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welcome everyone back to the peaking Yona show, Filos is back.

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Speaker 2: How you don't fil us?

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Speaker 3: I am doing well. The world is on fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh trying times, trying times, but please let

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us not talk about that, because I do I do

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enough of that privately. I don't, you know, talking more

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about it publicly, especially when you know you have retards

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out there who everything from the you know, this is

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World War three down to the United States has never

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lost a The United States hasn't lost any equipment, you know,

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or a THAD system in this whole thing where you're.

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Speaker 2: Just like, all right, you're all retards.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to I don't need to talk to you. Yeah,

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I'll just keep talking to people on the ground that

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that are feeding me information and I'll trust them over

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your Fox News watching ASS or MSNBC watching ASS or

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whoever you're watching.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, all.

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Speaker 1: Right now they got that off my chest.

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Speaker 2: Schwengler and Man in Technics. This is a book.

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Speaker 1: I've read god at least three times, and I know

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they said Francis Parker Yaki always carried a copy of

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it with him everywhere he went. And something I wanted

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to talk about for a long time, and you just

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mentioned it out of the blue one. I was like, Bilos, Yeah,

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let's do this. So, oh what gave you this idea?

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and technics, it's in a lot of ways. It's a

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book kind of out of time, and the book is

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almost one hundred years old at this point, and Spengler

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is obviously better known at this point in time for

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Decline and Fall the West, But when understanding Spengler, there's

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really far more of a historical anger just beyond the

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grand meta narrative and theories about different aspects of high culture.

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kind of like him and he got me down in

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an interesting path. Is that we live in an extremely rationalist, materialist,

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very atomized individual age where you never think of yourself

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the right or you're in our side of things, you

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kind of tell yourself, well, high culture, our culture is dead, extinct,

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and what everything we do revolving culture nowadays has to

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two thousands. And so there's this mentalit that culture as

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other it alienates us from what it means to be human.

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development of humanity as a force, rather than is some

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edition for about eighty dollars looking up the Man in

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Technics by Spangler title, you can find first editions out there. Pete,

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question real quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you sent me notes that you took on this

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and at the beginning you said no AI was used

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in this document. That's an inside joke, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, on the one hand, it would

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have been tremendously dispectful to the author and it's work

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to do that. But you know, on the other hand,

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you know, I don't see much merit in just hallucinated

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results and garbage or the incorporation secondary sources. You know,

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if you're gonna have me on as a guest, it's

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just worth the time and energy to do a good

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Speaker 2: And you did. All right, man, go ahead, get this off.

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from Decline of the West. He states this explicitly, And

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the way to summarize this book in a sentence would

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be the destiny of man can only be understood by

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dealing with all the provinces of his activity simultaneously and comparatively.

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it is what the hell is technics? Well, what technics

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a strange, vague statement, So I'll just start with the

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first chapter. Spangler starts off the book by talking about

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how Pandora's Box was opened in the eighteenth century with

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a fundamental skepticism about the meaning and value of culture,

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and this eventually over time led to the twentieth century

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view that the entirety of viewing culture as world history

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was a problem. So we sort of discarded it, and

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and the Romanticist movement and the book Robinson Crusoe by

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Daniel Dafoe. The original man, So the individual man alone

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in nature is a peaceful and virtuous creature until the

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culture of civilization comes along to ruin him, to corrupt him,

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to make him ambitious about money. And Spendler argues that

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these moralizing tendencies, they don't actually consider the technical side

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of early man's achieve achievements in existence. So in the

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long nineteenth century where Spengler is born into, we have

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a tripling of the global population and incredible technical logical advancement,

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and there's also very little warfare. These people that are

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complaining and writing about culture are very steeped in it.

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these idealists and ideologues who were anti realist and concerned

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with high culture. But on the other side is English

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materialism and that prioritizes utility as the only legitimate element

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of culture. This is the basis of utilitarianism, the factory worker,

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the material good, the creation of machinery. Materialism and viewing

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reality is absent of any real metaphysics. It's distinguished, according

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to Spengler, by its lack of any imaginative power. The

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picture of the future that they generate by the end

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of the nineteenth century, especially in the eighteen eighties with

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a lot of Protestant movements popping up, is a the

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imminent earthly paradise that excludes states, wars, laws, religion, hate,

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or any kind of superiority between mankind. But as Spengler asserts,

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the only constant that would be produced from such a

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hypothetical world would be unending comfort and boredom, appalling boredom,

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he says, throughout all of time. And if this occurs

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in real life, only murder and suicide will result. And

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to rise in the culture is a skeptis rather than

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of culture, a certain irony. If you look at the

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ideology such as communism. This is a perfect exult. And

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and this is not to be understood in terms of

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of actions. It's just kind of how you do something

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every time that someone struggles with a problem, this is

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study of prehistory. So man's early development. An animal, Spengler argues,

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for reproduction, and they really only fear death in the

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that we go through life. It dooms us to certain

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dare I say, libertarian moment, there are only men of

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a time, place, or race. The battle is life in

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the Nichean sense, a grim, pitiless, no quarter battle of

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the will to power. So what is an animal then,

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to power? And how does that then relate to culture well,

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in fairy tales and proverbs, you can see the fact

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that for mankind ideals are howard is. In the nineteen thirties,

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the animal world was viewed with an anatomical treatment and

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a classification system that was dominated entirely by the materialist

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outbook Outlook. If you look at an old encyclopedia or

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with categorizing things, sterilizing things. And in the world of

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medicine and natural history, a system of static and optically

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appreciable details is present and wholly constructive of that world,

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with no room for any kind of agency. The alternative

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to this system is unsystematic. It's an unsophisticated way of

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living and coexisting with natural life. And as a side note,

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beasts of prey instead of predator. So I'm just going

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of freedom for self against others. It seeks to maximize

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and predators go towards something. They seek a target visually,

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and for a predator this creates a world picture. Because

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the predator uses its vision, the world is its prey.

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predator that culture has come into existence. Now that sounds

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a little esoteric, and it is so to reinforce that

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idea for the strength of an individual soul, A herbivore,

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a prey animal will gather together in large numbers as

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a herd. The less one needs others as a predator,

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the more powerful one is. A predator is everybody's foe,

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and they don't tolerate an equal in their territory. This

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is the root, according to Spangler, of the royal idea

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of property. Property does not mean owning or having something,

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or even purchasing land. What property is fundamentally is the

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sovereign right to do as one wills with one's own

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and this distinguishes between what is ethical behavior and the

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carnivore and the herbivore world. The herbivores, when they are domesticated,

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they give up nothing. Herbifore destiny means that one is

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base and cowardly, intrinsically a positive quality of their being.

