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Speaker 1: All right, Lodo three Sports Talk seven ninety, it is

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a matt ross with you.

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Speaker 2: We've got Astros baseball a day game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we want you to listen to radio, but

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if you happen to be watching it on television later today,

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at some point you're going to see at least at

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eleven thirty or to twelve thirty the Brian bogasvic led

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to pregame show along with Kevin heshenfielder.

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Speaker 2: Bogie's at the ballpark right now? What a huge weight

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off of the shoulders of the Astros.

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Speaker 1: And you would never say that after losing four straight

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games to Oakland into or to the A's and to

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the Nationals, but it certainly happened last night, Bogie.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, it felt like it was getting to the

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point to where they needed one, not just for the standings,

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but just to kind of let everybody breathe a little bit.

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You know, that stuff starts piling up, especially this time

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of year when the season's kind of dragging to begin with,

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and then you have Texas making a move in Seattle

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playing well it was. It was a much needed one

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win last night, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So what is this time of year like in

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the clubhouse Before we get to the actual particular players.

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You have been in a major league clubhouses for part

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of your life, and you've been around on July thirty

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first or so, what's what is it like for everyone,

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whether their names are being mentioned or not.

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Speaker 3: It's it's anxious, it's exciting. You know, there's always you know,

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the opportunity for the unknown, and you know, it's it's

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much more exciting to be in a clubhouse for a

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team where you're thinking they're going to add and we're

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all right, we're making the moves to go for it,

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versus being in a clubhouse where it's you know, you're

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kind of looking around and saying, am I going to

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be gone? Are you going to be gone? Who's going

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to be here tomorrow? But yeah, it's just it's a

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strange time, you know it Just imagine being in your

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office on any given day knowing that you know there

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are going to be some guys in and out here

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in the next day or two. It just makes them

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a little bit of angst. But at the same time,

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it's an exciting time because you know, once once, once

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you get past this, it's really like, okay, here, here's

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who we are. And this is the home stretch.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you feel like and not that you can

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speak on every trade rumor that's out there, but do

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you feel like this is agent driven because the agent

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finds out through reporters that their names are being banned about.

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Because I would assume that most general managers, unless they're

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just trying to float her name out there, wouldn't be

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calling their favorite Major League Baseball Network reporter and saying, hey,

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I want to mention this guy's a trade possibility.

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think everything that gets out gets

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out for a reason, and it's and it's agents trying

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to steer teams into steer their players into what they

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think to be better situations. Or it could be teams

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trying to you know, throw some smoke out there and

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throw people off their scent of who's available and who's not.

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But yeah, a lot of the stuff that gets out there, uh,

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is out there for a reason, and it's not usually

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because anybody's trying to tip their hand as to what

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they're doing.

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Speaker 1: So if deals don't get made, tell me what that

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that clubhouse is like. For instance, let's talk about just

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throw Dylan Ceese's name out there. He's been associated with

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a variety of teams, including the Astros. What if Dylan

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See states to the San Diego Padre, what's his mindset

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it's supposed to be if he still has a Padre,

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say in two days from now.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't know. You know that

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that it really affects guys all of all that much.

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through it for the first time or hearing about it

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and seeing it for the first time, it might shake

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them a little bit. But a veteran, I mean, Dylan

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talks ever since he got to the Major League, So

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so a guy in that type of situation, you kind

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of take it for what it is, you know, kind

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of look at it as a teams think I'm valuable.

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You know, teams are interested that that should be a

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good thing for me personally, and if it happens, great,

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and if it doesn't, you just go about your business.

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It just kind of comes along with the territory at

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some point. Eventually you just kind of get numb to

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Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say about this before we get to

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the particulars. You know, I've asked many people when I'm

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covering NBA games and traveling, like, hey, what do you

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hear about guys being traded?

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Speaker 2: And the majority of them.

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Speaker 1: Typically say, if I have my contract and I'm getting paid,

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that has to come with the territory of you know what,

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I may have to move at some point in my career.

