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<v Speaker 1>Free speech is officially dead in California, as the state

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<v Speaker 1>legislature this week passed the Stop Nick Shirley Act and

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<v Speaker 1>made it a crime for investigative journalists to post video

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of fraud on the Internet, and they even amended the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill to target journalists.

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<v Speaker 1>All this went down as a Democratic staffer to a

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<v Speaker 1>state Assembly member viciously attacked Nick Shirley outside of the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the video to show you, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to walk through just how bad this bill is. But

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<v Speaker 1>we also need your help to fight to block this bill.

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<v Speaker 1>All that and more coming up. But the problem I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having with this is that this is conduct unbecoming of

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<v Speaker 1>a representative of the state legislature. This is a government

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<v Speaker 1>employee paid for by your taxpayer money. I'm Carl Demo,

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<v Speaker 1>chairman of Reform California and California State legislator, and for

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<v Speaker 1>months I've been warning about a really bad bill in

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<v Speaker 1>the State Assembly Assembly, Bill twenty six twenty four from

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<v Speaker 1>Mia Banta, the wife of California Attorney General Rob Bonta.

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<v Speaker 2>This bill I nicknamed the Stop Nick Shirley Act.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I nicknamed it the Stop Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Shirley act is that it was inspired by him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>After Nick Shirley captured video evidence of all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>fraud happening by government contractors and grantees in other states

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<v Speaker 1>and came to California and did the same thing, Mia

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<v Speaker 1>Banta decided, you know, we don't want these citizen journalists

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<v Speaker 1>showing up and going into our contractors and our grantees,

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<v Speaker 1>most of whom are campaign contributors, by the way, or

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<v Speaker 1>political organizations that helped turn out the Democrat vote. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't want them showing up and realizing that the contracts

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<v Speaker 1>in grants were giving them are phony and they were

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<v Speaker 1>just basically funding politics. So we need to make it

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<v Speaker 1>illegal to show up and record evidence of fraud. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make it illegal for them to post these

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<v Speaker 1>videos on the internet to create a public uproar and

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<v Speaker 1>to shine a light on what is actually happening with

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer money.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, in essence, what Assembly Built twenty six twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four does. Makes it a crime for.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone to take a video of these contractors getting your

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer money, take a video of any activity that they're

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in in public. Okay, it's not like you're going

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<v Speaker 1>inside their private home and videotaping them in their shower. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what they're doing in public, whether it's they're running

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<v Speaker 1>a daycare with no kids, or operating hospices in a

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<v Speaker 1>building with no patients, or organizing.

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<v Speaker 2>Political rallies with taxpayer money. If you capture any of

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<v Speaker 2>that on video.

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<v Speaker 1>And post it to the internet, you've broken the law.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the requirements the new provisions under AB twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six twenty four. So I nicknamed it the stop Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Surely Act. And Democrats are furious because when we are

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<v Speaker 1>able to brand a bill in the most simple terms

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<v Speaker 1>and bring public outrage in controversy to a bill that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to ram through the process, they say that

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<v Speaker 1>we are doing something wrong, that we're not operating with decorum.

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<v Speaker 2>Decorum, are you joking me? So let me walk through

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<v Speaker 2>two video clips.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Democrats passed the stop Nick Surely Act, first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, they said that my nickname for the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>the stop Nick Surely Act, was not speaking with decorum,

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<v Speaker 1>and so while they were standing on the floor saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're not limiting free speech, they decided to.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut off my microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>I was arguing against the bill, walking through various provisions,

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<v Speaker 1>making my case as to why they should vote no,

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<v Speaker 1>why this was a bad bill.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the state legislature. I'm elected by five hundred thousand residents.

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<v Speaker 1>My job is to be their voice. And what the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats did on the floor when I rose in opposition

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<v Speaker 1>to AB twenty six twenty four is they violated my

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<v Speaker 1>free speech rights, my duty to speak on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>my constituents as to why we don't support this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>They cut off my microphone when they did this.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats did this to a main state representative because the

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<v Speaker 1>state representative didn't want to use personal pronouns of another

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<v Speaker 1>legislator that were not biologically correct.

