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Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show Ryan Bledsoe.
Speaker 1: He has had experiences with supernatural phenomena UFOs and intelligence
Speaker 1: agencies following an entity encounter in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: known as one of the most publicly documented cases of
Speaker 1: all time. He Autohosa podcast Bledsoe said so with his
Speaker 1: best friend Nick discussing the paranormal, spirituality, UFOs, consciousness, and
Speaker 1: all things weird beyond the Veil. Ryan, Welcome back. How
Speaker 1: you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Chris. I'm happy to be back. I
Speaker 2: had a blast last time.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. It's great to have you back
Speaker 1: on You are already, like I told you, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite guests because of your seemingly advanced understanding of
Speaker 1: not only yours, but yours and your family's experiences and
Speaker 1: what we call extraterrestrials, UFOs and the paranormal. You've experienced
Speaker 1: a wide range of this phenomenon, and you've even had
Speaker 1: some trying and even dangerous events events unfold for you,
Speaker 1: which I want to get into a little bit now
Speaker 1: for the audience that hasn't seen you last time or
Speaker 1: may not be familiar with your story, would you mind
Speaker 1: giving us a little synopsis of it up to where
Speaker 1: you are today?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so last time I felt like we ran through
Speaker 2: it for quite a while. So I would definitely say
Speaker 2: check out the previous episode with me on it, but
Speaker 2: just you know, the kind of like.
Speaker 1: The synopsis of where we where we were?
Speaker 2: Yes, so the decently short version of it, and you
Speaker 2: know it's sent through fifteen years of context here, but
Speaker 2: you know that's okay. Back in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: my father had just an incredible experience with orbs and
Speaker 2: beings light and what most people would know as aliens
Speaker 2: or interdimensional entities or angels or what have you. And
Speaker 2: shortly after that he was on the Discovery Channel, and
Speaker 2: then the rest is history got involved with like NASA, CIA,
Speaker 2: all kinds of three letter agencies with the Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: and that's been going on fifteen years. And here we
Speaker 2: are today. I'm coming up on one year of my podcast.
Speaker 2: Bleds have said, so as you can see, I'm in
Speaker 2: the studio now.
Speaker 1: So awesome, man, how's that going, by the way, Oh.
Speaker 2: It's going great. I mean, I was just checking the
Speaker 2: numbers today because I'm a little sappy because our one
Speaker 2: year is in two days. So we've just been really
Speaker 2: you know, talking things through and kind of looking back.
Speaker 2: And at some point last month we had hit number
Speaker 2: one on the charts for spirituality categories. So it's going
Speaker 2: far better than I could have ever imagined. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just best case scenario, and we're so grateful and
Speaker 2: blessed and it's just been a wild ride, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it has.
Speaker 1: I love the way podcasting is going. I love how
Speaker 1: many different voices I can listen to now with such
Speaker 1: wonderful content and information. Hopefully it doesn't get smashed down
Speaker 1: on through censorship, but you know, I have my hopes
Speaker 1: up that we are still the last frontier here. How
Speaker 1: does your family feel about your podcasting? You know, after
Speaker 1: everything that's happened.
Speaker 2: I think at first they supported me just because I
Speaker 2: was their family member and they didn't quite know like
Speaker 2: what I was going to say or anything like that. Now,
Speaker 2: with the success we've had and kind of what has
Speaker 2: turned out to be and the positivity that we've put out,
Speaker 2: they're all on board. They're behind me one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: and they couldn't be happier with me and for me.
Speaker 2: So it's just great all around.
Speaker 1: Right on. Man, Now, what I want to get into
Speaker 1: today is a little bit deeper into your understanding of
Speaker 1: the phenomenon and what is happening right now with the
Speaker 1: disclosure and the deceptions that we're seeing, the infiltrations into
Speaker 1: people in this community. I've been to plenty of UFO conferences.
Speaker 1: I don't do them anymore because they just put a
Speaker 1: bad taste in my mouth from all the insertion of
Speaker 1: former three letter agency individuals, people who are there just
Speaker 1: to muddy the water, people who are just there for
Speaker 1: attention and have these crazy, wild stories. So you got
Speaker 1: this mix of just misinformation and disinformation about what extraterrestrials
Speaker 1: and UFOs and this phenomena really is. And I think
Speaker 1: you know, to best understand it, you have to experience
Speaker 1: it yourself. Now I've had my own experiences. It's not
Speaker 1: what I would with what I would consider UFOs or extraterrestrials.
Speaker 1: It's what I would consider my spirit guides or ancestors
Speaker 1: and things like that. To me, it's a much more
Speaker 1: spiritual phenomenon. But to each his own, because I know
Speaker 1: there is probably some physical aspects to this that I
Speaker 1: just don't understand yet. And there's this whole phenomenous like
Speaker 1: a massive onion that you keep peeling and peeling, and
Speaker 1: you can't get to the center of h from the
Speaker 1: time you first had your experience to now, how has
Speaker 1: your understanding of what ET or an extraterrestrial is it?
Speaker 1: Has that changed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And before I dive into that question, I just
Speaker 2: want to say you said it flawlessly. That was I
Speaker 2: just couldn't say it any better about how you know,
Speaker 2: like the UFO subject or crowd or what have you
Speaker 2: has definitely been infiltrated by bad actors and things of
Speaker 2: that sort. And to be honest with you, that's why
Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with that sort of crowd
Speaker 2: or conference or anything. I'm not knocking people that believe
Speaker 2: in the subject, but it's more so than the people
Speaker 2: that want to speak for the subject. And anyway, I
Speaker 2: just totally agree with you one hundred percent what you
Speaker 2: said about that. And yeah, so the experience has started
Speaker 2: when I was thirteen years old. I'm twenty eight now,
Speaker 2: going on twenty nine in a month and some change
Speaker 2: in a few days. So it's coming up on sixteen
Speaker 2: years this year that we've kind of been this well
Speaker 2: known normal family throughout the world. And I got to say,
Speaker 2: like growing up on the inside of the subject with
Speaker 2: the people coming around and poking and prodding and demanding
Speaker 2: answers and wanting to keep in your yard and wanting
Speaker 2: to know what it's all about.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: It was a pretty it was a pretty wild upbringing.
Speaker 2: And I would say that since my childhood, I have
Speaker 2: probably had thousands of personal experiences, whether I'm by myself
Speaker 2: or with my wife or friends or family with my dad,
Speaker 2: varying from seeing tiny dots zipping around the sky and
Speaker 2: blinking and disappearing to actually having entities in my room
Speaker 2: touched me on my body. I just got to say, man,
Speaker 2: I don't buy anything that the government, the one percent,
Speaker 2: the mainstream media, whatever you want to call the boogeyman.
Speaker 2: There's definite boogeyman. I don't buy it. It completely doesn't
Speaker 2: rock with my personal experience. That's not to say that
Speaker 2: there might not be some sort of physical phenomenon somewhere
Speaker 2: out of the universe. I mean, I couldn't possibly know that.
Speaker 2: I haven't been to space. I don't I don't even
Speaker 2: know that that they're really going to space, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're really coming from space. But
Speaker 2: in my experience, what I can speak to is the
Speaker 2: phenomenon that I have been reacted with around my family
Speaker 2: and others has been a spiritual phenomenon. It's been light,
Speaker 2: it's been energy, it's been magical, you know, like you
Speaker 2: read about ancient folklore with the genies and the fairies
Speaker 2: and the angels and the things like that. It's been
Speaker 2: more like that with them making profound things happen at
Speaker 2: just the right time, at just the point in your
Speaker 2: life when you needed some sort of sign or guidance
Speaker 2: or whatsoever. And I would say, like, I'm one hundred
Speaker 2: percent on board with the fact that it is a
Speaker 2: spiritual phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it seems to be extremely personal as well
Speaker 1: for those that are experience having a genuine experience. These
Speaker 1: kind of group experiences that you rarely hear about are
Speaker 1: usually nefarious and probably involved the military to some degree.
Speaker 1: But most people's experiences they grow from it. They have
Speaker 1: spiritual growth. They kind of experience this sense of wanting
Speaker 1: to better themselves and do better in their lives. And
Speaker 1: the information given to most people had genuine contact experiences
Speaker 1: is either for their own benefit or the immediate benefit
Speaker 1: of people surrounding them. And it's a very personal thing,
Speaker 1: and it seems to be atched to personal spiritual growth
Speaker 1: and when people after people have these experiences they are better,
Speaker 1: and they don't are less trusting of mainstream type of
Speaker 1: information and Daddy government and things that they're trying to
Speaker 1: expose right now. So I can see why the government
Speaker 1: would want to kind of sway, what's really happening to
Speaker 1: something that is completely different, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, I'm right there with you, man. It's like
Speaker 2: everybody that's been around, they have all these ideas, and
Speaker 2: I just want to, you know, put out a little
Speaker 2: reminder that, you know, growing up from childhood, I've had
Speaker 2: hundreds of people come to my property just to get
Speaker 2: a piece of my dad and meet him and hear
Speaker 2: the story. I've met so many, countless number of people
Speaker 2: who who are are wanting to figure out like what
Speaker 2: this thing is. And everybody that comes to our property
Speaker 2: and has some sort of sighting, they leave with their
Speaker 2: mind utterly melted from what they thought that it should
Speaker 2: have been or would have been, or what have you.
Speaker 2: And many of them, if not most, were either meant
Speaker 2: to be there to see this for some, you know,
Speaker 2: very incredibly personal purpose, like having gone through trauma or
Speaker 2: tragic death in the family that affected them deeply, and
Speaker 2: a lot of them walk away feeling like they were
Speaker 2: renewed in the sense that there is a higher power
Speaker 2: that's watching them and hears their cries and is willing
Speaker 2: to help. And I do believe that is the case.
Speaker 2: I do believe that if we wanted to get out
Speaker 2: of the box and speculate, I think again, if you
Speaker 2: look at these ancient descriptions of entities from you know,
Speaker 2: the mystical texts and even the exoteric texts of the past,
Speaker 2: like the Bible and what have you, it's probably the
Speaker 2: closest description that would make a lot of sense to
Speaker 2: what this phenomenon is. It's very personal, it's very it's
Speaker 2: very spiritual. It's it actually hears you. It actually hears
Speaker 2: your thoughts and your cries out for help and things
Speaker 2: like that. And typically that's when they appear, is when
Speaker 2: people really need it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, man, Now, does your family still live in
Speaker 1: that same property?
Speaker 2: No, not quite, that we moved out. I was actually
Speaker 2: still living with my parents back then when we moved out,
Speaker 2: just out of college, so that was probably twenty sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it was late twenty sixteen. And now they
Speaker 2: live just across town, a hop and skip away on
Speaker 2: actually an even more active property where the experience is
Speaker 2: ramped up entirely because it's it's pretty, uh shaded out
Speaker 2: in the woods on a thirteen acre lot on a
Speaker 2: body of water.
Speaker 1: So a lot of followed you guys, so it's attached
Speaker 1: to your family for some reason.
Speaker 2: Correct, That seems to be the case. And the activity
Speaker 2: actually picked up when they moved, a lot of people
Speaker 2: thought maybe it was the property. And I get why
Speaker 2: people would think that it's a valid, you know, assumption,
Speaker 2: but it definitely followed.
Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. Now, you said you've had experiences until now,
Speaker 1: have you had any that you'd like to talk about?
Speaker 1: So maybe that stick out in your mind a little
Speaker 1: bit more than others.
Speaker 2: Sure, So probably the most wild experience I've had in
Speaker 2: my entire life. And I want to just put up
Speaker 2: a hand of caution here. I actually do the hand.
Speaker 2: I'm a man of my word and say to those
Speaker 2: of you, if you're listening and you have no clue
Speaker 2: who I am or any of my background whatsoever, I
Speaker 2: would urge you to really, after this or before this,
Speaker 2: if you want to pause, that's totally cool. Go go
Speaker 2: just check out who we are and like what the
Speaker 2: experience is, because this is going to be really weird,
Speaker 2: and it's not going to make a lot of sense
Speaker 2: if you don't, if you don't have any clue what
Speaker 2: we're discussing.
Speaker 1: How we live weird here?
Speaker 2: Great? Great, Yeah, I love the weird as well. It's
Speaker 2: basically my life since childhood. So here's what happened. So
Speaker 2: I'm eighteen years old. This is five years after my
Speaker 2: dad has already been you know, talked about around the
Speaker 2: world for the documentary, and the hundreds of people have
Speaker 2: been coming to our proper and this and that and
Speaker 2: the other. We'd have tents out in our yard. My
Speaker 2: dad's just such a nice man. He would just let
Speaker 2: Boddy and everybody come over, even the Department of Defense.
Speaker 2: I mean still to this day, they're coming around and
Speaker 2: they're calling, and my dad is just so nice. He
Speaker 2: can always close the door, and I totally don't blame him.
Speaker 2: And I would say the weirdest experience is I was
Speaker 2: eighteen years old. I was a freshman in college, So again,
Speaker 2: five years after the initial encounter, and I know this
Speaker 2: was twenty twelve because this was within months, if not weeks,
Speaker 2: after my dad had his most profound encounter of all,
Speaker 2: which will this be on video Chris, Yes, okay, So
Speaker 2: if the audience can see right behind me here, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if the image will be reversed or not.
Speaker 2: But this depiction right here is what my dad encountered
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. It was a female entity. It was
Speaker 2: roughly floating four foot off the ground. She was ethereal
Speaker 2: like a ghost like being. She had a flowing white
Speaker 2: dress that twinkled like the stars, blonde hair, blue eyes.
