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Speaker 4: Are you there? We are here? There's no camera? Well,
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Speaker 4: sus that. Did I hear Sue's John on the phones?
Speaker 1: Time? Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, Susan is on the phones? Did did Kachina have
Speaker 4: too many mimosas? Or what?
Speaker 1: Something?
Speaker 4: Today's town? All right, So Chris wants to talk about
Speaker 4: selling real estate and what is happening Chris, what's going on?
Speaker 6: I have a really unique rush to cabin in Douglas County,
Speaker 6: and I'm wondering the best way to advertise her or
Speaker 6: find the right fire.
Speaker 4: Rustic cabin where is it?
Speaker 6: Twenty minutes from home depot in Castle Rock, and it's
Speaker 6: completely secluded. It's got no neighbors. It's round up by
Speaker 6: true many rand.
Speaker 4: How many acres?
Speaker 6: It is? Not acres? It is zero point three six
Speaker 6: acres and another property ero point four acres. Everybody else
Speaker 6: there is forty acres or so.
Speaker 4: Oh so that's why. That's why it's secluded. What is
Speaker 4: a Douglas County? Where is it?
Speaker 6: Up Highway sixty seven?
Speaker 5: Where the part give us an area Douglas? It sounds
Speaker 5: like Douglas.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's past magicalch If I tell you the name
Speaker 6: of the area its I'll just tell you the name.
Speaker 6: It's by Elephant Rock if you ever heard of that?
Speaker 6: And the view of Elephant Rock is from my driveway.
Speaker 6: Is where you can see Elephant Rock?
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know where that is marked you but
Speaker 4: an a a case. I don't have a clue. I'm
Speaker 4: just going as Douglas County. I want to know a
Speaker 4: few things. Is it off grid?
Speaker 6: It's got completely off grid. It's got no upgradestill it.
Speaker 4: It's off grid. How do you get power? How do
Speaker 4: you get power?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: Not?
Speaker 6: I have solar, but I'll take it out when I leave,
Speaker 6: so I don't have the liability off it. Somebody will
Speaker 6: elect your well.
Speaker 4: Hold on a second, First of all, there would be
Speaker 4: no liability to sol the solar system you're not going
Speaker 4: to have are you going to have? Like, let me
Speaker 4: get this straight. So you're going to sell this off grid?
Speaker 4: No electricity, no running water, nothing correct, No water, no plumbing,
Speaker 4: no bathroom.
Speaker 6: Nothing correct. But one of the things I always heard
Speaker 6: was by the cheapest property in the nicest neighborhood. I
Speaker 6: think that's.
Speaker 4: Got that down, pat brother, But let me get but
Speaker 4: I still come on, man, we still have to ask
Speaker 4: some very obvious questions. There's very few people, very few
Speaker 4: people will want a cabin with no running water, no bathroom,
Speaker 4: and no power. Okay, Ted Kaczynski comes to mind. No, no, seriously,
Speaker 4: very few people are going to want that because and
Speaker 4: and what does your does your solar system provide regular electricity?
Speaker 6: Itoks?
Speaker 4: Do you own?
Speaker 6: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Do you own the solar system? Or are you leasing it?
Speaker 6: It's a piece together.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a homemade deal.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Oh, never mind, that is okay, It probably is better
Speaker 4: taking it out of there. Well, okay, on a tiny
Speaker 4: lot on a tiny lot off grid? How many square
Speaker 4: feet does the cabin four hundred? Yeah, it's it's you
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of value there, I mean, but
Speaker 4: but I don't know who you would get. Let let's
Speaker 4: think about this. I want to should we call called Frank?
Speaker 4: Do you think, well, that's totally out of his that's
Speaker 4: totally out of it. But he might have ideas well. Chris.
Speaker 8: Already, he says he called Frank. What did Frank have
Speaker 8: to say?
Speaker 6: Frank said he all talked off and that it's not
Speaker 6: something he does, but he might have a contact.
Speaker 4: I wonder if Stephanie would do Stephanie Ari, isn't she
Speaker 4: or Stephanie Thomas, you know Stephanie ri dot com. I
Speaker 4: think it's probably too far.
Speaker 6: Chris.
Speaker 8: Are you allowed to build a home on this property?
Speaker 4: You mean is it a real building? Is it a
Speaker 4: real building lot? That's a good point. Is it a
Speaker 4: real building?
Speaker 8: Crape the cabin and build a small hall?
Speaker 4: Is it a real building lot?
Speaker 8: Would the county allow you to do that?
Speaker 4: Or the buyer to do that?
Speaker 6: It's a house there now to him? They text me
Speaker 6: on a residential house.
Speaker 4: So wait a minute, what do you mean you're talking
Speaker 4: about the cabin. Yes, No, here's what I'm asking Can
Speaker 4: you knock down that cabin and put up a real house?
Speaker 4: Would they allow that?
Speaker 6: Well, that's what I'm asking to I would not see
Speaker 6: why not?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well there.
Speaker 4: Where is the closest Where is the closest power Where
Speaker 4: is the closest utility? Well, no, you would have to
Speaker 4: do a well.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, he's surrounded by forty acre home sites.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, where's the closest where's the closest power grid?
Speaker 4: If you wanted to bring power.
Speaker 6: In, I'm going to say one thousand feet.
Speaker 4: Oh okay. Have you ever inquired as to bringing in that?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 6: And I would never do it.
Speaker 4: I don't even think so. I don't think on that
Speaker 4: size of a lot you can even put a well
Speaker 4: and a septic. You don't have that much separation.
Speaker 6: No, okay, I'm pretty sure I can put a well.
Speaker 6: When I bought it, it was discussed and if a
Speaker 6: property is under forty acres and was subdivided before nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy two, it can qualify for a small household.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but where are you going to put the septic?
Speaker 6: Now that the septic? I'm not sure, and I always
Speaker 6: thought i'd put an inCider writing toilet in Right now
Speaker 6: for septic, we've got poortofoc comes out empties to thing.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, then what about what about showers and stuff?
Speaker 4: How much did you what about gray water? Where would
Speaker 4: you put gray water?
Speaker 6: And a sister? I don't have the answer to these questions.
Speaker 4: No, No, that's why I'm asking. I'm asking to see
Speaker 4: if you do or didn't. I mean, that's what I'm doing,
Speaker 4: that's all. And how much did you pay for it?
Speaker 6: I bought it from a hermit and it was never
Speaker 6: on the market, so I still got a good deal
Speaker 6: on it.
Speaker 4: God, you are so elusive. How much did you pay
Speaker 4: for it? Is that an answer?
Speaker 6: I paid for both for both properties, I paid thirty
Speaker 6: five dollars twenty one years ago.
Speaker 4: You're not going to get much more, I mean truly.
Speaker 4: I mean, you really don't have a lot there. But
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean it's worthless. For goodness sakes, that doesn't.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm calling to try and find the right buyer.
Speaker 6: I know my buyer is real limited, but it's got
Speaker 6: a whole lot of positives.
Speaker 4: Give me some positives, because you're puzzling me, give me
Speaker 4: a positive.
Speaker 6: So I'm just it's one hundred and fifty year old cabin.
Speaker 6: It was a stage stop. It's got hands huing beams
Speaker 6: in it. Yeah, I'm waiting.
Speaker 4: Waiting for the positive. Okay, what's that.
Speaker 6: It's at some place you can live. If somebody is
Speaker 6: in their RV, they can go park their RV in
Speaker 6: the driveway and live in the cabin and use all
Speaker 6: the facilities and there's they can build a new home
Speaker 6: on there. We've used it and enjoyed it for twenty
Speaker 6: one years, sweating. It's got a stream originating on the property.
Speaker 8: Okay, Chris, is their phone and internet service in your home?
Speaker 4: Any communications service?
Speaker 6: My key mobile cell phone works fine, and the star
Speaker 6: Wink I imagine works fine.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, if you have electricity again, this is a challenge.
Speaker 4: It's not worthless, that's for sure. How much are you
Speaker 4: mentally thinking you're going to get out of this? People
Speaker 4: always have an idea, and if you say you don't,
Speaker 4: you do how much?
Speaker 6: Joe, I'm thinking it's worth at waste two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: You're dreaming in fairyland. You're in fairyland and I could
Speaker 4: bake Oh my god. Well, first of all, a building
Speaker 4: lot up there wouldn't be worth that. You have a tiny,
Speaker 4: tiny postage stamp of a lot and you have a
Speaker 4: four hundred foot What is the cabin made of? Logs?
Speaker 6: Logs?
Speaker 4: Okay? Is it a real log cabin? I mean, was
Speaker 4: it built well or what?
Speaker 6: It was a real log cabin? And half of what
Speaker 6: was an edition put on?
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you that if you got two
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars, I would be as shocked as if
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris wins in a landslide victory. That's how shocked
Speaker 4: I would be. Now, No, seriously, a mark, Come on, man,
Speaker 4: we know enough, We know enough about property. What's thee okay?
Speaker 4: How about something real simple? What's the address?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Can I at least try to look at it on
Speaker 5: a satellite or something.
Speaker 6: I give you the air dress. I don't want somebody
Speaker 6: random driving.
Speaker 4: I don't blame you for giving to us off the air, Chris,
Speaker 4: give it to us off the air. Hold on, We're
Speaker 4: gonna take a break. Give it to us off the air.
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Speaker 4: two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino, your troubleshooter
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Speaker 4: A two five five. Stephanie Thomas, who's one of our
Speaker 4: real estate experts, and she and she's in the Pike
Speaker 4: Speak area, Springs area and uh you can reach her
Speaker 4: at Stephanie ari dot com. So, Stephanie, are you familiar
Speaker 4: with this area where the cabin is.
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to look the property yet,
Speaker 2: but I am familiar with Sedelia.
Speaker 4: Is it Sedalia? Basically? Yeah, it's definitely yes. And Mark,
Speaker 4: you say, can you send me a picture that you.
Speaker 5: I'll send you the best I can. It's very odd
Speaker 5: if you go to the listings, Stephanie. I don't know
Speaker 5: how they did this, but you can find the address
Speaker 5: on Zillow realtor dot com. But when you go there,
Speaker 5: they blanked out the picture of the house on all
Speaker 5: of them. But I did find one picture of it.
Speaker 5: How do they do that? And why do they do that?
Speaker 5: Out of curiosity?
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I see photos removed from listings after
Speaker 2: they've sold to kind of protect the privacy of the
Speaker 2: new homeowner, like the interior finish and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I do see that quite often.
Speaker 6: I'm listing, and.
Speaker 5: This would be you know, with no water, no electricity
Speaker 5: that this would not be something you'd get a traditional
Speaker 5: mortgage on.
Speaker 4: This would be a cash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd looking at cash. I did, actually because I
Speaker 2: heard you guys chatting about it. I'm in between appointments
Speaker 2: and have you guys on actually, And I reached out
Speaker 2: to one of my lenders who's pulled up a couple
Speaker 2: loan types and said, no, it would not be financiable
Speaker 2: without utilities.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well unless you did, like a signature loan or
Speaker 5: something else. I mean, it's not going to have a mortgage.
Speaker 5: I mean people could borrow money to buy it. But
Speaker 5: it's nothing traditional in other words, correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and anytime you go in and do something like that,
Speaker 2: you're limiting your fire pole further than you would.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is this thing needs to.
Speaker 5: Be marketed to like people that uh you know, I'm
Speaker 5: trying to think of a nice way to put it,
Speaker 5: like like the UNI bomber and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's not completely abnormal. I've seen stuff
Speaker 2: like that up in Teller Counties. It's not abnormal to
Speaker 2: see some off gride properties, but it is a rather
Speaker 2: small buire pool of people who would be looking for
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, I'd level it.
Speaker 2: I I can't sing on property.
Speaker 5: The property could be worth a ton time. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know what the property is worth. The house
Speaker 5: itself I don't think has any value. I'm going to
Speaker 5: send you a picture of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it may just be a landlot have Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: The tiny, tiny lot that's off grid, what's that going
Speaker 4: to be worth? I mean, come on, well, if.
Speaker 5: You could put up a nice pen, yeah, honestly, if
Speaker 5: you could put up a nice tiny house or something.
Speaker 4: That was well, okay, so Stephanie, what is your gut
Speaker 4: on a lot that's small?
Speaker 2: I didn't catch the size of the law. I turned
Speaker 2: on when you guys were already talking about it.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's bring them up. Let's bring them up. What
Speaker 4: size is your lot, sir?
Speaker 6: Oh to watch ninety by three hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be pretty tiny.
Speaker 10: So just patting.
Speaker 2: I know a builder, for instance, up here that does
Speaker 2: you know, manufactured some of those small modular homes being.
