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<v Speaker 1>Get weird on a Thursday. Why not we have weird

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday. Chris com Ronnie is live in studio. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are both fans of the sunshine. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy a little bit of rain from time to

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<v Speaker 1>time or is this just an indicator of what we're.

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<v Speaker 2>In form The answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, like yes and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's fine. I think we were absurdly spoiled the

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<v Speaker 2>last month. Yes, were something that's I don't remember ever

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<v Speaker 2>happening here, like end of September through basically most of October,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's eighty degrees every day, like no clouds in

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<v Speaker 2>the sky. This is fine, this is this is acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about it. That rain and wind means like clear air,

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<v Speaker 2>chrisp aair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it does.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>all aiming for in this place.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, and we have been spoiled with an actual fall,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll take that. Christopher, how are you man? Happy Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>Things good with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, man. I'm standing up straight because I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is on YouTube. If you want to go watch

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<v Speaker 1>us on YouTube, go ahead. We get like two people, man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it, you know, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>keep the lights low.

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<v Speaker 2>Four it's Aaron and John Paul waiting to get screen

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<v Speaker 2>grabs of us embarrassing ourselves. Good point.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, there's currently four viewers on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pressures on? Can you find out who it is? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see the.

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<v Speaker 1>Accounts of good question? Can you porter? Negative? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Negative?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's see the.

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<v Speaker 4>Christopher Comaraddie funk is one is one of them, though

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<v Speaker 4>the Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Comaraddi in studio situation might change things. So hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>get to ten. Let's see if we can get to

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<v Speaker 1>ten YouTube viewers by the end of four point thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>which is when Chris leaves us, So appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent shirt which features Aaron falk On talking sports, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the goat Adam Miklich behind him, correct the goat?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need an explanation?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>So, when Aaron was the jazz beat writer for The Tribune,

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing a live shot after the Joe Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers series. They won Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven from La Yeah and.

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<v Speaker 2>KU TV had Aaron Non live to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were kind of fumbling around last second to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure everything was going to be go off all

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<v Speaker 2>copaesthetic and Adam to make sure Aaron got his ear

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<v Speaker 2>piece in, put the thumb behind it and shoved it

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<v Speaker 2>basically all the way into his ear drum. So that

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<v Speaker 2>cringe you're seeing Aaron on Aaron's face is a legit painful. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope my ear drum hasn't ruptured.

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<v Speaker 1>We're down to one viewer on you. Yes, we getting

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<v Speaker 1>a oh man, that is why do Why don't I

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<v Speaker 1>have that shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>Can order one? I'll send you in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh please do?

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<v Speaker 2>You can pick your color and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to see a T shirt with

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Aaron Falk cringing because Adam Mikolich just

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed him in the ear drum, ck is wearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Three viewers now we just added two viewers. Check out

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<v Speaker 1>our YouTube page if you'd like. Let's go all right, Chris, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what is the sky falling? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, let's save Utah football for the

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<v Speaker 1>four o'clock out that I like. And let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the lads. Okay, let's start with the It'.

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<v Speaker 2>Still okay because I know it's in a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of like you know, parking the bus, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if we're playing online and we're playing against a

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<v Speaker 2>player that you know is better than you, got to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of play from the back.

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like a personal shot. But anyway, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know Trey's listening. He's crying real tears because we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked to oursl and they play this week, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a whole segment of Utah Football Cam rising at

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<v Speaker 1>the four o'clock hour, and we'll also recap your trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii to hunt for pigs with Trevor Riley. A

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<v Speaker 1>real thing. But as we approach the final match of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, you'll be good with us. Put into context

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<v Speaker 1>what setting a record would mean four points in a season.

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<v Speaker 1>If they get three on Saturday, that's oh wow. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know that it would set a record for

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I still think that we're playing the same amount

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<v Speaker 2>of regular season games as we did around the early

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<v Speaker 2>twenty tens to mid twenty tens when they had really

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<v Speaker 2>good runs, So that obviously you can compare that fairly.

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<v Speaker 2>On one hand, glass half full, despite very lackluster last

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<v Speaker 2>two months, the fact that you can still achieve that

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<v Speaker 2>is impressive. Yea glass half empty. If they don't hit

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<v Speaker 2>the skids in August, September and October, you wonder where

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<v Speaker 2>this team could be. Honestly, like I, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a talking point for the fan base

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, is what was the ultimate ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>of this team before they had to sell Andras Gomas

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you can make an argument that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a potential top two seed, But as good as

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<v Speaker 2>Andras was and as in sync as he was with

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Luna and Chico Rongo, it wasn't really. It was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of masking the defensive deficiencies of this team for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. I mean, we were watching very fun

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth four two, five, three three three games,

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<v Speaker 2>which if you're even a casual soccer fan, you're stoked

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<v Speaker 2>on because there's actual, tangibly cool stuff happening on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>It was as entertaining of a group that potentially I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Here from an attacking standpoint, yeah, yeah, And there will

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<v Speaker 2>always be a what might have been type of deal?

