Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
Speaker 1: to Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garritty of
Speaker 1: National Review.
Speaker 2: Free Martini's coming up.
Speaker 3: Very glad you're with us for the Thursday edition of
Speaker 3: The Three Martini Lunch. Today a lot to get to.
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about weed and specifically how President Trump
Speaker 3: thinks it should be classified at the federal level. He's
Speaker 3: planning as early as today to reschedule marijuana from Category
Speaker 3: one to Category three so it can do more research
Speaker 3: on it. We'll talk about whether that's a good idea.
Speaker 3: We'll also talk about the exit of Dan Bongino from
Speaker 3: the FBI as deputy director. Went on the job in
Speaker 3: March and says he'll be leaving in January. But we
Speaker 3: have some fun with the Democrats in just a moment,
Speaker 3: because they refuse to release their autopsy of the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four election, and the latest polling on the Democrats
Speaker 3: suggests that not much has improved for them over the
Speaker 3: last twelve months. But before we get to all that,
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Speaker 3: All right, Jim, let's have some fun with the Democrats here,
Speaker 3: because one of the top stories over at Politico today
Speaker 3: is that the Democratic National Committee is refusing to release
Speaker 3: its autopsy of the party's major twenty twenty four losses.
Speaker 3: It said that yesterday, and it breaks the promise from
Speaker 3: DNC chairman Ken Martin to publicly release it. And it
Speaker 3: says the decision underscores the party's challenges and grappling with
Speaker 3: its electoral setback as it heads into what is expected
Speaker 3: to be a stronger mid term election year. And basically,
Speaker 3: the DNC doesn't want to publicly look back and start
Speaker 3: another intra party fight, especially since it did really well
Speaker 3: in Virginia and New Jersey and they want to keep
Speaker 3: that momentum going. So why look at why you lost
Speaker 3: a presidential race including all seven swing states and lost
Speaker 3: control of the center. Why would you want to make
Speaker 3: that public. That doesn't make any sense. Well, Jim, we
Speaker 3: might have some answers on why they don't want you
Speaker 3: to see those results. It's because the American people really
Speaker 3: hate the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: How are voters feeling about Democrats right now? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Democrats in the minds of the American public are lower
Speaker 1: than the dead sea. What are we talking about here, Well,
Speaker 1: let's take a look the net approval rating for Democrats
Speaker 1: in Congress, U said of Kate Baldwin, the lowest ever.
Speaker 1: Look at this. Overall, they are fifty five points underwater.
Speaker 1: They're approval rating is south of twenty percent. It's even
Speaker 1: worse when you look at independence. Look at this negative
Speaker 1: sixty one points. That means that they're approval is sixty
Speaker 1: one points lower then their disapproval rating. Quinipiac has been
Speaker 1: polling this question for the better part of the twenty
Speaker 1: first century. They have never found Democrats, at least those
Speaker 1: in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now.
Speaker 3: Well, that should be pretty good news for Republicans, Gym.
Speaker 3: That's obviously Harry Enton over there at CNN. What are
Speaker 3: you talking about? And so, I mean, you could not
Speaker 3: have worse numbers for the Democrats. If you're still polling
Speaker 3: less than twenty percent approval, that's really really bad, which
Speaker 3: is really really good news for Republicans. However, we did
Speaker 3: see the recent elections, and so Republicans need to stay
Speaker 3: laser focused if they want to hold on to the
Speaker 3: Senate and maybe even the House in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: But the opportunity is definitely there.
Speaker 2: So Greg, first of all, I really like Harry Enton
Speaker 2: over at CNN because a lot of guys would say, wow,
Speaker 2: their numbers are really low. Harry Enter says lower than
Speaker 2: the dead sea, right, which is actually below sea level,
Speaker 2: you know, like this, that's almost a Dennis Millery style,
Speaker 2: you know, obscure reference that you might get there. But so,
Speaker 2: you know, the problem is is that we've seen in
Speaker 2: the past if you're the outsider party, you can have
Speaker 2: a very low approval rating and if people are upset
Speaker 2: with the status quot they still vote for you as
Speaker 2: a challenger against the incumbent. So Republicans can't get too
Speaker 2: confident with this, but I do think the recent decision
Speaker 2: by DNC chair Ken Martin to not release the autopsy
Speaker 2: that they've been working on for a while. It's now
Speaker 2: more than a year since the election. I found that
Speaker 2: decision to not release it really surprising and dumb, and
Speaker 2: it does kind of make people think that there must
Speaker 2: be something really juicy in there. Yeah, we know lots
Speaker 2: of obvious reasons. The flaws of Harris as a candidate,
Speaker 2: Tim Walls didn't help. They spent a ton and apparently
Speaker 2: that money everybody was overcharging them. That money did not
Speaker 2: translate into votes. Greg, I have good news. I like
Speaker 2: to think of myself as still a pretty good reporter,
Speaker 2: and I've gotten my hands on the hidden DNC autopsy.
