WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.759 Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:08.480 to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garritty of 3 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:09.320 National Review. 4 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:11.640 Free Martini's coming up. 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:15.640 Very glad you're with us for the Thursday edition of 6 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.120 The Three Martini Lunch. Today a lot to get to. 7 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.440 We'll be talking about weed and specifically how President Trump 8 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:24.600 thinks it should be classified at the federal level. He's 9 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:29.280 planning as early as today to reschedule marijuana from Category 10 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.159 one to Category three so it can do more research 11 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.960 on it. We'll talk about whether that's a good idea. 12 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.759 We'll also talk about the exit of Dan Bongino from 13 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:40.079 the FBI as deputy director. Went on the job in 14 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.200 March and says he'll be leaving in January. But we 15 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:45.320 have some fun with the Democrats in just a moment, 16 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.240 because they refuse to release their autopsy of the twenty 17 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.719 twenty four election, and the latest polling on the Democrats 18 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.759 suggests that not much has improved for them over the 19 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.200 last twelve months. But before we get to all that, 20 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.719 let's talk about your health. Because if the Democrats are 21 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:04.159 conducting an autopsy, their health as a party is not 22 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:06.519 that great. 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And it 58 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:58.719 says the decision underscores the party's challenges and grappling with 59 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.159 its electoral setback as it heads into what is expected 60 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:06.000 to be a stronger mid term election year. And basically, 61 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.400 the DNC doesn't want to publicly look back and start 62 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.639 another intra party fight, especially since it did really well 63 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:14.599 in Virginia and New Jersey and they want to keep 64 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.400 that momentum going. So why look at why you lost 65 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.639 a presidential race including all seven swing states and lost 66 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:22.719 control of the center. Why would you want to make 67 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:24.960 that public. That doesn't make any sense. Well, Jim, we 68 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.199 might have some answers on why they don't want you 69 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.879 to see those results. It's because the American people really 70 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:32.360 hate the Democratic Party. 71 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.400 How are voters feeling about Democrats right now? Yeah, I mean, 72 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.719 Democrats in the minds of the American public are lower 73 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:40.960 than the dead sea. What are we talking about here, Well, 74 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.439 let's take a look the net approval rating for Democrats 75 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.439 in Congress, U said of Kate Baldwin, the lowest ever. 76 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.960 Look at this. Overall, they are fifty five points underwater. 77 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.080 They're approval rating is south of twenty percent. It's even 78 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.240 worse when you look at independence. Look at this negative 79 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:00.960 sixty one points. That means that they're approval is sixty 80 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.159 one points lower then their disapproval rating. Quinipiac has been 81 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.960 polling this question for the better part of the twenty 82 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.879 first century. They have never found Democrats, at least those 83 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.800 in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now. 84 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.040 Well, that should be pretty good news for Republicans, Gym. 85 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:19.439 That's obviously Harry Enton over there at CNN. What are 86 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.240 you talking about? And so, I mean, you could not 87 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.560 have worse numbers for the Democrats. If you're still polling 88 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.600 less than twenty percent approval, that's really really bad, which 89 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.600 is really really good news for Republicans. However, we did 90 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.560 see the recent elections, and so Republicans need to stay 91 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.879 laser focused if they want to hold on to the 92 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.519 Senate and maybe even the House in twenty twenty six. 93 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:41.319 But the opportunity is definitely there. 94 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.199 So Greg, first of all, I really like Harry Enton 95 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.319 over at CNN because a lot of guys would say, wow, 96 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.680 their numbers are really low. Harry Enter says lower than 97 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.480 the dead sea, right, which is actually below sea level, 98 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.759 you know, like this, that's almost a Dennis Millery style, 99 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:00.319 you know, obscure reference that you might get there. But so, 100 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.439 you know, the problem is is that we've seen in 101 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.879 the past if you're the outsider party, you can have 102 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.199 a very low approval rating and if people are upset 103 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:09.759 with the status quot they still vote for you as 104 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.279 a challenger against the incumbent. So Republicans can't get too 105 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.560 