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Tim Kelly is back. How are you doing, Tim?
Speaker 2: Not too bad yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just struggling to find something to talk
about tonight.
Speaker 2: Baseball season's coming up. How's spring training going?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably out of my It's out of the
realm of anything that I'm looking at at this point
in time.
Speaker 2: But when I was a kid, I used to get
so excited about baseball season up coming.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I was able to go
down and see a spring training game in Fort Lauderdale.
It was, uh, you know, I was like excited and yeah,
generally I grew up at Yankee Stadium and I saw amazing,
you know, games that actually counted. It's kind of crazy
that I was like excited for that.
Speaker 2: Were you in the Were you in the stands? Game six,
nineteen seventy seven?
Speaker 1: I was not.
Speaker 2: I remember watching it on television. Yeah, single performance in
baseball in World Series history.
Speaker 1: It was was kind of incredible.
Speaker 2: Three pitches through home runs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up I was a Cincinnati Reds fan,
so when I was in my youth, it was a
big Red Machines. It was a good time to be
a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, Baseball hadn't quite fallen apart. It was
almost that it was almost a free agency, hadn't destroyed
it yet. And I just remember, you know, just having
such a strong interest in it and mattering it mattering
so much to me. But again, that's proper. When you're
a kid, you should be able to indulge in those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's people who what what is my buddy Clay
Martin say, He's like, you're going to a game with
another man's name on your back? What's wrong without you? Yes?
All right, Tim, so something something.
Speaker 2: Your wife is going to the game with the name
on her.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: You know what else, We have no way to express
our agency or her strength. You have to do it
vicariously through it other people's athleticism.
Speaker 1: Or other people's heroism in the face in the face
of a forty seven year enemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know we were been at war for
forty seven years. I got lost in all the.
Speaker 1: That was news to me until I heard a boomer
say it at a gun show and then I was like, oh, yeah,
Fox News. I don't know if I told you. I
probably told you this one of the one of the
previous times you were on or maybe when I was
on your show. But there's a whole Reddit page dedicated
to people who go to their parents' house and when
the TV gets turned on, the Fox News hiron has
been the Fox News logo from the Chiron has been
burned into their the the screen and they take pictures
of it and post it on a Reddit. So when
you hear a boomer say glad we attacked Iran. They've
been at war with us for forty seven years, it's like, yeah,
I'm you didn't come up with that on your own.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like we have to fight him there instead
of here, right, remember that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah? And Iran. Iran's responsible for, you know,
blowing up the Beirut barracks and.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, nineteen eighty three, Okay, can I Can
I bring up the King David Hotel bombing? So for going,
we're gonna scour history for rational stations.
Speaker 1: Well, if we're gonna talk, if we're going to talk
about Iran, can I bring up nineteen fifty three? Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh, I's ancient history, but nineteen forty three.
Speaker 1: Isn't We just get snarky here? And we probably do
this for hours but get snarky for hours. But yeah,
So what I've been told and what I'm choosing to
believe because I've been told this, is that well, I mean,
Israel was going to go, so you know, we had
to go because as soon as Israel went, they just
started attacking us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, secondar State Mark or Rubio said that right, pretty much, Yeah,
that they were they were going to attack. We could
keep them from attacking. Once they attacked, they'd attack us.
So we had attacked first, so it's it was a
it was a defensive act.
Speaker 1: They declared war on us. I actually heard that, I
actually have heard that that Iran started this, that this
action that's lasted for two weeks now. Iran started it,
even though according to the President of the United States,
he decimated their nuclear program. But apparently according to Lindsey Graham,
they were back up to sixty percent enrichment, which means
they can build a nuclear bomb. Literally what he said.
Speaker 2: Trump's defense when he said decimated, he literally meant decimated,
meaning he only killed ten percent of their nuclear facility.
Speaker 1: That's getting literal.
Speaker 2: You know, Trump's very precise in as language. So they
have to be careful.
Speaker 1: You have to take them literally, but you know, we
wouldn't need the propaganda. I mean, it's not good propaganda
because it it's not good propaganda because it won't work
on everyone. But it is good propaganda if it will
work on your boomer parents who are just going to
eat it up. And you know, they seem to be
the ones who have you know, the lobbying and money
and you know, the the mobile homes and things like that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's again, they're they've been kind of programmed
into thinking this way through all these years of propaganda
and narratives and Iran being the you know, the evil guy,
and someone said this was this was settling scores. I
was told this was settling Scores said for what? And
I guess the hostage crisis. Come on, okay, the baby bombing, Well,
that's kind of indirect regae. Mister Reagan was told not
to send the Marines in. There's getting involved in the
civil war. And then I think we shelled them after
the fact that the Jersey shelled positions and left after
and then then there was that whole you know, the
eight nine year war the United States subsidized and fomented
between Iraq and Iran. Wasn't that considered payback we shot
down that airline and nineteen eighty eight, you know what
about all the sanctions, this frozen assets, and you know
these things, and you know the stucks nets and all
the scientists and generals and politicians and officials that have
been assassinated over the years courtesy Israel and CIA. So
I mean, what are you talking about again? It's this
forty seven year war which you're talking There's been a
forty seven year diplomatic you know, basically the Unitsittys have
dipped like relations with Iran for forty seven years, primarily
because in the eighties the New yor Cons took over
US foreign policy. So really it's because of our relations
or the newyor Cons and the United States, and of
course they're tied into the Jewish lobby an APAC and
that's why we can't have relations, normal relations with Iran,
trading relations and have peace in that area, which you
think you'd want to give in the sense how sensitive
that area is, you know, And now they've started a
conflict was actually may indeed a result in US having
to leave, which friends upset everything, the petro dollar, US economy,
dollar reserve, currency and these things, you know, which I've
argued is actually is a curse. So in a way,
Donald Trump might be bringing back the very thing that
we wanted him to bring about, but not intentionally, which
is the end of the American empire and retrenchment. It
just might not be on our own terms, which can
be very painful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was something I mentioned this weekend hanging out
with some friends, and then my live stream today was
I don't expect not because someone might not want to,
but because they just don't have the ability to rebuild
all of these bases that are being destroyed. And I
mean I actually read a substack last week. It said
to the United States has not lost one piece of
equipment in this very smart people. And so all these
bases are being destroyed and I don't expect them to
be rebuilt. So, as you said, not because not because
of forty chess, but because of rank and competence. It
looks like we're not going to We're no longer going
to have bases in the Middle East. And you know,
this may be the one thing that gives rise to
the move towards China. Now they want you to believe
that this is this whole. You know, some people want
you to believe this Holy Ran thing is about China,
just like the Venezuela thing was about China. Apparently every stupid,
retarded thing is about China. But at least in Venezuela,
I don't think anybody anybody got killed, and anybody who
believes a tanker just fell out of the sky and
you have to ask questions, well, when was the last
time one of those tankers fell out of the sky. No,
he got shot down, But they don't want to admit
that the three fighters that they lost over Kowait they
were shot down. Oh it was friendly fire, was it? Yeah?
This is the whole flooding of the zone of misinformation.
Is the new propaganda?
Speaker 2: Is bb dead?
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's another one of those things
that they want people to run with, you know, they
want people to be like Bibi's dead. You know, look
this video he has six fingers and his teeth are
disappearing here and everything. And you know, while that does
look very interesting, it could be a video where they
actually of him that they actually added into. Now apparently
that video nothing is said in that video that leads
you to believe that it was shot recently. But you know,
I mean if he is dead, I mean, we're not
going to know for they're going to hide that as
long as they can. If Ben Goovieer is dead, they're
going to hide that for as long as if they
had a Masaude. If all these people are dead, they're
going to hide it for as long as they can.
They they're doing as much as they can to also
not let any reports come out of Iran, so they
just get to make things up.
Speaker 2: Did you see it where he's in the cafe ordering
coffee and the he's moving his coffee and the coffee
is not moving in the cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody somebody did a did a photo shop on
that and the hand that didn't have the coffee. They
may then turned the hand into a foot I posted
it in a friend chat and said, haters are going
to say this is fake.
Speaker 2: But the whole fiasco proves is that the that is
that Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, the US is in the
control with farm pols, which we've long suspected, but it's
kind of demonstrates it because it's so contrary to the
interest of the region that the GCC members in the
United States and Europe ultimately it's not probably contrary to
the interest of visual but they don't know it because
I don't think Israel might not be around in a
couple of years because of this. Again, why start the war?
