1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:08,519 Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:16,480 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book seven chapters twenty eight, twenty nine, 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:24,679 and thirty. In these chapters, everything starts to go to hell. 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,600 Oh you guys, this is hard to listen to. And 5 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,320 you know, I've been feeling anxious this whole time, but 6 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:37,240 this really made me go, yeah, you were right to 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:01:01,240 be anxious. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. 8 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:04,760 I am Natasha. Thank you very much to Michael for 9 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:11,359 commissioning this episode. Y'all. I really thought too, just to 10 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,959 like point this out, a lot of these books so 11 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:21,599 far have been around like a number of chapters, so 12 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,079 that I would be maybe about halfway through by now. 13 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:30,719 Not only am I not quite halfway, but because Michael 14 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,719 readed the breakdown and we are going to be going 15 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:40,239 a little bit more slowly with it all, there's a 16 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,359 lot more to go. I think it's something like another 17 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,319 like twelve episodes, and so I know that there is 18 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:51,239 so much more to happen, but we are in such 19 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:54,319 dire straits that I'm like, what more is there to 20 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:58,879 be done? Aren't isn't it? Aren't we in crisis? Mode. 21 00:01:58,959 --> 00:02:04,879 Yet this isn't climax, you know what I mean. So 22 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:11,919 chapter twenty eight we start off with Donut griping about 23 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,759 the fact that now Carl is the party leader, and 24 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,240 she tries to say, like, I'll be able to tick 25 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 back up and take it back, and he's like, that's 26 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,520 not how that's gonna work. She tries to say, like 27 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,759 because of my cloak, and he's like, no, the cloak's 28 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,599 an enhancement. It's not going to stay. It's not the same. 29 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,719 We then have this bit with Wrend, who is trying 30 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:40,639 to I had forgotten to mention the like rhino mercenary 31 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,639 that Rend is set to guard. Rend is explicitly told 32 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:49,560 do not eat him, but once we rejoin him, he 33 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,159 is trying to eat him, and he does succeed in 34 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:58,520 eating this creature's boot, which Carl says something about like 35 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,639 we'll try and find a replace, and I was just like, 36 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:06,039 good luck, because this dude has very specific feet. Granted, 37 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:10,439 all the creatures around here are very specific, so you know, 38 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,599 and I'm sure there's probably somebody with a weird cobbler skill, 39 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:20,400 but yeah, so this guy, the way the AI describes 40 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,639 him is it's so sad because basically what he says 41 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:27,360 is like, this is a dude who was like, you know, 42 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,280 ashamed because he had fucked up a previous assignment and 43 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,520 is had been like making up for it by guarding 44 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:44,680 Princess Dnadia and was like getting some of his confidence back, 45 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:48,599 and then you came in and completely spanked him, and 46 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,439 now his confidence is in the toilet again, and I 47 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,639 was just like, Oh, that sucks. His entire squad was 48 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:03,199 killed during an unfortunate incident at the Desperado Club that 49 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,039 you may or may not have been partially responsible for. 50 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,159 I don't think he was at all responsible for it. 51 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,800 I don't you know, maybe don't have open holes into 52 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:25,360 the nothing in your casino? How about that? How about that? Anyway, 53 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:33,079 So his name is Toya Tolm Me and him and 54 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,199 Carl have a conversation about like where he can do 55 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,319 the most good, and Carl gives him the option of, 56 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,839 like you can guard this place, you can go back 57 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:49,319 to our other spot. And it's like, you know, I 58 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:54,120 see in your stats that you are able to protect buildings, 59 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,639 and he mentions something about the shield for this place, 60 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,480 and Carl's like, wait, what you had a shi up, 61 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,079 which it's understandable that he is confused by that. But honestly, 62 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,480 the thing that I was like thinking here was very 63 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,319 much that it almost sounds like he's trying to like 64 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:15,399 fuck with the guy. I know he's not. I understand 65 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:18,079 this is a real question, but if you're already sensitive 66 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,800 about the fact that you fucked up, this question could 67 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,279 be taken very much as a challenge, you know. And 68 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,240 when he's like, oh, all right, you know what? Because 69 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,439 he says the castle is too big for me, but 70 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,240 Warler Donadia insisted she had me keep a shield going, 71 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,680 and it tired me, so I could only do it 72 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,160 in spurts. I was resting when you arrived, which is 73 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,759 how you got the jump on me. I am shamed. Okay, 74 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,079 change of plans. I'm sending you to shantytown, he nodded solemnly. 75 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,839 I will accept my exile. It's not an exile. We 76 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:55,519 need your talents and we're stretched thin. Hang on, I 77 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,920 jumped to chat and he talks to Lee June, which 78 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:03,879 correct me if I'm wrong. But is this the first 79 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:06,079 time he's talked to Lee June since the eye incident? 80 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,079 I don't I feel like he must have talked to 81 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,240 him sooner, but it's not a moment that we get 82 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,560 to see, and that surprises me. I really thought it 83 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,240 was going to be like if this, if he finally 84 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,160 spoke to Carl, you know, we would be there for it, 85 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:34,439 and we're just all business. It's a weird moment that 86 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,879 I was sort of waiting for something to be awkward 87 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:44,959 or odd about it, and nothing is. So Lee June 88 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:52,079 is like, hey man, so we've got, you know, a 89 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,160 lot to do. We're going as fast as we can, 90 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:59,040 but we are definitely spread thin, and if you have 91 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,720 some people to send to us, that'd be great. And 92 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,759 Carl says he's gonna send a mercenary and he's like 93 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:07,160 just one and he's like, yeah, Floren's getting hammered. So 94 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,279 I'm sorry, but we might not be able to spare 95 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:13,600 anybody else. And then the Gin is like, okay, fair. Also, 96 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:19,519 somebody has been looking for you, real weirdo. And we 97 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,720 find out that this is Agatha and she is like 98 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,839 a danger now in a way that we hadn't been. 99 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:35,360 And Zev chimes in here, I've gotten a warning. This 100 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,439 is coming directly from the Syndicate Council Prime Minister Glory himself, 101 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:44,519 messaged me the Prime Minister, and Carl understandably to me, 102 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:49,800 is just like, oh another warning. Yeah, come on, guys, 103 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:54,279 what am I I'm meant to worry about this right now? 104 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,399 Do you see that? They're like there's a one hundred 105 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:03,199 thousand army coming at us. And as that was like, no, no, no, seriously, 106 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,759 I get that you usually do the I'll just do 107 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:08,360 what I want, but I need you to hear that 108 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:14,079 this is different. And he says, okay, but last time 109 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,360 we talked about her, you blithely assured me that she 110 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,920 was nothing to worry about. And now all of a sudden, 111 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,360 she's such a threat that I have to like outright 112 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,000 ignore her if she speaks to me, are you serious? 