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Speaker 3: is open at seven three six. I'm Tom Davis. I
Speaker 3: just dance the phones around here. And he is Larry Glass.
Speaker 3: He's our expert. He knows things.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Larry? Okay? Well right, yeah? Interesting?
Speaker 3: Whether we've been having here some moisture, we've been getting
Speaker 3: some of that. It looks like we're going to get
Speaker 3: some wintry uh, wintry garbage.
Speaker 1: Wintry garbage. Not a mix. I can't work out on that.
Speaker 3: So what so what what how we how are we
Speaker 3: addressing you this time of year? I know there's a
Speaker 3: lot of things that we can do a lot of
Speaker 3: things we just need to kind of prepare ourselves for.
Speaker 1: So where are we, Well, we're we're in Bartlesville.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean on the lawn and garden count guard.
Speaker 1: Well, he took his medicine today. This is kind of no.
Speaker 1: I don't take any medicine anyway, at a turning point
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, And we had one day of seventy degrees.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was nice and the phone never stopped ringing.
Speaker 1: I bet, what do we need to plant?
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 1: Truly February. Actually, February is one of our snowier months,
Speaker 1: it is. I noticed that I remember a few years
Speaker 1: ago February the eleventh, I remember that we had what
Speaker 1: three hundred inches of snow or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was a good storm. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were out driving around at it. We're the old people
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 1: Why is it that the first thing people do it
Speaker 1: snows to go driving?
Speaker 3: Well, because I actually Susie does the driving. I've got
Speaker 3: the the go to work, the Facebook, the Facebook live thing,
Speaker 3: and we always do.
Speaker 1: The road conditions. Okay.
Speaker 3: So, and she was born and raised in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: and she's got maybe a little bit of a dge
Speaker 3: on folks when it comes to driving in such conditions.
Speaker 1: We had that snow. I pushed an ambulance out with
Speaker 1: your truck, all mighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry's got this truck from the seventies and that
Speaker 3: is the truck.
Speaker 1: Almighty. I helped him get out to get unstuck. Leave
Speaker 1: it to Chicago boys. That's quite a deal. But anyway,
Speaker 1: despite our weather, the soil moisture content is really good.
Speaker 1: That's great. That's that's the big plus. Right at the
Speaker 1: point where Harry at the winter and it's getting ready
Speaker 1: to drop off in the spring order to go up
Speaker 1: in whatever. So now it's some time to do some planning. Now.
Speaker 1: Last weekend when it was warm, also used some roundup
Speaker 1: on my weeds. How that worked, but they're not growing. Well,
Speaker 1: that's good you rounded them up. They're not growing, But
Speaker 1: it takes a bit of time when it's cold like this,
Speaker 1: and and the little hairy things, you know, the hairs
Speaker 1: on so I put a surfaction in it there. You
Speaker 1: go to go through that into the leaf ward has
Speaker 1: to go. So if you're going to use some round
Speaker 1: up on something. A lot of the spring weeds have
Speaker 1: a little tiny hairs, so they need to put in
Speaker 1: there or some kind of yeah, little soapy stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little sticky stuff and it makes the water wetter
Speaker 1: so it stays on the leaf real Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. I've been trying to see some
Speaker 1: evidence of change in the plants, but at least they're
Speaker 1: not growing. That's a good thing. Between that and old
Speaker 1: rocks from that fiber optic installation. Wow, is that working out?
Speaker 1: Oh good night. This is the second time from my
Speaker 1: yard too, because.
Speaker 3: You had Company one go drilling and then you got
Speaker 3: Company two coming in.
Speaker 1: These people are going to try to do the same
Speaker 1: thing the other one did, and I almost told you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work, buddy. You need a geological study here, folks.
Speaker 1: Right there, the intersection is on top of a huge rock.
Speaker 3: They they'd be better off trying to drill through a meteorite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll take quite a rocket ship to do that.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, uh, well, they'll find out that it's ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do it drills again. They'll probably take that big
Speaker 1: orange pipe and go up over the road and back
Speaker 1: down the other side. Maybe, I don't know. So when
Speaker 1: the first group came in, they were they were surveying
Speaker 1: and everything. You said, you're gonna run a pipe through here?
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I said, I told you have my
Speaker 1: deepest sympathy. Take them three weeks this time. What they
Speaker 1: did they between that little gap between the sidewalk and
Speaker 1: the street, they pulled out the biggest rocks. I mean
Speaker 1: they're huge, the big rocks. I said, thank you. They
Speaker 1: hauled the big ones away with the little ones back
Speaker 1: in the ground. So anyway, so much for that anyway
Speaker 1: in the garden right now, Uh, soil test is good
Speaker 1: to do right now if you if you haven't had
Speaker 1: any good luck with your with your vegetables or your
Speaker 1: flowers in the yard, it might be due to some
Speaker 1: of the chemistry and the soil, so you might want
Speaker 1: to do a soil test. So that's pretty easy to do.
