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<v Speaker 1>Beg you, ladies and gentlemen, for checking out going deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show

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<v Speaker 1>playing for you tonight. You'll know my next guest from

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<v Speaker 1>her appearances on such websites as Mommy Blowsbest dot com

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<v Speaker 1>in Adult time dot Com. You find links to all

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<v Speaker 1>of our social media in the episode description below. But

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to push and recommend that you go

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<v Speaker 1>check out her only fans. Only fans at Jupiter jetson

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<v Speaker 1>really get out there. These people are performers and the

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<v Speaker 1>performing for you. You know, you don't go steal a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>just go do it. Only fans at Jupiter Jets And,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, my guest today join me in welcoming

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<v Speaker 1>the Spectacles Killer Jupiter Jets and Jupiter. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you right off the bat a quick

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<v Speaker 1>question about your name? Of course, it'd be funny if

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<v Speaker 1>we had all that talk beforehand about inappropriate and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, what's your social Security number? No, your

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<v Speaker 1>name wasn't always your name in the industry, was it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was not. No, I have been a woman of

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<v Speaker 2>many names. Okay, Well, just too, just too this one

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<v Speaker 2>and my current.

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<v Speaker 1>So why the rebrand because I see certain girls rebrand

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and I always just think, like, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>cute name, you had a cute style. Was there something

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<v Speaker 1>about your quote unquote brand at the time that you

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't love?

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<v Speaker 2>I've so my brand because I'm almost incapable of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>up a ruse twenty four to seven. My brand is

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<v Speaker 2>basically just me, but with makeup on all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's not that I had any issues with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually really liked my first name, which my original

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<v Speaker 2>name for those who might not be aware, was Nova Sky.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were a couple of issues with it, namely

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<v Speaker 2>that I, when I chose that name, I did not

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<v Speaker 2>really necessarily realize just how much Internet search optimization mattered,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I hadn't googled it first. I hadn't looked

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<v Speaker 2>it up. And there were two major issues. One was

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a hotel which is the Hotel Novas Guy,

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<v Speaker 2>so any dedicated SEO they've put the years in. And

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, Nova's a nova exists in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is not a single article ever that has

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<v Speaker 2>been written that mentioned Nova's Sorry about him, that mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>Nova's that does not mention the sky, so there was

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<v Speaker 2>no I mean, you could google Nova Sky and you

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<v Speaker 2>would have to go down page after page after page

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<v Speaker 2>to find anything that even hinted in me. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the biggest issue. And so when I signed with

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<v Speaker 2>my big girl agency, they suggested, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the best for search engines. You know, maybe think of

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<v Speaker 2>something that is a little bit more unique and easy

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<v Speaker 2>to look for. So I landed. I knew I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of keep the planetary vibe, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>inner the outer space vibe. And when I started working

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<v Speaker 2>at the BROTHELS, I couldn't use the name Nova because

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<v Speaker 2>there was another girl here name Nova. I random stand

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<v Speaker 2>that happenstance, So I had to go by by my

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<v Speaker 2>last name, which was a guy, and I went by

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<v Speaker 2>Sky for the longest time here, And Jupiter is the

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<v Speaker 2>god of the sky, so I thought that that was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool, and I just wanted to go with an alliteration.

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<v Speaker 2>So I initially actually wanted to be Jupiter Jones because

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a great name with a great

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<v Speaker 2>ring to somebody else agreed years ago and named the

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<v Speaker 2>protagonist of their book Jupiter choone okay, okay, So I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't go with that, so I just kind of went

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<v Speaker 2>down I know that it's probably not the most glamorous

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<v Speaker 2>or interesting anth I should probably be f and just

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<v Speaker 2>tell people I loved the Jetson, But I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>went down the j names and figured out what had

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<v Speaker 2>no Internet footprint, and so I landed on Jupiter jets in,

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<v Speaker 2>which at the time, the only thing that came up

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<v Speaker 2>when you Google that with a children's scooter called the

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<v Speaker 2>Jetson Jupiter Scooter, which I don't know if I had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with, but I would like to claim

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<v Speaker 2>credit because it has recently rebranded. They still sell it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same scooter, but now it is the Jetson

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<v Speaker 2>Orbit Scooter. So I think that possibly a porn actress

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<v Speaker 2>being the number one search result when you look up

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<v Speaker 2>jets and Jupiter or Jupiter Jetson possibly may have influenced.

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<v Speaker 1>The I was gonna say, you know, they didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>in the time on SEO like you did, so now

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones that have to change their name. It

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<v Speaker 1>all makes sense going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I think I genuinely do, like think that

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<v Speaker 2>that might have played a small part in it. Just

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<v Speaker 2>because like you were the debts and Jupiter for years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either way, but that's how I landed

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And I love my name like I actually

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<v Speaker 2>love my second name in ways that I never loved

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<v Speaker 2>my first name, because I never chose the name Skuy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just I needed to choose a last name

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<v Speaker 2>when I got to the brothel, and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>one prepared, so I was like Sky, sure, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a sexy answer. But there we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we got to get you to film a scene

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<v Speaker 1>with someone named Zeus because now listen, I understand they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming on for these interviews with porn stars, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give is a little history on Latin here.

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<v Speaker 1>I took four years of Latin in high school. Jupiter

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<v Speaker 1>is the same in the Roman gods as Zeus and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one. So we need a clash of the

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<v Speaker 1>titans here and you can call it that steal that title.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to sue you. Jupiter. How tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what was your first scene that you ever shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? The first scene I ever thought? Are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream or indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking the first time you commit to yourself. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, a high school shooting a video

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<v Speaker 1>with your boyfriend, but like, yeah, first time you're committing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is going to possibly be a job for

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<v Speaker 1>me at least I want to try this. It's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a career even I mean, so.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I ever did something like that, it

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<v Speaker 2>actually I didn't think like this will be a career.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I'll try this because I say yes,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah a lot. It was actually a custom video that

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<v Speaker 2>was requested by one of my clients at the brothel.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a big fan of the actress in stage,

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<v Speaker 2>who is an absolute legend. Like when I saw this,

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<v Speaker 2>what when I saw her first? I'll never forget the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I saw her, Like my client pulled up

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<v Speaker 2>her Instagram and was like, would you fill the scene

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<v Speaker 2>with her? If I like, you know, ordered it and

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<v Speaker 2>asked for it. And I was like, I mean absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's no way she's gonna film with me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a At the time, I had like six hundred followers,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe a little bit more than that. I might

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<v Speaker 2>have had like one or two thousand, but still like

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<v Speaker 2>absolute nobody on social media. And she said yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I shot that scene with her, and her feedback

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<v Speaker 2>was like phenomenal, like me and me and her actually

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<v Speaker 2>still friends to day, but she was just like, you

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<v Speaker 2>are really good at this, like you should consider this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And she encouraged me to reach out to other performers

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<v Speaker 2>and consider like making some films. And the second film

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<v Speaker 2>I made ended up getting nominated for an award. It

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<v Speaker 2>was East Bay Bratts with Courtney Trouble, Ludo Letro's Ruby

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<v Speaker 2>Riot like that whole crew, and it got nominated for

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<v Speaker 2>an award. So after I got done, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>world shut down for fourteen months for me and for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, but I've hit in my house for the

