Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
Be Serious Podcast d This week we are going back
into nineties grunge and tackling Stone Temple Pilots say.
Speaker 2: I am standing like a loan at somebody gave me
because I needed a house. I don't know, it just
came out.
Speaker 1: That's terrible.
Speaker 3: We're gonna need a drug test on mile three.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast.
We are here to compare Stone Temple Pilot's Core to
Allison Chain's Dirt. If you missed our last two episodes,
we covered the history of Alison Chain's beginning to Bitter
Bitter End, then we went through Dirt track by track,
and today we are here to talk about the history
of Stone Timple Pilots and we will be covering Core
track by track with our dear friend and longtime supporter
Brad Moore.
Speaker 1: I know I'm excited to meet Brad and he's a
big Stone Table Pilots guy. I know you're a big
Stone Table Pilots guy. Everybody it seems like in the
nineties was like handed a copy of Core and said
you must have this to enter college.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wasn't in college yet at that point, but
I was definitely loving Core before we get rolling. I
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all the support that you've given us. Jason, tell me
the first time you remember hearing something about STP.
Speaker 1: My first time was when Plush went next level the
summer of ninety three. Right, yeah, so I know Sex
Type Thing was their first single and their first video,
but it just, I mean, I just kind of bypassed me.
I wasn't that familiar with it. But then every time
I turned on the radio the summer of ninety three,
it was Plush, Plush, Plush, Lush.
Speaker 2: I talked to my brother this weekend, just kind of
called out of the blue, and I said, hey, you know,
we're going to be covering STP. And I can remember
the first time that I heard anything about STP. I
was riding in the car with my brother and he said,
I heard this pearl Jam sounding band and I was like,
was it Pearl Jam And he said no, it was
a Pearl Jam sounding band and I was like, okay, yea.
And within the week I had heard whatever the song was,
whether it was Plush or Sex Type Thing, I don't remember,
but I was like, oh, this is the band, this
is the band that he is referring to. But it
wasn't long before I was at Hastings picking out my own.
Actually I think this might have been a BMI.
Speaker 1: I might have gotten Columbia House Yeah, that's funny because
I had Columbia House and it could have easily been
that for me as well.
Speaker 2: For all I know, I might have gotten Core and
Dirt on the same one CD for one penny order.
Speaker 1: That's a heck of an order right there. Yeah, these
guys rolled through Tulsa, Oklahoma. I remember they played the
Zoo Amphitheater. I didn't go, but I remember wanting to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I never saw these guys in concert. That was
not a big concert goer when I was a kid,
but I would have loved to have seen them back
in the heyday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okayde This is Stone Temple Pilot's Core versus Alis
and Chain's Dirt. Core is Stone Tumble Pilot's first album,
Dirt is Alison Chain's second album, but they both came
out on the same day in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago this month these albums were released. Did
these albums sound thirty years old to you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: No, no, But it's interesting having listened to interviews that
Scott Wiland gave with Howard Stern, it gave me an
appreciation for what we had in the nineties that basically,
after about early two thousands, you didn't have anymore, and
that was that you went to Hastings and you bought
an album, or you ordered BMI CDs or tapes or whatever.
Columbia House was a cheap and beautiful thing that doesn't
exist anymore because people don't buy albums anymore, I know.
And so not only are people not buying records, that's
a thing, but because of that, record companies have lost money,
which means we have a decrease in quality of music
that's being produced because you don't have the money to
create a big production, so you use cheaper ways to
do things, computers and such. And because of that, those
artists of that time, like Scott Wiland and like some
of those other guys, in order to maintain that lifestyle
that they had grown to appreciate in the nineties, when
all of a sudden the two thousands rolls along and
nobody's buying music anymore. We're all downloading it and napstering
it or whatever, then suddenly you have to go tour
substantially more than you did before just to maintain your
standard of living. And if like Scott Wiland, you've been
through a couple of divorces, you've got to do it
just to be able to pay your child support, which
he did not do. Well, yeah, it was troubling.
Speaker 1: His money went elsewhere sadly. Well, yeah, hey, you know
you mentioned Napster and you mentioned Pearl Jam. I thought
this was funny. The song Creep by Stone Tiple Pilots.
