1 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: So here we go. Welcome to the Big Podcast. Hi, 2 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:31,879 how are you doing? Happy Friday? On this thirtieth day 3 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,799 of January. Wrapped this month up pretty quickly. Year of 4 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,119 Our Lord twenty twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan. 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:45,079 And no, really wasn't New Year's like a couple of 6 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,520 days ago. So we locked. We got a lot to 7 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,039 go over today. I guess we could start, certainly not 8 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:55,000 the most important. You're always supposed to start with the 9 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:56,759 most important story, but this is the one that is 10 00:00:56,759 --> 00:01:00,719 the most timely because of the government's supposed to down 11 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:08,799 at midnight tonight. And I don't know, does anybody really care? 12 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,040 This is they have agreed to Basically, they have these 13 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,079 various appropriation bills and they've passed a bunch of them, 14 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:21,120 but they have six more to go, and so they've 15 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:24,680 agreed to do five of the six and then the 16 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,319 sixth one is a Department of Homeland Security, and they 17 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,120 don't want to fund that because they because of ICE. 18 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:34,840 But we've talked about it over and over. Now others 19 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,040 are mentioning it as well that ICE has already been 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,439 funded from the Big Beautiful Bill. They've got their money 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:48,400 until twenty twenty nine. So you can do. They also 22 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,920 have a that's crazy in Minneapolis today. They've got something 23 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:59,400 called the National shutdown strike, and they got a pretty 24 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:03,239 decent crowd in Minneapolis that are walking the streets and 25 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 holding up most of the signs looked like they professionally 26 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 made most of them say the same things. But regardless, 27 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,159 the people are out and it's cold, and they're they're 28 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:14,199 it looks like a fairly nice day, but a cold 29 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,199 day in Minneapolis. And I don't know what the shutdown 30 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,759 is supposed to do either. I don't understand the Democrats 31 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,080 wanting to not fund Department of Homeland Security because they 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,919 want to hurt ICE, and yet ICE has already been funded, 33 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:33,719 So by not funding DHS, they're not they're not accomplishing it. 34 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Nothing drives me crazier than somebody who doesn't accomplish anything 35 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,159 in their job. And that's what they're doing. They're just 36 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:49,520 they're just pouting. I guess, so the national shut down, 37 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,039 there's no national shutdown strike today in Minneapolis, that's what 38 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:56,439 they're calling it. But the same thing, who are they hurting? 39 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,960 Are they hurting Ice? 40 00:02:58,319 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: No? 41 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: Are they hurting the merchants? Yes? Are they hurting people 42 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,080 that are out on the street their employers. Yes, I 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,759 would assume the employers would not pay them for today, 44 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,800 but hey, everybody does their own thing. Mark Wayne Mullen, 45 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:22,560 the Republican senator from Oklahoma, was asked about this whole 46 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:23,520 government shutdown. 47 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:27,719 Speaker 3: Then we're still kind of negotiating through this process. The 48 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:32,240 Democrats aren't really negotiating good faith. Their demands for DHS 49 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,400 is unreasonable. I mean, you walll Ago, you showed a 50 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:37,840 clip of Patty Murray. Patty Murray even said earlier this 51 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,680 week that shutting down DHS doesn't prevent ICE from doing 52 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,719 their job. In fact, it only prevents people from getting 53 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:47,879 relief from FEMA. And so what the Democrats are proposing 54 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,879 is ridiculous. If we shut down DHS, first of all, 55 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:54,879 that's only about three percent of the government. ICE is 56 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,240 still going to be funded for the next three or 57 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,520 four years because of appropriations we put in on one 58 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,240 big beautiful bill. What it does shut down is FEMA, 59 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,680 it shuts down Seekert Service, it shuts down TSA, and 60 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:10,960 it shuts down our Coastguard. And so we're trying to 61 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,479 get a hand passed. President Trump has come out and said, listen, 62 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,199 I'll work with Chuck Schumer. I'll work with the Democrats. 