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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yum yo, how does Sasa Jonnifer Leasberry Jukes.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, this is Tom Chapin.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, just preaching in Rock and Roll History Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to the latest installment of the Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 6>History Show. And no, I did not kidnap Brian and

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<v Speaker 6>lock him in a closet. He's here, but they're going

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<v Speaker 6>to torture me today, so I get to leave the show. Fun, fun, fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Every so often we do an episode where it's all

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<v Speaker 6>about songs with an instrument that one of us hates,

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<v Speaker 6>and we've already done Barbara with the ukulele and Mercedes

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<v Speaker 6>with the harp. So now it's my turn. And what

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<v Speaker 6>instrument do I usually hate to hear? Harmonic? Before we

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<v Speaker 6>get started, let me introduce the Corimbos. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 6>our usual host Ryan. Ryan used to play bass by ear,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's doing much better now because he's switched to

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<v Speaker 6>using his hands. Go. Neil heard a rumor about butter,

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<v Speaker 6>but he decided not to spread it.

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<v Speaker 7>People lies or lies, and you do everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Mercedes from Silver Screen saw a skeleton walk into a

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<v Speaker 6>bar and she wanted to see what happened. The skeleton

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<v Speaker 6>said to the bartender, a bartender, I'll have one beer

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<v Speaker 6>and a mop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, hey, everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Barbara feel from shaving cream. She saw a snowman throwing

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<v Speaker 6>a tantrum. It was a real meltdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good one.

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<v Speaker 8>Gil and.

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<v Speaker 6>A retired teacher John got carded at a liquor store

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<v Speaker 6>and he went to take out his license from his

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<v Speaker 6>wallet and his Blockbuster card fell out by mistake. The

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<v Speaker 6>cashier said, never mind.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Blockbuster brings brings up a lot of good.

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<v Speaker 10>Running to Blockbuster to get that, uh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 10>latest release before the you know, thirty other people went

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<v Speaker 10>clamber to get it as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you know, adjacent to go into the record store.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, all the time. Yeah, you go to block.

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<v Speaker 10>At a Blockbuster, go to the record store, grab a slice,

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<v Speaker 10>grab some pizza.

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<v Speaker 9>Bring it home.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, popcorn.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, good times.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you scroll endless screens on Netflix going nah yeah doom.

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<v Speaker 10>Scroll for like three hours trying to find something.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't I don't have any of the streaming channels,

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<v Speaker 6>so I don't even know like how that is. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>so before we get started with the songs, one of

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<v Speaker 6>which I actually really love, so it's not going to

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<v Speaker 6>be torturing me at all in spite of the harmonica. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>let's talk a little bit about harmonic, because it's considered

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<v Speaker 6>a loose reed instrument, and these poor people. Loose read

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<v Speaker 6>instruments not to be confused with lou reed instruments, date

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<v Speaker 6>back to China around eleven hundred BC. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>they tortured people even back then. What we would recognize

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<v Speaker 6>as a mouth organ. I'd rather have a kidney or liver,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you. Dates to around eighteen twenty when it spread

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<v Speaker 6>around Europe, Oh God help them, and into the US.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, And that's when the evil began. It was fun, huh.

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<v Speaker 6>That's subjective, portable, and relatively inexpensive. A German clock maker

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<v Speaker 6>named Matthias Hohner started the Honer Company in eighteen fifty

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<v Speaker 6>seven when he realized that custom clocks were fading in popularity. Personally,

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<v Speaker 6>I think a custom clock would be really cool, much

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<v Speaker 6>less annoying, sound wise.

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<v Speaker 9>Way more expensive.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. He started selling harmonicas in Germany, those poor people,

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<v Speaker 9>From there they.

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<v Speaker 6>Are still by far the biggest selling brand. It's popularity.

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<v Speaker 6>Soword after World War One and lasted through World War Two,

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of these old World War One movies

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<v Speaker 6>you see these guys, one guy is sitting around mournfully

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<v Speaker 6>playing the harmonica.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of Western a lot of Western movies have that. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting cowboy by the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>So the popularity lasted through World War II, when it

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<v Speaker 6>in the folk music revival of the nineteen sixties, which

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<v Speaker 6>is why I am mostly not a folk music.

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<v Speaker 4>You might want to be kind of grateful because it

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<v Speaker 4>got Bob Billin to stop singing for a minute.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh goodness. So I believe that. First to start out

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I will ask a rhetorical question before

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<v Speaker 2>we start into Gail. Is that I mean, you've professed

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<v Speaker 2>here on the Rock and Roll History Show your love

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<v Speaker 2>of the blues and the harmonica is like, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the number one instrument in blues and and and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't you don't have to answer.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just like, it's no, I can explain it totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>It depends on the type of harmonica playing. If it's

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<v Speaker 6>the high pitched shrieky like some of Stevie Wonders music

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<v Speaker 6>has that type the high pitched, shrieky, kind of gritty

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<v Speaker 6>sounding harmonica. Hate it, absolutely hate it. It literally is

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<v Speaker 6>physically disturbing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, let just you know we.

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<v Speaker 4>Should want you to pick Stevie wonder Then.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to make sure I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't have ear plugs inside your headphones. That's cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to listen. You have to listen.

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<v Speaker 6>Rats. I thought I had the situation solved.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you because when the topic of torture

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<v Speaker 2>or the torture topic of the harmonica came up, when

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<v Speaker 2>it was first mentioned, I immediately thought of the Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Giles band. Now, not the Jay Giles band that dominated

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineteen eighties MTV charts with a mainstream, semi

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<v Speaker 2>new wave commercial sound. Oh no, no, no, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the Jay Giles band that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>back in the early nineteen seventies as a young high

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<v Speaker 2>school teenager at places like the Fillmore East and the

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<v Speaker 2>Academy of Music down in Manhattan in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>A simple R and B influenced blues rock group that

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<v Speaker 2>just happened to kick major ass. Okay, let's talk about them.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jay Giles Band were formed in Boston or the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston area in nineteen sixty seven. Original members included the

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<v Speaker 2>band's namesake, John Giles but you can call him Jay

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<v Speaker 2>On guitar, singer and frontman extraordinaire Peter Wolfe, keyboardist Seth Justman,

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<v Speaker 2>bassist Danny Klein, drummer Stephen Joe Blad and the man

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<v Speaker 2>at the center of our topic today, mister Richard Solwitz,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can call him Magic Dick or as Peter

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<v Speaker 2>wolf would call him magic Dick on the licking stick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew you'd like that, and we'll have more

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<v Speaker 2>about him later. But The Jay Giles Band released their

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<v Speaker 2>eponymously titled debut album in late nineteen seventy and although

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<v Speaker 2>the song We're about to hear called Whammer Jammer didn't

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<v Speaker 2>appear until their second album, called The Morning After, which

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<v Speaker 2>was released in late nineteen seventy one, it was already

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<v Speaker 2>a staple of their live shows, and it would later

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<v Speaker 2>appear on a live LP called Full House in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two. Now generally the main focus of the band

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<v Speaker 2>was there, flamboyant frontman Peter Wolf with his rapid fire

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<v Speaker 2>between song banter and his swagger like Mick Jagger. But

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<v Speaker 2>on this song an instrumental, no words, it's whammer jammer,

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<v Speaker 2>where Magic Dick took center stage.

