Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What, What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What? Let's go.
Speaker 3: We're back with another episode of Conspiracy Chaos.
Speaker 1: My name is R. G. B.
Speaker 3: Joining me has always got my co host Florida Mike
Speaker 3: and Area fifty one Anthony Woods.
Speaker 4: Up, boys, fellas.
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening?
Speaker 5: Dodging boys out here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the pictures today Mike was getting Mike
Speaker 3: was getting sprayed pretty good out there to down in Florida.
Speaker 3: But tonight's episode, boys, we're gonna dive into the occult.
Speaker 3: Joining us here tonight from New Cult Rejas, we got
Speaker 3: our guy Nick and the headless Gihnant.
Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Appreciate you guys jumping on what's going on?
Speaker 6: Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3: No, man, I've uh just came across your guys stuff
Speaker 3: about a month and month or so ago.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3: I know, man, I'm I'm missing out. But you know
Speaker 3: what the good thing is, I have a lot of
Speaker 3: content to catch up.
Speaker 1: On it, so it's uh, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I was listening to Jamantria episode. I think Nick, you
Speaker 3: were doing the Jamatria stuff today. I was listening to
Speaker 3: that one from the Nice year.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Nice, thank you, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: Diving into that, that's always a fun topic because the
Speaker 3: numbers can really anywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, let's start off with get to know you guys
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: How did you guys get into get into the podcast game?
Speaker 3: And what why did you decide to go down to occult?
Speaker 2: Hell, you want to actually take that first, because actually
Speaker 2: I don't even think I really know your story. Listen,
Speaker 2: this is interesting for me. That's why I've been podcast.
Speaker 2: I've been the guy for three years and haven't asked
Speaker 2: him too much personal shit. I don't care.
Speaker 6: I got edit because I was listening to people's podcast
Speaker 6: like Nick over here, and I'm like, well, I should
Speaker 6: I should be doing that too. I know a lot
Speaker 6: about this stuff. I've been studying it since I was
Speaker 6: a kid, So you know, I got in contact with him,
Speaker 6: I got in contact with a couple of other people,
Speaker 6: and I just started, you know, sharing my own knowledge
Speaker 6: about what I knew and all the stuff that I
Speaker 6: had studied, and they liked it. So I stuck around.
Speaker 1: Nice Nice What about you Nick?
Speaker 2: For me? I guess like even well, getting into the
Speaker 2: podcasting community. I guess because of the occult was because
Speaker 2: of me. I was in the OTO for about five
Speaker 2: or six years and I had experience with that. I left,
Speaker 2: and I kind of wanted to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: cover my experience and talk about magic and occultism, you know,
Speaker 2: in different aspects, like you know what it is and isn't.
Speaker 2: You know, people are very confused, I think, especially in
Speaker 2: the conspiracy community, like they just everything's Dixon demons, which
Speaker 2: it's not. So I kind of wanted to have a
Speaker 2: show for that and to help people understand some of
Speaker 2: the basics. And you know, I had a co host
Speaker 2: that I originally started with lasted about a year and
Speaker 2: a half, found out he was a pathological liar and
Speaker 2: kicked him off the show, and eventually, in looking for
Speaker 2: other people I had Headless suggested to me and here
Speaker 2: he is with me. Here's later if you go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we have other people now, but still, I
Speaker 2: mean he's he's been, you know, for a long time
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: The cool thing is about the conspiracy community, man, that
Speaker 3: I've noticed over we've been doing this about we're almost
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 1: In February mid February the year for us. But we
Speaker 1: also me and.
Speaker 3: Anthony do golf podcast and the the support you get
Speaker 3: on the conspiracy side of things, the post to the
Speaker 3: golf side of things is night and day.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: It really is like you get those country club guys
Speaker 3: opposed to just some regular fucking people, and it makes
Speaker 3: a big difference for.
Speaker 4: The conspiracy you know. What I noticed is the conspiracy
Speaker 4: guys want to get their story out as well. They
Speaker 4: want to they want to talk about it as much
Speaker 4: as possible, whatever they believe in, you know, and uh,
Speaker 4: golf guys kind of just want to. If you ask
Speaker 4: a professional golfer to come on the podcast, good luck
Speaker 4: because they're out there golf in seven days a week
Speaker 4: practicing and they want nothing to do with you. You know.
Speaker 4: So it's like that's kind of why I feel. I
Speaker 4: think it's different for sure, but we get a ton
Speaker 4: of support. For sure. It's awesome we do.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool on the conspiracy side of things, But
Speaker 3: what was some of the big like, what was the
Speaker 3: reason you do you guys decided to go like a cult?
Speaker 3: There's a thousand topics and conspiracy side of things. You
Speaker 3: could go what was the main reason you guys decided
Speaker 3: to uh headless giant. You said, you've been you know,
Speaker 3: research research rate at your whole life.
Speaker 1: What made you dive into it?
Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost is joining the army. That really
Speaker 6: sort of opened my conspiracy. Third eye is joining that
Speaker 6: and seeing, oh wait, no, everything is really fucked up
Speaker 6: from the top down. Everything is it really the way
Speaker 6: that they say it is? And uh, you know, joining
Speaker 6: this organization was probably a pretty bad idea. But you know, again,
Speaker 6: if you don't have the good information going in, you're
Speaker 6: not going to be able to make the right decisions
Speaker 6: coming out. And that's the problem we've basically always had
Speaker 6: as a species is whenever we're dealing with each other,
Speaker 6: there's really nothing we can be one hundred percent sure about.
Speaker 6: And what we find is that the more we dig,
Speaker 6: the looser that ground gets, and the more we find
Speaker 6: out that we've been lied to pretty much every step
Speaker 6: along the way. So one of the things I focus
Speaker 6: on mainly is supposedly a defunct civilization, something that went
Speaker 6: belly up back back in the two thousand years ago,
Speaker 6: which was the Canaanite Phoenicians. Right, we have so many
Speaker 6: different Canaanite Phoenician influences in our lives today, but we
Speaker 6: don't make that association because this empire is supposedly gone.
Speaker 6: Is it really gone or did it just changed form?
Speaker 6: So that's really what I focus on is the ancient world,
Speaker 6: classical antiquity, in the conspiracies of the classical world, which
Speaker 6: is a lot of them, and how that relates to
Speaker 6: where we're living at today. And unfortunately, there's a lot
Speaker 6: of crossover. And once you bring it up, people are like,
Speaker 6: I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like when you bring up Tartaria. The
Speaker 3: people like when you bring up old World, maybe think Tartaria.
Speaker 3: When you bring that up to people, they look at
Speaker 3: you like you're fucking crazy, dude, regular person. I was
Speaker 3: just down in New York City about a month ago Friday,
Speaker 3: go down to court and uh, I'm down there taking
Speaker 3: videos of the courthouse just because of the structure and
Speaker 3: the architecture.
Speaker 1: Wow, right, twenty five foot doorways. I'm six too. I
Speaker 1: walked through it. That just fine, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the same when I when I lived
Speaker 7: in Chicago, you know, and you're going down Michigan Avenue
Speaker 7: and you see these big, giant stone buildings, and you.
Speaker 5: See like.
Speaker 7: Today's architecture what everybody remembers, Like there's no way the
Speaker 7: same two people built this.
Speaker 4: Or you know, or.
Speaker 7: It's just if the art and how they constructed things
Speaker 7: were amazing. And that's why I love Chicago because of just.
Speaker 5: The buildings regular humans didn't build.
Speaker 6: Well, it's mind blowing that they say that it was
Speaker 6: all built from like the eighteen eighties to the present,
Speaker 6: and like there's a lot more history that goes into
Speaker 6: these Midwest towns than just the eighteen eighties, But it
Speaker 6: seems like, uniformally across the board, from one side of
Speaker 6: the country to the other, it's eighteen eighties is the
Speaker 6: build point for everything. And all these exceptional buildings that
Speaker 6: seem to pop up out of nowhere, they were all
Speaker 6: built back then and they can't build them today. So
Speaker 6: there's something strange going on with that whole connection and
Speaker 6: with the roots of American history. And if I think
Speaker 6: part of the problem is inflation, Inflation is like a
Speaker 6: brain drain. So all of these magnificent pieces of architecture
Speaker 6: are built with very special materials that cost a lot
Speaker 6: of money, and when you inflate those materials out of
Speaker 6: your price range, you're not going to be building the
Speaker 6: same things anymore. In fact, it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 6: more basic, and it's gonna be a lot dumber. So
Speaker 6: all of this really smart stuff is priced out of
Speaker 6: our price range, and all the really dumb stuff is
Speaker 6: the only stuff that gets built. So we're looking around
Speaker 6: thinking every everything is different. But you know, we've gotten dumber,
Speaker 6: significantly dumber just in the time that those buildings were.
Speaker 3: Built today, and they did it was with less equipment.
Speaker 3: They didn't have the equipment we have today. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: I mean crazy.
Speaker 4: What guess me is was the World's Fair was that
Speaker 4: around like the late eighteen hundred as well, And well
Speaker 4: guess me is that they build those and then they
Speaker 4: tore them down like it was like they're supposedly built
Speaker 4: of paper mache, Like come on, like, I don't believe it.
Speaker 6: They get produced any of the paper mache, are actually
Speaker 6: showing any of the pictures, but they're like, no, these
Speaker 6: were all just facades. They weren't real, And it's like, well,
Speaker 6: you're just making assertions here, Let's actually see some evidence.