Speaker 2: I had to break into a warehouse. It was right
Speaker 2: next to the ark of the Covenant. I'm going to
Speaker 2: get that next time, but for this while. If there's
Speaker 2: a cigarette smoking guy, a whole bunch of shadowy figures
Speaker 2: who tried to stop, but I got it. Greg and
Speaker 2: I have found what is in this autopsy, and it
Speaker 2: is shocking. It will shock the American people. This is
Speaker 2: why I'm not surprised they did not release it. There's
Speaker 2: a long list of key figures who played a role
Speaker 2: in why Donald Trump won the presidential election, why Republicans
Speaker 2: had control of the Senate and House as well, even
Speaker 2: though the House elections are pretty close. First major reason aliens,
Speaker 2: both grays and the lizard people. So both kinds working together.
Speaker 2: When you're Trump and you pick up the endorsement of
Speaker 2: not one, but two alien races, that's a huge deal.
Speaker 2: That's really you know, lizard people. As I mentioned, Bigfoot
Speaker 2: really big up in the Pacific Northwest. He didn't carry
Speaker 2: those states, but he did do well Arizona, Nevada. That
Speaker 2: was a huge deal there. The conspiracy went international, locknest monster,
Speaker 2: but also exists, you know. But you think about the
Speaker 2: key interest groups, the key swing groups that can sway
Speaker 2: an election, the Illuminati, the builder Burgers, the Trilateral Commission,
Speaker 2: and perhaps the most importantly, the stonecutters out in Springfield.
Speaker 2: All four of those groups sided with Trump and that
Speaker 2: was why they did it. And so look, not only
Speaker 2: does this really put the Harris campaign's failure in a
Speaker 2: new light, our entire concept of existence of the space
Speaker 2: time continuum is altered by what's in this. So it's
Speaker 2: not surprising the DNC would keep this secret because look,
Speaker 2: there's no way the average American could look at the
Speaker 2: election and say, oh, that's why they lost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked I like that analysis. I'd go with invasion,
Speaker 3: inflation and taxpayer funded sex change operations for president.
Speaker 2: On fire from the Middle East Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a real mystery. So are they hiding it
Speaker 3: really because they don't want to talk about it anymore?
Speaker 3: Are they hiding it because they don't want to actually
Speaker 3: change for the reasons that they lost some of these.
Speaker 2: I doubt that's you know, like, look, we just did
Speaker 2: really well on twenty twenty five, and you know they did.
Speaker 2: We should also point out Virginia, New Jersey and the
Speaker 2: New York City of mayor's rates are not the hardest
Speaker 2: elections Democrats are going to face, you know, in this era.
Speaker 2: But the other factor I think it worked there is like,
Speaker 2: look who overcharged the Harris campaign? What happened to all
Speaker 2: these liberal groups, Like we've been complaining about grifter groups
Speaker 2: on the right that you know, collect donations and say
Speaker 2: and they run want to add like a day before
Speaker 2: the election. It doesn't really do it, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I suspect some of these liberal groups are starting to
Speaker 2: get into this, starting to get into some very high
Speaker 2: overhead people are starting to make a lot of money
Speaker 2: for advertising campaigns and get out the vote operations that
Speaker 2: really don't make that much of a difference. I think
Speaker 2: it probably would also involve things like, you know, we
Speaker 2: took some stances that were in fact not very popular.
Speaker 2: I think would probably say, you know, the Harris, she's
Speaker 2: for they them, he's for for you. His ad was
Speaker 2: very effective. I think probably you know what, we had
Speaker 2: a really bad record on illegal immigration, and Americans are
Speaker 2: really worried about like these maybe things that Democrats don't
Speaker 2: want to hear. And not just the Biden camp, not
Speaker 2: just you know, the Harris campaign staffers, but they're probably
Speaker 2: is stuff like they're probably whole much of not just
Speaker 2: Democratic consultants who worked on that campaign and showed absolutely
Speaker 2: no value whatsoever and gave a lot of bad advice.
