Speaker 1: This is WWE superstar Drew McIntyre, and you're listening to
Speaker 1: the WWE podcast.
Speaker 2: Show, the one that everybody wants me. God tell sixteen
Speaker 2: your ass, this is my arm.
Speaker 3: You're gonna acknowledge me.
Speaker 2: Everybody. It is that time once again, the second biggest
Speaker 2: event of the year for WWE, arguably SummerSlam is just
Speaker 2: two days away. As I record this and tonight, I've
Speaker 2: got somebody that hasn't been with me in several months now.
Speaker 2: You just heard from mister and missus Cawjuarrestling Fan last
Speaker 2: night on the mail bag, but he's doing double duty
Speaker 2: tonight with me to cover Summer Slam, and I'm excited
Speaker 2: to talk about SummerSlam, and overall I need to ask you,
Speaker 2: miscadsu rusting Fan. First of all, welcome back. I'm glad
Speaker 2: to do a show with you again. But also are
Speaker 2: you just as a whole Are you excited about SummerSlam?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I'll say that I'm ready to see Summer Slam. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to some good surprises hopefully. You know,
Speaker 4: Bake Bianca, we'll be a great match. You know, obviously
Speaker 4: we'd have one. So I'm rooting for roam, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm generally pretty happy with the cold. You know, it
Speaker 4: could be better, but hey, take what we can get, and.
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be some surprises along the way.
Speaker 2: I don't think that what you see is what you get. Obviously,
Speaker 2: a match was canceled. We'll talk about that with Riddle
Speaker 2: and Rollins, which is making a lot of people sad.
Speaker 2: But I think there's a plan there as I don't
Speaker 2: think the injury excuse is real, So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: But first you and I have to get to one
Speaker 2: quick email that was missed, my own fault that you
Speaker 2: guys didn't answer last night. And we'll get to that
Speaker 2: email right now, guys, and then we'll dive right into SummerSlam.
Speaker 2: And a lot of this does have to do with
Speaker 2: Summer Slam. So here we go. Uh, this email comes
Speaker 2: to us from let's see, it comes to us from
Speaker 2: perma Fire Kyle. Oh, it comes, and he says, hey, everyone,
Speaker 2: it's the return offile permofhile. I can't say it. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what perma fire means. Maybe I'm the
Speaker 2: only one perma Fire Kyle once again, after an insane
Speaker 2: week of wrestling news, before I get started with my
Speaker 2: Summer Slam predictions, I need to address something about miss
Speaker 2: but here we go, Uh, here we go, guys, The
Speaker 2: feud continues Missus Dennis McGinley and her one woman faction
Speaker 2: with just her in it as that one woman. She
Speaker 2: doesn't keep my podcast family, which is the Casual Wrestling Family,
Speaker 2: out of her mouth. So if mister Casual Wrestling Fan
Speaker 2: is up for it at the next Premium Live event,
Speaker 2: which I believe is Clash at the Castle, he's going
Speaker 2: to challenge Dennis McGinley to bring her person and find
Speaker 2: a tag team partner of her choosing to face me
Speaker 2: and mister Casual Wrestling Fan in an intergender tag team match.
Speaker 2: And yes I say it in her gender because it's
Speaker 2: for the young lay Missus Dennis McGinley. Before I get
Speaker 2: to the next paragraph and finish out the email, do
Speaker 2: you have anything to say to this this this fuse
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: Here, I'm gonna be brief sat out to my boy
Speaker 3: in New York.
Speaker 4: Caw akami, cal. We don't miss with miss Dennis McGinley.
Speaker 4: She sucks, sees nothing and I know she's listening, So
Speaker 4: guess what, you know what you can do we got
Speaker 4: two words for you, but I'm not gonna stay it
Speaker 4: on PT once.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe when WW turns TV fourteen, we'll change the
Speaker 2: rating of the show, but for now, yeah, okay, cool. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Now for the predictions. Let me say first that I'm
Speaker 2: writing this on Tuesday, so any matches that happened that
Speaker 2: day after that day could get announced. I will miss.
Speaker 2: First off, the Misterials versus spend Balery and Damian Priest
Speaker 2: of the Judgment Day and a no DQ tag team match.
Speaker 2: I think the Judgment Day win will win by Riha
Speaker 2: Ripley's interference and possibly Dominic turning on his dad since
Speaker 2: it didn't happen on Raw. Next up is Logan Paul
Speaker 2: versus the Miz, of which I really don't care about.
Speaker 2: I think Logan Wigan wins, and you know how WWE
Speaker 2: is with celebrities now or Next is Pat McAfee versus
Speaker 2: Happy Corbyn. I think Pat McAfee will win because everyone
Speaker 2: loves him and he is way more over than Corbyn is,
Speaker 2: if Corbyn even is over at all. Next is Riddle
Speaker 2: and Seth, and I'm going to ignore the rest of
Speaker 2: this Purva Fire Kyle because this match isn't happening. I
Speaker 2: know that you're saying Seth needs victory. We'll talk more
Speaker 2: about that later. Next up is Live versus Ronda Rowsey
Speaker 2: for the SmackDown Women's Championship. Unfortunately, I think Rowsey's gonna
Speaker 2: win because I think wwecs Live as a transitional champion.
Speaker 2: And I know you guys don't like Live, but come on,
Speaker 2: be honest. Would you rather have Ronda as champion again
Speaker 2: next year? Yeah? No, yeah, no, no, no, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Kyle, I have to say before
Speaker 2: I continue with the end of your email here. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna ask mister Kyle's wrestling fan about every one
Speaker 2: of these because we're getting to every one of these
Speaker 2: in our predictions, so that that would be a bit counterproductive.
Speaker 2: I think if we answered our thoughts on every one
Speaker 2: of your predictions. So okay, So next up, Bianca and
Speaker 2: Becky for this Raw Women's Championship. Permafile, permafire. Kyle, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna call him. Kyle thinks that Bianca Bella retains here,
Speaker 2: but there is going to be a double turn, and
Speaker 2: Beyonca turns heel while Becky turns face. Bobby Lashley versus
Speaker 2: Theory for the United States Championship. I think Bobby Lashley
Speaker 2: will retain, but Theory will be back on the show
Speaker 2: later on which he'll get to. And next is the
Speaker 2: USSOS and the Street Profits for the Tag Team Championship.
Speaker 2: This is a rematch from Money in the Bank, but
Speaker 2: this time the special guest referee j E Double f
Speaker 2: JA double r E double T Jeff Charrett. I think
Speaker 2: the USOS will get a clean win this time with
Speaker 2: no shoulders up to retain. And finally our main event,
Speaker 2: Roman versus Brock for the final time, hopefully in a
Speaker 2: last man standing match for the Unisputed Championship. I think
Speaker 2: Roman retains and the USO stop Theory from cashing in,
Speaker 2: but they stop him before he net before he actually
Speaker 2: cashes in, so he still has the briefcase. So uh
Speaker 2: any thoughts. I know, again, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 2: respond to that because we're gonna get to our predictions.
Speaker 2: But do you have a general reaction to all that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep your big concise thirty six Juis min
Speaker 4: Day Vegas agrees with you.
Speaker 3: Oh, Pat mac Vegas agrees with you.
Speaker 4: Logan Paul Vegas agrees with Bianca bell lef Vegas agrees
Speaker 4: with you, USO's Vegas agrees with your Roman Reigns. Vegas
Speaker 4: agrees with you, and Live Morgan Vegas disagrees with you.
Speaker 3: Live is the slight favorite.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, man, all right, So before I go, mister
Speaker 2: Kaiju Rusling fan asked in discord, who would you rather
Speaker 2: have as champion? Brock Lesnar or Theory, even though I
Speaker 2: think it's too soon for theory. We have seen it
Speaker 2: too many times on Brock, so I would have to
Speaker 2: go with Theory. Also, just curious, what are your guys
Speaker 2: thoughts on Vince retiring in Triple H taking over rest
Speaker 2: headed Creative. I'm very excited. That's all for me this week.
Speaker 2: Talk to everyone next time, and all of you babyfaces
Speaker 2: stay perm fire. So there you go, misguys. Russelling fen
Speaker 2: so he'd rather have Theory if it was a choice,
Speaker 2: And also he wants to know your thoughts because I've
Speaker 2: given it a million times. I'm not going to regive it.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts also on Vince retiring in
Speaker 2: Triple H taking over as head of creative?
Speaker 3: All right, let me give it to you like this.
Speaker 3: We talked about this briefly on the mail bag take
Speaker 3: over the show.
Speaker 4: First off, I don't and I'm only talking about this
Speaker 4: mcmon professionally. I'm not getting into no personal whatever's in
Speaker 4: the news, just him wrestling professionally. I think this McMahon
Speaker 4: obviously changed the game. He changed wrestling for what it
Speaker 4: is today. Now, this might be a little different than
Speaker 4: how most people feel wrestling could get worse or stay
Speaker 4: the same. I mean, I know everybody saying, yeah, triple ah, ooh,
Speaker 4: triple A, triple H is miss mac off the bismc
Speaker 4: Man treat technically, I mean Stefan Man, his daughter is
Speaker 4: running it. Will it be some difference, yes, But will
Speaker 4: wrestling improve just because of somebody else?
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say that. I mean, so, I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna go deep on that. I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 3: pretty breathe.
Speaker 4: Also, I'm gonna go the question you, Matt, if Roman
Speaker 4: had to lose the bill, would you rather go to
Speaker 4: Brock or would rather go to Theory.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even have to think about it to be theory.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not even that's not even like to
Speaker 2: me a thought in my mind. I mean, no theory.
Speaker 2: Would I want that choice? I wouldn't want it, but
Speaker 2: it's an easy decision given those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And last question before we move on, because I just
Speaker 4: want to put this out there for all the fans
Speaker 4: to hear your opinion on this.
Speaker 3: Do you think Live Morgan is credible? Honestly?
Speaker 2: Honestly no, I don't. Uh. I mean, if if you're
Speaker 2: gonna put a gun in my head, I don't. The
Speaker 2: reason I don't is she when she was facing Becky Lynch,
Speaker 2: she lost. When she got her Women's championship match, I
Speaker 2: think it was earlier this year, late last year, she
Speaker 2: was actually in the women's tyle picture, she lost several times.