Speaker 6: Let's see some receipts, but they're always light on the
Speaker 6: receipts and in some ways, you know, how how are
Speaker 6: they saving receipts from over one hundred years ago? The
Speaker 6: other time, you think that dude want to keep better records. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm conflicted on the whole old world thing.
Speaker 6: But I know that there was more influence going on
Speaker 6: pre Columbus than they're telling us.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, his whole story is bullshit too, Bingo, you know
Speaker 3: for sure, because the Moors were actually the first stories too,
Speaker 3: I believe, and there's probably people before the Moors.
Speaker 2: You know, even the Mormons claim to have been here
Speaker 2: before him.
Speaker 1: No, the Moors.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying even Mormons claim to.
Speaker 4: Have been here before before Christopher Columbus. Yeah, that whole story.
Speaker 4: I mean, what we were, what we were taught in school,
Speaker 4: ninety percent of it was lies. All the bullshit we were taught.
Speaker 4: This is so crazy. Oh God. Ever, since I've become
Speaker 4: a you know, in the last couple of years, really
Speaker 4: I'm new to it. But I look back and now,
Speaker 4: like I see my daughter coming home, and I mean
Speaker 4: she just learned about like, not not the details of
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, but on September eleventh. They kind of
Speaker 4: like learned about the story and the history, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to tell her. You know, it's like I really
Speaker 4: wanted to tell her the truth.
Speaker 1: Did they saw her loose change nine to eleven or
Speaker 1: they just.
Speaker 2: That was good?
Speaker 7: But I think I think you should still tell her.
Speaker 7: I think you should still tell her, like educator, slowly,
Speaker 7: just let her make the decision on her own whether
Speaker 7: she wants to believe it or not. But I always thought,
Speaker 7: I mean, I think I was. It was eighth grade
Speaker 7: going to the ninth grade when I found out like
Speaker 7: school was bullshit. And they're like sitting there, Okay, you're
Speaker 7: getting ready to.
Speaker 8: Do the foremost important years of your life and they're
Speaker 8: going through like the points system on how you graduate,
Speaker 8: and I'm thinking I could literally fuck off for half
Speaker 8: of the four years and still graduate on time, right exactly,
Speaker 8: It's exactly what I did.
Speaker 7: You know, we had the four by four schedule. I'm old,
Speaker 7: so I don't know if anybody else had that. Let
Speaker 7: us assuabilities down here in Florida did, and uh, I
Speaker 7: just is. And then you go to college, it's the
Speaker 7: same stuff, same stuff. You're paying hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 7: dollars a year to listen to the same stuff you
Speaker 7: learned in ninth grade.
Speaker 5: It's just, uh, it's all.
Speaker 4: As how much of the math we learned, like all
Speaker 4: the you know, geometry and bullshit. Uh what was the
Speaker 4: other big math, like the eleventh grade massulus? How much
Speaker 4: of that you're actually using? And the old saying was
Speaker 4: you're not always going to have a calculator in your pocket.
Speaker 4: That used to say us back when we were nice.
Speaker 2: Now we do, you're not.
Speaker 4: Can now look at us now look what we have
Speaker 4: in our pocket?
Speaker 1: The world it's it, man, it's fucking craziness. Solato.
Speaker 6: Plato actually complained that now that everybody was writing stuff down,
Speaker 6: everybody's memories had gone to ship and before writing, everybody
Speaker 6: had to remember absolutely everything, so they had much better memories.
Speaker 6: So in some ways technology has had this effect on us.
Speaker 6: It kind of makes us dependent and stupid. And now
Speaker 6: we're going into the age of AI. Follow that trend.
Speaker 6: That stuff.
Speaker 4: A nail on the head because how many how many
Speaker 4: phone them numbers? Did you ever? I mean, I really
Speaker 4: remember my wife's phone number if I need to know it.
Speaker 4: When I don't have my cell phone on I mean,
Speaker 4: it's terrible to say, but I know it, but I
Speaker 4: have to kind of like piece it together, you know.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's terrible. Still, I still know my phone
Speaker 4: number growing up, though my house or my parents don't
Speaker 4: still have that.
Speaker 2: I remember that ship. I remember that ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you could have remembered something on the fucking
Speaker 3: grocery list from five minutes ago.
Speaker 2: I go to the store and forgot what I already
Speaker 2: wanted to go for.
Speaker 3: I always had my wife text me what we need,
Speaker 3: just so I got it on the phone.
Speaker 1: That's the move.
Speaker 4: I do look back now, and I mean it is
Speaker 4: kind of it's not I was gonna say, you think
Speaker 4: about those days, and I do miss those days, but
Speaker 4: then you think, what would you do with it? I
Speaker 4: use the phone so much for just for directions, you know,
Speaker 4: GPS ways.
Speaker 5: Like just just basically.
Speaker 4: But when you used to drive place, I mean we really,
Speaker 4: I mean so when we got our license back and
Speaker 4: what ninety nine two thousands, they oh they didn't have
Speaker 4: cell phone, so what did we really? I remember when
Speaker 4: I went to visit my girlfriend, she was up at
Speaker 4: Sagadaga Lake, and I mean her dad, it was her
Speaker 4: dad's camp, and he gave me the directions and I
Speaker 4: was writing him down word for word. It was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you're gonna see this, uh you know the sign take
Speaker 4: a ride five miles and you're gonna take a left.
Speaker 4: And I'm sat in my speedometer, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: actually look and I got to get to exactly five
Speaker 4: miles to where that road was going to be. I mean,
Speaker 4: that was the ship we did. And then then we
Speaker 4: had MASS. I mean I remember looking at Mass from
Speaker 4: New York City, got coming home from the baseball games
Speaker 4: and actually having Brad look at a map to get
Speaker 4: us home. I mean, it's it's crazy how things have
Speaker 4: changed in just thirty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, technically, well let's let's get back to farking some
Speaker 3: occult shit here. So when you guys started diving into it,
Speaker 3: did you guys start to notice like things standing out,
Speaker 3: like once you knew what a symbol was, Like I noticed,
Speaker 3: like I have an eight year old that much Disney
Speaker 3: movies or forever prior to her. But when I start
Speaker 3: watching Disney movies, I started seeing symbols. I started seeing
Speaker 3: certain things you've seen like on the the PF files
Speaker 3: board there you would start to see those symbols and
Speaker 3: Disney movies. Did you guys start once you got into it,
Speaker 3: did you start noticing symbols as well?
Speaker 2: For me, I think like before I got it, you know,
Speaker 2: before I got into the Occult, that wasn't like a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist first, and I followed a lot of people
Speaker 2: that touched on the occult, which is what kind of
Speaker 2: brought me into getting interested in it. So I like
Speaker 2: I already had that kind of an idea already. But
Speaker 2: I will say like when I joined the OTO and
Speaker 2: I got into that, I got heavily into, like you know, practicing,
Speaker 2: Like I took it serious. It became my life. And
Speaker 2: I really wasn't listening to conspiracy podcasts. If I was
Speaker 2: listening to anything, it was probably stuff to do with
Speaker 2: magic or the books that I was reading, you know, audiobooks.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like it wasn't really big in
Speaker 2: the conspiracy community. But like once I left and came
Speaker 2: back and started looking at conspiracy stuff and just had
Speaker 2: politics at the time, because I kind of left around
Speaker 2: the whole you know, COVID thing in two thousand, I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, this fucking shit is rampant it's fucking
Speaker 2: all over the place in my face. I was like,
Speaker 2: did I not notice this last?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: That was?
Speaker 2: Even one of the reasons why I started the show
Speaker 2: is because how I just thought it was so dominant
Speaker 2: amongst politics at that time, and I was just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: all these people are acting crazy out there because of magic,
Speaker 2: fucking witchcraft and magicians. I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I definitely noticed it a lot
Speaker 2: worse after that fact. So the ot is that like Scientology,
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't look at it like that, but
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Maybe there's some sort of commonalities.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I guess. I mean Crowley was
Speaker 2: he didn't know, I guess, the guy from Scientology. So
Speaker 2: but no, it's a secret society that has the initiations.
Speaker 2: It was originally Freemasonic and uh next question. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: Theodore rus and two other guys maybe they were Freemasons,
Speaker 2: And at some point I think they read Crowley's Book
Speaker 2: of the Law and they were like, oh, wow, you're
Speaker 2: like talking about our stuff and telling our secrets, and
Speaker 2: this is the story. I know how truthful it is.
Speaker 2: And then they got in touch with him and He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know who you guys are. And then
Speaker 2: eventually I think they met up and somehow they handed
Speaker 2: the order over to him. He knocked out most of
Speaker 2: the initiations and dropped them down to thirteen which is
Speaker 2: mineeruval and twelve other degrees, and he based it on
Speaker 2: the Book of the Law. It changed a few things around.
Speaker 2: I'm sure esthetically inside the lodge the shit got changed,
Speaker 2: or you know, whatever you place you're in a camper
Speaker 2: or oasis, and it's a little bit different with that
Speaker 2: where it's I mean you walk in. I mean one
Speaker 2: thing with that you walk in, it's ceremonial magic in
Speaker 2: your face. They would never show you that shit in scientology,
Speaker 2: and if they're doing it, they're not going to tell you.
