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Speaker 1: It's extra special because we get the return of proudly
Speaker 1: representing Ohio's second District Congressman David tayl Or. Good to
Speaker 1: have you back, Dave. That's a giant chunk of land,
Speaker 1: that second district, and we thank everyone in the second
Speaker 1: District for putting you in office. It's good to have
Speaker 1: you back on the morning show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. It's not about the prettiest part of Ohio.
Speaker 2: We're glad to represent it.
Speaker 1: I know you're proud of it, and I will get
Speaker 1: I will let you know. Brig him account from the
Speaker 1: Hudsonents too, was just in the show for the last
Speaker 1: hour talking about energy policy and his economic meeting in
Speaker 1: Europe that he attended. On his way out, he said, oh,
Speaker 1: David Taylor is going to be on. He's a great guy.
Speaker 1: I really think the world of him. So if Brigha
Speaker 1: McCowan likes you, I think that's a rubber stamp of approval.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that. I appreciate that. I'm saying
Speaker 2: that the hard work they do well.
Speaker 1: You voted in favor of the one, Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 1: I do not like the name of it, but I
Speaker 1: like a lot about what's in it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the the Thomas Massey Ran Paul
Speaker 1: side of the equation about the deficit hole we keep
Speaker 1: digging ourselves in. It looks like there's no end in sight.
Speaker 1: But despite that, there are some really good things in it.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats is screaming and yelling, mostly about the
Speaker 1: cuts to Medicaid, although they seem to want to overlook
Speaker 1: that this would have been the largest tax increase had
Speaker 1: it not passed that America has ever seen all these
Speaker 1: middle class homes. And they keep talking about billionaires getting
Speaker 1: a tax cut. They never quite mentioned the fact that
Speaker 1: the middle class also is getting a rather extraordinary tax
Speaker 1: cut considering the income brackets involved.
Speaker 2: No doubt, Brian, the actually middle and lower income folks
Speaker 2: we are going to see the bigger percentage of tax
Speaker 2: break from the Big Beautiful Bill. There really are no
Speaker 2: cuts to Medicaid. You know, we got through quite a
Speaker 2: bit of debate. You're probably followed some of that in
Speaker 2: our sort of all night session, and I listened to
Speaker 2: what I didn't. I might have lost count at some point,
Speaker 2: but I believe it was about one hundred and five
Speaker 2: Democrats stand up in demand that there be no cuts whatsoever,
Speaker 2: no no looking whatsoever at Medicaid or SNAP for any
Speaker 2: kind of fraud, waste abuse. They wanted illegals to continue
Speaker 2: to benefit from it. They wanted absolutely nothing done to
Speaker 2: stop the massive overspent on those those two programs, two
Speaker 2: vital programs that you know are not sustainable if we
Speaker 2: don't look at how the money is spent. So they
Speaker 2: lined up and all made the exact same motion, saying,
Speaker 2: we demand illegals on these programs, We demand other frausters
Speaker 2: to continue to get their money, and we demand that
Speaker 2: the the bureaucracy itself continued to be wasteful. So it
Speaker 2: was something to see.