Speaker 2: Changed his life, and she had a lot of things
Speaker 2: to tell him that we do the great detail about
Speaker 2: in our podcast on episode seventeen, And it totally up
Speaker 2: to you. I'd be willing to talk about that here
Speaker 2: wherever you want to go, I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 2: But to get to point, shortly after my dad had
Speaker 2: that encounter, I had an encounter very similar, not that
Speaker 2: I saw her, but that I kind of heard her
Speaker 2: in a sense. It was very strange. So for a
Speaker 2: little context, when this being first appeared to my dad,
Speaker 2: she looked like a bull, like a ghostly spiritual bull,
Speaker 2: and it ran through him and knocked him over, and
Speaker 2: he didn't feel anything physical. It felt like a powerful wind.
Speaker 2: And then when he turned over and kind of like
Speaker 2: got up on his hands and knees. That's what he
Speaker 2: was looking at, was this beautiful blonde hair, blue eyed woman.
Speaker 2: So weeks or months I can't remember because this was
Speaker 2: literally ten years ago, but weeks or months had passed,
Speaker 2: same year, without a doubt. I know, same year because
Speaker 2: we were talking about this experience, and it might have
Speaker 2: been summer, it might have been a couple, you know,
Speaker 2: within a month or two after the initial thing happened. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm outside, I'm talking to like, I don't understand Dad,
Speaker 2: Why am I having these profound aggiences? But you and
Speaker 2: Mom and Chris Junior and my oldest brother who was
Speaker 2: there with my dad that first night, I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are you three having these experiences and seeing all these
Speaker 2: things and these entities sometimes and even my brother Jeremy
Speaker 2: had caught a glimpse of one, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand why I'm not having such close and
Speaker 2: personal encounters. It's like I'm not, you know, deserving of it,
Speaker 2: or it wants nothing to do with me. And I
Speaker 2: was just really down and out. And my dad was like,
Speaker 2: you don't get a son, You're not ready because of
Speaker 2: your attitude, and your attitude is that you don't even
Speaker 2: accept them for what they are. You have doubt in
Speaker 2: your mind. And I said, well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just hard for me to believe that they're listening
Speaker 2: to me at all times. How could they do that
Speaker 2: if they're up there with their technology, There's no way
Speaker 2: they could. They could listen to me from miles and
Speaker 2: miles or even light years away and know what I'm
Speaker 2: thinking and know what I'm saying. I just wasn't ready
Speaker 2: to accept that. And he said, son, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: They're magical. They hear your thoughts, they know what you're thinking,
Speaker 2: they know what you're doing, and they and they basically
Speaker 2: you know, are not going to show to you until
Speaker 2: you're ready. And within minutes I forgot to mention. We
Speaker 2: were outside in our yard, in the backyard, late at
Speaker 2: night on a summer It was a six acre yard,
Speaker 2: so our backyard was literally like the size of a
Speaker 2: football field, if not three quarters of one perhaps, and
Speaker 2: we were out in the back just looking up at
Speaker 2: bars like we did. And right about that time, I
Speaker 2: heard a cow move in my backyard and I looked
Speaker 2: at my dad with big bright eyes, and I knew
Speaker 2: what it was deep down, but I didn't say that
Speaker 2: I believed it or accepted it. I was kind of
Speaker 2: irritated that that was how I had chosen to appear
Speaker 2: to me. And I was like, Dad, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: the neighbors have a cow. Whatever. Our neighbors did not
Speaker 2: have a cow. The neighbors on the other side were
Speaker 2: my grandparents. They clearly don't have cows. I would have
Speaker 2: known that there was a fence on all sides of
Speaker 2: the property. There was no way any sort of cow
Speaker 2: could have walked onto our property. Not to mention, my
Speaker 2: dad went driving around the area the next day and
Speaker 2: the closest cows were over five miles away minimum, so
Speaker 2: there was no physical colum this property anyway. So right
Speaker 2: about the time I heard the first cow, I look
Speaker 2: at my dad. He looks at me, and then another
Speaker 2: one moves, and then a third one moves, and then
Speaker 2: a fourth one, and then a fifth one, and then
Speaker 2: we hear four or five cows moving over each other,
Speaker 2: like it was a freakin' farm, just cows and cows moving,
Speaker 2: and it was so loud that we couldn't even hear
Speaker 2: each other speak. And then he looked at me and
Speaker 2: he said, you got your experience and it took me
Speaker 2: eight or nine years to realize that these entities were
Speaker 2: moving like a cow just to for lack of better words,
Speaker 2: mess with me. So I would never forget the impact
Speaker 2: of that experience. And that was definitely one of my
Speaker 2: more bizarre ones. And I didn't see anything. Might I
Speaker 2: add it was only sound, But still.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that that reminds me of just some of
Speaker 1: the trickster aspects I've heard from some of these entities.
Speaker 1: It's like, not necessarily nefarious, but it seems that they
Speaker 1: try and playful, but to get you to start thinking
Speaker 1: in a certain way or a different way. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of the story I had doctor Gregory litl On,
Speaker 1: and I think I've told this a couple of times,
Speaker 1: but he was interviewing a Native American gentleman for his
Speaker 1: new book, and he said, these little blue things would
Speaker 1: come out of the walls and tickle him and mess
Speaker 1: with him, and he hated him at first, but when
Speaker 1: he accepted him and just you know, trying to gave in,
Speaker 1: they give him profound cosmic knowledge and knowledge of himself.
Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful experience after that. And that
Speaker 1: seems to be kind of on par with some of
Speaker 1: these people who claim to be getting information from somewhere
Speaker 1: else or other entities. Maybe these things are messing with
Speaker 1: him and giving them, you know, bs to start with,
Speaker 1: and is not until they kind of reach a certain
Speaker 1: point or certain realization that they'll start giving them the
Speaker 1: truth about things. It's a kind of maybe tricksterious, but
Speaker 1: growth type of experience for these people. What do you
Speaker 1: think about that one?
Speaker 2: That's been my experience one hundred percent. I agree with
Speaker 2: you wholeheartedly, and I kind of have the suspicion, well
Speaker 2: not kind of really. I actually fully leave this. I'm
Speaker 2: not even going to hold back our front. I believe
Speaker 2: that these beings, at least the ones that I have
Speaker 2: observed and interacted with. I can't speak for other people's
Speaker 2: experiences whom I have not met, but the ones that
Speaker 2: I've interacted with or what have you, it seems to
Speaker 2: be that when they interact with people, they take you
Speaker 2: on some sort of very gradual initiatory journey where at
Speaker 2: every level when you're seeing them, it's divine timing. It's
Speaker 2: right when you need it. It's not always just random.
Speaker 2: It's actually never random in my experience, when people come
Speaker 2: to our property to see something. It was something they
Speaker 2: needed and they leave typically transformed on a spiritual level.
Speaker 2: And I do believe that these beings of light are
Speaker 2: showing up in mass around the world. I mean, the
Speaker 2: videos are all over the Internet. People are seeing orbs
Speaker 2: and beings of light and what have you. And I
Speaker 2: fully believe that they are highly, if not highest advanced
Speaker 2: forms of consciousness that are coming to take the human
Speaker 2: race on an individual on an individual to individual basis,
Speaker 2: form of initiatory journey to higher levels of awareness of
Speaker 2: consciousness and what have you. It's it's a very spiritual
Speaker 2: individual journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one hundred percent. Now I want to
Speaker 1: get back to the deception here and those behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that don't want to us to figure out that
Speaker 1: it's a spiritual phenomenon. It's for our consciousness evolution. Uh,
Speaker 1: could you tell us a little bit about your experiences
Speaker 1: with some of these three letter agencies. I know that
Speaker 1: you've had varying types, some not so bad and and
Speaker 1: some really awful. But what are some of the most
Speaker 1: profound ones that the audience really should know about how
Speaker 1: these guys operate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so exactly like you said, some of them have
Speaker 2: not been so bad like, for example, very kind individual.
Speaker 2: He's been nothing but nice and endearing to my family.
Speaker 2: And he's probably someone that your audience may recognize if
Speaker 2: there are any ufohad or read up on the sub whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Not to say that I endorse any of this material,
Speaker 2: but you know, speaking of which, his name is Jim Simmivan.
Speaker 2: He is the how can I say this? He he's
Speaker 2: the I believe he's the vice president of To the
Speaker 2: Stars Academy, very high level CIA officer, very nice guy.
Speaker 2: As I've said, he's been very kind to my family.
Speaker 2: I got one percent know everything he's about behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: and I can't speak to you know, endorse or deny
Speaker 2: or anything of that nature. But what I can say
Speaker 2: is he he's been a very extraordinarily kind man to
Speaker 2: my family. Very powerful individual. Ran the spy program for
Speaker 2: the United States Central Intelligence Agency. And that's just one
Speaker 2: example of meeting some people where you know, every time
Speaker 2: you speak, it's just nothing but kindness and niceness, and
Speaker 2: you know, cendia gifts and who knows, maybe that's on
Speaker 2: purpose to get us to trust him. I honestly don't
Speaker 2: know at this point. You know, it doesn't help me
Speaker 2: to speculate so much anymore. And then there are others
Speaker 2: who I've met who I will very carefully say associated
Speaker 2: with the C or I should say, associated with the
Speaker 2: d i A. And they have quite literally levied death
Speaker 2: threats on my family just for being ourselves and tru
Speaker 2: tell our story in any sort of public capacity. Naturally,
Speaker 2: what did that do? That fired me up? That maybe
Speaker 2: mad as hell here I am. I'm telling you harder
Speaker 2: than ever before. I don't like being told what to do,
Speaker 2: especially if by anybody who doesn't have my best interest
Speaker 2: at heart. And there were let's see, there there have
Speaker 2: been lots of NASA people come to our house, lots
Speaker 2: of lots of CIA, like a handful of them. At
Speaker 2: least half a dozen have been over to our property
Speaker 2: personally interacted with DARPA, NSA, Homeland Security, Army Intelligence, obviously
Speaker 2: Central intelligence. I've already said that one, Navy intelligence, Air
Speaker 2: Force intelligence, pretty much met all of them. And it's
Speaker 2: a mix, It's a very mixed bag. Some of them
Speaker 2: are not kind. I would even wager to say some
Speaker 2: of them have been assholes and have not had am
Speaker 2: I allowed to curse on the show, by the way,
Speaker 2: of course, Yeah, Okay, great, great, Yeah, some of them
Speaker 2: have been quite literally like assholes to my family and
Speaker 2: have not had our best interests in heart. And then
Speaker 2: some of them, as I've said, have been really kind.
Speaker 2: So I could go into any one or the other
Speaker 2: more and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like I'd like to hear about some of
Speaker 1: the some of the bad ones, and then some of
Speaker 1: the good ones. Let's just the ones that really stick out,
Speaker 1: maybe an example or two of.
Speaker 2: Each, Okay, And for the sake of what I'm discussing here,
Speaker 2: I'd rather not say names because that that's just not
Speaker 2: very you know, that's that's it's not very safe territory.
Speaker 2: But again, I would very carefully say an individual who
Speaker 2: was associated with the CIA, meaning he was a civilian
Speaker 2: sent by an active high ranking CIA officer. Because here's
Speaker 2: the kicker. According to the government's website, according to the
Speaker 2: United States of American Policy, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: all is about Department of Defense and how they operate
Speaker 2: foreign and domestic technically, if you believe in these stupid lies,
Speaker 2: the CIA does not operate on US soil. I already
Speaker 2: know that's a croc of shit. They tell me. Some
Speaker 2: of the hits that they've done on American soil. But anyway, technically,
Speaker 2: according to the law, they're not supposed to operate on
Speaker 2: US soil. They're supposed to be domestic, I mean foreign.
Speaker 2: The FBI is supposed to be domestic. But I know
Speaker 2: that's not the case, and they have lots of ways
Speaker 2: to get around that and harass and terrify and I
Speaker 2: haven't observed this, but maybe in some cases harm inn
Speaker 2: as an American citizens. Anyway, So this gentleman was sent
Speaker 2: to my property by a CIA officer who my father
Speaker 2: did speak on the phone with. He was who he
Speaker 2: said he was. We checked up on him with other
Speaker 2: CIA agents. Very real guy. He sent this civilian to
Speaker 2: our property to get through that little loophole about the
Speaker 2: whole domestic versus foreign thing. And this guy came to
Speaker 2: our property, he harassed my dad. He's stuck around for
Speaker 2: five or six days. He just wouldn't leave, no matter
Speaker 2: how kindly my dad told him he needed him to leave.
Speaker 2: He'd get a hotel down the street and he'd come back.
Speaker 2: And my dad is such a nice guy. He's not
Speaker 2: just going to physically throw off, you know, anybody off
Speaker 2: of his property unless they've gone way too far. And
Speaker 2: this guy, over the course of these days started saying
Speaker 2: some really out of character things about his CIA contact
Speaker 2: and even called him and put him on the phone
Speaker 2: on a three way call one time and introduced him
Speaker 2: and things like that. So he really was who he
Speaker 2: said he was. And not to mention, this guy had
Speaker 2: a family history of extremely powerful political figures in his
Speaker 2: family tree. I'm trying to be vague so that this
Speaker 2: individual's identity can't be discovered, but he had very powerful
Speaker 2: Washington d c. Type family members, So it was it
Speaker 2: was just no coincident or coincidence or accident that he
Speaker 2: was connected to the Central Intelligence Agency, if you catch
Speaker 2: my drift. He was a very connected figure. And he
Speaker 2: straight up told my dad at one point after this
Speaker 2: five or six day period that he could put a
Speaker 2: bullet my mother and my brother's head if he if
Speaker 2: my father didn't tell his story and his experiences the
Speaker 2: way that this dark group I wanted my father too.
