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Speaker 16: And that is the brand new track from Soda which
is spelled sotah. And if you happen to be watching live,
if you're watching the video on Saturday morning, you can
see I've even got my Soda shirt on because those
guys are going to be in today in the third
hour and I cannot wait. And if you've seen some
of the social media activity, well let's just say, if
you haven't watched the video yet, you want to watch
the video. The video for the song Sunrise. It just
dropped last night, I think, and then it's up now.
You can find it on YouTube and of course all
on all their social media. It's so cool and I
cannot wait for these guys to come in today in
the third hour. They've been on the show before, or
at least Casey has. Casey Darren from Soda has been
on the show actually I think a few times now.
Speaker 19: But so so talented. Love that song.
Speaker 16: Jenny was commenting in the chat room because we also
played it to open the show today that she woke
up with it stuck in her head this morning because
it's so catchy, such a great track. So really looking
forward to that. So if you are listening live on Saturday,
make sure you stick around. We have of course, we
are well into our number two New Marrow dose of
Matt Connorton Unleashed, and thank you again of course to
Rachel molein for joining us during the first hour today.
She's just starting out in her career, but I think
she's got a lot of great stuff ahead of her.
Very talented, So welcome everybody. By the way, Jenny is
not with me this week, but if you want to
keep up with everything Jenny is doing, she's been very,
very busy, give her website a plug jencoffee dot com
and follow.
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great stuff.
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June fourteen, twenty twenty five. I want to share a
quick story with you all, and I don't know some
of you might be amused by this. So I made
a purchase on eBay recently and nothing too exciting. I
just bought a computer. I needed another computer for our
home studio because in addition to doing this show here
every week at WM and H and this beautiful studio
that we have here at ninety five point three FM.
Love it here, but we also have a podcasting studio
that I have at home, and obviously there's you know,
you need computers for that.
Speaker 19: And Jenny did a wonderful job. A lot of the.
Speaker 16: The wonderful things that people bring us guests. You know,
they come in, they bring us T shirts and stickers
and all kinds of stuff or even vinyl records, and
Jenny decorated the studio with all that stuff. I should
take some pictures of it. But you know, to support
all the great guests that we have on the show,
especially the ones who bring us stuff.
Speaker 14: We like that.
Speaker 19: We like when you bring us things you're.
Speaker 16: Not required to and we don't expect it, but it's
it's always really cool when people do that. So anyway,
so so we have the podcasting studio at home and
I do a couple of In fact today if you're
listening live on Saturday, this afternoon, Eric Pilter and I
are going to be doing episode seven of Tough Bumps,
our wrestling podcast. I know Melanie and Melanie La Libertay
in the Great State of Vermont, huge fan. It's a
little inside joke, but anyway, so that we'll be doing
that today. But I needed a new computer. I needed
something with a faster processor to do all the things
that we want to do with the podcast. And that's
just one of the ones that we do from the
home studio. So that has no affiliation or connection to
WM and H. That's completely separate. But it streams online.
If you follow me on social media, you'll see all
this stuff. But I needed something with a faster processor,
so I ordered something.
Speaker 19: I ordered a.
Speaker 16: Referb on eBay, a refurbished computer. And you know, some
of these places that you order these computers from, you
can input whatever specs you want. So if you need
a certain processing speed, a certain amount of RAM you know, memory,
so forth, you can. You can put in all the
specifics that you need. A course, the more of any
one thing, any one specification that you add, the more
expensive the computer becomes. But I found a really good
deal on something on a refurbished I mean if I
bought it new, this same computer with the same specs
would have cost me hundreds of dollars. I got this
one really cheap. But so and the seller I bought
it from, they sell a lot of computers and they
have a very high they have a great approval rating,
not approval rating. Sorry, I'm thinking about politics. That relates
to another podcast that I do, which I'm not going
to talk about here on wmn H, but we'll leave
that aside.
