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Speaker 4: Let's Talk Pets on Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome Cynthia Murray. She

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is the founder of four Legs, which is quite a

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unique company, as is Cynthia herself. Welcome Cynthia.

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Speaker 5: Hi, thank you for going back for having me on here.

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Speaker 2: Mr Chall, I'm so excited to have you on the show.

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So tell everybody a little bit about yourself and then

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how you came to find four legs our.

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Speaker 5: Born deaf, I was the twin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: At the time, my parents didn't even know I was deaf.

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Speaker 6: I was definitely born deaf because a lot of doctors

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were said, if one twin talking or following, or just

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the twin, you know, because one will talk and one wrote.

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But I discovered when I was four, there's some test

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in the beta.

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Speaker 5: I was completely deaf, and I.

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Speaker 6: Was sort of like, oh, the eye opener for my parents.

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Speaker 5: My twin sister did all the talking for him. I

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were cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a helper. But I think you speak

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very well, and I think amazing because not everybody knows

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that when children are young, that's how they learned to

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speak by hearing everything around them, by not hearing. I'm

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getting goosebumps talking about them. By not hearing. It's a

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very huge challenge.

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Speaker 6: Was yeah, because my parents were told, oh, when I

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discovered our adaptive said, oh, your daughter is never gonna

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finish school. She's gonna never gonna live on her own,

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never have a job, never be able to live my

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parents that know that can't happen with my daughter. And

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so they really put me and they made me so

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independent and make it so I could achieve all of

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that among everything else. And now I'm running a company.

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So yeah, what's right? You show them?

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, not only did you do all those things,

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you're an entrepreneur. So yes, that's amazing. So four Legs

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is also unique because you give back to the community

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in that you hire, train, and educate adults and children

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in the community that are deaf, part of hearing, artistic,

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and possibly disabled in other ways. So that's a challenge

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too in running a company. What made you decide to

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make your company like that to give back to so

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many that wouldn't ordinarily find jobs or have something to

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fulfill themselves.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So when I started going out into the workforce, I

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noticed it was very difficult to find jobs. And so

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I've ended up being a educator for twenty one years

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because I've struggled. When I was in school, I didn't

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have it interrepreter, it's all I want to call it.

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And we were like, oh my god. When I were

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fine and it That's what they said. All they knew

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that I was I loved with missing. I just didn't

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know how much I was missing.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to become a par educator to educate parents

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and their children and so they can get up be

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able to achieve, just like I didn't. I didn't want

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them to fall back. And so I also saw the

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lack of jobs from what they graduate from high school,

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all the autism, no diversity, down syndrome, learning disability, they

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have a hard time finding work as soon as they

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graduate from high school. So this is why I started

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their company, not because I loved dogs and cats. I

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loved my pet and I wanted to combine both of

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my past and the drive to help other disabilities and

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other minorities.

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Speaker 5: So by combining that that why did not get back

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to the community.

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Speaker 6: And we also partner up with several different nonprofit organizations

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like morning Side. It doesn't co op the school the

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threat to have the stability to come into our workplace

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to get one on one train and so they have

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something on their resume, and that's really important to have

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because nobody else is really doing that in our community.

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Speaker 2: So no, I Abloige you for that because there is

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not enough of that. And when you have an entire

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company comprised of mostly of people with disabilities, it's definitely

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a challenge. You would think people would be more accepting

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and more opening, Yes, open to you know, it's a

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little more training, a little more patience. But just because

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you have you know, a disability or a handicap or

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a blind handicap, it doesn't mean you cannot you know,

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do things sometimes a lot better than people that have

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no issues. They're fine. So let's talk about four legs.

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Why did you start four legs?

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Speaker 6: I had a service dog, he would have started about

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service dog and he would have loaded to a lot

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of the food that was out there if I wanted

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to find something that were deod for dogs, so I

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did a lot of research. I wanted to make sure

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we had inguidion that had no preservative, no sugar or salt,

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and they're all human grade and ingudient instead of feed.

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Speaker 5: Though there different bet when dog tweet.

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Speaker 6: That have feed inguidient and dog that have human grades,

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so we wanted to go with the human grade.

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Speaker 5: And yes we're on a high end with our dog.

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Speaker 6: Other ingredient that's really expensive we boy the organic pumpkin,

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pay organic two potato, organic blueberry to put in our

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products and our flower or organic. So we wanted to

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miss that everything that we put.

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Speaker 5: In in our product guilt for dogs.