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty by six hundred is what we're talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they typically want half an acre in order
Speaker 2: to install septic and well, because you have certain distances,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly that's exactly the point I'm making. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so he's saying, well, put an incinerator, toilet in
Speaker 4: and all this. I mean, you know, let's just be honest.
Speaker 4: He thought he's going to get two hundred grand. I
Speaker 4: think that's that's that's Disneyland.
Speaker 5: Billo shows it at a Bucks seventy five. Oh, come on,
Speaker 5: God almighty.
Speaker 4: If anyone okay, here's what I want to know, be
Speaker 4: aware of anyone will that'll pay that much money. Beware
Speaker 4: of them because they they they're morons. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: YouTube morons. I didn't mean to assault you.
Speaker 2: But well, you know, land has different value different areas,
Speaker 2: and like I said, i'd have to really look at
Speaker 2: the exact area. I've seen some properties out in Sedalia
Speaker 2: get quite high. I've also seen properties that aren't as much.
Speaker 2: You know, that's not my primary area, but I am
Speaker 2: pretty familiar with it. It really just appezs. But it
Speaker 2: sounds like there's a lot of unique things going on
Speaker 2: with this property that.
Speaker 5: Hey, caller, does it have water rights or mineral rights
Speaker 5: or anything abnormal?
Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm sorry to say that.
Speaker 1: So if you have.
Speaker 2: Water rights, you probably got a deed for that with
Speaker 2: your purchase, and a lot of times I in my experience,
Speaker 2: I've seen them conveyed via separate deed, so like a
Speaker 2: special warranty deed for the water rights specifically, so you
Speaker 2: would have potentially a second deed for that. But you
Speaker 2: might want to look back at your paperwork from when
Speaker 2: you purchase to see.
Speaker 6: What you have.
Speaker 2: You can pull an ownership and encumbrance report on title
Speaker 2: and see if anything comes up.
Speaker 9: But the thing about minerals is not all mineral rights
Speaker 9: are going to be shown on title reports.
Speaker 2: So a lot of times if a property does have
Speaker 2: something like that, you might need an attorney to go
Speaker 2: in and research it. So water rights and mineral rights,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not as typical with like our typical
Speaker 2: real estate contract.
Speaker 4: Of course, of course, so in any case, the bottom
Speaker 4: line is, you know, maybe it's worth something. I mean, Mark,
Speaker 4: would you pay one hundred and seventy five for that?
Speaker 4: I know nothing about it. I mean my gut says
Speaker 4: no way. Jose. Well, as Amitri, you're in the market
Speaker 4: for a property in Douglas County and that you want
Speaker 4: something remote, just something to get away. Does that What
Speaker 4: does that sound like to you?
Speaker 8: It sounds promising. I'm going to after the show to
Speaker 8: word price sounds promising to know. The price doesn't the
Speaker 8: property itself does. The price could be worked out later.
Speaker 8: But if Chris is okay with it, I'll give him
Speaker 8: a call at Arrench for a viewing tomorrow.
Speaker 5: While we have Stephanie on Stephanie, how do you take
Speaker 5: a property as unique as this and even come up
Speaker 5: with the value. For God's sake, everything around it is
Speaker 5: forty acres with electricity and stuff. It's this little tiny
Speaker 5: lot with a house. It's one hundred plus years old
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 5: You're not going to find anything like that to compare
Speaker 5: it to how do you get comps on it?
Speaker 2: Well, this is where we'd have to call in a
Speaker 2: knowledgeable appraiser and probably have a prelisting appraisal because we
Speaker 2: definitely research as real estate agents, we research comps, and
Speaker 2: if there are no comps, then we can't expand out
Speaker 2: into a reasonable area to find comps. That's when you know,
Speaker 2: I would personally call an appraiser that I know to
Speaker 2: be knowledgeable with mountain properties and have somebody come in,
Speaker 2: you know, and do a little jigger deeping and you know,
Speaker 2: take a.
Speaker 9: Peek there for us.
Speaker 2: I have those prelisting appraisals on properties. You know, if
Speaker 2: they're not from the lender and the homeowners doing them,
Speaker 2: you can get them at a more reasonable dollar you know,
Speaker 2: maybe five six hundred bucks, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's worth it to go in and do that
Speaker 2: as your prelisting due diligence when you have no good
Speaker 2: information to price it on.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you very much. I mean I appreciate the information.
Speaker 6: Steph.
Speaker 4: Listen, sir, well would you list it? Would you be
Speaker 4: willing to list it? Let's just ask that That's what
Speaker 4: he called up about I'd.
Speaker 2: Have to take a peek at the area and see
Speaker 2: if it's in my area. I do have MLS for
Speaker 2: that area, and like I said, it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: similar to where I am, so Susan off address. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd have to really do some begging to see it's
Speaker 2: something I.
Speaker 10: Can assist with with.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's something, thank you very much. We appreciate that.
Speaker 4: So it could be something three oh three seven one
Speaker 4: three talk three oh three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five. So we'll we'll check it out. And I
Speaker 4: hope you have I hope you have better luck selling
Speaker 4: it with somebody than than talking to me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I just after years and years of dealing in real estate.
Speaker 4: Now I haven't been in it for a while, but god,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's got to be some value there or
Speaker 4: you get you get pummeled. Shila. eBay Motors, what's going on, Shilah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was just trying to find out if.
Speaker 11: They're reputable.
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, eb is eBay Motors reputable? Here's what I'm
Speaker 4: going to say to you. eBay Motors is as reputable
Speaker 4: as any place where they list cars. Autotrader, Dot or yeah,
Speaker 4: auto Trader or whatever cars dot com. What I mean
Speaker 4: by this, it's not the platform you have to worry about,
Speaker 4: but the people on the platform. And here's the biggest
Speaker 4: problem with eBay motors is when they lure you off
Speaker 4: the platform for a private deal. But it's under the
Speaker 4: guise of eBay motors. In fact, some of them even
Speaker 4: make you look like you're paying PayPal or paying somewhere else.
Speaker 4: I would say, are you looking to buy or sell?
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Speaker 4: seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five. Okay,
Speaker 4: so let's go back to the phones. And I feel
Speaker 4: bad giving that guy such bad news about his property.
Speaker 4: Let's give her some Sila, some good news, Sheila. Let's
Speaker 4: talk eBay Motors. You're looking for a car. What are
Speaker 4: you looking for?
Speaker 10: It's for my granddaughter and it's a twenty ten Maxima.
Speaker 4: Now why two? Why specifically are you? Oh no, that's
Speaker 4: what you're looking at right now, I'm talking about in general.
Speaker 4: What are you looking for?
Speaker 10: Oh, just a car for my granddaughter.
Speaker 4: What is your budget?
Speaker 10: My budget was is actually like up to above three
Speaker 10: thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: You're not, Oh my god, Okay, let me just say something.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to be a killjoy, but no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm really serious. I'm really serious. You will not get
Speaker 4: a car worth I mean, I'm telling you it's going
Speaker 4: to cost you way more than that in repairs and maintenance.
Speaker 4: It is an impossibility to get a good running car.
Speaker 10: I've heard you say that before.
Speaker 4: For three I promise you this that for if you
Speaker 4: buy a car for five thousand or under, double the
Speaker 4: price and then double it again in the next three
Speaker 4: to five years, I absolutely be that.
Speaker 10: That is jeebers.
Speaker 4: Yeah. How many miles on this particular car?
Speaker 10: Seventy two thousand or something?
Speaker 4: And how much is it? How much is it?
Speaker 10: It's only one thousand?
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm sorry, no, no, no, yeah, it's seventy
Speaker 4: two thousand. I'll wait a minute. eBay Motors has a
Speaker 4: car on there with seventy two thousand miles. What year
Speaker 4: is it? A twenty ten?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And they want one thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And what raised my suspicion even more It said to
Speaker 10: pay with an Apple IF card.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, okay, Oh, thank you for calling. No, I'm
Speaker 4: so serious, Thank you so much. You didn't lose your money. Listen, No, no,
Speaker 4: I didn't. I'm going to let's talk cold hard facts
Speaker 4: of life. You're not going to find a car for
Speaker 4: her for three grand Let me ask you this does
Speaker 4: how old is she?
Speaker 10: She's seventeen.
Speaker 4: Does she have a job.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she has a job and she goes. She's a
Speaker 10: senior in high school.
Speaker 4: And this is your your niece. I'm sorry, your granddaughter. Okay, listen,
Speaker 4: the best you could do is put that money down
Speaker 4: on a car, on a new car, or a nearly
Speaker 4: new car, or a really good car to credit and
Speaker 4: have a car payment. Sheila, do you have any disposable
Speaker 4: income every month? Yeah?
Speaker 10: And I mean I could, I could pay cash for
Speaker 10: a car. Actually, Okay, but I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to tell you please don't buy a piece of junk.
Speaker 4: You know who would really take care of you. I
Speaker 4: swear he would. I mean, it's such a shortcut just
Speaker 4: to call Rodney over at JFR Cars. Tell him you're
Speaker 4: buying a car for your granddaughter. You need to save
Speaker 4: as much as possible, but you want something dependable and
Speaker 4: let him try to pick something for you. Okay, Rodney,
Speaker 4: JFR Cars, Sho's you got that number handy for her?
Speaker 4: You can give her off there.
Speaker 9: He got it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really because that thousand dollars with a gift card.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you it's a ripoff.
Speaker 10: Absolutely no, I got suspicious.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You know, I'm serious. Have you listened to
Speaker 4: the show before?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, all the time.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much because you know what that means
Speaker 4: to me. That means that we've just saved you one
Speaker 4: thousand I know we did or more in problems and man, okay,
Speaker 4: thank you. I'm actually grateful that you fought to call
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Speaker 4: I have now so when Mark talks, I can bring
Speaker 4: his fat face up on screen, even if he doesn't
Speaker 4: have a camera there he is right there. Take a
Speaker 4: look at that. YouTubers, that's great. So you just put
Speaker 4: up a picture of me? Yeah I did. I haven't
Speaker 4: seen it, but anyway, yeah, well I put up I
Speaker 4: put up your picture with a text your name. But
Speaker 4: what was funny is the back monitor says getting the
Speaker 4: bad guys, and right at the moment I put it up,
Speaker 4: it says getting the mark because.
Speaker 5: It blocked the thing in a red light. Anyways, what
Speaker 5: what did you? You didn't watch the rally last night?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: You were born in New York like I was, weren't you? Well?
Speaker 4: I think I was out doing stuff all night. I
Speaker 4: didn't have a chance, but I heard it was outrageously.
Speaker 5: Twenty thousand plus inside full capacity Madison Square Garden on
Speaker 5: top of that regular Billy Joel and anywhere between twenty
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand outside. It was remarkable. Man, New Yorkers
Speaker 5: walking around like a one hundred thousand of them with red hats.
Speaker 4: It's incredible. It's absolutely Let me ask you something. I'm
Speaker 4: serious now, and I'm serious. I'm asking truly. Do you
Speaker 4: feel this is a barometer when you see rallies or
Speaker 4: do you think it's just the diehards? And like, like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I haven't been aware. Is Kamala Harris's rallies?
Speaker 4: Does she get a lot of people? I know she
Speaker 4: did with Beyonce, but I don't say didn't even sing
Speaker 4: no no, but that's because of Beyonce. How are her
Speaker 4: regular rallies? Are they attended boring as hell? But are
Speaker 4: they attended by as many people? I'm just here a
Speaker 4: bunch of butter knives but is it the same number
Speaker 4: of people, do you know? I don't know. No, not
Speaker 4: even close.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I mean I've never heard of anybody bringing in numbers
Speaker 5: like he did here in Denver.
Speaker 4: Let's just talk about black rock concert. It was. It
Speaker 4: was awesome the one we went to.
Speaker 5: But you know that was that I think what you saw,
Speaker 5: well you didn't see it, but last night was that
Speaker 5: that that last knockout, that that last blow to the head,
Speaker 5: that basically just put the nail in her coffin. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's remarkable. What was time to be in this country?
Speaker 5: It was that many people turning out in Manhattan? Yeah, yeah, Manhattan.
Speaker 5: Man In fact, did you see the Mayor Adams came
Speaker 5: out and actually said that Kamala and all this trash
Speaker 5: talk about him being hitler and stuff was horrible and
Speaker 5: it's simply not true. That's Mayor Adams. Wow, well, mayor
Speaker 5: of New York City actually came out. I said a
Speaker 5: lot of trouble himself. I mean he's probably, of course,
Speaker 5: you know why, because he spoke out about all the
Speaker 5: illegals come into a city. And when you spoke out,
Speaker 5: the Justice Department started to eyeball them because this Biden
Speaker 5: administration is the crookedest thing.