Speaker 2: It's that, you know what I'm saying. So that's a
Speaker 2: big difference. I mean, you know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2: If you want to practice magic and ceremonial magic, that's
Speaker 2: the only reason you're going to go to that place.
Speaker 2: I can't see how any other reason you go there
Speaker 2: 'll find out about it unless that's what you were into.
Speaker 1: Too familiar with the oto at all.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's uh, it's based on Aliston Crowley's like
Speaker 2: the Lea mcmagic and his ideas. I wasn't a huge
Speaker 2: fan of him. It was the only order like that
Speaker 2: that was close to me, so that was the reason
Speaker 2: I joined it. I do think, you know, a cult
Speaker 2: in occultism. He was a genius. I will give him
Speaker 2: that credit, but I'm sure he was a degenerate. So
Speaker 2: I mean I I joined that basically because I was
Speaker 2: starting to get into the occult started reading books, and
Speaker 2: I even noticed discrepancies in books, like somebody was referencing
Speaker 2: liber resh by Croley and I had libra resh By
Speaker 2: Croley with me, and I'm like, well, how come you're
Speaker 2: not doing it the same way It's in his fucking words.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I know.
Speaker 2: I was like damn, I'm like even gotta worry about
Speaker 2: this shit. So uh again, like the OTO was the
Speaker 2: only place around, but I was like, you know, one,
Speaker 2: instead of reading these books, maybe I'll join the order
Speaker 2: because most of these orders kind of have like set
Speaker 2: things that they suggest, Like like the OTO, most people
Speaker 2: there will suggest the less of managing ritual, the pentagram
Speaker 2: and the hexagram types stuff. Maybe certain meditations now that
Speaker 2: stuff comes from the Golden Down. But uh, you know
Speaker 2: they will. You know, they do like suggest like doing
Speaker 2: that ship like as soon as you walk in. I
Speaker 2: mean maybe not to extagrammar tool, but I forgot where
Speaker 2: I was going with that. But yeah, the Oto like
Speaker 2: has like their own like and then they have the
Speaker 2: Limc magic where that's the rituals that Crowley wrote Star
Speaker 2: Ruby or Rash. Oh god, I'm I'm forgetting. But he
Speaker 2: has two other ones that he wrote to, so I
Speaker 2: mean you do have like a mixture of other things,
Speaker 2: have Golden Dorm practice. His practice is in there as well.
Speaker 2: It's it's a pretty big like mixture of a lot
Speaker 2: of different things and people.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I have to dive into that.
Speaker 3: Listen, that's an interesting one there. I never I never
Speaker 3: even I mean I might have heard of it, but
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with it.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm surprised because like either between him Michael and
Speaker 2: Michael Aquino, it's like those two are fucking responsible for everything.
Speaker 2: I'm joking around, I'm actually joking.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, So if you if you hop into that
Speaker 6: Crowley stuff, you start to realize, like this guy might
Speaker 6: have been like an agent for Britain during the World
Speaker 6: War One and World War Two, and like he could
Speaker 6: have been responsible to kick off those wars. And you know,
Speaker 6: he actually rode across the uh the Atlantic on the
Speaker 6: Lusitania to meet with a bunch of Germans in America
Speaker 6: and tell them, hey, you've got to send a message
Speaker 6: to these Americans to keep them out of the war.
Speaker 6: Why don't you blow up this boat? And so this,
Speaker 6: this Crowley guy is sort of central to all of
Speaker 6: these conspiracies while at the same time being in occultist. Now,
Speaker 6: lots of people in the conspiracy world try to unite
Speaker 6: those two ideas. But occultism and spy and spon I's
Speaker 6: work has gone back hundreds of years. He thought he
Speaker 6: was the reincarnation of Edward Kelly, which Edward Kelly and
Speaker 6: John d were mystics from the fifteen hundreds, and John
Speaker 6: Dee was a spy and he was really good at math,
Speaker 6: and he created this system called the Nochian magic. So really,
Speaker 6: these occultists are at the epicenter of these major political events,
Speaker 6: and it brings a lot of attention to the occult
Speaker 6: and a lot of people are like, what's going on
Speaker 6: with that? That stuff over there with all the guys
Speaker 6: doing the weird dances and dressing up strange and making
Speaker 6: symbols in the air and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that is a huge The other
Speaker 2: thing about Crowley too, I mean his intelligence. I mean
Speaker 2: there's huge intelligence ties with you. I'm sure multiple countries,
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like who even knows what the
Speaker 2: fuck's true? I would even honestly say, I'm sure heads
Speaker 2: would agree with me, like magicians like him, like people
Speaker 2: like that high up or understanding. They'd be perfect candidates
Speaker 2: for intelligence. I just hate to say they'd be great
Speaker 2: for intelligence.
Speaker 1: Right. There's recruiting too, even for like a recruiting tool.
Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, yeah, I mean they how do you
Speaker 2: want people to react?
Speaker 4: I got you.
Speaker 2: How do you want you want people pissed off today?
Speaker 2: I got you. You know what I'm saying. They'll know
Speaker 2: exactly how to twist a mental fucking mind to get
Speaker 2: people to react, and then they can also cipher shit
Speaker 2: and send stuff to people that nobody would even understand.
Speaker 6: Ritual magic is about manipulation of affect, words and beliefs, right,
Speaker 6: so all three of those things are necessary when you're
Speaker 6: trying to gather information. I mean especially affect. If you
Speaker 6: can keep their cool in a tough situation and you
Speaker 6: have that emotional control, you're it right, And so all
Speaker 6: of that does come through. You know, A rigorous interpretation
Speaker 6: of ritual magic is you have to memorize this stuff.
Speaker 6: You have to be able to change the energy.
Speaker 4: M God, Mike, We're gonna say, is there an what's
Speaker 4: the lady that's in Hollywood?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is she authentic? What's her name? Clothing line?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, this is a grande.
Speaker 5: No, she's with everybody. She's with everybody. You hear all
Speaker 5: the photos, the.
Speaker 6: One with the black fingernails are Yeah.
Speaker 7: There she's Oh, I know you're talking about. Yeah, the
Speaker 7: older lady and then her husband. I think runs like
Speaker 7: a dark clothing line.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's like.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people are into the symbology, right.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't necessarily say that they're into ritual magic. They
Speaker 6: could be, but generally when you when you have people
Speaker 6: who are into ritual magic, it's it's like, uh, I
Speaker 6: don't know, it's more like a performance thing. Maybe she
Speaker 6: is into it because of the performance angle, but uh,
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's all about how you present to
Speaker 6: the world. So there Michelle Possibility.
Speaker 4: Michelle May, Michelle o May, like look her up, that's
Speaker 4: what you're thinking of.
Speaker 3: Because she's close to like the Kardashians, and they're legend
Speaker 3: like witches.
Speaker 5: Especial, there's the Rappers.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a theory that their their grandmother or something
Speaker 3: was a witch and she put she put a curse
Speaker 3: on anybody that dated her grandchildren.
Speaker 1: And I heard him or something to that extent.
Speaker 3: Well even think about her, her grandson when he was
Speaker 3: with that China Black China, whatever hell her name was.
Speaker 1: She's all messed up now.
Speaker 3: And every every single dude with the Kardashians dated is
Speaker 3: an absolute shit show.
Speaker 4: So I mean, let's talk about Hollywood and the occult.
Speaker 4: I mean, shit, it's like everyone right, It's like you're
Speaker 4: always seeing his hand symbols on whether it's a Tonight
Speaker 4: Show or even the the award ceremonies sometimes got them.
Speaker 2: Over or even like some of the performers or even
Speaker 2: tied to cults in the occult themselves, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, I mean I do think in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: especially music industry too. I do think I think some
Speaker 2: bands out there might exist, even like two fund cults
Speaker 2: are weird, weird belief systems. Like sure, not to bring
Speaker 2: up the Process Church, but I do like wonder about them.
Speaker 2: I think they have like, you know, out things out
Speaker 2: in public trying to make money.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know there's a couple of the you know, who
Speaker 2: was that cult that me you and JJ cover that
Speaker 2: was down Dwight, York. They had that other yeah, like
Speaker 2: who was that band with hey ya? They had that song?
Speaker 2: Hey fucking.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Those guys, I mean, you know, they're performing at these
Speaker 2: public things, but yet they're they're tied to a UFO
Speaker 2: you know, Alien Cargo cult. You know that the leader
Speaker 2: like Diddle's fucking kids and nobody knows this ship.
Speaker 1: That makes sense because of the way that Andre three
Speaker 1: thousand acted.
Speaker 3: Now he walks around like playing the flute and just
Speaker 3: like walking around the streets, lay the.
Speaker 2: Other guys collects owls. I mean, come on, go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead of this.
Speaker 6: He actually took his drone out and was getting footage
Speaker 6: of the place in New York they owned, like a
Speaker 6: whole city block that they've made out into this like
Speaker 6: sort of pseudo Egyptian motif out front. So he was
Speaker 6: out there just filming. They come out and they're like
Speaker 6: yelling at him, you know, trying to be gangsters and stuff.
Speaker 6: He's like, I just like what I'm looking at. So
Speaker 6: I thought i'd film it. So it's kind of interesting there.
Speaker 6: There's still there's still an effect up there. So where
Speaker 6: was that? I don't remember?
Speaker 1: Wow? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Where say that again?
