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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Zeema,

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hula hoops and pac Man video games. Don't you see?

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People today have attention spans that can only be measured

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in Namo seconds, got old legends, they just do great black.

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Speaker 3: Legend and an Adam work from with a lot of like.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello Las Vegas, Hello World, Hello my loyal minions.

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It is good to see you. It's always going to

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be seen in Mizzy Presley Shows, another fing podcast and

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you can find us real Izzie Pretty Presley, Twitter, Rithsgram, Facebook,

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and of course the show for age know therif podcast

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and the Patreon. If you're the Patreon you're getting this

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ad free. And Ladies and gentlemen, this is a landmark

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show for the second time in the history of the show,

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even though it wasn't really this show, it was more

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the Metal Edge Show.

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Speaker 1: I have a co.

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Speaker 2: Host and I'm proud to it bring him to you.

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The news has got out. Ladies and gentlemen. You know

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from the Adam Carolla Show, you know from The Water Cooler,

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he's a comic. Mike Dawson and the smoking kills and

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he's on the radio in Charlotte. Whoo, North Carolina. Ladies

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and gentlemen, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Dawson, Yeah, is he presley happy to be here? Man? Yeah? Well,

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not many people, not many people in my life who

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had asked me to join a podcast would ever get

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the answer. Hell yeah. But I'm happy to be here

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because we're Symbodica. We know the same things, we talk

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about the same things, we have the same dreams, desires,

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we like the same girls, you know, and so it's

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just it's it's a match made on the highway to hell.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and you know, like a lot of the

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same music, and you're my best and best friend. You know.

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It was after the Corolla Christmas party. We were drinking

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beers and just like I threw it and you like

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thought them off for one second ago Yeah, hell yeah,

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let's fucking do this and I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There was no other answer.

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Speaker 2: That was what's going on in Dawson world?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Well, here's how you know that I'm a real

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rock and roller. And I thought about this earlier today.

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I lived with my mom. That's how you know that

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I dedicated my life to rock and roll and nothing else. No,

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what is going on is I do live with my mom.

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We just finished building my mom's house in my backyard.

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It's not completely done yet, but now my mom is

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living in my house until her house is completely done.

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And so that's what's going on in Dawson Land. You know,

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it's January twod today. On New Year's Eve, my mom

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and I I watched die Hard and that was New

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Year's Eve, and then we went outside and watched illegal

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fireworks in the San Fernando Valley because my mother had

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never experienced the war zone. Uh, that makes us call

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this area a little Bay route. But you know, it's been, uh,

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it's been a nice it's been let's just call it

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some time off because of the holidays.

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Speaker 2: And you know what time off is a good thing. Yeah,

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you know, you get back and you can relax and

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just cleanse the fucking palate and have fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it was funny because I went up to the

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Bay area for the Christmas holiday to spend with my

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mom up at the old house, and up there, I

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felt guilty for being lazy. And I didn't have a

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recording studio in that house, so I couldn't do any

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work anyway, and then when I get home and my

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mom's here, it's like, I don't want to work. I

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want to you know, I don't know, whatever did? I

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love my mom. She's great, and that's that's what life

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has been all about over here. But I am getting

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excited because in a couple of months we're getting back

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on a boat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we are. Cruise seasons officially begun now that we

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turned the page and turned into twenty twenty six, oh

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in Dawson, I cannot move forward without doing this, the

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first one of the new Era Jesus Christ. In the

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words of my close personal friends Stone call Steve Austin,

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crack one for the working man.

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Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers, my brother, have me New York, This.

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Speaker 2: Mary fucking New Year. I love this. I get the

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crack beers crack wise and talk to people much more

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famous than us and have some.

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Speaker 1: Fun, have some fun and live vicariously through their experiences

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and wish we were there without the extreme fomo you

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know exactly.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna be on the boat on Cruise

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of the Edge in March. Then the Big Dog Monsters

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of Rock Cruise. It is going to be fucking great,

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And Cruise of the Edge is going to be a

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blast as well. If you guys do want to get

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on those boats. If you're a PROG fan, cruise Ofthedge

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dot com and Monsters of Rock Monsters Rock Cruise dot com,

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and don't forget in August the Monsters the Mountain Music

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Festival used to be Monsters on the Mountain and that

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Speaker 1: Uh Gatlinburg, Tennessee Gatlinburg, and that is where you share

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the sidewalk with bears.

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Speaker 2: That's right, And I believe that website is the Mountain

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Music Mountain Music US. A hold on, I have it,

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I have it up. I did have it up that

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I had to google something during the interview.

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Speaker 1: Incredible lineup this year, by the way, John Waite, Night Ranger,

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lead a Ford of Course, Slaughter, Yeah, Faster Pussycat. That's

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gonna be a hell of a weekend, dude.

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Speaker 2: White Lion, Dangerous Toys, Dangerous Toys, fucking Rule thirty eight

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special is always fucking amazing.

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Speaker 1: Steele Hard you know it's funny, dude. I thought about

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this the other day and I came across this on

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my radio show. I had to back sell Leonard Skinnerd's

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Saturday Night Special and I finally made the connection. Now,

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that's that. It was basically Leonard Skinnerd's statement on you know,

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gun violence, and for the first time in my life,

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I made the connection in my mind. Wait a minute.

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A Saturday Night Special is a thirty eight revolver also

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known as a thirty eight Special. The front man for

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thirty eight Special is Donnie Van sand who is Ronnie

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Van Sant's brother. Did they take their name from Saturday

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Night Special?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that? That had to have been the genesis.

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Speaker 2: Of Well, what Dawson? I should pull some strings. Maybe

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we could get him.

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Speaker 1: On let's see that and then we can ask him

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that question. Let's pull some strings.

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Speaker 2: Let's pull some strings. I have a lot of I

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got a lot of bullets in the chamber that I'm

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gonna shoot for coming up very soon, and I believe

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that one should be one of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So, uh, this to take my shoes off.

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Speaker 2: This interview we're about to get into. We just got

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done recording, Uh Jimmy DeAnda from the Bullet Boys, who

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are now reunited once again. I think you guys are

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going to enjoy this. There is some fucking stories. Yeah,

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great guy, amazing drummer. And I guess the one person

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. I had an ex girlfriend. Oh,

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I have an ex girlfriend who wasn't She worked for

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wes woand one, but she wasn't as into rock and

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roll as we are. And she was at some radio

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event for Westwood one and she was outside on a

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a cigarette and she's like, yeah, of course. And she's

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like She's like, I'm Katie and he's like, hey, I'm

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I'm not supposed to be doing this, and she's like, oh, yeah,

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you know, why not. It turns out it was Eddie

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van Halen, and and she didn't get into a fight

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Speaker 2: Yep, I did not.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 2: But that's uh that that's a very fun little thing

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that you're going to come across in this interview. And

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you know we're gonna have because we got the fucking

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porn of where its coming up again and I'm gonna

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have to make my way down there and get some more,

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get some more spots, of course, and that's that, you know,

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because that works great between this and the interview. I

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don't have one for us right now. Maybe next one,

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next one. I still got a couple left to burn.

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But uh, well do you think should we get into this?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Man, But how are you doing? Happy New Year,

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Marry New Year.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, you know me, you know, me, just doing

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my thing and uh looking forward to a U a

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Speaker 1: God, yeah, I don't want to jinx it man, and

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a good year. I mean, I you know, when people

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say prosperous, i'd be nice, it usually works out as persperous.

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Speaker 2: Dear.

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Speaker 1: There's that. There's that, you know, So let's let's be

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careful and not jings things. You know, I concise when

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Speaker 2: I did a show just for the Patreon, and the

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Patreon shows are just for the Patreon. This is obviously

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going to be on the Patreon and get it at free.

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But the one I did on New Year's Eve, when

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through a list of things. But I don't call them resolutions.

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I call them expectations, things that I expect of myself,

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because I feel like if you called a resolution, it's like, ah,

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fucket whatever, you know. But if it's an expectation of yourself,

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that's going to drive me harder to do this kind

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It reminds me of a reminds me

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of a line from a song by a little band

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called Nickel Creek that are not metal at all, but

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the line is others have excuses. I have my reasons

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why others have resolutions, You have expectations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, Dawson. I'm so excited for this

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because we're gonna have my world, but we're also gonna

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have your world. Guests from my world, guess from your world.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so everybody gets both worlds. It is the best,

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Speaker 2: That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Without further ado, we are

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going to go to the drummer for the Bullet Boys,

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the OG and he's back with them, Jimmy DeAnda right

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here on another and podcast is he Presley and Mike

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Dawson all right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back and

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joining us the very first guest of the year and

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surprised it's his first time on here. I've known this

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cat for so long. He is the drummer. I mean,

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you know, he's played with Lynch Mob, he's played with

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Piercy d Martini, and he is again in the re

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re re Reunited boys. Jimmy DeAnda, good to see you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, both of you guys. It's

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good to see you guys. A happy New Year, New Year.

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Speaker 2: So you guys just played and this is what the

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second or third show since you guys came back together.

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Speaker 4: Well, actually with we had reunited just to me, Lonnie

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and the singer Mark Uh and we had a guitar

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player that was sitting in for a minute and unfortunately

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his scheduling got a little lousie, but it you know,

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had a change of heart and wanted to come back

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into the fold.

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Speaker 3: So that worked out.

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Speaker 4: So we have all original members and we've done three

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Speaker 3: We did which is.

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Speaker 4: Really kind of cool because the first show back was

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with Lynch Bob, with George Lanshek, Jared Galino, who's like

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like my little brother. But Andrew Freeman, who's you know,

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it's so incestuous because he sang for what was a

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version of Bullet Boys called Lives to Seed in Treachery Are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's all family though, because Mark and him hung out.

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They talk and it's all brothers. It's all we're trying

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our best to move forward. And remember that, you know,

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playing music, you guys, I think we all know this.

