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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 3: here a Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera alongside
Speaker 3: partner Jagan Zeus. Got our guy Ryan in today. I'm
Speaker 3: already a step ahead of myself and got it right
Speaker 3: for the first hour. We get right for all two hours.
Speaker 3: Thanks Ryan. What are we gonna complain about today? Jay,
Speaker 3: Let's spin the wheel. Let's start spin the wheel, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna land on practice. We're talking about practice. What
Speaker 3: do you think about what's going on with.
Speaker 4: Who can't who can't, who can't see? I'm shaking my
Speaker 4: head right now because this is just stupid. It's just dumb,
Speaker 4: and I I'd be curious to know where this stuff
Speaker 4: is coming from. But apparently, and we saw Justin Spears
Speaker 4: tweet about this yesterday, that the media is no longer
Speaker 4: permitted to report on what they see at practice. That
Speaker 4: only permitted to report on what they get from the
Speaker 4: press conferences. After which we all know they last about
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. You talk to a coach for eight minutes,
Speaker 4: and then you get a player, and that's it, meaning
Speaker 4: you and the general public, you, the season ticket holders, you,
Speaker 4: the fans. That's all you get. And apparently has something
Speaker 4: to do with some reporters talking about stuff in the
Speaker 4: media that somebody in the football program didn't like seeing
Speaker 4: in the media. There's a lots, you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of buzz on on social media about what what all that?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? I can't ream. I think you're talking thirty seven,
Speaker 3: thirty five years ago, right, You and I did this.
Speaker 3: In fact, Gary, Gary the Charnie Durhamburger talked about this
Speaker 3: on Twitter. I'm glad I don't have to cover a
Speaker 3: team living on X and Twitter right now on social
Speaker 3: media because we we went to practice and guess what
Speaker 3: we were able to do, right about it? Outside of
Speaker 3: maybe a thing.
Speaker 4: You couldn't You couldn't talk about plays and plays information
Speaker 4: they ran. They ran this trick play and you couldn't
Speaker 4: do that. And we understood that was true. That strategy,
Speaker 4: I really understand we couldn't talk about strategy. But if
Speaker 4: some dude got hurt and I think we were able
Speaker 4: to report that. That was the whole reason we went
Speaker 4: to practice see if anybody, if any hurt, right quarterback
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right. Uh. And here's the thing, Okay, so it's both
Speaker 3: I think both sides are at fall. Right. So you
Speaker 3: get hurt, some somebody gets hurt, you report it. Uh,
Speaker 3: and now everybody knows, well, guess what is At some
Speaker 3: point they're gonna know, they're gonna they're gonna know, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna say, how did what's his name got hurt?
Speaker 3: It looked like he got hurt. How's he doing? Okay? Oh,
Speaker 3: you know I don't talk about injuries pretty much, right,
Speaker 3: but hey, did your eyes light to you? Did your
Speaker 3: eyes light to you? Yeah, he's carried off in the
Speaker 3: cart exactly.
Speaker 4: You know, you know they're not doing CPR and somebody
Speaker 4: you're gonna report they were doing CPR on somebody.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, give it time, go ask the question. They
Speaker 3: say they don't talk. Now when now you say he
Speaker 3: was well, he was carried off in the cart. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they can't confirm that he's hurt or not. But this
Speaker 3: is what happened.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, Steve, It's ridiculous and it's I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 4: I don't. I guess I don't get the thinking. Why
Speaker 4: you think less about you out in the public is better.
Speaker 3: Than I totally agree with.
Speaker 4: You're trying to sell tickets, you're trying to fill up
Speaker 4: your your your your stadium, tell the arena or whatever
Speaker 4: you want us. You don't even let us tell the stories.
Speaker 4: You get to pick who we get to talk to.
Speaker 4: We don't get to pick that anymore. Now you can
Speaker 4: you can arrange to Okay, I want to do a
Speaker 4: story on X can I interview him? And they set
Speaker 4: they set that up maybe right, or it takes a
Speaker 4: week to get something like that set up. Why they
Speaker 4: don't want the media telling the stories, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think it's Do you think it's new staff,
Speaker 3: new people. Uh, they're kind of just kind of testing
Speaker 3: the waters, treading the waters. Don't want to screw up
Speaker 3: all the above.
Speaker 4: Yes, Steve, you know all of the above. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if you know. Uh, Look,
Speaker 4: Brent Brannan has been in Power Fight Football, He's coaches
Speaker 4: at UCLA and all these places. You know, are there
Speaker 4: are there some guys who maybe aren't used to the
Speaker 4: attention that's coming with all this, all the national attention,
Speaker 4: there's more, there's more award nominations today right for their players.
Speaker 4: So there's all this attention that all these players are getting.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 4: Is it great expectations that they don't like that they're
Speaker 4: under field, that they're under pressure from.
Speaker 3: Well here's another istion. You talk about attention, and you
Speaker 3: talk about stories and you talk about it. We talked
Speaker 3: about this, and I know Donnie calls every now and
Speaker 3: again about this. This is kind of big boy football.
Speaker 3: It is big boy it's big boy football. So we've
Speaker 3: established that. Now, guess what they're doing. They're getting paid
Speaker 3: to play big boy football. At what point do you
Speaker 3: kind of and we've talked about this, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a fine line of treating on my kids or treating
Speaker 3: like big boy football.
Speaker 4: Well, it's more big boy football now than it was.
Speaker 4: And this goes in the other direction. You should be
Speaker 4: able to talk talk about these You should be able
Speaker 4: to talk to these guys.
Speaker 3: So so you work for the Star, I work for
Speaker 3: the Citizen for a number of years. Uh, I'm just
Speaker 3: wondering how it would have flown with my managing editor
Speaker 3: who was kind of like, you know, you have to
Speaker 3: pass get this through. Well, we're going to practice, but
Speaker 3: we're not allowed to do this. I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: they would have said no, well, here's a story.
Speaker 4: There's always a story, right, here's the story that that
Speaker 4: you know, we've talked about it before that weekend, that
Speaker 4: week that Arizona had to buy they're getting ready to play,
Speaker 4: they changed. They had been running, you know, the wishbone
Speaker 4: and the run and shoot right, yeah, and they were
Speaker 4: and they're running it in nineteen nineteen eighty. They had
Speaker 4: been running out of a wishbone formation and in an
Speaker 4: off week they just changed. They just changed the formation.
Speaker 4: All they did was instead of a wishbone, the back
Speaker 4: who was on either the left or the right got
Speaker 4: more in a tail tailback position. So and they were
Speaker 4: calling it the eyebone. So it's basically an eye formation
Speaker 4: with another with another running back on either side on
Speaker 4: the side. And they made that change during the week.
