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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Gimmick. You're a wrestling

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show here on the geek First Network. As you can see,

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mister Snell is not here today. He's still off enjoying

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his family time much needed, especially as a father of two.

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I get it, but you still have me today. I'm

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David and you we're here with s bubs.

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Speaker 2: Hello. Yes, I'm here. I'm totally happy to take over

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without Travis here because you guys took over for me

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when I couldn't do it for a few months because

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of my reasons. I'm just so excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do. We just continue on charging through. Luckily,

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with the three host system we can rotate that way.

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So today on the Gimmick, it's been a busy month

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in wrestling. Let's see, We've had Survivor Series, You've had

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Full Gear, we had last night, Saturday Night's Main Event

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that we're going to talk about, Raw's upcoming Netflix premiere,

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and so much more, NXT versus AW. So we're ready

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to get things started. So let's start with the most

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recent spo, Saturday Night's main Event. Quick thoughts, what did

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you think?

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Speaker 2: I think I definitely enjoyed it. I think I agree

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with a lot of people that the expectations were they

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were building it more like it was gonna be a

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pl when it really was like a TV special. But

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if I'm grading it in that regard, like in comparison

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to like the season premiere of SmackDown like a few

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months ago, I'd say I definitely enjoyed the show overall.

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I think I liked all the matches and there were

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a few in there that I really really enjoyed. And uh,

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I'm excited to see how things change for future Saturday

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changes that could be made to uh make it maybe

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better for the future ones, especially if they're going to

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be doing four a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just quick overview. As someone who has

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been watching wrestling his entire life, I think I started

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probably when I was three or four that eighties early

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nineties nostalgia. Phil was really nice to throwbacks with the ring,

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the way the ropes were, the refs in their attire,

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the whole set up, the long skinny ramp, all the

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presentation of it brought back a lot of nostalgia. I

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will agree that going into it, I did think that

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it was going to be a full on pl style show.

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I was a little bit thrown off with the commercial

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breaks and things like that, but then it was just like,

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all right, this is exactly how they're playing it on NBC.

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I was watching it on Peacock, so yeah, I was

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thrown off, like, oh, I'm in a full on commercial

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break in the middle of a match, Like, what's what's

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going on here?

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Speaker 2: Uh So, oh yeah, I was just gonna from what

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I heard, I think the NBC stream at the start

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was like thirty seconds ahead or something like that, but

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then and by at some point, like halfway through, it

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like synced up again or the Peacock one was ahead

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or something like that. That's what I heard. I was

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also watching on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I normally watch all my ww stuff on Peacock,

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so that was just my go to. But this was

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and it was a fun, nostalgic throwback. I think that

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they have some things that they can work on going forward,

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but overall it was good. It was fun, not a

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lot of matches, but it served its purpose and Jesse

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Ventura on commentary was just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him and Joe Testa Tour is a

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little segment star Joe Testa tour is a very like

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retro voice. I think he worked really well for being

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sort of a host of this whole show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's get right to Let's start with the

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top of the card. I mean it came out hot

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and heavy, showing what this was going to be about.

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How did you feel about Sammy Zane and Drew McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a fun match. It was I

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thought a little bit short, but then that was sort

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of like where I made my expectations for the rest

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of the show, because it was very much a TV

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sort of match. But they're both great and they've had

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other great matches before, and I'm interested with this whole

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Drew bloodline. Hunter he's doing now where he put a

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little video online where he said one down, four to go,

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so presumably he's coming after everybody in the og bloodline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's really hard to have a bad

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Sami match. Whether he's doing straight up bangers or he's

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doing comedic matches, he does everything in his power to

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give you something memorable. I think him and Drew together

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it was a good fun match. The only nitpicky thing

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that I would have about it is the amount of

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blue thunderbombs that Sam Zing was trying to pull off.

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it was on a pre show. It was last year.

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Do you know who he beat with a blue Underwong No,

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JD McDonough on the Crown Jewel pre show he beat

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with a blue.

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Speaker 1: Underwoll That tracks. That tracks so only because Jadie McDonald

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I say, okay, that's someone who can be beat by it.

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heart hitting match. The claymore out of nowhere everything with

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that match, I knew Drew was gonna end up winning this,

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just because with them bringing him back early due to

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all the injuries that we've been seeing and experiencing lately,

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especially after War Games, You're not gonna bring him back

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early just to have him immediately lose to Sammy Zay,

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so you gotta build him up. It was a predictable winner,

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but the match itself, it served his purpose as a

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nice intro and if you are a casual wrestling fan

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who just happened to be tuning into NBC, they were

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pretty fast paced. They kept the action going. I think

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it was a good intro match.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is very good. Like just looking

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at those two, I feel like you can tell like

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this is the good guy and this is the bad guy,

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and like they're just doing your wrestling moves there if

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you're a casual viewer, and even I saw people point

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out like Michael Cole was like very much explaining like

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that's the Blue Thunderbomber, that's the Claim War like sort

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of telling people what was going on if you were

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maybe and I am wondering like what the the ratings

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and stuff were gonna be like, cause I don't know

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about NBC ratings. I don't know what things usually do

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on there, but I'm curious sort of what that's going

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Speaker 1: Like. Well, right now they have a lull with no

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major college football events until next week, so this is

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a perfect opportunity to shoehorn something on a national stage

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where traditionally people on Saturday nights are jumping over. You

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could have had a good chunk of people, especially here

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in America, who turned over to NBC looking for college

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football and then it was like, oh, I'm just leaving

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on for wrestling. This brings out some nostalgia, so hopefully

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that brought some more eyes and some viewers in just

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based upon that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's cool. And yeah, very much like

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Saturday Night. You might just be a channel scrolling in

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there and there's a wrestling show on there. So definitely,

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I feel like it will definitely attract quite a few

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viewers or many people who maybe this is the only

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wa thing they'll watch this year, but it at least

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got them for for one night.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of trying to attract viewers Live Morgan versus EO Sky,

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the heat for Live Morgan coming out was just hot.

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The amount of booze. I didn't think anyone would reach

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DOM levels. And I don't know how much of that

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has to do with her making her entrance with DOM,

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but that placed the booze rain down on her from

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the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely. Uh yeah, I wasn't fully like

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you said. I wasn't full of like I knew. Honestly,

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she gets booed in because she's a heel. But yeah,

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there's definitely a lot of heat. In addition, I thought

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the crowd the whole night was really really good and

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really into it for all the matches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eosky comes out strong. She's there having a good

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back and forth match. There's I was shocked though, by

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the fact that EO decided to go at it alone.

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the hero, I have to do it myself, where the

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bad guy's like, no, I'm bringing all my homies with me, Like,

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you know there's gonna be some interference, so why not

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just keep damage Control with you. It's set up again

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the obvious. I didn't think any major titles were going

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to change on this show, especially since you had the

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crowning of an inaugural champion. There was no reason to

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have any title changes. But I felt like Live more

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than Eosky. They did what they had to do. Both

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of them are great wrestlers in their own right. Eo

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was able to show her skill on this stage. I

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think there were some times where she kind of carried

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what to do. She knows how to get that heat,

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she knows how to get the crowd working. So I

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think they both gave a pretty great match and then

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to ended with the staredown between Rhea Ripley and Live Morgan,

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so that again that casual viewer, that person, Here's here's

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what's coming next, keep watching, here's what we're setting up for.

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I think that they did a great job. I mean,

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it wasn't top two match out of a five match card,

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but like I said, it was still a good match.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like EO and Live both work matches

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that might start off well, maybe Live more so, but

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it at the start, but then by the end they'll

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be really into it with some really good sequences, and

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like one match I think of like that, despite the

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issues I might have or other people might have with

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this reign from Live, one of my favorite matches from

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this Live was on Rock Yet a match with Zelina,

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and at the start of the crowd was like not

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really into it, but in the end it was like

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on Fire, you had a dom out there, you had

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They just built it up and honestly, EO selling She

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did the cell of the Oblivion, like standing on her

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head pretty much, and yeah, I thought it was a

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fun match. Definitely building towards this rematch with Ria, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's good to build this up. They're

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going to come, hopefully to their culmination match, so it's

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a great reminder to people, Hey, this is what we

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have on the horizon for Live in Ria. It gave

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a good showing for Live that again gives her some

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plausibility to if in the third match she ends up

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beating Ria. You see that she's held her own against

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former champions. It wasn't ass slimy as a victory as

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some heels do. She did hold her own with that match.

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that's a good look on Live's part for setting up

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for the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Then after that we had the uh I'll call it

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the banger match, And that's only because I heard the

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word banger probably ten times during this match. I have

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whenever Gunther's on or Seamus, either of those, I feel

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like I hear the word banger a lot when it

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comes to their matches. But again, this was a good match,

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a good showing for Gunther World Heavyweight Champion. He literally

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saved Damien on that power bomb spot. But and a

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lot of back and forth. I knew Gunther was going

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to retain. I didn't quite have him cleanings pinning Fin

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so clean. That kind of threw me for a loop.

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The shotgun drop kick into the power bomb one two

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three to end it. But other than that, Yeah, they

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they had a great match. Priest looked strong, going to

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look strong. Everyone in that match got a chance to shine.

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I don't know where Finn goes as the head of

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the Judgment day going forward after this, after taking that loss,

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but it was a good showing for all three competitors.

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the whole show. I mean, you know, I'm a big

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Gunther fan. I'm a huge baby faced Damien Priests fan,

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and so he was there in his home state there,

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but I really enjoyed this match. Yeah, like you said,

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banger Goopther, Damien hard hitting there, and you had Finn

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running a flying around them, which I thought was great.

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Maybe best sling blades in the game. He really like

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he catches them on the neck with that thing.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing him do that. And yeah, some great sequences.

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I really appreciate that. It wasn't just like two guys

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fighting while one of them is like dead on the outside,

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of them like fighting at the same time, or like

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getting thrown out or running back in or interrupting each other.

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And like you said, yeah, great finish. He saves Damien

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and he hits the great power Bomb there on the

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steps and power bomb to fin and yeah, that's also different.

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time and it wasn't really working for him, and now

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he's going back to the classic power bomb and gets

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the clean win. And it seems, based on some of

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the videos from afterwards, so that he got his confidence

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back there from beating both these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for where Guntherer continues with this. Like

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you said, I didn't think that he was losing tonight,

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one because they didn't need a major title change on

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this and two the aura of Gunther is that long

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time raining. He is the person you used to hold

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a belt for a while and set somebody up for

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a major win, Like it is a big deal if

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you topple someone like Gunther. So having him get this

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strong win off the power bomb and then steak has

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claim that he is the true champion. Getting his confidence

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back I think is great for him and his character

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going forward. So again, I don't know where Finn and

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his stupid mass that he uses on his intro goes

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from here, but I think that, Yeah, other than the mass,

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all three gave a great show and that is probably

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the worst part of that match was Finn's entrance, but

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the match itself was my favorite of the night from

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a match quality standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you were saying, You're not sure where

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Finn goes from here as leader of the Judgment thing,

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especially when tomorrow they're facing the war Raiders with Judgment

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Dave ban from ringside and it's in the war Raiders hometown.

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So yeah, I don't see that going very well for

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Finn and JD tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yea possible title change happening there. So after that, we

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had the inaugural Women's United States Championship match, Chelsea Green

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versus Meshin. Again, this is the match that made me

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no other titles were probably gonna change hands because you

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were crowning a new inaugural champion at that. As I

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said in the discord, I am a huge Chelsea Green

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stand I love her work. Ever since she's been back,

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her work has been absolutely amazing, from the character to

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the inn room work, everything about her presentation has been wonderful.

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So I was hoping that out of the two, she

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would be the one to win the match and be

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the inaugural champion. She could lose that belt this week

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and no one can take away from her that she's

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an inaugural champion. She could lose that belt this week

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and it would actually help her character that she can

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keep saying, well, I was the inaugural champion. Well you

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can't forget.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, literally literally in the history books

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right there, if you ever look at that title from

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now until forever, it'll say that she was the first champion.

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So yeah.

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Speaker 1: What did catch me off guard was the amount that

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TNA was mentioned. Like again, it was they started off

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with two in a row talking about their histories, their titles,

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their matches. I'm like, I I've gotten used to it

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with n XT. I don't watch NXT as much as

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you do. You are our hardcore resident n XT guy.

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You were one I defer to for my NXT knowledge.

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I watch the big events, I watch shows as I

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have the timer there's nothing going on, but I've gotten

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used to hearing an XT reference and hearing other things reference,

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but this one they were really hammering home that these

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two are both former champions in their own right and

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bringing up their history within TNA, and I thought that

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was cool to show that for the casual viewers who

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may not know who these two are. They are great wrestlers.

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They have been a big deal in other companies around

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the world, and here they are competing for this new,

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soon to be prestigious title. So I thought that was

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a good look by the announcers. Again, it caught me

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off guard when they did it and then immediately did

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it again, but I thought that was a good look.

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And this one was actually my favorite match from just

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a peer enjoyment standpoint, because, like I said, I love

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Chelsea Green's work and that flip over middle rope on

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Prettier that she did to win all the man, that

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was just that was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: So say, I don't think I've even seen a Christian

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do that one before, and it was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, it's not your work rate match,

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but it was just a fun match, and those two

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ladies put on a heck of a show, and I

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think Chelsea Green was the right person to walk away

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as that inaugural United States champion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're saying, I think both of these women

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about a great year, especially this year. I think Chelsea

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Green has probably been just gone more and more popular

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and over despite being like this like heel for this

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whole year, and the Michen has really like raised her

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stock this whole year. I think she had a great

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match EO like the first week of twenty twenty four,

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still one of my favorite matches. And she went down

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to NXD for a while and feuded with the Jada

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Parker and that really elevated Jada Parker as well. And

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she's been back on the main roster on SmackDown, having

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Dumpster Mahtchion Street fight against Naya Jacks, and she's just

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really gotten like I wouldn't even say better, because she's

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always been good, but just more popular and more interesting

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as a character. And I've really I think these two

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were the right choice to be in the finals, and

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Chelsea was the right winner in this final.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a good choice. I'm excited to see where

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she has going forward and things like that. So it's good.

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Let's see Alex in the chat. My only concern is

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how much TV time the women will have now with

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the tag titles, US titles, Main titles. I'm hoping they

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don't get five minute segments. I think that they will

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get more than the five minute segments. I think that

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they will have better opportunities to display on a different week.

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I think this might be a situation where you don't

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get boggled down because the problem with the tag titles

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was there weren't a lot of tag teams, so they

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were just manufacturing tag teams. So then that took other

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people out of contention for any other belts and things

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like that. So I think this gives them an opportunity

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to maybe, all right, this week, we're going to highlight

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the US Championship, and then we'll have a little bit

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of that, then we'll highlight the Tag Team Championship. So

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you're not having the champion appear every week in that arena.

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And it also gives other people more things to do,

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So you have an opportunity to throw in a random

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women's match, and this is your number one contenders match.

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This is things that you can build up for something else.

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For those who are not in the main title picture.

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So you're Zelina Vega's of the worlds and your other

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members of Damage Control, those who aren't chasing the title

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right now. It gives them something to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think especially with and if I'd say

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it's pretty much confirmed that Raw and SmackDown are both

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gonna be going to three hours, I think that adds

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time for them to be featured. And in addition, if

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you have the Saturday Night's main events each quarter, maybe

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some of those, like for example, the Women's Tag Team

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Championships that might not make the Royal Rumble match card

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for example, maybe that could be a big match on

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the Saturday Night's main event, like the week before in January.

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I think that's coming up, so I think they'll make

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time for and especially now if you look at all

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the stuff with the two hour Raw, a lot of

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the backstage segments that you'd see on the show normally

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are now all in social media. So I think when

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it goes to three hours, they'll be adding those back

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in and you'll have some time they're like for example,

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like bron Breaker, like a lot of segments have been

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backstage stuff, but every once of like they've been building

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that sort of slowly, and now he's having this match.

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I think this Monday with the Kaiser, so you can

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see if Raw goes to three hours, well, I mean

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it is going to three hours, you'll have time for

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some of these cars or this week also, I think

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it was like seventy five percent women's wrestling on Raw,

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so you can have like a weekend week out like

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one week something, one week something else, and I think

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there'll be.

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Speaker 1: Time for it. Yeah, I said, it gives opportunities for

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more women to be shown and go from there, which

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can't hurt it. It gives more people a time to shine,

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more people time to go forward, So I'm all four.

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After that, we then go to the undisputed WW Championship

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match again before I get into that, like we were

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talking earlier about feeling like this was the difference between

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this being a special versus a full on pl You

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only had five matches on here, and they weren't like

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long drawn out matches. It seemed to go pretty quick

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like I'm used to with AW when they first started,

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they would have five or six matches, but they would

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be thirty minutes apiece, and the pay per view would

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go on forever. These were pretty quick butt solid matches.

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So we end this out with the fifth matches, undisputed

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ww Championship. Cody Rhoads versus Kevin owens Ko has been

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making a showing not only on TV but also on

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social media, just going full on just being himself and

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it has been great and as we all suspect it

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from the promo with triple as the One Night Only,

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Cody Rhodes comes out with a version of the Winged

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Eagle belt. I say a version because his was more

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of a navy blue leather where the Winged Engle has

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been black blue and things like that. I believe the

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wing Eagle spent most of its time with the black

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leather and didn't transition into the blue leather till right

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before they went into the globe style w W Championship.