confident with this, but I do think the recent decision 106 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:20.399 by DNC chair Ken Martin to not release the autopsy 107 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.240 that they've been working on for a while. It's now 108 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.800 more than a year since the election. I found that 109 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.680 decision to not release it really surprising and dumb, and 110 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.759 it does kind of make people think that there must 111 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.920 be something really juicy in there. Yeah, we know lots 112 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.279 of obvious reasons. The flaws of Harris as a candidate, 113 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.399 Tim Walls didn't help. They spent a ton and apparently 114 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.800 that money everybody was overcharging them. That money did not 115 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.199 translate into votes. Greg, I have good news. I like 116 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:49.959 to think of myself as still a pretty good reporter, 117 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.720 and I've gotten my hands on the hidden DNC autopsy. 118 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:56.879 I had to break into a warehouse. It was right 119 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:58.240 next to the ark of the Covenant. I'm going to 120 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.879 get that next time, but for this while. If there's 121 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.279 a cigarette smoking guy, a whole bunch of shadowy figures 122 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:05.319 who tried to stop, but I got it. Greg and 123 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:08.680 I have found what is in this autopsy, and it 124 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.680 is shocking. It will shock the American people. This is 125 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.040 why I'm not surprised they did not release it. There's 126 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.439 a long list of key figures who played a role 127 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.160 in why Donald Trump won the presidential election, why Republicans 128 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.160 had control of the Senate and House as well, even 129 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:26.000 though the House elections are pretty close. First major reason aliens, 130 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.360 both grays and the lizard people. So both kinds working together. 131 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.720 When you're Trump and you pick up the endorsement of 132 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.079 not one, but two alien races, that's a huge deal. 133 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.560 That's really you know, lizard people. As I mentioned, Bigfoot 134 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.040 really big up in the Pacific Northwest. He didn't carry 135 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.120 those states, but he did do well Arizona, Nevada. That 136 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.120 was a huge deal there. The conspiracy went international, locknest monster, 137 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:50.839 but also exists, you know. But you think about the 138 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.319 key interest groups, the key swing groups that can sway 139 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.319 an election, the Illuminati, the builder Burgers, the Trilateral Commission, 140 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.879 and perhaps the most importantly, the stonecutters out in Springfield. 141 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.560 All four of those groups sided with Trump and that 142 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.000 was why they did it. And so look, not only 143 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.519 does this really put the Harris campaign's failure in a 144 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.720 new light, our entire concept of existence of the space 145 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.560 time continuum is altered by what's in this. So it's 146 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.680 not surprising the DNC would keep this secret because look, 147 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:19.480 there's no way the average American could look at the 148 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:21.680 election and say, oh, that's why they lost. 149 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.600 Yeah, I liked I like that analysis. I'd go with invasion, 150 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:35.199 inflation and taxpayer funded sex change operations for president. 151 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.959 On fire from the Middle East Europe. 152 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.959 Yeah, it's a real mystery. So are they hiding it 153 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.480 really because they don't want to talk about it anymore? 154 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:45.720 Are they hiding it because they don't want to actually 155 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.680 change for the reasons that they lost some of these. 156 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.680 I doubt that's you know, like, look, we just did 157 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.079 really well on twenty twenty five, and you know they did. 158 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.639 We should also point out Virginia, New Jersey and the 159 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.360 New York City of mayor's rates are not the hardest 160 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.519 elections Democrats are going to face, you know, in this era. 161 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:04.560 But the other factor I think it worked there is like, 162 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.040 look who overcharged the Harris campaign? What happened to all 163 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.720 these liberal groups, Like we've been complaining about grifter groups 164 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.079 on the right that you know, collect donations and say 165 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:15.319 and they run want to add like a day before 166 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.319 the election. It doesn't really do it, you know, Like 167 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.519 I suspect some of these liberal groups are starting to 168 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.240 get into this, starting to get into some very high 169 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.160 overhead people are starting to make a lot of money 170 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:25.920 for advertising campaigns and get out the vote operations that 171 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.160 really don't make that much of a difference. I think 172 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.600 it probably would also involve things like, you know, we 173 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.399 took some stances that were in fact not very popular. 