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<v Speaker 1>It's time for our True Crime Tuesday. The story is true,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds true? No, it sounds made up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Garry and Shannon present True Crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there was a woman, Monica Semonilly, who you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We often talk about the motive for murder. Sometimes it's money,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's love, and for Monica it seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was both.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite the story just last Friday, convicted of sending her

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<v Speaker 3>lover to kill her husband, Fabio semon Tilly and the

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<v Speaker 3>woman who helped all of that come to fruition at

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<v Speaker 3>least the guilty verdict was La County Deputy Da Beth Silverman,

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<v Speaker 3>who joins us live for True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Beth, thanks for taking time for us. We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>So Beth, this case really had everything. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>lover was a former porn star, a racquetball co like

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<v Speaker 2>it's nineteen eighty eight. You've got the slain man, the

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<v Speaker 2>man stabbed and killed out side of his Woodland Hills home,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a famous hairstylist. You've got a massive life

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<v Speaker 2>insurance policy. My god, there's something for everybody, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I think the media is so finding it

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<v Speaker 4>so scintillating, especially all the sex Ooh the sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I got into that part yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, wells tell us of what's going on, So

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<v Speaker 3>we know that what we originally thought, and I'm by we,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean investigators originally thought that this might have been

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<v Speaker 3>a knock knock burglar because the house, you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was in an area where there had been some ransacked

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<v Speaker 3>expensive homes in the valley. But there were a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of clues that said that it was something more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you talk about the early stuff that we found

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<v Speaker 3>out about the case?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think the initial investigation showed that the

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<v Speaker 4>crime scene features didn't add up. It appeared that someone

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<v Speaker 4>had come in and ransacked only one room in the

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<v Speaker 4>house and that was the master bedroom, and went out

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<v Speaker 4>onto the patio and stabbed Fabio Semanteley, who was a

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<v Speaker 4>famous hairdresser in Canada and then came to the United

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<v Speaker 4>States to take an executive role at Wela, which is

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<v Speaker 4>part of Cody and then PNG, a very large beauty company.

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<v Speaker 4>But it looked like he had been murdered first, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the bedroom was rifled through and made to look

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<v Speaker 4>like stage like a crime scene, but the rollucks was

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<v Speaker 4>left on his wrist so didn't add up from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Knock Knock burglary crew was actually a roof

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<v Speaker 4>that Lapd used in order to investigate the crime. And

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<v Speaker 4>then they uncovered this ongoing affair between the victim's wife

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<v Speaker 4>and Robert Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when did they start looking at the wife or

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<v Speaker 2>did they was that later in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was pretty early on. I would say within

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<v Speaker 4>less than a month the attention was directed there. They

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<v Speaker 4>had some information to indicate that it obviously wasn't your

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<v Speaker 4>typical burglary with someone come in during the day and

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<v Speaker 4>want to take property and get out as quick as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Because then there was blood from the victims mirrored on

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<v Speaker 4>items in the master bedroom, it was clear it was

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<v Speaker 4>a targeted killing. And then once they started investigating and

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<v Speaker 4>realized she was lying to them about her relationship with

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<v Speaker 4>the with Robert Baker, it all started, you know, calling

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<v Speaker 4>into place with various search warrants and surveillance crews and

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<v Speaker 4>things like that that they started putting into place to

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<v Speaker 4>gather evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So I assume in this evidence gathering time frame they

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<v Speaker 2>also started digging through text messages. And I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>all been to funerals, right, I don't think any of

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<v Speaker 2>us in the conversation has ever sexted somebody during a funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the stage? Is that the stage where they uncovered.

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<v Speaker 4>Those Yeah, that was the crazy part was during the cremation,

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<v Speaker 4>the memorial, the funeral, the various burial services that took

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<v Speaker 4>place in Canada after his body was flown back to

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<v Speaker 4>his home company country for interment. Later on, after she

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<v Speaker 4>was arrested and we wound up dumping her phone, we

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<v Speaker 4>found that she had been sending her lover photos of

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<v Speaker 4>herself naked, posing for photos and masturbating and doing other

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<v Speaker 4>crazy things during the time of those services that were

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<v Speaker 4>going on over the course of the week up in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Wow, you ken't like going to a church bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when she came back, Like her sister testified that

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<v Speaker 4>one day she left, she had to take her home

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<v Speaker 4>early because she just couldn't take being there anymore and

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<v Speaker 4>she was just so mentally exhausted. And then of course

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<v Speaker 4>we have these photos of her in her parents' home

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<v Speaker 4>that she was taking later on during the day and

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<v Speaker 4>then again in the evening that just happened to wind

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<v Speaker 4>up on her lovers best d cards. You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of electronic device card where you would say pictures

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<v Speaker 4>from let's say your camera or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, leaving your dead husband's funeral, murdered dead husband's funeral

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<v Speaker 2>to go to your parents' house and master bate and

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<v Speaker 2>send to your ex porn star, racketball coach lover is

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<v Speaker 2>next level. Okay, so this is my big question, Beth.