Speaker 4: I went to practice all week. I didn't see it. Okay,
Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
Speaker 3: David Aldrid's ran and wild.
Speaker 4: Right, and look, we we had you know, we knew
Speaker 4: what the rules were that you couldn't talk about that stuff,
Speaker 4: but I didn't see it. So I got called on
Speaker 4: the carpet, you know, after that, after that game, I
Speaker 4: got called the car like how did you miss that?
Speaker 4: You didn't how did you not report on that? And
Speaker 4: I said, I didn't see it. Yeah, I missed it
Speaker 4: well somewhere in the media. But Henry, who was the
Speaker 4: was the SID at the time, the sports information director
Speaker 4: at the time, there was somebody had a note that
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Greg or somebody else,
Speaker 4: said no, we told them they couldn't write about that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.
Speaker 4: And our sports and I don't know if he said
Speaker 4: it in the media or set it directly to our
Speaker 4: sports editor like, how did you know? And I he
Speaker 4: said that, and our sports editor goes, what the hell
Speaker 4: are they talking about? What do you mean you can't
Speaker 4: write about what they're doing in practice? They said, I
Speaker 4: never said that. All I'm saying is that, you know,
Speaker 4: they don't want us talking about trick play, YadA YadA. Yeah, strategy,
Speaker 4: which is fine, but we talked about injuries all the time.
Speaker 4: But the point being that when my sports editor heard
Speaker 4: the SID say that we're not allowed to report on
Speaker 4: things we see, they flipped out. They completely flipped out.
Speaker 4: So you know the answer would be, you know, sports
Speaker 4: editors should be pissed that you can't go to practice
Speaker 4: and and you know what and if you don't want,
Speaker 4: if you don't want the media talking about that stuff.
Speaker 3: Didn't close practice and have them available after the practice. Right,
Speaker 3: So now, Jay, I have practice is over. There's a
Speaker 3: ten minute cool enough period or whatever, and go okay,
Speaker 3: how did it go today?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: It went well, went well, everything was fine. Did anybody
Speaker 3: get hurt or did anything major happen? No? No, how
Speaker 3: do we know that? We don't.
Speaker 4: We don't. And that's say remember Stoops practices were closed
Speaker 4: tight Yeah, I mean those are things were closed something something?
Speaker 3: What that were you doing it there? Well not practicing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's I don't get the I understand.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't want people to know things about
Speaker 4: you because you know, you don't want to get somebody
Speaker 4: competitive advantage and all that stuff. But simple stuff, yeah,
Speaker 4: like like you know what they're going to know your
Speaker 4: guys not playing anyway.
Speaker 3: So what are you what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Right? You know?
Speaker 3: I always bring up that Stoops. They would they thought
Speaker 3: they would have a spy chasing them on sixth Avenue
Speaker 3: looking at the practices. Let's just play if you're better
Speaker 3: than me, kicking kick my hands, if you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean and again when lut when Luke
Speaker 4: shut down the shut down, you know practices, I thought
Speaker 4: that was more about she just didn't like how much
Speaker 4: attention they were.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you exactly why it happened. So I started
Speaker 3: in ninety one covering it, and I'm gonna give kudos to
Speaker 3: a guy why it happened. So at ninety one it
Speaker 3: was open. We'd go, we'd go to practice on the
Speaker 3: road and here he'd go to their shoot around. That
Speaker 3: it's our availability to talk to the kim him at
Speaker 3: the end if there was anything. He was reluctant in
Speaker 3: doing that, but he did it and allowed it. But
Speaker 3: when when Bruce came on the scene, I was ten
Speaker 3: years into this into the program. Bruce and I were practices,
Speaker 3: and then Bruce became kind of Bruce. You know, Bruce
Speaker 3: was being Bruce, and he was there and a lot
Speaker 3: a lot and I was too, but it was Bruce
Speaker 3: being Bruce. And then Luke's kind of like not Anamassi,
Speaker 3: but you know, the back and forth and that let's
Speaker 3: put an end to this and I don't have to
Speaker 3: worry about this stuff. Wow. And that's why it happened.
Speaker 3: That's why it happened. I'm sure if you ask somebody
Speaker 3: gun behind the scenes, that's why it happened. But it
Speaker 3: was nothing, nothing the fairies. It was just listen this
Speaker 3: and that's how it happened. And it continued. Sean was
Speaker 3: even more so. Sean was not available after practices on
Speaker 3: the road or otherwise he was. He was very reluctant
Speaker 3: to do that for whatever reason. But that's how Luke
Speaker 3: just got tired of it. It was just tired of
Speaker 3: it because why do these guys continue to be here
Speaker 3: when they really don't have to be here? And we
Speaker 3: were because I capped out it that Michael had my
Speaker 3: that was my office. Good practice right, good practice right.
Speaker 3: And Bruce did it too, but he was more of
Speaker 3: being Bruce, which he was good at being Bruce. And no, no,
Speaker 3: because you know he's my competitor, he's a good friend.
Speaker 3: So that's how it kind of smiled.
Speaker 4: You know it just again when when when you're when
Speaker 4: you've got a product to sell and that's it. You
Speaker 4: got a product to sell, but you don't want anybody
Speaker 4: to see it.
Speaker 3: What are you doing? That's it? No, that's a great
Speaker 3: way to put it, because that's it. And the boss,
Speaker 3: you know, she's new here and I'm sure she dealt
Speaker 3: with this everywhere. You got a product you sell, but
Speaker 3: you're keeping a secret. Yeah, what do you do? I
Speaker 3: don't think you do this.
Speaker 4: I mean but even Steve, even last year with Jed
Speaker 4: fish and the practice is being open, you still didn't
Speaker 4: get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'll give you this. And maybe the
Speaker 3: right hand doesn't know what the left hand doing and
Speaker 3: we rely on them forgetting our guest guys, and we
Speaker 3: love you guys. Uh. You remember the time when I
Speaker 3: think it was Jeff or somebody in the in the room,
Speaker 3: whoever was X guy s I D saying okay, now
Speaker 3: you have to raise your hand and identify who you
Speaker 3: are for the media, and Jed went like, what the hell?
Speaker 3: So the right hand didn't know what the left hand
Speaker 3: was doing because Jedd wasn't informat. This was gonna happen, right.
Speaker 3: How long did that last? Yeah? Not very, not very
Speaker 3: not very I know you are just I know you are.
Speaker 3: Do you even know what? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It didn't it lasted like a week.
Speaker 3: Right, So you don't want to say maybe they're just
Speaker 3: doing things. Because they're doing things and the people what
Speaker 3: what you don't need this to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ye, no, I yeah, I know it's uh but
Speaker 4: ste my opinion on that goes all the way back
Speaker 4: to when Luke you know, uh close practices. I didn't know,
Speaker 4: you know, the background of the story. But what I
Speaker 4: did know was that we no longer were getting the stories.
