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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Chris bamber Bauer and you're listening

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to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast with my

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friends Jason Colvin and James D. Graves Party On Dudes.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast Special Edition Five Minutes of Fire. We

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are here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start

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the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes

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at a time, which is about to link with the song,

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so it works out kind of nicely. So please join

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us as we dive into some new lyrics today.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, So here are the topics that we're

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going to be covering today. Tuscanini, Docron, d NBN, food,

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falls and rock around the Clock. Around the Clock.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, tell me what you can about Tuscanini. All right.

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Speaker 3: Hero Tuscanini was an Italian conductor once can I get

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the Conductors and is known as one of the most

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acclaimed musicians of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. Was known

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for his intensity, perfectionism, musical ear, and photographic memory. Was

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called the greatest conductor in the world by Benito Mussolini.

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In nineteen nineteen, but in nineteen thirty one he refused

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to conduct a Fascist piece and was forced to leave Italy.

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From there, he moved to New York became the conductor

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of the New York Opera House. Later became the conductor

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of the NBC Symphony Orchestra. Here's the interesting thing. In

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nineteen fifteen, he will returned to Italy was booked on

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the Lusitania liner. This was sunk by the Germans and

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effectively started World War One.

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Speaker 2: Our entry into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it got America involved, but he had to

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make a change at the last second and took a

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different ship. He's actually known and kind of as an

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innovator because he would conduct opera on the radio, for

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live broadcasting and for records. In nineteen forty six, he

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returns to Milan and in the city's most famous opera house,

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Life Oscala. He inaugurated the theaters first season after World

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War Two, after it had been bombed in nineteen forty three.

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Tuscanini returned to conduct it after sixteen years in exile,

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and it is basically thought of as the beginning of

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Italy's reconstruction. Died January sixteenth, nineteen fifty seven at the

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age of eighty nine. All Right, d what can you

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tell me about dacron?

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Speaker 2: Dacron or polyethylene tarifthalate is what you and I know

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as polyester. Jason, did you know that you can take

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old plastic bottles and turn them into clothes?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what happened in nineteen fifty four. It

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became the new wonder material. It hit the market, and

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then just twenty years later, John Revolta was wearing a

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white polyester suit pitting that dance move for all of

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us to see in Saturday Night Fever. Be sure and

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go check out our Saturday Night Fever episode. All right, Jason,

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what can you tell me about dnbien Pugh and Wyatt

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fell So.

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Speaker 3: Dmbienfu is a reference to the climactic battle between March thirteenth,

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nineteen fifty four and May seventh, nineteen fifty four. It

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was fought between the French Union Colonial Far East Expeditionary

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Corps and the Viet Min Communist revolutionaries. So the French

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had established a stronghold at d'en bien Fu in late

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November of nineteen fifty three. They were trying to disrupt

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the trade lines between China and Laos, which were both

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communists at this time. So after a while it did

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not disrupt the trade route, and this stronghold was surrounded

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by the Viet min The final assault came May first,

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nineteen fifty four. Viet Minh took it over. That ended

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the First Indo China War. All right, Dee, what can

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you tell me about Rock around the clock? One, two,

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three o'clock, four o'clock Rock said, seven o'clock, Hey o'clock.

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Speaker 2: R Well, I can tell you that it is by

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Bill Haley and the Commets. I think it's cool that

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Billy Joel has given us in all of this history,

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he's also given us a history of rock and roll. Now,

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Bill Haley had grown up loving country music. Also born

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blind in one eye. He got a recording label and

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they said, we want you guys to record a version

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of the song Rocket eighty eight. But Bill Haley was like,

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this is an R and B song and we're a

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white guy band. What are we doing here? And he's like,

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I really think this is going to do something great. Well,

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they put a little boogie to it, they put a

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little country style to it, and they released it and

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it is now considered probably the first rock and roll

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song that was released. That song just sold a few

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thousand copies regionally where it was but Bill Haley continued

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using this kind of formula of taking R and B songs,

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putting some country twang to it, and developing this because

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all of the younger teenagers really loved this style of

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music and they were trying to appeal to the crowd

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that was buying their music. Rock around the Clock was

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another song that they released, but it only sold about

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seventy five thousand copies when it first got released. What

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happens then is they released the song Shake, Rattle, End Roll,

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which becomes a huge hit for them, which then results

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in Rock around the Clock being part of the closing

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credits in the very famous movie The Blackboard Jungle. That

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reinvigorated the song. People became obsessed with it, they re

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released it, and it became the biggest hit for Bill

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Haley in the comments of their career. He went on

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to lots of fame, but ultimately, because of bad business decisions,

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he ended up owing money to the irs having no

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money and spent the next twenty years trying to pay

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this back. But then in nineteen seventy four song becomes

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famous again when it is the intro song to a

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TV show we all grew up with called Happy Days

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You got It. Fortunately, by that time, his irs debts

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had been paid back and so when it hit the

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charts again, he got all that money and was able

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to not die in poverty. Okay, guys, that does it

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for today's episode. Join us next time for five minutes

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of fire. Hey guys, we hope you enjoyed the episode.

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