WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.960 There was a piece in the New York Times yesterday, 2 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:04.719 of course, the perfect thing to run on Father's Day, 3 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:11.119 a liberal author giving a screed about her dad, about 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:18.440 how insufficient, inadequate, bad her dad was, while her dad 5 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:23.600 is still alive, by the way, and presumably able to 6 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:28.199 read The New York Times, and she had written some 7 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.280 things about how, you know their relationship was sort of 8 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:31.920 improving in some way. Well, I ain't going to be 9 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:39.399 improving after this. What my dad gave me this opinion 10 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:44.240 guest essay. And you read through this piece and it's 11 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:49.240 got stuff like this. My father gave me his freckly skin, 12 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:52.479 and like him, I had melanoma. He gave me asthma 13 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.000 and protruding elbows that are identical to his own. I 14 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:57.880 don't know what a protruding elbow is. He gave me 15 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.840 reddish hair that's kindly reluctant to go gray. He gave 16 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.679 me an aversion to drinking by not having one himself, 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:11.159 by not having an aversion, So my dad's an alcoholic. Okay, 18 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.239 that's super nice. He did not give me the seat 19 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.840 next to him at a San Diego Chargers game. He 20 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:18.920 had season tickets when I was a kid, but I 21 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:24.480 only found out about it years later. Okay, so we're 22 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.400 complaining that he didn't take you to football games. He 23 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:29.640 gave me the ability to talk to anyone because I 24 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:36.959 couldn't stand the awkward silences that he provided. He gave 25 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.239 me really nice houses to grow up in, but we 26 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:41.680 moved a lot for his work, and things never seemed 27 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:43.560 to be going well. So he gave me the financial 28 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:50.120 He gave me financial anxiety too. He gave me the 29 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:54.079 tools to withstand a sexist world. He would say, Hillary 30 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:57.599 looks ugly in her pantsuits and her voice. Women don't 31 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.239 belong on the golf course. This was my exposure therapy. 32 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:08.240 He gave it generously. She's just bringing up every not 33 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.599 kind thing her her dad ever did. He didn't give 34 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:13.599 me a response. When I was little and watching a 35 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.039 baseball game on TV with him, why I wanted to 36 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:17.800 know did the umpire call a strike when the batter 37 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.199 didn't swing his back? He couldn't be bothered to explain. 38 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.599 So she's bringing up like one ran. I mean, really 39 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.599 should a dad be like you know? Any one question 40 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.879 that a kid asks that he doesn't answer is gonna 41 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.800 be fodder for a hit piece against him in the 42 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.919 New York Times thirty years later. Some things I took 43 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.639 from him his Fox News when I set up his 44 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.240 cable copies of love letters he'd written to a woman 45 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.639 who wasn't my mom that I found when I was 46 00:02:52.680 --> 00:03:01.360 helping him move. So your dad was cheating on your mom? 47 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.599 Well do you know? Well there's no context for that. 48 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.199 That just throw them that out? Was it before he 49 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:10.840 met your mom? Was it while he was married to 50 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:15.840 your mom? Was it like? Did you hear and your 51 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.800 mom get divorced? And then he was writing love letter? 52 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:22.319 What's going on? I gave him things too. I gave 53 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.960 him disappointment when I was born a girl. Then I 54 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:29.120 gave him grandsons. I once gave him something really nice. 55 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.240 He'd been forced to sell his signed baseball collection when 56 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.560 he was having financial trouble. I wrote about it in 57 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.719 the Times, and the fact that he'd gotten all the signatures. 58 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:38.800 When he was fourteen and a batmoy for the Chicago 59 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.919 White Sox, the White Sox front office contacted me asking 60 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.639 if my dad would throw out the first pitch at 61 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.120 a game. I took him to Chicago and at eighty 62 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.520 five he took to the mound. I didn't give him 63 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:52.879 a hard time about missing the plate. The time for 64 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.759 all the giving and withholding feels over And I couldn't 65 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.439 tell you the tally you just did. You just gave 66 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.680 a tally of all the rotten things you're like, some 67 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.759 of which didn't seem that bad. Your dad had a 68 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.120 lot of awkward silences in his conversation. Okay, some guys 69 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:13.840 are not talking. I don't know, no sympathy there for 70 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.480 your dad. That maybe your dad just had a difficult 71 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.560 time relating to his children, That maybe that was a 72 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.600 thing he felt bad about all. The fact that your 73 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.519 dad watched Fox News makes him an evil, horrible person. 