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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit later, of course, are True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Monks is going to join us. Thousands of people

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<v Speaker 2>working for LA County are now striking. They are walking

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<v Speaker 2>picket lines and a big demonstration going on downtown. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk with him about the latest. Fifty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>LA County workers currently on streting.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, traffic this morning downtown is a nightmare with people

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<v Speaker 1>walking off the job. There you're on TikTok. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>gotten involved with the enema trend? Well, let me I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just say this, it was an interesting morning. Really, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you looked extra special fresh this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But we start with the FBI. This was the headline

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<v Speaker 1>that the FBI is using polygraphs, and I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the FBI. Who else uses lie detector tests more

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<v Speaker 1>than the f BI?

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<v Speaker 3>This is not entirely unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligent and intelligence agencies often use light detector polygraph tests

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<v Speaker 2>in order to make sure that people are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on the up and up and not spying for some

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<v Speaker 2>other country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they say that these in particular, these polygraph text

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<v Speaker 1>tests in particular, are to find out who is leaking

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<v Speaker 1>information to the press.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're using it on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that in some cases they're using polygraph tests

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<v Speaker 1>that current and former officials say are creating a climate

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<v Speaker 1>of fear and intimidation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, this is not the movies. And a lie

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<v Speaker 2>detector test is not a lie detector test in the

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<v Speaker 2>traditional sense that you would think of. A polygraph measures

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<v Speaker 2>your stress. And if the climate in the FBI or

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<v Speaker 2>the Office of National Intelligence or the CI whatever wherever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, if here they started doing polygraph tests on people,

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<v Speaker 2>they get a lot of people who are stressed out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why polygraph tests are so unreliable and are thrown

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot in court.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it in court.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but still it's ridiculous, right that you go to

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<v Speaker 1>work and somebody hooks you up to a lie detector test.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you think about the FBI using light

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<v Speaker 1>detector tests. Of course they do when they're investigating people

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<v Speaker 1>or what have you. But using it on your own

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of different.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it. You shouldn't have to you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to take a lie detector test or a stress test,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell you want to call it. They're hooking

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<v Speaker 1>you up to a machine and measuring your personal levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's intrusive, and I would not sign off on

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<v Speaker 1>going to work and getting a lie detector test.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you have you would well to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the climate.

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<v Speaker 2>This, they say, has, you know, added to this climate

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<v Speaker 2>of everybody's looking over their shoulders. They're not quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>what management's going to do if you don't toe the

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<v Speaker 2>party line or in this case, the line that the

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<v Speaker 2>president and the Secretary of Defense, for example, have in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Than you are on the outs and could leave or

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<v Speaker 2>could be shown the door. A lot of people have

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<v Speaker 2>decided to show themselves the door. They've taken the early buyouts,

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<v Speaker 2>or they've taken the early retirement, or they simply quit

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<v Speaker 2>their job with no benefit at all because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently this happens. It happens every five years or so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a common thing with intelligence agencies of

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<v Speaker 1>just making sure that people can be trusted on the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But your point, they don't do it specifically to find leakers. Necessarily,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the purpose, right this, right now that's the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose is to try to plug up the leaks that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a difference between putting your head down doing

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<v Speaker 1>your job despite disagreeing with whatever the agenda is for

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<v Speaker 1>your government agency. It's part of signing up for government work.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are going to change from administration to administration. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that this one is different. But there's a difference

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<v Speaker 1>between putting your head down disagreeing and putting your head

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<v Speaker 1>out and just doing the work, or saying you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't for me and leaving and then leaking information.

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<v Speaker 4>To the media like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That too, I think that should absolutely be ferreted out,

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody who's going to roll on.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody, now listen, they can go too far. Pam Bondy

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<v Speaker 2>has supposedly put out some new legal guidelines that would

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<v Speaker 2>allow the Justice Department to subpoena a reporter's personal communications,

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<v Speaker 2>broadened the scope of some criminal potential criminal prosecution to

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<v Speaker 2>leaks of not just classified material, but other privileged, other

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive material that is all going to be covered. I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say always, but that has a pretty tough road

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<v Speaker 2>to hoe when it comes to, you know, eclipsing the

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<v Speaker 2>First Amendment, which gives reporters a lot of freedom when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to there.

