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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>we are all set to start tonight. We have four

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting different guests here, including Nicole Davis will join

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<v Speaker 2>us at eight thirty, so you Nicole Davis fans want

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around for that, and we will talk about

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<v Speaker 2>an American woman from Massachusetts living in Afghanistan in Kabul, Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that and talk about the big problem

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<v Speaker 2>that the Trump administration had with this signal app. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are looking for a scalp and President Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>basically standing by his man or men whatever in this whole,

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<v Speaker 2>this whole kerfuffle. We'll get to all of that later

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<v Speaker 2>on tonight, but first let's talk about high food prices.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody, no matter what your status in life,

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<v Speaker 2>has experienced high food prices in recent months, going back

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<v Speaker 2>actually for a few years. Coming out of COVID with

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<v Speaker 2>US is Estra Cone. She's the vice president of communications

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<v Speaker 2>and public affairs at a very interesting app called flash Food.

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<v Speaker 2>Estra Cone, welcome to NIGHTSID. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much for having me great.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us about flash Food is an app. So

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<v Speaker 2>people have to pull this down and I assume put

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<v Speaker 2>it on their phone. That's the first thing that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, yes, yes, correct, But it is free, so whether

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<v Speaker 4>you have an Android or an iPhone, you could just

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<v Speaker 4>download it directly from the app store, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have Just to make sure people understand

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<v Speaker 2>in my audience, you have to have a smartphone a device.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you do you have to have a smartphone, Yes, you

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<v Speaker 4>do have to have a smartphone. For now. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>how it works?

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<v Speaker 2>What exactly? What exactly? Once you've pulled this down and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on your smartphone, how do you use it? As

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that this is a nationwide service which basically

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<v Speaker 2>gives people some opportunities to get to their local some

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<v Speaker 2>of the not all, but some of their local grocery

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<v Speaker 2>stores and purchase food at a deep all sorts of food,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly groceries and fruits and vegetables, all at a discounted price.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us how it works, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you download the app, what you'll see is

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<v Speaker 4>a map of all the flash food locations in your area.

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<v Speaker 4>And how it works is we partner with grocery stores.

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<v Speaker 4>The goal is really to reduce the amount of food

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<v Speaker 4>that grocery stores throw away, which I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you or your listeners know, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>food that goes to waste in the United States. And

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<v Speaker 4>how it works is they lift items on the app

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<v Speaker 4>for fifty percent off. This can be items in surplus

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe it's nearing, it's best by date. It's mostly

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<v Speaker 4>fresh food, so produce meat, dairy, prepared foods, things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and so groceries lift these items on the app and

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<v Speaker 4>then you shop them and go and pick them up

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<v Speaker 4>in store.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, we heard in half the United States right now,

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<v Speaker 2>so in every amazing part of the country you have

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<v Speaker 2>specific grocery chains. And here in Massachusetts, I checked the

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<v Speaker 2>app out earlier. It looked as if your big partner

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<v Speaker 2>here in eastern Massachusetts is Stop and Shop, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge grocery chain here east of Worcester, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right from central Massachusetts heading east. I give me a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of the other food chains that you might be

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<v Speaker 2>grocery chains you might be working with here in the northeast,

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<v Speaker 2>so that people who are listening in other some of

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<v Speaker 2>our contiguous states might take advantage of this app as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them to think it is just a

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<v Speaker 4>Go right ahead, Yeah, so yeah, definitely. So Tops is

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<v Speaker 4>another big one in sort of the upstate New York area.

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<v Speaker 4>We have the Giant Company and Giant Eagle down sort

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<v Speaker 4>of in Pennsylvania around those parts. And then we have

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as you head out west Meyer in the

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<v Speaker 4>Michigan area, Family Fair has patients all across. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>in about thirty three states right now, so not quite national,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're growing really quickly and adding new stores every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go from Massachusetts as far as California, I believe.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, we do, Yes, we have. We just recently launched California,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, in the last year or so. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we do have some partnerships up in northern California. Mostly.