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Speaker 3: Now. It's a gift man.

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Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody gets to do like this isn't you don't

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deserve this. But I will say, for the first time

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in a long time, we are. We're in a better

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place than we've all been. And I think it had

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to take age. I think I had to get ready

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to get older. I think that that's really I'm not

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saying anybody's more spiritual or or fucking solid a lot.

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I do believe we got older. And he looked around

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and went and Lonnie was the one that said. He said, Jimbo,

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how much time do we have? Seriously, like, if you

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just look at the clock, how much more time? I go, Lonnie,

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you're a preacher of the choir. You're right, I don't know,

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but it's been good. So three shows with mixway with

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the full full lineup.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jimmy, even to have what career you've had already,

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that should be enough. You know, it's it's it never is,

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but it should be enough to scratch that itch. And

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how fortunate are you now that, like you kind of

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alluded to this, You know everything now, right, you know

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the game back and forth, and now you're in you

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probably take care better care of yourself, a little more professional,

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you know all the tricks to the trade. How much

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more fun is it now? Or is it going to

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be because you don't have to worry about all the

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little shit that you had to worry about in the You're.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent right, it's right now it's not as

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fun as it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, right because right now, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's just like anytime somebody gets back with an ex.

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You know, we have to just kind of get reused

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to each other. And on stage, don't get me wrong,

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on stage we are completely fucking it is like I

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kind of we try to talk about the band like

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we're all backstage going, why does.

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Speaker 3: This sound the way it sounds? You know? I played

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with George Lynchay and Warren G.

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Speaker 4: Martinez and when some of the Grits guitar players on

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the history of the fucking planet, and when I play

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with next to Mix Suedea, it's a completely different animal

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because and I know it has lots to do with

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we started out together and we created something together, and

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we have like this thing that when we were in

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the studio and rehearsals and so on. But I will

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say right now, it's good, but it's going to get

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better in your right because we're gonna get you know,

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some some a little bit of a staff, involves somebody

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to help, you know, do the heavy lifting on the road.

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That's going to take a big part of that of

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the stress.

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Speaker 3: Out of it.

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Speaker 4: And we're gonna just hang out and go do shows.

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You don't have food, you know, see other bands play,

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come home to our families, you know, check comes to

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the mail, and then that's it, you know, rinse wash, repeat,

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right and no more bullshit. You know, we've all this,

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we all said this, and I'll be honest, you know,

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And and for those of you who don't, I don't talk.

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Speaker 3: I don't I have never aired dirty laundry in my

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fucking life.

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Speaker 4: About my band because there's no sense in it.

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Speaker 3: And and I'm a fan. I don't want to hear

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Robert Platt talk shit about Jimmy Page. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I want you know what I mean, So I don't talk.

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I've never talked shit about amateus band. But I will

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tell you right now, this band, right now is probably

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in the best place because we've set some rules up.

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We've said, you guys, no more fighting, no more yelling,

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no more Fucki's no that shit's gonna happen. Now, let's

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just be If there's a problem, If there's an issue,

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let's discuss it. If we can't resolve it, let's turn

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around and walk away until the answer shows itself. So

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in that sense, we're already off to a better start.

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And we have been in our past at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can already tell that you've excuse me, Izzie,

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I can already tell how much you've evolved through maturity.

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When you said we're gonna have food, Yeah, right, that

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wouldn't be in the top twenty on your writer however,

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many years ago. Food what's food? Right now you can

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enjoy a nice steakhouse.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly it. Hell yeah, we talked about steak

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and getting some baked potato on the road. That's like,

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that's like literally our jam right now.

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Speaker 2: So fright right, Well, Jimmy, let me ask you this

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is that one of the reasons that the reunion kind

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of fell apart, it was what a couple of years ago,

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because there weren't rules in place, and it was just

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kind of falling back into the same old drama.

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Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, we try to do it during COVID, and

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in that instance it was there was already so many

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kind of uh uh barricades up for the band, per

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you know, and so we just couldn't really sit down

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and have discussions and and really the truth is we.

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Speaker 3: Didn't kind of go back and clear some of the

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era up. You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the first things that me and the singer

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Mark did is we went to a Mexican restaurant that

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we both have grew up by and uh, unfortunately just closed.

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I just found it just closed. You the ediclled Ordonnas,

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which I'm so heartbroken by. But we sat there and

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I said, Mark, I'm going to say some words that

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might hurt you, but I mean out of love, because

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I want this thing to work. And I don't want

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to set us up for failure like that we did before.

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So let's let's let's begin this process. You could say

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the things, I can say things, but these are not

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These are not coming from a bad place. They're coming

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from a place that I want to heal from this.

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I don't want to have all that shit hanging over

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my shoulder where I'm pissed at you and you're pissed

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at me about stuff. So we did do that, But

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does that mean it prevents any future problems? You know,

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it doesn't. You know, we're human beings and we're subject

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to fail at a lot of places in our lives.

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So that's why in the talking process and nobody gets

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fucking angry and nobody does this stuff, I think, yeah,

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kind of eliminating those things. And if we just go well,

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I'm not happy now, bro, I'm gonna walk away. Okay,

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I'm out, and just walk away for that time period

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so we can then still know, Okay, we're still a band, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna move on.

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Speaker 4: But I would love you guys, honestly, I would love

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to finish my career with Bullet Boys. I started out

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with those I was nineteen years old, when I did

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the first BulletBoys album, I would love to say from here,

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from fifty eight to sixty eight or seventy, I can

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say that's it. I finished back here with it with

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the band that I started with, and I will be

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a fucking happy person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's fucking beautiful. Yeah, fucking beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's funny too because and since you guys, since

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you all do know each other over so many years, Yeah,

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you notice in a relationship, when one person loses their shit,

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the other person's like, Okay, I got this, you got more,

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you got more, dudes, Yeah, pulling the weight, And it's

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just I think you're right, man, it's just gonna get

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a lot funner.

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Speaker 4: I really do believe that because I think that, you know,

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just the fact that we're being honest with each other.

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You know, that's one of the things that a lot

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of bands, you know, and we all know this, you know,

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if it was easy for bands to reunite and stay reunited,

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you'd see every fucking band out there doing it, you know.

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And there's a reason that there's so few. I mean,

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if you guys think about it, outside of right now

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us Bullet Boys, there isn't one band from the eighties.

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Speaker 1: That's all original, No exactly, dude, And why is Dean

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Castronovo singing Steve Ferry parts in San Francisco before a

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football game? Because people can't fucking get along.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's it is, very, very difficult because

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it's not only personalities, but it's egos and it's feelings,

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and people get hurt and it's a fuck you and

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a fuck you, and then they decide to make that

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entire decision reflect their business career.

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Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I'm guilty of it. I've

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done it before, you know. I think a lot of

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us have done it.

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Speaker 4: But I know that if you could set up some

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guidelines to help each other, to kind of guardrails, if

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you will, so no one fucking goes over the edge,

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I think we're able to have some some luck, some hope,

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that some success is staying together.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm hopeful for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jimmy and uh there there's actually three other ones

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kings X. And when poison eventually does come back.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's hope they come back. Yes, hope they You know,

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I didn't know, I mean, I forgot Kingsax. You're right,

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but I didn't know to our tour, so good for them.

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I mean, listen, uh, it's it's just a crazy anomaly

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to think that the benches can't do it. And then

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you know, then before you know it, then somebody passes on,

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you know, yeah, and then you get you get the dude.

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I was in a band with Mike Star from alson

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Shane's which is this is kind of a weird. It

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was the last thing that he did when he passed away,

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so that freaked me out a little bit. And then

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I was in the last lineup of Jenny Lane's solo

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vamped shit and then he died. And the dude, those

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things kind of they fucking stay with you. They hurt

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you because you know these people and you're traveling the

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life with them, you know, step by step, we're talking,

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we're having breakfast, we're out there on the road, and

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then you get a call from one of their family members, Hey,

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Janney's gone, and you're you're sitting there and you kind

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of like you're shock.

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Speaker 3: You're You're like gone, gone, gone, Okay, Janney's gone. Okay.

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It's just like it's just fucking crazy things.

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Speaker 4: So you know, again, we're trying to do this now

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with bullet boys hate to be so morbid, but it's

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kind of like you kind of have to put that

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in the back somewhere, Like, you, guys, there's only so

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much time we got on planet Earth, so let's do

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our best. Please, Let's not funck this up, you guys.

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Let's just do our best. And that that's where we

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are right now.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy, this is how I do things. I don't have

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a list of questions in front of me.

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Speaker 3: I shoot.

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Speaker 2: I shoot from the hip, so we kind of bounce

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all over the place.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Michael Starr, you talked abou Jadie Wayne,

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and you're sober. Yeah, how much did I mean, how

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long have you been sober? And how did their their

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deaths have an effect on that? Because obviously we know

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what happened with.

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Speaker 3: Them, right right.

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Speaker 4: I've been cleaning sober now for twenty four years. I

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just celebrated November nineteen, twenty four years. Correct, Thank you

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so much, you guys, believe me. It doesn't get lost

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on me. I'm well aware of, like how how difficult

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it is that, first of all, to get clean and

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sober is a miracle within itself because for most of us,

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we've never had guidelines in our lives. I didn't have guidelines.

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I was nineteen years old, shut up to gigs. It

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was not only acceptable for me to be loaded, it

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was expected for me to be loaded.

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Speaker 3: I got to the venue. There was a godside with

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a bag and he shook my hand and he goes,

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what's up to me? D And I went, oh, hey,

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what's up, bro?

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Speaker 4: You know it was it wasn't just a part of

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my life lifestyle, that was my business as well. So

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the fact that I was able to have a moment

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of clarity and and look around and go, this is

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not going to last long.

