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<v Speaker 1>This is an email from a woman named Shelley, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's from the Pacific Northwest. And this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting kind of violent story. It's pretty scary. She begins

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<v Speaker 1>the email. She tells me she's a seventy year old

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<v Speaker 1>retired nurse. She's a twenty seven year veteran of the

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<v Speaker 1>Navy and the Army. She was in from nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven to nineteen ninety four. She's been to Japan and

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, and she deals with veterans who suffer from PTSD.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a disabled combat veteran due to exposures to

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<v Speaker 1>environmental contaminants in the area that her unit was in

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety one. Gustin, that was kuwait. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what she writes. I grew up in Oregon and frequently

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<v Speaker 1>went hunting and fishing with my father every year since

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<v Speaker 1>I could hold a fishing pole or legally hunt with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you might say that I knew most of

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<v Speaker 1>the animals that are normally found in the area near

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<v Speaker 1>where I lived and hunted during these expeditions into the wilds.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen, heard, or smelled anything that might be

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of a sasquatch that lived in the areas where

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<v Speaker 1>we hunted. I've also been skeptical that such a creature

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<v Speaker 1>existed even after the Patterson film was released. While I

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<v Speaker 1>was on active duty, I came home on leave for

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<v Speaker 1>hunting season, which occurs around my dad and my own

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<v Speaker 1>birthday every year. The last hunting seasons that I went

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<v Speaker 1>with my father before he could no longer hunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>last hunt trip was near the area where my encounter

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<v Speaker 1>would occur, and we've seen bears and big cats and

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<v Speaker 1>elk and deer in that area. I have three cats,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've always kept three since I left active duty.

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<v Speaker 1>My cat's age and pass on, and I take them

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<v Speaker 1>and bury them in the same area that all of

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<v Speaker 1>our pets have been buried over the years. Since there

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<v Speaker 1>are bears in the area of our little pet cemetery,

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<v Speaker 1>I carry a side arm when I'm up there. I

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<v Speaker 1>also remain alert to the sounds around me because of

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<v Speaker 1>bearing big cats. My big time cat, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to pronounce his name, Shot in Yeger. Shot in Yeger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a German name. I'd spell it for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>just suffice it to say Shot in Yeger passed away

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<v Speaker 1>the day before the encounter. On June eighteenth of twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon of the nineteenth, I took him up to

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<v Speaker 1>the little pet Cemetery below Harness Mountain, which is located

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<v Speaker 1>in Douglas County in Oregon. I was digging the small

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<v Speaker 1>grave and was nearly done when I heard what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was a bear moving through their brush on the

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<v Speaker 1>small hill above the pond. The breeze shifted and I

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<v Speaker 1>got a whiff of a strong musky smell, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I had a bear, either stalking me or passing

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<v Speaker 1>close by. I drew my pistol and I chambered around,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened next caught me totally by surprise. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a loud grunt and something started to stomp through

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<v Speaker 1>the trees, and it was snapping branches as it went.

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<v Speaker 1>The dry ground made the stomping sound like hollow drum beats. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I finished digging the grave while the creature circled me,

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<v Speaker 1>stomping and grunning, And when it was the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>me across the pond, it picked up a big rock

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<v Speaker 1>about the size of a medium Hermiston watermelon and threw

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<v Speaker 1>it across the pine toward me. It landed a short

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<v Speaker 1>distance from the bank, and it splashed water up to

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<v Speaker 1>where I was digging. Well. This was disconcerting, so I

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<v Speaker 1>finished the burial without any ceremony, and I stacked some

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<v Speaker 1>large rocks on the grave that I had hauled up

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<v Speaker 1>with me to protect it, and then I I got

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<v Speaker 1>ready to leave. While I was still there, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>branches being snapped, and at one point I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>large snag maybe twenty feet tall and a good eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>inches thick get pushed over. I finished up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I loaded my tools back into the pickup and I

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<v Speaker 1>got ready to drive off, and I heard another loud

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<v Speaker 1>grunt from the hill behind me. I got in and

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out onto the main road and started to drive away.