Speaker 6: The Bronx he went out to the place with your.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that was in h Yeah
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. Yeah yeah, that shit was wild, dude. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The guy came here running out with the fucking camera,
Speaker 2: like his phone in his hand, and I was like,
Speaker 2: even was busting his walls. I was like, oh, we
Speaker 2: live on Instagram right now. I was like, can you
Speaker 2: tag me? You know, like I was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? Like he was a toothpick too,
Speaker 2: Like no offense. It was like the skinny guy. It's
Speaker 2: like his clothes bl I weighed more than him, like
Speaker 2: running up to me with this phone. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh god, here we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably just took his mask off a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're from New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was originally it was originally from New York
Speaker 2: before I moved to North Carolina. I grew up in
Speaker 2: Suffolk County and I was living in Nashole right before I.
Speaker 4: Left, no doubt. But you know, like even from New York,
Speaker 4: even after.
Speaker 2: I started talking to that guy, like you know again,
Speaker 2: like hey, to be able like in a cult is
Speaker 2: like you're gonna understand people because you've looked at yourself
Speaker 2: through shadow work. So I could already tell like somebody
Speaker 2: like this. It's like I just got to show like
Speaker 2: some interest or compliment their fucking weird shit, and they'll
Speaker 2: probably think I'm cool. So he was like, you know,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here? And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: look at the I was like, yo, this architecture is amazing,
Speaker 2: and he's like what I was like, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: like whatever, I said, this ship, this shit's beautiful, I said,
Speaker 2: and I showed him my tattoos. I said, I'm into
Speaker 2: the occult. I said, this stuff is beautiful to me,
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean I was filming this ship
Speaker 2: to do an episode on because the fucking weirdows, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But like I'm telling him that,
Speaker 2: so then this king gets interested and you know, he
Speaker 2: starts spitting shit out that I was able to actually
Speaker 2: go and look online and was like, holy fuck, this
Speaker 2: guy just gave me shit for the show. He's like,
Speaker 2: woo Tang's been here. Jay Z was in his music video,
Speaker 2: the first music video he was ever in, was filmed
Speaker 2: in this lodge. He was talking about like Prodigy was
Speaker 2: a part of fucking this thing. These people are part
Speaker 2: of this thing, and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: And I look some of these people up and you're
Speaker 2: actually find like the guy was telling the truth, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh man. I was like thanks dude,
Speaker 2: Like it's funny because I knew exactly what he wanted
Speaker 2: to hear. The guy had high fucking diarrhea of the mouth.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: He was even telling me, you know, he could come
Speaker 2: back on Sundays and the publicans allowed in and you
Speaker 2: can come in and you know, we'll show you around.
Speaker 2: I was like, and he went at first n him
Speaker 2: running up to me with his phone. He at first
Speaker 2: started off with him running up to me with this phone,
Speaker 2: acting all hard to when I left, he was inviting
Speaker 2: me to come back. I knew exactly what that guy
Speaker 2: wanted to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1: You want to enjoying that shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yo, yo oh yeah. And then, like
Speaker 2: you said, do you ever hear doctor Dwight York or
Speaker 2: whatever they call him. I think they call him a doctor.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no idea. You know, I knew
Speaker 2: it exactly where the the guy was, you know. So
Speaker 2: then he starts going into like UFO, you know, starts
Speaker 2: going into conspiracy theories and all that. I was able to,
Speaker 2: you know, spit ball with him, so that like got
Speaker 2: him all excited. He's like, oh, you're into that stuff?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what's the UFO called that?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand and uh?
Speaker 2: I think I think it was that with the one
Speaker 2: with Dwight York. And then yeah, they do somehow they
Speaker 2: incorporate aliens into it. I I can't exactly tell you
Speaker 2: the full story, it's been a while since I covered them,
Speaker 2: but I think, yeah, yeah, Prodigy, Prodigy did an interview.
Speaker 2: Prodigy did an interview with some magazine company. You can
Speaker 2: probably look up Prodigy interview with Dwight York Cult. And
Speaker 2: he even states that supposedly threw the grapevine. It was
Speaker 2: jay Z and the guy who's running the cult Sun
Speaker 2: that set up this guy to get busted.
Speaker 5: And jay Z's in it.
Speaker 2: Yo, who the guy who did blade again, Wesley snipes,
Speaker 2: he's he's he's in it. One of the ways he
Speaker 2: got busted with his tax shit is because they noticed
Speaker 2: him donating a fuck ton of money to that shit
Speaker 2: or or or spending that amount of money like on
Speaker 2: the compound and like you know, and then that's how
Speaker 2: they ended up like getting in with Irs Shike is
Speaker 2: they were looking at his money.
Speaker 3: It was God, if you really look in jay Z's career,
Speaker 3: he didn't blow up until he got with Beyonce like
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 1: He was popular, but his his sales and everything else didn't.
Speaker 1: Golf did.
Speaker 3: Why does every single Hollywood celebrity when they win an
Speaker 3: award think beyoncet.
Speaker 2: You know what, it was interesting. Somebody was kind of
Speaker 2: covering this, how she's the more important one and they
Speaker 2: and you know, this blew my mind because it's like
Speaker 2: I guess, like when you hear shit get promoted, you
Speaker 2: just assume it's hot, you know, or if his shit
Speaker 2: gets played over and over again, you must assume it's hot.
Speaker 2: But they were actually showing his sales compared to all
Speaker 2: the rappers over the years on the same years, and
Speaker 2: they people did better than him. Believe it or not.
Speaker 2: He actually, I mean he may not sell. They were
Speaker 2: just showing going record sales. He actually isn't that fucking great.
Speaker 2: But for some reason everybody thinks everybody buys a ship.
Speaker 2: I think they were showing how fifty cent was even
Speaker 2: beating him with record sales, right, So I was I
Speaker 2: did find that interesting.
Speaker 4: So it's like you were talking about Prodigy from Moby
Speaker 4: pro the same Prodigy. Yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He
Speaker 4: was supposedly he died choking on an egg, but he
Speaker 4: was supposedly gonna come out with some like child Pedophelia
Speaker 4: rang or something.
Speaker 2: Right, it might have been that fucking thing because he
Speaker 2: was talking about that ship in jail.
Speaker 4: And so like who who chokes on an egg? Really
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 1: Gonna expose it.
Speaker 2: You know, even even the Locks was involved with them. Yo,
Speaker 2: you know who this was crazy. I had to give
Speaker 2: this up to. Uh, it wasn't my fine, It was Teresa.
Speaker 2: She had watched the David Chappelle one of his stand
Speaker 2: ups and at the end of it she just let
Speaker 2: it roll and at the end of it like it
Speaker 2: even showed like his name or with the way they
Speaker 2: show his logo. But then it was like in the
Speaker 2: red blue and red green and black or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was in these specific colors, and then like, if
Speaker 2: you wait a minute, somebody just comes out and says
Speaker 2: at the crossroad with the keys like this line, and
Speaker 2: for some reason she remembered it, and she's like, hmm,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. She went and googled it. That was the
Speaker 2: band's that was lyrics to the band that had jay
Speaker 2: Z in the video for his first time filmed inside
Speaker 2: of that fucking building I went to in Brooklyn. So
Speaker 2: now you even have Dave Chappelle showing at the end
Speaker 2: of his show him you know, I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Yeah, she found that connection. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: how many of these motherfuckers are into this fucking crazy motherfucker?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think I think Beyonce is big into
Speaker 3: like the Witchcraft type something that's like she's something, Because
Speaker 3: why I just all these literally if you go, there's
Speaker 3: a whole video and there's and they continue to do it.
Speaker 3: They don't even like hold back. Now that I want
Speaker 3: to think beyonceance for what what did she do? Because
Speaker 3: she's saying a songlike.
Speaker 6: Well, she's not the first, she's not the first sort
Speaker 6: of a cult which goddess queen that Hollywood has had.
Speaker 6: Back in the nineteen sixties, you had a woman named
Speaker 6: Tuesday Weld, and all of these bands and all of
Speaker 6: these people made all this stuff devoted specifically to Tuesday Weld.
Speaker 6: Now this is the cousin of Bill Weld, the former
Speaker 6: governor of Massachusetts. Right, So she has a very old money,
Speaker 6: sort of old world family and she's coming into Hollywood
Speaker 6: and they're worshiping this person is like this some sort
Speaker 6: of witch goddess, and she's actually making other people into
Speaker 6: this cult that she's sort of keeping around herself. So
Speaker 6: this thing has been an ongoing kind of reality when
Speaker 6: it comes to the religions in Hollywood, there's an unspoken
Speaker 6: hierarchy that you kind of get to see when they're
Speaker 6: making their thank yous. Right, it's not something they're going
Speaker 6: to tell you about, uh in an interview, but it's
Speaker 6: something you're gonna see when they're when they're saying thank you.
Speaker 3: And then back in the day when they would joke
Speaker 3: and you see, you know, we see the clip when
Speaker 3: they joke about the pizza, but Jennifery and is saying
Speaker 3: in La and all that ship like just to hear
Speaker 3: staying there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the messages they put in that ship. M h.
Speaker 4: So many of my childhood favorites so disappointed. They say.
Speaker 7: Allegedly the cast from Friends would do satanic rituals before
Speaker 7: every episode.
Speaker 1: I'd believe that I can see Anderston's into some crazy ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then we didn't want end. Didn't the one guy,
Speaker 7: uh it was his name, Matt or whatever. Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: Friends dying a hot tub. Yeah, that guy has.