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<v Speaker 2>My bad, there will always be a what type of

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<v Speaker 2>like what could have been? But Andres had to be

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<v Speaker 2>sold because you have to pocket that money. That is

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<v Speaker 2>an insane amount of money. It's a club record, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the highest fees in the history of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think they I don't think they've missed

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<v Speaker 2>the mark with some of these investments. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>always hard to come into this league in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the season as an international player and hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ground running. Look at Diego Gonzalveez, like, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>dude who basically owned Manchester United in a Champions League game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's having trouble finding his spot in the starting eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because he's not a good player or the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong player. It's just that Pablo has to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who his best attacking group is right now, and currently

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<v Speaker 2>it's Diogo coming off the bench, it's Matt Crooks in

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<v Speaker 2>that attacking spot. It's Dominic mark Zuk, who's been very

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<v Speaker 2>good I think since coming over. So a very long

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<v Speaker 2>winded way of saying, if they can achieve the points

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<v Speaker 2>record from a club standpoint, it's a huge accomplishment. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a very odd season that we'll look back

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<v Speaker 2>on for a multitude of reasons, and it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad thing. It's just something that this club has never

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<v Speaker 2>really had to go through before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and you did a good job of unpacking

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<v Speaker 1>it because ultimately it might be the right thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I did feel like there was a chance, and I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Kurt this, I asked Jason this, and I asked

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo this. I felt like there was a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>even though to your point, you can't turn down that

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<v Speaker 1>transfer fee, they were trading the potential for something cool

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<v Speaker 1>now for the long game down the road, which again

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<v Speaker 1>might be the right thing. But in retrospect, did they

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<v Speaker 1>do that or do we still have to wait and see?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we still have to wait and see again,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if Andris is here, if Carlos is here, Carlos

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<v Speaker 2>Andres Gomss is still here. Excuse me, are they still

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<v Speaker 2>winning five three games? Because if you are, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>sustainable in the playoffs. Good point, like we've seen when

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<v Speaker 2>Ursel has had runs under Pablo. They're literally winning games

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<v Speaker 2>where they haven't registered a shot on goal, or if

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone on the road and the only two shots

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<v Speaker 2>on goal that they've registered that those were two goals,

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<v Speaker 2>like against Kansas City a couple of years ago. Like

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<v Speaker 2>things tighten up in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>You you you roll the dice. So to speak in

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<v Speaker 2>selling andris. But there's just no way you could have

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<v Speaker 2>turned that down because the whole point for some clubs

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<v Speaker 2>in this league is to do what ourselves doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just it.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah, and but in I think in oursl's mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I think ideally you're talking about homegrown players who are

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<v Speaker 2>able to fetch that kind of cash eventually. And they've

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<v Speaker 2>had some players here and there be you know, moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately not for any sums of money. Guys that left early. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ricardo Ledesma comes to Richie Ledesma comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Holland and has been a very good player

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<v Speaker 2>over there, Sebastian Soto. But yeah, RSL is a club

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<v Speaker 2>that is towing the fine line of competing for a

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<v Speaker 2>MLS Cup championship while also developing to sell on.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we approach Saturday, there's some interesting stories to

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<v Speaker 1>dig into, and you alluded to this. It appears that

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<v Speaker 1>Zach has his job back. Pablo yesterday said they're going

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<v Speaker 1>game by game, but Zach has had way too many

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<v Speaker 1>gaffes that are so elementary and punitive that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's a permeating nervousness in the fan base if it's Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>but he does have this ability to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more front facing with his communication than Gavin does

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<v Speaker 1>at eighteen what do you do back there? And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear, I always want to be

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<v Speaker 1>fair to keepers. It's never all.

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<v Speaker 2>All the work. Listen, man, I play keeper and indoors

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes and it is the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is the absolute worst because you see every breakdown in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you right right. And yes, there have been some,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, elementary mistakes by both of those players,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is it is an unforgiving position like it

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<v Speaker 2>is not. It can be fun, but it is not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So how much of the late game conceding of goals

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore losing of points is on the keeper situation

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<v Speaker 1>and how much of it is on the groove?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a good question. I think, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at some of these goals that RSL has

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<v Speaker 2>been giving up late in games when they've seen leads disappear,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it is just guys tuning out for

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<v Speaker 2>a split second, guys losing their marks. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it is newer players being thrust into, you know, spots

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<v Speaker 2>on the back line that you know you're you're learning

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<v Speaker 2>on the fly how to communicate with players that you

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<v Speaker 2>might only have known for the last two or three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks or the last two or three months. That stuff

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<v Speaker 2>takes time. I mean again, like, I know, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to always be unfair to compare eras, But the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why you know RSL was once impossible to score on

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<v Speaker 2>was because they had basically the same five guys on

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<v Speaker 2>that back line for like four straight years. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just Nick, which is insane if you think about like

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<v Speaker 2>that just doesn't really happen, and he throw Kyle in

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he did, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's how he basically cut his teeth in the

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<v Speaker 2>see how they look in the playoffs because if they

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<v Speaker 1>So who do you think should be between the pipes?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably go with Zach. It's it kind of goes

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<v Speaker 2>this has to be the last year, like if you're

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<v Speaker 5>We'll get to that in a little bit too early

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<v Speaker 5>of a transition. We'll get to that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's have a little fun here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Pablo yesterday because I asked him, Okay, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore Diego will sit on Wednesday, and then Chico

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<v Speaker 1>will sit on Saturday, et cetera, et cetera. He said

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday he's going to march out the closest thing

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<v Speaker 1>now that he's had a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating Vera.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, come on, dude, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Second year in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's such a horrible look, asked Pablo about

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday. But varis out on Saturday and he misses

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff match.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me, because I'm a terrible follower of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we still in a best of three in the

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<v Speaker 1>Best of three? Okay, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's best of three.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a fact We're gonna a fact check her

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<v Speaker 2>back there, porter.