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But mankind demands and belongs to the carnivore class that

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strives through power, victory, and sovereignty. So, of course, what

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is man? What is the earliest man? Well, Man is

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not a simpleton. They're not inclined for natural goodness, they're

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not plebeian, and they're not stupid. Man has always wanted,

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all throughout its existence to be master. The unique fact

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about human technics is that technics is largely independent of

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the life of the species of humanity as a whole.

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life where an individual has freed himself alone from the

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compulsion of the herd of humanity. And according to Spangler,

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one has to meditate long upon this thought if one

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is to grasp its immense implications. Man has become the

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creator of his tactics of living. This is as grand

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in his doom. This inner form of his creativeness is

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what we call culture. To be cultured, to cultivate something,

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to suffer from culture. Mankind's creations are the expression of

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this being in personal form.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things another great essay of his

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that people should read is Prussianism and Socialism, and he

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talks about the different how different the Prussian is, the

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Prussian spirit, And one of the ways he talks about

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the Prussian spirit is that the Prussian spirit has a

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sense of belonging to something large. Man belongs to something

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larger than himself, and that's what he works towards. And

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he contrasts it between the English and he says, at

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this point the English have just become financialized. Everything is

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about finance, Everything is about the individual. Everything is about

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how I'm going to do for myself to escape my Englishness. Basically,

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So that's a little simple. I know that we're talking

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about some you know, advanced concepts here. But one of

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the ways that you can think about what he's saying

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is is that he's talking about belonging, but not not

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giving up your individualism and becoming a deracinated unit.

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Speaker 3: Right and later in the book he touches upon the Germans,

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and I was reminded when I was reading it of

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the Krupp Steel Company in Germany, the one that was

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founded in the late eighteenth very early nineteenth century and

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then basically provided steel from the Ruher area of Germany

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for like two centuries, and it only formally went out

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of business I think in the the book on it

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was published in the late nineteen sixties. But the way

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that the inventor struggles in Germany is very different than

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an English inventor in England, which was you know, in

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the seventeen hundreds, the world of the bridge builder, of

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the steam engine, of the earliest trains. This is a

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savant who through sheer force of will, invents and creates

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something brilliantly outside of any constraints from anything. He's allowed

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to run wild with this idea. But in the Kryp

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Steel Company, every single brilliant inventor who is going through

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the process over time of refining and improving the steel product. Basically,

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the Prussian state the entire time is trying to suffocate

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the industry. It's this bizarre angle where and Spengel even

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backs this up later on in this book where he

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says the Germans hate their inventors, which I never would

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have thought of ahead of time. But the more that

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I think about that instance, I'm certain that Spengler would

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have been aware of the Krupt company and also how

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scientific geniuses are treated within Germany. To return, I found, Yeah,

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go ahead, I found.

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Speaker 1: I found the spot where he talks about Impressionism and socialism.

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Speaker 2: He says.

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Speaker 1: It was we ourselves who brought about the calamity, calamity

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upon ourselves, with the preachers of cosmopolitanism and other treacher

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treacherous elements allowing them into the culture. And he says,

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we Germans, with our almost metaphysical will, are stubborn and

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selfless determination, our honest and enthusiastic patriotism. This will of

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ours is by its very nature a handy weapon for

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any external enemy. With the practical sense of the English

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is precarious compound of political ideas and aspiration, one which

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only the English are really capable of mastering and implementing.

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For us, despite all our passion and self sacrificing zeal,

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it has led to political diletancism. Its effect on our

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political existence has been disastrous, poisonous, suicidal. It is our

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invisible It is our invisible English army left by Napoleon

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on German soil after the Battle of Jena. He's just

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talking about their deficiencies in sensing reality at this point,

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and what the reality he's talking about. He's talking about

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the reality of the attack of what's coming to destroy Prussianism.

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Speaker 3: Right, so, so to understand more of the genesis of culture,

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we know that man is an inventive carnivore. There is

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nothing else in this world that is equally capable of

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both touch and action as the human hand. And while

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the prey animal regards the world theoretically of what might happen,

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the hand of man commands it practically. Spengler argues that

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this must have happened in a single moment, like a

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flash of lightning, and he aims to disprove the evolutionary process. Evolution,

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as Spengler writes, as slow and phlegmatic. It's a series

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of alterations and it appropriately suits the English nature of

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how reality should be slow plotting exhaustive. The timeframe is

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millions of years, separated by arbitrary catastrophes. To Spengler, the

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human skeleton as we know it, with the skull shape,

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with the nature of the opposable hands. This simply appears

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in the past, and the archaeological record is exactly how

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it is now, and therefore man must have been exactly

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as we are in the past. Spengler says that what

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makes us human our opposable thumbs, hand, our upright gate,

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our head, position on our neck. This is not something

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that could have developed piecemeal like a jigsaw puzzle. The

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whole thing just suddenly is a cohesive unit. It is

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not humanity that undergoes catastrophes and mutates. It is world

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history itself, external to the existence of man, that mutates

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over time. And this hand really is critical for Spangler.

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The unarmed and unapplied hand is useless. It requires a

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weapon for it to become practical useful. So when mankind

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develops and picks up a tool, the tool takes the

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shape of the hand, and the hand takes the shape

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of the tool. This is why in the archaeological record,

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you always find tools of some sort, even if there's

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stone tools with the human hand. Man is also the

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only animal that selects and crafts the weapon, and so

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with this you have the liberation from the compulsion of

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its animal nature. Man comes into being. So this is

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different than just a chimp picking up a rock and

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using it. An animal has to I mean, a man

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has to think ahead of what they're going to do,

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and so when they craft a tool, they're doing a deed. Well,

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animals have like baseline activity. What mankind is doing is

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a deed. Man is watching cause and effect of how

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a fire starts. But unlike an animal, only man can

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plan out a process of starting a fire. And so

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every work of primitive man in this mold, by being

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planned out and executed, is artificial and unnatural. It is

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estranged from nature. And so because that's the baseline and

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the genesis of man's soul, creating culture, it continues to

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strive forward and its alienation from all types of nature.

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So every technical process that man undergoes is an art.

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There's archery, construction, war, being a priest, and prophesizing governing mankind.

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These are all arts, and this in pre pre historic

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man is the beginning of our tragedy. Because nature, death, calamity, starvation, disease,

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it is always stronger than man's creations. Therefore, all great

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cultures that develop are eventually defeats. The fight against nature

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is ultimately hopeless, but it has to be fought to

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the bitter end. And so now that man has an

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armed hand and man can plan, man then begins to

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do something new in culture, and that is speech and enterprise.