63 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,360 I'll do what we can, but what the likely path 64 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,839 is will probably end up having to spin off the 65 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,639 five bills, which will fund roughly ninety six ninety seven 66 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:28,160 percent of the government, and then we're trying to do 67 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,439 at least a short term cr for two to four weeks, 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,399 possibly we've asked for actually six weeks, and try to 69 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:42,759 work out their differences here. It's actually absurd with this 70 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,879 political theater that the Democrats are doing here with DHS. 71 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: It does seem like theater to me too, but that's 72 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:53,399 what they want to do, and then they'll try and 73 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,079 point the fingers and say it's the Republican's fault. It 74 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:59,000 doesn't matter to me. I don't know. Maybe you care. 75 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:03,240 I'm not all that interested. But because of the deadline 76 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:06,199 is tonight, I thought we would at least start with that. 77 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,519 We have a lot of court hearings today, and I thought, well, 78 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,600 we'll get these knocked off as well, because it does 79 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:19,120 seem strange of what's going on in court. Let's start 80 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,079 with did you hear the Don Lemon, the former CNN? 81 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,319 What was his show ten o'clock at night? It had 82 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,560 very well it doesn't matter. He was he was let go. 83 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,160 They tried to put him in the mornings, that did 84 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:39,240 not work. So he's looking for something to do to 85 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:43,920 make a living, and so he's he's proclaimed that he 86 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,800 is a journalist and this will be this will come 87 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,160 out in the wash. Did he coordinate with the group 88 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,360 that went in the protesters that went in and disrupted 89 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:59,360 the church service a couple of weeks ago in Saint 90 00:05:59,439 --> 00:06:03,759 Paul Minism there was the protesters went in, and there 91 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,519 is a law that says you can't do that. You 92 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,720 can't do that to abortion clinics or the churches. And 93 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,560 so if he went in to report on it after 94 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:18,519 they were already in there, or did he coordinate with 95 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,879 them so we could go in with them, I think 96 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,439 that's going to make a big difference. Because he proclaims 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,519 that he is a journalist, and so they arrested him 98 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:32,720 this morning and three others that are so called journalist. 99 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:36,279 But maybe I come from a different world, but the 100 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:40,600 world that I live in, I'm not a journalist. I've 101 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:43,959 been in the media for a long long time. I 102 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:49,600 am not a journalist. I am an opinionated talk show host, 103 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:54,040 podcast host. That's what he is. The people that are 104 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:58,199 on it on any of the cable channels at night, 105 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:04,720 I don't consider themjournalists. They're opinion people. I mean, Colbert 106 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 likes to think of himself as as a journalist. He's not. 107 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:13,199 He's an opinionated talk show host. The people that write 108 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:19,199 the opinion columns for newspapers, in my estimation, are not journalists. 109 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:23,720 Journalists are people that go out and report on the 110 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,120 facts of a story. They get both sides, they report 111 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,079 what they know and that's it. They leave their opinion 112 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,680 out of it. But anyway, so Don Lemon has been 113 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,839 arrested and I don't know what the status is. He 114 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:43,199 was arrested last night in Los Angeles, and like I said, 115 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,759 there's three others and you would think CNN was there 116 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,319 squawking like a stuck pig today all about how he's 117 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,240 a journalist and how you know journal Even if you 118 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:57,600 are a journalist, which I dispute in this case, you 119 00:07:57,639 --> 00:07:59,920 can't go in. You can't break the law. A journalist 120 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 doesn't give you some special card that says I can 121 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:09,279 avoid obeying the law. Can you imagine my old days 122 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:13,639 of highway protecting the highways and byways, Highway patrol, pull 123 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:17,040 somebody over and they show me their journalism card. I 124 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:23,279 would have laughed at them anyway. Jonathan Turtley, the law 125 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:27,920 professor of at George Washington University Law School, has this 126 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,759 to say about it. 127 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: Well, First of all, the Face Act itself does pose 128 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,679 jeopardy for all those arrested. The Attorney General of Minnesota, Allison, 129 00:08:36,759 --> 00:08:39,440 said that this only applies to abortion clinics. That was 130 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,639 completely false. It does apply to places of worship like this, 131 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,120 and in fact, when they have applied it to abortion clinics, 132 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,799 including Allison, they have adopted the broadest possible interpretation of 133 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,679 those criminal provisions. Now, with regard to Don Lemon, I 134 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,799 think that he has a claim here that he will 135 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,399 be he was acting as a journalist, and I think 136 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:07,600 a lot of judges are going to find that persuasive 137 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:13,840 because they tend to avoid really hitting that trip wire 138 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:17,480 when it comes to journalism. Now, the problem, of course, 139 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,279 is that Don Lemon really stretches that meaning that of 140 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,840 a journalist. He's one of these journalists believe in advocacy journalism, 141 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,919 which blurs again the line of what is a journalist 142 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:33,240 and what is an advocate. So that's going to end 143 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,480 up having to be litigated. Some of us have written 144 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,600 for years. I just wrote a book on this not 145 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,879 long ago, really contesting advocacy journalism is killing journalism in 146 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:47,240 the United States. He is really the face of that movement. 