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<v Speaker 4>You all right, I got a sneeze.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I thought you're gonna cry. Gosh, we could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the First Amendment of him.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>Little tears welling because I'm trying to sneeze.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you have any music?

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<v Speaker 3>The first is the thing I live by every morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I gat that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentioned it, Gary. I want to take off my jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing a red shirt and blue pag so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm white. I am the epitome of the flag today, Red,

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<v Speaker 1>white and.

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<v Speaker 4>Blue come back.

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<v Speaker 3>The shirt is red, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeans are blue, and I am white, and you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the First Amendment, and you're damn right, Gary.

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<v Speaker 4>I should be crying right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I should be crying because I live under this great

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<v Speaker 1>shield of the flag that we call the Stars and

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<v Speaker 1>stripes here in America, not up north. Were our leaders

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<v Speaker 1>who are newly elected are week streamed empty suit people.

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<v Speaker 1>I am an American. I have the weight of a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass. And sorry, I got carried.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you hear that guy talk? By the way, the

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<v Speaker 4>Canadian guy.

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<v Speaker 5>The new Canadian guy, Carni O m a, is it

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<v Speaker 5>super It is so weak stream like, it is the

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<v Speaker 5>worst orator I've ever heard in the history of somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who's spoke in a podium.

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<v Speaker 1>But he has the right. I'm sure he's a wonderful person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's super nice and he likes to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Out and about.

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<v Speaker 1>But my God, get that man a set of testicles,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if they're in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard like thirty seconds of his victory speech and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what on God's green earth?

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<v Speaker 4>That is not the stars and the stripes. That is leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the big that.

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<v Speaker 1>Exists up there, and it's and it also gives you shade,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are no balls on that leaf.

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<v Speaker 4>See what you did. You're having a nice little show.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you were like, you're crying over the First Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Were, I said first Amendment and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would like that, So no, I was trying to sneeze,

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<v Speaker 1>so it.

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<v Speaker 6>Not all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well see, and now we're gonna get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Congressman shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

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<v Speaker 2>or for hiving the exercise thereof bridging the freedom is

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<v Speaker 2>feature of the press or of the right of the

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<v Speaker 2>people peaceably to assemble or to petition the government for

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<v Speaker 2>the redress of grievance. It's beautiful, isn't it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be my alarm from now on, somebody saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll record that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, that's drop an MF.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of it, you wake up to me

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<v Speaker 4>reading the First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, power outage in Spain and Portugal and parts

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<v Speaker 2>of France.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it weird? We still have no reason why?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there should be something.

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<v Speaker 2>Simply saying oscillation is not gonna is not going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Quell people's fears about what happens. It is a great word.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>A M six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, did you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was National Fetanyl Day today?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you? How do you? How do mar today?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you well celebration the goal? I didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>you any fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't know?

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you call yourself a friend?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>It's very serious.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal is to remind people of the many deaths

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<v Speaker 1>each year caused by fentanyl and spread the word about neclozone.

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<v Speaker 3>Close looxo lox.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how much I don't know about fento whyloxo, not fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know. You don't know people. You also need

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<v Speaker 3>to get an automatic external defibrillator.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I have two fire extinguishers at my home. Not every

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<v Speaker 1>help anybody destroyer. Every time I see them, I think, why,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? We have a perfectly good fire

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<v Speaker 1>department here. You started a fire and house the other

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<v Speaker 1>day I did, and did I need a fire extinguishure?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>You know why because I'm an American and I put

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<v Speaker 1>that fire out myself, but in my eyes, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what this is in Canada, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know America.

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<v Speaker 2>A day after Spain and Portugal were hit by extensive blackouts,

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<v Speaker 2>they have been able to turn the electricity back on

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<v Speaker 2>in most areas in both of those countries.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are relieved.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we've seen power outages cripple countries like Puerto

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<v Speaker 2>Rico recently. The Dominican also suffered some selectrical problems recently,

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<v Speaker 2>but sharply critical now about what exactly caused this widespread

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<v Speaker 2>power failure. The Prime Minister of Spain said his country

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<v Speaker 2>has recovered more than ninety five percent of the total

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<v Speaker 2>supply as of today in Portugal. They said that power

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<v Speaker 2>has been restored to all of the substations and that

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<v Speaker 2>everything they say is one hundred percent operational. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of pockets. Again, this is the problem. The

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<v Speaker 2>cause of the blackout is still unknown. That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No definitive conclusions according to Spain. As to the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>for the outage, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that there had been no cyber security attack, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also ruled out human error.