Speaker 19: But that's where. That's why the term approval rating was
in my brain. What I meant to say is feedback.
Speaker 16: You know, because on eBay you leave sellers feedback, or
if you're a seller, buyers leave you feedback, et cetera.
That's what I meant to say, feedback, not approval rating.
But the seller had a great feedback rating and whatnot.
So I went ahead and I made this purchase, and uh,
this bought this computer. And so I got it very
fast shipping, and I was pleased with that. Got it
hooked up, and everything seems like it's going to do
everything that I needed to do for the podcast.
Speaker 19: It seems like it's fast enough. Everything's good. Only one problem. Now,
this is a weird problem. So with the keyboard that
came with the computer, I cannot.
Speaker 16: Type a letter T, a capital T, I should say
by holding down the shift key and pressing T.
Speaker 19: I know, if this is boring, just hang with me.
Speaker 16: This is going somewhere absurd and hopefully you'll feel that
the story has a good payoff.
Speaker 19: Or at least an interesting twist to it.
Speaker 16: So I can't type a capital T on the keyboard
that came with the computer unless I hit caps lock
and then hit the T key and then undo the
caps lock and then go back to typing in lower case.
Speaker 19: You know, every other key on the keyboard.
Speaker 16: If I hold down shift and push that letter and
makes a capital letter, that's how you do it when
you type, But not with the T. For some reason,
if I hold down shift and press T, it doesn't
even make a lower case TA. It doesn't make any
T at all. If I don't hold down shift, it
will make a lowercase T. So the KEYT works the
tkey rather, I said KEYT.
Speaker 19: The T key works.
Speaker 16: I believe I'm suffering from an adult onset dyslexia. But anyway,
but I can't make a capital T using the shift key.
So I message the seller. Right this is where it
gets bizarre. I messaged the seller. I said, computer works
okay so far, but there's a weird glitch with the
keyboard that came with it. I am unable to type
a capital T using the shift keys. The only way
to do it is by turning on the caps lock.
So so far, the T is the only key that
is an issue. But I just started using it. This
is the response I got from the seller.
Speaker 19: Check this out.
Speaker 16: I'm reading this to you verbatim. Thank you for reaching
out to us. We apologize for the inconvenience caused. Please
be informed that the caps lock key is used to
make capital letters. The shift is more other tasks and
is not used to capitalize letters. Let us know if
you require further assistance. Let me read that one more
time in case you missed any of that, just part
of it. Please be informed the capslock key is used
to make capital letters. The shift is more other tasks
and is not used to capitalize letters. Now, I'm look,
anyone who knows me at all.
Speaker 19: Knows that I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice person.
Speaker 16: I'm patient, I'm polite, probably too polite, sometimes polite to
a fault. I'm a very diplomatic person. And when I'm
corresponding with someone, whether I'm speaking with someone or I'm
corresponding on the internet, I keep things very polite. And
you know, because people often get angry and get too
angry too quickly and so forth, that's not me.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 16: I'm assertive. I will assert myself, but I don't like
I'm not somebody who gets mad and just starts typing
angry things. I'm not that guy. I never have been,
but I was mad when I read that. I was
legitimately angry because it's like, I'm thinking, Okay, if you're
gonna bs me because you don't want to solve the problem,
just tell me. I'd rather you just write back and
say we're not going to solve this for you. Fine,
I'd rather you just tell me that. I'm perfectly capable
of leaving you negative feedback on eBay and then just
going and buying a keyboard because a keyboard is cheap.
I mean, my god, I'd probably pick up a keyboard
at Walmart for like ten fifteen dollars. I mean, they're
that cheap. I just go buy a keyboard. So if
you're not interesting and helping me, don't bs me. Just
tell me now we're not going to solve this for you. Fine,
I'll leave you negative feedback. I'll go buy a keyboard,
go about my life. But no, they give me this nonsense.