113 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:37,320 Like come on? And she says, look, I don't get 114 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,879 what's happening with this either, but I think enough has 115 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,639 been going on to threaten some of the higher ups. 116 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:50,639 Considering Stockade and now Donadia, everybody is growing a bit 117 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,840 more tense. And the Prime Minister was very urgent with 118 00:08:55,879 --> 00:09:01,799 this message, so and says, we'll try to intercede if 119 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:05,679 she approaches, but if we're not successful, you need to 120 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,240 just ignore her. The AI supposedly removed all its protections 121 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,720 of the residuals, and they're all pretty much dead except 122 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:17,399 this one. It seems to have a soft spot for her, 123 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,519 kind of like it has for you. And this was 124 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,759 interesting to me. The fact that the AI likes her 125 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:28,440 for some reason. I wonder why, you know, the AI 126 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,320 like the Aiking Carl is also interesting because I feel 127 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,960 like we all just sort of put it down to 128 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,120 the foot fetish thing, and I just that's not it. It 129 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,039 can't it just can't quite be it. I don't believe it, 130 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,320 and I do not believe that the AI is into 131 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,080 Agatha's feet. I would be willing to bet she has 132 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,960 neary shown her feet once in this dungeon, you know 133 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,919 what I mean. I'm just really interested in what all 134 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:00,159 causes the AI to be like, you know what, I'm 135 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:04,320 going to give this person, specifically a break, you know, 136 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,559 so sorry, Michael says it has the same soft spot 137 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 for her as it has for Carl. Her trip to 138 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:17,559 the floor could not have been easy. Yeah, when we 139 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,639 were in her POV, she says something about how like 140 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:24,080 usually residuals don't get past for four if it was 141 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,799 like a really early floor. Uh. Sarah Fis is pretty 142 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,240 sure Agatha has been her who's been talking to the 143 00:10:30,279 --> 00:10:34,080 AI about what's really going on, and Tony's just trying 144 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,360 to and hire Tony. She's told me much. Perhaps, yeah, 145 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,039 maybe it is her, which would be It would be 146 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,120 so interesting because like when we're in Agatha's POV, her 147 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,799 goal is to end everything. I don't know if she 148 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,600 has any awareness of what Carl's button was that he 149 00:10:54,759 --> 00:11:00,879 was given by Paulie. I am certain that if he 150 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,679 told her that she had like disabled that and had 151 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,240 no access anymore, she would be pretty pissed. But I'm 152 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,440 not even sure if she's aware, because it seemed like 153 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,159 she was not from the same team as Polly, and 154 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:16,080 her assumption was that the opposing team doesn't have the 155 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,440 same objectives that her team has, and hers seems to 156 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:26,039 be basically like just complete annihilation of beings, you know. 157 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:33,840 So yeah, I don't know, I don't know. He also 158 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,840 asked about Luciamar, who evidently is simply not responding to 159 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,360 messages anymore, and then Zev says, do you know one 160 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,360 of her dogs ate Mukta back when she still had 161 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:47,639 two dogs. It was horrible. Mukta was an ass and 162 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,879 a party member, but nobody deserved that. I can still 163 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:56,200 hear the screaming. I laughed out loud. The fact that 164 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,639 zeb is relaying something that she finds traumatizing and Carl 165 00:12:00,759 --> 00:12:05,519 literally laughs in her face is disturbing, genuinely, And I 166 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,879 understand his position here. I understand that, yes, we might 167 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,559 like Zev at this point, and we might see that 168 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:15,200 Zev is also a victim in her own way, but 169 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:19,639 she is still part of this system and so he 170 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,679 doesn't have the same sympathy, and that is completely fair. 171 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,279 But I still did get a bit of a chill 172 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,679 off of I laughed out loud, like I, you know, 173 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:37,360 especially considering that, like Zev has watched family members get 174 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:41,799 tortured to death as we have eluded, so she's got 175 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:44,639 some trauma anyway, and watching that happen had to have 176 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:50,679 been triggering as fuck. But uh, I'm sure Carl is 177 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:52,759 just like, I've seen a whole lot worse than that 178 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:57,320 every fucking day, So crime a river and that is 179 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,519 totally fair. I'm just I'm just saying. So he mentioned 180 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,919 something about like I don't have time for that roundtable, 181 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,759 by the way, and she's like, it's not optional. So 182 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:08,960 I don't know what to tell you, and he just 183 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,159 says whatever, so he lets it go, but you know 184 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:19,519 it's gonna happen. And he is thinking about Agatha for 185 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,480 a while, just like, what does it mean that she's 186 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,320 looking for him? What could it be that she? Like? 187 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,679 What kind of threat could she actually pose? That they're 188 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:36,120 so concerned about me contacting her at all? And let's 189 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,360 say I'm trying to find uh I didn't know what 190 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:42,919 their true goal was, the why of it all, and 191 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,519 why and how the two types of residuals were different. 192 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:50,039 Nobody seems to know the blind spot was so so dangerous. 193 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,200 The fact the leader of the entire syndicate was sticking 194 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,559 his nose into this was telling something had changed since 195 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,320 the end of the previous floor regarding their understanding of 196 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:06,759 the residuals of And he then starts naming the syndicates 197 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,519 two different residual types, the Apothecary, the go people from 198 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,000 the Plenty, the Open Intellect Pacifist Network, those crazy weirdo nebulaars. 199 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,399 How even Odette and those were just the parties I 200 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,600 knew about. They all wanted something different. It was like 201 00:14:21,759 --> 00:14:25,279 trying to solve a blank puzzle while half the pieces 202 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,200 were missing. And some of the pieces that were there 203 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:33,159 were decoys, which is a very good metaphor that I 204 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:40,759 think is quite effective as a descriptor. And of course 205 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:44,519 he has to put this aside for a moment. Warning, 206 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,759 A throne room you own is currently occupied by Madness 207 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:50,240 enemy forces. If you don't return to claim this throne 208 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:53,960 in six hours, this castle and the associated land will 209 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:04,240 be ceded to the Madness. So let's see. I sent 210 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:06,840 the mercenary for the Dream out and told him to 211 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:09,440 start walking back to his territory. This wasn't some grand 212 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,480 Machiavellian plan. I didn't know what was going to happen 213 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:14,240 after we left. There was no way we could defend 214 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,960 land that wasn't attached to our main force, not yet. 215 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,639 If we let the viceroys take it, they'd own three 216 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:23,279 sections of land. I didn't carry either way, but I imagined 217 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,159 none of the other members of the block would be 218 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,919 huge fans of letting that happen, and by making the 219 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,720 Madness mercenary sit in there, it would at least force 220 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:35,200 the other leaders to make a decision. So yeah, cause 221 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,279 I was like surprised that he just didn't seem to 222 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,639 have very much urgency when he got this notification and 223 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,519 in this I was like, oh, okay, so he's having 224 00:15:42,559 --> 00:15:48,840 them try and like stretch themselves a little bit. I 225 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:51,480 had the impression none of these leaders liked each other 226 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,519 very much, so hopefully this would sew a little discord. 