Speaker 2: There are probably a lot of incumbents in Congress, the
Speaker 2: ones who have this really lousy approval rating that Harry
Speaker 2: Entin points to. They're like, you know, you guys didn't
Speaker 2: help Chuck Schumer, Akeem Jeffries, you guys didn't you know,
Speaker 2: help us at all? When we need it. You're not
Speaker 2: strong leaders, you're not people. You don't inspire the public.
Speaker 2: So I think there's probably a lot of hard crews
Speaker 2: in there that, yes, things are doing well, we had
Speaker 2: a nice off year election. Let's not focus on the past,
Speaker 2: let's focus on the future. But also, I think twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four was embarrassing to almost everyone who was professionally
Speaker 2: associated with the Democratic Party, and they would very much
Speaker 2: the last thing they want is a really detailed chapter
Speaker 2: and verse review. I think of all things where the
Speaker 2: money went.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll were a billion dollars and not much
Speaker 3: to show for it in any competitive state. And so, Jim,
Speaker 3: just a couple of things here. One is that the
Speaker 3: Republicans famously had an autopsy after the twenty twelve election.
Speaker 3: One of the conclusions was we have to soften on immigration.
Speaker 3: Republicans have won two elections since that at the presidential level.
Speaker 3: Softening on immigration was not a key factor in either
Speaker 3: one of those. So listening to the autopsy, and depending
Speaker 3: who's writing the analysis of that, is not necessarily the
Speaker 3: way to go.
Speaker 2: One of the things that is, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the great ironies of history, as you point out the
Speaker 2: immigration issue, but also one part of that autopsy was, well,
Speaker 2: Republicans need to do better amongst minority groups. We need
Speaker 2: to stop getting wiped out amongst African Americans, we need
Speaker 2: to do better amongst Latinos, we need to do betters
Speaker 2: and Trump, who everybody thought was going to be most
Speaker 2: you know, repellent to these organs, did better, not phenomenally better,
Speaker 2: not you know one where these winning majority of these groups,
Speaker 2: but particularly amongst Latinos. There was a big jump now
Speaker 2: before Republicans start breaking out the party hats. A lot
Speaker 2: of this probably had to do with Biden and his performance,
Speaker 2: A lot of this probably had to do with the
Speaker 2: performance of the economy, and like other factors beyond Trump
Speaker 2: and Biden themselves, or Trump and Harris themselves. But you know,
Speaker 2: Trump managed to do something that the Romney and McCain
Speaker 2: campaigns did not manage to do, even though they were
Speaker 2: trying very much to appeal to minority groups and women
Speaker 2: other non traditionally Republican voting groups.
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Speaker 3: martini today, and I think most people on the right
Speaker 3: would agree with this. President Trump, according to CBS News
Speaker 3: and many other outlets, expected to sign an executive order
Speaker 3: today that would reschedule marijuana to a lower drug classification.
Speaker 3: This is, according to two sources familiar with the planning,
Speaker 3: in one of the most significant changes to drug policy
Speaker 3: in decades. The order is expected to reclassify marijuana from
Speaker 3: a Schedule one drug to a skeedue three drug. According
Speaker 3: to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Schedule one applies to substances
Speaker 3: with quote no currently accepted medical use and a high
Speaker 3: potential for abuse unquote. That includes things like heroin, LSD,
Speaker 3: and ecstasy in addition to marijuana. At the moment, the
Speaker 3: DEA uses Schedule three for substances quote with a moderate
Speaker 3: to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Other Schedule
Speaker 3: three drugs include tail and all with coding testosterone, anabolic steroids,
Speaker 3: and ketamine. And so it's still illegal if it's Scheduled three.
Speaker 3: But let's be honest, the Fed stopped caring about it
Speaker 3: enforcing drug laws a long time ago, as all these
Speaker 3: states have legalized marijuana, initially in many cases under the
Speaker 3: guise of medical marijuana, but then they're like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's for recreational, it's what we really want to do here,
Speaker 3: and so that's what they've done. Republicans, because they think
Speaker 3: they need to be cool and keep up with the
Speaker 3: Democrats and the Libertarians a little bit, have decided to
Speaker 3: go along with this, which I think is a big mistake.
Speaker 3: So in the end, Jim, how big of a difference
Speaker 3: is this, given the way the law is really enforced
Speaker 3: at the moment, I think it certainly sends the wrong message.
