WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:08.560 Latest on the protest. 5 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:13.160 We do expect yet another update from Karen Bass at 6 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:13.919 some point this morning. 7 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:15.720 I believe eleven o'clock is the is. 8 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.440 The information I saw if I don't know what she 9 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.640 has to say much today, because last night was relatively 10 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.559 quiet in terms of rioting. The curfew went into effect 11 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.960 at eight o'clock. There were several arrests last night, but 12 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:33.039 nowhere near the amount of damage, violence, graffiti, looting that 13 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.200 we had seen in a couple of previous nights. 14 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.679 Michael Monks joins us he's been on top of the 15 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:42.320 protesters protests, I should say, ever since they erupted over 16 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:46.439 the weekend. And now we've got an Alla City council 17 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:49.920 ad that has been put on unpaid leave following an 18 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.920 arrest at one of these protests. And the story goes 19 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:57.039 a little deeper than that. Michael, am I now sorry, 20 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.119 I apologize, no worries. Yeah, this isn't a radio, It's fine. 21 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.520 Well, this is Isabel Herado City council woman, newly elected 22 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:05.480 at the end of last year, so she's serving very 23 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.680 early in her first term. She unseated longtime politician Kevin 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:14.000 daleon and you may recall during that campaign that towards 25 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.280 the end she got caught up in sort of a 26 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.840 mini controversy because she was recorded in front of a 27 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.280 group of college students at calcet Ola saying f the police. 28 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:26.079 Okay. 29 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.040 So that's just to set the scene for who we're 30 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:31.879 talking about here. And so a staffer for Isabelle Herado 31 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:36.760 Lose Aguilar, she has been placed on unpaid leave because 32 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:40.920 she's been arrested suspicion of assaulting a police officer with 33 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.640 a deadly weapon. Where when, Oh, on Sunday at the 34 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:49.359 anti ice protest demonstrations in downtown Los Angeles. But that's 35 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:54.400 not Lose Aguilar's only connection to local politics. Her dad 36 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.359 is Rick Cole, who is a sitting member of the 37 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:01.079 Pasadena City Council and is all also a high ranking 38 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:03.120 figure in the office of La City Controller. 39 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:11.080 Kenneth Maheah. Okay, Can she simply be fired? Why? Why? Why? 40 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:16.960 Why administrative leave and not simply fire her attraction council 41 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.400 woman Isabelle Herado herself. Okay, because this is uh it's 42 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:22.199 going to make me mad. 43 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.240 Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my staff member. 44 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:28.520 They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold my staff 45 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:30.039 to the highest standards. 46 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.159 Just to point out, this is from last night's news 47 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:33.039 conference with the. 48 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.639 Or just real quick, what's happened to my staff member? 49 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.159 Like this was something that happened to the staff. 50 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:40.439 Oh, that's a good point. 51 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.120 That is, Yes, I'm aware of what's happened to my 52 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.639 staff member. They're on unpaid leave right now. I hold 53 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:50.159 my staff to the highest standards. Well, I will. I 54 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.719 wait to see due process and so we'll see the 55 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.879 outcome of that. But I see that as separate and 56 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.599 apart from a reaction to what our constituents want in 57 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:04.879 this city and how this type of opportunism has escalated 58 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:09.520 between yesterday and the day before. And you know, frankly, 59 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.479 I admit my humility here in my beginnerness and that 60 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.719 I'm new to downtown. But our downtown stakeholders have seen 61 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:19.879 this multiple times over and had to basically develop their 62 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.840 own strategies, and they saw the warning signs of how 63 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:23.800 this could get worse. 64 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:27.759 So she was alongside Mayor Bass during the press conference 65 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.560 because all of this stuff has been happening in downtown 66 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.199 Los Angeles. She happens to represent downtown. You heard her 67 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.080 reference I'm new to downtown. That's because downtown is But 68 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.840 we keep hearing the word sliver. This is a sliver 69 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.520 of her district, which is mostly Northeast LA suburbs like 70 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.360 Boyle Heights and then Downtown is kind of thrown in 71 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:48.240 with all those and is usually a famous afterthought of 72 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.639 whoever's representing that district. 73 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.360 Okay, do you feel that I thought a little earthquake 74 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:52.159 was a truck? 75 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:52.520 Oh? 76 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:52.919 Okay. 77 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.879 Also, side note you mentioned or you heard in the 78 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:01.599 council woman's line there they This does appear to be 79 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:06.039 a they them person council member who was arrested with 80 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.199 her twins, their twin. 81 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.319 Sister, so it's two sisters. 