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Speaker 2: Last auguson is chaguv reevosh Nation in Hampshire is leer

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tamil father gilta.

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Speaker 3: Dayden in air grid comedy court, kauchri in vunaher left

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fuinivin vunaher tusrathaway Yellowagan, You're an anger lets on a

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at lard lash chance has a few years Okay, Bunny

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my tree las.

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Speaker 4: Denio Paul into the forester tet Martunker again do nicotine

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at the back agausni shin a fresh and Martin tiring

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an oil rhine August lowerlow enof fin a feery Kiev,

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Paul nicotine to a quarter HC Punk tall slash vaping

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on HC.

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Speaker 3: Man a live man, I like.

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Speaker 5: That man letting butterfly flatten his way, take down in

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the forest, man and gonna cause the tree fall, letting

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five thousand miles away.

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Speaker 6: Man. Nobody say nobody.

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Speaker 1: Else, You don't mean no man like you.

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Speaker 7: Then you get back that last blackly down on.

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Speaker 2: The piano and you don't.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 5: Paul Godfrey, welcome back to the Jay Burton Show. How

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are you doing?

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Speaker 7: I am doing fine. I mean I'm enduring unimaginable cold,

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unimaginable cold weather. Today. The temperature has sunk down to

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about I don't know, about ten degrees. It was about

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fifty degrees two days ago. And it's very hard to

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get our long hair docs and to walk outside. Even

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though he's long hair's he hates the weather. So we

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have to tempt him out with food in order to

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have him make his business.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's always funny to see how how animals

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react to snow, because I have a cat who is

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at all times desperate to get out, but for some reason,

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snow is extra attractive, and so I've been forced to

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turn every entrance in an exit to the house into

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sort of like a fortress, right to try and keep

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this this scoopid cat from running out at one hundred

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miles an hour. What point is right? We're not here

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to just kind of, you know, go back and forth

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about you know, our animals.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 5: You wrote a very good piece for Chronicles talking about

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one of my new favorite figures, Mark Levin, particularly discussing

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what seems to be the preparation for another perch. I myself,

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you know, written a piece on this. It seems as

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if you know where instead, you know, before we just

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called you know, such people as Buchanan and sober and racists.

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The new term is woke right or groper's right to

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people those terms do not apply, but nonetheless right it

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seems that they're going for. So do you want to

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introduce I guess Mark Levin maybe provide a little bit

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more context for who he is because for people my age,

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he sort of appeared out of nowhere and started making

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a fool of himself for the for the sake of

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the neo conservatives.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's one of the most successful figures of what

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I call conservatism incorporated in the United States today, and

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he's made a fortune. I think he owns multiple homes

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in Florida and the other Washington other airplaces, and it

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is probably worth many millions of dollars as a conservative celebrity.

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Now this is not unusual because you know some of

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these people raking tens of millions of dollars by being

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on Fox News, and then they complained about Rachel Maddow

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making probably a pull through. I don't know, ten or

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fifteen million dollars. I'm going to make even more. I

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suspect Levin's income is probably upward of ten million dollars,

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and I may be understating it. And there are certain

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issues in in which he specialized. One of course, is

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Israel and the alliance between American and Israeli democracy, which

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means the United States should obviously pay roll the Israelis

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and support the Leequwood government in Israel, no matter what

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the circumstances. On most domestic issues, he's a very strong

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MAGA supporter. I mean, he's always seems to be on

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and going after the law fair that was waged against

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legal issues, he's very good, and I assume he's a

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well educated constitutional lawyer. But it's when he gets onto

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other subjects that he becomes impossible. And you know, calling

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anyone who disagrees with Israeli's policy and anti Semite, focusing

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on people who don't agree with him, and I don't know,

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on some foreign policy issue, you know, as any these

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of the country or is anti Semits and so forth.

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They sort of shows Mark Levinette's worse. He also has

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a sort of blustering speaking style, which I think was

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particularly evident in his address to the Republican Jewish Conference

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in Las Vegas. And I thought that was an extremely

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revealing speech because much of what I've written about the

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conservative movement over the last forty years has been on

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how they purge people. I was one of the victims

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of an early purge, you know, back in the nineteen eighties,

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and before that, there were other people that got purged,

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but they never talk about this, and instead they divert

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attention from this problem by attacking left wing intolerance and

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left wing left wing narrow mindedness and so forth, when

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in fact, the conservative movement in the United States behaves

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very much like the American com and his party, did

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you know, And they were prosing people in the forties

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and fifties and even earlier, And it's there is very

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much the same kind of mentality which I see there.

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And a party line is established, typically by somebody now

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who works for the Murdoch media, which embraces you know,

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Fox News, the New York Post, National Review, Wall Street Journal,

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and they all seem to take the same position. They

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could they play at the left as using the same rhetoric,

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but they do exactly the same thing. And then there

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are undesirables who are never allowed into the big tent.

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The big tent reaches leftward. They want they need leftist

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talking partners, but they never want to have talking partners

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on the deviationist right, people on the right who disagree

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with them on some important issue. And those people you know,

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suddenly find that they lose their jobs, they lose access

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to conservative what I call cunning conservatism incorporated publications, they're

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not allowed to write for them anymore. This has happened

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to lots and lots of people.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: You can say that, you know, the job market is

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not good to them, or you know, removing people from

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jobs is different than per then than attacking them and

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preventing them from having a livelihood. But the reality is

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that once they go after, they go after you. I mean,

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that was my experience. And you know, as I point out,

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I took a deviationist position on Israel, or was thought

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to have taken a deal. I'm not even sure I

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took a divisionist position, even after forty years, but they

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imagined it was, and they kept me from from academic jobs,

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called up presses and told them not to publish my work,

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and made sure that most most conservative magazines would not

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publish me even a letter that I would send. So,

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I mean, I was pretty much removed. And one of

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my mistake, it seems, was I actually noticed that they

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what they were doing to me. I should have simply

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meekly apologized and begged them, you know, to let me

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back into the club, which I didn't do. But I've

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noticed many other people have suffered the same effects, and

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they have. It has not just been over Israel, it's

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been over an you know, any number of other issues

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in which they have deviated from what has been established

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as a party line. And I thought when Levin gave

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this talk, it was interesting that he said, you know,

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back in the nineteen eighties, we went after this bastard

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so and so, and we're still going after pimple and

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we're going to get more of them, you know, so

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and I mean, for years I've been attacked as paranoid

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for saying the same thing, you know, and he finally

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admitted it. They purge people.

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting thing, right, saying the quiet part out loud,

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that the game worked much better when you never admitted

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what you were doing. You're simply acting according to principle

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instead of saying no, this is a deliberate political persecution.