147 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:50,879 Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. There's so many people out there that 148 00:09:51,039 --> 00:09:56,200 claim that they are journalists, the whole advent of podcasts. 149 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,919 People say they have a radio show. No, they have 150 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,559 a podcast even close to being the same. They have YouTube, 151 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:05,480 YouTube show. Oh, I have a television show. 152 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:05,759 Speaker 5: No. 153 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: There's all these people claiming that there's something that by 154 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,320 general definition, historical definition, they are not. So we'll see 155 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 what happens with Don Lemon. He was supposed to show 156 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:19,000 up in court today. I don't know the results, but 157 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:26,080 he's hired Abby Lowell, very expensive Washington DC lawyer. I 158 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,399 hope he has saved his money from his days working, 159 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,840 because he really isn't been. He's been looking for attention 160 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:36,879 and this certainly will give him some. You know who 161 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Jose Antonio Ibara is probably not. He's the guy who 162 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:49,679 was charged and convicted of killing Lake and Riley. Remember 163 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,519 her twenty two year old University of Georgia student who 164 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,399 was out jogging and he is from I remember, right, Venezuela. 165 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:01,440 It was in the country illegally. Well, he's been convicted 166 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,080 of murdering her, so today he demands a new trial. 167 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,159 Brian Claypool, who is a defense lawyer, explains what his 168 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,759 claim is. 169 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: Look, the software used by prosecutors in this case is 170 00:11:19,159 --> 00:11:23,279 called true TRUELL and what does that mean. It is 171 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:29,320 a probabilistic geneo typing type of software. It's used when 172 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 you don't have adequate DNA marcists, where you have scant 173 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,080 DNA that cannot be tied directly to somebody, then you 174 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,200 use this software instead to create a probability that somebody's 175 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:46,000 DNA matches the crime scene. And what happened in a 176 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,519 Barr's case is this information wasn't shared quickly with defense lawyers. 177 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:53,080 Defense lawyers were not allowed to hire an expert to 178 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,720 challenge it. And I think one of the issues here, 179 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:59,120 and it might have traction for a new trial, is 180 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:02,440 that this is based on algorithms, right, kind of like 181 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 what you see on social media. And the problem here 182 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:08,399 is their secret this is like secret evidence, and that 183 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,440 it's not be shared with anybody because it trademarks. So 184 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,919 I think there's a due process argument here for Ibara 185 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:20,000 that that information needs to be shared with his lawyers 186 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:23,480 so they can challenge it on cross examination. Because there's 187 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,000 been a lot of bugs that have been determined as 188 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,840 well in this Typler software. 189 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,279 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I think Jose Antonio Orbara should 190 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,679 spend the rest of his life in jail, if not worse. 191 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,039 But if they were using some kind of phony Baloni 192 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:42,879 software to convict him, what's wrong with these prosecutors using 193 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,000 this stuff? So he may wind up getting a new 194 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:50,000 trial even though everybody in their brother knows he killed 195 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,799 Lake and Riley. They had evidence up the yin ye 196 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,279 one more court case that also is a head scratcher. Luigi, Yeah, 197 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,039 Luigi was back in court here in New York today. 198 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:07,480 The guy who was charged with murdering Brian Thompson, the 199 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,960 former CEO of United Healthcare, gunned him down, shot him 200 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,240 in the back on West fifty fourth Street outside the 201 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Hilton Hotel. And it was all because of the fact 202 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,759 that he has beef with insurance companies, even though he 203 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:26,200 did not have a policy with United Healthcare. But he 204 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,960 figured out where Brian Thompson was, where he was going 205 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,639 to be. They publicized it on their website. They were 206 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:38,120 going to have the annual investors conference at the Hilton 207 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:42,559 Hotel in December of twenty twenty four, the date, the time, everything, 208 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,759 and so Luigi set out to basically stock Mister Thompson 209 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:51,200 waited across the street. They have video of him sitting 210 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,879 over there. This is like six o'clock in the morning, 211 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,240 it's dark, it's cold, but he was waiting for Brian Thompson. 