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But it comes out winged Eagle belt the One Night

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Only Again, you get that good nostalgia feel and I

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think that they had a pretty good match overall, with

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some some nice little nods, a lot of callbacks and

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shout out Sarandy Orton during this match, but no, it

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was a good match. Jess Venture on commentary again was

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a highlight his disdain for the Rhodes family and therefore

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Cody was just immaculate, and the whole build up of

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Cody being the arrogance things like that leading up to

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it really set the stage for how this match ended.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the match before at Bash and Berlin,

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which I think at the time I said, I wasn't

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a huge I didn't dislike it, but there were a

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lot of people really loving it, and I wasn't one

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of those. And I think I'm enjoyed this match about

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the same. I think I like the story going into it,

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and I think it's definitely interesting with how it ended,

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especially the stuff that happened afterwards. But I think even

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with Cody using sort of the chair that Ko brought

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in and is an interesting detail there. And yeah, I

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liked the match, And yeah, like you said, the wing

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do you Go title looked awesome there, And yeah, I'm

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very interested how this goes and when the next match

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is happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ko taking the title at the end saying this

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is mine now. I do like the fact that. And

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I know some people are complaining and you had an

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excellent post about this over on x Slash Twitter. People

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are complaining about the social media aspect of it. I

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have been a fan of these fancam footage results, the

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things that happened after the show. It gets me involved,

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It gets me searching Twitter for more views of it,

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more fancam footage, more angles of it. So I think

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it adds an extra layer. And in this era that

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we're in with people constantly online and seeking that information,

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to me, this this is great stuff. And we all

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know Triple H spends a lot of time on social

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media looking at things, looking at trends, so this is great.

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The attack afterwards to get in his face. I don't

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know if you've seen Ko's Twitter lately, but he has

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been taking those posts and he's reposting it, but he's

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changing the narrative. So the image of Triple H coming

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out and confronting him, he reposts it and says exclusive

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Triple H comes out to think Kevin Owens after the

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match for stopping like he's changed it to make himself

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be the good guy. And it's just it's been class

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stuff that's really setting up again. We knew Cody was

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going to keep this championship. Cody's not losing this thing.

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Before WrestleMania, we all know there's too much at stake.

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00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,119
He's selling too hot. He's the quote unquote quarterback right now,

479
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:02,240
he's leading the federation. There's no way that he's dropping

480
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,200
it right now. But the stuff that Kayo has been

481
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,480
doing with him has just been classed. Even on the

482
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:12,000
opening videos when they were showing them arriving to the

483
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:16,240
arena and Kao arrives wearing a gold dust shirt, I'm

484
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,160
just like this guy.

485
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,279
Speaker 2: He's had some great shirts. I don't know if you

486
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,440
saw all the different ones he's had. He had He's

487
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,759
had a dusty one, a star dust one, a gold

488
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:32,640
dust one, and while he was wearing his Canadian Dream

489
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:36,079
shirt there, which I really like that design.

490
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do wonder where Cody is going as a

491
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:46,720
character after this, because he started to implore a lot

492
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,519
of heel tactics towards the end. So I don't know

493
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:56,079
if this is the slow descent into Homelander Cody that

494
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,200
we're getting, or if this is one of those you

495
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,640
did it so I did it tech maneuvers like I

496
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,559
would love to see Cody. They justify it.

497
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Cody was saying, you know, he'd do anything to win,

498
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,640
and Ko didn't think he would do that because he

499
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,200
was the Golden Boy of w A. So Cody did

500
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640
exactly what he said he was gonna do, and Ko

501
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:19,759
wasn't happy about that.

502
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Cody gets to win. Like I said, we

503
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:28,799
all we all saw that coming. It was a good match.

504
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,240
But again, the highlights of this match were the intros,

505
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,759
the postmatch, and Jesse Ventura. Those were the three highlights

506
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,720
of this match. Only downside would be the constant ref bumps.

507
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,839
I think there was too much. I get it, you

508
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,160
needed it in order to have the whole chair spot,

509
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:54,279
but ref bump after ref bump and then Charles Robinson

510
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
standing outside of the ring giving the pin, it just

511
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,519
seemed a little bit hokey. But on that the match

512
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:01,480
served its purpose.

513
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. At the at the time, I want to say it,

514
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,160
A huge fan of it. But I think with this

515
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,039
whole story of Kevin thinking he's the rightful champion for

516
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,559
multiple reasons, I think that'll uh, that'll work.

517
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the same here at the time, I'm like, well,

518
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,400
that's a weird ending. But then with all the postmatch stuff,

519
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,440
I'm like, Okay, I see where we're going with the

520
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,559
who is the quote unquote real winner of this?

521
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think also it's a good idea, especially

522
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:35,640
to keep that wing Eagle around on TV for a

523
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,599
little bit longer.

524
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, I can very well see him rocking

525
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:45,000
up with it, saying, Hey, no, I'm I'm the champion.

526
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,559
This is my championship, like I earned this, you screwed me,

527
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,880
but this is mine. So I if they keep the

528
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,359
wing Eagle around for that reason, to have the who's

529
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,440
the world champion type deal before another face off where

530
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,599
Cody will win and just be outright and continue rocking

531
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,200
the current iteration of the Universal Championship, I'm all for it.

532
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,759
Plus it sells some more belts. I would love to

533
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:15,799
see the metrics on how many of the Winged Eagle

534
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,519
belts they sold immediately after Cody made his entrance.

535
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if they'll released may be like a

536
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:28,319
Cody specific wing Eagle belt like they did the cmpunk

537
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Spinner and make it like limited edition stuff like that.

538
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,160
I can see them selling that all. Right.

539
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,119
Speaker 1: Before I go on to the raw Netflix premiere predictions,

540
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
I do have to touch on that CM punk spinner.

541
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,279
CM Punk hated the spinner, so why did they make

542
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,000
a special edition seem punk Spinner belt for the man

543
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,839
who wanted to dead the Spinner belt.

544
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,559
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm sure he's pretty happy with how

545
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,839
the sales of that. He was posted a picture there

546
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,559
of him signing like everything on one of them.

547
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean collection residuals. But I was just like, he's

548
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:08,960
got a bitter, like, yeah, I just wanted to produce

549
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,359
something because it makes no sense.

550
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, they've done. Like if you go on the

551
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880
WW shop, they have some like weird custom ones out there,

552
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,759
Like I think there's like a like a Sean Michaels one,

553
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,519
a Brett Hart one, there's like a Hogan one that's

554
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,240
just like it's just like whatever belt, but just like

555
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,319
colored to be there in their colors, and they I

556
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,119
don't know. I don't think if I had to, if

557
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960
I could buy one of those reflica belts, I'm not

558
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,480
sure i'd ever get one of those custom ones, especially

559
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,079
if they've never appeared like on TV. But I guess

560
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,759
if you're a real collector you might or want one

561
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:49,279
of those.

562
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I just signed into shop dot ww dot com and

563
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,559
the banner is available until twelve sixteen at eight pm

564
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:06,279
Eastern Times. Item Cody Rhodes leaned Eagle title. So yeah,

565
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:10,119
they are gonna they're gonna get their money. They are

566
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,159
gonna get their money. They're gonna get their title belts. Yeah,

567
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:19,639
I'm not a fan of some of the signature series

568
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,679
is I believe what they call it those belts, the

569
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,920
whull Cogan one looked ugly in my opinion. They gave

570
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,760
the Deadly Boys a tag team one and it's just

571
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,639
literally the old school tag team belt with kind of

572
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,760
a camo feel to it for the Deadly Boys. Like

573
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,800
it just there's so many of the I'm just like,

574
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,519
this doesn't make sense. You guys just threw a call

575
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,280
away on the back of a title and hope everyone's

576
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:46,800
gonna buy it.

577
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. They Yeah, It's like if I got one, i'd

578
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,679
definitely just get it like a normal one. I feel

579
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,800
like then a very customized. I mean, unless you're just

580
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,039
like the biggest Dudley Boys fan up there, you really

581
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:03,239
want that's Yeah.

582
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: When I got my replica, I got a repla of

583
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,679
the old school World Heavyweight title. I got that replica

584
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,239
because that's the belt that I grew up on. I

585
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,199
didn't need one of the special ones that had a

586
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,920
different color strap or anything else. I just want them

587
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,639
like this is the belt I grew up on, So

588
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,800
this is the one that I want.

589
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's see.

590
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: So raw Netflix premiere predictions. January sixth is coming up,

591
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:37,440
as they tell us five times a show, so I

592
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:41,639
know right now we've got Roman Reigns and Solo scheduled

593
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:47,480
for that. There's been reports of the Rock coming back

594
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:51,800
for that. There's most likely definitely going to be a

595
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,079
title change on that show. It reminds me of when

596
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,239
SmackDown moved to Fox and they had brock Lessner kill

597
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,239
Kofe on that first night, just to have the big

598
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,639
title change, the big moment going forward. So do you

599
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,039
have any predictions for this first episode on Netflix.

600
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 2: I think first we can lay out sort of the card,

601
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:19,719
or at least what we imagine the card to be,

602
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,360
based on some confirmed stuff and some reported stuff which

603
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,159
I think is gonna be true. So I'd say we

604
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,199
have Roman Reigns versus Solo Sokoa for the Oula Falla.

605
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,800
That one is confirmed officially. We have most likely seth

606
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Rons versus seeing Punk happening on that show. We have

607
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:49,360
what else is there? I think is the Women's Intercontinental title.

608
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,639
I think finals happening on there. I think that's the report,

609
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:59,920
and then presumably I think Ria versus Live is happening

610
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,599
on that show as well.

611
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the ones that we know about for

612
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,599
sure that are going to happen on that show. Right now,

613
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:18,199
that's just four confirmed slash semi confirmed matches. I have

614
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,840
a feeling with this they are probably going to pack

615
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,840
on one or two more. I think that even though

616
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Cody is a SmackDown guy, you're going to have some

617
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,800
sort of appearance from Cody with the title on there.

618
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think John Cena confirmed to appear on the show.

619
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,760
And then another note, I assume Romans solo like including

620
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,960
entrances and knowing Romans matches I think could be like

621
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:55,639
a forty five minute type match. So that's also to

622
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,840
take into consideration in terms of how many other matches

623
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,360
could be at onto there all.

624
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Right now, my thing is, so dush Roman in the show?

625
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:13,719
Do we end with the bloodlines ula follow appearance or

626
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,880
will there be some sort of championship match too in

627
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,199
the show?

628
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. You think it's Roman so he's

629
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:31,719
main eventing the show, but yeah, if the only other

630
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,000
championship match we pretty much know is happening there would

631
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,599
be well we have the Intercontinent on one, but I

632
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,880
don't think that one is main eventing, So I would

633
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,559
say we have Ria versus Live, which my prediction has

634
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,760
been that there will be a title change there with

635
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:54,320
Reo winning. So but then maybe because I don't think, well,

636
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,239
I assume it'll just start with like the show will

637
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,400
begin with like a promo. Obviously, I assume John Cena

638
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,880
probably coming out first. Oh yeah, talk about being on

639
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Netflix and such. Maybe Triple H comes out there to

640
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:16,400
Cody Rhodes. You got everyone out there, and then yeah,

641
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,800
I'm not sure what the match order really will will

642
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,760
be here now I'm thinking about it.

643
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:25,119
Speaker 1: So I feel like, right now you have to have

644
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,239
Gunther appear on the show as well. He is your

645
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,320
World Heavyweight Champion, which is technically your raw brand, so

646
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,119
he has to be there in some shape or form.

647
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,280
What I could see happening is you have Gunther's start

648
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,079
off the show, get the booze and everything, and he

649
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:47,800
is interrupted by John Cena. John Cena has his hero moment.

650
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
They don't necessarily have a match, but you get your

651
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,320
showing of your World Heavyweight title match, You get your

652
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,119
John Cena moment before you kick off the show. I

653
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,840
think Roman versus Solo will end the show, and I

654
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,199
think that Roman Versus will end the show because of

655
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:08,639
the Rock. So if you're going to have a Rock appearance,

656
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,119
you either do it top of the show or you

657
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,360
close out the show one or the other. So I

658
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,519
think that if you're gonna have John Cena as a

659
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:22,599
part of the opening, then you have Rock as the closer.

660
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:28,719
You continue whatever this storyline is with the bloodline. Is

661
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,199
he coming back? Who's he going to face? That's that's

662
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,360
where we go from there. I there's the talks of

663
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,039
him not being at WrestleMania, so that that will kind

664
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,360
of lead to our is he going to be someone

665
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,719
who is set up for WrestleMania or are we gonna

666
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,760
go ahead and get his part of the blood line

667
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,880
out right now? But I think because of the Rock,

668
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,920
you have Solo and Roman ended.

669
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the report right now is the creative

670
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,519
plans don't have the Rock in them. But if the

671
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,639
Rock were to show off on January fifth to WW

672
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,800
and TKO and say I want to have a match

673
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,679
at WrestleMania, He'll have a match at WrestleMania. That's the

674
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,960
simple answer. So it really comes down to like I

675
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000
think at this point in the creative plans, Rock's not there.

676
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,039
But at the same time, by the time we get

677
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,639
to that show, it could very well end with the

678
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,599
Rock and Roman peace by the end. So hard to say.

679
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: Alex says, I think they might tease a Rock scene

680
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,800
a moment they could. Only reason I would go against

681
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,840
that is because they just had all of them as

682
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,360
part of the WrestleMania forty one situation, So I think

683
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,559
they might not go back to that well just yet.

684
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: Maybe. I think if you tease it again and don't

685
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,679
do the match, then it's like, Okay, now you're just

686
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,039
teasing it for teasing. I think if they do, if

687
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:15,599
they do another like tease like actual moments, then they'll

688
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,000
have some sort of match. But if not, they want

689
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:19,599
to keep it apart.

690
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:25,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to throw it on a non

691
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,639
WrestleMania p l which I do think that they could

692
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,840
bring the Rock and Sena in as part of Sena's

693
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,760
go Home tour and do it on a non WrestleMania show.

694
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,559
If they are saving the big.

695
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 2: Of Summer Slam and you need to sell those tickets, Yeah,

696
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,639
you could have a Rock and Sena Summer slam match exactly.

697
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: So I don't think that this would be the opportunity

698
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,639
to tease that Rock scene moment only because if it's

699
00:42:54,679 --> 00:43:00,639
not going somewhere sometime soon, there's no point. And I

700
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,719
don't think it would be a good ideal if you

701
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,679
if the plans are for Sena Rock WrestleMania three, for

702
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,119
you to put that out there now, because you have

703
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,360
all this intensity with him in the bloodline, you don't

704
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,000
need to distract from that with this possible matchup with

705
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:19,920
someone who has nothing to do with any of this

706
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:21,920
on down the line. So I think because they just

707
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,480
had their moments at WrestleMania forty one as part of

708
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:29,480
that big brawl and everything else, they will hold off

709
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:30,920
on Rock Sena.

710
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree there.

711
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: So I do think that, like you said, Rhea takes

712
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,960
the title, But who do you have winning the women's

713
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:45,960
I see title.

714
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: I think I think there's there's a couple. I think

715
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,840
there's two good stories you could tell here, I think,

716
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,000
and they involved like Valkyria and Becky Lynch. I assume

717
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:07,119
is coming back on this show, So I think if

718
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,320
you have and the rumor is Becky wants to do

719
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,280
something different, so I assume that means she's turning heel

720
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,400
and and I think there's a story there of maybe

721
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:23,559
Lara Valkyria failing at this icy title and Becky not

722
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,440
seeing maybe why her padawan here is not a succeeded

723
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,280
while she was gone and being upset at that, and

724
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,599
then that's a few there. Or you gonna have Larra

725
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,280
win it, and then just Becky is like, I'm gonna

726
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,199
challenge you for it.

727
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,519
Speaker 1: No, no love for Natalia.

728
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. I think one of the

729
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,679
options is Lara doesn't win it. In that case, I

730
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,800
assume that's how I would win it, for that heart

731
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,639
connection and just being a big part of WWE for

732
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:00,000
a long time and helping obviously a lot of these women,

733
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,199
and I think she would want to do that. She

734
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,840
already does that helping other people, and with this title,

735
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,199
I think she could do that. So I think those

736
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,599
are the two sort of options there. But wait, also,

737
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,519
oh wait no, because Larra isn't in. Are they on

738
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,119
the same side of the bracket?

739
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:23,199
Speaker 1: I think they are, uh Lyra albafire.

740
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 2: Let's see. I think That'sally and Lyra are on the

741
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:28,280
same side of the bracket.

742
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,639
Speaker 1: Yes, so it would be either the winner of Natalia

743
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,920
Kyrie Sane Albafire versus Lever Valkyria. Then you have the

744
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,320
winner of Zoe Stark where Cail Rodriguez Kid and Carter

745
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:49,440
versus Dakota Kai. So I have it as Natalia pulling

746
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:55,360
off the win against Lyra. I'm not sure who she

747
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,079
would face. I honestly think as much as I like

748
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,280
Dakota Kai, I don't think that they're gonna ge to

749
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,599
her just because of the injuries and other things. I

750
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:05,079
don't think you want to start her off with the

751
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:08,400
belt until after she's been back in the ring for

752
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,920
a substantial amount of time without injury or time off.

753
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,480
I could see Zoe Stark being in the finals only

754
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,320
because I think she would be a good matchup against

755
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,000
either Lyra or Natalia. And if it's for Cail Rodriguez

756
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:31,000
is literally just to further the judgment day situation. I

757
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,239
don't think Carter really has a chance. She is my

758
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:40,000
one that I'm absolutely like I do. I don't see

759
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:46,639
any part of Cait and Carter taking this. So, but

760
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,159
I would say Zoe versus an Italia in the finals

761
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,559
with an Italia winning it. I think that they could

762
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,719
put on a good, solid match.

