774 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:20.239 and these secret mystery schools, and this has passed through 775 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.280 the ages secretly. Of course, up until recent times it 776 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.119 wasn't so mainstream knowledge passed through the Greeks, the Persians, 777 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.559 the Indians, even the Jewish schools like the Essenes and 778 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.039 Kabbalah and things of this nature. This knowledge has always 779 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:40.400 been around that we are co creating a I guess 780 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.360 you could say, an illusory reality together that we come 781 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.239 here to experience so that we can evolve on a 782 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.199 soul level, so that we can return home to the 783 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.119 highest reality, which is the source of all living things. 784 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:53.639 And you can call it God, you can call it 785 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.239 whatever you want. I don't like people to get too 786 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.840 caught up in that. I do believe that because we 787 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.519 are small, fractal pieces of this eternal oneness, this eternal 788 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.559 source of consciousness. Because of that, our thoughts, our words, 789 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.199 and our deeds truly matter. Because if you think a 790 00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.079 thought in your mind, you have no clue where that 791 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.280 thought truly came from. It might be you might be 792 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.360 having a bad day. You might be in a really 793 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.360 negative vibration because of the energy going on around you. 794 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.079 Someone's looking at you funny, cursing you, fuck you dude, 795 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.280 and you're feeling bad and you're getting pulled down by 796 00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.320 these negative vibrations, and you might start having some hateful 797 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.920 thoughts come in. You should enact those on those thoughts 798 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.039 because you're giving birth to them in this reality, and 799 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.199 those vibrations will harm someone else's spirit. And it's the 800 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.519 same goes the other way. You know, if you're having 801 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.280 a really good day, you're doing everything right. You've you've meditated, 802 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.679 you've prayed, you've you've eaten good, maybe fasted, maybe exercise, 803 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.960 whatever you've done that's made you feel whole and complete 804 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.519 and healthy and happy. You might be vibrating at such 805 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.119 a level that some really profound thoughts come from another place, 806 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.880 and you know, you speak these really loving, positive thoughts, 807 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.119 you might just change somebody's entire life and you had 808 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.159 no clue that that person was struggling or going through 809 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.239 something and needed some encouragement from someone else. So I 810 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.360 think our thoughts and our words and our deeds truly 811 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.320 matter in this realm because they come from another place. 812 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:14.440 We're just the channels. 813 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.320 Well, man, I love it. I love it. What do 814 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:22.679 you think about timelines and the possibility that not only 815 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.599 were we on multiple different timelines at one given moment, 816 00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:30.559 but you can kind of experience this and think about 817 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.840 it in a way that people in you know, a 818 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.880 different country, say, people in this far off in the 819 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:43.519 Bavarian forest, and they don't have TVs. And then nine 820 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.000 to eleven happens, and these people don't have any media TVs. 821 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:48.679 They're out in the middle of nowhere and they live 822 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.159 in their own sustainable community and they never hear about it. 823 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.840 Is that really a part of their reality? Did that 824 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.599 really happen for them? Or does it really It's like, 825 00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.559 you know, does if a tree falls in the forest, 826 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.920 you know, and we do have you know, biological life 827 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:09.480 and trees and particles to witness these events, But does 828 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.320 it spread that far? And do people experience that set 829 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.519 kind of separation of reality into these types of different timelines. 830 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.800 It seems like many people are on different timelines in 831 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.960 our own reality that we cross over into. I consider 832 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.639 going to the grocery store crossing over into a different 833 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:32.199 timeline because it's not my desired reality. Especially have to 834 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:33.920 if I have to go to a place like Walmart, 835 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.559 that's like preparing to go to a different mention. Man, 836 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.920 I got like gear up, say a prayer, and like 837 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.480 I don't want to go here. So like every you know, 838 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:45.000 even travel. But it seems with especially everything that's been 839 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.880 going on since twenty twenty and people's awakening and realizations 840 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.480 that these timelines have kind of split off even more. 841 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.079 There's this major fear timeline where people are just going 842 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:59.760 with the narratives and pinking down into oblivily oblivion, and 843 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.679 then the timeline where people aren't paying attention and kind 844 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.920 of flourishing and getting better in their lives. So it's 845 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.119 very interesting to see all the things that are occurring 846 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.880 right now, which brings me to your thoughts on that 847 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:16.440 this whole strange times we're in, the awakening sit you 848 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.760 were in and all of that's that's kind of unfolding before. 849 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.320 I don't think I could say it any be better 850 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.920 than that. It kind of just blew my mind. I 851 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.639 never thought about it in that sense seriously, Like that's 852 00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.320 pretty profound. What if was some tribe out there somewhere 853 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.760 in the forest and they never heard any sort of 854 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.599 news of nine to eleven. I mean, you know, I've 855 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.599 never thought about that kind of concept before. But you're 856 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.280 probably right. It probably had nothing to do with their 857 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.400 consensus reality that they're strained. They may be completely unaffected. 858 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:48.079 I think that the totality of consciousness of this human 859 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.280 race is intimately connected, and I think there could be 860 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.360 some variations about how connected we are to certain events 861 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.800 that have psychic impact on our collective consciousness. And I 862 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.280 would say, maybe in some way their effect through the 863 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.760 grapevine of this, you know, you could think of you 864 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.039 could imagine our collective consciousness like a spiritual entity that 865 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.559 sort of has a mind of its own. And when 866 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.639 negativity is spread through this life that we all share together, 867 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:18.000 this consensus reality, you know what I mean, it has 868 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.559 an effect on each and every one of us, like 869 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.840 this COVID shit. I have no doubt in my mind 870 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.280 that this was perpetrated on humanity so that we would 871 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.079 all suffer and live in fear and chaos and darkness. 872 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.400 And nobody can tell me that what I'm about to 873 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.280 say is wrong. In the last two years, we have 874 00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:38.159 entered a new life, a totally new timeline. Virtually everybody 875 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.599 I know my age works either from home the whole 876 00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.639 week or home half the week. Before twenty twenty, I 877 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.800 had never heard of that, other than some technical sales job, 878 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.440 you know, some it kind of thing. I had never 879 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.800 heard of anybody working from home. Now, all of a sudden, 880 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.360 everyone does. It's like this whole world just flipped upside 881 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.679 down and we're in a new timeline together, and I 882 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.639 think you're absolutely right. The negative events that they perpetrate 883 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:05.239 on humanity like nine to eleven and the Vegas shootings 884 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.800 and all these terrible tragedies and massacres, I think they 885 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.159 do that to shape collective route reality or consensus reality whatever, 886 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:18.280 to shift towards the negative, whole fearful timeline. And that's 887 00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.760 why I urge people, and I plead with people to 888 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.880 turn off the fucking news and be very cautious what 889 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.920 they consume into their soul. Because if you're just gonna 890 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.199 listen to the mainstream media talking heads sit there and 891 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:33.440 tell you you should be afraid of everybody around every 892 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.440 corner and every every doorstep is holding some terrible person 893 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.199 who wants to is just out to get you. I'm 894 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.079 exaggerating a little bit, but you know, we all know 895 00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.119 the news. We know the news is fearful. So I 896 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:44.960 agree with you one hundred percent that they are fucking 897 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.800 with our reality with all these terrible catastrophes. I mean, 898 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.360 I don't know, man, I couldn't say it better than you, honest. 899 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.960 Well, with the timelines, there's there's I think we have 900 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.519 plenty of options on where we can go collectively into 901 00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.679 the future. There's also plenty of options and agendas of 902 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.320 where they want us to go in the future. I believe, 903 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.199 like we were talking two or maybe more factions that 904 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.920 battle control for control over humanity, they have a lot 905 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:13.960 of power, and like you're saying they have, they do 906 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.440 these large events to steer people in a certain direction. 907 00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:21.920 That they have plenty of options that you know some 908 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.360 some think some want us to go to the transhuman 909 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:28.719 route to where we plug ourselves into machinery and just 910 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.840 live our lives there. It does not seem that we 911 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.519 would get there because we have this looming kind of 912 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.239 economic crash and everything that is coming up in the 913 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:41.639 future to where it looks like society is going to 914 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.320 go through very troubling times. I'm not sure they're going 915 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:49.239 to get their transhumantopia where we merge with technology. With 916 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.400 this situation continues to go the way it is food chorges. 917 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.320 It seems like one side may be gaining a little 918 00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.800 ground with their depopulation agendas. 919 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:00.239 You know. 920 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:04.480 So we've got all these types of awful timelines and 921 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.760 in places we can go. But I think collectively as 922 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.280 if we can wake up and realize this and shift 923 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.320 some of those timelines over we could have better options 924 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.800 on which reality we want to participate in. What do 925 00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.760 you think about these different timelines? Do you do you 926 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.880 see it the same way? And do you think are 927 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:26.559 you hopeful for the future? 