74 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.040 There's a feeling of loss. Of course, that's stronger now 75 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.279 that I know that he had it in him. But 76 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.480 it comes with warmth for him, and that is new 77 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.959 and it feels good. On a recent visit, we had 78 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.639 coffee together in the dining room of the assisted living place. 79 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.519 Refusing his eternal gift of awkward silence, I kept the 80 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.519 conversation going. She keeps going on and on about the 81 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.480 fact that he has awkward silences. Maybe he just had 82 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.680 a personality like that that he found it difficult to 83 00:04:53.720 --> 00:05:00.000 talk and relate to people. I don't know. I don't 84 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.879 remember what he talked about, but I am sure he 85 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:07.879 eventually asked questions about my husband, my boys, and David Brooks. Again, 86 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:09.879 that's another shot that he only wants to talk about 87 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.199 men or something. At one point, I reached across the 88 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:14.319 table and gave him my hand. I'd never done anything 89 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.399 like that before. I'm not sure why I did it. 90 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:25.000 Then he took it. I just cannot fathom this. This 91 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.120 is a big old essay in the New York Times, 92 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:32.959 clearly and boils down to a couple of thoughts about it. 93 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:42.079 I was really revolted seeing this. First of all. I 94 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:47.519 am more and more believing this. I'm not saying every 95 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:53.600 liberal is this way, but a lot of liberal leaning 96 00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:01.879 people are. So much of modern day liberalism feels like 97 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:10.000 resentment against your parents, and it's hard to psychoanalyze, you know, 98 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.040 millions of people all in a single political movement, But 99 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:23.560 I kind of feel like it's true. I think there 100 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:31.199 are millions of millennials who became liberal with some sort 101 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.319 of resentment and antipathy to the fact that their parents 102 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:40.160 watch Fox News. This seems to be a constant, repeated theme, 103 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:51.439 annoyance at your parents because they watch Fox News, annoyance 104 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:58.959 at your parents because of this and that, and you 105 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:03.759 can kind of see it. I mean, I think of 106 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:10.879 how much, you know, how broad of a stereotype do 107 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:12.920 I want to paint with today, How broad of a 108 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.160 brush do I want to paint with? How big? How 109 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.759 much do I want to you know, play to stereotypes. 110 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.079 I'm hardly the first person to bring up the idea. 111 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.680 I don't know how scientifically rigorous it is, but it 112 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.399 seems anecdotally true quite a bit that a lot of 113 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.759 same sex attracted persons if I will, report having bad 114 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:47.839 relationships with their fathers and the absence of fathers and 115 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.319 of father figures. Again, I don't know how rigorous that is. 116 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:54.800 It's just a thing that's out there in the either. 117 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:59.600 I don't know how true it is, find it. It 118 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:02.920 seems to make sense to me as far as my 119 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.839 relationship with my own children, and just sort of seeing 120 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.519 on a day to day level the practical positive impact 121 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:17.439 it makes to be there providing a different kind of parenting, 122 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.920 a complementary kind of parenting to that which their mother provides. 123 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:30.040 And I can see how, especially for my girls, if 124 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:37.879 I am distant if I am cold, if I am 125 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.039 pigheaded towards them, if I model certain kinds of bad behaviors, 126 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:45.480 I can see how that can, especially depending on a 127 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:51.919 kid's personality type, result in deep resentments. I can see 128 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:59.600 all of that, and I can see how some of 129 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:04.159 those resis can lead to becoming more liberal, sort of 130 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:11.879 being too authoritarian or being too distant or whatever. But 131 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:17.080 the thing about that article that just most saddened me. 132 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.840 I mean, just the idea of publishing something like that 133 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:29.679 about your father when your father's still alive. It led 134 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:32.080 me to think about my own dad and my own 135 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.759 dad who passed away. My dad was sixty seven years 136 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.480 old when he passed back in March of twenty twenty four, 137 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:45.600 