Could because they were looking at the numbers, the polling,
and this was the time. The longer they waited, less
support they're going to have because support for Israel and
just broad support for basically for Jews in the West
is rapidly declining. Is people are getting tired of it
and sort of, you know, the scales will fall of
people's eyes. It was at fifty four percent of I
think people the under age of thirty in the UK
see Jews as a problem. I saw that poll and
there's similar poll in the United States with youth.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it's interesting. The UK numbers are interesting considering
you know, how good a job they've done to import
inbred pakistanis in there to rape their women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of them don't like Israel while
they're doing It's yeah, it's again the it it appears
and if you look at the events that the whole
and I was hoping this wasn't the case, but I
strongly suspected it was that Trump is being permitted back
in the power to carry out this agenda, and it
appears that's that was the case. Like you know, Trump
came into office for the second time, the second iteration
of Mega in twenty twenty five. He had a lot
of momentum, but also a lot of opposition. He could
have used that political capital deal with domestic problems, which
are really the country's real problems, you know, deal with immigration,
which actually is an existential crisis to the country or
a threat to the country, rather not this foreign policy
stuff which is just it's just more of global you know,
global only as they used to call it. For his
all for Israel, and so you know, the wheels started
to come off. I guess there was a spring of
twenty twenty five and they started to cover up the
Epstein stuff again which is related to Israel. And then
there was the Twelve Day War. Again He's going to
war for Israel, another war that Israel starts. And again
this happened again in in February. I guess it's February
twenty eighth. And so at what point, you know, it's
pretty darn obvious now anyone can deny it. Now they
got to somehow assume you hear this case that someone
there's a moral argument have to defend Israel. Why what
interested in the United States to get involved in this war?
To start this war? Actually, now we're told that we
had no choice because because Israel will do it anyway. Well,
if Israel is a client state, they can be told
to go pound sand or we're going to cut you off.
Don't do it. But for various reasons, they are the
White House and the Congress. They don't have the independence
or the they don't represent the American people for whatever reason.
We can, I guess we can speculate why that is.
There's Nancy Pelosi that said, you know, Washington could burn
to the ground and our support for Israel would still
be just as strong. Although don't know what it would
matter at that point, but it's quite a sentiment to
express if you ask me so, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if Washington burns to the ground, how
does Israel even survive? Yeah, I mean they don't. These
are a people who don't serve. They can only survive
if they're parasitizing another culture or another people. Yeah, so
I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't get how the
destruction of the United States helps them at all. But
then again, I mean, there is a history of them
getting to the point where the hubris becomes so strong
that they forget that they they think that they can
actually survive on their own. And I forget who it
was who it was who said it, but they said
that if if you if the Jews did finally kill
all the Gentiles, like you know, so much of so
much of international jury would like to do, they just
end up killing themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, turn on themselves. Well that's if you get you know,
the Epstein files and Jeff Epsy's talking about how to
use make money, you know, through finance and usury and
all types of trickery and all that, and whereas they
go in they have to actually work for it, the
real they could call it the real world. Well, in
order to manipulate financial things, you have to have a
base economy where there's real productivity going along. Otherwise you're
just paying playing with funny money. The money has to
be able to acquire real assets. And so they go
too far and you kill the host, and what do
you have. And it just seems that now they got
amportant that there's so many years that haven't been checked
or criticized. Uh, they think they can just get away
with anything. You know, they haven't really suffered any consequences
for what they did at Gaza. Yeah, other than you know,
I guess, you know, I guess in polling they took
a big hit. But I don't know if they care
about that. They don't think they should care. They should
have to care about it. They might be wrong about
that though.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're these are people who can't there's
no way. If you have a closed society and your
society is based upon victimhood, then you can never admit
you've done anything wrong. As soon as you admit you've
done something wrong, you're no longer the victim. Now you're
the perpetrator. And people within that society can start to
question whether they want to be a part of this
closed society, and then the society weakens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a position to be able to manipulate, and
being a victim is how you manipulate people in the West,
you play the victim while you actually hold a strong hand. Ultimately,
it's a sign of vulnerability because if they're a sort
of an unpopular minority for various reasons, so they have
to engage in this sort of manipulation of narrative hutspara,
if you will, but also be able to control the
political language or discourse, and they do that through guilt,
the Holocaust, the narrative of Jewish oppression, never addressing the
crimes that the Jewish people are guilty of, the various
massacres and schemes and things they do that make them
unpopular to begin with, or seeing it right now, they're not,
you know, it's you know that Jonathan Greenblage just apparently
flabbergasts to the fact that anti Semitism is rising. He
doesn't know what we're doing that's causing this, even though
their genocide has been live stream from Gaza, or the
fact that US has been dragged into another war that
threatens to overturn, you know, the global economy, all for
the benefit of Israel, and he wonders why people are
losing patients, and that exasperation or loss of patience is
interpreted as some sort of irrational, pathologically anti semitism as
a visit based on you know, current events. You know,
you know, I thought there was a thing on Twitter
Twitter acts that apparently it's been a huge increase in
anti Semitism and you know, well, and the person was
asking why why is this? I said, well, because they're
following current events. That's why. No, Jonathan Gruenblatt, they anted
defamation like they are a advacy group for Israel. For
some reasons, it't required to register as a foreign agent.
He goes to Israel, speaks to Kinesse uses, we have
to do this, we have to do that, we have
to you know, or the Eighth Front. Benjamin at Now
he comes to the United States and talks about meets
with American podcasters or influences if you will, and talks about,
you know, controlling the Eighth Front. That's see maniplaying American
public opinion. Why aren't they readistered as a foreign agent,
a charger of the far Act?
Speaker 1: Well, the when you take into consideration, and this is
not excusing anybody. If if if people are if people
are abused, and that means that it causes them to
be abusers. They don't get they don't get excused. But
most most Jews are raised to believe that everybody wants
to kill them just because they're Jewish, also that they're
special and that they're God's chosen people. So when you
are raised that everybody wants to kill you, you're special,
and that God shows you, then you have the perfect
storm of that creates a narcissism, and not a normal
kind of narcissism, a kind of narcissism that says, well,
these I know these people are civilians, but we're going
we have to find an excuse as to why they
need to die too, because I mean, if you honestly,
I guess, if you honestly believe that everybody wants to
kill you, then that eighty year old woman and that
six month old baby want to kill you, and it's
perfectly fine to incinerate them.
Speaker 2: There's the people are commenting on that bloom Was it Bloomfield, Illinois?
With that synagogue? The guy drove a I think it
was in Michigan somewhere Michigan. Yeah, sorry Blue, I think
he's Blue Michigan. It's a wealthy county, Oakland County, Michigan.
And the guys reportedly his he had children who were
killed in Gaza or Lebanon.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, yeah, Lebanon. But Tim, tim that what
does that have to do with us?
Speaker 2: What might be the fact that the synagogue celebrating the IDF,
you might not want to put a banner celebrating the
IDF or promoting Israel. Then you are there is some
response culpability of the Jewish people for Israel. It's a
Jewish project, So you can't I've been totally can't make
that distinction anyway. But basically, he drew over a truck
into the entrance. Maybe there's some explosive on it on
it didn't go off whatever, And there were someone who
had videotaped or filmed the police response. They're like two
hundred police cards, you know, uh, you know, the overreaction
sort of this thing. And and people say why the overreaction, Well,
because they're Jews, that's why, you know, that's why you
get that response. You don't get the same response in
Ovalde or something you have. You know, it's proportional. But anyway,
I said, well, you know, if I put in the
comment section, I get well, given the fact that a
Jew Jewish lives a one thousand times more valuable than
gentile lives. There the response was proportional, proportionate, right, And
that's and that's why was it ninety percent of DHS
grant money for security goes to Jewish organizations, which is
probably often stolen or embezzled, not paid for. Scity, we
have to pay for the security of these soft targets,
you know.
Speaker 1: But they're they're only soft targets because they're they're they're
so high IQ and everybody's jealous of their success.
Speaker 2: To him, Yes, that's what it is. Yeah, No, not
jealous else's success. It's just Jewish success.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous of yeah, and and and a lot of
Americans will be like, you know, I mean, so what,
so what he's Lebanese? So what he doesn't even belong here?
Or so what? Who cares? And you know, granted doesn't
belong here. We can talk about who opened the who
opened the borders, who starts the wars? It causes mass
mass migration out of certain areas. But also, I mean
those arguments are just Jewish. You're making the same exactly
arguments that Jews make when they kill geniles. Is that
they're you know, they're the other. That makes it okay,
Amelk Yeah, Yeah, I mean we've this is a culture
that's become highly judaized, which properly understood means feminized as.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, very feminine. They don't augur you logic. They
get highly emotional. You know, they're aggressive our playing the victim,
you know.
Speaker 1: So when you know, so when somebody fights back and
you know, their family is killed by Israelis and they
happen to be here, so they attack Israelis here, well,
you know that's all about Islam, and maybe it is
and maybe you don't want Muslims in your in your
country again who opened the borders?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny argument when when you say that
there's an attack out of synagogue or someone goes hey
wire and tries to shoot up a synagogue or the
Jewish place because of the news or whatever their motivations
and those Jonathan Greenblatt will get up there and blame
critics of Israel for inspiring them, but he never blames
or puts it in context of the behavior of Jews
or the actions of the Israeli state. Is maybe that's
the reason why the person went up and decided to
shoot up a synagogue. I mean, it cuts both ways.
