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just go do it. Only fans at Jupiter Jets And,

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ladies and gentlemen, my guest today join me in welcoming

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the Spectacles Killer Jupiter Jets and Jupiter. How are you tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you right off the bat a quick

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question about your name? Of course, it'd be funny if

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we had all that talk beforehand about inappropriate and I

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was just like, what's your social Security number? No, your

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name wasn't always your name in the industry, was it?

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Speaker 2: It was not. No, I have been a woman of

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many names. Okay, Well, just too, just too this one

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and my current.

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Speaker 1: So why the rebrand because I see certain girls rebrand

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sometimes and I always just think, like, you had a

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cute name, you had a cute style. Was there something

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about your quote unquote brand at the time that you

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just didn't love?

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Speaker 2: I've so my brand because I'm almost incapable of keeping

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up a ruse twenty four to seven. My brand is

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basically just me, but with makeup on all the time.

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And so it's not that I had any issues with it.

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I actually really liked my first name, which my original

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name for those who might not be aware, was Nova Sky.

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But there were a couple of issues with it, namely

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that I, when I chose that name, I did not

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really necessarily realize just how much Internet search optimization mattered,

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and so I hadn't googled it first. I hadn't looked

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it up. And there were two major issues. One was

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that there's a hotel which is the Hotel Novas Guy,

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so any dedicated SEO they've put the years in. And

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on top of that, Nova's a nova exists in the sky.

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So there is not a single article ever that has

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been written that mentioned Nova's Sorry about him, that mentioned

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Nova's that does not mention the sky, so there was

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no I mean, you could google Nova Sky and you

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would have to go down page after page after page

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to find anything that even hinted in me. So that

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was the biggest issue. And so when I signed with

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my big girl agency, they suggested, you know, it's not

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the best for search engines. You know, maybe think of

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something that is a little bit more unique and easy

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to look for. So I landed. I knew I wanted

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to kind of keep the planetary vibe, you know, the

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inner the outer space vibe. And when I started working

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at the BROTHELS, I couldn't use the name Nova because

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there was another girl here name Nova. I random stand

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that happenstance, So I had to go by by my

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last name, which was a guy, and I went by

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Sky for the longest time here, And Jupiter is the

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god of the sky, so I thought that that was

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really cool, and I just wanted to go with an alliteration.

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So I initially actually wanted to be Jupiter Jones because

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I thought that was a great name with a great

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ring to somebody else agreed years ago and named the

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protagonist of their book Jupiter choone okay, okay, So I

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couldn't go with that, so I just kind of went

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down I know that it's probably not the most glamorous

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or interesting anth I should probably be f and just

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tell people I loved the Jetson, But I kind of

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went down the j names and figured out what had

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no Internet footprint, and so I landed on Jupiter jets in,

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which at the time, the only thing that came up

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when you Google that with a children's scooter called the

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Jetson Jupiter Scooter, which I don't know if I had

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anything to do with, but I would like to claim

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credit because it has recently rebranded. They still sell it.

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It's the same scooter, but now it is the Jetson

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Orbit Scooter. So I think that possibly a porn actress

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being the number one search result when you look up

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jets and Jupiter or Jupiter Jetson possibly may have influenced.

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Speaker 1: The I was gonna say, you know, they didn't put

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in the time on SEO like you did, so now

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they're the ones that have to change their name. It

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all makes sense going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think I genuinely do, like think that

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that might have played a small part in it. Just

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because like you were the debts and Jupiter for years.

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on it. And I love my name like I actually

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love my second name in ways that I never loved

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my first name, because I never chose the name Skuy.

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It was just I needed to choose a last name

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when I got to the brothel, and I didn't have

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one prepared, so I was like Sky, sure, but yeah,

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that's not a sexy answer. But there we are.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got to get you to film a scene

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with someone named Zeus because now listen, I understand they're

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coming on for these interviews with porn stars, but what

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I'm going to give is a little history on Latin here.

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I took four years of Latin in high school. Jupiter

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is the same in the Roman gods as Zeus and

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the other one. So we need a clash of the

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titans here and you can call it that steal that title.

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They're not going to sue you. Jupiter. How tell me

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what was your first scene that you ever shot?

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Speaker 2: Uh? The first scene I ever thought? Are we talking

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mainstream or indeed.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking the first time you commit to yourself. You're like,

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I'm not you know, a high school shooting a video

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with your boyfriend, but like, yeah, first time you're committing,

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me at least I want to try this. It's maybe

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a career even I mean, so.

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Speaker 2: The first time I ever did something like that, it

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actually I didn't think like this will be a career.

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It was like I'll try this because I say yes,

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yeah a lot. It was actually a custom video that

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was requested by one of my clients at the brothel.

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She was a big fan of the actress in stage,

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who is an absolute legend. Like when I saw this,

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what when I saw her first? I'll never forget the

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first time I saw her, Like my client pulled up

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her Instagram and was like, would you fill the scene

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with her? If I like, you know, ordered it and

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asked for it. And I was like, I mean absolutely,

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but there's no way she's gonna film with me. I'm

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a At the time, I had like six hundred followers,

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maybe maybe a little bit more than that. I might

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have had like one or two thousand, but still like

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absolute nobody on social media. And she said yes, and

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so I shot that scene with her, and her feedback

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was like phenomenal, like me and me and her actually

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still friends to day, but she was just like, you

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are really good at this, like you should consider this.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And she encouraged me to reach out to other performers

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and consider like making some films. And the second film

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I made ended up getting nominated for an award. It

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was East Bay Bratts with Courtney Trouble, Ludo Letro's Ruby

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Riot like that whole crew, and it got nominated for

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an award. So after I got done, you know, the

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world shut down for fourteen months for me and for

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everybody else, but I've hit in my house for the

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better part of the year, and when everything opened back up,

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I was like, you know, I'm taking that as design,

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and I applied to have an agent represent me for

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mainstream and I've been doing it ever since. But yeah,

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it was kind of just like another example of I

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say yes a lot, and let's see where it takes

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me sure, and then.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't like it next time, say no. You know,

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that's all just say yes the first time exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because the thing is, when I got into

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sex work, you know, I was I made the decision

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when I came to the brothel. Like after the first

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week that I was here and I was like, this

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is great. I love this where it's just been all

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my life. I kind of made the decision that I

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was going to be very out and very proud of

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the choices that I make. So, yeah, the way I

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thought it, I mean, I'm already out about being a

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sex worker. The worst case scenario is I just don't

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like filming it and I don't like how it works out,

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you know. But yeah, yeah, I didn't see any risk,

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only reward, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that first week when you worked at that brothel, though,

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I've heard stories of like girls going to strip clubs

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and like their second night in there's X amount of

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money and they're just hooked forever. Was it just the

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ability to dictate how much money you really want to

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make or was it the sex or was it the

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meeting interesting new people? Like after that first week when

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you really decided what locked it in for you that

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this is a career for me?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a combination of everything you mentioned,

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but it's something that you know, it was apparent even

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from you know, my big sister, Like I'll never forget

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my first negotiation was my very first night in the brothel,

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and you know, she watched my negotiation, and you know,

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I asked her, like, you know, any pointers, and She's like, oh, no,

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you got this, you got this. You're good, You're good,

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You're You're already there. You do not need any help.

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You are fine. Like I had like a natural and

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worked in sales for a long time. Sure, I already

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had like the skill set, and I already had a

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really clear idea of my work and what I bring

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to the table. So like I had a natural aptitude

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for it, and I didn't necessarily expect to have, you know,

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freedom that I you know, that's what I really prioritize,

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is being able to not know where I'm going to

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be in two years.