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<v Speaker 2>Any idea at this point as to how many members

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<v Speaker 2>you have or how many folks have downloaded your app,

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<v Speaker 2>or for that matter, any idea about how many people

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<v Speaker 2>have taken advantage of this and actually found great groceries again,

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<v Speaker 2>fresh fruits and vegetables, meats, I hope, maybe some day

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<v Speaker 2>old muffins and things like that for the sweet tooth,

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<v Speaker 2>for the sweet teeth there all of us have any

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<v Speaker 2>idea how much food has actually been circulated as a

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<v Speaker 2>result of this app.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, We've got about a million and a half

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<v Speaker 4>users all across North America. We're pretty national in Canada

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Collectively, everyone saved about three hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>on their groceries all in so it really is a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty meaningful app for a lot of people. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>whether you know, to your point, everyone across the income

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<v Speaker 4>spectrum wants to save money on groceries, right, So we've

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of folks using the app. Some people

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of fun, you know, finding good deals

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<v Speaker 4>and seeing what they can cook up with it. Some

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<v Speaker 4>people really use it as a utility and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>buy meat to serve their family meet at every meal.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a really great app for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we've diverted from landfill about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>thirty million pounds of food, which is pretty meaningful from

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<v Speaker 4>a environmental perspective, but really the biggest impact is the

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<v Speaker 4>economic one for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And how long has this app been available? I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you started out slowly, but how how old is

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<v Speaker 2>the app?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we were founded in twenty sixteen in Canada

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<v Speaker 4>and we came into the States in late twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>early twenty nineteen, so we're still relatively young, but we're

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<v Speaker 4>growing quickly and adding new partners every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you it sounds like it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>win win win the stores as opposed to having having

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<v Speaker 2>to ship stuff out product out of their stores, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a chance to sell it and maybe recover or

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<v Speaker 2>break even. And people on the app have much tastier

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<v Speaker 2>meals and better presentations to their family. It's a great idea, Esther,

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<v Speaker 2>and so thank you so much for bringing up us

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<v Speaker 2>up to date on this. How can folks find it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the average person who's listening tonight may have

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<v Speaker 2>a smartphone and they probably know how to go to

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<v Speaker 2>their app store. Any advice you might want to give

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is for the first time trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>an app, would you like to give them a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yeah, great question. So Also, if it's easier, just

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<v Speaker 4>head to flash food dot com and there will be

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<v Speaker 4>links there to go download the app. That might be

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<v Speaker 4>easier for some folks, but just type flash food into

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<v Speaker 4>whatever app store you use, whether that's the Apple App

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<v Speaker 4>Store of the Google play Store, download the app, and

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<v Speaker 4>then first thing you'll see is a map of all

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<v Speaker 4>the locations in your area, and you can shop deals

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<v Speaker 4>right in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great, well, Esther, I appreciate you taking the time tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully we've spread the word. It's not often we

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<v Speaker 2>can spread word to as many people who could benefit

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<v Speaker 2>from this and not only save money but eat a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better. So thank you so much, well, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you. We'll talk again now we can back

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. We have a guest who was

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<v Speaker 2>with us about a year ago, Tony Wilson, aka the

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<v Speaker 2>Young James Brown. He is a James Brown performer and

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<v Speaker 2>he performs here in Boston every year around this time

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<v Speaker 2>in commemoration of a conco that James Brown, the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>working man in show business, conducted back in April of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight, which kept the top of the city

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<v Speaker 2>was a powder keg in the hours and days after

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<v Speaker 2>the assassination of Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is a concert coming up on April fifth which we

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell you about. And we'll be talking with performer, artist, singer,

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<v Speaker 2>impersonator Tony Wilson right after this break on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>On April fifth this year at the Prince Hall in Dorchester,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be yet again a James Brown Boston Tribute concert.

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<v Speaker 2>James Brown played an incredibly important role here in Boston

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<v Speaker 2>back in the April of nineteen sixty eight, after the

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<v Speaker 2>assassination of Reverend doctor Martin Luther King, who of course

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<v Speaker 2>had some roots here in Boston, wasn't born in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>but went to school here, met his wife, Coreta Scott

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<v Speaker 2>King here in Boston. Uh And at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>uh doctor James assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee, they were tinder

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<v Speaker 2>boxes all across America, including Boston. And with us is

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Wilson. Tony's been with us before. Uh. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the young James Brown, the godson of soul life. As

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<v Speaker 2>the young James Brown, Tony Wilson, you will be headlining

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<v Speaker 2>this program once again and welcome back to night, said,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you my friend?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Dad, I really appreciate it, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And uh, this is gonna be a really good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's first of all, it's brought by Big Time Entertainment

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<v Speaker 5>and myself, young James Brown. And this, this whole entire

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<v Speaker 5>uh James Brosse Boston is dedicated to the innocent convicts

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<v Speaker 5>of Darrell Jones Make Hussin, Darren Howe fu kwan you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So we we just want to say this was a

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<v Speaker 5>historical moment in time that would never be forgotten. In

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<v Speaker 5>sixty eight, James Brown was set to perform at the

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<v Speaker 5>Boston Guarden April fifth, as you know in sixty eight

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<v Speaker 5>and one of the biggest tragedies occurred on April fourth,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was the assassination as you mentioned, the Martin