Speaker 1: You go to the extension agent with some soil and
Speaker 1: don't do it in one area. If you're doing it
Speaker 1: for your line, you do samples from different parts of
Speaker 1: the yard. Okay, put them in a jar and shaken.
Speaker 1: Don't don't touch it though that can affect the test.
Speaker 1: You want to put it in a jar and shake
Speaker 1: it up and they'll give you a chemical analysis. It's
Speaker 1: pretty thorough really. Sometimes when we do a project commercial
Speaker 1: projects downtown, it was a requirement to have a soil
Speaker 1: test done, so we did that and actually didn't need anything. So,
Speaker 1: but it's a good idea to do that if your
Speaker 1: if your stuff's not doing very well. So it could
Speaker 1: be a mineral depletion, it could be just maybe over
Speaker 1: use of a chemicals. That happens a lot when you
Speaker 1: use constantly use the weed control over and over over again,
Speaker 1: and we don't have a lot of rain associated with
Speaker 1: the weather, it tends to build up in the soil
Speaker 1: and that can cause some problems. Pre Emergents are pretty
Speaker 1: bad about that too. A couple of years ago we
Speaker 1: had a problem with that all over time grass is
Speaker 1: simply wasn't growing. Neither were the weeds. It's like mars,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that uh, And you probably need
Speaker 1: to apply some gyps into the soil or or hope
Speaker 1: it rains to kind of flush it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Because it does, it can build up into the soil.
Speaker 1: So if you're not having luck with that that it
Speaker 1: might be chemical, It might be a p h. It
Speaker 1: might be the soil structure perhaps, or lack of death
Speaker 1: soil depth perhaps, but and putting sod down won't solve
Speaker 1: the problem. I get a lot they're supposed to sod
Speaker 1: on top. Well, if you don't solve the problem why
Speaker 1: your grass isn't growing, putting salt on it won't help.
Speaker 1: It'll just do exactly the same thing. So if you're
Speaker 1: not having good luck growing during your lawn, I see
Speaker 1: a lot of this too. My yard's one. Maybe because
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold the water. It's just too much, too
Speaker 1: much build up. Perhaps to that and chip gypsum will
Speaker 1: help a whole lot for that gyp some castilum sulfate
Speaker 1: C A SL or two H two O, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't really affect the pH the soil that much,
Speaker 1: but it does help break up the clay a little
Speaker 1: bit and helps the migration of the materials back out
Speaker 1: of the riot zone of the soil.
Speaker 3: My goodness, we've got some science going on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, I think I'll put some gyps in
Speaker 1: on my yard. Maybe that'll help this year. There you go,
Speaker 1: so okay, anyway, that's kind of what they do. What
Speaker 1: you need to think about and what you need to
Speaker 1: make an assess of what your guard looks like, and
Speaker 1: the grass looks like and all that other stuff. And
Speaker 1: I was at a house this week too, and her
Speaker 1: hollies just weren't doing break well. No, And I said, well,
Speaker 1: you're living in a part of town where there's the bait.
Speaker 1: The parent material of the soil is limestone, and imagine
Speaker 1: your pH is a little too high for hollies. So
Speaker 1: you want some holly type fertilizer and some iron iron
Speaker 1: sulfate wouldn't hurt it either, But if you get the
Speaker 1: wrong kind of iron sulfate, it will stain your sidewalks.
Speaker 1: So we have some that doesn't do that. So I
Speaker 1: helped her out and applied it for watered and all that.
Speaker 1: So so, Larry, you helped me so much. He gets
Speaker 1: that all the time. I get that all the time.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we'll see what happens to them there.
Speaker 1: And these hollies are planted right on the close of
Speaker 1: the foundation too, And when they when they do the
Speaker 1: brick work, the mortar just hits the ground and then
Speaker 1: the builder shoves a bunch of dirt over it. And
Speaker 1: then you turn the soil over and gets that C
Speaker 1: A C O three in there and and it raises
Speaker 1: the p H too high. Then your plant Holly's and
Speaker 1: they go, Boxo's doing great. She has a box Yeah,
Speaker 1: pH is right away after the eve of the house.
Speaker 1: It was one of those green towers where they're kind
Speaker 1: of narrow and up right and yeah, but anyway, and
Speaker 1: it's doing great. But the a is next to it
Speaker 1: are that, and so it just needs a little needs
Speaker 1: a little love and attention pH adjustment. Yeah, boxwoods can
Speaker 1: tolerate a wide range of pH numbers. It's not really
Speaker 1: they're more tolerant, if you will. These are the others
Speaker 1: are more specific exactly. It depends on their their native habitat.
Speaker 1: Uh uh. They typically and igneous based soils like in
Speaker 1: the Appalachians areas like that with the volcanic soil, if
Speaker 1: you will, And it tends to be more acid because
Speaker 1: the leaves from the trees that fall down that's what
Speaker 1: makes the soil in the forest tends to have a
Speaker 1: lower pH two. For instance, uh in Ashville around builtmore
Speaker 1: these huge rhododendrons. It's as big as a house to grow.