So what he's saying is I can't comment on the
affairs of the day on politics, foreign policy, for fear
that criticism of Israel might inspire some when they go
out and do a criminal act or a terrorist act.
So therefore you're saying is that you are immune from criticism.
The same the argument with anti Semitism. There are definitis
of anti Semitisms, basically criticism of Jews or Jewish organizations.
So therefore the only way to avoid and if anti
Semitisms have been indeed, you know the fact I legal,
then I can't criticize Jewish organizations or Jews. Then you've
created a situation of Jewish supremacy. Then because they're immuneful criticism,
for fear that all throughout history, whatever misfortune Jews have suffered,
it's because of criticism of Jews as opposed to a
dialect between poor behavior, an aggrieved host, society, peasants and
these things. You can get very messy and complicated. But
they tell this, you know, this very self serving narrative.
It's like that book Esau's Tears writes about that. So
the self serving, you know, a narrative Jews tell about
their history. They were always the victim, you know, which
is very Again that creates a very you said, very
narcissistic and solves listing few things, So you can't really
have a dialogue with people like you can't co exist
and deal with people like that. That's how they see
the world.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean people will say that we you know,
this is still a free country, and you know, this
is still America. I mean, when America gets tacked attacked,
are we allowed to examine why? Why would nine to
eleven happen? Why would why did Pearl Harbor happen?
Speaker 2: Because Japanese are sneaky? Yeah, that's it. You can't you
know other than that's it. That's all the level of analysis.
You're uh, they're sneaky and they have buck teeth and
really really bad eyesight too. You know, that's this little
gret bottom you know, bottom glasses, round glasses, that sort
of characature World War Two. They're sneaky, you know. But
then again, we turn around with Iran and during negotiations
we kind we bob them on the pretext of negotiating
with them. I wonder why they won't they don't want
to negotiate.
Speaker 1: Now, Well, I mean, this is it's funny. Everything we're
talking about just points to the fact that you know,
we are judaized. We use the same excuses we have
the same motivation.
Speaker 2: Who are the chief negotiators in Iran in this latest
you know, military excursion?
Speaker 1: Was that Steve Whitkoff and Jared Jared Kushner.
Speaker 2: Are they like Jewish guys invested in real real estate
speculators or something whatever influence peddlers, Jewish influence peddlers. Why
are they negotiating for the United States?
Speaker 1: I mean, and they don't like It's not like they're
They're not Zionists, are they?
Speaker 2: Well? I think Christian is a member of Habbad, right,
the Tuttle Jews.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I mean so is so is Lutnik. I've
seen Trump at Habbad headquarters with a with a Yamagan
with with Howard Luttnik and Ben Shapiro. Yeah, I thought
Ben Shapiro doesn't it didn't like Trump until Trump bombs stuff.
And this was at the beginning of this precedency. So
what was that? What was he doing there? Hm? Hm odd.
Speaker 2: It just highlights the fact that the American people have
no representation and the regime lacks all legitimacy, and you know,
it's it's important to know these things. Yeah, we have
to know our position. There's more at the very least
is more dignity in it. That's from that scene from
a No Country for Old Men that what's the name
was Anton? What was his name? Anton? What Shargan?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Has h Woody Halson's character uh cornered in the hotel room.
So you have to acknowledge your situation. There's more dignity
in it. I don't think a situation is that hopeless,
of course, but we have to at least know what
where we stand for anything can be done about.
Speaker 1: Well, Tim, you realize that like the Epstein files and
this complete blunder with their rand is being used by
the left to try to topple Trump and bring down Trump.
That means you're on the side of the left.
Speaker 2: Tim, Trump scuttles own agenda. He sacrificed bag on the
altar of the Jews.
Speaker 1: Well not to mention that that's just a Jewish argument.
And when you say Israel, you know, Israel probably shouldn't
be bombing civilians. Oh you're you're with Hamas, aren't you?
Speaker 2: Were you condemned Hammas? You have to condemn himas well?
You can then the I d F.
Speaker 1: Those those are the good guys, Tim, those are the
good guys. If you say they're not the good guys,
you're with Hamas, okay.
Speaker 2: Because I must have a carry out of terris attack
against the well against the United States.
Speaker 1: Well, Tim, there, rude, Tim, Tim, Tim. There were some
real good dual citizens there on October seventh, and they
killed dual citizens.
Speaker 2: Tim with having a rave party in a war zone.
I mean it's like, and is it every Israeli adult
pen ages of eighteen fifty one a member of the
militia pretty much? Yeah, so, I mean they're kind of
like all targets, aren't they. These are the terms they
created themselves. They decided to create Israel nineteen forty and
expand relentlessly. They create these conditions we're surrounded by enemy. Said, well, yeah,
because you much stole the land. You know, when you
couldn't buy it, you started blowing them up. The cycle
of violence began in the late twenties with the with
the which you know, crazy atheist communist Jews they showed
up from Lithuanian bullet That's when the cycle of violence began.
Speaker 1: Not to even mentioned that this is the same logic
they use for Gaza. Everybody in Gaza voted for Hamas
in two thousand and six him where the average I
think the average age in the average age in Gaza
is below thirty. So pretty much most of the people
alive couldn't have voted for Hamas. But they're all Hamas
t him, every single one of them, which is which
means that you can drop bombs on them and you
can kill them. So why are you making an argument
that you know, people who literally serve in the IDF
because they have to, because they're required to, are actual soldiers.
Those are the good guys.
Speaker 2: The other ones are guys they required ever rave party
in disputed territory, y.
Speaker 1: Couldn't be like, let's let's go have a rave party
on carg Island right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, might might take your position the
more seriously? That shows how you know, either diluted or
you know, a decade that they are that they they
could do that. By the way, it's a one day raid.
It has less less than twenty four hours, right, I mean,
come on, no one's we're going to hold territory. And
that's sort of yeah. I think it might have been
a clever move by AMS to disrupt the the camp
date not the Camp David Accords. What are those agreements
with Saudi Arabia?
Speaker 1: Oh, the not the ISAAC cord.
Speaker 2: Aram Accords. Yeah, my accords confused with Jewish names.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was well because and you know the Jews
are going to they're they're going to abide by those accords.
Speaker 2: Yes, because they Yeah, they're always a bide by the
letter of these agreements. Yeah. I think the Baffel declarations
say nothing of the Scream members would be construed to
would depredate or attack you know, the current residence there.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you can always find you can you can
always find a lawyer, especially there. They can always find
a lawyer to make that mean something completely different. You think,
Do you think that's what it means to him? That's
not what it means. Let me, I'm an expert in
the law, sim I'll tell you what it means.
Speaker 2: But I think it was a tuck across interview with
our ambassador there. How could be and how could be
admitted that they can have it all, they can take
it all? You know, And this was just weeks before
this thing started. Uh So we have our US ambassador
there who's supposed to represent US interests with the Israeli state,
but he's there lobbing for it, for Israel claim and
pretty much claiming advocating greater Israel Eric Israel, which US
foreign policy coincidentally has been I guess championing or you
fighting for since the nineteen nineties, particually since two thousand
and one. This is a clean break that you they've
been able to carry out.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And now we're saying, is this what's happening? I mean,
is it is it? Could it be that both? Because
what they do is that they reason why Iran represents
an exidential foot to Israel. It's because Israel is the
size of New Jersey, okay, and it's aggressive. It's been
expanding and expanding, expanding, so it's it's in the state
of constant warfare and threatened by its neighbors because it's
always assaulting its neighbors to stealing their land, killing them.
And then you have you know, you have Iran, you know,
which is shed Islam. It's also Persian, which is an
important extinction. It's a huge country you know that's not
on the border, but almost that it's border. It it
casts a shadow over the Persian Gulf, you know, which
means that it has it's a real it's an entity,
it's a reality. It has to be dealt with, and
they're not dealing with in a realistic fashion, and they
can they think they can destroy it. The only way
they can think they can do is that they get
the United States government to help them in that. But
their definition of a threat is when a country is
able to shoot back and defend its interests and also
push back and challenge or resist the ambitions of you know,
the people that run Israel, which is great at Israel.
To me, that means that you should have to negotiate
with them, and it means you have to curb your
ambitions and come up with a way to live with
your neighbors in a peaceful, equitable fashion. Basically, you have
to treat to them like human beings, like fellow humans,
like equals, and they can't do that because they're Jews,
you know. So it's impossible for for a for a
diplomatic solution to the area because Jews cannot act like diplomats,
they can't pursue a diplomatic way, and to the extent
that they've taken over the United States, the United States
is unable to engage in any real diplomacy because they've
taken over US foreign policy. So we have this war
because they'll say Iran thrends Israel. Well it does in
a way. So that's where you negotiate with them. You know,
it's a state, it has genuine national security interest, it
has territory, it represents the people, So you negotiate with them.
They don't think they should have to negotiate with them.