Speaker 4: We were no longer getting the personal stories that we
Speaker 4: were getting, you know, when we would interview you know,
Speaker 4: Kerr and Elliott and Anthony Cook and those guys, and
Speaker 4: we could go to their dorm room and spend an
Speaker 4: hour or two with them, you know, and learn about
Speaker 4: their lives. So then we can tell their tell their stories, uh,
Speaker 4: to the to the people who are paying money to
Speaker 4: go see those guys play. And that's the part that
Speaker 4: that's the part that bothered me for a long time,
Speaker 4: that that they did that, and and it's and it
Speaker 4: did start with Loot, but then everybody's doing it.
Speaker 3: Everybody's doing across the board, across the board. Well, it
Speaker 3: reminds me of last year there was who was one
Speaker 3: of the bigger stories in college football last year USC. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a reporter on the sidelines waiting for the press conference,
Speaker 3: two guys talking on the side, saying, right, what are
Speaker 3: you going to say to them? Oh? I don't know
Speaker 3: what you're gonna say. Well, and so it was it
Speaker 3: was part of public conversation, right, And he writes about that, Well,
Speaker 3: you can't because it wasn't part of the press covers.
Speaker 3: What So then they take that with my eyes, Yes,
Speaker 3: and and the credentials removed or suspended for a week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how much about n upoor was that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable. I don't know it make it makes no sense.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if if if, if there's enough
Speaker 4: of an uproarder that they'll they'll change their minds about that.
Speaker 4: But it's it's just and especially when you're Arizona football, right,
Speaker 4: and you're trying to get from forty five forty to
Speaker 4: forty five thousand game to fifty thousand a game, and
Speaker 4: now you're not gonna let the media see and tell Look,
Speaker 4: there's some people out there gonna say, good, get the
Speaker 4: media out of there. Their pain in the ass anyways,
Speaker 4: and then the people are gonna say, you know, what
Speaker 4: I want to read the stuff. I want to know
Speaker 4: how tamac is doing in practice. I want to know
Speaker 4: how no if Afida looks in practice correct. I want
Speaker 4: to know how Jacob Money looks in practice. You know.
Speaker 4: I want to know if they're out there from how's
Speaker 4: justin flow doing right. He's the he's the big mystery
Speaker 4: out there. He's this physical specimen and we don't know.
Speaker 4: And they're not gonna let us see now or tell
Speaker 4: We can see, but we can't talk about it. That's
Speaker 4: the that's even dumber than just saying close the practice.
Speaker 3: Did you see Devil's advocate? No, what you gotta watch that?
Speaker 3: We be fantastic with Dustin who's out al Pacino and uh,
Speaker 3: he says the devil. Let you look, but you can't touch,
Speaker 3: you can't see, you can't feel. He goes into that thing.
Speaker 3: That's what you're seeing.
Speaker 4: That's exactly look. It tells you again to the guys
Speaker 4: in sports information, we.
Speaker 3: Know this is not it's not easy. It's not on you.
Speaker 4: You're just doing what you know what you're being Uh,
Speaker 4: you know what you're being asked to do. But somebody's
Speaker 4: got to have a talk with those guys and say, relax,
Speaker 4: it's relax.
Speaker 3: It's football. It's been they've been doing it for.
Speaker 4: They are not nuclear secrets. Okay, relax, all right, let's
Speaker 4: take our break, quid to come back. We didn't talk
Speaker 4: about who our guests are going to be. We're gonna
Speaker 4: bring in Lamont love It mate. You know, there you go.
Speaker 4: We'll see what Lamont has to say about all.
Speaker 3: This right on this side of the table.
Speaker 4: Ay as a player, and he's a player. At a
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Speaker 3: I'm Sea Rivera. He's jacking off now on the phone.
Speaker 3: We have lamonton love it is Lamite.
Speaker 4: You like how we greeted You didn't even give you
Speaker 4: a chance to breathe, right, you're on the air. Oh,
Speaker 4: I could hear you breathing, because we're in a huff here.
Speaker 3: We're in a huff because we see that people who
Speaker 3: go to practice can't talk about practice. I feel like
Speaker 3: I feel like alan practice talk about practice, not the
Speaker 3: day exactly. How was it back in your day? Did
Speaker 3: you guys mind stuff like the media hanging out.
Speaker 12: I remember them being able to be at practice. I
Speaker 12: remember seeing guys like Jay at practice, So I think
Speaker 12: I think that it was okay during that time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we talked about this your world school, guys,
Speaker 4: and you're being able to go to practice. We just
Speaker 4: grab you after a practice. We wanted to talk to you,
Speaker 4: and we talk to you. You know, I get what
Speaker 4: all the way it's all happening. A lot of practices
Speaker 4: are closed, or if they're open, you know, you only
Speaker 4: get to talk to the people that they picked to
Speaker 4: talk to. But yeah, to me, you know, the question is,
Speaker 4: were we a painting the butt to you guys?
Speaker 12: I didn't think so. There were certain groups, there were
Speaker 12: certain people and talent that work that tended to be
Speaker 12: but you were not one of them. And really, I
Speaker 12: think that the way we felt about it is, you know,
Speaker 12: we love the fact that someone wanted to shine a
Speaker 12: light on us as players and give us a little
Speaker 12: bit of shine, So that was not a problem. I think.
Speaker 12: You know, there's good in bad that comes with that too,
Speaker 12: you know, and sometimes people are being really critical of you.
Speaker 12: You know, we're kids. It's sometimes it's a little tough
Speaker 12: to take, but it comes to the territory when you're
Speaker 12: you're an athlete, so it just comes.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something that we've been talking about. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you're you're student athlete now and you're you're doing
Speaker 3: what you do now, you're making a lot of money.
Speaker 3: How how much is fair game for being critical?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, I agree because I think that when
Speaker 12: you now they're they're basically employees and and they're here
Speaker 12: for a job, and so yeah, I mean, even though
Speaker 12: they're still kids, they're they're they're getting paid like adults.
Speaker 12: So you have to be prepared for both sides of it.
Speaker 12: I've always taken the approach that you know, you just
Speaker 12: have to keep your head down and keep working and
Speaker 12: some people are going to like what you do, but
Speaker 12: you just can't you can't take too much. You know,
Speaker 12: you can't take it too personal no matter what you do,
Speaker 12: because it just comes to the territory.
Speaker 3: In fact, they're getting paid better than the man.
