Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome back to Tras. Told
you my name is Tras. Now as I check, oh
my god, the microphones and not even plugged and hang on,
there we go. Now I sound nice and beautiful. My goodness,
didn't have the music ready, didn't have the micro readay,
literally right before I was gonna go on airs, like,
oh make sure you check the mic fucking stream yard.
You know, I was just talking about this Chris Balga,
great service, but me and David, because David the same thing.
One of his kids play with the micro but they
always kicking us back to the microphone we don't want
to use. But uh, yes, I am here now to
talk about some stuff. I haven't been back in a
little bit for trust. Told you. Also, I came back
in February, miss March. I guess just a month. But
I will now try to get back to at least
consistently once a month. March was just very hectic. The
next little while is gonna be hectic, so I can't
always promise that, but you know what, I like to
try and get here, like I said, at least once
a month to chat and rant and maybe share a
couple of my thoughts and things that I don't want
to bore the other geeks with, you know, stuff like that.
But I hope everyone out there is doing well. Let
me just tell everybody, tell everybody that I am up
right now. But yeah, no, it's been it's been a
good I guess what since I've been back, been over
a month now because it was February March, so two
months now. So it's been actually going pretty well. I've
been trying to find a good bounce between myself, kids, life,
all that jazz. Let's see, Sorry, I got a no
vacation I thought was news. It was something that let's see,
we'll both release Zelda and Godzilla X Kong three, both
at least on the same day. Interesting, I know which
I will be there because I've I've rid myself of
the Kong franchise. Go check out Dylan and Taylor's review.
But I'm done with that franchise. Speaking of time management, right,
so yeah, no, it's been pretty good. I think I've
managed it pretty well. The only thing which is fine
because we're not doing much filming, is like the filming side,
I've had a really tough time putting aside time to
edit because it takes a lot to set up. I
got and edit I mean our films. I got two
computers set up, and the second one is longer. It's
definitely there's a lot of dialogue and there's a lot
of things to sparse through. There's lots of different takes,
whether it's just different motives we went through, or you know, bloopers,
the blooper real Its gonna be fantastic. But that's taken long.
But the good thing is, as I announced what was it,
I think a couple of weeks ago, when we and
we just want another one. So we've won seven out
of our film festivals, so that's pretty good, hoping to
I'm being greedy by saying I hope to get double
digits because I think we got thirteen left and then
we'll stop there. But I'd love to get the double
digits lores. But even then, I'm, like I said, I'm
being greedy. I just wanted us to win something, and
we have one multiple things, which is great. And that's
why with Adrenochrome, it's still the idea was to be
out this year for release, but I don't know if
that's that's not happening. I think I've said that's one
hundred sent not happening because there's just some festivals that
going next year, so that's going to delay the release
of the second film, so it gives a little more time.
But that's been the hardest because I like to sit
down and that's not at least writing. I do always
try to do a page day that's easy, like okay,
set aside, fifteen to twenty five. Here we go. The editing.
I like to be sit down, locked down for like
multiple i'd say three to four hours. And sometimes if
I'm just dead tired, I don't want to edit then
because I just don't want to go on the product.
And there's many times we're busy here at Geek First.
So that's been the hardest part. But on that life
is good. Twins are good growing. But to be five
months this month, which is fucking crazy, means a half
year soon. But yeah, life's going good. And you know
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Even though I did say I had the big comeback,
did the trast told you. I've been looking into it,
and my my results have been because obviously in the
past year before the Twins, I moved. Not many people
know where I live now you know my employers and
just the podcasting people, and I talked about that. You know,
when I was originally announceding my return, I was attacked,
put on the shelf for a little bit, wasn't gonna
come back, but you know, decided I gotta, I gotta
keep this channel going, gotta I gotta come back for
you the people, because you, like I said, people turned
me around. I thought everyone hated me, want me going,
always gone, showed me love, So I appreciate, right, and
I've been looking at everybody hired a p I that
cost a pretty penny, especially during tax sison. But at
least it was a write off because the police they're
they're not helped me out at all. Uh looked into
mister Muss because of when I was watching. You can
even see there's a couple of comps here in the end.
He said, Oh, I'm kind of over this stuff with
the February first stuff, right, So I was like, Eh,
would that be somebody? Is he just over what I'm
doing in general? So he wanted to take me out,
but I have had it confirmed he was in Vancouver,
so he did not. But I thought there's motives, like
I said, because that maybe there's some Gauntlet stuff. Me
and him were chairmans together and there was some tension there.
Maybe one day when I beat him for the title,
I didn't shake his hand. I wasn't sure right, but
he's good. Mister Patzer was the next one, because I
thought the whole time, you can watch those episodes when
I was gone and he was egging me on. He
was trying to get me on the cast, call me
on stuff like that, and I thought, what a good
kind of cover to be like, oh yeah, he won
tru Us on the podcast, but then he would take
me out, but no him. He was with family out
of town as well, so that was an A. And
then there's mister Field Taylor, who stacked me many times, right,
and it's usually been it's it's just like the Freddy
Kouger keeps coming back, so he should be the guy
because of where he works. I have a confirm that
he was video camera somewhere, not location, So I don't know.
I don't know who Taylor is probably paid off. I
don't know what he has done because everybody else that
I know that Noa's address would not be attacked, but
would not attack me. I know that without a shadow
of doubt. There are people I care about, people I love,
so no one would do that. So I just have
to kind of assume it's Sayler Field. Now I will
tell everybody that this week me and him are hosting
hosting weekly Geek together, and I have let him known
what I'm about to do. But he's gonna have an answer,
he said for me, I have decided in my time
off and even now I've grown as a person and
I can't be doing these scuffles. I got five kids,
two baby twins. I can't I can't begetting the weeds.
I can't be doing this stuff right. So this go around,
not saying any match, not challenged to fight, not looking
for revenge. My lawyers have served him papers, and I
just believe that he is possible for this. I'm going
to still look into bank accounts and may look into
phone calls, texts, but I have hit him with a
lawsuit and I want him to step down, and at
least for now while this investigation's going to give him
give us all his Geek for shares because he can't
be trusted. I know he had something to do with this.
So he says he's gonna have an answer for me
during Weekly Geek we host together. You know, I do
this contracttionly obligated. We've signed it where you have a partnership.
We're four way quarters shared. But so I do it
for you, the fans. But I take no pleasure in
having to still work with this man who I'm pretty
sure tried to get me out of this podcast forever.
So we'll see the other the rest of the week goes.
But that's what I'm doing. I'm being the bigger person
no longer I'm putting the fist down. I'm a grown
adult now. I can't be risking my body out there
because last match, my god, if you watched when I
jumped off that tree, I don't know if I talked
about this left leg like it was worth it because
I won the match and I took them out. My
left leg was focked four weeks and it was like fine,
Like I landed on it felt like get hurt, but
then it was fine. For the whole day. It was good.
And then when I woke up it was real bad.
So my body getting old. It's gonna be thirty two
in a couple months. Can't be doing this. So we
went with the lawyer a way, Tayorfield, wait for your response,
but to talk about just a one topic today, kind
of a sprawling thing, but one topic in general, because yeah,
we got lots of we got a newscast this week
Weekly Geek, and that's what I've said before, Tress told
you primarily will be in the future, just kind of
one topic because we cover so much news now, the
wrestling stuff. Check out the gimmick coming back this weekend
has its own feed now, so that's really good. Can't
wait we're wrestling any season. We got the draft coming up,
we got wrestling and predictions, Dynasty reviewed, then we're reviewing
restling night one, Night two. There's gonna be lots of
wrestling stuff and then it maybe go bi weekly. We're
doing a GM mode season two. We'll be having those
videos come out so you can see season one if
you don't want to watch the whole seven eight hour stream.
Tons of fun there. But so want to talk about
Minecraft because is this is where I said it many
times right where I don't know when the shift happened.
I think it was probably probably was flash right twenty
twenty three it was I feel like that's the year,
and I'll bring it up. Well, I forgot to bring
up my case here, but there's a few things I
want to talk about here twenty twenty two top box
office films, so that will go into it. I'm bad
podcast or didn't have it open there we go worldwide
box office. Thank you box office Mojo this time. Usually
I use the numbers because Brent is right, it's a
better site, but just they have a better kind of
look at where multiple histories have been for the box office.
But what I'm getting at here is since probably twenty
twenty three, the box office has surprised me. I feel
like I used to do, god, I think their first
three talking about our ten year the first three years
I used to do like traps at the theater. So
I used to make like a when I had time,
a little photoshop, like what I thought the box office
would do that weekend, because I was very much in
the box. I was because I just like seeing the
business and that talks about the trends, right, what's hot,
what's not, et cetera. And I feel like if you
go back from the start to about then my tracking
was pretty good. Like to me, I feel like, maybe
I'm blowing myself too much, but I think I could
be eighty eighty five percent accurate as far as hey,
that's performing, well, that's gonna bomb, et cetera. Right, we
all have our ones that were wrong about but still
I was pretty good at We're twenty twenty three and on.
I've never not never, but I feel like I'm way
more unshaky. There's things that you can tell me. Like
I've said this before, I do not think Superman will bomb,
which will come up again this conversation. But you could
tell me that you know, someone comes down for the future,
it's James Gunn back at Marvel directing Guardens for and
say yeah, Superman Bomb. So I had to come back.
I wouldn't not believe it. You know. That's the thing.
There's so many movies where even like Minecraft right that
came out this week, and crazy stuff, And this is
where even tracking and stuff is so unreliable. Nowadays, this
works probably most of the time it does work, but
I think now more than ever, when it's off, it's off.
Was tracking for a fifty five to fifty opening week,
and domestically right, Minecraft open one hundred and thirty nearly
did one hundred million more than the tracking. That's fucking nuts.
And now which I'm excited to bust say his balls
about because he thought it was gonna be the next Borerlance.
I knew Minecraft would do well, but and we don't
know what the rest of the weeks are gonna be doing. Right,
But if you look at the next coming up until
Lelo and Stitch, there's not much for kids or families
like the amateur like even Thunderbolts, like Sinners, like I
think it's gonna clean up for a while it's gonna
have good word of mouth for the people that enjoy
those movies or just want to have a good time
at the theaters. Everyone I've talked to like thinks this
movie is fucking awful. You know. That's the thing I
ask Bubbs in the chat. Good to see my gimmick hosts.
These analysts don't see the memes of Minecraft movie that
could have gone around for months and TikTok and stuff.
Absolutely right, that was a big thing and that they
don't probably you know, contribute means in their tracking. But
I knew it would be successful, and you can go
back in the draft. I just didn't know how successful. Right.
It was kind of like what I said with Mufasa
and Wicked, where it's like I never thought they were
gonna fully bomb, but I didn't know, like is this
gonna be just a hit and make some money or
is it gonna be like a massive smash That I
didn't know. And that's the same with Minecraft. I didn't know.
And even to the point where if you had asked me, hey,
is it going to open better than the Mario movie?
Absolutely not. I wouldn't think that, and it did, which
is crazy to me because I just feel like Mario
just generations, more generations than Minecraft. The animation always helps,
but that shows how big again take away Tetris, Minecraft,
biggest selling game of all time, has many generations. So
it's not a surprise that's a hit. I think everyone's
just surprised of how big of a hit it is.