763
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

764
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: And for the Intercontinental on men's side, how it always

765
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,639
had the theme of being the quote unquote the workhorse championship.

766
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,760
I think that that's another reason why I would lean

767
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,199
towards Natalia, because she has been the workhorse of the

768
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:21,159
w W women's division, whether it is training young superstars,

769
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,679
helping out wherever she can, doing whatever's asked of her.

770
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,199
I mean, the girl went through a whole farting gimmick

771
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,960
for a very long time. I think she has earned

772
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,920
that respect and that chance to go down in the

773
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,119
history books. Yeah.

774
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: I think that's a good option there.

775
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Let's see other than that talked about Becky maybe returning.

776
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,320
I think if Becky returns, it would be in a

777
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,199
form of whoever wins, she's gonna step up and say, hey,

778
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,880
I want to face you so And even with that,

779
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,440
if it is a Natalia and Natalia wins, just like

780
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,199
I said about Chelsea Green, and she immediately loses on

781
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,639
her first time out to Becky, I wouldn't be mad.

782
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,119
She's in the history books as that championship. You can't

783
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,400
take that away from her. Do I want her to

784
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,400
go in a little bit of a longer run with it,

785
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:24,400
of course, because I do think that she deserves to

786
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:29,440
have the people reminded of just how good she is

787
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,119
in the ring. But I could see a situation where

788
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,800
Becky returns and she's like, I'm next up.

789
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

790
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: All right, moving on early WrestleMania predictions. Do you have

791
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,280
anything that you think already this is going to be

792
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,119
a moment, this is going to be something that is

793
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,199
going to pop off.

794
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,639
Speaker 2: Well, I have some stuff here written down, and I

795
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:04,880
guess that links back to if we keep talking about

796
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:11,599
this first Raw, it's the whole Punk Rollins the situation here.

797
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,280
So obviously, well the rumors they're gonna have their match

798
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:22,239
at the raw Netflix premiere. So I think the two

799
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,639
options that means is that's either the start of a

800
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,199
series or like leading to WrestleMania, or this is gonna

801
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:35,920
be like their match Punk and Rolins do something different

802
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:40,400
at Mania and then maybe continue that after into the

803
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:46,039
summer and stuff like that. So I have some options

804
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:52,039
of like WrestleMania options for the men here, I can

805
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:52,960
read them off.

806
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: Go for it.

807
00:49:55,639 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: So I think one of the options like that could

808
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,440
is obviously the Punk Roman match at WrestleMania. I think

809
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,920
with a lot of hype behind it and obviously the views,

810
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:13,880
the Instagram views that people haven't talk about, that could happen.

811
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:21,440
In that case, I think Seth could fight Gunther at WrestleMania,

812
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,159
possibly because I feel like I don't think they've had

813
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,639
a match for a title. I don't think so, or

814
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:33,840
at least not the Icy or the World Heavyweight Championship.

815
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:41,599
And then I think apossible option is Cody Sena at Mania,

816
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,760
or I have the other option, which I think is

817
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:50,480
more simple, sort of ish, which would be Gunter Sena,

818
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,360
which is what I think most people think is gonna happen.

819
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:58,440
You would have Seth and Punk at WrestleMania. I assume

820
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,599
that'd be maybe their third match, second match. I'm not

821
00:51:01,639 --> 00:51:04,280
sure how if they want to continue that afterwards or

822
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,079
if that'll be the big ending. And then you'd have

823
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:11,920
Roman versus Jacob, which I think is a big option

824
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:14,719
for a match, and that's been the rumor for a

825
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,320
while that Roman really wants to have a match with

826
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:20,800
the Jacob. But then that leads me, I don't really

827
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,800
know what Cody would do if it's not the Rock.

828
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,559
If you have if you have Punks, Good, Thirceina Roman,

829
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,559
all tied up in their own stuff. I really don't

830
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,800
know what Cody would do in that case.

831
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:44,199
Speaker 1: I have thought the same thing, like the different configurations

832
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,920
of who Roman could face, there are so many, but

833
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,559
when it comes to Cody, you're very limited just in

834
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:56,639
how things have been set up. I could see him

835
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:01,239
going against Punk for the championship, and I feel like

836
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:06,840
if he beats Punk, it would not be that big

837
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,119
of a deal to Punk. If he gets that WrestleMania

838
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:13,880
main event moment, then I think that he would be

839
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,320
okay taking the loss, especially at this point in his career.

840
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,280
Punk ten years ago might have had something to say

841
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,320
Punk of right now I think would be okay with that.

842
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:31,599
I could see I could see Roman doing a to

843
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,320
night thing where if they are really trying to stretch

844
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,280
out everything going on with the bloodline, where the final

845
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,639
nail in the coffin happens on night two, depending on

846
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:51,840
what happens with the raw Netflix premiere. So say somehow

847
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,880
Solo beats Roman on the raw Netflix premiere, Shenanigan's foot whatever,

848
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:03,119
and they extended out to WrestleMania. Could see Roman face

849
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,079
and Jacob night one for the chance to take back

850
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:11,079
the Bloodline all Night two by beating Solo. I could

851
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:15,400
see them stretching out that Bloodline stuff to that degree,

852
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,039
and I wouldn't be mad about it. I don't know

853
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,519
exactly who you have John Cena face off on, because

854
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:28,760
that that's gonna be be a big match. That is

855
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,840
that is gonna be a big match. I don't think

856
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,239
that that will highlight either night of WrestleMania.

857
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: And excuse me.

858
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,079
Speaker 1: The reason that I don't think it will highlight either

859
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:45,519
night of WrestleMania is because I don't see John Cena winning.

860
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,000
I see John Cena wanting to make a star out

861
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:57,440
of somebody. So this would be his last WrestleMania, but

862
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,679
it's not his last match, so you still have more

863
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,400
John Cena appearances. Afterwards, they said, yes, it would be

864
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,519
his last WrestleMania, but that's not the end of the

865
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:10,159
road for him, so you still have SummerSlam and other

866
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:13,800
opportunities for him to do some things. So I see

867
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,599
him using this as an opportunity to make a star,

868
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:24,480
and that would be honestly. I could see him versus

869
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:29,880
Bronze Breaker for that, or if Gunther still has the title,

870
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,400
him versus Gunther. I don't see him going against Cody.

871
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,920
I don't see American hero, American hero. That's not where

872
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,400
I really see that going unless you're planning on going

873
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,840
full Homelander. Now, if you're going full home Lander, if

874
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,440
you're going full Heill Cody, then yes, do it and

875
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,920
do it hard, go full stop on it.

876
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just trying to figure out, like it's

877
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,119
sort of when I was trying to reorganize everything into

878
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:01,840
the possible combinations, the question was always like, when does

879
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Cody really get here? And those one of the I

880
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
don't think it's I don't think Cody Cena is happening.

881
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,920
But when I was writing down just the bunch of possibilities,

882
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,679
I mean, honestly, it's a possible and Philly w Champion

883
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,280
and John Cena.

884
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: No so I said, I would like John Cena to

885
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,039
get his his record breaking beat flair, but I don't

886
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,880
feel like that is on his agenda. He does not

887
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:36,519
strike me as the time as the type to come

888
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:37,360
back for that.

889
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: I think I think it will happen, but I agree

890
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,440
with you that I don't think it will be at WRESTLINGIA.

891
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is the time to make a

892
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:54,320
star and I think that is exactly what they are

893
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,239
going to do with that, is use that as an

894
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:03,639
opportunity to make a star or even set up for

895
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,960
where he's going down the line. And if you're if

896
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,360
you're gonna do that, I'm fine with it. Let it

897
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,840
be a mid card match. Let him either take the pin,

898
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,920
but give the crowd some time to just enjoy him

899
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,559
while you're setting up for whatever mid show concert or

900
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:27,239
whatever else you're doing, and go from there. I don't

901
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,119
see him topping either of those nights. I do see

902
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:38,800
Punk headlining at least one night of WrestleMania. Yeah, And

903
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,400
whether it be for a championship or not, not sure.

904
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:45,639
I don't know if they continue the Seth feud after

905
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,679
this and they have their final blowoff at WrestleMania. Either way,

906
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,280
I feel like they are going to give him that

907
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,599
opportunity to headline one night.

908
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

909
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:08,159
Speaker 1: Now my question is, is there any major championship that

910
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:14,320
you see already crashing out at WrestleMania?

911
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: All right?

912
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Can you look on the horizon and go, you know what,

913
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:21,280
I think You're only gonna hold this belt to WrestleMania

914
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:22,360
and then lose it.

915
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm trying to think. I think I think

916
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:40,039
whoever is the women's champion like SmackDown Women's Women's Uh.

917
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,039
I think just w a women's championship, it is called

918
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,639
whoever it is is losing to Charlotte Flair at WRESTLINGA.

919
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:50,199
I don't think it matters. I don't think it matters

920
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:55,000
who specifically it is. But I think they're they're losing there.

921
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's the same thought that I had,

922
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,840
the exact same thought.

923
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: But I think I think it will be Tiffany versus

924
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:09,440
Charlotte at WrestleMania, with Charlotte winning. And I think this

925
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:12,480
is a thing that could be like the Ria and

926
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:16,360
Charlotte match where they had their match at WrestleMania in

927
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:21,480
twenty twenty, the Performance Center one, which then that one

928
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,920
was for the NXTV title, but Charlotte won that one,

929
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,519
and then a few years later Rhea got her win

930
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,960
back at WrestleMania, and I think the same story could

931
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,679
possibly be told with Tiffany and Charlotte.

932
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I'm not gonna lie. I was so

933
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,960
disappointed about that Performance Center match. I was so looking

934
00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:44,280
for it to Rea doing her things. She comes out

935
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,800
in the vegeta outfit. I'm already stoked about that, and

936
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,480
then when she lost, is like, wait what but that

937
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,719
that's what we're doing. Yeah, so I could. I did

938
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,119
think strongly that this would be the the Charlotte Showcase,

939
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,920
and I could. I could see Tiffany Stratton cashing in

940
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,559
around Royal Rumble time and having that belt and then

941
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:14,079
here comes Charlotte like yeah, and I you can go, hey,

942
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:19,920
give me that, that's mine. So yeah, I agree with

943
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,280
you there that that is the only title that right

944
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,480
now I can guarantee say, yeah, this one's gonna change

945
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:27,960
hands because Charlotte's going to Charlotte.

946
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. And another one that I feel might not be

947
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,639
on as many people's mind is I think bron Breaker

948
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:42,639
will lose his Intercontinental Championship at Wrestleania. I feel my

949
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,559
dream would be he loses it to shame this for

950
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:53,079
that big Wrestlania moment. But there there's other options I possible,

951
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,840
but that's my my dream booking there. That one's not

952
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,400
the one lock for me, as the the Charlotte one

953
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:02,239
is like the one is like that is happening, Like

954
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,039
there's no doubt in my mind, you know.

955
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't on my radar, But I'm okay with it.

956
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,159
If that's how you want to give Seamus that nod,

957
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:17,159
I'm okay with it because I do want him to

958
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:20,199
get that. Seamus has been an incredible worker. He has

959
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,360
come a long way. Yes, he was pushed hard, fast

960
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320
and early, and it kind of threw a weird taste

961
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,039
in people's mouth. You also had him involved in the

962
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,960
whole Roman Reigns glow up and the multiple championships and

963
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:39,000
headlines and things like that. That kind of sturts to people.

964
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:41,679
So yeah, I think this is a good time. He's

965
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:44,800
been putting on some great mattress. He's been holding it down.

966
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,079
If you want to give him his run with the

967
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,360
IC belt at this point, I go ahead. I know

968
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,320
that there's probably going to be a huge shake up

969
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,039
between now and WrestleMania with the rosters, so all this

970
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:02,719
could just be out the window, depending on whose TV

971
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,360
deal makes someone want to have someone else on a roster. Yeah,

972
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,880
so we will see from there, because that's also going

973
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,920
to do a huge shake up to our own rosters

974
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,960
in our own draft because a lot of these changes. Man,

975
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,159
he's like, all right, who's going to start facing it.

976
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:25,159
Speaker 2: We could do a little mini segment here, who you

977
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,199
think is going to change shows and maybe who you

978
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,960
would want to maybe change shows.

979
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: I think that Roman is definitely jumping over to Raw.

980
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,960
I think that he is a known name and face,

981
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,119
and if you're not going to pull Cody back over

982
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,519
with the ww Championship, if you're going to leave Gonther

983
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,800
as your champion, then you're pulling Roman over because you

984
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,599
want that that big known name. So I could definitely

985
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:08,679
see Roman being a staple of the Netflix error going forward.

986
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:16,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. One group that this isn't so much a prediction

987
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:18,960
more of a want of who I want to change

988
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:24,679
hands is either you move priests to SmackDown or you

989
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,039
move the judgment day to SmackDown, because I think both

990
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:33,079
those could really help both Like either you could have

991
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:35,880
a for example, priest, he could be in the US

992
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,280
title scene on SmackDown and you could have matches against

993
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,519
Mellow and Andrade and some of those people who he

994
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,599
hasn't really had matches with before. Or if you move

995
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:50,280
for example like JD and Finn and Dominic and those

996
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,400
too SmackDown, I think that could be tag division ad

997
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:57,360
US title you could have been versus Cody as a

998
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,880
that could be a like let's say you need a

999
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,519
match for Elimination Chamber. There you go Finn Valor vs.

1000
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:07,880
Cody Rhoades for the title, Like, there's your match there.

1001
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:11,079
So I think either the Judgment days moving to SmackDown

1002
01:03:11,519 --> 01:03:15,320
or Priests and also to separate them after so much feuding,

1003
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,400
unless that is going to Mania and you're getting Priests

1004
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,039
through to suspend at Mania. I guess that's the third

1005
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,760
possible option. But I'm hoping one of them makes a

1006
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,280
change and that could help them and help the divisions

1007
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,480
on both shows.

1008
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:34,079
Speaker 1: I could. I would be okay with Finn going over

1009
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,360
to smack Down and taking the entire Judgment Day with them,

1010
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,840
just giving them a fresh start, especially if liv loses

1011
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,239
the title to Rhea, then you don't have that aspect

1012
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,119
holding them down. Send them over, I mean, they continue

1013
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:56,039
to be a focal point of the programming, so that

1014
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,280
just you plug them into SmackDown, you have them get

1015
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,079
back to their whole running wild style instead of just

1016
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:07,639
these feuds that they've been having where it's one on

1017
01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:09,880
one with the same people. They can go back to

1018
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,000
just running rough shot over the entire show. So I

1019
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,480
think that would be a good change of pace for them,

1020
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,480
and then it also gives you time to build Finn

1021
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,719
back up, because I do think Finn is in desperate

1022
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,840
need of a reglow up.

1023
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think SmackDown has more people you could have,

1024
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,400
for example, Finn like beats that aren't just like complete

1025
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:40,920
like lower carters, because I think Raw doesn't really have

1026
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:45,320
like Raw goes from like Otis to like Shamus like

1027
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,920
really quick, like there's no really like I wouldn't say,

1028
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,719
like all the mid carters are all pretty like established

1029
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:55,639
that like them losing would be like I would say,

1030
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:58,920
like a big deal but like significant, like you can't

1031
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,000
have so and still losing all the time to build

1032
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:05,880
someone else up. On SmackDown, I feel like there's a

1033
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,320
couple more people. Maybe maybe this doesn't make full sense,

1034
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,079
I'm thinking about it, but either way, I want to

1035
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:13,880
own SmackDown.

1036
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:18,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then SmackDown's got an incredible tag division with

1037
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:22,920
DIY with most city machine guns, So if you are

1038
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,679
going to take Bin over there, and if you want

1039
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:26,599
to keep them doing the tag team thing, you have

1040
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,320
opportunities over there as well. So yeah, I could definitely

1041
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,480
see them being the ones that pop over and make

1042
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:34,280
that switch.

1043
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: And then that's not even considering possible NXT call ups here,

1044
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,599
because I think there are a couple NXT people who

1045
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:46,000
could be getting called up soon.

1046
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,719
Speaker 1: That is definitely, especially with the move to Netflix, I

1047
01:05:51,760 --> 01:06:00,519
could definitely see that happening. Is there a big pl

1048
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,960
between now and January six for nxt?

1049
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:09,599
Speaker 2: There's one the day after January sixth ool, there's New

1050
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:14,119
Year's Evil, So I.

1051
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: Could see uh Trick getting caught up and then losing

1052
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,920
the next night on UH New Year's Evil.

1053
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:26,719
Speaker 2: I mean people have noticed on the raw is Netflix ads,

1054
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:30,920
it's all raw people, all the big stars, and Trick

1055
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:34,599
like he's the only NXT person shown. So I feel

1056
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:37,039
like someone at Netflix was like, we want this guy

1057
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:40,440
on our show. Yeah, and yeah, I feel like Trick

1058
01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:44,320
losing the OVA FEMI is like a one hundred at

1059
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,280
this point, that's the one you can lock in. Yeah,

1060
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,280
So I think a call up would be possible. I

1061
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,440
don't think. I don't think he needs a call up

1062
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,000
this early. I think he's one of those you could

1063
01:06:57,079 --> 01:07:01,920
leave an extra year for, like bron Breaker, Like people

1064
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,280
thought he was gonna get called up like a year ago,

1065
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,760
and with that extra year, he did the whole thing

1066
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,599
with Baron Corbin and that got him way more over

1067
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:12,039
an experience than if he had been called up a

1068
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:15,280
year prior. So I don't think calling up Trick would

1069
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,239
be a good idea, but I think it might be possible.

