Speaker 1: All right, Lodo three Sports Talk seven ninety, it is
a matt ross with you.
Speaker 2: We've got Astros baseball a day game.
Speaker 1: Of course, we want you to listen to radio, but
if you happen to be watching it on television later today,
at some point you're going to see at least at
eleven thirty or to twelve thirty the Brian bogasvic led
to pregame show along with Kevin heshenfielder.
Speaker 2: Bogie's at the ballpark right now? What a huge weight
off of the shoulders of the Astros.
Speaker 1: And you would never say that after losing four straight
games to Oakland into or to the A's and to
the Nationals, but it certainly happened last night, Bogie.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, it felt like it was getting to the
point to where they needed one, not just for the standings,
but just to kind of let everybody breathe a little bit.
You know, that stuff starts piling up, especially this time
of year when the season's kind of dragging to begin with,
and then you have Texas making a move in Seattle
playing well it was. It was a much needed one
win last night, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So what is this time of year like in
the clubhouse Before we get to the actual particular players.
You have been in a major league clubhouses for part
of your life, and you've been around on July thirty
first or so, what's what is it like for everyone,
whether their names are being mentioned or not.
Speaker 3: It's it's anxious, it's exciting. You know, there's always you know,
the opportunity for the unknown, and you know, it's it's
much more exciting to be in a clubhouse for a
team where you're thinking they're going to add and we're
all right, we're making the moves to go for it,
versus being in a clubhouse where it's you know, you're
kind of looking around and saying, am I going to
be gone? Are you going to be gone? Who's going
to be here tomorrow? But yeah, it's just it's a
strange time, you know it Just imagine being in your
office on any given day knowing that you know there
are going to be some guys in and out here
in the next day or two. It just makes them
a little bit of angst. But at the same time,
it's an exciting time because you know, once once, once
you get past this, it's really like, okay, here, here's
who we are. And this is the home stretch.
Speaker 1: Now, do you feel like and not that you can
speak on every trade rumor that's out there, but do
you feel like this is agent driven because the agent
finds out through reporters that their names are being banned about.
Because I would assume that most general managers, unless they're
just trying to float her name out there, wouldn't be
calling their favorite Major League Baseball Network reporter and saying, hey,
I want to mention this guy's a trade possibility.
Speaker 3: No, I think I think everything that gets out gets
out for a reason, and it's and it's agents trying
to steer teams into steer their players into what they
think to be better situations. Or it could be teams
trying to you know, throw some smoke out there and
throw people off their scent of who's available and who's not.
But yeah, a lot of the stuff that gets out there, uh,
is out there for a reason, and it's not usually
because anybody's trying to tip their hand as to what
they're doing.
Speaker 1: So if deals don't get made, tell me what that
that clubhouse is like. For instance, let's talk about just
throw Dylan Ceese's name out there. He's been associated with
a variety of teams, including the Astros. What if Dylan
See states to the San Diego Padre, what's his mindset
it's supposed to be if he still has a Padre,
say in two days from now.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't know. You know that
that it really affects guys all of all that much.
You know, maybe maybe young players who who are going
through it for the first time or hearing about it
and seeing it for the first time, it might shake
them a little bit. But a veteran, I mean, Dylan
See it feels like his name has been in trade
talks ever since he got to the Major League, So
so a guy in that type of situation, you kind
of take it for what it is, you know, kind
of look at it as a teams think I'm valuable.
You know, teams are interested that that should be a
good thing for me personally, and if it happens, great,
and if it doesn't, you just go about your business.
It just kind of comes along with the territory at
some point. Eventually you just kind of get numb to
it all.
Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say about this before we get to
the particulars. You know, I've asked many people when I'm
covering NBA games and traveling, like, hey, what do you
hear about guys being traded?
Speaker 2: And the majority of them.
Speaker 1: Typically say, if I have my contract and I'm getting paid,
that has to come with the territory of you know what,
I may have to move at some point in my career.