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<v Speaker 11>Sometimes drinking hand comes shrinking hand time, baking, Baking had

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<v Speaker 11>story entire tab.

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<v Speaker 12>The root sign, the rock.

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<v Speaker 11>Your cap, your cap saying since thank you?

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<v Speaker 7>Seconds All right, Gail, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your reaction to wamma jammer?

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<v Speaker 6>I'd rather not ever hear it again?

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<v Speaker 2>If people at home listening at home, If if you

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<v Speaker 2>could see her, it looked like she was We were

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<v Speaker 2>watching her, Yes, a big bite out of a lemon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're watching her face contort all through that.

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<v Speaker 10>It was Yes, that was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it rocks? Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a little easier to handle when the other

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<v Speaker 6>instruments came in too, so I wasn't just listening to

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<v Speaker 4>If we had turned down the volume on our headphones,

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<v Speaker 4>we could tell the pitch of the harmonica by the

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<v Speaker 4>scrunch on Gail's face.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, yeah, I don't even have to say anything,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike gooms my face has subtitles.

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<v Speaker 4>If we ever played poker, Invite Gael.

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<v Speaker 6>At this point in my life, I wouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 6>able to remember the rules of this state.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get back to Magic Dick, like I said before. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born in New London, Connecticut, in nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to the harmonica, he also plays the trumpet

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<v Speaker 2>and the saxophone, and in nineteen seventy nine, music critic

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Marsh described Magic Dick as quote possibly the best

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<v Speaker 2>white musician to ever play blues harmonica. Now I take

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<v Speaker 2>a little lumberge, I would say simply he was the

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<v Speaker 2>best musician period to play blues harmonica, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. But I'll get off my soapbox. Magic

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<v Speaker 2>Dick also co created a harmonica design called appropriately the

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Harmonica, and he's still based in the Boston area

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<v Speaker 2>and he is a member of the Cambridge Harmonica Orchestra. Gail,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get tickets? Oh god, I'll take that

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<v Speaker 2>as a yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, What an abomination road trip?

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<v Speaker 4>How I really feel?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cambridge Harmonica Orchestra front row, all right, the Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Giles band did have several top forty singles in the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen seventies, but as I mentioned earlier, the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of their success came in the nineteen eighties, with hits

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<v Speaker 2>like Freeze, Frames, Centerfold and of Course Loves Things So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'll say I like those records too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was always partial to the earlier stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I heard first. So just to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows my eighties bias somewhat, but no, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>those songs too, so don't worry. So but what does

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<v Speaker 2>a band do after striving for years to reach the

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<v Speaker 2>top and they finally make it in the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>what do they do?

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<v Speaker 6>Stop making shrieking sounds?

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<v Speaker 2>No? They break up? Of course? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Wolf left the band in nineteen eighty three to

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<v Speaker 2>pursue a solo career. The band did release one more

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<v Speaker 2>album without Wolf in nineteen eighty four, before breaking up

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<v Speaker 2>for good in nineteen eighty five, But beginning in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, the band did get back together for several

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<v Speaker 2>reunion tours with and without Jay Giles, the latter resulting

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<v Speaker 2>in a bitter lawsuit over the use of the guitarist name,

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<v Speaker 2>as you might think, being that the Jay Giles Band

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<v Speaker 2>did not have a Jay Giles in them at that point. Anyway, Sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>J Giles himself passed away in twenty seventeen. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Giles Band, they were nominated for induction into the

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<v Speaker 2>Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, not once, not twice,

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<v Speaker 2>five different times, but were not voted in on any

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<v Speaker 2>of those attempts. So that I find that criminal. I

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<v Speaker 2>find that felonious. I find that is why I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really take much stock in the Rock and Roll Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame, because that's crazy that they and the people

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<v Speaker 2>that they do induct. No, no, this is there is

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<v Speaker 2>no justice. But as I also mentioned, I did get

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<v Speaker 2>to see the band live a number of times throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies, and they always were incredible. Peter Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>is out there too. I've seen him solo and he's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also got to see Magic Dick perform along

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<v Speaker 2>with a guitarist named Seun Eng as an acoustic duo

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<v Speaker 2>and they were great. That was up at Daryl's house

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<v Speaker 2>in paul in, New York, and that was back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. So he's still out there playing too, So

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<v Speaker 2>get out there and catch these people. That's all I

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<v Speaker 6>And Gail, I hope you liked it well, Neil, that

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<v Speaker 6>was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. I can see how happy you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm surprised you don't have alcohol in front.

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<v Speaker 12>Of you right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I do have a bottle of wine in the other room.

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<v Speaker 6>I should go get it. So John, what do you have?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 10>You might like this, you might not because there's a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of harmonica in it, but there's also a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of guitar in it as well, so the selection is

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<v Speaker 10>a little long tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>It's the work song.

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<v Speaker 10>By the late great Paul Butterfield and the Paul Butterfield

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<v Speaker 10>Blues Band from nineteen sixty six. It was from their

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<v Speaker 10>East West, their second album, East West, released in August

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<v Speaker 10>of that year. And Paul Butterfield does the harmonica and

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<v Speaker 10>Mike Bloomfield does the guitar, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 10>a classic. It's a bit of a long one. So

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<v Speaker 10>I think we're gonna do about three three and a

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<v Speaker 10>half minutes and then we're gonna kind of fade out

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<v Speaker 10>from there, and then I'll just say tell you a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit, a little bit of a teaser after that

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<v Speaker 10>as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So, Gail, I.

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<v Speaker 10>Hope you enjoy this little this little blues selection Butterfield

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<v Speaker 10>blues band.

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<v Speaker 8>So enjoys.

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<v Speaker 12>Sn the style montas.

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<v Speaker 10>Sometimes okay, And that was the work song by Paul

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<v Speaker 10>Butterfield and Mike Bloomfield.

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<v Speaker 9>Great song.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, it's got a great beat.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 10>It goes on for about seven and a half minutes scales,

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<v Speaker 10>so there's a lot more after that. So uh, we

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<v Speaker 10>were kind enough to only give you about three and

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<v Speaker 10>a half minutes.

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<v Speaker 6>There, but thank you. Actually I liked the guitars and

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<v Speaker 6>the percussion and the keyboard.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, it's it's it's got a lot of bass.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, sorry the bass, yes, the back all right, then,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you meant it or not, you have to say it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got a lot to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was They were a good band.

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<v Speaker 10>That a really great I mean, and to think what

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<v Speaker 10>they could have achieved had both Bloomfield and Butterfield not

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<v Speaker 10>engaged in a lot of recreational pharmacology, which led to

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<v Speaker 10>their demise. Mister Butterfield nineteen eighty seven in Bloomfield in

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<v Speaker 10>eighty one, I believe. So again, it's a great piece

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<v Speaker 10>of music, but gone too soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So but hope you know, I know this will shock you,

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<v Speaker 2>But I did get to see a later version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Butterfly Field Blues Band, not the one we just

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<v Speaker 2>heard right, probably just a couple of years later. It

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<v Speaker 2>was probably around nineteen seventy one. Yeah, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>still great. Yeah, it was still the same groove going there.