1070
01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:22,440
But some others I do think are getting called up

1071
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:26,320
and would be like time for them. Maybe not like

1072
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:30,599
by the Netflix premiere, but I'd say in many a season,

1073
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:33,119
maybe a little bit after Raw, after Mania and that

1074
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:36,679
sort of stuff. I think Wes Lee is getting called up.

1075
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:42,800
I think Ethan Page could be possibly getting called up

1076
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:45,960
because he's one of those that's like he's already had

1077
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,519
wrestling experience for like eighteen years or whatever it is,

1078
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,280
so it's not one of those that needs to stay

1079
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,119
in NXC for a while unless you keep him ask

1080
01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:58,840
someone to put people over in that case, and for

1081
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,199
the women, I could see maybe them finally calling up

1082
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:07,719
like Ballon Henley or like Gigi Dolan and j C.

1083
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:13,719
Jane and putting them on some shows. Uh. And I'm

1084
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:15,360
trying to think who else is like one of the

1085
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:18,840
Like Wesley is my most like I'm pretty sure he's

1086
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,560
getting called up soon, and outside of that, I'm not

1087
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,479
really sure. But mostly.

1088
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it comes to inn next ceiling said, I

1089
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,199
I know a good chunk of the roster, but not

1090
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:39,159
the full scope of them. I don't think you're bringing

1091
01:08:39,239 --> 01:08:41,640
up Julia already. You may bring up Rock.

1092
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:46,159
Speaker 2: I think Julia, well there's Rocks. Oh yeah, Rock Sanferce.

1093
01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:48,880
That's definitely one of was getting She's definitely getting called up.

1094
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,680
I think Julia is be well. Actually, now that you

1095
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,920
bring you reminded me of that because I completely forgot

1096
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,520
about it, but now I'll lay it out here. So yeah,

1097
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,760
I think Julia is beating Roxanne on that New Year's

1098
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,239
Evil and she gets called up. And then I think

1099
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:11,000
at Standing the Deliver, you have Stephanie vicer beat Julia

1100
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,279
and then Julia gets called up like raw after Mania.

1101
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:18,159
Speaker 1: I could definitely see that.

1102
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:24,399
Speaker 2: And then I assume whenever Vicare loses the title, she

1103
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,000
gets called up. And the plan for Roxtan for months

1104
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,720
now because Julia was supposed to come into NXC earlier,

1105
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:33,800
but you got injured in Marigold, so the plans are

1106
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,800
sort of pushed back. But even the rumor since then

1107
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,000
is whenever Roxanne loses that title, she's getting called up.

1108
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I could also see Corey Jay coming up I

1109
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,239
honestly feel like NXT has a strong batch of women

1110
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,479
that you could pick three or four out of them

1111
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,640
and bring them up and they would all do amazing

1112
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,439
out of the gate.

1113
01:09:57,279 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing with NXT two is you have

1114
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,159
I do and called up, but then you also have

1115
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:04,640
a lot of great women who aren't really being used

1116
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,039
right now that with those call ups, could easily fill

1117
01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:13,640
that space in NFD as compared to the men's singles division,

1118
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,479
where there really aren't many people you could take out

1119
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,880
and have it be competence without having like Ridge Hall

1120
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,880
and made event every show. I think there's a lot

1121
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,159
of women in NXC I could be called up and

1122
01:10:26,279 --> 01:10:30,199
already have people to take like Thea Hale is a

1123
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,800
great wrestler and she hasn't wrestled the match in like

1124
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:36,840
three months, because there's all these top stars that are

1125
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,359
like running everything.

1126
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,239
Speaker 1: And like I saw a bit of think your name

1127
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:47,199
is Karmen Petrovic and she had a good presentation, and

1128
01:10:47,239 --> 01:10:50,960
I'm like, Okay, I could definitely see her being a

1129
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:54,039
spotlight person with like.

1130
01:10:54,039 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: The future NXC women's main eventers are like Karmen Petrovic,

1131
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:04,279
little of Ice, Jada Parker, Oh you got to.

1132
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: Keep Lola there just for those uh those shoot fights

1133
01:11:08,079 --> 01:11:11,079
that she does, those five pits sound ones. She's been

1134
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,520
those I have seen and I've I've been very impressed

1135
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,000
with those.

1136
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: Those have been fun. They always all of them have

1137
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,319
like something something different in them, like she had h

1138
01:11:23,039 --> 01:11:25,680
I think I remember the Natalia one being good because yeah,

1139
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,039
that one was like all submissions and like the sharp Shooter,

1140
01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:32,239
like putting her into the Sharp Shooter like a ton

1141
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:35,720
of times. The Shana one was like, I think the

1142
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,479
Shana one was the most like like shoot fight type one.

1143
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,920
I think maybe they they went on to the table

1144
01:11:43,079 --> 01:11:47,479
like a once or twice. And yeah, the one with

1145
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,119
Jada Parker was was fun also because that one was

1146
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:54,039
also more like just like she was Lolavice was doing

1147
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:56,640
the MMA stuff and then Jada Parker was just doing

1148
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,000
normal wrestling stuff like she was just superlexing your body

1149
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,479
slams and like using the table and the steps and stuff.

1150
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,479
But yeah, that's a fun match type and it's cool

1151
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,079
that she has like her own match like that. She

1152
01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:14,159
even main event like one of the I think spring

1153
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:17,439
Break spring Breaking Night one, like the main event was

1154
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,560
the underground match.

1155
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have a lot of opportunities for call ups.

1156
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,319
I'm interested to see how things change as a result

1157
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,000
of this. But luckily can they have a deep roster

1158
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,039
on all sides of it. So there's gonna be a

1159
01:12:37,079 --> 01:12:40,319
good shake up, and I'm excited to see where they

1160
01:12:40,359 --> 01:12:45,399
go with this shakeup. Speaking of a full roster, let's

1161
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,039
get into some pay per view reviews. So let's start

1162
01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:55,600
off first with aw full gear. And the reason I

1163
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,279
say loaded roster is because counting the pre show, this

1164
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:07,800
had twelve matches twelve, and they weren't all singles matches

1165
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,640
like there was a fatal There was two four way matches.

1166
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,640
One one was a four way tag team match, the

1167
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,600
other one was a four way singles match. But man

1168
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:20,840
twelve matches. Now, granted three of those were pre show matches,

1169
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:26,159
but still twelve is a lot. And they also weren't

1170
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:30,600
short matches either. I mean, the average length of the

1171
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,479
matches on the main show was I believe over fifteen

1172
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,279
minutes a piece. Most of them were in the eighteen

1173
01:13:37,319 --> 01:13:39,600
to nineteen range, with a couple of them being in

1174
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,000
the thirteen minute range. Those that makes for a long,

1175
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:51,560
long night, a long long night. Yeah, So let me

1176
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,640
just run down the car real quick. On the pre show,

1177
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:59,359
we had an A J defeat Diana Pirazzo via pinfall.

1178
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:04,079
Speaker 2: We had Buddy matt start for her faction there with the.

1179
01:14:07,119 --> 01:14:12,199
Speaker 1: We had Buddy Matthews with an amazing showing defeating Dante Martin,

1180
01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:16,359
Commander and the Beast Marts in a fatal four way match.

1181
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,039
I thought that was a good showing for Buddy Matthews.

1182
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,680
And then the highlight of the pre show, the most

1183
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,760
talked about pre show match was Big Boom Aj of

1184
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,159
the Cosco Boys accompanied by a Big Justice and the

1185
01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:37,239
wrestler as timekeeper versus a Q Team Marshall, which we

1186
01:14:37,279 --> 01:14:39,159
all knew how this was going to end. You're bringing

1187
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:42,159
in a celebrity guest all this and against someone like

1188
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:46,039
QT Marshall. You you knew how this was gonna go.

1189
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it ended up being I thought a really

1190
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,359
fun match. I like this match. I've even rewatched it.

1191
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,239
I even rewatched it once. Then, I think for what

1192
01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:02,199
it was, and it ended up going over really well

1193
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,880
with the crowd, and I think it was a good

1194
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,439
moment for aw and a fun moment. I think it

1195
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,000
was even I think people were saying this pay per

1196
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:15,640
view might have had the first first show where the

1197
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,680
first match on the actual card were just a cool

1198
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,840
down from the crew show.

1199
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah as we wish. So we started off with

1200
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,399
the fatal four tag team match for the ae W

1201
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,039
Tag Team Champions, with half the teams getting well actually

1202
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,560
three fourths of the teams getting pre show entrances. Now,

1203
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,600
I'm used to the pre show entrances on Dynamite and

1204
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,039
on Rampage where they'll tweet out, hey, watch the entrances

1205
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:50,079
here so that they can maximize the show length. You

1206
01:15:50,119 --> 01:15:52,159
didn't have to maximize the show length here, So I

1207
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,600
don't know why you did the entrances as part of

1208
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,199
the pre show.

1209
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:59,520
Speaker 2: They did at all in too, for the same for

1210
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,119
the Tree this match, the entrances started on the pre show.

1211
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:06,439
I guess in theory, it's just like, look, maybe people

1212
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,359
who haven't bought the show yet, in theory would see

1213
01:16:10,359 --> 01:16:12,520
these cool entrances and be like, oh, I want to

1214
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,439
watch this match now. But also, I do not think

1215
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,439
any of this help. I think people, especially with AW,

1216
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,680
I don't think like, if you're just the YouTube watcher

1217
01:16:22,119 --> 01:16:24,039
and you see the school entrances, I don't think you're

1218
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:28,039
spending whatever amount of money it is to watch the show.

1219
01:16:28,319 --> 01:16:33,039
Speaker 1: And not for the opening matches either. So Private Party,

1220
01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:38,079
the Outrunners, Kings, the blackthrow On, and the Acclaimed none

1221
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:40,279
of this. If I'm a casual viewer who is watching

1222
01:16:40,319 --> 01:16:42,760
the pre show, is gonna be like, oh yeah, that

1223
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,840
match is happening. You know what, I am going to

1224
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,000
buy it. If you're going to do that, you need

1225
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:54,279
to start off with a big no name Now Private

1226
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:59,159
Party winning. I think that was something that was pretty

1227
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,359
set up. They were going to continue from what they

1228
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:05,000
did off of the Young Bucks. I didn't think it

1229
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:06,920
was the right time to drop it now. But for

1230
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,680
the most part, yeah, they they had the type of

1231
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,680
match that I thought that they would have. Nothing, nothing special,

1232
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,439
in my opinion, it was just a good, solid match.

1233
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. It was definitely just the building the

1234
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,199
acclaimed storyline as well.

1235
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:30,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and then MJF defeated roder Strong by submission

1236
01:17:31,079 --> 01:17:34,840
and we knew what this was going to be. There

1237
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,840
was no chance Roddy Strong was beaten MJF. The postmatch

1238
01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:46,319
beat down stuff and then the Kingdom being mad at

1239
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,119
excuse me, the Kingdom being mad that Roddy didn't get

1240
01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:57,079
saved in time. That's something about that seemed a little

1241
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:02,840
bit off to me, Like ya rush out, Adam Coley,

1242
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,359
y'all didn't do anything.

1243
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 2: In wrestling logic. I feel like everyone like you're you're

1244
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,319
legally not allowed to do a run in until the

1245
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:13,920
person is already being beaten down.

1246
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like in my headcanon, it is they are back

1247
01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:23,960
there in Gorilla telling somebody to cue their music. That's

1248
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,279
what's taking them so long to get the guys sitting

1249
01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:30,399
there searching the files to get your tron set up

1250
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,800
and everything else. And until that's ready, then you can

1251
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,159
run out. Because I'm like, you're that.

1252
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,279
Speaker 2: All these wrestlers have a little microchips in them that

1253
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,880
activate when they go through the entrance way to text

1254
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,359
them and then it plays their music automatically as they

1255
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:48,880
run out.

1256
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Mercedes Money versus Chris Statlander, this was a

1257
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:02,720
surprisingly good match. It was for the TBS Championship. Money's

1258
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,079
TVs Championship. Mercedes Money has been hit or missed with

1259
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:10,840
me in aw and as a champion, and I think

1260
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,560
this was a very very good showing for her, and

1261
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,680
it was a very good showing for Chris stat Lander.

1262
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,600
They both gave it. They're all Mercedes look like the

1263
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,640
Sasha Banks of old, which is what I've been waiting for.

1264
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,159
I still think she struggles with promos, but this one

1265
01:19:28,279 --> 01:19:32,439
was really some strong n ring work by both of them,

1266
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,159
which made Mercedes feel more credible as champion.

1267
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. I think having her against sat Lander

1268
01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:44,439
is a really good base for a lot of the

1269
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,560
moves and stuff, especially the size difference. I think that

1270
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,439
helps her a lot, Like there's just more moves she

1271
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,760
can do on Statlander than someone else who's of the

1272
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:55,720
same size.

1273
01:19:56,119 --> 01:20:03,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. Jay White defeated hang Man Adam Page. I went

1274
01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:06,680
back and forth about my feelings on this match. I

1275
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,680
originally going into it had Hangman winning just to continue

1276
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,319
like his story in the way that they were really

1277
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:17,640
pushing that Jay White has had his number on so

1278
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,960
many occasions, has beat him five times in singles matches,

1279
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,399
all this other stuff. I'm like, Okay, they're really set

1280
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,520
me up to think that Hangman's going to do it

1281
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,640
this time. And Jay White wins and I was just like, oh,

1282
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,039
that was not a result I saw happening. But does

1283
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:39,279
kind of in retrospect help with Hangman's intimateness.

1284
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, especially now with the story that

1285
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:50,119
we're seeing into world's end. It's also an interesting wrinkle

1286
01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:54,640
there if they really want to team up against the Mocks,

1287
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,039
or if there might be more issues between them.

1288
01:20:58,359 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle Fletcher and will Ospray and will Ospray with

1289
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,720
the amazing interest. Will Ospray kills it with these pay

1290
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,079
per view entrances, and I was totally here for this

1291
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:11,880
punisher fail.

1292
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think, and he's used it, I think

1293
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,800
a couple more times since then. I believe. Yeah, that's

1294
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,159
a cool design. I like it a lot.

1295
01:21:21,279 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: But Kyle Fletcher getting the win. Will Osprey has not

1296
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,039
shied away from giving others their shine and giving others

1297
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,680
their wins, so I think that's been good. Kyle Fletcher

1298
01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:38,239
looked great. It continues this will Ospray versus Doan Kallis

1299
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:44,279
storyline thing, and I said, they put on, probably from

1300
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,960
a peer wrestling standpoint, my favorite match of the night.

1301
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:55,000
I love will Ospray. He is in my top two

1302
01:21:55,159 --> 01:21:58,520
of current active wrestlers. But I thought this was a

1303
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,399
great match. I thought they did right with the booking

1304
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,800
of this, and for it being a twenty four minute match,

1305
01:22:07,039 --> 01:22:10,399
it did not feel like it. I was all for this.

1306
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's your other person in here, tomthing.

1307
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: Oh in my top two currently outside of Will Osprey,

1308
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:26,119
I would say that if I'm just going off of

1309
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,960
the wrestling aspect of it, he technically is a current wrestler.

1310
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,560
I would still say Kenny Omega is my favorite, even

1311
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,600
though he is out with injury. But he will be

1312
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:42,159
back in less than a month, so I'm waiting to

1313
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,039
see full on Kenny. I want full Kenny to just

1314
01:22:47,079 --> 01:22:49,199
show up and show out. I think he is just

1315
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,159
absolutely amazing. He can do the high flying, he can

1316
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:56,640
do the flips, but he also just his whole presentation,

1317
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,079
his facial expressions, everything he does in an makes Kenny

1318
01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:03,439
my favorite active wrestler right now.

1319
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. I assume that's who it would be,

1320
01:23:07,159 --> 01:23:09,119
but I wasn't judged to know if she had some

1321
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:11,439
other wrestler that you just really like.

1322
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: I love you Solo. That that's my number one.

1323
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:21,279
Speaker 2: My photo here of of Julia I love you Solo.

1324
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:28,199
Speaker 1: So next up, Daniel Garcia defeating Jack Perry to take

1325
01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:32,960
on the AWT and T Championship. It was the right

1326
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,199
time if you weren't going to do it. With Danny

1327
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:40,640
Garcia winning it, wasn't going to happen like he needed

1328
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,720
this right now. Jack Perry can continue on with his

1329
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,359
character without the championship. But I think if Daniel Garcia

1330
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,119
took another loss right now and continued to lose in

1331
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,640
these big matches, I think that it would have hurt

1332
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,560
him way too much. He needed this win right now.

1333
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I think Darren this year definitely needed it.

1334
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,239
And I think Jack Perry definitely needed to lose this

1335
01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:10,680
title because I don't think this reign really did much

1336
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:11,239
for him.

1337
01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: No, you can have your scapegoat character. You don't need

1338
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,800
the title for that. The win itself when he won

1339
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,520
the title, like, I got it in that moment and

1340
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,560
what they were trying to do with the New Elite

1341
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,640
and everything else, but he he hasn't done anything. Yeah,

1342
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,239
it's it's been inconsequential to him as a character going forward,

1343
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:36,800
So he didn't really need it. Follow up with another

1344
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:42,199
championship match, which was the aw International Championship Knuscid t

1345
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:51,119
Keusta defeating Rickochet. I liked Takeusta. I love Rickochet, so

1346
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,399
I didn't really know who was going to win this one.