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So for considerable number of millennia mankind is running around

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doing the absolute basics chimps with sticks. But at some point,

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which Spangler dates to the fifth millennium BC, we get graves,

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we get clay vessels, agriculture, indications of travel. And Spangler

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disagrees with classifications of objects such as Mesolithic, Paleolithic, Neolithic

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of incremental development over time, because what's not changing here

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is necessarily the equipment just to some kind of utative

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Darwinian adaption. Man himself is changing as the tools develop,

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and these new techniques they also in a critical way,

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they presuppose each other's existence. When you tame an animal,

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you now have to have cultivated food for it, and

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you also have to require constructing pens, and so every

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sort of building, every sort of enterprise or endeavor, this

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requires the preparation and transportation of material over distances. To Spangler,

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this is a spiritual transformation called collective doing by plan

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or man had lived his own life, but now we

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require something for communication. How do you communicate your plan

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to other people? Similarly to the flash of lightning discovery,

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speaking in sentences must have also come very suddenly and decisively.

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Sentences were prefigured by eye movements, voice and hand gestures.

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The fundamental error of Romanticism and the rationalists when they

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think about what a sentence is, is that a sentence

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expresses a judgment or a thought. In isolation, scholars are

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surrounded by books, and they're constantly reading and researching into

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their own thoughts and writings, and the thought itself becomes

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an object of speaking. Yet beyond speaking, there is a hearing,

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beyond a question, there is an answer. And so what

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a scholar or a very rationalist person would view is

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that the origin of speech is a monologue. But speaking

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itself isn't a monologue. It's a reciprocal way of understanding

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conversation between several persons monologue only has the properties of

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judgment and declaration, but mutual conversation between men has the command,

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the expression of obedience, the question, and the information or

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negation to that question. These are very brief sentences. Do

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this are you ready? Go ahead? Words, as designations of notions,

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are only products of the object of the sentence. So

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a seafaring coastal tribe that has to fish all day

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is going to communicate differently than the village of sheepherders.

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The object of speech, the original object, therefore, is the

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carrying out of an act in accordance with intention. Time

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means in place all speech. Initially, all human communication proceeded

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from the thought of the hand. I want to do

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this with my agency and my physical prowess. Therefore I

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have to communicate it. So this connective doing by plan

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is called an enterprise. This speech and enterprise have the

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same relation as hands and implement So man the predator

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insistently consciously aims to increase his superiority far beyond the

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limits of his bodily powers. So if you notice the

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first thing that happens in early Neolithic society is they

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build these megaliths like Stonehenge and these sites that are

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scattered all across the world. They have capstones that are

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weighing more than one hundred tons, and there's this kind

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of ridiculous question of why did they do this? Well,

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I think, and according to Spengler, I would argue he

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asserts the same thing. The reason that these structures exist,

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in their form and their variety and the prolificness of them,

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is that it's a representation of how much fourth thought,

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an enterprise that society had present at its capacity, and

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therefore it was the highest form of culture. So planning

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out and carrying out a task like let's say, building Stonehenge,

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this is two different things. There are two different kinds

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of men. There are those who command and those who obey.

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The existence. To Spangler of this is a plain fact

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and admitted by everyone, even though some people will just

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bullshit you and tell you that this is not the case.

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But genius in this sense, planning something like Stonehenge is

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literal raw creative power. The talent of building it in

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its exercise in a different way presupposes genius, but not

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necessarily vice versa. So this enterprise that now exists once

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man builds these early structures, well, for both the leader

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and the lead. It's an immense loss of freedom. They

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could become spiritual or intellectual members of a higher unit,

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bigger than themselves. So eventually this forms the state. The state,

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this relationship between the leader and the lad It is

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the internal order of a people. For its external purpose.

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Politics is a temporary substance for war, and the state

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has to exist because piracy is as old as nomadism.

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peasantry to a warlike nobility. In the early tribes, the

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00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,279
individual mattered little or nothing. When trouble came to a society,

472
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,400
the entire group would die. This is the extinction of

473
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,240
the we. The frontier, even the intellectual frontier of this

474
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,079
unknown is the mortal foe of the will to power.

475
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,680
And in setting up these societal endeavors, the more powerful,

476
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,519
the more competent a leader of a society gets, the

477
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,000
greater the need of executive hands. So instead of killing

478
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,799
all of your hostile tribes, you begin to enslave them.

479
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,280
This is the origin of human slavery, which, to Spengler

480
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,199
must be precisely as old as the enslavement of animals.

481
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,679
In general, these tribes will multiply downwards over time. There

482
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,760
are fewer and fewer leaders, but more hands, more laborers.

483
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,280
The exceptional man, the righteous lord over this tribe, is

484
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:32,440
far removed from any concept of ancient individual freedom. Only

485
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:36,880
here is the righteous lord the individual that individualism, that

486
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,280
is a reaction against the psychology of the masses will exist,

487
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,440
and so there begins to be this relationship between the

488
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,320
leader and the lad hate. Hate is the most genuine

489
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,039
of all race feelings for the prey animal, but it

490
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:56,719
also presupposes respect for the adversary. They are envious of

491
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,320
the leader, and to alter this fact, where similarly the

492
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,159
leader has contempt for the lead, to alter this fact

493
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:08,719
of human relations is simply impossible. So believe it or not,

494
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,480
we are now four fifths of the way through this book.

495
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,199
So if the points leading up to this have seemed

496
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,280
rather simple and obvious, it's because Spangler is building to

497
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,119
this final thesis, and the final thesis is culture, the

498
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,719
last act, the rise and the end of machine culture.

499
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840
We're now seventy five pages into this book, three quarters

500
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,000
of the way through. So to Spangler, occasionally, since three

501
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,960
thousand BC, there have been high cultures, the tempo of

502
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,199
the rise and the fall of cultures has been that

503
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,199
of the final catastrophe. In the way that we view

504
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,719
and understand time, every decade has its significance, every year

505
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,639
has a special look to it. We have come since

506
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,199
three thousand BC to stone cities, to housing entirely artificial

507
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,159
living in it. There is society free from nature. The

508
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,559
hierarchy of classes nobles, priests and burger are an artificial

509
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:11,159
gradation of life against the background of mere peasantry. And

510
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,079
what do they do? What distinguishes these classes well, luxury wealth.

511
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,280
And this is something that I found very thought provoking

512
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480
from him. What is luxury but culture in its most

513
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:26,159
exacting form. What are the cultural artifacts that we have

514
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:30,559
from ancient society? We have the Suton who helmet, we

515
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,159
have highly refined textiles, we have beautiful MASONRK. This is

516
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,480
not a mass instinctive prey culture. This is wealth, ostentatious,

517
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:46,639
loud and boisterous, and that is generating culture. It's not

518
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,119
thinkers in ivory towers. It is the doer, the generator,

519
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,239
the artists, and the craft or the inventor of wealth.