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<v Speaker 2>My big question is this, The lover is found guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of killing this guy, and then she goes The wife

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<v Speaker 2>goes on trial, and the lover during this trial says

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<v Speaker 2>she had nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>To do with it. I did it just for love.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what his motivation was.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to sand bag this woman, because you prosecuted that

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<v Speaker 2>that case as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do that when we come back?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we talking with La County Deputy DA Beth Silverman

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<v Speaker 3>about the Monica Semonily case, convicted Friday of sending her

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<v Speaker 3>level to kill her husband, who happened to be a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well known hairstylist named Fabio Simon Telly. We're in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of a true crime Tuesday talking with La

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<v Speaker 3>County Deputy DA Beth Silverman. But the Monica Semonili case,

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<v Speaker 3>she was convicted just a few days ago of sending

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<v Speaker 3>her lover she was having an affair with, to kill

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<v Speaker 3>her husband, who happened to be celebrity hairstylist Fabio Simonilly

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<v Speaker 3>at their home in Woodland Hills eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally that conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the lover was convicted of this murder, of Fabio's

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<v Speaker 2>murder and sentence to life without parole.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Witness at her at Monica's trial, and he insisted at

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<v Speaker 2>this trial that he killed Fabio for love, that she

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<v Speaker 2>was not the mastermind. Beth, Why did he maintain this

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<v Speaker 2>was Was there some sort of payout that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into his commissary?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would he not just roll on her?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that could be part of it. But the

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<v Speaker 4>real truth is the belief that they are going to

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<v Speaker 4>stay by each other forever, and that we showed a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of evidence to the jury where they had said

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<v Speaker 4>that to each other on recorded jail calls, recordings in

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<v Speaker 4>the lock up outside the courtroom, jail mail, things of

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<v Speaker 4>that nature, that he would take the fall for her,

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<v Speaker 4>and that she would be able to support him on

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<v Speaker 4>the outside. We made reference to maybe getting some kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ability for her to visit him at some point

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<v Speaker 4>where they'd be able to continue their sexcapaved, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was the great word.

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<v Speaker 3>There was another person in there as well, an accomplice,

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<v Speaker 3>a guy named Christopher Austin, who also testified for the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution explain his role in all of this.

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<v Speaker 4>So we said, we were able to identify him a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years back, but we never were able to

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<v Speaker 4>put enough together to have a case where we had

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<v Speaker 4>sufficient vidence to prove it to the standard that were

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<v Speaker 4>required as prosecutors until sometime late in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>towards the end of twenty twenty three, when we finally

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<v Speaker 4>arrested him and extradited him down to California. And so

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<v Speaker 4>he basically testified contrary to Baker about the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>the wife was the one, Monica Simantilly, who set the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing up. So the defense called Baker and we

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<v Speaker 4>called Austen to counter that evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to pour through all of the evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>including the nudes sent from our parents' house.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that like?

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<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of that. There was an extraordinary

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<v Speaker 4>amount of digital events in this case that they created

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<v Speaker 4>the two defendants themselves from their cell phones and they're

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<v Speaker 4>swinging they were involved in. I learned a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things on this case, so I never knew about before.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that still went on. But there's a

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<v Speaker 4>whole web page for that in a way for people

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<v Speaker 4>to hook up with other couples and have group sex

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that. And so we had a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of that kind of evidence that we had to basically

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<v Speaker 4>go through in order to find the stuff we actually

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to use for trial. And you know what, we

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<v Speaker 4>were going to put in and try and flim down

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of evidence because as it was, we were

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<v Speaker 4>in trial for over two months and we probably could

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<v Speaker 4>have been trial for four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so the swinging thing, So was if Monica

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<v Speaker 2>and the lover were into the swinging or is? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, huh, Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they had They had names. She went by the

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<v Speaker 4>name Madonna. She talked in her jail mail about wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to get rid of ditch the name sem and teely.

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<v Speaker 4>She hated that last name and she wanted to marry Baker.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, she used the name Madonna for their sexcapades,

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<v Speaker 4>but also when she signed letters to him, she that's

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<v Speaker 4>how she signed it. Monica Madonna Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the defensive this case.

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<v Speaker 3>They were trying to suggest that that that Monica was

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<v Speaker 3>was a victim in all of this as well, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that that the Baker had done all this all by.

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<v Speaker 4>Himself, right, which wasn't at all believable. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>saw Baker testify for about five minutes he was on

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<v Speaker 4>Stamp about three or four days on cross, it was

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<v Speaker 4>fairly obvious. The man couldn't find his way out of

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that the funeral stuff. I mean, I go back

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<v Speaker 2>to Scott Peterson at Lacey's memorial, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone with Amber talking about, oh, I'm at the Paris

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<v Speaker 2>and the fireworks and it's the was it New Year

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. It must have been New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>because she went missing, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually missing Christmas easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they didn't get the body for a while anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just the idea that you're at your your

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<v Speaker 2>husband or wife's funeral and your and you're on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone with your lover.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's like a husband who you were married

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<v Speaker 4>to for almost twenty years. I mean we're not talking

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<v Speaker 4>about some brief, fleeting, short lived marriage. I mean this

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<v Speaker 4>is a you know relationship where, at least from Fabio's side,

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<v Speaker 4>he loved his girls. You know, family was the most

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<v Speaker 4>important thing to him, his daughters and his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>So it just was narcissism to the nth degree degree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the daughters, how are they They're grown? I assume

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 4>They're grown now. You know, this has been going on

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<v Speaker 4>for eight years. They strong strongly believe their mother's innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, and that whole side of the family has, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>is completely hid their heads in the sand and they refused.

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<v Speaker 4>The girls didn't see any of the trial other than

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<v Speaker 4>the portions of the defense put on, so they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>interested in hearing the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see, so they don't know about the wilfullest

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<v Speaker 2>swinging and the sex sting.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, willcal ignorance. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Beth, again, thanks for taking time out of the

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon to talk to us.

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<v Speaker 1>We greatly appreciate it. Sure, sure, Beth's silverman there again.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a fun trial that honestly, like I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of work, but that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah,