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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this so marches right around the corner

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and the Cougars are in the metal of it. It's

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time to talk some college basketball on Cougar Sports with

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Speaker 3: Lots to get into as we talked.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a ton of football today, but we do like

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to dedicate our Tuesday afternoons to some college hoops with

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our man Man, the Brazilian Bomber. We'll get to him

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about going into a space in your home and cleaning

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and organizing it and it becoming an orderly place, right

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rather than a chaotic place, A cleanly place. Uh, there's

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something really satisfying about that. A job well done.

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Speaker 4: I hate, I totally agree, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And but I will say this, you know, I definitely understand,

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you know, with you and the missions, you guys are

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super busy and so, you.

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Speaker 4: Done by these guys, you know, and they're really good.

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Speaker 1: I think that's phenomenal and so but hey, you know,

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we're not here to talk about, you know, becoming daisy maids.

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We're talking We're talking about basketball because you know, nothing

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has really happened in the football world of BUYU the

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last forty eight hours, you know.

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Speaker 4: So let's just talk about basketball.

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Speaker 2: Ben love this, Let's talk to some who But hey,

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give your thoughts real quick on the Kalonishatocki retention and

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the future of BAU football.

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Speaker 5: You know, so I much like you, I know a

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little bit more than the average person. And that's just

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because you know.

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Speaker 1: Who we are and everything that we've done, and so

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to be able to see how everything unraveled and and

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the way that that everything's played out.

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Speaker 4: You know, probably the only thing.

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Speaker 1: That I will say, Ben, is, you know, the tidening

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of it always a little bit interesting.

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Speaker 5: Just because you know, and I would love to have

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you answer me this.

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Speaker 1: You know, is buyu's game coming up this Saturday or

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one of the top five most important games in program history?

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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt about it, much hints. I mean, look,

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we weren't able to We have not been to get

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over the hump into elites. That is similar to like

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similar to basketball. Basketball is the team that has gone

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to the NCAA Tournament the most without seeing a final

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four BYU football, I think has won more football games

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since nineteen seventy two. Well, let's go into the modernor

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since like nineteen ninety six, and has not been able

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to get over the hump to a bcs KAI type

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of championship game, a college football playoff game. Everybody else

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has seen and reaped the rewards of great to elite

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college football play in a season, we always kind of

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sit right there in the great but not elite eleven

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and two, eleven and two, eleven and two, eleven and

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two so often eleven and one. Remember in twenty twenty

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we were on the knocking on the door and we

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lost to Tacosta Carolina. We were right there, you know,

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and we just can't seem to get over the hump.

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I hope this is the year that we get over

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the hump.

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Speaker 4: And I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 5: And so that is probably the only thing that I

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will say that that to me is just a little

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bit odd, and that is.

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Speaker 4: You know, why now, why go through all of this? Now?

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Speaker 1: And so but again, none of us ben know every

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single possible detail of everything, and so we can all

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speculate and that is insane, you know, and you've been

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you probably know way more.

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Speaker 4: Than anybody else around here.

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Speaker 1: But that is the only possible thing that I would say,

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is I just the timing of it for me is odd.

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Aside from that band, we both know Kalan, and you

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know him much better than I do. I you know,

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when I was in Disneyland and I saw him and

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you and I talked about this.

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Speaker 4: He went out of his way to make me feel loved,

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to make me feel appreciated.

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Speaker 1: And it was just around the time that he did

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his devotional talk and you know the title that he said, Is.

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Speaker 2: It true that he said you have the quickest shot

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release and be your basketball history?

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, he and the only one saying that. Yeah,

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but it now, Hey, Stevie Wonder can see that.

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Speaker 5: And the man is blind, or at least that's what they.

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Speaker 1: Say, right, So come on and so, but I would

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say this Ben like listening to Killannie, like I wanted

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to put some pads in. I wanted to put a

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helmet in. I was ready to run through a wall

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for the men and so, and we know the type

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of man he is. He was absolutely you know, and

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knowing a little bit more like you and I do,

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knowing little details about what's happening with him with Khy,

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with the program no way shaite perform.

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Speaker 5: He was like, Hey, match what I just got. And

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not only he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Saying that, but he was asking for Hey, let's take

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care of all of our guys so we can keep this,

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this this train going.

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Speaker 4: And so that's the type of man that he is right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, after seeing everything, you know, the only

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negative things that I have to say about not Kilane

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about the entire process is the timing of it for

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me is funny, but it's it's very well deserving.

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Speaker 3: None of the less love that uh, and I'm excited that.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of us have our our specific interpersonal

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anecdotes with Kalani. He goes about ministering and making everyone

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feel special. He's got a he's got a photographic memory

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as well, and all of that aids him and making

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us all feel like we're lifting where we stand and

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we're supporting Cougar athletics.