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<v Speaker 1>Order is our ESPN stats in the FO department. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, the Mickey Mouse League changes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's best of three.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if I hate that I think it's so silly.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey's gonna call in eight seven seven three five three

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<v Speaker 1>zero seven hundred at any moment. I'm pretty sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>best of three. But do you think you can guess

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<v Speaker 1>what the eleven will be on Saturday if we go?

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're asking me, or if I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>Important line of delineation. You are trying to read Pablo's

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<v Speaker 1>mind about what the eleven will look like on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>If this is as close to a first choice as

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<v Speaker 2>See, I'll go Zach and gool U katrona set left

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<v Speaker 2>back Justin because they have no death right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing Philip Quinton next to Justin, and then Andrew Brodie

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<v Speaker 2>it right back midfield obviously a Mecca hada. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is where it gets tricky. I'm reading, I'm reading Pablo's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go Luna, Crooks, Mark Zuke. I know

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<v Speaker 2>this is hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Either Diogo or Chiacho. I know, no, it's Anderson or

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<v Speaker 5>Chico right at the top, run me through your midfield

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<v Speaker 5>the end.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going I'm going at the holding spots and

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<v Speaker 2>then the three in front of them, I'm going Luna Crooks,

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<v Speaker 1>So Crooks instead of Diogo gotcha okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm gonna go cheat Cho. But it but

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<v Speaker 2>it's close. They've looked better, and I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying they know they just have looked better with Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>Julio For the past seven months.

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<v Speaker 2>How have they not? Chicho hasn't scored.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long July seventeen, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>One goal away from breaking Savo's record for how long?

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<v Speaker 2>Four months?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's any shot that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a chance he doesn't break it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Pablo sits Chicho on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're talking about if we're going off of our guy,

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<v Speaker 2>who is who is a Vibes guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a Vibes guy. But results have come this

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<v Speaker 1>year too.

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<v Speaker 2>Results have come. But I'm just saying, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what have you done for me lately? And the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of games. It is so obvious that Chiecho is

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<v Speaker 2>so in his head that I don't know, I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who gives you the best chance to win, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Now are you. Are you going with your superstar striker

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I don't think you're you're asking me

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<v Speaker 2>to read Pablo's mind. If it's me. If it's me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going pure FIFA. Give me the highest overall rated

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<v Speaker 2>players and then let me hit turbo and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, we're on the same page then, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do. And you, okay, do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you think because I can remember I had you on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just a couple of days after

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<v Speaker 1>the suspension was announced, and I remember when I got

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<v Speaker 2>And I.

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<v Speaker 1>You see things like that derail seasons all the time

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<v Speaker 1>in any sport. You think there's still something there with him,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because he has just not well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he got injured right as soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>True, but there was a stretch Chris where if he

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<v Speaker 1>only scored one goal, You're like, what's up with the dude,

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<v Speaker 1>And now he hasn't scored since me.

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<v Speaker 2>He had some he had some telepathic stuff going on

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<v Speaker 2>with Gomez where they were just always always on the

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<v Speaker 2>same page. I mean, I think him moving really really

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<v Speaker 2>hurt Chi. Cho's just connectivity, like I would have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask Trey, But I wonder of those seventeen goals, how

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<v Speaker 2>many were direct assists from from andras.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to our ESPN Stats and Information department for

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<v Speaker 1>an update on the first round of the MLS playoff format.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so first round, of course is as as it

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<v Speaker 4>was last year. Round one, best of three. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>RSL misses the wild card, so that's well where they'll start.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So best of three and home field advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>home pitch advantage as it were. I believe that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Because you know what's interesting, Chris. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>we have RSL taking on Vancouver and then we have

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<v Speaker 2>It's a derby.

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<v Speaker 1>It is RSL and Seattle are still in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>for three, and Vancouver and Portland are trying to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the wildcard, which is a one match elimination, and those

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, man, I think if you're RSL, honestly, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid Houston at all costs. They just have their number.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I think there's I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 2>is tacked, you know, from a tactical standpoint or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've seen different pieces come and go, but here

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<v Speaker 2>or there, Ben Olsen's group has had the best of

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<v Speaker 2>Pablo side. So it looks like it's going to be Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Like, if we're looking at the standing, if.

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<v Speaker 1>It started today five, if RSL wins and Seattle loses,

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<v Speaker 2>Where's that Seattle game?