Speaker 2: As long as the move, the check moves with me,
I'm gonna live with it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there there There are very few guys in
any sport who get into the situation where they're pretty
comfortable or confident thinking that they're going to be with
one franchise for their entire career. I mean, those guys
are very rare. It's because of their abilities and then
also just their stature within those organizations. Everybody else the
idea of moving from team to team. It's not ideal
during the season, you know, it's kind of a headache
from a personal standpoint, But in terms of from a
professional standpoint, everybody's under the assumption that they're probably going
to be changing teams one way or another at some point,
if not multiple times during their career, So the idea
of it isn't all that uh, you know, disruptive, but
but just on your day to day life when it
does actually happen, it's kind of kind of a pain.
Speaker 1: All right, bogeys with a prime bogusv xpacity network with
us here on the Sports Talk sevnty. So let's get
to the two players that are being talked about more
than anybody else, and we'll start with Dylan Cees. Walk
me through if you can a why the Potters would
make a move like that. There are four back of
the Dodgers in the West, they are the wild card team.
And then on the astro side, are we supposed to
context clue that maybe all these guys that are at
rehab and working on getting back from the Triple A,
that maybe the astros in the background on their mind
are thinking, maybe only one or two of them pan out,
that I need as many reinforcements as possible in my
starting rotation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm from the Padre standpoint. Why, you know,
if you need to make moves one way or the other,
if you've got to shore up one place of your
team or your organization has got to come from someone
somewhere else. So you know, usually you think of you know,
trading minor league prospects for major league talent, but sometimes
it's just trading from a place of strength or a
place of surplus and trying to add somewhere else. So
I don't know that it's necessarily red flagging somebody because
the team is willing to move off of them. It's
just kind of you know what they need or what
they want at any given time. I think from from
the from an astro standpoint, look, it's great that there
are guys who are coming back. It's great that there
are guys who are really close to being healthy and
going to be able to contribute at the major league level.
But you know, the fact of the matter is when
a guy's coming off a major surgery and a long layoff,
even when they get back, you don't know exactly what
you're going to get from a from a talent standpoint.
You don't know if they're going to be all the
way to one hundred percent. Just because you're activated, you
might not be all the way back to where you were.
You're certainly not going to be able to carry the
same workload as a guy who never went through that
or isn't coming off of an injury, and there's probably
going to be at the very least some inconsistency or
maybe some time when when your innings have to be managed.
So you know, I think, yes, getting a Christian Javier
or Luis Garcia back at some point it's going to
be additive. You add those guys into the mix, it's
certainly helpful, but it's just hard to really pin down
what exactly you can count on a guy for who's
coming off of a major.
Speaker 1: So you brought up those two guys and didn't bring
up Spencer Arraghedtty. And because it's a different situation, I
think Arragetty's not gonna have to worry about a governor
on him because it wasn't an army issue that got
him into trouble.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: If you were to put a hobbyer, and let's say
even JP Franz got in the mix, you're adding him,
You're adding Luis Scarci, You're adding three guys that are
gonna be on a pitch limit the rest of this year.
That'd be ridiculous to think they're going to be throwing
ninety ninety five mile pitches per game. Does that not
then tack your bullpen or does that make you livery
of going to a six man because you're going to
already be one guy short in the bullpen with maybe
three or four guys in your rotation that aren't going
to able to give you get you deep into games.
Speaker 3: No, you're certainly going to have to be wary of that,
you know, if you're going to have guys who are
going to be on a pitch count, first of all
for their total. Also you're talking about guys who are
going to be on pitch counts in terms of innings.
If you see one of those guys coming off of
a major surgery go out there and throw thirty plus
pitches in an inning, that's probably going to be it
for them, regardless of what their total was for the game.