Speaker 1: They just and I lived in Georgia for quite some time.
Speaker 1: We used through these l's in the ground. Didn't worry
Speaker 1: about peat moss or anything.
Speaker 3: They did great, but here it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3: They need they need an altered soil type. So we
Speaker 3: use a lot of peat moths which has a pH
Speaker 3: at five point five, which is perfect for them. So
Speaker 3: knowing your soil chemistry and your soil structure is very
Speaker 3: important and picking out your plants too. So there are
Speaker 3: some hollies that will tolerate the high pH A dwarf.
Speaker 1: Upon holly as one. I use that quite a bit
Speaker 1: just for kind of a low growing shrubs here and
Speaker 1: there they do well. And yop On holly is the
Speaker 1: same thing. But our shrub of the week this week
Speaker 1: is falster holly, and I found this one to have
Speaker 1: a bit of tolerance soil types too. It's actually it's
Speaker 1: a cross rotein an American holly and some other holly. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a medium to fine texture, upright growing holly. It's
Speaker 1: a native habitat. Is come upright thing up to thirty
Speaker 1: five feet tall. That's a holy holly. Yeah. And some
Speaker 1: people put them to the left and the right of
Speaker 1: the front door perhaps, and you have to carve a
Speaker 1: tunnel through it to get into the house. So this
Speaker 1: is really not one you want to put close to
Speaker 1: the ouse. Use this for screening or back drops or something,
Speaker 1: but don't put it at the corner of the house.
Speaker 1: It looks real nice when you get them just typically
Speaker 1: the growers prune them and sculpt them to be upright.
Speaker 1: Growing plants are the good for like your back fence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the back fence or screen. If you have a real
Speaker 1: big tall house, they do fine too. It'll scale with it, okay,
Speaker 1: but a one story house it'll look like it looks
Speaker 1: like you just got absorbed. So this night I found
Speaker 1: that it's a bit more. It's very adaptable to many solilotops. Well,
Speaker 1: it must have a pH five point five to six.
Speaker 1: It will rate six pH, which is kind of what's
Speaker 1: going on. Like what in the park, for instance, is
Speaker 1: about five and a half in some parts, and it
Speaker 1: does pretty well over there. So it's kind of slow growing.
Speaker 1: And if it gets too big you can whack it back.
Speaker 1: They take a good string you can. You can skeletonize
Speaker 1: this thing really and it'll come out just fine. I
Speaker 1: like yopon Hollis. Yeah, I did that to mine last weekend. Wow.
Speaker 1: It's a pride of Houston And I had to use
Speaker 1: a pick to get it in the ground. And and
Speaker 1: I never thought it would grow that large. And that's
Speaker 1: that's too big. So I got the salls all up there,
Speaker 1: just butchered thing. It was like a hack crack right now,
Speaker 1: a hat rack. But the thing is about the yop
Speaker 1: on Hollies is it will come back and make a
Speaker 1: really nice looking shrub. So we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about that. Break. Okay, let's do that.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. It is
Speaker 3: a twenty four forty degrees and our phone line is
Speaker 3: one eight seven three six. I'm Tom Davison. If you're
Speaker 3: looking for the expert, Like the song says, it ain't me,
Speaker 3: it's Larry, Larry Glass.
Speaker 1: Larry, what do we have? We were talking about yopon holliy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in my house, I have one yopon Holly that's shaped
Speaker 1: kind of like this oriental sort of look different layers
Speaker 1: at least really nice up against the rock of the house.
Speaker 1: And then there's one that's this round thing. Another one
Speaker 1: the one I just butchered up. I want to kind
Speaker 1: of shape it kind of free form too. But these
Speaker 1: because they do tolerate heavy pruning. You know, they get
Speaker 1: too big, you cut them back rather significantly actually, so
Speaker 1: they're pretty versatile plants in that instance, right though. There
Speaker 1: and then there's the dwarfiew upon holly and a customer
Speaker 1: texted me and said, how do I cut this back?
Speaker 1: And said, you just flat, don't don't cut it around
Speaker 1: the edge, but cut it flat across the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it will assume a natural hemispherical shape that way.
Speaker 1: And that's how you keep them from getting too tall.
Speaker 1: I've seen people with dwarf youelp on Holly's that are
Speaker 1: shoulder high, and you can still cut them back and
Speaker 1: they'll come back to be a nice little shrub again. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, but anyway, what the what why there's a
Speaker 1: good around here is that there they can tolerate the
Speaker 1: variations and soil type and soil chemistry. They can tolerate
Speaker 1: a wide variety of conditions and still do okay. And
Speaker 1: one thing you can tell if your opon or a
Speaker 1: holly is happy, it's the size of the leaf. Typically,
Speaker 1: if the leaf is real small compared to what it
Speaker 1: really should be, there are typically they're about the size
Speaker 1: of a the eraser on your pencil. Yeah, about about
Speaker 1: that big for those of you with color radio. And
Speaker 1: and if they're if they're starting to get progressively smaller
Speaker 1: and the internode is getting shorter, then they probably need
Speaker 1: some fertilizer or perhaps maybe a slight pH adjustment too.