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Speaker 1: You know. But does that stop you from building any

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kind of milestones or anything to reach or is it

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just whatever happens in the day to day. I know

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there's still a target I'm going for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, of course I have goals like someday

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I want to be a little old lady, you know,

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taking care of the grounds of the campground that I manage,

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because I would like to. That's kind of like my

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big pie in the sky dream is I would love

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to like own a campground and maintain a campground. And

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that's kind of what I want for my retirement. Like it.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's a new one, But that's not crazy. I

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mean you seem very I mean we're outdoors right now.

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You seem like an outdoorsy fun person. I can't imagine. Uh,

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I guess you'd have to keep party kids off. You'd

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have to become that old lady who's like, hey, eighteen

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year old kids who are showing up here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I personally, I mean, do I have to care

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you know, well.

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Speaker 1: If they well, if on your campground a body is found,

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you may have to start worrying about that.

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Speaker 2: Well fair enough. But but but those are I would say,

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because okay, I mind you. I'm not trying to have

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like a party campground where I'm from. I'm from Cleveland,

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So like there's a party campground that's notorious called Nelson's Ledges.

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That's like where all the hippies and the burners and

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all of that go and hang out, gotcha, And every

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summer there's somebody who dies because they fall into the

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quarry and hit their head on something. That is not

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what I'm trying to do. I just want, basically to

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be able to hang out in the woods as an

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old lady. That's kind of the vibe I would like,

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you know. So I don't think it's particularly unattainable. I

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don't think it's a particularly lofty goal. I don't want

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world domination, you know. And uh, that's what I keep

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in mind, and I do set myself. You know. It's

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not that I have no goals, but I have an

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open mind as to where life will take me.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a large umbrella goal that

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you're going for, and whatever path gets you to that,

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you just don't want to stray off of that path.

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you can't be so structured in your daily life that

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you know, it's like a comfort and complacency is the thief.

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I don't know that's comparison is the thief of joy.

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But what is it. It's like, you know, comfort begins

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as a party guest, and then it's attending the party

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of your funeral. Like basically the whole vibe is that,

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you know, if you settle. Don't get me wrong, routines

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and comfort and stability are wonderful, but they also you know,

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is you know, still finding wonder and beauty and joy

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in kind of the mundane. And if every day you're

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seeing doing the same thing, eating the same food and

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talking to the same people, it can be really easy

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we really all should have because it's kind of outrageous

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that we exist.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, oh yeah, I mean we are just the

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luckiest planet, species, whatever you want to call it, in

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all of the universe that we know of, at least, and.

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Speaker 2: It's because maybe we're not no, maybe we're not.

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Speaker 1: Out at all. Sure, I think it's likely that there's

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plenty of intelligent life in the universe. I just don't

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know it. I'll ever reach look at this I'm talking

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to you fifteen minutes and Jupiter Jets in here has

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me talking about space and fucking universes and galaxies. I mean,

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this is incredible. We're going to take a quick break.

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We got a couple of games for you today. I

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have some inappropriate questions. No, I'm just kidding. I have

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some questions coming up for Jupiter here about her content,

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the future, where we're working towards, and what we're moving

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go over there and look at it and go, oh,

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Speaker 2: Okay, just going to throw it in there for those

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broke betties. I do have an absolutely free only fans

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three X like free x. Just throwing that out there,

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but you should subscribe because it's a much better deal

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for what you get. But yeah, but I throw it

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out there for those who are afraid of commitment. I

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see you.

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Speaker 1: I understand links to that will be in the episode description.

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But my listeners, I don't want to hear you being cheap.

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on only fans. We will be right back. Pleas to

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jumping more back with my guest today Jupiter Jets, and

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make sure you go follow her only fans at Jupiter

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Jets and she is a free one. Make sure you

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go pay for it though, please or do you have

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pay per views on the free one?

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Speaker 2: I do. That's what I was letting people know. That's

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why if you are afraid of commitment but you would

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like to still get in on the action, you can

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always get go like kind of a pay as you

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go model where I do send out messages with pay

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per views. You can always request videos and I will

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send them out pay per view. Unfortunately, you don't get

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the discounts and promotions that I run on my paid page.

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But you know, sometimes there's a cost to being afraid

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of commitment.

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Speaker 1: I understand. Sign up for the paid one Jupiter Jets

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and Jupiter I have a game for you today. Have

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you ever played scategories?

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Speaker 2: I have actually not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not this game, so don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, don't.

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Speaker 1: This is a game I like to call porn words.

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Porn Words is a lot like the game Password, but

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with porn stars and porn related categories. So I'm going

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to give you a clue for the correct answer, and

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your job is to tell me what the word is. Okay.

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I can't say anything within the answer. You can pass

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at any time. There's still time on the clock. Will

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come back to it, and uh to not seem like

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a crazy hack. You have sixty nine seconds to answer ten.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna describe it

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to you like if I said, if I'm doing this right,

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what am I doing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're driving a car?

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Speaker 1: Perfect, there you go there one point would be for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was like, double.

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Speaker 1: Understand, double jerking, Yeah, ski polling, I understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new one, all right. I love that.

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Speaker 1: What poland I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a colm.

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Speaker 2: I didn't invent that, don't I've never That is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Especially for an outdoorsy girl like you. It's wonderful. Okay,

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I'm gonna put sixty nine seconds on the clock. I'm

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gonna describe these things to you. They are porn related terms.

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You tell me if you can identify the term.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: Go end of the scene on the this finishing here

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o facial Okay. Number two, a bunch of guys, one

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girl just the top.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Number three dressing up kind of like

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an animal cury. Okay, oh, not not with this, with

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the other part this, but with the other lower the

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bottom of your body. There you go. Number six. This

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sounds weird. Black people and white people together.

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Speaker 2: Oh, interracial.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Number seven. Take a drink of this water. Okay,

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I apologize, we'll discuss difords. Well, the game's going. Number seven,

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uh down down this way down. There you go. Number

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eight up and in to the left. I've heard brass.

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Speaker 2: Ah g spot.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Number nine, drink too much water. Now

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I'm going to shoot this type of scene. Squirt yeah,

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and number ten all the way back deep throat ten

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for ten with three seconds left.

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Speaker 2: A and I've made an objection to questionable and problematic

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porn term.

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Speaker 1: I would like to talk about that. So for the

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tiebreaker though, according to ia FD dot com, which is

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absolutely not accurate enough for your priest, how many male

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performers have you worked with? Mainstream male performers? Now, look,

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that number is going to be totally different. You've shot

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private scenes that are not on this number. I'm just

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referring to the number itself.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea, because there's like ten porn

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dicks hold up the whole industry. Oh god, let's stay twelve.

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Speaker 1: Not bad nineteen nineteen nineteen. Yeah, well he look at that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, out my European one.

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mainstream sites, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, for sure, yes, yes, yes, wow.

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Well that was a phenomenal job you did. Now let's

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get into problematic stuff. The term that I used there before, uh, interracial?

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Why is that offensive to you?

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Speaker 2: Or not? Or no?

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Speaker 1: Or what is your objection to it? I should say

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so my objection.

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Speaker 2: My objection is that you know it? How do I say?