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It's been interesting to see him apply that same tactic.

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He's developed this phrase where he goes after anti Semites, Islamisists,

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and podcasters, which as a podcaster, I find somewhat funny

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to be included it in that sort of company. And

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as you know, a man who has sort of made

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his bones on radio, right kind of you know, going

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after the new form of that. I understand that, but

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to your point, right, he named several people explicitly right,

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He named Joe Sobrin, he named he named Pat Buchanan.

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And what's interesting is sort of immediately after that clip

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came out, because it's been what six weeks now since

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he said it, there was sort of this very revealing

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sort of uproar on social media where a great number

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of nominally right wing people under the age of forty said, no,

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Pat Buchanan was right, we support him. And I thought

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that was interesting because that tactic that you mentioned of,

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you know, persecuting and going after dissidence, that depended on

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a certain amount of monopoly control. And in a world

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of AM radio and Fox News was much easier to centralize,

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or is now on the Internet, I think it's a

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much harder game to play now. What's been interesting to

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me and I think that you mentioned this in your

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piece The purge at Heritage, I think is sort of

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telling because it seems to me that there is a

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desire to effectively throw out anyone under a certain age

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and basically say they've all they're already poisoned. You know,

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the well has been poisoned. And so if we look

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at both these eternal purges, you know, and also this

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this kind of focus on you know, reaching out to

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your nominal left. If you are interested in running a

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successful place local party, why would you do that. It

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seems like a self defeating mechanism.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's not self defeating in terms of people making

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careers for themselves. Now, this is another point that I've

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made in my writing that you know, the Conservatives of

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the nineteen fifties nineteen sixties were mostly very except for Buckley,

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they were very poor people.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: They, as I said an allobiography, they lived in apostolic poverty.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: They some of them are members of like like living

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from check from retirement check to retirement check. There was

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very very little benefit from being being a Conservative, very

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little financial benefit or mineration. What Conservatism Incorporated has done

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is to turn this into a very lucrative enterprise. So

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you have people making tens of millions of dollars every year.

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And part of the game is, you know, to find

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to do what donors want. And you know, the average

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conservative donor or the people certainly who are you know,

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paying out the big bucks are mostly Zionists. They are

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not social conservatives of any kind. And you know, if

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they have any foreign policy, it's a neo conservative foreign policy.

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And this was certainly applied to the Murdoch family, Paul

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Singer Adelson's any number of these of these big donors,

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oppose gay marriage or on.

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Speaker 7: You know, be be too vocally against abortion or say,

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you know, we have to put back those Confederate statues

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that were torn down. I mean, it's much easier to

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say what Rich Lowry said, that we should remove every

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statue of Robberty Lee because he was eracist, you know,

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the editor of National Review. He's certainly not going to

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lose anything by saying that. Owen Ben Shapiro on I

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think he was writing for town Hall on two thousand

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and three. You know, he spoke about the benefit of

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expelling every Israeli Palestinian because it had worked so well

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when they expelled fifteen million ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe

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after the Second World War. Now nothing will happen to him.

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different media and IQ they'd probably kick them off, you

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know they are. But you know, if you know, or

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if we said the same thing that blacks have, you know,

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our trouble makers, get rid of them or something, obviously

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would be the end of his career. But you know,

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if you say, get rid of these era of these

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Israeli Palestinians, that's fine because the people are giving you

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money to do that. And they also hate Germans because

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of the Nazis, and these are ethnic Germans, so he

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can kick them out of there, even though they weren't Nazis.

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you know, you could say all kinds of about rageous

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things without losing the actually about losing support from your benefactors,

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and in fact gaining the support of your benefactors. But

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you have to you have to sort of pick your battles,

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you know, and know when to say outrageous things. So,

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you know, it's become a game, kind of professional game,

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and you make a career. Somebody who was the roommate

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of Rich Lowry, I mean, he told me this that

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he really didn't care much about politics. He was a

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big New York Yankees fan. That's all he seemed to

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care about. I'm not a Yankee fan. I'm a Dodger fan,

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but I'll let that go.

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Speaker 6: But the.

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Speaker 7: You know, he sort of made politics his business and

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has always taken conventional neo conservative positions, you know, and

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it's done very well financially. I mean he earns, you know,

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ten or fifteen times every year what I earn as

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the editor of Chronicles, so you know, he has very

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rich benefactors. But you know, it's become a game. It

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was not a game for Frank Meyer, Will Herberg, James Burnham,

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all these other people, Kirk, all these other people in

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the early conservative movement. They believe what they believed, you know,

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when they went against the grain, and most of them

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never made any money out of this. So conservatism incorporated

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is very different.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's basically like you know, investing in the stock market

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or something like that. And I think deep conviction has

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very little to do why those people are there.

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Speaker 5: Additionally, there's been kind of a move to sort of

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blame expected electoral setbacks in twenty twenty six on the radicals.

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I've got two citations for this, both of which will

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be in an upcoming article on my sub stack. One

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self proclaimed conservative luminary brill In Hollyhand writes articles himself,

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allegedly not entirely share that he's writing them, but he

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wrote an article about this saying, effectively, you know, if

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we countenance these sort of people and they do what

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they always do, which is find someone saying something particularly

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objectionable and say everyone who disagrees with me signs on

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to that statement, well, we are throwing elections away and

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we need to return to electability. We need to return

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to effectively a Mitt Romney figure. Have you seen this

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sort of argumentation propping up you know, the idea that, look,

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this happens to every president in his second term. Generally

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he loses the midterms, right, this just happens. But to

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blame that sort of bit of sort of I guess

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you'd say electoral physics and use that as a excuse

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to begin a purge.

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Speaker 2: No, I.

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Speaker 7: Think that this is what I would expect from the

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conservative establishment. That the reason to have all these people

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voting for a candidate who says there's thirty five different

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genders and men can give birth to babies is that

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we have Nick Faluentes, you know, writing on the far right,

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and he has driven all these people in which of

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course is utter nonsense. I mean, the reality is these

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people have done nothing to control the momentum of the

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wake left or the woke left, which is getting stronger

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and stronger in the United States. I'm revealing this book

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called the Polarization Myth. It's a neo conservative favorite they

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put out, which argues that Americans have given up on

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wokeness and we've all taken moderate positions on politics and

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so forth. Well, the interesting is, most of the statistics

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in that book would suggest exactly the opposite. Is suggests that,

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you know that the woke left is romping all over

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the place, that only thirties one or thirty two percent

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of parents even object to having transgendered men put in

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girls lock. The figures are absolutely appalling about how powerful

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the wolk left has become in the United States. And

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this is a battle that Conservatism Incorporated has simply refused

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to fight. There's no gain in it. You know, their

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sponsors wanted to talk about Israel, about how bad Putin is,

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you know, and how we all have to stand for

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democratic values. I mean, basically, neo conservative warmed up with

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neo conservative positions and then talk about how great MAGA is,

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you know, And of course MAGA is understood in the

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same way that you know the neo It's something that

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they try to assimilate to a kind of Conservatism incorporated

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or neo conservative model. But they have done nothing on

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the social moral front. The ones who have been fighting

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these battles are like the Christian right. I mean, those

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are the only ones who seemed to be fighting them.