520
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,119
And without an economic wealth, it is concentrated in a

521
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,840
few hands. There can be no wealth of art, thought, elegance,

522
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,559
or the luxury of the world outlook. Look at the Resornamento,

523
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,840
the leading up to the Renaissance in Italy and these

524
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,239
city states. Look at the previous thirteenth, twelfth, and thirteenth

525
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,840
centuries of the way that wealth is getting concentrated before

526
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,280
the artistic generation of these beautiful master works has to exist,

527
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:33,440
that is the development of culture. And conversely, economic impoverishment

528
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:39,719
also brings spiritual and artistic impoverishment. And so this Faustian culture,

529
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,920
as we understand it, it presents the victory of pure

530
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,400
technical thought over these massive problems. Our Faustian culture is

531
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,000
not necessarily the last culture, but it's certainly the most powerful, passionate,

532
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,480
and tragic due to the inward conflict between its comprehensive

533
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:04,199
intellectuality and the profound spiritual disharmony that it's experiencing in

534
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,320
any given time. So to Spengler, nobles, warriors, adventurers, they

535
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,159
live in the world of actual fact, they suffer destiny.

536
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,679
But alternatively, the priest, the scholar, and the philosopher live

537
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,440
in the world of truths, so they think and causality.

538
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Faustian culture, between these two polls experienced every conflict of

539
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,360
these two between the twelfth century through the nineteen thirties

540
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,280
when he published this history. According to Spengler, the way

541
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,559
that it plays out in the Faustian world is one

542
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:45,119
sequence of efforts to get resolution between these two primary orders. So,

543
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,440
of course, well, how does this actually manifest? What's something

544
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,719
more specific about it? Rather than just this big meme

545
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,760
where Spengler and Faustian culture just kind of floating ethereally. Well,

546
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,199
Spengler named some dates here between the rights of Faustian culture,

547
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
as well as the Vikings and their arrival in different lands. Now,

548
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:11,920
Spengler distinguishes between the the warrior Viking. I think it's

549
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,280
the Drenger of the blood and the Vikings of the mind.

550
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,599
With boldness and hunger. There are no idle and unpure

551
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,840
like unpractical curiosity. It's present in these other civilizations like

552
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,480
the Chinese, the Indian civilization, the classical Greek civilization, and

553
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:35,679
the Arab civilizations, even among their savant class. Uniquely, in

554
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,519
the Faustian every theory that's thought up by a Faustian

555
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:44,599
savant is from the outset a working hypothesis which needs

556
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,320
not be necessarily correct, but only practical, and it aims

557
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,039
to make the secrets of the world serviceable to definite ends.

558
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,920
So in the Middle Ages there's an advancement in the

559
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,559
mathematical methods with Roger Bacon, Albertus Magnus, and Matello in

560
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:10,000
the thirteenth century. The experimentum inim solemn certificate is the

561
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:17,239
stratagem of intellectual prey animals. They claim in their discoveries

562
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,760
that their desire is to know God, but they actually

563
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,440
strove to master the forces of inorganic nature, which is

564
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,599
the invisible energy that's manifested in all that happens. So

565
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,840
this is where you get a huge amount of religion

566
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,679
mixed with all sorts of different metaphysical concepts that are

567
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:43,159
not Christian. This is where you get like everyone being

568
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,159
some sort of how do I put this, I don't

569
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,480
want to say like a gnostic because it's not necessarily

570
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,199
what they believe, but they're basically just doing all sorts

571
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:02,400
of heretical practices, black magic stuff like this. In Faustian

572
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,320
science alone, there is dynamics physics appearing. The Greek science

573
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,480
is static with algebra and geometry, and the Arabic science

574
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:17,599
is alchemy or the magical combination of ingredients, a gross

575
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,360
test a Western f law. A Western inventor developed a

576
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,679
theory of space as a function of light Petris peregrinus,

577
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:30,920
a theory of magnetism, and the Copernican theory of the

578
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,039
solar system was foreshadowed by a resume. So what is man,

579
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,800
Faustian man doing, Well, they're kind of tired of enslaving plants,

580
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,199
animals and slaves to serve him. That's just too easy,

581
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,880
and Faustian man is too good at it. Man wished

582
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,639
now to enslave and harness the very forces of nature

583
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,920
to multiply his own strength, and so the highest aspiration

584
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,320
even to this day. And you see this with stuff

585
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,559
like nuclear fusion and the way that Faustian man has

586
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,880
a utopian idea. We never forgot the idea of perpetual motion.

587
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,480
And the success of perpetual motion is the final victory

588
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:15,960
of God or nature Deus sive natura. By fifteen hundred,

589
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,800
a new Vikingism, which is started by Vasco da Gamma

590
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,039
and Columbus, is underway. A new man arrives in the

591
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:29,239
Faustian West to replace this monastic mind. This new man

592
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,639
is the priest of the machine. With the coming of rationalism,

593
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:38,000
the belief in technics almost becomes a materialistic religion that

594
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,079
supplants in the rationalist mind the trinity. In reality, the

595
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:49,199
inventor's passion really has nothing to do whatsoever with its consequences.

596
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:53,039
Same with the explorer. It is his personal life motive,

597
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,800
joy and sorrow. The effect of what they're doing, the

598
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,280
effect of this technological advancement, it's never seen. And so

599
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,800
all great discoveries and inventions they are springing from the

600
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,960
delight of strong men in victory. They are expressions of

601
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,519
the man's personality, and not of the utilitarian thinking of

602
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:18,639
the mass, who are merely spectators. The number of hands

603
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:23,679
that are involved in these endeavors, as society and Faustian

604
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,840
society grows, expands and becomes more complex, must always increase

605
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,599
over time. The leaders and they're led no longer understand

606
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,800
each other. The enterprise in pre Christian millennia, so prior

607
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,000
to the life of Christ, require the intelligent cooperation of

608
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:45,360
all concerned. Yet now the hands work at things which

609
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,199
the real role in life, even affecting themselves, is now

610
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,960
entirely unknown to them, and in which they have no share.

611
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,199
Due to this, the spiritual barrenness causes bitterness to the

612
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,639
gifted and born creators. And this is the spiritual impoverishment

613
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,440
of Faustian man. That not every man will be the leader,

614
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,039
will be the head of the organization, will be the inventor,

615
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,400
the trailblazer. Lesser men, according to Spengler, will no longer

616
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,159
see nor understand that the leader's work is the harder work,

617
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,320
and that their own life depends on its success. They

618
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,719
merely sense that this work makes them happy, and this

619
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,079
is why they hate them. So we are now at

620
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,920
the close of the book. Here in reality, fast forwarding

621
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,039
to the world in which we live. The machine technics

622
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:44,119
that we have created is this Faustian system they've developed

623
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,280
out of the power of the heads or the hands.

624
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,320
We are at the summit. The last decisions are taking place.