Speaker 2: And at that point, I kid you not, inn Orb
Speaker 2: appeared behind him, scared the shit out of him. He
Speaker 2: went away and he never came back, in true cowardly fashion.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and it's crazy, that's the funniest part. It's
Speaker 2: like ever since then, they haven't been quite as a
Speaker 2: crazy on threats. I think they know that if they
Speaker 2: fuck with us, that something will fuck with them, just
Speaker 2: like it does a skin ranch. But anyway, yeah, so
Speaker 2: he called me on the phone. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: his intentions were at first. And naturally, when you were
Speaker 2: a young twenty something year old kid at the time,
Speaker 2: because this was, you know, probably five years ago. When
Speaker 2: you're like a young twenty something year old kid, you
Speaker 2: always want to meet meet the CIA guy. You always
Speaker 2: want to talk to the NASA guys. I don't think
Speaker 2: so anymore. It's it's not as cool anymore, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, because in my experiences, he talks to
Speaker 2: me on the phone and he literally tells me that
Speaker 2: he's a builder Burger and that basically he believes that
Speaker 2: God and Satan are one being, and that he and
Speaker 2: his friends are his little shadow organ his in the
Speaker 2: CIA are actuallying. He told me this verbatim, he said,
Speaker 2: and in this terminology he said that his group is
Speaker 2: trying to usher in the new World Order to bring
Speaker 2: a new age for humanity, and that God and Satan
Speaker 2: are one entity, and that all the catastrophes that have
Speaker 2: been caused around the world, such as nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: the vague. These were his words. Mind you, these specific
Speaker 2: incidents too, He referenced them. He said, nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, the Vegas shooting back in twenty fifteen
Speaker 2: or sixty. You recall he said that those events were
Speaker 2: done by their demonic god in order to whip us
Speaker 2: into shape with tough love that we just don't understand.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of shit that some of these fringe
Speaker 2: groups in the CIA believe and are operating on. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's just crazy stuff. And some of them have
Speaker 2: been incredibly kind, and they act all big about how
Speaker 2: they believe in God and Jesus, and it's just like,
Speaker 2: you never know, there's some really strange fringed in these
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies.
Speaker 1: They're definitely that would kind of solidifie my thought and
Speaker 1: theory that there's not just a pyramid structure we're looking
Speaker 1: at that there's different factions kind of yeah, fighting for
Speaker 1: control over in slavery, over humanity. I just show with
Speaker 1: Charlie Robinson the other day. We're going to get too
Speaker 1: deep into that, but we would The title of the
Speaker 1: show was the Fourth Right versus the Babylonian Death Cult.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's so clever.
Speaker 1: Well, it looks at, you know, two different sides of
Speaker 1: these control systems that are trying to fight for humanity basically,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're looking at. I think on the
Speaker 1: deepest level, is this really kind of what you say,
Speaker 1: far right extremist type of uh faction that's trying to
Speaker 1: get you know, the slavery and control and then another
Speaker 1: far left extremest faction that's like sacrificing babies and Nicolet
Speaker 1: magic and it's you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Right, be clever, Chris, I love that. I'm going to
Speaker 2: run with that, man, I'll be sure to reference you.
Speaker 2: But that's that's genius. The Fourth Reich versus the Babylonian
Speaker 2: Death Cult. That's an epic. But yeah, no, I totally
Speaker 2: agree with you. And it's it's just wild. Like I
Speaker 2: know this for a fact as well, because I've been
Speaker 2: told this directly by people in the CIA. They are
Speaker 2: deeply immersed in the lore and the literature of the
Speaker 2: mystical occult bodies of knowledge. I've personally had conversation with
Speaker 2: very high level CIA officers who have actually recommended mystical
Speaker 2: and occult studies to me. So, however you slice it
Speaker 2: or dice it, Uh, they believe it. They know and
Speaker 2: believe that it's all real, the mystical knowledge and what
Speaker 2: have you, and on our show just kind of a
Speaker 2: caveat here on our show, Bledso said, So, I really
Speaker 2: like to relate these deeper mysteries oftentimes to pop culture
Speaker 2: because I feel like for for general demographics and general
Speaker 2: audiences who aren't very well versed in these mysteries and
Speaker 2: in the UFO subject, it's just very approachable. And what
Speaker 2: I would say in that case, if anybody's caught up
Speaker 2: on some of the really cool shows right now, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say any spoilers, but just the name
Speaker 2: of you, Stranger Things and The Boys. Both of them
Speaker 2: are like the hottest shows in the world right now,
Speaker 2: and I'm actually watching both, so they're fresh on my mind.
Speaker 2: And both of them, Okay, light spoiler, light spoiler for
Speaker 2: anyone who's listening, skip forward like twenty seconds. But both
Speaker 2: of these shows, season three, which is the current one
Speaker 2: of The Boys, and season four Stranger Things. Both of
Speaker 2: them have the same premise and it's two factions of
Speaker 2: the government or the corporate oligarchy fighting against each other
Speaker 2: behind the scenes and a shadow structure, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're really laying it all right
Speaker 2: there for us normies to see. So I think he
Speaker 2: nailed it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Now what do you think that they're doing at the
Speaker 1: highest level with the mainstream deception of what we're told
Speaker 1: about UFOs and ETS and what they're trying to portray
Speaker 1: this as and the certain players that they've inserted in here.
Speaker 1: What do you think the end goal is with this?
Speaker 1: Is it just to keep us from understanding it as
Speaker 1: much as possible or do they have more nefarious agendas
Speaker 1: in mind? Possibly?
Speaker 2: I mean I would be lying if I said I
Speaker 2: knew one hundred percent. But my take, my speculation is
Speaker 2: through a mix of personal conversations with some of these
Speaker 2: individuals and just research online and what have you. I
Speaker 2: know this for a fact. This has been told to me.
Speaker 2: There are members of the CIA and American intelligence agencies
Speaker 2: such as Naval Intelligence, Air Force Intelligence, and Army intelligence
Speaker 2: again as well as NASA and CIA and DARPA who
Speaker 2: are actively engaged in studying practical applications of occult ceremonial
Speaker 2: magic psychic perception, energy healing techniques, and combative energy techniques
Speaker 2: such as ancient Tibetan death touch or excuse me, Chinese
Speaker 2: chigung death touch techniques, which they have successfully done. That's
Speaker 2: the secret behind the men who steric goats. That's actually
Speaker 2: really how they killed it was chigung den mock, which
Speaker 2: is an energy technique rents for deadly energy into your
Speaker 2: fingers and disperse it through the body of the subjective
Speaker 2: what have you. And I was told that they were
Speaker 2: developing this for world type situations, you know, overseed, you know,
Speaker 2: black ops type research. But anyway, what I'm getting at is,
Speaker 2: I know without a doubt these people and these agencies
Speaker 2: are studying ritual oculd magic. I know they believe it.
Speaker 2: They've told me. And my point from this is I
Speaker 2: believe at the highest levels they are practicing these things
Speaker 2: using these applicants because they're desperately trying to reach out
Speaker 2: beyond the veil and communicate with with entities or what
Speaker 2: have you. And if they have I would certainly probably
Speaker 2: say that they've been dark entities, not the good ones
Speaker 2: for sure, because they've told us that they've told us,
Speaker 2: not that they've communicated with dark entities. That part is
Speaker 2: my speculation. But they've told us that they can't communicate
Speaker 2: with these positive entities. They don't want anything to do
Speaker 2: with them. That's why they've been the government, that's why
Speaker 2: they've been coming to my parents' property all these years,
Speaker 2: because they're dying on what the fuck these beings want
Speaker 2: for humanity.
Speaker 1: Wow, man, So you have never had a negative experience
Speaker 1: or a dark entity experience? Correct?
Speaker 2: I have once. I saw a shadow entity move across
Speaker 2: a wall at a time in my life where things
Speaker 2: around my family and my property were extremely dark, extremely chaotic,
Speaker 2: extremely negative. I did see one shadow type figure move
Speaker 2: across the wall, but since then I have not had
Speaker 2: any I've not had any negative, dark, or any sort
Speaker 2: of scary experiences of that kind.
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Speaker 1: order over twenty dollars. No, that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense that they would be trying to horness whatever type
Speaker 1: of entities or energy that these beings have. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at everything that they've done in places like skin
Speaker 1: Walker Ranch. I mean, normal people can't even get in
Speaker 1: a certain distance near a certain distance of that place.
Speaker 1: And of course they've you know, glamorized what they're doing
Speaker 1: with the History Channel and all that stuff, so we
Speaker 1: have really no idea. They show a bunch of probably
Speaker 1: government drones in the sky in every episode and call it,
Speaker 1: you know, Skinwalker Ranch's kooky. You know, but I think
Speaker 1: that most of what we're seeing in the skies is
Speaker 1: probably our own stuff. Now, I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. If it's not, it seems to have
Speaker 1: some kind of intelligence or personal interaction like we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. But most of these kind of high tech,
Speaker 1: very machine physical like type of craft that they've been
Speaker 1: showing us, like triangles and the tic.
Speaker 2: TACs cigars, these appear to be, you know, very physical,
Speaker 2: and I would put my money that we've had those
Speaker 2: for a long time. I tend to agree with you, man.
Speaker 2: I think if there's anything out there like that, it
Speaker 2: probably is our government just fucking with the people, because
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna go out on a limb here
Speaker 2: and tell something really personal, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2: And I would once again, I would urge people to
Speaker 2: brush up on a little bit of the background of
Speaker 2: the Bloods of story so they're not in over their
Speaker 2: head in deep waters with this one. But when the
Speaker 2: entities took my dad the second time, this encounter with
Speaker 2: this female lady right here, what she told my dad
Speaker 2: is that there is a dark group at the top
Speaker 2: of humanity. She did not give a specific name. She
Speaker 2: just said there is a dark group in power who
Speaker 2: is using Biblical scripture to reenact the prophecies on a globe,
Speaker 2: like the end time prophecies on a global scale, to
Speaker 2: force humanity into some sort of end time crisis. And
Speaker 2: part of this agenda is a great deception, and this
Speaker 2: deception will be tricking humanity into believing it there is
Speaker 2: no God, there is no higher consciousness, there is no spirit,
Speaker 2: in its aliens. It's physical monster evil aliens. That's the
Speaker 2: ultimate deception. So running on this assumption. When the Shiny
Speaker 2: Lady he spoke to my dad and told him this shit,
Speaker 2: I took it pretty serious. I tend to believe these
Speaker 2: mystical type, profound experiences more than I believe are our
Speaker 2: are one percent. You know, media moguls who are telling
Speaker 2: us what we should believe. I mean, we already know
Speaker 2: their liars. So I mean I go by that I
Speaker 2: really do believe what this entity said, don't. I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily think there is any threat whatsoever, any possibility of
Speaker 2: a threat from any sort of physical alien monsters. I
Speaker 2: think it's entirely made up. I think not to say
Speaker 2: not to say there can't be any sort of physical entity.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying. I couldn't know that. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I know that they're lying about some sort of negative
Speaker 2: spin on this phenomenon to try and trick people into
Speaker 2: being terrified of it.
Speaker 1: Yep, I think you're spot on. Now, let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about your understanding of what the nature of
Speaker 1: reality is, what we're doing here, How are just when
Speaker 1: I'm not interact with our consciousness you mentioned earlier that
Speaker 1: you know, you're not even sure these things are coming
Speaker 1: from space. I'm not either.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The space thing is a whole other show, you know.
Speaker 2: It's I did a whole show on that topic. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done those two and it's a very divisive
Speaker 1: fun people. Yeah, it gets people worked up for some reason,
Speaker 1: but it does. Yeah. You know, whatever we're on, whether
Speaker 1: you know we're on a planet or flat plane or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to think it is, I think that
Speaker 1: this is much more special and different place than we
Speaker 1: could ever imagine. You know. My idea lately, and it's
Speaker 1: just you know, one of my many theories that pop
Speaker 1: into my head and you know, could change tomorrow or
Speaker 1: even in the next few minutes, is that this is,
Speaker 1: this whole reality is something that we may have even
Speaker 1: put here for ourselves for consciousness growth and experience, and
Speaker 1: and that you know, these strange entities and things like
Speaker 1: that that are part of our own programming that might
Speaker 1: pop in every once in a while to get us
Speaker 1: on the right track. I don't know. I'd like to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on what is what is surrounding us
Speaker 1: at all times? What is this that we call reality,
Speaker 1: but we know is no way physical when you get
Speaker 1: down to the micro level, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, you said it extremely well, but I'll just
Speaker 2: kind of like give my personal takes on that and
Speaker 2: kind of enhance what you were what you were saying.
Speaker 2: But I believe that we as divine conscious beings. And
Speaker 2: I say that, I really believe that that anybody was
Speaker 2: born into this world, any any sort of living being
Speaker 2: with a heartbeat and a brain and a spinal element
Speaker 2: of breath, that that that animates whatever being this is,
Speaker 2: is divine and has a spark of the divine or
Speaker 2: or I would say the godhood or the source, or
Speaker 2: whatever terminology people want to use. They always get so
Speaker 2: mad if you use the wrong terminology. The old ultimate
Speaker 2: source of reality is this eternal consciousness that is completely
Speaker 2: imbalance and in harmony with all life, all things, everywhere,
Speaker 2: space time. It's above anything that we can comprehend or conceive.
Speaker 2: The Egyptians have been talking about this for thousands of years,
Speaker 2: and these secret mystery schools, and this has passed through
Speaker 2: the ages secretly. Of course, up until recent times it
Speaker 2: wasn't so mainstream knowledge passed through the Greeks, the Persians,
Speaker 2: the Indians, even the Jewish schools like the Essenes and
Speaker 2: Kabbalah and things of this nature. This knowledge has always
Speaker 2: been around that we are co creating a I guess
Speaker 2: you could say, an illusory reality together that we come
Speaker 2: here to experience so that we can evolve on a
Speaker 2: soul level, so that we can return home to the
Speaker 2: highest reality, which is the source of all living things.