So I wrote back, and again I was angry. I
wrote back in all caps. I wrote wrong, and then
I wrote anyone who has ever typed anything knows that
you hold down the shift key when you want to
capitalize something. This keyboard does that. Also, by the way
except when trying to make a capital T. Don't try
to b s me like I'm an idiot because I
was mad, because that's like the one thing I don't
take from anybody again. I'm very chill, I'm very laid back.
I'm an easy going person. Anyone who knows me personally
will tell you I'm very easy to get along with.
But the one thing I don't tolerate from anyone is
when they try to talk to me like I'm stupid.
Speaker 19: Don't talk to me like I'm stupid. I'm not an idiot.
I know how to type.
Speaker 16: I know that you hold down the shift key when
you want to make a capital letter. And even if
I were an idiot, I would still know that because,
as I said in my message, anyone who has ever
typed anything ever in their life knows that's how you type.
I could not believe you don't use Please be advised,
you don't use the shift key for that. That's for
other things. I could not believe that. I was astonished,
and I was I was mad. I was mad, So
then I got back. Apparently, maybe in some instances it
is good to just go ahead and get angry, because
the response that I got was apologies for the inconvenience. Uh,
please be informed that we have initiated the process and
will be sending you a replacement keyboard. Please let us
know how you would like to proceed, And I said,
thank you, Yes, please send the replacement keyboard. So apparently
they are now sending me a replacement keyboard. But I
just I couldn't believe that, Like, no, you don't use
the shift key for that, you know?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 16: The only thing I do wonder about is is it
possible that an actual human didn't write that. Is it
possible that it's AI and that that was an AI
generated response. But if that's the case, I don't know
if that's better or worse than if an actual human
being sat there and actually tried to tell me that
you don't use the shift key to capitalize letters. I
don't know what's worse. I don't know what's more concerning.
But anyway, so that was my eBay saga. So got
a refurbished computer by the way, just another quick plug.
I think we're doing tough Bumps today at three pm
Eastern time. Check it out online. If you're a wrestling fan.
If you're not a wrestling fan, it's probably not for
you anyway. Moving on, there was some music industry news
A couple of couple of people passed away we should acknowledge,
And this is from the AP. Two people and I
think I think we mentioned this last night on Retrospectrum
Radio with poly c But this is from the AP.
Music revolutionaries sly Stone and Brian Wilson leave life's stage
nearly simultaneously.
Speaker 19: They both just passed away this week.
Speaker 16: I'm not gonna read this whole article to you, but
both were musical geniuses who paid a high price for
their gifts. They burned bright with art they created at
their peaks, and became more moving and meaningful with time,
only to see their creative lights extinguished suddenly through mental
health and addiction issues. Both were eighty two when they died,
Stone on Monday and Wilson on Wednesday. By the way,
I don't know if I should eat well. Yeah, I'm
gonna go ahead and say it is anyone maybe AI
wrote this article.
Speaker 19: I don't. I don't want to distract from.
Speaker 16: The fact that we just lost two musical revolutionaries, as
is mentioned the AP title.
Speaker 19: But does anyone notice anything odd about that paragraph?
Speaker 16: Let me read that again, both were musical geniuses who
paid paid a high price for their gifts. They burned
bright with an art they created at their peaks and
became more moving and meaningful with time, only to see
their creative gifts extinguished suddenly through mental health and addiction issues.
Both were eighty two when they died. Okay, never mind,
I think I misunderstood that paragraph. So the way it
was written, I kind of took it as the author
of the article saying that that mental health and addiction
issues caused them to pass away, when in fact they
were both eighty two years old. And you know, but
so I think it was old age. But but no,
I realize now, I mean, I don't think it's I
don't think it's as artfully written as it could have been,
because it did cause me to misunderstand it a little
bit the first time I read it.
Speaker 19: But but no, I understand.