212 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:02,639 Brian Thompson came walking down the street and Luigi allegedly 213 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:07,600 recognized him. You've seen the videotape. He steps out and 214 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,440 as soon as mister Thompson walks by, he shoots them 215 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,799 in the back. Thompson falls, He walks over and shoots 216 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,519 them two more times. We see it on videotape. We 217 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,759 see the murder. And yet a judge today decided that 218 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:27,960 the murder charge was not going to be allowed. Donald Rotuna, 219 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:30,720 who was not on this case but as a defense lawyer, 220 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,440 was talking before the judge's ruling. 221 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:36,399 Speaker 7: What the judge is going to have to rule on 222 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:41,080 is whether or not this stalking element rises to the 223 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,200 level of a violent crime, which then raises this to 224 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,360 the level of the murder with the firearm. That is 225 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,759 then a capital offense. 226 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Pardon me for my ignorance about the law. But stalking 227 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 somebody so that you can shoot them in the back 228 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,799 three times see to me like that is a violent thing. 229 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:08,080 But apparently Paul Morrow was in the courtroom today to 230 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,120 find out more about this case. 231 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:12,759 Speaker 8: So as we spoke about after the last hearing, the 232 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:16,679 atmospheric certainly seemed from the judge that those two counts 233 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:18,840 were going to go. The way it is set up 234 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,240 at the federal level is to get a murder charge, 235 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,960 you need what's called the federal hook. That is to say, 236 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,399 you need another crime of violence that admits the murder charge. 237 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,000 The decision by the judge was that stalking is not 238 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,320 a crime of violence. It can be in some instances, 239 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,440 but apparently not here. She decided that it is not 240 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:41,080 a crime of violence that takes out the murder charge 241 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:44,639 that carried the debt penalty. The two charges that remain, however, 242 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,639 do carry life imprisonment without parole. The other decision was 243 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:53,519 that she denied the defense's motion to suppress the evidence 244 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:56,519 from the bag that man Gione was carrying. So the 245 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:59,919 bag containing the pistol and the manifesto, all of that 246 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,200 coming in, but as of now, no death penalty. 247 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:04,759 Speaker 1: All right, So they don't want to do the death penalty, 248 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:09,039 but I mean to throw out the murder charge. Did 249 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:15,240 I not see that murder on videotape? I thought I 250 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:21,000 saw a murder. I must have been confused. So Carrie Urban, 251 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:25,799 who's also she's a DC lawyer, she weighed in as well, Oh. 252 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 9: So interestingly in her rationale and the decision, she says, 253 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,639 I realized this. She basically says, I realize this is absurd, 254 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,679 and I realize this is counterintuitive and there's no denying 255 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,960 that this was violent conduct. And then she blames the 256 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Supreme Court and says, but I'm bound by what previous 257 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,960 courts have said. And this is where it gets complicated 258 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 and very technical. So the stalking statute issue, and the 259 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:47,759 stalking was necessary in order to get the death penalty. 260 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:48,879 It was part of the other charge. 261 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,159 Speaker 2: Right. 262 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 9: It talks about causing fear and emotional distress. That's not 263 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,440 the same as physical violence. And since the crime of 264 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:01,480 violence was essential to get the death penalty, there had 265 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,720 to be a second thing, and that's what they attached 266 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,599 to the murder through the firearm. There had to be 267 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,359 a crime of violence. She's saying, well, the statute doesn't 268 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:12,119 say that this has to be violence. It can be 269 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,519 fear that's not violence. It can be emotional distress that's 270 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:18,640 not violent. Stalking doesn't have to be violent, therefore it's 271 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,599 not a crime of violence. Therefore, if that fails, then 272 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,240 the charge is attached. Tould fail and here we are 273 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,160 with no death penalty. 274 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: This is exasperating. It makes a mockery of the law. 275 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,759 The man was murdered. We saw it on videotape. He 276 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,799 was shot three times in the back, and there wasn't 277 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,799 a predicate of violence. What is shooting somebody in the 278 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:43,279 back if that isn't violence? 279 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 9: Because the issue here is not that he was shot 280 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,400 dead in cold blood on the street, it's that the 281 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:54,680 prosecutors were trying to get the death penalty. In order 282 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,279 to get the death penalty, which is a sentencing enhancement, 283 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,640 it's like enhancing the charge. There had to be a 284 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 second crime, a crime of violence. The crime of violence 285 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:05,279 they chose was stalking. If you read the text of 286 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:07,720 the statute, there's not violence in it. 287 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 7: So did they make a mistake? 