928 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.639 I am. I have full faith we will eventually arrive 929 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.480 in a positive future. And I say that because again, 930 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.880 this this this female entity. Uh, when my dad spoke 931 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.440 with her, she said a lot of things. One of 932 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.159 the things that she said that was the most important 933 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.920 to remember is that the whole point of this, the 934 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.400 whole point of the UFO phenomenon appearing before the eyes 935 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.159 of civilians and innocent people like ourselves and every other 936 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.119 normal Joe out there who's not some government employee. Why 937 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.199 would they do that? You know, you would think if 938 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.599 it was aliens, if it was some sort of militaristic society, 939 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.400 they would they would definitely not be accidentally revealing themselves 940 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.039 to ordinary people like us. If they were smarter than 941 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.679 we are, if they had this sophisticated technology, even if 942 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.039 they had psychic perception of all physical beings or whatever, 943 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.920 they better than to just be accidentally showing themselves to 944 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.159 ordinary people. And anyway, I kind of got off track there. 945 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:18.840 What the lady told my dad is that we are 946 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.719 going towards the age of Aquarius. And that's the whole 947 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.559 point of why these beings are coming in the first place, 948 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.960 is to guide us to this Aquarium age of peace 949 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:32.039 and love and harmony. It's all about understanding that there 950 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.800 is a higher consciousness, there is a divinity, there is 951 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.119 a God. I don't care how people call it. I 952 00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.159 don't care what name they want to use. That doesn't 953 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:43.920 matter to me. What matters to me is the total 954 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:48.079 confidence that there is a positive higher power who is trying, 955 00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.719 or is actually not just trying, but doing this guiding 956 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.840 humanity throughout the ages. But there are certain rules in 957 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:58.480 this reality. If these beings were to regularly manifest, this 958 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.119 reality would probably fall apart. I don't think that this, this 959 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.360 little three D world that we live in could fully 960 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.480 and openly contain these beings of light. I just don't 961 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.719 think it's possible. I don't think it's written into the program. 962 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:11.920 So they show up in these little fashes whenever they 963 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.760 can get away with it and kind of hack the system, 964 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.039 you know what I mean, kind of like from the 965 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.360 Matrix when Neo and Morpheus hop in and fuck with 966 00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.079 the system, and then the agents get on them, and 967 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.719 you know the government's trying to play damage control and 968 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.599 convince everybody they're scary and they're evil, just like Neo 969 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:27.880 and Morpheus were terrorists in the Matrix. He catch my 970 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.679 grip or my drift? Yeah right, yeah, I just that's 971 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:33.360 that's kind of how I see things, that there is 972 00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:37.280 a positive future, and that's the message the government, the 973 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.079 one percent, the media, whatever. They don't want anybody to 974 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.639 have any sort of hope or positivity on the horizon. 975 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:44.599 They want it always to be chaos and fear and 976 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.039 running around with the chickens with their heads cut off. 977 00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:53.320 All right. Now, there's a illusion or perception that only 978 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.760 one side is is right a horse, but not only that, 979 00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.599 we're only going to see one side's idea, one side's agendas, 980 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:05.960 and anything else that goes against the green is going 981 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.840 to be shunned and considered a thread or terrorist. But 982 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.639 right now it's hard to tell who and how many 983 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:18.000 people are on the right side of history, and you 984 00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.000 won't ever see it coming out of the mainstream media. 985 00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.599 And the only way to do it is doing things 986 00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.360 like we're doing, talking to people who talk to a 987 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.679 lot of other people, and it's hard to you know, 988 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.639 that's the only way to get an idea of how 989 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.760 many people or towards the light are going or awakening, 990 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.480 are understanding some of the things that are happening and 991 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.199 what's behind it and going towards the right side of history. 992 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.559 And I have to think that most people are. And 993 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.119 we're not being shown because of course, just like I said, 994 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.719 we're only being shown one side of the narrative, one 995 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.360 shot side of the story from Hollywood and the media 996 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.840 and everything else. But if you turn off your tea 997 00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.000 and walk down your street and talk to your neighbors 998 00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.079 and talk to people like we're doing across the planet, 999 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.159 and those people talk to a lot of other people, 1000 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:09.920 it seems that everyone I'm talking to is pretty reasonably 1001 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.760 smart and doesn't fall for some of the bullshit that 1002 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.960 we're going through. I don't know about you, how do 1003 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:15.760 you feel about that? 1004 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:18.719 Again? I absolutely agree with you, man. I think you're 1005 00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.760 right on the money tonight. You know, at least the 1006 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:26.320 people I know used to be years ago, I couldn't 1007 00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.920 really talk openly even with some of my friends about 1008 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.400 this stuff because it was too fringe or it was 1009 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.920 too not what the mainstream media talking heads were pushing out, 1010 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.719 and like especially some of my friends were all just 1011 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.559 like whatever political bullshit was on TV, it was what 1012 00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.639 they were parroting. And I'm not talking like you know, 1013 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.079 people that I talk with every day. I'm just saying 1014 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.119 acquaintance as I bumped into and things like that. I 1015 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.360 know people in my life and I've observed these people 1016 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.760 in the last few years. There's so much more open mind, 1017 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.400 there's so much more curious about alternative media. And they 1018 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.559 all see the podcast people I know, they're all like, 1019 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.480 oh man, this shit is cool. Like, you know, I 1020 00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.559 used to think you guys were weird for talking about aliens, 1021 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.239 but after listening to your show, like, I feel so 1022 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.199 sorry I ever judged that kind of vibe, you know. 1023 00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.559 And I think that people are one hundred percent becoming 1024 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.119 more open minded. I think you're absolutely correct. But I 1025 00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:19.119 think the reason is why is because yet again, we 1026 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.599 are shifting into the age of Aquarius, and I think 1027 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:27.719 that spiritually, uh, that is affecting the resonance of our 1028 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:32.440 collective consciousness and slowly on an individual level. But they're 1029 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.679 seven billion individuals, so it's going to happen like a 1030 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:38.239 tidal wave. As the years go on. On an individual basis, 1031 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:43.360 consciousness is unfolding to understand and receive higher concepts. And 1032 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.599 I really think around the world people are slowly but 1033 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.400 surely opening their minds and it can't be stopped. And again, 1034 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.800 that's why they keep pumping out the fear because they 1035 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.239 know these ancient prophecies about the next age. They know 1036 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.239 that the little old dinky redneck Bloedsoe Fan down at Fayette, 1037 00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.360 North Carolina, speaking with entities that the CIA is constantly 1038 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.000 monitoring and trying to track them down and figure out 1039 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.079 what the fuck's going on. And they made my father 1040 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.000 write this stuff to the Pentagon and took it and 1041 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.079 even briefed the President on it. They know that these 1042 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.559 entities communicated to my father that the Age of Aquarius 1043 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.079 is coming. They know all this, They're scared of all this. 1044 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.840 They tell us, you know, so. 1045 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.719 I think that they tell us a lot more than 1046 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.360 people would realize. I think they've been telling us through 1047 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:34.360 Hollywood and the movies. They've made everything that is really happening, 1048 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.719 you know, I say it all the time. Is the 1049 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:40.800 hero's journey, Like Star Wars, a small group of people 1050 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.559 are under the control of the evil galactive empire. They 1051 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.840 rise up, they fight against it, and then they have 1052 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.519 a utopian society. But they have to go through all 1053 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:55.199 these trials and tribulation and self realizations until they get there. 1054 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.719 And that's always these heroes in these Hollywood and that's 1055 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.800 just us. That's the normal people that are having this 1056 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.480 spiritual journey right now. And the enemy. Why is the 1057 00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.199 enemy always like this totalitarian government? Well, because it is. 1058 00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.159 That's what the enemy is. Guys. They're showing you the 1059 00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:16.199 truth and they have been for a while. Although Hollywood, 1060 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:18.000 a lot of the crap they're putting out now it 1061 00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:21.880 hasn't even been even as close to entertaining as even 1062 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.320 if it was propaganda, you know, at least it used 1063 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.679 to be entertaining. But that again is a whole other show. Now, 1064 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.760 I want to get your thoughts on the afterlife and 1065 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:34.679 do we come back? Are we reincarnated? Do we have 1066 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.440 soul contracts? Do we agree to come here? Or is this, 1067 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.039 like we were talking earlier, some kind of you know, 1068 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.559 our own type of simulation or something else. What do 1069 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.559 you think about the afterlife and are we coming back? 1070 00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:53.079 Yeah? So here's here's my nuanced take on that. I'm 1071 00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.639 very fascinated by the concept of soul contracts, but I 1072 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.039 just don't know much about that. Admittedly, however, I do 1073 00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:04.199 want hunt undred one thousand million percent. I will die 1074 00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.079 on this hill. I believe in reincarnation. I in my experience, 1075 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.440 I have experienced evidence enough to prove to me that 1076 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:18.599 it is true. The entities told my father that when 1077 00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:22.039 we die, our life is truly eternal, and that when 1078 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.280 we die, we go to the eternal realm where these 1079 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:27.800 light spirits, these orbs, whatever you want to call them, 1080 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.280 where they live, where they reside. That when we die, 1081 00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.480 our sir goes into these orbs that you see on 1082 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.239 these photographs. You know, my dad is world famous for 1083 00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.840 taking orbs. There's thousands of ORB photos all over the internet. 