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It creates a category of otherness when the experience of

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having sex with somebody of a different race is just sex,

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And I feel like inter racial business in any way

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describe the sex act taking place. It doesn't describe the

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actual activities. All it describes is if you want to

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fetishize somebody of another race, this is what you're going

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to watch. And I mean, I'm not necessarily the one

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to break down the problematic history of you know, porn

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fetishizing black specifically. It tends. I mean, don't get me wrong,

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Asians have it pretty hard in the pin industry as well,

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But when people are talking about interracial, they're usually not

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talking about Asians and Hispanics having sex with each other. Sure,

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you know, as a matter of fact, I don't even

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I doubt that that scene would even be tagged at

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inter racial. What they are talking about specifically is black

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with white. They're talking, they're generally speaking about that, and

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that is there's a whole problematic history of using black

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people as breeding stock, which is that's the fetish that

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that's playing into. And I mean, it's actually why whenever

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I work, if you look at my body of words,

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I work with people, all genders, all races, all body types.

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Like That's my favorite thing about porn is that it's

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normalizing sexual expression of all kinds. I think that when

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you tag things as interracial or BBC all of that,

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all that serves to do is to further take us

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further away from normalization. You're othering that category when really

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it's just two people have.

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Speaker 1: Accepts for sure. Yeah, I'm I'm not. Let me just

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play a little devil's advocate here only because I don't

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disagree with you. Like everything you said was made total

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sense to me. It seems like though, and I understand

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what you're saying, but there are a lot of different

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visual categories in porn. It seems like, I guess there's yeah, yeah,

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there's nothing different about you except for your redhead. So

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what do we put that under? Like red head, you know, tattooed,

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any of that. I don't have a I don't I

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do not have a problem if anyone feels any way

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about sex. I think that's the coolest thing. It's between

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you and whoever you're with in the room, as long

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as no one's under eighteen or with animals. I'm like,

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totally fine with it. You're good.

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Speaker 2: But well, I mean, go ahead, I will say though,

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not to not to beat up the devil, but I

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feel like having those categories is just a side effect

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of people not recognizing pornography as the art form that

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it is. When we listen to music, we don't say

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I want an all dude band, I want all Like

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where's the Canadian mail rock section, or where's the Canadian

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male section. I'm the musing store, where is the you

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know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like, I know that makes total sense, and I.

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Speaker 2: Understand, you know, people being like, well, I have a

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thing for this specific person. And to that, I say, perhaps,

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in the era of you know, the subscription based pornography,

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maybe time for people to maybe start thinking of us

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as people and not as categories. Finding performers you like

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and then seeing who they work with. You know, I mean,

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maybe if people thought of us as people and not

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interchangeable parts, like oh man, I really want to watch

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a redhead getting cloud, maybe we wouldn't see here.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not an unfair point. I think that's I

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think that's a really smart point. I just I worry

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that we may lose work for certain people who fall

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within certain niches, like if it's a bigger girl, maybe

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there are specific sections for that. No, tell me why

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you're wrong, Yes, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: The reason why you are wrong about that, though, is

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actually because of the very strict categorization of the porn

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industry as it currently stands. Actually, people who don't fit

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neatly into one box lose out on work because they'll say, oh,

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I really you know, there will be a scene, and

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really the premise of the scene is just man has

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sex with women who came to fix her plumbing. But

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because someone wrote the scene and said it's got to

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be a redhead who does this, then a black woman

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who is available tested professional, well, she doesn't fit. It's

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not an interracial scene, so we're not going to book her.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

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Speaker 2: It's not a BBW scene, so we're not going to

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book her because it's not a BBW scene. We're not

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going to book your her because it's not a redhead.

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When you reduce people to fetishes, it means that they're

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only going to be booked for the scenes that fetishize them.

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In particular, as opposed to someone who's just a ambiguously

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white brunette is not going to be only cast in

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brunette scene. Somebody who is a you know what I mean, Like,

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it actually limits your reach and your range when in

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actuality we are just sexual olympians.

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Speaker 1: Taking it back to Zeus, to catholetes, decatholics. Exactly, you're versatile,

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you can do multiple exactly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, yeah, No, I actually I think it

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serves nobody. But the simplistic nature of deciding the kind

473
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of content you're going to make base upon an algorithm.

474
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Speaker 1: M okay, yeah, well but we did start off talking

475
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,119
about SEO.

476
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,759
Speaker 2: Yes, but there are other ways to gain SEO. If

477
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,519
people are going I'm just saying, if you were to

478
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,319
focus on the sex acts being performed and offered a

479
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,000
gallery of diverse models, people could find what they want.

480
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think that, so you know what I mean.

481
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:41,319
So are you against categorizing whatsoever? Or are you comfortable

482
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in something like I may not come I mean.

483
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,759
Speaker 2: To be fair, No, I'm actually I would say, I mean,

484
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,599
I know it's somewhat unavoidable, but actually I'm generally speaking

485
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,359
not pro categorization because especially you'll hear this talked about

486
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,440
a lot in foreign media, and like the documentaries that

487
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,319
explore Peorn I've heard it time and again, is that

488
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,519
there is kind of a dead zone for foreign actresses.

489
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,720
Like I count myself very lucky. I didn't get into

490
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,359
porn until my late twenties, so I was already out

491
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,359
of that dead zone when I entered the industry. But

492
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,119
there is teen and there's milk once you turn like

493
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,799
twenty one twenty two. Unless you keep that like Riley reed,

494
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:22,839
baby face, you don't get consistent work until you're twenty nine,

495
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,559
thirty thirty one, you have there is no and I'm sorry,

496
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,160
but that is the age of most that most men

497
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,640
want to want to masturbate to women. It's like most

498
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,039
men want to masturbate to twenty one to thirty year old,

499
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,240
I mean and older. But my point being, people don't

500
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,039
like there is no category that serves to book women

501
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,039
between the ages of twenty one and thirty. So there

502
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,640
is a nine year dead zone in every performer, every

503
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,839
mainstream performer's career as the useless dead zone, like and

504
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,119
nobody has thought to invent like the babe category. You know,

505
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:05,480
it's really ridiculous. So I personally don't think I think

506
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,599
that actually having strictly categorized porn actually limits the variety

507
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,680
available on the porn market.

508
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,759
Speaker 1: You just you're cutting You're you're giving these brilliant answers

509
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,240
to everything that I'm trying to get around, trying to

510
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,440
weasele my way around. How about like a number of

511
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,359
people in this No, I think it's it's the most

512
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,920
insightful take I've ever heard on this, and I've had

513
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,000
conversations on this before. Yeah, yeah, I have questions of

514
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,079
follow up on that. But how about just like number

515
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,920
of people in the scene. Can you give me that?

516
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359
Can you give me like two guys and a girl?

517
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:38,200
And then I'll just.

518
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Well that that describes the sex act.

519
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? So we can describe maybe not the people.

520
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: That's well, that's exactly it. I think that the important

521
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,440
thing would be to describe the sex act. Okay, and

522
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
you can you can describe the fetish, you know, if

523
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,400
you know, there's a lot of faux sest in the industry,

524
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640
people make jokes about all the time. I think that

525
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,599
that's another symptom of al arhythmic content decisions. But I

526
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:06,799
digress because not the conversation, but I think that if

527
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,119
you give people the option of like, you know, there

528
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,400
was a while there where I was really turned on

529
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,880
by double penetration. You know, I googled double penetration and

530
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,240
I would I was much younger I did not know

531
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,640
to pay for my porn throwing that out there, but

532
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,079
I would. I would look, and I would scroll through,

533
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:26,759
and then I'd be like, oh that that tickles my tingle,

534
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,759
and I'd click on a video. It was never I

535
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:34,880
want to see a blonde getting tag teamed by two men.