Speaker 2: To Live Morgan, she barely does get victories, and when
Speaker 2: she does, it's only when they were putting her in
Speaker 2: place to win the money in the bank briefcase and
Speaker 2: then win the championship that night. Honestly, no, because when
Speaker 2: you look at her as champion, this isn't to say
Speaker 2: I don't like her or that she can't get credibility.
Speaker 2: But she spent ninety five percent of her career not
Speaker 2: feeling credible. She spent ninety five percent of her career
Speaker 2: and this is no fault of her own. A lot
Speaker 2: of it's creative, but she spent most of her career
Speaker 2: in the dark, where she is just a part of
Speaker 2: a group that WWE uses to elevate other women. She
Speaker 2: has been essentially an enhancement talent for most of her career.
Speaker 2: And then she wins the briefcase and she can cut
Speaker 2: a good promo. I do like that about her. But
Speaker 2: she suddenly wins the briefcase and then cash is in
Speaker 2: its the most opportune time where we're supposed to feel
Speaker 2: that that's a credible win. No, it's not. It's not
Speaker 2: a credible win, which is why that the match is
Speaker 2: designed for a heel. Most of the time, money the
Speaker 2: bank matches are designed for heels to win because you
Speaker 2: want to take advantage of somebody when they're at their weakest.
Speaker 2: That's what heels do. So when a babyface does it,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, okay, well that's the rules of the briefcase.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you're like, she's never won
Speaker 2: a championship, and if this is the only way she
Speaker 2: can win a championship is when somebody has already been
Speaker 2: beaten down and has an injury. That does kind of
Speaker 2: eat away at the credibility. So does she have no credibility? No,
Speaker 2: but she doesn't have enough to be champion. That's what
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean other than longevity. Okay, she's
Speaker 2: been there a while, right, Well, so it's Dana Brook.
Speaker 3: But and Our Truth. Yeah, I love Truth A whole
Speaker 3: lot more is Our Truth.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying. I don't want to get on attendent,
Speaker 2: but I just want to say quickly about Our Truth.
Speaker 2: If WWE ever really wanted to make him champion, I
Speaker 2: think they could do it. I mean, he I think
Speaker 2: is one of the most underutilized talent that ww has
Speaker 2: ever had. He is genuinely funny. They don't have to
Speaker 2: try to make him funny. He's actually a good dude.
Speaker 2: His story is a lot of fun to or really
Speaker 2: just amazing to watch. If you watch the twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven on Our Truth, it's awesome. He is a
Speaker 2: guy that you know you can respect or that you
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about from a pr perspective, and
Speaker 2: he has got an actual connection with the fans. The
Speaker 2: fans would go crazy if Our Truth ever won the championship.
Speaker 2: It'll never happen. But yeah, he's a missed opportunity. So
Speaker 2: all right, let's get into the actual card here, Summer
Speaker 2: Slam card as and again, guys, I want to preface
Speaker 2: this if you're listening to this after SmackDown that is
Speaker 2: going to air tomorrow night. That's at least when we
Speaker 2: record this. We have not seen any changes or modifications
Speaker 2: to what happened on SmackDown, if there are any last
Speaker 2: minute ones. We do know about the seth Rowlins and
Speaker 2: Riddle cancelations, so we can speculate about who Rolin's opponent is.
Speaker 2: But let's start with it, and let's see where do
Speaker 2: I want to start? That was my computer just froze
Speaker 2: because I got the latest card here and my computer
Speaker 2: FROs So hang on with you, guys, I am clicking
Speaker 2: on it now. I'm going to a different site. CBS
Speaker 2: Sports just kind of gave me. Ah, there we go. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Mysterios versus Finn Baler and Demian Priest no DQ match.
Speaker 2: Mister Cajuressling fan, what is your official prediction for this match?
Speaker 3: My official prediction goes to the judgment day. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm a.
Speaker 4: Big proponent of when Ed was in the group, That's
Speaker 4: when I feel like the group was on point fire.
Speaker 4: Since then, They've lost a lot of momentum, losing to
Speaker 4: the Mysterios several weeks in a row. I'm really not
Speaker 4: a big fan of Finn Balle even being the group.
Speaker 3: I don't really like the heel gimmick.
Speaker 4: Give me normal Fin or demon Fen, but this new
Speaker 4: heel fans not really doing it for me. I mean,
Speaker 4: Damion Priest has the boys he has to look, but
Speaker 4: I feel like he needs Edge. Three is back, which
Speaker 4: helps a lot, but the group without Edge lost a
Speaker 4: lot of steam. Was they was hot, I mean one
Speaker 4: hundred degrees when Edge was there, and then when they
Speaker 4: took Edge.
Speaker 3: Out of the group, everybody was like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: And they haven't even followed it up to make the
Speaker 3: group look as dominant. But I think they'll get to
Speaker 3: win over.
Speaker 4: The Masterios do the dom turning on Ray. Ray might
Speaker 4: be going for the hot.
Speaker 3: Tag and domb hopped off the apron chakes his head.
Speaker 4: No, you know, they beat down Ray and then Dom
Speaker 4: gives them the coer toe to finished the complete heel turn.
Speaker 3: So that's my prediction. What about you, man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's actually almost nearly identical to my pick.
Speaker 2: And here's what I'll say too, so first of all,
Speaker 2: let me just say, yes, Mysterios do lose here, and
Speaker 2: it is because of the Dominic turn. But if Dominic
Speaker 2: doesn't turn and they just flat out just lose to
Speaker 2: the Judgment Day, and you know there's also that scenario.
Speaker 2: I think one way or the other, the Masterials lose.
Speaker 2: But to me, if they don't do the dom turn here,
Speaker 2: they're never doing it. It's the perfect opportunity. Monday was
Speaker 2: also a perfect opportunity. It was raised anniversary. They're in
Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden, his whole family's there. What better way
Speaker 2: to turn on your father and ruin his entire night
Speaker 2: than turning on your dad and going to the dark side.
Speaker 2: It really just was a storyline that was missed. But
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity, of course at SummerSlam on a big stage,
Speaker 2: and I hope it is dom turning. It would instantly
Speaker 2: make him like a thousand times more interesting from a
Speaker 2: character perspective than he is now. And I think there's
Speaker 2: stuff you can pull from now. The other side of
Speaker 2: this is the Mysterials still lose. It's just a flat
Speaker 2: out loss to the Judgment Day and then they go
Speaker 2: for the beatdown. Both of them are about to get
Speaker 2: concertoed by you know, Finn and Damien and Rhea, and
Speaker 2: then Edge's music hits whatever music that's gonna be. He
Speaker 2: comes out to make the save, and that's what I
Speaker 2: think is gonna happen. So did you say that you
Speaker 2: think Edge is going to return in some form of
Speaker 2: fashion here too?
Speaker 4: I didn't say that when I would like that. Just
Speaker 4: maybe I just sound bad when I say this as
Speaker 4: a fan.
Speaker 3: I won't Edge back in the Crow. I don't care
Speaker 3: how to get back in the group. I give me anything.
Speaker 4: I warn him back as the leader of the crew.
Speaker 4: They lost so much team without him. They need Edge back,
Speaker 4: or maybe he needs to make his own faction. But
Speaker 4: the music isn't the same without Edge, you know it anyway.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so can we get an Edge surprised? Yes
Speaker 4: we could, And he could come in there to run
Speaker 4: in the fence to stop him from beating down.
Speaker 3: Ray and Dom. But I just want to see Dom turn.
Speaker 4: I'm tired of Dom and if he's not going to turn,
Speaker 4: and I don't know what's left for him.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what other what there
Speaker 2: is to do with Dominic. I mean, he doesn't look
Speaker 2: the part. He Seriously, I've said this, he looks like,
Speaker 2: you know, he's fresh off junior prom. He's got a
Speaker 2: young look. That doesn't it doesn't give him any advantage.
Speaker 2: He's got height, that's fine, but that also do that's
Speaker 2: not saying much standing next to Ray Mysterio, who's like
Speaker 2: five five or five six. But he you know, he
Speaker 2: needs facial hair, he needs muscle mass, he needs a character,
Speaker 2: he needs an actual like personality. I just want to
Speaker 2: shake him and be like, there's got to be something
Speaker 2: in there. And he just is just so bland and
Speaker 2: he's good in the ring, but he's living off the
Speaker 2: Mysterio name, and that's you know. I think there's more
Speaker 2: to this, and I hope they do this. But you're
Speaker 2: right about the judgment day about Edge, I have never
Speaker 2: seen a group feel like I feel like they have
Speaker 2: so much potential and they just slice the knees off
Speaker 2: of the whole group for seemingly no reason. I don't
Speaker 2: understand the need to do that. When Edge was on
Speaker 2: fire every single week and he was helping build stars
Speaker 2: and just as I'm like, all right, they're starting to
Speaker 2: get some nice momentum, I could see this being a
Speaker 2: group that's gonna last a year or year and a half,
Speaker 2: and boom, Edge gets ousted, where everyone's like, what the
Speaker 2: heck Like, that's they're gonna turn Edge back to a
Speaker 2: baby face. That's what it seems like. But I think
Speaker 2: there is a small possibility of Edge coming back and
Speaker 2: then rejoining where you think he's gonna get revenge and
Speaker 2: he's just like now he's like, thank you for beating
Speaker 2: the weakness out of me. I mean, it's possible. But
Speaker 2: any final thoughts on this before you move on, Just to.
Speaker 4: Say I did not like Edge as a baby place.
Speaker 4: You know, I come on here and I ran about Edge.
Speaker 4: I don't like it when he turned heel you got
Speaker 4: miscasurus something, So anything with it, just please make him heal,
Speaker 4: don't don't don't make it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear you think you know anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, that will happen before he
Speaker 2: truly hangs up the boots. I mean, that's that song.
Speaker 2: It'll happen probably at the tail end of his career
Speaker 2: when he truly does want to retire. That that is
Speaker 2: his iconic song. I mean, so, I think he'll eventually
Speaker 2: come full circle. But right now, heel edge. We didn't
Speaker 2: even get a chance to see it breathe. We saw
Speaker 2: hints of greatness. He cut his hair, he came out
Speaker 2: with the dark suits. He had cut awesome promos every week,
Speaker 2: helping build you know, the the younger stars, and it
Speaker 2: just makes no sense. So you're right. I hope it's
Speaker 2: a false babyface return where he edges back and everyone's
Speaker 2: cheering and you think he's gonna get revenge, and what
Speaker 2: he does is actually hit the concerto himself on randominic
Speaker 2: that I would love where you know, people think he's
Speaker 2: the White Knight and he's actually like a you know,
Speaker 2: a sheep wolf in sheep's clothing or something. So totally
Speaker 2: with you on that. How about Logan Paul versus the
Speaker 2: Miz probably the least interesting matchup on the entire card,
Speaker 2: but maybe you feel differently.