Speaker 12: We were starving in college too. So when when I
Speaker 12: look at these guys, man comes going and eating out
Speaker 12: at the fancy restaurants on the weekends and stuff, It's like, Man,
Speaker 12: if I didn't have my wife's mom who happened to
Speaker 12: live in town, I literally would have probably starved college.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I hear you, I hear you. You know,
Speaker 4: I mean you remember these guys. I remember did a
Speaker 4: summer story on I tell you. I think it was
Speaker 4: David Aldridge and it was John Brandam was he alignment
Speaker 4: at that time, so I knew that they were around
Speaker 4: for the summer. So they say, go do a story
Speaker 4: on what these guys do in the summer and how
Speaker 4: they make it through the summer and stuff. And they
Speaker 4: talked about that that they just didn't have any money,
Speaker 4: you know, that there were you know, four big guys,
Speaker 4: you know, in a two bedroom apartment splitting everything so
Speaker 4: that they could have money to get pizza or go
Speaker 4: to a movie or something, which often they couldn't. It
Speaker 4: was just it was tough it was a hard story
Speaker 4: to write, as I recall, really hard story.
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, and that's what people don't appreciate. It's not
Speaker 12: just that, you know, we didn't have money, but you're
Speaker 12: also trying to be an athlete full time and there's
Speaker 12: requirements that come along with that. You know, you're trying
Speaker 12: to gain weight, you're trying to get strong, and if
Speaker 12: you can't even get the proper nutrition, it's pretty rough
Speaker 12: to do that on top of school, you know, trying
Speaker 12: to maintain maintain your grades and do all that stuff.
Speaker 12: So it's difficult. It was very difficult.
Speaker 3: So and before we get talking about the team, and
Speaker 3: I think we were allowed to do that. We're allowed
Speaker 3: to Well, you we could talk about it to each other.
Speaker 3: It's for you. For you, you're in house, you know
Speaker 3: the call is coming from inside that room, so you're
Speaker 3: doing your job. Do you have to temper yourself a little?
Speaker 3: And then I know you do, but do you do
Speaker 3: that purposely or how do you handle that.
Speaker 12: More specifically? I'm sorry, Well I missed the temper myself referring.
Speaker 3: To me doing your job with the radio and being
Speaker 3: critical or not critical game days.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I think I think my job is to be objective.
Speaker 12: So if I see something that I think is you know,
Speaker 12: not correct or not right, it's okay to talk about
Speaker 12: it as long as you're not just bashing people. I
Speaker 12: think that there's a difference between if somebody is running
Speaker 12: an incorrect route and you say, hey, he's running an
Speaker 12: incorrect route. He's doing it consistently. You know, maybe we
Speaker 12: want to try to figure out why that is, rather
Speaker 12: than seeing the guy stinks, you know, and things and
Speaker 12: he sucks and all that stuff. I just think that
Speaker 12: you just have to be objective because people are not
Speaker 12: stupid either. I mean, they can all see what you
Speaker 12: see too, So I think it's your job to be objective.
Speaker 12: And granted I say I see it through my blue
Speaker 12: and red goggles, but I still try to be you know,
Speaker 12: my perspective. I still try to be objective about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good to hear lament because that's I mean,
Speaker 4: that's really what you know you and you know you
Speaker 4: and Brian. I mean I've said years for years about
Speaker 4: Brian is that he is the most you know, objective
Speaker 4: f or uh announcer you hear on anybody. I mean
Speaker 4: you you hear some of the sec announcers. You hear
Speaker 4: some of the Big ten announcers, you hear the A
Speaker 4: SU announcers, USC some pro and you go, dude, just
Speaker 4: go sit in the seats. You're a fan, you're you know,
Speaker 4: we're trying to We want to know what's happening, not
Speaker 4: why you think that ref sucks and that it's And
Speaker 4: I've said a long that you guys do as good
Speaker 4: a job of that as as really anybody. So I
Speaker 4: just want to throw that out there. So so let's, uh,
Speaker 4: let's let's go to something that may or may I
Speaker 4: think would be near and dear to your heart. What
Speaker 4: do you talk about as much as you can? What
Speaker 4: do you see in these running backs? Because I think
Speaker 4: that's one of the big unknowns about this team in
Speaker 4: terms of what they've got going this year. We know
Speaker 4: about team act, we know about uh THEFEEDA, we know
Speaker 4: about the guys on defense and the receivers and whatnot.
Speaker 4: What what's this running back room look like? What does
Speaker 4: it look like to you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: In camp so far?
Speaker 12: You know, very dynamic. I think Jacorey Cross, Jacory Krosskey
Speaker 12: Merit or Bill Merritt as they like to call him,
Speaker 12: he is He's a special player. I mean from the
Speaker 12: first time. You know, I knew what he did at
Speaker 12: New Mexico, but when I saw him in person, the
Speaker 12: thing that really stood out to me first of all
Speaker 12: is he's powerfully built. He is. I mean, he's got
Speaker 12: some of the best feat that I've seen in a
Speaker 12: long time. I mean, the way this guy can cut,
Speaker 12: stop and start get back to full speeds, it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 12: The way he can maneuver in and out of holes
Speaker 12: and get back to full speed, and just it's really
Speaker 12: really fun to watch. He's got great hands, He's a
Speaker 12: complete back, breaks a lot of attackle breaks, a lot
Speaker 12: of tackles though too. He runs with a very physical style.
Speaker 12: So I really think it would not surprise me to
Speaker 12: see him in the NFL. And and even the coaches
Speaker 12: they feel the family that he's an NFL caliber running back.
Speaker 12: You can't necessarily say that about everybody, but he's a
Speaker 12: he's a really good player. And then behind him, I
Speaker 12: also like the transfer from Quali Tonnley, the transfer from
Speaker 12: Santose State. I mean, just watching him in camp the
Speaker 12: two practices that I was there, he ripped off like
Speaker 12: a sixty seventy yard touchdown. I went untouched and I
Speaker 12: was like only smoked. He's a big time player, you know.
Speaker 12: And if you look at his film at San Jose
Speaker 12: State Saw you saw a lot of the same things.
Speaker 12: You know, while he wasn't even a starter, he was
Speaker 12: constantly making big plays. And he's a physical you know,
Speaker 12: kind of a downhill player almost in the ranging like
Speaker 12: two fifteen or so, a six feet really physical back.
Speaker 12: And Kedrick Grassano another big guy. He's probably the biggest
Speaker 12: out of all of them. He's a really downhill runner,
Speaker 12: really fast, getting transferred in from old miss. Really he's
Speaker 12: also you know, I mean he's a big time player,
Speaker 12: this guy, this guy running, he's the big guy. He's
Speaker 12: kind of in the same vein as DJ from last year,
Speaker 12: but he's also a DJ Williams. I'm sorry, he's in
Speaker 12: the same vein the DJ Walliams. Kind of a big
Speaker 12: downhill straight line runner that can really run you over
Speaker 12: and put some hurt on you. And then we're Speedy,
Speaker 12: it seems, really taking his game to another level this
Speaker 12: year too. The thing that it's different about Speedy this year,
Speaker 12: running with a lot more patients, and he's trusting his speed,
Speaker 12: you know, so he can be patient, let a play development,
Speaker 12: then explode through there and what and his speed as
Speaker 12: apparent when you see him on the field, he's running
Speaker 12: away from people big play after big play, and they're
Speaker 12: finding better ways to use him this year. So I
Speaker 12: think it's gonna be exciting. I really like the room
Speaker 12: this year.