1084 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.840 But if anybody wants to some crazy authentic ORB pros, 1085 00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.679 follow my dad on Instagram. I can plug that at 1086 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.559 the end if you want to do any plugs. But anyway, 1087 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.440 he gets thousands of ORB photos. And what these entities 1088 00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.320 said is when you die, your spirit goes into one 1089 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.880 of these orbs and you cross onto the eternal realm. Now, 1090 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:56.880 when and where the reincarnation process happens, I don't know 1091 00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.039 they didn't say that specifically, but they did say that 1092 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.039 this life is the orny of the soul when it 1093 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.960 comes here to learn lessons and move on to a 1094 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.360 higher place. I don't believe in permanent death. I believe that, 1095 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.360 you know, life in all forms truly is eternal, because 1096 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.480 you can't kill God if we have that spark of God, 1097 00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.079 if we had that spark of divine consciousness inside of us. 1098 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:19.639 That's really arrogant to think that we could kill a 1099 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.079 peace of God. I think that's really stupid and arrogant. 1100 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:27.320 Right on now, as far as our immediate future, it 1101 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.199 does seem that we are headed towards some dark times. 1102 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.679 But just like you said, even in all the ancient prophecies, 1103 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.920 and even look at things like black projects, like Looking 1104 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.760 Project looking Glass, where they're looking ahead to the future 1105 00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.960 and there were always, you know, seven steps ahead that 1106 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.599 they lost. These elitists, these people that were trying to 1107 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:54.000 achieve their Babylonian death called future, they never made it 1108 00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.239 because the light has always won and it always will. 1109 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.280 And I think that's we have to look forward too, 1110 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.079 even though we probably make it through some dark times. 1111 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:07.840 Trying to extinguish this, I'm very hopeful. We already have 1112 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.679 people setting up their own systems, their own sustainable communities, 1113 00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:17.000 their own businesses. People are entertaining in different ways podcasts, 1114 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.960 doing documentaries, movies, and so we're already starting to set 1115 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.239 up our own kind of cyst for this new utopia. 1116 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.000 It just has to collapse first, and that might hurt 1117 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.039 a little bit, right. 1118 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.960 Yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah, I know I 1119 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.519 keep saying it, but like I just really like your vibe. Man, 1120 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:36.159 You're really good at what you do, Chris. But anyway, 1121 00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:43.199 so yeah, I mean I think that it's just self evident, 1122 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.079 you know, like it's all about spreading fear. It's all 1123 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.239 about spreading fear so that we don't collectively manifest this 1124 00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:53.239 positive reality together. That's just that. That's just all I 1125 00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:54.679 can say. I mean, I can only say it so 1126 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.599 many times, you know, and so many people will listen. 1127 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.559 But the mainstream media, the top one percent, the elite, 1128 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.079 that they are lying so that they could manifest the legality. 1129 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.559 And it's up to us if we want to accept that. 1130 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:09.599 We don't have to accept that. And I want to 1131 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.920 say back to kind of like how you were weaving interestant, Yes, 1132 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.400 there are really bad things happening in the world. It 1133 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.360 looks very dark, It is very dark, but it is 1134 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.880 always darkest before dawn. And I think the most important 1135 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.679 thing that any one individual soul can do, out of 1136 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.519 the seven billions of souls, if all of us did this, 1137 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.239 it would be great. It'd be utopia. The best thing 1138 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:32.639 that any and every soul can do is hold on 1139 00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.960 to the light and shine the light, shine the hope 1140 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.239 out into the shared world that we're living in and 1141 00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:41.639 perceiving and creating together. Hold on to that hope, hold 1142 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.199 on to that positivity, and project that towards your neighbor. 1143 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:46.039 And if we all did that, it would snowball and 1144 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.320 we would manifest the new positive reality together. 1145 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.039 Man, I love it. I think that is actually a 1146 00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:56.119 perfect note to close on. Ryan, this was fantastic as usual. 1147 00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.480 We're going to have to do this more often, for sure. 1148 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.239 We're absolutely always a pleasure. Before you head out, let 1149 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.320 everyone know where they can find your podcast, social media, 1150 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.800 anything exciting you that going on, whatever you got. 1151 01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.960 So I like to keep my plugging concise. Our show 1152 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.280 is called bledsoe you can see it behind me. Not 1153 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.480 sure if the video sometimes zoom reversesm sometimes it doesn't 1154 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.320 if you can read it be led, Sooe said. So 1155 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:23.880 you can find us on Instagram, Twitter, We even have 1156 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.239 a TikTok where YouTube, and we do have a Patreon 1157 01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.639 in a rock fin every single one of our channels 1158 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:33.400 are under bledso said, so super easy to find us. 1159 01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.280 Awesome, man, Yes, go check that out. Ryan. This was 1160 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.119 fantastic and we'll definitely do this again soon in the future. 1161 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:42.760 Thank you, Chris. And I just want to say I 1162 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.760 do apologize for being so hard to track down, but 1163 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.519 I you know, I do have my own show myself, 1164 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.119 so I would I totally love to come back if 1165 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.079 you're willing to have me. I I just always do 1166 01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:53.960 have a blast on your head. 1167 01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:55.880 Hey, I got your number now, so it's all good. 1168 01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:58.440 So ex Yeah, for sure we're gonna do it more. 1169 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.679 All right, Well till next time, everyone, have an excellent 1170 01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.599 evening and we'll talk again tomorrow. We'll see all then. 1171 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.599 Today I want to welcome Esoteric Eddie. He is an 1172 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:19.440 unbiased researcher and writer of occult, conspiratorial and esoteric subjects. 1173 01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.360 With over ten years of studies and experience, he provides 1174 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:28.199 fascinating facts and interesting insight. He is also the creator 1175 01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.599 of entertaining videos and documentaries on his YouTube channel Esoteric 1176 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.119 Eddie tv Eddie. Welcome, how you doing. 1177 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.280 Hey doing all right? Thank you for having me. 1178 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.920 Yes, man, I've been looking forward to tonight. Your work 1179 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:47.320 covers some of my favorite areas to discuss ancient, hidden 1180 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:52.000 esoteric history, which actually becomes more like sci fi fantasy 1181 01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.400 than anything we could really imagine in the false reality 1182 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.559 we have. And there's so much that we could discuss. 1183 01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.679 There's so much, many areas that we could go into. 1184 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.679 I think that this could even be a two part episode. 1185 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:07.559 There's so much we could talk to. Now, this is 1186 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.320 your first time on I'd love if we could start 1187 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.679 with a little bit more about your background and what 1188 01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.719 was it that really got you started researching these topics. 1189 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:22.119 Yeah, absolutely, so, I've been researching this stuff, you know, 1190 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:27.320 the esoteric cult, conspiratorial for well over ten years. I'm 1191 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:31.000 about to be twenty eight this year. My whole life 1192 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.639 has revolved around esotericallygy I grew up in a Christian 1193 01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:39.239 and Catholic home, so I was always intrigued by the 1194 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.559 Bible and it's deeper mysteries. Had some strange experiences as 1195 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.639 a kid growing up that also led me on this path, 1196 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:51.199 but I didn't start actually diving into this knowledge until 1197 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:55.719 I was around twelve to fourteen years old, started listening 1198 01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.599 to certain hip hop music and started reading a lot 1199 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:04.199 of different books and watching different documentaries. And I guess 1200 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.639 really it started with the music subliminally, just hearing certain 1201 01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.880 artists bringing certain subjects up that I wasn't familiar with 1202 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:15.000 that sounded fascinating. So that songs and those lyrics led 1203 01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.239 me to knowledge, and then coming across these different books 1204 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:21.599 led me to deeper and deeper things. 1205 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.519 Right. Well, man, well, I think a good place for 1206 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.760 us to start tonight. Since this is such a broad 1207 01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:33.679 kind of discussion that covers so many areas your book 1208 01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.639 The Lucifer Mystery Revealed, let's start there. Maybe you could 1209 01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:39.599 give us a synopsis of your book. 1210 01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:45.599 Absolutely so, it's an academic perspective on the historicity of 1211 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:49.719 Lucifer within the Church and the occult. So I take 1212 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.679 reader through basically a historical and academic journey throughout the 1213 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.320 book to show them how I came to my conclusion 1214 01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.159 as to who or what Lucifer really is is Because 1215 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:07.679 what I found is that we misunderstood and mistranslated ancient texts, 1216 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.719 and out of that misunderstanding, we concocted this archetype that 1217 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.880 we know of as Lucifer. But he never really actually 1218 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:23.679 existed within the Bible. We created it through our own misunderstanding, mistranslation, 1219 01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:27.320 and later fanatical imaginations within the occult. 1220 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:33.239 Right on. So how far should we go back when 1221 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:39.079 we look at the origins of this misunderstanding of Lucifer. 1222 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.639 Well, it all starts with Isaiah, the prophet inscribed by 1223 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:48.639 Isaiah in the Old Testament. It all starts there because 1224 01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.079 he is the one who gave us the famous Lucifer verse, 1225 01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.519 which is Isaiah fourteen twelve, which is the famous Old 1226 01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.400 Lucifer How art Thou fallen? So it starts with him, 1227 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.159 and it presses from there. But in the book I 1228 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.880 go farther back than Isaiah and Isaiah. We're talking about 1229 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.119 like six hundred BC around then. But the concept, the 1230 01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.800 occult concept of Lucifer, and even the theological concept of 1231 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:17.719 Lucifer having to be related to the serpent in the 1232 01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:21.599 Garden of Eden. That story and that aspect of Lucifer 1233 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.239 goes all the way back to ancient sumer. 1234 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:29.039 A lot of these stories that are based around human 1235 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:35.440 creation are found within the Samerian mythos as well. What 1236 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:40.320 is your interpretation of the Garden of Eden adam ory. 1237 01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:45.039 Yeah, so it's a fascinating tale. And of course it's 1238 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.880 in the book Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament, 1239 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.320 and I review the Old test through the lens that 1240 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:57.639 it is borrowing or even kind of in a way 1241 01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:03.559 reshaping old old world mythologies. For example, and the biggest 1242 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:07.239 example of this is Uh, the flood myth within the Bible. 