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<v Speaker 10>That kind of music is a kind of music I

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<v Speaker 10>would love to just listen to in like a smoky

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<v Speaker 10>bar somewhere, you know, and just.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>You obviously don't have asthma like I do, well.

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<v Speaker 10>I could do that pretty bad lung problems, but still

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<v Speaker 10>would have been a fun thing to just kind of

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<v Speaker 10>just kick back and hill with a drink in hand

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<v Speaker 10>and a low key kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Smoky bar and just kind of take in that harmonica.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the kind of thing I think, even if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't necessarily like it, when it's live.

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<v Speaker 9>For some reason, it just hits better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly play it, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>No, you're right, You're you're right, Brian.

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<v Speaker 10>It's just I could see enjoying that down in Pyramont

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<v Speaker 10>at what's the club down in Pyramount? We go to

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<v Speaker 10>uh point yes, I would love I would love to

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<v Speaker 10>hear somebody do that kind of a do a remake

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<v Speaker 10>of it at the turning point. That'd be a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of fun, I really would So anyway.

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<v Speaker 9>I hope you all enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 8>Gail, it was a pleasure to uh.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, well I survived that one. But we need

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<v Speaker 6>to take a very quick break.

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<v Speaker 11>A y.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, so we're back at the middle section of

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<v Speaker 6>today's Rock and Roll History Show episode where my fellow

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<v Speaker 6>crambones are torturing me with songs of my least favorite instrument,

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<v Speaker 6>the harmonica. Up next is Barbara. What do you have

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<v Speaker 6>to drive me nuts? Barbara?

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<v Speaker 1>First, I want to say when you were telling us

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the Harmonica, I loved your little commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>That is excellent.

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<v Speaker 9>The poor Chinese.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my gods, wait wait till you see Sunday at church,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to give a talk on St. Teresa of Avola,

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<v Speaker 6>and I put little things like that in there. When

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<v Speaker 6>I'm giving my talks about saints, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>why everybody shows up when we only have morning prayer

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm the one doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Gone, Jesus may have suffered, but I had to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the harmonica.

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<v Speaker 13>No.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I usually start out saints, Who are they, what

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<v Speaker 6>do they do? And why do we like them?

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent? Excellent. So besides saying that praise on your commentary,

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<v Speaker 1>the second thing I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>To say is more.

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<v Speaker 1>And the song I chose to torture Gale for today's

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<v Speaker 1>theme is called I Want My Mama and it's by

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<v Speaker 1>Salty Holmes. Born Floyd Holmes on March sixth, nineteen ten

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. He played jug and guitar, but was famous

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<v Speaker 1>for his harmonica playing. He specialized in the style called

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<v Speaker 1>talking harp, in which the harmonica sounds like a human voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh joy, I'm twirling my imaginary mustache right now. Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>formed the group the Kentucky Ramblers in nineteen thirty, but

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<v Speaker 1>they changed their name to the Prairie Ramblers three years

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<v Speaker 1>later and began broadcasting on WLSAM in Chicago. I Want

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<v Speaker 1>My Mama was recorded during the nineteen forties, but I

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<v Speaker 1>could not find an exact date, despite searching multiple sites.

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<v Speaker 1>The recording we Will Hear was included on the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five compilation album Harmonica Masters, which I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>gifting to Gail next Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>She needs another coaster, don't waste the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of all harmonica songs, I chose this one especially

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<v Speaker 1>for Gail because not only does it feature the dreaded harmonica,

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<v Speaker 1>but Holmes makes it sound like a child crying.

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<v Speaker 6>I want my.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the torture begin.

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<v Speaker 6>Harmonica and crying children, do I know?

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<v Speaker 7>Gil? And no Gail.

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<v Speaker 6>Lame from.

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<v Speaker 11>No No no no.

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<v Speaker 8>M m m.

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<v Speaker 12>M la La La from no no no no no

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<v Speaker 12>no no no no.

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<v Speaker 11>L l la la la.

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<v Speaker 13>La la la la la la la la la la

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<v Speaker 13>la la.

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<v Speaker 6>La la l l l l l l l l

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<v Speaker 11>l l.

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<v Speaker 6>L l l l la la la la la.

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<v Speaker 12>La la la la la la la la.

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<v Speaker 13>La la la la.

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<v Speaker 11>La la lo lo lo.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, before I proceed, Gail, what say you?

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<v Speaker 6>That was interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>I cringe.

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<v Speaker 6>I like the old timy sounds. I do too. I

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<v Speaker 6>swear they don't have talent like that nowadays. That could

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<v Speaker 6>do the same thing. It was fascinating to me to

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<v Speaker 6>figure out or try to figure out how the performer

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<v Speaker 6>was making those sounds, the quick inhale exhale things. I

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<v Speaker 6>could maybe do that twice and then I would need

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<v Speaker 6>my asthma inhaler. So I'm surprised. You know, maybe he

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<v Speaker 6>had an oxygen tank waiting for when he was done.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>My tombstone would actually say died by playing harmonica too fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's like a ditchery too, isn't it

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<v Speaker 3>Like you breathe in and out at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you get you get different sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Breath.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's what you do when your coffee is

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<v Speaker 4>too high, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the harmonica is actually it's not an

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<v Speaker 2>at least to me, not an easy instrument to play.

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<v Speaker 6>It's easy to start, it's very difficult, not if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to get specific sounds out of it, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to like like block certain you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a little series of holes. Everybody knows what they look like,

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 6>I had one as a child.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you had idea too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to block the ones you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to blow through. Most of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, most of them exhale. When you inhale, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>half step off. Yeah, that's it's in out and out now.

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<v Speaker 9>But you have to like you're looking for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to get to the right one and block out

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<v Speaker 2>the other ones with your tongue. And I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>having like you know, you know, blostlelia, a petite mall seizure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, yeah, I had epilepsy. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I've tried. I said, nope, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one instrument I can check off the list that Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not.

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<v Speaker 4>I did figure out how to bend a note. You know, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I figured out how to do that. Okay, okay, now

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<v Speaker 4>to do it on the right pitch.

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<v Speaker 9>At the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>You no. Oh. Then then there's the chromatic ones that

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<v Speaker 2>have another little thing on the side that changes everything again.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's not yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll see something we haven't talked about is most of

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<v Speaker 4>them are keyed, so you're, you know, whatever key the

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<v Speaker 4>song is in. Usually take a harmonica that's a fourth hire,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a whole music theory thing, but it's for

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<v Speaker 4>that key for that song, which is why you know,

432
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 4>like John Popper from Blues Traveler as a.

433
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 6>Whole, like ten different harmonica usually.

434
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Twelve yeah, depending on what you would play Yeah, drive

435
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 4>me crazy, yeah, depending and then one yeah, one.

436
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 1>One giant harmonica and just put all the crambones at

437
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>different stations along the giant harmonica and we all play

438
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 1>our own were.

439
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Blow breath there into each other's spells.

440
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 6>No, not a good idea.

441
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 9>You know what, we'll call the song COVID two.

442
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 6>Yes, okay.