227 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:59,240 I looked at Donut ready too down, who are we 228 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:04,000 getting next? And he says, it's a blob hunting season, 229 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,879 So we jumped to twenty nine. Toyotomi can't fit in 230 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:12,600 the party planner, so we had them grab their transport 231 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,279 and head straight to the border with Shantytown. There were 232 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,679 five similar vehicles minus the armour plating parked behind the castle, 233 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,120 and we had them take them all. We had the 234 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,039 mercenaries head northwest toward the border of Shantytown. There they 235 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:28,639 would enter the city and move into Posse territory by 236 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:33,080 bypassing the Naga territory altogether. There were a handful of 237 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,360 guard outposts between here and there, containing NPC guards and 238 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,080 mercenaries that were now on our team, and we'd had 239 00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:42,600 the pick, we'd have them picked up along the way. 240 00:16:43,639 --> 00:16:47,720 I worried about the integrity of Shantytown. We had a 241 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:50,519 full battalion parked, but the town was shaped like a 242 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:53,559 literal doughnut that could be attacked from just about any 243 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,039 angle if and when the attack came, it would likely 244 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,759 be from several places at once, which it never occurred 245 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:04,400 to me what a disadvantage the doughnut shape was in 246 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,920 that sense. But yeah, stopping and think about it, I'm like, ooh, 247 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,640 that is that is really tough. Like if it's round, 248 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,599 that's bad enough because you can just be surrounded. But 249 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,960 now you can be surrounded and they can come at 250 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,519 you from inside, which I don't know, man, maybe we 251 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:26,640 got to figure out a way for this whole thing 252 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240 to be a different shape. Is there a way to 253 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:34,119 do that? Like, can we use Katcha's abilities to like 254 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,240 construct things to make some sort of barrier in the 255 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:40,640 middle that will be difficult to get through. I'm not 256 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,200 it might just not even be worth a trouble, you know. 257 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:50,440 I don't know, but you know, it's Uh. It was 258 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,960 just an interesting point that he made, and I was 259 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:55,240 just like, I've never even thought about it like that. 260 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,359 None of the enemy had bothered attacking the town just yet, 261 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:03,759 likely because they figured it wasn't necessary. Entering shantytown would 262 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:06,640 open themselves up to getting attacked by Lorocos defense system 263 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,440 without a way to fight back as long as we 264 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,160 were still in the game. Plus, the town's rules were different, 265 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,680 which this is interesting. There's no throne room. They could 266 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,319 only take it by killing me the moment we were defeated. 267 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:21,680 Lorocos would open up if the block truce remained in effect, 268 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,680 and they could just raise the entire town like they 269 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,640 usually did. Still, the town was a nice, juicy target 270 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:34,039 that bordered every slice of the pie. That was the 271 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:35,759 reason that I was sort of like, maybe we should 272 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:39,400 put the energy into like blocking out the middle somehow, 273 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,000 you know, But like, ah, it all depends, and there's 274 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:45,279 gonna be angles that I haven't thought of, of course. 275 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:53,759 So this is when they enter their personal space, and 276 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Doughnut is like, should we use this entrance for a 277 00:18:56,519 --> 00:19:01,160 sneak attack? And I love that. She's like, we can 278 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,400 call it the bamboozle, which is such a good name, 279 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,960 and uh, He's like, the thing is that it's a 280 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,559 double edged sword if we do that. But they find 281 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:12,960 a way to block it, we have no way back in, 282 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:19,400 which really sucks for us. And we have a reminder 283 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,240 here about the blood bar because it surprised me again 284 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,759 that like Doughnut doesn't get any credit for that kill 285 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:29,599 because Mango's her pet, so I just thought there would 286 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:33,079 be some but evidently not. She's only allowed a half 287 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,440 hour in there, and Carl goes in. The first thing, 288 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:40,640 of course, that he wants to do is step across 289 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:48,359 his like resting matt thing and clean off the cleaner 290 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,519 Bot give an angry beep at all the mud and 291 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:54,839 blood we were trailing on the floor. Cleaner Bot. Look, 292 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,400 I had sympathy for you initially, but you literally have 293 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,480 one job. And normally I don't like that phrase because 294 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:04,480 people will say it when it's just not true. But 295 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,440 for you, it is true. You literally have one job. Now, 296 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,599 is there something cleaner Bot wants that we could give 297 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,039 it to sweeten the deal? I'd be willing to tip. 298 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,119 What is it you want, cleaner Bot? What? What is 299 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,359 a treat for a vacuum a little roomba? What is 300 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,880 what is something that he would like? I'll play the game, 301 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,480 you know, but I don't want to hear from you. 302 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,039 They just the fact that they are covered in blood 303 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,319 indicate something went very wrong for them or very right, 304 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,200 but either way, it was trauma. So just keep it 305 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,400 to yourself. There's also the mention when he picks up 306 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Rent to put him in like the cleaning thing, that 307 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,279 he is super heavy and that he won't be able 308 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:59,480 to lift him soon, which considering how strong Carl is, like, 309 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:01,559 you know, he has all of these different things that 310 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,279 have caused him to have this unnatural strength. If he 311 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,920 can't lift Rend, who is only up to his knee, 312 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,720 bro is made of like cement or something, you know 313 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:20,240 what I'm saying, Like damn, So I love the description 314 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,799 of him in the cleaning like booth looking at Carls 315 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:30,319 so mournfully out the glass. There are some dogs who 316 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,160 love to get baths, and I'm still trying to figure 317 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,680 out if there's a way to like trick my dogs 318 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,400 into liking it, but so far I haven't found the 319 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,480 trick of it. I think part of it is that 320 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,640 my one of my dogs, Pippin, he doesn't like like 321 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,319 machine sounds and noises, and so when we turn the 322 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:50,839 shower on, I think the noise of it just kind 323 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:53,920 of freezes him out. But it is weird because both 324 00:21:53,960 --> 00:22:02,440 he and Aarwin love water, so that's not the issue. Anyway, 325 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:06,599 He's going through a bunch of messages and is just 326 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,559 kind of overwhelmed at how many notifications he's getting. This 327 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:13,640 is something that also has me concerned. You know, it 328 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,559 would be really really easy to overlook something when there 329 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,160 are so many things to keep track of. And I 330 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,880 wish that there were some kind of enhancement that he 331 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,160 could get to his ability to multitask, like the focus 332 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,240 thing later but permanent, you know, because I could see 333 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,799 this being the weak spot. And there comes a point 334 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,079 later where he's talking to somebody and it's mentioned that 335 00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:49,039 that person's eyes are blinking in such a way that 336 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:53,599 they are clearly like composing a message, but they're also 337 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:57,799 talking to Dona as they do that. I don't know 338 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:00,519 if any of y'all has ever tried to, like, say 339 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,799 one thing while typing another thing. It is not easy, 340 00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:09,799 and the fact that this person is capable of that 341 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,359 is kind of bonkers. And I definitely got preoccupied with 342 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,559 thinking about just like, how are they doing that? And 343 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880 is this a function of just getting used to two 344 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,640 