1243 01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.440 Now we would view, you know, Christians and theologians and 1244 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:13.639 and just people who don't look into this deep enough 1245 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.519 would think that the flood myth is is uh is 1246 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.039 precisely just a judaic myth, but it's not. Actually it was. 1247 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:26.599 It was borrowed or retold from ancient Sumerian versions. And 1248 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.719 in the Biblical version, we have one God who is 1249 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.960 capriciously deciding, you know, to kill mankind or to save 1250 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.280 mankind through through Noah and his family. And that hesitancy 1251 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.800 that we see in the Bible is because it's borrowing 1252 01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.440 from the Sumerian tale. We're in the Sumerian tale, it's 1253 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:49.039 not one God, but two gods, two brother gods who 1254 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:53.280 are contemplating about this, you know, endeavor. So if we 1255 01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:55.519 take that into consideration, we can kind of start to 1256 01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.960 look at the Old Testament through that lens that they're 1257 01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.559 kind of retelling the Sumerian tale in a more simplified 1258 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:06.840 monotheistic way. So those two brother gods were the Sumerian 1259 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:11.320 and Key and Edel. And en key Is has been 1260 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:15.960 remembered by scholars as syriologists and alternative scholars of all kind, 1261 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:21.599 alternative scholars of all kind as the witty, clever, wise 1262 01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.320 scientists who was sympathetic to mankind, whereas en Lil has 1263 01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:31.039 been remembered as the militant, vindictive deity who was regretful 1264 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:34.519 about our creation. So in the Garden of Eden story, 1265 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:37.000 if we're looking at it through that lens, we can 1266 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:42.400 pretty much assume that n Key is the serpent in 1267 01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:45.960 that story who is trying to give us knowledge and 1268 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.880 is being represented as a as a snake, whereas and 1269 01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:54.039 Lil was probably Yahweh, or god who who was frustrated 1270 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:55.719 and angry about this taking place. 1271 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:01.400 The most prominent information that from modern accounts that we 1272 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:06.599 get is from Zariah Stitchen about the Sumerian mythos. Now, 1273 01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.000 there are many that argue that you know a lot 1274 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:13.960 of his information was misinterpreted and misunderstood. What do you 1275 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.600 think how accurate do you think was the information coming 1276 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:23.800 out from Stitching's translations based on what could possibly have 1277 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:24.760 been reality. 1278 01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:31.000 Yeah, absolutely, great question up. I hold sit in high respect. 1279 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:35.239 I think he was a pioneer and he was the 1280 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.680 great aspect of his work isn't that he was accurate. 1281 01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:44.039 The great aspect of his work was the speculative aspect 1282 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.239 of it. Now, the fact that he took the time 1283 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.000 to look at all the world's mythologies. I mean, he 1284 01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:55.960 wrote a series of seven books in the Earth Chronicle series. 1285 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.680 I think it's about seven books, and in all those books, 1286 01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.800 which I've read all of them, I have all of them, 1287 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.760 and some of his other books outside of that, And 1288 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.720 what's fascinating is he took the time to look at 1289 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:10.399 all the world's mythologies and piece it together, the similarities, 1290 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.880 and narrate a storyline that makes sense. And that storyline 1291 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.439 is that a long time ago, there were the gods 1292 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.520 here on Earth, and then at some point they decided 1293 01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:28.159 to more or less upgrade the homo erectus or neanderthal 1294 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:33.239 man that was here and jumpstart evolution and genically engineered 1295 01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:37.239 the Homo sapien and then from then on our modern 1296 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:41.560 civilization spawned, as mainstream science would tell us about sixty 1297 01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:46.640 seven thousand years ago. So the greatness about his work 1298 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:48.560 is the speculativeness of it, you know, and how he 1299 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.760 took the time to piece that all together for us. 1300 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.960 But he wasn't the only one to really speculate that 1301 01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.279 this story matter. As a matter of fact, I did 1302 01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:04.439 a documentary on Esoteric Adyt and in that documentary I 1303 01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:08.359 revealed that in a in an interview, Uh, that'siti you 1304 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:12.119 did back. I believe in probably the seventies or eighties, 1305 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.000 he reveals that he learned that subject or that or 1306 01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:21.520 that concept from an old rabbi, uh, a rabbi by 1307 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:27.479 the name of Malbim. And in Judaism there are a 1308 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:32.600 line of rabbi commentators on the Torah who are highly respected. 1309 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.359 As a matter of fact, their commentaries are are taught 1310 01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:39.720 or were taught in the synagogues as extra knowledge to 1311 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.239 go with the Torah. And this Rabbi Malbeim was one 1312 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.000 of the first to postulate that the sons of God 1313 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:49.800 in the Genesis story with you know, the beings who 1314 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.000 came down to heaven and made it with mankind and 1315 01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:56.760 created the abominable offspring of the Nephilim. He Malbem postulated 1316 01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.560 that these Nephilm could have been extraterrestrial, so Sitchyan as 1317 01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.960 a kid, actually learned that from him, and along with 1318 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:11.479 Citian just mainstream as Syriologists have also concluded that Enki 1319 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.279 is without a doubt. You know the source of esoteric 1320 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.279 and wise knowledge in the old world, that a lot 1321 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:24.000 of the occults and mythologies that came afterward borrowed from. 1322 01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:27.960 But when we look at these so called gods in Key, 1323 01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:32.760 in lil and basically all these figures from Mythos three 1324 01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:37.640 throughout history that speak of godlike entities, do you think 1325 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:42.079 that these were possibly extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings. 1326 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.560 Well, I mean, obviously I don't know. Of course I 1327 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.520 don't know. But if we look at what the text 1328 01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.720 tell us, right, the text tell us that they were 1329 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.920 gods and that they came from the heavens, which we 1330 01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:03.720 can assume with space outer space. And so if I 1331 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:05.880 were to go by what our ancestors told us, what 1332 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.560 the text tell us, I would say that they came 1333 01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.680 from outer space, you know, and whether that was like 1334 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.359 what a sitchen theorized, you know, a nearby planet that 1335 01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:21.520 orbits every so thousand years. Maybe, but more recently people 1336 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:24.920 have been also speculating that, yeah, maybe they were interdimensional travelers. 1337 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.239 But all that I do know is that they're not 1338 01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:32.399 here anymore, you know, seemingly not here anymore. And also 1339 01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.680 what I do know is that all of our ancestors 1340 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.359 in the Old World spoke about a calamity, a great 1341 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.720 flood or just some calamity that occurred, and after that 1342 01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:44.960 we kind of had to restart, and that is pretty 1343 01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:49.600 evident in the archaeology around the world. So my honest, 1344 01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:53.319 my personal belief is that there were a race of 1345 01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:57.279 beings that we can call gods that weren't native to 1346 01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:02.319 this Earth. I would say that they were very smart 1347 01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:07.800 and advanced and did jumpstart evolution to genetically engineer the 1348 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:11.960 Homo sapien. And due to wars and just arrogance and 1349 01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:16.319 just you know, plain old getting old, they kind of 1350 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.960 died off because they were the minority. You know, we 1351 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:22.640 started to populate and we became the majority. So as 1352 01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:25.920 they died off or laughed or whatever, they became the minority, 1353 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:28.319 and what I can imagine that they just kind of 1354 01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:31.479 just started to look at everything they've done and realized, 1355 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.479 you know, they made a mistake and that they're better 1356 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:37.159 off just leaving us to our own devices. And instead 1357 01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:41.560 of ruling over us physically, they instituted religion. And here 1358 01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.760 we are today still venerating them through the religions we have. 1359 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:51.720 Right on now. Unlike stitchens idea of the end and 1360 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:56.560 ock evening to basically use us as slaves to harvest gold, 1361 01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.159 there have been other theories recently more possibly more or 1362 01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:04.920 spiritual reasons or maybe more energetic reasons just using us 1363 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.600 as slaves, other reasons besides harvesting gold. I want to 1364 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.600 get your thoughts on that. What do you think were 1365 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.840 the reasons for the beings to manipulate hominid DNA and 1366 01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:16.960 create humanity? 1367 01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:23.000 Well? I think yeah, they pretty much just created us 1368 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.239 to be slaves, you know, and not not like slaves 1369 01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:28.560 in a matrix sense of it, like you know, like 1370 01:14:28.720 --> 01:14:31.199 that's all they want, wanted us for just ease slaves 1371 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.279 and not allow us to you know, grow consciously. I 1372 01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:38.439 think they were just in need for work workers, the 1373 01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:42.319 same way that today were in need for like AI technology, 1374 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:45.560 you know it it was less about being like sinister 1375 01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:47.840 and more about them just trying to come up with 1376 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:52.880 a clever way to get some help. And and so 1377 01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.199 that's that's how I view it. They they it was 1378 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:57.439 more about them just creating us so that we could 1379 01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:01.119 help them out and h and after they did so, 1380 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:06.439 they realize that it was maybe a mistake or maybe 1381 01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:08.039 the greatest thing that ever happened. 1382 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:14.319 Now, this idea of a false god or an in 1383 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:19.399 littl like archetype that doesn't really care for humanity and 1384 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:22.760 possibly at times maybe have had a hand in wiping 1385 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.800 out large portions of the population. Do you see this 1386 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:31.239 is somewhat the same story as you hear in you know, 1387 01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:37.039 Gnostic scriptures of the demiurge or or Sophia creating this 1388 01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:41.680 type of entity that is a false god over humanity. 1389 01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:45.199 Yeah, I think it's I think it's similar. I think 1390 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:50.640 there's always been that kind of motif all throughout human history. 1391 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:54.439 We've kind of always seen things as divided between good 1392 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.279 and evil, and we've explained that in different ways through 1393 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:02.640 different religions. But being that the Sumerian mythologies preceded that 1394 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:06.600 by thousands of years, and by the time narcissism came together, 1395 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:12.239 the Sumerian civilization and its mythologies were buried, understand and 1396 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:16.119 long forgotten. So I think they kind of just came 1397 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:21.079 up with that intuitively, not directly because of the Sumerian tales. 