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<v Speaker 4>And meteorological causes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how are you able to rule things out if

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<v Speaker 1>you are in a state of we don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>caused it, How are you able to rule out things

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<v Speaker 1>like human error?

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<v Speaker 2>It's and listen, I know this is a stupid way

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<v Speaker 2>to put it. Maybe it's a translation error. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying instead of there was no cybersecurity attack, Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying we have no evidence of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe but it's Spanish, it's not like it's Mandarin.

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<v Speaker 1>Cultural thing though too, maybe not even a language thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Collapse like they saw. Yeah, something more typically.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming up next. It is a mess downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>People are walking off the job. I listened to Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Show The Guy Gets Around.

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<v Speaker 4>You had a full day, full day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll bring him back. You feel some of the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Less important, knowing that he's passed around here like a

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Happy Tuesday, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Shannon, can you send me some of whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>is you're pumped up on today?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? You are fired up and I like that attitude,

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<v Speaker 3>so I could use some of that, So send it

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<v Speaker 3>my way. Thanks. Cottage cheese, is that right in your

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<v Speaker 3>in your eggs?

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<v Speaker 4>I had some?

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<v Speaker 1>I made some, Yeah, some egg egg for Tata. Things

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I had a lot of espresso. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty five thousand or so La County workers are on

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<v Speaker 1>You live downtown. That started at seven last night. What

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there is quite a rally going on. It just

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<v Speaker 3>try it. Well, it just so happens. There is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty large crowd outside the County building, naturally because this

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<v Speaker 4>So much fun though, aren't they just eight?

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<v Speaker 3>Nuts? I know you based on this, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>at this meeting gets going, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day we would all sit like I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you say, Chris Cross apples sauce. Now in the

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<v Speaker 1>is that still a practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be, but there aren't as many people plugging into

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<v Speaker 3>that audio and it aren't yeah, and the same like

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<v Speaker 3>the metro board meting. It's like a tiny little yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>online now and you can't never we never had that

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<v Speaker 3>benefit exactly getting it online. Have you accessed the internet before? Shannon?

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<v Speaker 3>Is you know what the.

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<v Speaker 4>Internet is what is it? I just my legs get

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<v Speaker 6>Me to.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing that happened last week or a couple weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to say Chris Cross apple sauce, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was I realized how old I am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I did it when I was twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I know. Oh, and I had to slither out

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<v Speaker 3>before everyone else did too, so I was, I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's on video somewhere. Absolutely, it's not going to be good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so uncomfortable there good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, the other people having a our day to day,

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<v Speaker 3>or these fifty five thousand plus workers whose union have

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<v Speaker 3>decided that we're on strike only for a little while.

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<v Speaker 3>So it started last night at seven. They're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>stop it at seven o'clock tomorrow evening. Their grievances are

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<v Speaker 3>they want. They certainly want at minimum a cost of

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<v Speaker 3>zero percent, and the County's like, look, we just produced

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<v Speaker 3>our proposed budget for the next fiscal year. We're cutting

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<v Speaker 3>all departments three percent across the board. We've got a

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<v Speaker 3>four billion dollar sex abuse settlement to pay. We were

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<v Speaker 3>looking at a possible two billion dollar expense from the wildfires,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're screwed. So the worker said, well, can't help,

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<v Speaker 3>but recall you just committed two hundred plus million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>to buy a skyscraper to move the government to. So

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<v Speaker 3>where did that money come from? And that's where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got this city with its cuts and then

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<v Speaker 1>the county with it cuts, all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's probably a situation where as you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>the room and save it for later. And this seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a case where that is true for the county

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<v Speaker 3>workers because the county budget does not propose any layoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got the sense when that budget was being

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<v Speaker 3>presented that it was no layoffs at this point. So

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<v Speaker 3>what happens next year? Because this sex abuse settlement, this

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<v Speaker 3>four billion dollars sex abuse, they're not writing a check

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<v Speaker 3>and saying, oh, it's going to hurt us this year.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that they predict into like twenty fifty

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't spent enough time on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the Catholic Church was like two

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<v Speaker 1>point five billions. It was more just the counties was

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<v Speaker 1>more right, Just to give you perspective on how big

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<v Speaker 1>this settlement is, it's nearly twice with the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 1>settled with kid's abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, dioceses across right the country had to do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of settlement.