Speaker 16: Then that, you know, I'm not going to read the
whole thing this people in the article being quoted talking
about talking about how strange a coincidence it is that
they both died the same week, which is odd.
Speaker 19: I don't know why it's a strange coincidence, but anyway,
a couple things about each of them, so there's a
section here.
Speaker 16: Brian Wilson captured the California sound with his late brothers
Carl and Dennis. Beach Boys co founder, Wilson was the
architect of the California sound that captured surfing and sun,
beaches and girls. Yet for all the fun, fun, fun,
there was something much deeper and darker in Brian's abilities
as a composer. It was more than disposable music for teenagers.
He had an unparalleled melodic sense, hearing sounds in his
mind that others couldn't. He could worm his way into
your head and then break your heart with songs like
in My Room and God only knows the tour to
force good vibrations? Had anyone ever heard of the theorem
in before he employed its unearthly wail is a symphony
of both complex that both complex and easily accessible, and
it goes on to talk about his career. Brian Wilson
is a very interesting guy. Now, I'm not the biggest
Beach Boys fan, but certainly a ton of respect for them.
But I have a memory of my dad and I
watched I don't know if he'll remember it.
Speaker 19: This was a long time ago.
Speaker 16: I was either still living at home or the time,
or I might have moved out and was visiting. But
I remember we ended up watching because it wasn't something
we planned. It was kind of a spontaneous thing. But
we watched a documentary and I don't even recall I
don't remember the name of it. Again, it was a
long time ago, and I don't even remember for sure
if it was specifically about Brian Wilson, if he was
the main focus, or if it was a Beach Boys
documentary that just had a lot of Brian Wilson in it,
because obviously it would right because he was such a
key component of the Beach Boys. But Brian Wilson, it
was a really interesting guy. But he did have a
lot of mental health struggles and a lot of people
took advantage of him. And but one of the interesting
things about him was he was such a musical genius
that he kind of took his own talent for granted
in some ways. This specifically stands out in my mind.
A family member of his might have been his daughter
or somebody was at his home and he spontaneously sits
at a piano and he writes something and it's really
really good, and it so impresses the person who was
there at his house hearing him compose this incredible song,
who then said to him, you've got to write that
down or like he creates this song and then he
basically says it was getting late.
Speaker 19: He said, well, I got enough of that. I gotta
turn in. I gotta go to bed.
Speaker 16: And then whoever it was who was there with him says,
you've got to write that down or record that or something.
Aren't you going to document what you just did? That's incredible.
You have to save that, and and he just kind
of shrugged and said, nah, there'll be another one tomorrow
that's just as good, and he just goes to bed.
Speaker 19: But but that's that's how good he was.
Speaker 16: He could he could afford to even just take it
for granted because he had an idea that was so
impressive to this person who's in the room with him,
and it didn't even it didn't even matter to him,
because he's just like, well, there'll be another incredible idea tomorrow.
Speaker 19: What's the matter, Why is it even important? That's that's
how good he was.
Speaker 16: We should also talk about sly Stone, of course, Uh,
there's a part here I'll just read part of this
Stone's skills came and creating a musical world that others
only dreamed of at the time. The family Stone was
an integrated world, black and white, men and women, and
the music they created was a potent mixture of rock,
soul and funk. If it made you move, it made
you think. For a period of time from sixty seven
seventy three, their music was inescapable.
Speaker 19: Dance to the music.
Speaker 16: Everybody is a Star, higher hot, fun in the summertime,
sing a simple song family Affair, thank You. Their performance
at Woodstock was a milestone, and then it goes on
to talk about that he also suffered a period of
drug abuse and so forth, which so many creative people do.
And there's a part here about you know, their legacy
and whatnot. I don't want to get into in all
of it, because obviously you can read this for yourself
online and there are many great tributes, and especially for
Brian Wilson. I've seen a lot today just as I
was preparing for the show, a lot online and for
sly Stone as well. But you can read more about that.