443
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So the Prairie Ramblers produced over one hundred recordings between

444
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty three and nineteen forty. They continued performing until

445
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty two, playing country hillbilly, which you probably figured

446
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>out when I mentioned that Holmes played the jug and

447
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>pop music while performing with the Prairie Ramblers. Homes before

448
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 1>did Geene Autry, who invited him to go to Hollywood

449
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>and star in westerns, which he did, And we talked

450
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>about Cowboy by the Fire before, so there you go.

451
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>In one of his films called Arizona Days, he played

452
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>two harmonicas at once, using both his mouth and nose.

453
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 6>It could be worse. It could be worse.

454
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it could have been mouthed something else. Oh no,

455
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 4>the vertical harmonica.

456
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Man, Oh my.

457
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 8>God, nasty guys.

458
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 1>So the Prairie Ramblers also backed Autrey in the nineteen

459
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 1>thirties on some of his recordings. Now that's all I

460
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>have about Salty Homes. But I did want to mention

461
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 1>that I was driving home, not Holmes home, the other

462
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>night and I had serious ExM on in the car

463
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 1>and I heard this song that was all harmonica, and

464
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the they announced that the artist was called Little Walter

465
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was the only artist inducted into the Rock

466
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and Roll Hall of Fame specifically as a harmonica player.

467
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>So of course by the time I got home, I

468
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 1>forgot his name.

469
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 14>So I had a Google only artists inducted into the

470
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 14>Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a harmonica So

471
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 14>then this came up with a little bio and I

472
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 14>found out he was actually born May first, nineteen thirty

473
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 14>and he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall

474
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 14>of Fame in two thousand and eight, and that that

475
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 14>was irrelevant.

476
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>That answered they only have room for one harmonica player,

477
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and he took it. That's why Jay Giles never got in.

478
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the reason be it.

479
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 9>They did take up a lot of space.

480
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, you know you have to have like

481
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve or you know whatever.

482
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 6>I want the rock and Roll Hall of Fame to

483
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 6>be full of harmonica players for God's sake.

484
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Well you need to vote. Remember when the rock and

485
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Roll Hall of Fame was good and there were no

486
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 1>harmonica players.

487
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Remember when it was when it was rock and roll?

488
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, exactly, And just a side note here too. Now,

489
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe I met misread this, but did MTV like go

490
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 2>off the air entirely?

491
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 4>And I heard, yeah, the music channel, not the main MTV. Okay,

492
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 4>I believe it was called v H one Classics for

493
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 4>a while and then it became m t V two

494
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 4>or something.

495
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 6>I know they still had anyone with Well that's the problem.

496
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 4>That's why it went off the airs, because nobody did.

497
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 4>So the one channel they had that still played music videos,

498
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 4>they shut that one down.

499
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>And at least they played the Buggles as they.

500
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Signed circle at least.

501
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

502
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that that, Yeah, that clears that up. Because

503
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I didn't quite I have to.

504
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 9>Admit I didn't watch it either.

505
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Now I feel guilty, but I have such good memories.

506
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Tommy had it, my husband had it, and I didn't

507
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>have it yet, And I would go to his apartment

508
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 3>when we first met, and like, I would just sit

509
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 3>there glued to the.

510
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, high school boyfriend, same thing he had it,

511
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and my father would never let us get cable, so

512
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I would go to my boyfriend's house and watch it

513
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, same thing, be glued to the TV.

514
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, totally totally.

515
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 6>So that was that was a gone memory now so

516
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 6>that I've got. So that's all I got, Mercedes, what

517
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 6>song do you have? Thank you? Barbara welcome. Okay.

518
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh, so, as a feminist, I need to preface my

519
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>song with some thoughts. The song is good girls don't

520
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>by the neck. And while I love the song, it

521
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.440
<v Speaker 3>does make me super uncomfortable, and it's not because of

522
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 3>the harmonica. You can tell me how you feel about

523
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 3>that later, Gail. The song was released in nineteen seventy

524
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 3>nine by Doug Fieger as a follow up to the

525
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>band's hit single My Sharona, which was about his girlfriend

526
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Sharona Alperin, who was seventeen while he was twenty five.

527
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Obviously obviously not the largest age gap we know about

528
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 3>in the rock and roll world, but lyrics in My

529
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Sharona like such a dirty mind. I always get it

530
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 3>up for the touch of the younger kind might be

531
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 3>an issue if it was released today.

532
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah.

533
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 3>And teen Sharona herself appears on the singles picture sleeve

534
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 3>looking like the winner of a quote unquote wet t

535
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 3>shirt contest. According to Rock and Roll Globe dot Com,

536
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.639
<v Speaker 3>this would have been a good addition to our song

537
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>our show on songs that could not have been released today,

538
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.639
<v Speaker 3>which we did quite a long time.

539
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 9>That was a while ago.

540
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah.

541
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 3>Robert Christau Chris Gow, a critic for The Village Voice,

542
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 3>wrote in his review of the record, if they felt

543
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 3>this way about girls when they were unknowns, I shuddered

544
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 3>to think how they're reacting to groupies. Yikes.

545
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

546
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>A quote from Rock and Roll Globe dot Com says,

547
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 3>if you google get the nec and misogyny, you will

548
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 3>not be lacking in search results. And by the way,

549
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 3>that's exactly what I had done. It's been observed many

550
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 3>times over the years from nineteen seventy nine to the

551
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 3>present that fig Figer, I keep wanting to put an

552
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 3>l in there, doesn't exactly come across as a champion

553
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 3>of women in some of these songs that in itself

554
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>would unfortunately not be newsworthy for a rock record in

555
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 3>the seventies, but even for the time, these tunes took

556
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 3>sexism to another level. The article goes on to say,

557
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 3>without getting into quotations, that it simply be said that

558
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 3>at least half the album songs feature either women hating, horny, creepiness, emotional, stunted,

559
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 3>pre prurious, pre pruians, purians, or some combination of all

560
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 3>the above. You can just guess what that word was.

561
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Some other critics said this. Critic Grile Marcus described the

562
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 3>song as a smutty like Beatles imitation. Author John Borak

563
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 3>described the song as a mean pop tune, noting two

564
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 3>that in the song lead singer and songwriter figure comes

565
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 3>off like a leering, sexist twit with hormones raging. So

566
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 3>something I learned while researching this is that there are

567
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>two versions of this song, a clean and an explicit version.

568
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 3>My roommate and I used to sing this at all

569
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the time in college at the top of our lungs,

570
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 3>and when I was getting ready for the show, I

571
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>kept thinking, wheet what I didn't have any memory of

572
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>it being that suggestive and valerie. I hope you're listening tonight.

573
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I actually don't know which one we're hearing today, so

574
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna.

575
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 11>Have to pray and see what happens.

576
00:42:17.519 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 15>Cringe, the Girls Do, the Girls doxis one stop today,

577
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 15>the Girl's Dolls.

578
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 12>The Girl's Doves, the Girls Dog Sad that's one of

579
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 12>the stops to taste.

580
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:56.000
<v Speaker 13>The Girl's Dove, the Girls Dogs, the Girls Dog, Girl's Dove,

581
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 13>the Girl's Dogs.

582
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the clean version. I'm serious. I had

583
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 3>never heard the explicit version, and I was listening to it.