They actually have this fantasy they can actually change the regime,
you know, destroy it if you will. You know, Trump
talk about unconditional surrender without any real interesting what that means.
Speaker 1: Thinking that you can take down a kingdom that has
existed longer than yours is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, totally speaking, and they've said that,
you know, the rhetoric changes, or at least the justifications change.
It's the nuclear arsenal. I heard so many comment today
that Iran there's sort of this temporal spiritual or think
about Iran, but there's two weeks away from everything, two
weeks away from a nuclear bomb. You know, the war
will last two weeks and theset of things. But the
idea again, the that remember for a while it was
the protest. Apparently they killed sixty thousand people, forty thousand people,
one hundred thousand people, ten thousand protesters. We were told
during this protest a few weeks ago, before the latest war,
and so basically, so we need to liberate the Iranian
people by reinstalling the SHAW. Okay, well it's funny because
you know, so you know, for democracy is to say
we need freedom and democracy in Iran. Well, they have
a democracy in Iran. They elect the president, and the
president then answers to the accounts of elders, which oversees
because it's a confessional state more or less. And they
set out the broad parameters how society is governed, and
you have the elected government. That's how it works. But
prior to the Shaw that the US installed ninete fifty three,
they had a democracy. But that democracy ran a foul
of certain interests, the you know, Anglo oil interests, the
Anglo you know, the Anglo personal Orld Company BP and
the Seven Sisters and so the CIA M I six
got involved and they overthrew Massidic in fifty three. You
alluded to that. So it's not about democracy. Then we
installed the Shaw, which was a you know, a monarchy.
It's had no real legitimacy there for twenty six years,
stayed power for the better part of twenty yeah, twenty
six years, you know. So it's not about that, you know,
it's because Iran has the capacity to hurt Israel and
restrain it in the region, and Israel wants to be
the dominant power in that area, and that therein lies
the conflict. Now, why is US foreign policy? Why is
American blood and treasure being expended to create greater Israel?
And how is that being done? Why is US positive
and hijacked? Because the Jewish diaspora in the West, particularly
the United States, has hijacked the US government. It's hijacked
our media, it meant but it's finance, software, high tech
communications eight unit eight two hundred into Google, right who
owns Google? So you know, this's sort of this octopus,
if you will. It's got its tentacles tightly around everything
in our country. And how do you how do you
pull it off at this point? And that's that's the
big question.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I was informed that seventy million and
you know, whites and Slavs needed to die so that
countries like Iran could not exist anymore, that only Israel
had the right to have a country, you know, for
its people, by its people, and they could do whatever
it wanted and expand out and yeah, take their own
sedate and land.
Speaker 2: And what Israel does is it leverages the diaspora throughout
the world to co opt Western governments to do their bidding.
You know, someone showed me a map and show look
how small Israel is. Yeah, wow, look how small the
United Kingdom was, but it had a global empire. It's like,
what do you It's not a question in real estate,
but when you could when you control the banking centers,
of financial sects, the media, you know, these things of
all versus every Western government. You don't have to hold
territory militarily if you hold people psychologically and financially got
them by the financial short hairs and also psychologically they're
conquered because of Hasbera in the media, which is why
Larry Ellison's buying up concentrating the media empire to stamp
down criticism and control the narrative.
Speaker 1: He just wants the truth to get out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barry Weiss, is that the free press and CBS
News and all that, But it has to be treated.
You know, again, the big. You know, you have this
conflict in the Middle East, and now you have this
the Strait of Hermus being shut down. It's one fifth
of all energy comes out of that area. And this
is all being done for what Because Israel cannot seem
to have peaceful relations with this neighbors or with that
I ran because it's aggressive, it's expanding. Why should the US,
you know, expend any blood and treasure in that effort.
It's because the Jews control the media and the finances
in the States and evidently are representatives at the federal
and state level.
Speaker 1: I've heard that Israel has undergone over fifty barrages of
missiles in the last two weeks, and the ones from
Lebanon have absolutely devastated northern Israel. How come we don't
know about that? How come that's not being reported on
the news?
Speaker 2: Well? Which is Remember one of the conditions for not
bombing Iran was Iran giving up its missile arsenal, which
is principal, which is his principal means, it's conventional missile arsenal.
It's conventional means, it's the principal means of defense. So
if a gun try does that, what you're saying you
have to give up your sovereignty. That was the demand.
If Israel has not been able to disarm Hzbala for
what fifty years? What makes something that they could have
they would be successful with it? With her aunt, I
guess I thought the US could step in for him.
Speaker 1: Then you have all these Second Amendment fagots running around going.
You know, I don't care. Everyone should have a gun,
everyone should be able to protect themselves. But Israel, it
ran better give up its missile.
Speaker 2: You know, they were complying with the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty.
It's Israel that a didn't sign it and has the
arsenal which supposedly threatens the launch missiles if they if
they feel threat you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well, I mean I don't know that they
have launch capabilities to like reach the United States. But
you know they do have embassies, yes.
Speaker 2: Diplomatic pouches stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they have they have embassies, and under diplomatic rules,
you're not allowed to look in their look at anything
that they're bringing into your country.
Speaker 2: And something tells me that they'd love to be able
to send a couple of nuclear missiles towards Rome for
some reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wonder why that would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So again it's what they think as as accidential
threat is is somebody being able to put up opposition
to their ambitions or their desires, you know, which again
is fundamentally it's a well yeah, they're a sociopathic nation.
Speaker 1: As someone wrote, you know, well, Jim let the goy.
I'm live in the real world. We're not going to
deal with competition.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the Israels are feeling a bit of
You're getting a little bit of reality today, a missles fallen.
Speaker 1: Well what I hear they're partying in the tunnels. Strange
that they like tunnels, especially in New York.
Speaker 2: They're rave parties and tunnels.
Speaker 1: Okay, but somebody posted, somebody posted about a week ago
and said, I got stuck in Israel. I'm in the
tunnels with them. I've only been raped six times.
Speaker 2: Uh. But from an American standpoint is again, we're not
gonna and why are when the position we're in there,
we're seeing sort of the this our government, the Trump
administration sort of captured by the Jewish lobby. Is the
Epstein files kind of the really might give us some
idea why it is where we're confronted with the situation.
There is a study by Ferris Modad. I think you've
interviewed them once or twice, right.
Speaker 1: He's been on the show of multiple multiple well.
Speaker 2: Earlier this year, he published a series of a series
analyzing the latest Epstein files released by the Justice Department,
focusing on Epstein's extensive networks, and his approach emphasized mapping
connections across ethnic, financial, and political spheres, framing them as
sort of a broader globalist interest tied to the w
e F from various Western governments. But he argues that
these networks engage in activities uh political speech, war profiteering,
usury offshoring, industry, immigration advocacy, and the Epstein files could
have exposes all this and it creates you know, what's
something that I used to which is called something called accountability.
And his series starts with with this understanding the Epstein files.
This is back in February, where he outlines Epstein's role
as a connector and high level networks. He describes Epstein
not as a just a on his own isolated figure
about it's sort of as a node in a web
in involving ethnic affiliations, Jewish Zionist financial leads, political influencers,
and it's it's it's it's a sort of a sober analysis.
But it was suggesting is that in order to understand
this network and understand sort of Zog, if you what
it's called Zog, Zion's occupied government, and how they've been
able to exert so much influence on our societies, you
have to look at take an ethnographic approach. I understand,
looking at an organized crime network, and you have to
take in or factor in the fact that they're Jews,
because the same way that you would investigate the mafia,
you have to take in the ethnic component, and I
understand how it's organized, the motivations and these things, and
that's what has to be done. Now you have to
you know, wait a second, this is a Jewish network,
all powerful Jews belong to it, and proceed from there
and you would think again, they say, if they didn't
have the sort of this taboo, the Jewish taboo where
we can't criticize Jews for fear of being called antisemitic
or you know, bringing out another Holocaust, that you actually
pursued it like an organized crime investigation or sort of
something like the risk Committee hearings in the nineteen fifties
are looking into the Great Foundations that the Texas and Foundations,
how they were engaging in sort of co wort government
undermining the American way of life, if you will. It's
funny there was a poll that came out a week
or so ago where fifty I think over fifty percent
of Republicans under the age of thirty thought Jews were
a threat to the American way of life, which is
a funny way to phrase because that seems so old fashioned,
because what is the American wave life? You have a
clear definition of that anymore. But that's how you have
to go after this. And from that, you know, you know,
from the Key Faver hearings investigating the organized crime and
when Jake Hoover was drag kicking and screaming acknowledging it,
there was something was something called like the mafia or
the coast and Ustra that you had legislation and what
you had was the RICO Actor Racketeering Influenced Corruption Act,
And that name was chosen or that acronym was chosen
purposely because it addressed in the ethnic component to it.
So we have to you know, basically we have to
address pass a law similar to the Rico Act called
the Shlomo Act or something. Think of the acronym. I
don't know, they came of a Patriot Act, the Shlomo
Act or something, and addressing this criminal network and acknowledging
the fact that the Whish identity factors in how it operates,
what it does, and why it does it. You know, basically,
we have to legitimize make the Jewish question normal again.