82 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:12.439 Lose Aguilar is the one who works in the office, 83 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.680 but also her sister, twenty six year old obviously Antonia 84 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:21.480 Aguilar Them. Okay, my apologies if I've missed jets. Okay, 85 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:25.879 it's it's your beginnerness. It's showing it's my beginnerness. So 86 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.680 I'm asking for some races. Yeah, she's a new council member, 87 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:33.720 and she is a little. Her public speaking is a 88 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.000 little clunky. She's and that's all I can say about that. 89 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.240 But you know, obviously this is somebody who set a 90 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.519 tone on the campaign trail about her feelings about policing. 91 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.600 She is from the same school of local politics as 92 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.680 Unisses Hernandez, Hugo Soto Martinez, who also serve on the 93 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:58.639 city Council and have strong sentiments about LAPD funding, LAPD behavior. 94 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:03.000 In fact, before for the mayor's press conference yesterday, the 95 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.480 chief of police was hauled into the city council chamber. 96 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:06.319 Answer question. 97 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.560 We'll do that next segment, because that was also you'd 98 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.199 want to talk about putting a guy like Jim McDonell 99 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:18.000 in the absolute worst possible position and making an answer 100 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.079 questions that are almost impossible for the chief of local 101 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:22.240 police department to answer. 102 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:22.920 We'll do that well. 103 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.199 After they've totally fed him when it comes to the. 104 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.639 Budget, right right, Gary Channon will continue. Michael Monks has 105 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:29.040 joined us. 106 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.680 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 107 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:34.800 AM six forty. 108 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.879 Judge not granting Governor Newsom's request for an immediate block 109 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.600 of the deployment of troops to California but what is 110 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.600 the schedule, the timeline, what's the next steps for that 111 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.319 lawsuit against the president by the governor. 112 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.519 Marines are joining the National Guard soldiers today. It's the 113 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.920 first day the Marines will be on the streets. Approximately 114 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:03.720 seventeen hundred members of the National guards seventy ninth Infantry 115 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.360 Brigade Combat Team are in LA Team as part of 116 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.319 the National Guard's twenty one hundred member Task Force fifty 117 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.079 one on titled ten status in California. So they will, 118 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.800 like you mentioned, be there to assist in guarding federal properties. 119 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:20.519 You know, it's a very. 120 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.120 It's a very different conversation when it comes to Marines 121 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.439 in the National Guard just there to guard federal properties 122 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:29.920 as opposed to manning the streets. 123 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:33.160 Yeah, and it's important that an. 124 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:37.480 Important distinction that could change at a moment's notice, couldn't. 125 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:41.879 It if the President decides to invoke the Insurrection Act. 126 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.279 And as we talked with Jessica Levinson yesterday from Loyola, 127 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.120 she was explaining, the courts have given a lot of 128 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.480 leeway to presidents to make decisions like that, So we 129 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.720 don't know which way his wind is blowing right now, 130 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.879 if in fact he wants to do that. Michael Monks 131 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:59.519 has joined us, who's been covering a lot of different 132 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:03.279 aspects of the stories this story over the last several days, 133 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.399 and one of the new aspects of it is that 134 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.120 the City Council in Los Angeles is now upset with 135 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:13.839 the LAPD chief for. 136 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.399 What well, you know this LAPD. 137 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:18.959 They can't get a break right now because there's criticism 138 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.399 coming from all angles. You're not doing enough, you're doing 139 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.879 too much. All at the same time, I think the 140 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.800 majority sentiment among the city councils that perhaps LAPD was 141 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.079 doing too much, and there were also some accusations made 142 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.000 about whether they're colluding with some of the federal agencies 143 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.879 that have come in this. They hauled in Chief Jim 144 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.120 McDonald to the City council meeting yesterday. This was a 145 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.199 late agenda item that they always meet on Tuesdays, but 146 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.680 this is obviously the first Tuesday to come along since 147 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.160 everything broke loose on Friday. In fact, we got word 148 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.920 of the raid during the city council meeting last Friday, 149 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.519 the one taking place in the Garment district. So this 150 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:53.480 is their first meeting since all of it, So they're 151 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.879 chomping at the bit to ask some questions and they did, 152 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.560 and council members like the one we referenced Isabelle Herado Unice, 153 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.879 He's hernad As Hugosda Martinez. 154 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:03.680 They have a lot of. 155 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:09.759 Concerns about the behavior of LAPD officers against the protesters. 156 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.560 That seem to be where their concerns are. I've got 157 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.839 some sound from Hugo Soda Martinez and his line of questioning. 