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<v Speaker 2>better part of the year, and when everything opened back up,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I'm taking that as design,

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<v Speaker 2>and I applied to have an agent represent me for

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream and I've been doing it ever since. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of just like another example of I

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<v Speaker 2>say yes a lot, and let's see where it takes

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<v Speaker 2>me sure, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't like it next time, say no. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all just say yes the first time exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because the thing is, when I got into

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<v Speaker 2>sex work, you know, I was I made the decision

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<v Speaker 2>when I came to the brothel. Like after the first

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<v Speaker 2>week that I was here and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is great. I love this where it's just been all

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I kind of made the decision that I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be very out and very proud of

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<v Speaker 2>the choices that I make. So, yeah, the way I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it, I mean, I'm already out about being a

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<v Speaker 2>sex worker. The worst case scenario is I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>like filming it and I don't like how it works out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But yeah, yeah, I didn't see any risk,

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<v Speaker 2>only reward, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that first week when you worked at that brothel, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories of like girls going to strip clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and like their second night in there's X amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money and they're just hooked forever. Was it just the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to dictate how much money you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>make or was it the sex or was it the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting interesting new people? Like after that first week when

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<v Speaker 1>you really decided what locked it in for you that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a career for me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a combination of everything you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>But on top of that, you know, there were two factors.

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<v Speaker 2>One I you know, and I'm not trying to brag,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something that you know, it was apparent even

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, my big sister, Like I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 2>my first negotiation was my very first night in the brothel,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, she watched my negotiation, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked her, like, you know, any pointers, and She's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you got this, you got this. You're good, You're good,

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<v Speaker 2>You're You're already there. You do not need any help.

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<v Speaker 2>You are fine. Like I had like a natural and

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<v Speaker 2>I think partly because I was a bartender and I

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<v Speaker 2>worked in sales for a long time. Sure, I already

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<v Speaker 2>had like the skill set, and I already had a

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<v Speaker 2>really clear idea of my work and what I bring

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<v Speaker 2>to the table. So like I had a natural aptitude

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and I didn't necessarily expect to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just it offers such an amazing flexibility and

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<v Speaker 2>freedom that I you know, that's what I really prioritize,

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<v Speaker 2>is being able to not know where I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in two years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But does that stop you from building any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of milestones or anything to reach or is it

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<v Speaker 1>just whatever happens in the day to day. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a target I'm going for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, of course I have goals like someday

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a little old lady, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of the grounds of the campground that I manage,

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<v Speaker 2>because I would like to. That's kind of like my

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<v Speaker 2>big pie in the sky dream is I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to like own a campground and maintain a campground. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what I want for my retirement. Like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's a new one, But that's not crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you seem very I mean we're outdoors right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem like an outdoorsy fun person. I can't imagine. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you'd have to keep party kids off. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I personally, I mean, do I have to care

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<v Speaker 1>If they well, if on your campground a body is found,

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<v Speaker 2>Well fair enough. But but but those are I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>So like there's a party campground that's notorious called Nelson's Ledges.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a there's a large umbrella goal that

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to me like a reasonable thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Well, it's a there's like the old saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's comparison is the thief of joy.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is it. It's like, you know, comfort begins

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<v Speaker 2>as a party guest, and then it's attending the party

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<v Speaker 2>of your funeral. Like basically the whole vibe is that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you settle. Don't get me wrong, routines

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<v Speaker 2>and comfort and stability are wonderful, but they also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in kind of the mundane. And if every day you're

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<v Speaker 2>we really all should have because it's kind of outrageous

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<v Speaker 2>that we exist.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, oh yeah, I mean we are just the

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<v Speaker 1>luckiest planet, species, whatever you want to call it, in

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<v Speaker 1>all of the universe that we know of, at least, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because maybe we're not no, maybe we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Out at all. Sure, I think it's likely that there's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of intelligent life in the universe. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it. I'll ever reach look at this I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you fifteen minutes and Jupiter Jets in here has

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<v Speaker 1>me talking about space and fucking universes and galaxies. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is incredible. We're going to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a couple of games for you today. I

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<v Speaker 1>have some inappropriate questions. No, I'm just kidding. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some questions coming up for Jupiter here about her content,

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<v Speaker 1>Go check it out, even if you're broke, Just like,

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<v Speaker 1>go over there and look at it and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to save up for this and work. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my campground signing up for Jupiter jetson's only fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just going to throw it in there for those

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<v Speaker 2>broke betties. I do have an absolutely free only fans

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<v Speaker 2>as well for those who just want a little taste

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<v Speaker 2>or want the ability to maybe get a video as

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<v Speaker 2>they come and no subscription, And that's Jupiter jets and

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<v Speaker 2>three X like free x. Just throwing that out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but you should subscribe because it's a much better deal

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<v Speaker 2>for what you get. But yeah, but I throw it

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<v Speaker 2>out there for those who are afraid of commitment. I

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<v Speaker 2>see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand links to that will be in the episode description.

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<v Speaker 1>But my listeners, I don't want to hear you being cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to go over to Jupiter Jets and

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<v Speaker 1>on only fans. We will be right back. Pleas to

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<v Speaker 1>jumping more back with my guest today Jupiter Jets, and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you go follow her only fans at Jupiter

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<v Speaker 1>Jets and she is a free one. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>go pay for it though, please or do you have

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<v Speaker 1>pay per views on the free one?

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<v Speaker 2>I do. That's what I was letting people know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why if you are afraid of commitment but you would

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<v Speaker 2>like to still get in on the action, you can

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<v Speaker 2>always get go like kind of a pay as you

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<v Speaker 2>go model where I do send out messages with pay

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<v Speaker 2>per views. You can always request videos and I will

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<v Speaker 2>send them out pay per view. Unfortunately, you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>the discounts and promotions that I run on my paid page.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, sometimes there's a cost to being afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of commitment.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Sign up for the paid one Jupiter Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and Jupiter I have a game for you today. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever played scategories?

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<v Speaker 2>I have actually not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's not this game, so don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a game I like to call porn words.

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<v Speaker 1>Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but

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<v Speaker 1>with porn stars and porn related categories. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a clue for the correct answer, and

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<v Speaker 1>your job is to tell me what the word is. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say anything within the answer. You can pass

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<v Speaker 1>at any time. There's still time on the clock. Will

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<v Speaker 1>come back to it, and uh to not seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy hack. You have sixty nine seconds to answer ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna describe it

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<v Speaker 1>to you like if I said, if I'm doing this right,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're you're driving a car?