and to think about, you know, one of the things 138 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:51.799 that I guess was kind of clarifying about his passing 139 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:59.440 was that after he's gone, there's this part of you 140 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:06.200 that is sort of thinking about, well, were there things 141 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.120 that could have been said or should have been said, 142 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.600 or you know, were there things about how my dad 143 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.360 raised us that could have been better? Could have you know? 144 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.240 You know, maybe I think my dad was an amazing dad. 145 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.440 I wouldn't say he was perfect, certainly, no one is. 146 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:30.159 And I think sort of the good thing about the 147 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:36.879 Christian attitude or the Christian worldview. The Christian ethic is charity, 148 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.679 loving God above all things, and loving your neighbor as yourself, 149 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:49.759 loving your dad as yourself. And part of loving your 150 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:56.840 parents as yourself is loving them for all their faults 151 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:02.240 and seeing that you're no peach either, that you're not 152 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:09.000 perfect either, and to afford a bit of grace, a 153 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:16.360 bit of compassion understanding for your parents, who often were 154 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:21.159 going through crap. You had no idea of stresses that 155 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:26.159 they didn't burden you with because you were a kid 156 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.000 and they loved you, and it's not your responsibility to 157 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:33.840 bear the burden of you know, my dad took care 158 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.159 of a patient who died, or you know, maybe something 159 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.679 you know, there was a doctor at work who was 160 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.639 doing drugs and my dad had to fire him, or 161 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:49.879 you know, something stressful. His partners were getting angry about 162 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:51.120 this and that and the other, and he's trying to 163 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:58.399 negotiate something very tense. You don't as a kid, you 164 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.600 can walk away with resentments based on things you barely 165 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:12.720 even halfway know. And at my dad's death, it's like 166 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.559 I was sort of thinking of like, well, there were 167 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.240 things I wish I had done better by him with 168 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:26.919 and I had no serious grievances against my dad, and 169 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.279 believe me, but I do sort of think, you know, 170 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:32.279 you know, it would have been nice to have been 171 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.559 able to do this or do that. And I felt 172 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:43.279 like after he passed the embrace of Christian charity, that 173 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.679 I felt for my dad and that you know, I 174 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:51.600 hope he is able to enjoy towards me right now 175 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:57.000 in the next life is such that it allows all 176 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:04.360 to be forgiven, that I bear no ill will towards 177 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:10.960 my dad for any flaw he may have had. And again, 178 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.759 my dad was a wonderful, wonderful man and a wonderful, 179 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.320 wonderful father, and I have so much to be grateful for. 180 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.879 So it's not like I've got some big lineup of 181 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:24.039 you know, critiques of him that I'm shouldering or anything. 182 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.000 So you know, maybe that's easier for me. And again 183 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.879 I'm not saying, you know, there's some dads who are monsters. 184 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.039 There's some dads who are horrible, horrible, horrible people. And 185 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.879 this discussion sounds different for someone whose dad, you know, 186 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.320 beat them or beat their mom, or you know something 187 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:45.120 like that. I think though, that having the grace and 188 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:52.200 wisdom and maybe the maturity to see I am deeply imperfect. 189 00:13:53.480 --> 00:14:00.159 I am not the best person. I would wish that 190 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:06.600 my parents would have grace and mercy and forgiveness and 191 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:10.919 compassion towards me for the difficulties that I put them through, 192 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:14.480 and the difficulties that I present to them, and the 193 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:18.240 ways that I annoy them, and the ways that I 194 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.720 am sometimes you know, no peach to be around, the 195 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.240 ways that I disappoint them, and the ways that I'm inadequate. 196 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.840 I would want them to have grace and forgiveness and 197 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.279 love me in spite of those failings. And I think children, 198 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:42.000 especially adult children, should model that should should demonstrate that 199 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.080 that this is part and that maybe this is just 200 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:49.799 a healthy way to grow up. I found this more 201 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:56.600 and more in my marriage is don't don't carry baggage 202 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.360 with you. Don't carry the baggage of a little fight 203 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:04.000 over a little thing. Apologize even if you think that 204 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.120 you're not in the wrong, because half the time you 205 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:13.679 probably are in the wrong. Forgive other people, because half 206 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:15.960 the time you're probably doing stupid stuff that you should 207 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:24.480 be forgiving. That you should be seeking forgiveness for and 208 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:27.759 I think that's an important thing to think about on fire. 209 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.799 I mean, that's why I hated this, this New York 210 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.639 Times piece so much. Or the author's just trashing her 211 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.799 dad in the pages of the New York Times. Well, 212 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:42.080 the poor guy's still alive, like airing is dirty laundry out, 213 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.559 Like that's no way to treat your father, because it's 214 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.159 no way you would want to be treated. I guarantee 215 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.919 you this woman, she's probably got things in her life. 216 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.600 She's not proud of things, she's embarrassed about things she 217 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:06.799 should be embarrassed about, and she would hope, I presume 218 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.960 that her parents would love her enough not to trash 219 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.120 her for it, and to still love her in spite 220 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:17.279 of her faults. Why wouldn't you afford that same grace 221 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.840 to your father? Anyway, it was a horrible thing, I 222 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:23.600 think for the New York Times to publish that on 223 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.639 Father's Day. But at very least I think I think 224 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.000 it's a kind of clarifying thing. How I don't know 225 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.960 what it is. Maybe it's the modern industry of therapy 226 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.679 that it's so often built around resentments towards your dad 227 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:46.000 or something. I don't know. It seems bizarre, all right. 228 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.919 When we return, I drove past the No King's Rally, 229 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:50.759 one of them in Fresno. Anyway, we'll talk about it 230 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:54.879 next on the John Girardi Show. So I was driving 231 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:59.200 around on Saturday morning. It's sort of Saturday mid day 232 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.799 about I guess about eleven eleven thirty, and I drove 233 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:09.680 past Fashion Fair and I saw one of the big 234 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:14.839 No King's rallies. So these are the astro turfed anti 235 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.160 Trump rallies that are taking place all over the country, 236 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.519 which hilariously, Judge Charles Bryer, the judge from the Northern 237 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:27.519 District of California who tried to block President Trump's activation 238 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.039 at the California National Guard, was talking about, oh, Donald, 239 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:32.720 He's not allowed to act like a king. He can't 240 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.559 just activate the National Guard anytime he feels like, you 241 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.880 can't act like a king, which is hilarious that this 242 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.119 is a judge who is just repair atting liberal talking 243 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.599 points right now that Trump is acting like a king. 244 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.799 Trump is acting like a king. And the idea that 245 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.880 which I felt it was a very odd, just a 246 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:59.920 very odd kind of rhetorical angle to take Donald Trump's 247 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:01.680 seeing like a king, and we don't have kings in 248 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:10.799 America because because of ice immigration enforcement and because of 249 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:17.200 activating the National Guard. Neither of those things to me 250 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.799 seem characteristic of a king. It seems characteristic of a president. 251 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.759 Presidents execute the law. Federal immigration law is what it is. 252 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:31.799 The president can tell federal employees federal law enforcement to 253 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:36.480 go enforce federal law. It's kind of one within the 254 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.160 constitutional wheelhouse of the president. Even activation of the National 255 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.839 Guard is like pretty one hundred percent obviously within the 256 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.880 scope of the president, he can activate the National Guard. 257 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:53.119 John Kennedy activated the National Guard to enforce federal law 258 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.400 when the governor of Alabama wasn't allowing schools to be desegregated, 259 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:03.000 and so John Kennedy activated the Alabama National Guard. Like 260 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:08.799 I find it, it's just seems like a weird angle. No, 261 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.119 we don't believe in kings in America. Well, well yeah, obviously, 262 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:16.039 but nothing that he's doing seems like characteristic of a king. 263 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.240 Seems characteristic of a president who's very vigorously trying to 264 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:24.519 enforce federal law. You can say it's good or bad, 265 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.359 but you know, it is what it is. So I 266 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.200 drove past and The thing I thought was funniest about 267 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.519 the No King's rally was I it seems to be 268 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:43.400 a very scattershot mission focused, a very diffused sort of mission, 269 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.279 Like what what is the point of this rally? Driving past, 270 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:54.920 I saw upside down American flag, a Palestinian flag, Mexican flag, 271 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:01.839 Gay Pride flag, trans flag. I saw someone holding up 272 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:11.759 Planned Parenthood signs, So what the cause that they were 273 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.799 advocating against? Now? I saw several people with anti ICE signs. 