536
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,440
And the thing is is, if you want to get

537
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,920
that specific, you can do the legwork of looking. Like

538
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
when I want to shop for address, I can't just

539
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,640
type in, no matter what, and no matter how specific

540
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,680
I get with search terms, I'm gonna have to scroll

541
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,759
through and find something that appeals to me. I don't

542
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:54,160
see why porn is any different.

543
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. You don't you click on

544
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,039
the image of a porn star, you know whatever the

545
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:07,519
thumbnail is. You don't read you know, Hailey Spades dominated

546
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:10,519
by BBC but like you don't want or tiny white

547
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,640
girl dominant. Yeah I get it. I Yeah, I get it,

548
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,599
And go ahead.

549
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: And I will point out also that by giving people

550
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,599
these options to so heavily censor their search results, you're

551
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,680
actually missing out on people who might be oh, that's

552
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200
not my thing, but that looks really hot and clicking

553
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:31,160
on something outside of.

554
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,799
Speaker 1: The genre as a viewer. I know I have favorite scenes,

555
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,799
I have favorite performers, I have this and that. But

556
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,400
you're right, sometimes you'll see something that comes along and

557
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,720
you go, how the fuck did I miss this girl

558
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:44,680
here exactly?

559
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: And you missed her because everything is so algorithmically guided

560
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,519
and tagged in with keywords, like I get tagged as

561
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,160
a tattooed model constantly, and I do have tattoos, But

562
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,039
I feel like calling me a tattooed model is somewhat

563
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,319
of a misnomer because I don't necessarily think it's the

564
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,680
first thing that people notice about me. I'm not incredibly heavy,

565
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,400
heavily ta food, I have some tattoos, I'm a mil

566
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,559
but I consistently I got accused of lying about my

567
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440
age on scrip chat last week, and I had my

568
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,960
age listed as like four years younger than I am,

569
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,759
and they were accusing me of aging myself up. They're like,

570
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,119
you're not thirty, and I'm like, you're.

571
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you look looker than that. Well phenomenal. You

572
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,039
look phenomenal for whatever you are you But that's.

573
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: My point, though, is it's all of this deeply discounts.

574
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:38,240
It takes away the individuality, and it does take away

575
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:40,319
some of Like, I know it sounds kind of silly,

576
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,920
but the reason why porn is legal is because it

577
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,799
was recognized as a form of art by the court,

578
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,079
like pornography is art.

579
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound crazy at all. I have an autograph

580
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,240
picture hanging, you know, up in my office of Larry Flint,

581
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,319
only because you know Larry. Why my thing about Larry

582
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,160
Flint is just always fault for free speech and I

583
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,640
love I've been on Twitter lately and I'll keep my

584
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:13,440
views to myself, but there's been some political opinions that

585
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960
I agree with some people on In the last few days.

586
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,839
It's been very anti porn, and I start looking at

587
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,359
like a lot of people who will say other amendments matter,

588
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,559
but then we'll chastise porn and give shit to porn

589
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:27,920
and whatever else. Hey, I'm sorry if the first or

590
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,279
or what doesn't matter, none of them do well.

591
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,039
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, I mean, we're at a

592
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,839
weird time not to get because you live in fantasy

593
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,359
world where all of the girls want to have sex

594
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,599
with their pizza delivery man. But there is very much

595
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,640
so a very troubling anti porn, anti sexuality, anti sex

596
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,119
education push going on right now, and I mean, I

597
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:53,160
don't know at the end of the day. It's these

598
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680
things come in waves. I think that very much. So

599
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,880
we're looking at a kind of rough couple of years,

600
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:00,920
and I think that people will that they want to

601
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,240
masturbate and that there's no such thing as an addiction

602
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:09,440
to a necessary biological impulse. Like if we didn't have

603
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,680
the urge to touch our genitals, we wouldn't exist. And

604
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,640
that is literal. I literally mean if we did not

605
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:22,799
want to masturbate, humans wouldn't exist. Yeah.

606
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: No, yeah, So this.

607
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,359
Speaker 2: Whole idea of like no fap white supremacy, it can't

608
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
I'm a white supremacist, so I can't touch my dick

609
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,519
kind of thing. I mean, like it flies in the

610
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,640
face of science, like take completely remove morality from it.

611
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,039
If you want more humans to exist, you have to

612
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,480
be comfortable touching your face.

613
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,799
Speaker 1: It's crazy how it's snowballs too, because early on, like

614
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:53,000
the no fapping thing, whatever it was, I think it

615
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,880
was meant as like dudes who were like like had

616
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,720
a problem.

617
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:01,519
Speaker 2: Oh if this was an this was an educational podcast,

618
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:06,519
trust me, I highly encourage everybody to google and really

619
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,239
go down the deep dive of where the novap originates.

620
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,840
It originates, That's why I mentioned white supremacy. It actually

621
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:22,199
originates in white supremacist evangelical Christian roots. So like it

622
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,400
very much. So it disguises itself as like more of

623
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,400
like one of the trendy kind of like alpha male,

624
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:34,480
I'm a big dude kind of it has the same

625
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:39,039
roots as the you know current that's basically the same

626
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,639
people who bring you morality in the media, now known

627
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,880
as Exodus Cry or no, no, they sorry, it's not

628
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,159
Exodus Cry. Exodus Cry is just affiliate with them. They

629
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,079
actually rebranded to and Cozy, which is the National Center

630
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,159
on Sexual Exploitation, So now they sound really official, but

631
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,960
they're still just morality in the media. They're a Christian

632
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,800
group that doesn't want foreign to exist. Actually, and Cozy

633
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,280
is the group that has been pushing all of the

634
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,199
age verification laws and all of the you know, anti

635
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,360
porn bills, which anybody in porn will tell you, well,

636
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,800
yes we want age verification. We want it at the

637
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,800
device level.

638
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Yep.

639
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: If you want to give your kids an iPad.

640
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: Can we can we talk about that for a second,

641
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,280
because I think so many people are confused by that.

642
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,760
They're saying, Okay, porn Hub is blocked in Texas right now,

643
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,800
because they obviously were just sem using the media narrative

644
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,000
behind it. They really just wanted a whole bunch of

645
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:35,760
kids on it. So instead they're going to just shut

646
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,519
it off entirely, rather than all the kids that would

647
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,760
flood in and click all the ads and sign up

648
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920
with their fucking American Express cards.

649
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,519
Speaker 2: Like I think there's kids don't have credit cards.

650
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,159
Speaker 1: There's no logic to it. Yes, I go ahead, yeah, please, kids.

651
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,639
Speaker 2: Don't have credit cards. So here's the thing. No one

652
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,199
wants children on their porn site. Okay, I've had people,

653
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,679
I've had I've had people who admit to being under

654
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,880
a team who message me on my Twitter. They are

655
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,440
immediately and without question blocked. I don't even respond to

656
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,199
them to tell them why they are blocked. They just

657
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,039
suddenly can't see my boots. No one wants them there,

658
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,039
and we all want page verifications. The problem with the

659
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,519
laws that they are putting forth for age verification is

660
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,559
that they actually put every person who takes part in

661
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,199
the current version of the age verification that the Christian

662
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,880
right wants and the Republican right wants is something that's

663
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,519
going to put users at risk. You know how you

664
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,760
get those emails that say, like your information was found

665
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,360
in a breach.