There's plenty of content on YouTube. You can check out
talking about their respective legacies. But yeah, so we did
lose two greats this week and wanted to take a
moment to acknowledge that sly Stone and Brian Wilson. Let's see,
there was also some interesting musical news this week, and
this is something I wanted to talk about. We won't
spend much time on it, but this was This is
an article that just went up on Billboard yesterday. You know,
obviously this show we talk about creativity. We talked to
musicians and other people in the music industry. We love
talking to creative people. I love interviewing creative people. But
a subject that also seems to come up a lot
on the show, not intentionally, but it just kind of
works its way in is mental health. And we talk
a lot about how music affects our mental health in
a positive way, how people dealing with mental health issues,
whether it's depression or or maybe trauma, all kinds of things,
How people use and create art as a form of
therapy in a sense to deal with with their issues.
And so no surprise that a lot of creative people
suffer from mental health issues of their own. There's a
lot of depression, there's all kinds of things, anxiety and
so forth. I got to take a gulp of my
water here. My allergies has been terrible lately. But I
thought this was interesting. You know, Spotify gets a lot
of negativity in the music industry because they pay artists
so little. But this I thought was a positive thing,
so I wanted to highlight it again. This is from Billboard.
Spotify partners with Backline to launch new global mental health
resource hub. Supporting creators well being is essential sustaining a
vibrant music ecosystem, says spotify is head of Social Impact,
Lauren siegel Wergaft.
Speaker 19: So let's look at this briefly. Excuse me.
Speaker 16: It says Spotify is partnered with industry mental health nonprofit Backline,
who I will confess. Excuse me, well, I will confess
I'm not familiar with. I want to learn more about
Backline to launch a global hub of mental health resources
as part of their nascent iHeart and Soul Initiative, which
I think we might have talked about on the show before.
They're a Heart and Soul initiative officially dubbed Heart and
Soul mental Health for creators. The new partnerships, He's Backline
and Spotify joining forces to launch their global Mental Health
Resource Hub, which aims to serve as a comprehensive support
platform for industry professionals around the world. While Spotify first
launched its Heart and Soul initiative in twenty eighteen as
a way of providing support and deepening understanding of emotional
well being amongst its employees, Backline first emerged in twenty
nineteen to connect industry professionals and their family with mental
health and wellness resources. Now just in time, in a sense,
right right before the sorry, right before the onset of
the pandemic. I'm gonna mute my mic for a second,
Sorry about that. The new partnership sees Backline now expanding
their services beyond US borders for the first time, serving
as a response to the growing mental health crisis that
affects industry workers, be it artists, touring crew, and industry
professionals of all levels and locations. Hillary Gleeson, whose Backlines
executive director and co founder, said in a statement quote,
Backline is honored to serve as a steward of Spotify's
investment into the creative community. Bringing our work to scale
is a meaningful way to uplift the well being of
artists all around the world. This collaboration is taking these
individual mental health I'm sorry, these invaluable mental health and
wellness resources beyond borders. Music knows no bounds, and now
people who make music happen of access to care and
compassionate community. Our work together will help ensure that artists
have the resources, support and stability they need to thrive,
both personally and professionally. The new initiative, we'll see backlines
expanding their resources worldwide, including an international multi lingual database
of trusted music industry and mental health support resources and
crisis lines from around the world, and email concierge service
that provides one on one support to aid individuals in
navigating care options and mental health systems in their countries,
and access to their free digital guide Mind and Music,
a mental health guide for the music industry. Additionally, supports
for songwriters and access to wellness events are included as
a free therapy access for ambassadors of Spotify's Equal Glow
and Radar programs. So they have other programs that are
attached to this that also involve mental health.
Speaker 19: So this article goes on.
Speaker 16: It gets pretty detailed, but just you know, I wanted
to touch on that briefly because again, I think that
that's something positive and Spotify gets a lot of negativity
in the music industry, and I'm not saying it's not
well earned in some ways, right, but I'm not saying
anything about I'm not really making any judgments about that.
