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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, my guest today join me in welcoming
Speaker 1: the Spectacles Killer Jupiter Jets and Jupiter. How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you right off the bat a quick
Speaker 1: question about your name? Of course, it'd be funny if
Speaker 1: we had all that talk beforehand about inappropriate and I
Speaker 1: was just like, what's your social Security number? No, your
Speaker 1: name wasn't always your name in the industry, was it?
Speaker 2: It was not. No, I have been a woman of
Speaker 2: many names. Okay, Well, just too, just too this one
Speaker 2: and my current.
Speaker 1: So why the rebrand because I see certain girls rebrand
Speaker 1: sometimes and I always just think, like, you had a
Speaker 1: cute name, you had a cute style. Was there something
Speaker 1: about your quote unquote brand at the time that you
Speaker 1: just didn't love?
Speaker 2: I've so my brand because I'm almost incapable of keeping
Speaker 2: up a ruse twenty four to seven. My brand is
Speaker 2: basically just me, but with makeup on all the time.
Speaker 2: And so it's not that I had any issues with it.
Speaker 2: I actually really liked my first name, which my original
Speaker 2: name for those who might not be aware, was Nova Sky.
Speaker 2: But there were a couple of issues with it, namely
Speaker 2: that I, when I chose that name, I did not
Speaker 2: really necessarily realize just how much Internet search optimization mattered,
Speaker 2: and so I hadn't googled it first. I hadn't looked
Speaker 2: it up. And there were two major issues. One was
Speaker 2: that there's a hotel which is the Hotel Novas Guy,
Speaker 2: so any dedicated SEO they've put the years in. And
Speaker 2: on top of that, Nova's a nova exists in the sky.
Speaker 2: So there is not a single article ever that has
Speaker 2: been written that mentioned Nova's Sorry about him, that mentioned
Speaker 2: Nova's that does not mention the sky, so there was
Speaker 2: no I mean, you could google Nova Sky and you
Speaker 2: would have to go down page after page after page
Speaker 2: to find anything that even hinted in me. So that
Speaker 2: was the biggest issue. And so when I signed with
Speaker 2: my big girl agency, they suggested, you know, it's not
Speaker 2: the best for search engines. You know, maybe think of
Speaker 2: something that is a little bit more unique and easy
Speaker 2: to look for. So I landed. I knew I wanted
Speaker 2: to kind of keep the planetary vibe, you know, the
Speaker 2: inner the outer space vibe. And when I started working
Speaker 2: at the BROTHELS, I couldn't use the name Nova because
Speaker 2: there was another girl here name Nova. I random stand
Speaker 2: that happenstance, So I had to go by by my
Speaker 2: last name, which was a guy, and I went by
Speaker 2: Sky for the longest time here, And Jupiter is the
Speaker 2: god of the sky, so I thought that that was
Speaker 2: really cool, and I just wanted to go with an alliteration.
Speaker 2: So I initially actually wanted to be Jupiter Jones because
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great name with a great
Speaker 2: ring to somebody else agreed years ago and named the
Speaker 2: protagonist of their book Jupiter choone okay, okay, So I
Speaker 2: couldn't go with that, so I just kind of went
Speaker 2: down I know that it's probably not the most glamorous
Speaker 2: or interesting anth I should probably be f and just
Speaker 2: tell people I loved the Jetson, But I kind of
Speaker 2: went down the j names and figured out what had
Speaker 2: no Internet footprint, and so I landed on Jupiter jets in,
Speaker 2: which at the time, the only thing that came up
Speaker 2: when you Google that with a children's scooter called the
Speaker 2: Jetson Jupiter Scooter, which I don't know if I had
Speaker 2: anything to do with, but I would like to claim
Speaker 2: credit because it has recently rebranded. They still sell it.
Speaker 2: It's the same scooter, but now it is the Jetson
Speaker 2: Orbit Scooter. So I think that possibly a porn actress
Speaker 2: being the number one search result when you look up
Speaker 2: jets and Jupiter or Jupiter Jetson possibly may have influenced.
Speaker 1: The I was gonna say, you know, they didn't put
Speaker 1: in the time on SEO like you did, so now
Speaker 1: they're the ones that have to change their name. It
Speaker 1: all makes sense going forward.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think I genuinely do, like think that
Speaker 2: that might have played a small part in it. Just
Speaker 2: because like you were the debts and Jupiter for years.
Speaker 2: I don't know either way, but that's how I landed
Speaker 2: on it. And I love my name like I actually
Speaker 2: love my second name in ways that I never loved
Speaker 2: my first name, because I never chose the name Skuy.
Speaker 2: It was just I needed to choose a last name
Speaker 2: when I got to the brothel, and I didn't have
Speaker 2: one prepared, so I was like Sky, sure, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not a sexy answer. But there we are.
Speaker 1: Well, we got to get you to film a scene
Speaker 1: with someone named Zeus because now listen, I understand they're
Speaker 1: coming on for these interviews with porn stars, but what
Speaker 1: I'm going to give is a little history on Latin here.
Speaker 1: I took four years of Latin in high school. Jupiter
Speaker 1: is the same in the Roman gods as Zeus and
Speaker 1: the other one. So we need a clash of the
Speaker 1: titans here and you can call it that steal that title.
Speaker 1: They're not going to sue you. Jupiter. How tell me
Speaker 1: what was your first scene that you ever shot?
Speaker 2: Uh? The first scene I ever thought? Are we talking
Speaker 2: mainstream or indeed.
Speaker 1: I'm talking the first time you commit to yourself. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, a high school shooting a video
Speaker 1: with your boyfriend, but like, yeah, first time you're committing,
Speaker 1: Like this is going to possibly be a job for
Speaker 1: me at least I want to try this. It's maybe
Speaker 1: a career even I mean, so.
Speaker 2: The first time I ever did something like that, it
Speaker 2: actually I didn't think like this will be a career.
Speaker 2: It was like I'll try this because I say yes,
Speaker 2: yeah a lot. It was actually a custom video that
Speaker 2: was requested by one of my clients at the brothel.
Speaker 2: She was a big fan of the actress in stage,
Speaker 2: who is an absolute legend. Like when I saw this,
Speaker 2: what when I saw her first? I'll never forget the
Speaker 2: first time I saw her, Like my client pulled up
Speaker 2: her Instagram and was like, would you fill the scene
Speaker 2: with her? If I like, you know, ordered it and
Speaker 2: asked for it. And I was like, I mean absolutely,
Speaker 2: but there's no way she's gonna film with me. I'm
Speaker 2: a At the time, I had like six hundred followers,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe a little bit more than that. I might
Speaker 2: have had like one or two thousand, but still like
Speaker 2: absolute nobody on social media. And she said yes, and
Speaker 2: so I shot that scene with her, and her feedback
Speaker 2: was like phenomenal, like me and me and her actually
Speaker 2: still friends to day, but she was just like, you
Speaker 2: are really good at this, like you should consider this.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And she encouraged me to reach out to other performers
Speaker 2: and consider like making some films. And the second film
Speaker 2: I made ended up getting nominated for an award. It
Speaker 2: was East Bay Bratts with Courtney Trouble, Ludo Letro's Ruby
Speaker 2: Riot like that whole crew, and it got nominated for
Speaker 2: an award. So after I got done, you know, the
Speaker 2: world shut down for fourteen months for me and for
Speaker 2: everybody else, but I've hit in my house for the
Speaker 2: better part of the year, and when everything opened back up,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm taking that as design,
Speaker 2: and I applied to have an agent represent me for
Speaker 2: mainstream and I've been doing it ever since. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it was kind of just like another example of I
Speaker 2: say yes a lot, and let's see where it takes
Speaker 2: me sure, and then.