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But the conservative movement has given simply given up everything

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to the enemy. And now they dig up, you know,

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they dig up Nick Fouentes or somebody to blame this on.

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The other thing that I think is a total is

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that people are voting for the left because of affordability. Well, somehow,

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affordability was not an issue when Joe Biden was president

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and had these leftist handlers, right, he did very well

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in midterms. There were higher inflation, more unemployment, ten to

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twenty million illegals being dragged being brought into the country

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by the Democratic Party, causing chaos in every city. Yet

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he did very well in elections because he represented the

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wok left, which is much more powerful than Conservatism Incorporated

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is willing to concede. They also pretend that things are

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happening that have never happened, Like all these black people

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are running into the Republican Party. That's not happening. You know,

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this is made up a women. Women are tired of,

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you know, not being wives and mothers, so they're voting

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for the Republican Party. No they're not, you know. So

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they basically lie about how weak their position is and

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how weak they have made it, you know, and then

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blame it on some you know, some clown on the

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far right who's causing everybody. But for some reason, all

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these people are willing to vote for the left, although

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the left sanctions anti Semitism, riots, all kinds of other stuff,

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you know, they behave with the indecency of the Nazi

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Party on its way to power. Yet people don't care.

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They vote for the Democrats. They're happy to vote for

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the Democrats, you know, the party of antifond, so they'll

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vote for it. So somehow, the extremism on the other

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side is not a problem. The extremism on our side

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is supposedly a problem because people are so turned off

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by Nick Fouentes or Tucker Carlson that that's why they're

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voting for the left. I mean, it's a total it's

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a total diversion from reality that these people are giving us.

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Speaker 5: I think that, if anything, the language on affordability is

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sort of a rake that Donald Trump has stepped on. So,

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for instance, for people you know I who have basically

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tried to get jobs since twenty twenty, the market, particularly

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for young white man has been very rough. And so

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when you hear a SoundBite that says Donald Trump saying, well,

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the affordability crisis is a Democrat hoax, not once but twice,

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even if that does not make you a Democrat, it

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brings up the well, why should I care about you?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 5: You know, okay, like do I just owe this to you?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 5: There's there's one thing I think is relevant as well.

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Speaker 6: There the.

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Speaker 5: Language around you who ought to be appealed To's an

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interesting quote from an article Rod Dreer wrote not too

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long ago. And in this piece he is quoting an

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alleged Republican staffer. I say, because Rodreer has quoted me

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and made up a quote just completely something did not happen.

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So he says someone said this, Well, I'll leave it

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at that, But the quote is quoting a Rodreer's words,

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Maga Zoomer policy wonk who is a person of color,

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so quoting the staffer. These idiots don't understand that they

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can't win an election on a whites only platform. They're delusional.

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There are a lot of immigrants and native born members

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of ethnic groups who are natural Republicans and who Donald

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Trump won in twenty twenty four. Take Indians for example.

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If you think they're going to stick with a movement

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whose leader Fuentez denounces Usha Vance as a racial slur,

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you're crazy. But that's how they think. Several things there

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which is interesting. One that natural conservatives line is one

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that has been around my entire life and has yet

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to materialize. Two, the assertion that Donald Trump won Indians

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is a lie. He only lost sixty percent of the vote,

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which is okay, better than previously, But losing by twenty

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points or losing by ten points rather is still losing dramatically, right.

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That is not a good uh, That is not a

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good I guess electoral strategy. And so again it's so

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frustrating to see this sort of backsliding where that phrase

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natural conservatives or you know, natural Republicans has been around

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for so long, and the idea that well, that's the

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old playbook we need to run again when it has

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so far, as I understand, never worked at all, is

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incredibly frustrating.

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Speaker 7: You might want to write on that for Chronicles magazine.

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I agree with you entirely. That's a very good point.

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Uh yeah. They very often though, they'll look at how

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people answer survey questions, and up until about ten years ago,

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blacks were the most conservative of any demographic and how

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they would except maybe for religious right, and how they

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would answer survey questions because they were against abortion, against

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gay marriage, and so forth. They're also probably the most

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leftist voting block in the United States, and there is

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no effect that as and how they vote. So these

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natural conservatives vote, you know, vote for the other side

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all the time. And you know, considering how much effort

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in money and other stuff is put into you know,

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raising the number of the percentage of Blacks voting it

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to Republicans by two percent, three percent, they could you know,

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expend the same energy picking up more white votes.

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Speaker 7: I live in an area in which you know a

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lot of white people who are who are in fact

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conservative Republicans, don't vote. You know, there's not enough done

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to recruit them as voter. There's very little. What they've

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done is they've tried to pick up minorities. We're not

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going to you know, who are certainly in the case

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of blacks, but even in the case of Indians, you know,

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there's a very limited number you're going to be able

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to pick up where whereas you can pick up wats

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and lots of white votes, they're not going after there.

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I'm not saying that you should only go after white votes,

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but they're not doing a very good job with them.

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almost uh expression of guilt of you know, racial social

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guilt that causes them to you know, to speak about,

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you know, how we have these natural conservatives who are

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not white, we're going to go after when you know,

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I don't. I don't think the the harvest of votes

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justifies the uh, the the investment efforts that are that

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are being made, and the way they talk about this.

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You know, you turn on Fox News, blacks are coming

476
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,319
home to the Well, it's not happening, Blacks having you know,

477
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,720
voted in the majority for the Republican Party since nineteen

478
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,119
thirty two. So I mean, this is this is this

479
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is not you say, well, we're going to pick up more. Well,

480
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:54,079
I noticed in the last election, the you know, the

481
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,359
additional black votes that that Trump picked up, you know,

482
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went back. They just weren't there for the the Can

483
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,960
Party anymore. So I think I think this is largely

484
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wasted effort.