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<v Speaker 5>Luther King and so the city of Boston was shocked

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<v Speaker 5>and they rode up and they could feel attention in

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<v Speaker 5>the air. So there were many talks about stopping the

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<v Speaker 5>concert which was going on, performed by James Brown. And

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<v Speaker 5>it was a pioneer in black leadership with city Councilman

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Atkins, Deputy Mayor Jeep Jones, and the NIVO Mayor White,

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin White, and they had the discussion about the you know,

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<v Speaker 5>shutting down to James by performance in April fifth, but

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<v Speaker 5>listening to this team, they decided to go on with it.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was the day James Brown asked the Bostonians

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<v Speaker 5>to just keep it cool, stand down for what could

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<v Speaker 5>have been another tragic day for Bostonians. And that being said,

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<v Speaker 5>as you mentioned, April fifth, at Prince Hall from six

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<v Speaker 5>to ten, we will be having a free, free, free

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<v Speaker 2>An interesting story. I'm old enough to remember it. I

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<v Speaker 2>but no impact probably bigger than that night in which

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<v Speaker 2>he met personally with James Brown. And there was there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's great stories about those meetings. But this gy

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<v Speaker 2>He probably was not a James Brown fan, meaning he

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<v Speaker 2>It was not somebody who probably was was sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>a quick study and he figured out the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>James Brown, you know, the hardest working man in show business.

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<v Speaker 2>And James Brown put on a great concert and many

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<v Speaker 2>White and to Tom Atkins, who I also knew, who

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<v Speaker 2>were some you know, what we would call minor, you know, disturbances,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was some disturbances, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a very perilous moment in time and two people from

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<v Speaker 2>a very different background. James Brown, you know, great, great entertainer,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest entertainers in the twentieth century, who

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<v Speaker 2>you got to know very well, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we want to emphasize your relationship with him. You

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<v Speaker 2>were with him on many of his concerts. You you

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<v Speaker 2>successor of his musical legacy. Don't don't be shy tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about that, Tony, because I think that's a big

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, well, see when when I was ten years old,

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<v Speaker 5>the kids did in Boston, but only the police didn't

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<v Speaker 5>push us off because there was the Chitlin circuit. So

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<v Speaker 5>and their parents where they just consider the bar. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>I did that with James Brown, and of course I

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<v Speaker 5>lived in Chicago, and then the Jackson five would always

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<v Speaker 5>got to know Joseph and a lot of the Jackson guys.

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<v Speaker 5>So I had, you know, good times with those guys.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, I got on there to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>And later on in the eighties, Don King contacted me

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<v Speaker 5>so I was ended up being the top Michael Jackson

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<v Speaker 5>entertain on for Winfrey and all that fast forward to

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<v Speaker 5>James Brown. In nineteen ninety one, we met again with

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<v Speaker 5>a guy to jail. So but Lewis went on a

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<v Speaker 5>which Lewis pay per view and dan Aykroy and all

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<v Speaker 5>of the guys were there. So you know, from that

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<v Speaker 5>point he said, I want you to stick with me

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<v Speaker 5>and come and learn. So you know, he flew me everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I had like three passports full of things

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<v Speaker 5>that he did and the places that he brought me.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, from there, we did two movies together.

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<v Speaker 5>One is called funk Blast. If you just go on

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<v Speaker 5>to you can go on the YouTuber it's type of

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<v Speaker 5>funk blast. Tony Wilson in the other words Beat the

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<v Speaker 5>Devil BMW. Phil was one of the top actors in

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<v Speaker 5>the world. Gary Omen and Danny Drago Claive owns. So

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<v Speaker 5>it was a really keen good thing BMW Beat the Devil.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, we, like I said, Big Time Entertainment

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<v Speaker 5>in myself put this thing together. We like to thank

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<v Speaker 5>the city of Boston for making James Brown say Boston

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<v Speaker 5>Day April fifth, and we're proud of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're still looking for things to do with we're providing

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<v Speaker 5>with a big time entertainment. They dedicated providing platform for

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<v Speaker 5>youth to express themselves, you know, the address social issues and

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<v Speaker 5>promote positive values, you know through these events. And so

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he has this thing called Youth and Crisis,

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<v Speaker 5>which are band the Brother Walk band has always done

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<v Speaker 5>the Scoop and Hoop events. So he has already made

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<v Speaker 5>an outlet for these kids so that they could be

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<v Speaker 5>able to you know, deal with whatever they're doing with

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<v Speaker 5>at home and then be able to be active outside,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the time with the use in Christ and

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<v Speaker 5>the historical scoop and hooches every year. So this, James