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<v Speaker 2>She sued, and the Supreme Court sided.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Republican legislature legislator and told them, Democrats, you

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<v Speaker 1>are violating free speech rules. And I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you right now, if they keep this bad behavior

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<v Speaker 1>up on the floor, I will sue the Democrats supermajority

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<v Speaker 1>in the state Legislature because I have a job to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be their voice.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the clip of them cutting me off repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 1>or or she's misrepresenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Decorum. This bill came about in response me, mister Demyo,

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<v Speaker 2>you may continue, mister Demio, as I was saying, as

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<v Speaker 2>nicknamed the Nick Shirley.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, mister Demayo is not nickname that has not

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<v Speaker 3>been Excuse me, mister Mayo, just wait a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you as something. Remember Wilson, your point is well taken.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna move on now.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my you know, my my basic message out

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<v Speaker 1>uh in in my speech, but they still did limit

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<v Speaker 1>my time and they shut down debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And that is the violation.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are the same people clutching their pearls saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven forbid, we're not trying to stop free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The backers of the bill say that the Stop Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Shirley Act is designed to stop people from threatening various

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<v Speaker 1>employees of a government contractor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me share with you the.

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<v Speaker 1>Final version of the bill, and there's an amendment here.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that section two says that a person who

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<v Speaker 1>puts a video up with the intent to incite a

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<v Speaker 1>third person to cause imminent bodily harm or threaten a

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<v Speaker 1>program participant. That that's what the bill is all about,

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<v Speaker 1>Section two right here. And they put this language in

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what they were verbally saying the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's good that they put that language in because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody should be threatened. And by the way, we already

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<v Speaker 1>have laws on the books in California.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need AB.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty six twenty four to stop make sure Lyact to

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<v Speaker 1>stop people from threatening someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Else with violence.

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<v Speaker 1>They're ample laws to allow people to go and get

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<v Speaker 1>a restraining order and protect themselves. You don't need this

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<v Speaker 1>language because it's already in state law. But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they amended the bill to say. See, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. Well, actually not, that's what they're putting

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<v Speaker 1>in the bill to show the media. Let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>the actual sanction on a citizen journalist in court. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts with Section one. A program participant or individual organization

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, one of these left wing political groups

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<v Speaker 1>can make a written demand to a person Nick Shirley

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<v Speaker 1>not to take their video and publicly post or display

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<v Speaker 1>it or distribute it or disclose.

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<v Speaker 2>It on the Internet. Okay, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Section one basically says if you have an NGO, a

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<v Speaker 1>Somali leering center, a daycare center that's not actually providing

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<v Speaker 1>childcare services, he captures Nick Sualley captures this video. If

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<v Speaker 1>that participant says, don't post that video, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they all say.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to tape record, when in fact, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a public space, you're absolutely allowed to tape record.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what citizen journalism is all about. That's what Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Surley is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's showing up at their place of business these tape

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<v Speaker 1>recording the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That there are no kids at the daycare.

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<v Speaker 1>If the scammer, the fraudster says, you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>post that video. You got me dead to rights, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not allowed if you post that video, if

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<v Speaker 1>you blow the whistle, if you show the evidence to

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<v Speaker 1>the public and create public outcry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm suing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Item one says not anything about a threat. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>posting a video with the fraudster saying don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>Item four is the sanction a program participant whose personal

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<v Speaker 1>information or image video is made public as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of a failure to honor the demand made pursuant to

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<v Speaker 1>paragraph one. Okay, so paragraph one is this. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>the fraudster saying don't post it. Has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with paragraph two the threats. It all relates to the

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<v Speaker 1>fraudster saying don't post the video.

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<v Speaker 2>Paragraph one, No threats have to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>In order for the citizen journalists to be barred under

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<v Speaker 1>the Stop Nick Shirley Act from posting a video online.