Speaker 2: And you can call it God, you can call it
Speaker 2: whatever you want. I don't like people to get too
Speaker 2: caught up in that. I do believe that because we
Speaker 2: are small, fractal pieces of this eternal oneness, this eternal
Speaker 2: source of consciousness. Because of that, our thoughts, our words,
Speaker 2: and our deeds truly matter. Because if you think a
Speaker 2: thought in your mind, you have no clue where that
Speaker 2: thought truly came from. It might be you might be
Speaker 2: having a bad day. You might be in a really
Speaker 2: negative vibration because of the energy going on around you.
Speaker 2: Someone's looking at you funny, cursing you, fuck you dude,
Speaker 2: and you're feeling bad and you're getting pulled down by
Speaker 2: these negative vibrations, and you might start having some hateful
Speaker 2: thoughts come in. You should enact those on those thoughts
Speaker 2: because you're giving birth to them in this reality, and
Speaker 2: those vibrations will harm someone else's spirit. And it's the
Speaker 2: same goes the other way. You know, if you're having
Speaker 2: a really good day, you're doing everything right. You've you've meditated,
Speaker 2: you've prayed, you've you've eaten good, maybe fasted, maybe exercise,
Speaker 2: whatever you've done that's made you feel whole and complete
Speaker 2: and healthy and happy. You might be vibrating at such
Speaker 2: a level that some really profound thoughts come from another place,
Speaker 2: and you know, you speak these really loving, positive thoughts,
Speaker 2: you might just change somebody's entire life and you had
Speaker 2: no clue that that person was struggling or going through
Speaker 2: something and needed some encouragement from someone else. So I
Speaker 2: think our thoughts and our words and our deeds truly
Speaker 2: matter in this realm because they come from another place.
Speaker 2: We're just the channels.
Speaker 1: Well, man, I love it. I love it. What do
Speaker 1: you think about timelines and the possibility that not only
Speaker 1: were we on multiple different timelines at one given moment,
Speaker 1: but you can kind of experience this and think about
Speaker 1: it in a way that people in you know, a
Speaker 1: different country, say, people in this far off in the
Speaker 1: Bavarian forest, and they don't have TVs. And then nine
Speaker 1: to eleven happens, and these people don't have any media TVs.
Speaker 1: They're out in the middle of nowhere and they live
Speaker 1: in their own sustainable community and they never hear about it.
Speaker 1: Is that really a part of their reality? Did that
Speaker 1: really happen for them? Or does it really It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, does if a tree falls in the forest,
Speaker 1: you know, and we do have you know, biological life
Speaker 1: and trees and particles to witness these events, But does
Speaker 1: it spread that far? And do people experience that set
Speaker 1: kind of separation of reality into these types of different timelines.
Speaker 1: It seems like many people are on different timelines in
Speaker 1: our own reality that we cross over into. I consider
Speaker 1: going to the grocery store crossing over into a different
Speaker 1: timeline because it's not my desired reality. Especially have to
Speaker 1: if I have to go to a place like Walmart,
Speaker 1: that's like preparing to go to a different mention. Man,
Speaker 1: I got like gear up, say a prayer, and like
Speaker 1: I don't want to go here. So like every you know,
Speaker 1: even travel. But it seems with especially everything that's been
Speaker 1: going on since twenty twenty and people's awakening and realizations
Speaker 1: that these timelines have kind of split off even more.
Speaker 1: There's this major fear timeline where people are just going
Speaker 1: with the narratives and pinking down into oblivily oblivion, and
Speaker 1: then the timeline where people aren't paying attention and kind
Speaker 1: of flourishing and getting better in their lives. So it's
Speaker 1: very interesting to see all the things that are occurring
Speaker 1: right now, which brings me to your thoughts on that
Speaker 1: this whole strange times we're in, the awakening sit you
Speaker 1: were in and all of that's that's kind of unfolding before.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could say it any be better
Speaker 2: than that. It kind of just blew my mind. I
Speaker 2: never thought about it in that sense seriously, Like that's
Speaker 2: pretty profound. What if was some tribe out there somewhere
Speaker 2: in the forest and they never heard any sort of
Speaker 2: news of nine to eleven. I mean, you know, I've
Speaker 2: never thought about that kind of concept before. But you're
Speaker 2: probably right. It probably had nothing to do with their
Speaker 2: consensus reality that they're strained. They may be completely unaffected.
Speaker 2: I think that the totality of consciousness of this human
Speaker 2: race is intimately connected, and I think there could be
Speaker 2: some variations about how connected we are to certain events
Speaker 2: that have psychic impact on our collective consciousness. And I
Speaker 2: would say, maybe in some way their effect through the
Speaker 2: grapevine of this, you know, you could think of you
Speaker 2: could imagine our collective consciousness like a spiritual entity that
Speaker 2: sort of has a mind of its own. And when
Speaker 2: negativity is spread through this life that we all share together,
Speaker 2: this consensus reality, you know what I mean, it has
Speaker 2: an effect on each and every one of us, like
Speaker 2: this COVID shit. I have no doubt in my mind
Speaker 2: that this was perpetrated on humanity so that we would
Speaker 2: all suffer and live in fear and chaos and darkness.
Speaker 2: And nobody can tell me that what I'm about to
Speaker 2: say is wrong. In the last two years, we have
Speaker 2: entered a new life, a totally new timeline. Virtually everybody
Speaker 2: I know my age works either from home the whole
Speaker 2: week or home half the week. Before twenty twenty, I
Speaker 2: had never heard of that, other than some technical sales job,
Speaker 2: you know, some it kind of thing. I had never
Speaker 2: heard of anybody working from home. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: everyone does. It's like this whole world just flipped upside
Speaker 2: down and we're in a new timeline together, and I
Speaker 2: think you're absolutely right. The negative events that they perpetrate
Speaker 2: on humanity like nine to eleven and the Vegas shootings
Speaker 2: and all these terrible tragedies and massacres, I think they
Speaker 2: do that to shape collective route reality or consensus reality whatever,
Speaker 2: to shift towards the negative, whole fearful timeline. And that's
Speaker 2: why I urge people, and I plead with people to
Speaker 2: turn off the fucking news and be very cautious what
Speaker 2: they consume into their soul. Because if you're just gonna
Speaker 2: listen to the mainstream media talking heads sit there and
Speaker 2: tell you you should be afraid of everybody around every
Speaker 2: corner and every every doorstep is holding some terrible person
Speaker 2: who wants to is just out to get you. I'm
Speaker 2: exaggerating a little bit, but you know, we all know
Speaker 2: the news. We know the news is fearful. So I
Speaker 2: agree with you one hundred percent that they are fucking
Speaker 2: with our reality with all these terrible catastrophes. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I couldn't say it better than you, honest.
Speaker 1: Well, with the timelines, there's there's I think we have
Speaker 1: plenty of options on where we can go collectively into
Speaker 1: the future. There's also plenty of options and agendas of
Speaker 1: where they want us to go in the future. I believe,
Speaker 1: like we were talking two or maybe more factions that
Speaker 1: battle control for control over humanity, they have a lot
Speaker 1: of power, and like you're saying they have, they do
Speaker 1: these large events to steer people in a certain direction.
Speaker 1: That they have plenty of options that you know some
Speaker 1: some think some want us to go to the transhuman
Speaker 1: route to where we plug ourselves into machinery and just
Speaker 1: live our lives there. It does not seem that we
Speaker 1: would get there because we have this looming kind of
Speaker 1: economic crash and everything that is coming up in the
Speaker 1: future to where it looks like society is going to
Speaker 1: go through very troubling times. I'm not sure they're going
Speaker 1: to get their transhumantopia where we merge with technology. With
Speaker 1: this situation continues to go the way it is food chorges.
Speaker 1: It seems like one side may be gaining a little
Speaker 1: ground with their depopulation agendas.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So we've got all these types of awful timelines and
Speaker 1: in places we can go. But I think collectively as
Speaker 1: if we can wake up and realize this and shift
Speaker 1: some of those timelines over we could have better options
Speaker 1: on which reality we want to participate in. What do
Speaker 1: you think about these different timelines? Do you do you
Speaker 1: see it the same way? And do you think are
Speaker 1: you hopeful for the future?
Speaker 2: I am. I have full faith we will eventually arrive
Speaker 2: in a positive future. And I say that because again,
Speaker 2: this this this female entity. Uh, when my dad spoke
Speaker 2: with her, she said a lot of things. One of
Speaker 2: the things that she said that was the most important
Speaker 2: to remember is that the whole point of this, the
Speaker 2: whole point of the UFO phenomenon appearing before the eyes
Speaker 2: of civilians and innocent people like ourselves and every other
Speaker 2: normal Joe out there who's not some government employee. Why
Speaker 2: would they do that? You know, you would think if
Speaker 2: it was aliens, if it was some sort of militaristic society,
Speaker 2: they would they would definitely not be accidentally revealing themselves
Speaker 2: to ordinary people like us. If they were smarter than
Speaker 2: we are, if they had this sophisticated technology, even if
Speaker 2: they had psychic perception of all physical beings or whatever,
Speaker 2: they better than to just be accidentally showing themselves to
Speaker 2: ordinary people. And anyway, I kind of got off track there.
Speaker 2: What the lady told my dad is that we are
Speaker 2: going towards the age of Aquarius. And that's the whole
Speaker 2: point of why these beings are coming in the first place,
Speaker 2: is to guide us to this Aquarium age of peace
Speaker 2: and love and harmony. It's all about understanding that there
Speaker 2: is a higher consciousness, there is a divinity, there is
Speaker 2: a God. I don't care how people call it. I
Speaker 2: don't care what name they want to use. That doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to me. What matters to me is the total
Speaker 2: confidence that there is a positive higher power who is trying,
Speaker 2: or is actually not just trying, but doing this guiding
Speaker 2: humanity throughout the ages. But there are certain rules in
Speaker 2: this reality. If these beings were to regularly manifest, this
Speaker 2: reality would probably fall apart. I don't think that this, this
Speaker 2: little three D world that we live in could fully
Speaker 2: and openly contain these beings of light. I just don't
Speaker 2: think it's possible. I don't think it's written into the program.
Speaker 2: So they show up in these little fashes whenever they
Speaker 2: can get away with it and kind of hack the system,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, kind of like from the
Speaker 2: Matrix when Neo and Morpheus hop in and fuck with
Speaker 2: the system, and then the agents get on them, and
Speaker 2: you know the government's trying to play damage control and
Speaker 2: convince everybody they're scary and they're evil, just like Neo
Speaker 2: and Morpheus were terrorists in the Matrix. He catch my
Speaker 2: grip or my drift? Yeah right, yeah, I just that's
Speaker 2: that's kind of how I see things, that there is
Speaker 2: a positive future, and that's the message the government, the
Speaker 2: one percent, the media, whatever. They don't want anybody to
Speaker 2: have any sort of hope or positivity on the horizon.
Speaker 2: They want it always to be chaos and fear and
Speaker 2: running around with the chickens with their heads cut off.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, there's a illusion or perception that only
Speaker 1: one side is is right a horse, but not only that,
Speaker 1: we're only going to see one side's idea, one side's agendas,
Speaker 1: and anything else that goes against the green is going
Speaker 1: to be shunned and considered a thread or terrorist. But
Speaker 1: right now it's hard to tell who and how many
Speaker 1: people are on the right side of history, and you
Speaker 1: won't ever see it coming out of the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: And the only way to do it is doing things
Speaker 1: like we're doing, talking to people who talk to a
Speaker 1: lot of other people, and it's hard to you know,
Speaker 1: that's the only way to get an idea of how
Speaker 1: many people or towards the light are going or awakening,
Speaker 1: are understanding some of the things that are happening and
Speaker 1: what's behind it and going towards the right side of history.
Speaker 1: And I have to think that most people are. And
Speaker 1: we're not being shown because of course, just like I said,
Speaker 1: we're only being shown one side of the narrative, one
Speaker 1: shot side of the story from Hollywood and the media
Speaker 1: and everything else. But if you turn off your tea
Speaker 1: and walk down your street and talk to your neighbors
Speaker 1: and talk to people like we're doing across the planet,
Speaker 1: and those people talk to a lot of other people,
Speaker 1: it seems that everyone I'm talking to is pretty reasonably
Speaker 1: smart and doesn't fall for some of the bullshit that
Speaker 1: we're going through. I don't know about you, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that?
Speaker 2: Again? I absolutely agree with you, man. I think you're
Speaker 2: right on the money tonight. You know, at least the
Speaker 2: people I know used to be years ago, I couldn't
Speaker 2: really talk openly even with some of my friends about
Speaker 2: this stuff because it was too fringe or it was
Speaker 2: too not what the mainstream media talking heads were pushing out,
Speaker 2: and like especially some of my friends were all just
Speaker 2: like whatever political bullshit was on TV, it was what
Speaker 2: they were parroting. And I'm not talking like you know,
Speaker 2: people that I talk with every day. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: acquaintance as I bumped into and things like that. I
Speaker 2: know people in my life and I've observed these people
Speaker 2: in the last few years. There's so much more open mind,
Speaker 2: there's so much more curious about alternative media. And they
Speaker 2: all see the podcast people I know, they're all like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this shit is cool. Like, you know, I
Speaker 2: used to think you guys were weird for talking about aliens,
Speaker 2: but after listening to your show, like, I feel so
Speaker 2: sorry I ever judged that kind of vibe, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think that people are one hundred percent becoming
Speaker 2: more open minded. I think you're absolutely correct. But I
Speaker 2: think the reason is why is because yet again, we
Speaker 2: are shifting into the age of Aquarius, and I think
Speaker 2: that spiritually, uh, that is affecting the resonance of our
Speaker 2: collective consciousness and slowly on an individual level. But they're
Speaker 2: seven billion individuals, so it's going to happen like a
Speaker 2: tidal wave. As the years go on. On an individual basis,
Speaker 2: consciousness is unfolding to understand and receive higher concepts. And
Speaker 2: I really think around the world people are slowly but
Speaker 2: surely opening their minds and it can't be stopped. And again,
Speaker 2: that's why they keep pumping out the fear because they
Speaker 2: know these ancient prophecies about the next age. They know
Speaker 2: that the little old dinky redneck Bloedsoe Fan down at Fayette,
Speaker 2: North Carolina, speaking with entities that the CIA is constantly
Speaker 2: monitoring and trying to track them down and figure out
Speaker 2: what the fuck's going on. And they made my father
Speaker 2: write this stuff to the Pentagon and took it and
Speaker 2: even briefed the President on it. They know that these
Speaker 2: entities communicated to my father that the Age of Aquarius
Speaker 2: is coming. They know all this, They're scared of all this.