274 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:18.680 I have a friend who works for PG and E 275 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:21.279 who was texting us laughing like what did we do? 276 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.359 Because he saw someone with a sign that said, you know, 277 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.920 for f ICE and FPG and E. And he's like, well, 278 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.039 whoa wait, what does PG and have to do with 279 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.960 any of this? Why are we taking space line? And 280 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.680 to which I said, you guys know why no one 281 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:43.160 likes PG and E. So I just thought it was 282 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.359 funny in that sense. But it relates to this that 283 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.240 some people have pointed out the left has more and 284 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.960 more sort of they seem to insist that every issue 285 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.799 is connected to every other issue, that it's the uniticause 286 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:02.920 as people call it, that being pro LGBT is the 287 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.480 same as being pro gazo, which is the same as 288 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:11.759 being pro labor, which is the same as being anti ice, 289 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:16.440 which is it's this bizarre attitude they have. It's the 290 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:22.079 intersectionality concept that all these things are interconnected and that 291 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.599 the more sort of historic aggrievances you have, the higher 292 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.880 you are within the liberal hierarchy. So it was funny 293 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:32.920 to see it all on display in a way that 294 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.759 was like puzzling as far as like, what actually is 295 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:40.920 this rally about? And it seemed just to be about 296 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.519 the entire I guess Democratic Party platform more or less. 297 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.319 All right, when we return, some really significant shifts in 298 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:51.519 what President Trump is saying about immigration enforcement and trying 299 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.920 to grapple with the ethics of it. Next on the 300 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:01.480 John Gewardy Show, a lot of odd shift, odd and 301 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:06.319 very sudden shifting from President Trump in the last week 302 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.720 when it comes to immigration and immigration enforcement and immigration prioritization. 303 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:13.279 And I kind of want to break down what's happening 304 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:18.319 and why now. I'm trying to sort through my own 305 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:24.799 opinions on it, because on the one hand, there's a 306 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:29.279 part of me that's a little look generally speaking, I'm 307 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.079 in favor of stricter immigration enforcement. I think what Trump's 308 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:36.039 done to actually secure the border has been fantastic, even 309 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.279 the if only the attitude the Trump has created on 310 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.799 the part of Latin American immigrants of don't try, don't 311 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.160 try to cross the border illegally, because it's not going 312 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.200 to work. Trump's going to deport your ass. That has 313 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.680 been the biggest signal success of the first five months 314 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.400 of the Trump administration is to stop that trafficking at 315 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:01.599 the border, so that that's to be applauded and in general, yeah, 316 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.759 I think people who come into the country illegally should 317 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:09.960 be sent back. My problem is, and it's this legal 318 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:15.519 concept of reliance. Okay, you have acted in reliance on 319 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:22.200 certain representations made to you, You have incurred costs or 320 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.160 damages or something based on acting in reliance to what 321 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.480 someone says to you, and then someone pulls the rug 322 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:36.920 out from under you. I see that. So the reliance 323 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.240 angle is one area where generally speaking, you know, I'm 324 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.319 not too sympathetic to you know, I'm not a bleeding 325 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.160 heart crying at every single illegal alien, sob story. At 326 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.240 a certain point, people are adults and they know they 327 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.799 were skirting the law, and they skirted the law that 328 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.240 there are consequences to doing that, and I feel bad 329 00:23:58.279 --> 00:23:59.680 for them. And I'm not saying we should, you know, 330 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.240 whip them with chains or anything, but that you know, 331 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.759 if you're not in the country legally, you gotta go 332 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:12.200 back often. I mean I at a certain level. That's 333 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.480 you know, that there's a little bit of a tough 334 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:17.880 love or whatever whatever you want to call it. The 335 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:21.440 one part of that, though, that gives me pause, is 336 