Speaker 1: If you didn't like it next time, say no. You know,
Speaker 1: that's all just say yes the first time exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean, because the thing is, when I got into
Speaker 2: sex work, you know, I was I made the decision
Speaker 2: when I came to the brothel. Like after the first
Speaker 2: week that I was here and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is great. I love this where it's just been all
Speaker 2: my life. I kind of made the decision that I
Speaker 2: was going to be very out and very proud of
Speaker 2: the choices that I make. So, yeah, the way I
Speaker 2: thought it, I mean, I'm already out about being a
Speaker 2: sex worker. The worst case scenario is I just don't
Speaker 2: like filming it and I don't like how it works out,
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, yeah, I didn't see any risk,
Speaker 2: only reward, you know.
Speaker 1: So that first week when you worked at that brothel, though,
Speaker 1: I've heard stories of like girls going to strip clubs
Speaker 1: and like their second night in there's X amount of
Speaker 1: money and they're just hooked forever. Was it just the
Speaker 1: ability to dictate how much money you really want to
Speaker 1: make or was it the sex or was it the
Speaker 1: meeting interesting new people? Like after that first week when
Speaker 1: you really decided what locked it in for you that
Speaker 1: this is a career for me?
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a combination of everything you mentioned,
Speaker 2: But on top of that, you know, there were two factors.
Speaker 2: One I you know, and I'm not trying to brag,
Speaker 2: but it's something that you know, it was apparent even
Speaker 2: from you know, my big sister, Like I'll never forget
Speaker 2: my first negotiation was my very first night in the brothel,
Speaker 2: and you know, she watched my negotiation, and you know,
Speaker 2: I asked her, like, you know, any pointers, and She's like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: you got this, you got this. You're good, You're good,
Speaker 2: You're You're already there. You do not need any help.
Speaker 2: You are fine. Like I had like a natural and
Speaker 2: I think partly because I was a bartender and I
Speaker 2: worked in sales for a long time. Sure, I already
Speaker 2: had like the skill set, and I already had a
Speaker 2: really clear idea of my work and what I bring
Speaker 2: to the table. So like I had a natural aptitude
Speaker 2: for it, and I didn't necessarily expect to have, you know,
Speaker 2: And I just it offers such an amazing flexibility and
Speaker 2: freedom that I you know, that's what I really prioritize,
Speaker 2: is being able to not know where I'm going to
Speaker 2: be in two years.
Speaker 1: You know. But does that stop you from building any
Speaker 1: kind of milestones or anything to reach or is it
Speaker 1: just whatever happens in the day to day. I know
Speaker 1: there's still a target I'm going for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, of course I have goals like someday
Speaker 2: I want to be a little old lady, you know,
Speaker 2: taking care of the grounds of the campground that I manage,
Speaker 2: because I would like to. That's kind of like my
Speaker 2: big pie in the sky dream is I would love
Speaker 2: to like own a campground and maintain a campground. And
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I want for my retirement. Like it.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a new one, But that's not crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean you seem very I mean we're outdoors right now.
Speaker 1: You seem like an outdoorsy fun person. I can't imagine. Uh,
Speaker 1: I guess you'd have to keep party kids off. You'd
Speaker 1: have to become that old lady who's like, hey, eighteen
Speaker 1: year old kids who are showing up here.
Speaker 2: Well, I personally, I mean, do I have to care
Speaker 2: you know, well.
Speaker 1: If they well, if on your campground a body is found,
Speaker 1: you may have to start worrying about that.
Speaker 2: Well fair enough. But but but those are I would say,
Speaker 2: because okay, I mind you. I'm not trying to have
Speaker 2: like a party campground where I'm from. I'm from Cleveland,
Speaker 2: So like there's a party campground that's notorious called Nelson's Ledges.
Speaker 2: That's like where all the hippies and the burners and
Speaker 2: all of that go and hang out, gotcha, And every
Speaker 2: summer there's somebody who dies because they fall into the
Speaker 2: quarry and hit their head on something. That is not
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do. I just want, basically to
Speaker 2: be able to hang out in the woods as an
Speaker 2: old lady. That's kind of the vibe I would like,
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't think it's particularly unattainable. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's a particularly lofty goal. I don't want
Speaker 2: world domination, you know. And uh, that's what I keep
Speaker 2: in mind, and I do set myself. You know. It's
Speaker 2: not that I have no goals, but I have an
Speaker 2: open mind as to where life will take me.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a large umbrella goal that
Speaker 1: you're going for, and whatever path gets you to that,
Speaker 1: you just don't want to stray off of that path.
Speaker 1: That seems to me like a reasonable thing that you know,
Speaker 1: you can't be so structured in your daily life that
Speaker 1: you lose perspective of the things around you. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel personally.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, it's a there's like the old saying,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like a comfort and complacency is the thief.
Speaker 2: I don't know that's comparison is the thief of joy.
Speaker 2: But what is it. It's like, you know, comfort begins
Speaker 2: as a party guest, and then it's attending the party
Speaker 2: of your funeral. Like basically the whole vibe is that,
Speaker 2: you know, if you settle. Don't get me wrong, routines
Speaker 2: and comfort and stability are wonderful, but they also you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like the best part of the human experience
Speaker 2: is you know, still finding wonder and beauty and joy
Speaker 2: in kind of the mundane. And if every day you're
Speaker 2: seeing doing the same thing, eating the same food and
Speaker 2: talking to the same people, it can be really easy
Speaker 2: to lose that kind of like spark of wonder that
Speaker 2: we really all should have because it's kind of outrageous
Speaker 2: that we exist.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, oh yeah, I mean we are just the
Speaker 1: luckiest planet, species, whatever you want to call it, in
Speaker 1: all of the universe that we know of, at least, and.
Speaker 2: It's because maybe we're not no, maybe we're not.
Speaker 1: Out at all. Sure, I think it's likely that there's
Speaker 1: plenty of intelligent life in the universe. I just don't
Speaker 1: know it. I'll ever reach look at this I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you fifteen minutes and Jupiter Jets in here has
Speaker 1: me talking about space and fucking universes and galaxies. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. We're going to take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of games for you today. I
Speaker 1: have some inappropriate questions. No, I'm just kidding. I have
Speaker 1: some questions coming up for Jupiter here about her content,
Speaker 1: the future, where we're working towards, and what we're moving
Speaker 1: to Make sure you sign up for her only fans.
Speaker 1: Go check it out, even if you're broke, Just like,
Speaker 1: go over there and look at it and go, oh,
Speaker 1: I'd like to save up for this and work. This
Speaker 1: is my campground signing up for Jupiter jetson's only fans.
Speaker 2: Okay, just going to throw it in there for those
Speaker 2: broke betties. I do have an absolutely free only fans
Speaker 2: as well for those who just want a little taste
Speaker 2: or want the ability to maybe get a video as
Speaker 2: they come and no subscription, And that's Jupiter jets and
Speaker 2: three X like free x. Just throwing that out there,
Speaker 2: but you should subscribe because it's a much better deal
Speaker 2: for what you get. But yeah, but I throw it
Speaker 2: out there for those who are afraid of commitment. I
Speaker 2: see you.
Speaker 1: I understand links to that will be in the episode description.
Speaker 1: But my listeners, I don't want to hear you being cheap.
Speaker 1: I want you to go over to Jupiter Jets and
Speaker 1: on only fans. We will be right back. Pleas to
Speaker 1: jumping more back with my guest today Jupiter Jets, and
Speaker 1: make sure you go follow her only fans at Jupiter
Speaker 1: Jets and she is a free one. Make sure you
Speaker 1: go pay for it though, please or do you have
Speaker 1: pay per views on the free one?