174 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.919 I think would probably say, you know, the Harris, she's 175 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.480 for they them, he's for for you. His ad was 176 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.799 very effective. I think probably you know what, we had 177 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.639 a really bad record on illegal immigration, and Americans are 178 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.200 really worried about like these maybe things that Democrats don't 179 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.559 want to hear. And not just the Biden camp, not 180 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.600 just you know, the Harris campaign staffers, but they're probably 181 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.240 is stuff like they're probably whole much of not just 182 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.639 Democratic consultants who worked on that campaign and showed absolutely 183 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.840 no value whatsoever and gave a lot of bad advice. 184 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:05.960 There are probably a lot of incumbents in Congress, the 185 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.240 ones who have this really lousy approval rating that Harry 186 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.720 Entin points to. They're like, you know, you guys didn't 187 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.759 help Chuck Schumer, Akeem Jeffries, you guys didn't you know, 188 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:15.559 help us at all? When we need it. You're not 189 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.279 strong leaders, you're not people. You don't inspire the public. 190 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.879 So I think there's probably a lot of hard crews 191 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.399 in there that, yes, things are doing well, we had 192 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.879 a nice off year election. Let's not focus on the past, 193 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.600 let's focus on the future. But also, I think twenty 194 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:33.279 twenty four was embarrassing to almost everyone who was professionally 195 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.120 associated with the Democratic Party, and they would very much 196 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.679 the last thing they want is a really detailed chapter 197 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.320 and verse review. I think of all things where the 198 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:41.960 money went. 199 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:44.679 Yeah, no, I'll were a billion dollars and not much 200 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.639 to show for it in any competitive state. And so, Jim, 201 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:51.120 just a couple of things here. One is that the 202 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.679 Republicans famously had an autopsy after the twenty twelve election. 203 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.919 One of the conclusions was we have to soften on immigration. 204 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.480 Republicans have won two elections since that at the presidential level. 205 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.720 Softening on immigration was not a key factor in either 206 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.679 one of those. So listening to the autopsy, and depending 207 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.399 who's writing the analysis of that, is not necessarily the 208 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:10.840 way to go. 209 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.279 One of the things that is, you know, one of 210 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:14.960 the great ironies of history, as you point out the 211 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.120 immigration issue, but also one part of that autopsy was, well, 212 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.759 Republicans need to do better amongst minority groups. We need 213 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.720 to stop getting wiped out amongst African Americans, we need 214 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:25.600 to do better amongst Latinos, we need to do betters 215 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.480 and Trump, who everybody thought was going to be most 216 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.120 you know, repellent to these organs, did better, not phenomenally better, 217 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.000 not you know one where these winning majority of these groups, 218 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.960 but particularly amongst Latinos. There was a big jump now 219 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.120 before Republicans start breaking out the party hats. A lot 220 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.159 of this probably had to do with Biden and his performance, 221 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:44.279 A lot of this probably had to do with the 222 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.639 performance of the economy, and like other factors beyond Trump 223 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:52.279 and Biden themselves, or Trump and Harris themselves. But you know, 224 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.200 Trump managed to do something that the Romney and McCain 225 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.840 campaigns did not manage to do, even though they were 226 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.919 trying very much to appeal to minority groups and women 227 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.080 other non traditionally Republican voting groups. 228 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.360 Yeah, no question about it. So there's probably more than 229 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.440 a few Democrats who tried to drown their frustrations after 230 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.240 last year's elections. 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All right, 257 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:32.840 jem on to our What I think is a bad 258 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.519 martini today, and I think most people on the right 259 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.679 would agree with this. President Trump, according to CBS News 260 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.879 and many other outlets, expected to sign an executive order 261 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.759 today that would reschedule marijuana to a lower drug classification. 