584
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 3>I guess it was today or maybe yesterday, and I

585
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, wow, oh my god. And then when I

586
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 3>went back to the clean version, I was like, okay,

587
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>this is how I remember.

588
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that, Yeah, this is the only one that

589
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I remember hearing. I mean, yeah, well it's it's like,

590
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it's naughty, it's unclean. I won't say it's obscene.

591
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 6>Correct, it's yeah.

592
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 3>But go to YouTube and check out the explicit version,

593
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 3>which is not it's not disgusting.

594
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 4>In twenty twenty six, explicit.

595
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It's well let's let's let's let's go back. You know,

596
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>in the in the eight seventies there it was not

597
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>exactly the most politically correct time. I mean, listen to

598
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 2>some girls by the Rolling Stones and go no further,

599
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you know. So now was it right or wrong? I'll

600
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>let you decide, But it was not. How should I say?

601
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't out of character for the time, And I'm

602
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 2>not saying it was right. And I always thought that song.

603
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>In fact, let me say, I like that song much

604
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>better than my Sharona a million miles. But aside from that,

605
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 2>if you take it at face value, yeah, it's you know,

606
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty male Chauvens pig, you know. But if you take

607
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 2>it from the other perspective as like a parody or statire,

608
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that they're trying to sound like that but making fun

609
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 2>of that sort of mentality.

610
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 3>But they're not.

611
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not excuse. I'm not apologizing for them. I'm

612
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>just saying that that could also be that the the

613
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>irony and the humor that and that was also prevalent

614
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>back in that that time too, that it was not

615
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.280
<v Speaker 2>They weren't really saying it was a good thing. They

616
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 2>were making fun of it by you know, making it

617
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 2>sound like they liked it, but they're saying, see how

618
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>stupid it sounds. If that makes any sense, I don't know.

619
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 4>I one of those it's open to interpretation, which I

620
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 4>think makes for a good song.

621
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>He never returned my calls to find you know, I asked,

622
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 2>never got back to me.

623
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Well do yourself have a favor and do check out

624
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the explicit version.

625
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 6>That we're all going to be googling it.

626
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now now that I'm.

627
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Going to have this huge spike, they're like, what is

628
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 4>going on here? Yeah?

629
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>So meanwhile I'm trying to google the explicit version lyrics

630
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 3>and they're like blocking me.

631
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 6>So I don't know, maybe you're not old enough.

632
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 2>So uh.

633
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 3>So Dutge Viger Doug Viger wrote this song with Johnny

634
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Cash's voice in mind. All right, I know no, Like,

635
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>how does that make sense?

636
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 11>No?

637
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

638
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 3>So incidentally, the b side of Good Girls Don't was

639
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.119
<v Speaker 3>a song titled Frustrated and was again about Sharona albren.

640
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 3>It describes how he had a crush on her but

641
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 3>she was keeping him at arm's length, although they did

642
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 3>go on to have a relationship later, so it seems

643
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 3>like he really had it bad for her. I mean

644
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 3>three songs that and who knows how many more, but

645
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 3>at least three songs that he wrote about her. The

646
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<v Speaker 3>Necker an American power pop band formed in la in

647
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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy eight and members were Doug Fieger, Burton, a

648
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Avier Prescott Niles, and Bruce gary My. Sharona reached number

649
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<v Speaker 3>one in several countries as it as as did its

650
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>album Get the Neck. Their next two albums were less successful,

651
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.119
<v Speaker 3>and they broke up in nineteen eighty two. They did

652
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<v Speaker 3>reunite in nineteen eighty six, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty six,

653
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four, and nineteen ninety six. They permanently disbanded

654
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 3>in twenty ten after the passing of Doug Figer. So

655
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:24.119
<v Speaker 3>why wasn't the band more popular? There was definitely a

656
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 3>few problems. Somebody on Reddit posted a pretty good explanation.

657
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 1>One.

658
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 3>They were hyped by Capitol Records as the next beatles No, No,

659
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Too High, That's the Kiss of Death exactly, Like who

660
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 3>thought that was a good idea their songs? Number two,

661
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 3>their songs were sleazy sex songs, and number three they

662
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 3>were misogynous. I'm not sure that the second two thoughts

663
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 3>were valid, considering it was the seventies and all the

664
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 3>bands had sleazy sex songs and were misogynous.

665
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's kind of what I was saying. Yeah, not

666
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 2>condoning it, just that's just the way it was.

667
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.039
<v Speaker 3>A demo was recorded at one of the reunions and

668
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<v Speaker 3>released in twenty twelve, which was their last album. The

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00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 3>reviews that I read were good, and maybe they grew

670
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<v Speaker 3>up and left their twelve year old boy selves behind.

671
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's all I got. I do like

672
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>the harmonica in there by the.

673
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Way, there's not much so really I like the rest

674
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 6>of the instruments, so it was not traumatizing for me,

675
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<v Speaker 6>So thank you for that.

676
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<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome. It was fun for me too. And

677
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Doug Figer did play the harmonica on that by the way. Yeah,

678
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.639
<v Speaker 3>it was really shocking to me. I had no idea

679
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 3>there was two versions of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, yeah, neither did I. Well, thank you, Mercedes. We're

681
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 6>almost to the end. We just have one more little

682
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<v Speaker 6>break and then we'll be back with the last song.

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<v Speaker 9>Hudson Riverradio dot com.

684
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<v Speaker 6>Hudson Riverradio dot com, and we're back. We're almost at

685
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<v Speaker 6>the end of the torture session where the rock and

686
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<v Speaker 6>Roll History show Crombones are torturing me with harmonica songs.

687
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 6>Except I know the one that we're up to that

688
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 6>is Brian's choice, And I actually really really love this song, so.

689
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 9>I thought you would.

690
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I kind of had a feeling you would, so I

691
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 4>picked one that has one of my trademark bummers at

692
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 4>the end.

693
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 9>So okay, yeah, we can bring everybody down and exit

694
00:51:59.239 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 9>on a low No.

695
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I like the song anyway, So all right, take

696
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 6>it away, Brian, No thanks.

697
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Do you mind if I nerd out just a little

698
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 4>bit before we hop into the song?

699
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 7>Go for it.

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00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 4>So we've all seen harmonica players on stage, I think,

701
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 4>whether you love them or not, the common technique you'll

702
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 4>see them use two hands and cup the harmonica and

703
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 4>they're holding a microphone in between their two hands, and

704
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 4>they're actually using their hands, and the microphone is part

705
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 4>of the instrument, like an extension to the harmonica to

706
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 4>get different sounds and all that.

707
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, that makes sense.

708
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 4>The nerd in me is like, well, years ago, it's like,

709
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 4>all right, how do they do that?

710
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 9>What are they using?

711
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, the microphone that most of the time you'll see

712
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 4>them using got nicknamed the bullet because of the shape.

713
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of curved like a cone shape, like a

714
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 4>rounded curve, you know, like the nose of a bullet.

715
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 4>That microphone was first made in nineteen forty nine. It

716
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 4>was by the Shore Company s h U R E.

717
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 4>They're still around, they're still making most of the microphones

718
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 4>that you see when people do podcasts and all that

719
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:03.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff.

720
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 9>It was the Model five twenty.