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, there you go there one point would be for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I was like, double.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand, double jerking, Yeah, ski polling, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a new one, all right. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>What poland I've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a colm.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't invent that, don't I've never That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially for an outdoorsy girl like you. It's wonderful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put sixty nine seconds on the clock. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna describe these things to you. They are porn related terms.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me if you can identify the term.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go end of the scene on the this finishing here

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<v Speaker 1>o facial Okay. Number two, a bunch of guys, one

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<v Speaker 2>Oh blow bang.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number three dressing up kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the other part this, but with the other lower the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of your body. There you go. Number six. This

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<v Speaker 1>sounds weird. Black people and white people together.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, interracial.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number seven. Take a drink of this water. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>eight up and in to the left. I've heard brass.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah g spot.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number nine, drink too much water. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to shoot this type of scene. Squirt yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and number ten all the way back deep throat ten

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<v Speaker 2>A and I've made an objection to questionable and problematic

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to talk about that. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker though, according to ia FD dot com, which is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not accurate enough for your priest, how many male

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<v Speaker 1>performers have you worked with? Mainstream male performers? Now, look,

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<v Speaker 1>that number is going to be totally different. You've shot

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<v Speaker 1>private scenes that are not on this number. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>referring to the number itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have no idea, because there's like ten porn

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<v Speaker 2>dicks hold up the whole industry. Oh god, let's stay twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad nineteen nineteen nineteen. Yeah, well he look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, out my European one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They would have to be like main

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream sites, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, mainstream Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah for sure, for sure, yes, yes, yes, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was a phenomenal job you did. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into problematic stuff. The term that I used there before, uh, interracial?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that offensive to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or not? Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what is your objection to it? I should say

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<v Speaker 1>so my objection.

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<v Speaker 2>My objection is that you know it? How do I say?

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<v Speaker 2>It creates a category of otherness when the experience of

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with somebody of a different race is just sex,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like inter racial business in any way

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<v Speaker 2>describe the sex act taking place. It doesn't describe the

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<v Speaker 2>actual activities. All it describes is if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>fetishize somebody of another race, this is what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. And I mean, I'm not necessarily the one

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<v Speaker 2>to break down the problematic history of you know, porn

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<v Speaker 2>fetishizing black specifically. It tends. I mean, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>Asians have it pretty hard in the pin industry as well,

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<v Speaker 2>But when people are talking about interracial, they're usually not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Asians and Hispanics having sex with each other. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as a matter of fact, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt that that scene would even be tagged at

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<v Speaker 2>inter racial. What they are talking about specifically is black

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<v Speaker 2>with white. They're talking, they're generally speaking about that, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is there's a whole problematic history of using black

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<v Speaker 2>people as breeding stock, which is that's the fetish that

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<v Speaker 2>that's playing into. And I mean, it's actually why whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I work, if you look at my body of words,

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<v Speaker 2>I work with people, all genders, all races, all body types.

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<v Speaker 2>Like That's my favorite thing about porn is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>normalizing sexual expression of all kinds. I think that when

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<v Speaker 2>you tag things as interracial or BBC all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>all that serves to do is to further take us

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<v Speaker 2>further away from normalization. You're othering that category when really

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<v Speaker 2>it's just two people have.

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<v Speaker 1>Accepts for sure. Yeah, I'm I'm not. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>play a little devil's advocate here only because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you. Like everything you said was made total

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me. It seems like though, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, but there are a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>visual categories in porn. It seems like, I guess there's yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing different about you except for your redhead. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do we put that under? Like red head, you know, tattooed,

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. I don't have a I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>do not have a problem if anyone feels any way

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<v Speaker 1>about sex. I think that's the coolest thing. It's between

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<v Speaker 1>you and whoever you're with in the room, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as no one's under eighteen or with animals. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine with it. You're good.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, I mean, go ahead, I will say though,

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<v Speaker 2>not to not to beat up the devil, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like having those categories is just a side effect

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<v Speaker 2>of people not recognizing pornography as the art form that

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<v Speaker 2>it is. When we listen to music, we don't say

427
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<v Speaker 2>I want an all dude band, I want all Like

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<v Speaker 2>where's the Canadian mail rock section, or where's the Canadian

429
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<v Speaker 2>male section. I'm the musing store, where is the you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I know that makes total sense, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand, you know, people being like, well, I have a

433
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<v Speaker 2>thing for this specific person. And to that, I say, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 2>in the era of you know, the subscription based pornography,

435
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<v Speaker 2>maybe time for people to maybe start thinking of us

436
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<v Speaker 2>as people and not as categories. Finding performers you like

437
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<v Speaker 2>and then seeing who they work with. You know, I mean,

438
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<v Speaker 2>maybe if people thought of us as people and not

439
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<v Speaker 2>interchangeable parts, like oh man, I really want to watch

440
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<v Speaker 2>a redhead getting cloud, maybe we wouldn't see here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's not an unfair point. I think that's I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a really smart point. I just I worry

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<v Speaker 1>that we may lose work for certain people who fall

444
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<v Speaker 1>within certain niches, like if it's a bigger girl, maybe

445
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<v Speaker 1>there are specific sections for that. No, tell me why

446
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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, Yes, yeah, so.

447
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<v Speaker 2>The reason why you are wrong about that, though, is

448
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<v Speaker 2>actually because of the very strict categorization of the porn

449
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<v Speaker 2>industry as it currently stands. Actually, people who don't fit

450
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<v Speaker 2>neatly into one box lose out on work because they'll say, oh,

451
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<v Speaker 2>I really you know, there will be a scene, and

452
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<v Speaker 2>really the premise of the scene is just man has

453
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<v Speaker 2>sex with women who came to fix her plumbing. But

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<v Speaker 2>because someone wrote the scene and said it's got to

455
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<v Speaker 2>be a redhead who does this, then a black woman

456
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<v Speaker 2>who is available tested professional, well, she doesn't fit. It's

457
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<v Speaker 2>not an interracial scene, so we're not going to book her.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a BBW scene, so we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>book her because it's not a BBW scene. We're not

461
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<v Speaker 2>going to book your her because it's not a redhead.

462
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<v Speaker 2>When you reduce people to fetishes, it means that they're

463
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<v Speaker 2>only going to be booked for the scenes that fetishize them.

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<v Speaker 2>In particular, as opposed to someone who's just a ambiguously

465
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<v Speaker 2>white brunette is not going to be only cast in

466
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<v Speaker 2>brunette scene. Somebody who is a you know what I mean, Like,

467
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<v Speaker 2>it actually limits your reach and your range when in

468
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<v Speaker 2>actuality we are just sexual olympians.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking it back to Zeus, to catholetes, decatholics. Exactly, you're versatile,

470
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<v Speaker 1>you can do multiple exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, yeah, No, I actually I think it

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<v Speaker 2>serves nobody. But the simplistic nature of deciding the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of content you're going to make base upon an algorithm.

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<v Speaker 1>M okay, yeah, well but we did start off talking

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<v Speaker 1>about SEO.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but there are other ways to gain SEO. If

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<v Speaker 2>people are going I'm just saying, if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the sex acts being performed and offered a

479
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<v Speaker 2>gallery of diverse models, people could find what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I think that, so you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you against categorizing whatsoever? Or are you comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in something like I may not come I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, No, I'm actually I would say, I mean,

484
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<v Speaker 2>I know it's somewhat unavoidable, but actually I'm generally speaking

485
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<v Speaker 2>not pro categorization because especially you'll hear this talked about

486
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<v Speaker 2>a lot in foreign media, and like the documentaries that

487
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<v Speaker 2>explore Peorn I've heard it time and again, is that

488
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<v Speaker 2>there is kind of a dead zone for foreign actresses.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I count myself very lucky. I didn't get into

490
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<v Speaker 2>porn until my late twenties, so I was already out

491
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<v Speaker 2>of that dead zone when I entered the industry. But

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<v Speaker 2>there is teen and there's milk once you turn like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one twenty two. Unless you keep that like Riley reed,