Speaker 2: Demons in whatever. He's dealing with something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Literally, I just.
Speaker 3: Told the kid I work with, he's like, he's like,
Speaker 3: My favorite shuggle up was Seinfeld. I go, you know
Speaker 3: he was dated when he was like forty. He was
Speaker 3: dating like a fifteen year old, right, He's like wait what,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, bro, nobody he was there.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to it like picked up from shit.
Speaker 4: Du weird.
Speaker 1: So weird it was. It was on the news, it
Speaker 1: was in the public eye, like and no one's like
Speaker 1: just brust it off. Even this is in the nineties
Speaker 1: early two thousands.
Speaker 6: That was so common, especially if you look back at
Speaker 6: our stars like Brooks Shields, where it's like, what are
Speaker 6: you doing this?
Speaker 2: Remember that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this child in all of these different like Nudi
Speaker 6: bags and stuff, and it's like, what are you thinking?
Speaker 6: And everybody just let it go. Nobody nobody had anything
Speaker 6: to say about it. She's very odd, very strange behavior.
Speaker 4: Was she the one in that movie too with the
Speaker 4: got stranded on the island? She was nude in that
Speaker 4: she was only like fifteen, right, Wasn't that big?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 1: It's crazy imagine that shit nowadays be a fucking uproark.
Speaker 1: But thirty years ago, forty years ago, it was no problem.
Speaker 6: They were just looking to see what they could get
Speaker 6: away with. And I think a lot of a lot
Speaker 6: of that stuff raised a lot of people's eyebrows back then,
Speaker 6: but it was more like a testing phase. Now everything
Speaker 6: sort of ironed out and they just manufacture any kind
Speaker 6: of controversy that you would ever want to see within
Speaker 6: all of these different worlds of you know, Hollywood, sports,
Speaker 6: different crossovers between them, and you've got the entire public's
Speaker 6: attention on basically the show. It is the entertainment industry.
Speaker 3: Sports is interesting too, because you ever see you were
Speaker 3: doing you were doing your Jamontria. Did you ever see
Speaker 3: the correlation to like with the with the big game
Speaker 3: super Bowl coming up? A lot of times people dive
Speaker 3: into jamontria to predict who's going to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a dude that I have on the show
Speaker 2: every once in a while that does that. I don't
Speaker 2: even know. Maybe Zachary Hubbard might do that too, out
Speaker 2: of no, but I know that Kid AJ does so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have seen people do that. Yeah, they do, like
Speaker 2: sports betting and stuff. But I think the people I
Speaker 2: know that do that do it on like their patroon.
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not free ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's deep diving into jamantra. The my favorite
Speaker 3: person to watch on that is Larry Johnson, the former
Speaker 3: running back for the used to play for the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Chiefs back in the day from Penn State.
Speaker 1: He he's big in the jamontria and he's not.
Speaker 3: It's interesting kind of expose a little bit about the
Speaker 3: dark secrets of the NFL too.
Speaker 2: So oh that is cool as shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Larry Johnson too is his hat.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because he ties a lot of shit. Like
Speaker 3: when when the Kobe incident happened, he had all different
Speaker 3: types of jamontria leading back to you know, big people
Speaker 3: in seventy seven and ninety three, like all these different
Speaker 3: all these different numbers that were popping up, like it was.
Speaker 3: It was insane because that whole Kobe's conspiracies wild as well.
Speaker 6: That ninety three is the golden Dawn number.
Speaker 2: No la no the Oto.
Speaker 1: It's like that yo oto use that flight ninety three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yo yo, you know what was weird? But uh,
Speaker 2: those all those planes from uh, from nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: every single one of well, ninety three is associated with
Speaker 2: you know, Crowley, but like all the other ones are
Speaker 2: even number. But like Crowley has a lot of most
Speaker 2: of his books are libres whatever and it could even
Speaker 2: be a name, it could be libraresh there's still going
Speaker 2: to be a number value to it. All of those
Speaker 2: planes are associated. Yeah, seven seven seven was one of them,
Speaker 2: I think with all of the match book numbers of
Speaker 2: his really yeah, I know, uh I think libra Astarte
Speaker 2: uh was it was. I think that one the number
Speaker 2: value of that was even one of the books that
Speaker 2: he wrote. And that one, now that one, I will
Speaker 2: say inside of it it does has nothing negative of
Speaker 2: bed but it is ways of you giving devotion to
Speaker 2: whatever deities you're working with, you know, or what do
Speaker 2: they call that when you give up your offerings, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, like it didn't have anything
Speaker 2: negative in there, like killing anything of blood or shit
Speaker 2: like that. It was a lot of just you know whatever,
Speaker 2: like just other stuff, herbs and music and whatever. So
Speaker 2: but I did find that weird that the one that's like,
Speaker 2: you know, how to give offerings to Gods is one
Speaker 2: of the books that hit the fucking building.
Speaker 3: Like that's like Jesus, Really, there's so many ties to
Speaker 3: Jamontri with nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry Johnson's a good one to follow for for
Speaker 3: some Jamontra shit. But with the sports, we actually.
Speaker 1: Not to name any names. Anthony. We had a former.
Speaker 3: Professional athlete on our one of our podcasts and he
Speaker 3: was telling us how not necessarily the game was it
Speaker 3: was rigged, but the referees control the outcome, if that
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: He goes, they're the ones that kind of it's not
Speaker 1: the players really that are.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know certain games the players are on the take,
Speaker 3: but not necessarily the players are on the take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the it's the efficiency of the control.
Speaker 4: And you had that one guy that that got caught
Speaker 4: the NBA. Uh Donahey Donihey, yeah, he got busted for it.
Speaker 4: And it is so true because I mean, even in
Speaker 4: the NFL, matter of throwing one flag can make the
Speaker 4: difference in the game. You know, like every every player's
Speaker 4: holding every play or there's you know, touchy pass interference,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's like they really
Speaker 4: can control the outcome in any sport.
Speaker 3: Go back to the O two Fiesta Bowl, my Hurricanes,
Speaker 3: because we've got we're finally back in the National Championship
Speaker 3: twenty three years later, twenty four years later, shout out
Speaker 3: here because of a fucking bullshit pass interference called that
Speaker 3: changed the outcome in that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you don't know how much money Vegas had
Speaker 4: on one side, and you know they control it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, just entertainment, do you guys want.
Speaker 6: To know how?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 6: Specifically, we're living in one of the most controlled time
Speaker 6: periods imaginable all of the sports betting, all of the
Speaker 6: betting apps in general. Look at Calshi, you can bet
Speaker 6: on absolutely anything. It's legal everywhere. Now that means that
Speaker 6: as soon as they make a decision, trillions of dollars
Speaker 6: could be on the line because every single one of
Speaker 6: these things can start to uh, you know, snowball into
Speaker 6: much bigger and bigger things. So everything would have to
Speaker 6: be controlled so that you can keep making money off
Speaker 6: of these small decisions that you could predict and then
Speaker 6: you know, sort of longto that money back to yourself.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I think in another ten years, man, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be big problems with all these sports betting gambling
Speaker 4: casinos opening up. I mean, it's only the tip of
Speaker 4: the iceberg. I mean, I see it already. It's uh,
Speaker 4: it's amazing because that's what it is. They should have
Speaker 4: just kept it where you either had to get hold
Speaker 4: of your buckeye like old old fashioned make it a
Speaker 4: little difficult, or have to drive to a casino. Fact
Speaker 4: it is in the palm of your hands. And like,
Speaker 4: the thing that gets me is like you can't even
Speaker 4: watch a sports game now without them having a whole
Speaker 4: segment beforehand about gambling, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 4: every I don't know. It's just it's all so much
Speaker 4: money in and now it's not going to go anywhere,
Speaker 4: that's for sure.
Speaker 5: But it's just Think to the Future Part two.
Speaker 6: Back to the Future part due. When Biff Tannon takes
Speaker 6: over the whole country, and that was a direct reference. Yeah,
Speaker 6: all everywhere was betting, everywhere was casinos, and it was
Speaker 6: so much like Donald Trump, it's almost ridiculous.
Speaker 2: You're right, I've heard that.
Speaker 3: It all started though, back in the early nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: late eighteen hundreds, when the Rothschilds took over, took over,
Speaker 3: the education system took over, obviously, the banking system all that.
Speaker 3: That's when it started. That's when the programming really locked in,
Speaker 3: and the big families came in and the power structure began.
Speaker 3: For the most part, I mean, there was always something there,
Speaker 3: but that's where that's where we are, why we are
Speaker 3: where we are today.
Speaker 6: I think it goes back much much further. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: just the latest iteration. But have we ever considered the
Speaker 6: fact that ninety percent of the knowledge was wiped out
Speaker 6: from the classical world when they transitioned into Christianity. That's
Speaker 6: a great reset. So ninety percent of our information is
Speaker 6: now gone because they associated it with somebody else's gods
Speaker 6: or something. Right, some of these temples housed a lot
Speaker 6: of philosophical manuscripts that were going back hundreds of years,
Speaker 6: and so all of that stuff was burnt out that.
Speaker 6: You know, that was a lot of heritage right there.
Speaker 6: And what was Jesus preaching. He was preaching kind of
Speaker 6: a form of communism that wasn't native to Rome. So
Speaker 6: the communists kind of took over, burned all the information.