Speaker 2: In terms of the actual effects of changing the law,
Speaker 2: it's probably not going to make a huge difference, but
Speaker 2: it does feel like an attitudinal change, and I feel
Speaker 2: like it's interesting that it's coming from a Republican administration,
Speaker 2: a very non traditional Republican of Republican administration itself at
Speaker 2: a time when I feel like the mood on the
Speaker 2: ground is actually shifting against I think we've seen a
Speaker 2: backlash against marijuana legalization. Marijuana is in this very strange
Speaker 2: state right now where it is still up until this
Speaker 2: change goes through, largely illegal amongst under federal law, except
Speaker 2: that federal law is very rarely enforced and still largely
Speaker 2: legal in a lot of states and state laws and
Speaker 2: local laws. In fact, I borderline feel like it's encouraged.
Speaker 2: If you drive up I ninety five by the Philadelphia area.
Speaker 2: I've been making that trip to Thanksgiving and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: there are large billboards talking about all the marijuana sales
Speaker 2: places that I believe are over the river in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: So maybe it's an idea that they're marketing to Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: buyers who don't have his lenient laws. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I still I remember arguing with my good friend Cam Edwards,
Speaker 2: like a decade and a half ago, and Cam thought
Speaker 2: that legalization of brow wana what was a good idea.
Speaker 2: It was different from heroin and these harder drugs. It
Speaker 2: was very common. It was silly to have, you know,
Speaker 2: the idea of like someone if the cops are feeling
Speaker 2: like coming down on you, they might arrest you, they
Speaker 2: might press charges. But for many other people who don't
Speaker 2: get caught, it was not seen as a particularly big deal.
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, I didn't inhale, is there hypocrisy in American
Speaker 2: culture about drug use in marijuana? Indisputably having said that,
Speaker 2: we've seen the legalization of marijuana in pretty much every
Speaker 2: major American city, and Greg, I feel like we can
Speaker 2: smell the results, and it smells like a tire fire
Speaker 2: in a whole bunch of you know, there's also the
Speaker 2: argument that in a I remember back in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 2: again dating ourselves on this podcast, Bob Dole said that
Speaker 2: tobacco was not addictive, and everyone said, oh, oh my god,
Speaker 2: how could you possibly say that? And Bob Dollwood said
Speaker 2: that he'd smoked for a while, decided he didn't like it,
Speaker 2: quit and never had an issue. All the research I
Speaker 2: did for hunting four horsemen from people's physiologies are different.
Speaker 2: Things that are very addictive to one person is going
Speaker 2: to be not addictive to the other. Right, there are
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people who've smoked marijuana, not become
Speaker 2: addicted and it's not become a problem in their lives.
Speaker 2: There Also, we all know some white guy with dreadlocks
Speaker 2: in college. We all know some guy who got really
Speaker 2: into snoop drug and Cypress Hill and smoking weed became
Speaker 2: their life. And that is, you know, generally not a
Speaker 2: great way to go through life. So I kind of
Speaker 2: I think we have tried legalizing marijuana the states for
Speaker 2: the laboratories and democracy. Colorado led the way, and now
Speaker 2: the entire state of Colorado smells like Willie Nelson. It
Speaker 2: just is this, you know, and I like Denver. I've
Speaker 2: been out there a bunch of times, but you could
Speaker 2: just see it, and you see the number of people
Speaker 2: who are not homeless but who smell like it, and
Speaker 2: the number of people who are homeless and who smell
Speaker 2: like weed. W When actually went out to Boulder, Colorado
Speaker 2: and there's a University of Colorado's out there, deon Sanders
Speaker 2: all that stuff, there was a fascinating display between the
Speaker 2: women's students there and the men's students there. The women's
Speaker 2: students there who are going out to the ski slopes, adorable,
Speaker 2: good looking snow buddies. All of their boyfriends looked absolutely homeless, right,
Speaker 2: Keith Richards would tell these people to click clean up
Speaker 2: their act. That was kind of the seal. And so
Speaker 2: there's just kind of the sense that, Like one, I'm
Speaker 2: not convinced that having widespread access to marijuana has been
Speaker 2: good for America's young people. And yeah, I recognize that
Speaker 2: for some people it's going to be purely recreational, it's
Speaker 2: not going to be addictive, but for some people it is.