721
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 4>It was originally designed for radio use like ham radio,

722
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 4>police radios, the military public address systems. It was built

723
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 4>specifically to be very durable. You could bash it around,

724
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you could expose it to the elements, you could leave

725
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 4>it outside, all that kind of stuff, and it just

726
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.440
<v Speaker 4>could take that kind of abuse. And it was geared

727
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:29.119
<v Speaker 4>towards the human voice, the frequency range of the human voice,

728
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 4>and musicians just wound up loving it. They would use

729
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.559
<v Speaker 4>it on drums, they would specifically use it on harmonicas

730
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 4>because it fit into your hands so well, you know,

731
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 4>that that cup kind of shape. They still make it.

732
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 4>They still make it in green. It's now the Shore

733
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 4>five twenty DX. The newer models they make one that

734
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 4>instead of a stand hook up, it's got a volume

735
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 4>knob on it, so you can actually adjust the sound

736
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 4>while you're playing it. All that kind of stuff. So

737
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 4>if you are a nerd like me, go ahead and

738
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.079
<v Speaker 4>look up the shore X.

739
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 9>But the other one that.

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00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 4>Harmonica players would use when they couldn't afford or get

741
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 4>their hands on a shore five point twenty, they would

742
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 4>take the microphone out of an old telephone headset and

743
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 4>use the mouthpiece microphone because that was a cheap carbon

744
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 4>microphone that had a very gritty sound.

745
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.639
<v Speaker 9>Again, it was geared towards your voice and low volume,

746
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 9>so it was easy to distort.

747
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 4>It was gritty again, it was very durable, it was cheap,

748
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 4>especially if you walk by a payphone with a pair

749
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 4>of plyers and help yourself to one and kept walking.

750
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Su I have seen so many of them back in

751
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 3>the day, like open, it.

752
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Would not surprise me. Wow yeah, yeah, So the old

753
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 4>telephone headset. You'll actually see some old bluesper players actually

754
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 4>holding that headset upside down with the mouthpiece cupping it

755
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 4>like they would the bullet microphone with the earpiece just

756
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 4>hanging down.

757
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 9>So keep your eyes open. That kind of thing.

758
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 4>You'll see that in pictures every once in a while.

759
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 4>But again it was about that gritty kind of distorted,

760
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 4>very distinctive sound and using your hands to shape the sound.

761
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 4>You could shape, you know, proximity effect the bass, the trouble,

762
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:13.679
<v Speaker 4>get that really high.

763
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 9>Whiny pitch that Gail absolutely loves. There you go.

764
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 4>You know what, when in need, you make deal with

765
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 4>what you can get your hands on.

766
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 9>And it worked.

767
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:27.159
<v Speaker 4>So for my pick for a song tonight, we are

768
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 4>going to take a trip down Under and I cannot

769
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 4>do Australian accents, so I expect the emails to come.

770
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 4>We start off with three brothers and some friends who

771
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 4>formed a band. Andrew Farris played keyboards, John Farris played drums,

772
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Tim Farriss played lead guitar, their friend Gary Beers played bass,

773
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Kirk Pengilly played rhythm guitar and saxophone, and their friend

774
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Michael Hutchins was on lead vocals. And the band If

775
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 4>Anybody Wants to Guess was named in excellent excess. It

776
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 4>was called the Farris Brothers because they was three Faris brothers.

777
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm still mad at Michael Hutchins, for all.

778
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>He had the sexiest voice.

779
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh.

780
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, don't worry, we'll bring everybody down. We'll make

781
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 4>everybody said later, no where he's there. So they had

782
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 4>their high school band and a couple of them were

783
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.840
<v Speaker 4>a little older than high school, and the paris Is

784
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 4>wound up moving to Perth in Western Australia.

785
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.079
<v Speaker 9>The band followed. They played out there, and.

786
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Then they wound up moving back to Sydney and recording

787
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 4>some demo tapes and played out wherever they could. They

788
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 4>were outside a pub called the Royal Antler when they

789
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 4>were approached by a guy named Gary Morris, who happened

790
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 4>to be the manager of another Australian band called Midnight Oil.

791
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 4>You may have heard of them, yeah, yep, so I

792
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 4>talked about them. It's got to be years ago at

793
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 4>this point, it's been ages. So the Faris Brothers began

794
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 4>opening for them, as well as other groups around Sydney.

795
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 4>It was Midnight Oil who came up with the much

796
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 4>improved name for the band In Excess spelled iXS for

797
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 4>those who may not know. The idea came from a

798
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 4>mashup of the British band XTC and the Australian jam

799
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 4>band called IXL and I say okay.

800
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 6>Mus exactly EI EIO.

801
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 9>Anymore. That's it, okay.

802
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 4>Their first performance as in Excess was in September of

803
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:38.639
<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventy nine. They toured the Australian pub circuit, and

804
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.159
<v Speaker 4>they wound up making a good move. They hired a

805
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 4>really good manager who actually got them a five record

806
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:49.519
<v Speaker 4>deal right off the bat with an Australian label, Deluxe Records,

807
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 4>a five record deal you would never get nowadays, not

808
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna happen. The company gave them a budget of ten

809
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.199
<v Speaker 4>thousand dollar redues for their first album, and so to

810
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 4>stay under budget, they would perform a scheduled gig at

811
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 4>night and then go to the studio where they booked

812
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.199
<v Speaker 4>overnight time, which was cheaper than booking during the day,

813
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:15.079
<v Speaker 4>so they did that musician's time, the musicians hours, play

814
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 4>at night, work all night, and then go sleep.

815
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.039
<v Speaker 9>During the day.

816
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 4>They worked on a bunch of material which was mostly

817
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 4>released only in Australia, just way too much to cover here.

818
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 4>They worked hard, so I'll give.

819
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 9>Them credit for that.

820
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.920
<v Speaker 4>But in Access made their way to the United States

821
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.320
<v Speaker 4>in March of nineteen eighty three. They played their first

822
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 4>performance in the US in San Diego to an audience

823
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:43.400
<v Speaker 4>of twenty four people, not twenty four thousand, not twenty

824
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 4>four hundred.

825
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like a classroom.

826
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:48.559
<v Speaker 9>Twenty four people, yup, yup.

827
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 4>But they brought with them a solid reputation and a

828
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.119
<v Speaker 4>good performance, which got them gigs opening for The Kinks,

829
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 4>they opened for the Stray Cats, for Holan Oates, for

830
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 4>Adam and the An for Men at Work. So they

831
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 4>brought their reputation with them and it served them well.

832
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 4>By the end of nineteen eighty three, they were headlining

833
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 4>their own shows in New York City. Their big breakthrough

834
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.239
<v Speaker 4>single was what You Need in nineteen eighty five.

835
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.559
<v Speaker 9>I remember that one quite well.

836
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 4>The nineteen eighty seven album Kick is by far their bestseller.

837
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 4>That has a number of hits on it as well,

838
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 4>and in nineteen ninety they had another successful album titled X.

839
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 4>The album has the track that We're going to torture

840
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 4>Gale with today. It's called Suicide Blonde. Hutchins and Andrew

841
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Farriss wrote the song, and it was Hutchinson's then girlfriend

842
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Kylie Minogue who did the locomotion right. She did mean,

843
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 4>She's got a lot of her own stuff, but she

844
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:47.760
<v Speaker 4>made it big in the US with I think it

845
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 4>was the locomotion, wasn't it like in the late eighties.