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Speaker 2: As long as the move, the check moves with me,

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I'm gonna live with it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there there There are very few guys in

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any sport who get into the situation where they're pretty

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comfortable or confident thinking that they're going to be with

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one franchise for their entire career. I mean, those guys

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are very rare. It's because of their abilities and then

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also just their stature within those organizations. Everybody else the

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idea of moving from team to team. It's not ideal

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during the season, you know, it's kind of a headache

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from a personal standpoint, But in terms of from a

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professional standpoint, everybody's under the assumption that they're probably going

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to be changing teams one way or another at some point,

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if not multiple times during their career, So the idea

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of it isn't all that uh, you know, disruptive, but

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but just on your day to day life when it

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does actually happen, it's kind of kind of a pain.

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Speaker 1: All right, bogeys with a prime bogusv xpacity network with

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us here on the Sports Talk sevnty. So let's get

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to the two players that are being talked about more

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than anybody else, and we'll start with Dylan Cees. Walk

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me through if you can a why the Potters would

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make a move like that. There are four back of

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the Dodgers in the West, they are the wild card team.

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context clue that maybe all these guys that are at

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rehab and working on getting back from the Triple A,

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that maybe the astros in the background on their mind

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are thinking, maybe only one or two of them pan out,

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that I need as many reinforcements as possible in my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm from the Padre standpoint. Why, you know,

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if you need to make moves one way or the other,

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if you've got to shore up one place of your

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team or your organization has got to come from someone

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somewhere else. So you know, usually you think of you know,

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trading minor league prospects for major league talent, but sometimes

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it's just trading from a place of strength or a

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place of surplus and trying to add somewhere else. So

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I don't know that it's necessarily red flagging somebody because

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the team is willing to move off of them. It's

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just kind of you know what they need or what

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they want at any given time. I think from from

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the from an astro standpoint, look, it's great that there

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are guys who are coming back. It's great that there

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are guys who are really close to being healthy and

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going to be able to contribute at the major league level.

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a guy's coming off a major surgery and a long layoff,

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even when they get back, you don't know exactly what

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you're going to get from a from a talent standpoint.

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way to one hundred percent. Just because you're activated, you

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might not be all the way back to where you were.

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same workload as a guy who never went through that

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or isn't coming off of an injury, and there's probably

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going to be at the very least some inconsistency or

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maybe some time when when your innings have to be managed.

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or Luis Garcia back at some point it's going to

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be additive. You add those guys into the mix, it's

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certainly helpful, but it's just hard to really pin down

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what exactly you can count on a guy for who's

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Speaker 1: So you brought up those two guys and didn't bring

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up Spencer Arraghedtty. And because it's a different situation, I

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think Arragetty's not gonna have to worry about a governor

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on him because it wasn't an army issue that got

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him into trouble.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: If you were to put a hobbyer, and let's say

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even JP Franz got in the mix, you're adding him,

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gonna be on a pitch limit the rest of this year.

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That'd be ridiculous to think they're going to be throwing

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ninety ninety five mile pitches per game. Does that not

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then tack your bullpen or does that make you livery

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of going to a six man because you're going to

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already be one guy short in the bullpen with maybe

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three or four guys in your rotation that aren't going

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to able to give you get you deep into games.

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Speaker 3: No, you're certainly going to have to be wary of that,

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you know, if you're going to have guys who are

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going to be on a pitch count, first of all

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for their total. Also you're talking about guys who are

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going to be on pitch counts in terms of innings.

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a major surgery go out there and throw thirty plus

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pitches in an inning, that's probably going to be it

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for them, regardless of what their total was for the game.