different communication methods and it just, you know, a thing 345 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,680 that seems super hard to me. You just learn to 346 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,960 adapt or you fucking die. And so they've adapted, or 347 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:35,359 is it because of the way that their bodies have 348 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,440 been changed being in the dungeon for the messaging system 349 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,720 to work. Can they split their attention like that? Like 350 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:49,960 really interested? So there's some mention here. Boomer was salty 351 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,400 about us not pushing to take the Naga castle, and 352 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,079 I didn't blame him. That would have been the safest 353 00:23:55,079 --> 00:24:00,359 and smartest play, especially considering the additional NPCs we'd potentially gain. 354 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200 I didn't care for now. The retreating enemy forces were 355 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,200 scattered through Naga territory, and without a spy in their midst, 356 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:10,240 I wasn't sure how they were handling it. I could 357 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:12,279 see the positions of the new troops, and the system 358 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:15,039 allowed us to give them orders. Tran was handling that. 359 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,240 I don't want to read like because there's there's a 360 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,839 lot here about where everybody is positioned, et cetera, et cetera, 361 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,880 And as usual, there are times where I feel like 362 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,640 it's not interesting for me to recount that, so I'm 363 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,000 going to skip over some of this. I reveled in 364 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,839 the rare moment of silence. I thought about what happened 365 00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:38,880 when we confronted Di Nadia. I'd seen my father and 366 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,839 myself at that moment. You're scaring me Doughnut had said, 367 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,960 I still needed to process it. I never got the chance. Yeah, 368 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:54,000 this is this is the thing, you know, he's being 369 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,359 he's being overwhelmed. I hate this for him, I really 370 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,920 really do. Donut. Did you open your nineteen fourteen box yet? 371 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,720 I got a spell book called war Crime. It's bleeding 372 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,599 and crying and it's disgusting. Can you imagine you guys? 373 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:20,160 Oh my god. I the fact that Carl doesn't even 374 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,160 like check for his again, what is it that you got? 375 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,920 It might be super useful. I would be opening my 376 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:31,599 shit like as soon as I could, you know. But uh, 377 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,319 he's just he's got a lot on his mind here. 378 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,000 So this is when Florin comes in and is like, 379 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,839 all right, they're really pulling out the big, big guns 380 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,119 at this point, very literally, this is them throwing everything 381 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,240 they've got. Have Louis drop what he has to protect 382 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:52,680 our retreat, but you should reroute the one zero sixths 383 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:58,240 to the castle. And this was followed by literally hundreds 384 00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:02,480 of trap notifications, meaning they were already rushing past our 385 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:07,839 first line of trenches and then home base anti air battery. 386 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,319 A silent alarm is triggered home Base Anti air Battery 387 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,839 has been destroyed, and then Tippett is saying enemy in 388 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,119 the base, enemy in the base, and Carl is just like, wait, 389 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,039 what the fuck is going on? And he's like, it's 390 00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:31,599 got to be sabotaged, right, Like how did they get 391 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,839 past the centuries? It had to be somebody that was 392 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:42,920 already on the inside. So Donut finds the door. It's 393 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,480 actually one of the rock guys. What is it, bomo 394 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,960 a door for the safe room from the Reaver team. 395 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,480 They're doing what we were going to do. They're sneak 396 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,440 attacking us using the safe room door the bamboozle. They're 397 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:01,839 in the castle. So what car Garl realizes is that 398 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,200 they purchased a doggy door upgrade and if you have 399 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,799 one of those, you can go literally you can use 400 00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:13,200 it to connect to anywhere that you've already been. And 401 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,559 if they had ever been in the bait shop, which 402 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:25,200 they would have been, that they can get right inside. 403 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,640 And he's wondering how long the door's been there, which 404 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,279 is a good question because like, I'm assuming it just appeared, 405 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:31,880 but there's no reason to think that, And if it's 406 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,079 been there, they could have been coming in and fucking 407 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,359 with shit. The whole time, which is what I think 408 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,240 might have been going on with the worms, but it's 409 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,279 it's not entirely clear how exactly that got started, So 410 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,799 that's my assumption, but we don't know yet. And this 411 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,880 is when he sees somebody named reed Gun when he 412 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,680 uses ping, who is labeled as dead but who is 413 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,720 moving around, and he is outside an area where there's 414 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,119 blue dots, and then they all turned to x's around him, 415 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,839 and Carl is just like, how could he be dead 416 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,119 but still standing? And he comes to the conclusion brain 417 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,359 worms really quickly. I'll be honest, y'all, I fully thought 418 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,519 this was going to turn out to be a necromancy spell. 419 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,400 I don't think that we've really seen much in the 420 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,880 way of like crawlers having necromancy. We've seen abilities and 421 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:31,440 individual spells, but necromancy is like a crawler skill. Isn't 422 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,640 something I feel we've run across before, if I'm not mistaken. 423 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,240 So as much as I was sort of like, we've 424 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:49,160 never seen that, it's a like I thought, maybe okay, 425 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,720 somebody has it that we didn't realize, you know, and 426 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,680 not that this is a crawler obviously, but that maybe 427 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,839 there was I don't think that reanimation would be considered 428 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,000 an offensive spell necessarily. It depends, I'm sure, on like 429 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:09,680 some of the parameters around it. So that's what I 430 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,839 was thinking, was that this was just somebody undead and 431 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,000 being controlled like a puppet. And when he said brain worms, 432 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,559 I was like, oh, because he went in a totally 433 00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:23,680 different direction with the thought process, and he turns out 434 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,720 to be right quite shortly. But uh yeah, I definitely 435 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,920 was not on the right wavelength for this at all. 436 00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:36,440 You know, Sorry, I'm just like, there's a bunch of chats. 437 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,279 Saraphim says, Donut has her second chance spell, but pretty 438 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:44,039 sure the map labels undead as monster slash NPCs, not players. 439 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,599 Oh maybe, uh and yeah, like her second chance spell. 