And I think it's also just a surprise, like it's
the thing of them. That's why why I'm doing this
podcast is it's about the bubble, right, we talked about this,
you know s bubs you know again, just shout them out.
We host the gimmick, right, And there's a wrestler named Jayu.
So the online Twitter wrestling community, I won't say hates
the guy, but majority of them hate the spot he's in.
And he's in the main events. He's in a top spot,
I'll say, right, he's in a spot that a law
of people go. I wish there is X Y and
Z restler there. But when you look at the mainstream
the arenas, when they do like his signings, they sell
out automatically. It's this thing of like it's such a
bubble social media, right, like it always is, but even
more so now, whether it's that whether it's political, it's
very much a bubble and same than Minecraft. You look
at Minecraft. That thing was getting tear to shreds. And
like I said, everybody I've talked to it's not even
said like, oh, it was all right, like I think
maybe I guess I did. I can't remember if she
said was her kids or her Jessica was in the
discord and I think she said she, you know, it
was fine or something like that, but I'll Other than her,
everybody I talked, like the ninety nine percent I've talked
to have said it's very bad. And again I've not
seen the movie. I will eventually see the movie because
I have kids that play Minecraft. Undecided if we're gonna
go to the theater or not, we might if not
wait for home kind of pans. If the kids really
really want to see something, then of course I'll take them.
But if they're like, oh, I want to see it,
but it's not like detrimental and I don't want to
see this movie, then great, I can sit out and
not watch them wait from home. But the thing is,
if you were looked online, it's like, oh, this movie's
gonna eat shit. But that's again it's not the whole picture.
And for me, it's also what I've been talking about
the past couple of weeks. I can't remember we had
a longer discussion maybe with snow White, but and that's
a case where that was not a good movie and
it failed, right. But I've I've said a few times
I tell of us on vodka stream too, where you
don't I'm completely I want to do study where I
was last week and even just like today, right before,
I was looking into the numbers. And what I'm going
to do here is I've looked in I'm gonna do
some vid here. I've looked in the past three decades
from two thousands to twy ten, twenty twenty, and then
the last five years, and then you gonn bring up
some stuff where what is the quality of the top
ten movies? Obviously I'd love to do like what's the
top thirty, top twenty, it gets your better gauge, but
the top ten of each of those years. And don't
worry you might sound like that's gonna be a megapodcast. No,
That's why I did some prep work before. What is
the top ten of those years? And is the quality
movies going down because I feel like more than ever. Obviously, yes,
it's about IP. It's been about IP for a long time.
Especially when I looked at the two thousands, it's like
the amount of original movies there and there are nuts,
but it's about IP. Oh. And that's the other thing too,
when I looked at the past ten years, so from
twenty twenty five to twenty fifteen, there's only three to me,
just like pure original movies, Secret Life and these are
in the movies that are in top ten, Secret Life
of Pets, Tenant and Oppenheimer. Now here's the thing. Oppenheimer
is kind of based off a book, like it is,
but I still feel like me and Emien were talking
about this, and because the two other movies that to
me are question for the Martian and Bohemian Rhapsody that
are books or a life right, Martian not so much.
So I could kind of count that and put four.
Bohemian Raap City Queen's played on the radar like every day,
it's around one of the biggest bands like that to
me is like a Belton ip Right and Oppenheimer. You
can make that case for it, But at the same time,
it's like, how many people are walking up to you
want to talk about Robert J. Oppenheimer, right, Like that's
not a thing like that that that that's not something
that happens. So that's where to me, like the only
original ones are Nolan Tennant and Secret Life of Pets,
Secret Life Pets Kids me right, And that's what's kind
of sad in So what's that fifty movies in the
top and that's just top ten, right, I'm sure if
you expand that, it's even more so. It is very tough.
So ip's always been there. But for me, it's like
it just feels like the quality of movies matter a
lot less. I don't know if it's because how much
schlock we get on streaming. I don't know if it's
just because we see so many movies, right, And I
went on a rant about this last week. I've said
that many times where we do live in a bubble
and we see this all the time. I'ven't seen this
since I started podcasting, and I was probably that guy
at some point. But it is like, oh, we need
more original movies less ipe yet da da da. But
it doesn't matter. I'm not saying don't keep making those movies.
That's what we make, right, That's a drena rome. That's
it for love is that's what other things are. And
you know, we're just trying to make our way and
we're having a fun time producing films, and I'm all
for that. But I'm saying the sense of people, the
sentiment of we need more original films. There's so many
out there, there's tons, but people just don't give them
time and day. And that's why I always push back
on like, oh, if you make a good story, you
know people are gonna come up to see it. That
could be a portion that definitely helps with the word
of mouth and legs. But everything I've heard about Minecraft
not a good story, right. And then to example last week,
same thing about snow White, but that eight shit right,
So it's more again just about the biggest ip. But
I wanted to really look and see, Okay, is the
quality of the top ten, like the biggest movies of
each year going down? Now. I did this if I
had not seen the movie. I looked at rowdn Mayos,
the critics because the audience scores sometimes not back in
the day, everyone had to see them. It's purely based
on what I consider good and bad. So that's where,
you know, because I thought about making the whole thing
like ron Tomatos, but that's not as fun because it's
other people's things like opinions whatnot. I went on for me,
what is my thing? So at first what I was
gonna do is for each calm, I had like a
the two like the two thousands, the tens and in
the twenties, right, and I had a good and a
bad call, and I kept putting the numbers up. Now
I did this, and I'll bring up in the screen here,
let me go all the way back. I did this
in the two thousands, and I just stopped. I stopped
because there was two. There was not enough to me
of good to bad ratio. It to me was pretty good.
And what I say by good is like like at
least a six point five seven. You know, if you're
like a six, like just barely a pass, I'm probably
not gonna get you there. So something like, uh, it's tough.
Like there's some films like even like a Thoword Dark World.
It's like I could maybe there even like a BVS
where for me, I like it. I think there's enough
people that didn't like it and it was a tough
call for some of them, right, But I have percentages
of what I did. But let me go here and
I will share my screen here and then we'll talk
about this. And that's what I want to test. Because
I said this, we're talking about on vodka stream, some
Peel agreed, some Peel didn't, and I thought about this
last we can keep first. But on Vograsteam there's some
in the comments like this is an AS nine take.
How could you people go and pay for good stories? No?
I think sometimes people and that's why I tests. They
the good stories help and that makes them feel better. Right.
If you're going to see a IP like a Marvel,
Star Wars, Disney DC, whatever, and it's considered good, that
gets people to go more. But if it's something they
want to see, they're just gonna see it again. I
always read like Blade Runner twenty forty nine, fantastic movie,
one of the best sci fi movies ever. That eight
shit like the original. Right, there's countless movies. You could
go to furiosa last year fantastic. Right, that's the same
thing we had happened last Sure has happened now where
I think it was up until like January May, there
wasn't any major box office hits, and everyone's like, oh man,
we're kind of screwed. Luckily with Minecraft that happened a
lot earlier, and good for Warner Brothers because, like I've said,
I understand, I see people all the time that they
don't care if Warner Brothers is bad or shuts down
because they've been such a shit so to have treated
many people like crap over the years, right, And I
do get that sentiment, and it's run by like a
billionaire who doesn't care about this, and that I might
not have the greatest company. Definitely get that. The sentiment
that I come from is I don't want in ten
years to have three to four just major studios. And
that's it, right. That's the fear of like a Warner
Brothers shutting down is it's one less It's like the
video games developers right in all the studios. It's like
that's one less person out there or one less people
to potentially green light different visions and productions. It's the
same thing. Like I like the idea of like I
wouldn't want Disney to buy Warner Brothers or DC because
we would just be fucked with the com books stuff.
I'm not saying that what happened, but that's why I
want them to succeed. Now, that's what It's gonna be
very interesting because I think there's that the articles of
encircling We've talked about a little bit on news, but
like Mike de Luca and Pam Addy, they are the
film executives, like the head of the executives over the
Warrener Brothers, right, And there's rumors that Zazov was looking
to replace them next year because I think their contracts up.
But also just in general because you had like Joker
and Mickey seventeen and then there's a couple others. But
there's stuff like Sinners and the Bride that are coming
up with a very big budgets and idea like can
we make that back? Minecraft could be a big win
for them, right, that happened with Barbie a couple of
years ago, so that could be big for them. And
Superman could be big. And that's one thing too, where
like the clip or not anybody that when like why
they fucking put the like the clip of Crypto, like
I need more Superman or or drama like this is
not the clip to showcase the movie. Absolutely. I'm not
saying every fucking person that saw Minecraft is just a
little cut oh puppy, but there's a lot of them. Well,
there's a lot of parents that had to take their
kids that they liked dogs. You know, there's lots of
dogs people in the world. To me, that was very
smart to put that particular clip there. So anybody felt like, oh,
what a lame Cli clip to release, it wasn't for you.
If you're complaining about that clip, you're not. You're already
seeing the movie, and if you aren't, it's like you're
gonna bootleg it, so then you can complain about it. Right,
So for me made tons of sense, and that's great
for them because now people that don't know about Superman
know very little. You had a five minute preview. Good
for them, right, So I think that was smart and
we'll see that'd be a nice one two punch if
they could do Minecraft and then Superman. Not saying Superman
will be a billion This gave me a good barometer
because Minecraft, you know, biggest game of the world, like
Spob says, lots of online chatter at one hundred and
thirty million opening weekend. To me, that's where it's okay.
I think I see the bar for Superman. I think
I'm like a, I think it has to crack one hundred,
like has to. Like I feel like I'm like at
a one oh five to one ten right now, you know,
like to me, if it doesn't crack one hundred, that
hurts a little. But that's where it's like, I don't
think it'll beat Minecraft. I think Minecraft will be bigger
than this just for generational stuff right where I think
there's a lot of people that, ah, Superman, I don't
give a fuck about him as much. That's why they're
trying with a dog or putting in a green lantern
or putting other stuff because they want you to care. Right.
So after all this, I saying, okay, again, what does
it look like for the box office? Do we get
more movies that I would consider bad or poor or
you know whatever? And it's all subjective, right, even Minecraft,
I guess I could go and watch it and think
it's a good movie. I will withhold my judgments, but
even then I'll say, like the it's my opinion. But
there you go. With Minecraft, that's like a I haven't
seen it, So what do people and critics say even
the audience go round to mails positive but critics run right.
So it's like I kind of put them in the
bad slop. But that's just like an IP driven thing, right,
So I'll share my screen here, So here we go.
Let's see here. Oh wow, you really got no option,
Like it's just like I'm sharing my screen. It's like
you're really just like the smallest thing or that's the
smallest thing. Like not a great screen share here, but
there we go. So, like I said, I tried to
make my whole like my chart here, right, but here
we go started the two thousands, two thousand Mission Possible
too funny enough retrospectives on the fees right now, biggest
movie that year I'd put in the bad category definitely, right,
but it's an IP. But then I continue Gladiator, Castway,
What we Want, Dinosaur, Hallagrin, Stole, Christmas, Meet the Parents,
Perfect Storm, X Men, and What Lies Beneath? Nothing like
Mission Postle, even though it's the top, is the lowese
on list. Nothing I could call bad. So I was like, okay,
did you have Nutch there? And then the next year
to this one, Harry pottersurs for Stone, Lord of the Rings,
Fellowship Ring Monsters in Shrek, Ocean's Eleven Pearl Harbor. I
put there Mummy Returns. Some people might put the bad category.
