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Will Kyle continue to coach or 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,000 will he step into his assistance to the Presidents and 24 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:18,760 Associate Athletic Director role and make three point four to 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,959 five million a year for the next couple of years. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Does he want to coach or does he want to 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,400 be an AD or an assistant AD. Let's get into 28 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:28,760 It's gonna be brought to you by Orthropros of Utah 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,879 and American Fork. 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What were some of 41 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:04,200 the takeaways from the media round up with Kyle, what 42 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:05,200 do you have yesterday? 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: There's a few This toll Suga has been so weird, 44 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:12,840 even going back to last week, right, I'm stepping down, 45 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,960 and then right after that hits the Athletic reports that 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,960 he is interested in coaching. Still, so I'm glad we 47 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:21,000 finally got the year from Kyle. I know a lot 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,599 of people have made something of the fact there wasn't 49 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:27,520 a press conference to address with stepping down and then 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,080 Scaley being officially named the head coach. I didn't make 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,840 a ton of that, just because we knew we'd get 52 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:35,400 media availability with them, and the fact that they're waiting 53 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:38,159 till after the Bowl game with Scally, I think makes 54 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:39,639 a lot of sense to me. But I know some 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,599 people have talked about that kind of thing as it 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,280 came to the Nuggets. I mean, look, he sounds like 57 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,479 a guy who still wants to coach. I would also say, 58 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:49,520 though at what level and in what capacity? I'm sure 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,800 we'll talk about all the Michigan stuff here in a moment. 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,439 To me, that makes a lot of sense, right, wanting 61 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:57,560 to coach at Michigan and that as it's been reported, 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,319 and I've heard the same thing, he absolutely does top 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,360 five to ten job in the country with the resources 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Michigan has. I think it's the top five job in 65 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,120 the countries. I think that's why he's interested in going there. 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,319 But what other level of jobs he would take. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,319 Speaker 3: That's why I think it's more like NFL. 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Guys, what he said yesterday, Like you said, I'm a 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,879 free agent, I'm in the transfer portal. Listen to him talk. 70 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,280 He says, he with what happened that you saw? So 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,800 what does that mean? I'm not entirely sure, JT. 72 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: We have some connection issues. You're kind of hit. It's 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,599 like hit and miss a little bit with your with 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,560 your connection real quick, Ronald. I don't know if you're 75 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:37,120 seeing it on your end, but I just wanted to 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,159 get you a breast of that. I don't know if 77 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:42,080 you're in a specific location. But let's, uh, let's see 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,879 if we can get him dialed in. 79 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: JT. Is still there, buddy, Yes, yeah, still here? 80 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so you yeah, continue there, JT. You 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,120 were kind of hit and miss there. 82 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:54,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just saying this whole thing with Kyle Whittingham, right, 83 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:57,400 he said, I'm a free agent, I'm in the transferport Now. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 He doesn't sound to me like a guy who wants 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 to retire. Now, is he a guy who wants to 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,280 take any college coaching job. I don't think so. I 87 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,000 think he's a guy whould love to go to Michigan, 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,960 as has been reported. I think there's NFL jobs that 89 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,680 would appeal to him because I think he'd be much 90 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:15,719 more inclined to the lifestyle of the NFL calendar than 91 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:18,680 just the average college coaching job. Now, Michigan's chance to 92 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,480 win a national championship me would appeal to him. But 93 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:23,639 throughout this whole process, right, you know, he even says 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,560 I'm a peace with stepping down. He talks about how 95 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,079 we wanted to come back this year and not go 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,120 out last year. So this has been a really interesting saga. 97 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,000 But he doesn't sound like he's at peace with the decision. 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,959 But it's been strange how we got here. 99 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: It truly has been awkward. 100 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,079 Speaker 1: In strange. 101 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: Look, this is a guy that it's obvious he still 102 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,759 wants to coach. Will he take a G six job, 103 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:49,519 Will he only take a PEE four job? Will he 104 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,519 take an assistant head coach defensive coordinating job? Does he 105 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,480 want to look to the NFL? Are all options on 106 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,000 the table. 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't see G six job. 108 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,920 I see NFL like advisor more than coach. I'd say, 109 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:11,279 I think the Michigan job is just different. The Michigan job, 110 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:13,879 like you said, that's the chance to win a national championship. 111 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:17,839 That's something that gets you reinvigorated, right those other jobs, 112 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:21,920 like Kyle Whittingham has already accomplished everything a G six 113 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,560 job could possibly achieve, with the maybe exception of making 114 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,839 the playoffs. But with that, he'd be better off at 115 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,519 a Utah just like that at a Michigan anyways. Right, So, 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,439 and I also believe this, like there's a reason this 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,199 whole thing now Kyle Whittingham and an interest in coming 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,920 back in and everything. He's a guy who hasn't made 119 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,000 at Utah, and I and as people in place to 120 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:46,199 help him with the things that it takes to run 121 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,720 a college football program. I think if it's Michigan, right, 122 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:53,879 he's okay with I have to do more. I don't 123 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:55,480 get the sense that he'd want to go to just 124 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,480 any college job, especially one that doesn't give him the 125 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,480 resources to win at the highest level. And now it's oh, 126 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,759 you have to do more at this place and you 127 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,279 don't have a chance of a good opportunity to win 128 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:08,639 as you did even at Utah. To me, this is 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,759 a guy who's still going to retire from coaching, whether 130 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,800 it's completely or just like we said, maybe he continues 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,360 in that NFL assistant type of role. I don't think 132 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:22,800 Whittingham wants to be in May, just whatever month you 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,480 pick in the off season, going into the office each 134 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:27,800 and every single day. That's where we talked about. At Utah, 135 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,240 he had things in place and people that could help 136 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:32,160 him do that. If he goes through a lot of 137 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:34,240 these other jobs, he has to do all of that 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,600 and do more than he was doing at Utah. To me, 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,519 he is still a guy that's getting closer to retirement, 140 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,240 and I think it's Michigan job for him, or NFL 141 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,600 administrative assistant or something like that. I do not see 142 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:49,319 him being a G six coach, But there appears to 143 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,279 still be a passion to stay in the world of football. 