846
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 9>I don't remember, but.

847
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.679
<v Speaker 4>They were going to a debut of a movie that

848
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Kylie was in and for the event. She wore a

849
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 4>wig and she called the Suicide Blonde, which is apparently

850
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 4>a joke about dyeing your own hair like dying suicide.

851
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 9>I guess you die the wig blonde.

852
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 4>So there is a blues harp intro in the song

853
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 4>and parts of it that were played by Charlie Musselwhite,

854
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 4>who is a very known Chicago blues player, and he

855
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.320
<v Speaker 4>was also the inspiration for Elwood Blues played by dan

856
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 4>Aykroyd in the Blues Brothers movie and that whole act,

857
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:29.559
<v Speaker 4>so that was kind of based on him. He happened

858
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 4>to be on tour in Sydney and the band asked

859
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.559
<v Speaker 4>him to come to their recording session and he did

860
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Speaker 4>so to set you up with that trademark downer, which

861
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.840
<v Speaker 4>you guys also mentioned. Suicide Blonde was the last song

862
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 4>that Michael Hutchins performed live in concert. That was on

863
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:51.199
<v Speaker 4>September twenty seventh, nineteen eighty seven, in Pittsburgh. So let's

864
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 4>partially torture Gale even though she likes the song.

865
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:57.559
<v Speaker 6>I love this song, So the joke's on you guys.

866
01:00:57.760 --> 01:00:59.079
<v Speaker 9>Well, there we go.

867
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 4>So suicide I've blong by an excess.

868
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:36.280
<v Speaker 7>S S S.

869
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 16>SID this is color of hair like she lashes finish

870
01:01:51.840 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 16>far again, the last of the mass sung not the

871
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.760
<v Speaker 16>shows so wrong you want.

872
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 12>To rencos so.

873
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 11>You too?

874
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Shirts st strip.

875
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 16>To me, the cir stand all, why the will you

876
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 16>get see her shirts squeeze.

877
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:29.400
<v Speaker 5>Ma sad moment, glor to you, Glory to you. Ta

878
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 5>guys are mother shirt went into your hair?

879
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:52.880
<v Speaker 16>Sam, You're from on me to read that right across them,

880
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 16>but go to see.

881
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Come out said shot.

882
01:02:57.800 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Tell your world.

883
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 16>You wanta makers?

884
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 5>The Simon.

885
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 16>Love, the Sessions, the Sunba you want to makea s.

886
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:17.119
<v Speaker 5>Salamon love, the fencils, the sum.

887
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 6>You want to macas the sun.

888
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 12>You want to make.

889
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:43.039
<v Speaker 5>Let's everything you want me.

890
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 11>Love all.

891
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:40.920
<v Speaker 9>That's a catchy one.

892
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, the harmonica is kind of buried in there.

893
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:48.519
<v Speaker 6>So I can see good thank you for the palette

894
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 6>cleanser at the end of the show.

895
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so they have a pretty long history.

896
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 6>You know.

897
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 4>They crossed paths with Nile Rogers, who's known for his

898
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 4>chunk of chunk and guitar sounds. So they picked up

899
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 4>on that and they did stuff together. So there's a

900
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 4>lot more to the story, but we just don't have

901
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 4>time for everything. But I thought that was a cool song.

902
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:08.400
<v Speaker 4>I had trouble narrowing it down how much I wanted

903
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 4>to torture you tonight. So I'll save the other ones

904
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 4>for another time.

905
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 6>I love that song.

906
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 9>I just love it all right.

907
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.920
<v Speaker 4>So here's the downer. In August of nineteen ninety two,

908
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 4>Michael Hutchins and his then girlfriend who was not Kylie,

909
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 4>We're riding bikes in Copenhagen, in Denmark, and a taxi

910
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 4>was trying to get around them on a narrow street

911
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 4>because lots of streets in Europe are super narrow, and

912
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 4>apparently Hutchins didn't know that the taxi was behind him,

913
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 4>and the driver got out and assaulted him to the

914
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 4>point where Hutchins wound up falling backwards and hitting his

915
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 4>head on the pavement. He got a skull fracture from

916
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 4>that and some brain damage, and like many stupid rock stars,

917
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 4>he refused medical care for several days. He wouldn't go

918
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 4>to the hospital for a couple of days. By the

919
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:56.719
<v Speaker 4>time he did, he had lost his sense of smell,

920
01:05:57.119 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 4>He lost most of the sense of taste, and that's

921
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.599
<v Speaker 4>when he really started to have trouble with depression and aggression.

922
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 4>He had some personality changes, and it got to the

923
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.920
<v Speaker 4>point where he was fighting with people. He fought with

924
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 4>every single member of the band, guys who had been

925
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 4>his best friends for twenty something years at this point,

926
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 4>and he wound up like getting into physical altercations with

927
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.760
<v Speaker 4>him from changes which were likely attributed to that head

928
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.360
<v Speaker 4>injury that he had. But they kept working up until

929
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.559
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety three when they decided to take some well

930
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.079
<v Speaker 4>earned time off. Michael Hutchins would continue to work as

931
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 4>an actor and a model, but he was still battling

932
01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:38.639
<v Speaker 4>depression and he had issues with drugs and alcohol. He

933
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 4>wound up having a daughter with Bob Geldoff's estranged wife,

934
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Paulie Yates in nineteen ninety six, and unfortunately, Hutchins was

935
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:51.000
<v Speaker 4>found dead on November twenty second, nineteen ninety seven, in

936
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 4>his Rich Carlton Hotel room in Sydney. He was only

937
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 4>thirty seven and Excess was back on the road to

938
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:58.360
<v Speaker 4>support an album that.

939
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.280
<v Speaker 9>Was going to be coming out soon.

940
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 4>The coroner ruled his death a suicide by hanging, but

941
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 4>there was and still is some speculations as to whether

942
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.920
<v Speaker 4>his death was accidental, whether he was partaking in other

943
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 4>activities That one may do we can put that to

944
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 4>bed now, Pauli Yates, the estrange Missus Geldoff was supposed

945
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:22.719
<v Speaker 4>to bring their daughter, along with the three daughters she

946
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 4>had with Bob to Australia to visit Hutchins, but Bob

947
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Geldoff had taken legal action to prevent that from happening,

948
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:33.119
<v Speaker 4>from preventing the girls from leaving the UK. Hutchins was

949
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.159
<v Speaker 4>just absolutely heartbroken when he got that phone call telling

950
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.920
<v Speaker 4>him the news at about five am in the morning

951
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:42.000
<v Speaker 4>because of the time difference, and he was furious and

952
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 4>he was absolutely heartbroken. He wound up calling Bob Geldoff

953
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 4>himself and just had a loud argument, screaming, crying, all

954
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.400
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff on the phone, so loud that

955
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 4>the neighbors in the hotel could hear what was going

956
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:58.760
<v Speaker 4>on through the walls. Hutchins then called an ex girlfriend distraught,

957
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.400
<v Speaker 4>asked her to come over, a different ext girlfriend, not Kylie,

958
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 4>not the one from the bike riding, and she did.