I couldn't. I enjoyed it, but I could see it.
Same thing Jurassic Park three, they plan the Apes and Hannibal.
So the end of the list used to to trail
off a little bit pretty strong there, right, two thousand
and two. So you got two Towers, you got Chamber
of Secrets, you got Spider Man, Attack Clones, Men in
Black two, Die Another Day, Science Ice h My Big Fact,
Greek Wedding, and Minority Report. The only ones I really
could have made like a big argument for is like
Man in Black two and Die Another Day. I guess
you could also argue attack the Clones, but again, Star
Wars being a big ip, it's never gonna bomb or
do anything like that, right, Obviously not a great movie. Probably,
I imagine that's the one I got ranked to the lowest
side of the Star Wars movies. I think i'd have
to think about. Luckily, there's not been a Disney Star
Wars movie yet that's been that bad. Maybe you could
get to Rise the Skywalker, but I think there's still
enough there. So then we go to two thousand and three,
we got Return of the King, Find Nemo, you got
both Matrix movies which you could talk about. Then you
got Podscarbian Brussel Mighty Last Summer, right, and then T
three there's another one X two and Bad Boys. But again,
as I was going through these years, there just wasn't
enough for me to be like, yeah, to me, this
shows like again two thousand and four, Shrek to Harry Potter, three,
Spider Men, two Credibles, Passionate the Christ Day After Tomorrow,
Meet the Foker's Troy, Sharks Tarrow, Ocean's twelve. I think
sharks Tail was the only one I found. I didn't
look out Day after Tomorrow. Let's see, it was like
the only one that was like running around the mails
because I was wondering, what does Shark Tale even rank
up at the Day after Tomorrow? I imagine it's positive just
under oh forty five, yeah, okay, so it's it's pretty
close popcorn mere wow, fifty percent by the audiences. I
thought people would have maybe ate that up back in
the day. But then we go to five, what do
we got here, Harry Potter four Stars three Again, I
could argue that, but I've liked a bit more over
the years. Uh, Chronicles, Narnia, Wore the World to King Kong, Madagascar,
Mister Miss Smith, Charlie Chocolate Factory, Batmangin's, and Hitchie Charlotte Factory,
same things. I could argue that that's where I found. Okay,
two thousand's like we're in six again, That's when you
got because Royal, you got dead Man's Chest, you had
X three, get Super Returns, you got cars. This is
where we're starting like trail off a little bit. But
then I think in seven it makes a nice comeback.
You got ats worlds in you got Harry Potter five,
Shrek three, Inspiderman three, Transformers right two, Iron Legends and
Simpsons movie, National Treasure three hundred and then two thousand
and eight we know which is coming up here, The
Dark Knight Current and then Indiana Jones four, Kung Fu,
Pana Handcock, Momo Mia. So all these were again iron
Man Wally like, I couldn't find much. Like the category
was pretty spezzling jump all the way back up to
twenty eleven now, But so that I just completely disregarded
because it's like, okay, and even the nineties, when I
looked into the nineties box office, that was same thing.
Lots of hits. Obviously they were a lot smaller. We
just covered this Omission Impossible retrospective where I think that
was the third in nineteen ninety six, that was the
third movie that year. Is at one hundred and eighty
three million. Pretty like small numbers, small potalos for what
we talk about nowadays, But back then that was a lot.
So you got a lot of movies back then, they're
pulling smaller numbers that are in the top ten that
are considered classics. Right, But then even like this when
I pulled, when I pulled twenty eleven, we're at the
start of the new decade. Okay, so you got Harry
Potter Part two. Yeah, okay, so we got that, But
then you got Transformers, Dark Moon on Strangers, Tide Breaking
Down Part one, h hang Over Part two, the Smurfs,
and Cars too. That's like six to me, stinkers right there,
all in the top ten. Other good movies got Mission
Apostle four, Come Fum Panda two Fast five, and that
was it. Right, So that's where already it's like Okay,
you're starting to see the trend. And what I got
for the percentages is I have them pier and I'm
not gonna list off all of them, which I put
into each category good or bad. But when I did
the overall, like, okay, what I felt was good and
then what I sold was bad in the top ten,
I got fifty eight out of these good films, and
then I got thirty two bad or bad pretty like
not bad considering, it's a much bigger spread than I thought,
as far as compared to, or like a closer spread
than I thought to what we get in the two
thousands here or the I guess the twenties got. We're
in the twenties now. But let's see super Mike says
the Transform movies were first pretty bad, and he was
raking in a billions. I agree. You could argue Mike
that probably like if you were talking about the history,
because I don't know if we're gonna redo this, but
in two thousand and what is it sixteen? Uh, let
me cut to the chase here for our ten year month.
We've talked about this before. We're gonna do a lot
of our old shows, right, and Mike, I don't know
if you were even listening back then. I don't think
you were. I think you know who Kyle is. You
probably don't even know who Lileam was. But we used
to be four on Geek first before everyone was watching
comic movies and getting into them stuff. I Dynamic Duo
and that was me kind of Liam talking primarily comic stuff.
And we talked about like right before BBS, we ranked
like the most important comic book movies and I might
want to do that again in retrospective see over these
and wasn't what quality was. It wasn't as good. It
was just like what movies changed the you know, Hollywood
cinema for comic book movies, And that to me was like, okay,
off ce it was Spider Man and even BBS. We
put them there because that was a big turning tide.
The point, right that was DC really trying to start
up their universe, the Avengers. If you were to look
at the box office and then this theory of turning
the tide of like real bad movies making tons of money,
you're absolutely right might there like that was the first
of these are not just like that's where it's tough,
like let me pull the movie, like even Twilight, Twilet's
stuff too, because you know, you know you've got a
good fan base, right, like massive fan base. But those
aren't good movies. Here's one to me on Stranger Tides
is a perfect example of that's a sequel, but that
is a privates movie that I think it's just like fine, right,
it's just okay, it's a it's a good enough time.
It's not bad. But that's one where you go, Okay,
I see it's good enough to make a billion dollars.
I can get there. We're Transformers, and even Twilight I could,
but but Transformers could consistently to to billion, I could go.
That's really if we were looking at the history of this,
that's where it started, people just accepting some real slop
a supposed as the slopification fear. Absolutely, like that's like
the peak of that's where it started. Right. So so
it was twenty eleven. Let's go to twenty twelve here,
and like I said, I'm I'm not I'll list off
which ones I put in the bad category, but I
didn't write them down because there's too many, and then
I'll wait till we Honestly, the twenty twenties were tougher
because there's a year of COVID and they have so
much more international films. I didn't include those because not
that they're not Mare and Warrant. But I can't speak
on those because I haven't seen a lot of them
and most of them are reviewed pretty well. But twenty
twelve pretty good. Here Here Avengers, Skyfall, Dark Knight Rises, Hobbit, Ice, Hitchconell, Drift,
Twilight Bringing Down Part two, The Amazing Spider Man, Madagascar
are three Hunger Games, Men in Black, so start really good.
You know, man, I'm black. That's not great. Amazing Spider Man, Yeah,
I have some. I've liked it a bit more over
the years. The Ice Age Movie. No, but let's go
to twenty thirteen. Now you got Frozen, iron In three
to spicak on Me, two Small, Hunger Games, two Fast
and Fury, six Monsters, University, Grabby, Man of Steel and Thord,
Dark World and Man Steel Third Dark World. Those are
those tough ones for me because I'm very mixed on right,
Like Third Dark World, I'd give like a six. Man
is stealing somewhere between a six and a seven, So
I guess I still put them in the good category,
but they're ones where somebody might go, hey that no,
that's a bad category, right, so those ones are tough. Uh, yes, Mike,
it was I'm Stranger Side the most expensive movie ever made.
It was wonder If Doomsday because how much did that?
But it had like a four hundred million dollar budgets
on our because that Electric State movie didn't pass it.
But that got pretty big there. Let's see, budget was
four hundred and ten million, my god, but hey, didn't
know what it made like one point whatever billion, just
made one billion, but still not too bad. But yeah,
it's crazy, crazy budget on that movie. Let's see here
it's The Great Powerful thirteen Good for Yours twenty fourteen. Ooh,
this is a tough year. This is what I meant
like with the two thousands and nineties, there were some
stinkers what I consider bad, but it was like, okay,
snuck in there. Or maybe there's a year where there's two,
maybe three Transformers, Ages Extinction. I'm just named the bad
ones here. Maleficent, I could kind of put I'd put
hob in the Battle of Five Armies. Sorry, I would
Amazing Experiment two. Uugh, Like those are some stinkers to
me in there as far as just like bigger movie, right,
if you were to look at these movies compared to
thousands of movie across the world. Of course they're better,
more well made, more while acted. I understand that portion,
but it is like in the scale of a big blockbuster,
what we're looking for at the cinema not great. So
we get to twenty fifteen here, Force Awakens, Drassic World,
Furious Seven, Age of Ultron, Minions, Specter Ins and Out,
Rogue Nation, hung Hunger Games, Walking j Part two in
The Martian, Good for the Martian. That's like a kind
of a mixed bag because I feel like there's tons
of people like I wouldn't put Age Altron in the
bad category, but many people would. I like the first
Drassic World, but there's many people that don't Minions like
I would. But some people like, oh, it's just fun
for the kids like that, even Force Awakens. I don't
think so anyone's putting Force Wakens a bad category, Like,
come on, you're being too much of a hater there.
But let's see. ESPO says, didn't Fast X costs like
five hundred million? Someone? Oh no, it was three forty. Yeah,
I think some of these budgets so might be a
little numbers might not be fully reported because they had
those days where like god, crap, I can't remember was
it Lynn Weissman, I don't know, but they remember they
fired that director and they were just on set and
just burning money, you know. So twenty sixteen kept American
Civil War Rogue one, Fining Dory, z Utopia, Jungle Books,
her Lives of Pets, and I got Fantastic Beasts. That's
a Suicaid squad major uh bvs. That's a tough one, right,
that's like a I The only reason I put in
the bad category, I enjoy it. It's just because I
just again, I just go off. I know, I got
many friends online GV and then like you know, Dave Scott,
people like that, tons of people, right, nothing gets you know.
Zack Snarer Luckily Joe and Chris interviewed him. He's on
our channel Love Zack Sner as a filmmaker for certain films.
For me, it's one of those like I couldn't put
it there. But there's so many people I know personally,
like I've met they have met one person in my
like real life with people that really enjoy the movie,
not kind of myself in The Giver, for Spiel, I
really enjoyed that movie. Every time I bump into people
where we talked about in the past, it was more
than the category. Right, Those ones are tough because I
don't have it there. But uh yeah, like Finding Dory
but again slow, like big ip everything. Zutopia, Yeah that's
another original. Oh yeah, you're right. So I did forget
about Utopia, so okay, so I would say, and it's
funny the same year that I forgot them, so I
just probably saw Disney and thought, oh it's that. So yeah, Tenet, Utopia, Appenheimer,
and then Secret Life Pets. Those to me are the
four really uh twenty seventeen we got uh, let's see
because yeah, whereas isn't Blade Runner? Is that the year
came out right like fucking triple In the year that
Bladeer came out, it was number thirty five triple X.