Speaker 3: I don't be honest. Obviously we know Logan pole Is.
Speaker 3: I want him. I wish they would have him. To
Speaker 3: me is beat together. I like the camaraderie together. He
Speaker 3: gets heat.
Speaker 4: Now picking the match, it's tough because loves they Hollywood people.
Speaker 3: To me is Ranley Wis.
Speaker 4: So I guess I go Logan Poule last night, I
Speaker 4: said to me, is unoff, But tonight we'll go Logan.
Speaker 2: It's not an easy one. You're right. I mean, here's
Speaker 2: the thing. I think WWE is going to have a
Speaker 2: real interesting time dealing with the crowd that's gonna absolutely
Speaker 2: crap all over this match. And I don't mean it
Speaker 2: in the way that's gonna They're gonna just they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to hijacket, but more of tel WWE who should
Speaker 2: be babyfacing heel because trying to get Logan Paul to
Speaker 2: be liked is really difficult. He's inherently a very unlikable person.
Speaker 2: He's a social media star, twenty some million subscribers on
Speaker 2: YouTube all the rest, millionaire and very successful athlete, all that,
Speaker 2: and that's great, but that's not relatable for ninety five
Speaker 2: percent of people. And he's got an arrogance about him
Speaker 2: and why he not being why they haven't turned in
Speaker 2: baby face or a heel makes no sense. They tried
Speaker 2: on raw at Madison Square Garden, and I think that
Speaker 2: was a foreshadowing of things to come at SummerSlam. I
Speaker 2: think SummerSlam it's gonna be like eighty twenty against Logan Paul.
Speaker 2: I think He's gonna get booted out of the building.
Speaker 2: I think Miss is gonna get cheered out of respect.
Speaker 2: Even though the Mis is a decent heel on the mic,
Speaker 2: he knows how to get a crowd angry. I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Logan Paul getting booed out of the building.
Speaker 2: Do you maybe maybe I'm wrong? Do you think the
Speaker 2: crowd is going to go along with the Logan Paul's
Speaker 2: a baby face?
Speaker 3: Okay, now I'll say this. They are having it here
Speaker 3: in Nashvield.
Speaker 4: Nashville is a very traditional rest in the city where
Speaker 4: they will boot heels and cheer.
Speaker 3: The face even if they don't agree with them.
Speaker 4: Even in this market, I still think Logan gets food.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't help what go for. The me
Speaker 4: is who's been there all the time.
Speaker 3: Now, when Logan comes out, he might initially get.
Speaker 4: A fix, But I think when the match happens, the
Speaker 4: crowd I told to be on the B side.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: I'm not a Mis fan, everyone knows that. But I
Speaker 2: do think there's a respect factor there. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you look at the whole celebrity factory, he is
Speaker 2: a celebrity, but he signed a long term contract. This
Speaker 2: isn't the typical celebrity come in for WrestleMania, make them
Speaker 2: look good, promote whatever movie or product that they have,
Speaker 2: and then they go away. That's that's not what Logan
Speaker 2: Paul is right now. He's actually signed a multi year
Speaker 2: deal with WWE, so he shouldn't get that celebrity typical
Speaker 2: like like force Field around him. And I also think
Speaker 2: that given the demo that's at major events like SummerSlam,
Speaker 2: you have the older crowd, you don't have typically a
Speaker 2: lot of families because it's number one, super expensive to
Speaker 2: bring your entire family with kids and everything to these events,
Speaker 2: and these events just I think are more attractive to
Speaker 2: the demo that's in you, your age group, my age group,
Speaker 2: and male. I think that's what it's going to be,
Speaker 2: which tells you that this crowd I don't think is
Speaker 2: going to really be on Logan Paul's side. I'm very
Speaker 2: interested to hear the reaction. I think Logan Paul is
Speaker 2: going to get destroyed, and rightfully so, because he should
Speaker 2: be a heel.
Speaker 3: So exactly, I hope he does. I'm right.
Speaker 4: I want the means to win hon my heart, you know,
Speaker 4: and I would boo Logan Paul from a you know,
Speaker 4: formal respect, you know. And maybe I don't know what
Speaker 4: they're gonna do with this, but this was them whatever
Speaker 4: idea was to make him face.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Well, they figured the Miz is somebody that can get anyone,
Speaker 2: get any crowd to boo him. But I think they're
Speaker 2: missing the fact that the demographic at SummerSlam and the
Speaker 2: fact that this this is a guy that's super unlikable,
Speaker 2: not relatable. They've kind of dismissed them or minimized those factors,
Speaker 2: and I think they shouldn't have. Oh but by the way, yeah,
Speaker 2: my pick is also Logan Paul. I think Logan Paul
Speaker 2: does win this. It's his debut one on one match,
Speaker 2: it's against the Miz. Miz can take any loss at
Speaker 2: this point in his career. So yeah, So you and
Speaker 2: I right now, crazily are on the same page. So
Speaker 2: far two for two. Logan Paul probably does win here.
Speaker 2: All right, now things get a little interesting. Bianca bell
Speaker 2: Air versus Becky Lynch for the Raw Women's Championship.
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can call it audible if you want
Speaker 5: me to go to I can if you want, all right,
Speaker 5: all right, I'll give you time to think, or at
Speaker 5: least you want, I'll give you my pick. I'll give
Speaker 5: you my pick, and then that'll give you time to think.
Speaker 5: So okay, this one's difficult, very difficult. And you said
Speaker 5: that you, I mean you actually looked through the Vegas odds,
Speaker 5: and the Vegas odds probably do favor Becky.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, ba al Bianca. Okay, well I'm going against
Speaker 2: the Vegas odds. Then I'm gonna say Becky Lynch regains
Speaker 2: the Women's Championship Number one. Bianca bel Air as a
Speaker 2: babyface is getting very boring, or not boring, frustrating, it's
Speaker 2: getting repetitive. I think they've squeezed all the juice out
Speaker 2: of her babyface character, at least this version of it
Speaker 2: that they can. And she hasn't done really much of
Speaker 2: anything since she became champion. She occasionally sits at ringside
Speaker 2: to watch matches. She's done that, like for four weeks
Speaker 2: in a row at one point, doesn't go on. Commentary
Speaker 2: says the same old slogan's over and over. She's the eest,
Speaker 2: the best, the fastest, the greatest, is strong, all that
Speaker 2: superheel by the way, and she doesn't really do much
Speaker 2: of anything. And this past week, Becky Lynch comes out,
Speaker 2: just comes out, and this is what a Babyface would do,
Speaker 2: and just starts beating the hell out of Bianca, no backup,
Speaker 2: just her and just starts brawling with Bianca. And that's
Speaker 2: to me the sign I think of a hit if
Speaker 2: you're looking for something of a double turn. Double turns aren't.
Speaker 3: Easy to do.
Speaker 2: They're very difficult to do. But I think the writing
Speaker 2: is on the wall here. Becky Lynch is somebody that
Speaker 2: no one really wanted to boo in the first place.
Speaker 2: She hasn't had a very successful heel run as much
Speaker 2: in terms of when you compare it to her Babyface run.
Speaker 2: I also think that the music they've used for Becky
Speaker 2: Lynch has contributed to the fact that they that the
Speaker 2: people don't want to boo, that it's such a Babyface
Speaker 2: song that you just it's like a Pavlovian response, like
Speaker 2: people want to cheer it, and she's easy to like.
Speaker 2: People gravitated towards her for that whole you know, Babyface run.
Speaker 2: They they the defans pretty much will Wwe forced them
Speaker 2: to put her in the main event and I think
Speaker 2: that Bianca Bellair again is much better suited to be
Speaker 2: a heel. Right now, there's arrogance on her that she's
Speaker 2: suppressed saying. And the last so my pick is Becky
Speaker 2: and the last thing I'll say, the last reason I
Speaker 2: think that they're going to do a double turn here
Speaker 2: is because they're gonna set up for Ronda Becky at
Speaker 2: WrestleMania and Ronda will be a heel. Hint hint in
Speaker 2: my pick later in the show that Becky and Ronda
Speaker 2: will finally finally have their one on one match at WrestleMania,
Speaker 2: with Becky as a babyface, Ronda as a heel as
Speaker 2: it should be, and they'll establish those roots at SummerSlam.
Speaker 2: So Becky Lynch is my pick. I hope I gave
Speaker 2: you enough time.
Speaker 4: I like, I like what you said, but maybe I'm
Speaker 4: on the other side. I like Vicky is a heel.
Speaker 4: I mean I hated her hero run.
Speaker 3: At first, just as a wrestling fan with a big
Speaker 3: Bickie fan.
Speaker 4: When she came back, she liked the he'll run, but
Speaker 4: Bicky has really I think hit.
Speaker 3: Her stride as a heel. Like she said, She's no
Speaker 3: little Blue choo Chi, you know, she really is.
Speaker 4: In that and I ain't trying to compare it because
Speaker 4: that's her, you know, her husband. But she's in that
Speaker 4: Jeth Robinson parole where she's doing great work. The fans
Speaker 4: like her, they respect the work she's doing. You know,
Speaker 4: she's on another level as far as Beyonca goes, you
Speaker 4: know she.
Speaker 3: I hate it because I do like Beyonca's gimmick.
Speaker 4: You know, she needs a lot of credit because for
Speaker 4: her to take her gimmick and make it face as
Speaker 4: you said, it's normally what heelsould say, and she puts
Speaker 4: a great face, you know, gimmick on it to make
Speaker 4: people cheer her. Now, I'm not a big proponent of
Speaker 4: the double turn. You know, I think they should leave
Speaker 4: Bicky Hill. I'm totally okay with hern and Beyonca Heill.
Speaker 4: You know, I would like to see that too, But
Speaker 4: so this, I guess gets to my pick. I think
Speaker 4: it'll stay where it's supposed to. It's gonna stay with Beyonca,
Speaker 4: she retains. I want to see Beyonca reea, you know,
Speaker 4: I think that's the match that I'm looking forward to
Speaker 4: now at Wresselmania, hoping next couple of pls let real
Speaker 4: take it off of Beyonca because right now Rihea needs
Speaker 4: to be established as that they're going with this Judgement
Speaker 4: Day group. So give me Bianca, maybe a heel turn
Speaker 4: for Beyonca, but leave Bicky heal.