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<v Speaker 1>But here, yeah, I mean, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church across the country and here that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about La County. I mean, it's retroactively, it's through

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<v Speaker 1>the years, but still like that is insane. And that

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what we are talking about. In this

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<v Speaker 1>culture of just settling everything, there's got to be there's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a conversation about that. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a tenable situation of just settling everything forever.

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<v Speaker 3>And it also calls into question the oversight of these

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<v Speaker 3>departments and how big this government is and how how

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<v Speaker 3>well managed it is. Now they're talking about closing some

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<v Speaker 3>of those juvenile halls where you know, some of this

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<v Speaker 3>abuse took place, reforming them, and it's a big concern

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<v Speaker 3>for the supervisors. But I talk to you guys about

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<v Speaker 3>this a lot. I've never seen any sense of urgency

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<v Speaker 3>from these governments. They're very good at pointing out what

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<v Speaker 3>they think is a problem, but not quick on the

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<v Speaker 3>solutions down on the street level outside of the ballroom

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<v Speaker 3>or the negotiations maybe or may not be taking place

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<v Speaker 3>at the street level. What kind of impact is this

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<v Speaker 3>going to have that we might see and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>LA County customers if you will, Yeah, all right, So

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<v Speaker 3>if you are dealing with in any type of county

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<v Speaker 3>services to day, yeah, there is a little bit of disruption.

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<v Speaker 3>And again it's only for a couple of days. So

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<v Speaker 3>the libraries came out and said, you know, we might

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<v Speaker 3>have some service disruption, might even have to close some

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<v Speaker 3>animal control might have some restrictions on adoptions today. You

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<v Speaker 3>might not be able to reclaim a pet if you've

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<v Speaker 3>lost a pet, for example, renewing pet licenses. The Assessor's

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<v Speaker 3>Office says the public may experience longer wait times if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going down to the tax office. But the one

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<v Speaker 3>stop shop on the first floor of the Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Administration is open if you need county services, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would avoid going there today. It's busy traffic on Temple

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<v Speaker 3>Street is probably backed up, and once traffic gets bad

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<v Speaker 3>on Temple and around that area where the Civic Center is,

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<v Speaker 3>it just bleeds out all over downtown and it's an

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<v Speaker 3>absolute mess to get down there. So regional satellite offices

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<v Speaker 3>they may experience some service delays as well. But again

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<v Speaker 3>these are the union workers who clean restrooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Who weeklyan your toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and in fact, the beach bathrooms might be impacted

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<v Speaker 3>by this as well. If you're headed to.

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<v Speaker 4>The beach today, I wouldn't use it. Best of times.

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<v Speaker 3>In downtown you can just go on the sidewalk, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you don't really need one, but who cares. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>La County dot gov.

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<v Speaker 2>Slash Closer Closures is also a site that they have

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<v Speaker 2>up if there are service delays or anything that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to check out.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see if the Board of Superfvisor says anything about

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<v Speaker 3>this today. Their meeting is is to get under way.

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<v Speaker 3>They are approving that sex abuse settlement. Normally, stretch your legs. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you're watching the meeting. I mean I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>Your like that was just general life advice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not bad life advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, stretch, get tight and you can't untype. Got a

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<v Speaker 2>great stretch for that if you need it, really Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>You laying your back, you can a cross your legs

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<v Speaker 3>and then the arms go through and you're pulling.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, uh wait what yours?

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<v Speaker 2>That's more from my that's mine too, Yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the one.

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<v Speaker 6>I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>The doctor told me I gotta cut back on. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always a pleasure, guys. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>The DVDs, the CDs, all of these hardware for all

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<v Speaker 2>of our music enjoyment and movies, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>They're making a comeback. We'll talk about that when we return.