494
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<v Speaker 2>baby face, you don't get consistent work until you're twenty nine,

495
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<v Speaker 2>thirty thirty one, you have there is no and I'm sorry,

496
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>but that is the age of most that most men

497
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<v Speaker 2>want to want to masturbate to women. It's like most

498
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<v Speaker 2>men want to masturbate to twenty one to thirty year old,

499
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<v Speaker 2>I mean and older. But my point being, people don't

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<v Speaker 2>like there is no category that serves to book women

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<v Speaker 2>between the ages of twenty one and thirty. So there

502
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<v Speaker 2>is a nine year dead zone in every performer, every

503
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<v Speaker 2>mainstream performer's career as the useless dead zone, like and

504
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<v Speaker 2>nobody has thought to invent like the babe category. You know,

505
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<v Speaker 2>it's really ridiculous. So I personally don't think I think

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<v Speaker 2>that actually having strictly categorized porn actually limits the variety

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<v Speaker 2>available on the porn market.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you're cutting You're you're giving these brilliant answers

509
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<v Speaker 1>to everything that I'm trying to get around, trying to

510
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<v Speaker 1>weasele my way around. How about like a number of

511
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<v Speaker 1>people in this No, I think it's it's the most

512
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<v Speaker 1>insightful take I've ever heard on this, and I've had

513
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<v Speaker 1>conversations on this before. Yeah, yeah, I have questions of

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<v Speaker 1>follow up on that. But how about just like number

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the scene. Can you give me that?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give me like two guys and a girl?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'll just.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that that describes the sex act.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha? So we can describe maybe not the people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well, that's exactly it. I think that the important

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<v Speaker 2>thing would be to describe the sex act. Okay, and

522
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<v Speaker 2>you can you can describe the fetish, you know, if

523
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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a lot of faux sest in the industry,

524
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<v Speaker 2>people make jokes about all the time. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's another symptom of al arhythmic content decisions. But I

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<v Speaker 2>digress because not the conversation, but I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>you give people the option of like, you know, there

528
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<v Speaker 2>was a while there where I was really turned on

529
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<v Speaker 2>by double penetration. You know, I googled double penetration and

530
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<v Speaker 2>I would I was much younger I did not know

531
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<v Speaker 2>to pay for my porn throwing that out there, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would. I would look, and I would scroll through,

533
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<v Speaker 2>and then I'd be like, oh that that tickles my tingle,

534
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<v Speaker 2>and I'd click on a video. It was never I

535
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<v Speaker 2>want to see a blonde getting tag teamed by two men.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is is, if you want to get

537
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<v Speaker 2>that specific, you can do the legwork of looking. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when I want to shop for address, I can't just

539
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<v Speaker 2>type in, no matter what, and no matter how specific

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<v Speaker 2>I get with search terms, I'm gonna have to scroll

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<v Speaker 2>through and find something that appeals to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see why porn is any different.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes sense. You don't you click on

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<v Speaker 1>the image of a porn star, you know whatever the

545
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<v Speaker 1>thumbnail is. You don't read you know, Hailey Spades dominated

546
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<v Speaker 1>by BBC but like you don't want or tiny white

547
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<v Speaker 1>girl dominant. Yeah I get it. I Yeah, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>And go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will point out also that by giving people

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<v Speaker 2>these options to so heavily censor their search results, you're

551
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<v Speaker 2>actually missing out on people who might be oh, that's

552
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<v Speaker 2>not my thing, but that looks really hot and clicking

553
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<v Speaker 2>on something outside of.

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<v Speaker 1>The genre as a viewer. I know I have favorite scenes,

555
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<v Speaker 1>I have favorite performers, I have this and that. But

556
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<v Speaker 1>you're right, sometimes you'll see something that comes along and

557
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<v Speaker 1>you go, how the fuck did I miss this girl

558
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<v Speaker 1>here exactly?

559
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>And you missed her because everything is so algorithmically guided

560
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<v Speaker 2>and tagged in with keywords, like I get tagged as

561
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<v Speaker 2>a tattooed model constantly, and I do have tattoos, But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like calling me a tattooed model is somewhat

563
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<v Speaker 2>of a misnomer because I don't necessarily think it's the

564
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<v Speaker 2>first thing that people notice about me. I'm not incredibly heavy,

565
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<v Speaker 2>heavily ta food, I have some tattoos, I'm a mil

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<v Speaker 2>but I consistently I got accused of lying about my

567
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<v Speaker 2>age on scrip chat last week, and I had my

568
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<v Speaker 2>age listed as like four years younger than I am,

569
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<v Speaker 2>and they were accusing me of aging myself up. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not thirty, and I'm like, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, you look looker than that. Well phenomenal. You

572
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<v Speaker 1>look phenomenal for whatever you are you But that's.

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<v Speaker 2>My point, though, is it's all of this deeply discounts.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes away the individuality, and it does take away

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<v Speaker 2>some of Like, I know it sounds kind of silly,

576
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<v Speaker 2>but the reason why porn is legal is because it

577
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<v Speaker 2>was recognized as a form of art by the court,

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<v Speaker 2>like pornography is art.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound crazy at all. I have an autograph

580
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<v Speaker 1>picture hanging, you know, up in my office of Larry Flint,

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<v Speaker 1>only because you know Larry. Why my thing about Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Flint is just always fault for free speech and I

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<v Speaker 1>love I've been on Twitter lately and I'll keep my

584
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<v Speaker 1>views to myself, but there's been some political opinions that

585
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<v Speaker 1>I agree with some people on In the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been very anti porn, and I start looking at

587
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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people who will say other amendments matter,

588
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>but then we'll chastise porn and give shit to porn

589
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<v Speaker 1>and whatever else. Hey, I'm sorry if the first or

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<v Speaker 1>or what doesn't matter, none of them do well.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing is, I mean, we're at a

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<v Speaker 2>weird time not to get because you live in fantasy

593
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<v Speaker 2>world where all of the girls want to have sex

594
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<v Speaker 2>with their pizza delivery man. But there is very much

595
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<v Speaker 2>so a very troubling anti porn, anti sexuality, anti sex

596
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<v Speaker 2>education push going on right now, and I mean, I

597
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<v Speaker 2>don't know at the end of the day. It's these

598
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>things come in waves. I think that very much. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at a kind of rough couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that people will that they want to

601
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<v Speaker 2>masturbate and that there's no such thing as an addiction

602
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<v Speaker 2>to a necessary biological impulse. Like if we didn't have

603
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<v Speaker 2>the urge to touch our genitals, we wouldn't exist. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is literal. I literally mean if we did not

605
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<v Speaker 2>want to masturbate, humans wouldn't exist. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, So this.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole idea of like no fap white supremacy, it can't

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a white supremacist, so I can't touch my dick

609
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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. I mean, like it flies in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of science, like take completely remove morality from it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want more humans to exist, you have to

612
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<v Speaker 2>be comfortable touching your face.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how it's snowballs too, because early on, like

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<v Speaker 1>the no fapping thing, whatever it was, I think it

615
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<v Speaker 1>was meant as like dudes who were like like had

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<v Speaker 1>a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh if this was an this was an educational podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, I highly encourage everybody to google and really

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<v Speaker 2>go down the deep dive of where the novap originates.