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<v Speaker 1>Any individual is authorized to.

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<v Speaker 2>Seek conjuncture and injunctive relief in court against Nick Shirley.

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<v Speaker 1>Or another citizen journalist, and then they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be charged all these fees penalties.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the language.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is not a debate about what the bill does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just giving you word for word what it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with making threats against people. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us agree no one should be threatened with

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<v Speaker 1>physical violence. That's not what section B one and section

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<v Speaker 1>four of the Stop Nick Shirley Act under Statute six'

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<v Speaker 1>two one eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine that's not what this bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it Stops Nick shirley from posting video evidence of,

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<v Speaker 1>fraud right there in Plain. English now here's the even

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<v Speaker 1>worst part about. This see this little line here that

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<v Speaker 1>they struck this. Subdivision you, know penalizing people for posting

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<v Speaker 1>videos shall not apply to a person or entity defined

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<v Speaker 1>in section ten to seventy of The Evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Code what is section ten seventy of The Evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Code it's something called The California Shield. Act it protects

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<v Speaker 1>journalists from being hauled into court and ordered to do

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<v Speaker 1>things like reveal their. Sources by striking this line, out

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<v Speaker 1>The Stop Nick Shirley act actually got worse in the

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<v Speaker 1>final moments of passage because now they're saying even journalists

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<v Speaker 1>are not given the shield against this. Law and The

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<v Speaker 1>democrats literally made the bill worse against.

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<v Speaker 2>Free speech in the freedom of the. Press this is. Bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as this all went down.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside The, Capitol Nick shirley was trying to interview, people, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>hey what's your view on The Stop Nick Shirley. Act

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to talk to, legislators and A democratic

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<v Speaker 1>staffer Named Terry schantz who works For democrat extremist Member tina.

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<v Speaker 2>Mckinner, boy she is a looney.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune he came out and Accosted Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>Shirley And i'm just going to play a little sample

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<v Speaker 2>of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Clip the full harassment Against Nick shirley, was you, know

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<v Speaker 1>three four minutes. Long, Now Nick sureley is a big, Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>okay he Can he's got tough, Skin he's not phased by.

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<v Speaker 1>This but the Problem i'm having with this is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is conduct unbecoming of a representative of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Legislature this is a government employee paid for by your taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 1>money during the work hours of the, day coming up

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<v Speaker 1>interrupting another legislator's comments or interview with a, journalist which

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<v Speaker 1>is never. Done you don't go as a staff, member

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<v Speaker 1>you don't interrupt a. Legislator the legislator that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see in just a moment Is Joe, patterson great,

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<v Speaker 1>guy by the, way very common, sense A republican being

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed on The Nick Shirley. Act this democratic aff for

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<v Speaker 1>interrupts the, interview starts harassing even the legislator, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>acts like a complete.

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<v Speaker 2>Moron.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and this is conduct unbecoming that he should be,

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<v Speaker 1>reprimanded if not terminated from his.

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<v Speaker 2>Job watch This nick for. You do you think her

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<v Speaker 2>creating a bill that.

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<v Speaker 1>This Is Joe patterson being interviewed by a journalist right outside.

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<v Speaker 2>The capitol basically?

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<v Speaker 3>Illegal give someone a four thousand dollars fine for looking

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<v Speaker 3>at immigration supports service?

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<v Speaker 2>Riders do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys hear That Nick shirley has a small piece Allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay so he's saying That Nick shirley has a small

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<v Speaker 1>anatomical part in the lower, region but a. Child just

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<v Speaker 1>it's so. Embarrassing come, on your taxpayer money is paying

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<v Speaker 2>Crap that's so adult of.

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<v Speaker 3>You did you hear about this has a Small, WELL

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<v Speaker 3>i don't.

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<v Speaker 2>KNOW i just this is what they're. Reporting have you seen?

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<v Speaker 2>This the reports are.