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Speaker 4: So give us a call if you have a problem,
Speaker 4: question or complain. Let me go back to the phones
Speaker 4: and uh or I also have, of course people texting me,
Speaker 4: so let me go to that right here, right now,
Speaker 4: a lot of people texting. Okay, it says here, please
Speaker 4: please ask Mark how Obama ruined healthcare? Okay, this is
Speaker 4: just a text as they heard it, it was like
Speaker 4: this man, I was paying a lot less and had
Speaker 4: a lot better coverage than Obamacare came along, and.
Speaker 5: I paid a lot more with worse coverage and had
Speaker 5: to pay new doctors. Now, I mean, it's pretty strang Whenever.
Speaker 4: People talk about the positives of Obamacare, and you hear
Speaker 4: this a lot on the mainstream news, or when people
Speaker 4: when people try to change it, here's what they say.
Speaker 4: They say, millions of people will lose access to quality
Speaker 4: medical care if you take away Obamacare or if you
Speaker 4: change it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: It did expand the one good thing it did, and
Speaker 4: I do think it wasn't bad our people in low
Speaker 4: income were able to get Medicaid more readily than they
Speaker 4: used to be able to, and it was based on
Speaker 4: income only. I don't but everything else when you had
Speaker 4: if you didn't get tax credits, and of course tax
Speaker 4: credits come from all of us, but if you didn't
Speaker 4: get tax credits, the high deductible plans were basically non
Speaker 4: insurance anyway. I mean, if you think about.
Speaker 5: It, that's, you know what, I'd somewhat argue that. I
Speaker 5: think for a twenty year old somebody in good health
Speaker 5: that wants to basically either save his money or be
Speaker 5: able to buy his first house, now that he's forced
Speaker 5: to buy coverage that covers everything in the freaking world,
Speaker 5: including if you're a male, so you think to hide
Speaker 5: you have to be able to get an abortion. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's the craziest thing that Ever, what.
Speaker 4: Are you disagree with? I said that the high deductible
Speaker 4: plans are really non insurance anyway for these people, because
Speaker 4: it's as tough for them to come up with six
Speaker 4: or eight grand as it is a million dollars for
Speaker 4: some of them.
Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you were talking about how Obamacare got
Speaker 5: rid of plans that were just catastrophic because you couldn't
Speaker 5: get just hospital coverage.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ripped up news needed by so you don't have
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Speaker 4: Shooter's gonna help come Man.
Speaker 3: Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino.
Speaker 4: Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh
Speaker 4: three seven one three talk seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five Here to help you solve problems, answer questions
Speaker 4: taking place, make your life just a little easier. And
Speaker 4: you know what's funny is I have a guy that
Speaker 4: always uh texts me when he hears major March major,
Speaker 4: and and he my text run about one to ten,
Speaker 4: ten in favor of well. Mark talks about ten U saying,
Speaker 4: excuse me, ten in favor and one every now and
Speaker 4: then against. Is this guy which which side of the
Speaker 4: coin is he on? Uh? Well, opposite you? So so
Speaker 4: I said ten in favor of you and one against.
Speaker 4: All the time, it's not always the same guy, but
Speaker 4: it's usually a one in ten ratio. So he says,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a whole bunch of texts he put,
Speaker 4: but one was about.
Speaker 1: Is uh.
Speaker 4: He says, Mark is going on and on. This was
Speaker 4: about this was an earlier text. I'm just gonna prose these.
Speaker 4: Mark is going on and on about everybody attacking poor Trump.
Speaker 4: Nobody's attacking anybody else. I agree with you. I don't
Speaker 4: know what he means by that they are attacking each other. Okay,
Speaker 4: Now the other one says it sounds like Mark is
Speaker 4: bitter and upset with celebrities lining up to be to
Speaker 4: endorse Harris.
Speaker 6: Who care?
Speaker 4: What celect? Who the hell are these people? And then
Speaker 4: they says sixty minutes never changed. Kalama's answers, that was
Speaker 4: the conspiracy theory that was proven false. Well, they're full
Speaker 4: of crap. Whoever that is, I'd love you. I don't
Speaker 4: know who it is. I just have their their number.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I almost want Trump to win to see
Speaker 4: what happens. I'm sure the economy will go to s
Speaker 4: you know, as you know, and and then see what
Speaker 4: happens and what you guys have to say. Okay, by
Speaker 4: the way, let's stop talking about Hunter Biden's laptop. That
Speaker 4: is not a true story. It did not. Oh no,
Speaker 4: it's instant. I'm sorry. He says it has nothing to
Speaker 4: do with his dad. Well, it kind of did, because
Speaker 4: it said that that was part of it, that contained
Speaker 4: the emails about his dad being paid part of the money.
Speaker 5: And then it says here even if that was Donner
Speaker 5: Eric's freaking laptop.
Speaker 4: Now I know, I you know, if you can't see
Speaker 4: the bias and media honesty, were these weird people text man?
Speaker 4: Now here's the other one. Meanwhile, Trump literally called Putin,
Speaker 4: sent him COVID tests and couldn't get them there. But
Speaker 4: we couldn't. We couldn't get him here, but he made
Speaker 4: sure his friend Putin had him. You can get that
Speaker 4: vaccine everywhere.
Speaker 6: Though.
Speaker 4: Let's ask all of that, right, let's all of that right,
Speaker 4: fake news. So this guy's truly has I mean, he's saying,
Speaker 4: you know, that was.
Speaker 5: One guy that was all from one day. That's one guy. Well,
Speaker 5: that one guy. I hope you're listening. Your new nickname
Speaker 5: is butter Knife because you're not very sharp.
Speaker 4: Now here's another one. USPS does not guarantee service for anything.
Speaker 4: I think this came from a call last week. Certified
Speaker 4: mail and registered mail with insurance attached might help. Then
Speaker 4: one guy says, I'm really surprised that you did not
Speaker 4: see that I had voted for three Republican candidates. Oh
Speaker 4: oh oh. This was a guy that sent me his
Speaker 4: ballot and I said it was and what it looked like.
Speaker 4: He's he did a straight democrat. I don't know why
Speaker 4: he sent it to me. This is another guy now
Speaker 4: and he said, I don't know why you didn't see
Speaker 4: I voted for three Republican candidates. Was this a cognitive slip?
Speaker 4: Are you? Are you truly moderate or are you just
Speaker 4: looking to disprove I have no idea what that guy's
Speaker 4: talking about. Then one guy sent an image of something,
Speaker 4: and what does he say? Send videos? This is a
Speaker 4: guy who says there are drive by shootings at Peoria
Speaker 4: near an apartment house, even though the media, of course
Speaker 4: is saying it doesn't happen. Well, we had a Broncos
Speaker 4: player gets shot a couple of weeks ago. Now, now,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, Fox interviewed our governor and he
Speaker 4: said that the apartment houses were not being you know,
Speaker 4: that was all just rumor.
Speaker 5: And all those videos were probably AI putting together all this.
Speaker 4: He says, it's rumor. Denying new denying news says that
Speaker 4: nothing is happening according to denying I'm doing. You realize
Speaker 4: people see through all this crap now.
Speaker 5: In all honesty, man, people aren't as dumb as some
Speaker 5: people think.
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't actually know that, Mark, I
Speaker 4: don't know if they do. I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people want it to be disproved because it feels better
Speaker 4: when it's not happened.
Speaker 5: People know now, they know how fake the news is,
Speaker 5: they know how they're well just to set Trump up there.
Speaker 4: By the way, your polls, the surveys of confidence in
Speaker 4: news media has gone years ago to a high of
Speaker 4: eighty eight percent down to right now thirty percent.
Speaker 5: Well that's incredible, it's thirty I know people that won't
Speaker 5: even listen to CNN because they think it's too liberal now.
Speaker 4: And I am not kidding now. One thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: people can't deny. I don't care who they are. Tell
Speaker 4: you where people can't deny? For sure? I think we
Speaker 4: no matter where what political ven you are, you can't
Speaker 4: deny that the news media, the general news media, the
Speaker 4: mainstream media, is absolutely positively in favor and biased for
Speaker 4: the democratic, progressive liberal parties. And they have been and
Speaker 4: they have been for years. They're kitty with them, they're them, Kitty,
Speaker 4: What is going on with you? Kitty? What's happened now?
Speaker 4: They might, by the way, they might think they're on
Speaker 4: a mission for good. Again, I told you this. I
Speaker 4: told you that there's nothing worse than politics when people
Speaker 4: feel they're on a mission for good. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: all right to be on a mission for good, but
Speaker 4: to feel that you are doing such good that that
Speaker 4: anything is justified, that's where it becomes really dangerous. Kitty,
Speaker 4: what's going on with you?
Speaker 9: I need some help. I am fighting toxic mold. Yes,
Speaker 9: I'm a dog, and I rented a space underneath a
Speaker 9: vet clinic for my dog room means salon, okay, And
Speaker 9: once I started there, I started getting symptoms, and I
Speaker 9: kept on getting sicker and thicker. And I was in
Speaker 9: that spot for twelve years.
Speaker 4: And I was going to wait a minute, you've been
Speaker 4: renting this place for twelve years.
Speaker 9: I did rent it for twelve years. I moved out
Speaker 9: a year ago.
Speaker 4: And you're telling me that you started feeling these symptoms
Speaker 4: years ago, Yes, years ago, and so keep going with
Speaker 4: your story.
Speaker 9: I couldn't find a doctor that would listen to me
Speaker 9: and take me serious.
Speaker 4: So well, I'm going to I'll tell you. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you why. I'll tell you why, because the vast majority
Speaker 4: of mold is not toxic. For one, I'm going to
Speaker 4: tell you why. I'm not saying that this is true
Speaker 4: for you. I am saying in the mold business, ninety
Speaker 4: eight percent of the mold is non toxic. And people
Speaker 4: have some sensitivities even to non toxic mold. But most mold,
Speaker 4: even toxic, you have to have constant exposure, which you had,
Speaker 4: and then you would have symptoms that they look at.
Speaker 4: And another thing is the symptoms onece sick not always sick.
Speaker 4: You can get over them when you remove, when you
Speaker 4: get away from the mold. I mean, it's not something
Speaker 4: that permanently damages you like asbestos. So keep going. That's
Speaker 4: probably why you're not getting a doctor to listen to you.
Speaker 4: What are the symptoms you're talking about?
Speaker 9: Chronic fatigue, nausea, migraine problems, sleeping.
Speaker 4: That's not conducive to mold. Mold is mostly upper respiratory.
Speaker 9: But it started that way with asthma and stuff and bronchitis.
Speaker 4: And then may I ask something in Kitty? When I
Speaker 4: asked this, people get offended. I promise, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to offend you. I promise you. I want to get
Speaker 4: to during this twelve years, what else was going on
Speaker 4: in your life?
Speaker 9: Nothing? I was running a business and you were happy.
Speaker 9: I was happy.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, all right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So I think she was actually tested for toxic mold
Speaker 2: towards you.
Speaker 4: Well, now that's different. That's different. Who tested you?
Speaker 9: A doctor's office in Loveland testing me?
Speaker 4: What kind of hold on? Hold on? What's the name
Speaker 4: of the clinic in Loveland, Restore Health Center?
Speaker 9: I think they just changed names.
Speaker 4: But and what do they do up there at that clinic?
Speaker 4: Are they mds?
Speaker 9: He is an MD and their focus is functional medicine,
Speaker 9: so they can prescribe medication, but they can also they
Speaker 9: also do supplements.
Speaker 4: And how did they and I want to know how
Speaker 4: they how did they do this for you? How did
Speaker 4: they do it?
Speaker 9: It's a urine test that the it's a separate company.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know the name of the company
Speaker 9: off off the hend.
Speaker 4: And what did they find?
Speaker 9: They found toxic mold, they found issues with other like
Speaker 9: I have high levels of arsenic and I think aluminum different.
Speaker 4: And what did they recommend.
Speaker 9: To go through mold detox Oh?
Speaker 4: Really, I thought?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: How much is that going to cost you? And your
Speaker 4: insurance won't cover it? Right, it won't cover it, of
Speaker 4: course it won't. And how much do they want for this? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm hearing quack quack, quack quack. I'd like to know.
Speaker 4: I'd like to know more about the lab. Now, exposure
Speaker 4: can be detected in urine for micro toxins. Okay, but
Speaker 4: but here's the deal, Okay, what they look for are
Speaker 4: chemicals produced by the mold. So okay, However, what I
Speaker 4: want to know is what did they say needed to
Speaker 4: be done in order to in order to be detoxified?
Speaker 4: How much is it going to cost you?
Speaker 9: Well, so they wanted they wanted to put me on
Speaker 9: a couple of different supplements and I wasn't seeing any help.