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Speaker 3: And I know it that in South America.

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Speaker 4: But being able to stay clean and so over through the

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trials and tribulations of life, you know, because just the

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four or five freeway can make people fucking relax, you know.

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So it's it's it's an interesting, you know concept to

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be able to go okay, just for today, I'm not

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going to take a drink, a snort, a pill or

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anything that's gonna be mind altering. So for me, thank you.

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It is a blessing. And I still I hold it

470
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:35,519
close to my heart.

471
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: You know.

472
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 4: The tough part about it is which bo Janey and

473
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,200
Mike Starr. You know, I went to I took Mike

474
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,720
started meetings and and for a minute there I was

475
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,160
a sponsor and uh and I remember he was he

476
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,839
was always on the edge. He always stood on the edge,

477
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,519
you know, of being I'm gonna say abstinent. I don't

478
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,759
know if I say sober, but abstinately. And then and

479
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,279
then you know, and we could see it. Everyone around

480
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,200
it could see that, you know, he was having more

481
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,279
and more difficulty. And then uh, saying with Jane.

482
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: But there's the saying. And I hate it.

483
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,559
Speaker 4: And I don't mean this to sound crude or disrespectful

484
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,119
or or heartless, but you know, for some addicts, alcoholics,

485
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,279
some have to die.

486
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,599
Speaker 3: In order for others to live. Sure, you know, and uh,

487
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,519
and I will tell.

488
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,279
Speaker 4: You it scared the fucking shit out of me to

489
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,759
know that my friends that I was hanging out with

490
00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:35,319
it here in my house were dying from drugs and alcohol.

491
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,559
And it's it's it's listen, I'm no different. I'm a

492
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,640
day away from being one of those guys again.

493
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: I'm a day away from relapsing.

494
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:46,039
Speaker 4: I got a bunch of money I got, I got guitars,

495
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,519
and I could fucking pull it and south.

496
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I I am.

497
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,599
Speaker 4: I'm much more closer to having a fucking overdose and

498
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,559
than ever before because now I have the money to

499
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,359
do it. So, you know, those guys remind me that, listen,

500
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,160
I have a disease. I have something that is a

501
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,920
big problem from for Jimmy. I can never say to

502
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,039
anybody who has a problem or who doesn't, and that's

503
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,799
not what it's about. But I do know that when

504
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,279
those things happen, it shakes you to your core. You

505
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,319
lose a dear friend, and it reminds you how precious

506
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,759
life is.

507
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: So for me it was and for all of us.

508
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: You guys knew those guys too, and it's it's devastating

509
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,079
to have our friends leave so soon in life. I mean,

510
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,680
they're never gonna see get grandkids. They're never going to

511
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,920
see you know, you know the other side on the

512
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,480
back nine, when we're out there playing like fucking you know,

513
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:34,240
Mick Jagger and fucking Keith Ridge. Hopefully when they're eighties,

514
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,119
you know, I mean, that would be a nice experience

515
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,720
for all of us to see each other go through that.

516
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, right, was it tough for you over the

517
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:48,079
pandemic being locked in and.

518
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,559
Speaker 4: Yes and no, I mean yes, uh for you know,

519
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,519
not seeing friends and family. Of course, I think for

520
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,039
all of us that that was the part that was

521
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,960
fucking that drove me crazy, not saying my mom because.

522
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,519
Speaker 2: They well, everything was closed except for the liquor stores.

523
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:05,559
Speaker 1: And the strip clubs and yeah, important and dealers still

524
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,319
had no problem going door to door.

525
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 4: So right, right, right, that's so funny you say that,

526
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,799
But yeah, I don't. I don't really remember having a

527
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,960
problem per se as far as the uh, wanting to

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,799
take a drink or a snort or anything. The loneliness

529
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,599
was difficult, but I at that time I was think

530
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,119
I really had any issues with relapse, even though I

531
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,640
do know it was in my neck of the woodsider

532
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,160
because I'm in the valley receied in Northridge. There was

533
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,519
a lot of relapses of a lot of people that

534
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,240
I know, And you're right, it was a tough experience

535
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,000
for people.

536
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the valley too, and just being in

537
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,559
the valley most of the time is a reason to

538
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:52,559
have a drink, you know. And then and then God forbid,

539
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,680
in three days you got to go south of Sunset Boulevard.

540
00:27:55,759 --> 00:28:01,079
You're like, shit, I need a drink now, right. The

541
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,079
valley has its own has its own wonderful curse to it.

542
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,119
But there are so many God blessed great musicians out here.

543
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,119
I mean you ever go out to uh Maui Sugar Mill.

544
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are you kidding me?

545
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: That out there in Tarzana. Yes, that's that's a bastion.

546
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,799
Ireland's thirty two on the edge of North Hollywood and

547
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,799
Van Eyes. Yeah, that's another. That's another great place. It's

548
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:31,079
like the San Fernando Valley pound for pound, I'll put

549
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,279
it against any other territory even OHI yeah, you know,

550
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,960
per per the guitars. Let's just put it at guitars

551
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,799
per capita. It's gonna be a high.

552
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Number, you know.

553
00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: Remember, I mean, I'm I'm literally five minutes from the

554
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,519
country club, the old country club. Yeah, I'm five minutes

555
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:53,559
from which is now at church, which is kind of wild.

556
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,839
Speaker 1: The Karate Kid country Club.

557
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,519
Speaker 4: But dude, I mean, you know how mus Coke starting

559
00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:59,359
there and now people are under praise and the Lord.

560
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, but dude, everything comes full circle, right.

561
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,759
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, but dude, we saw like Armored

562
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,200
Saint and Metallica there, I saw Malice there, I saw

563
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,599
fucking I mean, dude, we saw some of the greatest

564
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,359
rock bands there at the at the country club. Dude,

565
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640
that's like, you know, for us, one of the places

566
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,039
you strive to play when you were a kid growing

567
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:22,920
up in La it was the true badoor on the

568
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,160
rock sy you know.

569
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: The whiskey of Go Go.

570
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,039
Speaker 4: But but the country Club was kind of like almost

571
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,759
like an arena, you know, because it was so big,

572
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:31,480
you know, we loved it.

573
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,799
Speaker 2: Was any of those bands that when you saw them,

574
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,039
like like Metallica for instance, it seems aout the country club,

575
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,160
could you tell yeah.

576
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

577
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: The energy that was being displayed, not only by the

578
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,960
band but by the fans was it was palpable. It

579
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160
was like you just knew you were a part of

580
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,359
some listen. I was part of the sunding with with

581
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:54,599
Motley Crue. We were seeing Motley Crue in the clubs

582
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:58,519
and Rat as well, and and the energy was just

583
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200
you knew it was special. You knew you were a

584
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,240
part of something that was that had movement behind it.

585
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960
And that's what gave me and my brother and all

586
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,279
my friends where we grew up playing music, knowing that

587
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:12,319
I just saw a band play at the Troubadour and

588
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,000
now they're out with you know, Van Handler, out with

589
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,960
you know some you know. So that was a real

590
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,640
eye opening experience to be able to see those bands play.

591
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: And that's what's wild.

592
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm playing now with you know, Carlos Cavazo and

593
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,759
Warranty Martini and Steven Piercy. You know, that's a wild

594
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,880
thing for him because I grew up watching There's a

595
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,079
Carlos's first band was or one of the early bands

596
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,079
of a band called Snow, which is one of the

597
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:37,759
greatest rock bands for.

598
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,519
Speaker 3: Me, in the history of Los Angeles. Uh uh. And

599
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920
so getting to hang out with those guys now.

600
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: Is just such an amazing experience that I just got

601
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,240
to tell stories and stuff.

602
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,079
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you talk about those those early days

603
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:51,960
and when you really think about it, it was a

604
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400
moment in time. Yeah, I dou will never happen again,

605
00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:00,160
right and it you know, the same thing happened in

606
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,799
the sixties with the British invasion and the Beatles and

607
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,960
ship like that. But what happened out here between the

608
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,720
San Fernando Valley and the Sunset Strip during that period

609
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:18,720
of time. It's an exclusive club that you're in. Yeah.

610
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so wild to think that how many bands

611
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,319
came out during that time period.

612
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like it was Quiet Riot, it

613
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:29,000
was Motley, it was a rat.

614
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,599
Speaker 4: There were just so many like little one offs that

615
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200
I mean, we saw poison. I saw poison come into

616
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:38,079
town like they weren't here. And I was dating a

617
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,279
girl in Hollywood and I remember she was dating her

618
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,440
roommate was dating Brett, So we would go there and

619
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
before poison was poison, you know, I'd see Brett outside.

620
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,759
We talked and we were friends and stuff. We became

621
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:52,119
friends because we did, you know, roommates. You know, I

622
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,519
saw those guys get here. There was they were sleeping

623
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,599
on floors and fucking people. You know, I can't think

624
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,279
of where, but they were on sleep on floors at

625
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,519
some point. So again, you know, it was a time

626
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,559
period where if you wanted bad enough and you worked

627
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,839
your fucking ass off, you could have it.

628
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: And you didn't die.

629
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Yeah, there you go.

630
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Sorry to say it, but it's the truth.

631
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were.

632
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: An LA kid, right, I'm one of the last actually

633
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:18,640
born and raised.

634
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: It's actually I'm from Boyle Heights, which is around yeah

635
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:22,960
East sell it.

636
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, there are you kidding me that?

637
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: Like I said, there's some Mextan restaurants that we're leaving,

638
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
but there's Alan Bees that's right there boy Heights. And

639
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,759
then of course there's the great place right there on

640
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:36,920
Alvera Street that.

641
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,839
Speaker 3: Sellsto's that it's just like.

642
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: We go to the men and wife will go there,

643
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,799
just it takes us thirty five minutes to get there.

644
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,880
We'll eat in ten minutes, get back on our car

645
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,039
and drive thirty five minutes home.