666
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

667
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: Pornhub is the single most I don't know if it's

668
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,320
the most popular website on the Internet, but it's it's.

669
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: Up there, Yeah, it's up there.

670
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: It's it has to be in the top five on

671
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,239
the Internet. Probably hackers large and small would be making

672
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880
that their target. And already I'm sure already do to

673
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,760
get user information if you had to uplate upload a

674
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,840
government ID and a credit card any time you want

675
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,760
to use it. Because the way that these laws are written,

676
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,920
mind you, is not one time verification. It is constant reverification,

677
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,559
which some of these sites actually logging you out after

678
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:14,639
I think it's like twenty minutes to reverify. So mid fab,

679
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480
you got to pull out your ID and do biometric scanning.

680
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

681
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:20,599
Speaker 2: And the whole point is not to stop kids from

682
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,519
accessing it. It's to make it so inconvenient that adults

683
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,519
don't want to access it, which then does not stop

684
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:32,159
porn from existing. It starts driving track, it driving traffic

685
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,840
to the underground websites that are stealing pornography, not age

686
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,119
verifying performers, which is the bigger danger. Okay, if you

687
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,719
don't want people being traffic for the purpose of sexual

688
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,639
exploitation on camera, you want to make sure that they

689
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,559
are having their IDs verified, that everybody who is uploading

690
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,159
porn is doing so with a government name and idea attached.

691
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:58,320
If you're stealing porn from you know, creampiegirls, dot net,

692
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,320
slash fi o, you're not getting an age verified video.

693
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,519
You're not even getting a consent verified video. Coornhub takes

694
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,519
great length to verify both names. I have to do

695
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,679
biometric scans, upload my ID, I have to sign I

696
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,400
have what's called a twenty two to fifty seven, which

697
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,000
is a verification of identity. I also have to do

698
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,760
an individualized model consent checklist, and I have to upload

699
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,679
proof of those with IDs with a photo of my

700
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,039
costar holding their IDs next to their faith. For every

701
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,800
single video, there is no such thing as oh, well,

702
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
I filmed with this person so I can upload it here. No,

703
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,760
every video, every time has those formed and ideas attached.

704
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,440
What they are doing is making it more dangerous for adults,

705
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:52,599
consenting happy adults to actually access ethical legal porn. They're

706
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,159
making it just like they did with foss A Sesta.

707
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,719
They're making it harder to track abuse, so we're against that.

708
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,079
Speaker 1: Plus none of the kids are going to go to

709
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,599
the website anymore, so there's always that I'm just kidding,

710
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,599
I'm fucking with you. I understand. That was why it

711
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,920
was a brilliant breakdown. I don't think people understand what

712
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:14,320
it is because it depending upon your political aisle. It

713
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,880
feels like, you know, no one should have porn whatsoever, and.

714
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: Then the part is an issue.

715
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is. It really is.

716
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no, no, no place,

717
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,199
but really what it is, it's the latest It is

718
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,199
the latest iteration of if we say it's to protect children,

719
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,920
people will go along with it when they don't recognize

720
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,800
the implications for your online privacy and security. You know,

721
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,119
sexual proclivity has always historically been used to blackmail people.

722
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Giving a treasure trove of information about individualized users on

723
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,599
a porn website. Is it's terrible like those in combination

724
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,000
as a recipe for disaster. And anybody who has seen

725
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,280
the Ashley Madison documentary.

726
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Well I just watched it too, nights, we'll attest to that.

727
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're trying, and that's what we're trying

728
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,239
to prevent. That's when we blot when we are saying

729
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,119
we're anti age verification, it is not that we want

730
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,039
kids on the website. It's that we want the people

731
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,320
who consume pornography to be safe while they're doing it,

732
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,159
you know, and we want performers to be compensated. So

733
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:25,719
basically the answer is age verification, yes, but at the

734
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,119
device level, parental controls on your children's devices, that is

735
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,639
what we all want, and instead we are getting this

736
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,360
because parental controls on devices does not make sex worker

737
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,639
lives harder. It does not make it harder to access

738
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:43,440
for and that's the actual goal.

739
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:49,599
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, My guests today, Jupiter gestion, She just

740
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,679
did the greatest breakdown I've ever heard and the most

741
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480
easy to understand. Like that may have to be a

742
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,760
breakout clip that I make for this episode because so

743
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,159
many people just don't understand it, and it's so funny

744
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,880
because the same people. Again, I'm just I'm picking on

745
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,320
Texas on this one, no reason to, just just because

746
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,280
I know they're the one that blocked it off. I'm

747
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880
sure Utah maybe did something similar, but.

748
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,159
Speaker 2: The list is, it's actually a fairly intimidating list right now.

749
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,039
Speaker 1: I'm positive every one of those states yells and screams

750
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:23,320
about individual freedoms and personal responsibilities and everything else, and

751
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,760
then when it comes to point, it's like, nah, and

752
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:29,719
now we can't trust you to be responsible enough to

753
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,039
put a block on your kid's phone. We'll just cut

754
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:33,039
the whole thing off.

755
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:40,119
Speaker 2: I just love the sheer volume of boomers who discovered

756
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:41,159
in one day, what a v.

757
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:46,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, we are going to

758
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:56,239
take a break and we will be right back, and

759
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,239
then we're back my guess stupid or jets, and make

760
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,559
sure you follow her on all social media links in

761
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,119
the episode description, but also sign up for our only

762
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:06,320
fans at Jupiter Jets and and we just learned before

763
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,920
the last break Jupiter Jets and across all social media.

764
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: So I don't have to say go to the episode description,

765
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,280
go type it in Twitter, go type it in Instagram.

766
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:20,239
Just sign up Jupiter. You have been phenomenal today at

767
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,519
letting me know why I was wrong. And that may

768
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,079
sound like I'm being shitty or rude about it. I'm

769
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,360
actually not. I love love, love different perspectives, and I

770
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,119
love people explaining to me why something is. I feel

771
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:38,880
like I've learned a lot more I would. I believe

772
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280
you mentioned before you did have a period where you

773
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,880
enjoyed DP correct. Yes, Okay, well, then I have quite

774
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:56,480
the game for you. Let's play Ladies. Choice. At least

775
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,519
Choice is a game where you, the world famous porn star,

776
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:02,119
get to build your own celebri the fantasy gang bang. Okay,

777
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,519
here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick the individuals.

778
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,880
So I'm gonna spin these wheels which you can't see,

779
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,599
but the people at home can, okay, and they're going

780
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:14,960
to form your group. There's an act bay, Okay, there's

781
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,800
an actor wheel, and then there's just a guy. Okay.

782
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:22,119
Your job building this gang bang is to tell me

783
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,840
who goes where. I understand in an actual one, we're

784
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,400
all constantly in rotation, like planets orbiting a sun.

785
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

786
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna try and use some logical on why you

787
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,760
would pick these people for what? Okay.

788
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: Side note, I have once had the concept. I've had

789
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,239
the concept of Jupiter and her eighty eight moons, because

790
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,280
there are eighty eight moons of Jupiter and there. It's

791
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,159
a debatable number, but I I have made the orbit

792
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,000
the moons in orbit. It's too many, dudes. I can't

793
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,760
find eighty eight porn dudes, it's not going to happen.

794
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,039
How would you maybe if I did like the like

795
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,119
the twelve major moons, I did the twelve major moon.