1347
01:24:55,319 --> 01:24:57,680
I also went back and forth on do you have

1348
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:02,479
Ricochet take a loss this but I don't think that

1349
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,319
this loss did a disservice to him. I think him

1350
01:25:05,399 --> 01:25:08,920
and Takesha put on just such an incredible match that

1351
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:13,159
coming out of it, he still looked like Ricochet and

1352
01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:17,199
you still felt like, all right, he is a contender.

1353
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think now looking back, especially if they're

1354
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:26,800
turning him heel and sort of he lost, so now

1355
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,399
he needs another way to get these opportunities. I think

1356
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:32,760
it adds that story as well, and which is fine

1357
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,960
with him losing, especially if you're building Takeshta. It should

1358
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,840
be okay for him to beat someone who's on his level,

1359
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:44,399
so you can't just have him defend the title against

1360
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,520
people who are below him. That wouldn't help him at all.

1361
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,439
So him beat Ricochet thought was a good decision. I

1362
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,479
see some people didn't really like this match, even people

1363
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,079
are fans of Takesha and Ricochet, and I do sort

1364
01:25:58,119 --> 01:26:01,039
of agree with Like, I think it was Ricochet trying

1365
01:26:01,039 --> 01:26:04,560
to show that he wasn't just the flippy guy, but

1366
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,159
at the same time, everyone just wants to see the

1367
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:08,840
flippy guy.

1368
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had Bobby Lashley defeating Swerve Strickland by technical submission.

1369
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:23,560
So I'm I'll be honest, I'm not that much of

1370
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,199
a fan of Bobby Lashley in his group with MVP

1371
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,840
and Shelton Benjamin. He's my third favorite member of that group.

1372
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,920
So and I loved the work of Swerve Strickland. But

1373
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,600
I get it, Bobby's the new big guy, so you

1374
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,520
got to give him the win. But this match just

1375
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,680
really didn't do much for me.

1376
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have a huge expectations for it or anything.

1377
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,000
I liked the story of it, and yeah, lastly definitely

1378
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,520
needed the win. I do like lash I wouldn't say

1379
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,239
I'm like a huge fan, but I definitely do like him,

1380
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,239
and I'm just interested, especially with this whole hurt stendicit

1381
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,079
story going forward and who what other members could possibly

1382
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:16,960
be added, Like I was just talking about Ricochet, and

1383
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,600
I think it's an interesting angle, even if it is

1384
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,520
like another group sort of taking over sort of not really,

1385
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:32,960
but yeah.

1386
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: And then finally John Moxleygue Champion defeating Orange Chassidy. Again,

1387
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,159
I did not have Orange Cassidy winning this at all.

1388
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:46,199
So it was a good match. Weird, weird indanc to

1389
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:51,960
the match in my opinion, like, but it was an

1390
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,520
expected outcome.

1391
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say the sort of weird thing about this one,

1392
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,960
and it doesn't really have to do with John Locks

1393
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,800
or Orange Cassie. It's sort of like the whole conglomeration thing.

1394
01:28:05,359 --> 01:28:07,600
You'd think there would be there to help them against

1395
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,880
these guys, and they sort of do come out at

1396
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,920
the end. But then the one weird thing is you

1397
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:17,000
have Willow attack Marina Shaffir, which something people have been

1398
01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:19,439
saying is like, well, you need a woman here to

1399
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:24,359
fight her, and then after that attack, nothing ever happened

1400
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,680
for that, like they I don't think they'd be interacted

1401
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,840
at all, Willow and Shaffir. So that was a bit

1402
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:37,479
weird there. But besides that, I did like the match. Obviously,

1403
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,760
Orange is a good baby face there to take out

1404
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,359
this heel John Moxley, so good pick there, and you know,

1405
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,680
had all the classic stuff. You had some crowd brawling there,

1406
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,760
and you had that great nails spot that I saw

1407
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:57,319
people talk about just like graphic imagery there. And but

1408
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,039
I thought it was a fun match. I mean, I

1409
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:02,760
like that. I wouldn't say I've been like a massive

1410
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,600
massive fan of the Moxley title reign in this whole storyline,

1411
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:13,000
but it wasn't bad. It wasn't like offensive in any way,

1412
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:16,840
I don't think, and it obviously made sense for Orange

1413
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:24,159
to be a challenger there. So yeah, oh you're muted it.

1414
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:29,199
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's it served its its purpose. It

1415
01:29:29,359 --> 01:29:32,840
just it wasn't a wow match, and it just seemed

1416
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:38,640
like I did not see a situation where Orange walked

1417
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:43,399
away as the champion. And I like Orange Chassis, but

1418
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,840
I don't see them ever making him a legitimate world champion.

1419
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,840
Mid card yes, world no, and so in this it

1420
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,479
just seemed like, Okay, he's there to fight for aew

1421
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,960
but I don't see a situation where he takes home

1422
01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:03,359
the belt, not right now.

1423
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1424
01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 1: So the other big pay per view that we had

1425
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:17,159
coming out of that was a Survivor series Wargames, the

1426
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:23,079
Big Bloodline pay per view. They were the center point.

1427
01:30:23,279 --> 01:30:28,479
So unlike our last pay perview, which had twelve matches,

1428
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:33,600
this one had five, which I think WW has been

1429
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,319
doing a good job with just here's what we have

1430
01:30:39,359 --> 01:30:42,720
as a focal point, here's what we're throwing in, and

1431
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,600
we're not rushing to get everybody on the card. Now.

1432
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,560
I don't know how much of that has to do

1433
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,119
with the fact that they're now mainly streaming for their

1434
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:55,520
pl so it's not like the old days where you

1435
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,039
got the DVD residuals or they're not rushing to get

1436
01:30:59,399 --> 01:31:02,279
everyone on the card, so everyone gets this pay per

1437
01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:06,800
view payday or whatnot. But it was a five match card.

1438
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,920
You started off with the women's war Games with Rhea, Ripley,

1439
01:31:11,039 --> 01:31:15,359
Bianca b La, Naomi Eosky, and Bailey deviating the Judgment

1440
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:20,640
Days Lived Morgan calrod riuz Nia, Jack's, Tiffany Stratus, and

1441
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:27,319
Candice Lay. I thought that the women did pretty good

1442
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,840
in this match. Eo Sky, of course, is an MVP

1443
01:31:33,359 --> 01:31:38,119
of the style matches with her high flying athletics. The

1444
01:31:38,199 --> 01:31:44,159
trash can spot is always fun. Tiffany Shratt with the briefcase,

1445
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,920
and in that moment you didn't know who she was

1446
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,960
going to cash in on because there's technically two champions

1447
01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:58,680
in that match, So I think that they had some

1448
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:06,279
good spots. I was shocked when Rhea came in and

1449
01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:11,439
she didn't just decimate everyone out the gate, but in retrospect, okay,

1450
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,439
she's such a threat they all had to team up

1451
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,600
on her coming in.

1452
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like this match, probably more than most people did,

1453
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,560
I think, and but I do agree that. I think

1454
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,800
when it was sort of that time those i'd say

1455
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,039
twenty minutes or so where everyone's coming in, I think

1456
01:32:32,079 --> 01:32:36,079
it was a little slow. But once everyone was in,

1457
01:32:36,199 --> 01:32:38,960
I really liked that. But even and I really liked

1458
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,800
everything onward from that point, But even in that time

1459
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,039
when people were just coming in, I thought some of

1460
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:48,399
those interactions, like EO and Tiffany having like a little

1461
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,920
base off there and doing their moves was really good.

1462
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:54,119
And was they built when they both do their moves

1463
01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:58,239
off the cage, that was really awesome. And yeah, I

1464
01:32:58,279 --> 01:33:03,640
think made sense the finish with the reopenning live obviously

1465
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:08,479
setting up a title shot there. And yeah, I liked

1466
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,720
a good showcase of all these women who had these storylines,

1467
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,880
and you and Candice Larey getting on this show was cool.

1468
01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:20,119
Speaker 1: And the I mean you gotta have the speed Champion.

1469
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, technically there's another person that Tiffany could

1470
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,880
have cashed in on their you know.

1471
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,279
Speaker 1: What, I didn't even think about that, but you're absolutely right. Hey,

1472
01:33:30,319 --> 01:33:33,119
it's a perfect time to have an impromptu speed Championship match.

1473
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 2: You could have had a Speed Championship match in between

1474
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,479
the Interworlds was only going in.

1475
01:33:41,279 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, we got three minutes waiting on

1476
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,680
someone to come in. We're gonna have a quick speed

1477
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,439
championship match. I think that's something that they would have

1478
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,640
done back in the day with the twenty four to

1479
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,319
seven Championship if you had had someone in the cage.

1480
01:33:55,359 --> 01:33:58,159
I could see one of their partners turning around pinning

1481
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:01,680
them real quick to win the twenty four seven Championship

1482
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,760
in the middle of that match. So next up, we

1483
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,760
had La Knight defending his United States Championship against Shinsky

1484
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,520
Nakamora and Shinsky winning it. They took the belt off

1485
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,720
of the La Night gave it to Shinsky and his

1486
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,880
new darker character, and I mean from Shinsk's entrance to

1487
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,319
the match itself, I'm loving this presentation of Shinsky Nakamora

1488
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:27,800
right now.

1489
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've been talking earlier this whole show about

1490
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,199
people needing a win to establish them, and this was

1491
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:37,720
definitely one of those cases, like you can't do all

1492
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:42,680
that presentation and just have them lose, like we just

1493
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,520
want to work. And yeah, I think it was sort

1494
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,880
of like an unexpected pick like win. But then once

1495
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,239
it happened. It's like, Okay, obviously this needed to happen,

1496
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,079
but yeah, it was cool. I think I like that

1497
01:34:57,079 --> 01:35:02,359
Shinsky won clean technically, even if he was using sort

1498
01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:06,439
of dirty tactics, but he didn't like low blow him

1499
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:07,199
for example.

1500
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like he said, Schinsky needed this. I mean,

1501
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:18,520
everyone knows that Shinsky isn't concerned in reality about wins

1502
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,760
and losses. He's out here having fun, he's putting on

1503
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,399
his matches, he's doing what he needs to do. But

1504
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,680
I think from a character standpoint and from a somebody

1505
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,960
to be taken seriously as a competitor standpoint, he needed

1506
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,640
this win. He got the win. His presentation, his new

1507
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,199
presentation has been just amazing.

1508
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,399
Speaker 2: Aweso and it's gotten even better, like from SmackDown to

1509
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,239
the next show to Survivor Series, like and you can

1510
01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:43,840
see they've been taking like that first it was like

1511
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:47,239
he had the because even the SmackDown entrance the night

1512
01:35:47,279 --> 01:35:50,239
before was actually taped, so they had about a week

1513
01:35:50,359 --> 01:35:54,359
between that first presentation and Survivor Series to make some changes.

1514
01:35:54,399 --> 01:35:57,239
Because if you go to that SmackDown, the theme is

1515
01:35:57,359 --> 01:35:59,640
it's it's similar in that style where it's using the

1516
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,800
more like classic instruments like the flutes and stuff, the

1517
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,880
plays theme, but it wasn't as different as the version

1518
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,680
is now. It was sort of just like a cover

1519
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,079
of his normal theme, just like on different instruments. But

1520
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:15,720
then at Survivor series it was very much the darker

1521
01:36:16,039 --> 01:36:21,119
version with the blood moon, which I really like, and

1522
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:24,279
even his entrance I think when he won the title,

1523
01:36:24,359 --> 01:36:27,199
like the next week now, they've even timed it so

1524
01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:30,199
the moon rises behind him as he walks to the ring,

1525
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,079
so when he starts out, it's fully behind him and

1526
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:35,800
then it rises so you always see the blood moon

1527
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,680
behind him as he walks the ring. So just an

1528
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,560
awesome presentation there. And Triple H even uploaded that video

1529
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:47,119
of them working out the entrance and the lightning and stuff,

1530
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:49,920
which I thought was a cool behind the scenes the

1531
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,960
look there of just how they plan all this stuff out.

1532
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I've been liking his insurances and

1533
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,319
it's had to see where he's going next. Up, we

1534
01:37:03,359 --> 01:37:06,840
had triple threat match for an Intercontinent Championship bron Breakers,

1535
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:10,119
Seamus and Ludwick Kaiser. Like said earlier, Seamus has been

1536
01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:12,279
putting on a show. Ron Breaker has been putting on

1537
01:37:12,319 --> 01:37:15,600
a show. And I think that uh Ludwick Kaiser looked

1538
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,800
super strong in this match. He looked like a competitor

1539
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,760
that could keep up. He did not look like the

1540
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,359
guy who was just thrown in to eat the pin.

1541
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:28,439
They all had a chance to shine and look great

1542
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,239
and just have that hard hitting match, and I think

1543
01:37:32,279 --> 01:37:35,039
that this was an excellent showing for all of them.

1544
01:37:35,359 --> 01:37:38,520
I was not surprised by bron Breaker walking away with

1545
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,680
the win and keeping his championship just a little bit longer.

1546
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:46,800
So it was a good, solid match. Nothing that is

1547
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,600
going to be like, oh, this was the match of

1548
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,920
the night contender, but it's also something that you walked

1549
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,119
away thinking all three of these men were strong competitors. No.

1550
01:37:55,279 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, Kaiser was absolutely had a spot

1551
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,680
in there. It wasn't just let's put him in there,

1552
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,640
like he had a story reason and just like a

1553
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,079
work great reason to go in there. And he's great

1554
01:38:06,119 --> 01:38:09,279
also another person who's been having just like a great

1555
01:38:09,359 --> 01:38:13,079
year just having great matches. Uh, And yeah, I thought

1556
01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:15,319
it was really fine. I love all three of these

1557
01:38:15,319 --> 01:38:18,800
guys really and like any combination of them is gonna

1558
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,920
be a great match. And I'm a big triple Threat

1559
01:38:22,079 --> 01:38:24,600
Triple Threat fan, So that was another one for me.

1560
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,319
And yeah, love the finish with the Kaiser getting speired

1561
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,319
so hard he went out of the ring and then

1562
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:35,279
Bron hits the second spear on Seamus for the wine,

1563
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:37,399
so yeah, and I mean he didn't even Kaiser didn't

1564
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:42,000
even take the pin in this situation. So definitely building

1565
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:45,000
him up. And I do think at some point, especially

1566
01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:49,119
if my theory of Seamus winning the Icy title, I

1567
01:38:49,159 --> 01:38:51,680
think they will have more matches and I think within

1568
01:38:52,319 --> 01:38:55,479
a year you could see Kaiser as the Intercontinental champion.

1569
01:38:56,119 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would love to see a version of Imperium

1570
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,039
War Lu Kaiser standing next to Gunther and they're both

1571
01:39:03,239 --> 01:39:06,359
standing there with their championships. I think for their their entrance,

1572
01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:09,439
their presentation that that would look really cool for both

1573
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,159
of those competitors.

1574
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also like the story they've been telling

1575
01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:17,760
with Gunther and Kaiser, Like it's not one of those

1576
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:21,399
where another member in the team is having more success

1577
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,000
and they're jealous. Like I think in story, Gunther and

1578
01:39:25,079 --> 01:39:29,800
Kaiser really do want the other to improve and win titles,

1579
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,319
and I don't think there's any even if they might

1580
01:39:32,319 --> 01:39:34,239
be doing their own thing. I don't think there's really

1581
01:39:34,279 --> 01:39:37,880
any splits happening soon. I don't think.

1582
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of Gunther, he snatched up defeating Damian Priest

1583
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:50,359
for to continue his reign as world heavyweight champion. Gunther

1584
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,520
is Gunther like, my man is killing it. He's doing

1585
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:59,039
a great job. This was an absolute just slapper. They

1586
01:39:59,039 --> 01:40:03,279
were going back and forth with it. I am hoping though,

1587
01:40:03,319 --> 01:40:06,840
that this is the last ride of the Gunther versus

1588
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:12,279
Damien Priest for a while. Gunther gets his confidence back

1589
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,720
after this, you know, they can roll out from there.

1590
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,560
But I think that the Gunther Damien Priest has been

1591
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:24,079
done a little bit too heavy right now. That let's

1592
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:27,319
let's let it cool off, let them go face some

1593
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:29,439
other people, and then if you want to come back

1594
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,319
to that, because Damien Priest is such a strong competitor,

1595
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,239
then go ahead. But I think this is a good

1596
01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:40,239
all right, Let's let's just end this now and Gunther

1597
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:44,640
versus uh Damien Priest and the judgment day like, that's

1598
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,680
that's not something you see like, hey, you you interfered

1599
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,039
with my match. I'm mad at you too. Yeah, you

1600
01:40:50,119 --> 01:40:51,720
helped me, but I got this.

1601
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Gunther is just a very unique character in the

1602
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,920
in the world of wrestling, where he's a heel, but

1603
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,680
he's just so good at what he does that he

1604
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:06,039
doesn't want to win dirty in anyway. And h yeah.

1605
01:41:06,079 --> 01:41:09,119
Obviously that built up to the Triple Threat from uh

1606
01:41:09,319 --> 01:41:11,399
last night, which was also a great match, and yeah,

1607
01:41:11,399 --> 01:41:15,000
I liked, like I said, also a huge Damien Priest fan,

1608
01:41:15,159 --> 01:41:17,079
and so yeah, I like this match. A lot of

1609
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,079
limb work there with the with the arms, I think

1610
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:24,640
it was in that match, and uh yeah good. Uh

1611
01:41:25,159 --> 01:41:29,600
another good GUNTHERR match, Like you're really not gonna have

1612
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,520
a bad GUNTHERER match, especially if it has time and

1613
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:33,560
is on a PLA.