646
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,279
Speaker 1: But did you ever there was a place It's a

647
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:56,720
placed on Santa Monica Boulevard right where it crosses either

648
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,759
the five or the one oh one called El g

649
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:00,880
On Burrito.

650
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: No oh man, it was.

651
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a burrito flea market.

652
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Yeah wow, I like the foutas like it's like almost

653
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680
they had almost everything in food trucks and you just

654
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:19,440
eat outside. Oh but it closed down after COVID it's gone,

655
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,200
but now El Grand Burrito. And then in Santa Monica

656
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,240
there is a place called Tacos Poor Forvar' And I

657
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:33,200
thought I thought that both of those restaurants should be

658
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,279
should receive some acclaim for what they named their establishments.

659
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, I'm sorry I missed that one.

660
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,079
Speaker 4: At least I would have let because that's what we

661
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:44,680
do now, me and my wife will.

662
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Go on a food tour and go find a new

663
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,960
place stage. Oh yeah, dude.

664
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I have you know. I've been down in Los Angeles.

665
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,519
I'm a Northern California kid, but I've been down in

666
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,519
LA for the past thirty years, and I found out

667
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:04,960
too truths to Mexican restaurants in Los Angeles. Number One,

668
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,839
the worse it looks on the outside, the better it

669
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,719
is on the inside. Yeah, anytime you see a Mexican

670
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,360
restaurant with neon lights and signs, avoid that place like

671
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,559
the plague. They're trying to get you in there because

672
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,840
no one wants to eat there. Number Two, dude, try

673
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,679
this sometime. I found a new test to try to

674
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,960
find a new Mexican place. I always look on a

675
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:36,280
Yelp or Uber Eats or whatever, and I search Caldo

676
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,360
the Poil. And if you make chicken soup good enough

677
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:45,519
to put it on the menu, I feel like I

678
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:48,760
can trust anything else. That's coming out of that kitchen.

679
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 4: I've always thought, if the beans are good at a

680
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,559
Mexican restaurant, then pretty much everything is going to be good.

681
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,159
But if the beans are somehow overcooked or have too

682
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,320
much fat or too much of a a specific ingredient

683
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,639
that Yats saw, that's the way the rest of our food's.

684
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: Going to be as well. Yeah.

685
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much science to Mexican food.

686
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: All right.

687
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, continue where I was going with. You're from there,

688
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:14,920
and you were talking about people, you know, sleeping on

689
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,440
floors like Blackie famously slept in a closet. Did you

690
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,599
ever have to go through that because you were from there,

691
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:21,960
you had you had a home to go to.

692
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

693
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,159
Speaker 4: No, I had a home to go to. You know

694
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,519
that that was one of the things, you know. Do

695
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:28,679
I think that it hurt me at all? I don't

696
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,320
think so. But I do know that there was a

697
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,119
sense of urgency of the guys I knew that came

698
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,199
out from other places, from you know, Michigan or from you.

699
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: Know, somewhere.

700
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,679
Speaker 4: They came out and they had a sense of urgency

701
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:42,400
because they didn't want to sleep on the floor anymore,

702
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400
so they worked ten times harder. I do I do

703
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,719
that very specifically. Yeah, guys did that. They worked for

704
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,880
a lot of those guys too. There was no going

705
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,599
back home.

706
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,119
Speaker 3: No, there wasn't. No, Yeah, no they couldn't.

707
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:56,519
Speaker 4: I knew guys that sold, like like John Carrabbi, who

708
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,360
I've known since he came here with his first band.

709
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I think what they're called around.

710
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,079
Speaker 2: So it was before the Scream.

711
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,679
Speaker 3: It was for the Scream. It'll come to me in

712
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,119
a minute.

713
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: But if I'm not mistaking, I think they sold their

714
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,280
harleys to get out here, or that they I remember

715
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,000
him saying that, you know, they really they they did

716
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,840
what they had to do to get out here. And

717
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:20,000
but a lot of bands I remember hearing about them

718
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,280
coming out from back East that were just they will

719
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,000
do anything to become successful, you know. And that to

720
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,039
me is a sign of you know, seriousness about it,

721
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:30,880
because a lot of bands, listen, you know this, a

722
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,239
lot of bands just you know, if it happened and

723
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,239
happened for them, if it didn't, it didn't, you know.

724
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,119
But there's a lot of musicians I know that we're

725
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,239
that they were not going to give up anytime soon.

726
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, we saw them on a decline of the

727
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,719
Western civilization part too, and then it never heard from

728
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,159
him again.

729
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Those guys. Yeah, they were

730
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,679
called Angara, that's what it was.

731
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, John Bell was called what was I mean,

732
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,280
I have to remember that for when he's on the

733
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,800
show in a couple of weeks. He doesn't know it yet,

734
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,719
but I'm just proclaiming it. You know, the right up,

735
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,800
must have the ride up, you know, getting signed, the

736
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,760
whole thing that must want to blast. But how was

737
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,320
it when grunge hit, or, as I like to call it,

738
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,519
the Great Wall of Nirvana? And that was kind of

739
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,000
I mean, obviously it was the end of something that

740
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,800
at that time probably really needed to end because it

741
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920
was just copycats clones in.

742
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: And I tell you something, I have gotten a lot

743
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,039
of shit for saying this, and and the truth was this,

744
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:32,039
you guys, if we had in our genre more Rats

745
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,880
and Motley's and more bands that really were fucking like

746
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,159
like Tesla, you know, I thought I thought Kicks was

747
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,000
fucking one of the greatest bands I've ever seen in

748
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,880
my life. If we had more of those bands, grunge

749
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,480
would have done what it did. The reason gruns was

750
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,400
as successful is because it was a response to a

751
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,599
bunch of bland fucking music.

752
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: That was a formula. You got a.

753
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,199
Speaker 4: Blonde singer, yep, you wrote some ballads, and then you

754
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,400
fucking got signed, and then you went to work.

755
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: That to me was.

756
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 4: Complete horseship, because to me, rock and roll was always

757
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,440
about kind of traveling into new places and still doing

758
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
it with angst and love and fucking with your balls

759
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,079
and your cock hanging out.

760
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,119
Speaker 3: That was rock and roll for me.

761
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,199
Speaker 4: You know, our plant, you know, out there with his

762
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440
fucking cock to the left on his in his t

763
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,760
I was like that motherfucker's badass, you know, yeah, you know,

764
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,039
I just I we lost all that, We lost all that.

765
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,760
There was no more integrity, there was no more less fucking.

766
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,199
That's why Guns n' Roses when they came out, I

767
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,280
remember we were too.

768
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: We were all in l A.

769
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: And of course I had known both the bands coming up.

770
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,679
You know, uh when it was uh what was out,

771
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,000
it was uh there was something else before that, uh.

772
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: Before Tracy started it as Guns and Roses.

773
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: But there was something else about for a second there.

774
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, excellent, excellent, Yeah.

775
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So but I and I remember we saw that

776
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,719
stuff and it was good.

777
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't phenomenal, it was okay.

778
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: And then then they went away and they came back,

779
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,559
and I remember we saw them at some small club

780
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:09,320
in Hollywood, and I was like, what the fuck.

781
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: It just happened?

782
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: Like you like, like I said, like you know, with

783
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,880
Motley and seeing certain bands come out, you know, we

784
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
saw Race gets Machine when they got the night they

785
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,840
got signed, we saw them at a venue and you

786
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,440
knew it.

787
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: You knew, like, holy shit, this is the beginning something

788
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,920
new and changed.

789
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,599
Speaker 4: It was like so like like a parent. And again

790
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,400
those bands all had heart, soul and a message. Guns

791
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,400
and Roses rage.

792
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: You know, any bend that came, you know, it's funny,

793
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,119
as I could say going off of that is Guns

794
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,639
n' Roses was one bookend of that.

795
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

796
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Gn R changed everything everything overnight.

797
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: Everything, dude.

798
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: I remember everybody looked like had teased hair and had

799
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,159
a certain look. And then they came out and then

800
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,039
literally the next day everybody had cowboy boots and let

801
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,159
their hair grow out long, and they looked a little

802
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:00,000
more fucking.

803
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: Like only chic. Like I was like, what just happened?

804
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,960
Like you said, it happened overnight. It was wild.

805
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: Well even though in the jungle video actual had the

806
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,119
fucking hair right, you know.

807
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,639
Speaker 3: When?

808
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: So when did you got into you got into movie

809
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:25,880
and TV music production? Correct? How long after Bullet Boys?

810
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,639
After after the original fizzle out? Did that happen? And

811
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,039
are you still doing it? Because your Wikipedia only goes

812
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,559
up to like twenty eighteen.

813
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: You know what.

814
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: Thank you for remind me. I'm gonna have to update that. Yeah,

815
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,639
that was through my wife. My wife was at Emi

816
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Music Publishing for a lot of years, so she was,

817
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,239
you know, getting me in contact with people there. And

818
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,519
there was a program there, the Master's Program, where they

819
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,000
were re recording masters and stuff. And I was bringing

820
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,719
in certain artists musicians with me and we're just retracking stuff,

821
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,159
putting stuff in you know, uh, just certain places, just

822
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,079
a placement for songs in television.

823
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: I did stuff some up with a couple of guys

824
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,239
out here.

825
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:03,639
Speaker 4: And the funny part about it is, I really was

826
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,119
what's the songs left the studio? For the most part,

827
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:08,880
I don't know really where they went, you know, I

828
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,840
just know they were sold out of here. But a

829
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,679
couple of them it was nice to hear, you know,

830
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,440
or see, like you know, in a pinball machine somewhere

831
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,119
or something like that. I still I think it takes

832
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,159
me in to no end when if you ever watched

833
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,679
the movie beer Fest, Bullet Boys has a heart of

834
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:28,000
heart Zarrakas and beer Fest right when they start to

835
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:32,199
train by drinking alcohol to to the point of nauseum

836
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,360
and then they hit the tape player and Bullet Boys

837
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,679
starts right then, you know, uh, to me stuff like that,

838
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,480
I just thought, it makes me happy to the land

839
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,400
that you know that we're still doing something out there

840
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,719
like that.