Speaker 2: They tell us, you know, so.
Speaker 1: I think that they tell us a lot more than
Speaker 1: people would realize. I think they've been telling us through
Speaker 1: Hollywood and the movies. They've made everything that is really happening,
Speaker 1: you know, I say it all the time. Is the
Speaker 1: hero's journey, Like Star Wars, a small group of people
Speaker 1: are under the control of the evil galactive empire. They
Speaker 1: rise up, they fight against it, and then they have
Speaker 1: a utopian society. But they have to go through all
Speaker 1: these trials and tribulation and self realizations until they get there.
Speaker 1: And that's always these heroes in these Hollywood and that's
Speaker 1: just us. That's the normal people that are having this
Speaker 1: spiritual journey right now. And the enemy. Why is the
Speaker 1: enemy always like this totalitarian government? Well, because it is.
Speaker 1: That's what the enemy is. Guys. They're showing you the
Speaker 1: truth and they have been for a while. Although Hollywood,
Speaker 1: a lot of the crap they're putting out now it
Speaker 1: hasn't even been even as close to entertaining as even
Speaker 1: if it was propaganda, you know, at least it used
Speaker 1: to be entertaining. But that again is a whole other show. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the afterlife and
Speaker 1: do we come back? Are we reincarnated? Do we have
Speaker 1: soul contracts? Do we agree to come here? Or is this,
Speaker 1: like we were talking earlier, some kind of you know,
Speaker 1: our own type of simulation or something else. What do
Speaker 1: you think about the afterlife and are we coming back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So here's here's my nuanced take on that. I'm
Speaker 2: very fascinated by the concept of soul contracts, but I
Speaker 2: just don't know much about that. Admittedly, however, I do
Speaker 2: want hunt undred one thousand million percent. I will die
Speaker 2: on this hill. I believe in reincarnation. I in my experience,
Speaker 2: I have experienced evidence enough to prove to me that
Speaker 2: it is true. The entities told my father that when
Speaker 2: we die, our life is truly eternal, and that when
Speaker 2: we die, we go to the eternal realm where these
Speaker 2: light spirits, these orbs, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 2: where they live, where they reside. That when we die,
Speaker 2: our sir goes into these orbs that you see on
Speaker 2: these photographs. You know, my dad is world famous for
Speaker 2: taking orbs. There's thousands of ORB photos all over the internet.
Speaker 2: But if anybody wants to some crazy authentic ORB pros,
Speaker 2: follow my dad on Instagram. I can plug that at
Speaker 2: the end if you want to do any plugs. But anyway,
Speaker 2: he gets thousands of ORB photos. And what these entities
Speaker 2: said is when you die, your spirit goes into one
Speaker 2: of these orbs and you cross onto the eternal realm. Now,
Speaker 2: when and where the reincarnation process happens, I don't know
Speaker 2: they didn't say that specifically, but they did say that
Speaker 2: this life is the orny of the soul when it
Speaker 2: comes here to learn lessons and move on to a
Speaker 2: higher place. I don't believe in permanent death. I believe that,
Speaker 2: you know, life in all forms truly is eternal, because
Speaker 2: you can't kill God if we have that spark of God,
Speaker 2: if we had that spark of divine consciousness inside of us.
Speaker 2: That's really arrogant to think that we could kill a
Speaker 2: peace of God. I think that's really stupid and arrogant.
Speaker 1: Right on now, as far as our immediate future, it
Speaker 1: does seem that we are headed towards some dark times.
Speaker 1: But just like you said, even in all the ancient prophecies,
Speaker 1: and even look at things like black projects, like Looking
Speaker 1: Project looking Glass, where they're looking ahead to the future
Speaker 1: and there were always, you know, seven steps ahead that
Speaker 1: they lost. These elitists, these people that were trying to
Speaker 1: achieve their Babylonian death called future, they never made it
Speaker 1: because the light has always won and it always will.
Speaker 1: And I think that's we have to look forward too,
Speaker 1: even though we probably make it through some dark times.
Speaker 1: Trying to extinguish this, I'm very hopeful. We already have
Speaker 1: people setting up their own systems, their own sustainable communities,
Speaker 1: their own businesses. People are entertaining in different ways podcasts,
Speaker 1: doing documentaries, movies, and so we're already starting to set
Speaker 1: up our own kind of cyst for this new utopia.
Speaker 1: It just has to collapse first, and that might hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah, I know I
Speaker 2: keep saying it, but like I just really like your vibe. Man,
Speaker 2: You're really good at what you do, Chris. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean I think that it's just self evident,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's all about spreading fear. It's all
Speaker 2: about spreading fear so that we don't collectively manifest this
Speaker 2: positive reality together. That's just that. That's just all I
Speaker 2: can say. I mean, I can only say it so
Speaker 2: many times, you know, and so many people will listen.
Speaker 2: But the mainstream media, the top one percent, the elite,
Speaker 2: that they are lying so that they could manifest the legality.
Speaker 2: And it's up to us if we want to accept that.
Speaker 2: We don't have to accept that. And I want to
Speaker 2: say back to kind of like how you were weaving interestant, Yes,
Speaker 2: there are really bad things happening in the world. It
Speaker 2: looks very dark, It is very dark, but it is
Speaker 2: always darkest before dawn. And I think the most important
Speaker 2: thing that any one individual soul can do, out of
Speaker 2: the seven billions of souls, if all of us did this,
Speaker 2: it would be great. It'd be utopia. The best thing
Speaker 2: that any and every soul can do is hold on
Speaker 2: to the light and shine the light, shine the hope
Speaker 2: out into the shared world that we're living in and
Speaker 2: perceiving and creating together. Hold on to that hope, hold
Speaker 2: on to that positivity, and project that towards your neighbor.
Speaker 2: And if we all did that, it would snowball and
Speaker 2: we would manifest the new positive reality together.
Speaker 1: Man, I love it. I think that is actually a
Speaker 1: perfect note to close on. Ryan, this was fantastic as usual.
Speaker 1: We're going to have to do this more often, for sure.
Speaker 1: We're absolutely always a pleasure. Before you head out, let
Speaker 1: everyone know where they can find your podcast, social media,
Speaker 1: anything exciting you that going on, whatever you got.
Speaker 2: So I like to keep my plugging concise. Our show
Speaker 2: is called bledsoe you can see it behind me. Not
Speaker 2: sure if the video sometimes zoom reversesm sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 2: if you can read it be led, Sooe said. So
Speaker 2: you can find us on Instagram, Twitter, We even have
Speaker 2: a TikTok where YouTube, and we do have a Patreon
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Speaker 1: Awesome, man, Yes, go check that out. Ryan. This was
Speaker 1: fantastic and we'll definitely do this again soon in the future.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. And I just want to say I
Speaker 2: do apologize for being so hard to track down, but
Speaker 2: I you know, I do have my own show myself,
Speaker 2: so I would I totally love to come back if
Speaker 2: you're willing to have me. I I just always do
Speaker 2: have a blast on your head.
Speaker 1: Hey, I got your number now, so it's all good.
Speaker 1: So ex Yeah, for sure we're gonna do it more.
Speaker 1: All right, Well till next time, everyone, have an excellent
Speaker 1: evening and we'll talk again tomorrow. We'll see all then.
Speaker 1: Today I want to welcome Esoteric Eddie. He is an
Speaker 1: unbiased researcher and writer of occult, conspiratorial and esoteric subjects.
Speaker 1: With over ten years of studies and experience, he provides
Speaker 1: fascinating facts and interesting insight. He is also the creator
Speaker 1: of entertaining videos and documentaries on his YouTube channel Esoteric
Speaker 1: Eddie tv Eddie. Welcome, how you doing.
Speaker 3: Hey doing all right? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, I've been looking forward to tonight. Your work
Speaker 1: covers some of my favorite areas to discuss ancient, hidden
Speaker 1: esoteric history, which actually becomes more like sci fi fantasy
Speaker 1: than anything we could really imagine in the false reality
Speaker 1: we have. And there's so much that we could discuss.
Speaker 1: There's so much, many areas that we could go into.
Speaker 1: I think that this could even be a two part episode.
Speaker 1: There's so much we could talk to. Now, this is
Speaker 1: your first time on I'd love if we could start
Speaker 1: with a little bit more about your background and what
Speaker 1: was it that really got you started researching these topics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so, I've been researching this stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: the esoteric cult, conspiratorial for well over ten years. I'm
Speaker 3: about to be twenty eight this year. My whole life
Speaker 3: has revolved around esotericallygy I grew up in a Christian
Speaker 3: and Catholic home, so I was always intrigued by the
Speaker 3: Bible and it's deeper mysteries. Had some strange experiences as
Speaker 3: a kid growing up that also led me on this path,
Speaker 3: but I didn't start actually diving into this knowledge until
Speaker 3: I was around twelve to fourteen years old, started listening
Speaker 3: to certain hip hop music and started reading a lot
Speaker 3: of different books and watching different documentaries. And I guess
Speaker 3: really it started with the music subliminally, just hearing certain
Speaker 3: artists bringing certain subjects up that I wasn't familiar with
Speaker 3: that sounded fascinating. So that songs and those lyrics led
Speaker 3: me to knowledge, and then coming across these different books
Speaker 3: led me to deeper and deeper things.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, man, well, I think a good place for
Speaker 1: us to start tonight. Since this is such a broad
Speaker 1: kind of discussion that covers so many areas your book
Speaker 1: The Lucifer Mystery Revealed, let's start there. Maybe you could
Speaker 1: give us a synopsis of your book.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, it's an academic perspective on the historicity of
Speaker 3: Lucifer within the Church and the occult. So I take
Speaker 3: reader through basically a historical and academic journey throughout the
Speaker 3: book to show them how I came to my conclusion
Speaker 3: as to who or what Lucifer really is is Because
Speaker 3: what I found is that we misunderstood and mistranslated ancient texts,
Speaker 3: and out of that misunderstanding, we concocted this archetype that
Speaker 3: we know of as Lucifer. But he never really actually
Speaker 3: existed within the Bible. We created it through our own misunderstanding, mistranslation,
Speaker 3: and later fanatical imaginations within the occult.
Speaker 1: Right on. So how far should we go back when
Speaker 1: we look at the origins of this misunderstanding of Lucifer.
Speaker 3: Well, it all starts with Isaiah, the prophet inscribed by
Speaker 3: Isaiah in the Old Testament. It all starts there because
Speaker 3: he is the one who gave us the famous Lucifer verse,
Speaker 3: which is Isaiah fourteen twelve, which is the famous Old
Speaker 3: Lucifer How art Thou fallen? So it starts with him,
Speaker 3: and it presses from there. But in the book I
Speaker 3: go farther back than Isaiah and Isaiah. We're talking about
Speaker 3: like six hundred BC around then. But the concept, the
Speaker 3: occult concept of Lucifer, and even the theological concept of
Speaker 3: Lucifer having to be related to the serpent in the
Speaker 3: Garden of Eden. That story and that aspect of Lucifer
Speaker 3: goes all the way back to ancient sumer.
Speaker 1: A lot of these stories that are based around human
Speaker 1: creation are found within the Samerian mythos as well. What
Speaker 1: is your interpretation of the Garden of Eden adam ory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a fascinating tale. And of course it's
Speaker 3: in the book Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament,
Speaker 3: and I review the Old test through the lens that
Speaker 3: it is borrowing or even kind of in a way
Speaker 3: reshaping old old world mythologies. For example, and the biggest
Speaker 3: example of this is Uh, the flood myth within the Bible.
Speaker 3: Now we would view, you know, Christians and theologians and
Speaker 3: and just people who don't look into this deep enough
Speaker 3: would think that the flood myth is is uh is
Speaker 3: precisely just a judaic myth, but it's not. Actually it was.
Speaker 3: It was borrowed or retold from ancient Sumerian versions. And
Speaker 3: in the Biblical version, we have one God who is
Speaker 3: capriciously deciding, you know, to kill mankind or to save
Speaker 3: mankind through through Noah and his family. And that hesitancy
Speaker 3: that we see in the Bible is because it's borrowing
Speaker 3: from the Sumerian tale. We're in the Sumerian tale, it's
Speaker 3: not one God, but two gods, two brother gods who
Speaker 3: are contemplating about this, you know, endeavor. So if we
Speaker 3: take that into consideration, we can kind of start to
Speaker 3: look at the Old Testament through that lens that they're
Speaker 3: kind of retelling the Sumerian tale in a more simplified
Speaker 3: monotheistic way. So those two brother gods were the Sumerian
Speaker 3: and Key and Edel. And en key Is has been
Speaker 3: remembered by scholars as syriologists and alternative scholars of all kind,
Speaker 3: alternative scholars of all kind as the witty, clever, wise
Speaker 3: scientists who was sympathetic to mankind, whereas en Lil has
Speaker 3: been remembered as the militant, vindictive deity who was regretful
Speaker 3: about our creation. So in the Garden of Eden story,
Speaker 3: if we're looking at it through that lens, we can
Speaker 3: pretty much assume that n Key is the serpent in
Speaker 3: that story who is trying to give us knowledge and
Speaker 3: is being represented as a as a snake, whereas and
Speaker 3: Lil was probably Yahweh, or god who who was frustrated
Speaker 3: and angry about this taking place.