Speaker 6: And now we're going through it again. What did they
Speaker 6: call it? The Great Reset? They want to have another
Speaker 6: one of these uh, inward looking resets where we kind
Speaker 6: of attack ourselves until there's nothing left. And we see
Speaker 6: that rising up with communism and all the rest of
Speaker 6: these different you know, astroturfed ideologies. They're just propped up
Speaker 6: there to be used as kind of like a way
Speaker 6: of attacking the public. So how big is the matrix?
Speaker 6: I don't know how far back does it go?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 6: Is it some sort of a social cycle? These are
Speaker 6: all really good questions, and I don't think a lot
Speaker 6: of people are considered.
Speaker 1: Got Ago.
Speaker 7: Said that there was like forty thousand years missing that, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I can't account for who was that?
Speaker 1: The Mayans? Who did I say then the Miyans took out?
Speaker 1: Was it the Miyons that took out the years?
Speaker 4: What was that cast? I remember that who was totally
Speaker 4: totally blew our mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was the Tartarian Explorer, might have been,
Speaker 1: could have been. I think it was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't doubt it either. I mean
Speaker 7: to try to had the floods, the Great floods and
Speaker 7: say so I'm gonna be different. So I mean, everything's
Speaker 7: a lie. Everything in the books.
Speaker 4: Are a lie.
Speaker 6: And well, it's funny. The calendars keep getting keep getting
Speaker 6: worse for some reason, right, Like the Agent calendars were
Speaker 6: really really accurate. But what we have today are are
Speaker 6: way off of all of these ancient calculations. How are
Speaker 6: they making those calculations back then? If you think about
Speaker 6: Stone Hinge and all of these other places where it's
Speaker 6: you know, like all of these things are aligned with
Speaker 6: these uh you know, cross things of of the planets
Speaker 6: at specific parts of the year. But now it's off,
Speaker 6: it's it's out of zinc. It's it's not in the
Speaker 6: same sort of dimension if you think about it, because
Speaker 6: now we're not in the same relationship to the Sun
Speaker 6: that we used to be. So something is changing. Maybe
Speaker 6: our alignment is creating a misalignment within us.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, do you.
Speaker 3: Think we switched Do you think that we switched timelines
Speaker 3: or switched constantly you think we do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, let's face it, there have to
Speaker 6: be some sort of energetic repercussions when you're working with
Speaker 6: the kind of masses that they're playing without it out
Speaker 6: of these atom smashers, you know. I mean, they're significantly
Speaker 6: changing the energetic ambeits of the planet. And you know,
Speaker 6: electromagnetics carry a lot of information. We're actually tapped into
Speaker 6: the electromagnetic grid of the Earth with our brains. So
Speaker 6: if you're gonna mess with that kind of stuff with
Speaker 6: these high energy experiments, yeah, you're gonna be messing with
Speaker 6: timelines like do we know the full potential of the
Speaker 6: human brain? Can we see or experience maybe other branches
Speaker 6: and possibly multi dimensions?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild thought.
Speaker 1: Do you think they answers to those questions are in
Speaker 1: the Vatican?
Speaker 6: I don't know. It seems like it would be the
Speaker 6: ultimate tool because you could just sort of make the
Speaker 6: past whatever you want it to be.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that stuff's possible with magic to
Speaker 2: an extent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Actually, Yes, as crazy as that sounds, I actually do
Speaker 2: think that is possible. I even think that's a lot
Speaker 2: of what back to the future was showing, especially the
Speaker 2: cause gotta go eighty eight miles per hour. Remember, there
Speaker 2: was so much cult symbolism in that shit. The date
Speaker 2: that they went back if you changed the count and
Speaker 2: go back to the old calendar, it's like Elius Ashmoll's birthday,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean I think I think Hellas was
Speaker 2: there too when we covered that, Like you remember that,
Speaker 2: they're like, you know how like towns will have that
Speaker 2: greeting board and we'll have like all those like fucking
Speaker 2: logos and signs. You have no idea what the fuck
Speaker 2: it is. All of them are all free Masonic orders.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: It was just like so much a cult symbolism in
Speaker 2: that movie.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 6: They have a big reference to nine to eleven at
Speaker 6: the end of the first movie too. So, I mean,
Speaker 6: it's crazy how these symbols keep transferring in these in
Speaker 6: these really interesting ways.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they tell you what's going to happen for sure,
Speaker 4: Good Mike, you want to say something.
Speaker 7: Like so you think so you think cern can happ
Speaker 7: us timelines or something like that equivalent.
Speaker 6: I think it can like merge consciousness. Right, So, if
Speaker 6: you think about the vastness of all these different multi verses.
Speaker 6: If you've got a way to create energy variation that
Speaker 6: causes you know what you think and what some other
Speaker 6: alternate dimension version of you is thinking, then you could
Speaker 6: believe that there is the cornucopia there with the fruit
Speaker 6: of the loom thing, because it's it's been put into
Speaker 6: your head somehow, right, But whether it was real and
Speaker 6: it's changed now, or whether it was never real and
Speaker 6: somehow it just happened as an artifact in your brain.
Speaker 6: How do we even know that's that?
Speaker 2: I like, how do we know? Like, we're not dead already,
Speaker 2: We're just trapped inside of a computer at this point, right, Yeah, Amla, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was already World War three and we didn't make enough.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the sum bitch you got my
Speaker 1: fucking player character.
Speaker 4: I did see one of those like I did see, uh,
Speaker 4: like a stupid meme that said we all actually died
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty and we're all like living this crazy
Speaker 4: you guys see that meme.
Speaker 2: I've seen stuff like that, which is why I kind
Speaker 2: of said what I said. Yeah, like we've been there
Speaker 2: for a while before we know, we're just fucking playing
Speaker 2: the sims.
Speaker 3: As soon as it's turned that thing on because that's
Speaker 3: when when did they turn it? Was it twenty twenty
Speaker 3: they turned that on.
Speaker 6: It's it's been a while.
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, hey, Rod changes have you heard of
Speaker 4: and these guys and these gentlemen might know a little
Speaker 4: bit about him. I just came across across it and
Speaker 4: I don't know where I saw it. The the Disney
Speaker 4: Club thirty three, Oh yeah, club and Disney. I want
Speaker 4: to hear about this, Like it's a private club thirty three.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what is the three the thirty three
Speaker 1: and the third degree?
Speaker 4: Mason Well, I mean, yeah, I know that, but I mean, like,
Speaker 4: what's up with this private club in Disney.
Speaker 2: I just remember seeing something I don't think. I watched
Speaker 2: like a half hour forty minute video on YouTube about
Speaker 2: it years ago, and I had never heard of it
Speaker 2: until I saw that. I was like wow, I was
Speaker 2: like those figures, you know, wasn't even like mad expensive,
Speaker 2: like they even had like I think, like goame.
Speaker 3: Like huge places to for a membership. You can't even
Speaker 3: get in there without a membership or be a guest
Speaker 3: of a member, super.
Speaker 4: Super for e lead private.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's very hidden within in the park and.
Speaker 4: It's a it's got a symbol. Like the symbol is
Speaker 4: super I mean, it's not a Masonic symbol.
Speaker 2: But I do think one of the restaurants was actually
Speaker 2: on a restaurant show. Yeah yeah, And like the shit
Speaker 2: is like so like ridiculous. You could just tell, like
Speaker 2: that's that boogie expensive stuff. Well I know that.
Speaker 5: Well when he was rough, when you took your kid there,
Speaker 5: you see a lot of symbols.
Speaker 1: I see a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they see the thirty three. I didn't find the
Speaker 3: Club thirty three though, I had no clue where that was.
Speaker 6: Well, Disney, he wasn't a Freemason, but he was in
Speaker 6: the De Malay Kids, which is the equivalent of their
Speaker 6: like children's club for the Freemasons, and so you know
Speaker 6: automatically that should be tossing red flags right there. It's like, wait,
Speaker 6: a second children's club for Freemasons.
Speaker 1: That's what he's in.
Speaker 6: And now he's putting all this Masonic symbolism all all
Speaker 6: over his movies and his animation. One of the main
Speaker 6: themes over and over again you see in the Disney
Speaker 6: movies is the checkerboard floors, which they have all over
Speaker 6: Club thirty three as well. It's very free Masonic. The
Speaker 6: checkerboard floors. Are you know all about that temple with
Speaker 6: the windows. Well, you know, if they're putting that sort
Speaker 6: of Masonic symbolism in there, then you really got to
Speaker 6: dig into the Masonic symbols themselves to figure out what
Speaker 6: they're trying to trying to say. So, like The Magician's
Speaker 6: Apprentice where you see Mickey Mouse sort of like as
Speaker 6: the Master's away, he's playing, right, So this actually goes
Speaker 6: back to a lot of the type of imagery you
Speaker 6: see out in Bohemian Grove, right, so the sort of
Speaker 6: the Master's gone, we're gonna we're gonna have fun all
Speaker 6: we can, you know, cares weaving spiders come out here.
Speaker 6: We're we're gonna be playing right now. And you see
Speaker 6: that same theme popping up again and again with Pinocchio, right,
Speaker 6: and Pinocchio goes to this island of Lost children because
Speaker 6: he's so can't take that.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful.