485
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's important to make a distinction between

486
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conservative of their culture and conservative of the country. For instance,

487
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,640
the smalli immigrants are a great example of this. If

488
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you asked that same community, you know, the sort of

489
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has spread of you know, questions about religion and you

490
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440
know sex or sex and gender roles, they would no

491
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doubt be to the right of basically everyone saved the

492
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,400
Westboro Baptist Church. Right, that does not keep them from

493
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920
being involved in the largest fraud ring in the history

494
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,480
of United States welfare because ultimately in illin Omar is

495
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,119
a great example of this. They are blood and soil nationalists, yes,

496
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:47,279
but for them, not for you. And this is painfully

497
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:50,160
obvious to anyone who's actually been paying attention. But there

498
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,759
is this desire and I think it really is the

499
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fulfillment of you know, the the dream quote unquote which

500
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:00,200
we understand, we say what you mean that of the

501
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,240
civil rights movement, right, which is to finally, you know,

502
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,480
we will be redeemed because we have the approval of

503
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,039
this client group of the Democratic Party. And again, a

504
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
well run country would benefit all of its citizens. But

505
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,519
the idea that you can counter just pure and naked

506
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,000
patronage free stuff with you know, these kind of airy

507
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:29,759
conservative values or a candidate who's of an appropriate skin tone.

508
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It simply does not materialize. In my own state in Virginia,

509
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,920
we learned that lesson when some earl Sears made no

510
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dent on the massive Republican Republican deficit with either blacks

511
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
or women at all, she got blown out of the water.

512
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And yet seemingly this is a playbook that will be

513
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run forever. There's no there's no legitimate counter argument to

514
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it from within you know conservative ink.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 7: Two points. First of all, if these Somalis vote for

517
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,359
the Democratic Party, that is an expression of ethnic nationalism,

518
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because you know, the Democratic Party is the party for

519
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,200
their minority group, you know, as opposed to the uh

520
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,119
you know, the white people who or the enemy or

521
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,200
the opponents or the outgroup. So that you know, holding

522
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:28,119
conservative values for your own group, but voting for the

523
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,559
left is perfectly consistent given the mindset you know of

524
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:38,119
these of the ethnic minority. This goes so far. I mean,

525
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you could see even a country like England Catholics for

526
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,680
a very long time may have changed. We're very conservative

527
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,200
on cultural social issues, but voted for the left because

528
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,960
they weren't members of the Anglican Church right, and they

529
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,400
had a history being persecuted in the country. So the

530
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,359
fact that people have conservative values has never meant that

531
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they're going to be conservative in relation to an outgroup,

532
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,720
the majority outgroup. I go through this in my book

533
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,920
on Leo Strauss, will say he was so conservative he

534
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,960
was like a fascist. Well, he was very conservative and

535
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,559
Jewish politics. He supported the revision of Zionists on the right.

536
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,759
There's no indication he was on the right in German

537
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,400
politics right, and he was, you know, he was a

538
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,839
Democrat in the United States for a very long time,

539
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,799
although I think he did vote for vote for Barry

540
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:33,680
Goldwater because he didn't like Kennedy's dealings with krush Cheff

541
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:39,000
in terms of the you know, atomic disarmament talks that

542
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,960
took place during the Kennedy administration. But there's no reason

543
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,839
to assume that because somebody is conservative in his own community,

544
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,039
he's going to be conservative, you know, in taking a

545
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:54,720
position together, taking a position within an out group community.

546
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So I think you're entirely right on that point. But

547
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I think a lot of this hope that we're going

548
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:05,440
to sort of realize the vision of Martin Luther King,

549
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who of course was not in favor, was not opposed

550
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,599
to affirmative action. He's strongly supported affirmative action and also

551
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,400
supported socialism and all kind of communist advisors and so forth.

552
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,440
But the whole cult of Martin Luther King, I think

553
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,359
what you have in the concern the what I said,

554
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,160
the Boomer conservative movement, which is conservatives of a certain age,

555
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,599
I think goes together with a you know, a deep

556
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,000
sense of guilt or responsibility for the inequalities suffered by

557
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:45,759
blacks and the American past. I think the other thing

558
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:49,759
you see is in absolutely over the top philo Semitism,

559
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,200
because we Christians persecuted Jews, of course, not the American Christians,

560
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,480
but Christians somewhere else at some other point in history.

561
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So we have to sendhow attuned for that by being

562
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,799
like three hundred percent anti anti Semitic. And I think

563
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,079
there are certain attitudes to which people like like Marko

564
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,400
Levin can play the blacks on Fox News and so forth.

565
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,000
But I think these sensibilities are found almost entirely among

566
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,960
Boomer the Boomer Republicans, Republicans of a certain generation, who

567
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,400
are always trying to prove that although they were Republicans.

568
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,880
They were not racists, and they were not anti Semites,

569
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,480
and they were very sensitive on these issues, and as

570
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,920
you said, bringing bringing the depth of blacks into the

571
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,679
Republican Party as a kind of redemption for themselves. And

572
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,920
I think this is what drives them to pursue what

573
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,679
I think is a lunatic strategy. We had a Carl

574
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,920
horrowoz Srow a piece for Chronicles, you know, showing the

575
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:52,079
failure of Republicans recruiting the blacks. I mean, just says

576
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,760
that's not worked and says, you know, why would they

577
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,079
do anything that stupid? It's not working, and so you

578
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:00,719
can spend your money, your resource, is your efforts on

579
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,760
some other group. And you know, I Carl doesn't really answer.

580
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400
My answer is because these people do feel guilty and

581
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,119
they don't want the left calling them racists. You know,

582
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I mean I know them in their mentality. Uh so

583
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,960
you know they're Therefore, there's this other thing that somehow

584
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,480
they're going to lose an election because of Tucker Carlson

585
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:26,719
or Nick Faluentes. Is is delusional. I mean I can

586
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,559
think of a thousand other reasons why they lose an election.

587
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 5: Well, and MLK sort of exists as a secular saint.

588
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There's the literal man, right who thought what he thought

589
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and did what he did. But he sort of ascended into.

590
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Speaker 7: A Yes, he isn't sankthood, you know, I mean he was,

591
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,920
he was sanctified and canonized and so forth. He he is,

592
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He is, you know, almost kind of living god. He's

593
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,840
not living anymore, but he has a kind of godlike character.

594
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Speaker 5: By now, well exactly, and you see that the left

595
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has really been well and truly done with MLK for

596
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longer than I've been alive. Progressives speak dismissively about MLK

597
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,239
and conservatives using that sort of rhetoric. I don't pretend

598
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to be an expert on you know, contemporary black politics,

599
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but very few figures speak reverently about m OK.

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Speaker 6: You know.