Speaker 1: It really is and was, And you know, one one
Speaker 1: must look to the original purpose of Medicaid, which to
Speaker 1: help those on life's margins, get them through the bad
Speaker 1: phase of their life they're going in so that they
Speaker 1: can then free themselves with the build court of government
Speaker 1: and hopefully go on and get a job. But by
Speaker 1: expanding Medicaid ranks which is what Obamacare, what they did
Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, and offering these welfare benefits to
Speaker 1: able bodied people who should be in the workforce. I
Speaker 1: think it's revealing of the ultimate subterfuge that's going on here,
Speaker 1: which is their ultimate goal, the Democrats goal to really
Speaker 1: turn Medicaid into what they wanted, which was national healthcare
Speaker 1: coverage for all. They wanted to put everyone on Medicaid
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 2: Right And you know another thing, it's kind of cynical
Speaker 2: in my mind that the CBO says that millions of
Speaker 2: people are going to lose their Medicaid coverage because the
Speaker 2: work requirements come in. The idea that these people might
Speaker 2: instead comply with the work requirements, which factually are not
Speaker 2: work requirements to begin with, doesn't cross their mind. Like
Speaker 2: these work requirements come in, which we have in basically
Speaker 2: every other federal safety net program. These come in, and
Speaker 2: their their presumption is that they're just gonna refuse to
Speaker 2: meet these requirements, which include you you can you can volunteer,
Speaker 2: you can get word training for the terrible cost of
Speaker 2: twenty hours a week, which most Americans don't even consider
Speaker 2: a full time job. You can volunteer at your own
Speaker 2: child's school twenty hours a week and meet this requirement.
Speaker 1: And continue to get to online, right, and continue to
Speaker 1: get the benefits. I mean, you're not losing your coverage.
Speaker 1: You just need to get off your butt for a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes a week, right, I mean, isn't that
Speaker 1: what this comes down to.
Speaker 2: Exactly? And you can, Brian, you can literally do it
Speaker 2: from your butt. You can do it on the computer.
Speaker 2: That all makes you want. That's an excellent point. And
Speaker 2: meet the requirements.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, you know. And I it's just well, anyway,
Speaker 1: they're trying to make a mount of a molehill of
Speaker 1: a non issue effectively, is what this is. So you know,
Speaker 1: women with young children and disabled folks and everybody else
Speaker 1: is going to ttinue to get their medicaid benefits. But
Speaker 1: there is a heap lot of fraud, waste and abuse,
Speaker 1: and there are a whole lot of illegal immigrants that
Speaker 1: sign up for these social welfare safety net programs. But
Speaker 1: the fundamental point that almost was glossed over in your
Speaker 1: initial comments, no snowfall of view, is these programs are
Speaker 1: on a downward slide to becoming bankrupt. I mean, we
Speaker 1: hear about its social Security all the time, they're going
Speaker 1: to be taking less money in then they pay out.
Speaker 1: That is a huge problem for folks who rely on
Speaker 1: Social Security. Medicare and Medicaid are kind of in the
Speaker 1: same boat. They're not sustainable in the current trajectory. So
Speaker 1: history will look back and perhaps say, you know what,
Speaker 1: the saviors of Medicaid or the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: Right like the people you just talked about in pregnant women, children, seniors,
Speaker 2: people with disabilities that rely on Medicaid are in the
Speaker 2: long run going to lose their benefits because we can't
Speaker 2: do it anymore because it's unsustainable. So if we don't
Speaker 2: weed out they illegals, the people who are the so
Speaker 2: called able bodied adults without dependence who just refuse to work.
Speaker 2: If we don't get these sort of folks that shouldn't
Speaker 2: be on there to begin with off, these programs will
Speaker 2: be sustainable for the people who truly need it. And
Speaker 2: as you said, these programs are supposed to be temporary
Speaker 2: help to get you back on your feet. As Chairman
Speaker 2: Thompson says, it is supposed to be a trampoline, not
Speaker 2: a spider web. When you hit it and it helps
Speaker 2: you back up, the goal of all these programs has
Speaker 2: to be to get folks back on their feet well.
Speaker 1: And the other component of this is I would argue
Speaker 1: that this twenty hour a week, you know a training
Speaker 1: requirement if you want to call it for some or
Speaker 1: you know community service requirement if you want to go
Speaker 1: down that road to fulfill your twenty hours. But in
Speaker 1: so far as job training is concerned, it couldn't come
Speaker 1: at a better time. I got Jack Winsor going to
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Speaker 1: in chief over the Hile Press network. Talking about small
Speaker 1: business owners struggling to fill jobs. I mean, the trades
Speaker 1: are a wonderful career opportunity. It doesn't take a four
Speaker 1: year education to get a job in the trades, electric plumbing, HVACM,
Speaker 1: there's a multitude truction. Demand is high, and you've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of small businesses clamoring for people willing to work. Boom.