So so you're talking about always having the potential for
a short start if you're already one guy short in
the pen because you're in a six man rotation, it
makes it really difficult. You certainly don't want to get
into a situation where you're throwing leverage relievers in non
leverage situations. That's that's taking away from a strength of
the team. So yeah, it's part of the calculus, and
part of that, you know, is who are the other
guys who are in the rotation? Can they be counted
on to go deep into games? And kind of balance
that out. Is Fromer going to be able to continue
to do what he's been doing? Is Hunter Brown, you know,
going to be able to get back to being as
efficient as he was and being six seven innings instead
of five or six innings. And you have to weigh
all of those things because you know, anytime you add
somebody into the roster, anytime you make a change to
the roster, the way the whole team functions is just
a little bit differently, and it's got to be accounted for.
Speaker 1: More minutes of Brian Bogacivich with us here on seven ninety.
All right, So let's get to Carlo's Crey. That's the
second name it's being brought up now. Obviously a lot
of that is because the thought to me is that
Essech Praties is not going to play anymore this year,
and you can insert Carl's creat third base right away.
So when you first heard the name, what were your
initial thoughts? And then, just like we do here on
the radio, we'd hard to doce things. So what does
an early Brian bocas off a deduction say about why
there is apparent interest between the Astros and trying to
acquire their former shortstop.
Speaker 3: Well, I think why there would be initial interest is
quite obvious, right, it would fill an immediate need. It
could you know, could fill an immediate need. It's a
guy who you certainly know what you're getting in terms
of the clubhouse and on the field, and just anytime
AA player of that caliber starts getting mentioned as being available,
and certainly when it's a guy who means as much
as he has to this organization, you're going to look
into it and just see what it is. Now, the
surface level interest is just the beginning. It's what is
it going to take to bring a guy in like
that is what's the prospect costs? What's the money costs?
All of those conversations are more important than just him
being available. But also with a guy in that situation,
you have to think about, you know, it's not just
for this year, Like, yes, he slots in to ESTOC
parades the spot that he's vacated with injury, but what
does it look like in years coming? What happens when
you have a healthy Jeremy pinion when you have a
healthy estoc parades, Where do all these pieces fit next
year in the year after, Because it's not just a
one year deal for a guy like Carlos Koreas. So
when you're talking about acquiring somebody at the deadline who's
not just a rental and hitting free agency, you've got
to think about what does this look like for us
moving forward in terms of payroll, in terms of playing time,
in terms of how how the infield works. So why
is there surface level interest, I think is pretty obvious.
It gets much more complicated after that, though.
Speaker 2: Well that's what we were trying to do.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to size up twenty twenty six, Brian, because
obviously we're or down the two months left in this
season and change. If I'm thinking about twenty six, I'm
thinking that one of the names you just brought up
will not be a part of this team, that there
will be something that will be decided, because unless you
think you can move Jeremy Panna to second base, I
don't think I want a Zach Pritti's playing second base.
I think Jeremy I want to keep him where I
am at short stop. If I want to do that,
I don't think Carl. I think to preserve Carl's koret
playing him at third base would help him out, you know,
in terms of longevity.
Speaker 2: So walk me through what twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Would be if this deal was made, And do you
agree with me that maybe one of the guys we
brought up wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3: It's certainly possible. I mean, if you added a guy
like that into the mix. You know, you obviously see
some redundancy in the in the positions, but it could
also be a thing of saying, hey, if we if
we can get better now, maybe we do that move
and then figure out how next year looks in the offseason.
You also have the ability to take one of those guys,
and you know, I mean you would have two guys
in Korea and Paena who would be certainly well overqualified
to play second base. But that's always the possibility, you know.
I don't know how that changes your plans moving forward
with a guy like Chrys Matthews, but you know, these
are the things that have to be taken into account.
And that's why the trade deadline is always so interesting
because we get so hyper focused on we got to
make a move for this year. We've got to make
this team better now for this playoff run. A lot
of these moves, you know, will affect you down the road,
so you know, I don't know. It's a move that
certainly helps in the short term, but theoretically, I don't
know how it works long term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good stuff, and we'll talk more about that
if indeed it does happen.
Speaker 2: Bogie. Look forward to seeing you on TV. Thank you
for the visit. We'll talk again next week, all right,
Thais Guys,