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<v Speaker 2>It originates, That's why I mentioned white supremacy. It actually

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<v Speaker 2>originates in white supremacist evangelical Christian roots. So like it

622
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<v Speaker 2>very much. So it disguises itself as like more of

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<v Speaker 2>like one of the trendy kind of like alpha male,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big dude kind of it has the same

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<v Speaker 2>roots as the you know current that's basically the same

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<v Speaker 2>people who bring you morality in the media, now known

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<v Speaker 2>as Exodus Cry or no, no, they sorry, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>Exodus Cry. Exodus Cry is just affiliate with them. They

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<v Speaker 2>actually rebranded to and Cozy, which is the National Center

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<v Speaker 2>on Sexual Exploitation, So now they sound really official, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're still just morality in the media. They're a Christian

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<v Speaker 2>group that doesn't want foreign to exist. Actually, and Cozy

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<v Speaker 2>is the group that has been pushing all of the

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<v Speaker 2>age verification laws and all of the you know, anti

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<v Speaker 2>porn bills, which anybody in porn will tell you, well,

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<v Speaker 2>yes we want age verification. We want it at the

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<v Speaker 2>device level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to give your kids an iPad.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we can we talk about that for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think so many people are confused by that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saying, Okay, porn Hub is blocked in Texas right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because they obviously were just sem using the media narrative

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. They really just wanted a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>kids on it. So instead they're going to just shut

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<v Speaker 1>it off entirely, rather than all the kids that would

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<v Speaker 1>flood in and click all the ads and sign up

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<v Speaker 1>with their fucking American Express cards.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think there's kids don't have credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no logic to it. Yes, I go ahead, yeah, please, kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have credit cards. So here's the thing. No one

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<v Speaker 2>wants children on their porn site. Okay, I've had people,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had I've had people who admit to being under

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<v Speaker 2>a team who message me on my Twitter. They are

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<v Speaker 2>immediately and without question blocked. I don't even respond to

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<v Speaker 2>them to tell them why they are blocked. They just

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly can't see my boots. No one wants them there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all want page verifications. The problem with the

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<v Speaker 2>laws that they are putting forth for age verification is

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<v Speaker 2>that they actually put every person who takes part in

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<v Speaker 2>the current version of the age verification that the Christian

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<v Speaker 2>right wants and the Republican right wants is something that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to put users at risk. You know how you

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<v Speaker 2>get those emails that say, like your information was found

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<v Speaker 2>in a breach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Pornhub is the single most I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>the most popular website on the Internet, but it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Up there, Yeah, it's up there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it has to be in the top five on

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. Probably hackers large and small would be making

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<v Speaker 2>that their target. And already I'm sure already do to

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<v Speaker 2>get user information if you had to uplate upload a

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<v Speaker 2>government ID and a credit card any time you want

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<v Speaker 2>to use it. Because the way that these laws are written,

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, is not one time verification. It is constant reverification,

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<v Speaker 2>which some of these sites actually logging you out after

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like twenty minutes to reverify. So mid fab,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to pull out your ID and do biometric scanning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole point is not to stop kids from

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<v Speaker 2>accessing it. It's to make it so inconvenient that adults

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to access it, which then does not stop

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<v Speaker 2>porn from existing. It starts driving track, it driving traffic

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<v Speaker 2>to the underground websites that are stealing pornography, not age

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00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 2>verifying performers, which is the bigger danger. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want people being traffic for the purpose of sexual

688
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<v Speaker 2>exploitation on camera, you want to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 2>are having their IDs verified, that everybody who is uploading

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<v Speaker 2>porn is doing so with a government name and idea attached.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're stealing porn from you know, creampiegirls, dot net,

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<v Speaker 2>slash fi o, you're not getting an age verified video.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not even getting a consent verified video. Coornhub takes

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<v Speaker 2>great length to verify both names. I have to do

695
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<v Speaker 2>biometric scans, upload my ID, I have to sign I

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<v Speaker 2>have what's called a twenty two to fifty seven, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a verification of identity. I also have to do

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<v Speaker 2>an individualized model consent checklist, and I have to upload

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<v Speaker 2>proof of those with IDs with a photo of my

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<v Speaker 2>costar holding their IDs next to their faith. For every

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<v Speaker 2>single video, there is no such thing as oh, well,

702
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<v Speaker 2>I filmed with this person so I can upload it here. No,

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<v Speaker 2>every video, every time has those formed and ideas attached.

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<v Speaker 2>What they are doing is making it more dangerous for adults,

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<v Speaker 2>consenting happy adults to actually access ethical legal porn. They're

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<v Speaker 2>making it just like they did with foss A Sesta.

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<v Speaker 2>They're making it harder to track abuse, so we're against that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus none of the kids are going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website anymore, so there's always that I'm just kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking with you. I understand. That was why it

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<v Speaker 1>was a brilliant breakdown. I don't think people understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it is because it depending upon your political aisle. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, you know, no one should have porn whatsoever, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the part is an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it is. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no, no, no place,

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<v Speaker 2>but really what it is, it's the latest It is

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<v Speaker 2>the latest iteration of if we say it's to protect children,

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<v Speaker 2>people will go along with it when they don't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>the implications for your online privacy and security. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>sexual proclivity has always historically been used to blackmail people.

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<v Speaker 2>Giving a treasure trove of information about individualized users on

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<v Speaker 2>a porn website. Is it's terrible like those in combination

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<v Speaker 2>as a recipe for disaster. And anybody who has seen

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<v Speaker 2>the Ashley Madison documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I just watched it too, nights, we'll attest to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what we're trying, and that's what we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent. That's when we blot when we are saying

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<v Speaker 2>we're anti age verification, it is not that we want

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<v Speaker 2>kids on the website. It's that we want the people

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<v Speaker 2>who consume pornography to be safe while they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and we want performers to be compensated. So

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<v Speaker 2>basically the answer is age verification, yes, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>device level, parental controls on your children's devices, that is

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<v Speaker 2>what we all want, and instead we are getting this

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<v Speaker 2>because parental controls on devices does not make sex worker

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<v Speaker 2>lives harder. It does not make it harder to access

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<v Speaker 2>for and that's the actual goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, My guests today, Jupiter gestion, She just

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<v Speaker 1>did the greatest breakdown I've ever heard and the most

741
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<v Speaker 1>easy to understand. Like that may have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>breakout clip that I make for this episode because so

743
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<v Speaker 1>many people just don't understand it, and it's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>because the same people. Again, I'm just I'm picking on

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<v Speaker 1>Texas on this one, no reason to, just just because

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're the one that blocked it off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Utah maybe did something similar, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The list is, it's actually a fairly intimidating list right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm positive every one of those states yells and screams

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<v Speaker 1>about individual freedoms and personal responsibilities and everything else, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it comes to point, it's like, nah, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we can't trust you to be responsible enough to

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<v Speaker 1>put a block on your kid's phone. We'll just cut

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing off.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the sheer volume of boomers who discovered

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<v Speaker 2>in one day, what a v.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>take a break and we will be right back, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're back my guess stupid or jets, and make

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<v Speaker 3>sure you follow her on all social media links in

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<v Speaker 3>the episode description, but also sign up for our only

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<v Speaker 3>fans at Jupiter Jets and and we just learned before