841
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,519
Speaker 2: Right. Well, it's so weird that there's three guys that

842
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,320
I know in our genre. You Tim Boser from junk

843
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,800
Yard and Fred Curry and I mean friends on a

844
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,480
whole nother one.

845
00:41:55,559 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's whole new level. Yeah, yeah, actually is Fred.

846
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: One day I was at a studio and we were

847
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,920
because we hang out just lunch and we have I

848
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,519
remember I did the first major tour of my life

849
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,079
was Cinderella Winger Bowl of Boys. It was like five

850
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,639
and a half months sold out, so we you know.

851
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,519
Speaker 3: When you do that, you live with somebody.

852
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,119
Speaker 1: Wow.

853
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fucking it was nutty cool nineteen Yeah,

854
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,320
it was absolutely and and Fred just took to me.

855
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,239
He liked me, said he was, hey, Jimmy d come

856
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,239
with me to go do what we're doing an in store,

857
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,920
come with me. And I'm like, okay, and I just

858
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,239
go hang out with him all day. So we have

859
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,880
always been close. I mean we talked literally, you know,

860
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,159
every other day. We still talk, you know, and and

861
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,039
we're just I love him dearly. But I went to

862
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,760
a studio one day and he's sitting there and he's like, hey,

863
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,800
because to my favorite, just go get those sticks and

864
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,320
then hit this floor Tom and give me like.

865
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,599
Speaker 3: This this this cadence oft gun shuck it to guns,

866
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:52,440
shuk it to guns.

867
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:54,599
Speaker 4: I go, yeah, and then I go and do it,

868
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,920
and then we uh, then we you know, we go

869
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,960
get lunch and we leave.

870
00:42:58,159 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

871
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 4: Fast forward, I'm an l a King's game and the

872
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,159
King score.

873
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: A goal and then this song comes out second Dig

874
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,599
and I go, what the I'm hitting a forecom in

875
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:18,320
the song? That's it? And I didn't even know that

876
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,199
the one it was more for the Kings. He doesn't

877
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,679
need it for the Kings. It was just I called

878
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:26,760
it and I go, dude, you were your epic bro epic,

879
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,559
that's amazing.

880
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys, if either of you

881
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440
guys have heard this, if you've been watching in the

882
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,239
NFL over the past season. But and this is probably

883
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,400
easily discernible by a quick Internet search, but I don't

884
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,559
work that way. I have a I have a feeling,

885
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:49,679
a sneaking suspicion that Paul Rogers sold his catalog and

886
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:57,719
someone involves with NFL Broadcasts bought it, and everything except

887
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,480
for Paul's voice has obviously been retracked. It's like you're

888
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:06,920
hearing bad Company, you're hearing free, But you know you're

889
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,039
not hearing bad Company. You're not hearing free. You are

890
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:16,480
hearing Paul Rogers and a bunch of La Studio musicians

891
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:23,239
who just wrote out everybody from a mechanical royalties going forward. Wow,

892
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,800
And I just I don't know the answer. I'm kind

893
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,199
of hoping somebody else does, but I'm sure the Internet

894
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,880
has the answer.

895
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,119
Speaker 2: But yes, yes, bad Company. This is according to the

896
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:41,360
AI overviewkay Primary Wave acquires the catalogs of bad Companies

897
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,159
Paul Rogers.

898
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:44,079
Speaker 1: There you go.

899
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,199
Speaker 2: It wasn't fully sold, alright. Lead singer Paul Rogers sold

900
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:51,199
a significant stake in this publishing royalties and master recording

901
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,079
income streams for both Bad Company and Free primary Wave

902
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,239
to Primary Wave Music in twenty twenty two.

903
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: And well, and now I feel empty? Dude, what am

904
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,880
I going to do? Now? What's my new conspiracy theory

905
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,599
is he I didn't want this solved immediately?

906
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right now.

907
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,599
Speaker 2: Well you can Nawston, that's the thing. You can tell

908
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,239
when that happens, because this is like, there's fucking cold

909
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,920
Gin is showing up its fucking commercials. Now, yeah, I

910
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:20,199
saw that. Fucking It's great, It's fucking great.

911
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather just company.

912
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 4: So I'm always conncerned that just the money needs to

913
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,079
be going to the right places. That's always after Spotify,

914
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:34,599
We're just fucked were the musicians are just I mean

915
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,679
I checked one time. I think Bullet Boys has like

916
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,119
six million streams, and I was getting like nothing, just

917
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:43,039
absolutely nothing, just crazy.

918
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just cashed out my uh for four years.

919
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,079
I think it was. I made eleven dollars. It's just

920
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:51,639
a good song.

921
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: Dude's so fucking just being as horrible. It's just fucking horrible, man.

922
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well grant it's only got like thirty seven streams.

923
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,840
But but listen.

924
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: But we all now know when fucking Lars Olark was

925
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,039
fucking ringing the bell.

926
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,599
Speaker 3: Back in the day. Yep, we should have all fucking

927
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:11,239
listened to him.

928
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,199
Speaker 1: And I was on I was on team Metallica during

929
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,480
that whole Napster ship.

930
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm telling you, I didn't understand what he was

931
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,039
talking about. I'll be person honest. I was like, how

932
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,800
do I fucking affect me? Like whatever, dude, this is

933
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,519
how it affects me.

934
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, this, yeah, exactly.

935
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: Well, apparently the rumor and innuendo says that there was

936
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,239
somebody had a fucking deal that was great for everybody,

937
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,280
and the record company said no, and then fuck it.

938
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,320
I'm just gonna the dude that created Napster and like

939
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,360
he brought them the idea and they're like, nah, fuck

940
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,159
this and it's going to ruin us.

941
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: Listen, of course, because now the record labels know they

942
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,039
can make much more money because they make the deals

943
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:55,679
themselves through this, So that's why they're like, why pay

944
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,239
these guys, But I can make the money. So it's

945
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,039
just it's it's a bad scene because you know, and

946
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,920
listen for guys like me and musicians who who you know,

947
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,280
get a little bit of something that's one thing. But

948
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,440
for a new band they make they make music for free.

949
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:12,679
Literally they just make it as a calling card. And

950
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:13,679
that's fucked up.

951
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Man.

952
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: That's just to me, like that.

953
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: It's not fucked up when you're nineteen, though, Well it isn't.

954
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 4: It isn't because you both you and I both know

955
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,440
so that we would do it for free back then.

956
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: Yes, because that's it's just that's all you're right.

957
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: But when after ten years of this guy doing it

958
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,320
and he has a kid and stuff and realizes, he's like,

959
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,320
I get nothing from this.

960
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a tough part.

961
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,559
Speaker 2: But well do you think, Jimmy, let me ask you this,

962
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:43,880
do you think that's going to affect the business going

963
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,760
forward with people wanting to get into it.

964
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: I think that what it's going to do personally is

965
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,159
it's going to alter the way people the amount of

966
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,639
time and effort they put into music.

967
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:57,559
Speaker 3: I think they're going to use AI to make music.

968
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,599
It's not going to be something.

969
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,519
Speaker 4: That like you and I sit like you got your

970
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:04,440
guitar behind you. You sat there for fucking years trying

971
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,400
to fucking go okay, what the fuck? And then you

972
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,360
practice and you learn, and then you went and you

973
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,079
got into a studio and you paid the guy. This process, Okay,

974
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:14,800
I think that kids say, we'll go, well, God, that

975
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,440
seems like I got to from it. But I'll just

976
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,360
have AI do this or I'll have this do this,

977
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,199
And I think that we're just gonna get a water

978
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,079
down version of.

979
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: Music these days.

980
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,159
Speaker 1: I agree, And I'm going to add to that by

981
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:31,320
offering that we're going to see a lot less touring musicians. Yeah,

982
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,400
because people are now free to create something on a

983
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,280
computer that they cannot reproduce and.

984
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: They don't have to. You're right, they won't have to.

985
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: You're right, Yeah, right, Well, and that's that for all

986
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,239
of us, because I want listen.

987
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: We grew up watching some of the greatest rock and.

988
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: Roll musicians in the history of the world. We saw

989
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:55,119
Queen in nineteen seventy eight. We saw Queen, and but

990
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,840
when we left that the Forum, I remember just feeling

991
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,360
like I had discovered plutonium. I'm not like I discovered

992
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,880
something that was going to change the world. I did

993
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,440
by seeing Freddie Mercury, you know. But the year before

994
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,920
we saw Van Helen at the Forum and set Dave

995
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,519
Roth and Ederar. Van Helen was just like you feel

996
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,159
like you're now you have the secret to life, to

997
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,559
the universe, you know what to do now. It just

998
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,320
it just changes your life. And now these kids they

999
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,360
will never have that experience, do you right.

1000
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean they can still watch The Wall on acid. Yeah,

1001
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,480
kind of get the same, right, right, But yeah, no,

1002
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,519
that's wow. Yeah, absolutely, And but I guess the other

1003
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:40,880
side of that coin is it's going to force live

1004
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,360
music back to the localities and we're going to start

1005
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,880
seeing the resurgence of garage bands. I hope so fucking

1006
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:49,480
heavy and hard now.

1007
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,679
Speaker 3: I hope so. And I haven't seen some of that.

1008
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,599
Speaker 2: You're right, Jimmy, do you think the relationship with the

1009
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,760
music has changed? I mean, you remember what it was.