1398 01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:24.119 I think that was an intuitive thing actually spawned from 1399 01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:25.439 Greek philosophy. 1400 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.720 Now, do you think that it's possible that there are 1401 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:37.840 theological and very high level factions of not only secret 1402 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.840 societies and magical orders, but even beyond that that know 1403 01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:46.439 the actual truth and may have documented the actual history, 1404 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.840 real human history, that could coincide with this Sumerian mythos 1405 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:56.520 That these factions are still around today holding this information. 1406 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:01.399 Yeah, yeah, I think it's possible. Like, of course, we 1407 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.760 have the famous Emerald Tablets of Toth, which are a 1408 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:08.760 fascinating piece of work, and they were brought to us 1409 01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:14.520 by the American occultists doctor M. Doriel in the forties 1410 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:18.079 and fifties, who he claimed to have been contacted by 1411 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:21.439 some Tibetan monks and to have gone to go study 1412 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.359 in Shambala with them, and that they gave him the 1413 01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.960 permission to translate the emerald tablets into English, And for 1414 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.800 those who haven't read the Tablets of Toth, they talk 1415 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.760 about the Atlantian era, and they talk about how during 1416 01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:39.079 that era these energetic beings crept into our realm and 1417 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:43.000 started to take over the subconscious minds of the Atlantians. 1418 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.960 And Tod says in the tablets that it got so 1419 01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.319 bad and to the point where he couldn't tell who 1420 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.079 was infected and who wasn't. And that was the real 1421 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:54.439 downfall of Atlantis, was that these energetic beings overtook our 1422 01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.600 minds and caused us to destroy ourselves. And then after 1423 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.720 it all came crashing down, of course, then we have 1424 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.239 the legend of the flood and the legend of the 1425 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:09.520 priesthoods coming out of that, and then the two pillars 1426 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:14.439 of Enoch being erected, which had knowledge unscribed on them, 1427 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:16.960 you know, the sacred sciences inscribed on them, so that 1428 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:19.840 mankind can learn how to restart civilization after the calamity 1429 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:23.720 and carry on the Atlantian priesthood. So I do believe 1430 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.800 that you know, somewhere out there, be it Shambala or 1431 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:32.680 what have you, some benevolent congregation of ascended masters know 1432 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:36.159 what's really going on, and are allowing the foolery to 1433 01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:40.239 go as as it needs to be for the greater purpose. 1434 01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:45.720 Do you think that these these gods were physical beings? 1435 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.000 And if so, do you think that the evidence that 1436 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.800 we have could be the elongated skull people or maybe 1437 01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:53.920 giant bones. 1438 01:18:55.439 --> 01:19:00.039 I believe that the elongated school phenomenon comes from the 1439 01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:05.359 offspring of these gods and us. I think these elongated schools, 1440 01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:09.119 or I believe these elongated schools are the nephilm, the abominable, 1441 01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:13.600 abominable offspring, you know, with these deformalities and whatnot. But 1442 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:17.760 the actual pure bred gods, I do think that they 1443 01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:21.800 were physical at some point, and we're talking hundreds of 1444 01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:24.520 thousands of years, you know, if we go by what 1445 01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:28.079 the Sumerian text tell us. For example, the Sumerian king List, 1446 01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:32.399 which is a physical cylindrical text tells us, gives us 1447 01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:35.159 a list of some legendary rulers, and this list goes 1448 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.640 all the way back to four hundred almost five hundred 1449 01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:40.920 thousand years ago, So we're talking many many years ago. 1450 01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:44.560 So for their bones or their coffins or whatever to 1451 01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:48.640 still be around, I don't think they would be, don't. 1452 01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:52.199 So there's not much evidence for them anymore. But I 1453 01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:56.479 do believe that originally these gods were physical, And. 1454 01:19:56.359 --> 01:20:01.239 Do you think that that is the reason why scriptures 1455 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:06.119 like the Book of Enoch were intentionally not considered part 1456 01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:08.000 of the Bible and left out. 1457 01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:13.000 Yes, absolutely, The Book of Enoch was highly regarded as canon, 1458 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:16.600 you know, prior to the fourth century Common Era. Then 1459 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:20.119 it was excluded during the Constantinian dynasty through the Council 1460 01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:23.840 of Nicea, when Christianity became a world religion, and it 1461 01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:27.640 was excluded and condemned to be taught or spread around 1462 01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:31.640 specifically for that reason, because it talks about fallen angels 1463 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:36.279 being corporeal and having direct relationship with mankind. 1464 01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:41.600 Now, as far as the nephilim, is it possible that 1465 01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:48.640 these entities are the same that could be responsible for 1466 01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:52.079 a lot of the things that have happened throughout history, 1467 01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:56.880 even going into our modern history today that dictate where 1468 01:20:56.880 --> 01:20:57.439 we're headed. 1469 01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:02.279 Yeah, I think it's impossile ability. Recently on my Instagram 1470 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:06.039 I posted just just a joke, but it's it's pretty startling. 1471 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.279 I mean, like Jacob Rothschild, right, he's got like an 1472 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:11.000 elongated school, you know, he's got he's got a big 1473 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:15.760 head and Uh, so there might some of these elites, right, 1474 01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:19.640 might actually be the descendants of these Nephilim and and 1475 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:25.119 are in secret continuing the ruling that their answers had 1476 01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:25.920 over us. 1477 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.079 When going back to Old Testament stories of the Bible, 1478 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:34.399 what is your take on, Uh, the story of no 1479 01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:41.479 possibly could have had somethink the DNA of animals and humans, 1480 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:44.399 and it couldn't might not have been a boat, but 1481 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:45.760 some kind of storage. 1482 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:51.840 Yeah, Sitchin postulated that, and I think that could be true. 1483 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.199 It could be true. Of course, the story of Noah 1484 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:56.119 goes all the way back to the Sumerians as well, 1485 01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:00.680 and in the Samerian tell the wording is is different, 1486 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:04.359 and they do and I guess such an such a 1487 01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:07.520 And he grew up in Hebrew school, so he understood, 1488 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:12.439 excuse me, Hebrew really well, and he understood that translational 1489 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:17.640 errors were everywhere with the English and Latin and the 1490 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:19.560 Greek and all that kind of stuff. But when you 1491 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.880 read it in Hebrew, the arc seems more like like 1492 01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:27.159 a submersible thing on a submersible boat. And I guess apparently, 1493 01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:31.039 if you read it correctly, it does say the seed 1494 01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:34.319 of all animals as opposed to all animals, So I 1495 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.439 think there's some truth to that. 1496 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.640 Do you think that these entities may have been giants? 1497 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:43.319 Do you think that they were taller than most humans? 1498 01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:48.359 Yeah, not what the text tell us. You know that 1499 01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:53.479 they were They were giants and of greater stature than us, 1500 01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:56.199 So I would assume that, you know, many of them 1501 01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:59.600 were that way. But as most things kind of have 1502 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:04.560 evolved for humans, right, it's like we're kind of we're 1503 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:09.319 kind of getting less bulkier. I would imagine that they 1504 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:12.760 them too, have kind of shrinken or shrunken in size 1505 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:18.319 and lost that original pure bread justature. But there are 1506 01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:21.239 still things that might stick out to us, like like 1507 01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:26.119 the rh negative blood type, or the you know, cranial 1508 01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.439 enlargement like Jacob Rothschild, or just the fact that some 1509 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:35.000 of these people live really, really long lives, like the 1510 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:39.239 Queen Elizabeth Just. I think there are just small little 1511 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:43.119 things that are still remnant of the purebread genes. 1512 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:48.079 Now, when you look at ancient stories that could indicate 1513 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:54.760 their civilizations had great technologies, such as the evidence that 1514 01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:59.079 we have of building and construction of megalithic sites that 1515 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:03.760 we can't rec create. What kind of technology and how advanced. 1516 01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.039 Do you think some of this stuff was that our 1517 01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:08.079 ancient ancestors were using. 1518 01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:12.600 Well, my opinion on that has changed over the years, 1519 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.000 and I think that I think that a lot of 1520 01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:21.840 it was actually built by humans with very intricate techniques 1521 01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:25.279 that we don't understand, you know, even today. You know, 1522 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:27.560 you could we have artists all around the world that 1523 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:31.520 create works of architecture that are phenomenal that you know, 1524 01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:33.079 if I were to look at it, I would think 1525 01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:36.079 an alien builds it, you know. But I do think 1526 01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.800 that there are the rare cases, like the Pyramids of Giza, 1527 01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:44.640 you know, maybe Machu Pichu because of its elevation. So 1528 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:48.039 I think there are the rare cases where some technology 1529 01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:53.760 was used under the guidance of these gods. And I 1530 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:57.279 mean they definitely weren't using like Milwaukee power tools and stuff. 1531 01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:02.079 You know, they were probably using some some different form 1532 01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:05.760 of technology, right because technology, all it really is is 1533 01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:10.079 just us taking elements that are natural and putting them together. 1534 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:13.000 You know. It's like alchemy, right, Like like a like 1535 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:17.439 a sword is really just iron and and and fire. 1536 01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:22.279 So I imagine the way that we build tools today is 1537 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:26.279 our specific way with with you know, wires and plastic 1538 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:29.000 and this and that. I imagine that they probably just 1539 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:32.880 had a different way of designing tools, maybe using you know, 1540 01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:38.279 crystal based technology, uh and diamond based technology with with 1541 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.079 instead of using cheap metals like we like to do 1542 01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:43.399 because of everything for us, it's about making the profit. 1543 01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:48.239 They probably use very what they thought of was divine technology. 1544 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:52.359 So they are probably using very precious metals and minerals 1545 01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:56.560 to build their technology, uh, and probably understood anti gravitational 1546 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.720 you know sciences as well to to to go along 1547 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:01.760 with that kind of stuff. 