959
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:08.239
<v Speaker 4>She got there at about ten thirty in the morning,

960
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.920
<v Speaker 4>but he didn't answer the door, so she assumed he

961
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:12.119
<v Speaker 4>had finally fallen asleep.

962
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 9>She left a note for him and then left shortly

963
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 9>before noon.

964
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:19.199
<v Speaker 4>It was housekeeping that went into his room to clean

965
01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.479
<v Speaker 4>up and do the room, and the housekeeper is the

966
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:24.520
<v Speaker 4>one who found him dead. He had tied a belt

967
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.359
<v Speaker 4>around his neck and then he tied the other end

968
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:28.840
<v Speaker 4>of the belt to the door closer, the automatic door

969
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:31.720
<v Speaker 4>closer at the top of the door, and he was

970
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:36.479
<v Speaker 4>on his knees facing the door. So given all the

971
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:40.319
<v Speaker 4>circumstances of everything going on, it was not the happy

972
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:41.560
<v Speaker 4>time that he was trying to have.

973
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 9>It was suicide. So we can kind of put that

974
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:47.279
<v Speaker 9>to bed. I say it as it is.

975
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.199
<v Speaker 4>The now former Missus Geldoff herself died of a heroin

976
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 4>overdose in two thousand and To his credit, Bob Geldoff

977
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.399
<v Speaker 4>took in the now four year old daughter that Hutchinson

978
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Yates had had together, and he would later adopt her

979
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:04.640
<v Speaker 4>so she could continue living with the three half sisters

980
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 4>that she grew up living.

981
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 9>With, So I give him credit for that.

982
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:12.479
<v Speaker 4>The band continued to work without Michael. They worked with

983
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 4>a series of different singers. They even had a TV

984
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.640
<v Speaker 4>show for a period of time where they were auditioning

985
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:20.079
<v Speaker 4>singers to try to make a reality show to find

986
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 4>a permanent replacement front man. As of now, they have

987
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 4>nothing on their calendar as a band, but each member

988
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:27.560
<v Speaker 4>is keeping busy.

989
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:28.880
<v Speaker 9>They each have their own projects.

990
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 4>Gary Beers, the bass player, actually makes guitars and basses

991
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.560
<v Speaker 4>on his own. He does electronics and all that kind

992
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. And most of them are doing independent music projects,

993
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 4>so they're not bored, but they don't seem to be

994
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 4>on the calendar for going out as in excess anytime soon.

995
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:49.479
<v Speaker 4>So we got what we got and there you go.

996
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:51.720
<v Speaker 4>There's the Downer And now I give it back to.

997
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.920
<v Speaker 6>Gail as I said, Brian, thank you for the Palette

998
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 6>Cleanser song, because I really you really liked that song, Mercedes.

999
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.239
<v Speaker 6>Didn't you have something you wanted to note?

1000
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have a little addition to my song. I

1001
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:13.920
<v Speaker 3>finally did get find the lyrics and it was, in

1002
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 3>fact the explicit version that.

1003
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.319
<v Speaker 6>We heard, so very explicit.

1004
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:19.439
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it wasn't that bad.

1005
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.399
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't that bad. But the clean version the radio

1006
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:26.600
<v Speaker 3>editors is the one that my roommate and I used

1007
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:28.760
<v Speaker 3>to sing at the top of our lung. So we

1008
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 3>were not sitting We were not sitting Writian slip. We

1009
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 3>were not saying some of the lyrics that were in

1010
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 3>what we just hurt, so I apologize for that, but

1011
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I could figure that out and clear it

1012
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 3>up for everybody.

1013
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:52.800
<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, everybody's songs were interesting. I seem to have

1014
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 6>survived in about the same mental sanity I was when

1015
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 6>I started, which isn't saying much.

1016
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 2>We should have tried harder. What you said, We're.

1017
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:05.600
<v Speaker 9>Gonna have to do this again next week?

1018
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:09.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely, no, no, no, no, once once is enough.

1019
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I think we should each get a harmonica and all

1020
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 4>pick a different song, but we should all play our

1021
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 4>song at the same time.

1022
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.199
<v Speaker 6>Great love, but you'd all be in a different key

1023
01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 6>exactly exactly.

1024
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:25.319
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't push you over the edge.

1025
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:25.840
<v Speaker 9>And nothing.

1026
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, we could join the Cambridge Harmonica Orchestra, no charter members.

1027
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:38.680
<v Speaker 6>It's so funny because Neil's wife, who is also a

1028
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:43.039
<v Speaker 6>friend of mine, the look she would when a few

1029
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:47.279
<v Speaker 6>of us would go out sometimes, and this one lead

1030
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:50.720
<v Speaker 6>vocalist had this habit of going off key once in

1031
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:54.199
<v Speaker 6>a while, and it was fairly predictable as to when

1032
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.439
<v Speaker 6>he would go off key, and when that time was approaching.

1033
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:02.880
<v Speaker 6>Neil's lovely life would be watching my face because she

1034
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.159
<v Speaker 6>would first into laughter when she saw the look on

1035
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 6>my face when this guy would hit a wrong note.

1036
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.800
<v Speaker 2>This is the caliber of people I used to play with.

1037
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is why I wore ear plug.

1038
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a band that you might have been in, yeah.

1039
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 17>Possibly allegedly, yes, yes, And it was just so great

1040
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 17>that I was so amusing for Dawn.

1041
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:41.880
<v Speaker 6>I good memories, guys, and.

1042
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:44.239
<v Speaker 2>All the dogs in the neighborhood would start howling.

1043
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:47.560
<v Speaker 9>That's yeah, that's how.

1044
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 7>You know you made it.

1045
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 6>Or something. Well, I will give it back to you, Brian,

1046
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 6>to take us out.

1047
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:00.760
<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, good job, thank you for It's nice

1048
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:02.680
<v Speaker 4>to sit back and watch every once in a while.

1049
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I do appreciate it. And those were good selections. They

1050
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:07.960
<v Speaker 4>were really interesting across the board.

1051
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 9>And there's so much more you can do on the

1052
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.479
<v Speaker 9>topic and the Blues and all that.

1053
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.039
<v Speaker 4>It's so many rabbit holes we can go down, and

1054
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 4>we will at some point there and we'll find new

1055
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:18.640
<v Speaker 4>ways to torture Gale.

1056
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 9>A lot of.

1057
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 6>You guys need you guys need better hobbies.

1058
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.560
<v Speaker 9>I think we can enjoy this for a little while.

1059
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you cram Bones, and thank you all

1060
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:32.760
<v Speaker 4>for joining.

1061
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:33.960
<v Speaker 9>Us for the Rock and Roll History Show.

1062
01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Don't forget to check out all the other shows we

1063
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:38.159
<v Speaker 4>do here at Hudson River Radio, because there is something

1064
01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 4>for everybody. We'll be back next week with another brand

1065
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 4>new episode. Until then, blow until your heart's content and

1066
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 4>peace out, everybody.

1067
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:51.199
<v Speaker 12>Rock cop Bottom and Rum.

1068
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:54.880
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Bye bye.

1069
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:58.359
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1070
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:03.640
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