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle that is in Portland, So oursel's at home, Seattle's

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland. And if RSL moves up to third, they

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<v Speaker 1>could see, as JP would say, the crappits, they hated crappits.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that would be that would be good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>That looks like it's either gonna be Houston or Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Colorado has been much improved. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>I it would be a a monkey off their back,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, if they could draw Houston and eliminate them.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It just has looked real bad the last couple of seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, before we break and we'll do a segment

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<v Speaker 1>on Utah football, b YU football college football coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>HEK has been in the lab. We have now a

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<v Speaker 1>very decent sample size of well Linel Messi looks like

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<v Speaker 1>in MLS and Miami potentially, well, they're going to win

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<v Speaker 1>the Supporter Shield. They're three points and they're also three

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<v Speaker 1>points away from setting an MLS single season record. How

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<v Speaker 1>much of it is messy? How much of it is

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<v Speaker 1>the embarrassment of riches and can anybody beat them in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot, a lot, and yes, a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>is messy.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is messy.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of it is the insane amount of talent

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<v Speaker 2>that they've added, albeit aging talent, and this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to mait their last stop. It's MLS. But listen, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're talking about putting together like thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>arguably the best club team ever. Maybe it's a decade later,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're still talking about or sorry, yeah I'm missing

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<v Speaker 2>one Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez, Sergio Busquetz.

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<v Speaker 1>And Georgia Albo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that is insane, it is, I'm sorry. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they've all managed to stay healthy for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part outside of Messi than when he got

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<v Speaker 2>hurt in Copa America. Like this, that team has been

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<v Speaker 2>as good if not better without him as they have

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<v Speaker 2>been with him. But like in MLS, yes, can they

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<v Speaker 2>be beat? Yes, of course they can be beat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's MLS who last thing, who lives in their cul

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<v Speaker 1>de sac. I mean I don't watch enough. I only

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<v Speaker 1>watch RSL and then I'll check you if Miami's on,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you want to see what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus is in their stratosphere. Anyone out west I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean LA Galaxy have been really good, like they

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<v Speaker 2>finally ditch the superstar chasing mode. They do have Marco

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<v Speaker 2>Royce who just came up. But LAFC. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about the two best teams in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Columbus in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy. Interesting, well, fall soccer is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to mind you guys. Coming up tomorrow, we have

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<v Speaker 1>right here on ESPN seven hundred, Clueless, the Alicia Silverstone movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting clueless vibes with the no Doubt I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>No great song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good shout out, King, it's a good shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Gen X, my generation, the generation that.

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<v Speaker 2>You the best generation?

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<v Speaker 1>You really should you fit the description you. You are

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<v Speaker 1>a millennial trapped in a Gen x ER's body.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that wholeheartedly, and I'm sad that I am

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<v Speaker 2>part of what I can argue is not the best generation.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, we move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and nobody wants my take gone it. It's well documented.

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<v Speaker 2>They just gen X sounds cooler. It's like if you

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<v Speaker 2>when you say millennial does not sound cool, well and

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z sounds cooler. It is cooler, yes, millennials. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't have to you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that thing today. There's a certain age

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<v Speaker 2>right now that I'm having a tough time with in life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's just going to move on from

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, all right, Chris? Since you and I

460
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<v Speaker 1>last spoke, uh, the news became official that Cameron Rising

461
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<v Speaker 1>is done for the year. Yeah, second straight season. You

462
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<v Speaker 1>had very unique access to Cam and his family for

463
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<v Speaker 1>the piece you wrote that I've sent people to over

464
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<v Speaker 1>and over and over. There is still this faction of

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<v Speaker 1>our community that, you know, he's a sandbagger, he got paid,

466
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<v Speaker 1>he should be playing. I don't know how much attention

467
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<v Speaker 1>I want to give that faction of our community, but

468
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<v Speaker 1>they do exist, and the money thing does.

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<v Speaker 2>Can the players see it, which is unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, No. I've been talking about that. Every time

471
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<v Speaker 1>I hear a coach say, well, I'm not on social media,

472
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<v Speaker 1>I say, well, guess what your players are, right, So

473
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<v Speaker 1>let's just big picture where you are with this entire thing,

474
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<v Speaker 1>second year in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Brutal development. I can't remember the last time a local

476
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<v Speaker 2>player had as many high highs and low you know,

477
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<v Speaker 2>personal lows from an injury standpoint, like we don't. I

478
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<v Speaker 2>guess Taysom is like would be a close like analogy,

479
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<v Speaker 2>but Tasom never led them to COMPU championships. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not wrong, but like I'm just yeah, it's unfortunate.

481
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he shouldn't have been out there, like clearly

482
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<v Speaker 2>it did not look right, and we can relitigate that

483
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<v Speaker 2>till the cows come home. But he's done for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And my assumptions would be that the two sides, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hug each other, give each other thanks and say we

486
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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of cool stuff, but it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>part ways. That is just an assumption on my part,

488
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<v Speaker 2>and I think that would be best for both parties involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you there, and that obviously has been

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<v Speaker 1>a topic on the show. Eric Weddle was on on

491
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<v Speaker 1>Monday and I asked him straight up his thoughts on

492
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<v Speaker 1>cam coming back for an eighth year, and you can

493
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<v Speaker 1>go listen to it. I don't want to speak for him.