Speaker 4: What kind of supplements? By the way, it was a.
Speaker 9: Binder, and I think it was NAC.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be good for you no matter what.
Speaker 4: But okay, so what was the binder? Do you know?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you. Did they test you? Did they
Speaker 4: test you? I just want to ask you a test
Speaker 4: where you held supplements in your hand and they muscle
Speaker 4: tested you.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I went to a new doctor because that one.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 4: You know what, you're you're your your your symptoms in
Speaker 4: search of a diagnosis, and you're going to find more quacks,
Speaker 4: more quacks than if you went duck hunting. I'm telling
Speaker 4: you that that you're a being your you're being victimized.
Speaker 4: I don't care what anyone says. Muscle testing is a scam,
Speaker 4: and I can and I can prove it.
Speaker 5: They're muscle proved by the FDA, and there's more scams
Speaker 5: on them than virtually anything out there on what mark
Speaker 5: on this.
Speaker 4: Plantro micotoxin tests? Right, that's right, these tests. I'm good.
Speaker 4: So you look that up. I was just looking that
Speaker 4: up after I found out about the test. And and
Speaker 4: by the way, the FDA does not say Now, the
Speaker 4: FDA is not the end all we heard through COVID.
Speaker 4: Of course, they're not the best in the world. However,
Speaker 4: I will tell you that that that the symptoms you're
Speaker 4: having can be anything. Okay, it can also be depression. Okay.
Speaker 4: That's why I asked, what was going on in your life?
Speaker 11: Do you have to say when these tests were done?
Speaker 9: I had the test done last year, and the new
Speaker 9: doctor put me on supplements and I did clear it.
Speaker 9: I did clear it. Then I was exposed to a
Speaker 9: second round of toxic mold at the apartment that I
Speaker 9: was living at.
Speaker 4: And so how did you know?
Speaker 6: Wait?
Speaker 4: Wait, how do you know the apartment you were living
Speaker 4: in had toxic mold?
Speaker 9: I saw it on the walls.
Speaker 4: Okay, how do you know? Hold on, how do you
Speaker 4: know it was toxic.
Speaker 9: Because I could tell from the symptoms, because.
Speaker 4: Okay, well you can't tell. You can't. You can't tell
Speaker 4: from the symptoms. You got to test the mold.
Speaker 5: Tom you said something that she just simply didn't listen to.
Speaker 5: So I want to repeat it. You are looking for
Speaker 5: a diagnosis for something. People are going to rip you
Speaker 5: off left and right. Those tests are absolute garbage.
Speaker 4: You know, I feel sorry for you. I know you
Speaker 4: didn't call by the way to get a lecture. I
Speaker 4: know you didn't, and I know you're going to go upset.
Speaker 4: And and that's why. You know, people give us bad
Speaker 4: ratings because they don't like what we say, and unfortunately
Speaker 4: for them, they get ripped off. We say things that
Speaker 4: are truthful. And I am telling you the biggest ripoff
Speaker 4: in medicine right now is clearing toxic mold from people,
Speaker 4: because people believe they are infected and they're poison you.
Speaker 4: How old are you right now, kitty? Forty forty? Have
Speaker 4: you ever had have you ever had hormone replacement therapy?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay? Good? Good? What do you have? What are you?
Speaker 4: What are you on right now?
Speaker 9: I am on per gesterone and testosterone?
Speaker 4: Good good, good good? And are they bioidemically identical hormones?
Speaker 4: And you get blood tests and all that. Yes, that's
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that. Do you also have a
Speaker 4: pretty good diet?
Speaker 9: I don't, because well, when I do eat, I do
Speaker 9: eat really well. But right now I have no appetite.
Speaker 4: M kitty, What is the likely hood that you come across.
Speaker 4: What is the likelihood that you are exposed to killer
Speaker 4: toxic mold twice in your life and the symptoms persist
Speaker 4: and you were cleared. I think you have to look deeper.
Speaker 4: Now listen. I don't care if you tell me to
Speaker 4: go to hell and never listen to me again. I truly, kitty,
Speaker 4: I care for you, I really do. I want you
Speaker 4: not to keep going to these quacks. I want you
Speaker 4: you know, did you know that the male Clinic they
Speaker 4: won't do these tests? Neither will M. D Anderson or
Speaker 4: any of these any kind of really good places don't
Speaker 4: do any of this toxic mold crap. Now. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying it's impossible to be infected with toxic mold, but
Speaker 4: it's like being infected with any bacteria or any problem.
Speaker 4: You get rid of it, it doesn't stay with you.
Speaker 4: You're not going to be permanently ill. I have to
Speaker 4: take a break. If you're on when we come back,
Speaker 4: that's great. We have some tips, but I wouldn't blame
Speaker 4: you if you hang up, because I'm not giving you
Speaker 4: the answers that you want. You want to be sick,
Speaker 4: You want to find a reason for the way you
Speaker 4: feel I understand that I'm Tom Martino. Go with a
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Speaker 4: So I looked up all of these these mold things
Speaker 4: around the country. Now this is the controversy, and I
Speaker 4: really want to be sensitive here because when people have
Speaker 4: it used to be chronic fatigue syndrome, and they could
Speaker 4: there was no test for it. There's no test for
Speaker 4: chronic fatigue syndrome. However, there are plenty of medical doctors
Speaker 4: that will tell you when you have it and take
Speaker 4: your money, but insurance never covers it. Chronic fatigue syndrome
Speaker 4: is in that category of symptoms without a cause, and
Speaker 4: people want to find a cause, but it always corresponds
Speaker 4: with an emotional trauma or a depression or something in
Speaker 4: someone's life along with it. Now, chronic fatigue is way
Speaker 4: better than what else happens from those incidents, which is
Speaker 4: a paranoia and almost a chronic depression paranoia where people
Speaker 4: after something like that happened, start imagining people are in
Speaker 4: their home spying on them or after them. It's better
Speaker 4: to go the chronic fatigue route if you have to
Speaker 4: do any of that. And I'm not making fun of this,
Speaker 4: I swear to God, I'm not. I have felt chronic
Speaker 4: fatigue at times when I've been down in my life.
Speaker 4: I have, and I recognize it for what it is.
Speaker 4: If you don't recognize things for what it is for
Speaker 4: what they are, you're going to chase symptoms your entire life.
Speaker 4: You really will. Now, is there real unless, of course
Speaker 4: there is a lot of it though people are looking
Speaker 4: for now. If they see mold, they call it toxic mold.
Speaker 4: Two percent of mold is toxic, and I mean seriously toxic.
Speaker 4: Maybe less than two percent it used to be. Now
Speaker 4: here's the deal. Do you know how many people that
Speaker 4: lived into their nineties and one hundreds grew up with
Speaker 4: root sellers that were nothing but mold The houses were
Speaker 4: filled with moldy basements and floors. Listen, I think we
Speaker 4: the more we hear in the media about things, the
Speaker 4: more we latch onto them. Okay, you know they talk
Speaker 4: about long covid um looking. I'm not gonna do. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna go on a rand and try to be
Speaker 4: some nut, but I'm gonna tell you this. Do you
Speaker 4: know that they don't find the back to do you know?
Speaker 4: They don't find the COVID in their bloods after a while,
Speaker 4: but they call it long covid because the symptoms persist. Now,
Speaker 4: I wonder if anyone's done a study on the people
Speaker 4: who have long COVID versus the people that don't. They're
Speaker 4: weakened anyway, they're run down. Maybe many of them have
Speaker 4: emotional problems. I don't know. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 4: they can't blood test for long COVID. The way they
Speaker 4: tell you you have long COVID is you had COVID
Speaker 4: and now you still feel crappy, So they call it
Speaker 4: long covid well, Kitty didn't have COVID, maybe so she
Speaker 4: had mold. Other people have other things. I'm saying that
Speaker 4: if you truly want to get better, then look at
Speaker 4: root causes and don't latch onto one mark. Do you
Speaker 4: remember the guy that called with he and his wife
Speaker 4: had the more Gallon's disease under their skin. Of course,
Speaker 4: no test for more gallanxy, he's no such thing. But
Speaker 4: they swear to God there are things under their skin,
Speaker 4: burrowing under their skin, and they're completely convinced of it,
Speaker 4: and they get so angry with me when I look
Speaker 4: for alternatives. Am I looking for an alternative to make
Speaker 4: people sound crazy or depressed? No, I'm not. I swear
Speaker 4: to God, I'm trying to help them. Kitty sounds exactly
Speaker 4: like people who have called in with this mold thing,
Speaker 4: and none of them have. They say, well, we had
Speaker 4: an upper respiratory. You know, well, okay, people have upper
Speaker 4: respiratory all the time. Then it goes away, Then they
Speaker 4: get chronic fatigue, they get other things. Unless you actually
Speaker 4: tested the mold spores and they were airborne, not just
Speaker 4: toxic mold. It has to be airborne. It's not going
Speaker 4: to get into your lungs that make you sick. And
Speaker 4: if it does get into your lungs and make you sick,
Speaker 4: you can get rid of it. You don't have to
Speaker 4: go to a schlock clinic and the block tests and
Speaker 4: go ahead, knock. If she went to a pulmonologist, Okay, kitty,
Speaker 4: have you ever gone to a pulmonologist, which is a
Speaker 4: lung doctor.
Speaker 9: No, I haven't gotten a chance.
Speaker 4: You really need you really need to do you really do?
Speaker 11: How long you've had these symptoms twelve years and you
Speaker 11: never well, if you've had it for twelve years and
Speaker 11: you haven't had the time to go to a pulmonologist,
Speaker 11: you know something isn't isn't right.
Speaker 4: She's only going to doctors who give her I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what it is. She's going to doctors that are
Speaker 4: giving him her positive affirmation. They're giving her what her bias.
Speaker 4: He wants to find something wrong. So she's going to
Speaker 4: doctors and not listening to the ones who say, don't worry,
Speaker 4: I don't think it's anything.
Speaker 11: But when when she says I haven't had let me finish, kiddy,
Speaker 11: When you say you haven't had time to go to
Speaker 11: promonologists after twelve years, that.
Speaker 4: Statement is just yeah, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous because that's
Speaker 4: the very first place you go if you have a
Speaker 4: lung problem, you go to a lung doctor.
Speaker 9: You can't go to them without getting a referral from doctor.
Speaker 4: Well, why can't that m d UP in Loveland give
Speaker 4: you way?
Speaker 6: Wait?
Speaker 4: Wait, why can't the shlock md UP and Loveland give
Speaker 4: you a referral the one that told you you have
Speaker 4: a toxic mold?
Speaker 9: Because I don't need to. I don't need someone else
Speaker 9: to confirm it when it's already been confirmed.
Speaker 4: It hasn't been confirmed. How has it been confirmed? Let
Speaker 4: me ask you this. Do you have one test? Do
Speaker 4: you have one one test one that shows the environment
Speaker 4: you were in has toxic mold in the air.
Speaker 9: No, because I haven't paid for the test.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll pay for the test. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 4: I'll pay. I'm going to pay for the test. I'm
Speaker 4: going to send someone to find mold in that you
Speaker 4: were in a veterinarian's place. Do you think it's still
Speaker 4: moldy or did he remediate it?
Speaker 9: Oh h no, he didn't alleviate.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now, so if I go there, hold on it,
Speaker 4: If I go there and do mold testing in the air.
Speaker 4: I'll find toxic mold spores at a dangerous level in
Speaker 4: the air. Is that right?
Speaker 9: If you do the correct testing this, what's.
Speaker 4: The correct testing the one that finds what you want?
Speaker 4: What's the correct testing kit.
Speaker 9: No, it's going to be a test. I already talked
Speaker 9: to the doctor. It's a specific company that tests for it.
Speaker 9: And you and you put petri dishes out. Yes, run
Speaker 9: you run the air, you close. I think you leave
Speaker 9: it all for an hour and then you close you off.
Speaker 4: That's what we're gonna do. That's what we're going to
Speaker 4: do for you. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 4: do a real mold test. We got to get this
Speaker 4: doctor's we got to get this veterinarians approval.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not going to happen now that you think. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: we can tell him. We're not trying to go after him.
Speaker 4: We simply want to know. We just want to know.
Speaker 4: Here's the other point. Are you in a toxic mold
Speaker 4: situation right now?
Speaker 6: Kittie?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: Good? So are you getting better? Hold on? So? Are
Speaker 4: you getting better?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 4: Good? So, by the way, and I'm so sorry, I
Speaker 4: never asked you this. What can we do for you?
Speaker 4: What did you call about? Because I want to if
Speaker 4: there's something simple we can do for you, I want
Speaker 4: to help you. What do you want?
Speaker 9: I really wanted the test the place to be tested, okay.