Speaker 6: But uh so, yeah, if you if you take that
Speaker 6: sort of same care free feeling, that eternal youth feeling
Speaker 6: that Disney is trying to produce, you get a lot
Speaker 6: of these Disney adults, you know, totally stunted people who
Speaker 6: only go to Disney. You know, every year they're in
Speaker 6: this club. Their entire life is Disney. I don't think
Speaker 6: that they actually eat, sleep, or breathe outside of the
Speaker 6: Disney cult. And because it's just so mainstream and so
Speaker 6: in your face, nobody really even thinks of it like that.
Speaker 6: But the Disney adult phenomena is huge, Like a lot
Speaker 6: of people are just inducted to that cult. Cradle to grave.
Speaker 4: Weird that is.
Speaker 3: It's so true though, because when we were there, like
Speaker 3: you see a lot of it, Like, you know, you
Speaker 3: see couples, like you shure on their honeymoon, Like we've
Speaker 3: seen a couple we run rides like waiting in line,
Speaker 3: you've seen a couple, you know, young couples in their
Speaker 3: honeymoon whatever. But then you've seen the old couples and
Speaker 3: there's not really any kids around, and you're kind of
Speaker 3: sitting there looking and it's like, damn, you go on
Speaker 3: vacation in your late forties early fifties to Disney and
Speaker 3: they got the ears on, they got the goofy hat
Speaker 3: with the ears flapping, like the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you kind of look at that person.
Speaker 3: You know that dude's jabbed up to the max, got
Speaker 3: the booster, shoved up the second sphincter like and enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's insane.
Speaker 4: I seen, I see some lady that got a Disney wedding,
Speaker 4: and she's gotten one for like they renew their vows
Speaker 4: every year for like the past fifteen years. She's spending
Speaker 4: like that. She's had all their like savings for the year,
Speaker 4: goes to like the Disney wedding. They're adults, Like, I'm like,
Speaker 4: what are you guys doing at this point? Like I heard,
Speaker 4: I heard about it, Like I got to look these guys,
Speaker 4: ob see what they look like, and they just totally
Speaker 4: fit the picture. Man's crazy's oh my god, pas exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys brought up Behemian growth. You think they're
Speaker 3: still I mean, none of it's so exposed. You still
Speaker 3: think they're doing their rituals up there? Do you think
Speaker 3: they're It's one of those things.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of what ritual magic is and
Speaker 6: how they test out these things and sort of induct
Speaker 6: it into society is over a long period of time.
Speaker 6: So it's like, if you think about all of those
Speaker 6: those rituals that they did out there as being sort
Speaker 6: of brought into society through pop music and all the
Speaker 6: rest of these different influences. They've already fully integrated their
Speaker 6: form of occultism or their ideas of society into our
Speaker 6: society subconsciously years and year decades ago. So they're still
Speaker 6: doing this, the whole human sacrifice Canaanite Phoenician thing in
Speaker 6: our minds over and over again. This is why you've
Speaker 6: got the Moloch worship and all of these different owl
Speaker 6: symbols being related back to this other thing. It's almost
Speaker 6: like perverting other symbols because if you know about the
Speaker 6: symbology of the owl, it was never associated with human sacrifice.
Speaker 6: That's something that they came up with out there Bohemian Grove,
Speaker 6: and they just sort of let it out like a
Speaker 6: fart in church. In other words, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I've seen something. I was a triple episode and
Speaker 3: I forget I was listening to it not too long ago.
Speaker 3: But the state of California is also kind of shaped
Speaker 3: as an owl. And to further like the ritual because
Speaker 3: that's like one of the main hubs, Bohemian Grove being
Speaker 3: there and all that as well.
Speaker 6: The whole club was started as a way for these
Speaker 6: artists to get together out in the woods and just
Speaker 6: you know, be away from the rest of the city
Speaker 6: because you know, it was a lot more taboo to
Speaker 6: be homosexual back at that time. So it was a
Speaker 6: gay club to start out with. And the elite sort
Speaker 6: of gravitated towards that place because of the fact that
Speaker 6: it was so private and so anywhere you've got a
Speaker 6: large degree of secrecy, that's where these people are going
Speaker 6: to flock to. That's their whole modus operandi is the
Speaker 6: more secrecy, the more elites you have attracted to it.
Speaker 6: That's that's sort of how you keep things moving. And
Speaker 6: Bohemian Club was even commented on by Richard Nixon in
Speaker 6: his presidential tapes. He called it the feist g d
Speaker 6: place he's ever seen, you know another.
Speaker 1: Right, So.
Speaker 6: It's a major part of American history and culture that
Speaker 6: doesn't get enough attention, obviously, but a lot of very
Speaker 6: prominent people have come and gone through Bohemian Club to
Speaker 6: that we would know every day, you know. But again
Speaker 6: they're not very open and public about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are at the ditty parties, know what, I.
Speaker 2: Think are probably discussed at that ship. Besides, like besides
Speaker 2: like you know business, Like I do wonder that too,
Speaker 2: because like, yeah, I would agree at some point people
Speaker 2: gotta agree on like who's gonna pull what ship up?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they're doing that together to strategize,
Speaker 2: because I do think so many of them are just
Speaker 2: involved together. I don't think one side is not working.
Speaker 1: With the other side.
Speaker 2: I think it's all orchestrated. Ye, Like even right now,
Speaker 2: just my opinion, this is like like we I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they're really trying to get and negar Go
Speaker 2: are going with this fucking ice ship. They're really trying
Speaker 2: to get motherfuckers that really hate each other right now,
Speaker 2: Like this is this might even be worse than George Floyd.
Speaker 1: Shit, I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna they're looking to get martial law
Speaker 3: and they're looking to start start reeling it stay by
Speaker 3: state because.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna get out of control.
Speaker 2: You know how long they've had fucking morons even mimicking
Speaker 2: that line right there, Marshal law is the only way.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've had that fucking idea and energy floating
Speaker 2: around for so fucking long thanks to all those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a weird times. I mean, I think magically,
Speaker 2: I think, like you know, black magic right now is
Speaker 2: on fucking impressidents.
Speaker 1: Fucking it is. It is scary times. It's fucking.
Speaker 3: To wonder what the next five years because I mean
Speaker 3: we think back in already seven years pretty much since
Speaker 3: COVID hit. But in the next five years, where where
Speaker 3: are we going to be? What the fuck like with
Speaker 3: technology number one, hey I and everything else. It's just
Speaker 3: where's that gonna take us to? What are they gonna
Speaker 3: what have they got off their sleeves in the next
Speaker 3: five oh?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, but the way that they don't come together,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of crazy ship.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have Jesus or a UFO in the next
Speaker 2: fucking couple of years. It's gonna be one of those
Speaker 2: you don't either an alien or Jesus is gonna be
Speaker 2: fucking I.
Speaker 4: Don't think, Blu believe. I think, but I think they're
Speaker 4: actually really gonna come.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be a fake And I
Speaker 4: think they're actually going to come. That's happening.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: We were talking about them, we were talking about betting
Speaker 7: earlier and now we're talking about you know, either Us
Speaker 7: or Jesus, and there's actually a prop bet Jesus will
Speaker 7: be here in twenty twenty six, and there's like hundreds
Speaker 7: of millions of dollars on this bet that Jesus is
Speaker 7: going to go.
Speaker 3: That's what people are going to get me a bet
Speaker 3: on you and I probably not going to get paid
Speaker 3: out if he's coming back.
Speaker 6: It all right, this is this is all just a
Speaker 6: great way to launder money though. I mean, that's one
Speaker 6: of the things. If you've got a massive betting market,
Speaker 6: this is the best way to start burning off some
Speaker 6: of the cash that you don't want people looking into,
Speaker 6: so keep it circulating.
Speaker 1: It's that or a Minnesota daycare money.
Speaker 6: Well, they found like what seventy million dollars was just
Speaker 6: flown straight out of the country in cash from these
Speaker 6: scams every year, just flown back to Somalia. And it's
Speaker 6: like shit, you have to know that people are getting
Speaker 6: their kickbacks. You can't go anywhere in the country with
Speaker 6: the stack of cash on you about getting harassed by
Speaker 6: some cop or some you know, border patrol agent. And
Speaker 6: they're just letting these people go in and out with
Speaker 6: millions and millions of dollars. Oh, I guess it's legal.
Speaker 6: When has that ever stopped the I R s from
Speaker 6: harassing people? They knew exactly what was going on for
Speaker 6: a long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were in on the take.
Speaker 5: I don't know how I got taken.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when Manduro, When Maduro got taken, and Venezuelan officials
Speaker 7: sent out that list of all the US politicians that
Speaker 7: were on the take.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, conshumor.
Speaker 1: Did you hear the one interview the weapon that it
Speaker 1: was alleged used.
Speaker 5: To where direct energy weapon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like oh yeah, yeah, I Yo, that thing is.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you know, I meant to go look into that.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you I think I even covered that possibly
Speaker 2: on a show in a patent. We're like, yo, that's
Speaker 2: like nothing new. Way hate to say that, Like I remember,
Speaker 2: I remember. I was just being kind of like a
Speaker 2: dick like around like I don't know, twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, when shit was getting crazy. You know, my
Speaker 2: part of my family is like, you know, crazy conservative.