288 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 5: Should they not have pursuit. 289 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,559 Speaker 9: So I think it's what fit the best, and I 290 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:13,519 would actually and I want to point something out here. 291 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:15,400 You know, it was the Biden DOJ that brought these 292 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,319 charges initially, and they intentionally chose this approach. But I 293 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,240 believe they chose it because doing it this way allowed 294 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,880 the prosecution to ask for the death penalty, which is 295 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,200 what Pambondi did. And that's notable because to my recollection, 296 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:31,319 I think Mark Garland only asked for the death penalty 297 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,359 in one other case, so they knew how So this 298 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,279 is a bipartisan effort, I would say, from both the 299 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:39,640 Biden administration and the Trump administration to bring justice to 300 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,240 this guy and these families in the way of the 301 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,079 death penalty and the judge through it out. 302 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: So you can see, they're making it next to impossible 303 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:50,240 to get the death penalties. What they're doing that that 304 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:52,920 shooting you somebody three times in the back isn't violence, 305 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,400 I don't know what is. Why can't the judge just say, okay, 306 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,839 you're guilty of murder and in the sentencene, I'm going 307 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,640 to and she her death. But that apparently isn't the 308 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,559 way the law works, which again is making a mockery 309 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,279 of what you and I saw with our own two eyes. 310 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,519 This isn't exactly a court case, but it's close to one. 311 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:21,119 Kind of surprising because today Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General, 312 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,480 came out and said, because they've been getting a lot 313 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:29,240 of heat about the Epstein documents, and they said, I 314 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:31,640 guess a week or two ago they said, we've got 315 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,400 a million more to go. Well, today Todd Blanche came 316 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,400 out and said, there you go. Here's your every file 317 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:43,359 that we have in the government on Epstein. Here's what 318 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Blanche had to say. 319 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:49,079 Speaker 10: On November nineteenth, twenty twenty five, directing the Department of 320 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,200 Justice to produce all documents, files, records, videos and images 321 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,440 related to the investigations and prosecutions of Jeffrey Epstein, and 322 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:04,160 just laying I'm here today to talk about the Department's 323 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,160 compliance with its production obligations under the Act. Around I 324 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,799 think right now and continuing throughout the day to day 325 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,400 as the indexing and uploading completes, we are producing responsive 326 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,519 materials under the Act. We are also releasing today a 327 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:25,920 letter we are transmitting to Congress, and various internal protocols 328 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,799 associated with our review. I want to take a moment 329 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,440 to thank the professionals at the Department of Justice who 330 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:37,599 met twice daily, sometimes more, for the last seventy five 331 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:42,279 days to get to where we are today. The leadership 332 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:44,920 teams from the Office of the Attorney General, from the 333 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Deputy turn of General's Office, the Associate Attorney General's Office, 334 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,480 the Criminal Division, the National Security Division, the FBI, the 335 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,039 Southern disc of Florida, the Southern of New York, and 336 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,200 the Northern disc of New York all gave up many 337 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,799 hours every single day on top of their other, of course, 338 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,240 full time obligations, to fulfill the President Trump's promise of 339 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:12,680 transparency to the American people. I also want to think 340 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,839 that more than five hundred lawyers and professionals across all 341 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,839 those divisions that I just mentioned, and others who worked 342 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,200 long days, nights, weekends, Christmas, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, nights, weekends, 343 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,359 and holidays to complete this production. These highly trained reviewers 344 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:37,119 spend their careers putting bad guys in jail and effectuating 345 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,680 the mission of the Department, and to a person, they 346 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,799 work tirelessly to protect victims and comply with the Act 347 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,240 since its passage. So thank you to all of them. 348 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so they had a lot of people, and they 349 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,480 did a lot of work, and they work Christmas and 350 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:57,839 New Year's and everything else. What did they produce today? 351 00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 10: Today we are producing more than three million pages, including 352 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,400 more than two thousand videos and one hundred and eighty 353 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,640 thousand images in total. That means that the department produced 354 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,400 approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with 355 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,000 the Act. Just a quick note about the videos and images. 