Speaker 2: I do. That's what I was letting people know. That's
Speaker 2: why if you are afraid of commitment but you would
Speaker 2: like to still get in on the action, you can
Speaker 2: always get go like kind of a pay as you
Speaker 2: go model where I do send out messages with pay
Speaker 2: per views. You can always request videos and I will
Speaker 2: send them out pay per view. Unfortunately, you don't get
Speaker 2: the discounts and promotions that I run on my paid page.
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes there's a cost to being afraid
Speaker 2: of commitment.
Speaker 1: I understand. Sign up for the paid one Jupiter Jets
Speaker 1: and Jupiter I have a game for you today. Have
Speaker 1: you ever played scategories?
Speaker 2: I have actually not.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not this game, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Hey, don't.
Speaker 1: This is a game I like to call porn words.
Speaker 1: Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but
Speaker 1: with porn stars and porn related categories. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to give you a clue for the correct answer, and
Speaker 1: your job is to tell me what the word is. Okay.
Speaker 1: I can't say anything within the answer. You can pass
Speaker 1: at any time. There's still time on the clock. Will
Speaker 1: come back to it, and uh to not seem like
Speaker 1: a crazy hack. You have sixty nine seconds to answer ten.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna describe it
Speaker 1: to you like if I said, if I'm doing this right,
Speaker 1: what am I doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're driving a car?
Speaker 1: Perfect, there you go there one point would be for you.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was like, double.
Speaker 1: Understand, double jerking, Yeah, ski polling, I understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one, all right. I love that.
Speaker 1: What poland I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: That's that's a colm.
Speaker 2: I didn't invent that, don't I've never That is amazing.
Speaker 1: Especially for an outdoorsy girl like you. It's wonderful. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put sixty nine seconds on the clock. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna describe these things to you. They are porn related terms.
Speaker 1: You tell me if you can identify the term.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Go end of the scene on the this finishing here
Speaker 1: o facial Okay. Number two, a bunch of guys, one
Speaker 1: girl just the top.
Speaker 2: Oh blow bang.
Speaker 1: There you go. Number three dressing up kind of like
Speaker 1: an animal cury. Okay, oh, not not with this, with
Speaker 1: the other part this, but with the other lower the
Speaker 1: bottom of your body. There you go. Number six. This
Speaker 1: sounds weird. Black people and white people together.
Speaker 2: Oh, interracial.
Speaker 1: There you go. Number seven. Take a drink of this water. Okay,
Speaker 1: I apologize, we'll discuss difords. Well, the game's going. Number seven,
Speaker 1: uh down down this way down. There you go. Number
Speaker 1: eight up and in to the left. I've heard brass.
Speaker 2: Ah g spot.
Speaker 1: There you go. Number nine, drink too much water. Now
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot this type of scene. Squirt yeah,
Speaker 1: and number ten all the way back deep throat ten
Speaker 1: for ten with three seconds left.
Speaker 2: A and I've made an objection to questionable and problematic
Speaker 2: porn term.
Speaker 1: I would like to talk about that. So for the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker though, according to ia FD dot com, which is
Speaker 1: absolutely not accurate enough for your priest, how many male
Speaker 1: performers have you worked with? Mainstream male performers? Now, look,
Speaker 1: that number is going to be totally different. You've shot
Speaker 1: private scenes that are not on this number. I'm just
Speaker 1: referring to the number itself.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea, because there's like ten porn
Speaker 2: dicks hold up the whole industry. Oh god, let's stay twelve.
Speaker 1: Not bad nineteen nineteen nineteen. Yeah, well he look at that.
Speaker 2: Okay, out my European one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They would have to be like main
Speaker 1: mainstream sites, I think.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, mainstream Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, for sure, yes, yes, yes, wow.
Speaker 1: Well that was a phenomenal job you did. Now let's
Speaker 1: get into problematic stuff. The term that I used there before, uh, interracial?
Speaker 1: Why is that offensive to you?
Speaker 2: Or not? Or no?
Speaker 1: Or what is your objection to it? I should say
Speaker 1: so my objection.
Speaker 2: My objection is that you know it? How do I say?
Speaker 2: It creates a category of otherness when the experience of
Speaker 2: having sex with somebody of a different race is just sex,
Speaker 2: And I feel like inter racial business in any way
Speaker 2: describe the sex act taking place. It doesn't describe the
Speaker 2: actual activities. All it describes is if you want to
Speaker 2: fetishize somebody of another race, this is what you're going
Speaker 2: to watch. And I mean, I'm not necessarily the one
Speaker 2: to break down the problematic history of you know, porn
Speaker 2: fetishizing black specifically. It tends. I mean, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: Asians have it pretty hard in the pin industry as well,
Speaker 2: But when people are talking about interracial, they're usually not
Speaker 2: talking about Asians and Hispanics having sex with each other. Sure,
Speaker 2: you know, as a matter of fact, I don't even
Speaker 2: I doubt that that scene would even be tagged at
Speaker 2: inter racial. What they are talking about specifically is black
Speaker 2: with white. They're talking, they're generally speaking about that, and
Speaker 2: that is there's a whole problematic history of using black
Speaker 2: people as breeding stock, which is that's the fetish that
Speaker 2: that's playing into. And I mean, it's actually why whenever
Speaker 2: I work, if you look at my body of words,
Speaker 2: I work with people, all genders, all races, all body types.
Speaker 2: Like That's my favorite thing about porn is that it's
Speaker 2: normalizing sexual expression of all kinds. I think that when
Speaker 2: you tag things as interracial or BBC all of that,
Speaker 2: all that serves to do is to further take us
Speaker 2: further away from normalization. You're othering that category when really
Speaker 2: it's just two people have.
Speaker 1: Accepts for sure. Yeah, I'm I'm not. Let me just
Speaker 1: play a little devil's advocate here only because I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you. Like everything you said was made total
Speaker 1: sense to me. It seems like though, and I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but there are a lot of different
Speaker 1: visual categories in porn. It seems like, I guess there's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing different about you except for your redhead. So
Speaker 1: what do we put that under? Like red head, you know, tattooed,
Speaker 1: any of that. I don't have a I don't I
Speaker 1: do not have a problem if anyone feels any way
Speaker 1: about sex. I think that's the coolest thing. It's between
Speaker 1: you and whoever you're with in the room, as long
Speaker 1: as no one's under eighteen or with animals. I'm like,
Speaker 1: totally fine with it. You're good.
Speaker 2: But well, I mean, go ahead, I will say though,
Speaker 2: not to not to beat up the devil, but I
Speaker 2: feel like having those categories is just a side effect
Speaker 2: of people not recognizing pornography as the art form that
Speaker 2: it is. When we listen to music, we don't say
Speaker 2: I want an all dude band, I want all Like
Speaker 2: where's the Canadian mail rock section, or where's the Canadian
Speaker 2: male section. I'm the musing store, where is the you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I know that makes total sense, and I.
Speaker 2: Understand, you know, people being like, well, I have a
Speaker 2: thing for this specific person. And to that, I say, perhaps,
Speaker 2: in the era of you know, the subscription based pornography,
Speaker 2: maybe time for people to maybe start thinking of us
Speaker 2: as people and not as categories. Finding performers you like
Speaker 2: and then seeing who they work with. You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe if people thought of us as people and not
Speaker 2: interchangeable parts, like oh man, I really want to watch
Speaker 2: a redhead getting cloud, maybe we wouldn't see here.