Speaker 9: And if it is have mold in it, then I
Speaker 9: would like a lawyer to help pay for all the
Speaker 9: pain and suffering and lost wages. But I because of it.
Speaker 2: Because she's not even in there anymore?
Speaker 4: Are they going to allow someone.
Speaker 1: To come in?
Speaker 4: And can I say something, kitty kitty? Yes, the problem
Speaker 4: is in the history of old Unless you have a
Speaker 4: compromise immune system to begin with, you're not going to
Speaker 4: have a long term illness. So what pain and suffering
Speaker 4: are you talking about? If you were there for twelve years?
Speaker 4: Is that the pain and suffering you're talking about.
Speaker 9: From the mold that was making me sick?
Speaker 4: Okay? And when did you move out of there.
Speaker 9: Last November?
Speaker 6: Why didn't you.
Speaker 11: Move out eleven years ago?
Speaker 9: Because I didn't know what was making me sick?
Speaker 4: How did you find out what was making you sick
Speaker 4: while you were there at the VETS office?
Speaker 9: Well, I knew that there was major water damage every
Speaker 9: time it would rain, there would be water coming.
Speaker 4: Okay, building, that's something.
Speaker 9: Didn't then?
Speaker 4: How did but how did you find out? How did
Speaker 4: you find out that it was mold? Hey, we're running
Speaker 4: super lately, all right, Grey, I got to take a break, Kitty, Kitty,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be straight with you. If you know,
Speaker 4: we would like to help. But I don't think you
Speaker 4: want it. I really think you want it to be mold.
Speaker 4: You're convinced it's mold, and I don't know what else
Speaker 4: to do for you. I'm Tom Martine Moore coming up.
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Speaker 4: three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. So I just
Speaker 4: got a text that says, ask Mark about the Puerto
Speaker 4: Rican comments at the Trump rally. Is he proud of
Speaker 4: Trump for that racist stuff spewed at the Madison Cart
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden rally. I didn't hear it, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it was Trump. I think it was somebody there,
Speaker 4: and I think they even issued a disclaimer saying they
Speaker 4: don't believe in that. Yeah, it was a comedian who
Speaker 4: cares a comedy. Oh it was a comedian. I didn't
Speaker 4: know that. But what did he say? He said something
Speaker 4: about trash heap and but did he say anything else
Speaker 4: about the people? I mean, he said some stuff that
Speaker 4: had to be bleeped even I thought. But in any case,
Speaker 4: so the uh, somebody said Rogan's podcast with Trump was
Speaker 4: the highest ever. Here's another guy, Tom, I disagree with
Speaker 4: you on buying the car under five grand and not
Speaker 4: have to and not and not have to put money
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: What I said was you can't, okay, And then he says,
Speaker 4: I will say it's extremely hard to find but with
Speaker 4: a little but to be a little mechanically inclined to
Speaker 4: know what's good. So now this these are the idiots
Speaker 4: that encourage people to do stuff like this, Because he
Speaker 4: happened to buy a car for thirteen hundred bucks and
Speaker 4: he happened to buy one really good. Okay, what I'm
Speaker 4: getting at is this, it's highly unlikely. Okay, highly highly
Speaker 4: highly highly highly highly unlikely. I call that impossible for
Speaker 4: most people. Okay, I stand by it. Don't do it.
Speaker 4: I think it's safer to tell people don't do it
Speaker 4: than to tell people, oh, go ahead, it could happen anyway.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three talk three oh three
Speaker 4: seven one three eight two five five. I'm just so
Speaker 4: tired of people when they think they you know, oh,
Speaker 4: I did it once, so it must happen now on
Speaker 4: the so of mold. See I hit, I hit a nerve.
Speaker 4: People get upset. People get upset because I don't go
Speaker 4: along with it. Now, coming up, we're gonna be talking
Speaker 4: about high efficiency and hybrid systems. I want to talk
Speaker 4: about those. Then I want to talk about uh eight
Speaker 4: a eight adheating dot com in general, about going into
Speaker 4: the winter season. But Joanna, I see something real quick
Speaker 4: here that caught my Hanna Johannah. Yes, okay, because we're
Speaker 4: gonna need to be ti Johannah, what's going on?
Speaker 12: Basically? I love I lived in the city of Aspen
Speaker 12: at employee housing that you buy. Yeah, and there's notorious
Speaker 12: for mold and building defects. There's been lawsuits. The h
Speaker 12: o A only covered up my mold about five times
Speaker 12: in sixteen years.
Speaker 4: And now this is employee. You own this place, right, yes? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it a.
Speaker 10: Condo, it's a condo.
Speaker 4: And is it subsidized or something.
Speaker 12: It's subsidized exactly, okay, as worker housing.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, So what's the problem they's.
Speaker 4: She's saying, they're not addressing the mold issues.
Speaker 12: They're trying to make me sell my home. I actually
Speaker 12: have something called disseminating idiopathic scalpal hyperosatosis and cancer from
Speaker 12: the mold. But the disseminating thing is directly from the
Speaker 12: mold ortysis.
Speaker 4: Now hold on a second, we're trying to look it up.
Speaker 4: But Joanna, Joanna, I don't want to make fun of
Speaker 4: your sickness. Now, what kind of cancer do you have?
Speaker 12: It's breast cancer. I have all the pictures. I can't
Speaker 12: get healthcare. The city of Aspen is paying off doctors
Speaker 12: not to tell me.
Speaker 4: No, Joanna, this sounds highly so. So your breast cancer,
Speaker 4: what stage is it?
Speaker 6: It's in stage?
Speaker 4: Like, are you, Joanna, are you staying stage four cancer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you're not doing any treatments whatsoever.
Speaker 12: The thing is, I got to tell you the city
Speaker 12: of Aspen is covering up why I have cancer.
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't matter why you have it. Insurance doesn't
Speaker 4: have to know why you have it to treat you.
Speaker 4: Do you have insurance?
Speaker 12: I don't, But the doctors are all ling even though
Speaker 12: they're staying. I'm delusional my medical records. A doctor never
Speaker 12: told me.
Speaker 4: It's called hold on a sec Joanna, hold on please,
Speaker 4: I have to take this break and I want to
Speaker 4: give you more time. I'm serious. Susan, sus, sus could
Speaker 4: you get me a sandwich? The name of that off
Speaker 4: the air hers, let's spell it out on the on
Speaker 4: the caller. Thank you. We have more coming right up.
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Speaker 4: nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Okay, here's I don't
Speaker 4: want to cut her short, and I truly do want
Speaker 4: to see I have an idea on how I think
Speaker 4: we can get to the bottom of this, Johanna. Uh if, Johanna,
Speaker 4: if you could please hold seriously. I have some questions
Speaker 4: and want to try to pinpoint a few things, and
Speaker 4: I'm not going to uh. You know, I don't know
Speaker 4: if people are out to get you or not, but
Speaker 4: one thing we surely can do is help you get answers,
Speaker 4: real answers if you're willing to do it. And I'm
Speaker 4: even willing to foot some of the bill. I say
Speaker 4: this because when I hear people suffering, I want to
Speaker 4: know truly what the situation is so I can rule
Speaker 4: it out. So hang in, Johanna, please Johanna, and we
Speaker 4: will get to you. We have Garrett with us from
Speaker 4: eight eight eight Heating dot Com, who will be talking
Speaker 4: to shortly about what he's doing this season and some
Speaker 4: of the things people are running up against. Now, Garrett,
Speaker 4: real quick here, you're doing a deep clean for forty
Speaker 4: five bucks. Is that correct?
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, doing a deep clean, all safety checks, pulling, cleaning,
Speaker 13: and putting it.
Speaker 4: Back together excellently. We're going to talk about that. Plus
Speaker 4: I do want to talk there's a reason I'm talking
Speaker 4: about high efficiency systems. I don't think people know there
Speaker 4: are many tax credits or even rebates from utility companies
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Speaker 4: of Garrett, Garrett, real quick here in that you were
Speaker 4: talking about a deep clean, I want to ask you
Speaker 4: something else. Have you been called by solar companies to
Speaker 4: do high efficiency electric and electric slash gash or hybrid units?
Speaker 13: Well, we've been called by homeowners that have solar to
Speaker 13: do all of our high efficiency heat pump systems.
Speaker 6: Eira.
Speaker 4: You did they know that if they do this in
Speaker 4: conjunction with the solar system the same year they put
Speaker 4: it all together, they can actually get tax credits for
Speaker 4: the entire total. Did you know that for the entire total?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that I mean, so think about that. That's in
Speaker 4: essence getting thirty percent tax credit for that heating system.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a it's a good deal. I mean, I can't,
Speaker 13: I can't say nothing about it.
Speaker 4: Now, aren't there other utility company rebates those? Sometimes when
Speaker 4: you do high efficiency?
Speaker 13: There are there are high efficiency when it comes to
Speaker 13: heat pump systems, now, yes there is.
Speaker 4: So what do you get a rebate of some kind?
Speaker 13: Yep, It just depends on the heat pump system you get,
Speaker 13: you know, hundreds of dollars to one thousand dollars just over.
Speaker 13: So just depends on the efficiency and what you're matching
Speaker 13: it with.
Speaker 4: And what if you found with high efficiency furnaces people
Speaker 4: can save over the old eighty percents because a lot
Speaker 4: of people still have those.
Speaker 13: Yeah, some subsystems we put in that we take out,
Speaker 13: you know, we're talking full systems can be anywhere forty
Speaker 13: to fifty percent more efficient.
Speaker 4: Stand are you kidding me? Forty to fifty percent more efficient?
Speaker 13: Yeah, depending on the age that we're actually taken out.
Speaker 4: Holy crap. Okay, Brian has a quick question for you
Speaker 4: and Johanna. I haven't forgotten about you. I truly want
Speaker 4: to make you some offers here that I think would
Speaker 4: help you. Brian, go ahead, What is your question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning, good morning. Hey.
Speaker 14: I wanted to let you know that I love eight
Speaker 14: eight eight. I dealt with Kyle and I got my
Speaker 14: central AC installed.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for letting us know that.
Speaker 14: Years ago that No, they were awesome. Now I'm in
Speaker 14: I'm shopping around for a new water heater to be installed.
Speaker 14: So of course I called eight eight eight first because
Speaker 14: I knew they did that work. But then when I called,
Speaker 14: I found out that they're referring everything to twenty four
Speaker 14: fix it. Now twenty four fix it wants a forty
Speaker 14: dollars charge just to come out and give me an estimate.
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, no, it's the hold on a second, let
Speaker 4: me explain that to you. It's thirty nine bucks. And
Speaker 4: what they do is they will give you a complete
Speaker 4: diagnostic of any problem, no matter how long it takes
Speaker 4: to find that's plumbing, heating, cooling, electric, en drains, and
Speaker 4: they credit you the thirty nine if you have the
Speaker 4: work done. No one comes out to a house free
Speaker 4: unless it is a second opinion.
Speaker 13: Well, Brian, let me let me just hop in there. Brian,
Speaker 13: First off, thanks for using us and Kyle. You know
Speaker 13: he's been with me forever, so I really appreciate that,
Speaker 13: and I like the kind He's awesome. Yeah, absolutely, he's
Speaker 13: a you know, he's one of those guys that just
Speaker 13: always does the right thing. So I'd love to have
Speaker 13: him with us. But that being said, you know, if
Speaker 13: you're looking for a water heater, we can get my
Speaker 13: personal number offline and I will go ahead and get
Speaker 13: you in contact with the right person to make that happen.
Speaker 4: Okay, that would be awesome.
Speaker 14: I mean, I mean absolutely nobody works for free, but
Speaker 14: you know, to pay to earn my business. I mean,
Speaker 14: you guys, didn't you know, I didn't have to do
Speaker 14: that before.
Speaker 4: So okay, that's wonderful. But I want to ask Garrett
Speaker 4: on a regular basis if people call for an estimate
Speaker 4: for a water heater, let me clarify you will go
Speaker 4: out free of charge. When people call and say, I
Speaker 4: think I need a water heater, I'd like an estimate.
Speaker 13: We actually took a break from water heaters right now.
Speaker 13: We are, you know, looking at bringing it back at
Speaker 13: some time in the future.
Speaker 4: But we well he was calling about a water heater.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's why we're actually have a partnership with several
Speaker 13: other plumbers at the same time. So if he just
Speaker 13: gets my number off air, I'll go ahead and hook
Speaker 13: him up with the right person.
Speaker 5: He's basically saying he's not going to get charged anything.
Speaker 4: No, I understand that. But on a regular business model, Garrett,
Speaker 4: I'm asking Garrett, as a regular business model, how do
Speaker 4: you feel about people going out free when the people
Speaker 4: they're not saying something is broken, they're saying they may
Speaker 4: want a new one.