Speaker 3: I love to heal Bicky. Hey, that's my two cents.
Speaker 2: One that Yeah, I mean I forgot about the Rea
Speaker 2: factor now that she's back, and they never got to that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do a Bianca heel Uh
Speaker 2: you know Rea heel matchup. You can't. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's a that's a that's probably the strongest argument
Speaker 2: to keep Bianca as champion is that we got to
Speaker 2: get Ria Bianca at some point. I mean, you could
Speaker 2: still do the matchup even if Beyonca's not the champion.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right. I think that's that's a strong case.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick by my guns and say Becky gains
Speaker 2: the championship. Bianca bel air, uh, you know is probably
Speaker 2: gonna get booed. I mean, even if the double turn
Speaker 2: isn't officially happening, you don't see it like very obviously.
Speaker 2: I think the crowd is going to not be super
Speaker 2: friendly with Bianca. It's probably gonna be a very very
Speaker 2: mixed crowd where it's like kind of fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: for both women. I don't think it's gonna be super
Speaker 2: strong pro Becky. I don't think it's gonna be super
Speaker 2: strong pro Rianka. There's gonna be dueling chance, I think
Speaker 2: throughout this matchup for both women, and so the crowd's
Speaker 2: gonna play a big role in this. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be split right down the middle. So all right, uh,
Speaker 2: let's talk Pat McAfee and Happy Corbin. Do you need
Speaker 2: an extra time on this one or do you think
Speaker 2: you have an idea of who's gonna win?
Speaker 4: Now we can go straight in on this one. Give
Speaker 4: me Pat Mac for the win. You know, Happy Corbin
Speaker 4: has been on.
Speaker 3: The down slide. I'm tired of the Happy Corban. Give me.
Speaker 3: I want to go back to bummy Bummy Corbyn, like
Speaker 3: I do. It was great to ketch up thing the
Speaker 3: Mustards Thain, you know, bumming for money and then being
Speaker 3: ungrateful when you get it. It was perfect.
Speaker 4: So I'm totally with him letting him lose out his
Speaker 4: money again and all his cars get repossessed. But I
Speaker 4: do think this would be a Pat Mac win because
Speaker 4: you know what's gonna happen. Pat Max's gonna go back
Speaker 4: to the boot happy, Corbyn's gonna go through whatever he
Speaker 4: needs to do.
Speaker 3: So put the win on bat Mac. That's Bob Pee.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I feel I'm gonna actually side with
Speaker 2: you on this one, but I'm not super confident. And
Speaker 2: the reason is because Corbin losing to an announcer is
Speaker 2: you know, it's not great for his career, but it
Speaker 2: could be an It could be a way to create
Speaker 2: a character change once again for for Corbin, who has
Speaker 2: gone through several iterations of his character. Uh, he's evolved
Speaker 2: and and and that's what you need to do. But
Speaker 2: I agree, if there's some way, if Pat wins and
Speaker 2: he beats Corbin, which by the way is my pick,
Speaker 2: I think that you could have Corbin go into a
Speaker 2: tailspin and somehow, you know, there's some there's some investigation
Speaker 2: being done with him where he there's unpaid taxes and
Speaker 2: then there's a there's a lawsuit by the I R
Speaker 2: S and then you know, he loses all of his money.
Speaker 2: You could just do something silly like that and Corbyn
Speaker 2: goes back to being to being the absolute bum. That
Speaker 2: was something I think they could have run with another
Speaker 2: few months because every week there's just something lower and
Speaker 2: lower that he was doing that was just embarrassing. Like
Speaker 2: first of all, him growing his hair out was hilarious.
Speaker 2: I mean his his hairline and everyone knew it. But
Speaker 2: he had to like think about this, he had to
Speaker 2: go through like airports like this. I mean maybe he
Speaker 2: wore a hat the whole time. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: like he that's commitment, and it was just the look
Speaker 2: was awesome. The disheveled white shirt that was just constantly
Speaker 2: a mess. The things they were doing like it was great,
Speaker 2: great TV. So if they could somehow get him back
Speaker 2: to being the bum sign me up. I don't care
Speaker 2: how they do it, but I think Pat McAfee gets
Speaker 2: the victory, and I think it'll be a decent match.
Speaker 2: You know, it'll be okay, it's not gonna be a
Speaker 2: match of the night. But Pat McAfee takes bumps. He's very,
Speaker 2: very free in that way. He kind of wrestles like
Speaker 2: Shane McMahon in a way where he's just you know,
Speaker 2: he'll sacrifice his body. He's not a great technical wrestler,
Speaker 2: but he takes bumps and he'll make the guy look good.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and he thoughts on that before we move
Speaker 2: up the card here.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, like you say, it's good, I think
Speaker 4: Pat going, he's gonna pull.
Speaker 3: It off, you know, put your money on Pat.
Speaker 2: Yep. All right, here we go, Here come the big
Speaker 2: money matches the USOS versus the Street Profits, undisputed WWE
Speaker 2: Tag Team Championship with special guest referee Jeff Jarrett. What
Speaker 2: are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: You're not gonna steal, Jeff, Jared.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to to. My brain didn't have the
Speaker 2: capacity because if I screwed it up, you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to say jay E don't like I, I
Speaker 2: probably would have messed up one of the letters. So
Speaker 2: I just said, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Jarrett, forgive me.
Speaker 4: Obviously, you the two's, we the ones, give me the USOS.
Speaker 4: You know, the Street Profits are great, and I do
Speaker 4: like the Street Profits. They do a great job. Montez
Speaker 4: Ford is the guy, but in this situation, I think
Speaker 4: you lead the billswey. I leave him on the USOS
Speaker 4: the bloodline. You know, I'm ready for some dissension in
Speaker 4: the Street Profits. I'm ready for montez Ford and and
Speaker 4: Angelo to get ready to break up.
Speaker 3: It's can cause a little attention. If we turn Beyonca heel,
Speaker 3: you can have her go by there say you better
Speaker 3: than him.
Speaker 4: Baby is to do your own thing and run like that.
Speaker 4: But here know what they are four years whoso's get
Speaker 4: the wing?
Speaker 3: Clean win?
Speaker 2: Oh? Clean clean? Oh that's that's.
Speaker 3: Key one one D one two three.
Speaker 2: Do you think this has the potential to be as
Speaker 2: good or better than their matchup money in the bank
Speaker 2: that was an absolute classic.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because I don't know if they have
Speaker 4: the time, you know what them they got a lot
Speaker 4: of matches and it's a big show. It's hard to
Speaker 4: follow up. Let's be honest, it's hard to follow up.
Speaker 4: I think it'll be good. I don't know if it'll
Speaker 4: be asked good. I don't think it'll be matching the night.
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be big beyond.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna counter this,
Speaker 2: and not just to be contrarian, but I do believe this.
Speaker 2: I would not put any money on this match. By
Speaker 2: the way, this money this match actually kind of scares
Speaker 2: me from like if I actually had real money on that,
Speaker 2: I would stay away. I'm gonna go with the Street Profits,
Speaker 2: but like fifty one forty nine, like I'm just tipping
Speaker 2: Street Profits. And the reason is you have Jeff Jarrett
Speaker 2: in this matchup. If this was any ill regular match,
Speaker 2: why are we creating special referees here. There's gotta be something,
Speaker 2: some reason Jeff Jarrett's in this match. Now. I know
Speaker 2: the narrative is, oh, well, you know Corbin or rec Corbin,
Speaker 2: we had montes Ford have his shoulder up, and then
Speaker 2: Jimmy or Jay which I forget which one had their
Speaker 2: shoulder up, and a matchup, and that's the referee missed it. Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, from a logical standpoint, if you have
Speaker 2: to bring in a guest referee, meaning somebody that's never
Speaker 2: done the job before, to just do the very basics
Speaker 2: of hey, making sure the guy's shoulders are on the
Speaker 2: mat before you start counting, that's not a great That's
Speaker 2: not a great look for WWE referee. You know, job
Speaker 2: performance okay, But they're bringing in Jeff Jarrett for a reason,
Speaker 2: and I think that Jeff will call it down the middle.
Speaker 2: They're not trying to set up an angle with Jeff
Speaker 2: to have a match with anybody, But I think that
Speaker 2: Jeff if Jarrett will play some kind of role that
Speaker 2: maybe a normal referee wouldn't it. I just don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what that is. But to me, it looks like
Speaker 2: the Street Profits will come away with the victory here,
Speaker 2: and because Jeff Jarrett maybe doesn't put up with any
Speaker 2: of the USO's crap, they're trying to cheat or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but to me, I agree. I'm with
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent that the USOS, or rather the
Speaker 2: Street Profits need to break up. And I want to
Speaker 2: see montes Ford go on a tear. I want to
Speaker 2: see him. I mean, he'll probably feud with Angelo Dawkins
Speaker 2: for a while when the split happens. Montes Ford is
Speaker 2: easily the biggest star that that one of the biggest
Speaker 2: stars that WW has in their pocket when they want
Speaker 2: to do it. But I think there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of juice left to squeeze out of the Street Profits
Speaker 2: as a tag team. I don't think they're totally done
Speaker 2: yet where people are totally sick and they're like, oh
Speaker 2: my God, get montes Ford out of there. They're starting
Speaker 2: to feel that way, but I don't think it's at
Speaker 2: a boiling point and really the tag team division as
Speaker 2: a whole is always thin just by default, and they're
Speaker 2: one of the few credible tag teams. So I think
Speaker 2: that you're gonna have the Street Profits win. Roman Reigns
Speaker 2: is going to lose his mind on SmackDown that he's
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're disrespecting the family and you know,
Speaker 2: all all that kind of thing. But you know, the
Speaker 2: usso's title reign isn't as important as Roman reigns his
Speaker 2: title reign, and we'll get to that. So I think
Speaker 2: the Street Profits win, and again not confident at all,
Speaker 2: but just enough to say the Street Profits will win.
Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be a really good match.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to live up to the
Speaker 2: Money in the Bank Classic, only because it's really really
Speaker 2: difficult to duplicate a match like that, where sometimes you
Speaker 2: just have to have all the ingredients come together just
Speaker 2: at the right time with the right people and have
Speaker 2: the right amount of time. I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be a B plus to a minus match, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna be I don't think wrestling wise, it's going to
Speaker 2: be a duplicate of Money in the Bank. So there
Speaker 2: you go, Street Profits win and.