625
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,760
The tragedy of Faustian man is closing. Every high culture

626
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,320
is a tragedy. The history of mankind as a whole

627
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:06,199
play out this way. As the macrocosm of man against

628
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,119
nature rose up, so now too does the microcosm of

629
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,960
machine revolting against Nordic man. The lord of the world

630
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,480
is becoming the slave of the machine forced to follow

631
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,159
its course with minimal agency. At the start of the

632
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:30,679
twentieth century, a small group of Nordic blood nations Britain, Germany, France,

633
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:35,519
and the United States. They commanded this leader situation. They

634
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:39,639
commanded the machine technics. The degree of military power that

635
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:44,039
they generated was dependent upon the intensity of industry, and

636
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:49,760
countries that are industrially poor are poor all around. America,

637
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,440
as a successor to the English, rates its inventors the

638
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:58,400
highest in status, but Germany paradoxically rates them the lowest.

639
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,440
Despite the intense competence of the German inventor. It is

640
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880
the tragedy of the time that this unfettered human thought

641
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,800
can no longer grasp its own consequences with these technics.

642
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,280
Technics has become as esoteric as the higher mathematics, which

643
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:21,599
has its uses, but the physical theory has itself refined

644
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:28,719
its intellectual abstractions from phenomena to reach the foundation purely

645
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,519
of human knowing. So to summarize that kind of crazy sence. Basically,

646
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,360
our religion has become as unbounded with the machine technics

647
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,119
as these early scholars understanding higher mathematics, and intellectually our

648
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:51,440
intellectual thinkers of this age have become so close to

649
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:55,760
the pure foundations of human knowing with the brute reality

650
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,519
of ontology and getting just autistic about the structure of

651
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:06,119
logic itself, that we've defeated everything within this. We don't

652
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,079
even really know why we're doing it anymore. And that

653
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:13,199
is why the machine is taking over the machine that

654
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,840
we invent. They are beginning to defeat their own purposes.

655
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,039
So in Spengler's time, he talks about the invention of

656
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:24,360
the motor car, which by the nineteen thirties. You know,

657
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,800
initially it was an improvement to the carriage, you know,

658
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,840
to give freedom to people to go and to rapidly

659
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,320
cross quick distances, and it aimed to expedite but also

660
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,360
to refine our travel. Same thing with aviation. But eventually

661
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,639
it just becomes stifled. We're stuck in traffic, we're delayed,

662
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:47,199
our existence is ruled by this machine. Same thing, I

663
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:49,400
would argue, he doesn't mention this, but I would make

664
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,079
an exact parallel to the airport. Flying used to be

665
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:57,800
this romantic and enlightening experience, which was very comfortable, but

666
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,239
now it's this just utter, miserable factory machine terror.

667
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me I'm going tomorrow my condolences.

668
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: By the time that our technics, but these machines exhaust themselves,

669
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,039
we're also not going to be free of it, because

670
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,000
there's going to be some other improved way to continue

671
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:24,559
the machine. So the Faustian thought today and Spengler, you

672
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,639
have to understand, he's writing this almost one hundred years ago.

673
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,199
It's very efficient. The Faustian thought begins to become sick

674
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,559
of machines. A weariness is spreading, a pacifism of the

675
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:39,519
need to do battle with nature. Men are returning to

676
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,960
forms of life simpler and nearer to nature. Men are

677
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,000
fleeing the great cities. They are becoming hateful to them. Boy,

678
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:52,239
are they becoming hateful to cities nowadays? Strong in creative talents.

679
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,760
This is like the Chud book. We're in, like the

680
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,880
Chud section. Just so everyone everyone understands that this is

681
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,320
like the based core of the Apple. Here, strong and

682
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,079
creative talents are turning away from practical problems and the

683
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:12,280
sciences towards pure speculation. Occultism, spiritualism, Hindu philosophies, and gnosticism

684
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:16,239
are on the rise. Casually in our mass society. The

685
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,719
flight of the born leader away from the machine is beginning.

686
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,960
The tension between work of leadership and work of execution

687
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,199
has reached the level of catastrophe. The work of the

688
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,519
hands in society is entirely without significance. The mutiny of

689
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:38,639
the hands against their destiny against organized life itself is beginning.

690
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:43,639
The most serious symptom of the collapse is treason to technics.

691
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,360
The immense superiority of Faustian civilization was based on an

692
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,239
uncondested monopoly of industry. The role of every other people

693
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,719
group in the world, so all the third worldists, according

694
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,800
to S. Bengler, was to provide material for it. But

695
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,920
only the white engineers knew how to facilitate this process.

696
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,519
But here we're at the fatal mistake. Instead of I'm

697
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,400
glad you got banned off YouTube for this one, instead

698
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,920
of keeping this knowledge to themselves, the white peoples complacently

699
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,480
offered it to all the people of the world, to

700
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:21,840
the astonished homage of Indians and Japanese, who were delighting

701
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,360
in the pleasure of the white man and their ignorance

702
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:31,239
and throwing away their Faustian core. The unassailable privileges.

703
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: That is that right there. So ugh, yep, all right,

704
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:37,960
go on.

705
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: The unassailable privileges of the white races have been thrown away, squandered, betrayed.

706
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:49,639
Where there are resources, According to these non Faustian races,

707
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,440
there is hopefully optimistically, a new weapon that can be

708
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:57,719
forged against the heart of Faustian civilization itself. The exploited

709
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,880
world is beginning to take its revenge on the lords.

710
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,679
This is the real and final basis of the unemployment

711
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,039
that prevails in the white countries. It is no mere crisis,

712
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,159
but the beginning of a catastrophe. Faustian technics, to a

713
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,800
Faustian man, are not just an activity to be engaged in,

714
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,840
or even the culture itself. It is a spiritual need.

715
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,480
It is an account of its victories. But technics for

716
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,639
the colored races is but a weapon in their fight

717
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,639
against the Faustian civilization. So what do we do about this?

718
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,320
This is the famous line from Spengler. I'm just going

719
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,400
to read this in its entirety because there's no way

720
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,599
to get around it. This is what Spengler says we

721
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,360
must do in this time. Faced as we are with

722
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,119
this destiny, there is only one world's outlook. That is

723
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:55,760
worthy of us that which has already been mentioned as

724
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,400
the choice of Achilles. Better a short life full of

725
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,440
deeds and glory than a long life without content. Content,

726
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,159
I mean not content ridiculous. Already, the danger is so

727
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,039
great for every individual, every class, every people, that to

728
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:17,840
cherish any illusion whatsoever is deplorable. Time does not suffer

729
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,400
itself to be halted. There is no question of prudent

730
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,599
retreat or wise renunciation. Only dreamers believe that there is

731
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:33,480
a way out. Optimism is cowardice. We are born into

732
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,519
this time and must bravely follow the path to the

733
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:40,360
destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is

734
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,880
to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue,

735
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,679
like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front

736
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,440
of a door in Pompeii, who during the eruption of Vesuvius,

737
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,440
died at his post because they forgot to relieve him.