494
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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't taking a shot at Cam. He echoed what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said. Probably best for everybody to kind of

496
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<v Speaker 1>go their separate ways. I do have to say I

497
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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't blame Cam if he did it, Like, if the

498
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<v Speaker 1>nil money is still there, he's not I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So but if it's even there for a couple hundred grand, come,

500
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<v Speaker 1>you know, be on the sideline and help Isaac Wilson

501
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<v Speaker 1>as a quasi backup. I don't know. I'm just thinking

502
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<v Speaker 1>out loud because what's Cam going to do next year

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't play football? Gordon joined us earlier. He

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<v Speaker 1>made a good point, like he's got a good community

505
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<v Speaker 1>if he's got an agent and he's made a little money.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these guys, like X BYU players latch

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<v Speaker 1>onto the bro companies down south to make a lot

508
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<v Speaker 1>of money. They work down there, and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>community you have as a collegiate athlete where you're not

510
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<v Speaker 1>going to go be the assistant manager at Shields. But

511
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<v Speaker 1>what does he do next year if he doesn't play football?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you blame him if he came back?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I wouldn't blame him if he came back.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean he has to make a business decision

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, Like he's made a lot of money,

516
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<v Speaker 2>he's been very successful. Does it make sense for him

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<v Speaker 2>to if he doesn't come back to Utah, does he

518
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<v Speaker 2>want to pursue going somewhere else? And what does that

519
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<v Speaker 2>market look like? I mean, because at this point, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't we don't know what the severity of the injury

521
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<v Speaker 2>is and how long he's going to be out. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when Kyle says he's out for the rest of

523
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<v Speaker 2>the year, we're talking six games, which is basically two months,

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<v Speaker 2>So I would assume it's nothing serious. We haven't heard otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>But Cam has made it very clear to me. His

526
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<v Speaker 2>folks have made it very clear to me that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to give the NFL a shot. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not comparing the two before people before the two

529
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<v Speaker 2>people watching on YouTube go nuts five. Who would have

530
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<v Speaker 2>thought that Taysom Hill would become a very good NFL player?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally different skill set. I get it, But I'm just saying,

532
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<v Speaker 2>like you're talking about a guy who had like the

533
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<v Speaker 2>same awful injury three years in a row, and all

534
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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden became like a very reliable, unique Swiss

535
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<v Speaker 2>Army knife healthy player in the NFL. So Cam ran

536
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<v Speaker 2>into about of really crappy luck man, like that is

537
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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line, Like you can't really turn it or

538
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<v Speaker 2>twist it any other way. The knee injury was lingering

539
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<v Speaker 2>two years ago. You know, he heard it in that

540
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<v Speaker 2>crazy USC game and it prolonged and eventually exploded. That's

541
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<v Speaker 2>a that's a very big, unfortunate reality. The hand thing

542
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<v Speaker 2>you never see happen, especially to your throwing hand, you know,

543
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<v Speaker 2>being shoved into a gatorade station and got rolled up

544
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<v Speaker 2>on it is what it is again, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be that guy who sounds like a broken record.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't be mad at football player for getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me follow up and I'll just ask you straight up,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of what you just said, what's your reaction to

549
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<v Speaker 1>the portion of the community that I perceive to be

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<v Speaker 1>real Because it's not just cowards that want to be

551
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<v Speaker 1>brave online. I've hurt real people who I know say

552
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<v Speaker 1>out loud that they're out on camp, like just out

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<v Speaker 1>on them, just over it.

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<v Speaker 2>To that, I would say the term fan is short

555
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<v Speaker 2>for fanatic, and that is a very fanatic approach to

556
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<v Speaker 2>an existence that people have poured a lot of energy

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<v Speaker 2>and time and money into But I'll tell you one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>In this day and age, people can pay attention to

559
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<v Speaker 2>how fan bases treat their players. And if you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a place that has historically struggled to recruit and

561
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<v Speaker 2>retain quarterbacks, if you're having their fan base turn on

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best to ever do, it not a

563
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<v Speaker 2>great look. That's just the reality. It's not a great look.

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<v Speaker 1>They did lose a big time commit today as well,

565
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<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman from Spanish Fork decommitted. He was one

566
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<v Speaker 1>of the best players they had in the class coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not drawing a straight line, but you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, is there any part of

569
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<v Speaker 1>the entire dynamic that it's fair to be frustrated with?

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<v Speaker 2>You can be well, if you're asking me, my opinion

571
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<v Speaker 2>is you can be frustrated with the way Utah handled

572
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<v Speaker 2>the injury quote unquote reports the situation mainly last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this year people understood saw the writing on

574
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<v Speaker 2>the wall, realized kind of what was taking place. But again,

575
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<v Speaker 2>Kyle doesn't care. He doesn't you're talking about like I mean,

576
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<v Speaker 2>is Kyle the most powerful like non politician in this

577
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<v Speaker 2>state probably honestly, Like he's a guy that could walk

578
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<v Speaker 2>into most house and everybody would just be like, here,

579
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<v Speaker 2>let me make something for you, please.