Speaker 13: Yeah, a lot of people do free estimates. It's not okay, Ye,
Speaker 13: It's just a normal thing or industry okay.
Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't. A lot of people
Speaker 4: do what's called the service called now. I don't know
Speaker 4: if fix it does it. I mean he said that.
Speaker 4: I'd like to call it and clarify it with them.
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is this is that the thirty
Speaker 4: nine dollars diagnostic fee is if you have a problem
Speaker 4: and you want someone out to your house, that's thirty nine.
Speaker 4: So that's what rain when you said forty bucks. Maybe
Speaker 4: they think you have something wrong with your water heater
Speaker 4: and they'll come out and give you a you know,
Speaker 4: for thirty nine bucks. They roll a truck for thirty nine.
Speaker 4: When they get there, then whatever you have done, they
Speaker 4: credit you the thirty nine bucks if you say, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll think about it and never call them back. You
Speaker 4: paid thirty nine bucks to find the problem.
Speaker 13: You know, we did that. We did that on our
Speaker 13: service calls for furnaces and everything. In the past, we
Speaker 13: had a fifty eight dollars eighty eight dollars service fee.
Speaker 13: We'd get out there and had to do a repair.
Speaker 13: We weave the service fee.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I'm saying is it's not unheard of. However,
Speaker 4: when somebody calls for a replacement furnace or water heater
Speaker 4: or replacements and they know they want one, usually there
Speaker 4: is no charge. So I'd like to clarify that if
Speaker 4: you could Assumese put in a call over there, maybe
Speaker 4: get one of the people on about it, because I'd
Speaker 4: like to clarify how they do it. If someone calls
Speaker 4: and says I think I need a water heater and
Speaker 4: you were told Brian, it for them to even come
Speaker 4: out and look and to give you an estimate for
Speaker 4: a water heater would be thirty nine bus or forty
Speaker 4: bucks as you're putting it.
Speaker 2: No, I need a water beater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. You
Speaker 4: know you need a water heater, and they said to
Speaker 4: come out and give you an estimate was going to
Speaker 4: be thirty nine bucks.
Speaker 14: Sure, and with any smart consumer you want to get
Speaker 14: multiple estimates.
Speaker 6: So no, I get I.
Speaker 4: Get what you're saying. I get what you're saying, and
Speaker 4: and and so let's just clarify that. Thank you, Brian,
Speaker 4: appreciate it. And of course you know I I thanks
Speaker 4: for the kudos for eight eighty heating dot com. That
Speaker 4: was very we We know Garrett's a great guy and
Speaker 4: he's been with us for years. So let's keep going here. Okay, Now,
Speaker 4: Joanna Johanna, I want to summarize this real quick. Johanna
Speaker 4: has some health problem, serious health problem. She believes it's
Speaker 4: come from living in Aspen in a condo and subsidized
Speaker 4: well she owns it and it's worker housing, and she
Speaker 4: believes it's from exposure to mold where the HUA wouldn't
Speaker 4: address it. And she said she was diagnosed with Lord
Speaker 4: that this disease is a very long name, and plus
Speaker 4: she has cancer. She says, stage four breast cancer. So
Speaker 4: very quickly, I need to ask a couple of questions Johanna,
Speaker 4: the stage four breast cancer that was diagnosed by.
Speaker 12: A doctor diagnosed it. What's that no one diagnosed it?
Speaker 12: I have medical malpractice?
Speaker 4: Okay, no, no, I'm asking. Just just just answer the question.
Speaker 4: I promise you. I'm not trying to trick you. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to help you. She's so so. No doctor, no
Speaker 4: doctor diagnosed you with stage four breast cancer.
Speaker 14: No.
Speaker 12: I needed a biopsy three years ago and they put
Speaker 12: me on the table and they said it was too risky.
Speaker 4: So you've never you've never. Okay, I'm going to say,
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask just one more I'm just going
Speaker 4: to ask one more time. You were never diagnosed with
Speaker 4: stage four breast cancer?
Speaker 12: Yes, but I have all the evidence.
Speaker 4: And what evidence is Okay, what evidence do you have
Speaker 4: that you have stage four breast cancer?
Speaker 12: I have pictures of a cat scan that shows I
Speaker 12: have cancer everywhere?
Speaker 4: And who told you that cat scan showed cancer everywhere?
Speaker 12: My friend, Jeter My.
Speaker 4: Is your friend a doctor, of course. Okay, so hold
Speaker 4: on a second. So no one, actually no medical professional
Speaker 4: has ever diagnosed you with stage four breast cancer. Okay,
Speaker 4: how about how about that other long disease? My god,
Speaker 4: how do you say that again? I I doc? How
Speaker 4: do you say myotysis. Well, it's more than that. But
Speaker 4: the short name for it is d I s H. Right,
Speaker 4: that that's just a bit very that's the initials. Who
Speaker 4: diagnosed you with that disease DOMT.
Speaker 11: It's disseminating idiopathic skeletal skeletal hyperostosis.
Speaker 4: Well, idiopathic, and the symptoms could be that just means
Speaker 4: she's got What it really says is she's got pain
Speaker 4: from unknown symptoms from unknown causes.
Speaker 10: I mean, no, I.
Speaker 4: I that's what idiopathic means. That's what idiopathic. Who diagnosed
Speaker 4: you with that? You gave us a doctor's name because
Speaker 4: that could help clerk the clerk over at seven eleven,
Speaker 4: Just wait a second, No, seriously, who what's the doctor's name?
Speaker 12: Doctor Stanley Gerstein? And I can send you emails with everything.
Speaker 4: Is doctor Stanley Gerst is doctor Stanley? Is he a MD?
Speaker 12: Yes, he's an MD?
Speaker 4: And what did he recommend for treatment for this?
Speaker 12: He never told me. It's on my medical records and
Speaker 12: no one has told me.
Speaker 4: And Joanna Johnna, you complained of joint pain, right, that's
Speaker 4: what this diagnosis means. It basically means it's more than.
Speaker 12: That it's calcifications of your ligaments and tendons around your
Speaker 12: spine and it travels everywhere.
Speaker 4: What testing did he do to diagnose that?
Speaker 12: He did the MRI.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, now can if you'd like? Are you
Speaker 4: still working in Aspen?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 12: I can't work. I haven't been able to work since
Speaker 12: my clients with Alzheimer's died three years ago.
Speaker 4: Are you on Social Security disability?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 12: I can't even I can't. I'm not I should be
Speaker 12: on it.
Speaker 4: Well, why aren't you on it?
Speaker 10: Let me tell you?
Speaker 12: When I was getting sicker and sicker, I told the
Speaker 12: h o A that I was And the next day
Speaker 12: they had a E. S.
Speaker 4: I S.
Speaker 12: Trucks outside my house and someone was doing something on
Speaker 12: my roof and I asked her what are they doing?
Speaker 12: And she said, oh, there's Stalin and Tennis. Well to me,
Speaker 12: they've been trying to fix the roofing and the site.
Speaker 4: What do you think they're doing, Johanna, what do you
Speaker 4: think they're doing.
Speaker 12: For covering up it? And let me tell you this
Speaker 12: is fair?
Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 4: All Right, people, this is the anatomy of a problem,
Speaker 4: and we dissect it because I don't want I don't
Speaker 4: want to leave any stone unturned. Johanna, deputy doc, asked
Speaker 4: a question, has anyone else in the building gotten sick?
Speaker 12: I know it's just in my house, But if you
Speaker 12: look at.
Speaker 4: Why why do you but but mold, mold and water
Speaker 4: and all of that. You said it's a condo, right,
Speaker 4: it's it's shared housing, right, I mean shared building, right? Yeah,
Speaker 4: the sighting is all wet, So why do you think
Speaker 4: only your place got this toxic situation?
Speaker 12: It's not just my place, but I'm the one disseminating.
Speaker 12: Idiopathic celical hyperositosis is from mold. I got tested positive.
Speaker 4: It actually isn't it actually is not even associated with mold.
Speaker 4: Idiopathic means cause unknown. Did you know that? Did you
Speaker 4: know that's what the docals offer tongue? Did you know
Speaker 4: that the doctor when he put idiopathic in that it
Speaker 4: means unknown cause.
Speaker 12: Now it's they said, disseminating.
Speaker 4: Idiopathic means un knowing cause.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but if you look it up, it is caused
Speaker 12: by mold, it can.
Speaker 11: Be, but disseminating just means it's in more than one place.
Speaker 4: That's right, That's right.
Speaker 11: And I have one question when you when you say
Speaker 11: you have stage four cancer and somebody looked at the MRI,
Speaker 11: let's say that even if they saw tumors that were
Speaker 11: spread throughout your body, there's no way from an MRI
Speaker 11: that you can tell what the initial cause of the
Speaker 11: cancer was.
Speaker 12: No, I have I don't know it's it's breast cancer.
Speaker 12: I had a mammogram. Then the thing is at the
Speaker 12: city of Aspen is covering up the mold problem in
Speaker 12: my house?
Speaker 4: Why Why?
Speaker 12: Because they know I'm.
Speaker 10: Sick from it.
Speaker 12: And the doctor didn't even tell me I had disseminating
Speaker 12: ideopathic scoletal hyperossociation.
Speaker 4: Okay, see the reason the reason they're telling you. Have
Speaker 4: you ever considered that you don't have cancer and you
Speaker 4: don't have dish disease? Have you ever considered that good?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 12: I have it. I was in a wheelchair.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is like crazy. Listen, Johanna, what
Speaker 4: were you? Did you need us to refer you to? Who?
Speaker 4: What did you need?
Speaker 12: I'm see the doctors are our line. I was abducted
Speaker 12: in my home. I was arrested for something I didn't
Speaker 12: do to the next or neighbor. And I'm not even
Speaker 12: in the newspaper. That's the other big issue that what
Speaker 12: were you?
Speaker 4: What were you arrested for?
Speaker 12: It didn't tell me. I only found that out three
Speaker 12: months they did they.
Speaker 4: Lock you up for forty eight hours by any chance?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 4: Were you in a rubber room.
Speaker 12: Half a year and a half while I had cancer?
Speaker 12: And they know I had pictures on my cat scan
Speaker 12: on my walls.
Speaker 4: How long have you had stage four breast cancer?
Speaker 12: I don't know if I have it in my bones now,
Speaker 12: I'm trying to send you emails? Can I can I
Speaker 12: get with a doctor to send them pictures of this stuff?
Speaker 4: So yes, you can, sus give her our email address, Johanna,
Speaker 4: we'll give you our email three all three seven one
Speaker 4: three talk seven one three eight two five five Okay,
Speaker 4: the uh listen. I looked up this illness fit da
Speaker 4: into the next one. This illness is not caused absolutely
Speaker 4: not caused by mold. In fact, no one knows what
Speaker 4: causes it. It's generalized pain. Other people have called it chronic
Speaker 4: fatigue syndrome. Other people have called it uh there. There
Speaker 4: are also many names for this meaning they don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on, but people are complete symptoms. She says,
Speaker 4: now she has cancer in her bones, can't forths and
Speaker 4: stage cancer in her breast, and she wants to send
Speaker 4: us some evidence. Okay, and she's not nuts, right, But Mark,
Speaker 4: hold on, what is it today? I mean, this is
Speaker 4: the second call.
Speaker 5: Just when you thought it couldn't get any crazier. Let's
Speaker 5: go to the next call, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Drew, Mark meant that in good fun, Drew. Now,
Speaker 4: for those listening, Drew has called me over the years,
Speaker 4: and his latest thing is this. It's just the bottom line,
Speaker 4: he's running out of money. He's seventy eight years old,
Speaker 4: he's or seventy seven. He's running out of money. He
Speaker 4: doesn't know what to do. He put a GoFundMe up there.
Speaker 4: I told him I would tell people about it, but
Speaker 4: I wanted him to take off that crazy description and
Speaker 4: let me put one up for him. So I sent
Speaker 4: him one by email, and I'm going to see if
Speaker 4: it's up there anyway. Here's the bottom line. He thinks
Speaker 4: it's going to help him, and I told him I
Speaker 4: feel bad for him, but I don't think. I don't
Speaker 4: think it's gonna help. I wanted to help at least
Speaker 4: put the description up there and make it a better
Speaker 4: sell than it was before. But the bottom line is
Speaker 4: it's it's sad because he's running out of money, and
Speaker 4: his last hope is that he gets he raises twenty grand.
Speaker 4: But even if he raised twenty grand, that's not going
Speaker 4: to last him a long time. Now. He did have
Speaker 4: seventy five dollars raised, and now I see, oh, somebody
Speaker 4: else added five to it. Did the earlier seventy five
Speaker 4: go away? Or is that still there?