There's some sort of problem with the naming of the songs.
They can ever pick the right title because every time
they choose the title, it's not really in the song.
But I thought it was funny on Napster. The song
Creep is most commonly referred to as half the Man
I Used to be by Nirvana.
Speaker 2: Which is funny because Radiohead we mentioned last time. Radiohead
had a song called Creep as well, which was Lane
Staley's favorite song of that time period. They said, mate,
you know, this is the best song that I've heard
in three years when it first came out. Its song,
and it was a constant source of confusion for me
of which Creeper were we about to listen to? Is
the Radiohead version or is it the stone Tiple Pilots.
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, Well at least they say creep in
the song, right, right, yes, put it in there, right okay,
so my history starts in nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 2: What In nineteen fifty three, a company called Chemical Compounds
was founded by three businessmen, Charles Dwight Liggett, Jim Hill,
and Robert Deehart with three thousand dollars startup capital in
Saint Joseph, Missouri. They started the company Chemical Compounds Now.
The next year, actor Scott Marlowe made his acting debut.
Nineteen fifty four, made his acting debut in a movie
called Attila, starring mister Anthony Quinn and Miss Sophia la Writt.
By nineteen sixty, he was in a movie called The
Subterraneans with actor Roddy McDowell. Fright Night, There you Go
throw back to our Fright Night episode Very good. He
was also in many episodes of Have Gun, We'll Travel.
I'm not going to sing the song for you today.
Go listen to stand by Me if you want to
hear it. So after nineteen sixty, The next year, Scott
Marlowe had his first little brother, whose name was Dean.
Because Scott Marlow's given name was Ronald Richard Delio Wow.
His very much younger half brother, Dean, was born in
nineteen sixty one. Five years later, he had another half
brother who they named Robert. That's Robert and Dean de Leo.
A little later on that year, a guy named Eric
Kretz was born, and the following year we saw the
birth of mister Scott Wiland.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I thought you were going all the way
back to like the birth of Heroin or something like this.
I was like, nineteen fifty three, what are we talking
about here?
Speaker 2: Well, the Chemical Compound Company. It's going to come up later,
but not now. Just save it, put a pin in it,
think about it, and you know where it's going to go,
but you may not. Listener, You'll have to hold on
and see where it comes back up again. Okay, I
am at your feet.
Speaker 1: Do you lead us down this trail to where we're going?
Speaker 2: Okay? So Scott Wiland was not born Scott Wiland. He
was born Scott Klein. His parents ultimately got divorced, his
mother remarried. He was adopted by his father, whose last
name was Wyland, and that's how he became Scott Wiland. Yes,
he lived in Ohio. The DeLillo brothers grew up in
New Jersey. Eric Kretz grew up in California. But ultimately
Scott decided to go out to California and Robert decided
to go out to California and they started, you know,
seeing girls going to concerts. Well, sure, and they go
to a Black Flag concert and they run into each
other and they're like, oh, hey, how's it going. Yeah? Good,
And they start talking about their girlfriend and it turns
out it's the same girl I hated.
Speaker 1: Hi. When that happens, well, it ends up.
Speaker 2: That I think they liked each other better than they
really liked her. She moves back to Texas and so
they roommate together in her old apartment. Well really, yes, wow,
And since Scott's a singer and Robert is a guitarist
and a bass player, they decide they're going to put
together a band.
Speaker 1: Hey, before you get there, Before you get there, I
just want to mention this really quick. I found this fascinating.
Scott Wiland in high school was an athlete.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you sent me a picture of him, like
he's a quarterback, and I.
Speaker 1: Sent you his football picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's he wasn't like the last guy off the bench.
He was the quarterback. Yeah, he played football. He played soccer. Yeah,
he wrestled, Yeah, played volleyball.
Speaker 2: You sent a picture of him in the group text
that we share with James Buckley and David Wright, right,
and you're like, who's this guy? And David Wright said,
is it Jack Wagner? And I thought, yeah, he's right,
that's Jack Wagner. Like he looks like a soap opera star,
very young. Scott Weiland looks like a young James Wagner.