580
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<v Speaker 1>My guy Ryan might have a little power these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I guess, like, yeah, I guess I'm saying like

582
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<v Speaker 2>a player athlete from a player coach athlete point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they fans can be frustrated with that. I

584
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<v Speaker 2>do think we had an unfortunate bubbling to the surface

585
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>of people believing that this team was going to go

586
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<v Speaker 2>undefeated in the Big Twelve and that they were better

587
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<v Speaker 2>than everybody else and kind of drinking the kool aid,

588
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>which is an overuseed cliche. But this team has a

589
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<v Speaker 2>lot of flaws and they have a lot of injuries.

590
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, teams also have other injuries across the country.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Other teams have injuries across the country. They just have

592
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<v Speaker 2>better depth. And that's just the reality. We've talked about

593
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<v Speaker 2>this ad nauseum.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban feeded teams. Two of his national championship teams

595
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<v Speaker 1>went undefeated in his entire run, Like even the best,

596
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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen very often. I don't think I ever

597
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<v Speaker 1>thought they were in that stratosphere potentially running the table.

598
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<v Speaker 1>But I did think they'd have something to say about

599
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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve championship. Oh yeah, every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if Cam stays healthy. Listen, Cam looked like his

601
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<v Speaker 2>old self the first game and a half until he

602
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<v Speaker 2>got hurt again, two different injuries. I'm sorry it happens,

603
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<v Speaker 2>but eventually you got to turn the page. It is

604
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<v Speaker 2>a cutthroat, unforgiving business for a player in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>You can be a superstar, millionaire nil quarterback one day

606
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<v Speaker 2>and then you get hurt, and then you have to

607
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<v Speaker 2>figure out what's next. Unfortunately, for Cam that's where he's.

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<v Speaker 1>At and it is time to turn the page. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I came prepared, Listen, I know I'm prepared. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>where do you want to start offense or defense?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with the dynamic on Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>where TCU is not great against the run. Okay, there,

614
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<v Speaker 1>I think one hundred and sixteenth in the country the run,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't put everything on the shoulders of your

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<v Speaker 1>freshman quarterback. I think we see Andy Ludwig and this

617
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<v Speaker 1>entire approach go old school entirely. You got to start

618
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<v Speaker 1>winning the line of scrimmage again, You've got to be

619
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<v Speaker 1>better against the run. And I think we're gonna see

620
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<v Speaker 1>a healthy dose in Mackai Bernard and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do everything they can to surround Isaac with healthy

622
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<v Speaker 1>needs instead of making him be cammed from two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a game that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get because TCU doesn't stop the run. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a healthy dose of the Utah run game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, stats, bring it came, came prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Total offense right now in the country fifty eighth. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Utah Utah rushing offense fifty sixth, which is lower

630
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<v Speaker 2>than I thought because McKay has been good. Yeah, but

631
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<v Speaker 2>he's really been the only like there isn't.

632
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Really he's a best player on the team. Yeah.

633
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Passing offense sixty sixth, only ten spots behind the rushing

634
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 2>running defense, First downs tied for seventy seconds, scoring offense

635
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>eighty four, red zone offense eighty ninth. And this is

636
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 2>the craziest part to me. Time of possession second in

637
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>the country. So Utah has the second best time of

638
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 2>possession in the country, but they have not been able

639
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to cash in no matter who's at quarterback. That is

640
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a huge problem considering the weapons that they have. And

641
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I understand fans have been frustrated with the offensive play

642
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>calls and the schemes and whatnot. And there have been

643
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>some very head scratching calls, you know, second and ten

644
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>wildcat to brand Keithy, where you obviously know what's going

645
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>to happen. That kind of stuff in the red zone.

646
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work. But Andy and his staff have to

647
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to Taylor an offense that fits

648
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>who they have. And right now, they have Mackay Bernard,

649
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>they have Dorian Singer, Bran Keithy's looked okay, and they,

650
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to your point, they have to make Isaac Wilson look

651
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>comfortable because I think if you're talking about that Arizona,

652
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>like we talked about it, if you kick field goals

653
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>there and don't go for it twice on fourth and goal,

654
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you probably have a little bit of confidence. If you're Isaac,

655
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 2>like you're bummed that you didn't get into the end zone,

656
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 2>but shoot, it's still six zero or seven to six.

657
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>That matters for young players. And like Andy, this isn't

658
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Andy's first rodeo. He's done it a bunch of schools.

659
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 2>He's done it here with a bunch of different quarterbacks.

660
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>But it is odd considering the personnel that they have

661
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>at their disposal. I mean, most of the injuries have

662
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>come on the defensive side of the ball. Outside of camp, right,

663
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like yeah, I mean they're they're wide receivers

664
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>of stayed healthy, brand has stayed healthy. Everybody's obsessed with

665
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the amount of tight ends that they have, Like you know,

666
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Cale Blowner had a good game against somebody

667
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago. Red zone threat, red zone threat,

668
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:54.119
<v Speaker 2>six to seven, throw it up. But I don't want

669
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to say it's all on the offense, man, it's because

670
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 2>the entire team. Listen, Utah has not looked good and

671
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>game this year. They have not looked good in one game.

672
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>We're six games in and I was looking at this

673
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 2>up the other day. When was the last time Utah

674
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 2>beat a good team? In your mind?

675
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Off the top, I'll go USC a year ago, who

676
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>was not a great team.