Speaker 15: Tom?
Speaker 16: The librarian put your lovely profile on thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I see it, and.
Speaker 4: It is way better. It is way better. I think
Speaker 4: you're foolish to put your address in there, your actual
Speaker 4: apartment number, the actual street in New Jersey. I don't
Speaker 4: know why you're doing that.
Speaker 11: Well, Tom, nobody's going to rob him, he has nothing
Speaker 11: to rob.
Speaker 4: Good point, But why would you put your address up there, Drew?
Speaker 16: Because I don't I've never had a computer. I didn't
Speaker 16: know for other people like me who might just mail
Speaker 16: some help.
Speaker 4: Oh, I see, I see all right.
Speaker 16: I know the librarian time ran out.
Speaker 4: Put your What happened to the seventy five dollars that
Speaker 4: was there?
Speaker 16: I don't know that was going to be my question?
Speaker 16: How do I? I think I've got to do something
Speaker 16: else at the GoFundMe site I've got to apply for
Speaker 16: so they know where to send it to my bankers.
Speaker 16: So that's what the librarian said, but he didn't have
Speaker 16: time to continue.
Speaker 4: Listen, I I don't understand. You had seventy five up there,
Speaker 4: and now you have another five bucks, so that would
Speaker 4: have been a total of eighty. But the seventy five
Speaker 4: I don't see there anymore. And here's the thing.
Speaker 16: I have no idea room.
Speaker 4: I hope you take I hope you take my suggestion.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to spend a lot of time on
Speaker 4: this call. This is not going to get This is
Speaker 4: not going to solve your problem. Okay, okay, I promise you.
Speaker 4: You can't depend on gofund me when you're running out
Speaker 4: of money and you're going to be out by the
Speaker 4: middle of December or the end of December. You're going
Speaker 4: to be homeless if you don't do something. You have sociality,
Speaker 4: you have social security, you have Medicare, you have a pension.
Speaker 4: You need to find a cheaper place to live, if
Speaker 4: even only a room. You need to start taking action.
Speaker 4: Do not wait for GoFundMe to raise twenty grand. You're
Speaker 4: not going to I don't see it happening.
Speaker 16: Do you know how they can put the money into
Speaker 16: the goalfundme account. I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 16: The librarian noticed that there's three people who said they
Speaker 16: sent donations, two of them you mentioned until library was
Speaker 16: getting near closing.
Speaker 5: Hey, Drew, are you give him that user name and
Speaker 5: password to anybody? And I mean anybody? He gave it
Speaker 5: to me, Oh there you go. No, Seriously, he gave
Speaker 5: it to me. But I won't lot. You can't log on.
Speaker 5: The only way you can log on is with a
Speaker 5: You've probably got to set it up tom so he can.
Speaker 5: You probably got to help him cash it out. That's
Speaker 5: the bottom line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 4: get involved. I really don't want to get involved. They
Speaker 4: asked me for a They need to text you confirmation.
Speaker 4: He didn't have a text number. I don't even know
Speaker 4: how their librarian is logging on. I have no idea,
Speaker 4: but I know this. I don't want to be blamed
Speaker 4: for missing money. I don't want to get involved. I
Speaker 4: will not get involved. I will not get involved. If
Speaker 4: you want to know, I don't think Mark should either. Actually,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, it's truly, it's truly a problem, okay,
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's going to help him. And
Speaker 4: I think he is going to be He's going to
Speaker 4: be truly troubled and homeless, and I hate to see
Speaker 4: that after knowing him for thirty years on the air.
Speaker 4: It's sad. It's sad, Drew, this is not going to
Speaker 4: help you. You need a cheaper place to live, you
Speaker 4: need a unit. You just need to make some changes.
Speaker 4: Even it even if you go to a he.
Speaker 5: Makes enough a month to where if he moved, Drew,
Speaker 5: if you moved to somewhere you could afford how much
Speaker 5: do you get a month to everything?
Speaker 4: Pension, social Security? How much too grande? Seventeen hundred?
Speaker 5: Oh right, so Mississippi. I mean you got to move
Speaker 5: somewhere where you can afford something. You're not going to
Speaker 5: get anything in Jersey man Or Okay, Well, I don't
Speaker 5: know what else to tell you.
Speaker 4: Then, Drew, my guy says, here's what he says he
Speaker 4: has to say for the trial. Do you know what
Speaker 4: he's talking about? Another hopeless setting me, another hopeless case,
Speaker 4: Another hopeless case. His own attorney indicated it would take
Speaker 4: three to five years and probably would not get anything.
Speaker 4: His own attorney is telling him he has a bad case.
Speaker 4: Yet he thinks because he was walking down the street
Speaker 4: and a tailgate of an suv fell on top of
Speaker 4: his head or was coming down and he walked underneath it,
Speaker 4: he thinks his entire life will be made whole by
Speaker 4: this settlement. Drew, I can no longer help you. Today
Speaker 4: seems to be a day of delusional people. I feel badly,
Speaker 4: I really do, and I'm not kidding, by the way,
Speaker 4: I'm not using them as pawns to laugh at. We've
Speaker 4: had three calls in a row where people are totally
Speaker 4: delusional and they're calling me for help. I want to
Speaker 4: help people, I swear to God, but you're But I
Speaker 4: have to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Drew.
Speaker 4: You're not good that lawsuit. You don't have to stay
Speaker 4: in Jersey for the lawsuit, and the lawsuit isn't going
Speaker 4: to pay off. Remind I'm telling it will not pay off,
Speaker 4: and if it does, it will be such a menial
Speaker 4: amount it will it will eat up everything You've gone
Speaker 4: into debt for waiting for it. To wait there for
Speaker 4: some kind of a lawsuit settlement is crazy. You need
Speaker 4: to get out of there. I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 4: When you call at the end of December and you're
Speaker 4: homeless and you're living in your car if you even
Speaker 4: have your car anymore, I can't help you. I am
Speaker 4: telling you now that the go fund me will not
Speaker 4: sustain you, and I'm telling you the lawsuit will not
Speaker 4: come through. Please listen to me, Drew, you are delusional.
Speaker 4: You need to find another place to live, even if
Speaker 4: you rent a room somewhere in Jersey, or you go somewhere,
Speaker 4: as Mark suggested, where you can afford to live. You
Speaker 4: cannot live like you're living.
Speaker 11: You can not.
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Speaker 4: Tom Martino here three O three seven one three talk
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Speaker 4: them will be the best voicemail ever. We're gonna give
Speaker 4: you a preview. The next one will be the best
Speaker 4: contract ever. And then the best business name. Mark doesn't
Speaker 4: even remember that one, does he the best wait ouch Dental?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 5: Oops construction, Oh that's right, Oops Construction that's as real
Speaker 5: as it gets.
Speaker 4: It was literally called Oops Construction now. And the best
Speaker 4: contract was the Lunic contract, but we'll get into that later.
Speaker 5: And then and then the drunk truck driver that always
Speaker 5: left beautiful voicemails for first to get.
Speaker 4: I want to get to Lilian first. She needs help, Lillian.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Lilian?
Speaker 4: Is she there? Lillian? I want to help her?
Speaker 5: Okay, she's just not there, damn it. She probably heard
Speaker 5: how you took care of Drew and hung up.
Speaker 4: Let's go to uh Deputy Bow. Deputy Bow, by the way,
Speaker 4: who came over to my house late Saturday night. What
Speaker 4: a nice man? Do you know why he came over
Speaker 4: to my house?
Speaker 7: I I don't even want to guess to be He
Speaker 7: used to be in the HVAC business and he had
Speaker 7: a professional CEO sniffer and a gas sniffer.
Speaker 4: And Garrett wouldn't answer my phone calls, and neither would
Speaker 4: George over it. Fix it? No, just kidding? What did
Speaker 4: you smell gas? No, here's what happened. My daughter, you know,
Speaker 4: stays here. I don't stay here. My daughter stays here.
Speaker 4: And she called me and said, Dad, the CEO detector
Speaker 4: was chirping. Oh, I said, do me a favor, hunt,
Speaker 4: I said, check. Yeah, she changed batter. She goes, it's
Speaker 4: still chirping. I said, okay, go to my bedroom and
Speaker 4: I have a portable one in there downstairs, and the
Speaker 4: master bring that upstairs and put it next to yours.
Speaker 4: And she did, and I said, now do the test
Speaker 4: function to make sure that one's working. And then it's
Speaker 4: that one started beeping saying evacuate and it said four
Speaker 4: hundred parts familion. Except that was the test saying that
Speaker 4: that went off after ten seconds. But she didn't know that,
Speaker 4: so she said, Dad, that one went off too, And
Speaker 4: I went, ah, crap, So I call up I call
Speaker 4: up Boh because I knew seriously. I tried calling Garrett
Speaker 4: and George and they called me. George learn not to
Speaker 4: answer no no. I just wanted to ask him a question.
Speaker 4: I didn't want him to come over anyway. So Bo
Speaker 4: came over with a sniffer and I said, Bo, I
Speaker 4: think I found something out. I asked my girlfriend why
Speaker 4: this was happening. I know why. My girlfriend is AI.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mark, Well, we just had one hit its
Speaker 4: end of life cycle. That's exactly what it was. I
Speaker 4: didn't realize there's some kind of an element in there,
Speaker 4: a tiny radioactive element that goes bad. Here's the problem.
Speaker 5: If that one just went out, I promise you the
Speaker 5: other ones are to come now.
Speaker 4: No, by the way, this is not my smoke. We're
Speaker 4: not talking smoke detectors.
Speaker 5: We're talking Yeah, I see, I just went through it, yep, coo. Okay,
Speaker 5: So my COEO detector was what you was that house built? No, no,
Speaker 5: it was a ten year old detector. Bo already looked
Speaker 5: at his daughter looked it up.
Speaker 4: He brought his lovely daughter with him, and Grace looked
Speaker 4: it up and said, this is ten years old. And
Speaker 4: I went and it supposed that chirps after seven years,
Speaker 4: and it didn't. It might have been. You can't get
Speaker 4: rid of it, no matter what you can know for safety,
Speaker 4: because it doesn't work anymore. Yeah, right, I know. So
Speaker 4: Bo got me two new ones.
Speaker 11: I came over because I was concerned when you said
Speaker 11: two of the COEO detectors were going off upstairs and downs.
Speaker 11: So I genuinely where you thought you had a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did too. And then when just before he
Speaker 4: got here, I realized that she had not the second one.
Speaker 4: She was testing when it went off because it wasn't
Speaker 4: showing any readings. The second one shows active readings. By
Speaker 4: the way, it's a constant readout. So in any case,
Speaker 4: this is a good consumer tip. If you have a
Speaker 4: CEO detector, Now does that happen? That doesn't happen with
Speaker 4: smoke detectors, does it? Garrett? Do you know or do
Speaker 4: you know? Bo do smoke ditables? They will chirp yeah,
Speaker 4: but do they have an end of life? Do they
Speaker 4: have a lifespan?
Speaker 11: I think so they have an element too, just like
Speaker 11: a CEO is.
Speaker 5: The one that wouldn't stop on ours. And how I
Speaker 5: learned all this about I don't even know, even within
Speaker 5: the last month. Does both And it's all tied to
Speaker 5: our alarm system, which makes it even crazy.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: But but there is there is something about and don't
Speaker 4: play it. Don't play it dragon, But that sound Okay,
Speaker 4: telling him not to do it is like inviting it.
Speaker 4: But it's the worst sound and I hate do that
Speaker 4: to him. One day, Yeah, but it was him. Here's
Speaker 4: what here's the way it is. Though it's a cruel joke.
Speaker 4: They make it so it sounds like it's coming from
Speaker 4: every one of them, and.
Speaker 5: It's only can't tell if you're on the main floor.
Speaker 5: You can't tell if it's downstairs upstairs.
Speaker 4: And then when getting so I have to go to
Speaker 4: each one and look up at it to see and
Speaker 4: wait a freaking sixty seconds. You're right, You're right. God,
Speaker 4: I hate that. Stop and dragon. We have more coming
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Speaker 4: two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter, Bill,
Speaker 4: Your turn, Go ahead, Bill, Welcome to the show. What's happening?
Speaker 6: He speaking of smoke detectors.
Speaker 16: I got one that came with a ten year battery.
Speaker 4: By the way, that's what I replace mine with. By
Speaker 4: the way, there's no such thing as a smoke detector.
Speaker 4: It's a smoke detector making in your world a smoke detecta. Okay,
Speaker 4: So what kind of tenuear battery? Mark? I never heard
Speaker 4: of those. So the new ones we just that one
Speaker 4: I was talking about. So it does both.