That's the only way you're gonna get your sovereignty back.
Speaker 1: Well, when they, uh, when Jonathan Greenblat says that, you know,
the beepers were such a huge success that they should
be considered, you know, people they should consider using them again.
You know, But that's just them, that's just them bragging.
It's just being hyperbolic. I mean, it's not like they
would ever do that. Oh oh shoot, I guess they
did do that, But you know they they didn't hurt
anybody innocent in that. Nobody, nobody in Lebanon is anywhere
near their kids or anything like that. They don't they
don't have kids or anything. Oh that's right, the kids
are Amelec.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're Amlec, no one's innocent.
Speaker 1: So you know, what are you supposed to do? I
mean you I've tried to explain it like this. People
see that there is this ethnic component of Somalis in
the country, and they, you know, are like, well, you know,
the small group, but they're organized. Somebody has helped them organized.
They didn't do this all on their own. There are
also groups of Mexicans that have their own kind of
lobby and they punch above their weight. Yep, that's a problem.
It's a problem when you have a society where they're
are these small groups that because they are able to
and enabled to organize and fleece the people who actually
belong here, then that's bad. But there's another group. It's
been doing it for over one hundred years, but it's
pretty much at this point illegal. It's illegal in some
states now to mention that. So what do you do?
What do you do when you have the threat of yeah,
you can go to jail. You know, we can go
to jail for this for what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they want that's what Randy Fine wants.
Speaker 1: Oh, hold on a second, tim I mean, I've been
told that people like Randy Fine are good Americans and
Mark Levin. I mean, Mark Levin, a truly great American patriot,
is somewhat underseieged by other people with far less intellect,
capability and love for our country. Mark is tough, strong,
and brilliant, hence the nickname The Great One, conceived by
our maga friend, the wonderful Sean Hannity. After years of
dealing with market, legal, media and other capabilities, Mark would
often do Shawn's show speaking as a lawyer, and Sean
realized then, as did others, that he was special. Mark
Levin was not looking to do television, radio, or anything else,
but he was drafted by very smart people who understood
that there are few like him. He's a true conservative
and intellect far smarter than those who criticize him. But
above all, he's a man, a great one in common
sense who truly loves our country. When you hear others
unfairly attack Mark, remember that they are jealous and angry
human beings whose sway is much less than the public understands,
and will now that they know where I stand, rapidly diminish.
Other than for his wonderful wife and family, Mark Levin
only cares and wants one thing, greatness and success for America.
Those who speak illamark will quickly fall by the wayside
as do the people whose ideas, policies, and footings are
not sound. They are not Maga. I am, and MAGA
includes not allowing to Ran, a sick, demented and violent
terrorist regime to have a nuclear weapons of plow up
the United States of America, the Middle East and ultimately
the rest of the world. MAGA is about stopping them cold,
and that is exactly what we are doing. God bless
our great military, which I have rebuilt since the beginning
of my first term, to which you've everlasting peace through
strength make America great again. Thank you for your attention
to this matter. President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Where to begin? Yeah, he's so, Yeah, doesn't Mark lev
needs to be a never Trumper.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. Now. You see, when you have to,
I guess, make nice with the never Trumpers to get
elected again and promise them whatever they want. Once you
get in there, you're going to say insane things in
public to prop up their apparatricks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The price for supporting the Jewish lobby is looking ridiculous.
Your daughter that too, Yeah, that too. I mean he's
accusing Iran and wanting to blow up the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, as far as I know, there's only one party
in this whole thing that has threatened to do that before,
and Seymour Hirsch read a whole book about it. Yes,
maybe Seymour was lying, you know, he is, he is
of that that ilk, but he is pretty much right
about most of the things. Almost everything he's reported on
in the last sixty years.
Speaker 2: Well, he's been reduced to substack.
Speaker 1: Why is why?
Speaker 2: I mean, the New York Times won't publish this stuff anymore.
So that's the legacy media. So maybe being on substacks
more important than the New York Times now, so maybe
it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, head of the curve there, sure who owns who
owns the New York Times?
Speaker 2: Yeah, simply can't rely on the Post Times or legacy
media to cover these things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want real I mean, there are
very few. I mean you can count on one hand
if you lost some fingers to fire, you know, firecrackers
or something. They actually, you know, good publications out there,
but yeah, a lot of them are on they've been
relegated to substack. But I mean I think that's a
that's a positive though, yeah, because they're not constrained.
Speaker 2: But it's almost as if they were blindsided by the
straight up her news being shut down. How could he
not foresee that it could be There's an our interview
with Tuckercross and Brett Weinstein, and he said Brett Weinstein,
who of course is Jewish, was talking about how what
worries him is he Trump doesn't seem to be in charge,
which I never thought he really was a president starting
in charge, you know, but we tend to you know,
look at the Trump administration or the Biden administration, the
Obama administration.
Speaker 1: But the.
Speaker 2: He was saying, how it's almost as if those in charge,
and he was vague and who they are, uh, don't
seem to care. I mean that they want made they
may want to blow things up because it's so irrational,
so contrary to everyone's interested to do this, and they
did it, you know, without any congressional input or debate.
I mean, it's you know, they thought, they mean, you
can't trust those people right now, and none of them
want to vote on it anyways. They don't want, they
don't want the responsibility of to be on a record
of supporting or not supporting it, so they'd rather just
you know, play the role of bystander in this.
Speaker 1: I mean the straight the straight of horror moves, which
is always on is always a talk when it comes
to Iran.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Did they see here? Here's the thing I don't A
lot of people will say that this is like all
you know, this is all being orchestrated. You know, it's
like why are you why are you even questioning this
because it's all orchestrated. They have apparently they have supreme
power over everything except the straight off hord moves of course.
But these people are incompetent. They don't know what they're doing.
I mean, you just have you know, some guy who
they made the Secretary of War so that like grug
brained people could be like, oh, look at him, he's
so cool. He was a soldier. Look at those tattoos.
I mean, he's based definitely an SMU guy. Not so
they're meantodist university, someone called tier one. I've been told
not to use tier one anymore because it just makes
me sound like a normy. But this guy doesn't know
what he's doing. He's a Fox News host. He is
the guy they want there. Marco Rubio is the guy
that they want there. Susie Wiles is the woman that
they want there. Pam Bondi is the woman that they
want there. I think everyone I've mentioned so far, with
the exception of of heg Seth, is from Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah so so Florida Mafia. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, though they're all they're all the Census loyalists. Actually,
by the way, Desantus is more Trump, even with his
radical Zionist positions, isn't isn't to be trusted as much
as Desantus is.
Speaker 2: So Trump has never gone to Tel Aviv to sign legislation.
He is not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is they don't get this military. He
hasn't been able to build up the military where it
needs to get back to the military is not designed
to fight things like this. It's not to I mean,
they're already saying there is no way troops that you know,
feet can be put on the ground in Iran. You
need a million to two million. You don't have that.
So you're just doing this carg Island stuff and maybe
you can put some boots on the ground there and
hopefully they don't get slaughtered. And you know, if you
beg your friends quote unquote friends, if you have any
left to come and help you keep the straits open,
maybe you know you can do that, but it seems
like nobody wants to help.
Speaker 2: Well. The problem with Trump, and again this is e
Michael Jones said, the Trump was annointed by God to
bring by the end of the American Empire. And isn't
the mean that Trump's doing it intentionally? It's just gonna happen.
And this is how this is the cunning of reason.
Take a Gellian view of it, where God's will acting throughout,
acting through history, and he's, you know, by starting this
war with Iran, he threatens to shut down the straight up.
The music exposes the lack of credibility for the US
security guarantees for the Gulf Cooperative Council States, which means,
why are they part of the petro dollar system? Do
we host these bases if it's just a liability? And
why are we selling over oil in dollars? If the
US can't apply security guarantee without the petro dollar, the
dollar will effectively lose its reserve status currents and all
of a sudden, US won't be able to finance its
massive debt, which keeps the whole thing going and the
empire crumbles. The same time, you have European countries like
Italy not going along with it, and then I can
participate in it, which then is that going to dissolve NATO.
We've already bombed Germany's pipeline, the nord Stream pipeline, and
we're basically making war on Germany, a NATO member, in
order to get it Russia support. Our proxy were against
Russia in the Ukraine. So at the same time we're
looking to expand NATO up to Russia's borders, where we
effectively signed on to a TACKI a NATO member in
the process. I see the contradiction there. Maybe I'm burdened
with a longer attention span, I suppose, But these are
entirely contradictory moves now that occurred during the Biden administration. Again,
I don't think presidents matter as much as we think
they do. So the system's falling, The wheels will falling
off because those in charge do not have a a
sense of objective morality or logic logos, if you will.
And so that's so Trump is like Captain a had.