158 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:19.279 We have to be mindful of the tactics that are 159 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.839 being used by some LAPD members that is adding to 160 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.720 the escalation because that is taking away from the goal 161 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.199 of keeping families together. Now, just like a few protesters 162 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.759 can take away from the messaging, the same thing can 163 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:39.639 be said by LAPD. It overshadows the response. So I 164 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.279 just want people to remember that in this moment, everybody 165 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.080 as a city has to live by our values and 166 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:50.399 keep our eyes on the prize. We are fighting a 167 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:55.559 white nationalist president that will like nothing better than to 168 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:59.159 come into our city and deport our people. 169 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:00.200 And wipen it up a little bit. 170 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:02.320 Is that what he's going to suggest next is that 171 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.519 what he thinks that this really is is that he's 172 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.720 that the president is trying to whiten Southern California that. 173 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:12.519 That statement is not far off from typical characterizations of 174 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.320 the Trump administration from these folks. This is kind of 175 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.720 what they said leading up to the adoption of a 176 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.600 sanctuary city policy and in the weeks since with all 177 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:25.679 of the chaos that has ensued. The chief of police 178 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:30.679 was also grilled by city councilhen Emelda Padilla, who asked 179 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.000 whether the LAPD could maybe alert city officials if federal 180 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.240 law enforcement agencies were coming into town to do something, 181 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.120 and the chief got kind of snippy with her and 182 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:42.799 he said, you know, you're asking me to warn you 183 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.600 about an enforcement action being taken by another agency before 184 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.120 it happens. 185 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.039 We can't do that. No, it's illegal, an obstruction of justice. 186 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.399 But also Council President Marquise Harris Dawson is doesn't like 187 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:59.840 referring to ICE as an other federal agencies as enforcement partner. 188 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:04.039 McDonald the restraint that he must have to sit before 189 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.279 these boobs who have been around for five minutes and 190 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.039 think they know what his job is better than what 191 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.480 he then he knows after being in Los Angeles for 192 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.519 as long as he has, the patience and the restraint 193 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:19.879 is freaking incredible. 194 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:21.720 There's a point that has to be made as well 195 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:26.039 about the city council, and even the mayor has kind 196 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.480 of alluded to this that they don't know when these 197 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:29.240 raids are coming. 198 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.399 The bottom line is, we don't know, and that is 199 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.399 consistent with ice raids. Of course, we never know when, 200 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:36.480 we never know how long. 201 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:41.600 Okay, that's consistent with all law enforcement who happen to 202 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:47.279 have a very specific tactic of catching people off guard when. 203 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.039 They're engaged in criminal behavior. 204 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.639 They don't call people and say, hey, Josh, just so 205 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:57.320 you know, you're wanted on a murder warrant out of Pacoima, 206 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.360 can we come like just hang out at like four 207 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.879 forty five maybe five o'clock if you're not busy. We'd 208 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.519 love to be able to come in and put handcuffs 209 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:07.799 on you. 210 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.279 That's not the way law enforcement. 211 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.919 Has ever worked, So why why is. 212 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:17.440 There a surprise They just don't know? The federal government 213 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:22.600 would would send up a telegram to someone and suggest. 214 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.320 Oh, we're going to be at this place at this. 215 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.279 Time so that you can send five hundred people to 216 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.240 get in our way. Hey, we'll keep in mind put 217 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.320 themselves at risk too, And that's that's valid and keep 218 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.000 in mind though, that the chief is also getting it 219 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.879 from the federal government, like the Department of Homeland Security 220 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:40.279 is not happy with the Los Angeles Police Department either, 221 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:42.480 for not showing up at a time that they thought 222 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:44.639 was adequate to support the federal agencies who were on 223 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.279 the ground executing these warrants. That was Friday, right, that 224 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:48.679 that was that was related to Friday. 225 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:49.039 That's right. 226 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:51.480 But look, well there's also the ari. 227 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.360 I mean, you can why it's the National Guard here? 228 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:55.320 Why are the Marines here? I mean, that's a direct 229 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:56.919 and that's a direct comment. 230 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.279 Oh, there's a couple of things. And you know, there 231 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.399 was the comment about overwhelmed. 232 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.240 He said, he did. 233 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:07.120 Say that, and I think what his purpose of saying 234 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.480 that was was you can't cut from the LAPD which 235 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:13.879 is actively happening at city Hall if you want us 236 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:17.399 to respond to things this large is what the basis 237 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.159 of that comment was. But it can be construed as 238 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.519 calling for help from the federal government now that the 239 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.080 federal government has stepped in. 240 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.279 And that I think is one of the shortcomings that 241 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:29.879 we've seen in the last couple of days is no 242 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:31.080 one has asked the chief. 