Speaker 1: The answer to your prayer is, Okay, I got to
Speaker 1: do some job training. Why not go out there and
Speaker 1: earn while I learn in the trade profession. Timing's perfect, right, yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. The primary complaint I hear from small business
Speaker 1: owners throughout the second District is we just can't get
Speaker 1: anybody to work. Well, you continue to make the finance
Speaker 1: their lifestyle from their home, then they're not going to work.
Speaker 1: So changes have to be made. These able bodied folks
Speaker 1: need to work. They're all going to be happier in
Speaker 1: the long run because, as you and I know, they
Speaker 1: don't make the rules. But if you feel like you're
Speaker 1: contributing something at work, you come home at the end
Speaker 1: of the day generally are a happier person. You may
Speaker 1: not all love your job every minute of every day,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the week you say, you know,
Speaker 1: I accomplished something this week. Somebody needed me and I
Speaker 1: was there. That helps people. There's no way around it.
Speaker 1: All right, we go a couple of minutes left in
Speaker 1: the segment. Congressman Dave Taylor from the second District, what's
Speaker 1: beyond the enshrinement of the tax cuts permanent? Which is
Speaker 1: great hate. I could go on a tear about all
Speaker 1: the times they do tax policy and it's limited some
Speaker 1: short period of time or ten years. They kick the
Speaker 1: can down the road, and they forced another Congress to
Speaker 1: have to address it. At least this is permanent. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to raise taxes. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: run on it, right, I mean, and no one likes
Speaker 1: to hear about their taxes going up, So good luck
Speaker 1: with trying to raise taxes down the road. So that
Speaker 1: kind of bursts the bubble of that possibility. If we
Speaker 1: get a Democrat Congress, they may try, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it will be popular with American people. Considering Trump
Speaker 1: ran on this. I mean, he was elected by a
Speaker 1: majority of the population, he won the majority of states,
Speaker 1: he won the electoral college across the board. It was
Speaker 1: a win, and he did not pull any punches letting
Speaker 1: the American people know what his agenda would be. This
Speaker 1: was in there. It's what we wanted.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Usually you get these big thousand page bills
Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of so called pork in there.
Speaker 2: Every every aspect of the big beautiful bill is a
Speaker 2: campaign promise President Trump made. It's the agenda that people
Speaker 2: voted for in November is being implemented. It's you know,
Speaker 2: it's being codified. And as you said, you're the tax
Speaker 2: policy is vital. And the fact that these tax changes
Speaker 2: are not sunset, not sunsetting. It was part of the
Speaker 2: negotiation process. So the doubling of the tax child tax credit,
Speaker 2: doubling of the standard deduction, the twenty percent deduction for
Speaker 2: small businesses, the death tax tax exemption is doubled and
Speaker 2: made permanent. It goes on and on, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be to the extreme benefit of you know, main
Speaker 2: street America. So no bill is perfect, but it's a
Speaker 2: darn good.
Speaker 1: One, and you know, don't throw out the good for
Speaker 1: the sake of the perfect. I understand that argument. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's been made over again and the lead up to it,
Speaker 1: because there was some concern whether you know, the likes
Speaker 1: of Thomas Massey and others wouldn't get the perfection they
Speaker 1: were looking for. But I understand their principal point. Let's
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Speaker 1: else is in that that you are particularly fond of
Speaker 1: or proud of, Dave Taylor? Beyond the tax cuts which
Speaker 1: I think you and I chategory across the border great
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the very important for our district was the community
Speaker 2: in rural hospital funding. I think everybody that you looked
Speaker 2: into it much knows that the provider tax structure we
Speaker 2: use now to fund it, it's sort of sort of
Speaker 2: an inherently unfair to the taxpayer system. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: community hospitals have to can you continue to be funded fully?