The return of Xander Cage made more than Blade Runner.
You know. That's why it's always hard for me to
get behind the elvits great movie people come out, yeah, sometimes,
but that's not the guarantee. Right. Twenty seventeen, the Last Jedi,
which I putined the good, but lots of people open
the But I don't think it's like again, there's too
many layers of it like that. You can disagree with
some choices, and maybe even the story and plot you
might think are bad or you don't agree with them.
But to say it's like a bad webe like a
like in the sense of like a Minecraft for Transformers,
I think you're fucking nuts, you know, being the Beasts,
Fade of Furious to Pickle Me three, jaman g Welcome
to Jungle, Sperman Homecoming, Guardians Volume two, throw Ragnrock in
Wonder Them, pretty good year overall there, We're almost done
in the tens here twenty eighteen and Finny Wore Black Panther,
Fallen Kingdom, Incredibles, Eh, Aquaman, Bohemian Rhapsody, which a lot
of people are I like that more Vanom Eh, you know,
friend has some beast crumbs that grindwald big right there,
And then twenty nineteen ran it out with of course,
End Game, Lion King, Frozen two, Spread My No Home,
Captain Marvel, Joker rya Skywalker Toy Story, Aladdin and Jamanji
Next Level couple as like that one's more debble, right,
lots of people would put Captain Marvel Joker there, I wouldn't.
Lots of people write Skywalker. That one's tough because the
trilogy's ending out. So that's where it's like where I
ended up when I just had to pick a side, right,
because no matter what, like I said, my good percentage
of movies was sixty five, and then my bad percentage
was thirty five. Not too bad, but honestly closer than
what I thought. So now let's get into our little
decade we're in here in the twenty twenties, because, like
I said, want to prove my theory of like are
there more bad movies? So twenty twenty very tough to
like gauge here because like the biggest movie that year
is Demon Slayer, the movie Manga Train four hundred and
seventy three. This is year COVID happened. The biggest domestic
movie is Bad Boys for Life. So I really didn't
count the here at all. Like you got Bad Boys,
you got ten, you got Song the Hedgehog, like do
Little Do Little, that was considered that was the downy one, right,
is considered like such a bomb. But because it came
on COVID kind of gets like like even Birds of Prey,
that's number eleven. Like I didn't count that year, So
the data is always gonna be kind of tough, and
I think for me it's like that kind of works
because you know, maybe there's one year of the twenty
tens you could not count because it's just like a
great year. Right, So let's go twenty twenty one when
we're starting get those big movies back. I'm just talking
about the domestic ones, right, So we got Spider Man
No Way Home, but that as the win No Old
Time to Die. Put that as win to no Movies
Fast nine, that's in the bad. Then I'm let there
be corners that's in the bad. Gone Silver's calling them.
That's in the bad Sung She Versus and the Versus
Sung She and the Ten Rings Good Sing two. I
put in the bad Doom Part one, Good Eternals and
Black Widow. I let like lean towards the bad again.
It's powered by Big Ip and everything like that. So
people are gonna go. But that's tough, right, So very
mixed year on the year we come back from COVID, right,
Espa says pretty much anything released before the pandemic hit
got Sorry, pretty much anything released before the pandemic hit
got on the top ten of twenty twenty. Yeah, that's
exactly it. Bad Boys for Life in a regular year
would not be the number one domestic movie of all
time or of that year, right, But that just was
a crapshoot year. So that's why I didn't include in
my final rankings here, and even twenty twenty five I've
included it, but we're only four months into the year, right.
So then we got twenty twenty two Avatar, Way of
the Water up on the good. I'm not gonna say
it's a bad movie. You know, I don't love them,
but whatever, top Gun Maverick up on the good, dominion
bad Minarizer grew bad, multiverseavatas some people. A lot of
people I talked to as we're go on, do not
I find do not like that movie. I still like
that movie, but that's a mixed one. Uh Black Pan
and O'Connor Forever, The Batman, thor Love and Thunder Again.
Lots of people put them bad. That's tough. Like I
could put in the good, put in the bad, and
that's where I'd say like the percentages are a lot
closer and then put some booths last, which but again,
as always as I bring up to people, I bring
this up everywhere when people talk about Thor Love and Thunder,
how bad it is to me take your subjective opinion
out of it. That is just a I we'll have
to see if they make a Thor five or what
the case is. To me. I think that's another bubble
thing when people talk about all thorn and don't get
me wrong, I think Thor Love and Thunder many times
it was too funny, not too funny a good way,
like try to go for the joke too much. I
don't love a lot of the humor spots in there.
When I did Rewatch it, I did like a little
bit less because I enjoyed it, because I think I
gave that like a same way five to eight. But
you gotta remember sometimes like when I saw this with
my girls, I saw it with Gwen, I had a
great time, So that definitely exkews it. And it's more
than Rewatch later on, right, and it's definitely lower than
that now. But for me, I think there's a lot
of people that do just like Thor like that lots
of people in our sphere looking like, oh big step
down for Thor. Here we go again, like we're doing
the tyke of crap. We're sick of this, we're over this.
I bet if you made a thor or five in
that same vein, people might still like it. And the
tough thing is, if you made let's say thor five
really serious right and it bombed, you could never tell
because people would say, well, they lost them with Love
and Thunder, or you could say, oh, well they wanted
more Love and thunder comedy and they didn't go that route.
But the movie made seven hundred and sixty million dollars.
In this day and age, when we've seen multiple movies
we've talked about the beginning, we're looking at these lists
when we've seen multiple movies bomb huge box office and
huge or sorry huge like Eyepiece and ips that or
even non eyeps. They have great stories to them, not
do anywhere near as this. That's why it's like Thor,
Love and Thunder to me is a bubble movie. Maybe
some people do hate it, but I guarantee you some
people many people just fucking love thornis jokes right twelve,
where'd i go here twenty twenty three, so two years ago. Now,
who let's see here Barbie, good for me, Super Marios. No,
that's just like the kind of minecraft slock thing of
like oh cut seeing the movie. Just put a bunch
of references. And don't get me wrong, that's the funn
thing about being subjective. Someone could do this list and
have multiple of the Marvel movies in there, and I
think the bad thing would go even up more right,
It's all subjective what you like. But that's where it's
like if it if you had it more over there,
the marble sidef you weren't in, or com movies in general,
the bad scales might really wait for you. Because I
feel like I'm being more generous than some gardens three
Good Fast X Bad Spiderverse, Good Wonka, Good Mission, Possible Dead,
reckoning like I'll pass good enough, you know, a little Mermaid. Eh,
you know, I don't know where I am on that.
Luckily I did make the top ten, so I didn't
have to worry about that. But and then last year
Inside Out two, oh yeah, good Dead put them over
Ring Good one of two? Yeah, I edge it more
towards the bad because it does feel like even though
I like it feels very thrown together. This speeled me
four bad Wicked bat No, I'm joking, Mike. Everyone says
great things about Wicked for the most part. So that's
in the good Move Fossil line King. I put in
the same Minecraft Super Mario ones. Uh so that's two
part two great kung Fu Pana four her was good enough,
looked at raw Tomato Scoes passed Sonic Legend or Sonic
the Hedgehog three good than the Last Dance, Godzill versus
Godzilla x Kong the New Empire Again, I haven't seen
that going off word of mouth and the idea of it,
and then the twenty twenty, like, honestly, we're just in April, right,
so they're like it's it's we are looking at it
very skewed because like it's kind of like what espub
said with the COVID don't you dare No, no, don't worry.
But I wouldn't know. I put Wicked the good category
for sure, because I said this movies that I had
not seen. I did just go purely run to mail score.
And for me, that's the difference where like and I
know you like to move faster to the Lion King
a lot, right, But there's other people I've talked to
majority not as much as a fan as you are, right,
But at the same point, something like Minecraft I've just
heard like skewed like skew word reviews. Right, I'm trying
to think of another one. I don't think my Lion
King that like the people I've talked to you have
skewered it, just like not much good things to say.
But that's where I still Okay, I've seen it. I
think is run a round too mails already. But there's
another one we talked to where it's or talked about
where I can't remember what it was. But if I
hear enough good things and like I said, musicals maybe
aren't my bag, but I can still appreciate. Okay, this
is still like a well crafted movie. So no, don't
worry like where That's where my my problem is, Like
I feel like many people don't agree with me. That
that's how I can't I put like Super Mario Bros.
In the category because I know there's nostalgia. I know
it looks great. There's tons of Easter eggs. To me.
Like I said before, she's just cuts seeing the movie,
and that is like very nostalgia driven. That's a movie
that it's just like I I can see people loving it,
and I'll kind of would have heard about the Minecraft
thing right where there's tons of people that said, like,
I didn't enjoy it as a bad movie, but I
had fun. I could see that with Mario. But Mario
doesn't really get that. Mario gets like like this not
revisionist history, but I just feel like it kind of
gets a pass right, And that's why I'm hoping Mario
two is better and then we just move forward. But
I think if Mario two is similar, people like, eh,
I don't know, but again maybe do they just want
to see things that they loved in that sense just
on the big screen. With New Code of Pate, we've
seen a lot of acting and stuff, right, that's a
of Disney. That's a whole mixed bag of some working,
some of it not. We'll talk about the newscasts with
like shelving like the Tangled thing, But to me, like
the Mario movie is in that category of I'm not
asking for the fucking Godfather here, but I'm just asking
just for just some like actual real emotion other than
like I love these games as a kid, Like it
just feels so I hate to say it, but that
movie feels like a I fucking made it at times
to me, like it just has that vibe, just feels
cold and other than like and I love watch with
the kids, so that's a great time. But watch by myself.
There's movies that can capture the magic of a world
and the trailers to be like, oh they nailed this movie.
Not so much. Uh see, Mike says, I accepting Foster
doesn't consider it. And that's where, like I said, I
had a tough time with those mid movies or where
I put them move foss like I did put in
the Bad but like a BBS, A thor movies that
are very down the middle. That's where I went with
my preference or what I thought overall. But the mid
movies are tough because like you have one side that
argued it's great, and one side that argue it is
that like that all bad slob it's the wors just
MCUs slop BVS is just like bad slow most slop.
I don't agree with both of those thor I agree
with a bit more, but you know, On Digress twenty
twenty five. This is where it's very similar right now
to what Spub said about the COVID year, where pretty
much everything that's released is in the top ten because
like snow White considered a bomb, right, that's number four,
but number one movie. We haven't talked of much about
this Niza two massive in China, just breaking all these
fucking records one point eight billion dollars for a movie
you've probably never heard of. It's number one, fucking crazy,
crazy numbers. But you look at this year already off
to a very rickety star like Halfway Captain America, Break
New World. I put in the I passed it, liked enough,
But that's like one of those mid ones where I
lean more to eh, I guess there a dark world.
Then I go, you know, because I think it's kind
of that sort of situation. So yeah, But anyways, you
got the at minecraft the movie that's uh snow White.
Haven't seen it, but just based on what people I
trust talk about, that's uh dog Man, that's a good.