Speaker 1: The most prominent information that from modern accounts that we
Speaker 1: get is from Zariah Stitchen about the Sumerian mythos. Now,
Speaker 1: there are many that argue that you know a lot
Speaker 1: of his information was misinterpreted and misunderstood. What do you
Speaker 1: think how accurate do you think was the information coming
Speaker 1: out from Stitching's translations based on what could possibly have
Speaker 1: been reality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, great question up. I hold sit in high respect.
Speaker 3: I think he was a pioneer and he was the
Speaker 3: great aspect of his work isn't that he was accurate.
Speaker 3: The great aspect of his work was the speculative aspect
Speaker 3: of it. Now, the fact that he took the time
Speaker 3: to look at all the world's mythologies. I mean, he
Speaker 3: wrote a series of seven books in the Earth Chronicle series.
Speaker 3: I think it's about seven books, and in all those books,
Speaker 3: which I've read all of them, I have all of them,
Speaker 3: and some of his other books outside of that, And
Speaker 3: what's fascinating is he took the time to look at
Speaker 3: all the world's mythologies and piece it together, the similarities,
Speaker 3: and narrate a storyline that makes sense. And that storyline
Speaker 3: is that a long time ago, there were the gods
Speaker 3: here on Earth, and then at some point they decided
Speaker 3: to more or less upgrade the homo erectus or neanderthal
Speaker 3: man that was here and jumpstart evolution and genically engineered
Speaker 3: the Homo sapien and then from then on our modern
Speaker 3: civilization spawned, as mainstream science would tell us about sixty
Speaker 3: seven thousand years ago. So the greatness about his work
Speaker 3: is the speculativeness of it, you know, and how he
Speaker 3: took the time to piece that all together for us.
Speaker 3: But he wasn't the only one to really speculate that
Speaker 3: this story matter. As a matter of fact, I did
Speaker 3: a documentary on Esoteric Adyt and in that documentary I
Speaker 3: revealed that in a in an interview, Uh, that'siti you
Speaker 3: did back. I believe in probably the seventies or eighties,
Speaker 3: he reveals that he learned that subject or that or
Speaker 3: that concept from an old rabbi, uh, a rabbi by
Speaker 3: the name of Malbim. And in Judaism there are a
Speaker 3: line of rabbi commentators on the Torah who are highly respected.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, their commentaries are are taught
Speaker 3: or were taught in the synagogues as extra knowledge to
Speaker 3: go with the Torah. And this Rabbi Malbeim was one
Speaker 3: of the first to postulate that the sons of God
Speaker 3: in the Genesis story with you know, the beings who
Speaker 3: came down to heaven and made it with mankind and
Speaker 3: created the abominable offspring of the Nephilim. He Malbem postulated
Speaker 3: that these Nephilm could have been extraterrestrial, so Sitchyan as
Speaker 3: a kid, actually learned that from him, and along with
Speaker 3: Citian just mainstream as Syriologists have also concluded that Enki
Speaker 3: is without a doubt. You know the source of esoteric
Speaker 3: and wise knowledge in the old world, that a lot
Speaker 3: of the occults and mythologies that came afterward borrowed from.
Speaker 1: But when we look at these so called gods in Key,
Speaker 1: in lil and basically all these figures from Mythos three
Speaker 1: throughout history that speak of godlike entities, do you think
Speaker 1: that these were possibly extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously I don't know. Of course I
Speaker 3: don't know. But if we look at what the text
Speaker 3: tell us, right, the text tell us that they were
Speaker 3: gods and that they came from the heavens, which we
Speaker 3: can assume with space outer space. And so if I
Speaker 3: were to go by what our ancestors told us, what
Speaker 3: the text tell us, I would say that they came
Speaker 3: from outer space, you know, and whether that was like
Speaker 3: what a sitchen theorized, you know, a nearby planet that
Speaker 3: orbits every so thousand years. Maybe, but more recently people
Speaker 3: have been also speculating that, yeah, maybe they were interdimensional travelers.
Speaker 3: But all that I do know is that they're not
Speaker 3: here anymore, you know, seemingly not here anymore. And also
Speaker 3: what I do know is that all of our ancestors
Speaker 3: in the Old World spoke about a calamity, a great
Speaker 3: flood or just some calamity that occurred, and after that
Speaker 3: we kind of had to restart, and that is pretty
Speaker 3: evident in the archaeology around the world. So my honest,
Speaker 3: my personal belief is that there were a race of
Speaker 3: beings that we can call gods that weren't native to
Speaker 3: this Earth. I would say that they were very smart
Speaker 3: and advanced and did jumpstart evolution to genetically engineer the
Speaker 3: Homo sapien. And due to wars and just arrogance and
Speaker 3: just you know, plain old getting old, they kind of
Speaker 3: died off because they were the minority. You know, we
Speaker 3: started to populate and we became the majority. So as
Speaker 3: they died off or laughed or whatever, they became the minority,
Speaker 3: and what I can imagine that they just kind of
Speaker 3: just started to look at everything they've done and realized,
Speaker 3: you know, they made a mistake and that they're better
Speaker 3: off just leaving us to our own devices. And instead
Speaker 3: of ruling over us physically, they instituted religion. And here
Speaker 3: we are today still venerating them through the religions we have.
Speaker 1: Right on now. Unlike stitchens idea of the end and
Speaker 1: ock evening to basically use us as slaves to harvest gold,
Speaker 1: there have been other theories recently more possibly more or
Speaker 1: spiritual reasons or maybe more energetic reasons just using us
Speaker 1: as slaves, other reasons besides harvesting gold. I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on that. What do you think were
Speaker 1: the reasons for the beings to manipulate hominid DNA and
Speaker 1: create humanity?
Speaker 3: Well? I think yeah, they pretty much just created us
Speaker 3: to be slaves, you know, and not not like slaves
Speaker 3: in a matrix sense of it, like you know, like
Speaker 3: that's all they want, wanted us for just ease slaves
Speaker 3: and not allow us to you know, grow consciously. I
Speaker 3: think they were just in need for work workers, the
Speaker 3: same way that today were in need for like AI technology,
Speaker 3: you know it it was less about being like sinister
Speaker 3: and more about them just trying to come up with
Speaker 3: a clever way to get some help. And and so
Speaker 3: that's that's how I view it. They they it was
Speaker 3: more about them just creating us so that we could
Speaker 3: help them out and h and after they did so,
Speaker 3: they realize that it was maybe a mistake or maybe
Speaker 3: the greatest thing that ever happened.
Speaker 1: Now, this idea of a false god or an in
Speaker 1: littl like archetype that doesn't really care for humanity and
Speaker 1: possibly at times maybe have had a hand in wiping
Speaker 1: out large portions of the population. Do you see this
Speaker 1: is somewhat the same story as you hear in you know,
Speaker 1: Gnostic scriptures of the demiurge or or Sophia creating this
Speaker 1: type of entity that is a false god over humanity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's similar. I think
Speaker 3: there's always been that kind of motif all throughout human history.
Speaker 3: We've kind of always seen things as divided between good
Speaker 3: and evil, and we've explained that in different ways through
Speaker 3: different religions. But being that the Sumerian mythologies preceded that
Speaker 3: by thousands of years, and by the time narcissism came together,
Speaker 3: the Sumerian civilization and its mythologies were buried, understand and
Speaker 3: long forgotten. So I think they kind of just came
Speaker 3: up with that intuitively, not directly because of the Sumerian tales.
Speaker 3: I think that was an intuitive thing actually spawned from
Speaker 3: Greek philosophy.
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that it's possible that there are
Speaker 1: theological and very high level factions of not only secret
Speaker 1: societies and magical orders, but even beyond that that know
Speaker 1: the actual truth and may have documented the actual history,
Speaker 1: real human history, that could coincide with this Sumerian mythos
Speaker 1: That these factions are still around today holding this information.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it's possible. Like, of course, we
Speaker 3: have the famous Emerald Tablets of Toth, which are a
Speaker 3: fascinating piece of work, and they were brought to us
Speaker 3: by the American occultists doctor M. Doriel in the forties
Speaker 3: and fifties, who he claimed to have been contacted by
Speaker 3: some Tibetan monks and to have gone to go study
Speaker 3: in Shambala with them, and that they gave him the
Speaker 3: permission to translate the emerald tablets into English, And for
Speaker 3: those who haven't read the Tablets of Toth, they talk
Speaker 3: about the Atlantian era, and they talk about how during
Speaker 3: that era these energetic beings crept into our realm and
Speaker 3: started to take over the subconscious minds of the Atlantians.
Speaker 3: And Tod says in the tablets that it got so
Speaker 3: bad and to the point where he couldn't tell who
Speaker 3: was infected and who wasn't. And that was the real
Speaker 3: downfall of Atlantis, was that these energetic beings overtook our
Speaker 3: minds and caused us to destroy ourselves. And then after
Speaker 3: it all came crashing down, of course, then we have
Speaker 3: the legend of the flood and the legend of the
Speaker 3: priesthoods coming out of that, and then the two pillars
Speaker 3: of Enoch being erected, which had knowledge unscribed on them,
Speaker 3: you know, the sacred sciences inscribed on them, so that
Speaker 3: mankind can learn how to restart civilization after the calamity
Speaker 3: and carry on the Atlantian priesthood. So I do believe
Speaker 3: that you know, somewhere out there, be it Shambala or
Speaker 3: what have you, some benevolent congregation of ascended masters know
Speaker 3: what's really going on, and are allowing the foolery to
Speaker 3: go as as it needs to be for the greater purpose.
Speaker 1: Do you think that these these gods were physical beings?
Speaker 1: And if so, do you think that the evidence that
Speaker 1: we have could be the elongated skull people or maybe
Speaker 1: giant bones.
Speaker 3: I believe that the elongated school phenomenon comes from the
Speaker 3: offspring of these gods and us. I think these elongated schools,
Speaker 3: or I believe these elongated schools are the nephilm, the abominable,
Speaker 3: abominable offspring, you know, with these deformalities and whatnot. But
Speaker 3: the actual pure bred gods, I do think that they
Speaker 3: were physical at some point, and we're talking hundreds of
Speaker 3: thousands of years, you know, if we go by what
Speaker 3: the Sumerian text tell us. For example, the Sumerian king List,
Speaker 3: which is a physical cylindrical text tells us, gives us
Speaker 3: a list of some legendary rulers, and this list goes
Speaker 3: all the way back to four hundred almost five hundred
Speaker 3: thousand years ago, So we're talking many many years ago.
Speaker 3: So for their bones or their coffins or whatever to
Speaker 3: still be around, I don't think they would be, don't.
Speaker 3: So there's not much evidence for them anymore. But I
Speaker 3: do believe that originally these gods were physical, And.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that is the reason why scriptures
Speaker 1: like the Book of Enoch were intentionally not considered part
Speaker 1: of the Bible and left out.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, The Book of Enoch was highly regarded as canon,
Speaker 3: you know, prior to the fourth century Common Era. Then
Speaker 3: it was excluded during the Constantinian dynasty through the Council
Speaker 3: of Nicea, when Christianity became a world religion, and it
Speaker 3: was excluded and condemned to be taught or spread around
Speaker 3: specifically for that reason, because it talks about fallen angels
Speaker 3: being corporeal and having direct relationship with mankind.
Speaker 1: Now, as far as the nephilim, is it possible that
Speaker 1: these entities are the same that could be responsible for
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that have happened throughout history,
Speaker 1: even going into our modern history today that dictate where
Speaker 1: we're headed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's impossile ability. Recently on my Instagram
Speaker 3: I posted just just a joke, but it's it's pretty startling.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Jacob Rothschild, right, he's got like an
Speaker 3: elongated school, you know, he's got he's got a big
Speaker 3: head and Uh, so there might some of these elites, right,
Speaker 3: might actually be the descendants of these Nephilim and and
Speaker 3: are in secret continuing the ruling that their answers had
Speaker 3: over us.
Speaker 1: When going back to Old Testament stories of the Bible,
Speaker 1: what is your take on, Uh, the story of no
Speaker 1: possibly could have had somethink the DNA of animals and humans,
Speaker 1: and it couldn't might not have been a boat, but
Speaker 1: some kind of storage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sitchin postulated that, and I think that could be true.
Speaker 3: It could be true. Of course, the story of Noah
Speaker 3: goes all the way back to the Sumerians as well,
Speaker 3: and in the Samerian tell the wording is is different,
Speaker 3: and they do and I guess such an such a
Speaker 3: And he grew up in Hebrew school, so he understood,
Speaker 3: excuse me, Hebrew really well, and he understood that translational
Speaker 3: errors were everywhere with the English and Latin and the
Speaker 3: Greek and all that kind of stuff. But when you
Speaker 3: read it in Hebrew, the arc seems more like like
Speaker 3: a submersible thing on a submersible boat. And I guess apparently,
Speaker 3: if you read it correctly, it does say the seed
Speaker 3: of all animals as opposed to all animals, So I
Speaker 3: think there's some truth to that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that these entities may have been giants?
Speaker 1: Do you think that they were taller than most humans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not what the text tell us. You know that
Speaker 3: they were They were giants and of greater stature than us,
Speaker 3: So I would assume that, you know, many of them
Speaker 3: were that way. But as most things kind of have
Speaker 3: evolved for humans, right, it's like we're kind of we're
Speaker 3: kind of getting less bulkier. I would imagine that they
Speaker 3: them too, have kind of shrinken or shrunken in size
Speaker 3: and lost that original pure bread justature. But there are
Speaker 3: still things that might stick out to us, like like
Speaker 3: the rh negative blood type, or the you know, cranial
Speaker 3: enlargement like Jacob Rothschild, or just the fact that some
Speaker 3: of these people live really, really long lives, like the
Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth Just. I think there are just small little
Speaker 3: things that are still remnant of the purebread genes.