440 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,000 That's sort of what I meant when I was saying, like, 441 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:53,519 we've seen there be like individual spells that can do 442 00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:57,599 certain things, but we've never seen a necromancer like a class, 443 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,279 you know what I mean, somebody who specializes in that. 444 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,640 So I don't know if that's even a thing or 445 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,079 if it's more like a crawler was Most crawlers would 446 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,920 not have the stomach to use necromancy. When it's like 447 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,880 probably I'm going to have to reanimate dead friends, you know, 448 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,799 fellow crawlers. I don't know. It seems like it'd be 449 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,039 very useful, but you'd have to have a particular practicality 450 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:35,480 about you that somebody, somebody like Westerface could have eva, 451 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,440 you know, a viciousness where you don't care. But and 452 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,599 depending on how good you are at it, it would 453 00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,680 be terrifying in a case like this, where you could 454 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440 just reanimate so many of the enemy and have them 455 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,880 turn from the inside. So when I was thinking that 456 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,759 it was an undead thing, I was really really worried 457 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,559 in a different way. Then it turns out I needed 458 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,079 to be, because what I was thinking about was stale, 459 00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,000 how many people could they turn? How many dead are 460 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,960 there now that they can use? And instead, what we 461 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,359 need to worry about is how the valve Tae can 462 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:24,000 take anybody and or like override their regular body functions 463 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960 so that they do things that ordinarily that body wouldn't 464 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,559 be capable of, and they can jump from one body 465 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,480 to another fairly easily. If they don't care about the 466 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,039 body they are in, they will beat the shit out 467 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,920 of that thing, doing what needs doing, and then bail, 468 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,960 you know, so by no means, am I trying to 469 00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:47,400 say this is less scary, but it's different. And I 470 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,119 just was fully going down a certain track and I 471 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,079 was glad that it gets cleared up within sentences of me, 472 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:03,759 like coming to that conclusion, you know, so sorry. The 473 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200 seraphim says, I could also see someone like lee Na 474 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,160 being fine with it. She's terrifyingly practical. Yeah, that could 475 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,799 that could work. Rob says, oh please, an aspiring necromancer 476 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,559 must have excellent elocution and a spirit of nobility, and 477 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,400 like me, Pisces. This is a wandering in reference for 478 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:24,519 those who are not aware. Pisces, what what? What a 479 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,400 great guy? I enjoy him. Pain in the ass, but 480 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,400 kind of a pain in the ass in a way 481 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,880 I can appreciate. So Carl, coming to this conclusion, begins 482 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,960 to send out the messages to everybody about about like 483 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400 this person is listed as dead, but they are like, 484 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,160 go handle this, and he is seeing another one that's 485 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,440 coming in a human crawler and bucket boy, the young 486 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,920 crocodilian medic dragged between them, a former crawler, a yank 487 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,759 screaming in pain. I cross red friends. The names of 488 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,559 all three with the casualty list, the one on the left. 489 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 He was a crawler. He was a level fifty eight 490 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,240 human named Charles Andrew. He was also a class called 491 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:16,480 an Armored Mage. He was listed as dead and I 492 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,880 just you know, they don't know what's going on here. 493 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,119 So all I could think for a second was that Carl. 494 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,599 You know, we've had that moment of like Louis being 495 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,240 afraid of him and saying, you get wilder and wilder 496 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,359 looking around the eyes, and I'm just waiting for you 497 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,519 to fucking snap and kill everybody. And all I could 498 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,359 think in this moment is like, is everybody gonna assume 499 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,400 it's finally happened because Carl just launches himself at this 500 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,359 guy and beats him to death, and like he's already dead, so, 501 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,160 you know, but the worm comes out, It's quite quickly 502 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:58,359 apparent what Carl's doing and why. But for a moment, 503 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:01,640 I was just like, oh no, it could very easily 504 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,279 be taken out of context and he would look like 505 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,279 he has really gone off the deep end entirely, It's 506 00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:13,719 finally happened, you know. So the worm comes out, he 507 00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:18,159 stomps on it, and achievement flashed, but I waved it away. 508 00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,639 I always want to know what the achievements are. I 509 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,239 am not mad that we're not dealing with it right now. 510 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,400 I totally write call, but I want to know. I 511 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:32,280 really do. So, yeah, he lets everybody know, like you 512 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,480 need to start cross referencing everybody around you with the 513 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,559 casualty list and double check whether or not they are 514 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:45,199 still actually alive. Rend at this point, tries to eat 515 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,400 the guy and Carl says, no, we don't eat our own. 516 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,000 And I really don't know if it would have harmed 517 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:59,559 Rend to eat a body that had been brought back 518 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,920 with a valet tape, where I'm like, I don't it 519 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,119 doesn't count as undead, I don't think. But there could 520 00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:10,840 be like a you know, there's a gray area there. 521 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:17,079 I don't know. So anyway, an ominous message appeared on 522 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:20,800 my local feed fall back defend the castle, Defend the castle, 523 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,760 defend to the death again. Is this the AI? Is 524 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,440 this the AI like giving instruction here? I'm just it 525 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,239 just appears. It just appears, you know, this is my question. 526 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,519 It's like not coming from anywhere specifically, it's not labeled 527 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,480 like warning. It doesn't have the tone that I'm used to. 528 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:47,400 So this is when he says unleash Tina, and chapter 529 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,880 thirty starts. In the heat of it, one learns who 530 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,239 they really are, what they really want, their greatest fears, 531 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,639 but worse, much worse, oftentimes, one also faces their greater 532 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,840 greatest desires. Bear for me, they are the same, and 533 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:09,159 it is my devastation. Stab stab stab. Priestly, I just 534 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:12,280 want to say that it's not your greatest desire, it's 535 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800 just the greatest desire that was forced upon you now 536 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,920 that you are in this like hellish situation. Please do 537 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,159 not believe that this is really who you are. But 538 00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:30,519 I know it's like too late for that, so I'm 539 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,119 so sorry. Rob is giving an important waffle update in 540 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,719 the chat right now. We're talking about waffles before we started. 541 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,760 If you would like to know participate in these waffle conversations, 542 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,360 you should come to the lives and you could really 543 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,000 get in on some interesting tater tap waffle chat, et cetera. 544 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,639 So we are trying to pull it together here at 545 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:56,519 the start of chapter three, but they have definitely been 546 00:36:56,519 --> 00:37:01,320 caught off guard. We knew that everybody hadn't had as 547 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,400 much time as we wanted to get things ready, and 548 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,039 even as much time as they were supposed to get 549 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,559 wasn't going to be enough. But this all is adding 550 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:22,559 another wrench into the works. Let's see, our most crucial 551 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:26,320 platoon of Home Defenders, the Beefy Boys, sof were half dead. 552 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,599 This was the squad which consisted of mages whose sole 553 00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,159 purpose was to make certain all the wallbuffs and bass 554 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:37,840 shields were always topped off, which fucking sucks. And one 555 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:46,360 of the people who's been like ganked, that was his specialty. 556 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,280 And there's a mention here about like all of the 557 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,719 buffs and the shields and everything, but that pulse guns 558 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,480 can still do damage. They can still, you know, get 559 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:04,679 through a lot of this stuff. And Doctor Bones is like, 560 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,199 I can't wait for that fucking magic to turn back on. 561 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800 And I'm like, yeah, dude, it's been like what a day. 562 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,280 It hasn't been a full day, and already I'm just 563 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,840 like this sucks. Oh my god, how are we even 564 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,599 going to get there? Honestly, it's as much as I 565 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:26,480 am so delighted at all of these outside folks coming in, 566 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:31,239 it still doesn't seem like enough at all, not even remotely. 