Bridget Jones talked about newscasts. That's a good they should
have fucking this movie that one hundred twenty nine million
that didn't even release in Canada and North America in
the theaters that released on Amazon and Peacock. They were dumb, dumb,
dumb dumb to not release them theaters. Bridget Jones, obviously
you might just say hey, because that's the British crowd,
UK UK crowd. But still, like, in my opinion, they
not even doing this domestic doesn't make any sense. One
hundred and twenty nine million not domestic for Bridget Jones.
The fourth movie in this like rom Con that's been
going since two thousand and three, should not be doing
that good. But it is mistake to be in my opinion,
really good movie too. Maybe didn't hear me on the
newscast Homo with Dylan that has I'm gonna say it
might be early to say let's just stay there. But
I think if I were to pick the top ten
just single images in a film that made me cry,
I'm gonna say it's in the top ten. I'm not
gonna rank it, not gonna say where it is, but
there's a moment I'll say again the balloon scene, and
I think you do might have it's like the end
of the thing. You might have to watch the whole
series to get it. But I still think you could
watch the movie by itself and see the scene and
understand it, especially if you've lost someone or the fear
of losing someone and what it could do to your life.
The balloon scene fucked me up real good. As I
said before, I was a blubbering mess. I like I
cause I knew he was gonna cry. And I had
no problem crying cry all the time during movies and
whatnot all the time. Like if I'm gonna cry, I'm
gonna cry. But you're just like, oh my wife, way,
or you cheer up. But I was bawling, like when
fucking Logan died and Logan and I look at said
I talked to those news guys. I looked over the
Emily and just said, like, I don't even like these
movies that much, Like they're fine, why I'm not even
that attached to these characters, But they should release that
Mickey seventeen. That's a good working man. That's an opinion
based right, Like I think that's pause on ryand and
nails right for me, it's an act because it's just
like a very formal leg like I'm glad people are
liking this. David Ayir Jason Statham connection. For me, I
have no interest in these films really after it sto No,
that's fifty one I'm putting in the A. I've not
heard enough people say that, you know, Supermike says there
is a hidden, huge market for theatrical wrong cons most
of them are streamer movies now, absolutely right. And that's
where I talked about it last week when we were
talking about snow White. Where I think that's people don't talk.
Maybe they do, but I feel like I don't hear
this conversation enough about original movies, right, and we'll get
back to the because I have my rankings here of
the percentages for our five years in so far, I
don't think people talking enough about why do original films
mostly don't do it? Because I'll pull us up on
words time, right, let me go. I'm gonna be go
a round about point because Mike has something like I
said that I want to talk about here, So we
got I'm gonna go just domestic right now, right for
the movies you got Captain America, IP Minecraft, IP snow White,
IP Dog maun, Ip Bridget Jones, IP Mickey seventeen based
off we got novel. But I'm not gonna count that
so original, working on original, the Monkey Original, and then
I'm not gonna count Parasite re release, which is at
number ten. Funck, But like Dana Thieves Sequel, Flight Risk,
let's say we go original, Companion, Original, Black Big Originals,
and then Wolfman so and then Hard Eyes, like that's original.
Like if you're looking though, what I'm trying to say
is the IP sequels, if we're looking at the top twenty, right,
the IP sequels, because it's pretty down the line of
I almost got there, like seven to seven, right, But
the IP and sequels there all up here in the
top ten. Your Companions, your Black Bags, your Hard Eyes,
your Novacaine, they're down here. Thirty six for Companion, great movie.
I haven't seen Nova Kane yet. Black Bag. I thought
it was a great time too, thirty four million, We're
Captain America, four hundred Minecraft Foray of three thirteen. Even
Snow White. Let's say you had another pandemic, right, Snow
White would end at four at one hundred and sixty eight.
A movie that has been maligned, A movie that has
been Oh Gal said this, Rachel said this, Disney's woke.
It's a bad movie. Ye da da da da. Still
you would think in that world, in that fucking tornado
of shit around snow White, you would think that, hey,
a movie that has great buzz like a banion or
black Bag that should go all the way up there, right,
that should make a run. It still doesn't, you know why,
because people are still not still more so like the shift,
I guess I'm not sure when that shift really happened,
and I think it definitely happened with COVID. Right, I'm
gonna go back around to Mike's point about the streamers,
because I agree, and there's some people don't talk it.
But when COVID happened, that strapped a bunch of people
for cast changed things, and that really made it as
far as what do you want to You were put
in a position to People were sick, people were dying,
people were all these things right, and you actively from
i'd say twenty twenty one to the mid twenty twenty
two had to make a choice and go, do I
want to go see that? Do I want to risk
even if you just got sick? Do I want to
risk getting sick to see a movie awesome that could
happen at any point right, But this was a fucking
life threatening disease. This was a I remember because we
got luckily, we got lots of pickers. I worked for
Intier Health organization here in Canada, and this when I
was working in the office, and I remember the early
days of COVID, the first lockdown, when it was like
the you know, spreading everywhere, people are dying. Don't have
a big grasp of what this is. I had to
go on to work and work with the hospital system,
and luckily we did get nice paid for that come up,
and so it was great into your health's like, I
love working there. It's a great other than podcasting, which
is owned business filmmaking. It's been the best job I
ever have. And you know, fingers crossed on wood unless
the podcast or filmmaking blows up, I'm happy to be
working in there somewhere around their whole life, right. But
those were scary times where it's like I need I
have to go and work, and because I have to
help with the hospitals and get stuff there, but we
don't know what this is. I'm going and doesn't marry
on a mess like this could be it for us, right,
So we were obviously learned many things about COVID, but
still everybody had to pick and choose. Go. Okay, even
myself see movies. I can't see as much movies now,
God kids, I have to be picky choosy, et cetera.
Everybody did that. So we were all put in a
position where, because of health reasons, we had to look
at movies and go, hey, if I let's say you
start to see movies from because that happened in the fall, right,
So let's say from August to December, you look at
the counter and go, which movies are gonna pick? And
for me as a podcast, movies right of like vanom
Let there be Carnage or Eternals or Spiroman No Way
Home ones that I had to review, want seeing the
big screen, the Batman, right, But everybody else was put
in that position that already the whole year around people
work and they have you know, look what's happened around
the world with all these fucking tariffs, recession. Probably just
around the corner, people hurt, like hard to find jobs.
People are hurting for money. And we talked about with
the switch to reveal. Right, So even after COVID and
lots of people were working either too. They had to
pick and choose, not just because health and money, but
even more so because of the health. You had to
really look and be like, what do I want to see?
And I feel like you had that happen, but then
you also had and what Mike was talking about, and
we've talked about this in a very degree, but I'm
gonna get back to the regional thing in a second
last time. I say that while you were at home
thinking about what movie would I want to risk to,
you were getting flooded with content. And obviously some I
think tons that's bad. I think it sucks as far
as the way that it's hurt the business overall. We
can never go back. I don't think that year like
you look at the twenty nine, let me pull up
this fucking year right like you look at I'll say
twenty twenty two. I'm gonna put that out there because
twenty twenty two that was the biggest year for geek first.
I hope you know a couple of years we get
that again. But after COVID, people were just dying to
see movies talk about movies. I think that's what happened
with our podcast because it started at home and then
it continued on And I never thought that happened because
like our Endgame review we had, I don't know what
the numbers are now, but like we'd over seventy five
thousand people listen to that review. That was massive for
us in podcasts, right, and like that's never gonna happen
to like another big thing, and we never got an
episode like that. The Batman got to fifty thousand, but
like you have things where it's like all together throughout
the year it matched at an equal that, right, But
like twenty twenty two, for example, you got Avatar two
point three, one point four for Top Gun, and then
a World at one million, and then Doctor ringe Wilts
Verse nine fifty five. So I'll just run up for
docu strange. That's four movies in the Billion Dollars Club.
You go to twenty nineteen, the entire top ten except
for ten at Jumanji, which is eight oh one. The
rest are all a billion dollar films. We can never
get back to that because of what me and what
Mike brought up there as far as the cold would
change everything, and the fact that people had to be
picky of movies. They also got flooded with streaming movies,
which meant, oh, do I really want to go out?
Do I want to spend that money? Or I can
just sit at home the ga The people that do
already see maybe two to four movies a year that
you know, are the bigger ones like an Avatar, like
an Insight out with the family or whatnot. I think
it even goes lesser down because before if it's like
I really want to see a rom com Mike brought up,
they're just all in streaming now like that Nicole Kibben
one last year's like Afron the En halfway one there,
and there's so many like sex thrillers and that, like
all those movies that maybe people have been like, oh
I love to get together with my friends, even comedy
is right. I think people feel the need that they're there.
And that's where I was talking about this away is
it's the same thing with the original films. That the
way it's going, which you know, scary to think about
for myself, because yeah, I would love and yeah, there's
way that we can rent out theaters and we're gonna
do it at some point. Our geek first movies we're
gonna put on a theater, even if I had, like
there's a movie playing right now in our colon one
is independent one. The poster is like someone like they
took a phote and just threw the cheapest text on there.
I'm like, every poster tap is made for a Drenna
home is a million times better than this. Like I'm
not saying I'm a great filmmaker. We're starting off, but
it's like sometimes I see something stuff I'm like, Okay,
I'm gonna pay and get some screenings, and that's long
term goals. Right. That's where it sucks for myself and
many others where you have these films like Companion, Novaca
and whatnot, they come out, make a little bit bare
of their budget, back rom comms, the comedies, the original
films they're on, they're streaming, you know, like that's where
they could become a bigger hit. You're gonna get less
of them in the theaters because people are just gonna
look at it like more of a risk. Right. That's
what that report was last week with Warner Brothers and said, hey,
going forward, they're just doing big ip stuff and they're
already producing like New Harry Potter Show. They're getting lots
of Game of Throwing stuff, they got the DC stuff,
they got tons of IP, they did Barbie, the rumors
of Barbie two. Right, there's tons of IP. And then
it's like, well, we no longer want to do anything
but eyep, and it's like fuck. And but the bad
thing is, though as much as it sucks, as much
as film Twitter is gonna bitch about it, and even
me he's a guy that wants to make filmmakers, I
don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that.
It's like you do have to do like and that's
kudos to like the Terrifier team and everything where that's
the templay right where you gotta start small and just
hope you make big and then eventually like your number
fourth movie comes out and as massive because like you
had to build up an IP yourself. You know, you
couldn't just like release like Terrifier one, like what the
fuck did that? Let me put it out to and
like obviously tons of things had to happen right to
get that movie to Like I said, cult Following Art
was a very great design. But like Terrifier one, like
four hundred and twenty one thousand dollars thousand, and then
you look at Terrifier four, Where the fuck is it here?
Let's get all the way or so are we only
at three year? We're only three ninety million? Again massive
success story. Hell yeah, of those guys and the whole crew,
that's awesome, right, But one doesn't always happen and two
that's all very self financed everything. It's like a studios
didn't that whole thing. They wouldn't take a chance on terrifyer. Right,
So that's where like you really have to build up
this this credence and hope for the best hope, And
that's something like art the Clown and the torture porn aspect.
They had a gimmick, They had an ip that they
build up, but they had a gimmick and a hook
to get people in. And that's why original movies, things
that aren't sequels, things that aren't the big scale, people
will just wait to watch it home because you have
the movies. And then plus it's just like I think
another thing that hurt it was you talk about in
my day and age. There's so many stuff that came
out right, like the Wire Sopranos, but Breaking Bad, mad
Man there was like a time where people described that
era the breaking I'll just say Breaking Bad. All the
shows are on in that time, the golden age of television.