1010
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,920
It was so different for us because we didn't have

1011
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,679
it in our fingertips. I remember going to my first

1012
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,599
Kis show, which was hot in the shade, and I

1013
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,480
had that feeling of, oh my god, I'm in the

1014
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,519
same building as fucking Jen and Paul right now. Yeah,

1015
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,719
you know, do you think that relationship has changed and

1016
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,039
that that worship has changed?

1017
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: Huh Well, I think I think here's what's weird.

1018
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,679
Speaker 4: Because I work with a lot of young kids, you know,

1019
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,000
well not anymore, but that was a while I was

1020
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,119
working with younger kids, and to them kissing Van Halen

1021
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,159
and Aerosmith, they're that's more folklore for them, you know.

1022
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,719
For us, we had the ability to go, oh, they're

1023
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,960
in town. I'm gonna buy a ticket to go see them.

1024
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1025
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,599
Speaker 4: For for them, that this is it's like like Hammer

1026
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,320
the Gods. It's like this this entity out there. But

1027
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,000
I what I will say, that's what's interesting is we

1028
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:50,079
don't have any musicians who are leaving the charge. I

1029
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,199
feel like that's something that I've noticed that, you know,

1030
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,400
like a movement. You know, when Marilyn Manson came out,

1031
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,400
I remember seeing all these little goth kids coming out.

1032
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,360
You know, I don't care what anybody says about fred Durst.

1033
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,239
He maybe a dick, you may hate him, but when

1034
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,360
he came out the way he dressed and the way

1035
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,960
he acted, I saw a bunch of little fuckers running

1036
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,440
around like.

1037
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: Him, you know.

1038
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: And those are again, these are the entities that help

1039
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:18,159
to further these musicians as they're growing up, and they

1040
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:19,480
can say, oh, yeah, when I was a kid, I

1041
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:22,199
was in a fred Durston. Now, of course I found

1042
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:26,559
Tom Waits you know, I found you know, Captain Beefheart,

1043
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:28,760
and I understand more about what it is to be

1044
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,320
a real musician. But I just think that unfortunately because

1045
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:36,239
you know, for several things, MTV, which I don't know

1046
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,119
if you guys know this, but MTV is done as

1047
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:39,800
of the thirty first year.

1048
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, which a very important part of your career too.

1049
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: Listen, for a lot of musicians that we would not

1050
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,239
have the careers we'd had if it wasn't for him.

1051
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,559
Speaker 1: Again, you're members of an exclusive club.

1052
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and uh and and again without them and

1053
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:58,440
without like real radio bands just can't have the careers

1054
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,960
that they deserve, no matter how they are, because they

1055
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,119
just don't have the tentacles that go out everywhere and

1056
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,920
get to fans and people go.

1057
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh, what band is this?

1058
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,559
Speaker 4: Oh this is really cool. They just don't have that ability,

1059
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,639
and that's a tough part. But they do have the Internet, yep.

1060
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,159
But also in that same instance, there's now where there

1061
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,400
used to be ten thousand bands, now there's literally one

1062
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,039
hundred and ten thousand bands, And so it's you're dizzy

1063
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:26,519
from the amount of intake, you know, looking around for

1064
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,280
new bands, you're dizzy from it.

1065
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,159
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it was. Actually I did want to bring

1066
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,559
this up before when I first brought it up. But

1067
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,920
you know, Trunk, any Trunk always says it like, it's

1068
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:39,280
great that anybody can put out music, but it sucks

1069
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,920
that anybody can put out music because everybody bitched about

1070
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,519
the gatekeepers, but those gatekeepers did it a very important job.

1071
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,159
Yeah you know what I mean.

1072
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:50,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said about podcasting when it first started.

1073
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,079
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I've.

1074
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,639
Speaker 1: Spent thirty years in radio. I'm like, what now, anybody

1075
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:57,559
anybody can fucking talk into a goddamn microphone. This is

1076
00:52:57,639 --> 00:52:58,519
fucking bullshit.

1077
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 4: Yes and no, because because listen, I watched some podcasts

1078
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,079
and I'll watch one one time, and I go, these.

1079
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,039
Speaker 3: These casts don't know what they're doing there.

1080
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: They think it's it's as simple as talking to a microphone,

1081
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:12,079
and it's far far far from that. In order to

1082
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,360
engage in audience with with actual with with some type

1083
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,000
of intellect that makes them go oh, I never thought

1084
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,840
about that.

1085
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker 3: That's a that's an art form in itself.

1086
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: I don't care what the fuck are you doing on

1087
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,360
this show?

1088
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: Oll listen, you offered me some good money.

1089
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, oh, there's that yeah, Jimmy kind

1090
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,760
of taking this full circle. Since we're on the business

1091
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,440
side of it right now, has there been any talk

1092
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:47,480
about Bullet Boys maybe wanting to do music. Are you

1093
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:48,960
just taking it one step at a time?

1094
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: Well we are till.

1095
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are taking it one step at a time.

1096
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:56,480
But I spoke with make a while back, or I say,

1097
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:57,920
well a while back. We've all had been doing this

1098
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,000
for about the less of a month, and he mentioned,

1099
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:04,760
you know, maybe just sitting down and sifting through some

1100
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,719
of the old demos that we have, And I think

1101
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,800
that's a really good idea.

1102
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: You know, it would be nice to put something out.

1103
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 4: Uh, let's be honest, though, is he does anybody really

1104
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,360
care when.

1105
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,519
Speaker 3: A band from our our generation.

1106
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: Puts on a new album, because what we've done already

1107
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,760
is we've given them what they want. Okay, listen to

1108
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,440
the first album, you know, it's just it's what made us.

1109
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,719
The second album for me is my favorite because I

1110
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,360
was actually involved in the process. I was meaning as

1111
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,719
far as I was, I was there, I was present.

1112
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,119
But I think that bands put records out today for

1113
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,480
a different reason altogether.

1114
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:48,159
Speaker 3: I think it's to show Hi, we still know how

1115
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:48,599
to do this.

1116
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:51,599
Speaker 4: One thing right, and of course then it provides new

1117
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:52,440
merch as well.

1118
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: And you know, for a fan fan, they can say, oh.

1119
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: You know what, I could go I would like to

1120
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,639
go out and purchase or download or whatever the hell

1121
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:03,039
the problem these days, you know, And I think that

1122
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:05,199
that is a good thing, because, you know what, I

1123
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,679
don't want to live off laurels. At the same time,

1124
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,599
you know, I'm not fooled. I don't think we're gonna

1125
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:12,639
sell you know, a ship ton of records. I don't

1126
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,400
think we want to, you know, break any sound barry

1127
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,599
of like whoa, something great happen. But I think it

1128
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:20,840
would be fun. I think it would be fun to

1129
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,519
get the studio with Mark, with Mick and Lonnie and

1130
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:27,440
sit there and count out one dude well too, and

1131
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,320
you know, do do a recording, you know, and actual

1132
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,559
recording as a band. To me, that would be a

1133
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:34,039
lot of fun. I would hope for that.

1134
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, like you said, it's like, does

1135
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,559
anybody really care? It's like that's a double edged sword,

1136
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:42,559
because it is. I did, like I do the Patreon

1137
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:46,760
and I did an episode on that. But there's the

1138
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,440
other side of it, where the hardcore fans do well,

1139
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,119
think about.

1140
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: It this way. Think about this though. Here's a good question.

1141
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:57,320
Do you think you'd be more apt to sell your

1142
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,440
new record to an audience after you showed them the

1143
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:07,400
respect of not playing any of your new songs? Ooh,

1144
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,519
that's a good question, because gay, hey, on your way,

1145
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:13,360
by the way, end of the show. By the way,

1146
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,400
we got a new record. Uh, we're not gonna play

1147
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,079
any of it, but you can pick up a copy

1148
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:20,760
on your way out. Here's the song you all came for,

1149
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,000
end of show house lights goodbye Hey, you're touching.

1150
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, you know what that's still on

1151
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,320
as bad.

1152
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 4: And I know we've all seen this where we go

1153
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,960
and see whatever favorite bands from you know, from the

1154
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:36,400
back in the day, and they don't play the songs

1155
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,360
you go to see them play You're life. Well, dude,

1156
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,519
I want to hear those three songs. You didn't play

1157
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:43,719
any of those songs. That, to me is the bigger

1158
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,079
slap of the face. I'm sorry.

1159
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I agree, I agree, but i'd

1160
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,920
like The Black Crows is one of my favorite bands

1161
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,639
of all time. I've seeing them over fifty times and

1162
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,840
I don't really care when they play. She talks to angels.

1163
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,840
That's when I'll go take a he can get a beer.

1164
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're You're right, that's different. You don't want

1165
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,840
to know why for me personally, because the radio killed

1166
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,199
that song for me, right. You know, once I heard

1167
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239
it at Ralphs, I was I was over that.

1168
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: Trou oh ship. Dude. Yeah, you're just trying to get

1169
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,639
some pepper and chini and some toilet paper fu.

1170
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, I found the semay

1171
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,519
about Death Leopard because I was a Death Leopard fan

1172
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,199
and that at a time, I just I got thick

1173
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,679
of them, not because any thing of their own doing.

1174
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,360
The radio stations in LA played them to death.

1175
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,599
Speaker 3: And it made me not like them.

1176
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,519
Speaker 2: But I think we have that mentality from the musician

1177
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:44,360
point of view, there's a reason that when they play

1178
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,079
those songs, the crowd goes wild, and there's a reason

1179
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:51,559
those songs had that airplay is because they're good for you.

1180
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,800
Didn't hate on the mind all you want, Like I said,

1181
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:56,559
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,

1182
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,639
I know exactly what you meant. I didn't. I know

1183
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,920
you didn't mean that. But I think sometimes that as

1184
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:05,400
musicians and being in the industry, we have to remember

1185
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,119
that instead of just hating this fucking song because we've

1186
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,760
heard it ten billion times. Well, there's a reason we've

1187
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,320
heard it ten billion times.