Speaker 1: She can use a Hooli type fertilizer on it. On mine,
Speaker 1: I give them just iron sulfate every year, and they
Speaker 1: have these really deep glossy green leaves on really really
Speaker 1: nice and they do very well put on the box
Speaker 1: was too. They respond very well to iron sulfate. So
Speaker 1: does my sidewalk is orange? Well, my wife went to issue,
Speaker 1: so that all comes together. I'll find you just like.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so iron and are soil here typically is
Speaker 1: low and iron and that's probably one of the one
Speaker 1: of the things we sell the most is iron based
Speaker 1: fertilizer just because of our your plants greener, our young
Speaker 1: soil here. Yeah, and it also helps your your lawn
Speaker 1: to yeah. Yeah that bermutilons can get kind of lackluster
Speaker 1: and you know, and poor licking. But if you put
Speaker 1: that iron iron sulfate on it, it'll green darker in
Speaker 1: the green color, even darker than it's always a grass
Speaker 1: or fescue if you put enough on there. Good. So uh,
Speaker 1: that's a problem with our soil here is the trace
Speaker 1: element content is relatively low because our soil is relatively young,
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, I.
Speaker 9: Guess anyway, four point one billion, yeah, or we have
Speaker 9: a geriniums migrating to the to the retail greenhouse right now.
Speaker 1: We're getting all excited about the geraniums. We got lots
Speaker 1: of them, so they're they're coming on right now.
Speaker 3: Don't you grow so many that you have to export
Speaker 3: them like all around the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have. We have some contracts for outfits and
Speaker 1: Tulsa we grow them for and all that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so we grow a lot of them and they're looking
Speaker 1: really good this year. They trust someone with a green thumb, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. So anyway, we have those and we have
Speaker 1: a great selection of houseplants right now. We do have
Speaker 1: a sale on on some tropicals. There's some tropicals that
Speaker 1: are sixty percent off. Wow, they're against the west wall
Speaker 1: of the greenhouse. And then they kind of look at
Speaker 1: those and see so they're they're pretty cool too. And
Speaker 1: it's people like to come in and just kind of
Speaker 1: groove around the waterfall. Well, it is a cool little waterfall.
Speaker 1: How long has that been there since the eighties? Yeah,
Speaker 1: helped I built that thing back then, and you know what,
Speaker 1: it's still pretty dark cool. Yeah, it's a solid concrete.
Speaker 1: I used a compression intension forms to build that, okay,
Speaker 1: and it worked out really well. And in the middle
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Speaker 1: a as a compression form on the thing going on
Speaker 1: one over here, two over there, and then went over there,
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Speaker 1: You can't see the oil drums there, you can't. They're
Speaker 1: probably rusted out by now to serve a purpose. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a compression form.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Green Country Gardner program.
Speaker 3: It's eight thirty two forty five degrees and one eight
Speaker 3: hundred seven.
Speaker 1: Nine three six.
Speaker 3: That is our telephone number that'll get you on board
Speaker 3: if you have a question for Larry Glass.
Speaker 1: Okay, Larry, where are we here? Well, one thing that
Speaker 1: will really prod not the landscape is some multch fresh
Speaker 1: mult We did that for a customer. We raked out
Speaker 1: all the old bults that that the squirrels didn't take
Speaker 1: out and put fresh mulch on and we have a
Speaker 1: good supply of a fine textured cedar mult At this
Speaker 1: point it looked really nice. It really freshened it up
Speaker 1: pretty so she liked that. So we built some planter
Speaker 1: beds and he goes on and we did a drip
Speaker 1: system there too for the plants. We use a copper
Speaker 1: colored drip tube and you run it there for a
Speaker 1: reliable water supply. Yeah, anyway, and it's looked up to
Speaker 1: the timer, the sprinter timer. All that worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1: So so that was a good time to maybe look
Speaker 1: at your landscape and decide what you might want to
Speaker 1: do this coming spring. I have an appointment after the show,
Speaker 1: of course you do. You busy to talk to some
Speaker 1: of these landscape also, so planning is rainportant. I got
Speaker 1: some plans on the on the books going and they
Speaker 1: got to ship them out and so on, so we're
Speaker 1: very busy. Anyway, look at your house and does it
Speaker 1: really look like you want? Could it look better? You know,
Speaker 1: instead of you know, doing a lot of things to
Speaker 1: the house, Maybe perhaps the landscape would help it out
Speaker 1: be a more cost effective means by which improving the
Speaker 1: appearance of the house. So you need to kind of
Speaker 1: look at it and critique it. Actually, you drive around
Speaker 1: town and see see some other houses and see what
Speaker 1: they look like, and perhaps well I like that and
Speaker 1: you come home, so so you might want to look
Speaker 1: at evaluate the appearance of your house and see if
Speaker 1: it really looked like you wanted to and we could
Speaker 1: do that. We do. What I do is I'm going
Speaker 1: to do this thing, go out to the house and
Speaker 1: meet with the customer, kind of get a feeling for
Speaker 1: what they want, and then measure everything to some pictures
Speaker 1: and build their house virtually in three dimensions and then
Speaker 1: do the landscape around us so they can see what
Speaker 1: it looks like from above or from a perspective point.