Speaker 1: That's that's not an unfair point. I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's a really smart point. I just I worry
Speaker 1: that we may lose work for certain people who fall
Speaker 1: within certain niches, like if it's a bigger girl, maybe
Speaker 1: there are specific sections for that. No, tell me why
Speaker 1: you're wrong, Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: The reason why you are wrong about that, though, is
Speaker 2: actually because of the very strict categorization of the porn
Speaker 2: industry as it currently stands. Actually, people who don't fit
Speaker 2: neatly into one box lose out on work because they'll say, oh,
Speaker 2: I really you know, there will be a scene, and
Speaker 2: really the premise of the scene is just man has
Speaker 2: sex with women who came to fix her plumbing. But
Speaker 2: because someone wrote the scene and said it's got to
Speaker 2: be a redhead who does this, then a black woman
Speaker 2: who is available tested professional, well, she doesn't fit. It's
Speaker 2: not an interracial scene, so we're not going to book her.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 2: It's not a BBW scene, so we're not going to
Speaker 2: book her because it's not a BBW scene. We're not
Speaker 2: going to book your her because it's not a redhead.
Speaker 2: When you reduce people to fetishes, it means that they're
Speaker 2: only going to be booked for the scenes that fetishize them.
Speaker 2: In particular, as opposed to someone who's just a ambiguously
Speaker 2: white brunette is not going to be only cast in
Speaker 2: brunette scene. Somebody who is a you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: it actually limits your reach and your range when in
Speaker 2: actuality we are just sexual olympians.
Speaker 1: Taking it back to Zeus, to catholetes, decatholics. Exactly, you're versatile,
Speaker 1: you can do multiple exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, yeah, No, I actually I think it
Speaker 2: serves nobody. But the simplistic nature of deciding the kind
Speaker 2: of content you're going to make base upon an algorithm.
Speaker 1: M okay, yeah, well but we did start off talking
Speaker 1: about SEO.
Speaker 2: Yes, but there are other ways to gain SEO. If
Speaker 2: people are going I'm just saying, if you were to
Speaker 2: focus on the sex acts being performed and offered a
Speaker 2: gallery of diverse models, people could find what they want.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think that, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So are you against categorizing whatsoever? Or are you comfortable
Speaker 1: in something like I may not come I mean.
Speaker 2: To be fair, No, I'm actually I would say, I mean,
Speaker 2: I know it's somewhat unavoidable, but actually I'm generally speaking
Speaker 2: not pro categorization because especially you'll hear this talked about
Speaker 2: a lot in foreign media, and like the documentaries that
Speaker 2: explore Peorn I've heard it time and again, is that
Speaker 2: there is kind of a dead zone for foreign actresses.
Speaker 2: Like I count myself very lucky. I didn't get into
Speaker 2: porn until my late twenties, so I was already out
Speaker 2: of that dead zone when I entered the industry. But
Speaker 2: there is teen and there's milk once you turn like
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two. Unless you keep that like Riley reed,
Speaker 2: baby face, you don't get consistent work until you're twenty nine,
Speaker 2: thirty thirty one, you have there is no and I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but that is the age of most that most men
Speaker 2: want to want to masturbate to women. It's like most
Speaker 2: men want to masturbate to twenty one to thirty year old,
Speaker 2: I mean and older. But my point being, people don't
Speaker 2: like there is no category that serves to book women
Speaker 2: between the ages of twenty one and thirty. So there
Speaker 2: is a nine year dead zone in every performer, every
Speaker 2: mainstream performer's career as the useless dead zone, like and
Speaker 2: nobody has thought to invent like the babe category. You know,
Speaker 2: it's really ridiculous. So I personally don't think I think
Speaker 2: that actually having strictly categorized porn actually limits the variety
Speaker 2: available on the porn market.
Speaker 1: You just you're cutting You're you're giving these brilliant answers
Speaker 1: to everything that I'm trying to get around, trying to
Speaker 1: weasele my way around. How about like a number of
Speaker 1: people in this No, I think it's it's the most
Speaker 1: insightful take I've ever heard on this, and I've had
Speaker 1: conversations on this before. Yeah, yeah, I have questions of
Speaker 1: follow up on that. But how about just like number
Speaker 1: of people in the scene. Can you give me that?
Speaker 1: Can you give me like two guys and a girl?
Speaker 1: And then I'll just.
Speaker 2: Well that that describes the sex act.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? So we can describe maybe not the people.
Speaker 2: That's well, that's exactly it. I think that the important
Speaker 2: thing would be to describe the sex act. Okay, and
Speaker 2: you can you can describe the fetish, you know, if
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of faux sest in the industry,
Speaker 2: people make jokes about all the time. I think that
Speaker 2: that's another symptom of al arhythmic content decisions. But I
Speaker 2: digress because not the conversation, but I think that if
Speaker 2: you give people the option of like, you know, there
Speaker 2: was a while there where I was really turned on
Speaker 2: by double penetration. You know, I googled double penetration and
Speaker 2: I would I was much younger I did not know
Speaker 2: to pay for my porn throwing that out there, but
Speaker 2: I would. I would look, and I would scroll through,
Speaker 2: and then I'd be like, oh that that tickles my tingle,
Speaker 2: and I'd click on a video. It was never I
Speaker 2: want to see a blonde getting tag teamed by two men.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is, if you want to get
Speaker 2: that specific, you can do the legwork of looking. Like
Speaker 2: when I want to shop for address, I can't just
Speaker 2: type in, no matter what, and no matter how specific
Speaker 2: I get with search terms, I'm gonna have to scroll
Speaker 2: through and find something that appeals to me. I don't
Speaker 2: see why porn is any different.
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. You don't you click on
Speaker 1: the image of a porn star, you know whatever the
Speaker 1: thumbnail is. You don't read you know, Hailey Spades dominated
Speaker 1: by BBC but like you don't want or tiny white
Speaker 1: girl dominant. Yeah I get it. I Yeah, I get it,
Speaker 1: And go ahead.
Speaker 2: And I will point out also that by giving people
Speaker 2: these options to so heavily censor their search results, you're
Speaker 2: actually missing out on people who might be oh, that's
Speaker 2: not my thing, but that looks really hot and clicking
Speaker 2: on something outside of.
Speaker 1: The genre as a viewer. I know I have favorite scenes,
Speaker 1: I have favorite performers, I have this and that. But
Speaker 1: you're right, sometimes you'll see something that comes along and
Speaker 1: you go, how the fuck did I miss this girl
Speaker 1: here exactly?
Speaker 2: And you missed her because everything is so algorithmically guided
Speaker 2: and tagged in with keywords, like I get tagged as
Speaker 2: a tattooed model constantly, and I do have tattoos, But
Speaker 2: I feel like calling me a tattooed model is somewhat
Speaker 2: of a misnomer because I don't necessarily think it's the
Speaker 2: first thing that people notice about me. I'm not incredibly heavy,
Speaker 2: heavily ta food, I have some tattoos, I'm a mil
Speaker 2: but I consistently I got accused of lying about my
Speaker 2: age on scrip chat last week, and I had my
Speaker 2: age listed as like four years younger than I am,
Speaker 2: and they were accusing me of aging myself up. They're like,
Speaker 2: you're not thirty, and I'm like, you're.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you look looker than that. Well phenomenal. You
Speaker 1: look phenomenal for whatever you are you But that's.
Speaker 2: My point, though, is it's all of this deeply discounts.
Speaker 2: It takes away the individuality, and it does take away
Speaker 2: some of Like, I know it sounds kind of silly,
Speaker 2: but the reason why porn is legal is because it
Speaker 2: was recognized as a form of art by the court,
Speaker 2: like pornography is art.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound crazy at all. I have an autograph
Speaker 1: picture hanging, you know, up in my office of Larry Flint,
Speaker 1: only because you know Larry. Why my thing about Larry
Speaker 1: Flint is just always fault for free speech and I
Speaker 1: love I've been on Twitter lately and I'll keep my
Speaker 1: views to myself, but there's been some political opinions that
Speaker 1: I agree with some people on In the last few days.