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<v Speaker 3>the last break Jupiter Jets and across all social media.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't have to say go to the episode description,

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<v Speaker 1>go type it in Twitter, go type it in Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sign up Jupiter. You have been phenomenal today at

767
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<v Speaker 1>letting me know why I was wrong. And that may

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm being shitty or rude about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually not. I love love, love different perspectives, and I

770
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<v Speaker 1>love people explaining to me why something is. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've learned a lot more I would. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned before you did have a period where you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed DP correct. Yes, Okay, well, then I have quite

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00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the game for you. Let's play Ladies. Choice. At least

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<v Speaker 1>Choice is a game where you, the world famous porn star,

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<v Speaker 1>get to build your own celebri the fantasy gang bang. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick the individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna spin these wheels which you can't see,

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<v Speaker 1>but the people at home can, okay, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to form your group. There's an act bay, Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an actor wheel, and then there's just a guy. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Your job building this gang bang is to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>who goes where. I understand in an actual one, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all constantly in rotation, like planets orbiting a sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try and use some logical on why you

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<v Speaker 1>would pick these people for what? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Side note, I have once had the concept. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of Jupiter and her eighty eight moons, because

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<v Speaker 2>there are eighty eight moons of Jupiter and there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a debatable number, but I I have made the orbit

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<v Speaker 2>the moons in orbit. It's too many, dudes. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>find eighty eight porn dudes, it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you maybe if I did like the like

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve major moons, I did the twelve major moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be like a gang bang or BOUKACKI or like,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you do that? How do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>would form that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's too many movies, it's too many moving cards. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to our gang bang.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonderful we spin the wheels here, let's play Lady's Choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Momoa, Ted Bundy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter Jesson, your contestants for today's Ladies Choice. Number one

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, five year, two hundred and seventy five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar contract, just signed quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. Looker,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's handsome. That's just me good looking country boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a bad picture. Number two Jason Momoa. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>know him as Aquaman or from Game of Thrones. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the sexiest men in Hollywood. Now, unfortunately, you

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<v Speaker 1>did draw a bad stroll on your wild cart Ted Bundy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the pros are he did go to law school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool, right, Unfortunately he did kill thirty people. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a true crime fan at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I wouldn't say a fan, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>plenty about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I'm not a fan of it in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would do it for Ted Bundy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of Ed Dean for a second. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the boys. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's where the logic comes in. Right, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a guy in your third spot here who's

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<v Speaker 1>a strangler, do you really want them behind you?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? Yes, because I want Jason Momoa in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I already had this parked up before the wheeling

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<v Speaker 2>was stopped fitting Okay, already knew how this was going

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So are we going Jason Momoa mouth?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jason Momoa in the face. Just I would stuck

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<v Speaker 2>the soul out of that man's dick. Sorry, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to speak super explicitly about like celebrities, so my

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<v Speaker 2>apologies to mister Momoa. I have nothing but respect. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I loved his show about, like him, like

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<v Speaker 2>going around making dirt bikes like that was so freaking cute,

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<v Speaker 2>wholesome content. That would be a very wholesome blow job anyway.

837
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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't do this to you. This was somebody else.

838
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't You didn't ask to be objectified. And I'm sorry, sir,

839
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>but yes, I would suck the soul out of your dick.

840
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And Captain mcsportsy over there, I don't know his name,

841
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>but he looks like he'd be a good bass you know,

842
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>so like i'd probably take him in the front because

843
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I've got two big beefy dudes to the front. If

844
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>weird he mcwirdson tries to do anything from the back,

845
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 2>i'd imagine either one of them punch him out. Okay,

846
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, so he could get the butthole because he

847
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>also has really small dig at her like small dick energy.

848
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>He gets the butt and I got my other two dudes.

849
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got my ground floor and my front end.

850
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Covered infallible logic there, but also not uncommon, having played

851
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 1>this game a few times now, most girls are assuming

852
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.519
<v Speaker 1>third guy, uh, small dick, and you know what, it's

853
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>not a bad assumption. So if you're someone who's go.

854
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Ahead, well and he specifically is if you have to

855
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>actually go out and like rape, strangle and murder. Yeah,

856
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 2>you're compensating. Sure, Like, yeah, you're compensating. It's not like

857
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 2>like you. There's no way, no way that man was

858
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>packing a coke can. No, I'll eat, I'll eat my hat.

859
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 2>There's no way.

860
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you, is there a way you can

861
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 1>translate this sounds dumb? Let me explain fully? Is there

862
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 1>way you can translate your intelligence into even more income

863
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>than you're making? Now? I only say this because you

864
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>have such a good perspective on the industry. Would you

865
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have interest in things like producing, directing, or even managing?

866
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yes, yeah, I actually I'm still in the

867
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 2>learning phase because some things like videography, you know, and

868
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like lighting and photography were never like personally like hyper

869
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 2>focuses of mine, if you will. But I actually like

870
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I've already taken my hand. I guess I could technically say,

871
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, technically speaking, my award was for like production

872
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and starring because East Bay Brats is just a five

873
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>person operation. We do everything ourselves, and all of the

874
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>scenes I make on my website, like for a while there,

875
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I used to outsource my only fans. Now if you

876
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 2>sign up for my Only Fans. My response time is slow,

877
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 2>but it's me who's responding good one hundred percent of

878
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the time. Nobody else touches my only Fans. And when

879
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I had a management company, their complaint was that, you know,

880
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>all your stuff is just too high production value, Like

881
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.320
<v Speaker 2>it's not really only a band's quality, it's it's studio quality.

882
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>And it's because I do have an eye for that

883
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. And that's that's absolutely something that I,

884
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, would like to explore as my career goes on.

885
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 2>But right now, I'm just still in the looking and

886
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 2>listening and learning from people who are better at it

887
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>than I am. Like, but I always make note of

888
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 2>how people set their things up, and you know, I've

889
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>been doing some soft research on cameras and all of that.

890
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I do a side no,

891
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 1>You're good, year, I apologize. I do a sideshow where

892
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I also interview a side show actually sounds worse than

893
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 1>a separate podcast. That's great now, Yeah, yeah, where I

894
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>interview newer performers who seem like they have good work ethic,

895
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I'll check their history. I'll make sure you know

896
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're posting, but not a lot of followers. And

897
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I try and like do a little introduction to the industry,

898
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm starting to pick up on all the major stuff.

899
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And I go to your Twitter thing and there's no

900
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>link tree or all my links. It's like, that is

901
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we got to get, you know, all of that set up.

902
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I think you would be so great at not that

903
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not a phenomenal performer, you are, but I the knowledge.

904
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you could really help a lot of people. I

905
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you'd make money out of it, though,

906
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 1>just managing all yeah.

907
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And see, that's see, And that's the thing is I

908
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and this is not to say that it is an

909
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 2>inherently unethical job to be the manager of someone else,

910
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a necessary job. Honestly, if I could find

911
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 2>a company that actually works to my standard, I would

912
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>love to be able to outsource some of the work

913
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of my performing. However, I personally, I mean, I always

914
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 2>tell new performers, like if you have any questions, any performers,

915
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 2>any sex workers in general, like I'm and I'm sure

916
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 2>like there are there are plenty of people who can

917
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.039
<v Speaker 2>attest like I'm an open book. I don't believe in

918
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 2>gatekeeping knowledge. I don't believe that just because I had

919
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 2>to get stiffed on this paycheck means that you need

920
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 2>to get stiffed on the paycheck too to learn the lesson.