738
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,920
That is greatness. That is what it means to be

739
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:04,159
a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that

740
00:53:04,199 --> 00:53:08,639
cannot be taken from a man, and that is man.

741
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:10,960
In Technics by Oswald Spengler.

742
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: It's you know, you mentioned a couple of times that

743
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,679
this was written one hundred years ago, and especially in

744
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:28,719
this last section, it's so applicable to today. You know,

745
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,679
this is why, this is why Yaqui was so you

746
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,440
know why when you read Imperium, you're basically reading a

747
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:46,320
somebody who has absorbed Spangler and is looking forward. And

748
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,039
I guess it's why sometimes when you're reading Imperium it

749
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,239
feels like he's basically talking to you at this moment

750
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,320
in time and predicting things that are going to happen.

751
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:08,239
And yeah, yeah, the the optimism is cowardice line is

752
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,920
always it doesn't make any sense when you take it

753
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,840
when you take it out of the context of the

754
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,480
full quote.

755
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: Here one thing I found really interesting in this paragraph

756
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,760
because even though it totally advises against optimism, it never

757
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,559
advocates pessimism.

758
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: It never it advocates work. Yeah, it advocates doing something.

759
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: And so and it makes very clear what you're supposed

760
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:48,039
to work against. And I think, I mean, you would

761
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,159
have to be kind of blind to be listening this

762
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,639
and not be aware who the enemy is. But also

763
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,199
why it's a problem to just hope for the best,

764
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:06,480
because the enemy of Faustian civilization is not as passive

765
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:10,760
as this. They are more than happy to use our

766
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,880
own tools against us, and that it's a big picture thing.

767
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,800
It applies not just to Indian bots on Twitter or

768
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:24,360
Visa scams, or to a series of just endless cultural

769
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,800
or political betrayals, although that's definitely the most visible form.

770
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:40,159
But it explains a sort of uniqueness to Faustian man's life,

771
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:43,840
that it's not just the goal of the Faustian man's

772
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,360
life is not to just accumulate resources. I think it

773
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:54,159
is rather to just spend the resources, to exhaust the bank,

774
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,880
to put all effort out there, and to leave it

775
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,559
all on the table. I mean, there's just spend so

776
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:07,239
many times. I mean I think of everyone from that,

777
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:10,280
you know, the guy in Brazil who just lives in

778
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Florida now, and uh Bolsonarow and a lot of these

779
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,840
other you know, you see this repeating pattern. Nigel Farage

780
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,760
is a similar one. You see this thing where they

781
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,360
you know, they claim to represent this spirit in this

782
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:28,800
force until they just quit or until they chicken out.

783
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:35,079
And I think those individuals and that way of thinking

784
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,280
of all just be on side with this movement until

785
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,440
it's no longer convenient for me, or until I head

786
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:46,800
enough challenges to delay me. Ah, that is the sort

787
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:53,599
of optimism as cowardice that he's referring to in this passage.

788
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:59,360
And I think that the way that he also frames

789
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,639
things as in allusion, I mean, the allusion to Spangler

790
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,760
is very obvious. This uh, just purely being intellectual, you know,

791
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,519
I suffer from this as well, just being an avid

792
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,079
reader and a collector of books. I get very caught

793
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:17,719
up in how great it is to incorporate and understand

794
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,719
and read all these right wing ideas, or to consume

795
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:27,079
a great podcast. But it's not it's not for a purpose.

796
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,599
There's no deed that's generated. You're not this brain in

797
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,920
a vat. You know, you are a man with an

798
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,159
implement against the world and that ability to have enterprise.

799
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,480
And when I think of especially shout out to the

800
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:45,079
OGC for what they do, the way that the OGC

801
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:51,519
is organizing itself is exactly what must be done to

802
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:57,000
fight this. Because similarly, Spengler is not advocating. Yes, he

803
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,559
brings an example of a Roman soldier, but if you

804
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:04,880
notice that Roman soldier doesn't die in isolation, he's waiting

805
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,440
to be relieved by his unit. So the honor there

806
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:14,440
is actually a group honor, that soldier does credit to

807
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:19,559
his unit. So there is a lot of notions I

808
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:24,599
think with honor that tie into the speech, the communication,

809
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,840
the enterprise. I mean, setting aside the fact. I mean,

810
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,719
I'm a Christian, So to be Christian means to have

811
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,760
honor and to have honesty, and to represent yourself plainly

812
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,679
and to not be afraid to not be duplicitous. I mean,

813
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,559
I think these are things that cannot be taken from

814
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,840
a man. And make no mistake that I think the

815
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,920
non Faustian groups are just never, never going to stop

816
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:56,159
until every Faustian accomplishment has been taken.

817
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's also why it was given a way to

818
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:09,880
people who don't deserve it. And some may try to

819
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,800
make the argument that was done to try to improve

820
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,079
those other groups.

821
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:17,239
Speaker 2: No, that's not what it was done at all.

822
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:24,119
Speaker 1: It was done so and it's mentioned in here one

823
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:29,559
to give power to those other groups to destroy turn

824
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:34,159
around and destroy the Faustian But also it was a

825
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:40,400
way of profit. It was pure profit motive for some

826
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:43,280
that they will be able to control this and they

827
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,559
will be able to benefit from it because it will

828
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:51,000
grow commerce, It will help it will help spread commerce,

829
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,159
throughout the world, and those who benefit from commerce, and

830
00:59:55,199 --> 01:00:01,440
those who benefit by not even partaking in, but by

831
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:06,159
controlling the mechanisms through which commerce has done. We've seen

832
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:09,280
this in the we saw this in the recent Epstein

833
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:13,840
Epstein Files, where he says, we make our money, we

834
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,039
don't work to make our money. Let the Goya and

835
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:24,880
do that. That's exactly why these things would be given

836
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,559
over to people who don't deserve them, who didn't build them,

837
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,880
who didn't Yeah, they didn't partake in the creation of.