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<v Speaker 1>As I passed through a clump of brush near the

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<v Speaker 1>swampy area, a rock came flying from the brush and

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<v Speaker 1>hit my windshield, knocking a big round chip out of

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<v Speaker 1>it down the road a bit. A long piece of

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<v Speaker 1>branch hit the pickup and landed in the bed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I sped up and I got out of there. The

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<v Speaker 1>rock that hit the windshield had dropped down into the

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<v Speaker 1>opening between the windshield and under the rear edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the hood and The rock was larger than a soft ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and the branch measured eight feet long and four inches

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<v Speaker 1>thick along the length. It was too large and heavy

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<v Speaker 1>to have been easily thrown by a human. After reflecting

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<v Speaker 1>on this encounter, there must have been more than one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, based on the distance between where the rock

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown and where the branch was thrown. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back up there a couple of weeks later to check

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<v Speaker 1>on the fresh grave to be sure that it had

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<v Speaker 1>not been dug up by a wild predator, and I

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<v Speaker 1>planted some native iris. The new grave was untouched, but

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the three little graves, I found that

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<v Speaker 1>some large flat river rocks had been placed on top.

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<v Speaker 1>The nearest source for those type of rocks was fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles away. As I was leaving on this trip, another

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<v Speaker 1>rock was thrown at my pickup. It was as I

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<v Speaker 1>drove away, and this one landed in the bed, doing

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<v Speaker 1>no damage. The rock was close to the same type

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<v Speaker 1>and size as those being used on the newer logging

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<v Speaker 1>roads in the area. In the summer of twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a dry year and many of the springs

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<v Speaker 1>had dried up. In the pond was probably the only

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<v Speaker 1>source of water near These creatures may have been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to drive me so that they could access the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw the creatures that I encountered, but one

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<v Speaker 1>thing is for sure. Bears don't stomp, nor can they

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<v Speaker 1>throw rocks or sticks. I've heard later that when sisquatch

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<v Speaker 1>throws rocks, they lobbed them underhanded. But the rocks that

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<v Speaker 1>were thrown at me were thrown with a flat trajectory,

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<v Speaker 1>like a baseball. I didn't take time to search for

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<v Speaker 1>the tracks or any other evidence of what had been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to intimidate me. I felt that I was not

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in that area, at least when I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been elkin deer hunting since my encounter, so

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<v Speaker 1>many of these creatures have moved on. It has now

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<v Speaker 1>been a year since I've been up there last, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will be going back when my elderly cat passes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Since this encounter, I have a video camera set up

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<v Speaker 1>in my pickup and I now explore the back roads

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<v Speaker 1>in the area where I live, and when I record

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<v Speaker 1>the intro to each video, I jokingly say, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>catch the big Harry Goull on this trip. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess maybe I'm looking to catch one of these creatures

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<v Speaker 1>on video, but I enjoy the videos of wildlife, wildflowers, mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>waterfalls and whatever I do find. And she signs off

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<v Speaker 1>as Shelley of the PNW, and she reminds me that

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<v Speaker 1>PNW means Pacific Northwest. I actually knew that one. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that that's one of them? I actually knew,

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought this was a crazy story. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a pet cemetery. I don't know. Whenever we

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<v Speaker 1>have pets die, we just kind of we just bury

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<v Speaker 1>them in the yard, or you know, if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a real close pet, or if it's a chicken or something,

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<v Speaker 1>we just throw them out in the woods and let

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<v Speaker 1>the predators get them or scavengers. But the pet cemetery thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a neat idea to find a place

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<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of nowhere and bury your pets.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that idea. I've never thought of that. To

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<v Speaker 1>be there saying goodbye to a treasured pet and then

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<v Speaker 1>be harassed by bigfoot is And I know people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in their area, blah blah blah. If they're as

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<v Speaker 1>smart as people think they are, then they know what

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<v Speaker 1>this woman's doing. She's carrying a dead cat. She's digging

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<v Speaker 1>a hole to bury the cat. She's not coming in

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<v Speaker 1>moving in on their territory. And if they're as smart

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<v Speaker 1>as people think they are, they should know that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. It kind of bothers me that they harass

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<v Speaker 1>people that are just not doing much of anything but

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<v Speaker 1>walking or whatever. I mean, I'm not really mad about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I don't know. I guess I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a heart for this woman because she's

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<v Speaker 1>bearing a pet. We have a lot of pets, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love them. And I don't know. I'm just rambling on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was a great story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they can be dangerous. One of those rocks could

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<v Speaker 1>have come through the windshield and hit her in the

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<v Speaker 1>head and killed her. Come on, that stick four inches

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<v Speaker 1>round and eight feet long. That's a dangerous weapon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it went. And she doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>too scared, so she says she's going back out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty cool. I think that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks Shelly for sending the story. In nineteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the Air Force and stationed at