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Speaker 2: So it's very transparent. Why is it so important that

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we need to watch what we give our dogs and

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make sure that the ingredients are, you know, as natural

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as possible. Human grade Because for some people it's like, well,

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I don't know what to do. I mean, should I

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buy just regular treats or should I really go for

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more human grade? Because definitely, because there are no fillers.

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Human grade is usually a little more expensive, but generally,

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I know, ultimately healthier for your dog. What can we

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tell our listeners that are like, well, you know, I

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could buy one treat it's this much and other treats

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a little more. What's the benefit for your dog?

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Speaker 6: I think it's a huge brand a fair because I

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think if you're buying a cheap dog, you're gonna allow

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your dog to get sick. They're gonna have all these

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alo dudes and sort of lifespan. And it's funny because

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I find that people care for their pets more than

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they do themselves.

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Speaker 5: Because I really think that.

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Speaker 6: I always look at ingodis what I'm eating too.

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure I'm eating good too.

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Speaker 6: There is a lot of junk food out there, and

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it's so easy to grab, and it's like I have

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all this definite that we shouldn't be eating.

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Speaker 5: And that's how I feel. A lot of our customers

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feel the same way.

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Speaker 6: They want to give the dog the bath. And when

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you buy our tree, you're gonna smell it and smells

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so good, and we even eat it here because we

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have to test it anyway.

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Speaker 5: But it really does taste good.

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Speaker 6: And what we do to keep the preservative is to

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do fired.

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Speaker 2: Out, so it's human grade, so generally human grade, it's

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safe for humans, but it's tasty for us because the

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salt and the sugar's not there. But yours is even

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good for people. They people find it palatable, taste.

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Speaker 5: Out it if but we're not pushed out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we won't push that dogs.

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Speaker 5: He both for dogs.

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Speaker 6: People laugh at it because you know we're taking it.

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Oh dah, it's good. It's light out, you know and

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all that, So yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Let your dogs. There's plenty of other treetes out there

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for you. Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll

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be right back. Molly, here's your dinner. See that's not

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your food.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk past, let's done, pet Headline.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. We're talking to Cynthia Murphy. She is

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the founder of four Legs and four Legs was created

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by Cynthia, who is a death entrepreneur for heard special assistance. Well,

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how would I say that's your special assistance.

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Speaker 5: Service dog service dog.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the here and dog open your service dog, oh

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d yes, okay. So the let's also talk about the

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ingredients because when I was doing my research on your website,

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the ingredients are local. I mean they're not necessarily local

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to where your your businesses, but they're all US based.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all you A based.

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Speaker 6: And we like to support the local arm and small

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businesses in the area.

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Speaker 5: I mean we're talking, we're watching today.

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Speaker 6: We have a lot in Oregon, Utah, California and Montana

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that we buy a product from and it's really put

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in a support the all the small and we also

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have to mess there that the US the airproof and

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after approved too before we can posit the stuff.

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Speaker 2: And that's wonderful. So what dogs do you have? What

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service dog do you have?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: I don't have a service dog now.

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Speaker 6: After the only pathed away, I decided that because when

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you have a service dog, you can only have one dog,

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no other pet. Oh, because I love pets on out

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already really opened up my eyes.

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Speaker 5: So I decided to rescue. Only want the rescue too.

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Speaker 6: By the way, when the tournament to Service Dog down

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a dog for the death is now called Dog for

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Better Life. Yeah, they're missing if to rescue cell to

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dogs and tournament to CULTI fide here and dog and

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after that the great program we support them and yeah,

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so I decided to rub the other dog and they

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became my support dog. They knew how to allow me

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to sound. I just couldn't taken places like a true

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service dog, and I was okay with that. We love

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to go camping and all that. So I've had several

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dogs over the years.

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Speaker 5: And then I ended up rescuing a death dog. He

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couldn't hear wow.

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Speaker 6: And I had to dog already, and I thought, you

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know what would happen if I actually rug with their

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staff dog couldn't find a home and he was then Virginia.

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Speaker 5: So I had him blown all the way Wow, so

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class the US and it was great. He fed in.

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Speaker 6: He didn't even know he was different from the rest

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of them. I think they couldn't hear it. So I

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Speaker 2: Wait, I understand sign language, Yes, well sign language not

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just like dog language like stay and everything. He knew

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other sign language too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they dog had every there, but he knew a

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was so smart he was.

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tease him how to use the dog it door to

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come in and out of the house.

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Speaker 5: And it was so cute to see him do it.

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Speaker 6: So I had him and I had a one of

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Marosky pathway.

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Speaker 5: I don't know it.

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Speaker 6: So we thought, you know what, we rest do another dog. Yeah,

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so we rested another deaf dog. Oh, we have two

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deaf dogs along with Auburn, the hearing dog, and.