I just wanted to highlight something positive about that. So
we might hit one other music industry story. And then
if you are listening live on Saturday morning, coming up
in the third hour, we have Soda and that's going
to be very interesting. Of course, we've been spinning their
brand new track Sunrise, which is really really good. The
other thing is so something unfortunately a little more negative.
But we've talked on the show over the past couple
of years about ticketing and regulation, and we talk about
live nation and price gouging and there, you know, all
the things that go on in the music industry, some
of the darker side of it. And I saw this
pop up on Digitalmusicnews dot com, which is a great website,
a great music industry website if you're interested in these issues.
This just went up yesterday. More ticketing regulatory scrutiny, secondary
platform shady reseller connections re emerge in BBC investigation. So
this is something that's happening more across the pond. But
these things can always have an effect globally if you
don't know, and we've talked about it quite a bit.
There was one segment where we kind of went in
depth on this what is a secondary reseller market? Kind
of funny because I was talking about eBay earlier, completely unrelated,
but you know, because obviously on e if you purchase
something on eBay, it's you know, a secondary market of
sorts a different kind. But but when you're purchasing tickets
on a secondary market, so you're not buying them necessarily
from Live Nation or Ticketmaster, same company, but you might
be buying say, for example, you go to Live Nation
and something is sold out. You want to go to
a show and it's sold out, but you might find
tickets to that show from a available from a secondary reseller,
which means another service that seems to have some of
these tickets for a considerably higher price. So in other words,
everyone's heard of scalping, so you might have a secondary
service that bought in bulk some of these tickets when
they first went on sale. So instead of the consumer
having access to those tickets, this reseller bought them, and
now this reseller is selling them at a fty profit.
If that sounds shady and sketchy, I don't know that
I necessarily have a moral or ethical objection from a
capitalism standpoint, but I understand why people don't like it
and why people think it's shady and sketchy. And what
makes it even more shady and sketchy if you feel
that way about it, which you certainly have a right too.
Speaker 13: Is that.
Speaker 16: Is that sometimes these secondary resellers are actually operated by
Live Nation. In other words, they bought up Live Nation
went and bought up some of these secondary resellers. So
you might if live Nation has tickets on sale for
a show and they give the secondary quote unquote secondary
reseller that's actually a subsidiary of Live Nation some of
those tickets. You know that doesn't feel very good to
the consumer, does it Now that maybe you didn't know
that before, and now you're learning that for the first time,
and you're saying, wait a minute, I think I'm really
getting screwed here. So we're not gonna have time to
go into the full article because our guests are here
for the third hour, and I'm really excited to get
them in here. But if you want to check this out,
it is up on digitalmusicnews dot com. Uh, because this
is boiling up again and the BBC is investigating this
over in the UK obviously you know the BBC if
you're not familiar, but British Broadcasting Company or corporation. So
the media is looking into it. This is not an arm,
a regulatory arm of the government that's looking into this
over there. But but there's all a lot that people
don't realize about this and how it really works. And
if you want to check it out digitalmusicnews dot com,
you might learn something and you might be horrified by
some of the things you learn about how this really works.
But you know, the music industry, I mean there's a
lot of there's some bad actors, shall we say, in
the music industry. Well, let's put it that way, So
you got to buyer beware.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 19: Okay, what we're gonna do is I think we're gonna.
Speaker 16: Play a track from Oh this is a great band
that we had on the show recently from Australia, killing
flaw great song called Friends, and this was their newest song.
Speaker 19: We did the American radio premiere of this a few
weeks ago. I love this track. I love it so much.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna give this a spin and we're gonna get
our guests in. If you are listening live on Saturday morning,
Soda is about to join us and you don't want
to miss this. But in the meantime, check this out.
This is Killing Flaw. That's the name of the band.
Great band from Australia and this is called Friends.
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