567 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,800 All of this was just the initial attack. They were 568 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,440 softening us up for the main force which was hauling 569 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,360 ass toward us from the north. They'd simply bypassed Floren 570 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,840 and the one oh ones fallback position. The enemy hadn't 571 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,920 had left enough troops to occupy our main forces, but 572 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,880 the bulk of them would be on us in about 573 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,280 half an hour. So he gets in touch with Louis 574 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,920 and he's like, we got to we finished the inside repair, 575 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,559 but we have to get outside to manually fix it. 576 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,880 And the door to the hangar is on top of 577 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,320 the castle, which is super dangerous to go up there, 578 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,159 so this is not something that they're going to be 579 00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:20,800 able to fix anytime soon. And I just remind her, 580 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,800 Like he is getting in touch with Louis, then he's 581 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,519 talking to Tippet, then he's giving orders to bucket Boy, 582 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,960 and it's like boom boom, boom boom, a million things 583 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:35,159 happening at the same time, and Dona is using her 584 00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:39,360 ability to see through like invisibility to tell them where 585 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:46,440 to aim, which is hugely helpful. But it's not, as 586 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,760 Carl puts it, They are just keeping us busy, that's 587 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,960 all it is. This isn't even like, you know, it 588 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,920 feels for us like we're fighting for our lives and 589 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,840 we are. But this isn't even like the bad part yet. 590 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,320 And he had said unleashed Tina at the end of 591 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,400 the last chapter, and I'm waiting and it still hasn't. 592 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:13,119 She's still not there. And then we get Rosetta. I 593 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:17,440 need backup. I need edifice explosion suppressed and suppression inside 594 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,599 the castle. They got to Lonnie, who do we got? 595 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:22,639 I don't care if it's not your specialty. To the 596 00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:27,840 safe room exit, And there's a dude named Hue who 597 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,199 takes off, And then there's a crawler who attempts to 598 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,840 leave and he gets got attempting to go and help Rosetta. 599 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,760 And she is the one who tells him about Wannie, 600 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,679 and she's like, he's systematically turning off the interior protections. 601 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,239 He's got a fucking warm in his head. I just 602 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,559 hate this for him. I know they volunteered to come 603 00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,480 back in. I knew that this was going like that 604 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,440 these people were going to die, a lot of them, 605 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,880 and that they knew that. But it still just sucks, 606 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,440 after everything to still die in here. I hate it. 607 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:08,880 I hate it so much. And let's see, I'm trying 608 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:15,639 to find the the here it is Lonnie knew about 609 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,159 just justice light and our last line of defense. We 610 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,280 had to get him and fast. I don't know if 611 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,679 I'm supposed to know what that means, but I don't. 612 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,639 If I'm not, that's fine, And even if i am, 613 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,239 maybe don't tell me. I don't know, but I just 614 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,119 wanted to point out, like I don't know if I'm 615 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,519 supposed to get what he's reading or or what he's 616 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:46,559 reading what he's saying here Sarah and says, Rafo, what 617 00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:53,840 is it? What does that again? Read? And find out? Right? Okay? Yeah, 618 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320 Michael says it sucks so bad for the ones that 619 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320 died before they could even fire a shot at the enemy, 620 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,840 and they came in willing to lose their lives for 621 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,480 the chance to strike a blow against someone responsible for 622 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,360 this hell hole, and they never got it exactly, Like 623 00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:11,360 everything just hasn't gone according to I'm sure the image 624 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,599 in their heads that made this worth it to them 625 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,440 to do to risk, and probably even if they had 626 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,559 known this was how it would go, they would still 627 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,280 have come. But it's just it's not fair. It's just 628 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,280 simply not fair. So this is when Donut is He 629 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,400 says something about how the compromise. Mages are what we 630 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,880 need to focus on. And Donut says, I could have 631 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,280 told you that you can smuggle them anywhere, and they 632 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,159 can crawl in your ear, kill you, and take you 633 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:46,920 over in just a few seconds. It's absolutely disgusting, but 634 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,840 they're quite good allies. When they're on your side. You 635 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360 can fit like five of them in your mouth at once. 636 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,800 Which I know that she is referencing a thing that 637 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,599 she had done, but I don't remember how it went. 638 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,840 I feel like at one point somebody described Doughnut getting 639 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,480 a scritch on the chin. That was like not a scritch, 640 00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:12,840 forgive me. It was like one of those things where 641 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,920 I saw the comment way after it had been left 642 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,320 and meant to like address it on the show, and 643 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:24,920 then completely forgot all about it, and I this just 644 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,199 reminded me of it. And I can't even recall exactly 645 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,320 what it was that is meant to have happened, but 646 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:37,119 this is clearly pointing to that. And ooh, Michael says, 647 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,159 they're all dungeons fibers, so they probably didn't have any 648 00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:40,800 illusions about what was going to happen, but it still 649 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719 makes my heart hurt for them. Exactly. Rob says, I 650 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000 can't remember it, and proceeds to remember it pretty much exactly, 651 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:52,719 but I don't remember exactly why she was bringing them inside. 652 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,679 Like I remember, it was to get it away from 653 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,559 get the show away from uh oh my god, b 654 00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,400 what's the bee guys? So for the Valletite to take it. 655 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:10,119 But I don't remember Borrent, thank you everybody, But I 656 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,400 don't remember exactly how she got in touch with him 657 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,880 or set this up or anything. So that's what I mean, 658 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,400 is more like the uh background information and exactly how 659 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,159 this worked. Ooh, Rob says, and I think it was 660 00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,239 because the Bloom is going after zev if I recall correctly, 661 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,679 and doubtless you're probably right. I didn't remember that part specifically, 662 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,719 but uh, Borrent is the company. The fish Nazi party 663 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:48,079 was the Bloom, right. So let's see a moment later, 664 00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,800 splashtwe in doctor Bones high fives. They took out an 665 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,639 invisible MRK. I just love Doctor Bones out here high fiving, 666 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,760 just to mention. And we have a bit of back 667 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:03,840 and forth here of Doughnut chatting with all of the 668 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,719 people down here in the trench, especially Splashtone about their 669 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,880 personal lives and Splash Stone, it turns out is married 670 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:17,800 to Snail Trail, which is something that I will never 671 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,440 say again in my life. And it's very fun because 672 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719 it's sort of like a light moment and Carl tries 673 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,280 to be like, can we focus please, and I'm just like, Carl, 674 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,239 I don't know if you even met like the folks 675 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,360 who work like this, but trust me when I say, 676 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,679 you can absolutely chit chat while focused as fuck. It's 677 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,960 not a problem. And obviously it is the way that 678 00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:49,719 like Doughnut copes and from the way that Splashy is reacting, 679 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,960 he copes like this also. And then we find out 680 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,960 pretty shortly that this is all part of a buff 681 00:45:56,039 --> 00:46:00,119 that Imani was giving everybody to get them so that 682 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,480 they were focused. And it's like makes you kind of 683 00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:09,159 manic acting, you know, And she says something about how 684 00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:13,320 like it doesn't seem to be affecting you, maybe because 685 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,320 of your mind focus. But then later she's like, oh, no, 686 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,159 it is affecting you. It's just all internal with Carl, 687 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,800 not chatty at all. Now, what he's focusing on here 688 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:34,880 is he we sends a message back, I'm sorry, Carl, 689 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,039 it's too dangerous. She will stay here and that's final. 