356 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,079 The two thousand videos and one hundred and eighty thousand 357 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,440 images are not all videos and images taken by mister 358 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,039 Epstein or someone around him. They include large quantities of 359 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,640 commercial pornography and images that were seized from Epstein's devices 360 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,319 but which he did not take, or that someone around 361 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,119 him did not take. Some of the videos though, and 362 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,160 some of the images do appear to be taken by 363 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,359 mister Epstein or by others or around him. 364 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's wise. They did not disclose the commercial porn. 365 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,599 But I wonder what when you look at who in 366 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,359 their right mind is going to spend the time to 367 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:08,200 go through three million pages, three and a half million 368 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:14,480 pages of documents, two thousand videos, one hundred and eighty 369 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:19,079 thousand photos, I'm sure there will be a few people assigned, 370 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,920 some rookies that the bottom of the of the latter 371 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,400 in the media, that will be assigned to go through 372 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,960 all this stuff. But nobody's going to be looking through 373 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,960 all this thame. I think people already have their assumptions 374 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,839 on what kind of person Epstein was, So I think 375 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,160 the big debate isn't about the fact that he was 376 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,200 a creep. The big debate is about how did he die. 377 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,839 I still stay with the fact that and the reason 378 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,799 I say this is because the former New York medical 379 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:56,200 examiner was at the autopsy said this guy died, it 380 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,839 was murdered. He didn't die of suicide. So that's still 381 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,880 also probably will never ever be answered. So those are 382 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:11,119 court cases, a lot of them today. What about Minnesota? 383 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,839 So last night Christinome came out and talked about was 384 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,759 asked about the fact that she made that statement that 385 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:26,079 was ridiculously wrong and full of error about what happened 386 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:33,359 when not only Renee Good but also with Alex Petrie. 387 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,759 But so she was asked about it last night, I thought, 388 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,759 I played this is her answer to why her information 389 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,720 was so wrong. 390 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 5: That situation was very chaotic, and that we were being 391 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,279 relayed information from on the ground, from CBP agents and 392 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:52,799 officers that were there. We were using the best information 393 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,720 we had at the time, seeking to be transparent with 394 00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:58,799 the American people and get them what we knew to 395 00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:01,279 be true on the ground. We believe that we can 396 00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:03,400 always do better, and we seek to do that every 397 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,319 single day, and we want to make sure that we 398 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,519 not only improve protocols on the ground in chaotic and 399 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:13,279 volatile situations like this, but that we continue to find 400 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,599 the truth around this situation and get the facts to 401 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,480 the American people. And I'm grateful that the President had 402 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,240 the wisdom to send Tom Holman in there to have 403 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:24,200 conversations again to see if he can get the leaders 404 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:29,160 of Governor Walls and Mayor Fry to commit to honoring 405 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,519 our detainers and to keeping our officers safe while they 406 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,519 do their work. We've been asking them to do this 407 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,920 for months. They have refused to agree. We're hoping that 408 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Tom has an opportunity to restart those conversations and see 409 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,400 if we can get them to help clean up the 410 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,920 streets of Minneapolis. 411 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,039 Speaker 1: A lot to impact from what she just said. First 412 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:49,720 of all, she first started off with it was chaotic. Well, 413 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,920 if it was chaotic, that should be a red flashy 414 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,039 light to just hold off until you have better information. 415 00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:01,960 Don't go blab in your mouth until you have Just 416 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:05,680 tell people we are we're gathering information. We will let 417 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,799 you know when we know. Then she immediately went, this 418 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,640 is why she's why I don't care for her. She 419 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,240 has not an ounce of leadership skills. She blamed the 420 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:24,559 officers in Minneapolis for giving her bad information. That's what 421 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:28,200 she did. Did you ever hear her say I apologize. 422 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:33,759 Did you hear her say I am sorry? She instead 423 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,279 said it was chaotic and we got information from the field, 424 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:42,400 from the officers in the field, and it turns out 425 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:49,319 she's blaming them. What a loser. She has no leadership skills, 426 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:54,880 I mean none. It's fascinating that with the positions that 427 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,440 she has held that she hasn't obtained a little bit 428 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,519 of leadership skills. But I don't see it. Carlos Amanez, 429 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:09,720 who is the former mayor of Miami Dade and also 430 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,200 a congressman from South Florida. He is a Republican, and 431 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,920 he says he shared with the President his comments about Christinome. 