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<v Speaker 3>Reporting, well we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know prove me.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong i'm.

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<v Speaker 2>NOT i don't do that. Wrong it's good to The Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>KIRK i don't want to do. That well you.

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<v Speaker 3>CONSENT i mean we are In. California they do SUPPORT

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<v Speaker 3>i think you're over. Eighteen so there are news reports

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<v Speaker 3>happening That Nick suirley has a small. Piece do you

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<v Speaker 3>have any comment On Nick SUIRLEY'S i think allegedly allegedly here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's risky for him to be out. Here he could

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<v Speaker 2>be banned or. Criminalized you, know actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Having a small, piece is that a? Criminal you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>introduce that legislation and. Something, remember, hey look at you

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<v Speaker 3>to live at fat they even look at, It so

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<v Speaker 3>you should work on that before you alege somebody else

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<v Speaker 3>about Your, hey, gentlemen have you guys heard these public

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<v Speaker 3>Reports nick surely allegedly has a small there's an investigation going.

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<v Speaker 3>On if you like, there you, go thank you so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much i'm doing just. Fine to see years you have

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<v Speaker 2>to literally look at a flag of. FAT i don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About, nick you literally have you literally have to go

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<v Speaker 3>like this at your change look at.

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<v Speaker 1>You, well it's a grown.

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<v Speaker 2>MAN i MEAN i don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>This i'm not the recording on me having a small. Oy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay so so this altercation occurs outside the. CAPITOL i

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<v Speaker 1>want to introduce you to another element of attack on free.

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<v Speaker 1>Speech so, first the bill ITSELF abe twenty six to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four is a complete attack on free speech because,

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<v Speaker 1>well it makes it a crime for a citizen journalist

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<v Speaker 1>to post video online of.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad activity and let the people decide that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Attacking free. Speech it goes after journalists now by removing

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<v Speaker 1>the shield law provision from The Evidence code as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to enforceability of The Nick Shirly.

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<v Speaker 2>Act so it goes after the freedom of the. Press

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<v Speaker 2>then they.

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<v Speaker 1>Censor my comments on the, floor not allowing me to

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<v Speaker 1>speak in opposition to a, bill and they don't like

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<v Speaker 1>WHAT i have to, say so they're just gonna trump my.

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<v Speaker 1>Microphone but there's another element of attack on free speech

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<v Speaker 1>that democrats engage in all the, time and that is

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<v Speaker 1>what we call The heckler's. Veto Heckler, so when you

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<v Speaker 1>show up and you don't want someone to, speak so

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<v Speaker 1>you scream them, down you shout them, down you interrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>them you interfere with their ability to give their. Comments that,

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<v Speaker 1>is you, know it's not illegal from the standpoint of you,

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<v Speaker 1>know someone can show up and yell and, scream but

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly limits someone else's ability to express themselves and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard The heckler's. Veto and by the, way The heckler's

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<v Speaker 2>veto and.

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<v Speaker 1>Free speech is used to remove people from public hearings

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<v Speaker 1>when they disrupt the. Hearings so if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a city council meeting and people are like acting poorly

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<v Speaker 1>and they're yelling and screaming and drowning out the council

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<v Speaker 1>members or drowning out of their public, testimony they can

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<v Speaker 1>legally be removed from a public hearing that everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>a right to attend.

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<v Speaker 2>Because, they in essence are infringing on the free speech

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<v Speaker 2>rights of.

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<v Speaker 1>Others and so when you go out to a street

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<v Speaker 1>corner and you start screaming and yelling at.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone it's a gray.

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<v Speaker 1>Area BUT i would consider this again not respecting free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rights i've always told my, supporters If democrats want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a press, conference don't show up and crash. It

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up and scream and yell in front of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them let them say their, piece and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>hold your own press. Conference that's how free speech. Works

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<v Speaker 1>someone gets to say one, thing another person gets to

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<v Speaker 1>say another. Thing but not in The Democrat party Of.