Speaker 1: And what's really popular is said, well, what's your cell
Speaker 1: phone number? And I'll send them a text and then
Speaker 1: be at with the pictures. Wow, that's great. There it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can see it then see what it looks like,
Speaker 1: and you get a kind of an idea of the
Speaker 1: costs as well. So people are really they're kind of
Speaker 1: getting away from email and they're going more to this
Speaker 1: texting because it's with you all the time, and they
Speaker 1: get get an alert from from my phone whatever, and
Speaker 1: whoa look at that. You know, look, honey, this is
Speaker 1: how good our yard could look. And then we can
Speaker 1: negotiate back and forth on that to change, you know,
Speaker 1: adjust the plants or whatever the budget to so, or
Speaker 1: I can phase it one face two face three kind
Speaker 1: of thing to take it easy on it. Just kind
Speaker 1: of agree. But I find a lot of people just
Speaker 1: want to get it done, get it, forget it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just not have to worry about, well, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do. This is the next year, because
Speaker 1: they forget I know I do. So let's let's just
Speaker 1: get it done. Yeah, so that's kind of what we do.
Speaker 1: That's great. But with the advent of these little celery phones,
Speaker 1: uh and actually I submit it in a resolution high enough.
Speaker 1: It takes a offer to upload, but you can shoot
Speaker 1: it to your printer and get a good there you go.
Speaker 1: That way, you've got a nice full full frame picture
Speaker 1: of it. You know, most people have printers at home
Speaker 1: and all that, and their phones will bluetooth through them
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then then you can send it. I
Speaker 1: do it all the time with the nursery bluetooth, send
Speaker 1: it to our printer or not necessarily the bluetooth, just
Speaker 1: send the text. Well they're connected, connected to the modem
Speaker 1: thing yea on the internet deal and then then he
Speaker 1: goes to the printer zoom that way. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: that the previous program will explain that. But I'm a horticulturist,
Speaker 1: not a I just sent the pretty pictures. They don't
Speaker 1: ask me how they get there. They call you how
Speaker 1: to grow it's on that picture. How that picture gets there.
Speaker 1: So anyway, preparing your house to improve its appearance, there
Speaker 1: is one thing you can do right now. You have
Speaker 1: that done, so you know how what's gonna look like,
Speaker 1: how much is gonna cost. You can also look at
Speaker 1: your current plants and maybe they just need to be
Speaker 1: trammed back. What I mentioned earlier with the dwarf philip
Speaker 1: on holidays, Yeah, they can be or the standardy opines
Speaker 1: they can be cut back rather sternly and do quite well.
Speaker 3: So we have a color we do. Good morning, Welcome
Speaker 3: to the Green Country Gardener Program. You're a question or
Speaker 3: comment for Larry.
Speaker 1: Killow.
Speaker 3: All right, treat again. Hi, Welcome to the Green Country
Speaker 3: Gardener Program. Your question to comment for Larry.
Speaker 12: Well, I have a blue spruce tree that is probably
Speaker 12: about ninety years old, so about my height now, and
Speaker 12: it's been doing really well. But just recently I noticed
Speaker 12: the bottom limb is looking dead. Is there's some fertilizer
Speaker 12: I should be putting on it or to keep it
Speaker 12: from listening more bottom limb?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to overfertilize. Let's push tree to
Speaker 1: begin with. It sounds like it could be it could.
Speaker 12: Be needed to never have fertilized it ever, So.
Speaker 7: Well, no wonder kidding, kidding, No, it's doing real well.
Speaker 12: So I figured they had enough of everything it needed.
Speaker 12: Now I've got the one limb looking dead bottom.
Speaker 1: Look, look uh on the on the limb. If it's
Speaker 1: if it's a single limb like that, it's probably a
Speaker 1: or a borer insect in the in the stem. So
Speaker 1: follow the trunk or the stem back to the trunk
Speaker 1: and if you see some bleeding coming out, some dried
Speaker 1: sap on the side of the branch, it could be
Speaker 1: a borer problem. Typically, if it's a single branch like that,
Speaker 1: that that's what it is.
Speaker 12: If it would be doing that, even in this type
Speaker 12: of weapon.
Speaker 1: It occurred last summer. Yeah, yeah, and it takes it
Speaker 1: takes a while for it the manifest the way it
Speaker 1: looks now.