Speaker 3: If you can't tell, you didn't even talk about a
Speaker 3: guy from last year who I thought was on the
Speaker 3: custom of being one of the m vps was Coleman,
Speaker 3: who who they needed to open up Alfina and Teammac right,
Speaker 3: the passing games is helped by them, So that's pretty
Speaker 3: encouraging from the kids in New Mexico if this group
Speaker 3: can help help those two become more dynamic.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, And I really think also the way that
Speaker 12: they run the ball this year, it's a lot different.
Speaker 12: They're you know, without giving away too much, they're their
Speaker 12: their style of running is way more downhill and they
Speaker 12: and they're they're not afraid to push the issue and
Speaker 12: run the ball, whereas last year I felt like the
Speaker 12: run was almost a compliment to the passing game. I
Speaker 12: don't really think that they really used to, you know,
Speaker 12: try to dominate with the run game. But I really
Speaker 12: think this team has the ability with the way that
Speaker 12: they play, and you'll see it. Like I say, I
Speaker 12: don't want to give away lots, but we'll see that
Speaker 12: they can really get after you in the run game.
Speaker 12: And I really I like what I've seen so far.
Speaker 12: So I mean, we've only seen it against them, so
Speaker 12: we've got to see it against somebody else. But I
Speaker 12: like what I've seen.
Speaker 4: So we we've talked a little bit about you know,
Speaker 4: is there's an underrated overrated There's been some stuff about them.
Speaker 4: Where do you think they are kind of on the radar?
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of expectations. I know here,
Speaker 4: but you know, going to this new conference, media and
Speaker 4: the big tuff really doesn't know Arizona think I picked
Speaker 4: to finish fifth, fifth in the league. There's some people
Speaker 4: are saying they're going to be good, some people saying,
Speaker 4: we don't even know. What do you think about all
Speaker 4: of that? What do you think Arizona kind of sits
Speaker 4: in that landscape?
Speaker 12: I think it's it's fair to not say that they're
Speaker 12: going to win the league right away because you really
Speaker 12: don't know what you have. You know, there's some proven
Speaker 12: commodities on the team, and I mean we all know
Speaker 12: Noah team Mac and guys like that and Jonas Savina
Speaker 12: and Manu who got some great players on the team.
Speaker 12: But it's a new staff nevertheless, and so you've still
Speaker 12: got to account for that. Now. I can tell you
Speaker 12: with what I've seen with my eyes, I was taking
Speaker 12: the approach going into it that I wanted to see
Speaker 12: what they looked like offensively before I said anything. And
Speaker 12: I also wanted to see, you know, what changes they
Speaker 12: were making on the defensive side of the ball, how
Speaker 12: that works. And I could say from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 12: they are. They were really aggressive and they're going to
Speaker 12: cause problems for teams defensively. I can say that was
Speaker 12: I feel like with a with a measure of confidence
Speaker 12: that they're going to cost teams problems on the defensive
Speaker 12: side of the ball just with what they're doing schematically
Speaker 12: and in the way that they are attacking. It's good.
Speaker 12: It's really good. And on the offensive side, I've been
Speaker 12: pleasantly surprised because I really didn't know what I was
Speaker 12: going to see from the offense because they were they're changes,
Speaker 12: you know, they that felt like they had a good
Speaker 12: thing going offensively last year. So they've They've done a
Speaker 12: good job of melding what they did a little bit
Speaker 12: of last year with some new stuff. And I have
Speaker 12: seen some more explosive plays out of this offense than
Speaker 12: I saw it last year, which is pretty neat. So
Speaker 12: I think that, you know, I really think that they've
Speaker 12: they've found a nice balance with the offense. So I
Speaker 12: feel I feel pretty confident about what I'm seeing. I'm
Speaker 12: not ready to say unnike these guys a chance. I
Speaker 12: want to see how it looks to get somebody else.
Speaker 12: But you know, it's been competitive, it's been back and forth,
Speaker 12: and that's what I like to see, you know, in practices.
Speaker 3: So how long have you been in the in the
Speaker 3: job you've had at the radio.
Speaker 12: Hello, I'm approaching twenty twenty one or twenty two years,
Speaker 12: Come on.
Speaker 3: Twelve or something. Come on, man. The reason I asked, though,
Speaker 3: is this year there's a lot of anticipation. But I
Speaker 3: think we talked about it being maybe a little tempered
Speaker 3: in other places, Like Jay said, what do you think
Speaker 3: because one of the things we talked about a lot.
Speaker 3: At least Jade knows this Arizona plays really well. One year,
Speaker 3: ten wins whatever, and the next year's a bust. What
Speaker 3: do you how do you look at this optimistically compared
Speaker 3: to the previous twenty one years.
Speaker 12: Well, it's hard to not be optimistic when you've got
Speaker 12: guys like, you know, Noah Fafita and Jonas vavna Is.
Speaker 12: He's a surefire NFL player. I mean, some people think
Speaker 12: t Max is one of the best receivers in the country.
Speaker 12: When you've got skilled players like they have, and it's
Speaker 12: and they've got some pretty good players on both sides
Speaker 12: of the ball. And I mean I've I've watched these guys,
Speaker 12: you know, compete, and I've watched last I feel like
Speaker 12: I you know, I trust my eyes and what I'm
Speaker 12: seeing and I feel really good about it. The only
Speaker 12: thing that concerns me more than anything is is you
Speaker 12: know what the depth is going to be like. And
Speaker 12: that's always an issue, particularly with programs such as such
Speaker 12: as Arizona. You know, usually when you're going to places
Speaker 12: like you know, Ohio State and you know, places like that,
Speaker 12: they just stockpile four and five star players and they're
Speaker 12: just waiting for the next guy to, you know, just
Speaker 12: to come up. We're not We're not that, so, you know,
Speaker 12: like we always need a little bit of luck with
Speaker 12: injuries and things of that nature. And we've got to
Speaker 12: make sure that, you know, we're we're spot on in
Speaker 12: terms of like our conditioning and things like that. And
Speaker 12: I really feel like they found something with these with
Speaker 12: their strength and conditioning staff. So I think they're doing
Speaker 12: a lot of everything. You know, they're doing the right
Speaker 12: things to get themselves in position. But you still have
Speaker 12: to have a measure of luck in this game, because,
Speaker 12: I mean football, injuries are part of the game of football,
Speaker 12: and so you know, you have to figure out a
Speaker 12: way to overcome that.