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<v Speaker 5>Brown said, Boston is importance from Boston. Like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm from Chicago. I'm not here to make money. This

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<v Speaker 5>is free and this is why I'm doing it the

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<v Speaker 5>way that I got here. Dan, I'm on tour with

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<v Speaker 5>the Iceby brother If you type in Tony Wilson and

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<v Speaker 5>the Iceley Brothers, you'll see we were at in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 5>And when we came right here in twenty seventeen and

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<v Speaker 5>did the Wilber Theater, that's when I noticed it was

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<v Speaker 5>game Brown's fifty of Anna Blue Street and I went

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<v Speaker 5>to the city and at that time, I think Mayor

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<v Speaker 2>Tell Marty Walsh was the mayor at that time. A

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<v Speaker 2>great guy. He's now the executive director of the Players

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<v Speaker 2>Association in the National Hockey League. So you need to

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<v Speaker 2>get hockey tickets sometime. You got to get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with him. Let me give it one more time here

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm coming up on the newscast at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour. April fifth, which is not this Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night but Saturday night. It is a week from Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 2>the first Saturday at April at the Prince Hall on

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Street in Dorchester. I think everyone knows where that is.

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<v Speaker 2>No tickets needed, you just show up, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>to show up a little early and get there and

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<v Speaker 2>grab a seat and enjoy the show. Tony Wilson, so

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<v Speaker 2>great to talk to you again, Huh, I said, so

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<v Speaker 2>great to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, do I have another thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you about thirty go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, because we got to bring out We got

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<v Speaker 5>the celebrity performer, got Janelle Silgar's performer, Tony Lend, the

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<v Speaker 5>legendary blues singer performing the OG's a performer. Uh with

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<v Speaker 5>the artist, we have a Christina the performant Pretty Poison,

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<v Speaker 5>named later as one of our sponsors along with Urban Heat.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Harris is hosting it. So we have we even

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<v Speaker 5>have Mark White. Kevin White's son is going to get

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<v Speaker 5>up to say something. But this whole thing is dedicated

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<v Speaker 5>to the innocent Cobbage, Darrell Jones, Mack Hussin.

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<v Speaker 2>Do me a favorite, Do me one favorite, Tony, since

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<v Speaker 2>we had you all tonight when you see Mark White

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday night, April fifth. Give him my best. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a good friend. I haven't talked to him in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Tell him. Dan Ray said, hello, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're always welcome here. Tony Wilson, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank young James Brown. Thanks, thanks Tony. Be well, be well,

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<v Speaker 2>stay safe. All right, when we get back right after

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<v Speaker 2>the news at the bottom of the air, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking with absolutely Nicole Davis, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the new MBT, a MBTA rail extension

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking about the aforementioned Nicole Davis. She joins us for

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<v Speaker 2>a special stop by by Nicole. How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Did I get here?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Hi?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing, almost in two places simultaneously. The magic

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<v Speaker 2>of audio tape.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like you tuck the words right out of my mouth,

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<v Speaker 6>the beautiful magic of radio. How are you, my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing just great? Uh, And I know that you

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<v Speaker 2>have some information on us on this the the Long

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<v Speaker 2>Away It's South Coast commuter rail has finally begun service

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. Now, I don't think you were down there

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<v Speaker 2>for all of the activities and the festivities, But this

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<v Speaker 2>is really an extension of the MPTA. Is this going

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<v Speaker 2>to help the MPTA, which is just going to dig

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<v Speaker 2>the financial hole a little deeper that they've always found themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be great for people down to the

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<v Speaker 2>South Coast, that's for sure. Well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and the Tea seems to believe that by getting

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<v Speaker 6>for the first time in almost seventy years, this is

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<v Speaker 6>offering commuter service to places like taunt and Fall River,

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<v Speaker 6>New Bedford, you know, and they are believing that this

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be eventually an economic boom. You're going

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<v Speaker 6>to have more people using the system. So, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of money you got to roll out first.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is connecting a part of the state where

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<v Speaker 6>the economy is up and coming. It's building itself back

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<v Speaker 6>and fishing and manufacturing area, and this is connecting people

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<v Speaker 6>to jobs in the Boston area, maybe the biotech belt.