Speaker 1: Flashback to Our Girls Girls, The Girls episode Jack Wagner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does.
Speaker 1: I mean he looks athletic, he's bustled up, and he
looks like a football player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he changes that look. He changes his look over
and over again. As his career progressive. He does. He
does so.
Speaker 1: When he's a young man, he's an athlete. He's going
here and there, and on the weekends he's starting to
go to parties. High scholers do that, they binge drink
on the weekends. Except for Scott. It starts to have
an obsessive pull on him to where he thinks about Monday,
thinks about it Tuesday, thinks about it Wednesday and has
to kind of make it to Friday. Yeah, that leads
to weed and then cocaine, and his parents find those
little white bundles in his bedroom one day and he's
off to rehab for the first time, age sixteen.
Speaker 2: Sixteen. Yeah, so I learned in this process a very
tragic story. Apparently, and possibly he was dealing with a
prior event that had occurred about four years before, right
that he had, according to him in his book, suppressed
this memory until he's in rehab and was going through therapy.
But apparently twelve years old again, gets invited to a
barn to you know, hang out like you do out
in Ohio, and it's play spin the bottle with some
girls and a mason jar full of liquor. And this older,
you know, high school senior who's twenty at the time,
shows up and starts having relations with one of the
girls right there in front of everyone, and then just
within the week says, hey, you want to come hang out.
Scott goes with him over to his house and he
is raped by this twenty year old high school senior.
That is tragic. I could see myself becoming a drinker
and a drugger if that had happened to me, and.
Speaker 1: A violent, angry young man. Yeah, okay, when to bring
it down. Actually I did hear him describe it as
quick and unpleasant.
Speaker 2: At least it was quick, I guess at the very least. Yes.
So Robert and Scott are living together. They've decided to
put a band together. They get a couple of childhood
friends to join the band, a guy named Corey Hickock
and a guy named David Allen. Yep, but they don't
live up to snuff. And while Robert and Scott are
at a concert, they are listening to this band and
they're like, man, I can't hear anything but the drums.
This guy is incredible, right. That guy was Eric Kretz.
They said we need to get him. They got him,
kicked out the other two guys and said, okay, we
need a guitar player. And Robert says, you know what,
let's give my brother Dean a call.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the fact that Scott Wiland's childhood friends are
in this band. They're just not quite as good as
they need to be. And so one of the songs
that they had been working on very early on in
their days as a band was Piece of Pie. So
they had been working on it and it had guitars
and Corey Hickock was playing the guitar wasn't a great
guitar player, so Dean actually came to help out on
that song in particular, and when he showed up to help,
it became obvious that Dean is much better. And so
when Dean showed up, he inadvertently kicked him out of
the band. And he said that he has since forgiven
him and that he's a sweet guy.
Speaker 2: So well, that's nice. It seems to me that Robert
is probably the most driven of the group, right. I
heard Scott talk about it. Robert would have a beer,
you know, once or twice a month maybe, but he
said that while he was doing drugs and STP Dean
was doing them with them. Dean was a heavy drug
addict as well. Wow. But as they pointed out, it's
a little different to play the guitar than it is
to sing. You've got a human instrument when you're the singer,
and if you're off, you can't tune it. You know,
there's no key to change, so it's a little bit difficult,
which is probably why he ultimately had more pressure from
the rest of the band and why ultimately he got
the bit right.
Speaker 1: So Originally they weren't even called Stone Temple Pilots. Really,
this blew me away. All right, tell me about that. Okay,
So their original name was called Mighty Joe Young.
Speaker 2: Like the old Giant Gorilla movie. Yeah, okay, all right,
you see that one, Bill Paxton. I did not. I
saw the old black and white one though. Okay.
Speaker 1: So, like weeks before Coors come out, they realize that
there's this guy in Chicago who's got the copyright to
this name.
Speaker 2: He has the rights to the name Mighty Joe Young. Yes,
blues musician, yes, yes, So they have to come up
with a new name.
Speaker 1: So they do that.
Speaker 2: My friend brings me to the Chemical Compound Company that
started back in nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is great, so good job.
Speaker 2: The Chemical Compound Company's sole product was an oil treatment
simply called STP. The name was derived from scientifically Treated Petroleum.