838
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: It, right, and Spengler Actually there's a separate source. I mean,

839
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,719
if you enjoy this stream, and if you've looked at

840
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:42,400
the book and you want more, there's a book out

841
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,039
there which is a collection of Spengler's previously unpunished notes

842
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:50,920
called Early Days of World History Reflections on the Past,

843
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,480
where he just goes it's just a collection of what

844
01:00:55,519 --> 01:01:00,559
would have been a future work on prehistoric civilizations. And

845
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,719
with your line recently about the nature of these sort

846
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,480
of parasitic people, he has a great line on the Dorians. Now,

847
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,320
I don't really know anything about the Dorians, but I'll

848
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,639
read this quote. The Dorians immigrated as ver Sacrum as

849
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:20,400
a Sacred Spring. A group of young men expelled from

850
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,519
the tribe to conquer new land and found a new

851
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:32,000
tribe there. Men's house, as they came alone, was therefore homosexual,

852
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:36,000
which the native population did not know at all. These

853
01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:40,320
people adopted the language of the subjugated, the women. This

854
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:44,679
is this later Dorian group. It is ridiculous to infer

855
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,760
the origin from their language. And he cites as an

856
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:55,000
example of this homosexual, feminized group without family as two

857
01:01:55,039 --> 01:02:00,800
examples to him are Jews and Haitian Negroes. So very interesting,

858
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,079
and he kind of pairs this with a series of

859
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:10,639
other quotes about Indo European language families, theirs, similarities, their overlap.

860
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:15,760
He's a series of great quotes on how people groups

861
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,679
come about. That the Greeks are not a people. There's

862
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:24,360
the Spartans, the Thebians, the Germans were not a people,

863
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,960
but they were the Prussians and the Austrians. They are

864
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,239
fighting units in the stream of history. And what fights

865
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,280
as a singular unit is a people. And so the

866
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,920
core of a people group is the crew. Any war

867
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,039
party that goes out on land or sea contains the

868
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:48,159
genesis of a people group within itself. And this is

869
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:50,320
a really fascinating one that adds a lot of context.

870
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,800
If you're not up for as much meta history as

871
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:57,960
Decline of the West, highly recommend the book Early Days

872
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,159
of World History, even though it's a collection of quotes.

873
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:09,320
He talks about the soul. This is a great one.

874
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:12,480
Let's see, there are two kinds of egotism in the soul.

875
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,920
That I am valuable to the culture, and that I

876
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,840
am valuable to myself. That is posh and base in

877
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,480
world cities. The second one prevails bread and circuses. In

878
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:29,760
the old lineage you have Rome, England, Prussian. The nobility.

879
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,000
The aristocratic attitude, values the personality according to its value

880
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,599
for the cause, the status the lord I serve, whereas

881
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:41,639
the democratic one wants to ensure everyone the enjoyment of

882
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:45,559
their person This is the opposite of duty, of any

883
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:51,840
attachment of actual freedom. The aristocrat feels obliged by attitude, action,

884
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,519
and form to serve the cause to which he belongs,

885
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:58,559
is therefore obligated to preserve and increase his rank and wealth.

886
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,079
To him, the cause is elevated, and it is repreend representation.

887
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,679
The intellectual nobility lives himself for pleasure and only imitates

888
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:13,519
the noble. The proud solitude that the intellectual has purely

889
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:18,320
represents a lost cause. The aristocrat demands with the clear conscience,

890
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,960
self evident submission, obedienism, obedience, because the cause lives in him.

891
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,000
The extreme opposite is the worldview of the urban rabble,

892
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:32,559
from the rich to the unemployed, enjoyment at other people's expense.

893
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:40,039
So just banger after banger in this quote. In this book,

894
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,559
there's also quotes on sacrifices. He has a whole section

895
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:49,039
on the Bible. Although I haven't had time to go

896
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:54,000
as much into it, it's a very interesting book and

897
01:04:54,119 --> 01:05:00,719
it sort of escapes this Anglo critical autistic view for categorization.

898
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,760
I mean, I read some of Toynbee when AA's book

899
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Prophets of Doom came out, and I just found it.

900
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,280
It was so systematized. It was this kind of lifeless history.

901
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,840
I think it's not good to read these sorts of

902
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,960
anthologies that are just a series of name states and persons.

903
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,159
It robs agency of it, and also it pulls the

904
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,400
it pulls the real genesis of culture out of that thing,

905
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,480
rendering it kind of inert. And one interesting thing that

906
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:39,079
he talks about also in this book. It's kind of

907
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,840
like this undergirding theme. But when he's complaining about rationalists,

908
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:48,119
he's writing about a sort of Marxism that's overwhelmingly dominant

909
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:50,440
in the nineteen twenties and thirties, and this is something

910
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:58,000
that Spengler understands. But is so I mean, in our

911
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:00,440
modern times we throw the word Marxist around a ton,

912
01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:06,039
but Spengler was dealing with actual Marxism, and so the

913
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:12,079
rationalists that he's criticizing, these base utilitarians, he's criticizing them

914
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:16,159
as the antithesis of culture. And I think it's a

915
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,960
very powerful technique. It's much different than say, like a

916
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:25,679
Milton Friedman capitalism versus socialism stupid debunking. I mean, I

917
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,079
think it was I don't know whether it was Carl

918
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:30,719
or someone else said it, but I heard on a

919
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,920
podcast recently that the United States is essentially planned economy.

920
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:38,400
And once I heard that, it kind of flipped the

921
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,320
script in my head of the function of this state.

922
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, is it essentially planned economy? And

923
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,000
has it been from the start? Well, I mean you'd

924
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,960
have to look at what you're looking for. Is you're

925
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,840
looking for lack of a better term cronyism out. You know,

926
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:06,159
you also have to look at some of the motivations

927
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:10,280
for the foundation of the country, and many of them

928
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:17,199
were commercial. So yeah, yeah, it makes it makes sense.

929
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,119
And I'm trying to think of what his what he

930
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:29,639
starts breaking down economics as economics is supposed to be

931
01:07:29,719 --> 01:07:32,599
a tool, not to be all end all, and we've

932
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:38,000
basically gotten to the point where people judge their quote

933
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:42,480
unquote liberty and freedom, which really doesn't which are terms

934
01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:46,400
it don't mean anything in in the grand scale of history.

935
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,119
As you know, they're econ how economics is. You know,

936
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:55,519
when you you could see this today with you know,

937
01:07:55,559 --> 01:08:02,599
this war that's happening or what they what said about

938
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:09,000
said when being questioned about Epstein, Well, you know the Tao,

939
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:15,239
the Tao, this is how people view freedom and liberty,

940
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:19,199
and they don't think freedom and liberty existed before the Enlightenment,

941
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,119
and all freedom and liberty was before the Enlightenment was responsibility.

942
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it was. Yeah, I kind of think

943
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,000
about I mean, Spengler died in I think nineteen thirty six,

944
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,920
so he didn't really see this world metastasized. But when

945
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,840
I think about the stream that you and I did

946
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,199
on Edward Brenees. I think the way that this machine

947
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:48,800
technics manifests itself today is in the generation of public

948
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,520
relations and the perception of things. And so while that

949
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,640
used to be tied to consumption of a product, now

950
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,439
it's just this entirely metaphors view that we're enslaved to.