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<v Speaker 6>Around one twenty eight all kinds of opportunities. And there's

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<v Speaker 6>a huge history behind this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't understand that I have not briefed myself,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might ask you some questions here just out

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<v Speaker 2>of curiosity that you may not be aware, might not

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<v Speaker 2>know about. But you mentioned that that it's been seventy years.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did any idea why it ever stopped?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, let's go in the way back machine, Dan, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to talk about this. So yeah, picture it summer

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<v Speaker 6>of nineteen fifty eight, and this is New Bedford, Fall River,

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<v Speaker 6>tot and again we're talking about this. At the time

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<v Speaker 6>they got to and from Boston on the train, there

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<v Speaker 6>was train service on the South Coast through the New

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<v Speaker 6>Haven Railroad's Old Colony line. So again it was just

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<v Speaker 6>like the commuter rail and the old Colony Line would

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<v Speaker 6>run right through the South Coast. Hop on the train

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<v Speaker 6>come to Boston. A big deal. But in the New

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<v Speaker 6>the New York Times from nineteen fifty eight, the summer

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<v Speaker 6>of that year saying Fall River and other cities at

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<v Speaker 6>the time didn't want to keep contributing to a subsidy

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<v Speaker 6>to keep the train running because the old Colony Railroad

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<v Speaker 6>so they reached out to the cities and said, look,

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<v Speaker 6>said we can't afford this either, so in September they

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<v Speaker 6>cut the service. Done. Wow, And there has been no

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<v Speaker 6>rail service between that part of the state and Boston

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<v Speaker 6>since nineteen fifty eight. And of course, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 6>to sit in traffic on the expressway, risk your life

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<v Speaker 6>on twenty four. I mean, it's not an easy drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no fun.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's not fun at all. So back in the

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<v Speaker 2>A going back to that. If you go back to

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty eight, just to put it in some context, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Williams was still playing for the Red Sox. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Yustreemsky had yet to make his major league debut.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, and I had yet to make my own debut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Well I was around, but I certainly wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>studying the economic impact of the commuter rail or whatever,

429
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<v Speaker 2>But I can remember that time. It was a time

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<v Speaker 2>when the world was at peace. Dwight Eisenhower was president,

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<v Speaker 2>and I suspect that a lot of the old New

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<v Speaker 2>England cities, of which New Bedford and Fall River were

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the heap, they had lost a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the mills and that they had they were

435
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<v Speaker 2>they were cities in decline, and I'm sure that those

436
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<v Speaker 2>communities at the time didn't have a lot of extra

437
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<v Speaker 2>money to pony up to keep the rail line running.

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<v Speaker 2>And now here it is they have to put I

439
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<v Speaker 2>assume these are all new track beds and all of that,

440
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<v Speaker 2>that this is not something that that the track beds

441
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<v Speaker 2>just stayed there. I mean, I'm sure over time those

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<v Speaker 2>things had had had failed or or gone the way

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<v Speaker 2>of all things. Any idea, what sort of an investment

444
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<v Speaker 2>did again, I know you know this more than I been.

445
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<v Speaker 2>How much did the MBTA have to expend to get

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<v Speaker 2>it all built? At the rail extended, get the stages.

447
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<v Speaker 2>I think there's six stations that have been built along

448
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<v Speaker 2>the lines. Have to been hundreds of millions of dollars

449
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<v Speaker 2>at least I assume about a billion.

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<v Speaker 6>Not gonna lie. Yeah, I knew you were going to

451
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<v Speaker 6>say something about that number, and it's true, because the

452
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<v Speaker 6>thing is, this whole idea started back in the late

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<v Speaker 6>or the early nineties. Bill Weld actually was one of

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<v Speaker 6>the many who said, yeah, you know, let's do this,

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<v Speaker 6>let's get back South Coast service. And the whole project

456
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<v Speaker 6>has taken so long because there's been safety concerns, there's

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<v Speaker 6>been cost overruns. I don't know exactly how much of

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<v Speaker 6>the track had to be replaced, but some of it

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<v Speaker 6>was able to be used, some of it had to

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<v Speaker 6>be built. There were you know, you had to build

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<v Speaker 6>track over marshes and recreate areas to put the track,

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<v Speaker 6>and it takes a long time. I am certainly not

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<v Speaker 6>a rail expert, just an enthusiast, but yeah, it took

464
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<v Speaker 6>a lot of money and a lot of time, and

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<v Speaker 6>there were some times where a lot of people were saying,

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<v Speaker 6>is this ever going to happen? You know, we're put

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<v Speaker 6>all this energy and all this money and all this

468
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<v Speaker 6>time into this. But from what I saw, I have

469
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<v Speaker 6>a few friends who were down there riding the trains

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<v Speaker 6>on the first day, and my family lives on the

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<v Speaker 6>South Coast and they're all super excited the trains have

472
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<v Speaker 6>been running really well. For the most part, they're running

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<v Speaker 6>pretty much. I think it's like ten or twelve trains

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<v Speaker 6>a day. It takes about seventy minutes to get to

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<v Speaker 6>and from Boston, so it took a lot to get here.