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Speaker 3: UH, the best way that we can. Let's talk some

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Speaker 2: Look, I've said this and it is kind of piggybacking

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off this colonial take news.

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Speaker 3: I wrote a piece last night.

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Speaker 2: I said, look, you know b YU basketball and Brian

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Santiago set the presidents for what we're willing and capable

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of of of investing in our athletic programs, in our UH,

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in our in our flagship programs b YU men's basketball

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and BAU football.

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Speaker 3: Like he's set the standard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he brought in Ky paid him a lot

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of money right, got it approved in an NBA staff.

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We got the Phoenix Suns nutritionists, we got the Milwaukee

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Bucks strength and additioning staff. We have the mental performance

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staff from Milwaukee Bucks. We got G League, we got

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EuroLeague coaches. We have a robust infrastructure. And then on

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top of that, we have nil investment, a robust nil

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investment that is probably at worst top twenty five, At

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best it's top ten.

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Speaker 3: So that's the bar. So that's what we see. And

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so we're like, wait, well, what's where's BYU at in

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this mix?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Where's BYU football at in the mix?

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Speaker 2: And so now we're seeing Okay, now the investment is

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the just investment is going to what drives the ship.

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Speaker 3: JT.

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Speaker 2: I know it hurts to say it, but football drives

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the ship. Are you surprised at the investment? Hold on, No,

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we surprised at the investment that BYU just made.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's fan base to the driver of the

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ship at b YU.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, let me I'm gonna put a

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little bit of that Devil's advo Kate here.

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Speaker 5: You know, I love you, you and I go back.

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Speaker 4: We know each other longer than our wives.

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Speaker 5: No, no what so so come on now, you know

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we go back, you know, and I are tight right.

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Speaker 1: Don't the way Brian Santiago has been position at this

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whole situation, I don't agree with. I don't agree with

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at all because here's the situation. How do we not

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know that all of this was going to get done?

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Do any of us actually know for a fact when

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Elder Rathbend was contacted, if and when he was contacted?

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Speaker 4: Do we know how everything unraveled? And the answer is

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we do not? Okay, And so now again, I absolutely

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love Kilane. Okay, and none of what I'm.

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Speaker 5: About to say is that football doesn't deserve you know.

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Speaker 1: Deserves it's sproped and that football shouldn't be having what

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they're having right now. How do we know that this

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wasn't going to happen because Brian Santiago, well excuse me,

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Tom Homo.

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Speaker 4: Okay uh and the athletic.

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Speaker 5: Department took care of Kilany last year.

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Speaker 4: Now, I am you've seen social media.

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Speaker 5: You and Ron have seen social media a lot.

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Speaker 4: I showed a lot of support to Kilane. I love Kilane.

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Speaker 1: I think Kilani should be getting everything else he is getting.

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And then some but the heat that Brian Santiago is getting.

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I don't think it's I don't think it's deserving because Brian.

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Speaker 3: Should know what he is getting.

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Speaker 2: All I saw was Brian set the president the presidents

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for for investment in basketball, and then he became the

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A D. And now I mean, look, he hasn't been

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ad all that long overseeing football, and now when when

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when it came down to it, he's willing to advocate

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and invest into b y football as you did basketball.

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Speaker 3: So that that was my carry that.

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Speaker 4: But but but by you saying, come on, JT. It

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drives the ship.

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Speaker 3: It drives the ship like r you know you've always

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said basketball is is?

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Speaker 4: Uh is?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's your jam like they drive the football.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on now, hey, Ron Weaver the third,

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go on and pull up all the audios because I

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Speaker 4: Said that football drives the ship. Now hold up now,

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I always said that.

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Speaker 5: Hell I do have to say that.

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Speaker 3: He has said, look, we want the football. Does we

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know football is intelligion?

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Speaker 4: They running?

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Speaker 3: He has said that. I can't confirm it, and.

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Speaker 1: Not only Dad, because I wasn't in a privileged position

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that I got to do an internship. My entire senior

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year where I shadowed and followed Tom Homo, and I

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got to work close to Dallan move, I got to

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work close with Chad william, I got to work firsthand

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with Chad Lewis, I got to see all of the

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ins and outs of the athletic department. So I would

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be the biggest school in the galaxy. For me to

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say that BYU is a basketball school. Now, BYU, and

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I've told you this, BYU football would have to implode

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to epic proportions, and BYU basketball would have to win

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the national championship to even make a dant on BYU

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becoming a basketball school. And so my point of this

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whole thing is I never doubted for a second that

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Brian in the athletic department in BYU were going to

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get something done right. And you never doubted that's because

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that's everybody knows that BYU football drives the ship.

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Speaker 4: Brian himself said right.

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Speaker 1: And so I fully, I fully believe that BYU football

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is getting exactly what they deserve and they should probably

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get even more. And I say that because football drives

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the ship, because one so owt Lavelle Edwards game means

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that you have to do three sold out BYU basketball games.