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Speaker 2: But right now we have all three.

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Speaker 5: I had all three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what is their favorite four legs tree?

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Speaker 5: What that boy?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: You know what the boy? That's true? Now, okay, the

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favorite the peanut butter malasses.

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Speaker 6: Of course we call kitty Okay, you know how dogs

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like to do The cat likes to do business in

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their kitty box and the dogs love to eat it

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after they go through. Well, we made a better alternative

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and absolutely is acustic. And they aren't one of the

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blueberry pancakes because they have a lot of blueberry and

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it also have malasses like a syrup and that's becoming

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popular as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's their favorite.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if everybody knows this, but

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pumpkin and sweet potato and there's probably more of the

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ingredients that you use are actually beneficial to a dog's

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digestive system.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: So not only are your feets made with healthy ingredients,

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they're beneficial for your burbabes because it helps their digestive system.

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That does a lot of that will say sometimes rather

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than going with you know, medicine and all this stuff,

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give them an organic pumpkin exactly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, those are baby as well because they're awful small.

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So a lot of people like to buy the pumpkin

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and a tweet potato. Could they can go with any

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type of dog that we have. If I know, big fruit,

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we can break them easily build onto the smaller boots.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to tell you where you can buy

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four legs treats. But first, Cynthia also wrote a book

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called For the Love of Dogs? What is your book about?

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Speaker 6: The book about my grown up and why I started

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their company. And I wanted to sell everybody because there's

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so many dog treat company dot there and I wanted

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to sell them. Why we did the what the purpose

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that dot? In the copet and so by some the

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history of my pack and it comes all the way

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up to the where we're at now. So because I've

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always had the entrepreneurial spirit working and finding ways to

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make money when I was the kid and my neighbor's

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next door, we always try to find ways.

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Speaker 5: To help you earn money doing lives in that.

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Speaker 6: And so this is a great story of telling how

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I right to this moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you wrote it, and I'm glad you were

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able to you know, learn about your journey. You also

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partnership with Death Dogs Rock. Yes, so what is Death

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Dog's Rock.

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Speaker 6: Death Dog Rock is an organizations that goes out and

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rucked you all the dogs that are death and they

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were recorded. They would other state to try to find

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recue that will take them and find home for them.

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And so continually if the if the person who run

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the organization without help and Quip and that's how I

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found Dogo, you know. So that's how I blew him

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up from poutin here. And she's also the one who

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told me about Chip Chocolate Chip. He is the chocolate

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lab if, which is very unusual. They have a chocolate

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lab that is death and so we rough toed him

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as all.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. There's there's certain breeds that deafness is more proponent.

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What are there some of those breeds.

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Speaker 6: Yes, some of the blue door, the white boxtars and

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that what dog it was, and we'll talk about the merchant,

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the blue Helo.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of heloes that are borned up too.

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So it just a lot of the white dogs that

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you see out there.

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Speaker 6: If they have blue eyed or brown eyes, they turn

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to have death not as well.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Interesting, Okay, Cynthia, it's been so wonderful having you

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on Best Bets for Pets. I want to make sure

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we can tell people where to buy four Legs treats

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and also about your website listeners. This is a great

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way to give back and get some yengy treats for

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your dog. So where can we buy four Legs treats?

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Speaker 6: You can buy it on our website and you can

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also go on Amazon and find us on amadon under

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a boileg. But there's at the end and we have

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a variety of tweets. We have our book on the wall.

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If you want to buy a book, they's tifically our

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website and if you're on TikTok or Facebook.

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Speaker 5: You'll find it there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so everyone, it's four Legs dot com and it's

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digit four Legs with a Z dot com. And as

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always on the we have a page on our website

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for this podcast the show, and you can find out

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more about the product there and there'll also be a

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link to the website. Cynthia, thank you so much for

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coming on Best Bets for Pets.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my honor. I hope you all enjoyed the show.

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I really love talking to Cynthia Murray. Be sure to

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check out her site and her treats delicious treats for

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your dogs four Legs dot com. Thank you to my

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testers Chloe and Tillie. They love their four Legs treats,

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so thank you. Thank you to my listeners for listening

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to Best Buns for Pets for all of these years.

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Thank you so much for your loyalty, and of course

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thank you to my crew who wishes they could have

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had four Legs treats, but they're just for dogs for now. Dennis, Charlotte, Molly,

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A huge thank you to my producer Mark Winter, who

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works his magic and every show and just makes us

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sound amazing. And remember keep listening. You never know what

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we'll have next. I'm Best Bets for pets.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk bets every week on demand only on petlight

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