Speaker 1: Now, when you look at ancient stories that could indicate
Speaker 1: their civilizations had great technologies, such as the evidence that
Speaker 1: we have of building and construction of megalithic sites that
Speaker 1: we can't rec create. What kind of technology and how advanced.
Speaker 1: Do you think some of this stuff was that our
Speaker 1: ancient ancestors were using.
Speaker 3: Well, my opinion on that has changed over the years,
Speaker 3: and I think that I think that a lot of
Speaker 3: it was actually built by humans with very intricate techniques
Speaker 3: that we don't understand, you know, even today. You know,
Speaker 3: you could we have artists all around the world that
Speaker 3: create works of architecture that are phenomenal that you know,
Speaker 3: if I were to look at it, I would think
Speaker 3: an alien builds it, you know. But I do think
Speaker 3: that there are the rare cases, like the Pyramids of Giza,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Machu Pichu because of its elevation. So
Speaker 3: I think there are the rare cases where some technology
Speaker 3: was used under the guidance of these gods. And I
Speaker 3: mean they definitely weren't using like Milwaukee power tools and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, they were probably using some some different form
Speaker 3: of technology, right because technology, all it really is is
Speaker 3: just us taking elements that are natural and putting them together.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like alchemy, right, Like like a like
Speaker 3: a sword is really just iron and and and fire.
Speaker 3: So I imagine the way that we build tools today is
Speaker 3: our specific way with with you know, wires and plastic
Speaker 3: and this and that. I imagine that they probably just
Speaker 3: had a different way of designing tools, maybe using you know,
Speaker 3: crystal based technology, uh and diamond based technology with with
Speaker 3: instead of using cheap metals like we like to do
Speaker 3: because of everything for us, it's about making the profit.
Speaker 3: They probably use very what they thought of was divine technology.
Speaker 3: So they are probably using very precious metals and minerals
Speaker 3: to build their technology, uh, and probably understood anti gravitational
Speaker 3: you know sciences as well to to to go along
Speaker 3: with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about these gods having created this
Speaker 1: false matrix as a planet for us, that we are
Speaker 1: basically here under their control as some sort of you know,
Speaker 1: slaves or prisoners for these false gods.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's a deep one. And I think that
Speaker 3: I'm kind of with Sitching in the fact that I
Speaker 3: think that the Onunaki themselves even venerated a creator of all.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't see the Onnaki or these old
Speaker 3: world gods as the end all, be all deities or
Speaker 3: creator of our universe. I think they were just as
Speaker 3: lost and just as trapped in this matrix as we are.
Speaker 3: They just had an upper hand and kind of you know,
Speaker 3: we're like the bully, right and kind of just bullied
Speaker 3: us around or whatever, the big brothers, the big sisters.
Speaker 3: But I think these the energetic beings that are controlling
Speaker 3: this versus this reality, go beyond the stories of the Ananachy,
Speaker 3: go beyond the history of that, because that history itself
Speaker 3: is only you know, maybe at most a million years old,
Speaker 3: you know, but the universe and the reality, for all
Speaker 3: we know, is infinite. So I think the beings that
Speaker 3: are controlling this, this matrix grid in this false very
Speaker 3: reality that we live in are something vastly more sinister
Speaker 3: that we have. You have to understand.
Speaker 1: Do you think that would be something that some understand
Speaker 1: as demons or lower vibrational entities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one way to describe them. But
Speaker 3: I think even again, I think they transcend those titles
Speaker 3: because those titles are just they're they're Christian ideologies, right,
Speaker 3: and christ Christianity, Christian and Judaic ideologies, and that we're
Speaker 3: also influenced from Zoroastrianism. So these are ideologies and concepts
Speaker 3: that are pretty pretty young in the scope of the universe.
Speaker 3: So I think those are just ways that we use
Speaker 3: to cope with to understand these beings, but they transcend
Speaker 3: those labels.
Speaker 1: Lately, we've been seeing our own government are the pentagon,
Speaker 1: the mainstream media mentioning UFOs, putting out reports, putting it
Speaker 1: into the public consciousness. Now, I don't trust anything ever
Speaker 1: coming out of our government or media, and I've wondered
Speaker 1: from the beginning why they were doing this and what's
Speaker 1: the reason behind it. But I want to get your
Speaker 1: thought on it, because it can't be good in my eyes,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it is anything like we are
Speaker 1: being told from those sources, and I'm not even sure
Speaker 1: that they understand what they're dealing with. But what do
Speaker 1: you think about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I share the same same thoughts. I think. I
Speaker 3: think for the most part, they're being deceived, you know.
Speaker 3: I think I think the government you know these uh,
Speaker 3: well a lot of people that are that are coming
Speaker 3: forward with this stuff. It's not really like, you know,
Speaker 3: the the White House. I mean, the White House is
Speaker 3: partaking in this, but it's like these these uh, these
Speaker 3: offshoots of intelligence, right, these these retired retired intelligence guys
Speaker 3: like Lewis Alisondo, right, all these retired dudes who are
Speaker 3: coming out who and I think some of them are
Speaker 3: good hearted. You know, some of these retired intelligent guys
Speaker 3: who have been who've been involved with like Moufon and
Speaker 3: you know, the esoteric and conspirator community who have been
Speaker 3: fighting in a way to get some of this knowledge
Speaker 3: out there. I think some of them are good hearted
Speaker 3: and believe what they've experienced is real and think that
Speaker 3: humanity should know this stuff. But I think that, uh,
Speaker 3: the government and some of these these intelligent organizations that
Speaker 3: are trying to get the truth out there are being
Speaker 3: somewhat deceived. Again, I think these beings are way more
Speaker 3: ancient than we know, and are way more sinister and
Speaker 3: deceptive than we know. And for example, as JACQ Vley
Speaker 3: put it, you know, the world renowned uphologists, him and
Speaker 3: Carl Jung, who also also wrote a book on UFOs
Speaker 3: a controversial opinion on UFOs and aliens as opposed to
Speaker 3: the rest of the UFO community. They think that these
Speaker 3: beings or this phenomenon is occurring subconsciously or within the
Speaker 3: conscious realm. Jaqu Valat I'm quoting from him, paraphrasing from him,
Speaker 3: he thought, He said that whatever these beings are, that
Speaker 3: they are trying to get us to build a mythology
Speaker 3: about them so that we can work them into our minds,
Speaker 3: thus into our reality. For what reason? That's what's up
Speaker 3: for question.
Speaker 1: Do you think that these entities that we're dealing with
Speaker 1: today in times are any way connected to the Innaki
Speaker 1: or the missiles of the gods of the past.
Speaker 3: You know, my opinions do not have changed, of course,
Speaker 3: Like Sitchen would tell us that that the gray alien
Speaker 3: were somewhat of like sentient robots or you know, basically
Speaker 3: just ai for the Onnaki. They were created so that
Speaker 3: they could traverse, you know, vast amounts of space without
Speaker 3: being harmed by you know, fast speeds or radiation or whatever,
Speaker 3: to go check up on us and different things. I
Speaker 3: think that's a possibility, and then you h but with
Speaker 3: these grays, these grays are just a fascinating thing. Man
Speaker 3: like and Cradle Mudwa, for example, I did a documentary
Speaker 3: him on the channel. He was the last Sanousi or
Speaker 3: wisdom keeper of the Zulu tribe of Africa. He tells
Speaker 3: many stories about these gray aliens and and everything that
Speaker 3: he has experienced and went through and heard. He concluded
Speaker 3: for himself that these beings were at actually us from
Speaker 3: the future, and that they were coming back to punish us.
Speaker 3: And that's why a lot of the times when you're
Speaker 3: under abduction, a lot of people will report being shown
Speaker 3: graphic video and images of the world ending. So I
Speaker 3: think they're like, they've kind of whatever these beings are,
Speaker 3: they've obviously lost their emotional capability, they've lost what we
Speaker 3: would call soul, but they're very interested for some reason
Speaker 3: in our warfare and our destruction and trying to stop that.
Speaker 3: Strangely enough, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I've heard this before, and I've even proposed that these
Speaker 1: gray aliens indeed are us future, coming to warn us
Speaker 1: against the agendas we have going connected to technology and transhumanism,
Speaker 1: and that could be where they came from. We keep
Speaker 1: altering ourselves, we keep connecting ourselves to technology, grading our biology,
Speaker 1: changing what we look like, interfacing ourselves, and maybe we
Speaker 1: do end up looking exactly like gray aliens. But there's
Speaker 1: lots of problems with that, and we're just coming back
Speaker 1: to say stop what you're doing, and it's not too good,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's some truth to that, man. I mean,
Speaker 3: once we started getting into like quatics and string theory,
Speaker 3: and how there could be different timelines and dimensions. I
Speaker 3: think all of that stuff is plausible and that's all
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 1: Now let's go let's go back to some of the
Speaker 1: biblical stories. What are your thoughts on the stories of Moses.
Speaker 3: Okay, Moses fascinating figure mythologically, and I've come across some
Speaker 3: alternative scholars who included that acontin was actually Moses, and
Speaker 3: there's some there's some pieces of evidence for that. Ocinatin,
Speaker 3: of course, was Amenhotep the fourth who broke off from
Speaker 3: the kingship to go start the first Egyptian monotheistic religion
Speaker 3: where they worship Auten or the Son. So there was
Speaker 3: a lot of similarities with acon Natin and Moses, and
Speaker 3: Moses even in the Bible and in esoteric teachings of
Speaker 3: the Bible. Uh, he was taught under the Egyptian beasthoods.
Speaker 3: So Moses is like this a cult esoteric figure who knew,
Speaker 3: you know, Egyptian mysticism and UH the Ten Commandments from
Speaker 3: what I understand, and was somewhat again borrowed or like
Speaker 3: a rendition of some of the Egyptian UH Commandments coming
Speaker 3: from I believe the Book of the dead. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of meshing from the Egyptian mysticism into the
Speaker 3: story of Moses.
Speaker 1: What about the the archetype or story of Jesus. There
Speaker 1: some that think that he never existed, some some that
Speaker 1: think he was just an individual that went under a
Speaker 1: different name, Yeshiah. What about What do you think about
Speaker 1: these stories? Man?
Speaker 3: That's that's the most prolific one right there, you know,
Speaker 3: And I do plan on digging into that eventually and
Speaker 3: making my own final conclusion. I grew up, you know,
Speaker 3: praying to Jesus and thinking it was real, and still
Speaker 3: somewhat have a relationship with that, you know, energy and archetype.
Speaker 3: But I've read some things. In my conclusion right now
Speaker 3: is there are some strange stuff there for and I'll
Speaker 3: give you an example. Right So, it's like, supposedly there
Speaker 3: was an actual yes Yesua which is Joshua in English,
Speaker 3: who was a political leader during that time. Uh so
Speaker 3: the apparently there's some evidence for that, you know, an
Speaker 3: actual political leader around that time name yosh Yeshua Joshua.
Speaker 3: And then but you also have all these semblances of
Speaker 3: Greek philosophy influencing the New Testament. So I could see
Speaker 3: why there would be, you know, a plot, I guess
Speaker 3: you could say, to create this mythology that has a
Speaker 3: lot of semblances to askro theology and pagan religion, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of telling a tale of how to awaken,
Speaker 3: awaken the consciousness and break away from the system. But
Speaker 3: what's also fascinating is how much early Judaism kind of
Speaker 3: was repulsed by the idea of Jesus. There was a
Speaker 3: book by the name of the Tota Debt Yes You
Speaker 3: that used to be taught in the synagogues, but it
Speaker 3: was dismissed at sometime in modern history. So I'm in
Speaker 3: the second millennium. Sorry, yes, sometimes the first millennium, but
Speaker 3: in the Total Debt yes you, Uh. The the Jews
Speaker 3: try to kind of like reverse the idea of Jesus,
Speaker 3: and they said he was nothing but a black magician
Speaker 3: who actually found out the name of God, wrote it
Speaker 3: on a piece of parchment, split his wrist, and then
Speaker 3: slid the peace parchment in a risk, and that's how
Speaker 3: he was able to do all the magic tricks. So
Speaker 3: I just think that I just felt like, if he
Speaker 3: was fake, why not just say he was fake as
Speaker 3: opposed to trying to degrade who he was, you know.
Speaker 3: So there's just a lot of a lot of questionable
Speaker 3: things with that mythology in it. So as of right now,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was real or not, but
Speaker 3: there's some deeper mysteries that need to be looked at.
Speaker 1: Now. In your eyes, do you think that the story
Speaker 1: of humanity is that we are indeed special beings with
Speaker 1: a divine spark that have a very intentful purpose and
Speaker 1: very divine purpose for being here? Or are we just
Speaker 1: creations from these beings that are merely here for their
Speaker 1: scientific experiments and to find out what makes us tick?
Speaker 1: Or is there is it like the story of Inland Lininky,
Speaker 1: that they've given us this the divine spot, and one
Speaker 1: of them is jealous of that and did not intend
Speaker 1: on ever giving us that and wanted to remove it,
Speaker 1: and the other one does actually have some kind of
Speaker 1: compassion for us and wants us to evolve and grow
Speaker 1: into spiritual beings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's pretty much what happened.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: They wanted to just create us a benign, you know,
Speaker 3: non intelligent being that could just be used to work
Speaker 3: for them, but they just admired us some of them
Speaker 3: admired us and saw the potential in us and saw
Speaker 3: themselves in us, you know, as the Bible says, you know,
Speaker 3: God made man in his image. So I think that
Speaker 3: some of them, like Enki admired us and saw the
Speaker 3: potential in us and upgraded us even further and gave
Speaker 3: us knowledge and saw that we could be taught and
Speaker 3: that we could learn and we could become worthy of sovereignty.