601
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Speaker 5: Sure you have the kind of older generation, you know,

602
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,079
Al Sharpton and others who will mention him, but realistically

603
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it is it is effectively a figure of as you said,

604
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conservatives of a certain era that is where he exists,

605
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,519
that is who promulgates his cold and again the thing

606
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:50,760
that I and I was actually just speaking to my

607
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,239
wife about this, but I think conservatives have a hard

608
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time wrapping their head around the fact that for many

609
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of these client groups, they view the Democrat Party as

610
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,960
exactly that, as a patron client relationship, something where they

611
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:11,639
are effectively paid off, either directly or indirectly, for their support.

612
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And so again, why would anyone give up that position?

613
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,119
You get paid, you get preferential treatment on loans, government contracts.

614
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960
I mean, look at the fact that you know, black

615
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,360
women have you know, I think the highest educational achievement

616
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,719
percentage wise of any group in America. Most of that

617
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,440
at government expense. Again, they're being paid for their support.

618
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And so no amount of what's effectively moralizing, right, no

619
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amount of well, really, it would be better if you

620
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,280
didn't have all of these handouts and you competed in

621
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,960
the free market rationally. As you've said, why would anyone

622
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,639
take that deal? You're offering them less? And I don't

623
00:37:57,639 --> 00:37:59,840
think that's a good thing to have a society run

624
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,079
on gross patronage that way, But it's simply how it works.

625
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And so again, right, if we're talking about why are

626
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:11,519
the Republicans hurting in elections, a big part of it

627
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is that they were seen to who knows how close

628
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:18,559
they were able to accomplish this to disrupting that network

629
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of patronage. In my own state, they went after government workers,

630
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,000
who are roughly eight percent of people with a job

631
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:30,440
in my state, concentrated in populous areas, disproportionately wealthy, and so,

632
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,840
whether rightly or wrongly, it was assumed that that was

633
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,400
the fault of Republicans writ large, who is the Republican?

634
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,679
Now you have a large number of people who are

635
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,000
financially incentivized to keep a Democrat in office. So, again,

636
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,000
that has nothing to do with anything Nick Fuentt has

637
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:50,719
Tucker Carlson or what's interesting that jd Vance seems to

638
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,440
get looped into this as well. It is quite simply

639
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,400
you threatened their paycheck. It's not nearly that complicated.

640
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's more than just I agree with

641
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:05,000
you about the paycheck. But the Democrats provide a moral

642
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,480
argument for why we should give you that paycheck any

643
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,360
even more money, because they are a collection of grievance groups,

644
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,400
you know, and which include white women, blacks, other minorities, right,

645
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,480
government workers obviously, and all of these people.

646
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Speaker 8: You didn't deserve what happened, and it doesn't have to

647
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Speaker 7: Not only get preference from the Democratic Party, but the

664
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Democratic Party presents them as victim groups to whom we

665
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have to give special benefits because of past discrimination. And

666
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if you do not want to talk about this past discrimination,

667
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,960
those groups become very upset at this point. So if

668
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the Republican parties of somebody, some black Republican on Fox says, well,

669
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,320
blacks don't want to be treated as victims they want

670
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to be treated like everybody else. The answer is no,

671
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they want to be treated as victims. They want to

672
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get these benefits, and they want to be given a

673
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moral argument for why they are victims and deserve more benefits,

674
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so that the two go together, and their Republicans are

675
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misrepresenting them, you know, miss and saying things that they

676
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,559
obviously do not believe to make them vote for the

677
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Republican Party.

678
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Speaker 13: Uh.

679
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Speaker 7: And the same thing is to with other other groups

680
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that that lgbt Q, all all these other grievance groups,

681
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that they're going to give them special benefits. And the

682
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,559
anti discrimination laws of course have the effect of improving

683
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:31,679
the job prospects of all these groups or improving your

684
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,960
other benefits. Right because once once you decide that these

685
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people have been discriminated against and you're gonna have to

686
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hire them otherwise the government is going to come after

687
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,159
you or they or they can say the reason you

688
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,960
did hire me for this job is because I'm black,

689
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,920
or I'm gay, or I'm transgendered. So this gives them,

690
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gives them a sort of a leg up, you know,

691
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and applying for positions and getting into universities and so forth.

692
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So the anti discrimination laws are not just against discrimination.

693
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They get special benefits, financial and other benefits to the

694
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groups that they that they that they claim to be protecting.

695
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Speaker 4: Well.

696
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Speaker 5: And additionally, you see a sort of similar discussion revolving

697
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around law enforcement. I'm sure we are all aware of,

698
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,639
you know, population level disparities and crime rate, and so

699
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,400
that becomes a proxy issue for quote unquote oppression. So,

700
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for instance, you have this case out of the Pacific

701
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,280
Northwest where a man has just been cleared of stabbing

702
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:39,239
someone because in the commission of a separate crime, this

703
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,880
person used the racial slur right while being robbed, and

704
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,760
that you know, sped him into a rage, and so

705
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he took out a knife and stabbed him, and the

706
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,760
jury acquitted him. You know, it's sort of the same

707
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,960
level of deference given to you know, a Japanese samurai,

708
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,960
where if a peasant insults him, he can you know,

709
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,239
pull out his sword and cut him down with no

710
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,039
legal repercussion. Again, to be all principles aside to be

711
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:09,400
given that sort of legal deference right where if you

712
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,039
can in any way you inject an element of perceived prejudice,

713
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,239
you are simply allowed to act however you want. That

714
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,199
is an incredible political reward, and when the alternative is

715
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,159
returning to a level playing field, perceived or otherwise, that

716
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,840
is not a good sales tactic. Whereas you know what

717
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,480
is being offered to, shall we say, voting populations that

718
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:39,599
have historically supported the conservative movement, right the H one

719
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,639
b soga where you know, over I think it's one

720
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:45,719
point five million Indians by the end of the year

721
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,519
will be here on H one b's who would have

722
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:53,199
had those jobs otherwise, professional educated white people who okay,

723
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,119
sure have not gone for Trump in every election, but

724
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,320
are much much closer than those other groups we've mentioned,

725
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,599
And you don't even necessarily have to give them anything.

726
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,079
You just have to say your job will not be taken.

727
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,679
It's a much easier, much less expensive move to move

728
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,039
to make. But nonetheless right that mythical importance of African

729
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:20,960
American sort of sanction matters more than the actual achievable

730
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:22,800
electoral goals, at least seemingly so.