Speaker 3: I think we just talked about Jeff Garre just might
Speaker 3: be wrong.
Speaker 4: From my perspective, I think they just added him in
Speaker 4: the match for two reasons. Number when he's from that
Speaker 4: hinters the field right outside of Nash Beet, so I
Speaker 4: think it's a ticket sale.
Speaker 3: And also he's gonna be going against.
Speaker 4: Uh Rick playing his last match, yeah, which is going
Speaker 4: to be crazy to see.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to see that. I'm
Speaker 2: so scared for Rick Flair, Like I'm just I.
Speaker 3: Want to get tickets. I mean, honestly, that's yeah, I go.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't never want.
Speaker 4: To you know, you hate to see the last greatest hits.
Speaker 4: But I mean if the man, I don't want to
Speaker 4: see him die. But it means if if it did happen,
Speaker 4: you want to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's I mean, I guess that's true. To talk
Speaker 2: about a silver lining, that's a silver lining. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: if he craps out, yeah yeah, I mean I was.
Speaker 3: I was in the crowd when it happened. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. You'll it's it's like you'll always
Speaker 2: remember where you were, you were, what you were doing
Speaker 2: that moment, right, I mean true, that is very true,
Speaker 2: you'll be there for his absolutely historic moment. So what
Speaker 2: did you do this weekend? I was in I was
Speaker 2: in the crowd. Rick Player dropped dead. Uh you know
Speaker 2: it's like so not gonna would Yeah no, no, you know,
Speaker 2: like I hope he puts on as a performance that
Speaker 2: it never won, as safe as it could possibly be
Speaker 2: and also one that isn't a complete degradation of his career.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be difficult to do. How old is
Speaker 2: Rick Flair?
Speaker 4: He's got he's what seventy's seventy three three? But I
Speaker 4: mean think about his move shit, he was just body
Speaker 4: lamp and tops and figure four.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, he wasn't doing four to fifty splashes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. Suicide dives. Yeah, so that's true. Yeah, his
Speaker 2: move set does lend itself to to somebody of that age.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna do it, I guess that's as safe
Speaker 2: as a move set as you can do. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's okay. Yeah, all right, Well if you do go,
Speaker 2: you know, get your cameras out, because you know, you
Speaker 2: never know. We wish we would do. I do wish
Speaker 2: Rick fro the absolute best I have to say, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'll be interested to watch it, and maybe I will.
Speaker 2: So all right, let's get to it. Three more matches
Speaker 2: and we'll be closing it out here. Bobby Lashley versus Theory,
Speaker 2: the United States Championship on the line. Who wins this.
Speaker 3: Y' all might fivey last.
Speaker 4: I think he retains the same reason as I picked
Speaker 4: for the last pl I just don't see it.
Speaker 3: Beating Bobby Clean.
Speaker 4: You know, I think Theory's gonna have a rough night.
Speaker 4: Not giving away my diictions for later, but I think
Speaker 4: Theory has a rough night.
Speaker 3: I think he lose to the Almighty. You know.
Speaker 4: That's all I got for y'all here. He is a
Speaker 4: great person, though, let me put that out there.
Speaker 3: Theory is great.
Speaker 4: Twenty four year old man out they're handling business. I
Speaker 4: think he's better than Randy Orton at this age. I mean,
Speaker 4: he and to not be a generational superstar. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: He can go on to Mike, he can have the
Speaker 4: crowd in the palm of his hands. He's in four
Speaker 4: different huge right now on two different shows, with the
Speaker 4: Championship being one of them, United States Championship being.
Speaker 3: The sickond one.
Speaker 4: Thus, Ziggler's getting clout just from hitting him, you know,
Speaker 4: and he's great, So you know, Theory he should be
Speaker 4: the young and up cover wrestl of the Year.
Speaker 3: Great gimmick, great guy, great attitude, and.
Speaker 4: You know, I've seen an interview with him outside of wrestling,
Speaker 4: and he's a really great guy.
Speaker 3: He's not that type of person in real life. He's genuine.
Speaker 3: He's not Eric in Nakaki.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a great person. So you know, Theory
Speaker 4: deserves it. But he's gonna lose this against all mic.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on this one. This is a more
Speaker 2: money safe match for those that urged it. I think
Speaker 2: that Lashly has got to be the heavy favorite here,
Speaker 2: uh and I think rightfully so. But Theory, I think
Speaker 2: is going to put up a good fight. He'll probably
Speaker 2: have a couple of moments to try to cheat to win.
Speaker 2: Lashly feels very comfortable as the United States Champion. It
Speaker 2: fits where he is right now. I'd still love to
Speaker 2: see him as actual, like on dispute a champion. I
Speaker 2: think he's capable of that. We've seen it. But if
Speaker 2: they're going to put him in a championship matchup and
Speaker 2: have him be champion, certainly the United States Championship is
Speaker 2: a nice place for Bobby. He just doesn't have a chance.
Speaker 2: They took him out of the United States Championship picture
Speaker 2: on purpose. They're not gonna give him the championship back
Speaker 2: and then have him also be mister money in the bank.
Speaker 2: It gets he gets too confusing. It feels like you
Speaker 2: don't have a direction for the character. And also like
Speaker 2: then where does Bobby go? Yeah, absolutely, Bobby Lashley retains here.
Speaker 2: Theory is gonna lose, and like you said, it could
Speaker 2: be a very rough night. I think we're on the
Speaker 2: same track there for the for the for that young man.
Speaker 2: But Theory is a guy is who is well ahead
Speaker 2: of his years. I mean he, like you said, the
Speaker 2: guy is better on the mic than the most of
Speaker 2: the roster. And that's talking about some even some guys
Speaker 2: that have been there five times as long as he has.
Speaker 2: He's got youth. He checks all the boxes of a
Speaker 2: guy that you'd want to build on in terms of
Speaker 2: a future WWE champion, a future main event of wrestle
Speaker 2: many he really has a you know, for all the
Speaker 2: crap we gave Vince about the segments with Austin Theory
Speaker 2: at the time in his office and the weird like
Speaker 2: five billion dollar egg that was on his at his
Speaker 2: desk at Survivors Series last year, and all this weird
Speaker 2: stuff he did with Theory basically degradating him in his
Speaker 2: office and all that. It was really a way to
Speaker 2: elevate him. And I kind of see why Vince did.
Speaker 2: The guy can talk, he's young, he looks the part.
Speaker 2: He like you said, I haven't seen many interviews outside
Speaker 2: of this, but I'll take your word for it. If
Speaker 2: he's a genuinely good guy. He does check every box.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So, Theory is a guy I think that is maybe
Speaker 2: probably in twenty twenty three, gonna be a future WWE champion.
Speaker 3: So yes, And one last thing about Theory, I love him.
Speaker 4: I cheer Theory, but it's great to see him get
Speaker 4: his answerable Yes. I mean when brock I'm not a
Speaker 4: brock fan, but when Brockley has some music here, I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, yes, yes, he's been a candidate.
Speaker 4: Miscu's rest fans like you cheering for Brock No, I'm
Speaker 4: cheering cause Theory he's gonna get five, two, three times Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's that's as good of a compliment as
Speaker 2: you can give a heel where you can respect how
Speaker 2: good he is, but you're not going to cheer him
Speaker 2: because he's a cool heel. You know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: sing along to his songs. I'm not gonna sing along
Speaker 2: and to his whatever his catchphrases. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: a town down or no like I want to see
Speaker 2: somebody beat his ass like that's a cop. That's his
Speaker 2: pig of a compliment as I can give the guy.
Speaker 2: So he's in a great space right now and he
Speaker 2: feels comfortable, doesn't feel like it's too much, too soon,
Speaker 2: it's it's amazing. So all right, Second to last match
Speaker 2: here Live Morgan versus Ronda Rousey SmackDown Women's Championship.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, a little damn lele.
Speaker 4: Well, this was tough for me too because I'm be
Speaker 4: honest people like Lee, But I got one hang up.
Speaker 4: I cannot see her beating Ronda Clean. That is my
Speaker 4: biggest hang up on the match. How does she beat
Speaker 4: Ronda Rousey clean? I don't see it. And unless she
Speaker 4: gets help from when heel.
Speaker 3: But even with.
Speaker 4: Bailey returning, she would return face. So you would need
Speaker 4: Ron to turn he feel somewhere in the match. Well,
Speaker 4: maybe you don't. I don't know, but I'm going with Rob,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's a tough pick for
Speaker 4: me because I know Liv has you know, a slight
Speaker 4: momentum from the universe, as they like to say.
Speaker 3: I just don't see a beating around the Clean. So
Speaker 3: give me Ron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say you're right one hundred percent about that.
Speaker 2: Where Live just I mean, there's just no way that
Speaker 2: they that anyone would believe that Live could beat Ronda
Speaker 2: Rowsey Clean. It's just which which is weird to say
Speaker 2: because usually that's what you'd say the other way around,
Speaker 2: where you shouldn't believe that a heel could beat a
Speaker 2: baby face clean. In this case, though, I think that Live,
Speaker 2: while she can't beat and shouldn't beat Ronda Clean, I
Speaker 2: think she somehow still hangs onto the belt. Now if
Speaker 2: she doesn't, Ronda Rowsey's gonna get Rona. Rolsey's probably gonna
Speaker 2: get boot out of the building anyway. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a very Logan Paul reaction for Rowsey. I
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be that dynamic. Ronda Rowsey's gonna get booed,
Speaker 2: and I think she's gonna get booed pretty pretty badly
Speaker 2: in this matchup. I mean, like probably ninety ten percent
Speaker 2: for her ninety against So that said, though, you know,
Speaker 2: if she's the de facto heel in this match, then
Speaker 2: you could have a returning Bailey. But you're right, how
Speaker 2: does she return as a babyface if Rond is not
Speaker 2: really a heel? It gets kind of weird. I think
Speaker 2: Charlotte could maybe show up. You haven't heard much about her.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe Charlotte comes back to exact her revenge
Speaker 2: against Ronda, but I don't think people want to see
Speaker 2: Ronda Rowsey and Charlotte again. So or maybe Live just
Speaker 2: lucks out and maybe she's just she gets kind of
Speaker 2: a fluke victory where you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: say count out or something like that, but I think
Speaker 2: that you could there's got to be a third party
Speaker 2: in this. This can't just be straight up. I think
Speaker 2: Bailey does actually return in this matchup to to distract Rowsey.