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So so you're talking about always having the potential for

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a short start if you're already one guy short in

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the pen because you're in a six man rotation, it

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makes it really difficult. You certainly don't want to get

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into a situation where you're throwing leverage relievers in non

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leverage situations. That's that's taking away from a strength of

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the team. So yeah, it's part of the calculus, and

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part of that, you know, is who are the other

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guys who are in the rotation? Can they be counted

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on to go deep into games? And kind of balance

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that out. Is Fromer going to be able to continue

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to do what he's been doing? Is Hunter Brown, you know,

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going to be able to get back to being as

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efficient as he was and being six seven innings instead

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of five or six innings. And you have to weigh

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all of those things because you know, anytime you add

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somebody into the roster, anytime you make a change to

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the roster, the way the whole team functions is just

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a little bit differently, and it's got to be accounted for.

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Speaker 1: More minutes of Brian Bogacivich with us here on seven ninety.

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All right, So let's get to Carlo's Crey. That's the

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second name it's being brought up now. Obviously a lot

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of that is because the thought to me is that

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Essech Praties is not going to play anymore this year,

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and you can insert Carl's creat third base right away.

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So when you first heard the name, what were your

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initial thoughts? And then, just like we do here on

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the radio, we'd hard to doce things. So what does

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an early Brian bocas off a deduction say about why

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there is apparent interest between the Astros and trying to

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acquire their former shortstop.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think why there would be initial interest is

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quite obvious, right, it would fill an immediate need. It

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could you know, could fill an immediate need. It's a

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guy who you certainly know what you're getting in terms

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of the clubhouse and on the field, and just anytime

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AA player of that caliber starts getting mentioned as being available,

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and certainly when it's a guy who means as much

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as he has to this organization, you're going to look

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into it and just see what it is. Now, the

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surface level interest is just the beginning. It's what is

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it going to take to bring a guy in like

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that is what's the prospect costs? What's the money costs?

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All of those conversations are more important than just him

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being available. But also with a guy in that situation,

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for this year, Like, yes, he slots in to ESTOC

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parades the spot that he's vacated with injury, but what

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does it look like in years coming? What happens when

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healthy estoc parades, Where do all these pieces fit next

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year in the year after, Because it's not just a

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one year deal for a guy like Carlos Koreas. So

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when you're talking about acquiring somebody at the deadline who's

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not just a rental and hitting free agency, you've got

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to think about what does this look like for us

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moving forward in terms of payroll, in terms of playing time,

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in terms of how how the infield works. So why

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is there surface level interest, I think is pretty obvious.

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It gets much more complicated after that, though.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what we were trying to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to size up twenty twenty six, Brian, because

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obviously we're or down the two months left in this

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season and change. If I'm thinking about twenty six, I'm

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thinking that one of the names you just brought up

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will not be a part of this team, that there

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will be something that will be decided, because unless you

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think you can move Jeremy Panna to second base, I

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don't think I want a Zach Pritti's playing second base.

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I think Jeremy I want to keep him where I

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am at short stop. If I want to do that,

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I don't think Carl. I think to preserve Carl's koret

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playing him at third base would help him out, you know,

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in terms of longevity.

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Speaker 2: So walk me through what twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Would be if this deal was made, And do you

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agree with me that maybe one of the guys we

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brought up wouldn't be here.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly possible. I mean, if you added a guy

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like that into the mix. You know, you obviously see

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some redundancy in the in the positions, but it could

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also be a thing of saying, hey, if we if

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we can get better now, maybe we do that move

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and then figure out how next year looks in the offseason.

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You also have the ability to take one of those guys,

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and you know, I mean you would have two guys

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in Korea and Paena who would be certainly well overqualified

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to play second base. But that's always the possibility, you know.

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I don't know how that changes your plans moving forward

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with a guy like Chrys Matthews, but you know, these

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are the things that have to be taken into account.

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And that's why the trade deadline is always so interesting

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because we get so hyper focused on we got to

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make a move for this year. We've got to make

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this team better now for this playoff run. A lot

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of these moves, you know, will affect you down the road,

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so you know, I don't know. It's a move that

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certainly helps in the short term, but theoretically, I don't

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know how it works long term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good stuff, and we'll talk more about that

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if indeed it does happen.

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Speaker 2: Bogie. Look forward to seeing you on TV. Thank you

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for the visit. We'll talk again next week, all right,

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Thais Guys,