Speaker 1: It's been very anti porn, and I start looking at
Speaker 1: like a lot of people who will say other amendments matter,
Speaker 1: but then we'll chastise porn and give shit to porn
Speaker 1: and whatever else. Hey, I'm sorry if the first or
Speaker 1: or what doesn't matter, none of them do well.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, I mean, we're at a
Speaker 2: weird time not to get because you live in fantasy
Speaker 2: world where all of the girls want to have sex
Speaker 2: with their pizza delivery man. But there is very much
Speaker 2: so a very troubling anti porn, anti sexuality, anti sex
Speaker 2: education push going on right now, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know at the end of the day. It's these
Speaker 2: things come in waves. I think that very much. So
Speaker 2: we're looking at a kind of rough couple of years,
Speaker 2: and I think that people will that they want to
Speaker 2: masturbate and that there's no such thing as an addiction
Speaker 2: to a necessary biological impulse. Like if we didn't have
Speaker 2: the urge to touch our genitals, we wouldn't exist. And
Speaker 2: that is literal. I literally mean if we did not
Speaker 2: want to masturbate, humans wouldn't exist. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, So this.
Speaker 2: Whole idea of like no fap white supremacy, it can't
Speaker 2: I'm a white supremacist, so I can't touch my dick
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I mean, like it flies in the
Speaker 2: face of science, like take completely remove morality from it.
Speaker 2: If you want more humans to exist, you have to
Speaker 2: be comfortable touching your face.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how it's snowballs too, because early on, like
Speaker 1: the no fapping thing, whatever it was, I think it
Speaker 1: was meant as like dudes who were like like had
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: Oh if this was an this was an educational podcast,
Speaker 2: trust me, I highly encourage everybody to google and really
Speaker 2: go down the deep dive of where the novap originates.
Speaker 2: It originates, That's why I mentioned white supremacy. It actually
Speaker 2: originates in white supremacist evangelical Christian roots. So like it
Speaker 2: very much. So it disguises itself as like more of
Speaker 2: like one of the trendy kind of like alpha male,
Speaker 2: I'm a big dude kind of it has the same
Speaker 2: roots as the you know current that's basically the same
Speaker 2: people who bring you morality in the media, now known
Speaker 2: as Exodus Cry or no, no, they sorry, it's not
Speaker 2: Exodus Cry. Exodus Cry is just affiliate with them. They
Speaker 2: actually rebranded to and Cozy, which is the National Center
Speaker 2: on Sexual Exploitation, So now they sound really official, but
Speaker 2: they're still just morality in the media. They're a Christian
Speaker 2: group that doesn't want foreign to exist. Actually, and Cozy
Speaker 2: is the group that has been pushing all of the
Speaker 2: age verification laws and all of the you know, anti
Speaker 2: porn bills, which anybody in porn will tell you, well,
Speaker 2: yes we want age verification. We want it at the
Speaker 2: device level.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: If you want to give your kids an iPad.
Speaker 1: Can we can we talk about that for a second,
Speaker 1: because I think so many people are confused by that.
Speaker 1: They're saying, Okay, porn Hub is blocked in Texas right now,
Speaker 1: because they obviously were just sem using the media narrative
Speaker 1: behind it. They really just wanted a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: kids on it. So instead they're going to just shut
Speaker 1: it off entirely, rather than all the kids that would
Speaker 1: flood in and click all the ads and sign up
Speaker 1: with their fucking American Express cards.
Speaker 2: Like I think there's kids don't have credit cards.
Speaker 1: There's no logic to it. Yes, I go ahead, yeah, please, kids.
Speaker 2: Don't have credit cards. So here's the thing. No one
Speaker 2: wants children on their porn site. Okay, I've had people,
Speaker 2: I've had I've had people who admit to being under
Speaker 2: a team who message me on my Twitter. They are
Speaker 2: immediately and without question blocked. I don't even respond to
Speaker 2: them to tell them why they are blocked. They just
Speaker 2: suddenly can't see my boots. No one wants them there,
Speaker 2: and we all want page verifications. The problem with the
Speaker 2: laws that they are putting forth for age verification is
Speaker 2: that they actually put every person who takes part in
Speaker 2: the current version of the age verification that the Christian
Speaker 2: right wants and the Republican right wants is something that's
Speaker 2: going to put users at risk. You know how you
Speaker 2: get those emails that say, like your information was found
Speaker 2: in a breach.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Pornhub is the single most I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: the most popular website on the Internet, but it's it's.
Speaker 1: Up there, Yeah, it's up there.
Speaker 2: It's it has to be in the top five on
Speaker 2: the Internet. Probably hackers large and small would be making
Speaker 2: that their target. And already I'm sure already do to
Speaker 2: get user information if you had to uplate upload a
Speaker 2: government ID and a credit card any time you want
Speaker 2: to use it. Because the way that these laws are written,
Speaker 2: mind you, is not one time verification. It is constant reverification,
Speaker 2: which some of these sites actually logging you out after
Speaker 2: I think it's like twenty minutes to reverify. So mid fab,
Speaker 2: you got to pull out your ID and do biometric scanning.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And the whole point is not to stop kids from
Speaker 2: accessing it. It's to make it so inconvenient that adults
Speaker 2: don't want to access it, which then does not stop
Speaker 2: porn from existing. It starts driving track, it driving traffic
Speaker 2: to the underground websites that are stealing pornography, not age
Speaker 2: verifying performers, which is the bigger danger. Okay, if you
Speaker 2: don't want people being traffic for the purpose of sexual
Speaker 2: exploitation on camera, you want to make sure that they
Speaker 2: are having their IDs verified, that everybody who is uploading
Speaker 2: porn is doing so with a government name and idea attached.
Speaker 2: If you're stealing porn from you know, creampiegirls, dot net,
Speaker 2: slash fi o, you're not getting an age verified video.
Speaker 2: You're not even getting a consent verified video. Coornhub takes
Speaker 2: great length to verify both names. I have to do
Speaker 2: biometric scans, upload my ID, I have to sign I
Speaker 2: have what's called a twenty two to fifty seven, which
Speaker 2: is a verification of identity. I also have to do
Speaker 2: an individualized model consent checklist, and I have to upload
Speaker 2: proof of those with IDs with a photo of my
Speaker 2: costar holding their IDs next to their faith. For every
Speaker 2: single video, there is no such thing as oh, well,
Speaker 2: I filmed with this person so I can upload it here. No,
Speaker 2: every video, every time has those formed and ideas attached.
Speaker 2: What they are doing is making it more dangerous for adults,
Speaker 2: consenting happy adults to actually access ethical legal porn. They're
Speaker 2: making it just like they did with foss A Sesta.
Speaker 2: They're making it harder to track abuse, so we're against that.
Speaker 1: Plus none of the kids are going to go to
Speaker 1: the website anymore, so there's always that I'm just kidding,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with you. I understand. That was why it
Speaker 1: was a brilliant breakdown. I don't think people understand what
Speaker 1: it is because it depending upon your political aisle. It
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, no one should have porn whatsoever, and.
Speaker 2: Then the part is an issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is. It really is.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no, no, no place,
Speaker 2: but really what it is, it's the latest It is
Speaker 2: the latest iteration of if we say it's to protect children,
Speaker 2: people will go along with it when they don't recognize
Speaker 2: the implications for your online privacy and security. You know,
Speaker 2: sexual proclivity has always historically been used to blackmail people.
Speaker 2: Giving a treasure trove of information about individualized users on
Speaker 2: a porn website. Is it's terrible like those in combination
Speaker 2: as a recipe for disaster. And anybody who has seen
Speaker 2: the Ashley Madison documentary.