1188
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1189
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also that's probably for me personally. That's when

1190
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:21,000
I stopped listening to the radio and thought, you know,

1191
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,519
I mean, I don't know how many years ago I

1192
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:27,719
was buying songs from iTunes, I was buying them, you know,

1193
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:29,159
I don't know if you guys knows, you know that

1194
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:30,920
you can't buy songs anywhere from iTunes?

1195
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:32,639
Speaker 1: Oh you rend them?

1196
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,519
Speaker 3: You rent them?

1197
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can't anymore. Did that change?

1198
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: You have to subscribe?

1199
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you subscribe.

1200
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:40,679
Speaker 1: Subscription is the I went to go.

1201
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: Buy something other day and nope, it's not. The option

1202
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:43,800
is not there.

1203
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,559
Speaker 2: Did you have to go to the store.

1204
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,599
Speaker 4: Even at the store, I think there's something there that

1205
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:50,840
was weird that I couldn't do.

1206
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,079
Speaker 3: I was it was a weird.

1207
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: Because I've I've bought songs recently.

1208
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: Did you see you bought songs? Yeah?

1209
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:01,239
Speaker 2: Like, how long is it has it been? Do you think, well,

1210
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:02,559
what I'm doing?

1211
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:05,039
Speaker 4: I have a funk band, you guys, a funk cover

1212
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:08,639
band that we just played nothing but the funk and

1213
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:12,719
the whole funk, and there I was able to buy something,

1214
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,880
but I bought him from somewhere else, and it wasn't

1215
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,800
them at bottom of hear somewhere else. Uh but uh,

1216
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:22,119
and then I put him into a which is really bad.

1217
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:22,559
Speaker 1: You guys.

1218
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: There's there's an app now that creates stems.

1219
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:31,719
Speaker 4: So I took out the drums, the guitar and the bass,

1220
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,119
and then I have all I have earth wind and fire,

1221
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,480
all the horns, all the background vocals, all the keyboard

1222
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:40,280
parts in my pa here to a click track.

1223
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: So you're and you're playing along with it.

1224
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So me, I'm on drums, I got a guitar player,

1225
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,199
I got a bass player and they both lead sing

1226
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:51,360
and it is my wife's in the house and she

1227
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:51,719
comes in.

1228
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,639
Speaker 3: She's like, that wasn't the Gap band And I'm like, nope,

1229
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:56,039
she goes, that was you. I go yep.

1230
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,159
Speaker 4: She's like, it's out because because you have the ability

1231
00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:02,440
through technology. You know, now we're you know, we're saying

1232
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,280
some negative stuff about technology today.

1233
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: You know what you know, But that is absolutely.

1234
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,239
Speaker 4: Incredible for me because I want a three piece bad

1235
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,760
and this is a way to do it where I

1236
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,480
can still do all the instruments, but.

1237
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,199
Speaker 3: It is scary to know.

1238
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,639
Speaker 4: I got you know, Stevie Wonder's actual keyboard part, you

1239
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:21,519
know in my studio.

1240
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,159
Speaker 1: That's pretty sweet, dude. Yeah, that's that's using that's using

1241
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,960
the technology, not the technology using you.

1242
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: You know, and go, let me ask you this, Jimmy,

1243
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,159
I mean, since you're doing that, I mean, how do

1244
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:39,440
you feel about bands from your era using tracks and

1245
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:41,079
using avery? What?

1246
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:41,119
Speaker 3: What?

1247
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:41,639
Speaker 2: Uh?

1248
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 4: What?

1249
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:45,519
Speaker 2: Miss the late great Jeff Lebar used to call pixie dust.

1250
01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, you know it's funny because I know you know.

1251
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,199
Speaker 2: A lot of people who do it well, of course.

1252
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: Of course, but I know Eddie Trunk had had you know,

1253
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:59,639
he really frowns upon it, and he's mentioned in many

1254
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:01,599
a time that he thinks it's you know, if you

1255
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:04,800
can do what you can do, then maybe you shouldn't.

1256
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,639
Speaker 3: Do it, you know.

1257
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:10,079
Speaker 4: I I used to be a hard stand on you

1258
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,039
know what, if you can't do it, then fucking stop

1259
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:12,440
doing it.

1260
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 3: But the older I get them.

1261
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,119
Speaker 4: I realized if the fans are having a good time,

1262
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,480
then I.

1263
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't care anymore.

1264
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,039
Speaker 4: Honestly, No, listen if it's every bit, if you're if

1265
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:28,119
you're not singing if you're not playing the guitar and basically,

1266
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,320
then it's like that that's a hard no. But if

1267
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,199
you're still playing and you have background vocals or keyboard

1268
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:38,199
part or some different some go, that's different. But if

1269
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:42,719
you're doing everything, then stop.

1270
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: I just stop. Come on.

1271
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think if the lead vocals are all tracks,

1272
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,079
it's like, yeah, yeah, you know, I I agree. I've

1273
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,440
heard that Frankie Valley is basically that's what he's also

1274
01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:56,119
nine hundred years old.

1275
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: That's different.

1276
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,159
Speaker 4: Now I accept that guy because I can still I'll

1277
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:01,039
see him personally.

1278
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: I'll go with that.

1279
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,159
Speaker 4: But if you're still in your early your late fifties

1280
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,599
sixties and you already got backing tracks doing every instrument there,

1281
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:10,320
and that's like, that's a hard like come on you guys.

1282
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:12,639
Speaker 2: Like if I ever get to go see Barry manel

1283
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,599
and I find out he's lip syncing, I'll be crying.

1284
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:19,119
Not because I'm in the room with Barry Manilo right.

1285
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that and because he doesn't have a big

1286
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,679
band there. Yes, you will cry when you're in the

1287
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,159
room with Barry Manilow. We all know it. All cry.

1288
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,800
Jimmy will cry. Everybody cries. He writes the songs that

1289
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,920
make the young Girls cry.

1290
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: He took the words right out of my mouth.

1291
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, must have been while you were kissing me, Jimmy,

1292
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:42,840
is there anybody left that you haven't met that you

1293
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,880
would get nervous around or still do get nervous around?

1294
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:49,320
Like every time I see Cottson, I hail him. He's

1295
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,559
a friend of mine. But it's like, Hi, Richard, is

1296
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,480
there anybody you get nervous around or would get nervous around?

1297
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,519
Speaker 3: You know? I don't think so because and I'll tell

1298
01:02:59,559 --> 01:02:59,880
you why.

1299
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:00,599
Speaker 1: Guys.

1300
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: On my twenty first birthday at the Rainbow Bar and Grill,

1301
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:07,880
I was sitting there and my manager at the time,

1302
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,679
Dave Kaplan, who still manages me on you know from

1303
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:13,440
time to time, Dave Kaplan, he walked over to me

1304
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,239
and he goes, Jimmy, he goes, get up. We were

1305
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:17,800
out at a table, got a huge party in the

1306
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,000
very back of the of the place. He walks me

1307
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:24,840
over and there's Robert Plant sitting right there, and he

1308
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,400
goes like I'm the special one. He goes, Robert Plant,

1309
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,000
I would like you to meet Jimmy Deander from Bullet Boys.

1310
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:34,840
And Robert gets up out of the booth and I'll

1311
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,639
never forget because and I'm not a short guy.

1312
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm sem I'm sixteens old.

1313
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I remember he stood up and I remember

1314
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,960
I looked up at him.

1315
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: This is in nineteen eighty.

1316
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:49,679
Speaker 4: Nine, eight ninety somewhere in that department, and I remember

1317
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,000
looking up at him and he starts talking to me,

1318
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:54,039
and he's like, hey, mate, so how's it going. And

1319
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:56,159
I'm like, oh, it's going good, you know. And I'm

1320
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:02,400
talking to Robert Plant about music. And I just remember,

1321
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,119
like like having flashbacks of going to the midnight showing

1322
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,039
of watching song remains the same right there in UCLA.

1323
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:12,199
I kept in there's a movie theater they used to

1324
01:04:12,239 --> 01:04:16,800
have a midnight showing a rocky horror picture Zeppelin the Wall,

1325
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,559
and I remember like just looking at him and then

1326
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:22,320
here he is talking to me about music.

1327
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,199
Speaker 3: And after that it was.

1328
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 4: Kind of like everybody I met, Like I hung out

1329
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,519
at Van Halen and Ed was always you know, he's

1330
01:04:29,559 --> 01:04:30,039
a sweetheart.

1331
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: Used to give me big wet kisses on my cheek,

1332
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:32,559
you know.

1333
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: One of the first time I ever started at Coke

1334
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:38,199
was with davidly Roth and Mark Treene at the Rainbow.

1335
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: I was like seventeen.

1336
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:44,039
Speaker 4: Years old, but Robert Plant was just a different It

1337
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:47,280
was like, I can't ever explain it. It's just like

1338
01:04:47,559 --> 01:04:49,760
it's like pretty much almost talking to a beatle or something.

1339
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,920
It's just like, you know, chances. So after that, nobody

1340
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:55,320
really ever fucked me up like that because I just

1341
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,039
kind of like it. You just kind of go, why

1342
01:04:57,079 --> 01:04:58,960
I just saw the sun and now you know there's

1343
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,559
other things but the the sun.

1344
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:02,559
Speaker 1: You ever thought about writing a book?

1345
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,599
Speaker 4: You know, I've got I've had some experiences and and

1346
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,559
I've talked to people and they said I should do that,

1347
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,079
especially with my getting clean and sober, because that there

1348
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,599
was some really dark, ugly stuff that I experienced and

1349
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:17,519
they said that stuff that, you know, and then getting

1350
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:21,719
clean really could be a good a good read. But

1351
01:05:21,719 --> 01:05:24,679
but stories like that. And got into a fight with

1352
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,079
Eddy van Halen, a physical fist fight.