In nineteen sixty one, same year that Dean was born,
the company was acquired by the Studebaker Packard Corporation and
they changed the meaning of STP to Studebaker Tested products.
But the CEO of Studebaker at the time said, you
know what, I think this product could outpace Studebaker, and
so he recruited this guy named Andy Granatelli and he
made him the CEO of the STP company to help
raise the product's image. The way that he did that
is he became the public face of STP and he
would go to races with a white suit emblazoned with
a red oval with the logo STP. That STP logo
became a fashion go to for skaters and bmxer's and
other guys my age in the late eighties early nineties. Absolutely,
And so when these guys find out they can't be
Mighty Joe Young, they say, we love STP. Let's just
come up with three words that give us the initials
S t P.
Speaker 1: That's a fascinating story, right, right, So here's what they
come up with.
Speaker 2: Shirley Temple's po.
Speaker 1: Once again, a name you can't use at Walmart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they also thought of sticky toilet paper. Ultimately they
got really close. They said, how about Stereo Temple Pirates? Yes,
and it was very close, but the record company was
like pirates with the music I don't know. And so
they said, well what about pilots And someone else said,
I like the idea of stone better than Stereo, So
there you go.
Speaker 1: Stone Temple Pilots once again grabbed this name at the
last second before the album came out.
Speaker 2: All because of Micole compound company stp Oil.
Speaker 1: I like this name better than Mighty Joe Young.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know it doesn't I mean, m Jay
Y doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well as
that's true. That's true. So these guys started playing together
as Mighty Joe Young for the longest time in San
Diego and they would go up and down the coast.
They ended up playing at the Whiskey in La Yep,
And very quickly we're discovered. And this is about nineteen
ninety two, when we've had Nirvana's Nevermind has come out,
Pearl Jams ten has come out, and the record company
is seeing these guys on stage and saying, these guys
are obviously well within this new alternative music that's happening,
even though they were not a Seattle band. They're like,
we can see the dollar signs here, good look, and
lead singer Rough Grungey sound, let's sign these guys up.
Speaker 1: This is what I didn't know, or at least didn't
realize at the time. I was well aware of the
Seattle sound. Yeah, but the flavor of the month kind
of in the early nineties was San Diego. So record
companies went like flocked to San Diego to find the
next big thing. And even though these guys, it's kind
of misnomed that they were from San Diego. They are
actually an LA band, but record companies were hot on
the trail of San Diego bands. I've never even heard
of that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So ultimately they signed with Atlantic Records on April first,
nineteen ninety two. Yep, Dean has a day job still,
you know. I mean, they're not making it enough as
musicians to live, so he's got a day job. He
goes to tell them, He's like, hey, guys, I gotta leave.
I'm signed a record deal. And they didn't believe him
because it was April first.
Speaker 1: They're like, hilarious, back to where.
Speaker 2: No, really, guys, really okay, guys, see you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, man.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: During this time, Robert worked at a guitar store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he worked with Schechter Guitar Research, which was it
started off as a repair shop back in the seventies,
got bought by a Texas company in the mid eighties,
went to Texas for a while and then a Japanese
company bought him moved him back out to California. That's
when Robert started working with him, and he built the
prototype of what would later become his signature model when
he was working there. It was the Scheckter Model T
and it was his primary live instrument while he was
with Stone Table Pilots.
Speaker 1: Wow, so he worked at this guitar store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry to give you a little bit more there.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's great, that's great. That's way more than
I had. So he would work at the guitar store
and across the street Scott was working at like parking
cars and driving people around models.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he drove the models around, right, Yes, he did.
Speaker 1: Not a bad gig if you can get it. And
so apparently Scott would have these little downtimes and he
would come across the street and he would tell Robert,
he say, hey, got this idea. What do you think
I am smelling like a road? You know, what do
you think about that? Okay? And he said In fact,
they wrote the song Creep in Robert's back seat while
parked at the guitar store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was thinking about how he was rejected a
lot as a youth and felt like he was a
Greef a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: By the way, the guy that they opened for at
the Whiskey was Henry Rawlins. You know what band he
was in prior to the Henry Rowlins band, tell Me
Black Flac.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes full circle, it sure does. And as
a matter of fact, another band that they opened for
was Electric Love Hawks. The guitarist for Electric Love Hoggs
was Dave Kushner, who was the founder of Velvet Revolver,
where Scott Wiland would go after leaving stp.