144 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,639 But does that mean he will do whatever it takes 145 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,240 a stay in football. I don't think so. 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: Do you think there's any enmity between Kyle Harlan the 147 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:07,000 presidency there at the you that would lead him to say, 148 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,360 you know, I don't want this, this sweetheart deal you've 149 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:13,480 given me for the next two years at three point 150 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,120 four to five million. I'm gonna go code somewhere else. 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,120 I'm gonna win. I'm gonna show you guys that with 152 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:22,360 you know, with support, with resources, that I can win 153 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,720 at the highest levels in college football. 154 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's that's a really tough one, right because there's 155 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:34,160 been a lot of speculation already on that relationship. Obviously, 156 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:37,000 Morgan already did put something out by just congratulating with 157 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,040 on their career, and those guys have been together so long. 158 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:42,839 I gotta believe that relationship is still pretty strong. I'll 159 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,360 also say I think it's very fair to wonder if 160 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:48,879 Kyle Whittingham came back to Utah for another year, would 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Morgan Sally have come back too, Not because of any animosity, 162 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,680 because Morgan Scalley, I do believe had outside interest. This 163 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:58,480 has been one of the top defensive coordinators in the 164 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,040 country for years, and when you have the level of 165 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,639 success that Utah has had as a P four team, 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,040 usually your coordinators eventually get an opportunity to be a 167 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:10,399 head coach or an elite coordinator. Someone else Morgan's was 168 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:14,000 in the past, He's passed Ben a good soldier, knowing 169 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:16,920 he'd be the head coach in waiting. I think last 170 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:18,560 year it was like, all right, let's do one more 171 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:21,000 year of this. It's reported it was supposed to be 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 his final year last year, but he wanted to come 173 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:25,120 back go out on a higher doubt, which I mean, 174 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,680 he didn't he make a bowl game last year? How 175 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,959 crazy was that? Right? Still when it's a built like 176 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,480 that was forever ago with what the Utah team was 177 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:33,440 able to achieve this past season. 178 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,879 Speaker 3: So Morgan was a good soldier then. 179 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,399 Speaker 1: I do think Morgan felt like it was his time 180 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,480 to face something. It just seems like Morgan and Kyle 181 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:42,240 it was going to be one or the other in 182 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:44,879 terms of who was the moving forward at Utah. I 183 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:47,799 have just had a hard time believing that Morgan's sally 184 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:50,159 was going to be down to be the Utah defensive 185 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:53,480 coordinator once and instead of going and chasing either a 186 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,080 head coach opportunity or being a higher paid coordinator, because 187 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,600 I do think some of the top jobs in the 188 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,720 country would have wanted him for all that he's accomplished. 189 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,759 So cover I feel like the relationship is still good there, 190 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:09,080 but I think it's it's understandable the question how did 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,840 this all play out? Because it has been such a 192 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,559 weird trajectory, I'm curious what will come out. And you know, 193 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,200 obviously Morgan and Kyle they're still in the same building together, 194 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:20,799 So I feel like these are good overall. 195 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,639 Speaker 3: But I think there's. 196 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Definitely a chance that Kyle wanted to come back to 197 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,200 one more years. There's also a chance. 198 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: That he was content to shut down and run off 199 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,440 into the sunset and retirement. And as he was running 200 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,279 off of the sunset out of the court, he noticed 201 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,440 the whole situation going on at Michigan and one of 202 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:37,720 the top five jobs. 203 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: In the country is open. Remember this is the winningham turned. 204 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: Down the opportunity to go to Tennessee long ago. 205 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:46,159 Speaker 1: When you turn down Tennessee and stay a Utah, you're 206 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 turning down a chance to win a national championship. Now, 207 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:52,600 obviously you're also keeping yourself in a more safe job. 208 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,960 So Kyle still made a good choice. But now he's 209 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,039 got a chance to go to Michigan and really compete 210 00:09:57,039 --> 00:09:59,080 for a national title. And I think that a feels 211 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,080 to him a lot. But yeah, I think it's fair 212 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:03,320 to wonder how that relationship is as it relates to 213 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,080 cause administrative assistance at this moment. Honey shocked if that 214 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,360 was what he was doing next year. 215 00:10:08,519 --> 00:10:11,039 Speaker 3: He seems like a football coach. He talks about the 216 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,039 juice is still. 217 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: There and I expect him to involve on the football 218 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,480 field in some capacity. 219 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: J T Wistersil, JT appreciate you hopping on great insight, 220 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,960 great knowledge, best way to support you. What you do, 221 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,960 how you do it for all of our listeners. 222 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys can check me out of that lockedown 223 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,159 youth on YouTube. I'm pax or at JT WISTERSIL as well. 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Appreciate the time, Ben. 225 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: Thanks, JT appreciate you. 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