921
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And I also don't feel comfortable, not that I think

922
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 2>it's wrong, because I do believe that people should be

923
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>compensated for their time and their labor and all that,

924
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 2>but I feel more like it's a karmic gift if

925
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 2>you will, to go back and forth with information with

926
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 2>other sex workers. So I've never considered monetizing that facet

927
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of my job, you know, But that's just because I'm

928
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 2>deeply uncomfortable, inherently with the concept of, like, let me

929
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>help you get good at this job and give me

930
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>money to do it, because what if I'm not capable

931
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of me you know, like you know, like I just

932
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.079
<v Speaker 2>what if what I'm offering you is something that with

933
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, me just giving you a little bit of

934
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>information you're perfectly capable of doing on your own, it

935
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't feel like a karmically good thing. So I

936
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>have never considered that. But directing producer saying things like.

937
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>That mentoring too, I mean, maybe you don't have to

938
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>charge anything for that, But it seems like you're willing

939
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk to younger. Did you have anyone mentor you

940
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>when you came in or it was it since age

941
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>or no, sin.

942
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I tell people I've called her. I called her then

943
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I call her my poorn mommy and she thought it

944
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 2>was sweet. But yeah, we've actually never done a stepmommy video,

945
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>but we uh, you know, she gave me a ton

946
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of really valuable information. Uh, there is a courtesan who

947
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>works up north Stable, Renee. She gave me just so

948
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 2>much valuable information when I first got into the industry,

949
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the the very first day I worked

950
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 2>in a strip club was because I had a friend

951
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of mine from the like gay like the LGBT youth

952
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>group who happened to work at a strip club and

953
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend worked security at a strip club. And she

954
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 2>was like hearing me, like kind of freaking out because

955
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it was like, I'm moving out on my own next

956
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 2>month and Taco Bell, which is where I was working,

957
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 2>is not going to cut it. And she was like, well,

958
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 2>this is an option. And she showed me dance moves

959
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 2>and she helped me like learn how to be a

960
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 2>dancer and that was how I managed to make enough

961
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>money to go to school and move to New York

962
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and all of the things that put me on the

963
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 2>path to where I am right now, you know which,

964
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy with where my life has led. All

965
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of it kind of boils down to a woman at

966
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 2>some point kind of being like, hey, you're absolutely capable

967
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of doing this is just how you do it X

968
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.840
<v Speaker 2>y Z, And not a single one of them ever

969
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>asked me for a diet. So I just feel like

970
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.159
<v Speaker 2>that is kind of part of the sixth the Sisterhood

971
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of sex work.

972
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 1>If you will, you know, yeah, yeah, I've heard horror

973
00:53:56.159 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 1>stories sometimes in strip clubs, though on both I've heard

974
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone loves each other and they help each other out,

975
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 1>and I've heard everyone is at each other's throats all

976
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. I guess that's really just going to depend

977
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on person and situation and area and customers.

978
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's funny, because I've experienced I think it

979
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>all boiled down to management, because I've worked I've only

980
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>worked at two brothels, and one of them and mind you,

981
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the one that I worked at where I got that

982
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 2>wonderful help was from a girl at that brothel, So

983
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.679
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a universal rule, but a first brothel I

984
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 2>worked at, there was a ton of infighting and a

985
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>very competitive spirit, you know. At the one I currently

986
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>work at, there's none of that. We are all incredibly collaborative.

987
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>We share our menu pricing, we share our negotiation kicks.

988
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like honestly, Like, I was just chatting this

989
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>morning with another late day I work with, and we

990
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>were kind of going back and forth about which books

991
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.679
<v Speaker 2>we've read and which have help like, you know, in

992
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.000
<v Speaker 2>regards to this business, and how they've helped us in

993
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 2>which ones we kind of fell you know what I mean. Like,

994
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 2>it is a very collaborative spirit, and it entirely boils

995
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>down to choices made by management. You know, we're not

996
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ranked by how much money we make all of the rooms.

997
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 2>There's no like I've been here longer so I get

998
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 2>this perk. It's all whether you've been here six years

999
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>or six hours. We have the same rules that we

1000
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:29.840
<v Speaker 2>all abide by. We have the same standards that we

1001
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 2>all abide by, and I feel like that, you know,

1002
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>in the same way with strip clubs, a lot of

1003
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it boils down to does the manager believe that an

1004
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.639
<v Speaker 2>air of competition is going to make them more money

1005
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 2>or do they believe that an air of collaboration is

1006
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>going to make them more money? And having seen both sides,

1007
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm firmly on the side of I believe that collaboration

1008
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>makes the most money.

1009
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I again more applying it towards a strip club thing.

1010
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 1>But I don't understand why they would be I understand,

1011
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess I do understand, but you're right. To me,

1012
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>collaboration seems so much better. Like if you have a

1013
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>guy who's not interested in you, maybe you bring a

1014
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.800
<v Speaker 1>friend over and go, would you do a two person

1015
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 1>dance or session whatever you want to call it, you know,

1016
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 1>and you're both getting paid on that one. And you

1017
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>got this girl work because you brought her over. And

1018
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why we can't all just have a

1019
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 1>nice give and take in the world.

1020
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, some of it sometime, well you'll see a lot

1021
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of discourse on the you know, especially on social media

1022
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.679
<v Speaker 2>where like you know, sometimes in sex work Twitter, which

1023
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>most humans are not on, so you probably have not

1024
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>seen this on Twitter, but there'll be discussions of, oh,

1025
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>this girl is charging less and that's bringing down the

1026
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 2>standard for this and blah blah, blah blah blah, and

1027
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that kind of comes down to this

1028
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>idea that we're all kind of fighting for a piece

1029
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 2>of the pie. Everybody's heard that phrase, you know, we're

1030
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>all we all want a piece of the pie. But

1031
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the fact of the matter is, especially when it comes

1032
00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to the luxury industry, which the adult industry, all of

1033
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.719
<v Speaker 2>the adult industry, is the luxury market. Nobody needs it

1034
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.440
<v Speaker 2>to survive. No matter what, we are coming out of

1035
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 2>an entertainment budget, which makes us a luxury service. And

1036
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, that means that it

1037
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 2>is not a pie. This is a bakery. We are

1038
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>at whatever demand there is, we can make that happen.

1039
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 2>We can sell, we can make the product happen, you

1040
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like, it's not a finite market.

1041
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 2>It's not like, Okay, there's one hundred men who pay

1042
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 2>for their porn and we've got to fight from Like, no,

1043
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it is a bakery. We are we are capable

1044
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of as much growth as we are allow ourselves, if

1045
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>that makes any sense.

1046
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>So like, yeah, it's it's meritocracy. It's you will earn

1047
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:48.599
<v Speaker 1>based on how much you work, how much you present

1048
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to the industry how much you know.