731
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 7: No, I think I think you're right. Republicans should not

732
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,280
go after votes, says as cleverly as the Democrats do,

733
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:34,719
But they also don't use the rhetoric that all these

734
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,599
grievance groups want to hear, which I think is important. Like,

735
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,559
you know, if we were to look at the Obamas,

736
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,239
would say that Michelle Obama was obviously a beneficiary of

737
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,400
affirmative action. I think she went to Princeton or you

738
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,280
listen to her speech. She does not seem to be

739
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,480
cut from the same material as these Princeton graduates that

740
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:00,360
are undergraduates. I knew, as you know, as a student,

741
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:05,079
her husband got some other and these are affirmative action

742
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:10,599
deals that they got. But the Democrats, the Republicans will say,

743
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:13,559
you see, she got preferential treatment. Were Democrats who say, no,

744
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,159
this makes up for all the millennia of discrimination against blacks,

745
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,719
against women. And she's perfectly right in being angry and

746
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,880
you know, attacking white racists all around herb because this

747
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,719
is what our society is like, and try to overcome

748
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,199
so that the minorities are felt good. I made to

749
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,320
feel good about getting these privileges. You know, you deserve them,

750
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,480
and we're going to give them out to all these

751
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:44,119
grievance groups, and we're going to give you preferential treatment

752
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,880
for all kinds of things. The question is for me

753
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:52,400
is why are white males not angrier about this? Since

754
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,639
they are, they're on the losing end. And from what

755
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,000
I can tell you, what a majority of white males

756
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:04,000
voting voting for the Democrat a gubernatorial candidate in New

757
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,559
Jersey and in Virginia, you know, I mean, I think

758
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:11,760
these people would be voting the other way. I mean,

759
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,039
you try to keep these keep your enemies from being elected.

760
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,760
And this does seem to be that. This seemed to

761
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,719
be the case in the presidential race. I think over

762
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,400
sixty percent of white males voted for Trump. But it

763
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,599
doesn't seem thedication any longer. And I wonder what gain

764
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,760
there is for these these white males to vote for

765
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,480
There would be oppressors.

766
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,559
Speaker 5: I think, and this is in the case of New Jersey.

767
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:43,840
This is pure conjecture, but I think that astonishingly poor

768
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,920
candidate selection is a part of it. You see a

769
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,559
similar mechanism in the UK. So labor wins a massive majority,

770
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,440
how do they win it? Well, did they win or

771
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,159
did the Conservatives lose? And what you see is that

772
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,119
in the case of their most recent election, conservative state home,

773
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,800
they quite simply did not vote. And so in my

774
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,760
own state, right with Winsome Earl Sears, who I've spent

775
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,320
quite a long time making fun of No one wanted

776
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,719
to vote for her. At best, the most you could

777
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,599
get was, well, we'll keep a Democrat out. But in

778
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,840
the case of you know, Spanberger, she was actually quite

779
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,119
a good candidate from the level of being able to

780
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,599
keep all of the craziness under wraps. She believes incredibly

781
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,719
radical things, but on the campaign trail she was able

782
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,760
to paint herself as a moderate Democrat. You and I

783
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,039
understand that that isn't true. But for the vast majority

784
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:40,079
of people, incredibly weak Republican candidate, a Democrat who can

785
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,639
clean up her act and you know, seems to be responsible,

786
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:48,800
doesn't motivate anyone to get out and vote. I know

787
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,239
less about New Jersey, but I think additionally, you have

788
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,159
a Republican party that is allergic to you know, quote

789
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,559
unquote identity politics, is allergic to saying anything positive about

790
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,920
white people are Europe or the West writ large, unless

791
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,760
it is couched in this kind of moral universalist language,

792
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,159
which waters it down to the point of meaninglessness. So

793
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,519
you have these sort of you know, these these sort

794
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:18,679
of aphorisms, you know, these kind of vague, fluffy statements

795
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,800
about you know, securing a future for everyone, and you know,

796
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,559
everyone is an American, or everyone can be an American.

797
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,880
And when you're looking around saying, well, no, this is mine,

798
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,480
this is my place, and you seem willing to effectively

799
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:36,199
sell out to interests from elsewhere, India's you know, merely

800
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,400
the kind of largest offender. Well, I'm not. You're not

801
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:44,480
entitled to my support. Again, it is perhaps rational to

802
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:49,920
vote for a bad Republican, but most elections are not rational, right,

803
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,159
It's an emotional game.

804
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:57,559
Speaker 7: Yeah. The the election of Jersey, though, was curious because

805
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:04,239
the candidate, the Republican candidate, only lost in the last

806
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,760
gubernatorial race by about three or four points. Now he

807
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,480
lost by over twenty points running against a weaker opponent,

808
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,920
and his opponent was not at all shy about, you know,

809
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:22,159
taking non moderate, woke positions. She did take them, and

810
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,920
Chitarelli actually you know, fought back and said that these

811
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,440
are crazy positions, and she was taking them quite openly.

812
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,960
She also favored turning New Jersey I don't know if

813
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000
it is a sanctuary state or making it into a

814
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,760
sanctuary state. Yet she won by over twenty points, and

815
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,280
the white male vote turned to I think he went

816
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,039
over sixty percent of that vote, which was very unusual.

817
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:52,519
Speaker 5: And well to sort of no no to. You sent

818
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,320
me an article that or you mentioned in our email correspondence,

819
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,519
an article you wrote explaining exactly this, that the Democrats

820
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:04,320
within their own coalition are rewarded for radicalism. And look,

821
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:08,360
I don't believe it, but the things that the Trump

822
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,559
administration is doing or was doing, by sort of attacking

823
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,679
the patronage networks, the government bloat right or also the

824
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,199
immigration is effectively red meat for progressives. This is fascism,

825
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,360
and so it's the perfect time to lean into radicalism,

826
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at least from that perspective.

827
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Speaker 7: No, I agree with you, But I think the problem

828
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,000
is that when Trump does the right thing, and I

829
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,679
think we would agree that, you know, going after these

830
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,840
the government patronage network and going and trying to limit immigration,

831
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,280
these are the right things, but he's going to lose

832
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,679
because the other side has more votes. And I've you know,

833
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,480
I've arrived at this position very painfully and reluctantly. But

834
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:55,000
I think I think the woke left, by now the

835
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:57,880
woke left, and the left generally has more votes than

836
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,679
the other side, and most of the independents probably lean

837
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,840
in that direction as well. And that's what I mean.

838
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 14: I was.

839
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 7: I was of two minds about the election in the

840
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,480
seventh district in Tennessee. I thought the Republican did pull

841
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:17,599
it out by nine points, but Nashville went over eighty

842
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:21,760
percent for this woman who sounded crazy to me. I

843
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,519
mean that men can give birth their thirty or forty

844
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,679
different gender. I mean, I think she was saying we're insane.