262 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.840 This is, according to two sources familiar with the planning, 263 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.080 in one of the most significant changes to drug policy 264 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.360 in decades. The order is expected to reclassify marijuana from 265 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.480 a Schedule one drug to a skeedue three drug. According 266 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:04.759 to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Schedule one applies to substances 267 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:08.279 with quote no currently accepted medical use and a high 268 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:12.360 potential for abuse unquote. That includes things like heroin, LSD, 269 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.799 and ecstasy in addition to marijuana. At the moment, the 270 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.840 DEA uses Schedule three for substances quote with a moderate 271 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:24.200 to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Other Schedule 272 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.480 three drugs include tail and all with coding testosterone, anabolic steroids, 273 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:33.159 and ketamine. And so it's still illegal if it's Scheduled three. 274 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.200 But let's be honest, the Fed stopped caring about it 275 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.559 enforcing drug laws a long time ago, as all these 276 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.960 states have legalized marijuana, initially in many cases under the 277 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.960 guise of medical marijuana, but then they're like, Okay, yeah, 278 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.120 it's for recreational, it's what we really want to do here, 279 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.799 and so that's what they've done. Republicans, because they think 280 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.799 they need to be cool and keep up with the 281 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.080 Democrats and the Libertarians a little bit, have decided to 282 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.879 go along with this, which I think is a big mistake. 283 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.960 So in the end, Jim, how big of a difference 284 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.120 is this, given the way the law is really enforced 285 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.440 at the moment, I think it certainly sends the wrong message. 286 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:09.000 In terms of the actual effects of changing the law, 287 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.039 it's probably not going to make a huge difference, but 288 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:14.279 it does feel like an attitudinal change, and I feel 289 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:17.639 like it's interesting that it's coming from a Republican administration, 290 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:21.200 a very non traditional Republican of Republican administration itself at 291 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:23.759 a time when I feel like the mood on the 292 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.000 ground is actually shifting against I think we've seen a 293 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.200 backlash against marijuana legalization. Marijuana is in this very strange 294 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.799 state right now where it is still up until this 295 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.759 change goes through, largely illegal amongst under federal law, except 296 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.879 that federal law is very rarely enforced and still largely 297 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.039 legal in a lot of states and state laws and 298 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.799 local laws. In fact, I borderline feel like it's encouraged. 299 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:49.919 If you drive up I ninety five by the Philadelphia area. 300 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.720 I've been making that trip to Thanksgiving and stuff like that, 301 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.799 there are large billboards talking about all the marijuana sales 302 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.720 places that I believe are over the river in New Jersey. 303 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.399 So maybe it's an idea that they're marketing to Pennsylvania 304 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.559 buyers who don't have his lenient laws. Now here's the thing. 305 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.480 I still I remember arguing with my good friend Cam Edwards, 306 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:10.679 like a decade and a half ago, and Cam thought 307 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:12.600 that legalization of brow wana what was a good idea. 308 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.240 It was different from heroin and these harder drugs. It 309 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.799 was very common. It was silly to have, you know, 310 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.799 the idea of like someone if the cops are feeling 311 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.200 like coming down on you, they might arrest you, they 312 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.799 might press charges. But for many other people who don't 313 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:27.759 get caught, it was not seen as a particularly big deal. 314 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.799 Bill Clinton, I didn't inhale, is there hypocrisy in American 315 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:36.679 culture about drug use in marijuana? Indisputably having said that, 316 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.639 we've seen the legalization of marijuana in pretty much every 317 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.399 major American city, and Greg, I feel like we can 318 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.440 smell the results, and it smells like a tire fire 319 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.960 in a whole bunch of you know, there's also the 320 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.679 argument that in a I remember back in nineteen ninety six, 321 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:57.320 again dating ourselves on this podcast, Bob Dole said that 322 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.320 tobacco was not addictive, and everyone said, oh, oh my god, 323 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.159 how could you possibly say that? And Bob Dollwood said 324 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.840 that he'd smoked for a while, decided he didn't like it, 325 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.600 quit and never had an issue. All the research I 326 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:12.240 did for hunting four horsemen from people's physiologies are different. 327 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.240 Things that are very addictive to one person is going 328 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.399 to be not addictive to the other. Right, there are 329 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.039 a whole bunch of people who've smoked marijuana, not become 330 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:22.480 addicted and it's not become a problem in their lives. 