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<v Speaker 1>California these people are. Extremists they do not want you

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<v Speaker 1>to have freedom of. Speech, AGAIN i can disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>what someone is going to, say BUT i will defend

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<v Speaker 1>their right to say. It one last POINT i want to,

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<v Speaker 1>make and this is for any of My assembly colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>that might be watching this, video because many of them,

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<v Speaker 1>do because they complain on the floor ABOUT i saw

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<v Speaker 1>a podcaster the other day say. This i'm, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>she watches my.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast how INTERESTING i live rent. Free in some of their,

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<v Speaker 2>minds it's so. Sad BUT i will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>THIS i do not interrupt my colleagues with parliamentary procedures

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<v Speaker 1>and motions while they're. SPEAKING i might make emotion after

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<v Speaker 1>they're done, speaking BECAUSE i find it absolutely abhorrent and,

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<v Speaker 1>unacceptable unprofessional and in violation of our decorum to interrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>someone even if you disagree with what they're, saying and

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<v Speaker 1>even if they're attacking someone. Else you know, what let

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<v Speaker 1>them say they're a piece and then make your point

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<v Speaker 1>of order, afterwards because you can make the point that

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<v Speaker 1>what they said about another colleague was lacking, decorum and

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<v Speaker 1>then you put, it you, know you, know you put it.

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<v Speaker 2>On record and you admonish the. Person but every member.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the, legislature even IF i disagree with, them they

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<v Speaker 1>have a right to represent their five hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Constituents The democrats have the votes in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Legislature now they're trying to deprive us of our voice

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<v Speaker 1>by stopping us in the middle of our, speeches or

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<v Speaker 1>by heckling someone on a street corner just trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>interviews or even, worse by passing The Stop Nick Shirley

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<v Speaker 1>Act Ab twenty six twenty four to make it illegal

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<v Speaker 1>for them to post video content on the. INTERNET i

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<v Speaker 1>want to let you know real, quick before our time is.

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<v Speaker 2>Up how do we stop To Stop Nick Shirley. Act

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<v Speaker 2>how do we block.

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<v Speaker 1>It, well now it goes to the governor And newsom

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<v Speaker 1>has Until october first to sign or veto the.

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<v Speaker 2>Legislation this is so. Repugnant this bill is so. Illegal

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<v Speaker 2>it's an.

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<v Speaker 1>Unconstitutional bill THAT i Think newsom might not sign it

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<v Speaker 1>because he's running for.

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<v Speaker 2>President it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Embarrassing so we need to raise the public outcry even higher. Nationally,

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<v Speaker 1>now we got to spread the word that The Stop

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Shirley act is On newsom's DESK ab twenty, six

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and that we're urging him to veto.

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<v Speaker 2>It we need to make it painful For newsom to

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<v Speaker 2>even try to sign this. Legislation make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Messy and that's Why i'm urging you like this, video

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<v Speaker 1>share this video so we can expand the reach of

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<v Speaker 1>this controversy because people need to know what's been going

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<v Speaker 1>on and why this is not just About Stop Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Shirley this is About democrats do not, do not respect

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<v Speaker 1>or want to defend your free speech. Rights all their

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<v Speaker 1>bad behavior on display is quite. Clear there's a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Here but we need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Raise our voices and Pressure newsome to not sign the,

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<v Speaker 1>bill and, then if, necessary if he signs, It we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to, court, baby because this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A blatantly unconstitutional. Law it needs to be challenged and.

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<v Speaker 1>Overturned go onto the Website Reform california dot. Org chip

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<v Speaker 1>in a, contribution sign up as a. Volunteer we have

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<v Speaker 1>an election coming up and we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone off the couch into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight and of, course our Plain english voter guide will

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<v Speaker 1>you know all the ballot measures and what they, do

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<v Speaker 1>all the candidates for Supporting check it Out Reform california dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Org until next, Time I'm Carl, tomio chairman Of Reform

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<v Speaker 1>california and A california state. Representative thanks for watching AND

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