1614
01:41:34,279 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're finish it off with the highlight

1615
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:42,560
of it all the men's working match, and it was

1616
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:48,279
the the New Bloodline Sola Sicoa, Jacobat, Tomatunga and Tongala

1617
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:55,840
accompanied by Bronson Reed versus Roman Reigns, Jimmy and j Usso, Uh, Sammy, Uso,

1618
01:41:56,319 --> 01:41:59,159
Samy Saying and c im Punk.

1619
01:41:59,840 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1620
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: This match actually exceeded my expectations for what they did,

1621
01:42:07,079 --> 01:42:09,560
even though you know, in the wash of it all,

1622
01:42:10,119 --> 01:42:14,000
we lost a member of both sides of this to injury,

1623
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,399
but I think everyone in here did an amazing job.

1624
01:42:19,359 --> 01:42:22,720
Jimmy start or I'm sorry, Jay was so starting the

1625
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,239
match so that he could do his entrance straight to

1626
01:42:26,279 --> 01:42:29,000
the ring like I was here for them. I'm like,

1627
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,960
all right, it was you assume Roman would be out

1628
01:42:34,119 --> 01:42:37,199
last just because he has the long drawn out entrance,

1629
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:42,560
but giving Jay his main event, jay uso crowd insurance,

1630
01:42:43,399 --> 01:42:47,439
I think was a nice way to kick things off.

1631
01:42:48,279 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: So I think that's one of those entrances where you

1632
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,760
want to have. It just gets the crowd into it

1633
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,159
and excited, so it makes sense.

1634
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen the video of seeing Punk and

1635
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,760
Jimmy in the cage during the entrance when.

1636
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 2: They are just I saw a little bit of the.

1637
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,119
Speaker 1: Everyone is about saying Roman's in the back. He's trying

1638
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:14,159
to keep a straight face, but you could tell he's

1639
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:17,800
not in his head too, like everyone is just into

1640
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,640
this entrance. Seeing Punk apparently went a little bit off

1641
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,520
scrape with his uh push to it. But I thought that, hey,

1642
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,800
that was a great touch, and that wasn't Punk being

1643
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,800
unprofessional to me, that was Punk being so much of

1644
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,520
a professional when it comes to wrestling that he knew

1645
01:43:36,039 --> 01:43:38,359
this little thing would add to the story.

1646
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,039
Speaker 2: So it was. It was a great moment because you

1647
01:43:41,199 --> 01:43:43,840
just weren't expecting it, Like you're seeing him make his

1648
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:47,479
entrance and then he goes over and hits them. It

1649
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:47,920
was good.

1650
01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of good storyline work with

1651
01:43:52,039 --> 01:43:57,640
the Bloodline and oh Man, first, uh, Roman keeping Punk

1652
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,880
from going out that scene of him hand in front

1653
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,119
of the cage that has been screenshot it so many times,

1654
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,600
and then the reverse of it when Roman wants to

1655
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,399
go out, Punk shoulder checking him. He is like, nah,

1656
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:15,119
I got this. Those little bills, the planning, the seas

1657
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:17,399
that Okay, they're not going to be able to get along.

1658
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,760
So because they're not going to be get able to

1659
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,239
get along, they're going to lose against the new Bloodline.

1660
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,199
And then Punk saving Roman and then them kind of

1661
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:30,479
having that moment of all right, we can do this together,

1662
01:44:31,399 --> 01:44:36,560
which just overall great match. I'm sad to see Bronson

1663
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:40,600
Reid go down to injury. I've free watched that spot

1664
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,840
a couple of times. When the spot first happened, I

1665
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,159
thought that did not look good. But rewatching it and

1666
01:44:46,199 --> 01:44:49,359
seeing his ankles, I feel for the guy and I'm

1667
01:44:49,359 --> 01:44:51,920
hoping for speedy recovery for Bronson because he was on

1668
01:44:52,079 --> 01:44:54,319
such a hot track right now.

1669
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,319
Speaker 2: I think he already has gotten surgery, so hopefully all

1670
01:45:00,399 --> 01:45:01,920
goes well for him and he's back.

1671
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: He'll be out past, he'll be out past WrestleMania, but

1672
01:45:06,319 --> 01:45:08,079
hopefully he takes.

1673
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: His that'll be a great return. They're hitting a surprise

1674
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,920
tsunami on someone that set up a big match.

1675
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:20,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jacob Atu was selling his injury. He was

1676
01:45:20,119 --> 01:45:22,359
actually the one not injured, but the one who looked

1677
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,600
the most injured, because I was like, oh, man, not

1678
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,279
his leg again. The way that he sold some of

1679
01:45:29,319 --> 01:45:31,760
those was just great. And then again the.

1680
01:45:32,079 --> 01:45:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the whole thing was like he

1681
01:45:34,359 --> 01:45:36,920
was supposed to hit the moon Slalt I think on

1682
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,920
on Punk and then that was just a genuine botch.

1683
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:44,439
But then he completely just went into selling the leg,

1684
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,359
so no one even noticed the botch and just was like, oh,

1685
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,199
they actually get hurt there, but.

1686
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Sold for the rest of the match made it what

1687
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:58,279
it was. It was just great work and uh the

1688
01:46:00,039 --> 01:46:04,479
say the good guys get the win and the moment

1689
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,039
what see him Punk and Paul Hayman reminding him of

1690
01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:13,479
the favor like the story build up of that. I'm

1691
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,920
just like, yes, let's keep going with this. I want

1692
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,880
to know what the favor is. I want to know

1693
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,640
where we're going with this. I want to know what

1694
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,159
Punk's involvement is. I think it was just such good

1695
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:27,319
storytelling in the match and then after the match.

1696
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:31,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we haven't really mentioned the favorite at

1697
01:46:31,239 --> 01:46:34,960
all in these WrestleMania plans. But what do you think

1698
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:39,119
it is specifically? I mean my thinking of Paul Hamon

1699
01:46:39,279 --> 01:46:41,760
getting in that WrestleMania main event.

1700
01:46:42,079 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 1: But then yeah, exactly, And I think they're going to

1701
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,239
be vocal with it because everyone knows that that was

1702
01:46:48,279 --> 01:46:50,279
a big deal for Punk. I mean, he said it

1703
01:46:50,319 --> 01:46:53,720
in the interview, in the Cabana interview, he said it

1704
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,800
in other things like that was a dream of his

1705
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,640
and he was pissed when it was taken away. So yeah,

1706
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,399
I could see that being a linchpin of I told

1707
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,119
you guys, I wanted to main event WrestleMania. I had

1708
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:08,359
the injury last year when I should have made invented

1709
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:12,039
Night one in WrestleMania, and yet you put you know,

1710
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:14,920
Roman and Cody in two different nights of it, Like

1711
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,720
if this leads to him versus Cody. I could see

1712
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:22,079
that because hey, you got to May event two different

1713
01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:26,520
nights last year. Well, I was sitting on injury like

1714
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:29,760
that would be the favor. You know, the wise man

1715
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,159
pulled the strings and got me my match that I

1716
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:38,479
am so deserved. So yeah, I think that's going to

1717
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:39,119
be the favor.

1718
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1719
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:49,039
Speaker 1: So but in that Survivor series, great showing. Again, only

1720
01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:54,199
the five matches, but they maximize those matches, which they

1721
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:57,560
they've been doing a lot of. Not too many Shenanikins,

1722
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,880
just straight up good matches and a good showing for

1723
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:06,000
your mid car championships. I did think it was odd

1724
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,479
at the time not to for this being one of

1725
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,720
the original Big four pay per views to not have

1726
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:16,479
Cody anywhere on it, but knowing that he was getting

1727
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:20,520
saved for Saturday night's main event. But they still made

1728
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,560
the most of it. So yeah, it was good.

1729
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:26,279
Speaker 2: All right.

1730
01:48:27,079 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 1: Uh speaking of pay per reviews, we got coming up

1731
01:48:30,359 --> 01:48:36,840
a w World's End, so there are World's in paper view.

1732
01:48:38,039 --> 01:48:42,159
Pay per view originally wasn't World's in, wasn't that big,

1733
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:45,199
and now it's it's gotten to a point where it

1734
01:48:45,279 --> 01:48:47,199
is getting a little bit more shine.

1735
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year was not a good showing for the

1736
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,920
Worlds and the pay per view with something that's that

1737
01:48:56,039 --> 01:48:59,039
might have been a w's worst pay per view of

1738
01:48:59,079 --> 01:49:02,920
all time. But yeah, it looks a bit better this year,

1739
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:03,560
I'd say.

1740
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this this one's looking like that, it's actually

1741
01:49:09,079 --> 01:49:12,039
going to be good. So you're gonna have your Continental

1742
01:49:12,279 --> 01:49:17,720
Classic winners first, the runner up match and then the

1743
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:18,600
winners match.

1744
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 2: So how does this runners up thing work? Like, I'm

1745
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,880
not as burst into the rules and stuff of the Classic.

1746
01:49:29,039 --> 01:49:31,159
Is it just like does the runners up match to

1747
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:33,760
give them anything? Or is that just like just the

1748
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:35,439
runners up will have a match?

1749
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: So I believe it is, and this is weird. So

1750
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:43,960
you could have in the funt it is the Blue

1751
01:49:44,039 --> 01:49:47,880
League winner versus the Gold League runner up, and then

1752
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,680
the Gold League runner and then the Blue League runner

1753
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:55,119
up versus the Gold League winner, and then whoever wins

1754
01:49:55,159 --> 01:49:59,199
those will go on to face each other for the

1755
01:49:59,239 --> 01:50:00,800
Continental Championship.

1756
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,399
Speaker 2: So in theory, both runners up could beat the winners

1757
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:08,600
and then face each other to be the real winner.

1758
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: Yep. Or you could have a just straight up Blue

1759
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:16,760
league or just straight up goal league finals. Yeah, so

1760
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,800
you could win. Yeah, you could be the Blue League

1761
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,359
winner and think, okay, who am I facing from the

1762
01:50:23,359 --> 01:50:25,680
goal league and then end up facing the runner up

1763
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,640
someone you've already faced before, Like it gives it that

1764
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,079
that deeper layer that the final could be you've already

1765
01:50:34,079 --> 01:50:37,520
faced before. So I do like that aspect of it.

1766
01:50:40,039 --> 01:50:43,479
But the whole Continental Classic thing as a whole has

1767
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:49,520
just been, in my opinion, weird with the belt and

1768
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,720
its lineage and everything like that. So Okada is the

1769
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:57,479
championship now, so like he loses the championship in a

1770
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,319
match he's not even in. I don't know. Do they

1771
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,920
just automatically do you see him just walking into the

1772
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:08,840
finals because he's the championship and then him losing it outright,

1773
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,479
or does he win it all so that they don't

1774
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,920
have to do some weird switch with the belt, Like

1775
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,880
how does that work? That is?

1776
01:51:16,319 --> 01:51:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm not really I think that it goes back to

1777
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,159
the fact that this belt really should have been like

1778
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:26,000
some sort of trophy or something like that to make

1779
01:51:26,039 --> 01:51:30,439
a bit less complicated. But I assume they'll have it

1780
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:34,640
figured out and it'll makes sense. But yeah, definitely definitely

1781
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:39,199
a bit complicated there in terms of how this belt

1782
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:43,279
affects them, But it will be some great matches along the.

1783
01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Way, speaking of weird belts and weird championships, you've got

1784
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,600
MJF versus Adam Cole for the Dynamite Diamond Ring.

1785
01:51:51,359 --> 01:51:52,720
Speaker 2: Is it actually for the ring?

1786
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: It's it's for the ring. I mean Adam Adam Cole

1787
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:02,560
won won the qualifiers, so it's actually for the ring.

1788
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,960
MJF being the five time ring holder, I haven't won

1789
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,319
it every year, so is it finally the year where

1790
01:52:09,359 --> 01:52:13,640
someone else wants it? Or like I never thought that

1791
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:20,560
we would be wrestling for a legitimate ring. And you know,

1792
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:24,359
it's different from when Cody switched the ROH title to

1793
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,600
a ring so he didn't have to carry the ROH

1794
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,199
title with him everywhere. But this is like an actual

1795
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:36,039
championship ring that people compete for. And yeah, I think

1796
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:40,000
MJF is going to continue the win with it, and

1797
01:52:40,039 --> 01:52:42,520
that's going to set up more stuff with Adam Cole

1798
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,960
and the Kingdom breaking down because to me, the Kingdom's

1799
01:52:45,039 --> 01:52:48,239
not working. The whole Devil thing didn't work. The Kingdom's

1800
01:52:48,319 --> 01:52:53,159
not working. I think you just need to break them

1801
01:52:53,239 --> 01:52:56,079
up and then do a relaunch with Adam Cole.

1802
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the whole double Like people talk about

1803
01:52:59,159 --> 01:53:01,720
how it didn't really work for Adam Cole when you

1804
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,319
look at the rest of this faction, like they just

1805
01:53:04,319 --> 01:53:07,640
went lower and lower down the card to the point

1806
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,680
where Wardlow has like completely disappeared from a W I.

1807
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,319
Speaker 1: Forgot wardlaw was a part of this. He was a

1808
01:53:14,319 --> 01:53:16,119
part of that the Devil, he.

1809
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:18,159
Speaker 2: Was one of the he was one of the devils

1810
01:53:18,399 --> 01:53:23,800
masked men. And yeah, he's just been gone there. But uh, yeah,

1811
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,640
I guess that makes sense. I'm draft winning. I just

1812
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:31,000
didn't think they would really continue this June after this point,

1813
01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:32,720
but I guess we'll.

1814
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:39,119
Speaker 1: See, yeah, John Moxley, Orange Cassidy, Hangman, Adam Page, and

1815
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:42,520
Jay White in a fatal four way match for AW

1816
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:47,720
World Championship. Again. I don't see Orange Cassidy being World Champion.

1817
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,199
Much as I like him and I think he's been

1818
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:54,680
a great asset for AW, I just don't see him

1819
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,800
being world champion unless it's going to be a a

1820
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:03,359
transitional world champion. But do you think somebody else could

1821
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,560
win over John Moxley.

1822
01:54:06,039 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think this match will start

1823
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:14,920
with the three let's say good Ish guys attacking him

1824
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:18,560
three on one, but eventually it'll break down. Obviously, they

1825
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,479
start fighting each other to the point where I assume

1826
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,479
some people are down, there's one guy left. Moxley comes in,

1827
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,239
hits this finisher and retains the title.

1828
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could definitely see that. I think that it

1829
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:41,239
will be a situation where the one on one between

1830
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:47,880
Hangman and Switchblade distracts from the match. They end up brawling,

1831
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:52,159
taken out, and then maybe Moxley pins Orange Cassie to

1832
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:55,920
retain while they're off distracted, and that leads to more

1833
01:54:56,079 --> 01:54:59,920
with them instead. But I just don't see Orange cast

1834
01:55:00,079 --> 01:55:04,239
He winning, But I could if you are going to

1835
01:55:04,399 --> 01:55:10,600
switch the title, maybe do Hangman. I don't think Jay

1836
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:14,880
White has been positioned as a champion in ae W,

1837
01:55:15,399 --> 01:55:19,359
not to that degree, not like he was back in

1838
01:55:19,479 --> 01:55:22,880
New Japan. So the only other option I think would

1839
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:27,720
be Hangman Adam Page. But I see John Moxley continuing this.

1840
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Plus, I think if you are building j White,

1841
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:34,960
I think you're I think what they're building too is

1842
01:55:35,039 --> 01:55:38,640
a singles match between him and Moxley for the title.

1843
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:44,399
I assume in Australia for Grand Slam, not his exact

1844
01:55:44,399 --> 01:55:46,199
home country, but next to it.

1845
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see Mariah May versus Thunder Rosa Tewana Street

1846
01:55:53,359 --> 01:55:59,640
Fight for the aw Women's Championship. Mariah May has been

1847
01:56:00,279 --> 01:56:05,560
class recently. I've I know, I looked on the internet.

1848
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,359
Some people haven't liked her as champion. I've loved her

1849
01:56:08,359 --> 01:56:12,680
as champion. I've loved the back and forth with her

1850
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,239
as champion, Like I really feel she has brought a

1851
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,880
fun aspect to that championship title. She's continued some of

1852
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,720
the stuff that she had done with Tony Storm and

1853
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,600
just continuing that feel. I don't think thunder Rosa has

1854
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:30,720
been positioned in a point recently to make you feel

1855
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,960
like she's a real credible threat.

1856
01:56:34,159 --> 01:56:38,199
Speaker 2: The only person she's beat just over and over and

1857
01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:41,600
over for the last four months has been Harley Cameron.

1858
01:56:42,079 --> 01:56:44,680
She's had no no, she's beaten no other people. I

1859
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,159
don't think she's even wrestled other people other than Harley

1860
01:56:48,199 --> 01:56:51,880
Cameron for like four months. Yea, and she just gets

1861
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,720
the the title here.

1862
01:56:54,479 --> 01:56:58,239
Speaker 1: She she shows up, she has the sign about you

1863
01:56:58,279 --> 01:57:01,560
know how she's I'm a fan of the current product

1864
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,319
and things like that. But to me, she's not really

1865
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:09,000
positioned as a strong championship contender. I think she's gonna

1866
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,039
put on a great match I think dunder Russa can

1867
01:57:11,079 --> 01:57:13,680
wrestle her ass off. Don't get me wrong. She can

1868
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,079
hold her own and she can take Mariah May through

1869
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:21,279
different segments and different maneuvers that you wouldn't normally see

1870
01:57:21,279 --> 01:57:23,279
in a Mariah May match, and I think that will

1871
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:25,399
add an extra layer to it. I just don't see

1872
01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:27,920
her as champion.