That's the same thing when you're getting these like phenomenal
a class stories on TV. Another like TV, I think,
not as a big portion, but having these shows that
are like multiple years you just got to show like, man,
this could considered one of the greatest shows of all
time because it's a unique concept, or you have all
the sudden and tell your story. There's massive actors, production style,
X Y and Z. TV shows being so great definitely
hurt movies because those those rom coms, those original dramas,
even sitcoms before I felt like it like like I said,
before the before times and Breaking Bad, you had HBO
that was considered prestige, but it could just always be
watching as for HBO, right, like shows like Sopranos and
The Wire six Feet Under they had to take a break.
They weren't on twenty four to seven. So it's like
in that time, it was considered a step down to
do TV. So I think TV was looked upon as
lesser than it was, like, Okay, we pay a little bit,
it's you know, not free, but we pay this amount
and we get what we get. But you know, it's TV.
It's something that entertainers. It's something on right, something we
can put on for bed. There's a show we can like.
And of course there's things that people film love with,
like myself, like a Friends that you considered a top
tier show. But still it was clearly film and TV
were in a different realm. Now we've gone so mixed. Also,
you look at the stars, right, how many A class actors, actresses,
anybody go and do TV. How many people that have
won an Oscar recently have been in a TV show
or even the past ten years been in a TV show?
It like that, that's completely all over the map. Now
it's no. TV's no longer looked at as oh, it's
step down. It's just another form of the the medium,
which I know it always was, but I it's looked
upon differently now. So that's where it's like TV got
great TV. So I'm gonna stay in and watch that
if I have an itch to watch A lot times
a bad action but it's still an action movie, a
rom com, you know, a comedy with Zach Affron, John
Cen know, Ricky Stinicky, sure, you know it's right there.
And as I've talked about before, even most people because
they are not like, they're not like me right where
Black Big I had to wait t V O D
I did. Right now, I'm in the position where I
can usually wanted two movies a month because the twins, right,
so I pick and choose, couldn't see that. Would love
to support it, but I couldn't. So I support it
at home, buy it there? Great? Oh excuse me. The
thing is, I don't know what the thing is. I'm
gonna take a drink because I fucking forgot what the
thing was. Oh, that's a thing. There's film nerds like
us right that. No, okay, this movie came out did
about this much, probably beyond streaming and X Y and Z.
We are watching for the dates. But most people, if
they're interested, they will just go, oh, catch it on streaming.
And for them they probably think, because what happened in
the pandemic, it's like I'll be on in a month
or two. Sometimes it's not hitting Netflix or Max for
maybe four to six months. Like I remember that happened
with After Captain America right in that second week and drop.
Everyone's like, oh, guess they'll be on Disney Plus soon.
I guess uh or in the next two weeks. They're
just gonna drop it there. It doesn't happen anymore. If
you really watch Disney Plus and stuff like that, it
might drop on vod but to be on actual streaming,
it doesn't do that. Like, but Foster just dropped a
couple of weeks ago, and they honestly probably could have
kept in there a little longer, even like Wicked could
have been a little longer because it was still making money. Right,
So I say in the way that the GA thinks
about the stuff, they just think of, Oh, it'll be
on streaming in a couple months. That could be half
a year. But to them they'll see like, oh, yeah,
that's the we gonna think about watch and I'll watch
it the windows. And it's tough because filmmaker signed me god,
what's his name? He won Best Director nor Sean Baker, Right,
he's talked about extending the window, and definitely I agree
some of these movies they pull way too soon, don't
give a chance. But at the same time, when there's
so many movies coming out and the theaters have a
movie that's sitting there just balming. No one's seeing them.
It's tough for them to fight back and say, yeah,
we should have the center for ninety days because it's like,
this movie's making no money, we're running it. The studio
might be losing more money. So it's like, it's not
that way anymore. You know, it can't be for every film,
right would love it too, Even the Oscar Stuff's like
that gets a little bit of a push. That helps,
But films that don't get a push, they're just in
there dying. So it's a tough thing we're gonna get
back to. We're gonna end off the twenty twenties conversations
here with the percentage they have. But that's who Mike says.
I have so many friends that say, why don't they
make original movies anymore? Line who want movies like me
He's team, but don't go see them. They have they
have no idea. All these sequels Ip's movies are still
making tons of money. Yeah, And that's the thing right
where I think, at the end of the day, lots
of people say they want original movies, but they still
geeks and nerds will still go see the big IP
because I want to be in the conversation right, and
I have no like again, I defend myself because when
I could, when I had the time, I see you know,
the big Star Wars movies, see the big DC movies,
Combat movies, sometimes some Disney movies. But I still would
go see a bunch of independent or small like I'm
I'm the the fucking three people in the theater for
kinds of kindness, right, Like I saw Maxine, which is me,
Taylor and a couple like I would go to all those,
So that's sort of for me. It's like I have
no problem if you see them all And you can
still say, like myself, I honestly more original films, but
like my sense is I want to see more original films.
Do well with those people. I still think they want
original films, but they also don't want to be left
out of the conversation. Even if it's not like us
in our discord geek. First, there's still that like water
cooler of a big movie, right, Deadpool, Wolverine, Avatar. And
if there's somebody that goes to see four six movies
a year, you want to see the movie that everyone's
talking about, even if it's like you get there like, oh,
it was all right, it was fine. Like I know
a couple that they don't see that many movies, but
they saw Avatar, and when we talk to them, they
both thought it was like they did. They sound like
they regret their time, but they saw it because that
was the big movie and that's what people were talking about, like, oh,
Avatar is back, right, So that's the thing where they
might take a chance on like the oh, the Independent
with a few actors I like, and that looks cool,
but there's always a chance it could really suck, right,
So the least if they go see the bigger movie
that sucks, they can have an opinion. Where if someone
that same couple, if they're not talking to me and
they say, oh, we saw kinds of kindness, I don't
know nine to ten, people are going, what what's kinds
of kindness? What is that? Like, I don't know what
that is. So that's the thing says, when you look
back at it in the day, day and date, Sorry,
when you look at it back in the day full
w slate day in date in twenty twenty two was
wild or twenty twenty one was wild? Yeah, that was
something the same day as Max theaters. I mean, yeah, no,
I remember, and that was that. I can't remember what
his name, it was Jason Kollar, right, and he pretty
much lost his job over that, and I I, hey,
there was a record proof of me saying that was
a bad idea that I think really did hurt them.
As I said, for what they should have done is
they should have done first quarter and then let's see,
it's tough because there's always exceptions to the rules, and
this is exceptions. Five Nights of Freddy. That was a
movie that when it came out released on Peacock theater
same day, killed it in the theaters, made tons of money,
but didn't kill enough on streaming that they want to
do it again because now the sequel is purely theatrical. Right.
But I understood it, like I didn't understand doing it
the whole year. I thought that was too much. Obviously
lost no one over it. They didn't almost lose the knee.
But he wasn't happy with it. But that was a
bold move. And the thing is, you know, fortune fear
is the bold There's a multiverse where that worked, and
everyone's like, man, Max is the biggest thing. Warner Brothers.
The shit Yeta Da Da da A suppose says Godzilverskong
was one of the first one on the slate that
made Minion Theeters, but they already locked into the plant. Yeah,
and that was one where funny enough that the I
think it was God's Alla, King of Monsters, whatever the
movie was before that. That movie came out and disappointed
and all the reports at that time by scoopers and
like trades were like, they're already doing Godsilvers is calling
filming it. It wasn't filming it. They wouldn't have gone
through the movie. And then they like they put up
that movie because of course I already made it. Godzilvers
can call and it made a good amount of money
while still being on Max. Right, that's another one, right,
but not all of them did that. It's a tough situation.
So again I understood being bold and making some big
moves back then because it was COVID. Everyone's just trying
to figure out what they want to do and as
a takeout business side, business wise, just pure for the
movie maker or movie fans. That's a great option of Hey,
I love seeing it on the thing. I will always
prefer seeing a movie I want to see on the
big screen. Okay, but I'll obviously that doesn't always happen,
so oh if or again in COVID, I want to
see a movie, but I could be sick, I might
have a condition, or I just don't want to risk it.
But I'm fuck, this sucks. There's this thing out here
and I want to see this movie. Well, look, you
pay on the smacks, you know the subscription. You can
watch it at home for the fans. That's like a
just pure fans awesome move, I guess always said before.
I know some people might think because like I, I
talk lots of business and talk in certain ways. I like,
oh yeah, I'm down for the student, down for the
one percent, Not at all. I'm just looking at from
how it looks on the outside. Right, you take that
strip it all away, strip about like me trying to
think about in the business sense as just back to
the movie fan. That's fucking awesome and that's the perfect world,
right of the kumbaya. You can watch every movie at
home or at theaters. But again it's not gonna work.
And you also, that's the tough thing. We live in
a day and age where people i'd say my age
even forty, I'll say forty forty and below. There are
people that that movie's gonna hit Max and they're gonna
stream it, They're gonna torrent it. They know whay you know, one, two,
three movies, they know ways to watch that movie. The
older generation, Oh I'll just buy this app. Oh I'll
pay the twenty dollars, blah blah. There's how many years
or what do we see each year the most torrented shows? Movies?
We get those lists, right that come out at the
end of the year. This generation they have a new
way to steal, Like that's the thing, Like, so you
can't do that in this world, right, bad Mix says
worl Kombat too now sequels going to the years. The
only thing though, Mike, I thought moratl Kombat. It was
their biggest movie, but I don't think it was like
massive in the Let's see in the box office. I
could be wrong. Let's see twenty twenty one. Yeah, budget,
so if you let's say take all Max right and
being the biggest premiere budget was fifty five million, box
office eighty four million, So not that big of a hit.
So I think that was The only thing with Mortal
Kombat was it was huge all Max. It beat this
fucking Snyder cut. Right. Let's see here the Darby Allen
Mount Everest, HBO Max check out, the check out the gimmick,
and we'll talk about Darby Sherms. Sure as someone says
they should have done same day first quarter and if
they wanted to still keep part of that plan thirty
day ntil streaming, I suppear someone else did that. I
don't remember. Me is Peacock, Yeah, I can't remember. And
then obviously at Disney, they they had the whole you know,
Golden Movie Theater play like a premium to get like
Black Widow or movel On and stuff. So everybody was
trying different stuff up. But even Disney, which obviously fucked
them in, they asked with the Black Widow thing because
Scardule lawyered up and that caused some drama and then
she got paid. But even the Disney thing, they did
that for a few movies and then they stopped it.
But then they also suffered because they put a bunch
of the fucking original Pixar movies on Disney Plus and
that hurt them long term. Right, So everybody, I think
did something that kind of hurt them in the long term.
But that was just streaming in COVID in general, there's
nothing you could do. It was a death by a
thousand cuts to that point. So that's just where though
what happened. That is a you know, cannon, you know
event that happened for the movie world, where the combo
of streaming and COVID killed that system. We can never
fully go back. We will never. I don't even think ever.