You know, he's mad, he's uh, you know, he can't
control his passions, and he's old, and he's surrounded by
people like Mark Levin, which he read that long truth
social crazy Mark Levin. So he's being controlled or advised
ultimately by crazy Jews. You mostly don't know a sense
of limitation.
Speaker 1: Logos by the crazy zion and crazy Christian Zionists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, they're yeah, they're just tools for Jews,
you know.
Speaker 1: Right, he listens to him and he says, you know,
he doesn't have an ideology, he's not he says he's
not a Christian yet he listened, you know, his spiritual advisor,
his quote unquote pastor for lack of a better term,
is a woman.
Speaker 2: Crazy woman, Yeah, who talks and who talks in tongues
or something. Right. Well, and he says he's only guided
by his own mind. Well that's okay, wow, okay, that's
that's it, your own mind. You know, in conscience, you're
not you know, there's no greater higher you know, morality
that you uh repaired to when you're thinking about these things.
You're that you're that you're that smart, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't see how people can can still
be trusting the plan.
Speaker 2: And then he talks about and Iran they cut women
in half or something. What are you talking about? It
had babies?
Speaker 1: Hell, I do what that? They don't even they don't
even make them wear burkers. It's like, I mean, it's
like literally women wear If you see a woman wearing
a burker there, it's because she wants to. You know.
It's amazing that there.
Speaker 2: Is sati Arabia with that.
Speaker 1: Actually oh well, I mean yeah, I mean didn't wasn't
it a Saudi who bailed him out one time when
he was yeah, like it was going bankrupt. Let's not
talk about the Saudis.
Speaker 2: And that's all part of that whole Petro dollar scheme
and all that you know, that was degrasion by FVR
when he was feeble brain back in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 1: And the craziest thing about the petro dollar scheme now is,
I mean it's pretty much run its course. I think
only eight percent of all dollars are used for oil,
so yeah, what's the other ninety two percent? Yeah, I
mean a lot of it.
Speaker 2: It's like a nurture. People assume that America's military dominant
because it has been. What if it's not anymore? You
know rod Injoordan article that could be America's Sue as moment,
Sue is Canal thing exposed British impotence. A few years later,
there's a winds of change speech the empire collapsed.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you could you could make the
argument that you know you're over here doing these things,
you're not doing them for yourself, You're doing them for
Israel obviously. But even if you wanted to say that
the Venezuela thing was, I mean, look, if you're going
to do Venezuela, at least install your own person in there.
Mm hm, I mean that's the smart thing to do
from a from a real politics standpoint. But if you
I could even make the argument that you need to
get Mexico in line and Honduras in line, and there's
some South America in countries you need to get in
line because they're in your hemisphere. But you can't even
get Minnesota in line. You can't even get California in line.
You can't get Virginia in line. There are cities all
across this this country, in red states that you can't
get in line. So what the why are you so
the only reason but you can damage. Yeah. The only
reason you're halfway around the world is for the people
who own you, Yeah, and the people you owe something to,
whatever reason it may be.
Speaker 2: I was listening to Jonathan green Platz. He was interviewed
by Wolf Blitzer. So you had the former APEC guy
interviewing Jonathan Greenblat as the chief propagandas for the ad
L and Johnthan Greenblatt was talking about this crazy, crazy
guy that attacked a synagogue in Michigan, and he says,
this crazy guy is so accurvated by events that are
occurring halfway around the world. Are you really you serious
you're gonna make that argument. This is the guy that
travels to Israel, speaks before the Canesse, and strategizes with
Israel to get America involved in events that are six
seven thousand miles away from his borders. And the reason
why this guy did this here is because Jonathan Greenblatt
and his fellow tribesmen have been able to entangle the
United States for decades in affairs halfway around the world.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there is no reason a radical
Lebanese person would be here other than I mean, we
could have some Lebanese people here.
Speaker 2: Sure, why not a lot of more Christian Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is no reason why you have rad
radical Lebanese people here who want to do people harm
other than there Israel's neighbor.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no other reason. How hard is it? How hard
is it to even if even if you don't want,
you know, even if you still want to be like
well America rah rah rah rah rah, at least understand it,
if you still want to support Israel, at least understand it,
at least be able to go. Yeah, I mean I
don't you know, sure, yeah, I mean they've killed them
how upon thousands upon thousands of Lebanese people, you know,
in the last few decades. But you know, they had
to do that, and sure there's going to be blowback
in other parts of the world. Just accept it. I
I would respect them more if they were like, well,
you know, that's the price you pay for supporting Israel.
They're just honest about it, and honestly, I think they're
getting to that point. Is there being honest about so
much else sticking there, you know, just opening their mouths
to switch feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how how this lasts much longer.
But Look, I have been informed by very smart people
on Twitter, very smart people that what Jews you win, you.
Speaker 2: Well lose rhymes better, doesn't it. I don't know how
you win. What are you winning? I mean, as America
got more prosperous and we're peaceful and more harmonious with
the greater Jewish influenced jewis ascendency, it's.
Speaker 1: All those it's all those blessings that we've been we've
been have have been porn poured out upon us in
the last five or six decades, you know, because when
you bless Israel, you will be blessed. And since we
started blessing Israel, I mean, look look how look how
great the country has become. Look how prosperous we are,
Look how homogeneous we are, Look how you know, Look
how everybody wants once are our currency, everybody wants to
have a have us in their corner. Anyone who wants
that at this point is just basically scared We're going.
Speaker 2: To kill them.
Speaker 1: Why because we've been judaized and now that's what we do.
We act like them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you grow us, internalize how they think, and because
you lose all moral eventually lose all moral credibility, which
does matter in this world, actually, you know, in this
very cynical Machabelian world, it does matter. Soft power doesn't matter.
And there was a time the United States you know,
was looked up to and maybe it wasn't exactly earned,
but it nestslie was there given the name narratives, but
it was. It was something different. And with the Jewish
takeover which began probably late sixties, still thought was solidified
by the late eighties, what have you know, at the
end of the Cold War, what have we had? You know,
and America squandered its unipolar moment well because it wanted
to maintain a unipolar that wasn't a natural condition. That
was that was brought about through all the events of
the twentieth century, you know, the Jewish century, the World Wars,
there was something you know, even under media post period,
you had the brent Wood system, but it was usurrous,
so its eaverly going to come to you know, repudiation
by the early seventies. And then you had the petro
dollar system. The petro dollar system produces the very things
that make these events or witnessing now and arguably inevitable
because the exorbitant privilege that it bestows creates arrogance and recklessness.
It's just something in the human nature's I'm not necessarily
blaming Jews for that. I saw a poll that someone
was bragging about the Jews had won, you know, certain
percentage of Nobel Peace Prizes, science and to all these
awards that they've won. Said, okay, so you can, you know,
take collective credit, you also have to take responsible, take
collective responsibility. Jews are also at least fifty percent responsible
all the trouble in the world and the less than
one percent of the global population. Because I point out
is that the problem is it's also it's the non Jew,
It's the guy em if you will, the gentiles that
are also h there's a problem. There's just gullible. You
could say it's something with the concupiscence or a sinful,
flawed nature. It leaves. It makes us very vulnerable to
the things that Jews offer or the things.
Speaker 1: That they do.
Speaker 2: It's whether it's you know, buy now, pay later, pornography, entertainment,
these things. Nevertheless, there is some agency responsibility there, you know.
I saw one post that said a Jews are done
playing the victim. My response was then now you're going
to shut up, you know, if you're done being victims,
shut up. You know that's not what they mean though,
they mean exploding pagers and more death and destruction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the if they were, if they stopped playing the victim,
they would lose their influence very quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's their effeminate. It's almost yeah, you said,
someone said that they're very effeminine. Their argumentation how they
think lack of logic and emotion and these things is
if you're the physically weaker, you have to rely on
guilt or moral manipulation of whoever you're trying to get
something from, or at least established parody with you. It's
been observed often this is why women emotionally have a
hard problem with apologies. Men can more easily apologize. Yeah,
it's just one of these things that they have noticed
that the apologies are different with men and women. How
they look at it. With women, it's the it's the
feelings that matter. It's not sacidly exectally what they did.
It's how the person feels about what they did. So
they had to deal with managing the feelings of the
of the agree of as supposed to actually acknowledging what
they did, whereas men whire acknowledge what was done, the
code that was bringing, the law that was broken, or
something that was done wrong. Well, it's so with Jude
usually the weaker partner physically, numerically, so they have to
kind of rely on sort of manipulation and cleverness, you know.
And that's what you see, and that's why you get this,
you know, Jewish manipulation along with the aggressiveness. You know, No,
we're the victim, but we're not going to do it anymore.
We're going to fight back, you know, that sort of thing,
and acknowledge anything they've ever done wrong. They've never they've
never done anything wrong. Randy Fine said that, remember that,
Randy Fine, you'd be kicked out of one hundred countries
in history. It's never our fault. Actually said that in
a public speech.
Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, they're at the point
where they're just saying things now that they wouldn't have said,
you know, thirty years ago, they would only say to themselves.
They wouldn't say, you know. And I guess it's the
curse of social media too, where people think they social
media causes people to get into these little echo chambers
and they say things publicly that you they must think
they're the only ones hearing it. It's only their fellow
Jews are hearing it. But you know, the whole thing
about this is is that absent America, absent the you know,
the the Anglo history here, the the inventions, the just
how technologically superior, you know, the Anglo is to everyone else.
They they they're not for all there. For everything they
want to talk about that they created and they invented,
well most of that is easily debunked. And most of it,
I mean even nuclear technology was stolen from here. Yeah,
Benjaminett Yahoo personally was part of that. And there's a
certain level of jealousy there. But also if they're and
what I believe they are, trying to destroy the United States,
and especially if they're trying to destroy the what are
called heritage Americans, then their future is really bleak because
they're not gonna be able to survive without them. So
they should probably be more thankful. There should probably be
more than one statue of a gentile in England, James
Jesus Engleton, and there's probably be a couple more, and
they should be a little more fucking.
Speaker 2: Grateful from what I said at the renowned for their gratitude.
Speaker 1: Well is even sitting the last two thousand setting, the
last two thousand years of history and the Old Testament.
You are correct.
Speaker 2: Introspection and gratitude are in their strong suit and you're right.
If they don't have a host from which they can
leach off of and piggyback on, what do they got?
And I don't know if the hun Chinese is going
to be quite as receptive or as easy manipulated, easily manipulated.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, the if this is a war, you know,
against the Chinese, which I don't think this is. I
think there is a faction that wants to turn toward
the Chinese and try to weaken them. I think that
at this point that's only an excuse. Then yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Well that I be able to guilt the Chinese, and
that kind of guilt the Persians, right, the Iranians, you
can't guilt them. The Europeans, they've been able to guilt
them because of certain narratives, you can say, maybe certain
weaknesses or strengths in the Western you know, the Western mind, Christianity,
idea of an orderly cosmos. There's also fired the industrial,
the scientific and ultimately the Industrial revolution and made Europe
leap frog past the rest of humanity. These things did
exist in Asia or in the Middle East, the conditions
did exist in in Europe. That's why Europe, you know, advanced.
So you know, I was able to leap frog past
the rest of the world. You know, if you destroy
that spirit by destroying the people, which I think they
are trying to achieve, Yeah, what are they going to have?
You know, it's been observed the Chinese aren't very creative.
They're very good at imitative absorption. Same thing with the Japanese,
you know, but from understand they still hack a lot
of like intellectual property, they copy a lot of things.
So you you, you destroy the you know, the foundation
for that creative spirit, which is Western particularly European Occidental
Western Europe. Uh, you're gonna kill the goose that lays
the golden egg. Golden eggs taking the West for granted.
That's a lot of people do these days, take everything
for granted and blame it for everything and never applying
those standards on themselves simultaneous. So I've always thought it
was interesting, So.
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with Thomas that probably the West
felt at Stalingrad and that the the remnants that were
left over, the authoritarian personality and plans like that just
finished it off. There's still a spirit there, but it's
been overtaken by the things that they gave to us.
Like let's see feminism, transgenderism, abortion, all the things that
they brag about.
Speaker 2: These things that lead to societal death. Yeah, you know,
because you're not literally not recreating, not pro creating, and
under those conditions that could be just a function of modernity.
There's also decadence. Every society goes through these cycles. They
have to look at a sort of civilizational transformation, a
fourth Turning, and just to sign the late stage empire
and decadence and that type of environment, the Jews can
very easily manipulate the situation and and sort of engage
in the looting phase. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one problem though, Yeah, and with what happens to
them without us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was the you know, the process started
with the Enlightenment and Freemasonry, which opens society up to
these things. And you know, because a lot of linkage
between Judaism and Freemasonry, you know, in that in that
void that's created. Uh, they're able to step in and start,
you know, playing their games. So it's a problem of
liberalism itself. It creates the opportunity for it because you
have to have illiberal protections against it, you know, barriers,
you know, ghettos, Yeah, strict quotas, these things that are
considered you know what, that's them to liberal order. That's
you're generalize, you're treating people like groups. No, but how
do you spose Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, not asking to
make any predictions just from your your knowledge of history.
You think we're talking a year from now and we're
still going to be talking about this around thing.
Speaker 2: No, I think there's real limits to it. We're seeing
real physical limits to it, unless it's some sort of
plenged blow the world up, if it's for what it's
being stated. The stated goals was just the disarmament or
the sort of the of Iran, sort of the defanging
of Iran visa of the Israel. No, it's gonna be
a failed operation. I think it's more likely that Israel
won't exist two years from now because they're pretting so
much strain on the I know Jews, keynot is there
for the last eighty years, so you can follow that cycle.
Do you think that the fifty fifth chance of Trump
won't even be president a year from now?
Speaker 1: Do you think the they rebuild the bases back.
Speaker 2: If that is, because that again, it's one of things
it's hard to predict because I don't think they know
what they're doing right now. So there's there's too much,
too many variables. I think, can they rebuild the bases
back or will the Gulf States say okay, uh, we're
going to trust your security system now. Either the suit
that you promised that you couldn't provide I can't. I
don't know. I don't have a crystal ball on that.
I think the conditions are that there's a good chance
that they would not be built back, and this could
shatter that system. I think we're saying no.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: For the longest time, it was thought that the petro
dollar system would collapse conserve a sort of a repudiation.
People get sick of having holding dollars and they just
sort of they sell dollars, uh, And they were collapsing.
You know. It's sort of like this is sort of
a class sort of a black what do you call
a black Swan event because people planned it, but sort
of they it didn't They didn't expect to get that
this for these results from it. People will say, well
then then they did then because you know, everything's always
planned and controlled. Uh, but it could very lead to
the crack up of the system that we've been talking about.
It's exposes, it's it's it's vulnerabilities and its fissures. Now
because you asked if I ran wins by surviving and
controls the terms and the Suez and sorry in the
port of in their home share news, they can demand
that the US relinquish their bases and we may get
the retrenchment, the sort of return to America the western
hemisphere that that that that's been talked about. Because you
don't you're not going to get the type of necessary
reforms brought about through voluntarily. Unfortunately, that there's too many
internal contradictions and within built into our economic system, the
petrodolar system, the world reserve currency and the debt cycle
and these things. Unfortunately, you need sort of a something
external and that that external pressure would be just reality
stepping and saying the system they can't maintain the system anymore.
What that holds domestically. It's hard to say that. Obviously,
America's got to experience considerable pain to set set things right.
Like I said, you know, we've been on heroin for
so many decades. Financially, is there a financial method owne
clinic we can check into to ease us off. And
under the current political system and the elections and uh
midterm elections, all the special interests, is no way to
uh to uh negotiate this properly and set up a
economic system sort of resure and reindustrialize. You know that
that would require a lot of people adjusting not only
you know, their economic lives, but also how they approach life,
their culture. The FIAT, the petro dollar system, and the
created this lot vast source of debt for the US
so you could fuel all this consumerism, so also created
the fire economy. The de industrialization of the United States
is also enabled all the explosion of bureaucracy and law
and finance, everything related to real estate, which also provided
a lot of employment for women. At the same time
it lowered wages for men, and it created the sort
of the dual, the two income family, which is now
the norm. And people have adjusted their expectations their lives
to that. And there's also I think the belit ate
plummeted from like just under four to one point seven
in the United States, and how they reverse that. You
can't really reverse that into you changed economics conditions, and
no one's going to vote for that. No one's going
to vote for put women back in the kitchen because
it's not pleasant. It seems illiberal and voluntary. But some
things have to be voluntary to get people who do
think that that's necessary and correct, because inevitably, if you
emancipate women from those things, they stop having children in
your society, whethers away, you know. And the Fiat dollar
system and consumerism kind of fueled all that with employment,
you know, the fire economy, jobs, bureaucracy, education law, these
things which women excel in because they're really not doing anything.
You're just you know, over educated or overtrained file clerks,
you know, these things. They're not really producing anything of value.
And there's no way to politically how do you make
those changes. It has to be something external. It has
to be some sort of chastisement that makes people do
where they have to to survive. And so some crisis
like this is necessary it's not you know, they can
think about what it might entail the suffering, but suffering
is how you get people back to reality. God allows
suffering because that's the way people acknowledge what they've done
wrong and get them to do what's right, you know.
And the final scheme of things, so there's some sort
of chastisement necessarily. So often people look at these things
in terms of chastise, which is like a moral tone
to it, you know, some sort of correction. You know,
you have the hangover because you drank it too much
last night, and you should have that hangover. It will
teach you not to drink so much. That's something that
the politicians don't like to admit, you know. They want
to make say that you have the golden age and
really get back to prosperity without dealing with the past
you know, mistakes or bad policies that they've advocated for decades.