Speaker 12: A drainage, is that going to show now.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, you should be able to you should be
Speaker 1: able to see some white sap coming out on the
Speaker 1: side of the branch. And and if if, if that's
Speaker 1: the case, then you put some we have a meta culprid,
Speaker 1: which is a systemic uh insecticide, it'll it'll knock them
Speaker 1: out pretty good.
Speaker 12: Matter what.
Speaker 1: A meda culprid, I know the names of this stuff.
Speaker 1: A systemic insecticide will do very well to control that.
Speaker 1: If that is a problem.
Speaker 12: So, if that's what it is, do I need to
Speaker 12: put it on now?
Speaker 1: It takes it a while to get into the tree
Speaker 1: because of the rather slow metabolism of the of the spruce.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you want you don't want to do it
Speaker 1: pretty soon to try to get it get ahead of them,
Speaker 1: that is, if that is the problem. Another thing to
Speaker 1: look for. It's just physical damage. Something could have got
Speaker 1: in there and broken the branch or something. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: could be If that's the problem, then you probably don't
Speaker 1: have any bores. But so a super.
Speaker 12: Branch unlikely that something grows the branch, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, then it's probably a borer insect. But if it's
Speaker 1: not spreading to the other branches, and it's a very
Speaker 1: specific branch is getting it not the others, then it's
Speaker 1: something wrong with that branch.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And typically if fungus will affect the whole thing, it'll
Speaker 1: go more than one branch. But I wouldn't a specific
Speaker 1: like that. I would look for border damage.
Speaker 12: Okay, Now I have another question. Sure, uh in the
Speaker 12: spring garden, and what is a good timing for planning celery?
Speaker 12: And it will celery prosper here.
Speaker 1: In our I think it gets a little too hot
Speaker 1: too quick for celery here, So.
Speaker 12: It's too hot to grow celery. Well, it's even if
Speaker 12: we plant it real early or real late in the year,
Speaker 12: you might.
Speaker 1: Get some small stalks out of it, but it just
Speaker 1: gets too hot for the most I really don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody who's had a might call in if they
Speaker 1: have good luck growing cellary here, but it would be
Speaker 1: my first thing to grow here in Oklahoma. This is
Speaker 1: Okra country.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I do well with okra. Yeah, okay, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now in the garden, plant radishes and turn
Speaker 1: it not too early for turnips, but and lettuce and
Speaker 1: things like that. All right, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: you call. We're going to be right back.
Speaker 3: We've got to break and we'll be back after this
Speaker 3: two minute time out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, welcome, welcome, welcome, It's back to the
Speaker 3: Green Country Gardener Program eight forty three and a half
Speaker 3: and we've got the phones. They're ringing right now at
Speaker 3: one eight hundred seven nine three six. If you want
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Speaker 3: open here for you right here on the Green Country
Speaker 3: Garden Program. I'm Tom, He's Larry, and let's go to
Speaker 3: the phone real quick. Good morning, and welcome to the
Speaker 3: Green Country Gardener Program. Your question or comment for Larry.
Speaker 12: Glass Well, I asked my connection a minute ago. But oh, also,
Speaker 12: I have a question about is this a good time
Speaker 12: to be plant and rubarb?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to get it in if you want
Speaker 1: to get it into real early too. Rubarb doesn't like
Speaker 1: the heat very well.
Speaker 12: Okay, do they do better in the shade, then they
Speaker 12: do better.
Speaker 1: At Illinois we had rub barb all over the place
Speaker 1: without kids. Up in Chicago, we had rubarb all over
Speaker 1: the place, good stuff. But here it just doesn't like
Speaker 1: our heat too much.
Speaker 12: Well, I had a plant for a few years and
Speaker 12: then I lost it to uh spray in a wast
Speaker 12: nest in it. So I wanted to get something going again.
Speaker 1: Okay, we can give it a shot. I would say,
Speaker 1: if you have some shielding in during the heat of
Speaker 1: the day, it'll probably do.
Speaker 12: Okay, okay, so acting shade would be.
Speaker 1: Good for him a little bit.
Speaker 12: Yeah, just had it before.
Speaker 1: And good air drainage would help also, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: sit in stagnant air. So yeah, so yeah, yeah ruber.
Speaker 1: Actually it's kind of an aesthetically appealing to It's got
Speaker 1: a rather a large leaf on it, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of an attractive plant as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, okay, all right, pretty good, Thank you, Thank
Speaker 9: you for calling.
Speaker 1: Let us know when the pie is done. I love Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my father's favorite pie. And finally we found there's
Speaker 1: a there was one of those pie places in Tulfa.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and when we lived down there at
Speaker 1: the time, Uh, he'd come down and we go get
Speaker 1: him a rhubarb pie. He just loved it. Is rubarb
Speaker 1: something you can just pull out of the ground and
Speaker 1: eats that have to be You eat the stems, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't eat the leaves. No, be leaves I believe
Speaker 1: are somewhat toxic. They are. I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure that delineation.
Speaker 3: Because we used to pull it, you know, wash it off.