Speaker 2: And also for some small percentage of young people, there's
Speaker 2: some studies that indicating it can lead to psychosis. Now,
Speaker 2: lots of people look and sound like Shaggy from Scooby
Speaker 2: Doo and never have a psychotic breakdown, but a handful do,
Speaker 2: and generally the consequences of that are pretty bad. So one,
Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of hand waved away the
Speaker 2: negative consequences of this. And then secondly, I would like,
Speaker 2: you know, make people talk about making America great again.
Speaker 2: I would like to make America's cities smell okay again.
Speaker 2: Now New York City, I understand the marijuana smell is
Speaker 2: covering up the smell of urine. I recognize that there's
Speaker 2: a different rate for different standards for different days, but
Speaker 2: in the stale in San Francisco. Actually, marijuana smell isn't
Speaker 2: that bad because of all the human feces on the sidewalks,
Speaker 2: that's pretty bad too, you know. But adding up to this,
Speaker 2: I think we're starting to see kind of this backlash
Speaker 2: and people recognizing, oh, legalizing marijuana, and people may have
Speaker 2: pictured this idea that people would use it in their
Speaker 2: homes and you wouldn't be smelling it everywhere you went
Speaker 2: in public places and public parks and walking down the street.
Speaker 2: So I would not mind a bit more restrictiveness. I
Speaker 2: would not mind an effort to say, hey, if you're
Speaker 2: going to enjoy this, you should be enjoying this behind
Speaker 2: closed doors someplace where, you you know, not away from
Speaker 2: in the public, away from kids, away from all this stuff.
Speaker 2: So I want to see a little more tougher enforcement
Speaker 2: of restriction of where you can smoke marijuana. Is this
Speaker 2: administration change going to make a huge difference. Probably not,
Speaker 2: But like I said, it's an aditudinal signal that I
Speaker 2: think is ironically running across kind of in a backlash
Speaker 2: from a whole bunch of folks. So like, hmm, this
Speaker 2: doesn't work. And interest in a larger context of drug decriminalization.
Speaker 2: Talk to people in Portland, Oregon who have said, oh, no,
Speaker 2: this has worked out terribly and we need to reverse
Speaker 2: this when you see the sheer number of people who
Speaker 2: have become completely addicted and are basically screaming maniacs out
Speaker 2: on the streets though there.
Speaker 3: So I'm guessing this is going to happen. I don't
Speaker 3: know what kind of research is going to happen here.
Speaker 3: We obviously heard about, you know, minimizing pain for cancer
Speaker 3: patients back when people were trying to push the medical
Speaker 3: marijuana ballot initiatives.
Speaker 2: And a lot of cancer patients in downtowns to cities,
Speaker 2: aren't there. Yeah, everybody's got glaucoma apparently.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So I do love the idea of keeping
Speaker 3: inside though, because it just stinks to go downtown. It
Speaker 3: stinks to go to pretty much any city. I say,
Speaker 3: it stinks in suburbs too, So I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: it's just rampant unfortunately, and nobody. Nobody wants to stop
Speaker 3: it anymore because it's uncool. But uh, maybe there is
Speaker 3: a turning of the tide. I hope you're right about that.
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Speaker 3: All right, Jim, we have what I think is one
Speaker 3: of the first high profile exits announced by this Trump administration.
Speaker 3: I think we had more than a few in the
Speaker 3: first year the first term, including Ryan's previous as chief
Speaker 3: of staff, and a bunch of others as well. But
Speaker 3: Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino has announced on X yesterday,
Speaker 3: I will be leaving my position with the FBI in January.
Speaker 3: I want to thank President Trump, ag Bondi, and Director
Speaker 3: Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose. Most importantly,
Speaker 3: I want to thank you, my fellow Americans for the
Speaker 3: privilege to serve you. God bless America and all those
Speaker 3: who defend her. And so Bongino got confirmed to the
Speaker 3: job in March, and so this is really nine months.
Speaker 3: I guess a couple more weeks before we get into January,
Speaker 3: but that he's already leaving. And I think we started
Speaker 3: to see the fracture around the time that the Epstein
Speaker 3: files did not get released. I think to his satisfaction,
Speaker 3: there seemed to be a lot of frustration. Then they
Speaker 3: released a lot of stories about him being very frustrated
Speaker 3: about that. Other people are saying, you know, pointing to
Speaker 3: interviews he's done where this has been really disruptive for
Speaker 3: his family and he just wants to spend more time
Speaker 3: with them and focus on them. But what do you
Speaker 3: make of the timing of this and what's happened here
Speaker 3: over the last nine months that he's been on the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wrote up a short corner post about this.