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The math is very simple on this, and so and

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so whats when your football team goes to the college

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football playoffs. The playoffs are much much bigger.

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Speaker 5: Than if your team wins the NCAA Final Four.

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Speaker 4: So it's a simple math situation, right.

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Speaker 5: And so now what I will.

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Speaker 1: Say, and I completely agree with this, you know, on

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the sort I'm looking for on the not the flow,

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but on the talk track, which is BYU football, BYU basketball.

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Speaker 4: Set the bar because Kilani was.

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Speaker 1: Making more than Kevin Young got hired and he was

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making here and Kilane was making a little bit more.

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Kalani did have a heck of a season and got

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a raise, Kevin Young got a heck of a season,

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got a bigger raise, and now Tilani had another. They're

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amazing historic seasons. And now Kilani is simply saying, look,

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we got to keep this going. We got to match

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to where things are.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's totally fair.

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Speaker 1: Again, I'm a total defender of everything that Kilanie has

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asked and at everything.

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Speaker 5: The only positive Little Black got I can put on

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all of this. Ben and as a player been we've.

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Speaker 1: Talked about this one football game has the way of

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about ten basketball games. You and I have talked about

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this before. Tell me if what I'm saying is crazy.

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As a player, do you think that every single every

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single player in that locker room right now, they have.

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Speaker 4: Been at beast this entire week?

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Speaker 3: Have they been a beast? Is that what you said?

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Speaker 5: Have they been at beast at east?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: At at peace? No?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I think they were. You know,

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I think they saw maybe Saturday nights into Sunday. If

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they monitor social media, their parents, their family friends monitors

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social media, they begin to not be at peace in

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through Monday. I think I think Kilani tried to placate

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some of those anxieties in their traditional pre practice meeting

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right and probably you know, during and after practice. I

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think he assured the coaching staff and the players everything's

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gonna work out. But I don't think they were peaceful.

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But now they are, I mean, now they're they're yacked, man.

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They are excited. They're gonna engage with fervor, this opportunity

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to win a big world championship, to go to the

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COLLG football playoff.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the timing is just right.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think that that's where I'm not gonna

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totally disagree with you. I just don't know right And

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and I think that instead of saying, man, I disagree

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with you, the timing is terrible, what I will say

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has been I don't know if the timing is the best.

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be yacked and excited and bee and I'm gonna have

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you know that critle courage to just you know, just

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go ahead and get that Weaver win, right, however else

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you want to paint this. But what I'm gonna say is,

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I don't know if it was the best sign. That

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is my only thing, the only negative thing that I

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have to say. But you know, aside from that Ben

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on the Kilaney front, I have a hard time believing

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that there is a better person to lead this football team.

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Speaker 4: And I love them in I think the world of him.

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I think he truly is one of one and I'm

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grateful that he's on our side, no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: B YU basketball, where do we stand right now? What's

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the latest? And know Dawson Baker had that left knee injury.

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It looks like he's sustained in ACL injury and anti

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your cruise shit ligament injury.

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll be out for the season.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's got a red shirt available if

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I'm not mistaken, so that his career seemingly is done

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at b YU, Nate Pickens is out, You're god line

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is getting whittled down?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean for BYU basketball this season?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I've said this for a very long time. You know,

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not everybody has agreed with me. But one of the

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things that I will say, Ben is to me, this

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is the perfect moment where I if I had the

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say on any of this stuff, what I would personally

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do is I would figure out a way to get

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Aj to become a little bit more, a little bit

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more point guard dominant, because there is a way that

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you can make sure that him and Robert Wright are

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playing off each other of being on the court and

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so that they are the two primary ball handlers. They

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already are, we know that, and so, but I would

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try to figure out a way to have Aj, you know,

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be the secondary ball had Kindler behind Robert Wright. And

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you know, I know, Ron, you and I have talked

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about this a lot. AJ Tracy McGrady ag comparisons.

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Speaker 4: I still think that.

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Speaker 1: The AJ has the potential to be much more like

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Penny Hardaway and Tam Mac more than he has the

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potential to be a Cavin Garnett and a Team Mac.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you wanted to chime in on that, Ronald,

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but you know, like I'm all in on it. Look

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as far as the we've discussed this on the show

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with Nate Pickens injury, You're like, Okay, well, who's going

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to be a primary ball handler behind Rob right the third?

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You look at what you have available. C Dawson's has

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play point guard, but he's more of a shooting guard.

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shots and transition from the wing, but he can't handle.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely a score.

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Speaker 5: To me.

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Speaker 2: What you're losing Dawson Baker is his uncanny ability to score.

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Speaker 3: His obviously spot up shooting as well.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see his release be a little

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bit quicker, but he's got good mechanics.