Speaker 1: Ye just talk. Yeah, but the leaves are yeah, you
Speaker 1: just the stalks. Yeah, it has an interesting flavor to
Speaker 1: it too. Oh you'll get your attention, especially if it's
Speaker 1: not cooked. Yea, we you're awake. So anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, rubarb will do. Sparagus is pretty well here too,
Speaker 1: but in the summertime they're going to look like an
Speaker 1: old dishrag, you know.
Speaker 3: Sparagus on the grill. Susie does that. She's never burned that.
Speaker 1: It always just comes out perfect. It's just like I've
Speaker 1: never had grilled with asparagus before. Oh, you ain't live, brother,
Speaker 1: So we'll have to begin to have to get some
Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3: Nothing says I love you like asparagus here, honey, you
Speaker 3: have a few stalks, get in the kitchen and get
Speaker 3: no good.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's when she starts digging the hole out back
Speaker 3: after you do that.
Speaker 1: Right, So anyway, back to the garden soil test crop
Speaker 1: selection for next spring. Kind of tomatoes will do pretty
Speaker 1: well and stuff like that, and we kind of o
Speaker 1: crew ye do pretty well too, And consider heirloom tomatoes
Speaker 1: pre emergence too for your your your ornamental beds. I
Speaker 1: don't like to do that in the vestable garden. Just
Speaker 1: mult heavily firm believer in Ruth Stout. Anybody really in
Speaker 1: the organic garden thing, they know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I wrote the book back when I was thirteen. I
Speaker 1: was following her. Yeah that's pretty cool. Yeah, got Organic
Speaker 1: Guardening magazine when you were thirteen. Boy, I was the
Speaker 1: way last century, wasn't it. Yes, it was eighteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: Larry and are about the same age, So okay, we
Speaker 1: can do that. Weeds are a bit of a problem
Speaker 1: right now too. They're coming up everywhere. Pine tip moth
Speaker 1: on google pineses is a problem, and what I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: they admit a clop it would be good to help
Speaker 1: alleviate that somewhat. Did They Their their occurrence is somewhat diyffical,
Speaker 1: so we don't always have a lot of them one
Speaker 1: year the next and there's none around. So I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a whole lot of pine tip muff one moving
Speaker 1: pines lately. A Bores are going to be a problem
Speaker 1: pretty soon too, so and fruit trees. You want to
Speaker 1: avoid putting any kind of systemics on your fruit trees
Speaker 1: at this point because when they bloom, which will happen
Speaker 1: in about three or four weeks, you don't want to
Speaker 1: do nasty on the beads. So anyway, that's coming up
Speaker 1: pretty soon. Yeah, in one or two weeks or so.
Speaker 1: You can put a spinizad on there. It's a spray,
Speaker 1: it's not a systemic and it does a good job
Speaker 1: to control them. Also red stories where you put dictamacious
Speaker 1: earth around the perimeter of the trunk and it'll pierce
Speaker 1: the skin of the little little wormy crawley. You go
Speaker 1: up to the tree to kill them that way, that's
Speaker 1: good for Also for the pine trees, the pine tip moff.
Speaker 1: They're underground and they migrate up to the tree and
Speaker 1: a band of diatamasius earthworks pretty well to control them. Wow,
Speaker 1: that goes a long way. Then halfway up the tree
Speaker 1: they just kind of dry up. What would happen here?
Speaker 1: I guess that's itchy. So okay, uh, it's it's time
Speaker 1: really the middle of this month for heavy prune and
Speaker 1: hollies using endenas and Larry Opie monkey grass. I don't
Speaker 1: like to do that andinas though, and you enjoy the
Speaker 1: red color on them. We got some that are just
Speaker 1: a fire engine red. I don't want to cut it
Speaker 1: off now. Yeah, so they usually kill it rush. I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: you know, they usually don't really start growing to have
Speaker 1: some good warmth. And the red leaves are kind of
Speaker 1: so you can get those back later on. And about
Speaker 1: every other year, every third year, I take the little
Speaker 1: dwarf Nadine's and cut them almost to the ground, making
Speaker 1: me even dwarf here exactly. But they get a little
Speaker 1: kind of wobbly and you know, the rangy looking. They
Speaker 1: need a good lesson. I did just take the hedge
Speaker 1: flippers and go. That's so Kevin does eighteen cylinder diesel
Speaker 1: hedge slippers. I think I had heard of thirty two
Speaker 1: cylinder one going there. Oh yeah, yeah, got the cows
Speaker 1: going to we're next. So so right now is a
Speaker 1: good time for the yop on holidays of Foster holiday perhaps,
Speaker 1: and the and the dwarf yopen holiys and Nandine is
Speaker 1: a little bit later, and the monkey grass. It could
Speaker 1: be done now too, because it's almost the middle of
Speaker 1: the month. There's eighth it's the third of the month,
Speaker 1: third of the month. Soon it will be the last
Speaker 1: time to do any pruning on river birds trees and
Speaker 1: silver maples. The sap is running on your maple tree,
Speaker 1: so We talked about pruning maple trees back in January.