677
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Two years ago, SC that's the twelve champion.

678
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 1>That's the last time they beat a good team. Yep.

679
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 2>And the only other time they beat a good team

680
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that year was the previous time they'd beat USC in

681
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the crazy Cam game here and Dalton kincaide game. Utah

682
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>has not played well like and I understand. Listen, the

683
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>injuries to the most important position on the field will

684
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 2>derail lots of people, of course, but this team has

685
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>failed to meet expectations that I think a lot of

686
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>people have, unfortunately and unfairly to them, blowed it up

687
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>in recent years.

688
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you think Saturday Night is something that will manifest

689
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>itself as a get right type situation If they see it,

690
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>they get healthy.

691
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Gotta see it. I'm not going to believe it till

692
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I see. I mean, the vibes are not good, man,

693
00:33:58.799 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>They do not look good.

694
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 1>They're not turning the other team over. They lost the

695
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>turnover battle the past couple of games. Want some stats,

696
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>bring it, bring it. I will say this before you

697
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>levy your stats on me. I do think the rushing

698
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 1>defense numbers are a little bit cloudy right now because

699
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple of big runs from the Skataboo kid like

700
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight to forty eight. Look, you can't let that happen, correct,

701
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately I think if they can get Karenne back

702
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and Conner back, and I still think defensively, they're going

703
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to be fine stopping the run.

704
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 2>But if you're Utah, if you're Utah, if you are

705
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the program that is known locally and nationally to be

706
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a quote unquote badass defense every year, are two players

707
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>really going to make that much of a difference.

708
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't be They shouldn't be exactly.

709
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, rushing defense forty second in the country, which

710
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 2>is not where Utah is used to be. And you know,

711
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>piggybacking off your point against Skataboo, against Arizona, those kids

712
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 2>were running like eight or nine yards every single touch.

713
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Open lanes for sure.

714
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Turnovers tied for fifty ninth in the country, which is

715
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>very not not like Utah, And this was the craziest

716
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>one to meet. Red zone defense tied for ninety six.

717
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 2>The opposing team scores on ninety percent of the time

718
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 2>they get.

719
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Into ooh not good, not good, not good.

720
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>So again, like, while people are pissed that Cam got hurt,

721
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 2>while they're pissed about the offensive red zone numbers, this

722
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is not on one player or one group. The entire

723
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>team has failed to meet expectations. And that's okay. Yeah,

724
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>but again, like maybe we were too not locally and nationally.

725
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe people were lazy, Maybe people were like up cam

726
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Riising's coming back. He hasn't played in a year and

727
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:39.559
<v Speaker 2>a half, but he's going to be the same guy

728
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that he was. Brand Keith he hasn't played in two years. Oh,

729
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be the same guy that he was.

730
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Kai Bernard out for a year. He's looked good, but

731
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>like these were huge questions around a team that had

732
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions going in regardless.

733
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kyle's built a bit of a benefit of the

734
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>doubt situation. Absolutely, there's no doubt. It's a good point.

735
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>A few minutes left before set you loose. The team

736
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that is using the Utah ethos to win games is

737
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>forty miles down south Man because they're turning the other

738
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 1>team over. They won the turnover battle every single game. Statistically,

739
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>their defensive numbers not just better this year, far better.

740
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't get to the quarterback last year. They didn't

741
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 1>make very many transfer portal additions. They just relied on

742
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>continuity and giving Jay Hill another year. And you know,

743
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I even heard Jay Hill say four and a score,

744
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that's an old John PA's Utah saying like they are

745
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>using the model the Utah wants to be using, and

746
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it much better than Utah is forty miles

747
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to that so south the year.

748
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 2>How many people on that staff were on Kyle staff

749
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 2>at one point.

750
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Except Papinga Probably I really like you can go down

751
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the list.

752
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, to your point, they are not losing the

753
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>turnover battle. They don't have like a standout offensive player.

754
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>They have seventeen different players who've scored touchdowns. Isn't that mind.

755
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Blowing there you go, I mean they've played like eight

756
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 2>running backs. They do have really good receivers. I mean,

757
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll give that. I mean, like, but they don't have

758
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 2>a you know, a McMillan kid. Like they have a

759
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 2>bunch of really good receivers. And you know, Jake Reetzlof

760
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.599
<v Speaker 2>has made some boneheaded plays in the past, but he

761
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 2>looks really good man, like Aaron Roderick knows what he's doing,

762
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Like he knew what he was doing here, he knew

763
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>knows what he's doing down there. But to your point

764
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>about the defense, like they didn't go out and make

765
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>wholesale changes. They got really good in the linebacker room,

766
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 2>and some of those were portal ads. The Tiger Kid

767
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>came from Oregon. Jack Kelly came from Weber State. I

768
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Glasker was a transfer or not, but

769
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>he's a local kid who's been really good. I mean, like,

770
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>BYU has the best linebacker corp in the Big twelve.

771
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>It's not even close.

772
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy to say, but you're not wrong.