You know, you never say never, right, but I don't
I feel a nine to nine point nine eight percent
never that you could see nine films make a billion
dollars plus in the same year. You know, just things
have changed, especially the way and maybe there's some big
booms and people are rich. Great, but and I guess
the only ways if tickets go up. But again, if
tickets go up, I think people just choose to go
at home. You know, there's so much stuff. You have
things like Stranger Things coming out soon this year. That's
a massive event. So but back to the twenty twenty
five list, and then I'll run and off will end
off here, So Cata America, BrandNew world. But but then
minecraft asked snow White eh, dog Man. I liked that
was good, Pretty Jones. That's where the thing we went off,
because we're talking about rom coms. That was good, making
some team good working man. I put in the monkey
haven't seen. I put in the good because I heard
good things. D NFT's was good, like Rodden Mails. Haven't
seen flight Wris. And so what I did is, like
I said, I just took the top ten movies. I
only did the domestic one. So that's why there's a
little like I don't have the exact numbers. It's not
like a U. It should be forty, right, but it's
not because there's lots of international movies if you look
at the list that are in there. So what I
had is twenty two in the good category and fifteen
in the bad category. Now you might hear that and think,
oh shit, because in the twenty tens I had fifty
eight in the good and thirty two in the bad.
And that sounds like a bigger spread, right, But really,
percentage wise, in the twenty tens, I had sixty five
percent good and thirty five percent bad. In the twenty twenties,
I have fifty nine percent good forty one percent bad. Now,
obviously the scale just on me and my opinion and
based on some other raw tomatoes and other people's thoughts.
Just it's you know, the show Travis told you. This
is what I'm telling you, right, The percentage for domestic
fifty nine percent bad, nine forty one percent sorry sorry,
fifty nine percent good, forty one percent bad. So obviously
comparing the good from the last decade, sixty five to
fifty nine, that's only what six percent difference. So that's
where it's like, And that's what I was trying to see.
And we're only five years in and even this year,
this is probably something I will return to me at
the end of the year. I'll definitely return at the
end of the decade where it's it's on par for
the last decade. Even in my mind though, it feels
like more bad movies are getting the bigger pushes or
getting more box off. And maybe that's the case, right,
because my you know, I have six percent, and six
percent is a lot for just a couple of years,
and it really is just four, right, And maybe that's
the scary thing too. I feel like that because the
COVID year was a crap shoot. So really in the
four years, we're already at a fifty nine percent good
like it's going down to my opinion, So that's where
I'm gonna keep seeing. I'm probably gonna keep this document
just to see it comparative. Why is in my opinion
where it was Again at the end of the year,
we're gonna have a lot more that'll probably help the
gain good category. But that's what I was trying to see,
is are bad movies making more money than they ever have?
And I'd say it's a little bit more, but it's
still about the same as last decade. But even though
myself last decade before we went into it, I still said, hey,
there's original films, got to find them and just because
of a good story doesn't mean you're going to be successful, right,
And we'll have to see how it goes, because like
I said, when I did the two thousands and looked
at the nineties, that was clear like the goods to
me would have been like seventy to eighties, like like
the quality of those films again very different scale as
far as box office and what was hitting and everything
like that. But nowadays seems like and even then I
don't like that that's close to if we stop right there,
fifty nine to forty one. That's close to a fifty
to fifty, which I think will my I do predict
that the quality at the end of the ten years
will be this or less. Like I don't think it's
gonna go up. I hope it does. I really hope
it doesn't sit here that man, the back half of
this decade, it really went up and people are coming
out for their great, true, very well made movies. Again subjective,
but still that from my point of view, that's what
I'm hoping. But I don't know, you know, And that's
just see like what are gonna be the big hits?
And you're always gonna get some good, You're always get
some bad. It's just the question of what's the layer
is that gonna be? And these off super Mike says,
Sony's benefiting from not only having their own stream or
not having their own streaming, but they get the double
dip with theater and Netflix contract and don't forget too
a lot of those. I think it's mostly Marvel movies,
but there's still I think a couple. But all those
Marvel movies, they do the things where they go to
theater and then they ru on Netflix for a year
and then Disney has them on their streamer. So Sony
was smart too. At the time, it did seem like, hey,
why everybody else is getting streaming Sony, you have all
these properties, why don't you do anything? But it was
smart to kind of be a supplier to everybody. It
worked out tremendously and Sony for the most part, I
can't remember when it was some I don't know if
it was reviewed. Me and Kirkland did or a newscast
and we were talking about Sony and for the most part,
take out their Marvel stuff good and bad, right, I
think it equals out. You have the then immorbious Madam webcrap,
but then you got Tom Hollins and the Spider Verse ones.
I think it equals out and the good benefits the bad,
probably right. But if you look at most of their
other films, their budgets are pretty pretty good. Like I
don't even know if someone has a list, right, I
bet they don't let me see, Like Sony most profitable
twenty twenty two twenty twenty movies, I doubt there is.
It's a very specific list, but like it's stuff like
it ends with us like that's very they're oh, I
didn't put movies most profitable movies. Let's see, because it's
just give me console stuff. But like, let me pull
that ball. I try to find the other one. But
it ends with us. Take out all the drum. I'm
not bringing up for that. But da you go. Oh,
I got the fucking book. Come on, come on, I'm
live on air. Don't fuck with me. Budget twenty five million,
box office three hundred and fifty one million. And there
was a string of I can't remember how we got there,
but me and kirklam were just looking at the budgets
of Sony stuff, and I guess the Marvel stuff that's
more of a gamble. But most of their stuff was
like pretty okay, here we go. Box office performance for
Sony Pictures in twenty twenty. Thank you the numbers shut
out of BRNT because he gave me the numbers. But
let's see. Oh that's just in twenty twenty. Fuck okay,
let me see. I'll just take the top three of
each year. Let me see here, and I'm hoping the
numbers gives me the budget. Please give me the budget.
Oh boy, you're not gonna give me the budget. Are
you okay? So here you go. So I'm gonna give
you the three quick adendum right for sowing the past
few years? Okay, and I'm not I'm not gonna do Marvel.
Let's take Marvel out of it, bad boys. Uh what
is it for life? Production budget? Ninety million? Uh? Made
four hundred twenty eight million, great win ninety million. Not
too bad, like even a bit more than I thought,
but not too bad for a sequel, getting lawrences back,
Will Smith, etcetera. Right, Jumanji next level, I'm sure it's
gonna be bigger. But even then, look at that Jumanji
next level one hundred and twenty five million box off
is seven to ninety five. Like that's where we've toubably before.
Some of these budgets like one twenty like one hundred
to one fifties to be considered a big budget, and
now there's so many movies that are like two hundred
and two and fifty to three hundred is like the
norm for a big budget, Like it's crazy, But that's
the case where it's now like, yeah, one hundred and
twenty five nothing to sneeze at, but in comparative to
a lot of other stuff more manageable. Right. Okay, so
we got Little Woman Nate's two hundred and eighteen million
budget of forty two million. Again, great sony. Let's go
to two thousand and one. See if they're cooking over here. Okay,
so the first ones are spier Man and then let
the be Carnach. We're not gonna do that. Not a
good year after that because the ones after that are Ghostbusters.
After Liz is pure Rabbit two and don't Breathe too.
So let's see here. So Ghostbusters, here's the thing. Not
the last one wasn't the biggest performer. Two hundred and
three million, pretty modes for a Ghostbusters movie, but still
seventy five million, keeping that budget lower. Now again, the
oh that's a nice fact here. Production they have this
right here, the numbers the worldwidees box off box offices
two point seven times production budget. That's cool. And again
it's more because you got P and A, so you
got marketizing everything like that. But let's just take it on.
You're just looking at the budget, right, Let's go act
with Peter Rabbit two. That costs forty five million, one
hundred and fifty seven boom. So if you're just on production, brodjets.
They're making the profit back. Don't breathe too. This is
a tough one fifteen million, forty seven million, so they're
making their profit, but you're getting a bit more wabbly
legs there. Right, let me close a couple of these
windows here, So Sony twenty twenty two, let's see, so
we'll go uncharted bullet Train and where the crowdedds sing
the number one film that you were a Spierman No
Way Home. But let's see. Uh oh, even that's funny.
Spierman No Way Home was their biggest box office in
twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two because the carryover
that's funny. Toughier for Sony there, but even is it?
Does that? How that counts? That shouldn't count like that?
That's a weird way. That's fine. We got three otherwise right,
Uncharted one hundred twenty million budget four hundred million, so
again more like a bigger budget, but a more moss
bigger budget. Bolt Train cost eighty five million, made two
hundred and thirty eight million, where the crowded sing made
one hundred and forty four million, cost twenty four million.
Again what I'm talking about. These budgets were in the
last couple of years here, so the last So for
twenty twenty three, it's equalizer three. Uh, insidious red Door
in the man called Auto, which I still need to see. Okay,
Equalizer three mays one hundred ninety one million production budget.
It doesn't have it, of course, so cool, so equalizers
out of my equation here, let's see Insidious Red Door
sixty million, one hundred and eighty six million, band called
Auto fifty million for retroduction budget, box office one hundred
and eight. That's been more expensive for like, I haven't
seen a man called Lotto, and I guess it might
be just Tom Hanks, but like, well they spend on
that one for the ones they ones, they kept it
pretty low. I feel like that's a little higher one.
So okay, twenty twenty four, we already did it end,
so letus we talked about that or sorry, no, that
was that first Ghostbusters. That was the first one I
read off. Sorry, so this is one where the second
one got one hundred million and then only made two
hundred million, so again not the biggest hit. It ends
with if we talk about this big hit and then
bad Boys Ride or Die production about one hundred million,
four hundred million success wise, and then this year I
don't think they have anything out right, Yeah, not really.
They got let's look at one of them days, Padgington,
Peru and hard Eyes. Let's let's take a look at
this and then we'll end it off here, says The
most I remember about After Life is that I went
to see with my friend. He went to the bathroom
like ten times during the movie. I still know if
he was bored or just not feeling well. They should
bring it up next thing you see your friend. The
thing I remember about After Life is a movie was
fine we saw on spring Bak was. I can't remember
if I told the story you're on the review or not.
Maybe I can't remember, but we it was like eight
nine people in total, so it was me like, maybe
not tell me and my kids. Like excluding me and
my kids, eight nine people told. So a couple of
families back. There's one guy like three rows behind us
who was alone. He was like younger twenties. And then
in the front, like near the front in the acts
of spot there was like a man and woman with
their son who clearly had some special needs and that's
why they're on the side there, right, because they he
didn't have a wheelchair, but just easier access, right, And
I remember that, you know, obviously sometimes this was something
way more on the spectrum that like you can't control
your emotions or like if you laugh, it's gonna be
a little louder whatnot. And like, great thing is my kids,
like we've taught them, well, that stuff doesn't bug them
because they and they you know, have students like that.