And now we're dealing with the sort of the cumulative
effect of these things, and so the clasps the petrodolar system,
which what's going to happen. Well, yeah, it's true, but
it's also a curse because it's it's created our our
upside down, screwy society, enabled to finance, enabled all the
perversion and degenerate stuff we see today. I'm I don't
think that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense. I guess
the Yeah, just talk.
Speaker 2: To people what they do, Talk to people, what they
when they go to work, what they think is normal.
It's like, all this is just so screwed up, and
it goes back to that late sixties, sixties and seventies
went off the tracks nineteen sixty five. There you go.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's I also think it's very easy
to make people, to get some people to cheer this on.
Boomers are going for the most part, boomers don't have
any problems. They've they're sitting on wealth in their house.
They're sitting on wealth and a lot of different things.
Of course, not every boomer, yes, I know, you know,
but the there are some young people who will just
because you know, they've never really had a win in
their life, they're looking at this somewhat. I would say
they're using this as a proxy for oh, look, you know,
the United States is doing all these great things, so
they just they they're not going to believe that they're
that there's any possibility that one that the US could
come out on the bottom here too, that the US
could possibly be the bad guy here because you know,
they they need to live in a superhero.
Speaker 2: Movie and maybe maybe we're the baddies.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's they're you're not when you're in a
very much like because we become so judaized, we're just
just like they're not allowed to admit they ever did
anything wrong. We've adopted that same premise where in Christian
society historically that wasn't the case. People understood morality and immorality,
and they also looked upon their enemy in many cases
with great honor. That they honored their enemy. They wanted
to defeat them, but they defeated them with honor. And
the way the people who have influenced the society, they
don't they don't treat their enemies like that. They have
no respect for them whatsoever. They treat them as subhuman.
So that is one of the reasons why we have
no respect for enemies. And it seems like whenever the
United States goes into anything now it is just assumed
from the beginning to be total war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no honor. It's like we can bomb them
during peace talks. And look, look how clever we are.
The Israelis are proud of putting explosives in pagers. I'm
distributing him throughout the community, letting him blow up. And
then if that that community doesn't want to buy pages
from Jews anymore, they're called anti Semites.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Jonathan Green, Yes, I was looking at
something just a little while ago where he said that
if you say that this, if you say that this
war is being fought for Jews, you're anti Semitic. If
you say that this war is being fought was caused
by Israel, you're being anti Semitic. And basically anything in
any way trying to equate this mission with Israel or
the Jews. You're an anti semi and you probably deserve
you probably deserve a pagier. You know, you should probably
be a sense of page er.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you somehow think that we're the confident with Iran,
it says something to you Jews in Israel. You're an
anti semi. You know, also means you're a sentient being.
That's all.
Speaker 1: Well, had a mouthful there.
Speaker 2: Now, I was listening to album getting back to that
sort of what's wrong with our society again the Pearl
Davis was saying, she doesn't argue against abortion anymore because
it's she doesn't see any point to it, and she
this isn't a disparage sidewalk counselors. These people that hang
on in front of abortion vincent. I'm trying to just
story to him from killing their unboard child. They've saved
a lot of lives. But she said, just the argument
doesn't work because they don't care people. They don't really care.
And she's not going to really make a difference there
because attacking abortion directly, I understand why you do it,
by someone do because it's the killing of the unborn
child and all that, but really abortion is a symptom
of a greater problem and you're really not gonna put
a in the abortion rate or you get rid of
abortion because it's a function of emancipated women, meaning that
if women are if there's such thing, is a quality
between the sexes when there isn't. So it's a fantasy.
But the only way you indulge that fantasy is because
women bear children, they have their obligation, they have the responsibility,
that the duty if you will the capacity to bear children.
That's when you create a certain amount of obligation on
their part, duties and rights the stem from that. But
if you create a situation where they think they should
be liberated from that through either through contraception or for
eventually abortion, and they should be able to be equal
to men, you're going to have to have abortion. It's inevitable.
It goes with the territory, it goes with the presumptions,
the attitude towards life and what they think their role
in life is. So you're really not going to get
rid of something like abortion until you de emancipate women.
And that sounds harsh, but it's true and just almost something.
If you have such a society where women are quote emancipated,
I mean they go out and pursue careers and so
called education, your birth rate is going to plummet. And
part of that plummeting birth rate is a higher abortion rate.
It's inevitable. So until you address that, until you get
women under control. And the way, patrician how they've been
brought under control is through religious observance rules, a series
of proscriptions and prescriptions that we all live under. Of course,
this means that men. As I kind of loved to earlier,
men are also under the same restricts because men are
then obligated to provide and that's going to impinge on
their freedom. If you live in a country where pursuit
of happiness and individual liberty is will guide everybody, it's
sort of the load star is what we shoot for. Well,
having children, having a baby, being pregnant, having a baby,
taking care of baby is going to pinge on your
pursuit of happiness from time to time, and it's going
to make demands on your liberty. And again, then what
we're dealing with is the problems we're dealing with today
in America today, whether it's the generousy and fantaside, abortion,
the moral anarchy, it's a function of the American spirit itself,
which is born of revolution and part of the idea
of the pursuit of happiness and the pursuit of liberty
without any guiding morality. You know. And there was a
time when America was sort of guided by a general Christianity.
They all kind of accept it, but that e wrote
it over time under sort of the it was the
solvent of liberalism. So we're kind of we've reached the
sort of the reduction at absurtain one of the American experiment,
and that's a hard pill for people to swallow, partecularly
if they're not religiously minded. If you're a Catholic, you
can kind of take America put it, be more ambivalent
about it, because it's always been sort of anti Catholic
in a sense. But America Geran thought of a sort
of an Anglo Protestant state. And the crisis we're experiencing
now sort of the collapse of Protestantism. And I do
agree with you, Michael Jones, is sort of there's an
identity crisis now, you know. And so now when we
talk about the decline of the West, you know, the
West was defeated at Stalingrad, and you know nineteen forty
three January February nineteen forty three. Well yet you know
the same way, well, the Western civilization and when the
Roman Empire collapsed, no sort of something arose from what
there was a dialectic. So something's going to come from this.
It's just it's all in God's hands. In the meantime,
we have to do what's right. Let's ships follow they may,
but there's a reason for it, there's an order to it,
and what we're experienced. We have to go through this process.
And as you study history, the broader history, at very
at least you see these cycles in history age, you
don't take these events personally, however painful they may be.
So I don't know if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: But so, no, I mean you're yeah, I know we
were being at least I was being kind of snarky
for a lot of this, but thank you for bringing
it back and yeah, getting serious, Yeah, because this is
this is like at this point, it's you You almost
have to have some humor about what's going on because
of just how yeah, how I mean it's horrible already,
but how potentially horrible this could be.
Speaker 2: Yes, you could really get out of control, and you
get the sense of that they're they're idiots in charge,
at least they think they're in charge. I like to
think there's someone further back, some great evidence, conducting this
all and it's going to roll it back a little bit. Okay,
gone too far? No, but yeah, and the fact, yeah,
it's not to despair because these things have to work
themselves out. And I think it was Oscar Wilde said
something the fact that life's too important to be take
and seriously.
Speaker 1: So we definitely are definitely being ruled by people who
don't want us to take it seriously, but they seem
to be taking it deadly seriously.
Speaker 2: Certainly do Jews take it seriously. Yeah, they take themselves
very seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But when you point that out and you say, well,
you know, if they're taking it very seriously and there
are adversaries and we need to start taking things seriously,
that's anti semitism.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, own it if you want to use
that term. Doesn't mean much anymore.
Speaker 1: But no, it's.
Speaker 2: It's a consequence of anti semitism, the consequence of his
following current.
Speaker 1: Events, paying attention, yes, reading his reading history.
Speaker 2: I think Heim white Spin said that something to that effect.
It's perfectly natural, it's based on it's a response to
juice behavior. Him white Span, the first president of Israel,
said that, So I just quote them.
Speaker 1: I have been informed that if you quote them as
anti semitism unless you're unless you're absolutely you know, praising them,
praising them for the things they say, not pointing out
Oh they just said the quiet part out loud. Well,
that's saying that they said the quiet part out loud
is anti semitism. If you said, if you praised what
they said out loud, that wouldn't be anti semitism. I
think they hate I think they actually hate it more
when you when you don't, when you're like I don't care.
I remember after October seventh, the people who were saying
how horrible what happened that day, they were friends of
the Jews, and the people who are like, yeah, you know,
you brought this upon yourselves, Well, the Jews would address them,
but they need that if you understand properly that they
want people to say that because that helps them. Praising
them helps them, openly defying them helps them. But if
you're just like, eh, I don't care, I think they
hate that even more because they can't use that.
Speaker 2: Because they're the center of the universe.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Tim, Where can people find you?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, good talking to you always. Good uh
to catch catching up and take care of yourself. Have
a good night, okay, good night.
Speaker 2: To take it easy. Pete M. M h h