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<v Speaker 1>Fairchild Air Force Base and spoke in Washington. I was

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<v Speaker 1>training to be a survival instructor, so I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>great deal of time in the Connects, Sue, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Ka, n IKSU connect Sioux National Forests. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>loved the piece I feel when I'm out in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never hunted, but did a lot of camping and fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>While I was in training. I had to learn to

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<v Speaker 1>set traps and field dress game and tan hides. Also

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<v Speaker 1>learned to make jerky and smoked fish and a smoker

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<v Speaker 1>that we made in camp. I know how to live

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<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of nowhere. In nineteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>my ex husband and I drove from spoke In to

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast Beach outside of Seattle to spend the

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<v Speaker 1>day and have some fun. It was off season, so

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<v Speaker 1>we had the beach to ourselves. The drive back was

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<v Speaker 1>long and we started late for home. We were both exhausted,

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<v Speaker 1>so we decided to make camp. On the way back.

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<v Speaker 1>We found a stretch of woods between the road and

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<v Speaker 1>the river. It was pretty far back in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>the state or county had set up a little camping

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<v Speaker 1>area with brick grills and stone picnic tables. Because it

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<v Speaker 1>was late in the year, it was getting chilly. No

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<v Speaker 1>one else was around, which meant it would be quiet

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<v Speaker 1>and peaceful. We set up our tent and we made

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<v Speaker 1>a fire and ate dinner, and then we went to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>And something woke me up at two am, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what it was. I lay there listening, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an animal of some sort was walking around the campsite.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wide awake now, but I couldn't hear anything now.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice before we went to sleep, but now

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<v Speaker 1>I was aware that there were no sounds of insects, birds,

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<v Speaker 1>or any other animals. It was just too quiet. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to convince myself that it was because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so cold out, and I tried to go back to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and the longer I laid there, the more antsy I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know why, but I was uncomfortable and I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared. It got so bad that I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get up and see if there was anything going on outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I climbed out of the tent, doing my best not

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<v Speaker 1>to wake my husband. He had a way of making

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like an idiot and laughing at me about

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Since I was already upset, I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I needed the extra burden of him picking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sat there at the picnic table, watching and listening,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't find anything wrong. Even so, this uneasy

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<v Speaker 1>feeling I had was getting worse. After thirty minutes with

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for my terror. Now i've thought about it

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<v Speaker 1>often over the years, and I've tried to work out

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<v Speaker 1>why the whole thing happened. Then, in twenty eleven, I

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<v Speaker 1>The river we can't buy was the Green River, and

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<v Speaker 1>we could see the bridge where he'd dumped one of

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<v Speaker 1>I was so afraid of that night, and could it

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<v Speaker 1>have been something to do with him or his victims.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had the gift of discernment that my little

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I would have been so afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of something that I couldn't see. After listening to your storytelling,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to wonder if that uncomfortable feeling was because

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<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch was nearby. It seems that others have felt

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<v Speaker 1>that way when they've had their experiences. I'll never know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a serial killer, was it a sasquatch or

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<v Speaker 1>was it just me? Gary Ridgeway was caught due in

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<v Speaker 1>part to the assistance of Ted Bundy. Bundy offered his help,

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately because of his advice, they caught Ridgeway. It

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<v Speaker 1>was nearly twelve years after Bundy died, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>by acting on Bundy's intricate knowledge and understanding of his

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<v Speaker 1>own kind that they were eventually able to arrest and

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<v Speaker 1>convict Ridgeway. Here's a story about a bigfoot in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really good and it's got some interesting twists

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of trivia with it. The writer

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<v Speaker 1>he actually writes it's a true experience by Posey Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know if he's the author or what.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, but I'm gonna read the story

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<v Speaker 1>he sent it. So when people send me a story,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume they wanted on the podcast. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing here. In nineteen fifty eight, my parents and

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<v Speaker 1>my siblings and I went to visit my grandmother's parents

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<v Speaker 1>who lived back in the mountains and rolling hills of Danville, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever it started to get dark, Grannie would say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for y'all to come inside now, because the wild

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<v Speaker 1>Man would be coming out soon. How do you like

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<v Speaker 1>that voice? I'm practicing on doing some voices. Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on. I was seven then and always imagined a skinny,

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<v Speaker 1>little unshaven cartoon cave man running around in the leopard

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<v Speaker 1>least that's what my older brother Chuck said it was

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<v Speaker 1>when I asked him about it the next day. As

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<v Speaker 1>gather some firewood. As we scoured the forest floor for