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of speaking of that, so we as well
Speaker 4: know you know, you're one injury away from you know,
Speaker 4: a season just collapsing on you. And I hate to
Speaker 4: talk about those things, but tell us about the backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: You know, what happens if nor Fafida goes down or
Speaker 4: is having a bad year or whatever. Who's back there?
Speaker 4: And who have you been impressed by anybody?
Speaker 12: I think Cole Tannebaum's done a nice job. I feel like,
Speaker 12: you know, I've seen him last year anyway, and and
Speaker 12: he's he's a smart guy. He seems to be a
Speaker 12: steadying force back there, and he throws the ball better than,
Speaker 12: you know, than I expected, and so I think it's
Speaker 12: probably it's going to be between him, and it's also
Speaker 12: going to be between you know, the Braiden dormant, between
Speaker 12: him and Braiden, and Braiden's done some nice things in
Speaker 12: camp as well, so I think that's that's where the
Speaker 12: battle is at. How much confidence do I have in him?
Speaker 12: You know that I don't know. I haven't seen him
Speaker 12: in game type of situation, so I can just go by,
Speaker 12: you know, the talent that I see, and they both
Speaker 12: have got talent, so that's not in question. I think
Speaker 12: the issue is, you know, what does it look like
Speaker 12: when someone's firing live live MSU. So that's that's that's
Speaker 12: what it comes down to. So we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 12: all they can do is try to skrimmage these guys
Speaker 12: and give him as much reps as possible and you know,
Speaker 12: take them through all the mental aspects of it. But
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, you're preparing for a
Speaker 12: starter and you're trying to get a backup ready with
Speaker 12: lim it wraps. So it's just how it goes.
Speaker 3: Well, the Moon thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll see, we'll see you out there on the
Speaker 4: field if they let us.
Speaker 12: Yeah, nonsense going on, So hopefully you can get back
Speaker 12: out there. Yeah, I hate to see.
Speaker 4: That, thanks so much. Uh, we're gonna just be jerks
Speaker 4: about this, aren't we.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, we're not thinking about this. We
Speaker 3: don't even go to them.
Speaker 4: I mean right, it's no sweat off us right now.
Speaker 3: We're not defending anybody, including ourselves, you know what.
Speaker 4: We're standing up for guys like Justin and David Kelly
Speaker 4: and Putting, all those guys that go out there all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 3: As Justin said on his and his Twitter, he's gonna
Speaker 3: do the best job he can and and we we
Speaker 3: we know that right, and we'll find out stuff about
Speaker 3: what's going on.
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Speaker 4: We'd like to hear from here, you know, getting through
Speaker 4: what we were talking about with Lamont, I think the running
Speaker 4: back thing is, you know, we talked about Fafee, and
Speaker 4: we talk about team app we talk about Jacob Mont
Speaker 4: and those guys on defense. I think what's going to
Speaker 4: really determine what this season goes like is what happens
Speaker 4: with the running backs. And if you know, I know,
Speaker 4: people say, well, that guy played in New Mexico and
Speaker 4: that guy played at San Jose State, but that guy's
Speaker 4: also a year older, a year more mature, both from
Speaker 4: a physical standpoint a mental standpoint. They're excited as all
Speaker 4: hell to come and play at Arizona as opposed to
Speaker 4: being in the Mountain West Conference. You're going to get
Speaker 4: their best and if they're that physically talented and just
Speaker 4: that you know they have the physical capabilities, I think
Speaker 4: it's going to be go a long way toward figuring
Speaker 4: out what this team is going to do this.
Speaker 3: No, I totally agree with you that running game was
Speaker 3: gonna should be fun, should be nice. Like I said
Speaker 3: Coleman to me, and I said a few times last
Speaker 3: year right that he was, in my mind one of
Speaker 3: the key players.
Speaker 4: If not, he's he's the guy that really got six
Speaker 4: yards of going in in that in that second half
Speaker 4: of the six.
Speaker 3: Yards a game you beat out and that gives you
Speaker 3: some room and third down, second down to do some stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, if they can duplicate that or keep
Speaker 3: close to that, that's that's great.
Speaker 4: And all you hear about this kid from New Mexico,
Speaker 4: j Cory Krosskey merrit is that he's a beast and
Speaker 4: you know we you know, and when when Lamont, when Lamont,
Speaker 4: who's the running back, says, I love his feet and
Speaker 4: what he can do in.
Speaker 3: A long time. You didn't see that A long.
Speaker 4: Time, I mean twenty one years been doing I.
Speaker 3: Thought he said like ten or twelve.
Speaker 4: I still I still have a picture of Uh. It
Speaker 4: was it was reporting day, you know, when he came
Speaker 4: in as a freshman.
Speaker 3: What year was this, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: It was for the eight eight season. God, I think
Speaker 4: eighty eight season eighty nine, I can't remember, but you know,
Speaker 4: one of the two years that I covered, and uh
Speaker 4: and and all all the players, you know, the new
Speaker 4: recruits were gonna be a Michale and so we went
Speaker 4: over to Michale they were and I just remember walking
Speaker 4: up and yeah, he and a couple of other guys
Speaker 4: from the LA area who knew each other, were just
Speaker 4: sitting in the seats, you know, at McHale, and I
Speaker 4: just went up and started talking to him and thinking,
Speaker 4: these guys are children, Oh yeah, you know, and and
Speaker 4: these guys were in high schoo last year they were
Speaker 4: going to their homecoming dance. Now they're here to play,
Speaker 4: you know, play football. You're talking them was a very
Speaker 4: highly recruited guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And his brother yeah yeah brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and and uh but anyways, it just good.
Speaker 4: I get that vision. I think he's been doing this
Speaker 4: twenty one, twenty one years. It's crazy. But anyways, when
Speaker 4: Lamont says, you know, I like what this these guys do,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, there might be something there that's
Speaker 4: gonna that that's gonna make a difference for Arizona when
Speaker 4: this season gets going.
Speaker 3: One of the things that you said you didn't want
Speaker 3: to talk about it, and I don't either, but we're
Speaker 3: to talk about it anyway.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Injuries, right, obviously we remember when Scooby got hurt that
Speaker 3: kind of do you a few.
Speaker 4: Things and and and and got a concussion and the
Speaker 4: whole bit. It killed that whole season.
Speaker 3: And what sport do they play? Football? Guess what happened,
Speaker 3: and things happened, and not to not to jinx or whatever,
Speaker 3: but things do happen. So we'll see what happens, see
Speaker 3: how they can avoid avoid that. And then you know, look, look,
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy, what was a freshman first rounder. You expect
Speaker 3: him and then all of.