Speaker 2: We get to Live Morgan. She hits her oblivion, I
Speaker 2: think is her finish. She hits her finish, She pins
Speaker 2: Ronda because of the distraction from Bailey, And that's how
Speaker 2: it happens, because there's just no other way unless you're
Speaker 2: gonna have Live turnhill, which isn't happening.
Speaker 4: So that's bad that we're talking about a face champion
Speaker 4: that we don't think and beat somebody. Yeah, that shows
Speaker 4: the credibility. And last point, I feel like they're to
Speaker 4: be missed. They miss turning around the hill. They should
Speaker 4: have let Live cash in and let Ron the deal,
Speaker 4: but she put in an ankle.
Speaker 3: Lock should have let a win.
Speaker 4: The crowd would have totally crapped on Ron and they
Speaker 4: could have started her heel.
Speaker 2: Time always money. Yes, yes, I was waiting for them, like,
Speaker 2: oh that's right, there, do it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they missed it, but hey all.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah no, I'm with you. I saw it. I'm
Speaker 2: and I was waiting and I was like my party
Speaker 2: was like oh cool, Like I hate ron A Rousey's champion.
Speaker 2: But if if they do this right now and Ronda
Speaker 2: taps Live, the crowd's gonna lose it. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are you waiting for? And they didn't pull the trigger.
Speaker 2: They just had her shake her hand and it's like,
Speaker 2: what is this? So really, this whole program they on
Speaker 2: their promo and SmackDown is built on passion. Who has
Speaker 2: more passion like that's it. It's very bizarre. Uh So
Speaker 2: all right, let's get to it. The main event. Ron
Speaker 2: Roman reigns versus brock Lesner, Last Time, last match, Last
Speaker 2: man Standing. I gotta make sure I say it the
Speaker 2: right way. Uh, Last Man's Standing match for the undisputed
Speaker 2: WWE Universal Heavyweight twenty four to seven European Championship. What
Speaker 2: is your prediction on this one?
Speaker 3: I think of you.
Speaker 2: I think we've got it based on your your hints previously.
Speaker 3: But who wins? Hey?
Speaker 4: You know once again you detudes. We don't want Roman
Speaker 4: reigns everything. He's not gonna lose this Bill.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna lie you.
Speaker 4: Gad trips taken over could change the tradictory, but I
Speaker 4: don't think so. I think he's gonna be prop I
Speaker 4: think he gonna be Drew and class at the Castle.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be Randy when he comes back.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be whoever they put in front.
Speaker 3: Of him until next years wrestle might. I don't think
Speaker 3: no Bill comes off of him.
Speaker 4: I think they keep both the bulls on him. He stays,
Speaker 4: you know, understood the champion.
Speaker 3: I know everybody says I.
Speaker 4: Hate it for one of the bells off for guess what,
Speaker 4: deal with it. The Patriots was champion for years.
Speaker 3: Deal with it.
Speaker 4: The Yankees, deal with it. It's part of life. Rick
Speaker 4: Flatt was champion for three years, lost the bell for
Speaker 4: three months, and got it back for two more years.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Mont, You know it, was champion for seven years, lost
Speaker 4: the bell for a couple of years, and got it back.
Speaker 3: For five more.
Speaker 4: Is that's how it goes. And mister kassa wrestling fan world,
Speaker 4: I would have him lose the belt that next year
Speaker 4: Summer Slam, come back at the Royal and win it
Speaker 4: again at twenty twenty four US Mainium be champ for.
Speaker 3: Two more years. People, But deal with it. That that's
Speaker 3: the point of your champion. That's credibility. You didn't We
Speaker 3: don't change belt every three months, you know. So my
Speaker 3: money is on Roman. You know, Brock. This could be
Speaker 3: his last match. They're saying last is last match. This
Speaker 3: could be his last patch, so tune in. I think
Speaker 3: Theory does cash in.
Speaker 4: That'll be funny to see him beat up Theory during
Speaker 4: the match with some comic relief during it. But I
Speaker 4: think at the end, which is kind of crazy to
Speaker 4: see Brock lose a last man standing matter that he
Speaker 4: has to be knocked out for ten seconds, but get
Speaker 4: ready to watch him.
Speaker 2: Do you think Ziggler shows up? How does theory fail
Speaker 2: in the cash hen?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 2: What what happens there?
Speaker 4: I think he just comes in during the middle of match,
Speaker 4: and I honestly, I think Roman and Brons stop fighting
Speaker 4: each other and to start beating him up, which would
Speaker 4: be very fun of.
Speaker 3: The crowd would love it.
Speaker 4: Bron hits his lf o, Roman hiss the spear like
Speaker 4: they're trying to prove who's finishing is the worst.
Speaker 3: You know, you can get a little comic.
Speaker 4: Then they throwing my d rant, get back to fighting,
Speaker 4: and he comes back in and do it again.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's how high funny. You know?
Speaker 4: Now you might see Dolph Ziggler during the Bobby Theory patch.
Speaker 4: You know that could happen. But that's my that's my prediction.
Speaker 3: Roman reigns entertained. What do you get?
Speaker 2: So, I'm also of the belief that Roman Reigns retains.
Speaker 2: The crowd's gonna, I mean, the crowd's gonna be really
Speaker 2: pissed about that, because this is a big stage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and people are gonna be. But here's here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think people are getting pissed more at Creative, not
Speaker 2: necessarily at the character Roman rains. I think they're getting
Speaker 2: pissed at Creative and they feel that the Monday Night
Speaker 2: Raw roster, the men's roster, is getting negatively affected by
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns holding both belts when he shows up one
Speaker 2: out of every three shows wrestled for the first time
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Ross since September of last year, only
Speaker 2: because it's Madison Square Garden. You know, he's beyond an
Speaker 2: absentee champion at this point and people are just tired
Speaker 2: of that. I think if he was at least here
Speaker 2: every other week and you know that kind of thing,
Speaker 2: it's just a problem that's compounding for a lot of fans. So,
Speaker 2: but that said, I think Roman Reigns retains. I expect
Speaker 2: a very violent match, a lot of you know, hard
Speaker 2: hitting chair shots and you know, steel steps and going
Speaker 2: through announced tables and ladders. Maybe who knows, and at
Speaker 2: the end of it, Roman Reigns retains. Do I think
Speaker 2: it's clean, Yeah, I do. I think it is clean,
Speaker 2: and I think Brocklesner goes away maybe until next year's WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: I don't think we see brock Lesner for quite some
Speaker 2: time after this, if ever, because his friend in Vince
Speaker 2: McMahon is obviously no longer with the organization, so probably
Speaker 2: Brocklesner goes away. I'd imagine Roman Reigns does beat him
Speaker 2: somewhat clean, but the USOS are also a wild card.
Speaker 2: Given this is an under this is a no DQ match,
Speaker 2: I think that the USOS will have some say in this,
Speaker 2: but I also believe that Theory will try to cash in.
Speaker 2: I think that Theory probably has a failed cash in,
Speaker 2: but doesn't actually cash in the briefcase. So where he's about,
Speaker 2: he's going to try to cash in when both guys
Speaker 2: are down and he hands it to the referee, and
Speaker 2: in exchange between him handing the briefcase to the referee
Speaker 2: and the bell ringing, he gets spirit or F five.
Speaker 2: Therefore the match never really started and he keeps the briefcase.
Speaker 2: But he's also not capable of actually cashing in, so
Speaker 2: they kind of get the best of both worlds, where
Speaker 2: he keeps the champ, it keeps the briefcase, but also
Speaker 2: it doesn't cash in because he's not capable of it
Speaker 2: because Brock f five to him or something before the
Speaker 2: bell rang for his cash in. So but the one
Speaker 2: thing that I will say, I would give it like
Speaker 2: a two out of ten chance that at the end
Speaker 2: of this where Roman Reigns is holding his championship up high,
Speaker 2: the crowd is booing that, and this is this is
Speaker 2: something I'd give a small chance of. Is the Rock
Speaker 2: coming out and not doing anything as far as physical,
Speaker 2: just staring at him and having a face off, and
Speaker 2: then we don't see the Rock for a while until
Speaker 2: obviously they have a close we get closer to WrestleMania
Speaker 2: thirty nine. I think that's possible of the Rock coming
Speaker 2: out just to set the table, so to speak, for
Speaker 2: the WrestleMania thirty nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 4: Let me hear one of your points, because I've been
Speaker 4: talking about phoinicky wrestling fans for the past couple of days.
Speaker 4: Quick Ran wrestling fans are your finicky listeners, your finicky
Speaker 4: you wish you wash it. Last year people are saying, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm tired of Roman Raine saying insert city here, acknowledge me,
Speaker 4: Roman rains leaves.
Speaker 3: Oh now, we don't even get Roman Rans.
Speaker 4: They won't come to my city. Pap Roman Rings number
Speaker 4: one merchandise. So still every time you can see the shows,
Speaker 4: it's floodline apparel everywhere. When he goes to the shows,
Speaker 4: tickets sell out, raisings through the roofs. You tune in
Speaker 4: for Roman, They getting what they want. That's what your
Speaker 4: champion's supposed to do. He's supposed to be a draw.
Speaker 4: This is more And yes, it irritates some fans to say, well,
Speaker 4: we don't see him all the time, but guess what
Speaker 4: when you do see him as special like a champion
Speaker 4: supposed to be. Now what I like to see Romans
Speaker 4: say in certain city here, acknowledge me every time Friday
Speaker 4: and Monday. Yes, but guess what, it's okay just acknowledge
Speaker 4: him when he tells you to.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm fully on the Roman Range train. You know.
Speaker 4: I like what he's doing. It does suck that he's
Speaker 4: not around as much. But like I said, when you
Speaker 4: see him as special the MHG Show, you got to
Speaker 4: see him three times.
Speaker 3: When the last time you seen.
Speaker 4: Roman Range three times and get the wrestle once, I
Speaker 4: mean that never happens. You know, had in his last
Speaker 4: two matches been on free TV against Real Lansmackdown against
Speaker 4: the Trip of the six Man Tag on Raw. So
Speaker 4: you're even getting free opportunities to see your champion, appreciate
Speaker 4: what you do, what he does, acknowledge him when he
Speaker 4: comes out, put you once in the air.
Speaker 3: And that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 4: If you don't want Roman champion anymore, you want to
Speaker 4: pull the belt off of him and stop buying this stuff.