1548 01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:07.600 What are your thoughts about these gods having created this 1549 01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:12.479 false matrix as a planet for us, that we are 1550 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:18.119 basically here under their control as some sort of you know, 1551 01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:21.560 slaves or prisoners for these false gods. 1552 01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:25.800 Yeah, now that's a deep one. And I think that 1553 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:29.039 I'm kind of with Sitching in the fact that I 1554 01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:34.520 think that the Onunaki themselves even venerated a creator of all. 1555 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.680 You know, I don't see the Onnaki or these old 1556 01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.920 world gods as the end all, be all deities or 1557 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.800 creator of our universe. I think they were just as 1558 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:47.399 lost and just as trapped in this matrix as we are. 1559 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:51.000 They just had an upper hand and kind of you know, 1560 01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.760 we're like the bully, right and kind of just bullied 1561 01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.960 us around or whatever, the big brothers, the big sisters. 1562 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:01.600 But I think these the energetic beings that are controlling 1563 01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:07.319 this versus this reality, go beyond the stories of the Ananachy, 1564 01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:10.520 go beyond the history of that, because that history itself 1565 01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:13.840 is only you know, maybe at most a million years old, 1566 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:18.319 you know, but the universe and the reality, for all 1567 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:22.319 we know, is infinite. So I think the beings that 1568 01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:26.760 are controlling this, this matrix grid in this false very 1569 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:31.640 reality that we live in are something vastly more sinister 1570 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:33.760 that we have. You have to understand. 1571 01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:37.239 Do you think that would be something that some understand 1572 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:40.840 as demons or lower vibrational entities. 1573 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:47.439 Yeah, I think that's one way to describe them. But 1574 01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:50.600 I think even again, I think they transcend those titles 1575 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:55.760 because those titles are just they're they're Christian ideologies, right, 1576 01:27:55.800 --> 01:28:00.359 and christ Christianity, Christian and Judaic ideologies, and that we're 1577 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:04.920 also influenced from Zoroastrianism. So these are ideologies and concepts 1578 01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:08.720 that are pretty pretty young in the scope of the universe. 1579 01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:11.720 So I think those are just ways that we use 1580 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:16.279 to cope with to understand these beings, but they transcend 1581 01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:17.640 those labels. 1582 01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:24.960 Lately, we've been seeing our own government are the pentagon, 1583 01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:31.039 the mainstream media mentioning UFOs, putting out reports, putting it 1584 01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:35.520 into the public consciousness. Now, I don't trust anything ever 1585 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:38.760 coming out of our government or media, and I've wondered 1586 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.279 from the beginning why they were doing this and what's 1587 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.960 the reason behind it. But I want to get your 1588 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:47.000 thought on it, because it can't be good in my eyes, 1589 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:50.319 and I don't think it is anything like we are 1590 01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:54.359 being told from those sources, and I'm not even sure 1591 01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:57.720 that they understand what they're dealing with. But what do 1592 01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:58.439 you think about that? 1593 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.359 Yeah, I share the same same thoughts. I think. I 1594 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:07.880 think for the most part, they're being deceived, you know. 1595 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:10.720 I think I think the government you know these uh, 1596 01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:13.039 well a lot of people that are that are coming 1597 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:15.439 forward with this stuff. It's not really like, you know, 1598 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.560 the the White House. I mean, the White House is 1599 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:20.720 partaking in this, but it's like these these uh, these 1600 01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:25.479 offshoots of intelligence, right, these these retired retired intelligence guys 1601 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:29.720 like Lewis Alisondo, right, all these retired dudes who are 1602 01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.079 coming out who and I think some of them are 1603 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.640 good hearted. You know, some of these retired intelligent guys 1604 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:37.239 who have been who've been involved with like Moufon and 1605 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.600 you know, the esoteric and conspirator community who have been 1606 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:43.159 fighting in a way to get some of this knowledge 1607 01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:44.840 out there. I think some of them are good hearted 1608 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:48.319 and believe what they've experienced is real and think that 1609 01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.359 humanity should know this stuff. But I think that, uh, 1610 01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:56.600 the government and some of these these intelligent organizations that 1611 01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:58.279 are trying to get the truth out there are being 1612 01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:03.560 somewhat deceived. Again, I think these beings are way more 1613 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:07.199 ancient than we know, and are way more sinister and 1614 01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:11.119 deceptive than we know. And for example, as JACQ Vley 1615 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:14.680 put it, you know, the world renowned uphologists, him and 1616 01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:17.800 Carl Jung, who also also wrote a book on UFOs 1617 01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:22.479 a controversial opinion on UFOs and aliens as opposed to 1618 01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.279 the rest of the UFO community. They think that these 1619 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:30.239 beings or this phenomenon is occurring subconsciously or within the 1620 01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:35.279 conscious realm. Jaqu Valat I'm quoting from him, paraphrasing from him, 1621 01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:39.800 he thought, He said that whatever these beings are, that 1622 01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:42.399 they are trying to get us to build a mythology 1623 01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:46.399 about them so that we can work them into our minds, 1624 01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:51.680 thus into our reality. For what reason? That's what's up 1625 01:30:51.680 --> 01:30:52.159 for question. 1626 01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.720 Do you think that these entities that we're dealing with 1627 01:30:56.800 --> 01:31:00.720 today in times are any way connected to the Innaki 1628 01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.600 or the missiles of the gods of the past. 1629 01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:08.800 You know, my opinions do not have changed, of course, 1630 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:11.600 Like Sitchen would tell us that that the gray alien 1631 01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:17.319 were somewhat of like sentient robots or you know, basically 1632 01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:21.840 just ai for the Onnaki. They were created so that 1633 01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:25.520 they could traverse, you know, vast amounts of space without 1634 01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:29.079 being harmed by you know, fast speeds or radiation or whatever, 1635 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:31.760 to go check up on us and different things. I 1636 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.640 think that's a possibility, and then you h but with 1637 01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:39.000 these grays, these grays are just a fascinating thing. Man 1638 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:44.399 like and Cradle Mudwa, for example, I did a documentary 1639 01:31:44.479 --> 01:31:48.319 him on the channel. He was the last Sanousi or 1640 01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:51.319 wisdom keeper of the Zulu tribe of Africa. He tells 1641 01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:54.960 many stories about these gray aliens and and everything that 1642 01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.039 he has experienced and went through and heard. He concluded 1643 01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.399 for himself that these beings were at actually us from 1644 01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:06.199 the future, and that they were coming back to punish us. 1645 01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:08.960 And that's why a lot of the times when you're 1646 01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:13.479 under abduction, a lot of people will report being shown 1647 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:19.199 graphic video and images of the world ending. So I 1648 01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:21.640 think they're like, they've kind of whatever these beings are, 1649 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:25.680 they've obviously lost their emotional capability, they've lost what we 1650 01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:29.640 would call soul, but they're very interested for some reason 1651 01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:35.079 in our warfare and our destruction and trying to stop that. 1652 01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:38.199 Strangely enough, that's very interesting. 1653 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:42.239 I've heard this before, and I've even proposed that these 1654 01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:47.079 gray aliens indeed are us future, coming to warn us 1655 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:53.079 against the agendas we have going connected to technology and transhumanism, 1656 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.119 and that could be where they came from. We keep 1657 01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:01.279 altering ourselves, we keep connecting ourselves to technology, grading our biology, 1658 01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:05.359 changing what we look like, interfacing ourselves, and maybe we 1659 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:09.039 do end up looking exactly like gray aliens. But there's 1660 01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:11.680 lots of problems with that, and we're just coming back 1661 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.399 to say stop what you're doing, and it's not too good, 1662 01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:15.720 you know. 1663 01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.319 Yeah, I think there's some truth to that, man. I mean, 1664 01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:22.880 once we started getting into like quatics and string theory, 1665 01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:26.319 and how there could be different timelines and dimensions. I 1666 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:28.920 think all of that stuff is plausible and that's all 1667 01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:29.680 part of it. 1668 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:34.359 Now let's go let's go back to some of the 1669 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:40.479 biblical stories. What are your thoughts on the stories of Moses. 1670 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:48.720 Okay, Moses fascinating figure mythologically, and I've come across some 1671 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:55.960 alternative scholars who included that acontin was actually Moses, and 1672 01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:59.760 there's some there's some pieces of evidence for that. Ocinatin, 1673 01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:03.479 of course, was Amenhotep the fourth who broke off from 1674 01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:09.119 the kingship to go start the first Egyptian monotheistic religion 1675 01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:12.960 where they worship Auten or the Son. So there was 1676 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:16.199 a lot of similarities with acon Natin and Moses, and 1677 01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:20.560 Moses even in the Bible and in esoteric teachings of 1678 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:25.439 the Bible. Uh, he was taught under the Egyptian beasthoods. 1679 01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:29.159 So Moses is like this a cult esoteric figure who knew, 1680 01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:34.880 you know, Egyptian mysticism and UH the Ten Commandments from 1681 01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:38.880 what I understand, and was somewhat again borrowed or like 1682 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:43.920 a rendition of some of the Egyptian UH Commandments coming 1683 01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:48.560 from I believe the Book of the dead. So there's 1684 01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:53.119 a lot of meshing from the Egyptian mysticism into the 1685 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:54.159 story of Moses. 1686 01:34:54.840 --> 01:35:00.159 What about the the archetype or story of Jesus. There 1687 01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:03.479 some that think that he never existed, some some that 1688 01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:05.960 think he was just an individual that went under a 1689 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.359 different name, Yeshiah. What about What do you think about 1690 01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:12.840 these stories? Man? 1691 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:15.920 That's that's the most prolific one right there, you know, 1692 01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:20.600 And I do plan on digging into that eventually and 1693 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.720 making my own final conclusion. I grew up, you know, 1694 01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:28.680 praying to Jesus and thinking it was real, and still 1695 01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:33.399 somewhat have a relationship with that, you know, energy and archetype. 1696 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:38.199 But I've read some things. In my conclusion right now 1697 01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:42.119 is there are some strange stuff there for and I'll 1698 01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:45.800 give you an example. Right So, it's like, supposedly there 1699 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:50.560 was an actual yes Yesua which is Joshua in English, 1700 01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:55.319 who was a political leader during that time. Uh so 1701 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:57.760 the apparently there's some evidence for that, you know, an 1702 01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:01.680 actual political leader around that time name yosh Yeshua Joshua. 