Speaker 4: A sudden said in one practice or one game, uh
Speaker 4: preseason game, and he's gone.
Speaker 3: He's gone here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But then again, on the other hand, you know,
Speaker 4: if Arizona you've had quarterbacks get hurt and you've gotten
Speaker 4: yourself into a better situation. Happened when colil Take, uh
Speaker 4: you know, got hurt when cli Take came in, and
Speaker 4: then when when Noel came in last year. Although it's hard,
Speaker 4: it's hard to think that there's anybody and you know
Speaker 4: in the quarterback room better than Fefeeda right now.
Speaker 3: Right because you know why the players play.
Speaker 4: Harder for him. Lamon's gonna kick your But no, we
Speaker 4: talked about love it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: N He's gonna beat you up.
Speaker 3: We keep I didn't bring that up again because he's
Speaker 3: laughing me. But hey, four out of five, Dennis, tell me,
Speaker 3: I'm okay with the four or five to tell you
Speaker 3: agree with me. After a while, you finally agreed with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think you know a friend of mine who
Speaker 4: he was talking more on on you know, high school sports.
Speaker 3: Uh did you ask him?
Speaker 4: He just said, he just said, the players know who
Speaker 4: should be playing and when those guys are playing, they
Speaker 4: play harder. Yes, yes, the players know, yes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: The players know who the starting point guard should be.
Speaker 4: The players know who the starting quarterback should be. The
Speaker 4: players know you know who the who the starting pitcher
Speaker 4: or the shortstop should be. And then when those guys
Speaker 4: get in the game, they feel they feel better, right,
Speaker 4: they feel obligated is a good word. But they also
Speaker 4: feel like their team is better and it gives them
Speaker 4: more bouncing their step or whatever gives them some momentum.
Speaker 3: You use, you use your word, I'll use mine. But yes,
Speaker 3: I mean people lamar will not to be. But you
Speaker 3: guys know it's true. It's true because I've seen it
Speaker 3: too many times.
Speaker 4: You know, I think you wanted to kick your butt.
Speaker 3: The thing about it is it also works the other way.
Speaker 3: If if someone if a coach, I'll see a coach,
Speaker 3: because it has to be a coach plays the wrong
Speaker 3: people or designates the captain the wrong person that's captain.
Speaker 3: That's a bad thing.
Speaker 4: It effect. It affects things like the locker room, It
Speaker 4: affects the huddle. Yes, you know, this guy might might
Speaker 4: not die for a ball that he might have dove
Speaker 4: for if it was somebody else, those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Present believe that, right, Okay, no, no.
Speaker 4: And that's why you think, you know, when you hear
Speaker 4: these guys talk about how much you know they love
Speaker 4: each other and all this kind of stuff, and you go,
Speaker 4: that's hochy. Well it's not hokey if they believe it.
Speaker 3: Sure, and they love each other more when they're winning, right,
Speaker 3: and they don't like each other more.
Speaker 4: But but on the on the flip side that though,
Speaker 4: when they aren't losing, and if they feel like they're
Speaker 4: all on the same page and all in it together, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know it, it helps them get through those things.
Speaker 3: Well, let me visit four or five years ago. Four
Speaker 3: years ago, I guess now, someone, do you think do
Speaker 3: you think that they were playing hard that year?
Speaker 4: Nobody was walking through a wall for him?
Speaker 3: And okay, no one was walking through the wall. And
Speaker 3: I know that we didn't talk about it because we haven't.
Speaker 3: And Tucson, this media stuff, it's Tucson. Everyone loves everybody, right,
Speaker 3: everybody loves the games. You're reporting a team, you like,
Speaker 3: they're not gonna say they gave up on the coach.
Speaker 3: No they're not, they're not. But guess what you see.
Speaker 4: They gave up. I gave up on the right. Everybody
Speaker 4: gave up on that, damn coach.
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna say it, you're not gonna write it.
Speaker 3: But you know that, you know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, because there's no point you
Speaker 3: know what you know and you know what you see?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, and we and we knew what that yeah,
Speaker 4: And you know, I remember, towards the end of the time,
Speaker 4: I was hoping, against hope that you know, that players
Speaker 4: would just come together, come together and say, in spite
Speaker 4: screw and spite up. Right, Look, Okay, this guy's you know,
Speaker 4: he's screwing this up and he's messing up our season,
Speaker 4: but we're all still in this and let's you know,
Speaker 4: I just kept hoping that that would happen. But it
Speaker 4: must have been so bad that they just didn't even want.
Speaker 3: To be you know, you brought that up. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Mondays Friday, we talked about having Ricky Honey on the
Speaker 3: show that day, Right, And that's rushing to the game,
Speaker 3: me rushing the game, You're rushing home to watch it
Speaker 3: and thinking everybody hoping against right and then by the
Speaker 3: time you turn the TV on, you're down whatever you're down.
Speaker 4: By well, they were down with two touchdowns in fifty
Speaker 4: six seconds or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you thinking, how bad is this gonna get?
Speaker 4: Is this gonna get? They got and it kept getting
Speaker 4: where we couldn't even imagine how bad it was gonna get.
Speaker 3: No, if someone would have said that the score to
Speaker 3: you ten to one on twenty no, no, no way,
Speaker 3: keep your money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no chance, no chance at all. But yeah no,
Speaker 4: so yeah, so anyways, but and that's kind of why
Speaker 4: I was asking the question about the quarterbacks, is that
Speaker 4: you know, okay, who's back there? But I mean I
Speaker 4: think if I recall, Dorman was a pretty pretty hig
Speaker 4: rating quarterback, and and so these guys, they got guys,
Speaker 4: and so we'll see what.
Speaker 3: Then he fits your airport team type of thing. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, tall guy.
Speaker 4: He's a good looking tall okay, but Steve, you know, again,
Speaker 4: that depends on what kind. I mean, he's a completely
Speaker 4: different player from he's a foot than it. You know,
Speaker 4: so what you know, what, what do they do different
Speaker 4: with him that they that they don't do with vice versa?
Speaker 4: Or do they just do the same thing and that,
Speaker 4: and that they kind of fit that.
Speaker 3: Way well, right, and they probably are totally different players.
Speaker 3: Look at Dolaura, who was more of a gunslinger type
Speaker 3: of I'll get you out of this mess type of quarterback,
Speaker 3: when Faffieda was more of a let's do this with
Speaker 3: a process, right, you know. And and I'm sure that
Speaker 3: had something to do with the players because they were thinking,
Speaker 3: what's what's he doing now, what's the Laura doing now?