Speaker 3: And then some others like and Lil just kind of
Speaker 3: were just discussed by the whole process, especially when they
Speaker 3: started mating with us. I mean that was like akin
Speaker 3: to us, you know, having sex with Ai robots or something.
Speaker 1: Do you think that some of these mythological creatures that
Speaker 1: we've heard about through ancient texts throughout the ages possibly
Speaker 1: still exist and are what are seen as bigfoots or
Speaker 1: dog men or cryptid creatures, and they're just entities or
Speaker 1: possibly even you know, interdimensional or extraterrestrial beings that we
Speaker 1: don't understand yet.
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to like the cryptids and
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, I believe that those are just
Speaker 3: like interdimensional, like just strain beings from either interdimensional or
Speaker 3: like caught in our timeline by accident from wherever they
Speaker 3: come from, I think a lot. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of the monster mythologies are also like kind of dramatized.
Speaker 3: For example, like in the Sumerian anuma Alish, which is
Speaker 3: the story of the creation of the Solar system, it
Speaker 3: is told like a battle. You know, if you read it,
Speaker 3: you think you're reading a battle between the gods and
Speaker 3: demons or monsters and the great monster. The great antagonists
Speaker 3: of the story is Tiamat, who is told who is
Speaker 3: described as a watery like dragon, But really it's it's
Speaker 3: a planet that they're describing. So I think, you know,
Speaker 3: our ancestors read some of these texts and took them
Speaker 3: for face value as if there were monsters, but they
Speaker 3: were really cosmological tales of how our planets and our
Speaker 3: solar systems came to be.
Speaker 1: What about some of these guys, do you think are
Speaker 1: also just archetypes or astrologic representations of planets and different
Speaker 1: energies and the cosmos and not necessarily physical beings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 3: I think the further we got from the Sumerian tales,
Speaker 3: the more the stuff got like psychedelic and fanaticized, but
Speaker 3: it's obvious a lot of this stuff has astro theology
Speaker 3: built into it, and kind of the same way that
Speaker 3: you know, will will name streets after presidents, you know,
Speaker 3: they'll they named planets or constellations after gods. So I
Speaker 3: think the gods that these planets or constellations were named after,
Speaker 3: at least some of them were real beings that were
Speaker 3: just our people, that were just so great that we're
Speaker 3: given that honor.
Speaker 1: Now, what are your thoughts on the possibility that the
Speaker 1: communication with the gods was strictly achieved through altered states,
Speaker 1: such such as psychedelic or plant medicines that our ancients
Speaker 1: used to do, you know, these certain ceremonies or rituals,
Speaker 1: and under these effects they would make contact with these
Speaker 1: entities and get the information and the writings and basically
Speaker 1: our history and instructions on how to go forward. Do
Speaker 1: you think that that's a possibility.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely, Like like the Greek Eleusian
Speaker 3: or Elysian mysteries, you know, like we're like this whole
Speaker 3: sacrament stuff comes from drinking the wine and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: psychedelics definitely played a part in our esoteric and mystical priesthoods,
Speaker 3: and I think that they were separate from the mythologies
Speaker 3: of the gods, and I think we kind of just
Speaker 3: coupled them, and maybe when they were tripping, they kind
Speaker 3: of believed that they were seeing these gods. But I
Speaker 3: think those are two separate things. You know, the psychedelic
Speaker 3: trips and the stories of the ancient gods are too
Speaker 3: separate phenomenon to separate experiences. And I've done psychedelics myself,
Speaker 3: and I believe when you're when you're on those trips,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's easy to like kind of fall into
Speaker 3: the illusiory, you know, ideas and thoughts and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But behind all of that there is
Speaker 3: this like intuitive energy force, which I believe is something
Speaker 3: that precedes these archetypes.
Speaker 1: When you look at everything that's unfolding in the past
Speaker 1: few years and the awakening that humanity's going under and
Speaker 1: the realizations, do you think that we are headed to
Speaker 1: an age where we understand more about the nature of reality,
Speaker 1: being that it's an interdimensional reality, that we do possibly
Speaker 1: come from these beings, that we may have been created,
Speaker 1: and that the reason that we're going through all of
Speaker 1: this turmoil and everything is because we're going through a
Speaker 1: phase of awakening, and this is inevitable role that we
Speaker 1: learn this about ourselves and ndules that are attempting to
Speaker 1: stop this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're definitely going through an awakening and
Speaker 3: we're starting to kind of just grow up and mature
Speaker 3: as a species and realize the games that we have
Speaker 3: been playing, you know, with ourselves, with each other. But
Speaker 3: it's beautiful and it's a process we need to undergo,
Speaker 3: and we need to understand that we as beings, we
Speaker 3: transcend these institutions that we continually box ourselves in, and
Speaker 3: we don't need to be afraid of this endeavor. We
Speaker 3: shouldn't be afraid of leaving behind our religions and leaving
Speaker 3: behind our beliefs, because our beliefs aren't us, you know,
Speaker 3: we exist apart from those things, and we need to
Speaker 3: start focusing on reality a little more instead of all
Speaker 3: these fanaticized stuff. But I believe that what's going on
Speaker 3: is that energetic beings, for more or less, are possessing humans,
Speaker 3: and maybe they're tacking themselves on to humans that do have,
Speaker 3: you know, vulnerabilities within their psyche or their genes, such
Speaker 3: as these RH negative blood types or these elites who
Speaker 3: are vulnerable to corruption and stuff like that, kind of
Speaker 3: like the Atlantian story that Toath tells us in the tablets.
Speaker 3: I think we're just being taken advantage of through our psyche,
Speaker 3: through our subconscious.
Speaker 1: And do you think that everyone that is coming to
Speaker 1: these realizations and going through this awakening right now is
Speaker 1: a part of a specific group of people that's meant
Speaker 1: to come online during these times?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do believe that. I think that there is
Speaker 3: a certain set of people that it's their time. I
Speaker 3: think every generation has some set of people that were
Speaker 3: either either chose to be a part of this journey
Speaker 3: or just being called to be a part of this journey.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think there's a group of us, a
Speaker 3: community of us worldwide who were specifically chosen for this
Speaker 3: generation and you know, within this hundred years to uh
Speaker 3: or waken up and also help others wake up.
Speaker 1: Now, do you see that there is a kind of
Speaker 1: war also right now on spirituality to get people to
Speaker 1: be more materialistic and turn away from spirituality. But I
Speaker 1: think that that's the age that we're heading to, is
Speaker 1: where they're trying to get people turn to turn to
Speaker 1: a more materialistic age. Where do you see that in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of what's happening right now with all
Speaker 1: the agendas?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, man. Like, intuitively, I believe that I
Speaker 3: smiss time for example, right, which is like this lovey
Speaker 3: w like, I mean, Christmas time is just has a
Speaker 3: strange energy around and everybody just feels different around that
Speaker 3: time for the most part. And I think intuitively, like
Speaker 3: in our inchient past, that was the time of renewal, right,
Speaker 3: because we see everything's kind of dying around us, it's
Speaker 3: all getting cold, and then we're getting we're getting ready
Speaker 3: for the renewal, We're getting ready for the new year.
Speaker 3: We're getting you know. So all this pagans and stuff
Speaker 3: that our ancient ancestors revolve themselves around was used to
Speaker 3: be beautiful, used to be spiritual, because I mean, that
Speaker 3: is a life. That's how life carries on, is these
Speaker 3: cyclical things on earth, these cyclical things within our bodies.
Speaker 3: So I think back in the ancient times we were
Speaker 3: more in tune with the cyclicalness of nature. And so
Speaker 3: for example, like in during Christmas time, you know, people
Speaker 3: have postulated that the idea of elves and deers and
Speaker 3: Santa Claus and gifts and stuff like that actually comes
Speaker 3: from these ancient sacred rituals around Christmas time where we
Speaker 3: would bring in the new year, where we would we
Speaker 3: would take mushrooms or different psychedelics which were represented now
Speaker 3: as the elves and our Santa Claus and reindeer, because reindeer,
Speaker 3: you know, they around mushrooms and and forging around the forest.
Speaker 3: And I think that the gifts, the gifts used to
Speaker 3: be just nature. It used to be family, it used
Speaker 3: to be life, and but now it's like all of
Speaker 3: that has just been transformed to It's like now Christmas
Speaker 3: is just like all about you know exactly material things.
Speaker 3: You know, just what's Santa going to give me? You know,
Speaker 3: what am I getting for Christmas? Is all this like
Speaker 3: physicalness also materialness. So I think there's definitely, over the
Speaker 3: years been a huge shift in our spiritual awareness, a
Speaker 3: huge shift in our morals and what we view precious
Speaker 3: and valuable about life.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the possibility that these elites
Speaker 1: and those in control are practicing some sort of Saturn
Speaker 1: worship or or chronos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a fascinating theory. I love that one, and
Speaker 3: I let David aykeshu to say about it? You know
Speaker 3: how that Saturn is a certain frequency at the Moon
Speaker 3: which is being used as a receiver to then shoot
Speaker 3: that down towards us at a more concentrated rate, and
Speaker 3: that process actually keeps us in this Saturn matrix. I
Speaker 3: think there's some truth to that, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: fascinating and you for some reason, you do see Saturn everywhere,
Speaker 3: and Saturn is also represented as the cube, and I
Speaker 3: guess there is some sort of mathematical six x' six
Speaker 3: built into the cube and Saturn two somehow. So that
Speaker 3: is strange. And we do live in a world of
Speaker 3: in a reality of archetypes and of thought, so logos
Speaker 3: or or you know, images, subliminalism is the game that
Speaker 3: we are playing.
Speaker 1: Do you think that reincordination is a part of our existence? Uh?
Speaker 1: And if so, do you think that it's any way
Speaker 1: under the control of negative entities that are keeping us here?
Speaker 3: Sorry, what was the first part of the question.
Speaker 1: Do you think reincarnation is a part of our existence?
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it definitely does occur, But my mind
Speaker 3: has changed on that because I've read a book. I
Speaker 3: read a book a while back it's called Coming to
Speaker 3: Life by one of the famous uh Swamis. I don't
Speaker 3: know how to say his last name, but it's Ac
Speaker 3: and the something with to be. But the book is
Speaker 3: called coming or no, it's called coming, coming back. And
Speaker 3: he was the first one that brought it to my intention,
Speaker 3: to my attention. He brought to my attention that reincarnation
Speaker 3: is not it's not a belief system. It's not like
Speaker 3: like Christianity. It's not a doctrine meant to explain life
Speaker 3: and death that you follow. Reincarnation is something that you
Speaker 3: are supposed to avidly get out of, you know, so,
Speaker 3: so we are supposed to. He says in the book
Speaker 3: that if you are human, you have already lived through
Speaker 3: the other soul phases, and you are privileged more than
Speaker 3: all the other souls because you have reached the highest
Speaker 3: level before ascension. So human human being human is the
Speaker 3: last phase where you get to decide or where you
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to ascend or fall right back into
Speaker 3: the cycle. So my thoughts on reincarnation are just that
Speaker 3: that there is a cyclical process with the soul, and
Speaker 3: if you don't ascend while you're human, and if you
Speaker 3: don't tap into your consciousness and remember that that's what
Speaker 3: you are, and that's how you need to transition over
Speaker 3: to the next phase. Then you're wasting your time and
Speaker 3: you're going to be recycled consciously or not.
Speaker 1: Let's end on this. Do you think that we live
Speaker 1: on the traditional model of a planet in the space
Speaker 1: or is it something different that we don't really understand.
Speaker 1: Maybe some understand, but the main majority of people don't.
Speaker 1: It's like a realm or a simulated reality or holographic reality,
Speaker 1: or even some kind of you know, flat plane, don't
Speaker 1: you know. I don't think that the flat earth is
Speaker 1: a good term anymore. I think we need to look
Speaker 1: further and deeper into it. But I personally don't believe
Speaker 1: that the traditional model of space holds up at all,
Speaker 1: and that everything that comes out of NASA is a lie.
Speaker 1: So where do you think that leads us?
Speaker 3: Man, I just got into well, two of my friends
Speaker 3: just got into a debate about this the other day.
Speaker 3: You know, I love flat earth debates, and I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what, I definitely don't believe what NASA and the
Speaker 3: mainstream is telling us either. For sure, I would love
Speaker 3: to go see it for myself, but In that debate
Speaker 3: that my friends were having, I kind of sided with
Speaker 3: one of my friends who said that we are just
Speaker 3: living that whatever it is we are on, you know,
Speaker 3: via a quote unquote planet Earth, it's actually just an
Speaker 3: endless realm, and that we are just being told to
Speaker 3: stay here in this in this encampment. And I kind
Speaker 3: of vibe with that, and I as, right now, that's
Speaker 3: where I'm at, and I think that we are just
Speaker 3: being told that all we are is on this little
Speaker 3: earth of a handful of continents, but really there's so
Speaker 3: much more out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a fascinating idea of just endless land.
Speaker 1: And you know that land could be considered extraterrestrial land,
Speaker 1: and the bees that live there may not be what
Speaker 1: you consider humans. So that's a that's that adds another
Speaker 1: layer to that which is even more fascinating, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Yeah, some people have postulated that like these
Speaker 3: occur are these gods, They were just you know, akin
Speaker 3: to us, but they were just on a different part
Speaker 3: of the realm and just kind of came here and
Speaker 3: stumbled upon us, just kind of like took advantage of us,
Speaker 3: like well, they're gonna believe us whatever.
Speaker 1: Right on, Yes, man, this is fascinating stuff and I'd
Speaker 1: definitely love to have you back on the future to
Speaker 1: discuss more before you head out, let the audience know
Speaker 1: where they can find more about yourself, your work, your
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, anything you got going Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely fastest way to get in contact with me and
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Speaker 1: Man, Well, thank you so much. That was fantastic and
Speaker 1: like I said, we'll have to talk again soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thanks for having me for sure.
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