Speaker 2: After a rather snarky tweet about this last night, somebody
Speaker 2: reminded me that Bungino had had serious health issues in
Speaker 2: the past. Thankfully made a recovery, But people point out
Speaker 2: that that probably alters the way you look at life
Speaker 2: and what do you want to do with your life
Speaker 2: and how do you want to spend your time. You
Speaker 2: have a wife, you have a kids who are down
Speaker 2: in Florida, You're working at the FBI building all day long,
Speaker 2: you know, not able to get back home on weekends
Speaker 2: very often. Yeah, that would wear on a guy really quickly.
Speaker 2: But the angle I wanted to take on this because
Speaker 2: I started out being snarky and then I thought about
Speaker 2: it and I ended up writing a corner post that said, Hey,
Speaker 2: good for you, Dan Bongino. Bongino was best known for,
Speaker 2: I mean, worked for the Secret Service way back in
Speaker 2: the day, became really well known as a podcaster, and
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm being snide when I say that.
Speaker 2: On that podcast, Dan Bongino embraced a lot of conspiracy theories,
Speaker 2: most notably about Epstein and his death and connections to
Speaker 2: Epstein's clients and all the utterly appalling things that were
Speaker 2: going on around there, and also about the January sixth
Speaker 2: pipe bomber, and which made it a kind of ironic
Speaker 2: that a couple of weeks ago they arrested the guy
Speaker 2: and it was not a result of a vast conspiracy
Speaker 2: that went up to Kamala Harris that one of Bongino's
Speaker 2: guests had put forth, and that Bongino during that interview
Speaker 2: again no skepticism, seems to be buying into this theory
Speaker 2: the whole time. And in the end, it's a guy
Speaker 2: in northern Virginia who looks like Steve Rkle, no vast
Speaker 2: ties to Harris or any greater thing. And then on
Speaker 2: the Epstein stuff. Now, I know we're still waiting for
Speaker 2: the DOJ documents on this, but the FBI put out
Speaker 2: a statement saying we have seen no evidence of he
Speaker 2: was blackmailing anyone. We have seen no evidence that points
Speaker 2: to a good chance for an indictment at somebody else,
Speaker 2: and both in that statement and in several interviews, Bongino
Speaker 2: and cash Ptel have said, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Now, Greg,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but the everything you see
Speaker 2: behind me was actually put up by missus Garrity. But
Speaker 2: every time I need to put something up, I've said, well,
Speaker 2: I better hang this because like Jeffrey Epstein, it's not
Speaker 2: going to hang itself. But it turns out, at least
Speaker 2: according to the best analysis of the FBI and all
Speaker 2: the information that they have reviewed by two guys who
Speaker 2: had gone in extremely inclined to believe that there had
Speaker 2: been some sort of foul play involved, Epstein killed himself
Speaker 2: and it sounded like, you know, Bongino felt hurt that
Speaker 2: people did not take his word on this, and you know,
Speaker 2: he gave a couple of interviews where hecent kind of
Speaker 2: irritated that, like the conspiracy theories were continuing. Dan Bongino
Speaker 2: got into a position of responsibility deputy director of the
Speaker 2: FBI oversaw investigations, and my assuming had his chance to
Speaker 2: win in on how these investigations were progressing and followed
Speaker 2: the evidence, and there was not evidence to support the
Speaker 2: theories that he had believed in as a podcaster, and
Speaker 2: as a result, the investigations came to conclusions that were
Speaker 2: different from what he did as a podcaster. This is
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do in a position of responsibility. Unexpectedly,
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino was the guy who look at conspiracy theories
Speaker 2: and said, you know what, the facts aren't there. It's
Speaker 2: this kid oracle, and you know, there's nothing pointing to
Speaker 2: Epstein being killed by Hillary Clinton or any of these
Speaker 2: other things like that. So Dan Bongino, my head is
Speaker 2: off to you. Good job. That's actually what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do in This didn't last very long, but I
Speaker 2: don't think you can say it's been an uneventful year
Speaker 2: at the FBI. And so I just got to conclude
Speaker 2: Greg by observing as was said in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 2: we're gonna need some more FBI guys.
Speaker 3: Jim, we'll have to call time there. Tomorrow. We will
Speaker 3: hopefully have more good news. I know we've had some
Speaker 3: days where there hasn't been a lot of good news lately.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we finished week strong, fingers crossed.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Greg, see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Jim Garritty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
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