Speaker 2: And you know, we have great community hospitals in the
Speaker 2: Second District. We just need more of them, so funding
Speaker 2: has to continue. So my hat's off to the Senate
Speaker 2: for the changes they made to how community hospitals are funded.
Speaker 2: We're in close contact with Senator Houston and Senator Marino
Speaker 2: and the community hospital leaders from from the Second District
Speaker 2: and around the state. Before the big beautiful bill got
Speaker 2: across the finish line. They came up with a great solution.
Speaker 2: The community hospitals are very pleased with it. And for
Speaker 2: those of you they have Ohioans and think, oh, we
Speaker 2: have two brand new senators, maybe we're not getting the
Speaker 2: best bang for a buck in the Senate. I promise
Speaker 2: those two guys are kicking the same thing we were
Speaker 2: talking about sitting on earlier. They're doing a great job
Speaker 2: over there in the Senate for Ohio in all kinds
Speaker 2: of ways. So very proud to get to work with
Speaker 2: those guys. Well.
Speaker 1: In terms of energy policy, I understand it's a large
Speaker 1: expansion of domestic oil and gas production capacity. I know
Speaker 1: it comes at a kind of an odd time globally
Speaker 1: with OPEC increasing output, and I think it's done with
Speaker 1: a specific design to keep us from opening more wells.
Speaker 1: But we'll deal with the consequences of that as we
Speaker 1: move forward. But also, and this is something I talked
Speaker 1: with Brigham the gown about, with energy policy, an opportunity
Speaker 1: to start building more nuclear power plants, which I think
Speaker 1: are the ultimate key and answer to our energy production
Speaker 1: issues here in America.
Speaker 2: I agree, Brandon, you have the the second District is
Speaker 2: going to have a large part to play with that.
Speaker 2: As I think we might have talked about last time.
Speaker 2: We have the only uranium enrichment facility that's American owned
Speaker 2: in the United States and Pike County. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: like hearing all forms of energy talked about. I'm for
Speaker 2: You're even people are even talking about coal that the
Speaker 2: President's talking about the coal again. But I do believe
Speaker 2: nuclear is the future, and you know that's it's gonna
Speaker 2: it could very well be the epicenter of it right
Speaker 2: here in southern Ohio. Uh, there are small modular nuclear
Speaker 2: reactorc companies who are eyeing the site and uh, we're
Speaker 2: hoping for big things out of there. You know, it's obviously,
Speaker 2: it's clean, it's abund and it's cheap. It's it's a
Speaker 2: solution to every aspect of the the energy concerns, whether
Speaker 2: it does be environmental or supply and uh, it's a road.
Speaker 2: We have to travel in it safely, responsibly and soon,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: And one of the criticisms from many, I think think
Speaker 1: I will throw myself into the hat along that. Not
Speaker 1: that I'm against funding the military, but when you have
Speaker 1: an American military and a budget that they cannot even
Speaker 1: pass an audit five times in a row, I call
Speaker 1: that a giant red flag, most notably on the heels
Speaker 1: of what DOGE was able to figure out with even
Speaker 1: just one department of government that's usaid. No one is
Speaker 1: ever going to be able to convince me there isn't
Speaker 1: massive amounts of fraud, waste, and abuse in American military,
Speaker 1: which has now has a budget of a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: Is there any hope that I'm going to have my
Speaker 1: prayers answered that will unleash DOGE or some other entity
Speaker 1: like an Inspector General on the military spending budget to
Speaker 1: fire it out the fraud, waste, abuse. So maybe we
Speaker 1: don't have to spend that much mundy annually to keep
Speaker 1: our military ready and armed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the brand, I think you're even being extra kind.
Speaker 2: I think it's eight audits able to meet their number.