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned this multiple times the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it kind of has reared its ugly head

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<v Speaker 2>that there seems to be a pendulum swing away from

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<v Speaker 2>digitization of everything and that people are moving towards flip phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Younger people are realizing that having all of the information

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<v Speaker 2>and the entire world at your fingertips can be a

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<v Speaker 2>distraction and not good for your health. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways that we're seeing that play out is physical

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<v Speaker 2>media sales are up. I think DVDs, CDs, cassettes, records

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<v Speaker 2>of all things. I got for my birthday a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. I got a record player and a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of albums to go with it. It's so much

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<v Speaker 2>fun to sit there and listen to final.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the images that I think probably our kids have

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<v Speaker 2>of people our age is that we sat around and

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<v Speaker 2>did nothing. I mean that you'd put a record on

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<v Speaker 2>and you would just look at the album cover, or

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<v Speaker 2>you would read the liner notes, or you would read

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<v Speaker 2>along with some of them had the lyrics sheets in

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<v Speaker 2>there as part of the album sleeve itself. All of

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<v Speaker 2>that was such a great way to learn about music

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<v Speaker 2>because you, for one thing, you'd listen to the whole album.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times you wouldn't just pick and choose,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, single songs and go through. You could, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was a that the artist wanted you to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the whole album.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a different way of consuming music. It just

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<v Speaker 1>was an album was meant to be listened to in

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<v Speaker 1>the or that it was presented.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of thought went into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to put it put a number to this.

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<v Speaker 2>The Recording Industry Association of America said, physical music purchases

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<v Speaker 2>comprised only eleven percent of music revenue in twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, that's almost eighteen billion dollars, but only

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<v Speaker 2>eleven percent of it was physical tapes, cassettes, records. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was a five percent jump from the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going backwards, it's going up. And the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of those sales, they said, were in vinyl records, which

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<v Speaker 2>for the last eighteen years has seen growth in record vinyls,

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<v Speaker 2>followed up by CDs, which sold about five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's up a little bit from the year before.

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<v Speaker 4>Should I get you a phonograph?

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<v Speaker 3>I have one?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, what's before the phonograph?

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<v Speaker 3>Eight track player?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want that?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe there is one at my parents' house. Think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm covered if I if I stumble upon, like, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>what was that great musical western they call the Wind Mariah?

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<v Speaker 4>They call the Wind Mariah.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a song and it was in Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents had Paint Your Wagon. My parents had the

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<v Speaker 2>eight track soundtrack to Paint Your Wagon and we would

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<v Speaker 2>listen to that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of Paint Your Wagon. It's what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Is that a euphemism?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's just that was the name of the set

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<v Speaker 3>in the Gold Rush.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think paint your wagon, met your wagon, your wagon

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<v Speaker 1>means something, but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to ask, I mean, what is it that you

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<v Speaker 3>still hang on top?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have Paint your wagon means to get things done?

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<v Speaker 1>Take action, fix the problem. Paint your wagon? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're you're trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get your taxes done. Paint your wagon?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have physical albums?

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<v Speaker 2>You and your husband have any records now, sets, anything,

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<v Speaker 2>old stack of old DVDs or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a lot of DVDs, cdds that I've been

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I remember how cool it was finding my

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<v Speaker 1>parents' old records, like in their house, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>my husband's parents like finding their records and like just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what they listen.

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<v Speaker 4>To is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a tower and it's only you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>feet high or whatever, but we have a CD tower

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<v Speaker 2>that we got probably from Peer one, and we thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a massive purchase when we were freshly married,

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<v Speaker 2>and it holds one hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Or tower cdsful, aren't they? They should all be burned.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's been with us the entire time. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think i've opened it in years. And we had some

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<v Speaker 3>friends whose daughters wanted to come over and they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to look through it. I'm like, take whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of these can be played on you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>music service I have. But I realized that some of

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<v Speaker 2>those as I go back and if you look at them,

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<v Speaker 2>each of the I remember buying that DVD or that CD,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember getting it as a gift, or I remember

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<v Speaker 2>listening to it in you know, the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing says nineteen ninety four like a freaking CD tower.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, paint your wagon could be I'm gonna beat you up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna paint your wagon.

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<v Speaker 4>You better watch it, or I'm gonna paint your wagon.

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<v Speaker 4>Get it after it, paint your wagon. Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Let us know what records, DVD, CDs, whatever it is

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<v Speaker 3>that you have held on to and how you when

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<v Speaker 3>do you listen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have the the like I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>how to describe it. The CD holder that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you would have four CDs per plastic page

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<v Speaker 1>that you fet through.

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<v Speaker 4>As you were driving.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have that massive, like fabric binder of just

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<v Speaker 1>awful music. I'm sure it would be kind of a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of why I haven't thrown them out, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of fun for me to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>look at what were you listening to thirty years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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