Speaker 1: So if you do it now, the sun will the sun,
Speaker 1: the sap will start running. That kind of attracts ants
Speaker 1: and things. Sot a lot of sugar in that. And
Speaker 1: I was at Lady's also squirrels for eating her maple trees.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, it was a sugar maple. Well getting a buzz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like that sugar, that's what they're all. It takes
Speaker 1: one to take a bite out of that. It's good stuff.
Speaker 1: And then they all start eating bark off the trail
Speaker 1: to kill the tree candy. Yeah, So if you do
Speaker 1: have that problem, uh, something bitter would work about all
Speaker 1: to keep them from doing that. And there's several sophrase
Speaker 1: you can put on there for chewing insects or chewing
Speaker 1: animals like that. Use that brand name. This doesn't taste
Speaker 1: good exactly. We have all that stuff too, So all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back after
Speaker 1: this three minute timeout.
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Speaker 3: Alrighty folks, it's back to the Green Country Gardener program,
Speaker 3: and our toll free line is open.
Speaker 1: It's six. I'm told he's Larry Glass. He's our expert. Okay, cool. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we talked about stuff to do right now in the lastiate,
Speaker 1: get your ground ready to for the vegetables. If you
Speaker 1: haven't done it. I've been raking up leaves, trimming things
Speaker 1: up and grinding them up and putting them back on
Speaker 1: the beds for mulch. Never let anything go to waste.
Speaker 1: It works pretty well. When when we went to these
Speaker 1: cart things you didn't really have, they wouldn't take it.
Speaker 1: So I bought a shredder. And when I trimmed up
Speaker 1: my open holly, hey look at this, huh put it
Speaker 1: back on the ground pretty well. Yeah, in my little yard,
Speaker 1: too funny. But so it's time to look at that
Speaker 1: and look at your garden and see I work so well.
Speaker 1: Maybe refresh the mult a little bit to make it
Speaker 1: look nice to coming in the spring. That multu is
Speaker 1: an awful lot too, to help stabilize the soil temperature
Speaker 1: and to retain moisture and keep out weeds. So I
Speaker 1: think it's worth the investment to use a multch on
Speaker 1: your surfaces. Grind your own if you can. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: trimmed up the deciduous holly. The bird stripped it clean.
Speaker 1: It was a solid red berries everywhere, beautiful, and the
Speaker 1: robins discovered it in the others and it was like
Speaker 1: an O'Hare Airport. Oh my, if you ever been here,
Speaker 1: it's like a window hair more than I like a peehive.
Speaker 1: You know. They took them a week, but they cleaned
Speaker 1: it up. So I got in there with the blobber
Speaker 1: shears and cut it back to make a branch out
Speaker 1: a little bit more. So it's kind of time to
Speaker 1: do that. Do some heavy pruning on some things too.
Speaker 1: And they Pride of Houston, YopE on Holly got got
Speaker 1: hat wracked this last weekend too. Good. So a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff happening in the nursery pruning wise on your things, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know these plants can get too big. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it trimmed my box woods too. But I didn't
Speaker 1: use the clippers, would you use? I just said whatever.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just cut it off, not at
Speaker 1: the surface, but down deep, down deep. And what that
Speaker 1: does Instead of having a thin we talked about this
Speaker 1: last year, having a thin veneer of leaves, you have
Speaker 1: a more depth. And in this case, it was kind
Speaker 1: of a kind of a casual hedge. But it's still uniform,
Speaker 1: but it not. It doesn't look like a box all right,
Speaker 1: So it still makes an effective hedge without having to
Speaker 1: have a very thin veneer of leaves, so it looks
Speaker 1: pretty that way. Okay, so oh goodly. Anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: take a look at the at your front of your
Speaker 1: house and see if it looks like you wanted to,
Speaker 1: and I can come over and do a landscape plan.
Speaker 1: There you go, And you can do it yourself too,
Speaker 1: because you'll have a complete list of materials including the
Speaker 1: compost and the mulch and the edging of all lot
Speaker 1: other stuff, all done with the linear kind of a thing. Sure,
Speaker 1: and so you can do it yourself or have us
Speaker 1: do it. It doesn't matter. I've got a lot of projects online.
Speaker 1: Though this weather we've not been able to a whole
Speaker 1: lot this winter. Thuse you guys in the Weather Service
Speaker 1: kind of messing me up a little bit. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get caught up here when it when it clears
Speaker 1: up a little bit, I reckon. So anyway, come see
Speaker 1: us at Green Thumb Nursery, uh half on No Water Road,
Speaker 1: halfway between Washington Boulevard and Madison on the south side
Speaker 1: of the road. We've got a great selection of tropical plants,
Speaker 1: and our perennials are starting to be get done. Our
Speaker 1: geraniums are starting to grow, and Tom keep your shovel sharp.
Speaker 1: We will see you next week.
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