796
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: Would it be like a gang bang or BOUKACKI or like,

797
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,639
how would you do that? How do you think you

798
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:12,480
would form that?

799
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: It's too many movies, it's too many moving cards. So

800
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:16,079
let's get to our gang bang.

801
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:28,079
Speaker 4: Wonderful we spin the wheels here, let's play Lady's Choice.

802
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,119
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Jason.

803
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: Momoa, Ted Bundy.

804
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Jupiter Jesson, your contestants for today's Ladies Choice. Number one

805
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Joe Burrow, five year, two hundred and seventy five million

806
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,840
dollar contract, just signed quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. Looker,

807
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,920
I think he's handsome. That's just me good looking country boy.

808
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:03,679
Maybe that's a bad picture. Number two Jason Momoa. You'll

809
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,519
know him as Aquaman or from Game of Thrones. It's

810
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,199
one of the sexiest men in Hollywood. Now, unfortunately, you

811
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,440
did draw a bad stroll on your wild cart Ted Bundy.

812
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,639
Now the pros are he did go to law school.

813
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,559
That's cool, right, Unfortunately he did kill thirty people. Are

814
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,519
you a true crime fan at all?

815
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't say a fan, but I know

816
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:26,079
plenty about.

817
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,119
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm not a fan of it in life.

818
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:30,119
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do it for Ted Bundy.

819
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think.

820
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,159
Speaker 2: I was thinking of Ed Dean for a second. Oh yeah,

821
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,599
the boys. Yeah.

822
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:44,159
Speaker 1: So here's here's where the logic comes in. Right, if

823
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,559
you have a guy in your third spot here who's

824
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,159
a strangler, do you really want them behind you?

825
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: Actually? Yes, because I want Jason Momoa in front of me.

826
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,920
So I already had this parked up before the wheeling

827
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,079
was stopped fitting Okay, already knew how this was going

828
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:01,360
to go.

829
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,679
Speaker 1: So are we going Jason Momoa mouth?

830
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Momoa in the face. Just I would stuck

831
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,440
the soul out of that man's dick. Sorry, I don't

832
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:13,440
like to speak super explicitly about like celebrities, so my

833
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,960
apologies to mister Momoa. I have nothing but respect. You

834
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,679
know what I loved his show about, like him, like

835
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,519
going around making dirt bikes like that was so freaking cute,

836
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,880
wholesome content. That would be a very wholesome blow job anyway.

837
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:31,280
But I didn't do this to you. This was somebody else.

838
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,840
I don't You didn't ask to be objectified. And I'm sorry, sir,

839
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,679
but yes, I would suck the soul out of your dick.

840
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,760
And Captain mcsportsy over there, I don't know his name,

841
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:44,599
but he looks like he'd be a good bass you know,

842
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,239
so like i'd probably take him in the front because

843
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,199
I've got two big beefy dudes to the front. If

844
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,920
weird he mcwirdson tries to do anything from the back,

845
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,559
i'd imagine either one of them punch him out. Okay,

846
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:57,960
oh yeah, so he could get the butthole because he

847
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,719
also has really small dig at her like small dick energy.

848
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,000
He gets the butt and I got my other two dudes.

849
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,440
I've got my ground floor and my front end.

850
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: Covered infallible logic there, but also not uncommon, having played

851
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,679
this game a few times now, most girls are assuming

852
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,519
third guy, uh, small dick, and you know what, it's

853
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,239
not a bad assumption. So if you're someone who's go.

854
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: Ahead, well and he specifically is if you have to

855
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,840
actually go out and like rape, strangle and murder. Yeah,

856
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,519
you're compensating. Sure, Like, yeah, you're compensating. It's not like

857
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,840
like you. There's no way, no way that man was

858
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,320
packing a coke can. No, I'll eat, I'll eat my hat.

859
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:46,159
There's no way.

860
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is there a way you can

861
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:55,280
translate this sounds dumb? Let me explain fully? Is there

862
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,039
way you can translate your intelligence into even more income

863
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,440
than you're making? Now? I only say this because you

864
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,400
have such a good perspective on the industry. Would you

865
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:08,760
have interest in things like producing, directing, or even managing?

866
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, yes, yeah, I actually I'm still in the

867
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:17,639
learning phase because some things like videography, you know, and

868
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,840
like lighting and photography were never like personally like hyper

869
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,960
focuses of mine, if you will. But I actually like

870
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,760
I've already taken my hand. I guess I could technically say,

871
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,800
I mean, technically speaking, my award was for like production

872
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,639
and starring because East Bay Brats is just a five

873
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:41,599
person operation. We do everything ourselves, and all of the

874
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:45,440
scenes I make on my website, like for a while there,

875
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
I used to outsource my only fans. Now if you

876
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,360
sign up for my Only Fans. My response time is slow,

877
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,559
but it's me who's responding good one hundred percent of

878
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:57,360
the time. Nobody else touches my only Fans. And when

879
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,719
I had a management company, their complaint was that, you know,

880
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,880
all your stuff is just too high production value, Like

881
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,320
it's not really only a band's quality, it's it's studio quality.

882
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,199
And it's because I do have an eye for that

883
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,360
kind of thing. And that's that's absolutely something that I,

884
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,960
you know, would like to explore as my career goes on.

885
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,760
But right now, I'm just still in the looking and

886
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,440
listening and learning from people who are better at it

887
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,519
than I am. Like, but I always make note of

888
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:26,199
how people set their things up, and you know, I've

889
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,280
been doing some soft research on cameras and all of that.

890
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I do a side no,

891
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,199
You're good, year, I apologize. I do a sideshow where

892
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,039
I also interview a side show actually sounds worse than

893
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:43,079
a separate podcast. That's great now, Yeah, yeah, where I

894
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:46,800
interview newer performers who seem like they have good work ethic,

895
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,920
Like I'll check their history. I'll make sure you know

896
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,000
that they're posting, but not a lot of followers. And

897
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:55,960
I try and like do a little introduction to the industry,

898
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,880
but I'm starting to pick up on all the major stuff.

899
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,760
And I go to your Twitter thing and there's no

900
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,400
link tree or all my links. It's like, that is

901
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,440
we got to get, you know, all of that set up.

902
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,159
I think you would be so great at not that

903
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,480
you're not a phenomenal performer, you are, but I the knowledge.

904
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,800
I think you could really help a lot of people. I

905
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,320
don't know how you'd make money out of it, though,

906
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,679
just managing all yeah.

907
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: And see, that's see, And that's the thing is I

908
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,800
and this is not to say that it is an

909
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,639
inherently unethical job to be the manager of someone else,

910
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,480
Like it's a necessary job. Honestly, if I could find

911
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800
a company that actually works to my standard, I would

912
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:39,920
love to be able to outsource some of the work

913
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,480
of my performing. However, I personally, I mean, I always

914
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:48,519
tell new performers, like if you have any questions, any performers,

915
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:52,039
any sex workers in general, like I'm and I'm sure

916
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,800
like there are there are plenty of people who can

917
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,039
attest like I'm an open book. I don't believe in

918
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,039
gatekeeping knowledge. I don't believe that just because I had

919
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:05,079
to get stiffed on this paycheck means that you need

920
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:07,480
to get stiffed on the paycheck too to learn the lesson.