Speaker 5: It does the coo and then it does the smoke,
Speaker 5: and for whatever reason, you cannot replace the battery. It
Speaker 5: looks identical, but they literally like clipped in glue the
Speaker 5: cover so you can't easily open it to replace the battery.
Speaker 5: And whatever battery they put in there is good for
Speaker 5: ten years. Then the unit is junk.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not so bad that these things are,
Speaker 4: I mean expensive, they're not, and I'd like to buy one,
Speaker 4: but you can't. You got to find the same footprint
Speaker 4: as the one in your ceiling. I mean, even if
Speaker 4: I take the whole thing off.
Speaker 5: No, no, they're easy to basically that part you twist
Speaker 5: it into, they're all the same. That part might be different,
Speaker 5: follow what I'm saying, But the bolt pattern on the
Speaker 5: two that hold that part into the ceiling are pretty
Speaker 5: much all the same.
Speaker 4: No, No, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but what I'm thinking about, though, what I'm thinking about,
Speaker 4: if you put a whole new one, I get it.
Speaker 4: Like when I did a thermostat and I switched those
Speaker 4: digital thermostats. The other one one had a different footprint,
Speaker 4: so now I have to sand and paint. Yeah, it sucks,
Speaker 4: but anyway, it's probably worth getting those better ones. So
Speaker 4: the elements in those must last because the element in
Speaker 4: the carbon monoxide detector said you needed to change it
Speaker 4: is a carbon monoxide, is it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, two yeah yeah yeah yeah. It said
Speaker 4: you had to change them every seven years. But in
Speaker 4: any case, thank you for that. You can't you got
Speaker 4: a tenure? Yeah, Bill, just just put Bill on hold
Speaker 4: and put him put him out to pasture right now.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five. Bill, We got you, bro, We got your message.
Speaker 4: We can hear you, sus We'll talk to you. So listen.
Speaker 4: I want to ask some advice. Is it better for
Speaker 4: me to just be honest with people when it comes
Speaker 4: to not care delusions? No, I'm serious, I know, and
Speaker 4: I mean should we be honest or should we just
Speaker 4: say we can't help you. I'm sorry, Maybe you should
Speaker 4: try such and such. I the reason I feel compelled
Speaker 4: to be honest with them, and I think it truly.
Speaker 4: Although you can't necessarily doc, you can back me up
Speaker 4: on this even though you were in you know, obg
Speaker 4: y N. You're in the medical profession. You can't truly
Speaker 4: reason with someone who is mentally ill. I mean you can't.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, that's why they're mentally ill.
Speaker 4: It'sch a definition, but is it? But but what do psychiatrists?
Speaker 4: What do psychiatrists do?
Speaker 11: I think psychiatrists try to point out the reality of
Speaker 11: it and get them by I mean, I'm a psychiatrist,
Speaker 11: but I assume they get them to eventually see the
Speaker 11: reality of what of what the delusion is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but some people, like the folks in my opinion
Speaker 5: we talked to today, some of them might need some
Speaker 5: medication in order to get to that point.
Speaker 11: Absolutely. I think, you know, medication and interventional psychiatry certainly
Speaker 11: works for these people.
Speaker 5: You dealt with someone in your life that was, you know,
Speaker 5: that was supposed to be on medication, and when they were,
Speaker 5: I mean they were a completely different person, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 5: My brother Yeah, yeah, I mean completely different. No, you're
Speaker 5: his Your brothers passed away, right right? And so I mean, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to say I was saying. When he
Speaker 5: was on his meds, I mean we just would never
Speaker 5: get messages. I mean literally, he was normal. You would
Speaker 5: talk to him and everything was fine, but the second
Speaker 5: he was off, he would leave. I mean crazy voicemails
Speaker 5: that were crazy.
Speaker 4: I know it. And there's just nothing. And here's the
Speaker 4: crazy thing about being crazy. And I hate using the
Speaker 4: word crazy, but if you have, if you had this
Speaker 4: bipolar thing, and it seemed that lithium helped him so
Speaker 4: fricking much, why doesn't he stay on it? Because as
Speaker 4: they're coming off it, they like that feeling of being like,
Speaker 4: they feel like they're somebody. I think they feel like
Speaker 4: they're normal because that's how they are. Mark one time.
Speaker 4: This is the god's honest, true story, and I won't
Speaker 4: give his name. He was an intern of mine and
Speaker 4: I suddenly realized that he was bipolar. And the reason
Speaker 4: is because of my family's history with my mom and
Speaker 4: my brother. And when I heard him talking, I thought,
Speaker 4: this sounds like a manic episode to me. And so
Speaker 4: his mom told me, yes, he's on lithium. So he
Speaker 4: started taking medications. And his mother must have told him
Speaker 4: and he started acting, Okay, we're at channel four and
Speaker 4: he was an intern of mine. Then he stopped in
Speaker 4: turning and he was I mean, I hadn't seen him
Speaker 4: in a few months. I turn on channel nine and
Speaker 4: they were talking about training camp, the Broncos training camp,
Speaker 4: and they said a walk on came on. He pulls
Speaker 4: up in a car no way and gets this no no,
Speaker 4: and he tells everybody he's going to be a walk
Speaker 4: on for a quarterback and he's going to replace Elwa.
Speaker 4: And they interviewed him and they were kind of making
Speaker 4: fun of him. I don't think they realized that he
Speaker 4: was mentally ill, but they said, man, you know, uh
Speaker 4: fans have turned out and even people who aspire to
Speaker 4: be a Bronco. And they interviewed. He was on he
Speaker 4: was I think it was it was Channel nine and
Speaker 4: I saw him and I thought, oh my god, and
Speaker 4: I called his mom and they had of course they
Speaker 4: saw it too, but he was up there wanting to
Speaker 4: be a quarterback for.
Speaker 5: That and they thought he was kind of like doing
Speaker 5: it in jest, you know. And I'm being serious when
Speaker 5: I say this Trump derangement syndrome. I've never seen anything
Speaker 5: like it. I've got relatives man, that I swear, and
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding at all. He could cure cancer or
Speaker 5: save their life or their child's life or something and
Speaker 5: it wouldn't matter is how much they hate him. I
Speaker 5: have never seen a man so hated for almost zero reason.
Speaker 5: I heard did you listen to Trump? And the who'd
Speaker 5: he just do it with Rogan. Did you happen to
Speaker 5: listen to that?
Speaker 4: No, you know what they brought up.
Speaker 5: Listen to this man right before he ran, in fact,
Speaker 5: after he came down that escalator in twenty fifteen. Do
Speaker 5: you realize he was on the view he hugged and
Speaker 5: kissed with open or op Yeah, with Oprah his way
Speaker 5: and his.
Speaker 4: Show, his show the was it the intern? That was
Speaker 4: a hit? Shot woo? But Whoope? Goldberg loved this guy,
Speaker 4: Joy Bayer loved this guy. They all loved them. But
Speaker 4: then when he won, it's like the media turned on
Speaker 4: him or when he became when he became you know,
Speaker 4: when it became real, No, when it became real that
Speaker 4: he was actually had a shot at going for president.
Speaker 4: But it's it's so amazing the derangement that got created.
Speaker 4: And I do I would love to.
Speaker 5: Have a psychiologist, a psychologist on or a psychiatrist for
Speaker 5: that matter, and really explain, not just in the case
Speaker 5: of Trump, but how how can so many people that
Speaker 5: never met somebody hate somebody that much?
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Now now people speaking of which we have
Speaker 4: some text to the I'm not going to go through it,
Speaker 4: and they're saying that that they heard Trump's spewing more
Speaker 4: hate than anyone, and that he kind of I don't know,
Speaker 4: I you know, that's the.
Speaker 5: Thing that Madison Square Garden was the official knockout. If
Speaker 5: you ask me, he knocked that out of the park Man.
Speaker 4: It was just it was great, and it says here,
Speaker 4: you know, Mark was saying, why do you say you
Speaker 4: don't want to talk politics when Mark sure does talk
Speaker 4: about politics? First of all, Mark's a free person can
Speaker 4: talk about anything he wants. Yeah. And the second thing is,
Speaker 4: it's not that I don't want to talk about politics.
Speaker 4: What I mean is this, This is what I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't like to I'm not Mark might be I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to convince people who to vote for what,
Speaker 4: but what to vote for or what kinds of principles?
Speaker 4: I do talk about issues. Now, Mark does talk about politics,
Speaker 4: and it goes on to say, does he really think
Speaker 4: that people put out a pool that Hillary would win
Speaker 4: by ninety one percent to discourage Trump voters? That's stupid.
Speaker 4: I mean, did you say something like that, Mark about yeah? So,
Speaker 4: oh a poll? I'm sorry, he meant a poll. Do
Speaker 4: you think people put out a poll on that.
Speaker 5: You're getting things he's going to go things mixed up?
Speaker 5: What did you say the front of the I think
Speaker 5: it was a New York Post or New York Times
Speaker 5: front of New York Times November fifth or eighth, two
Speaker 5: thy sixteen. If you google it, it pops right up.
Speaker 5: They put Hillary as Oh that I might. Yeah, there's
Speaker 5: nothing I'm making up here.
Speaker 4: Oh it was a headline. You're absolutely right, I remember
Speaker 4: that ninety chance to win. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what I made the comment is a lot of
Speaker 5: times he'll do stuff like that so the other side
Speaker 5: doesn't get out and vote. I mean, it's just a
Speaker 5: dirty trick and everybody knows that. There's what else can
Speaker 5: I say it is?
Speaker 4: I will say this, The rallies are truly, truly remarkable
Speaker 4: to me. It's it's almost like are they going out
Speaker 4: because they love them or are they going out just
Speaker 4: to see the phenomenon. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean no, there, let me tell you, when you
Speaker 5: show up to one of those, you're you're in a
Speaker 5: group of people. The one I went to here in
Speaker 5: Denver is at least forty thousand, somewhere between thirty and fifty,
Speaker 5: and people can argue whatever. It had a mile long
Speaker 5: coming out of the Gay Lord twelve thousand, staging twelve thousand.
Speaker 5: Inside it was forty to fifty and we all somewhat
Speaker 5: think alike. Now, some like that or hate it somewhat.
Speaker 5: Not everybody agrees on everything by anything, but we all
Speaker 5: are sick and tired of what's going on in the country.
Speaker 5: More than anything, we're sick and tired of being lied to.
Speaker 5: I guess that's probably the biggest thing. I mean, how
Speaker 5: Kamala can sit there and go if he gets into office,
Speaker 5: he's going to use the Department of Justice to go
Speaker 5: after his enemies. My god, that's all they've done to him.
Speaker 5: They literally have done that to him in the last
Speaker 5: two years. It's amazing. Okay, Now what I want to
Speaker 5: say is real quick. We had one text here. Oh,
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find it that.
Speaker 4: Oh they said that Madison Square Garden purposely closed concessions
Speaker 4: until the speech started. Then they opened them up on
Speaker 4: purpose to see to show people flowing out of the garden.
Speaker 4: They were actually going to the concession stand.
Speaker 5: I can only say one thing about that. I have
Speaker 5: no idea if that's true or not. I haven't even
Speaker 5: seen that story. But I'll say this, that man that
Speaker 5: owns Madison Square Garden in New York City offered him
Speaker 5: a ton of money to move that over towards the
Speaker 5: river years ago, and he held fast and made the
Speaker 5: best decision ever. He's a businessman, is what I'm getting to.
Speaker 5: So if you don't think that guy's selling water and
Speaker 5: coke when he can, you're crazy. The man likes making money.
Speaker 4: All right, We have more coming up on the Troubleshooter show. Hi,
Speaker 4: Tom Martino, your Troubleshooter. Tom's got to comment on the show.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, or comment on something? Go ahead, Tom, what's happening?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yes, I would just like to say, how does Mark
Speaker 15: feel about the comment the man made Puerto Ricans?
Speaker 4: What man? Tom? Comedian? That comedian?
Speaker 15: Sir, Well, it's comedian, but.
Speaker 4: Trump, who cares? You know what?
Speaker 5: The same way I feel about when I watch Eddie
Speaker 5: Murphy or Chris Rock or any other comedian when they
Speaker 5: make fun of all kinds of things.
Speaker 17: Sir, h keep going. I mean, go ahead, sir, he's
Speaker 17: a comedian.
Speaker 4: There was that.
Speaker 5: Oh well, anyway, I find it funny. Who's Who's probably
Speaker 5: I don't even know what to say. Who was the
Speaker 5: guy that they attempted to cancel for making fun of
Speaker 5: transgender He's probably the biggest comedian on the planet. I mean,
Speaker 5: I I don't hear any of these people going after Chappelle,
Speaker 5: But because this guy's at a Trump rally, it's an issue.
Speaker 5: You freaking your freaking brain
Speaker 6: For me.