845
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,079
But I think a lot of people believe that, or

846
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:34,000
are at least comfortable with that. But with that kind

847
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,920
of belief and I think I think the woke left

848
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:40,920
has been very powerful and gaining ground for many decades

849
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,400
by now, and the right has not fought back at all.

850
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 14: Well.

851
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Speaker 5: I think in this sort of dovetails into a conversation

852
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:58,920
about affordability, that many people feel as if they are

853
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,679
downwardly mobile, and so these sort of luxury beliefs offer

854
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,280
a way to signal social status in a way their

855
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,119
wealth cannot back up, and so that ability to set

856
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:16,719
to set what is seen as high class, what is

857
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,320
seen as broadly speaking, laudable. I mean, this is the

858
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point that Jarvin makes with the cathedral.

859
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,519
Speaker 14: You know, the way your energy bill turns up and

860
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you start doing maths you haven't touched since the leaving start.

861
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Speaker 7: Yeah, not with you Know Energy.

862
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Speaker 14: With you Know Energy, you get monthly bill predictions, track

863
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what you're using by the hour, and even see where

864
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you're overspending.

865
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: It's the tumble dryer.

866
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Speaker 14: It's always the tumble dryer. With you Know Energy, it's

867
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868
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Speaker 15: With three five G home broadband you can get reliable

872
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to location availability and device s beats Mayberry.

878
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Speaker 10: To three d.

879
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Speaker 5: AE right that if you can control the sort of

880
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,440
the engine of social status, you have the rest of

881
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:24,239
society by the nose. I think that's what we're witnessing. Look,

882
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,239
the number of people going to college is almost ever

883
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,280
increasing as a percentage, while the economic value of that

884
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,039
college degree is going down. I believe Bloomberg said that

885
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:37,199
for white men, at least in every other group shortly

886
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,199
behind them, the earnings have now reached parity between high

887
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,039
school graduates and college graduates. And so you have an

888
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:47,480
immense amount of people who have done what they were

889
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,519
supposed to do to set themselves up. They are suddenly

890
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,119
effectively working class despite their education. And well, if I

891
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:58,000
can't compete on a financial level, well I will simply

892
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:02,079
ape the mannerism of the ruling elite. So I think

893
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:03,760
that's a good part of it as well, especially in

894
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,360
a town like Nashville, which is a collecting sort of

895
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,159
strivers and young people from across the world, has become

896
00:54:11,159 --> 00:54:15,840
a huge destination for rootless people across America.

897
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,199
Speaker 7: No, I think I think you're right. I mean, associating

898
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,920
with with all these these leftist lunacies becomes a vehicle

899
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,880
of improving, for improving your social status. That and I've

900
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,519
seen this, you know, with with younger people, even my

901
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:35,840
own family, so that that uh, suddenly they decide that

902
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,079
you know, uh, having transgendered in girls' lockers is a

903
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:42,440
fine thing, because we're not bigot age, you know, we

904
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,199
we understand this and so forth, Whereas you know, I

905
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:51,000
hold views which in their mind are reactionary views which

906
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:55,119
you know, only uh fundamentalists living in Western Georgia or

907
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,079
something would would would would believe. So I think I

908
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:02,679
think that that's that's part of the cultural ground that

909
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,639
we've lost. I'm not that big a fan of Jarvin,

910
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,199
but I am a Gramscian. I mean, I'm a great

911
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,280
fan of Antonio Gramsci even though he was a co

912
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,599
founder of the Italian Communist Party while he was in

913
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,159
exile put an exel by the fascist government of Italy.

914
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,559
But I think he's correct that what distinguishes the modern

915
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:27,679
period from earlier periods is that a lot of power,

916
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,480
power over the city, what he would call the cultural superstructure,

917
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:42,719
determines the belief system among everybody else and most people

918
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,280
except what he was saying was the was called the

919
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:51,079
cultural hugemony or the hegemonic ideology, and that's what we

920
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:53,239
have in America today. I mean, there is no right

921
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,280
that I can speak of. The right is nothing the

922
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,079
sort of a collection of people getting money from the

923
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:01,079
Murdoch media and from the Murdoch fan or something like that.

924
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:05,119
But there's a very powerful left, and it occupies all

925
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,760
the cultural centers and the people who put it there

926
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,679
were intellectuals, writers, uh, producers of producers of popular culture,

927
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,679
so called educators broadly understood, and government workers, and they

928
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,239
have created the the dominant ideology and have been able

929
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,840
to impose it on everybody. Genienoveji when he was a

930
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,400
when he was still a Marxist, angered other marx As

931
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,920
more progressive Marxist by suggesting that slaves believed what the

932
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,519
masterclass believed. They said, we took over the beliefs because

933
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:46,480
these these are this was the hegemonic ideology, and I

934
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:48,719
believe the same thing is true about the wolf left today.

935
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:52,519
It is the view of people in power, you know,

936
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:57,000
which which everybody else uh tries to absorb, to imitate

937
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:01,800
because they're they're they're so you economic, their their cultural

938
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,880
positions would be determined by, you know, how how profoundly

939
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,280
woke they can become, how much they how much they

940
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,119
can take over the views of the people who are

941
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:15,400
actually running our society. And those people are not Donald Trump,

942
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,559
and they're not Maga through the opportunity to that point.

943
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:24,199
Speaker 5: One of the numbers that made a lot of headlines

944
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,000
a few years ago, during the whole COVID debacle, was

945
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:33,519
that twenty two percent of Generation Z is LGBTQ. It's

946
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,239
somewhat absurd. When you dig into it, you see the

947
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,719
vast number of that is women who self report is bisexual.

948
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,440
Right now, you dig another layer down and you're like, okay, well,

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how many of you have been in a relationship with

950
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a woman? That number drops to dramatically yes, because the

951
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operative mechanism there is not necessarily in your same sex attraction.

952
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It is a desire for social status, a desire to

953
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be seen as interesting, progressive, because there was a huge

954
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,840
amount of social cachet to be gained. This is a

955
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,679
very stupid example, but there was a It was Conde

956
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nas own this food magazine Bone Appetite, and this relatively

957
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:20,679
untalented Indian chef, Indian female chef, basically tore the whole

958
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:24,840
company apart with the claims of supposed oppression. I'm not

959
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entirely sure that this magazine, headquartered in Manhattan, was particularly racist,

960
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,000
but nonetheless she was able to, you know, blow that up.

961
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The magazine is still there in sort of a rump

962
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state and parachute into a cushy job at the New

963
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:41,440
York Times. She was rewarded for that sort of behavior.