1873
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like for me, like to counter, I haven't been

1874
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,399
a huge fan of Maria's rain. I feel like a

1875
01:57:35,399 --> 01:57:39,039
lot of the matches have just sort of been filler

1876
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:43,199
waiting until Tony comes back, and there hasn't been much

1877
01:57:43,239 --> 01:57:47,399
story for any of the defenses I'd say, besides just

1878
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:53,159
like sort of needing a defense, and I've just thought

1879
01:57:53,239 --> 01:57:55,199
it's been okay.

1880
01:57:56,079 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing two special. Well, we'll just have to see

1881
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:06,159
where it goes. Right now, there's seven matches scheduled for this,

1882
01:58:06,399 --> 01:58:09,840
which means that they're going to add four more between.

1883
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 2: Now and was announced on Twitter like the day before

1884
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:19,279
the show, like it wasn't Bill on TV, like they

1885
01:58:19,359 --> 01:58:22,960
just announced that like through the account. So I assume

1886
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:27,880
this will be another eleven to twelve match card, including

1887
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:29,520
pre show matches and all that.

1888
01:58:30,399 --> 01:58:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have your mid cart titles on there,

1889
01:58:34,199 --> 01:58:37,399
the TBS or TNT championships, so those will probably be added.

1890
01:58:38,239 --> 01:58:39,960
They'll probably do something with the tax.

1891
01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:43,399
Speaker 2: Did we mention the international yet?

1892
01:58:43,479 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: That that's that's number seven. That's the next one. That's

1893
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,439
the latest one that has been announced is Kenoski Takesha

1894
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:59,920
versus Powerhouse Hobbs. Yeah, Big Big so there biggest smile

1895
01:59:00,079 --> 01:59:06,239
and somewhere Big is smiling Powerhouse Hobbs. I like him.

1896
01:59:06,279 --> 01:59:08,680
He he will give a good match, but I don't

1897
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:13,439
see him beaten Takeshta. I see h Takesha continuing, and

1898
01:59:13,479 --> 01:59:16,039
I believe Takesha is going to be competing in Japan

1899
01:59:16,279 --> 01:59:19,960
along with the Young Bucks and everybody on that joint show.

1900
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 2: So I think he's I think he's having a match

1901
01:59:23,039 --> 01:59:25,880
on both shows, I think, and I think they're somehow

1902
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,159
connected something like on one of the shows he's fighting

1903
01:59:29,279 --> 01:59:32,119
for a title, and then on the other show it's

1904
01:59:32,119 --> 01:59:34,640
obviously if he if he wins, then he'll defend that

1905
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,800
title against someone on the second show. I think I

1906
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,439
think the order is the aw one is first and

1907
01:59:40,479 --> 01:59:44,880
then the Wreussell Kingdom is second. So I think Russell

1908
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,159
Dynasty is first.

1909
01:59:46,359 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: I have no Russell Kingdom is first because Russell Kingdom

1910
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:57,439
is always on January fourth, and then the aw Dynasty

1911
01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:02,680
is on the fifth. Okay, so yeah, because that's Zach

1912
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,880
Sabers Junior versus Ricochet, even though the day before it's

1913
02:00:07,119 --> 02:00:12,000
Zach Saber Junior versus Chateaumino for the championships.

1914
02:00:12,079 --> 02:00:17,279
Speaker 2: So not spoiling a result lyrics.

1915
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:26,079
Speaker 1: Yes, but he's gonna be a part of that. So

1916
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,720
I don't think you're gonna take the championship off of

1917
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:33,800
him when he's about to have a strong showing going forward.

1918
02:00:34,039 --> 02:00:37,800
I just yeah, you don't. You don't waste that. Now,

1919
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,159
the Young Bucks not having the title, but going over

1920
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:42,439
to Japan, that's one thing because they're the Young Bucks.

1921
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:45,119
Same thing with Kinney Omega. You can send them over

1922
02:00:45,159 --> 02:00:48,640
there with the rich history and that not be an issue.

1923
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:52,720
While to catch that, I think you don't send him

1924
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:57,239
over there without the championship, especially the International Championship, and

1925
02:00:57,279 --> 02:01:01,520
then he's competing against people in Japan and you pretty

1926
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:02,920
much have to have that at some point.

1927
02:01:04,439 --> 02:01:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1928
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:11,479
Speaker 1: So, now, do you have any predictions for the Gold

1929
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:15,000
League winner and the Blue League winner? Right now? As

1930
02:01:15,039 --> 02:01:18,600
it stands, Kyle Fletcher is leading the Blue League with

1931
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:24,319
Kazuo Kata as runner up, and Will Osprey and Claudio

1932
02:01:25,239 --> 02:01:28,800
and Ricochet are all tied with six points, with will

1933
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:33,239
Ospray technically being the top due to head to head

1934
02:01:33,279 --> 02:01:36,000
defend defeats.

1935
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 2: I could see the finals being I think I predicted

1936
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:47,119
this of it being Osprey Fletcher. Yeah, so I see

1937
02:01:47,239 --> 02:01:53,199
Osprey would defeat someone in the first match, maybe get

1938
02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:58,640
a win back on Claudio perhaps to qualify and get

1939
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:03,960
into that final, and the or how the brackets work

1940
02:02:04,119 --> 02:02:06,840
will do I'm thinking of it now, I think I

1941
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:09,199
messed it up. But whatever. Either way, the I think

1942
02:02:09,239 --> 02:02:13,520
the finals will be will be a Fletcher and Ospray.

1943
02:02:14,479 --> 02:02:22,319
Speaker 1: Well, I think that it will be Kyle Fletcher as

1944
02:02:22,399 --> 02:02:29,000
the Blue League winner versus Ricochet will take the Gold

1945
02:02:29,079 --> 02:02:32,039
League runner up and Kyle Fletcher will beat him in

1946
02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:35,279
order to advance to the finals. I think Blue League

1947
02:02:35,319 --> 02:02:37,960
runner up will be Ocatta versus Goat League winner, which

1948
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,920
will be Will Osprey. I think they will have an

1949
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,600
absolute banger which will lead to Will Osprey being beat

1950
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:48,479
up in a match to face Kyle Fletcher in the finals.

1951
02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:51,960
As far as who wins that, I think even being

1952
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,960
beat up, Will Osprey wins that he gave Kyle Fletcher

1953
02:02:56,039 --> 02:02:58,640
the early wins, but I think will Osprey prooves he's

1954
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:01,560
the veteran and wins it on that big stage.

1955
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you have some of that Don call

1956
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,760
I don't know who exactly would maybe helped take out

1957
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,479
some of the Don Kallis type interference, but I think

1958
02:03:14,279 --> 02:03:17,800
ostpr ends up winning it through that interference being taken

1959
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:24,359
out somehow. Yeah, they flip over and knock out Callous

1960
02:03:25,079 --> 02:03:27,560
and take him down and then he ends up winning.

1961
02:03:28,479 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 1: So, like I said, we got two weeks until just

1962
02:03:32,039 --> 02:03:35,960
under two weeks until World's In. They're going to add

1963
02:03:36,319 --> 02:03:39,640
three or four more matches plus two pre show matches

1964
02:03:40,039 --> 02:03:45,800
at least to this bye band. So we shall see

1965
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:48,119
what else gets added. Like I said, I'm guessing a

1966
02:03:48,199 --> 02:03:52,000
tag team match TBS T and T and one other.

1967
02:03:55,720 --> 02:04:00,000
Oh let's see. And finally we have n X T versus.

1968
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,119
This is ae W.

1969
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 2: I guess this is in terms of I guess the

1970
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:09,560
ratings once again.

1971
02:04:10,359 --> 02:04:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they there has been some back and forth with

1972
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:20,960
the ratings and I am not a ratings. Oh my god,

1973
02:04:21,359 --> 02:04:24,520
look who beat who this week? And oh they had

1974
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:28,199
you know, one hundred thousand more viewers. Aw's in the

1975
02:04:28,279 --> 02:04:32,279
toilet versus NXT is in the toilet. I do think

1976
02:04:32,319 --> 02:04:34,600
some of it does get blown out of proportion. Why,

1977
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:38,720
like people post up pictures of the arenas. Up until recently,

1978
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:43,319
AW was running bigger arenas, but with the same amount

1979
02:04:43,359 --> 02:04:46,760
of people in the crowd. NXT is running their normal

1980
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,760
size shows. So it does look like, yeah, NXT is

1981
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,319
full every week, and oh my god, look at AW

1982
02:04:53,479 --> 02:04:56,920
with these huge empty sections. Yes, they have huge empty

1983
02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:03,239
sections in a fifteen tho person arena. It's it's not

1984
02:05:03,399 --> 02:05:06,960
the same. This to me is not the new Monday

1985
02:05:07,039 --> 02:05:09,640
Night Wars. This to me is not the new Wednesday

1986
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,760
Night Wars. And I'm just left.

1987
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:18,439
Speaker 2: They're going directly head to head. The comparison isn't really

1988
02:05:18,479 --> 02:05:22,199
there because they're not splitting the viewers. That being said,

1989
02:05:22,199 --> 02:05:25,199
when they did go head to head at the start

1990
02:05:25,279 --> 02:05:30,039
of November with NXT going into Wednesday, they did beat

1991
02:05:30,119 --> 02:05:30,640
them there.

1992
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 1: So I give all credit to Joe Hendry.

1993
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he was even on that show, the

1994
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:41,720
ECW one.

1995
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this about n XT. I think

1996
02:05:45,039 --> 02:05:50,960
NXT does a better job of promoting where they're going.

1997
02:05:51,359 --> 02:05:53,720
I think they do a better job of promoting new

1998
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:57,640
stars and a better job of promoting the possibilities, Like

1999
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,760
at any moment, you could see a new crossover, you

2000
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:04,960
could see something new happen with NXT. While I think

2001
02:06:05,239 --> 02:06:10,479
aw Tony Khan has been relying on the his thought

2002
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:14,439
that they are the best wrestling product, which they haven't

2003
02:06:14,479 --> 02:06:18,479
been putting out the best wrestling product. They have great

2004
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:22,520
wrestlers and they could, they just haven't been, and I

2005
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:27,119
think Tony's kind of been focused on the wrong things

2006
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:30,680
and putting his energy in the wrong places, which is

2007
02:06:31,399 --> 02:06:33,880
effectively hurting AW as a whole.

2008
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said about promoting where they're gonna be,

2009
02:06:38,039 --> 02:06:41,439
I think NXT is obviously different because they're taping that

2010
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:45,000
at the performance Center, so it's not like they're on

2011
02:06:45,079 --> 02:06:47,880
the road every week where you could possibly meet going

2012
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,079
for it. When they go somewhere, it's very much advertised

2013
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:53,479
and like a once a month, maybe twice a month

2014
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:56,119
type thing. So it builds that like, oh, I have

2015
02:06:56,199 --> 02:06:59,039
to go when it's near me, because they're probably not

2016
02:06:59,079 --> 02:07:01,399
gonna be near me for a long time if they

2017
02:07:01,399 --> 02:07:04,720
only do like one show outside the performance center a

2018
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,279
month when they're fact, I think this week they're in

2019
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:11,279
Massachusetts and like, and that's the thing. Also, they book

2020
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,359
small arenas. I think this week they're in I think

2021
02:07:15,399 --> 02:07:17,840
it's the it's the place where Sean lost his smile.

2022
02:07:18,279 --> 02:07:22,239
It's only about like bits of a thousand people in Massachusetts,

2023
02:07:22,319 --> 02:07:24,520
but they're running the show there.

2024
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't get the the commentary behind one

2025
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:35,399
versus the other. And I think that NXT has been

2026
02:07:35,399 --> 02:07:39,920
putting on great shows. They've been setting up future stars.

2027
02:07:40,039 --> 02:07:44,199
I think AW has its moments of setting up future stars,

2028
02:07:44,199 --> 02:07:48,159
but it's still a quality product, I think.

2029
02:07:48,319 --> 02:07:50,439
Speaker 2: I think the more interesting thing is less of the

2030
02:07:50,479 --> 02:07:55,039
week to week like ratings change because obviously anything can happen,

2031
02:07:55,079 --> 02:07:58,199
and like like a few like the Thanksgiving week, they

2032
02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:02,239
both had like one hundred thousand less viewers each on

2033
02:08:02,439 --> 02:08:05,239
both of their shows, so there's nothing in fluctuate. The

2034
02:08:05,279 --> 02:08:08,279
more interesting stuff is like the year over year like

2035
02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:11,720
how you see, like NXT has slowly been growing and

2036
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:16,279
gaining viewers. Well, AW like over years lost for like

2037
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:19,640
thirty percent of their audience or fifty percent or however

2038
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,039
much it will be when you compare it to like

2039
02:08:22,119 --> 02:08:25,520
twenty twenty one or twenty nineteen, when they're like at

2040
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:26,359
their peak peak.

2041
02:08:27,079 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much of that do you attribute to the

2042
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:34,600
what I feel has become the lack of long term

2043
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:38,159
storytelling that used to be something that AW was known for.

2044
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:43,479
And I feel like Tony has gone from the what

2045
02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:45,680
can I do? How can I make this story last

2046
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,720
as long as I can? To look at my new toys?

2047
02:08:49,159 --> 02:08:53,920
And how dare you say anything about the decisions I make?

2048
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say the same things. I mean too

2049
02:08:58,199 --> 02:09:01,880
about NXC, like right now, like the whole women's division

2050
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,960
is just the sort of the same thing you're saying,

2051
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,560
look at the new toys. I mean, you could make

2052
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:12,039
those comparisons. But I think NXT is just sort of

2053
02:09:12,079 --> 02:09:17,640
like a different YOW like with it being developmental still,

2054
02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:21,640
there's just a lot of things that can change roster wise,

2055
02:09:22,359 --> 02:09:25,800
like week to week, and I think NXT sort of

2056
02:09:26,359 --> 02:09:28,760
since it is that developmental. I think one thing that

2057
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,600
helps is like people get attached more to some of

2058
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,680
these wrestlers, like if you want to see them succeed

2059
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:39,479
and stuff like that, as compared to bringing in like

2060
02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:44,359
an x WW star for example, to AW, like it's like, Okay,

2061
02:09:44,399 --> 02:09:46,439
I've seen this person, I know what they can do,

2062
02:09:47,079 --> 02:09:49,039
so like, yeah, I like them, but I don't have

2063
02:09:49,079 --> 02:09:51,000
to tune in all the time because I've seen them

2064
02:09:51,079 --> 02:09:54,199
before as compared to NXT, where it's like, I really

2065
02:09:54,239 --> 02:09:56,399
like this person. I can see them improving, so I

2066
02:09:56,439 --> 02:09:59,920
want to watch every week and see my favorite wrestler

2067
02:10:00,439 --> 02:10:02,199
and see what they do this week.

2068
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that AW is going to make

2069
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:15,960
some improvements to get back to where they were or

2070
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,520
do you think NXT is going to continue to rise

2071
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:20,119
and just overtake.

2072
02:10:21,399 --> 02:10:26,199
Speaker 2: I think it all depends on sort of. And I

2073
02:10:26,279 --> 02:10:31,000
had this take about like the ROH supposed TV deal

2074
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:34,079
that they supposedly put the title on Jericho to get

2075
02:10:34,119 --> 02:10:36,760
the TV deal, even though the last time they put

2076
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,439
the ROH title on Jericho was to get a TV

2077
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:42,439
deal and they to get a TV deal. But my

2078
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:45,960
take was that if this does get them a TV deal,

2079
02:10:46,319 --> 02:10:49,239
then why would they change anything because oh, clearly it's

2080
02:10:49,279 --> 02:10:53,239
working in their eyes. In business wise, I think that's

2081
02:10:53,319 --> 02:10:55,960
all going to depend on them moving to Max too.

2082
02:10:56,079 --> 02:10:58,680
They have the guaranteed money, and I think if they

2083
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:02,840
get a good viewership on streaming, like, they won't be

2084
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,800
worrying about the necessary viewers and they might not make

2085
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,920
as many changes if they're like, well, clearly this is

2086
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:12,399
working and we have our money, So why do we

2087
02:11:12,479 --> 02:11:15,720
need a change in their eyes? I mean they're just

2088
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:18,560
looking at it from a pure business sense.

2089
02:11:19,319 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, Jericho no longer screams dollars for me, Like, yes,

2090
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,399
he's an he has been an integral part of the show,

2091
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:31,800
but he's not who I would hang my hat on anymore.

2092
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,119
I do think.

2093
02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 2: Especially I think they. I think even they know that

2094
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,960
because this year, I think it's been I think it

2095
02:11:39,079 --> 02:11:42,119
was all out this year that was like the first

2096
02:11:42,279 --> 02:11:46,000
pay per view that Jericho ever missed, and since then

2097
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:48,239
he hasn't. I don't think he was on full gear.

2098
02:11:49,039 --> 02:11:51,159
I mean he might, No, he's not gonna be. I

2099
02:11:51,159 --> 02:11:55,199
don't think at World's End has this rh thing. So

2100
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,560
I think even they know that he's You don't need

2101
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,479
to put him in a match on every single paview

2102
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:01,880
and every single Dynamite.

2103
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not translating again. I think that it's

2104
02:12:07,159 --> 02:12:10,359
it's good to have him around, but not you don't

2105
02:12:10,359 --> 02:12:13,800
need him in the prolific role that you've had him in,

2106
02:12:14,319 --> 02:12:18,199
and you've got all these other stars, use them, build

2107
02:12:18,239 --> 02:12:22,079
them up and get people watching. Hell. I love Athena

2108
02:12:22,199 --> 02:12:24,560
and I would love to see Athena on TV more,

2109
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:29,399
especially if you're trying to get an ROH TV deal, Like, hey, here,

2110
02:12:29,439 --> 02:12:32,760
here's a snippet of what we have over there. If

2111
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,399
you want to see more, let's get RH on TV.