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<v Speaker 6>But there is a lot of excitement I think in

477
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<v Speaker 6>New Bedford and Fall River for this access to the

478
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<v Speaker 6>city of Boston that they hadn't seen so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to put it in context, when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the number of people along this line who will be

481
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<v Speaker 2>accommodated and won't have to get in their cars to

482
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<v Speaker 2>drive to Boston. They can just go in and come

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<v Speaker 2>out in the same day. Even if it did cost

484
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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars, put it in the context the Big

485
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<v Speaker 2>Dig cost twenty two billion dollars, so this was a

486
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<v Speaker 2>fraction of the Big Dig. But it's going to serve

487
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who for decades have had well

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<v Speaker 2>no ETA service and no real train service. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a It's a huge wind for the for

490
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<v Speaker 2>the economy down there, and a lot of these cities

491
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<v Speaker 2>are coming back. Fall Rivers, I think rebounding in New

492
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<v Speaker 2>Bedford's rebounding. I think maybe the worst times for these

493
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<v Speaker 2>cities maybe in their rear view mirror. Which is good

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire South coast. Oh, it's good state everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it benefits all of us to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>flourishing economic areas in all parts of our state. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if you want to go down to the

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<v Speaker 6>South coast, taking some seafood at a restaurant in New Bedford,

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<v Speaker 6>or maybe go to Battleship Cove for a day, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot easier now just to hop on the train

501
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<v Speaker 6>as opposed to again sitting in the car and dealing

502
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<v Speaker 6>with the traffic. And imagine during the summer, it's going

503
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<v Speaker 6>to be a lot easier to get down to that

504
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<v Speaker 6>part of the state, to go to New Bedford, maybe

505
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<v Speaker 6>catch a ferry to the vineyard right there. It opens

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<v Speaker 6>up opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, when you look, when you really look at it,

508
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<v Speaker 2>I mean the vineyard is just looking at the map here,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like about a very quick ferry ride, super

510
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<v Speaker 2>quick over to the vineyard and you can get down

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<v Speaker 2>there and see a part. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts, Nicole who probably have never been to New

513
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<v Speaker 2>Bedford or Fall River. I would not have been except

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<v Speaker 2>I went there as a reporter. When I was working

515
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<v Speaker 2>in television and generally we're going down there for bad

516
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<v Speaker 2>news stories. I've never gone down there to spend a

517
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<v Speaker 2>weekend or to go down and have dinner on a

518
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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night. And it opens it opens everything up. It'd

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<v Speaker 2>be really interesting to see how it works out for

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<v Speaker 2>the for the whole South Coast area. And yeah, it's it's,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I think it's I think it's a plus. And

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for bailing us out here and joining

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<v Speaker 2>us tonight and giving us a perspective that I learned

524
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<v Speaker 2>a lot from you on this one, that is for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>I am happy to talk train history with you anytime.

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00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:55.680
<v Speaker 6>And yes, if I'm an enthusiast, I am not as

527
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<v Speaker 6>much of an enthusiast as many people I know, but

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<v Speaker 6>I do love public trans that I do love trains,

529
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<v Speaker 6>and I I've already been talking with my family about

530
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<v Speaker 6>taking a train trip down to the South Coast, So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had a cameraman who worked with me at

533
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<v Speaker 2>or I must say now cinematographer who worked at me

534
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<v Speaker 2>with me at two four for many years, got named

535
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<v Speaker 2>Eddie Dukes. And Eddie loved trains. I mean he would

536
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<v Speaker 2>he would get on a train. That's how he spent

537
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>his vacations and love trains. I've taken the train to

538
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<v Speaker 2>New York a couple of times, and it's a lot

539
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>easier than driving getting right into Penn Station. People should

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00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>should try trains. And I think someday when I when

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<v Speaker 2>I have a little more time, I'm going to spend

542
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<v Speaker 2>some time riding trains across the country.

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<v Speaker 6>I would love to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the country from a different perspective. Normally we're

545
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<v Speaker 2>on airplanes flying to the West coast. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>see the see the country, you know, at at eye level,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd like to be doing be doing it on

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<v Speaker 2>a train.

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<v Speaker 6>So what easier than driving when you have to take

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<v Speaker 6>your eyes off the road. Maybe just get on the

551
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 6>train instead. Do yourself a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Nicole is always thank you so much.

553
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<v Speaker 2>We still owe each other a phone call.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I know we'll talk, so I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Nicole. All right, Nicole Davis, who just does a

556
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<v Speaker 2>great job here on news at WBZ period and we're

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<v Speaker 2>delighted to have her working with us at night. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're going to talk about the first

559
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<v Speaker 2>robot assisted live liver transplant, and it happened right here

560
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<v Speaker 2>in the Greater Boston area. So we will will have

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<v Speaker 2>all that for you, and then we'll get to our

562
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<v Speaker 2>talk portions. And we have a woman coming on, Jill Kornetski,

563
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<v Speaker 2>who is a Harvard in Brandei's graduate and she is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the very few Western women living in Kabul, Afghanistan.