Speaker 1: Well I just watched it too, nights, we'll attest to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're trying, and that's what we're trying
Speaker 2: to prevent. That's when we blot when we are saying
Speaker 2: we're anti age verification, it is not that we want
Speaker 2: kids on the website. It's that we want the people
Speaker 2: who consume pornography to be safe while they're doing it,
Speaker 2: you know, and we want performers to be compensated. So
Speaker 2: basically the answer is age verification, yes, but at the
Speaker 2: device level, parental controls on your children's devices, that is
Speaker 2: what we all want, and instead we are getting this
Speaker 2: because parental controls on devices does not make sex worker
Speaker 2: lives harder. It does not make it harder to access
Speaker 2: for and that's the actual goal.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, My guests today, Jupiter gestion, She just
Speaker 1: did the greatest breakdown I've ever heard and the most
Speaker 1: easy to understand. Like that may have to be a
Speaker 1: breakout clip that I make for this episode because so
Speaker 1: many people just don't understand it, and it's so funny
Speaker 1: because the same people. Again, I'm just I'm picking on
Speaker 1: Texas on this one, no reason to, just just because
Speaker 1: I know they're the one that blocked it off. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Utah maybe did something similar, but.
Speaker 2: The list is, it's actually a fairly intimidating list right now.
Speaker 1: I'm positive every one of those states yells and screams
Speaker 1: about individual freedoms and personal responsibilities and everything else, and
Speaker 1: then when it comes to point, it's like, nah, and
Speaker 1: now we can't trust you to be responsible enough to
Speaker 1: put a block on your kid's phone. We'll just cut
Speaker 1: the whole thing off.
Speaker 2: I just love the sheer volume of boomers who discovered
Speaker 2: in one day, what a v.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, we are going to
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Speaker 1: letting me know why I was wrong. And that may
Speaker 1: sound like I'm being shitty or rude about it. I'm
Speaker 1: actually not. I love love, love different perspectives, and I
Speaker 1: love people explaining to me why something is. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've learned a lot more I would. I believe
Speaker 1: you mentioned before you did have a period where you
Speaker 1: enjoyed DP correct. Yes, Okay, well, then I have quite
Speaker 1: the game for you. Let's play Ladies. Choice. At least
Speaker 1: Choice is a game where you, the world famous porn star,
Speaker 1: get to build your own celebri the fantasy gang bang. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick the individuals.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna spin these wheels which you can't see,
Speaker 1: but the people at home can, okay, and they're going
Speaker 1: to form your group. There's an act bay, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: an actor wheel, and then there's just a guy. Okay.
Speaker 1: Your job building this gang bang is to tell me
Speaker 1: who goes where. I understand in an actual one, we're
Speaker 1: all constantly in rotation, like planets orbiting a sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try and use some logical on why you
Speaker 1: would pick these people for what? Okay.
Speaker 2: Side note, I have once had the concept. I've had
Speaker 2: the concept of Jupiter and her eighty eight moons, because
Speaker 2: there are eighty eight moons of Jupiter and there. It's
Speaker 2: a debatable number, but I I have made the orbit
Speaker 2: the moons in orbit. It's too many, dudes. I can't
Speaker 2: find eighty eight porn dudes, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: How would you maybe if I did like the like
Speaker 2: the twelve major moons, I did the twelve major moon.
Speaker 1: Would it be like a gang bang or BOUKACKI or like,
Speaker 1: how would you do that? How do you think you
Speaker 1: would form that?
Speaker 2: It's too many movies, it's too many moving cards. So
Speaker 2: let's get to our gang bang.
Speaker 4: Wonderful we spin the wheels here, let's play Lady's Choice.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Jason.
Speaker 2: Momoa, Ted Bundy.
Speaker 1: Jupiter Jesson, your contestants for today's Ladies Choice. Number one
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, five year, two hundred and seventy five million
Speaker 1: dollar contract, just signed quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. Looker,
Speaker 1: I think he's handsome. That's just me good looking country boy.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a bad picture. Number two Jason Momoa. You'll
Speaker 1: know him as Aquaman or from Game of Thrones. It's
Speaker 1: one of the sexiest men in Hollywood. Now, unfortunately, you
Speaker 1: did draw a bad stroll on your wild cart Ted Bundy.
Speaker 1: Now the pros are he did go to law school.
Speaker 1: That's cool, right, Unfortunately he did kill thirty people. Are
Speaker 1: you a true crime fan at all?
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't say a fan, but I know
Speaker 2: plenty about.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm not a fan of it in life.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do it for Ted Bundy.
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think.
Speaker 2: I was thinking of Ed Dean for a second. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the boys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So here's here's where the logic comes in. Right, if
Speaker 1: you have a guy in your third spot here who's
Speaker 1: a strangler, do you really want them behind you?
Speaker 2: Actually? Yes, because I want Jason Momoa in front of me.
Speaker 2: So I already had this parked up before the wheeling
Speaker 2: was stopped fitting Okay, already knew how this was going
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: So are we going Jason Momoa mouth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Momoa in the face. Just I would stuck
Speaker 2: the soul out of that man's dick. Sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: like to speak super explicitly about like celebrities, so my
Speaker 2: apologies to mister Momoa. I have nothing but respect. You
Speaker 2: know what I loved his show about, like him, like
Speaker 2: going around making dirt bikes like that was so freaking cute,
Speaker 2: wholesome content. That would be a very wholesome blow job anyway.
Speaker 2: But I didn't do this to you. This was somebody else.
Speaker 2: I don't You didn't ask to be objectified. And I'm sorry, sir,
Speaker 2: but yes, I would suck the soul out of your dick.
Speaker 2: And Captain mcsportsy over there, I don't know his name,
Speaker 2: but he looks like he'd be a good bass you know,
Speaker 2: so like i'd probably take him in the front because
Speaker 2: I've got two big beefy dudes to the front. If
Speaker 2: weird he mcwirdson tries to do anything from the back,
Speaker 2: i'd imagine either one of them punch him out. Okay,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, so he could get the butthole because he
Speaker 2: also has really small dig at her like small dick energy.
Speaker 2: He gets the butt and I got my other two dudes.
Speaker 2: I've got my ground floor and my front end.
Speaker 1: Covered infallible logic there, but also not uncommon, having played
Speaker 1: this game a few times now, most girls are assuming
Speaker 1: third guy, uh, small dick, and you know what, it's
Speaker 1: not a bad assumption. So if you're someone who's go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, well and he specifically is if you have to
Speaker 2: actually go out and like rape, strangle and murder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're compensating. Sure, Like, yeah, you're compensating. It's not like
Speaker 2: like you. There's no way, no way that man was
Speaker 2: packing a coke can. No, I'll eat, I'll eat my hat.
Speaker 2: There's no way.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is there a way you can
Speaker 1: translate this sounds dumb? Let me explain fully? Is there
Speaker 1: way you can translate your intelligence into even more income
Speaker 1: than you're making? Now? I only say this because you
Speaker 1: have such a good perspective on the industry. Would you
Speaker 1: have interest in things like producing, directing, or even managing?
Speaker 2: Oh god, yes, yeah, I actually I'm still in the
Speaker 2: learning phase because some things like videography, you know, and
Speaker 2: like lighting and photography were never like personally like hyper
Speaker 2: focuses of mine, if you will. But I actually like
Speaker 2: I've already taken my hand. I guess I could technically say,
Speaker 2: I mean, technically speaking, my award was for like production
Speaker 2: and starring because East Bay Brats is just a five
Speaker 2: person operation. We do everything ourselves, and all of the
Speaker 2: scenes I make on my website, like for a while there,
Speaker 2: I used to outsource my only fans. Now if you
Speaker 2: sign up for my Only Fans. My response time is slow,
Speaker 2: but it's me who's responding good one hundred percent of
Speaker 2: the time. Nobody else touches my only Fans. And when
Speaker 2: I had a management company, their complaint was that, you know,
Speaker 2: all your stuff is just too high production value, Like
Speaker 2: it's not really only a band's quality, it's it's studio quality.