243 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.440 I don't know how available he has been. 244 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:38.000 We're not the reporters that are there in those news conferences, 245 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.440 but somebody needs to ask him to revisit that comment 246 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.720 because there are a lot of people are using that for 247 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.679 him explaining, like you said, I mean, he could be 248 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:49.679 taken a couple of different ways. What did he mean 249 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.360 by that? Was it just the context of Friday night 250 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.840 we were overwhelmed, or Saturday night we were overwhelmed, we 251 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.000 didn't have enough flex cuffs for people, or is it 252 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.039 legitimately we do not have enough men and women to 253 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.279 put on the streets to keep this thing under control. 254 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:06.000 It's a reflex when you're the head of an agency 255 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.080 like this to say we need more all the time. 256 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.879 It's one of their jobs, whether you're the fire chief, 257 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.200 police chief, what have you, to make sure funding is 258 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.159 not cut, make sure in fact that it is added 259 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.240 to under your watch. That's one of the hallmarks of 260 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.360 a strong chief is to make sure your funding is 261 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:27.480 not cut and in fact, if you can bolster it 262 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:31.480 even better. His funding has been cut, the LAPD's funding 263 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.159 has been cut, so his number one goal is to 264 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.639 stop that from happening. And when you're requiring the LAPED 265 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.840 to show out and force like that on Friday night 266 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.440 and they are reduced. 267 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:42.799 They're at a reduced workforce. 268 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.080 You're going to say things like that, and when this 269 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.440 thing exploded, he didn't see it. This exploding Friday night 270 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.279 into Saturday to a national story. And then all of 271 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.600 a sudden, that underwhelmed comment gets parlayed into oh, this 272 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:57.879 is why Trump was able to send in all of 273 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.879 his henchmen or whatever the form of the National Guard 274 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.840 in the Marines. And so, yeah, I think you're right. 275 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.919 I think that. I don't know why he hasn't been 276 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.399 pressed on that. I guess it doesn't mean as much 277 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:09.320 as it means. 278 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.200 To he doesn't want to get Kristian crowleyed, I don't know, 279 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:15.799 you know, speaking against the mayor like the fire chief did, and. 280 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:19.840 Oh I already forgotten. Nay, quickly, we move on really quickly. 281 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:21.440 I know you guys have to take a break, but 282 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:23.879 I just want to say it's clear the LAPD's tactics 283 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.000 have amplified and they've gotten the message that we need 284 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.200 to do more. I'm anxious to see how today goes, 285 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.360 if anything breaks out in the afternoon before the curfew, 286 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.679 to see if that continues and two. The LAPD did 287 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.600 lose out in this budget. They saw their recruitment opportunities 288 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.120 caught in half. But for the past several years they 289 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.000 were fully funded to bring more officers in and they 290 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.519 have confessed themselves that they have been unable to fill 291 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:47.879 their ranks for a variety of reasons. 292 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:51.039 Curfews starts today. Yes, all right, thank you, Michael, appreciate it. 293 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:52.799 Stay out of downtown. Thanks. 294 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:57.639 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 295 00:14:57.879 --> 00:14:58.759 AM six forty. 296 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:03.559 Ambition is odd. I really love ambition. I admire it 297 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.919 when someone has ambition, but sometimes it can go too far. 298 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.639 But it's always fun to talk about, isn't it. Gavin 299 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.799 Newsom is the subject of an article in The Wall 300 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:18.759 Street Journal about him leaning into this LA unrest to 301 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.679 position himself as the head of the monster that is 302 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.120 the opposition to Trump and what the administration represents, and 303 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.639 he has seen I mean, it's an important moment, I 304 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.720 said earlier. 305 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.799 I think this is make or break for Newsom. 306 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.519 If he wants to insinuate himself as the leader of 307 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:41.039 the resistance, then he's gonna have to show the math. 308 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.120 He's gonna have to really be hard hitting and establish 309 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.600 himself not as a pretty boy left California I like 310 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.240 wine tasting and a six hundred dollars meal guy, but 311 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.039 somebody who's palatable to the Democrats and the rest of 312 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:58.120 the country. If you're going to go after Trump, you've 313 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:01.240 got to go to Trump's arena and beat him there. 