1703 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:06.039 And then but you also have all these semblances of 1704 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:11.119 Greek philosophy influencing the New Testament. So I could see 1705 01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:14.279 why there would be, you know, a plot, I guess 1706 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:19.319 you could say, to create this mythology that has a 1707 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:23.640 lot of semblances to askro theology and pagan religion, and 1708 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:26.439 it's kind of telling a tale of how to awaken, 1709 01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:31.479 awaken the consciousness and break away from the system. But 1710 01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:36.720 what's also fascinating is how much early Judaism kind of 1711 01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:40.079 was repulsed by the idea of Jesus. There was a 1712 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:42.560 book by the name of the Tota Debt Yes You 1713 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:45.000 that used to be taught in the synagogues, but it 1714 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:49.359 was dismissed at sometime in modern history. So I'm in 1715 01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:57.159 the second millennium. Sorry, yes, sometimes the first millennium, but 1716 01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.399 in the Total Debt yes you, Uh. The the Jews 1717 01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:03.520 try to kind of like reverse the idea of Jesus, 1718 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.600 and they said he was nothing but a black magician 1719 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:10.720 who actually found out the name of God, wrote it 1720 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.520 on a piece of parchment, split his wrist, and then 1721 01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:15.840 slid the peace parchment in a risk, and that's how 1722 01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.039 he was able to do all the magic tricks. So 1723 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:20.600 I just think that I just felt like, if he 1724 01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:22.760 was fake, why not just say he was fake as 1725 01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:27.319 opposed to trying to degrade who he was, you know. 1726 01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.039 So there's just a lot of a lot of questionable 1727 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:32.079 things with that mythology in it. So as of right now, 1728 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.439 I don't know if he was real or not, but 1729 01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:37.840 there's some deeper mysteries that need to be looked at. 1730 01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:41.880 Now. In your eyes, do you think that the story 1731 01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:46.600 of humanity is that we are indeed special beings with 1732 01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:52.319 a divine spark that have a very intentful purpose and 1733 01:37:52.760 --> 01:37:56.079 very divine purpose for being here? Or are we just 1734 01:37:56.319 --> 01:38:01.840 creations from these beings that are merely here for their 1735 01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:06.239 scientific experiments and to find out what makes us tick? 1736 01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:11.600 Or is there is it like the story of Inland Lininky, 1737 01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.479 that they've given us this the divine spot, and one 1738 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:19.039 of them is jealous of that and did not intend 1739 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:21.680 on ever giving us that and wanted to remove it, 1740 01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.279 and the other one does actually have some kind of 1741 01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:29.560 compassion for us and wants us to evolve and grow 1742 01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:30.960 into spiritual beings. 1743 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:34.239 Yeah, I think that's pretty much what happened. 1744 01:38:34.399 --> 01:38:34.640 You know. 1745 01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:39.000 They wanted to just create us a benign, you know, 1746 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:43.159 non intelligent being that could just be used to work 1747 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:47.439 for them, but they just admired us some of them 1748 01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.039 admired us and saw the potential in us and saw 1749 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.039 themselves in us, you know, as the Bible says, you know, 1750 01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:55.600 God made man in his image. So I think that 1751 01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:57.880 some of them, like Enki admired us and saw the 1752 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.920 potential in us and upgraded us even further and gave 1753 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.319 us knowledge and saw that we could be taught and 1754 01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:08.279 that we could learn and we could become worthy of sovereignty. 1755 01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:11.199 And then some others like and Lil just kind of 1756 01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:15.159 were just discussed by the whole process, especially when they 1757 01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:17.880 started mating with us. I mean that was like akin 1758 01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.279 to us, you know, having sex with Ai robots or something. 1759 01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:27.840 Do you think that some of these mythological creatures that 1760 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:32.279 we've heard about through ancient texts throughout the ages possibly 1761 01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:36.920 still exist and are what are seen as bigfoots or 1762 01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:42.840 dog men or cryptid creatures, and they're just entities or 1763 01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:47.239 possibly even you know, interdimensional or extraterrestrial beings that we 1764 01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:49.000 don't understand yet. 1765 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:53.560 I think when it comes to like the cryptids and 1766 01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:56.960 that kind of stuff, I believe that those are just 1767 01:39:57.039 --> 01:40:02.960 like interdimensional, like just strain beings from either interdimensional or 1768 01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:07.479 like caught in our timeline by accident from wherever they 1769 01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:10.520 come from, I think a lot. I think a lot 1770 01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:14.880 of the monster mythologies are also like kind of dramatized. 1771 01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:20.399 For example, like in the Sumerian anuma Alish, which is 1772 01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:23.880 the story of the creation of the Solar system, it 1773 01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.479 is told like a battle. You know, if you read it, 1774 01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:28.560 you think you're reading a battle between the gods and 1775 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.520 demons or monsters and the great monster. The great antagonists 1776 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.359 of the story is Tiamat, who is told who is 1777 01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:39.920 described as a watery like dragon, But really it's it's 1778 01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:42.880 a planet that they're describing. So I think, you know, 1779 01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:45.720 our ancestors read some of these texts and took them 1780 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.920 for face value as if there were monsters, but they 1781 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:51.319 were really cosmological tales of how our planets and our 1782 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:52.439 solar systems came to be. 1783 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:56.199 What about some of these guys, do you think are 1784 01:40:56.279 --> 01:41:02.840 also just archetypes or astrologic representations of planets and different 1785 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:07.239 energies and the cosmos and not necessarily physical beings. 1786 01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:10.199 Yeah, I think there's a lot of that going on. 1787 01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:14.439 I think the further we got from the Sumerian tales, 1788 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:20.199 the more the stuff got like psychedelic and fanaticized, but 1789 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:23.920 it's obvious a lot of this stuff has astro theology 1790 01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:27.279 built into it, and kind of the same way that 1791 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:31.640 you know, will will name streets after presidents, you know, 1792 01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:35.720 they'll they named planets or constellations after gods. So I 1793 01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:39.520 think the gods that these planets or constellations were named after, 1794 01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:42.319 at least some of them were real beings that were 1795 01:41:42.439 --> 01:41:44.520 just our people, that were just so great that we're 1796 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:45.439 given that honor. 1797 01:41:46.960 --> 01:41:50.760 Now, what are your thoughts on the possibility that the 1798 01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:55.800 communication with the gods was strictly achieved through altered states, 1799 01:41:55.840 --> 01:42:01.520 such such as psychedelic or plant medicines that our ancients 1800 01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:04.560 used to do, you know, these certain ceremonies or rituals, 1801 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:08.119 and under these effects they would make contact with these 1802 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:11.720 entities and get the information and the writings and basically 1803 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:15.319 our history and instructions on how to go forward. Do 1804 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:16.720 you think that that's a possibility. 1805 01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:21.520 Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely, Like like the Greek Eleusian 1806 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:25.119 or Elysian mysteries, you know, like we're like this whole 1807 01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:28.920 sacrament stuff comes from drinking the wine and stuff like that. Yeah, 1808 01:42:29.319 --> 01:42:34.439 psychedelics definitely played a part in our esoteric and mystical priesthoods, 1809 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:38.199 and I think that they were separate from the mythologies 1810 01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:39.720 of the gods, and I think we kind of just 1811 01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:43.119 coupled them, and maybe when they were tripping, they kind 1812 01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:45.840 of believed that they were seeing these gods. But I 1813 01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:48.199 think those are two separate things. You know, the psychedelic 1814 01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:51.079 trips and the stories of the ancient gods are too 1815 01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:57.119 separate phenomenon to separate experiences. And I've done psychedelics myself, 1816 01:42:57.119 --> 01:43:00.000 and I believe when you're when you're on those trips, 1817 01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:02.880 I mean, it's easy to like kind of fall into 1818 01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:07.119 the illusiory, you know, ideas and thoughts and all that 1819 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:09.359 kind of stuff. But behind all of that there is 1820 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:14.960 this like intuitive energy force, which I believe is something 1821 01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:16.720 that precedes these archetypes. 1822 01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:23.159 When you look at everything that's unfolding in the past 1823 01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:27.520 few years and the awakening that humanity's going under and 1824 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:31.760 the realizations, do you think that we are headed to 1825 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:38.720 an age where we understand more about the nature of reality, 1826 01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:44.479 being that it's an interdimensional reality, that we do possibly 1827 01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:48.000 come from these beings, that we may have been created, 1828 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:52.399 and that the reason that we're going through all of 1829 01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:56.159 this turmoil and everything is because we're going through a 1830 01:43:56.199 --> 01:43:59.600 phase of awakening, and this is inevitable role that we 1831 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.760 learn this about ourselves and ndules that are attempting to 1832 01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:03.399 stop this. 1833 01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:09.279 Yeah, I think we're definitely going through an awakening and 1834 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:11.439 we're starting to kind of just grow up and mature 1835 01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:15.079 as a species and realize the games that we have 1836 01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:19.800 been playing, you know, with ourselves, with each other. But 1837 01:44:19.840 --> 01:44:22.199 it's beautiful and it's a process we need to undergo, 1838 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:26.239 and we need to understand that we as beings, we 1839 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:30.439 transcend these institutions that we continually box ourselves in, and 1840 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:32.560 we don't need to be afraid of this endeavor. We 1841 01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:35.840 shouldn't be afraid of leaving behind our religions and leaving 1842 01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:39.600 behind our beliefs, because our beliefs aren't us, you know, 1843 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:42.119 we exist apart from those things, and we need to 1844 01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:46.760 start focusing on reality a little more instead of all 1845 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:50.520 these fanaticized stuff. But I believe that what's going on 1846 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:55.000 is that energetic beings, for more or less, are possessing humans, 1847 01:44:56.039 --> 01:45:01.000 and maybe they're tacking themselves on to humans that do have, 1848 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:06.560 you know, vulnerabilities within their psyche or their genes, such 1849 01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:12.079 as these RH negative blood types or these elites who 1850 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:15.560 are vulnerable to corruption and stuff like that, kind of 1851 01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:18.319 like the Atlantian story that Toath tells us in the tablets. 1852 01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:21.520 I think we're just being taken advantage of through our psyche, 1853 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:22.640 through our subconscious. 1854 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:28.039 And do you think that everyone that is coming to 1855 01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:33.840 these realizations and going through this awakening right now is 1856 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.319 a part of a specific group of people that's meant 1857 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:41.600 to come online during these times? 