Speaker 4: You stop buying this stuff, don't buy his shirt. If
Speaker 4: FW's not making money off of him, trust they put.
Speaker 3: A built off of you.
Speaker 4: But as long as he's still selling out, you're gonna
Speaker 4: see Roman Reins hold both build.
Speaker 2: Yeah, merchandise sales, which is why the New Day's still together.
Speaker 2: Somehow they're there. They must be profitable from you know,
Speaker 2: a children's perspective, because yeah, they continue to be a
Speaker 2: group eight years later, which is just infuriating. But I
Speaker 2: think that Roman Reigns definitely is. And the thing is
Speaker 2: with Roman Reigns, people look at him as you know,
Speaker 2: he's holding this belt hostage. And I understand that people
Speaker 2: you know that that that's that's the point of Roman rains.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to piss you off. And people are saying, oh,
Speaker 2: he's here too much, now he's not here enough, and
Speaker 2: you're never gonna make anybody happy. It's just in WW
Speaker 2: knows this that that's the way fans are. But I
Speaker 2: also think that you could kind of have your cake
Speaker 2: and eat it too here where you could still have him.
Speaker 2: And I know you said no to this, but you
Speaker 2: could have him take the WWE championship and you could
Speaker 2: have him somehow. I don't even know how or care honestly,
Speaker 2: how they would do it, which is just how just
Speaker 2: get it there is, put the belt back on Raw,
Speaker 2: give Raw a champion. I mean, right now, they don't
Speaker 2: have a championship to compete for. And if they're not
Speaker 2: going to take the belt off of Roman until WrestleMania
Speaker 2: or beyond that, then you know, Raw is just kind
Speaker 2: of sitting high and dry. Unless they also don't do
Speaker 2: the brand split this year, If they don't do the draft,
Speaker 2: which essentially has been dead for many months anyway, with
Speaker 2: people constantly crossing over for with no reason, no explanation,
Speaker 2: it's not even acknowledged anymore, then then find that okay,
Speaker 2: you have one championship for the one brand, you don't
Speaker 2: have a brand split. Then I would understand a little
Speaker 2: bit more, but I think it's just more of that.
Speaker 2: Now they're negatively affecting other guys. It's not just about
Speaker 2: Roman and his story, which has been very good. It's
Speaker 2: now hurting the career of Seth Rollins or Kevin Owens
Speaker 2: or whoever else wants to compete for that championship with
Speaker 2: Roman is there, you know, one out of every three
Speaker 2: smackdowns in every other pay per view, And I.
Speaker 4: Can understand that, but once again, if they get rid
Speaker 4: of the Bland split, what will people say if it's
Speaker 4: no more brand split. If you if it's one championship
Speaker 4: for all you in the same boat, and then you
Speaker 4: can't take the belt off of.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like, I understand the state, well, give Raw a championship,
Speaker 4: but RALL.
Speaker 3: Hadn't had a champion.
Speaker 4: Let's be honest, bro hadn't had a champion since January
Speaker 4: since Big E. They put it on bro They put
Speaker 4: it on Bobby for two weeks and put it right
Speaker 4: back on Bron and Brock came to what one Raw
Speaker 4: before Russelemania. So this has been a problem for RONG
Speaker 4: before Roman reigns.
Speaker 3: I'm happy with it, and I can't see why people ain't.
Speaker 4: But I don't think that Seth Ronalds would be champion
Speaker 4: if the championship was on Rock. I don't think Ko
Speaker 4: will be the champion of championship was on Raw. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think. No, God it
Speaker 4: needs the elevation right now, would be champion on rauh
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm kind.
Speaker 3: Of okay, But I wish Cody was there. Cody was there,
Speaker 3: I'd be saying, yeah for the championship, Cody hold.
Speaker 2: Right now, I hear you.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I think that with the Roman Rags storyline, like they've
Speaker 2: made their point. I mean, how much him being champion
Speaker 2: for now seven hundred days or seventeen hundred days, they've
Speaker 2: kind of done everything they can do with it. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's like, okay, point made, this is a
Speaker 2: historic run. Cool. Yeah we are, Yes, we want to
Speaker 2: see people beat up Roman reigns. That's how we should feel,
Speaker 2: and so they've done that. But at some point there's
Speaker 2: got to be a breaking point where Roman runs through
Speaker 2: everyone he could possibly run through, unless you're gonna cycle
Speaker 2: back and do everyone again. I mean, it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like they've done almost everything they can do with
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns. It's it's reached the point where, okay, can
Speaker 2: we give it to somebody, and also we can actually
Speaker 2: have championship matches on pay per views, and right now
Speaker 2: I think it's actually got it. While it was a
Speaker 2: big positive for a while, it's actually a net negative now.
Speaker 2: Even though Roman Reigns is champion. I get why. There
Speaker 2: are massive benefits to that, there also are a bunch
Speaker 2: of like half the roster is being completely hijacked by
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns and his w w's decision to put both
Speaker 2: belt on both belts on Roman and then taking them
Speaker 2: and essentially sitting at home since wrestling, he's defended it
Speaker 2: once since WrestleMania. It's amazing.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, one, you're right, and I agree, but also
Speaker 4: let's look at the glass half fool. It's given other
Speaker 4: guys a chance to shine. You're getting tag team matches
Speaker 4: as main events, you're getting US championship matches or by
Speaker 4: the last main events, you're getting to see theory more.
Speaker 4: It's putting a lot of more gas in better positions
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't be otherwise. I don't think I don't
Speaker 4: think that it's actually hurting anybody to not be.
Speaker 3: Champion right now.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's nobody who deserves to be champion
Speaker 4: on Raw to a point where they need to build.
Speaker 3: You know, a champ.
Speaker 4: This is what a champion is supposed to be. And
Speaker 4: I think, like I said, that's the biggest problem. You
Speaker 4: see women's championship change hands a lot. Bicky held it
Speaker 4: for a while and so to Charlotte. But Roman is
Speaker 4: giving you a championship run. Yes, it's making fans, you know,
Speaker 4: irritated because all man, he's got the.
Speaker 3: Raw belt to get a brall bill back. But guess
Speaker 3: what he wants that too.
Speaker 4: He wants all eyes on Roman rans and if they
Speaker 4: get rid of the brand split, it'll really be a
Speaker 4: non starter. I think you really would be sick and saying,
Speaker 4: oh we never get the built off book.
Speaker 3: Now. I agree. I see all your fans on you.
Speaker 3: Let you listen to advice that mister casshrestla fan.
Speaker 4: Trust me, I get where you're coming from. I remember
Speaker 4: JBL being champion.
Speaker 3: I couldn't stand JBA and that that hurt me.
Speaker 4: So if you don't like Roman champion, I totally get
Speaker 4: how this can infuriate you and just say, God.
Speaker 3: Get it over with.
Speaker 4: But guess what, it's a lighted in the tunnel, bro,
Speaker 4: We're not gonna be champion for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah Vince was still here, maybe yeah, so maybe.
Speaker 3: You know, but you know, with Timple H's coming in,
Speaker 3: it could be a change in direction. Maybe they pull
Speaker 3: both build top or room.
Speaker 4: Maybe a thousand days isn't as an important anymore without
Speaker 4: Pa who knows. But if it was up to miscasteralist playing,
Speaker 4: he'd be championing this damn next year.
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, hearing that probably just sent shivers
Speaker 2: down everyone's fine. Just imagine Roman a year from now
Speaker 2: still champion. That's a that's a hard pill to swallow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I understand, you know, I get it. And the
Speaker 2: thing is, we'll never we'll never know really what Vince
Speaker 2: had planned and what Triple H is changing and what
Speaker 2: he's not or maybe the storylines that Vince continued he's
Speaker 2: gonna just see them through, or he's changed. We won't
Speaker 2: know because we don't know what Vince's original plans were
Speaker 2: versus what Triple H wants to do or you know,
Speaker 2: we don't know, so everything, even though he's a head
Speaker 2: of creative Maybe he's just adopting what Vince wanted to
Speaker 2: do and he's going to continue to do it. Who knows,
Speaker 2: you know, But uh, look, Roman Reigns is champion is
Speaker 2: probably going to be the case, at least through a
Speaker 2: thousand days. I hate, I know people don't want to
Speaker 2: hear that, but there's seventy some percent of the way there.
Speaker 2: There are well exactly seventy percent of the way there
Speaker 2: as of Sunday, they will be exactly seventy percent. You
Speaker 2: don't think they're just going to go the extra thirty
Speaker 2: percent and get to a thousand days. They're going to
Speaker 2: get there, and I know people are gonna lose their minds,
Speaker 2: but it's going to happen. Now. Well, before I get
Speaker 2: to one last thing, I want to ask you, do
Speaker 2: you have anything else that you want to say about
Speaker 2: the Roman Reigns brock Lessler matchup really quickly?
Speaker 4: If they're getting to Roman Reigns holding the bill a
Speaker 4: thousand days, he.
Speaker 3: Has to be champion this time next year.
Speaker 2: So cute ready, Yeah, I'm not gonna be.
Speaker 3: Yeah you.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah that's very true. All right, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna eat those words. But I could see WWE doing
Speaker 2: it because they love themselves some round numbers, and when, really,
Speaker 2: when is the next time you're gonna have this opportunity
Speaker 2: to even talk about a thousand day champion. You're never
Speaker 2: gonna have this opportunity again, at least, I don't think
Speaker 2: in the modern era fans don't have the patience for it.
Speaker 2: Somebody like this, like Roman reigns, like the run he's had,
Speaker 2: comes along once in a generation. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 2: a generational star like Stone Cold or The Rock. He's
Speaker 2: not quite that, but in terms of being able to
Speaker 2: put it on somebody that you can trust and it
Speaker 2: feels right and he's on a hell of a run,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have this opportunity again. So I think
Speaker 2: they're looking at it as we either do it now
Speaker 2: with a thousand day run, or we don't maybe ever
Speaker 2: get this opportunity again for you know, ten years, twenty years.