That doesn't bug them. And for me that does. None
of that bugs me. I can tune that out. It's
people that are can control themselves assholes, that's the issue. Right,
Like I remember when I can't remember what it was,
Oh god, what was that movie? Amy Adams? Oh uh,
Nocturnal Animals. There's this couple that I don't think they
cared seeing that movie because they were sitting there talking
the whole time. Gave them the first fifteen minutes because like, hey, whatever,
we're starting the movie twenty minutes in. Gave him a
look once about half an hour, I said, can you
please shut the fuck up? Said it super loud. They
didn't talk the rest of the movie, and you could
feel in the theaters, people like they're like, what's going
on because they didn't know, but I don't care. And
same thing in this situation where this kid, you know,
has bigger emotions, so if they laugh or they might
just you know, be talking a bit more reacting and
stuff at times where they might find something funny that's
not even a joke, right, And that was happening. And
so many times when that was happening here talking like
the Dane cook like joke like like stuff like that, right,
And I was just getting so annoyed. And to his credit,
and I went over there to like to do the
full story, I gave it a little bit. It was
about forty four because like the kid wouldn't do that
all the time, right. It would be like someone happened
then maybe a twin a break, and it would happen
again a couple of times, some laughter, chatter, and then
you get the and it's just like you know, me
and him like a looking like what the fuck's this
dude problem? And for me it was clear as day,
like you can see this, you know, kid has some
issues and that's fine, but it's like you can see
that you know where they're sitting how they're reacting how
they're moving, like you can pick this up right and clear.
This guy didn't. But I got in my chair. I
went back, I've never seen someone so scared in their
life because he probably thought, because the tale in the
story is he did not know, at least he claims,
and I did think he was genuine. He did not
know the kid had special needs. And once I talked
to him, didn't say a fucking word, was completely fine,
looked looked embarrassed when the movie ended, because we walked past,
you just saw in his chair. Let us go up.
I sat down and I said, like, what are you doing?
And he's like, oh well, I'm shishing' this per to
keep talking like can you not see that person? You
know that couples with a kid that have special needs?
Oh my god. I'm like, yeah, so just next time,
think before you do those things. And then I walked away.
And like I said, from his reaction, I could tell
his general But when it started and he just sees
this dude get up and then walk a couple of
miles down and walk in his seat, he looked fucking scared,
like he like I wasn't like walking over like getting
ready to fight, but you're thinking, like, why is this
dude coming at me? And that's why again, always think
about your surroundings. And that's my memory of afterlife. It's
just like at first and luckily it was better than
I found you didn't. But I was just like fuck man,
like people go through enough, and that's where I was fine.
It would have been a bigger problem if the guy
had like knew, like had no problems booing some kid
that had some like special needs, because then they're like,
I'm not saying I have fucking took him down there,
but I was because I'm not getting a fight nowadays,
there'll be the rest of the mattress binding fights. I
one time going to scuffa outside of theater when I
was a young and I was I had no problem
picking a fight, but there would have been a big issue.
It was just some fucking asshole because like, these parents
go through enough. It's spring break. They're just trying and
enjoy what they do with their kids. That's why I
remember after like the first I should watch them again
the first half of the movie just like like like
I'm just waiting for this guy to hopefully figure it out,
and it keeps going and feel bad for the parents
because I think sometimes they hear the shit, sometimes they don't,
and they're not getting up because they are trying to
do like, oh like you quiet, but it's like no,
like there's fucking nine people in the seat or whatever.
So long story short, that's my after life story. Sweam.
Mike says, fun fact. Technically, but foss is still highest
girls in North American movie twenty twenty five if you
count the carry overs. Yes I never do, but the
numbers do. But yeah, you're technically right if you kept
the carry overs, it is. But finally, let's end this
dress told you so I can get some sleep, and
then we got Daredevil to Moral News. Lots of good
stuff one of them days. Production budget of fourteen million,
worldwide box off was fifty one. I've heard good things
with the Kiky Palmer Kky Palmer movie, so there you
go again. Budget nice and low. Paddington PREU made one
hundred and ninety one million production budget seventy five. I
bet they were probably expecting a bit more from that one,
but still like, you're not eating shit on it, right?
And then Hard Eyes production budget of eighteen million and
box office thirty two. That one you're probably just making
breaking even. But again these budgets are very good. That's
something to do with Sony. So we went on a
lot of tans. Thank you to s Bubs and Mike
who are here with me, like especially as Mike too.
You guys got some layer of times on, so thank
you for all. That's why I do like doing trast
told you because there's gonna be some good conversation. They're
always a lot later, so it's always a smaller people
in the chat, but I appreciate it because we get
to go to different places and talk about stuff I
might not thought of. And yeah, so in all my
theories are bad movies and you know, of course it's
a hyper balk tyle, but you got you gotta just
get a point across, right, a bad movies making money
more money than ever, maybe a little bit more. And
if you were to look at a trend of my opinion,
what I consider that way, sure it looks like that
trajectory is going up. But we're only four years into
this ten year cycle. Like I said, we'll never fully
be able to judge twenty twenty, so that's a disqualified year.
So these four years, it'd say, yep, it's it's nudging
that way, right, But we can see because there's many
years left many films. But if you want to compare
to the two thousands and the nineteen nineties, absolutely in
my opinion, and that's like a whole adend amount of
this stuff, right, because so many people don't make movies
like they used two and movies are so much better
back then. Yet you know, I think there's a lot more.
I think the best of the best movies from the
twenty tens and twenty twenties can match up to the
nineties and the two thousands. It's just I do think
there's a lot more crap. But there's also just a
lot more crap because it's pushed at you streaming Netflix,
recommended to you. There's an ad it's everywhere where. That
wasn't always the case. There's so many bad movies you've
probably never heard of, right, or just movies that you
never heard of in the nineties and two thousands, But
those top tens, at least in the ninety two thousands,
those were looking strong. Where I'd say the past ten
to twenties that could go in mind because the percentage
of what was my twenties, fifty nine to forty one,
not a great ratio I want for my top ten
even if the decade ends that way and they say hey,
or I would just say, hey, top ten. The ninety movies, right,
fifty or fifty eight of them were good, forty eight
percent of them were bad. That's not a great batting
average to me of like what I want to be
the top big movies. But it's about ip, it's about
striking when you can, and it's about getting a word
of mouth, and it's about just capturing the moment like
a minecraft, getting you know, the fans of that era
and kudos to them. Again, I'm not at the end
of the day, I'm happy for it to make money.
I'm not pooh poohing on that. I'm not trying to say, oh, audience,
don't don't pay for those bad movies. We gotta keep
up the cine. No, I want to do well. What
I hope is that again, it could never be like that,
but similar to a twenty twenty nineteen even I it's
not a billion that Hey, these big movies that maybe
quality is just kind of fine, too bad to lower.
They can make tons of money. That's great. I just
hope the good movies make a lot of good money
move a lot, and the good movies make a lot
of money at the movies as well, too, Right, I
want that percentage be a little bit in the top ten.
And that's where maybe one year, maybe in a twenty,
maybe for Tres told you in twenty thirty, I'll look
at like the top twenty and get more facts that way,
because I'd like to see that more too. But that's
another time. Thank you very much for listening this episode.
I hope you enjoyed it. Have a good week. I'll
be back for weekly Geek newscast, Daredevil, Lots of good Stuff,
The Gimmick's coming back this weekend to Last of Us
Black Mirror, Season seven of You. So yeah, lots of stuff.
Just don't cause the copstress to you at the theater. No,
I know that I ever got that cool. When when
that stuff happened, I was like a dumb kid. It
was like getting in arguing it's funny enough over wrestling,
but like no, nothing, And I was like, oh, well
it was that's just like a shoving. It was never
never did I have a fucking knuckle drag down where
someone's unconscious. It was all school yard stuff and everything
like that. But yeah, same thing. I'm never it's scary.
Now I'm not gonna lie not to not to keep
going like this. Now I need to hear that story.
Okay quickly. That story was so there. We wrestling used
to play at the theaters. I think they still do
for the Beger events, but these played for the years.
So a couple of my friends I always used to
go and they play. You know, it was Taboo Tuesday.
I think it was two thousand and six because the
main event was the Big Show Booker T and John
Cena and I was just meming on the Big Show
and I can't remember what it was. I can't remember
if I was. I was being like I always have,
like anybody else. Here's the thing you go to wrestling
thing in theaters. You kind of everyone has their favorites
and stuff. I think this guy, funny Enough was a
johnsona you know, fuck JOHNSONA fuck that brick. But he
was a John Cena fan. And John Cena lost most
times at these situations where you could be Joshua with
people saying your guy sucks. Yet Dada da and it's
all fine, right, this guy took wrestling a little too far.
He was about he was my age a year younger,
younger or older, but it looked like you wouldn't know
any difference, right, And for whatever reasoning Big John Cena
guy and everything like that, and I kept bugging him
and Johnsena end up losing at that because I think
Kim Feerline screwed him over and I said some remark
about yeah see, you know your boy. I lost everything
that And then what happened was he came up behind
me while I wasn't even looking, slapping in the back
of the head. And then he went through the exit
because there's like the back entrance and then there's exit,
and he didn't like run, but he like sped walk
out of there. And like I said, I'm not saying
it was a hothead, but I was had no problem
find back then. I've talked about on you know, uh,
bread and butters and stuff like that. Let's see, it
ain't interesting to tell you without a wrestling theme. Denning, Yeah,
I know, And like I said, this goes more into
but I used to me and my friends used to
do like fight clubs and basement, like I liked doing
physical stuff I liked. I had no problem rough and
around like I liked doing that stuff. I had no
problem fighting. I had no problem that, Like, I had
no problem settling that issue. Uh And luckily that's you know,
you grow up and go, Okay, that's you know, that
was dumb. It's just dumb kids stuff, right. But I
went out there and then I just tell them, hey,
like you know you're gonna do that to my face,
and then we just started shoving and there's like a
couple of punches that but that's where it's like eventually
people just break you up and you go across. But
it was like in the alleyway of like not where
the cars would park, like maybe like the employees park,
but it was like between that and like a there's
a big building so I don't can see. So that's
where it was. Like, Dan, it was just like class,
like your head rot lock and everything, and then you
just kind of go your way because you all know
your parents are gonna be picking up soon too. So
but yeah, I was just like, you don't just hit
me in the back of the head, like fuck that.
But nowadays I would never I would tell my kids
and everybody, I would not do that. You know, it's
different in Canada, not as bad, but even in America,
Like even now, there's times where something might happen in
a part I can't remember what it was, but there
or someone time at a park where someone on a
bike and they did something to somebody, and I like,
there's a part of me that wants to step in.
But now the kids is like, you never know what
people have nowadays, You never know how like that that's
where for me it's like I want to step in
and do things sometimes, but you just even the theater
thing that was like that risky because I looked at
the guy. I'm like, I think I'm good, but you
never know. I gotta fucking switchblade and wanted to teach
me a lesson because I embarrassed him in the Afterlife screening. Right, Like,
there's so many times where you know it sounds bad,
but it's like, hey, cause I gotta provide. I gotta
be there for the family. I like, I can't say anything,
but there's so many times I want to. There's so
many times I and that's what happened was Yeah, Cyber
Sunday two thousand and six. Guy was really big John
Cena Fan. I memed on him, slapped me in the
back ahead, and then I met him in the parking
lot and then we pushed and shoved and whatnot. Gotta
say I got the I got the better of it,
you know. And I was not a skill. I was big.
I've said this before. I was two hundred and forty pounds,
big beefy guy. Like luckily I was like a Samoa
Joe where I was like still had a lot of
uh stamina, but yeah, I could just push weight around
a lot. And yeah, so that's my story and that's
how I'm gonna end. Tress told you everyone, have a
good night, have a good week, and I'll see you
next time and it won't be boring.