565
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<v Speaker 2>She's home here for a little R and R and

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<v Speaker 2>she's she has got an an amazing project out there

567
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<v Speaker 2>called Homestead Afghanistan and the Taliban I've actually have allowed

568
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<v Speaker 2>her to be there. This would be a great hour

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<v Speaker 2>coming up after the nine o'clock news, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>a great guest coming up right after the break, Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Dibb. Will be back on Nightside in just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World

574
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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on w b Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you may have seen the story that Beth Israel

576
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<v Speaker 2>Hospital performs its first robot assisted live liver transplant with

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<v Speaker 2>us as doctor Martin Dibb. He's a surgeon who was

578
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<v Speaker 2>involved in the procedure results as the director of Beth

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's Living liver Transplant transplant program. Welcome doctor Martin Dibb

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<v Speaker 2>to Nightside, how are.

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<v Speaker 3>You very good? Thank you so much for your interest

582
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<v Speaker 3>and support.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, explain to me the phrase living living liver

584
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<v Speaker 2>transplant program. Obviously there, I am smart enough to understand

585
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<v Speaker 2>that that people can actually donate a load of the liver.

586
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<v Speaker 2>So is that what we're talking about here. It's not

587
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<v Speaker 2>like a cadaver and the liver is harvested or explain

588
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<v Speaker 2>the difference to me and my audience, if you'd be

589
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<v Speaker 2>so kind.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. So patients that are waiting for a

591
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<v Speaker 3>liver transplant, maybe patients that have liver disease or liver cancer,

592
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<v Speaker 3>and the solution and long term best treatment would be

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<v Speaker 3>a liver transplant. The problem we have in the country

594
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<v Speaker 3>and many other countries is that we don't have enough

595
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<v Speaker 3>donors to be able to do all the liver transant

596
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<v Speaker 3>so patients can wait for a long time on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>And so living donor liver transient is an alternative to

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for somebody to die to be able to get

599
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<v Speaker 3>a whole organ. And instead of that, you know, patients

600
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<v Speaker 3>can ask for the family members or friends that may

601
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<v Speaker 3>be able to donate half of the liver. So just

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<v Speaker 3>like in kidney yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, So for the donor in that situation,

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<v Speaker 2>they surrender half of their liver or they volunteer to

605
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<v Speaker 2>give half of their liver. I assume there has to

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<v Speaker 2>be all sorts of compatibility between the donor and the recipient.

607
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<v Speaker 2>But what impact is there on the individual who surrenders

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<v Speaker 2>half of their liver or donates half of their liver.

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<v Speaker 2>Does their liver or what is left of their liver,

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<v Speaker 2>does that regenerate itself or do they live their life

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<v Speaker 2>with half a liver.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's exactly right. So the liver has this amazing capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>No other organ has to regenerate. So what happens is

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<v Speaker 3>that if we take half of the liver of a

615
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<v Speaker 3>donor and we give it to the recipient, that half

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<v Speaker 3>of the liver that stays in the donor regenerates up

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<v Speaker 3>to one hundred percent of what it was within six weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the half of the liver that we implant

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<v Speaker 3>on the recipient also regenerates up to one hundred percent

620
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<v Speaker 3>of what the donor's liver was within six weeks. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're able to achieve, you know, two whole livers out

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<v Speaker 3>of one which is something that we know very much

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<v Speaker 3>about and we try to take advantage of it to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to transport more people and with healthy livers.

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<v Speaker 2>How long has that capability been in use? I assume

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a point in time time where liver

627
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>transplants first appeared. I remember when I think there was

628
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<v Speaker 2>some controversy when the great Yankee baseball player Mickey Mantle

629
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<v Speaker 2>was able to get a liver transplant late in his life. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot of uh controversy about it

631
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<v Speaker 2>because Mickey had spent a lot of I guess what

632
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<v Speaker 2>you call liver abuse as a young man, and people

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<v Speaker 2>were upset about that. So how long have how long?

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<v Speaker 2>When when was the first liver transplant? I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to put this in some sort of context. How long

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<v Speaker 2>have has the whole process of a full liver transplant

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<v Speaker 2>from a cadaver to to someone who was in need?