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<v Speaker 1>kindling and dry broken branches, Billy and Jimmy took to

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<v Speaker 1>showing us the various wild berries and plants and roots

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<v Speaker 1>and mushrooms that we could eat and those that were

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<v Speaker 1>poison us and that we should not even touch. We

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<v Speaker 1>came on a clearing that was surrounded by tall trees,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy said it would be better if we spread

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<v Speaker 1>out a bit and looked around. The truth is that

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<v Speaker 1>this was an adventure for Chuck and Ie, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was just another chore for them. Board they climbed the

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<v Speaker 1>two giant trees in the clearing and they watched Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>and Ie. As we did their work. I was assigned

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<v Speaker 1>the kindling, while Chuck was told to look for the

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<v Speaker 1>thicker branches. They knew that we wouldn't find anything in

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<v Speaker 1>in an eye on both of us at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time time. I was getting frustrated because I couldn't find anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went to the edge of the clearing

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<v Speaker 1>of twigs and branches, and I jumped down and I

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<v Speaker 1>I found myself not standing before a mound of twigs

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<v Speaker 1>and branches, but in front of what looked like an

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<v Speaker 1>igloo of woven branches and sticks, or a big upside

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<v Speaker 1>down burd nest. I immediately started to call for Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a matter of seconds, he and my two

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<v Speaker 1>cousins were standing at the top of the bank. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all out of breath and pale with worry as

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<v Speaker 1>they looked down at me. What the hell are you

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<v Speaker 1>screaming like that for, Billy asked, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a damn snake. It got a hold of you, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>scolded me. They had gotten there so fast that it

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<v Speaker 1>startled me. They must have started to run toward me

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<v Speaker 1>when they saw me jump down off the bank. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you come down here for, anyway, Chuck asked, between gasp.

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<v Speaker 1>Look look what I found, I said, happily, pointing to

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<v Speaker 1>my discovery. I ran over and started to crawl into

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<v Speaker 1>the opening. Boy, get your ass out of there, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>screamed to me. That could be a bear cave. That

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no bear cave, I encountered. You can look right

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<v Speaker 1>through the branches and you can see there's nothing in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the bear might be coming back. We need to go,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy said, ending the conversation. Let's go. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>got enough wood. Anyway. We never spoke about it again

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<v Speaker 1>after that, but it's like anything strange that happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it never left my mind. What was that thing

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<v Speaker 1>and who had built it? For years afterwards, it would

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<v Speaker 1>cross my mind. And then last year on Monster Quest

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<v Speaker 1>they did a program on what they call the grass

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<v Speaker 1>people or the Grassman of Ohio, which was another name

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<v Speaker 1>used for Bigfoot like creatures. I was cooking and not

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<v Speaker 1>really watching it until they flashed a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I found that day out in the woods with Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy and Jimmy. There's also a documentary called Southern Fried Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>and in it they talk about the fact that Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of different names boogers, wildman, skunk apes,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the locality it is being seen in, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is all the same or similar creatures. The name

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<v Speaker 1>they commonly use for it in Virginia is the wild Man.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, when you enter Danville, there's a sign that says,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Danville, Home of the Bigfoot. Well, shouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>say home of the wild Man? If they use I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. He gives a link for the Monster Quest

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Grassman Part one video. I guess it's a YouTube video,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's also a Monster Quest Ohio Grassman Part two,

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<v Speaker 1>Legend of Boggie Creek. Now, how could it be The

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Grassman Part two? The Legend of Boggy Creek Boggy

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<v Speaker 1>Creek in Arkansas. I don't know. There's a few things

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<v Speaker 1>in there that just kind of confuse me. However, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good The meat of the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>a good story. The shelter that he found that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>those things don't just build themselves out there in the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's either a person going out there, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe being creative, or it's some kind of animal that

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<v Speaker 1>is able to use its hands and actually build a structure,

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<v Speaker 1>because no other animal, save a monkey, can build those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things because they don't have hands and arms

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate things. I mean, raccoons do, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough to bend those type of limbs. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what other animal has hands. Possums kind of do, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they use them for manipulate them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know raccoons do because they clean their food and

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they feed themselves with their hands. Bears

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<v Speaker 1>have pauls, but they don't really use them to manipulate things.

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<v Speaker 1>They just use them to capture and climb and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Anyway, my mind is just wondering, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>rambling on all that to say, this was a great

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<v Speaker 1>story and I really appreciate the man sending it. Thank you, sir.