Speaker 1: And where he was eventually fired from. It's all part
of the same story.
Speaker 2: Okay. So it's summer of nineteen ninety two. They have
got to come out with a debut album. We know
that it comes out September of that year, but they've
got to get started recording. So what do you do
when you have to record an album. You hire a producer.
Let me tell you about mister Brendan O'Brien. Okay, yeah,
So Brendan O'Brien started off playing in bands in Atlanta.
One band was called the Pranks. The other one was
called Samurai.
Speaker 1: Catfish, Samurai cash.
Speaker 2: Samurai catfish with a fantastic name, right, And so he
had a bit of success. He was a good musician,
but he had a kid early on, so he was
a dad who needed to take care of a family.
So he needed paying gig, right, And so he was
always kind of fascinated by the name that would show
on producer lines on his albums that he loved, like
the Beatles or led Zeppelin. You know, he sees Jimmy
Page's producer, He's like, how did he make that sound?
So he kind of becomes fascinated with this idea of
being a producer and an engineer. And because he needs money,
he works cheap and he became known as the guy
who if you were with a small record company and
you need an album for fifteen hundred bucks, he was
your guy to go to interesting. Okay, So he does
some engineering, does some mixing, and in nineteen eighty nine
he gets together with this kind of unknown band to
do engineering for them. Their name was the Black Crows
and the album was Shake Your Money Maker.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 2: And he goes from mister guy you need cheap to
a guy in demand.
Speaker 1: I love that album. Of course, we gotta cover that
the album, right, there is not a bad song on
that album.
Speaker 2: Let me just touch on some of the some of
the albums that this guy has been involved with. Right, So,
he did Black Crows, He was an engineer for Black Crows,
Shake Your Money Maker. He mixed Pearl Jams ten. Yeah,
he was the mixer for Temple of the Dog by
Temple of the Dog. You ready for this. Yes, he
was the engineer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, Blood Sugar,
Sex Magic, which we know came out the same time
as Nevermind and ten Huge. He did the Black Crows
follow up album, and then he does Stone Tipple Pilots.
Speaker 1: You know when you said that there is a song
on Core that reminds me of Remedy by the Black Crows. Yeah,
we'll talk about it when we get there.
Speaker 2: So on the song wet My Bad, Yes, at the
very end, you hear a voice come in. Yes, Okay,
what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: That's him Brendan O'Brien. If you you know, you've got
probably no image in your head you but you probably
have seen him if you saw the Bob Dylan Unplugged
on MTV. He's the guy playing the him in organ okay.
He also played keyboards for Pearl Jam and Neil Young
on their Mirror Ball tour in Europe. More recently, like
twenty years ago, he won the Grammy for the Rising
by Bruce Springsteen throw back to Bruce Springs Yes Bruce
Springsteen episode. In twenty fifteen, he produced Higher Truth, which
was Chris Cornell's final album before his death, Interesting Intending,
and most recently he's done Power Up by ac DC,
came out in twenty twenty, same year that we did
our ac DC versus Guns n' Roses Appetite for Destruction.
Speaker 1: Hey back you black versus Appetite for Destruction. Come on,
that's that's a really good matchup.
Speaker 2: So this is the guy who was primarily responsible for
the sound of the music of the nineties. And the
thing that all of these songs seemed to share is
this piccolo snare. It's this really and I can remember
I can remember early nineties is when I was in
high school band talking to my drummer about stuff, and
I'm like, can you can you make the drum sound
more high pitch and more poppy. It's that piccolo snare
that has that high pitched kind of echoe sound, and
Brendan O'Brien is the guy who's responsible for us. As
I mentioned at the beginning of the episode, everybody including
my brother, thought one of these guys sound like Pearl Jam. Well,
Brendan O'Brien produced all of the Pearl Jam albums except
for ten, and he produced Core, so he's the one
tie between these two bands. It's just interesting because this
is a guy who until we did the research on this,
I had no idea who he was. But he's the
guy who gave us the sound of the nineties, and
he talked about how in the eighties things had gotten
so hi fi and people were done with that, and
so the nineties he was the perfect guy to come
in and do low fi sound.