Speaker 2: And it's because I do have an eye for that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. And that's that's absolutely something that I,
Speaker 2: you know, would like to explore as my career goes on.
Speaker 2: But right now, I'm just still in the looking and
Speaker 2: listening and learning from people who are better at it
Speaker 2: than I am. Like, but I always make note of
Speaker 2: how people set their things up, and you know, I've
Speaker 2: been doing some soft research on cameras and all of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I do a side no,
Speaker 1: You're good, year, I apologize. I do a sideshow where
Speaker 1: I also interview a side show actually sounds worse than
Speaker 1: a separate podcast. That's great now, Yeah, yeah, where I
Speaker 1: interview newer performers who seem like they have good work ethic,
Speaker 1: Like I'll check their history. I'll make sure you know
Speaker 1: that they're posting, but not a lot of followers. And
Speaker 1: I try and like do a little introduction to the industry,
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to pick up on all the major stuff.
Speaker 1: And I go to your Twitter thing and there's no
Speaker 1: link tree or all my links. It's like, that is
Speaker 1: we got to get, you know, all of that set up.
Speaker 1: I think you would be so great at not that
Speaker 1: you're not a phenomenal performer, you are, but I the knowledge.
Speaker 1: I think you could really help a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you'd make money out of it, though,
Speaker 1: just managing all yeah.
Speaker 2: And see, that's see, And that's the thing is I
Speaker 2: and this is not to say that it is an
Speaker 2: inherently unethical job to be the manager of someone else,
Speaker 2: Like it's a necessary job. Honestly, if I could find
Speaker 2: a company that actually works to my standard, I would
Speaker 2: love to be able to outsource some of the work
Speaker 2: of my performing. However, I personally, I mean, I always
Speaker 2: tell new performers, like if you have any questions, any performers,
Speaker 2: any sex workers in general, like I'm and I'm sure
Speaker 2: like there are there are plenty of people who can
Speaker 2: attest like I'm an open book. I don't believe in
Speaker 2: gatekeeping knowledge. I don't believe that just because I had
Speaker 2: to get stiffed on this paycheck means that you need
Speaker 2: to get stiffed on the paycheck too to learn the lesson.
Speaker 2: And I also don't feel comfortable, not that I think
Speaker 2: it's wrong, because I do believe that people should be
Speaker 2: compensated for their time and their labor and all that,
Speaker 2: but I feel more like it's a karmic gift if
Speaker 2: you will, to go back and forth with information with
Speaker 2: other sex workers. So I've never considered monetizing that facet
Speaker 2: of my job, you know, But that's just because I'm
Speaker 2: deeply uncomfortable, inherently with the concept of, like, let me
Speaker 2: help you get good at this job and give me
Speaker 2: money to do it, because what if I'm not capable
Speaker 2: of me you know, like you know, like I just
Speaker 2: what if what I'm offering you is something that with
Speaker 2: you know, me just giving you a little bit of
Speaker 2: information you're perfectly capable of doing on your own, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't feel like a karmically good thing. So I
Speaker 2: have never considered that. But directing producer saying things like.
Speaker 1: That mentoring too, I mean, maybe you don't have to
Speaker 1: charge anything for that, But it seems like you're willing
Speaker 1: to talk to younger. Did you have anyone mentor you
Speaker 1: when you came in or it was it since age
Speaker 1: or no, sin.
Speaker 2: I tell people I've called her. I called her then
Speaker 2: I call her my poorn mommy and she thought it
Speaker 2: was sweet. But yeah, we've actually never done a stepmommy video,
Speaker 2: but we uh, you know, she gave me a ton
Speaker 2: of really valuable information. Uh, there is a courtesan who
Speaker 2: works up north Stable, Renee. She gave me just so
Speaker 2: much valuable information when I first got into the industry,
Speaker 2: you know, like the the very first day I worked
Speaker 2: in a strip club was because I had a friend
Speaker 2: of mine from the like gay like the LGBT youth
Speaker 2: group who happened to work at a strip club and
Speaker 2: her boyfriend worked security at a strip club. And she
Speaker 2: was like hearing me, like kind of freaking out because
Speaker 2: it was like, I'm moving out on my own next
Speaker 2: month and Taco Bell, which is where I was working,
Speaker 2: is not going to cut it. And she was like, well,
Speaker 2: this is an option. And she showed me dance moves
Speaker 2: and she helped me like learn how to be a
Speaker 2: dancer and that was how I managed to make enough
Speaker 2: money to go to school and move to New York
Speaker 2: and all of the things that put me on the
Speaker 2: path to where I am right now, you know which,
Speaker 2: I'm really happy with where my life has led. All
Speaker 2: of it kind of boils down to a woman at
Speaker 2: some point kind of being like, hey, you're absolutely capable
Speaker 2: of doing this is just how you do it X
Speaker 2: y Z, And not a single one of them ever
Speaker 2: asked me for a diet. So I just feel like
Speaker 2: that is kind of part of the sixth the Sisterhood
Speaker 2: of sex work.
Speaker 1: If you will, you know, yeah, yeah, I've heard horror
Speaker 1: stories sometimes in strip clubs, though on both I've heard
Speaker 1: everyone loves each other and they help each other out,
Speaker 1: and I've heard everyone is at each other's throats all
Speaker 1: the time. I guess that's really just going to depend
Speaker 1: on person and situation and area and customers.
Speaker 2: You know, It's funny, because I've experienced I think it
Speaker 2: all boiled down to management, because I've worked I've only
Speaker 2: worked at two brothels, and one of them and mind you,
Speaker 2: the one that I worked at where I got that
Speaker 2: wonderful help was from a girl at that brothel, So
Speaker 2: it wasn't a universal rule, but a first brothel I
Speaker 2: worked at, there was a ton of infighting and a
Speaker 2: very competitive spirit, you know. At the one I currently
Speaker 2: work at, there's none of that. We are all incredibly collaborative.
Speaker 2: We share our menu pricing, we share our negotiation kicks.
Speaker 2: I mean, like honestly, Like, I was just chatting this
Speaker 2: morning with another late day I work with, and we
Speaker 2: were kind of going back and forth about which books
Speaker 2: we've read and which have help like, you know, in
Speaker 2: regards to this business, and how they've helped us in
Speaker 2: which ones we kind of fell you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: it is a very collaborative spirit, and it entirely boils
Speaker 2: down to choices made by management. You know, we're not
Speaker 2: ranked by how much money we make all of the rooms.
Speaker 2: There's no like I've been here longer so I get
Speaker 2: this perk. It's all whether you've been here six years
Speaker 2: or six hours. We have the same rules that we
Speaker 2: all abide by. We have the same standards that we
Speaker 2: all abide by, and I feel like that, you know,
Speaker 2: in the same way with strip clubs, a lot of
Speaker 2: it boils down to does the manager believe that an
Speaker 2: air of competition is going to make them more money
Speaker 2: or do they believe that an air of collaboration is
Speaker 2: going to make them more money? And having seen both sides,
Speaker 2: I'm firmly on the side of I believe that collaboration
Speaker 2: makes the most money.
Speaker 1: I again more applying it towards a strip club thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand why they would be I understand,
Speaker 1: I guess I do understand, but you're right. To me,
Speaker 1: collaboration seems so much better. Like if you have a
Speaker 1: guy who's not interested in you, maybe you bring a
Speaker 1: friend over and go, would you do a two person
Speaker 1: dance or session whatever you want to call it, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're both getting paid on that one. And you
Speaker 1: got this girl work because you brought her over. And
Speaker 1: I don't understand why we can't all just have a
Speaker 1: nice give and take in the world.