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Speaker 3: He's a good score. He's a great shooter. You lose

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out on that, you know. Coastick, I don't know what

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his status is.

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Speaker 2: He looked a little bit shaky early on with his handle,

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but he can shoot it. You know, maybe he steps up,

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maybe he's the replacement for Dawson Baker as more of

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a shooting guard and that quick release coming off the

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bench and being the sixth man.

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Speaker 3: But Aj, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Being a distributor, a playmaker, a ball handler, get him

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the ball anyway you can. That dude is so special,

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just one of a kind to.

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Speaker 6: Hop in here, Ben, because uh, JT and I've talked

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about this, I agree with JT stake the more goes

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on of the Penny Hardaway just of how you know

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he's able to score and like get and play it

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all three levels in quite frankly, the defense. This is

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none against te Meg, but I think the way Hardaway

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could guard compared to Tracy McGrady was a little bit

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different in that way that we're talking about. But I

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think with Costache with Alexi, confidence I think is the

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biggest thing being because the shots there, like you, you

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can't guard that. Like Kevin Young said that if you

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leave him open or if you don't find him, like

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Steph Curry, he'll burn you. And not saying he's Steph,

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but that's what he can do.

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Speaker 4: He's best off ball.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, if he's gonna be better on ball,

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that might have to be a skill he develops. But

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he's gonna have to step up, Like there's not they

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have no choice. Ben, when you look at the depth

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of the roster, aj can have it more in his hands,

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but Alexi's gonna play based on now merit and like

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what has happened, So he's gonna have to step up

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and figure it out. He can dribble, but he's a

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better shooter than he is. But if there's anybody I trust,

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and I think j T would agree with me, I

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trust his staff to figure it out. But Alexi's gonna

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have to play because they literally now have to turn

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to him when Rob goes to the bench.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which which to me one thing that I'm gonna

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add to what Ron said to me.

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Speaker 1: This whole thing is interesting because you know, as we

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look at pedigree, right, when you look at pedigree, Elected

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may have the the one of the biggest pedigrees out

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of everybody on this team. I mean, he was getting

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massive minutes in the Adriatic League. It's not like he

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was playing at you know, community college Boo Boo State University.

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Speaker 4: He was playing at a really high level in Europe.

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Speaker 1: And so for him to not be getting playing times

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at the beginning, I was pretty surprised about that.

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Speaker 4: And so but as as he gets.

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Speaker 5: Like Ron said, you know, necessary, not necessarily by.

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Speaker 1: Merit, but because of necessity. It's interesting to see how

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that's going to unravel the b YU season because they

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are in a situation that they need them point blank.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Tabinari on the l like Cougar Sports one of

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three nine ninety eight point three ESPN, the fans talking

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by U basketball, Uh, what's up next for the b

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y U basketball team?

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Speaker 3: And uh, how will they uh.

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Speaker 2: The momentum that they created in Orlando to continue their

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winning ways? What are we looking forward to? Give me

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a little scattering report on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Jt Oh, I'm looking to see what bu Yu does

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a game.

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Speaker 3: Obviously there's tomorrow well, and then they have.

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Speaker 2: They have Clemson on December ninth, the following week at

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the the in New York City at the Jimmy B Classic.

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Speaker 1: I believe, and then if you guys want to do

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something special, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be at that game.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I am what are you gonna what

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are you going out eastward just for the game. Are

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you working to You're gonna double dip?

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Speaker 1: No, I have I actually have a working trip that

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I was I may or may not have been able

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to perfectly time it with with this game. And uh thankfully,

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my astfully thankfully my my boss is the East Coast guy.

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And uh so maybe we can added this out of

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Twitter and but you know we'll be able to go there.

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Speaker 4: I have an event.

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Speaker 1: Monday, That's right, I have an event on Monday. I

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get to go to the game on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: I come back home Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think right now these next two

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games and for actually most of the games in December,

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is can they just go I think it's five and oh,

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six and oh and just be able to tune up,

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try a few new things for conference and to Ron's point,

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to be able to get elect pay ready because they're

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gonna need them now. And you know, Ben, to your

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point about Baker, he was actually playing minutes as the

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secondary ball handler when when Robert Wright came off the bench.

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Can't went to the bench. And so to me, it's

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going to be a time for.

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Speaker 5: You to make sure that that a, let say, is

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ready to go or that you're adjusting things in a

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way so that AG and the rotation to.

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Speaker 4: The way they're gonna do it. It's all set and

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ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Tabinari, Ladies and gentlemen, JT for three, make sure

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Speaker 3: On the ESPN the Fan. Thanks so much, JT.

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Speaker 5: Always and forever go foobs, and glad that Klannis stay.

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Speaker 2: Home as in my as in my we got our

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guys Kevin Young as well as Kolani Sataki leading our

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Speaker 2: Utah Valley University will be playing the University of California

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