773
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So like, to me, the most interesting part of this

774
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>whole start is if you're comparing, like you can make

775
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a comparison almost like Utah fans have been so spoiled

776
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 2>with the success of the last twenty years. BYU fans

777
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>have been spoiled from the previous success of the Lovelle

778
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Edwards regime that like, coming into the season, people were

779
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>saying Kilani was on the hot seat Spence like like

780
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>that stuff to me is one it's silly because it's BYU.

781
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>There are only two coaches out there, in my opinion,

782
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>in the in the NFL and college football realm, who

783
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>would be considered upgrades to Colonie Sataki.

784
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 5>Right now, you want to name him Andy Reid Kyle Whittingham.

785
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, like people who.

786
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Think that like there would there was going to be

787
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a better direction for the program to go live in

788
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>a unfortunate reality and don't understand the the difficulties of

789
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 2>recruiting and retaining talent at BYU. So the fact that

790
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Kilanie has been able to do this, albeit there have

791
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>been some some down years, you know last year in

792
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve or sure one. It's tough, but they

793
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 2>weren't their doors blown off them every week like they

794
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>lost some brutal games. The Okay State game. You know

795
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 2>they were talking about this week time. Yea insane like

796
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 2>listen BYU fans should be throwing a party every single

797
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>weekend knowing that they have Kalani Sataki as their head

798
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>coach because it is probably the most difficult place to

799
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>recruit and retain players at the P four level in

800
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the country.

801
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you. Have you ever tried a

802
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>cougar tail?

803
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I have not.

804
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 1>You're kind of anti sugar though it's.

805
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Not that I'm anti sugar. I just feel like I'm

806
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 2>just gonna get a migraine.

807
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have beer or milk poured on you? Oh?

808
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question both same time.

809
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 1>At the same time. If you want to party, all right,

810
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. You know you're old enough

811
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to know, like Lavelle was like twenty one and two

812
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>against Utah. Right now, there's a generation under Kyle of

813
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Utah football dominance over BYU. It's a full generation.

814
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about like your son's age, where they like

815
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>just showed up and they're like, oh, we're gonna win.

816
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And when I was growing up,

817
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 1>he was the exact opposite. If the games were close,

818
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>it was a miracle. Utah very rarely won those games.

819
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And for you fans of a certain age, namely mine

820
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a little bit older, there's kind of this

821
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>permeating nervousness that the pendulum is shaking beneath their feet. Yeah,

822
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>because look, if you were a diehard youth fan, the

823
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Lavelle years were painful. You never won, you never had

824
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a chance. Oftentimes you were insignificant. And then Ronnie Mack

825
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>takes over and evens the playing field a bit. And

826
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>then since Urban and Kyle, it's been all Utah. Do

827
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you think we're seeing the beginning of a moment. I

828
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be hyperbolic or a prisoner of the moment,

829
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but could this be the start of the next BYU generation?

830
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I would have to see BYU put together a few

831
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 2>really good seasons in a row. I mean, I think

832
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like Colonne and his staff have had a couple of

833
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 2>good seasons and then a bad season, A couple of

834
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>good seasons and then a bad season. We'll see how

835
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>this finishes, and we'll see how they look next year.

836
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about a lot of mitigating factors involved in this, too,

837
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that BYU went independent and basically could

838
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>not recruit to the same level as their art rival.

839
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about moving from one head coach that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>very widely liked in Bronco Mendenhall to a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>has very widely liked in Kaloni Saitaki. And you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the ultimate equalizer. Was the guy who's coaching Utah

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<v Speaker 2>used to play at BYU played for a little Bell

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<v Speaker 2>said no, it was Alma mater and really likes beating them.

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<v Speaker 2>So like Utah going to the PAC twelve and BYU

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<v Speaker 2>going independent, I mean this that topic has been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>relitigated ad nauseum for decades on local radio. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to see BYU string together a couple good seasons

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<v Speaker 2>in a row and simultaneously see if Utah doesn't fall

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<v Speaker 2>off the map. But if they're going seven and five,

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<v Speaker 2>six and six, the way they were early on in

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<v Speaker 2>the PAC twelve, then we can have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Wit retires, Kilani has a rough couple of years. Uh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Morgan has a rough couple of years. Utah

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<v Speaker 1>hires Kilani, and by U talks coach Wit out of retirement.

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<v Speaker 1>See what I did. That's called sports radio black magic

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<v Speaker 1>right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that my wife like teases men in general

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<v Speaker 2>by saying, like, you can't be mad at people for

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<v Speaker 2>liking reality TV because sports is the ultimate like version

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<v Speaker 2>of drama and reality TV. With the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 2>that's even thrown out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, without the negative influences.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's no negative influences in sports.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few, but it's not permeating throughout society and culture. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always said, and you know, like old school WWE wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the soap operas for men. Oh absolutely, did

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the Vincement mcmandals even started it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty compelling. That's one thing I can actually tell

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<v Speaker 1>you they did. Okay, that's one thing I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to watch that you haven't watched yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's that's good. I want I want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it because I'm sure they went to Stone Ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, they did. It's right. What else you got

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<v Speaker 1>for me as far as what I can watch right now? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing good man. Honestly, we are not watching any new shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Lose Clues and is that still a thing for the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Lose Clues?

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<v Speaker 1>No, too bad? Yeah, all right man, great to see. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>Right there, he is Ryan from the Dish Bros.