921
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,559
And I also don't feel comfortable, not that I think

922
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,639
it's wrong, because I do believe that people should be

923
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:15,800
compensated for their time and their labor and all that,

924
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,679
but I feel more like it's a karmic gift if

925
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,639
you will, to go back and forth with information with

926
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,159
other sex workers. So I've never considered monetizing that facet

927
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,559
of my job, you know, But that's just because I'm

928
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,719
deeply uncomfortable, inherently with the concept of, like, let me

929
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920
help you get good at this job and give me

930
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,239
money to do it, because what if I'm not capable

931
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,719
of me you know, like you know, like I just

932
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,079
what if what I'm offering you is something that with

933
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,280
you know, me just giving you a little bit of

934
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,679
information you're perfectly capable of doing on your own, it

935
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,079
just doesn't feel like a karmically good thing. So I

936
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,960
have never considered that. But directing producer saying things like.

937
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: That mentoring too, I mean, maybe you don't have to

938
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,400
charge anything for that, But it seems like you're willing

939
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,719
to talk to younger. Did you have anyone mentor you

940
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,440
when you came in or it was it since age

941
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:12,440
or no, sin.

942
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: I tell people I've called her. I called her then

943
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,320
I call her my poorn mommy and she thought it

944
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:26,760
was sweet. But yeah, we've actually never done a stepmommy video,

945
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,119
but we uh, you know, she gave me a ton

946
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:35,159
of really valuable information. Uh, there is a courtesan who

947
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:39,920
works up north Stable, Renee. She gave me just so

948
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,280
much valuable information when I first got into the industry,

949
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:46,719
you know, like the the very first day I worked

950
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,360
in a strip club was because I had a friend

951
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,800
of mine from the like gay like the LGBT youth

952
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,960
group who happened to work at a strip club and

953
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,119
her boyfriend worked security at a strip club. And she

954
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,440
was like hearing me, like kind of freaking out because

955
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000
it was like, I'm moving out on my own next

956
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,239
month and Taco Bell, which is where I was working,

957
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,559
is not going to cut it. And she was like, well,

958
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,199
this is an option. And she showed me dance moves

959
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,159
and she helped me like learn how to be a

960
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,360
dancer and that was how I managed to make enough

961
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,159
money to go to school and move to New York

962
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,079
and all of the things that put me on the

963
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,800
path to where I am right now, you know which,

964
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,159
I'm really happy with where my life has led. All

965
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,880
of it kind of boils down to a woman at

966
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,159
some point kind of being like, hey, you're absolutely capable

967
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:44,440
of doing this is just how you do it X

968
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,840
y Z, And not a single one of them ever

969
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,960
asked me for a diet. So I just feel like

970
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,159
that is kind of part of the sixth the Sisterhood

971
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:52,000
of sex work.

972
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,119
Speaker 1: If you will, you know, yeah, yeah, I've heard horror

973
00:53:56,159 --> 00:54:01,119
stories sometimes in strip clubs, though on both I've heard

974
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,480
everyone loves each other and they help each other out,

975
00:54:03,519 --> 00:54:06,079
and I've heard everyone is at each other's throats all

976
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:07,960
the time. I guess that's really just going to depend

977
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,480
on person and situation and area and customers.

978
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: You know, It's funny, because I've experienced I think it

979
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:21,719
all boiled down to management, because I've worked I've only

980
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,480
worked at two brothels, and one of them and mind you,

981
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:26,920
the one that I worked at where I got that

982
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,159
wonderful help was from a girl at that brothel, So

983
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:32,679
it wasn't a universal rule, but a first brothel I

984
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,760
worked at, there was a ton of infighting and a

985
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,239
very competitive spirit, you know. At the one I currently

986
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,920
work at, there's none of that. We are all incredibly collaborative.

987
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:48,960
We share our menu pricing, we share our negotiation kicks.

988
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,559
I mean, like honestly, Like, I was just chatting this

989
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:54,440
morning with another late day I work with, and we

990
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,880
were kind of going back and forth about which books

991
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,679
we've read and which have help like, you know, in

992
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,000
regards to this business, and how they've helped us in

993
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:05,039
which ones we kind of fell you know what I mean. Like,

994
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:09,400
it is a very collaborative spirit, and it entirely boils

995
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,000
down to choices made by management. You know, we're not

996
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,320
ranked by how much money we make all of the rooms.

997
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,199
There's no like I've been here longer so I get

998
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,800
this perk. It's all whether you've been here six years

999
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,639
or six hours. We have the same rules that we

1000
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:29,840
all abide by. We have the same standards that we

1001
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,800
all abide by, and I feel like that, you know,

1002
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,920
in the same way with strip clubs, a lot of

1003
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,920
it boils down to does the manager believe that an

1004
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,639
air of competition is going to make them more money

1005
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,679
or do they believe that an air of collaboration is

1006
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:50,400
going to make them more money? And having seen both sides,

1007
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,679
I'm firmly on the side of I believe that collaboration

1008
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,960
makes the most money.

1009
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: I again more applying it towards a strip club thing.

1010
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,639
But I don't understand why they would be I understand,

1011
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,400
I guess I do understand, but you're right. To me,

1012
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:06,920
collaboration seems so much better. Like if you have a

1013
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,840
guy who's not interested in you, maybe you bring a

1014
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,800
friend over and go, would you do a two person

1015
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,119
dance or session whatever you want to call it, you know,

1016
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,559
and you're both getting paid on that one. And you

1017
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:19,719
got this girl work because you brought her over. And

1018
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,320
I don't understand why we can't all just have a

1019
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,079
nice give and take in the world.

1020
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Well, some of it sometime, well you'll see a lot

1021
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,880
of discourse on the you know, especially on social media

1022
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,679
where like you know, sometimes in sex work Twitter, which

1023
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
most humans are not on, so you probably have not

1024
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:39,480
seen this on Twitter, but there'll be discussions of, oh,

1025
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:42,000
this girl is charging less and that's bringing down the

1026
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:44,400
standard for this and blah blah, blah blah blah, and

1027
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,079
a lot of that kind of comes down to this

1028
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,639
idea that we're all kind of fighting for a piece

1029
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:50,920
of the pie. Everybody's heard that phrase, you know, we're

1030
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,400
all we all want a piece of the pie. But

1031
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,559
the fact of the matter is, especially when it comes

1032
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,159
to the luxury industry, which the adult industry, all of

1033
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,719
the adult industry, is the luxury market. Nobody needs it

1034
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,440
to survive. No matter what, we are coming out of

1035
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,400
an entertainment budget, which makes us a luxury service. And

1036
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,639
at the end of the day, that means that it

1037
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,039
is not a pie. This is a bakery. We are

1038
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:22,280
at whatever demand there is, we can make that happen.

1039
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,599
We can sell, we can make the product happen, you

1040
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:26,679
know what I mean. Like, it's not a finite market.

1041
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:29,719
It's not like, Okay, there's one hundred men who pay

1042
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,440
for their porn and we've got to fight from Like, no,

1043
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:36,760
it's it is a bakery. We are we are capable

1044
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,000
of as much growth as we are allow ourselves, if

1045
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,840
that makes any sense.

1046
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, it's it's meritocracy. It's you will earn

1047
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,599
based on how much you work, how much you present

1048
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:50,119
to the industry how much you know.