Speaker 1: You know who else thought they sounded like Pearl Jim,
I hate to keep bringing this up. David Spade on
Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 2: I've heard the episode, let's listen to it here.
Speaker 1: And in Music Stone Temple Pilots were on tour. They
were great the first time I saw him when they
were called Pearl Jam, David Spade, hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Beavis's buttead two.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Scott Wiland really bristled at that. I'm sure, I
mean really bristled at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the guy from the Butthole Surfers who they toured
with the last date of this concert was when Scott
Wiland started Heroin for the very first time. But the
guy for Butthole Surfers was on with Ricky Rackman on
MTV and the guy for Butthole Servers said, you know
who they sound like, don't you? And Ricky Rackman said,
who don't they sound like? And because of that state,
Scott Wiland was super pissed at MTV. Yeah, whend come
on any of their stuff. They came to rick your
reckman and they're like, you have got to go and
apologize to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's interesting because Headbanger's Ball is where you
get the live version of Plush, which I mean, that's
my favorite version of the song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Well, that got as much radio
play as anything I know, because it's fantastic. It's fantastic. Yeah,
although I like the I like the.
Speaker 2: Real one better. I know you do. Okay, so we
need to do our Shirley showcase. Now we have our
dear friend and fellow podcaster mister Jeff Johnson, who is
going to give us his thoughts on this matchup. And
Jeff is a little younger than us, so this was
more like right in his sweet spot.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to hear what Jeff has to say.
Jeff has knocked it out of the park and all
the Shirley showcases so far, So Jeff, no pressure. Here
you go.
Speaker 4: Hello Shirley fans. This is Jeff Johnson from a film
by podcast and I'm here to do a quick set
before d and Jason take the stage. In nineteen ninety two,
Alison Chains and Stone Timble Pilots both put out albums
that would ultimately become their highest selling I want to
offer a final judgment on what I feel is the
best album though, the first time I heard Sex Type
Thing on my local radio station, I knew two things.
I wanted to hear it again and I wanted to
hear what else did these guys got With their debut
album Core, The Stone Tible Pilots deliver a message about
social injustice with songs like Naked Sunday and Wicked Garden.
They shed some light on the hypocrisies of our values
and some of our beliefs. Meanwhile, hard hitting tracks like
Dead and Bloated gave you an idea of what kind
of attitude this band had, while Where the River Goes
ensures that they know how to close an album out
the right way. As for Alison Chains, we knew what
to expect and we wanted more of it, and they
provide with their follow up Dirt. Songs like Wood and
Down in a Hole have a way of just pulling
you in. Your eyes are closed and you're kind of
swaying with the music. Plaine's vocals are more like a lullaby,
beckoning meat to come with him on a journey, but
it's a dark journey into the depths of addiction, self
harm with little reconciliation. Ultimately, choosing the best album is
very difficult, but not impossible. As for myself, I'm gonna
go with the one I feel I can play from
start to finish and more importantly sing along with. And
that is why I'm gonna go with Core. Jason d
roll out of that birthday deathbed, have a piece of pie,
and find out Where the River Goes. I'm Jeff Johnson
from a film by podcast Thank You, Good Night.
Speaker 2: Hey knocked it out of the park again. That's fantastic
it so obviously he is a big STP.
Speaker 1: Fan right coming strong with Core Yeah, Jeff, Thank you
so much. Jeff is a great friend of ours. Go
check out his podcast, A film by Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's time to jump into the album.
Speaker 1: That brings us to September twenty ninth, nineteen ninety two,
the release of Core and Dirt. But next week we're
gonna go track by track through each one of these
songs off Core.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with our good friend and supporter Brad More. Thank
you guys for listening to the whole episode. We look
forward to seeing you again when we go through this
album track by track and give you our final judgment
as to which of these two albums, in our opinion,
is the best. Is it Dirt? Is it Core? Tune
in next week to.
Speaker 1: Find out sounds good. We'll see you guys then