964
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And sure, you know, you or I might not be

965
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you know, Indian, that might be a little hard to fake.

966
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,440
But if you can say, oh, well, you know, I

967
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,719
may have kissed a man once or twice, all of

968
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,800
a sudden you have increased your sort of market value. Right,

969
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:58,800
and again that is directly a direct result of this

970
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,639
sort of top down cultural hegemony.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the question is how do these people who seem

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to me to be absolute lunatics come to control our society?

973
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And by lunatics, I mean they're their ideology seems far

974
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:21,000
far for me, far less believable than Nazism, Communism, any

975
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:25,400
any any these other tutalitarians. And they are toutlitarians, but

976
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,119
they're soft utalitarians. You know, they made unleash mobs on

977
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,599
us and you know, having teetha beat up people and

978
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,159
burn their on their cars. But for the most part

979
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it's sort of soft power that they're using.

980
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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 7: Their fox is not lions, right, Their foxes not to

982
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,960
use z the Machiavelli's term. Right, their foxes not lions.

983
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,559
So the question is why have they been so successful

984
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:50,719
not only in the United States, but throughout the Western world,

985
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,599
throughout the anglosphere, they're in power everywhere. These people, how

986
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:56,920
did they get there? They're not in power and Hungary

987
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,679
and that's why they hate the Hungarian government because it's

988
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:03,239
not They hate the Slovakian government because it's not woke.

989
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,000
Putin is a bad man because he doesn't have homosexual

990
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,199
instruction in public schools, which I think is why they

991
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:13,360
hate him so much the left. I mean, it's it's

992
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,320
not for rational reasons. It's because he doesn't carry out

993
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,960
ideological imperatives. But the question is how do these nutcases

994
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,679
get so much power? And I don't know. I write

995
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:25,440
books on this, and yet it is still a mystery

996
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:25,639
to me.

997
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,639
Speaker 5: Well, based off of the genuinely this is one of

998
01:00:29,639 --> 01:00:32,360
the many things I've borrowed from your from your work.

999
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,880
I mean, my assumption is, effectively this is a developed

1000
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,880
version of the ideology of the American empire that conquered

1001
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,559
the world in World War two, and so sure FDR

1002
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:48,920
may not have had nice things to say about homosexuals,

1003
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:52,719
but ultimately it is the same regime sort of following

1004
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:57,000
that the natural conclusions of you know, the thought at

1005
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:00,920
which it was sort of crystallized and obviously there's a sorry.

1006
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:05,159
Speaker 7: Anti fascist exactly. Yes, it's a Second World War, it's

1007
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,440
a continuation of fighting Hitler, right, we never finished that war.

1008
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,239
It goes it's almost like the Catholic Mass that re

1009
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,840
enacts Christ's sacrificed. This reenacts the crusade of the Second

1010
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,480
World War, goes on and on, it gets you know,

1011
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,199
every minute, it gets re enacted every time we fight

1012
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,119
a homophobe or an anti Semite, whoever the bad person is. Right, well,

1013
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:34,119
we are, we're we're we are returning to the struggle

1014
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:36,320
against Hitler, which never.

1015
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,239
Speaker 5: And this is exactly why kan Inc Is not in

1016
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,960
any way a serious opposition, because ultimately they are members

1017
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,639
of the same church. You know, it's just Jesuits versus Franciscans.

1018
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 7: The uh.

1019
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 5: And to to that point, UH with regards to you know,

1020
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,280
the sort of anti fascism, I think there you have

1021
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,960
the same explanation for the GOP's obsession with courting minority voters,

1022
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,119
right that then we can be absolved for this great

1023
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:11,719
sin of being connected ultimately to the same line of

1024
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,519
thought you know that went through you know, Hitler and

1025
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,960
Robert E. Lee and all of these kind of boogeymen.

1026
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,159
Now really there's nothing in common between those two figures

1027
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,000
really at all, Like it's almost absurd to say, but

1028
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:28,239
much like MLK, they've become these sort of almost shibboleths

1029
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:34,079
of evil, right, just representative, almost cardboard cutouts. But Paul,

1030
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,599
we are fast approaching time. I'll give you a chance

1031
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:39,440
to conclude and then mention maybe where people can find you.

1032
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,599
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know to conclude in a hurry. I

1033
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,840
would urge everybody to subscribe to our magazine Chronicles, and

1034
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,599
you might want to read an a collection of my

1035
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:55,480
essays that just came out called The es Central Paul

1036
01:02:55,519 --> 01:03:01,840
Gottfried's published by Passage Press, a four or five hundred

1037
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,000
think it's almost five hundred page collection of essays, mostly

1038
01:03:05,159 --> 01:03:07,800
mostly polemics, that I wrote over a forty year period,

1039
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:13,719
which might be of interest to some of mister Burden's listeners.

1040
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,679
I'd also urge you to read my book on anti Fascism.

1041
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,480
And another book you might want to look at is

1042
01:03:20,519 --> 01:03:23,760
the one on the post Marxist Left that I wrote,

1043
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:27,519
or the the European Left and the New Millennium, which

1044
01:03:27,519 --> 01:03:30,639
is which is was written around the beginning of the

1045
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:33,840
of the New Millennium, but you'd find it interesting because

1046
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,880
it's in that book. I predict the rise of wokery

1047
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,079
as a as a left that is different from Marxism

1048
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:46,039
but is in some ways influenced by it. But I

1049
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,679
mostly emphasize the differences and explain why woke wokeness is

1050
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,480
a more historically appropriate form of the left than the

1051
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:59,199
Marxism that it was replacing. So those are my remarks.

1052
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:03,039
Speaker 5: Well, Paul, I will say, as someone who is, according

1053
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:06,719
to my family, infamously hard to find Christmas gifts for,

1054
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,559
I have been purchased for Christmas a copy of your

1055
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:13,119
new book at Passage Press. I may have tipped them off,

1056
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,039
so I will be going through it and probably pestering

1057
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,440
you with more emails about things you said thirty years ago.

1058
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,880
But so highly recommend that the other two books will

1059
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,119
be linked as well. As far as my stuff Jay

1060
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:27,800
Burdens show, Apple, Spotify, YouTube or on substack, I've been

1061
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:33,119
writing much more, actually, a recent piece on this concept

1062
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,920
of the woke right and the claim that the woke

1063
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,400
right is inherently maliced, which it may surprise you, there

1064
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,119
is little to no evidence to support that assertion anyway, Paul,

1065
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:45,360
it was a pleasure speaking to you and everyone at home.

1066
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:46,199
Keep your head up.

1067
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,599
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