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<v Speaker 2>When when did that first one happen? Approximately?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it was doctor Starzl who did the first

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<v Speaker 3>liver transplants, and uh, this is back in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the sixties seventies, but it was definitely standard of care

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<v Speaker 3>starting in the eighties, and now living donor river transplants

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<v Speaker 3>has been getting more and more force and we have

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<v Speaker 3>been able to do this in a safe manner for

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<v Speaker 3>the donors to be able to save more lives, be

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<v Speaker 3>able to get good long term outcomes for the past

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>For the past twenty years. So therefore we have some

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<v Speaker 2>statistical analysis, which do the people who are the donors

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<v Speaker 2>I know that their liver regenerates itself within six months.

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<v Speaker 2>Have there been any studies done as to whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not that either impacts their long the donors longevity either

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<v Speaker 2>positively or negatively.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So we take the safety of the donor very seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have internet national registries of living donations, and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, the mortality of the donors is something that

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<v Speaker 3>we have been tracking for a long time and internationally

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, the potential mortality of a living donor

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<v Speaker 3>is estimated as less than zero point one percent, so

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<v Speaker 3>one out of a thousand, which is still something that

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<v Speaker 3>we take very seriously and we make sure that we

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<v Speaker 3>minimize all the risks of the donor. But for the

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<v Speaker 3>most part, the vast majority of donors are able to

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<v Speaker 3>go home within five to seven days and they get

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<v Speaker 3>a full regeneration of the liver within six weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>go back to the regular activities.

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<v Speaker 2>The longevity of life, and again, I know it's impossible

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<v Speaker 2>to predict that, but I'm just is there any disparity

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<v Speaker 2>between the life longevity of liver donors and those who

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<v Speaker 2>never donate a portion of the liver. Has there been

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<v Speaker 2>any study ever done on that or all?

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<v Speaker 3>So, we do know from cancer surgery of the liver

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<v Speaker 3>that patients that had half of the liver removed they

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<v Speaker 3>live with a normal life expectancy. Since we have been

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<v Speaker 3>doing living donors for the most part the past twenty

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years, we don't know what's going to happen at

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<v Speaker 3>forty years, but we pretty much know from the from

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<v Speaker 3>all the experience of liver surgery that once they get

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<v Speaker 3>a full regeneration, they live as anyone else with a

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<v Speaker 3>regenerated liver and with a normal life expectancy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, well, doctor, It's amazing what you and your

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<v Speaker 2>colleagues in medicine do for all of us, and it

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<v Speaker 2>gives all of us great hope. I just want I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say thank you for you doing what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a talk show and I was a TV

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<v Speaker 2>reporter and all I've done is talk you work with

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<v Speaker 2>your mind and with your hands, not only to save lives,

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<v Speaker 2>but to benefit so many people during your career. I've

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<v Speaker 2>known who was a heart surgeon and he did I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was twelve thousand heart operations, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>stand in hor of you and your colleagues. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That thank you. We really appreciate you say it like

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<v Speaker 3>if it's not, but just getting the word out is

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<v Speaker 3>just really important. And you being interested in us showing

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<v Speaker 3>people what we can do and be able to people

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<v Speaker 3>that are waiting for a long time for an organ translant,

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<v Speaker 3>for them to know that we can do living donner

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<v Speaker 3>liver transplant. It's really important to be honest, like we

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<v Speaker 3>have the privilege of having this job, but the real

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<v Speaker 3>heroes here are the donors. Not anyone would you know

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<v Speaker 3>you would have a surgery that they don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to save the life of their family member,

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<v Speaker 3>and these are very special individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, doctor, I'd love to have you back, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we can ever do anything to spread the word

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to the folks there at the hospital and

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<v Speaker 2>we're standing by at your service. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for watching you.

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<v Speaker 3>I did want to you know mention about the robotic part.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is very exciting because we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to do the surgery of the donor minimally invasive, with

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<v Speaker 3>small incisions and using the latest technology, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>robotic surgery. Basically we're able to have those donors to

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<v Speaker 3>get to recover way quicker and get back to their

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<v Speaker 3>regular life.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'd like to do, doctor, I would so

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<v Speaker 2>focused on the procedure and the transplant procedure. How about

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<v Speaker 2>if you have I'll have my producer get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with your public relations person and we'll have you back

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two or three weeks from now, and we'll focus

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<v Speaker 2>exclusively on the robotic aspect. Would that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Leading would love?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we will do we will We will do it

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<v Speaker 2>again in the not too not too long down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, doctor Martin Dibb of Beth Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>Living Liver Transplant Program. Thanks again. Doctor. When we get

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<v Speaker 2>back right after the nine o'clock news is going to

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<v Speaker 2>the founder of Homestead Afghanistan, a woman from Massachusetts, Jill Kornetsky.

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