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.839 the ping ponging back and forth that we've seen with 337 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:34.759 American immigration policy. Slightly better control of the border, though 338 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.640 still a lot of illegal immigration happening under Bush, a 339 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.079 lot of illegal immigration happening under Obama, though Obama did 340 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.400 deport quite a few people, Trump locking things down, Biden 341 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:53.359 opening things wide up, Trump locking things down again, And 342 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:58.400 the fact that people came into the country illegally stayed 343 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.839 here because we didn't rea enforced the law for a 344 00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:07.680 long time. Either Obama or Biden gave this these representations 345 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.839 basically to these people, ah yeah, just come on in, 346 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:15.759 ah whatever. And the real problem was Biden letting people 347 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:23.359 in under color of law, but simultaneously him breaking the 348 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.680 law in order to do that. That's the thing that 349 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:32.720 people I think don't grasp. The biggest category of people 350 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:38.279 for which this was problematic was asylum seekers. Okay. People 351 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:40.960 in Latin America figured out, if you go to the 352 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.880 border and you make an asylum claim, that can be 353 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:45.759 a way to get you to the front of the 354 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:50.160 legal immigration line. Why, okay, asylum was a process that 355 00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.759 was set up. I don't actually know the historic setup 356 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.000 for it, but I think the paradigmatic example would have 357 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.519 been someone fleeing from Cuba. All Right, Fidel Castro is 358 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.000 going to kill you and kill your family. You get 359 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.200 a bunch of tires together from the fifty seven Chevy, 360 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.920 you strap them together, you make a little raft, and 361 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:16.079 you float from Cuba to wash up onto Miami Beach. 362 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:20.960 Now did you legally immigrate to America? Did you legally 363 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.599 immigrate to Miami? Well, no, you didn't have time. Fidel 364 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.880 Castro is going to put a bullet through your head. 365 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.640 So no, you didn't have time to contact the relevant 366 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.839 immigration authorities say hey, I would like to apply for 367 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.400 a visa blah blah blah. No, you're fleeing an active persecution. 368 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.960 There's something happening in your home that's so dangerous that 369 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.880 you have to flee Now I could see someone in 370 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:48.079 a situation like that. In Mexico. Your town is controlled 371 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:54.440 by the cartel. They can operate pretty freely throughout Mexico. 372 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.119 You're near the American border, you realize that they are 373 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.960 going to kill you and kill your family because you 374 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.400 don't want to pay them or something, and so you 375 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:08.680 flee to Brownsville, Texas and say, hey, I gotta leave. Like, 376 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.000 if I stay where I am in Mexico, the cartel 377 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.839 completely controls the area. The civil authorities can't do anything. 378 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.680 They can't protect me. If I don't come here, I'm 379 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:22.039 gonna die. My family's gonna die. Okay, I'm sure there 380 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.799 are some people for whom that's legitimate. The problem is 381 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.559 that everyone and their brother realize that's a way to 382 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:33.000 sort of bypass the normal waiting around applications, et cetera 383 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.799 that come with the normal legal immigration process. So you 384 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:43.000 go to the border, you make an asylum claim, and 385 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.680 what has to happen, Well, a judge has to review 386 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.119 your asylum claim, and the American immigration judges are backed 387 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:56.680 up years with asylum applicants all making asylum claims. Now, 388 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.200 what was really happening, Well, the vast majority of people 389 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:08.240 were making bogus asylum claims. They were making claims that 390 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.200 really they just wanted to come to America so they 391 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.799 could make money. That's what it was. That's all it was. 392 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.039 They just wanted to go to America for the same 393 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.799 reason that millions of people for years and years and 394 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.400 years have wanted to come to America, which is more 395 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:25.960 economic opportunity. But they're pretending it's an asylum claim so 396 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.599 that they can kind of get to the front of 397 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.039 the line, don't have to do the normal application process 398 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:37.799 visa dah bah bah bah. Now, American laws says while 399 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.759 you're waiting for your asylum claim to be processed and adjudicated, 400 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:50.400 you are to be held basically in a holding cell 401 00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:59.759