690 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,320 She's just a child. You just ordered the Gnome and 691 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,679 the changeling children to stay out of the battle. So 692 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,599 why is Tina different? Now? Look, I'll be honest, y'all. 693 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:56,599 When Carl called leash Tina, I was like, really because 694 00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:01,039 I really kind of thought she was going to get 695 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,320 the same protections in exactly the way that Kiwi is saying. 696 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:11,519 And of course, why is Tina any different? Well, you know, 697 00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:17,320 she's a velociraptor. That's how she's different. So I get that, 698 00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:24,920 but I don't really, like I have been having mixed 699 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,039 feelings about keeping the kids out of this fight the 700 00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:32,199 whole time. And oh, everybody is saying she's a t rex. 701 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,840 I completely forgot. I completely forgot she's an actual t rex. 702 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,400 Uh yeah, Like, why is she any different? Is so disingenuous? 703 00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:50,480 Come now, come now, Kiwi. However, Carl is like really 704 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,119 having a moment of like struggle internally about this. He 705 00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:58,760 feels like she has a point, and maybe the fact 706 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,719 that they need Tina so bad and they're you know, 707 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,360 trying to use her in this way makes it worse, 708 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:13,960 not better. And then he says, I thought of Asher 709 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,760 of his mother hugging him after she'd poisoned our father, 710 00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,920 and he starts to write, Kiwi, she'll be fine. We 711 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,360 buffed her. She will all die if she doesn't come out. 712 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,960 And then I realized survival had more than one meaning, 713 00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:34,559 more than one meaning which I definitely respect this point 714 00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:38,000 of view, I really get it. And just as he's 715 00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:40,360 about to send a different message about like we'd have 716 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960 to push out without her, Donut just yells, get Tina 717 00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,880 out here right now, My goodness, what's taking so long. 718 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,119 Don't make me send Mango in there to drag her out. 719 00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:53,159 Do it now, And before Kiwi could even answer, someone 720 00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:56,199 to my left shouted duck as the giant doors behind 721 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,360 us flew open all the way. So this is such 722 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,920 a I this is the shame of the fact that 723 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,920 we have just been in the heat so quickly that 724 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,920 we haven't had conversations. But like Donut has had no 725 00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:18,320 problem with the children being involved. You know, she was 726 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,239 also the one that was like fine with Bonnie coming 727 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,079 on board the party planner as a scout and Louis 728 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,159 as well, and she was saying, you know, she's hundreds 729 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:36,760 of years old, it's fine, and Carl's hang up here. 730 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,039 It's like I can't decide about it. I can't decide 731 00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:47,000 if it's like understandably, if it's him clinging to an 732 00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:50,840 ideal that is just not reasonable right now, or if 733 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:57,519 this ideal is like the whole point and why doesn't 734 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,480 Doonut have that same struggle? And I think that maybe 735 00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:05,599 this will be a bit of a break between them, 736 00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:10,000 not like a break in their friendship, but him and 737 00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:14,559 Donut have been on the same page with a lot 738 00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:19,199 of big decisions and a lot of the approach to things. 739 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,199 They have had arguments about details, but in the end 740 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,559 they both seem to feel similarly on a lot and 741 00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,239 I am wondering if this is going to turn into 742 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,159 a bit of an issue that Donut is much more 743 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,880 willing to sacrifice children than Karl is and where that's 744 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,559 coming from. Exactly why is she? Because like I'm framing 745 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:50,320 it as why is she prepared to sacrifice children? Making 746 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,559 it sound as if we're just putting the children on 747 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:58,719 a fucking guillotine. But they are in PCs, and that 748 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,440 is not meant to be Oh, they're just NPCs, But 749 00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:05,280 what I mean is because of that, they are much 750 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,760 older than they look, and I feel like maybe they 751 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,119 get to have some agency in all this. Maybe treating 752 00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:20,000 them like children is unfair to them because you just, 753 00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:24,559 you know, leave them as sitting ducks and they don't 754 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,159 what happens to them in the end anyway, if other 755 00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:33,320 people die and they get if our side loses, then 756 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:39,960 they die anyway. So is it more kind to let 757 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:46,599 them participate in something that is so awful but make 758 00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:53,320 their own choice, or is it more fairer to protect 759 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,159 them and treat them like actual children. I don't know, 760 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:02,119 because I don't I haven't spoken to these NPCs enough 761 00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:04,280 to be able to tell what's going on in their 762 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,079 head and how they feel about certain things. And uh, yeah, 763 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:18,159 I don't know. Rob says, Apart from the significant moral issue, 764 00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:19,920 part of the reason why we prosecute and have war 765 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,800 crimes is that it makes our enemies less likely to 766 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,679 resort to similar or more likely to surrender than fight 767 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,960 to the death. Given that the other side doesn't really 768 00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:29,719 have children in the equation, it's somewhat asymmetrical, which is 769 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,360 a real albatross around the crawler's necks. Yeah, and it's 770 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,639 just like the lack of clarity around are like how 771 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,360 much like children are these quote children? Really is a 772 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,079 particular spot to me that I keep getting hung up 773 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:54,400 on because if they are remembering previous crawls, if they 774 00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:01,199 are sort of awakened enough to really understand what's happening, 775 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,679 and that previous experience is compounding in their minds in 776 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,960 the way that experience adds up to more agency as 777 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:16,639 a person. That's what age is, right, It's that you 778 00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:20,159 have lived through enough and your brain has developed to 779 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,239 a certain point and you can start to make you 780 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,760 can start to make choices with like more of a 781 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,280 comprehensive understanding what the consequences of those choices will be. 782 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,840 And it's just really tough to say here. I really 783 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,039 don't know. I like, honestly, if I'm being real with 784 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:47,880 you guys, practically speaking, of course, let the kids fight 785 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,960 if we're just going to be practical. But I don't 786 00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,519 want to just be practical with this. I actually really 787 00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:57,119 do want to think about the ethics of it. And 788 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:01,280 I kind of think that I come down on donut 789 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,079 side anyway. I think that it is like as NPCs, 790 00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:10,039 there's just a whole different thing going on with them, 791 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:14,079 and treating them as you would regular human children isn't 792 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,960 accurate likely, you know, like, I just think it's probably 793 00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:24,760 not really what they're like, and I think maybe this 794 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,039 a lot of this is coming from Carl's own baggage, 795 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:33,199 having to like see and experience horrible shit as when 796 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,480 he was very young, and he's just trying to keep 797 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:41,079 that from happening to other kids, which is totally admirable. 