1049
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:54,719
Speaker 2: Now, yes and no, Yes and no. Well, because I mean, like,

1050
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,440
we don't exist in a vacuum. You know, racism, ableism,

1051
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,519
you know, uh, fat phobia, these things all do still

1052
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:09,320
affect your income. Like I, as a skinny, conventionally attractive

1053
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,840
white woman, am going to have to put in half

1054
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,440
of the effort to make the same amount of money

1055
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:17,039
as somebody with a similar like as a woman with

1056
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,480
a similar level of attractiveness and a similar a similar

1057
00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:23,920
level of you know, followers, even I will have I

1058
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:26,719
if I had more melanin, I would absolutely have to

1059
00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:28,639
put in twice the amount of work to get the

1060
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:32,840
same amount of recognition, recognition because there is an inherent

1061
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,400
bias against us, and I'm not fighting against that, so

1062
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:40,559
I can't necessarily I'm not going to perpetuate a kind

1063
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:47,480
of bootstrapism about porn. Now, however, it is absolutely egalitarian

1064
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:51,480
in that anybody can make a living doing this. You

1065
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:55,119
don't even have to be hot, like you know, the

1066
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,559
middle aged, overweight men with a camera who make their

1067
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,000
living eyes many of it doing POV videos.

1068
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Feels like she's talking to me, folks. Sounds like I'm

1069
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,000
just kidding.

1070
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,519
Speaker 2: They get my heart. Okay they do. I love trying

1071
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:12,440
the harlots. I love all of the harlots, okay, whether

1072
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,519
no matter what you look like. But but to say

1073
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,360
that it's completely a meritocracy does ignore, you know, intersections

1074
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,760
of like you know, perceived class, perceived worthiness in society.

1075
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,719
Like that does absolutely translate to the point industry. But

1076
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,199
anybody can get a piece of pie from that bakery.

1077
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,960
Anybody can man the ovens if you will. It's just

1078
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,639
some people might have to lift a heavier gowal.

1079
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: What is on the horizon for you? Do we have

1080
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,519
any like major scenes planned? Did you have any firsts

1081
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:48,679
coming up? Do you anything like that?

1082
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: I have a couple of really exciting things, some of

1083
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,480
which I'm not allowed to talk about yet. One and

1084
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:56,280
one big one that I'm really excited about that I'm

1085
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,280
not allowed to talk about yet.

1086
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask me, let me pulls you. What

1087
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:03,719
date would you be able to talk about that? Yeah, no, idea,

1088
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,360
that's a fair enough when company.

1089
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,239
Speaker 2: When companies shoot us, they don't give us like a day.

1090
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,199
The only the only projected date I have and I

1091
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,440
am allowed to talk about it is I have a

1092
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:18,880
Friday the thirteenth theme VR scene, but it's not coming

1093
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:25,519
out until twenty twenty five. Get what are they They're

1094
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,880
so far ahead, it's a it's real, it's like real

1095
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,840
reality VR. They're like one of the bigger companies in

1096
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,239
Europe for VR.

1097
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:36,599
Speaker 1: I guess it's more the inner workings. But I wonder

1098
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,480
if porn companies at all adjusted because of COVID, Like

1099
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:45,559
if they're stockpiling stuff more. I don't know who knows,

1100
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,360
like if they're stocked on footage or scenes to hold

1101
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:49,159
or you know.

1102
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: Well, in that specific case, I think it was partly

1103
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:56,320
so they flew me out for that scene. So like

1104
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:59,760
I I'm not look, I don't live in Prague. So

1105
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,840
but I think that because I shot multiple scenes for them,

1106
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,239
and that was the only one that I got a

1107
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,480
date for, So I think that most likely they probably

1108
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:10,320
are going to be releasing, you know, one of the

1109
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,800
scenes I shot for them, you know, in a couple

1110
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,039
of months, one in like six months, and then those

1111
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:17,519
are for like next year because I'm an American performer

1112
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,639
and they know they're not going to have me back

1113
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,760
for a little while, so they kind of gotcha got

1114
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,000
it that way, But I don't have we don't really

1115
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,199
get the dates for our stuff.

1116
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: I is VR porn hard to shoot? What is the

1117
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:33,880
experience of that?

1118
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:41,719
Speaker 2: It's different and it is definitely harder than standard porn,

1119
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:46,239
just because the positions, Like people always talk about positions

1120
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:50,840
in standards like GameStream form being uncomfortable, and I don't

1121
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,159
necessarily find that to be the case. Like there will

1122
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:56,559
be different than the sex that I have off camera,

1123
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,320
but they still feel good. It's still fun, you know.

1124
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,039
I just have more mindful of how I'm angoying myself,

1125
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,159
but with me are because there are some very specific

1126
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:11,480
angles you have to be at, and very specific like dimensions,

1127
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:14,800
because it starts looking really weird and like curved if

1128
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:20,400
you're at the wrong dimension. It's a little harder. I mean,

1129
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,840
I like it. It's I tell people all the time,

1130
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,039
it's like having sex with the robot from Short Circuit.

1131
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,880
You know, John five is really alive because there's like

1132
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,079
the camera is in between you and your costar, so

1133
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:37,000
like when you're looking into their eyes, you're looking at

1134
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,559
a sticker in between these two camera lens lenses, because

1135
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,760
that gives the effect of looking into the eyes. It's

1136
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,800
a little weird and uncanny valley, but it's I enjoy it.

1137
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,840
I mean, I like anything that kind of how do

1138
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,159
I say, takes me into something I haven't tried before,

1139
01:02:57,239 --> 01:02:59,239
even if I might have like a sorer muscle or

1140
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:04,159
two the next day. It's like you, I never expected

1141
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:06,639
that day when I woke up, that I would be

1142
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:10,880
in a pamper van, like the upper deck of a camper,

1143
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:15,400
you know, with like twenty different pieces of equipment and

1144
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:18,719
three dudes hanging out in the little hallway trying to

1145
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,039
get the shot. Like that's even if it's uncomfortable, it's

1146
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:26,360
objectively hilarious. Like for that alone, it gets my luck.

1147
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My guest today stupidter jetson follow across

1148
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:33,880
all social media. H sign up for our only fans

1149
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,159
at Jupiter Jetson. But really, go do it, Go do it.

1150
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:39,039
Don't just sit there and think about it. You heard

1151
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:43,920
her talk today, very fun very funny. Commitment to high

1152
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:46,039
quality content is what I hear.

1153
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,559
Speaker 2: And tell me too much.

1154
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe maybe I know. Sometimes I pine over

1155
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,440
editing for fucking hours and hours just getting clips right.

1156
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,159
But that's the mark of afs. Mean, Chrift's a woman,

1157
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,119
not a craftsman. My stuff is shit. Her stuff is

1158
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:07,719
really phenomenal though folks check out Jupiter Jets and everywhere

1159
01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:10,639
on social media and especially your only fans at Jupiter Jets,

1160
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:12,920
and thank you very much for coming on with me.

1161
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:15,639
It was insightful. I don't know that we talked about

1162
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:19,000
porn that much, like actual Like it wasn't one of

1163
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,280
those interviews I assume you may have had at one

1164
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,239
point where it's like, so do you like anal or

1165
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,920
what it's like? That Stuff's fine, and I understand why

1166
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,239
people tune in, but I find the people themselves more

1167
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,400
interesting personally.

1168
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what it says about me, but most

1169
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,920
of my interviews tend to be noised like that. I

1170
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:42,000
don't normally get to the you know, I feel like

1171
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,800
maybe I talk a little too much to get to

1172
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,920
the so, so, where do you prefer to take a load?

1173
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Like I never we never really get to that, Like

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we're a little too busy, like talking about the potential

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of life on other planets to you know, ever get

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to you know, load bearing holes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming over tonight, Jeeper