331 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.559 There Also, we all know some white guy with dreadlocks 332 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.320 in college. We all know some guy who got really 333 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.600 into snoop drug and Cypress Hill and smoking weed became 334 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.960 their life. And that is, you know, generally not a 335 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.200 great way to go through life. So I kind of 336 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.639 I think we have tried legalizing marijuana the states for 337 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.840 the laboratories and democracy. Colorado led the way, and now 338 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.480 the entire state of Colorado smells like Willie Nelson. It 339 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.240 just is this, you know, and I like Denver. I've 340 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.480 been out there a bunch of times, but you could 341 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.960 just see it, and you see the number of people 342 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.879 who are not homeless but who smell like it, and 343 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.000 the number of people who are homeless and who smell 344 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.880 like weed. W When actually went out to Boulder, Colorado 345 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:08.799 and there's a University of Colorado's out there, deon Sanders 346 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:13.160 all that stuff, there was a fascinating display between the 347 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:16.079 women's students there and the men's students there. The women's 348 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.480 students there who are going out to the ski slopes, adorable, 349 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.720 good looking snow buddies. All of their boyfriends looked absolutely homeless, right, 350 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.720 Keith Richards would tell these people to click clean up 351 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.119 their act. That was kind of the seal. And so 352 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:30.039 there's just kind of the sense that, Like one, I'm 353 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.400 not convinced that having widespread access to marijuana has been 354 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.960 good for America's young people. And yeah, I recognize that 355 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:37.960 for some people it's going to be purely recreational, it's 356 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.599 not going to be addictive, but for some people it is. 357 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.359 And also for some small percentage of young people, there's 358 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:46.400 some studies that indicating it can lead to psychosis. Now, 359 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.240 lots of people look and sound like Shaggy from Scooby 360 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.319 Doo and never have a psychotic breakdown, but a handful do, 361 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.079 and generally the consequences of that are pretty bad. So one, 362 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:57.119 I feel like we kind of hand waved away the 363 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.680 negative consequences of this. And then secondly, I would like, 364 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.319 you know, make people talk about making America great again. 365 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.720 I would like to make America's cities smell okay again. 366 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.640 Now New York City, I understand the marijuana smell is 367 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.359 covering up the smell of urine. I recognize that there's 368 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.920 a different rate for different standards for different days, but 369 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.759 in the stale in San Francisco. Actually, marijuana smell isn't 370 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.000 that bad because of all the human feces on the sidewalks, 371 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:22.920 that's pretty bad too, you know. But adding up to this, 372 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:24.920 I think we're starting to see kind of this backlash 373 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.880 and people recognizing, oh, legalizing marijuana, and people may have 374 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.160 pictured this idea that people would use it in their 375 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:34.240 homes and you wouldn't be smelling it everywhere you went 376 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.480 in public places and public parks and walking down the street. 377 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.079 So I would not mind a bit more restrictiveness. I 378 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.799 would not mind an effort to say, hey, if you're 379 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:45.680 going to enjoy this, you should be enjoying this behind 380 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.319 closed doors someplace where, you you know, not away from 381 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.640 in the public, away from kids, away from all this stuff. 382 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.279 So I want to see a little more tougher enforcement 383 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.759 of restriction of where you can smoke marijuana. Is this 384 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.559 administration change going to make a huge difference. Probably not, 385 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:02.119 But like I said, it's an aditudinal signal that I 386 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:04.559 think is ironically running across kind of in a backlash 387 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.400 from a whole bunch of folks. So like, hmm, this 388 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:10.200 doesn't work. And interest in a larger context of drug decriminalization. 389 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.000 Talk to people in Portland, Oregon who have said, oh, no, 390 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.440 this has worked out terribly and we need to reverse 391 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:17.039 this when you see the sheer number of people who 392 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:20.279 have become completely addicted and are basically screaming maniacs out 393 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:21.119 on the streets though there. 394 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.160 So I'm guessing this is going to happen. I don't 395 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:25.960 know what kind of research is going to happen here. 396 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.720 We obviously heard about, you know, minimizing pain for cancer 397 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.200 patients back when people were trying to push the medical 398 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:33.400 marijuana ballot initiatives. 399 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:35.440 And a lot of cancer patients in downtowns to cities, 400 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:38.799 aren't there. Yeah, everybody's got glaucoma apparently. 401 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.240