1353
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: Hold on, time out, time hold listen.

1354
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,119
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into that right now, but

1355
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,199
I but listen, listen.

1356
01:05:33,079 --> 01:05:33,559
Speaker 2: This time.

1357
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,199
Speaker 1: That will be in the book.

1358
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:38,679
Speaker 3: It will be. It will be because it was. It was.

1359
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:39,960
It was a thing.

1360
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,119
Speaker 2: Did he show up in a in a hummer with

1361
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:45,119
the fucking with with the camel shorts and fucking guns

1362
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,119
and ship trying to get his guitar backs from you or.

1363
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:50,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us, give us venue time of day. And

1364
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:53,800
what he was wearing, just give us that much.

1365
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: Is that the forum.

1366
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:59,239
Speaker 4: It was in his dressing room and it was surrounded

1367
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:03,079
by uh two of his security guards and my security guards.

1368
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome to start drums.

1369
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: Just very drunk and coked up. It's the very bad scene.

1370
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:21,559
Speaker 2: Good times, Uh, Mark Mark, And of course I said Mark,

1371
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:25,760
well hi Mark, Uh Jimmy people want to find you.

1372
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:28,559
Where can they find you?

1373
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: You know, I don't I'm not like a really heavy

1374
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,239
presence in the internet world, but I am on all socials,

1375
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,159
so you can find me anywhere from Facebook to Instagram,

1376
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,199
TikTok x, you know pretty much all those places. And uh,

1377
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:48,400
you know, I do my best to to to to

1378
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,559
stay in the know. I'm working on a YouTube channel

1379
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:53,960
so I can start doing I'm doing drum stuff. A

1380
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:58,039
breakdown of like, let's listen to Aerosmith. Let's talk about

1381
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,760
what Joey Kramer did in this one section, and let's

1382
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,119
dissect it and go from high att to snare him

1383
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:03,599
to kick drum.

1384
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:05,599
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna start doing that hopefully somewhere soon.

1385
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:11,639
Speaker 2: Nice breaking down one hundred thousand years the live one version.

1386
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,000
Oh see Peter and Chris now one of the most

1387
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:19,400
underrated and all fucking drummers that people shop on. And

1388
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,760
he's so fucking awesome.

1389
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,719
Speaker 4: I'll go further than that, is he he is possibly

1390
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,840
one of the most important drummers in in uh, in

1391
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:29,880
contemporary music.

1392
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,199
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why. I know, I know drummers

1393
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:33,320
will go what but.

1394
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 4: No, no, if this is a fucking billion percent truth, he

1395
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,199
influenced the starting of a of a human being picking

1396
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,199
up drumsticks and putting them down on a beat on

1397
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,239
a on a drum and a snare drum on something,

1398
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:50,840
possibly more than any drummer in the history of the world.

1399
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,800
And I'll tell you this is the reason why, Okay

1400
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:56,920
a John Bonham, when you start to listen to drumming

1401
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,280
there he's too out of your range.

1402
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: What he does seems it's it's it's like going to

1403
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:07,280
the moon. It's just too much. But he did.

1404
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: And remember the Beatles. The music movement had started with

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,679
Ringo Starry. I mean, you know, you really couldn't be

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01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,880
a musician. It was something that somebody else did. But

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,319
by the mid seventies everybody was trying to be a musician,

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,680
and Peter Chris was one of the first guys to say, listen,

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do this God.

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Speaker 3: And when he did that, I was like, I want

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01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,079
to do that. I want I want to do what

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01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:35,039
he's doing. Show me. I want who can show me

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01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:35,439
how to do this?

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Speaker 4: It was like almost like I said earlier, it's like discovering, uh,

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01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:44,159
you know, an ingredient that you didn't know existed on

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the planet, and then he shows it to you and

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01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:47,760
you just want to do it. And I did it

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,600
every day once I you know, once I learned how

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,239
to play the drum beat to Do You Love Me?

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Speaker 3: I played that every day.

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Speaker 4: For hours and hours every day, all day, months and

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01:08:58,039 --> 01:08:59,359
two years.

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Speaker 2: And it was It's weird. It's like with Peter and

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even with Steven Adler, there was a swing and there

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01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:09,479
was a feel that nobody could replicate. There was it

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,319
was all in the wrists. And because you know, obviously

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01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:13,560
Pet you know, Peter came up on Krupa and and

1428
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,800
all those big band jazz stuff, which which is what

1429
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,720
he brought to rock and roll, and he just had

1430
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a f feel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did ye.

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Speaker 4: But but but you have the nail on the head

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because he came from a big band background.

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Speaker 3: That's what gave him.

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Speaker 4: And Kiss their swing and uh and Steven Adler, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you could say whatever you want.

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01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 4: When Steven would get up and do those three songs

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,680
with gn R and when he came back for that minute,

1439
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:44,640
it sounded it was guns n' roses. Nothing against Frank,

1440
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,520
nothing against any drumm spender, the old fucking you're all great.

1441
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,960
But when he played those songs, everyone went, oh, that's it.

1442
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:54,680
What I was trying to figure out what was wrong.

1443
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,920
He's not fucking there. When he played Dude Onto, I

1444
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,880
was like, I exhaled him.

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,399
Speaker 3: I did got heart. At the same time, I was like,

1446
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,239
thank you, Steven, thank you. Fuck. It's just so perfect, man.

1447
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,119
Speaker 1: That's how you know. That's how you know it's not real.

1448
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:16,640
Bad company songs on the NFL promo bumpers right. One

1449
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,039
other quick question for you, Jimmy. You mentioned the funk

1450
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:24,039
cover band that you're in. You guys play around the

1451
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:28,159
San Fernando Valley and part two of that question. Although

1452
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:31,439
they're not a traditional funk band, do you guys do

1453
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,800
any blood sweat and tears.

1454
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,079
Speaker 4: We don't do blood, sweat and tears, but we literally

1455
01:10:36,359 --> 01:10:38,640
the band's called Mandatory Get Down.

1456
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Mandatory Get Down.

1457
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,119
Speaker 4: So three Piece is Derek Day, who actually plays with

1458
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:49,359
Stephen Perkins in a couple of bands, and he's actually playing.

1459
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 3: With a couple of different guys. He's just a sweetheart

1460
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,640
of a kid. And then the other gentleman is, Oh

1461
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,439
my god, I'm gonna go blank because of the medicine.

1462
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,239
I'm on. I'm so you guys know I'm getting over

1463
01:10:59,279 --> 01:10:59,720
cold right now?

1464
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1465
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 4: Griffin Tucker, Sorry, sorry, Griffin, Okay, Griffin Tucker is a

1466
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,800
is a phenomenal musician, singer. Sorry, but but those guys

1467
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,359
they play in Perspective bands and they came together with

1468
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,079
me and we do these We we do everything from

1469
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:19,119
Michael Jackson and I mean the good Michael Jackson to Parliament.

1470
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: Not the not the child toucher Michael Jackson, the good

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:23,239
Michael Jackson.

1472
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,159
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, we don't do any child touching, Ohio players,

1473
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,920
we do uh gosh darn a cameo. I mean, we

1474
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,359
do songs that I mean even word up, bro, we

1475
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:37,880
do all that stuff. And I'm telling you it's three

1476
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,000
hours of dance that you'll come and see it. And

1477
01:11:40,039 --> 01:11:42,319
every song you'll go, I fucking love this song, and

1478
01:11:42,359 --> 01:11:44,399
the next song that was fire. I love this song.

1479
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,479
Every song we play. At one point you just kind

1480
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,600
of go, this is exhausted. At some point it's just.

1481
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,239
Speaker 1: All right, mandatory get down. Is that on the Insta

1482
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,279
or the twitters as we like? All right, but you're

1483
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:57,920
gonna see me out of the show, dude.

1484
01:11:58,199 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: Rehearsal are in here and you'll gonna come out and

1485
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:03,119
hang out. But we're definite gonna be booking out in between.

1486
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:05,039
Bullet Boys and their bands that they got going.

1487
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: All right, fucking love it, Jimmy DeAnda, Bullet Boys back again,

1488
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:16,000
Yes boys, good Bullet looking up now outrow Music. Mike Dawson.

1489
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,279
People want to find you. Where can they find the

1490
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:19,560
great Dos Angeles.

1491
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm just the at Dos Angeles, all over the place, Twitter,

1492
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,039
all over your place, everywhey simple.

1493
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,159
Speaker 3: I love it.

1494
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,119
Speaker 2: That's right. Of course. You can hear Dawson on the

1495
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:33,880
Adam Corolla Show, on the Water Cooler and North Carolina Charlotte.

1496
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,159
Speaker 1: Whoo, that's true, that's true. You can hear me weekday

1497
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:41,159
afternoons from three to seven pm on ninety five point

1498
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:44,760
seven FM The Ride in Charlotte, North Carolina.

1499
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: I love it, and of course you can find the show.

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01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:49,520
The show page is another refor podcast on the Facebook.

1501
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,159
Can find me Real Lizzie Prisy, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, cameo

1502
01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:58,119
and the Patreon. It's only among kids. If you're listening

1503
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:00,800
to this, you heard it commercial free on the Patreon.

1504
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:03,439
You heard it on the fucking Apple. You're like, oh

1505
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,159
Jesus Christ's commercials are pissing me off. Five dollars a

1506
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:13,159
month on behalf of Jimmy Deander, Mike Dawson. My name

1507
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:16,439
is Dizzy Presley. Don't forget when I lack and talent,

1508
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:18,239
I'll make up for the cock.

1509
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: I love it.

1510
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you very much.

1511
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,239
Speaker 3: We're a little late. Just say good night, Christie, good night,

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01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:36,840
good night,