314 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.080 And I just don't know if Newsom has it in him. 315 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.080 There's an interesting you mentioned, what was your article from 316 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.399 Wall Street. There's another one in Politico as well today 317 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.639 that uses the same the same kind of backbone that 318 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:23.120 the idea that Gavin Newsom has re appeared on the 319 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:28.919 national stage in terms of being the main face of 320 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.759 opposition against Donald Trump. But they actually credit Trump with 321 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:34.720 catapulting Newsom to that. 322 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:39.279 So that was going to be my next thought, and 323 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:43.039 I'm glad that they got to it, because my thought 324 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.759 reading the Wall Street Journal article is this is only 325 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.000 because Trump has enabled Newsom to rise to this level, 326 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.960 And you've got to ask yourself why, And if Trump 327 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:57.039 wants his legacy to endure past his administration and he's 328 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.679 crowning Newsom as the king of resistance, Trump's got to 329 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:06.359 believe that Newsom is just that an empty pillowcase well, no, 330 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.799 they're there because, hey, if you want this guy to 331 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.319 take on me and my buddy's over here, whether it 332 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:15.160 be jd Vance or what whoever's waiting in the wings, 333 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.680 the Trump family would have you go for it, right 334 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.680 because we know we can demolish him. I mean, you 335 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.920 do have to ask yourself that question. It is Newsome 336 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.160 becoming a topic nationally because Trump's enabling him because he 337 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.000 knows he can beat him. 338 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.519 And what is the actual character of Gavin Newsom? 339 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:36.519 What? And I don't mean that question. 340 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.839 I don't mean you know, who is he as a person, 341 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.599 although we've asked that question many times. I mean as 342 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.519 a political character outside of California? Do people see him 343 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:50.920 as the legitimate standard bearer for the Democratic Party fighting 344 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.359 for immigrants in this country? Does he see him as 345 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.559 a strict politician who is leveraging his position, his money, 346 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.240 his uh face, his notoriety in his face, his hair 347 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.480 into position where that will help, you know, make help 348 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:10.839 the leap to the next step. 349 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.599 Does he have the balls that matter in places like 350 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:17.799 Ohio or Pennsylvania. Does he have the friendships in the 351 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.599 power circles to get things done? Does he have the 352 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:27.279 money outside of California. Three big questions and right now 353 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:29.519 you're not getting a lot of yeses. 354 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:31.599 Right yeah. 355 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:33.680 And maybe after this he meets this. 356 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.640 Moment, maybe more people will jump on the slow speed 357 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:43.759 Gavin train with stops in places like Madera. But until then, 358 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:46.759 until those questions are answered, you're just gonna have this 359 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:50.039 like weak stream guide leading your resistance. 360 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:55.559 Remember a year ago, there were discussions about whether Gavin 361 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.279 Newsom was going to jump into the to the Democratic 362 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.279 primaries right year ago, year and a half ago before 363 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:05.440 they started, and he repeatedly said, listen, I don't I'm 364 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:07.960 not planning on it, or whatever whatever the term he 365 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.880 was using at the time, but he was begging in 366 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:16.200 the back rooms, please push me into the limelight, force 367 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.240 my hand, and I can be the reluctant hero that 368 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.359 comes in and saves the Democratic Party from a faltering 369 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.920 candidate in what was Joe Biden at the time. It 370 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.039 almost feels like he got lucky again with this, that 371 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.400 Donald Trump is going after Gavin Newsom in this instance 372 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:39.640 and he is relishing the accidental hero. Listen, I don't 373 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.799 want to have to be in this position. But if 374 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:44.039 I'm going to stand up for the four year old. 375 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.400 What if I'm going to stand up for the families 376 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.079 that are being torn apart, then I will. I will 377 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.319 wear that mantle proudly, although I didn't ask for it. Please, 378 00:19:54.640 --> 00:20:02.079 this is this is his this is his conference championship. 379 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.160 In every industry, or he gets to the super Bowl 380 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.200 in every occupation, sports or otherwise. There's a time when 381 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.880 people are exposed. Yeah, and Kamala Harris. Unfortunately we all 382 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.839 saw that in real time. Trump has brought this fight 383 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.799 to Gavin Newsom. Gavin's been blustering about it four months, 384 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.680 if not years. All Right, well, now it's game time. 385 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:25.759 What the hell are you going to do? How are 386 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:26.279 you going to fight? 387 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:26.519 This? 388 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:31.839 Is he the most powerful governor in the country, democratic governor? 389 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:32.920 Is he the most powerful? 390 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.680 And I obviously it's because we have a huge economy, 391 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:38.079 we have a huge state, we have huge population. You 392 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.960 can make the argument he is the most powerful democratic 393 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.279 governor in the country. This is the war that both 394 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.160 of them want. Donald Trump wants to be able to 395 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.960 show I can take on the biggest guy on your team, 396 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.160 Gavin Newsom, and impose my will on the bluest state, 397 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.440 one of the bluest states in the nation, and Gavin 398 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.960 Newsom wont to be able to say, I David struck 399 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:04.039 down your goliath. 400 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.880 Well, and it's it's go time for Gavin Newsom. It's 401 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.160