Speaker 3: Uh So he might retire after this thing that Roman
Speaker 3: lost this time next year and retired, just hung it
Speaker 3: up and see it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't know m hm, yeah it this will go down,
Speaker 2: you know, once he drops the bell. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: sure they're doing you know, documentaries and filming crews and
Speaker 2: all that they should because this is a historic run
Speaker 2: absolutely and and and there will be eventually some massive
Speaker 2: documentary uh done on this run with Roman reigns and
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes stuff and and Romans comments on it.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do, like you know, day one hundred, day
Speaker 2: two hundred three or four five, six ofven. You know,
Speaker 2: they could do a nice documentary on this. So all right,
Speaker 2: let's uh, I gotta ask you one more thing. A
Speaker 2: match that's not even on the card because it's it
Speaker 2: was taken off Riddle and Seth canceled. And the reason
Speaker 2: that we're going to be given is because Riddle was
Speaker 2: injured from the attack from Seth on Raw, which is
Speaker 2: a ca FA, it's not real, but that will be
Speaker 2: the reason we're given. So h that said, with Rollins,
Speaker 2: supposedly now it's not confirmed here on the on the card,
Speaker 2: but if Rollins does have somebody that he's going to
Speaker 2: face at SummerSlam, or he has some kind of impact,
Speaker 2: he has to show up at SummerSlam. It'd be really
Speaker 2: disappointing if he doesn't. What does he do or who
Speaker 2: does he face?
Speaker 3: Go out? Good question?
Speaker 4: Yeah, first, I don't know why they took the match
Speaker 4: off the card.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think they was going in code. I think
Speaker 4: they had a good storyline leading up. I was gonna
Speaker 4: choose Riddle to win, you know. I thought they would
Speaker 4: have been a good spot to put it Riddle over.
Speaker 4: I don't know who they even let in face. I
Speaker 4: don't know where Randy Wharton is with his injuries. Supposedly
Speaker 4: that would be a great candidate for me and probably
Speaker 4: be my number one candidate. And Randy Warten came out
Speaker 4: to the facing forget reddle it's Randy. But outside of Randy,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't it don't make sense for Edge,
Speaker 4: it don't make sense for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: KO don't make sense.
Speaker 2: Cody, Yeah, I was thinking the only thing and I know, Cody,
Speaker 2: I know. But here's the thing, Cody, I still don't
Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen. But given the fact that he
Speaker 2: was able to compete with that injury, I don't think
Speaker 2: he'd be stupid enough to risk it if it wasn't safe.
Speaker 2: I would hope, but but wwe. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of times overinflates what they tell fans about the injury,
Speaker 2: recovery time and They purposefully do that because when the
Speaker 2: star comes back earlier, it's more of a surprise. It
Speaker 2: makes them look like they're superhuman. Like, you know, we
Speaker 2: said he was gonna be out for nine months and
Speaker 2: he's back in four when in reality the recovery time
Speaker 2: was three to four months. You know, that's probably what
Speaker 2: the doctor's saying.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I don't know exactly what was
Speaker 2: done on Cody. I don't know exactly the diagnosis. I
Speaker 2: wasn't the one doing the surgery. I am not the
Speaker 2: one advising him of the recovery time. But I think
Speaker 2: there's a small chance because they wouldn't cancel this match
Speaker 2: with Riddle and Monday Night Raw on the go home
Speaker 2: show to Summer Slam and then cancel this match if
Speaker 2: they didn't have a really big reason for it. And
Speaker 2: could it be Cody Rhoads really small chance if some miracle,
Speaker 2: he's actually okay to compete, or at least confront Seth,
Speaker 2: if he comes out for a promo. Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: we have Cody Rhades show up in some capacity. I
Speaker 2: think that's possible. Maybe they don't fight, but he confronts them, uh,
Speaker 2: Or we have Randy like you said, I think Randy's
Speaker 2: closer than closer than Cody Roads is to returning. But
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine Summer Slam with Seth not on it,
Speaker 2: and you know, purposefully having this match canceled just to
Speaker 2: have set Set at home.
Speaker 4: I'll say this, if it's Cody, I'm here for. I'd
Speaker 4: love to see Cody. I hope how long has the been.
Speaker 4: It's been with three months? It was helen to sell
Speaker 4: it was that two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah right in three months? Well, oh
Speaker 3: these two is kind of closer two months. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, if he could come back on forward, even
Speaker 4: in the promo capacity, I love to see it.
Speaker 3: Cody Road, that's my favorite paper base.
Speaker 4: He's great, feel bad for. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 4: Seth is always in the background.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I hear people saying put him in a triple threat
Speaker 4: match with Rock and Roman, but I don't want to
Speaker 4: see that. I won't Seth to have his own path.
Speaker 4: But I think Seth and Riddle would have had a
Speaker 4: great match. I mean, they both do really good together.
Speaker 4: But if it ain't Riddle, if it ain't Randy, you
Speaker 4: me Cody, I take.
Speaker 2: Cod I think the more that I talk about it.
Speaker 2: I think what will happen is we get Seth coming out,
Speaker 2: maybe not in a match, and again, guys, maybe it's
Speaker 2: announced on SmackDown or something that Rollins does have a
Speaker 2: mystery opponent on at the event. And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: then obviously we're totally wrong here, or at least what
Speaker 2: my prediction is is totally wrong that we have Rollins
Speaker 2: come out if he doesn't have a schedule match. He
Speaker 2: comes out, he starts running in his mouth about how
Speaker 2: he injured Riddle, he does his laugh, the people sing
Speaker 2: along to his music. He's dressed ridiculously, which I love
Speaker 2: his outfits. And then we have Cody Rhoades's music hit
Speaker 2: and he comes out and you know, in a sling
Speaker 2: and you know there's no physicality, but he cuts a
Speaker 2: scathing promo on Seth about when he's back what he's
Speaker 2: going to do to him. Cody Rhoads is very capable of,
Speaker 2: you know, verbally sparring with the best of them, and
Speaker 2: I think that that's possible where there's no physicality, given
Speaker 2: that Cody can't do anything, but there's a way to
Speaker 2: set up a match that can could happen at Rumble
Speaker 2: or the way all the way to wrestle Mania. I
Speaker 2: think there's there's something that you could do there, you know,
Speaker 2: But that's my thought.
Speaker 3: As long as it's not Ezekiel lives.
Speaker 2: Oh God, please, that's the only victory Seth is gotten lately.
Speaker 2: Is over is Ezekiel. I mean it's amazing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and when they did their last thing, that
Speaker 3: was cool.
Speaker 4: But yes, now I'll take Cody, I'll take Randy outside
Speaker 4: of it. I don't know who you put Againstiff, Like
Speaker 4: you said, I start him coming out and his talking
Speaker 4: prayp and I love his song, so I'm saying along too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think unintentionally it's a sing along song. I mean,
Speaker 2: the fans just gravitated to it as a heel. You
Speaker 2: don't want people to sing along to your stuff. They
Speaker 2: shouldn't be, you know, doing the nursery rhymes with you.
Speaker 2: It just shouldn't happen. But it's something that I think
Speaker 2: when if Seth it returns babyface this this song is
Speaker 2: gonna explode. Already has. But so beyond everything that we've
Speaker 2: talked about, is there anything SummerSlam wise that you wanted
Speaker 2: to bring up that could happen? What happens should happen.
Speaker 4: How about I asked you to go a question for you,
Speaker 4: who do you think surprises at Thomaslam by they any
Speaker 4: surpris eperis I know you said possibly to Rock Bailey, Yeah,
Speaker 4: anybody else?
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean so, in terms of returns, big returns,
Speaker 2: big surprises, here's the order in which I think the
Speaker 2: likelihood of each return will happen. I think Edge is
Speaker 2: almost a guarantee. I'd say like a ninety percent chance
Speaker 2: of Edge returning, maybe even higher than that. I think
Speaker 2: Edge is if you're going to talk about returns, Edge
Speaker 2: is at the top of the possibility list. I think
Speaker 2: Bailey is a next chance of coming back. I'd give
Speaker 2: her like fifty percent fifty to fifty that she returns
Speaker 2: at SummerSlam. Then I would give Charlotte maybe like a
Speaker 2: forty percent chance of returning at at SummerSlam. I give
Speaker 2: Randy Orton maybe like a twenty five percent chance of returning,
Speaker 2: and then I'd give the Rock like a you know,
Speaker 2: ten to twenty percent chance of returning to confront Roman
Speaker 2: Reigns to set up WrestleMania thirty nine. So outside of that,
Speaker 2: I don't know who else could possibly be returning from
Speaker 2: an injury standpoint or a debut standpoint.
Speaker 3: I just you know.
Speaker 2: Oh and Cody Roads. I'd give Cody Rhoads like a
Speaker 2: thirty percent chance of coming out if Seth Rollins doesn't
Speaker 2: have a scheduled match. So what about you.
Speaker 3: It's fun. It's fun to have if we're still talking
Speaker 3: about The Rock. I mean years later, we've been forever,
Speaker 3: we've been dissing The Rock coming back.
Speaker 4: Oh Lord, twenty twenty one, and then we said, okay,
Speaker 4: now we're out of COVID, he's coming back for real.
Speaker 3: Now we're in the stadium.
Speaker 2: One of these times we have to be right. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like we keep to predicting it. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: right at some point.
Speaker 3: He broke blocked right twice a day. That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean I'm in the boat with your pigs.
Speaker 3: Age. Yeah, I think Age is a big pick to
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny we to see no being yet
Speaker 4: for him this week though. That's what we'll say that
Speaker 4: and maybe they give us one on SmackDown. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Edge Hound that at Bailey Hound that it's.
Speaker 3: Hard with Sharwott because you know she's gonna be in
Speaker 3: town anyway, But I don't see them.
Speaker 4: She's not gonna interfere in the leave man because Aaron
Speaker 4: Ronda they went twice already or three times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I don't want to see that in
Speaker 3: the more so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Bailey, Hot Chance, Edge, hat Chance Rock
Speaker 4: one percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it's that for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think of anybody else's possibly returning. And
Speaker 2: you know, if I was to be just a common sense,
Speaker 2: most likely what's gonna happen, you'll just have an Edge return, uh,
Speaker 2: And and probably no others, you know, But I hope
Speaker 2: that WWE has a few tricks up their sleeve. They
Speaker 2: do have a few other returns in mind. And do
Speaker 2: I think all of these are gonna happen. No, I'd
Speaker 2: give again, like two out of the five that I
Speaker 2: just gave you are are gonna happen. Uh. And I
Speaker 2: think that Edge and Bailey are at the top of
Speaker 2: that list. So all right, well, very very good. I
Speaker 2: think this is a lot of fun. You and I
Speaker 2: need our need our sleep now because we are both
Speaker 2: tired from our day of work and family and everything else.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's August. It's bizarre. I think
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Speaker 2: E Oh I did get something on that. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: Yes? All right? All right? Cool?
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