Speaker 2: So you know, my uncle's like thinking, like people are
Speaker 2: gonna need the fucking guns. I'm like Jesus Christ, dude,
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I hate to tell you,
Speaker 2: but I was like, your little fucking rifles and shotguns
Speaker 2: ain't gonna gut, ain't gonna make mad at as shit
Speaker 2: when they flip a switch and they make the water
Speaker 2: and your body vibrates so much that you just follow
Speaker 2: the fucking floor and pain. I said, I don't. I
Speaker 2: was like, I hate to tell you, I'm not taking
Speaker 2: this side, but we're probably fucked. If the government really
Speaker 2: wanted to fuck us in the as well, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think we got a shot. Yeah, And I'm trying
Speaker 2: to sound fucking horrible at it. So when they have
Speaker 2: that type of technology, what the fuck they use it?
Speaker 1: And I think it was overseas they used it in
Speaker 1: like London or something against protesters.
Speaker 6: Use protesters, and so what are the side effects of
Speaker 6: this this radar is that it jams radio frequencies as well.
Speaker 6: So you could see during the riots, they had this
Speaker 6: big blackout in Washington, d C. Where everybody's phones were
Speaker 6: knocked out at the same time. And it's like they're
Speaker 6: using this electromagnetic pulse stuff and they might not be
Speaker 6: targeting people in terms of like you know, treating us
Speaker 6: like a microwave does, but they're definitely knocking out electronics.
Speaker 6: They could do either one with this stuff. It's the
Speaker 6: same sort of frequency, so it's microwave radiation. That's all
Speaker 6: they're using.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was an interview with like a head and
Speaker 7: Venezuelan soldier and and he was there like interviewing him
Speaker 7: about like with the incident.
Speaker 5: And he said that, like you just see him, you
Speaker 5: don't hear nothing.
Speaker 7: You see a couple of drones and then helicopters come
Speaker 7: down and the next thing that happens, he said, it
Speaker 7: was unexplainable, but hundreds of his shoulder soldiers just started
Speaker 7: bleeding and throwing up. Really used this weapon, and then yeah,
Speaker 7: he said, hundreds died. And he said not a single
Speaker 7: not a single US military guy died, he said, but
Speaker 7: he said, you you see a flash or whatever, and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden he looked over and everybody's
Speaker 7: bleeding and throwing up.
Speaker 1: I see that, I've seen.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: And he told her he even said he's like other leaders.
Speaker 7: He mentioned that Colombia and a couple others. He's like,
Speaker 7: think twice before you, like, he.
Speaker 3: Said something about they said Mexico, Mexico being next. Don't
Speaker 3: mess with the US or something they have not touched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants both people.
Speaker 1: He wants to go out with a bank.
Speaker 4: Nuts.
Speaker 1: He wants to a bank a bank. You know what's coming, boys,
Speaker 1: World War three is on a team.
Speaker 5: I think you guys think Trump's in a in a colt.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's big time. Yeah, I think they all off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got to be a high level, right right.
Speaker 2: I think he knows what he's doing. I think he's
Speaker 2: big into tumatra because I do think that like a
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff, a lot of phrases and shipped
Speaker 2: with qan on just when you start to look them up,
Speaker 2: they always seem to match whatever kind of fuckery is
Speaker 2: going on now. Like I could probably type something into
Speaker 2: like this's going on with this situation, and somehow it's
Speaker 2: gonna match, like let's go Brandon, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like something to that degree, or it's gonna match mar
Speaker 2: Largo or you know Donald Trump, Like you know, it's
Speaker 2: just like of course, like this weird shit do to
Speaker 2: you know, associated with politics is also associated with him.
Speaker 2: It's just weird when you see.
Speaker 7: Shit like that with numbers, right, wellyeah, general doesn't maga
Speaker 7: like mean sorcery in Lenin or something like it.
Speaker 2: And it's like a degree at the temple has set
Speaker 2: I think too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, General Flynn. General Flynn did a prayer up in
Speaker 6: front of a conservative audience where he's reading verbatim this, uh,
Speaker 6: this prayer by this woman who was a theosophist, and
Speaker 6: this was a prayer about the sevenfold rays of light.
Speaker 6: And so he's repeating this in front of a bunch
Speaker 6: of Christians. But it's it's from a theosophist, which is
Speaker 6: not Christianity. It's it's something that sort of tries to
Speaker 6: unite all the different religions into one thing. It was
Speaker 6: really huge turn of the century in America. I don't
Speaker 6: know if you guys have heard of theosophy. But what
Speaker 6: was your name again?
Speaker 1: Lathing?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, Elizabeth something. She was from the
Speaker 6: nineteen eighties. Oh, look it out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Not sure.
Speaker 2: Theosophy is pretty big. That's huge. Actually, I don't think either.
Speaker 2: That's so like a thing that you'll see like probably
Speaker 2: like that. A gnosticism is probably kind of big symbolism
Speaker 2: with it. Movies and shit too, people.
Speaker 1: Catch we had Mark from my family. Thinks I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh nice.
Speaker 3: One of our first episodes that he got into gnocissism.
Speaker 3: That was a good episode for anybody want to learn
Speaker 3: about that. Go back and check that episode out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, episode one if you guys want to see it.
Speaker 2: We had a lot for I think German ocultism or
Speaker 2: some shit like that. I can't remember. That was a
Speaker 2: fun show.
Speaker 6: I got the Michael Flynn prayer. This one's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the seventh rage player.
Speaker 5: I'll those sevenfold raise and all your archangels.
Speaker 1: All of them.
Speaker 9: Hi, I'm here, Oh God, and I am the instrument
Speaker 9: of those seven cold he's and arcane jels.
Speaker 4: We will not retreat. We will not retreat. We will
Speaker 4: stand our ground, and I.
Speaker 2: Will not retreat.
Speaker 9: I will take my stand well.
Speaker 4: We will not fear to speak.
Speaker 5: We will be the instrument of your will, whatever it is.
Speaker 9: I will not there to speak, and I will be
Speaker 9: the instrument of God's will whatever it is.
Speaker 1: In your name and the name of your legions.
Speaker 9: Here I am so help me God, in the name
Speaker 9: of our kingdom, Michael Lenny's legions.
Speaker 4: We are free born, and we shall remain freeborn.
Speaker 9: I am freeborn, and I shall remain freeborn.
Speaker 6: And we shall not be enslaved.
Speaker 9: By any foe within or without, And I shall not
Speaker 9: be enslaved by any foe within or without.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, what what is going on with that? Is
Speaker 6: he doing an a cult ritual up on stage in
Speaker 6: front of everybody? And uh, it's a Christian all right?
Speaker 2: Well, Gnocissism very Christian a Catholic look or feel to it.
Speaker 3: You think even in the Christian religion, the Catholic religion,
Speaker 3: you think when they're in church, do you think those
Speaker 3: prayers are just spells that they're a rituals they're doing anyway,
Speaker 3: Church usually.
Speaker 2: Ritualistic fols is hugely rituals, I think. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's all of those things that they're
Speaker 2: doing make any sense or it works for them, but
Speaker 2: I do think.
Speaker 1: It's very.
Speaker 4: What's that, Mike, I'm looking at no doubt. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've never seen them do anything like that in church,
Speaker 4: the church that I go, oh no, no.
Speaker 2: Nothing like that. Yeah, I haven't seen that either. Oh
Speaker 2: maybe at a Baptist church. You make it some shit
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Maybe.
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Speaker 6: me at the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com
Speaker 6: and me and Nick will read your emails. On Thursday,
Speaker 6: it's a good time we bring our symbols and so
Speaker 6: you guys can participate learning about these new symbols that
Speaker 6: we've just discovered too, So check that out on Thursdays.
Speaker 6: And on Tuesdays we do seven seven seven We go
Speaker 6: over there Cabala of Alistair Crowley, which is very valuable.
Speaker 6: If you're going to start to decode some of this
Speaker 6: conspiracy stuff that's going on around you, you got to
Speaker 6: know exactly what these guys were thinking because they had
Speaker 6: a big impact on it. So definitely check that out
Speaker 6: as well. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we got the Occult Rejects, which shall this
Speaker 2: is a part of that and probably like I don't know,
Speaker 2: five or six seven other people. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: girls and a bunch of other guys on the show,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, the cult ragects that's bitch you rumble
Speaker 2: YouTube and all major podcasts, and I do also have
Speaker 2: a cult a cult research institute dot org. I do
Speaker 2: forget about that. To plug the website, that's a lot
Speaker 2: if you're into reading. There's people on there that from
Speaker 2: the show or even people that aren't on the show
Speaker 2: that have like taken the time to add stuff to
Speaker 2: the site. And there's like a ton of shit that
Speaker 2: I've added, like on an old prior occultist, alchemists, you
Speaker 2: know whatever you want to call mystics, saints on there too,
Speaker 2: just to give you, you know, ideas of like what
Speaker 2: they were into at the time they were around. And
Speaker 2: it's heavily different than what most people think it is now.
Speaker 1: So what was that website? One more time?
Speaker 2: Cult Research Institute dot org institute. Yes, and yeah, definitely
Speaker 2: checked out. If people are into reading, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of shit on there to read. So yeah, we have
Speaker 2: all that going on. Thank you very much, man, I
Speaker 2: had a great time. I appreciate you guys thanking on.
Speaker 3: Definitely get you guys back on the future some more lives. Man,
Speaker 3: This was a good time.
Speaker 1: Bring some more of the crew on as we Yeah
Speaker 1: we can, you guys, real so deep, for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: I'd love to meet some of the other crew.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got some great characters to
Speaker 2: bring on for sure.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
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