432 00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:24,839 Speaker 11: Well, I think I've voiced my concerns in my opposition 433 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,039 to the crackdown. I mean, look, I have no problem 434 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,319 with deporting criminals. I have no problem with deporting gang members. 435 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,839 I have no absolutely no problem deporting people that have 436 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,799 active deportation orders. I do have a problem in deporting 437 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,240 you know, grandmothers and people that have been here for 438 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,559 a number of years. I think there's got to be 439 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:46,160 a better way. And so I think the American people 440 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,200 voted for securing the border than arresting gang members and 441 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,119 criminals and people active deportation orders. I don't think they 442 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,119 voted for the extent to which the ICE operations have 443 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,200 have panned out so far. I've expressed that to the administration, 444 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,839 and I think that we need to find a better way, 445 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,000 a more reasonable way, because look, frankly, you're not going 446 00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,960 to deport what twenty twenty million people. You can't and actually, 447 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,319 we need a lot of these folks to do jobs 448 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,839 here in the United States, and if you actually deport 449 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,319 them all, then labor costs are going to go up, 450 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,079 and actually is going to go against what we want 451 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:24,880 to do, which is actually drive down costs. And so 452 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,519 there has to be a compromise, and we need to 453 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,200 find it. I mean, you know, I actually had a 454 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,839 conversation with the President about three four weeks ago and said, look, 455 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:35,400 we need to do something. We need to we need 456 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,400 to alter the coast. It's not the course. I mean, 457 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,799 it's not changing one hundred and eighty degrees. There's a 458 00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:42,839 lot of the things that you're doing are absolutely correct, 459 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640 but there are you know, around the edges. There are 460 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640 some things that you know that are that are problematic 461 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400 and problematic for a number of reasons which I've just stated, 462 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,960 and we need to change that. And then he asked 463 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400 me to see who I could work something up for him. 464 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,839 Speaker 7: I have. 465 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,119 Speaker 11: I've sent it to the administration and I'm waiting a 466 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,079 response to see when we can go ahead and start 467 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:05,079 talking to them about changing Look, you know what Homan 468 00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:09,000 did in Minneapolis yesterday and what he said, but he 469 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,920 was he's kind of changing the way that ice is 470 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,799 working up there. I think that's kind of indicative to 471 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,119 me that there's going to be a course correction here 472 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,319 and it's going to happen pretty soon. 473 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,279 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, because even though Tom Holman said he 474 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,400 had a good meeting with Minneapolis and Minnesota officials yesterday, 475 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,519 today they're backcracking, going no, no, no, no no, We're 476 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:34,079 not going to release anybody to Ice from our jails. 477 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,440 So we'll see how that turns out. But they basically 478 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:43,359 are stabbing Tom Homan in the back today. The FED 479 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,759 announcement came out today. President said he was going to 480 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,960 make a FED chairman announcement before the end of the month. 481 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,079 Last night he was at an event for the Milania 482 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,319 movie and he was asked about it. 483 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: What exactly tip that person over the. 484 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,319 Speaker 2: Edge as you say it tomorrow, But just an outstanding 485 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,680 person and a person that will be too surprising to people. 486 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640 A lot of people, a lot of people think that 487 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,359 this is somebody that could have been there a few 488 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,920 years ago. It's going to be somebody that is very respected, 489 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,680 somebody that's known to everybody in the financial world. And 490 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,000 I think it's going to be a very good choice. 491 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,839 Speaker 1: So that was last night and today he made the pick. 492 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:34,680 Kevin Walsh. Kevin Walsh is already a former FED governor. 493 00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,240 He was a member of the FED Governor's Group back 494 00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,680 in two thousand and six to twenty eleven. That was 495 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,759 during the meltdown, the financial crisis of two thousand and eight. 496 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,960 And he was part of that. He had been appointed 497 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,160 to the FED by George W. Bush, one of the 498 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,720 youngest members ever to serve on the board. He also 499 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,720 was a critic of the FED when he left the 500 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,200 FED Reserve, and he said, look at this large scale 501 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,720 asset purchases not good. Near zero interest rates had run 502 00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:14,400 the risk of distorting markets and undermining long term price stability. 