2112
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:39,520
Speaker 2: Because you show every other ROH title dependent on Dynamite,

2113
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,199
like except her pretty much. I think I think you

2114
02:12:43,239 --> 02:12:47,079
could say literally every single other RH title has appeared

2115
02:12:47,159 --> 02:12:52,199
like consistently at some point within the last year on AWTV,

2116
02:12:52,279 --> 02:12:55,680
specifically Dynamite, and She's really only been on the other

2117
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,920
time outside of RH has really been like Battle of

2118
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:03,720
the Belts type shows, and those aren't gonna be drawn

2119
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:05,520
many viewers.

2120
02:13:05,159 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 1: Or attention especially.

2121
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty much being forced to make these shows. Yeah,

2122
02:13:13,439 --> 02:13:18,000
but yeah, it's definitely an interesting scenario. But yeah, I

2123
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:22,880
definitely don't think AW is like dead or dying, but

2124
02:13:23,479 --> 02:13:25,600
it's definitely an interesting if you just look at the

2125
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:29,119
numbers of how the trends are going, and like people say,

2126
02:13:29,119 --> 02:13:32,600
like every company is hot and cold at some point,

2127
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:37,079
so it just takes one change, like it took like

2128
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:41,039
Cody Roads or The Rock coming back to make like

2129
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:45,840
Dowe like the hottest, and they could take like one

2130
02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:50,399
storyline in AW to make everything on fire again. So

2131
02:13:50,479 --> 02:13:53,560
who knows, But yeah, I guess we haven't talked about

2132
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:57,159
it either because we had the Netflix Raw premiere and

2133
02:13:57,199 --> 02:14:02,039
then AW is starting streaming on Mac. I think that

2134
02:14:02,119 --> 02:14:05,439
first week as well, I think before Netflix even so,

2135
02:14:06,119 --> 02:14:08,640
I'm not sure what day exactly that Wednesday is made

2136
02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:11,680
January first or second. I think it is the first.

2137
02:14:15,319 --> 02:14:18,039
I think that's going to be it's a special show.

2138
02:14:18,079 --> 02:14:20,760
I forget what the specific one is. I think Fight

2139
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:25,159
for the Fallen is going to be let's see.

2140
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it is Fight for the Fallen. That's

2141
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:41,760
the one that FDR has been really promoting. Yeah. Start

2142
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:48,199
in January tween twenty five, Dynamite will be shown same

2143
02:14:48,239 --> 02:14:56,720
thing with Collision simulcast on Max and then sometime later

2144
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:58,920
in twenty twenty five, Max will begin to offer a

2145
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:04,199
pip review AW events for a discounted price for their subscribers.

2146
02:15:04,239 --> 02:15:07,239
They don't say what the discount of price is, but

2147
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:15,840
discounted price, yeah, so I could I know Right now,

2148
02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:21,239
things of their old market has moved away from Bleacher

2149
02:15:21,279 --> 02:15:25,359
Report and now it is on the Triller TV, which

2150
02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:29,239
I switched over all my old purchases and then I

2151
02:15:29,279 --> 02:15:34,520
didn't even see them under Triller TV, so I've never

2152
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:39,319
been a fan of Triller TV's platform. But it's they

2153
02:15:39,359 --> 02:15:45,800
have also been airing AW shows internationally, so I think

2154
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:48,399
that's why they went with that. But I'm I'm happy

2155
02:15:48,439 --> 02:15:52,000
for them to have an agreement to start airing on

2156
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:56,359
Max as well and doing that livestream. So I don't

2157
02:15:56,359 --> 02:15:59,479
know if it will be commercial free. Also, like the

2158
02:16:00,079 --> 02:16:02,119
as a national broadcast.

2159
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:06,199
Speaker 2: I think Dave Miltzer was saying that he doesn't think

2160
02:16:06,239 --> 02:16:09,119
it's going to be a commercial free and some people

2161
02:16:09,199 --> 02:16:13,279
have even noticed that, like more in these past couple

2162
02:16:13,319 --> 02:16:18,640
of weeks during the commercial breaks in AW, the wrestlers

2163
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:21,800
have been working the matches like they've been having the

2164
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:25,560
rest type. It's not like on when they had when

2165
02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:28,000
you can watch the whole thing ad free, like they

2166
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,199
could just keep going through the action. People have noticed

2167
02:16:30,199 --> 02:16:32,399
even in the if you're watching the ad free free

2168
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:34,559
when they go to commercial, they've been working more of

2169
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:38,280
the w W put on your headlocks for three minutes

2170
02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:39,159
while we go to.

2171
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:43,520
Speaker 1: Commercial time time for the rest whole time for someone

2172
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:46,600
to get knocked out of the ring, and it's a

2173
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:49,239
good point for the referee to try and reset the match.

2174
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 2: People are theorizing that, uh, probably gonna be getting commercials

2175
02:16:53,159 --> 02:16:55,639
on Max because of that reason.

2176
02:16:56,239 --> 02:16:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not a fan of that, but it is

2177
02:16:58,239 --> 02:16:58,760
what it is.

2178
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:04,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's definitely gonna be interesting. Both major shows

2179
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:09,079
are going to streaming, with Raw and Dynamite in the

2180
02:17:09,159 --> 02:17:13,319
same week. Yeah, definitely gonna be an interesting era there

2181
02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:17,840
of how that works, and hopefully streams aren't crashing or

2182
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:19,520
glitching out and stuff like that.

2183
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this, We're not at a

2184
02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:30,360
point with wrestling where it is Mike Tyson, Logan Paul levels,

2185
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:33,840
so I don't think that that will be necessarily an issue,

2186
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:37,799
but hopefully everything goes well. I will say, I wonder

2187
02:17:37,799 --> 02:17:40,000
how many people will get locked out of their accounts

2188
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:45,799
because the sharing aspect will be exposed a little bit more. Yeah,

2189
02:17:46,159 --> 02:17:49,479
so it may booster the subscriber numbers with people who

2190
02:17:49,479 --> 02:17:54,600
are wanting to watch something live. So we shall see.

2191
02:17:55,159 --> 02:17:59,200
Speaker 2: But I think what stuff Max is necessarily streamed live.

2192
02:17:59,239 --> 02:18:02,319
I can't think of it anything specific that they I

2193
02:18:02,319 --> 02:18:05,639
think they they have some sport I think they they

2194
02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:08,399
have some sports packages maybe like m B A I

2195
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:11,719
think they have on Max. So if they can handle that,

2196
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:13,040
they'll probably be fine with.

2197
02:18:14,799 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have MAX and I only use it for

2198
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:21,920
really DC stuff and a couple of other stuff here

2199
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:22,760
and there, so that.

2200
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 2: I use it for that like the DC or like

2201
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:30,600
they have some eighty four stuff, I believe.

2202
02:18:30,799 --> 02:18:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really put it stuff. I haven't put it

2203
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,920
to the test too much. So we we shall see

2204
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:43,040
where we go with uh, both of these streaming deals.

2205
02:18:43,079 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 2: I do.

2206
02:18:43,479 --> 02:18:46,440
Speaker 1: I hope it works out. A hope wrestling succeeds. Rising

2207
02:18:46,559 --> 02:18:49,639
Tide raises all ships. So I hope both of them

2208
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:52,879
do well with this. We get more of the fan base,

2209
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:55,639
we get more people into wrestling, it continues its build

2210
02:18:55,719 --> 02:18:57,200
up mainstream. I'm all for it.

2211
02:18:57,319 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 2: So it is to find that the easier is to

2212
02:19:01,399 --> 02:19:05,879
to make fans, especially if it's not on traditional cable TV.

2213
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:07,920
If you're just able to put on an app, click

2214
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:11,479
on one button and watch it, that'll be bringing in

2215
02:19:11,559 --> 02:19:13,760
it because it'll be easier just all you want to

2216
02:19:13,799 --> 02:19:16,639
watch this, especially if the thing the rumor is like

2217
02:19:16,719 --> 02:19:19,479
all these raws and stuff like that, like once they

2218
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:23,319
end the stream, like they'll immediately be available to UH

2219
02:19:23,799 --> 02:19:27,680
to watch like as a as a vo D there.

2220
02:19:28,079 --> 02:19:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't have to do the Hulu wait until nine

2221
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:34,159
am the next morning.

2222
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:36,239
Speaker 2: Peak cock. You have to wait like a whole month

2223
02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:37,920
to see any of these episodes.

2224
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:41,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that that will be good. Before we

2225
02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:42,559
get out of here, I know, I'm putting you on

2226
02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:48,000
the spot. Do you have an update on where we

2227
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:48,879
are with the draft?

2228
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I did manage to do it before.

2229
02:19:54,719 --> 02:19:56,879
So let me read out here.

2230
02:19:57,079 --> 02:19:57,479
Speaker 1: We have.

2231
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, uh, well, I can start with the euro fifty mounts.

2232
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:06,520
So we are on week the end of week thirty

2233
02:20:06,639 --> 02:20:13,879
seven here, and this week you got six points for

2234
02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:19,000
Gunther retaining his title. You got two points, and these

2235
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:23,000
are all doubled because of the the plee bonus sort

2236
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:27,280
of I'll count as a pili Yeah yeah, gun thro

2237
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:30,200
retin excited, got points for Priest being in the match.

2238
02:20:30,719 --> 02:20:34,079
You got points for La Knight he technically won against

2239
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:38,200
Solo by DQ. So you get two points there on

2240
02:20:38,399 --> 02:20:42,000
snackdown two points for Balor being in the match. And

2241
02:20:42,079 --> 02:20:44,600
those were your points for the week. And you're at

2242
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:49,799
a total of three hundred and seventy nine normal points

2243
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:55,079
with two sixty five bonus points and twenty two jabber

2244
02:20:55,120 --> 02:21:02,879
bonus points. Then Travis is at this week. He got

2245
02:21:02,959 --> 02:21:07,280
points for re Oh. Yeah, she beat Raquel. That was

2246
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:10,520
a stipulation match, so that's some extra points there. He

2247
02:21:10,559 --> 02:21:13,159
got points for her. He got points for Tiffany being

2248
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:20,079
in a match, Live retaining her title, and Solo being

2249
02:21:20,159 --> 02:21:23,079
in a match, So he is at four hundred and

2250
02:21:23,159 --> 02:21:26,680
ninety six points with two hundred and thirty five bonus

2251
02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:32,799
points and ten JAVA points. And then me got points

2252
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:37,079
for Cody retaining his title, Bailey being in a match,

2253
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,479
Sammy being in a match, he O being in a match,

2254
02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:45,399
and Chelsea Green becoming the inaugural United States Champion. Those

2255
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:48,280
are big points for me and I am at four

2256
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:55,000
hundred thirty seven points with three hundred seventy five bonus

2257
02:21:55,040 --> 02:22:00,200
points and thirteen JAVA points. So a Rumble win or

2258
02:22:00,239 --> 02:22:03,680
a chamber wind could maybe get me ahead of Travis

2259
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:07,440
with the normal points because ahead because of that money

2260
02:22:07,479 --> 02:22:10,680
in the bank, those plus.

2261
02:22:10,760 --> 02:22:13,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that the that's a big jump. Uh.

2262
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:17,520
Speaker 2: Rumble's gonna gonna get us a ton of points.

2263
02:22:18,719 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've got a couple of events coming up.

2264
02:22:25,760 --> 02:22:28,719
We've got another Saturday Nights main event, we have that

2265
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:33,879
n XT show, we have the Raw on Netflix debut.

2266
02:22:34,799 --> 02:22:38,879
So between all of these things, we will have some

2267
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:43,440
chance to get some points before the next time we

2268
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:47,799
talked to you all again. I will say with we

2269
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:52,120
will probably most likely be back after the next Saturday

2270
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:55,159
night's main event because that is before the roll rumbles,

2271
02:22:55,159 --> 02:22:58,479
so we'll have time to make our roll Rumble predictions

2272
02:22:58,799 --> 02:23:01,520
things like that, so we'll have NXT show, we'll have

2273
02:23:02,159 --> 02:23:06,680
worlds in and everything else before the Royal Rumbo. Roll

2274
02:23:06,760 --> 02:23:08,680
Rumble is the big one. We want to get in

2275
02:23:08,920 --> 02:23:11,200
our predictions ahead of that.

2276
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:17,000
Speaker 2: Possible, I would maybe like to do like a mini episode,

2277
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:21,760
maybe just covering that big week with like Dynamite on

2278
02:23:21,959 --> 02:23:25,440
Max and the Netflix premiere in NXT New Year's Evil,

2279
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:29,040
if possible, but if not, we'll definitely be back before

2280
02:23:29,079 --> 02:23:29,600
the roll.

2281
02:23:30,319 --> 02:23:32,719
Speaker 1: I can make that work. So we will get that

2282
02:23:33,079 --> 02:23:37,559
exact day and time picked out, check with everyone else's schedule,

2283
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:40,079
make sure we're not overlapping with anything else on the

2284
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:44,280
Geek First network, and come back and do just a

2285
02:23:44,360 --> 02:23:47,200
mini quick show. Won't be our normal couple hours bodes.

2286
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:49,040
We'll have time to touch.

2287
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Upbe the events of each show and maybe well, who knows,

2288
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:57,399
if the Rock does come back, we'll be talking about that. Yeah, yeah,

2289
02:23:57,840 --> 02:23:59,680
And I think that's it for today.

2290
02:23:59,719 --> 02:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Then yeah, and then we'll get prepared of like I said,

2291
02:24:02,959 --> 02:24:05,399
or Rumble will be the big one that's on February first.

2292
02:24:05,479 --> 02:24:08,719
We'll definitely be back before then. I'm not sure on

2293
02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:12,440
mister Snell's availability just yet, but we'll also talk to him,

2294
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:16,520
so he will be giving his roal Rumble prediction, whether

2295
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:21,239
in person or conveying it through us. But uh As,

2296
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,840
I appreciate you being the custodian of the draft and

2297
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:28,200
the points, even though I am continuing to get my

2298
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:31,000
ass kicked weekend and weekend.

2299
02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:33,239
Speaker 2: Who knows if you get if you get some Rumble

2300
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:36,680
and chamber winners on there, you could be again like

2301
02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:41,200
two hundred points and just sweep everyone in the last months.

2302
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm hoping, and I'm hoping that Gunther

2303
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:49,239
has a long and mighty rain so he he is

2304
02:24:49,399 --> 02:24:52,799
my tribal chief at this moment. So I appreciate gun

2305
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:55,719
through and all he's done. But espec's thank you for

2306
02:24:56,319 --> 02:24:59,840
joining me tonight. Thank you everyone who's watching and listening.

2307
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:03,719
I said, we will be back. We've got a busy

2308
02:25:04,719 --> 02:25:07,719
month and a half of events coming through. It's going

2309
02:25:07,799 --> 02:25:12,360
to be a nice fun winter with these streaming changes,

2310
02:25:12,639 --> 02:25:17,360
the overall changes, the plis coming up and then leading

2311
02:25:17,399 --> 02:25:21,760
into or Rumble, which is the official kickoff of WrestleMania season.

2312
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:25,200
So I hope to talk to you all soon as

2313
02:25:25,239 --> 02:25:26,840
well as you got anything you want to say, anything

2314
02:25:26,840 --> 02:25:28,159
you want to promote before we go.

2315
02:25:28,879 --> 02:25:32,360
Speaker 2: No, not really, just excited for all this stuff coming

2316
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:35,239
up in this next month and just one month pretty

2317
02:25:35,319 --> 02:25:39,440
much tons of stuff happening. So yeah, we'll be back soon.

2318
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:43,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's going to be a busy month

2319
02:25:43,559 --> 02:25:46,360
for those of you who do follow the rest of

2320
02:25:46,399 --> 02:25:50,479
the geek for streams and follow the uh the whole

2321
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:57,159
Keek Universe multi alliance stuff that we've got going on.

2322
02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:02,639
So those of you who know that at outside of

2323
02:26:02,719 --> 02:26:09,760
the geek Verse stream as itself, there's also the Geek

2324
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:13,399
Gos Alliance and on there there's a Marvel show that

2325
02:26:13,559 --> 02:26:19,559
has been hosted by two incredible gentlemen, Chris Balga and

2326
02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:22,600
Brent Clark. So Brent is gonna be taking a step back,

2327
02:26:22,639 --> 02:26:27,120
so I will be taking over temporary hosting duties on

2328
02:26:27,200 --> 02:26:29,600
the Marvel Show over there, So you can join me

2329
02:26:30,239 --> 02:26:34,280
right here on the geek First channel On Thursday, nights.

2330
02:26:34,959 --> 02:26:37,360
I'll be doing the Marvel thing for a while until

2331
02:26:37,799 --> 02:26:41,280
he returns from his brief sabbatical. But that yep, you

2332
02:26:41,319 --> 02:26:44,559
can catch us here. We will send out a tweet

2333
02:26:44,719 --> 02:26:48,440
or post on X with our next dates coming soon

2334
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:51,600
once we get it locked down so on that we

2335
02:26:51,639 --> 02:26:54,600
will see you all later. Have a great Sunday and

2336
02:26:54,639 --> 02:26:55,479
we'll talk to you soon.

2337
02:26:56,200 --> 02:27:00,639
Speaker 2: Bye.

2338
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:00,440
Speaker 1: Was