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00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Now, yes and no, Yes and no. Well, because I mean, like,

1050
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 2>we don't exist in a vacuum. You know, racism, ableism,

1051
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, fat phobia, these things all do still

1052
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 2>affect your income. Like I, as a skinny, conventionally attractive

1053
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>white woman, am going to have to put in half

1054
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of the effort to make the same amount of money

1055
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 2>as somebody with a similar like as a woman with

1056
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a similar level of attractiveness and a similar a similar

1057
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>level of you know, followers, even I will have I

1058
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 2>if I had more melanin, I would absolutely have to

1059
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 2>put in twice the amount of work to get the

1060
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>same amount of recognition, recognition because there is an inherent

1061
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 2>bias against us, and I'm not fighting against that, so

1062
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I can't necessarily I'm not going to perpetuate a kind

1063
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of bootstrapism about porn. Now, however, it is absolutely egalitarian

1064
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in that anybody can make a living doing this. You

1065
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:55.119
<v Speaker 2>don't even have to be hot, like you know, the

1066
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 2>middle aged, overweight men with a camera who make their

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00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>living eyes many of it doing POV videos.

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00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Feels like she's talking to me, folks. Sounds like I'm

1069
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>just kidding.

1070
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.519
<v Speaker 2>They get my heart. Okay they do. I love trying

1071
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the harlots. I love all of the harlots, okay, whether

1072
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 2>no matter what you look like. But but to say

1073
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that it's completely a meritocracy does ignore, you know, intersections

1074
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of like you know, perceived class, perceived worthiness in society.

1075
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Like that does absolutely translate to the point industry. But

1076
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 2>anybody can get a piece of pie from that bakery.

1077
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Anybody can man the ovens if you will. It's just

1078
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.639
<v Speaker 2>some people might have to lift a heavier gowal.

1079
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>What is on the horizon for you? Do we have

1080
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 1>any like major scenes planned? Did you have any firsts

1081
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>coming up? Do you anything like that?

1082
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a couple of really exciting things, some of

1083
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>which I'm not allowed to talk about yet. One and

1084
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 2>one big one that I'm really excited about that I'm

1085
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:57.280
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to talk about yet.

1086
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask me, let me pulls you. What

1087
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 1>date would you be able to talk about that? Yeah, no, idea,

1088
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a fair enough when company.

1089
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 2>When companies shoot us, they don't give us like a day.

1090
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.199
<v Speaker 2>The only the only projected date I have and I

1091
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 2>am allowed to talk about it is I have a

1092
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Friday the thirteenth theme VR scene, but it's not coming

1093
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 2>out until twenty twenty five. Get what are they They're

1094
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 2>so far ahead, it's a it's real, it's like real

1095
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 2>reality VR. They're like one of the bigger companies in

1096
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Europe for VR.

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01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's more the inner workings. But I wonder

1098
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 1>if porn companies at all adjusted because of COVID, Like

1099
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 1>if they're stockpiling stuff more. I don't know who knows,

1100
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like if they're stocked on footage or scenes to hold

1101
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 1>or you know.

1102
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, in that specific case, I think it was partly

1103
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:56.320
<v Speaker 2>so they flew me out for that scene. So like

1104
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I I'm not look, I don't live in Prague. So

1105
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.840
<v Speaker 2>but I think that because I shot multiple scenes for them,

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01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 2>and that was the only one that I got a

1107
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.480
<v Speaker 2>date for, So I think that most likely they probably

1108
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.320
<v Speaker 2>are going to be releasing, you know, one of the

1109
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 2>scenes I shot for them, you know, in a couple

1110
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.039
<v Speaker 2>of months, one in like six months, and then those

1111
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>are for like next year because I'm an American performer

1112
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 2>and they know they're not going to have me back

1113
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 2>for a little while, so they kind of gotcha got

1114
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it that way, But I don't have we don't really

1115
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 2>get the dates for our stuff.

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01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I is VR porn hard to shoot? What is the

1117
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>experience of that?

1118
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 2>It's different and it is definitely harder than standard porn,

1119
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 2>just because the positions, Like people always talk about positions

1120
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in standards like GameStream form being uncomfortable, and I don't

1121
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 2>necessarily find that to be the case. Like there will

1122
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.559
<v Speaker 2>be different than the sex that I have off camera,

1123
01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>but they still feel good. It's still fun, you know.

1124
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I just have more mindful of how I'm angoying myself,

1125
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.159
<v Speaker 2>but with me are because there are some very specific

1126
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:11.480
<v Speaker 2>angles you have to be at, and very specific like dimensions,

1127
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:14.800
<v Speaker 2>because it starts looking really weird and like curved if

1128
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you're at the wrong dimension. It's a little harder. I mean,

1129
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I like it. It's I tell people all the time,

1130
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like having sex with the robot from Short Circuit.

1131
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, John five is really alive because there's like

1132
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the camera is in between you and your costar, so

1133
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like when you're looking into their eyes, you're looking at

1134
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 2>a sticker in between these two camera lens lenses, because

1135
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that gives the effect of looking into the eyes. It's

1136
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a little weird and uncanny valley, but it's I enjoy it.

1137
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like anything that kind of how do

1138
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I say, takes me into something I haven't tried before,

1139
01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.239
<v Speaker 2>even if I might have like a sorer muscle or

1140
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>two the next day. It's like you, I never expected

1141
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that day when I woke up, that I would be

1142
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in a pamper van, like the upper deck of a camper,

1143
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, with like twenty different pieces of equipment and

1144
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.719
<v Speaker 2>three dudes hanging out in the little hallway trying to

1145
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:22.039
<v Speaker 2>get the shot. Like that's even if it's uncomfortable, it's

1146
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 2>objectively hilarious. Like for that alone, it gets my luck.

1147
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen. My guest today stupidter jetson follow across

1148
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.880
<v Speaker 1>all social media. H sign up for our only fans

1149
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:37.159
<v Speaker 1>at Jupiter Jetson. But really, go do it, Go do it.

1150
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Don't just sit there and think about it. You heard

1151
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 1>her talk today, very fun very funny. Commitment to high

1152
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 1>quality content is what I hear.

1153
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:48.559
<v Speaker 2>And tell me too much.

1154
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, maybe maybe I know. Sometimes I pine over

1155
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 1>editing for fucking hours and hours just getting clips right.

1156
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 1>But that's the mark of afs. Mean, Chrift's a woman,

1157
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 1>not a craftsman. My stuff is shit. Her stuff is

1158
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.719
<v Speaker 1>really phenomenal though folks check out Jupiter Jets and everywhere

1159
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:10.639
<v Speaker 1>on social media and especially your only fans at Jupiter Jets,

1160
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and thank you very much for coming on with me.

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01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 1>It was insightful. I don't know that we talked about

1162
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 1>porn that much, like actual Like it wasn't one of

1163
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.280
<v Speaker 1>those interviews I assume you may have had at one

1164
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 1>point where it's like, so do you like anal or

1165
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 1>what it's like? That Stuff's fine, and I understand why

1166
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.239
<v Speaker 1>people tune in, but I find the people themselves more

1167
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:31.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting personally.

1168
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it says about me, but most

1169
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of my interviews tend to be noised like that. I

1170
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 2>don't normally get to the you know, I feel like

1171
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe I talk a little too much to get to

1172
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the so, so, where do you prefer to take a load?

1173
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I never we never really get to that, Like

1174
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we're a little too busy, like talking about the potential

1175
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 2>of life on other planets to you know, ever get

1176
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to you know, load bearing holes.

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01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming over tonight, Jeeper