Speaker 2: Well, some of it sometime, well you'll see a lot
Speaker 2: of discourse on the you know, especially on social media
Speaker 2: where like you know, sometimes in sex work Twitter, which
Speaker 2: most humans are not on, so you probably have not
Speaker 2: seen this on Twitter, but there'll be discussions of, oh,
Speaker 2: this girl is charging less and that's bringing down the
Speaker 2: standard for this and blah blah, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 2: a lot of that kind of comes down to this
Speaker 2: idea that we're all kind of fighting for a piece
Speaker 2: of the pie. Everybody's heard that phrase, you know, we're
Speaker 2: all we all want a piece of the pie. But
Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is, especially when it comes
Speaker 2: to the luxury industry, which the adult industry, all of
Speaker 2: the adult industry, is the luxury market. Nobody needs it
Speaker 2: to survive. No matter what, we are coming out of
Speaker 2: an entertainment budget, which makes us a luxury service. And
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that means that it
Speaker 2: is not a pie. This is a bakery. We are
Speaker 2: at whatever demand there is, we can make that happen.
Speaker 2: We can sell, we can make the product happen, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, it's not a finite market.
Speaker 2: It's not like, Okay, there's one hundred men who pay
Speaker 2: for their porn and we've got to fight from Like, no,
Speaker 2: it's it is a bakery. We are we are capable
Speaker 2: of as much growth as we are allow ourselves, if
Speaker 2: that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, it's it's meritocracy. It's you will earn
Speaker 1: based on how much you work, how much you present
Speaker 1: to the industry how much you know.
Speaker 2: Now, yes and no, Yes and no. Well, because I mean, like,
Speaker 2: we don't exist in a vacuum. You know, racism, ableism,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, fat phobia, these things all do still
Speaker 2: affect your income. Like I, as a skinny, conventionally attractive
Speaker 2: white woman, am going to have to put in half
Speaker 2: of the effort to make the same amount of money
Speaker 2: as somebody with a similar like as a woman with
Speaker 2: a similar level of attractiveness and a similar a similar
Speaker 2: level of you know, followers, even I will have I
Speaker 2: if I had more melanin, I would absolutely have to
Speaker 2: put in twice the amount of work to get the
Speaker 2: same amount of recognition, recognition because there is an inherent
Speaker 2: bias against us, and I'm not fighting against that, so
Speaker 2: I can't necessarily I'm not going to perpetuate a kind
Speaker 2: of bootstrapism about porn. Now, however, it is absolutely egalitarian
Speaker 2: in that anybody can make a living doing this. You
Speaker 2: don't even have to be hot, like you know, the
Speaker 2: middle aged, overweight men with a camera who make their
Speaker 2: living eyes many of it doing POV videos.
Speaker 1: Feels like she's talking to me, folks. Sounds like I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding.
Speaker 2: They get my heart. Okay they do. I love trying
Speaker 2: the harlots. I love all of the harlots, okay, whether
Speaker 2: no matter what you look like. But but to say
Speaker 2: that it's completely a meritocracy does ignore, you know, intersections
Speaker 2: of like you know, perceived class, perceived worthiness in society.
Speaker 2: Like that does absolutely translate to the point industry. But
Speaker 2: anybody can get a piece of pie from that bakery.
Speaker 2: Anybody can man the ovens if you will. It's just
Speaker 2: some people might have to lift a heavier gowal.
Speaker 1: What is on the horizon for you? Do we have
Speaker 1: any like major scenes planned? Did you have any firsts
Speaker 1: coming up? Do you anything like that?
Speaker 2: I have a couple of really exciting things, some of
Speaker 2: which I'm not allowed to talk about yet. One and
Speaker 2: one big one that I'm really excited about that I'm
Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about yet.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask me, let me pulls you. What
Speaker 1: date would you be able to talk about that? Yeah, no, idea,
Speaker 1: that's a fair enough when company.
Speaker 2: When companies shoot us, they don't give us like a day.
Speaker 2: The only the only projected date I have and I
Speaker 2: am allowed to talk about it is I have a
Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth theme VR scene, but it's not coming
Speaker 2: out until twenty twenty five. Get what are they They're
Speaker 2: so far ahead, it's a it's real, it's like real
Speaker 2: reality VR. They're like one of the bigger companies in
Speaker 2: Europe for VR.
Speaker 1: I guess it's more the inner workings. But I wonder
Speaker 1: if porn companies at all adjusted because of COVID, Like
Speaker 1: if they're stockpiling stuff more. I don't know who knows,
Speaker 1: like if they're stocked on footage or scenes to hold
Speaker 1: or you know.
Speaker 2: Well, in that specific case, I think it was partly
Speaker 2: so they flew me out for that scene. So like
Speaker 2: I I'm not look, I don't live in Prague. So
Speaker 2: but I think that because I shot multiple scenes for them,
Speaker 2: and that was the only one that I got a
Speaker 2: date for, So I think that most likely they probably
Speaker 2: are going to be releasing, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: scenes I shot for them, you know, in a couple
Speaker 2: of months, one in like six months, and then those
Speaker 2: are for like next year because I'm an American performer
Speaker 2: and they know they're not going to have me back
Speaker 2: for a little while, so they kind of gotcha got
Speaker 2: it that way, But I don't have we don't really
Speaker 2: get the dates for our stuff.
Speaker 1: I is VR porn hard to shoot? What is the
Speaker 1: experience of that?
Speaker 2: It's different and it is definitely harder than standard porn,
Speaker 2: just because the positions, Like people always talk about positions
Speaker 2: in standards like GameStream form being uncomfortable, and I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily find that to be the case. Like there will
Speaker 2: be different than the sex that I have off camera,
Speaker 2: but they still feel good. It's still fun, you know.
Speaker 2: I just have more mindful of how I'm angoying myself,
Speaker 2: but with me are because there are some very specific
Speaker 2: angles you have to be at, and very specific like dimensions,
Speaker 2: because it starts looking really weird and like curved if
Speaker 2: you're at the wrong dimension. It's a little harder. I mean,
Speaker 2: I like it. It's I tell people all the time,
Speaker 2: it's like having sex with the robot from Short Circuit.
Speaker 2: You know, John five is really alive because there's like
Speaker 2: the camera is in between you and your costar, so
Speaker 2: like when you're looking into their eyes, you're looking at
Speaker 2: a sticker in between these two camera lens lenses, because
Speaker 2: that gives the effect of looking into the eyes. It's
Speaker 2: a little weird and uncanny valley, but it's I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like anything that kind of how do
Speaker 2: I say, takes me into something I haven't tried before,
Speaker 2: even if I might have like a sorer muscle or
Speaker 2: two the next day. It's like you, I never expected
Speaker 2: that day when I woke up, that I would be
Speaker 2: in a pamper van, like the upper deck of a camper,
Speaker 2: you know, with like twenty different pieces of equipment and
Speaker 2: three dudes hanging out in the little hallway trying to
Speaker 2: get the shot. Like that's even if it's uncomfortable, it's
Speaker 2: objectively hilarious. Like for that alone, it gets my luck.
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Speaker 1: It was insightful. I don't know that we talked about
Speaker 1: porn that much, like actual Like it wasn't one of
Speaker 1: those interviews I assume you may have had at one
Speaker 1: point where it's like, so do you like anal or
Speaker 1: what it's like? That Stuff's fine, and I understand why
Speaker 1: people tune in, but I find the people themselves more
Speaker 1: interesting personally.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it says about me, but most
Speaker 2: of my interviews tend to be noised like that. I
Speaker 2: don't normally get to the you know, I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe I talk a little too much to get to
Speaker 2: the so, so, where do you prefer to take a load?
Speaker 2: Like I never we never really get to that, Like
Speaker 2: we're a little too busy, like talking about the potential
Speaker 2: of life on other planets to you know, ever get
Speaker 2: to you know, load bearing holes.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming over tonight, Jeeper