503 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:18,680 And he was absolutely right. He voted against the second 504 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,119 round of FED bond buying, known as quantitative easing. He 505 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,440 is a professor at a Stanford. He got his undergrad 506 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,359 degree at Stanford. He went on to get a law 507 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,039 degree from Harvard. So he's got all the pedigree. But 508 00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:39,960 in addition to all of that, he married into the 509 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,400 Estay Lauder family. His wife is the heir of the 510 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:51,960 Estay Lauder company. So yes, lots of money and good 511 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,480 education and is well liked in the financial world. So 512 00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,079 I got to give President Trump but kudos on this one. 513 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,480 I think he is an excellent choice to be the 514 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:08,480 FED chairman. So before we finished one funny and one 515 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,039 oh bit on the funny side, President Trump was talking 516 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,279 during the cabinet meeting. I think it was just during 517 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,279 the cabinet meeting. He was talking about the fact that 518 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,000 reporters are saying that he falls asleep at these at 519 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,279 all kinds of different meetings, but this is Yeah. He 520 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,319 brought it up at the cabinet meeting about why he 521 00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,000 closes his eyes as he says. 522 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: They had a press conference. It lasted for three hours, 523 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:39,240 and some people said he closed his eyes. Look, it 524 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,440 got pretty boring. In all things, I love these meetings. 525 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,440 I love these there's a lot of people. It was 526 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,160 a little bit at the boring side. But I didn't sleep. 527 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,680 I just closed him because I wanted to get the 528 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,079 hell out of here some of them, and I didn't sleep, 529 00:32:58,079 --> 00:32:59,640 By the way, I don't sleep much. 530 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,359 Speaker 1: Okay, A for honesty at least to the point where 531 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,240 it was kind of a funny thing about the fact 532 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160 that the meeting was boring and he wanted to get 533 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,000 the heck out of there. On the obt side, Katherine O'Hara, 534 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:16,839 I don't know if you know her name. I did 535 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,359 not until I saw who it was. Katherine O'Hara was 536 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,400 the mom in Home Alone, and she was also in 537 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,000 She had quite a movie career. She was in Beatlejuice. 538 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,799 What else was she in. Oh yeah, she's also one 539 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:40,039 of the stars in Shit's Creek, A Nightmare Before Christmas. 540 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,759 The list goes on and on and on. Anyway, a 541 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,920 very brief illness. She passed away at her home in 542 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,759 Los Angeles, seventy one years of age. Sagoon Odowalu is 543 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,200 a Hollywood entertainment reporter. 544 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,119 Speaker 12: Well, morton't be right that this is such a gay 545 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,319 in Hollywood, because Captain o'howar was funny in multiple countries. 546 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,799 She came from Canada and in the eighties was part 547 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:12,360 of SCTV, a comedy troupe that included John Candy, Rick 548 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,119 Moranis Martin short you know, and Eugene Levy, who she 549 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:21,320 would work with numerous times throughout her career. And she 550 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,119 was timeless in a way where maybe you knew her 551 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,119 from Tim Burton movies like Beetlejuice, or you knew her 552 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,920 from the Home Alone movies, or from Shit's Creek, or 553 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,639 from the Christopher Guest improv movies like Best in Show, 554 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,400 which is still one of my favorite movies. She touched 555 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,320 so many aspects of Hollywood television screen and then worked 556 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,639 with people like Seth Rogen on the studio that was 557 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,840 on Apple TV and cleaned up at the Emmys. She 558 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,559 will be missed. She was immensely talented and just wildly funny. 559 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: The other part about that which I kind of perked 560 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480 up my ears. So many people were saying, and she 561 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,159 was so young, she passed away at seventy one, way 562 00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:08,559 too early, and I'm thinking, yes, I agree. So Wall 563 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:12,920 Street today market's decided to sell off a little bit 564 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,800 the now Jones industrials down one hundred seventy nine to 565 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,440 forty eight thousand and eight, ninety two, SIP down twenty nine, 566 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,599 NAZDAC down two hundred and twenty three, Gold after having 567 00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:30,480 some enormously big gains in the last week, down four 568 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,000 hundred and forty one dollars today to four thoy nine thirteen, 569 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:39,840 and Oil up another thirty cents or so just under 570 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:44,400 sixty six dollars for one barrel of oil. Thank you 571 00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,800 for coming by today, Have yourself a wonderful weekend. We 572 00:35:47,920 --> 00:36:00,440 will be back on Monday. Hope to see you then,