Speaker 3: Trying to do this and do that and do too
Speaker 3: much when it was all they needed was something just
Speaker 3: to move him down the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he did. I mean he was Look, you know,
Speaker 4: it's fafia guy who's gonna, you know, be launching the
Speaker 4: ball down the field, you know, four or five, six
Speaker 4: times a game. No, but that's not what he does.
Speaker 4: He is an accurate passer who just's going to move
Speaker 4: the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, because I asked you
Speaker 3: this about your corporate world, not about your journalists world,
Speaker 3: because I've been i haven't been a boss, and I'm
Speaker 3: not don't like being a boss. So you have this
Speaker 3: guy or two. I'm sure you've had a guy, the gunslinger,
Speaker 3: the guy who hit a home run. And did you
Speaker 3: ever have to temper him or you just let him
Speaker 3: hit the home runs knowing that he's going to strike
Speaker 3: out a lot.
Speaker 4: I my as a relations to sports, I'm a you know,
Speaker 4: let's let's not strike out all the time. Let's not
Speaker 4: trade all the strikeouts for a homer, right, I like,
Speaker 4: I like a consistent and then probably more, you know,
Speaker 4: I guess on the business side, do I like somebody
Speaker 4: who can consistently do a good job? Yeah, not who's
Speaker 4: spectacular here but screws it up over here.
Speaker 3: That's that You've you've had those, right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: And how have you handled h I fired him? So
Speaker 3: the home run? You didn't need the home run, now,
Speaker 3: you just needed the single.
Speaker 4: I need somebody who could hit singles and doubles all
Speaker 4: day every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and and the guy who you know would
Speaker 4: do an incredible job on and saying annual report, but
Speaker 4: crapped all over the place over here. No, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: I think I think if you give managers ten managers,
Speaker 3: that nine of them would take that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: just yeah, because you know, because.
Speaker 4: There's a place for the home run here, right, but
Speaker 4: but you know, but sometimes you need a single or
Speaker 4: even a walk, you know, or you need to just
Speaker 4: get stick your stick your leg out there and get
Speaker 4: hit by a pitch.
Speaker 3: Not Ryan's because he's too thid get a bruise me
Speaker 3: too back in the day. Yeah, No, it's different qualities
Speaker 3: of leadership one and to the players, you have to
Speaker 3: know the players you have.
Speaker 4: Right, you do you do? And again, Steve, you know,
Speaker 4: we got a day close. Every day we get a
Speaker 4: little closer, and I'm just I really want to you
Speaker 4: what this is gonna look like. I almost can't wait
Speaker 4: to see what this is gonna look like. We're still
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm looking forward to if I
Speaker 3: hope it. Do we get desire at some point because
Speaker 3: I would like to ask you just philosophy in terms
Speaker 3: of the tickets we had Jr. Was a JR called
Speaker 3: yesterday about the not whole gang? I mean, just her
Speaker 3: to say no, that's not possible. Why and what would
Speaker 3: be the wheelhouse number to get more fans in there?
Speaker 3: You know, you have your your your blue blood people
Speaker 3: who buy tickets like you and the high pricers who
Speaker 3: go into sands and go into the But what would
Speaker 3: be the what would be the you know, the the
Speaker 3: ticket price that would get it full? Is it a
Speaker 3: twenty dollars ticket? Is it twenty five dollars ticket? Is it?
Speaker 4: You know, we struggled with you know, I had to
Speaker 4: do a lot of that at the Sugar Skulls. You know,
Speaker 4: we struggled with with, you know, setting ticket prices. You
Speaker 4: know what what what what dollar value ticket do you
Speaker 4: need to have?
Speaker 3: Okay, So and you're in tu soon right, Tucson summer
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So what was your biggest thing and
Speaker 3: you were new? I think what was your biggest obstacle?
Speaker 3: We got we gotta co.
Speaker 4: Hey, you're on the air and eye on the ball, fellas.
Speaker 13: I had to call in again today about a minute.
Speaker 4: Got about a minute, Jim.
Speaker 12: Oh, it only take ten seconds to tell you that
Speaker 12: your team blew another saved today.
Speaker 4: You don't think I was watching?
Speaker 3: I was, and I figured he was. I was.
Speaker 12: That guy's thirty eight years old. These pitched for eleven teams,
Speaker 12: and the doctors have him in a high level of world.
Speaker 4: Yeah against the first place team. I know, I know,
Speaker 4: I know, I wanted to smack Dave Roberts in the
Speaker 4: back of the head.
Speaker 3: Who's the pitcher? Thank you?
Speaker 4: Jim uh was Iton Hudson is well, okay, what are
Speaker 4: we doing? Thank you?
Speaker 12: Jam home run hitters go. We talked. We taught kids
Speaker 12: to hit the ball hard up the middle and accept
Speaker 12: whatever it does.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 3: Let the let the bat.
Speaker 12: Head determine the flight of the ball. Don't try to
Speaker 12: swing at an angle or you know any of that.
Speaker 3: Babe.
Speaker 4: Ye, well guess thank you, jem I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: What do they teach them now? Bad angle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, bad launch angle.
Speaker 3: Launch angle, all that stuff. What was it going? So
Speaker 3: we're talking when we get to desert the price range
Speaker 3: price Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I know that there's a lot of
Speaker 4: fans who are fans because they started in the k
Speaker 4: not hoole section. They're they're out there. You know, it
Speaker 4: was five it was I think for us it was
Speaker 4: five bucks for the entire season. Well, you pay five dollars,
Speaker 4: you'd get a you'd get a pass a card and
Speaker 4: that's how you got into those games.
Speaker 3: You swipe it or something.
Speaker 4: No, there was no swiping. You just walked into the
Speaker 4: you walked to the k not hole gate and you
Speaker 4: showed him your I D Card and you and they
Speaker 4: let you in.
Speaker 3: They let anybody like that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like Disneyland, just kind of you have an
Speaker 3: eat ticket, a seat ticket and ticket.
Speaker 4: I was. I was fifteen years old, fifty years ago, Steve.
Speaker 4: You got to remember that.
Speaker 3: Time. Jimmy was a coach.
Speaker 4: See for us, it was a challenge because we we'd
Speaker 4: get into the knothole section and immediately start plotting how
Speaker 4: we were going to get out of the nthole section
Speaker 4: and go sit up in the regular seats. Because they
Speaker 4: had monitors to keep a bunch of you had to
Speaker 4: ask to go to the bathroom. Oh really, yeah, there
Speaker 4: were monitors, you know, not the bleachers because they were
Speaker 4: those short bleachers and to say I need to go
Speaker 4: to the restroom and say okay, So we'd go and
Speaker 4: then we'd go one by one. Then we wouldn't come back.
Speaker 3: Let's get out of check check for his car to
Speaker 3: the little check for his car commercial, come back and
Speaker 3: get some breaking news from you.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll be right back