1858 01:45:42.279 --> 01:45:45.359 Yeah, I do believe that. I think that there is 1859 01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:49.000 a certain set of people that it's their time. I 1860 01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:53.199 think every generation has some set of people that were 1861 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:56.279 either either chose to be a part of this journey 1862 01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:59.000 or just being called to be a part of this journey. 1863 01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:01.279 But yeah, I think there's a group of us, a 1864 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:05.760 community of us worldwide who were specifically chosen for this 1865 01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:09.840 generation and you know, within this hundred years to uh 1866 01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:12.720 or waken up and also help others wake up. 1867 01:46:14.359 --> 01:46:17.000 Now, do you see that there is a kind of 1868 01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:23.439 war also right now on spirituality to get people to 1869 01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:28.000 be more materialistic and turn away from spirituality. But I 1870 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.399 think that that's the age that we're heading to, is 1871 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:32.960 where they're trying to get people turn to turn to 1872 01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:37.680 a more materialistic age. Where do you see that in 1873 01:46:37.720 --> 01:46:41.159 the grand scheme of what's happening right now with all 1874 01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:42.079 the agendas? 1875 01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:47.760 Oh yeah, absolutely, man. Like, intuitively, I believe that I 1876 01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:50.359 smiss time for example, right, which is like this lovey 1877 01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:53.239 w like, I mean, Christmas time is just has a 1878 01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:56.079 strange energy around and everybody just feels different around that 1879 01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:58.760 time for the most part. And I think intuitively, like 1880 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:02.079 in our inchient past, that was the time of renewal, right, 1881 01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:05.800 because we see everything's kind of dying around us, it's 1882 01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:09.239 all getting cold, and then we're getting we're getting ready 1883 01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:11.039 for the renewal, We're getting ready for the new year. 1884 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:13.880 We're getting you know. So all this pagans and stuff 1885 01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:18.560 that our ancient ancestors revolve themselves around was used to 1886 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:21.479 be beautiful, used to be spiritual, because I mean, that 1887 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:23.600 is a life. That's how life carries on, is these 1888 01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:26.399 cyclical things on earth, these cyclical things within our bodies. 1889 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:29.239 So I think back in the ancient times we were 1890 01:47:29.239 --> 01:47:32.239 more in tune with the cyclicalness of nature. And so 1891 01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:35.600 for example, like in during Christmas time, you know, people 1892 01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:38.880 have postulated that the idea of elves and deers and 1893 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:42.920 Santa Claus and gifts and stuff like that actually comes 1894 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:47.039 from these ancient sacred rituals around Christmas time where we 1895 01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:50.319 would bring in the new year, where we would we 1896 01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:54.520 would take mushrooms or different psychedelics which were represented now 1897 01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:59.439 as the elves and our Santa Claus and reindeer, because reindeer, 1898 01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:03.319 you know, they around mushrooms and and forging around the forest. 1899 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:06.520 And I think that the gifts, the gifts used to 1900 01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:09.199 be just nature. It used to be family, it used 1901 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:13.239 to be life, and but now it's like all of 1902 01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:16.039 that has just been transformed to It's like now Christmas 1903 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.439 is just like all about you know exactly material things. 1904 01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:21.560 You know, just what's Santa going to give me? You know, 1905 01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:23.680 what am I getting for Christmas? Is all this like 1906 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:28.279 physicalness also materialness. So I think there's definitely, over the 1907 01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:31.560 years been a huge shift in our spiritual awareness, a 1908 01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:35.479 huge shift in our morals and what we view precious 1909 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.359 and valuable about life. 1910 01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:42.439 What are your thoughts on the possibility that these elites 1911 01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:46.880 and those in control are practicing some sort of Saturn 1912 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:48.960 worship or or chronos. 1913 01:48:50.520 --> 01:48:54.359 Yeah, as a fascinating theory. I love that one, and 1914 01:48:55.640 --> 01:48:57.760 I let David aykeshu to say about it? You know 1915 01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:02.960 how that Saturn is a certain frequency at the Moon 1916 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:06.960 which is being used as a receiver to then shoot 1917 01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.720 that down towards us at a more concentrated rate, and 1918 01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:16.079 that process actually keeps us in this Saturn matrix. I 1919 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:18.239 think there's some truth to that, you know, it's it's 1920 01:49:18.279 --> 01:49:22.119 fascinating and you for some reason, you do see Saturn everywhere, 1921 01:49:22.520 --> 01:49:25.800 and Saturn is also represented as the cube, and I 1922 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:29.560 guess there is some sort of mathematical six x' six 1923 01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:33.199 built into the cube and Saturn two somehow. So that 1924 01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:35.359 is strange. And we do live in a world of 1925 01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:40.600 in a reality of archetypes and of thought, so logos 1926 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:47.039 or or you know, images, subliminalism is the game that 1927 01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:47.760 we are playing. 1928 01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:54.439 Do you think that reincordination is a part of our existence? Uh? 1929 01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:58.399 And if so, do you think that it's any way 1930 01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:04.079 under the control of negative entities that are keeping us here? 1931 01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:07.840 Sorry, what was the first part of the question. 1932 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:11.439 Do you think reincarnation is a part of our existence? 1933 01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:19.560 Okay, I think it definitely does occur, But my mind 1934 01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:21.920 has changed on that because I've read a book. I 1935 01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:23.760 read a book a while back it's called Coming to 1936 01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:27.279 Life by one of the famous uh Swamis. I don't 1937 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:28.920 know how to say his last name, but it's Ac 1938 01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:31.880 and the something with to be. But the book is 1939 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:35.039 called coming or no, it's called coming, coming back. And 1940 01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:36.840 he was the first one that brought it to my intention, 1941 01:50:37.479 --> 01:50:42.399 to my attention. He brought to my attention that reincarnation 1942 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:46.319 is not it's not a belief system. It's not like 1943 01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:50.399 like Christianity. It's not a doctrine meant to explain life 1944 01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:53.520 and death that you follow. Reincarnation is something that you 1945 01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:57.840 are supposed to avidly get out of, you know, so, 1946 01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.479 so we are supposed to. He says in the book 1947 01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:03.960 that if you are human, you have already lived through 1948 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:09.079 the other soul phases, and you are privileged more than 1949 01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:11.880 all the other souls because you have reached the highest 1950 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:16.640 level before ascension. So human human being human is the 1951 01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:20.680 last phase where you get to decide or where you 1952 01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:24.039 have the opportunity to ascend or fall right back into 1953 01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:28.399 the cycle. So my thoughts on reincarnation are just that 1954 01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:33.039 that there is a cyclical process with the soul, and 1955 01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:36.760 if you don't ascend while you're human, and if you 1956 01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:40.279 don't tap into your consciousness and remember that that's what 1957 01:51:40.359 --> 01:51:42.520 you are, and that's how you need to transition over 1958 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:46.359 to the next phase. Then you're wasting your time and 1959 01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:48.960 you're going to be recycled consciously or not. 1960 01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:54.760 Let's end on this. Do you think that we live 1961 01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:59.920 on the traditional model of a planet in the space 1962 01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:04.279 or is it something different that we don't really understand. 1963 01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:08.359 Maybe some understand, but the main majority of people don't. 1964 01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:13.039 It's like a realm or a simulated reality or holographic reality, 1965 01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:16.399 or even some kind of you know, flat plane, don't 1966 01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:19.720 you know. I don't think that the flat earth is 1967 01:52:19.760 --> 01:52:22.279 a good term anymore. I think we need to look 1968 01:52:22.439 --> 01:52:26.319 further and deeper into it. But I personally don't believe 1969 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:29.279 that the traditional model of space holds up at all, 1970 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:32.640 and that everything that comes out of NASA is a lie. 1971 01:52:32.800 --> 01:52:34.920 So where do you think that leads us? 1972 01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:39.199 Man, I just got into well, two of my friends 1973 01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:41.079 just got into a debate about this the other day. 1974 01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:45.039 You know, I love flat earth debates, and I'll tell 1975 01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:47.159 you what, I definitely don't believe what NASA and the 1976 01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:52.199 mainstream is telling us either. For sure, I would love 1977 01:52:52.279 --> 01:52:54.960 to go see it for myself, but In that debate 1978 01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:59.640 that my friends were having, I kind of sided with 1979 01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:01.720 one of my friends who said that we are just 1980 01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:05.239 living that whatever it is we are on, you know, 1981 01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:08.439 via a quote unquote planet Earth, it's actually just an 1982 01:53:08.680 --> 01:53:12.720 endless realm, and that we are just being told to 1983 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:16.359 stay here in this in this encampment. And I kind 1984 01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:19.680 of vibe with that, and I as, right now, that's 1985 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:21.960 where I'm at, and I think that we are just 1986 01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:25.159 being told that all we are is on this little 1987 01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:28.600 earth of a handful of continents, but really there's so 1988 01:53:28.760 --> 01:53:29.720 much more out there. 1989 01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:34.880 Yeah, that is a fascinating idea of just endless land. 1990 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:39.479 And you know that land could be considered extraterrestrial land, 1991 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.399 and the bees that live there may not be what 1992 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:45.680 you consider humans. So that's a that's that adds another 1993 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.560 layer to that which is even more fascinating, right. 1994 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:52.359 Yeah, No, Yeah, some people have postulated that like these 1995 01:53:52.399 --> 01:53:55.079 occur are these gods, They were just you know, akin 1996 01:53:55.159 --> 01:53:56.880 to us, but they were just on a different part 1997 01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.000 of the realm and just kind of came here and 1998 01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:01.640 stumbled upon us, just kind of like took advantage of us, 1999 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.039 like well, they're gonna believe us whatever. 2000 01:54:04.720 --> 01:54:07.880 Right on, Yes, man, this is fascinating stuff and I'd 2001 01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.079 definitely love to have you back on the future to 2002 01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:13.399 discuss more before you head out, let the audience know 2003 01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:16.159 where they can find more about yourself, your work, your 2004 01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:19.600 YouTube channel, anything you got going Yeah. 2005 01:54:19.640 --> 01:54:23.520 Absolutely fastest way to get in contact with me and 2006 01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:24.880 just keep up to date with what I got going 2007 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:29.359 on is Instagram at Esoteric Eddie, and I also upload 2008 01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:35.079 monthly documentaries and videos on YouTube at Esoteric EDDIETV. Just 2009 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:39.000 release my recent book on Lucifer. You can get it 2010 01:54:39.039 --> 01:54:42.239 on Amazon or you can message me on Instagram if 2011 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:44.840 you'd like assigned a copy. You can also order a 2012 01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:48.319 paperback copy at at terek Eddie dot com, where I 2013 01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:52.239 have some cool shirts and merch right on. 2014 01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:55.279 Man, Well, thank you so much. That was fantastic and 2015 01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:56.880 like I said, we'll have to talk again soon. 2016 01:54:57.439 --> 01:54:59.319 Yeah, man, thanks for having me for sure. 2017 01:54:59.439 --> 01:55:02.359 Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll be 2018 01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:07.319 talking to again tomorrow. Check out the incredible artwork of 2019 01:55:07.439 --> 01:55:09.640 Johnny Larson featured on the cover