798 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,239 But they aren't normal, you know, They're just it's a 799 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:54,599 very special specific case here, So I don't know. I 800 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,599 kind of flip flap back and forth, but I feel 801 00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:02,000 like I come down on Donut side mostly, not entirely. 802 00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:07,480 It's not I feel like I could be argued either 803 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:13,440 way if it were compelling enough, but uh. Sarah Fim says, 804 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,599 I'd sigh mostly but Donuts so long as the kid 805 00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:19,119 wants to fight and isn't being forced. Rob says, interestingly, 806 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,719 I'd side with Carl. Henry says Donut's a child, so 807 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,440 she sees no problem with other kids fighting like she does. 808 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,760 Saraphim says, give said kids a job that lets them 809 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,760 help while keeping them as far from the front line 810 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,519 as plausible. It's just tina as well a fucking t rex. 811 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,800 Rob says, the NPCs are facing a genocide, so I 812 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,039 wouldn't begrudge them fighting, but also I don't think I 813 00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:43,960 could order them slash use them as soldiers willingly. That's 814 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,039 the thing, is like, it's not just I will let 815 00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:53,519 you fight. He is saying, unleash Tina like she's a weapon, 816 00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,920 which she is, but it is very dehumanizing. She's not human, 817 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:07,880 but she's a person. But you know, I don't know, 818 00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:13,760 I I don't know. And it's interesting as well that 819 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,760 when Donut is just like, get her out here, she 820 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,599 shows up immediately, and it doesn't seem that Kiwi is 821 00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:23,840 trying to argue with Donut at all. She's just trying 822 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,559 to argue with Carl. Later, Donut says something about the 823 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,599 fact that we need to talk to everybody about the 824 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:34,119 fact that they're not like just obeying our orders right away, 825 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:42,280 and hm, god, it's just Donuts really on a track here. 826 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:47,360 It's interesting to see her begin to be like, no, 827 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,559 we have to be organized, and you guys have to 828 00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:53,679 fucking listen. I shouldn't have to repeat myself. I mean, 829 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,119 I don't think that's unfair. You're a warlord and we're 830 00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:02,039 in war, and yet I was just like, damn, Donut, 831 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:10,159 you know, so Tina comes out and literally just like 832 00:57:11,199 --> 00:57:14,840 chomps on this invisible spot that causes a guy to 833 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960 explode because he had been setting up some sort of gun. 834 00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:25,280 He was invisible again, and this is when Donut jumps on. 835 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,599 Mom goes back. She uses her headset and she lands 836 00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:33,119 on the says landing atop the front of the castle 837 00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:40,880 behind us, just above the door, and she shot. She shouts, God, Comrades, 838 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,760 there are over one hundred bad guys on the other 839 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,760 side of that building. They think they can just drop 840 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,199 out of the sky and land in our base. Some 841 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,159 of them are warmheads who killed our friends. Are we 842 00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:53,159 going to let that stand? I don't think so. We 843 00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:55,320 got to kill them, and we gotta do it fast. 844 00:57:55,679 --> 00:57:58,440 Alpha Squad card reserves to the roof. Everyone else with 845 00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:00,880 cards saved them for the main four. Let's show these 846 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,719 cheese sticks what the Princess Posse does to trespassers. Tina 847 00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:09,280 sick em all around me. Cheers rose as everyone jumped 848 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,559 to their feet and started to shout. I exchanged a 849 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:17,920 look with Amani, who was staring at Donut open mouthed. Comrades, 850 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,599 She's been hanging out with Rosetta too much. The warnl 851 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:25,639 lored thing suits her. Imani said she sounded a little sad. 852 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:30,039 I felt it too. Tina finally noticed the mass of 853 00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,519 enemies at the bottom of the hill, who had started 854 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:35,360 to panic fire their weapons at her. One of the 855 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,599 shields on her fizzled out, then another, The giant Alisaurus 856 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:43,840 waved her wand indignantly let out a howl, and she 857 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:47,760 surged down the hill, her pink tutu flapping in the wind. 858 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:53,719 For the posse, Donut roared and as one we charged. 859 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:06,679 So yeah, I just don't know. Look, if Tina dies, 860 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,719 which is certainly possible, I'll be interested to see donuts 861 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:22,320 reaction to that. I don't know. I really this is 862 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,519 such an odd question, and it's just a it's a 863 00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,320 much more loaded question than it would be in a 864 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,880 real Earth war with Earth regular children, you know, where 865 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:43,960 it's very simply absolutely the funck not. But you know, 866 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,719 there's also going to be times where it's like, if 867 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,320 one person could sneak through this pipe and set this trap, 868 00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:56,320 we could solve this entire problem. But the pipe is 869 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:02,199 too big for an adult, you know, Like, there's a 870 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,440 lot of horrible scenarios that I can think of that 871 01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,719 would make it seem like we have no choice. And 872 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,559 that's the question, is like, you always have a choice, 873 01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:15,400 it's just one of the choices is shitty. That's not 874 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:22,119 the same. Is it not existing? But where is Carl's obligation? 875 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,480 How much does he need to like maintain his belief 876 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:37,679 in the humanity of the NPCs and prioritize that above dissolve, Like, 877 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,920 what's the word I want? I was about to say dissolve, 878 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,119 but that's not the word I want. How much does 879 01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:54,440 he prioritize that above potentially losing what is worth sacrificing. 880 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,960 It's more than about the kids, It's about a precedent. 881 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,599 You know. I just can't decide how I feel about it, guys, 882 01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:12,320 I really can't. I don't know anyway, I you, guys. 883 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,800 I'm like, I just know we're gonna be seeing some 884 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,000 deaths of people that I like. I'm really thinking that. Like, 885 01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:24,840 Emani's on the chocoling block, and it's been such a 886 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,800 weird journey with her where I have never disliked her 887 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,039 or anything, but she has been so standoffish for so 888 01:01:33,159 --> 01:01:35,559 long that I feel like I'm just starting to get 889 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:40,400 to know her and growing to really like her. And 890 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,440 of course, like her abilities are so helpful and I 891 01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,199 really don't want to say goodbye to her. It could 892 01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:51,599 be Ellie. We haven't seen her a lot. It feels 893 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,280 like she's kind of been out in the mix a 894 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:59,599 lot more. I won't even consider Donut. I don't think 895 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,679 Matt didn't him in would do it. I honestly, this 896 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,679 is one of those things where it's like, if he 897 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,679 killed Carl, what a choice that would be? Can you 898 01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:16,960 imagine like if he actually I'm not talking about like, oh, 899 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,280 a near death now, I'm talking about like dead and 900 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:26,199 the series ends without Carl kind of rad Actually, however, 901 01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:32,480 I just there's no way doning. It's simply not an option. 902 01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:34,079 I just don't see it. And I don't mean this 903 01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,960 as like I would never tolerate it. I mean, as 904 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:42,000 an author, it's suicide, right like you just can't it's 905 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:48,440 not no anyway. All Right, I gotta wrap up. Thank 906 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,079 you guys again for coming, Appreciate you, and until next 907 01:02:51,079 --> 01:03:23,880 time to the lum motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled Network 908 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:24,559 past