Speaker 2: So either way, one is too many. And the Big
Speaker 2: Beautiful Bill does have one hundred fifty billion dollars for
Speaker 2: modernization of our military, which is vill you're getting out
Speaker 2: built in navy vessels by China at an alarming rate and
Speaker 2: at a current we don't even have the capacity to
Speaker 2: build at the rate their buildings. Right, money has to
Speaker 2: be spent, but it has to be spent wisely. And
Speaker 2: I think you know that the dose activity is going
Speaker 2: to continue even without Elon Musk And obviously the Department
Speaker 2: of Defense is how long have we heard the joke
Speaker 2: about the five hundred dollars toilet seed? Yeah, so it
Speaker 2: just you know, chugs on and on. So it has
Speaker 2: to be looked into our dollars. We worked hard for them,
Speaker 2: and we're happy to spend them to protect our country.
Speaker 2: But that's what they need to be spent on, not
Speaker 2: on a bloated waste. All right.
Speaker 1: And finally, before we heard of our company, Congressman Taylor,
Speaker 1: we got money to secure border. Lots more ice officers money,
Speaker 1: more border patrol agents, all of which are apparently doing
Speaker 1: a very effective job right now. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: still necessary to build a wall? I mean, considering the
Speaker 1: last administration and the numbers just flowing over the border,
Speaker 1: that was because it was facilitated. I mean, we hung
Speaker 1: a dangling cart of open borders and free benefits and
Speaker 1: stuff and things. The world showed up at the southern
Speaker 1: border and in the northern border as well, and we
Speaker 1: didn't do anything to stop it. As soon as Trump
Speaker 1: gets elected, it's almost it stopped completely. I mean there
Speaker 1: were very few interactions, and those who interacted with ICE
Speaker 1: agents were sent back home so they weren't admitted into
Speaker 1: the United States. We've almost shut down the illegal flow
Speaker 1: of immigration. Do we really need the wall if the
Speaker 1: agents themselves are doing an effective job of stopping the
Speaker 1: flow of humanity.
Speaker 2: It's a good question, Brian. I think on a cost
Speaker 2: to effectiveness basis, we should be going forward with the wall,
Speaker 2: and they are certain parts, so the bigger part of
Speaker 2: it is not wall. I think there's seven hundred miles
Speaker 2: left to cover, or seven hundred miles of wall and
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred total miles left to secure and for the
Speaker 2: dollars at that cost and effect the effectiveness that it
Speaker 2: has long term, especially in the event of a we
Speaker 2: go back to a Democrat controlled Congress and White House
Speaker 2: where you know, there what seemed to be their primary
Speaker 2: motivation was to get as many people as possible across
Speaker 2: the southern border. At least the wall would serve to
Speaker 2: slow it down in that circumstance. Uh So, yeah, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, for value for a dollar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm for the wall, for the for the barricade, because
Speaker 2: it's going to help our border patrol too. We went
Speaker 2: down to uh the Gallas crossing point, and I mean
Speaker 2: that place is immaculate. They were showing us the intake
Speaker 2: and holding areas and there wasn't the sole in there
Speaker 2: that when while we were there, we didn't see anybody
Speaker 2: even attempt to cross. And those guys are happy as
Speaker 2: they can be, and they're working hard and been you know,
Speaker 2: allowed to do their job, which is all they ever
Speaker 2: asked for. So I'm from making their job as easy
Speaker 2: as possible, for protecting America at the highest level we
Speaker 2: can for the most reasonable price we can, and I
Speaker 2: think the wall does that.
Speaker 1: Dave Taylor and thanks to all those in the second
Speaker 1: district in Ohio for electing Dave. He's doing a great
Speaker 1: job up there. And keep up the great work, Dave,
Speaker 1: and we'll continue as we move forward with the Trump
Speaker 1: administration see if he can't fulfill more of his promises
Speaker 1: that he ran on. And Dave keep doing the great work,
Speaker 1: my friend. I'll look forward to having it back in
Speaker 1: the morning show real soon. Thank you, Brian, my pleasure.
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