951
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:05,399
And I have like a similar mindset on Spengler in

952
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,880
the same way with the way he views his own

953
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,840
machine techniques with how we look at consumption. I mean specifically,

954
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,000
thinking about this Iran war. Everything the administration has put

955
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:26,359
out has been it's not even self referential. It's just

956
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:31,520
a series of basically kind of tweets in human form.

957
01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:34,000
This is something I've picked up on throughout the Trump

958
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:40,880
administration is the content without substance that is persisting. It's

959
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,239
showing that these people in the administration and power are

960
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:51,920
kind of enslaved to this generation of how they're received

961
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:55,520
by the audience. You know. So I know that Baujillard

962
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,119
had this whole thing of the Iraq War didn't take

963
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:03,039
place because it was simply this watched information on television

964
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:07,279
that was very carefully curated and presented to the American

965
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:11,039
people and that unless you were in a very specific family,

966
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:14,640
you had no direct impact to anything. With the Gulf War,

967
01:10:15,079 --> 01:10:17,520
it was a pure media event. I think we've seen

968
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:23,119
almost the enslavement of American culture to this where our

969
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:26,880
culture is kind of participating in the Iran War against

970
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,159
its will. Even in the administration, know that there isn't

971
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:34,880
even a single thought really about the strategic objectives. Otherwise,

972
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,039
in the week since this has started, they would have

973
01:10:37,119 --> 01:10:40,520
come out and had like a schwartz Cough style press

974
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,159
conference on it, or they either would have announced a

975
01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:45,920
strategic vision or they would have at the very least

976
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,520
tried to cover their assets. They're not even really capable

977
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,079
of either of those two things. They're just kind of

978
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,079
all they're really capable of doing is like feeding this

979
01:10:54,239 --> 01:11:00,680
content machine around glorifying warfare itself. So I think the

980
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:06,640
Iran War did not take place. But also the prevalence

981
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,039
of AI and a lot of the footage, the prevalence

982
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:15,520
of bots, the spin the AI generated news articles, even

983
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,239
the nature of this political system, and also this war

984
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:25,319
it is also machine technics, and we are also captured

985
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:30,439
by it, not in charge of it, even with the leaders.

986
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:38,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty simple examples. I was out in public, and

987
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:41,119
I heard a boomer say they were glad that you

988
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:43,800
know that we were doing this to Iran because they've

989
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,760
been at war with US for forty seven years. And

990
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,520
I'm like, okay, well you just heard that on Fox News.

991
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,319
And then you have other people who are like, you know,

992
01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:54,920
this is going to start World War three, and this

993
01:11:55,039 --> 01:12:00,439
is well, you're listening that thought when it came into

994
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,199
your mind, if somebody put it, unless somebody put it there.

995
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,920
So there is barely an original thought about this war,

996
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,399
about what's happening, because if you're not talking to people

997
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:20,680
who are actually experiencing it, you don't know what you're talking.

998
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,119
You don't know what you're hearing. You know, you hear

999
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,039
Pete Hegseth said today that you know, well maybe one

1000
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:31,800
of the reasons why a girl's a school was hit

1001
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:38,039
was because they were firing missiles from there. Well, I mean,

1002
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:45,079
anybody who pays attention to what Israel does to Gazo

1003
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:51,560
whenever they kill civilians, he's just repeating what they say.

1004
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:58,039
There is nothing. This isn't a war. This is a

1005
01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:07,439
gigantic meme. No one, even the people prosecuting it, have

1006
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,960
any idea of what they're doing of what's actually happening.

1007
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,439
And they may think they do, and they may think

1008
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,239
they're doing well by and they may even know that

1009
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:25,119
they are putting propaganda out there, but they truly don't

1010
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:32,279
understand what is happening because they've never stood back and

1011
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:39,000
calculated all of the consequences that that are wrought by

1012
01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:43,439
something like this. And I don't think they even have

1013
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,600
the ability to do that intellectually.

1014
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean in a Christian sense. If you make your

1015
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:54,800
business being a public face, speaking to an audience and

1016
01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:01,119
just lying, you can't go into your private life or

1017
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:03,399
your strategic state of mind where you have to think

1018
01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:07,159
about second in order consequences and not lie to yourself.

1019
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:12,880
It's going to be a reinforcing process. And it's also

1020
01:14:13,039 --> 01:14:19,239
something where each producer of content is marketing to their

1021
01:14:19,279 --> 01:14:23,479
own audience. So I sent you a picture privately of

1022
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:26,279
I was at the gym and this guy on the

1023
01:14:26,319 --> 01:14:28,840
back of his SUV had a printed out piece of

1024
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:33,159
paper that said make Iran Great Again with the flag

1025
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:35,680
as it existed at the time of the shop, and

1026
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:38,039
I ran into the guy driving. I didn't talk to him,

1027
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:40,039
but you know, this guy is probably in his sixties,

1028
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:43,279
and I was just thinking to myself, what goes on

1029
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,279
in this guy's head is like this fictitious idea of

1030
01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:53,000
Iran and this fictitious idea of America, And like, this

1031
01:14:53,079 --> 01:14:57,600
guy could not be more alienated from your average Iranian

1032
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,600
person on the ground right now in that country. This

1033
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,199
is why I have a fundamental problem with diaspora groups,

1034
01:15:05,239 --> 01:15:09,479
because they're whether they're Jewish, whether they're Indian, whatever, they're

1035
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:15,079
all really fundamentally alienated from their own culture. Like this

1036
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,239
Iranian like make Iran great again. Well, first off, that's

1037
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:23,600
just a totally ripped pr point from the Trump administration. Secondly,

1038
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,920
when was Iran great? What do you want to return

1039
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,119
it to? Because it can't be the Shah that was

1040
01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:35,359
artificial and it can't be ancient Persia because that's too

1041
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:41,520
far away from modern times and technology. And also what

1042
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,560
image would Iran have to be made into for you

1043
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,960
to leave your diaspora and return home to that country.

1044
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:51,199
And I feel like in that alienated sense, everyone politically

1045
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,399
is in that similar boat. We're all sort of chasing

1046
01:15:55,439 --> 01:16:01,520
this dragon of wanting someone in power, one of these leaders,

1047
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:06,680
to tell us what we can't manifest externally in the world.

1048
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:11,039
And which they themselves have totally lost control over. I think,

1049
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,000
especially with the Iran War. Not to talk too much

1050
01:16:15,039 --> 01:16:20,079
about it, but America has ten victory conditions. Iran only

1051
01:16:20,119 --> 01:16:23,920
needs to survive. That's all they have to do. And

1052
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,119
some of the language that has come out of the

1053
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:36,159
administration is uh, it's incoherent, and it's psychotic, and it

1054
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:44,520
lacks all elements of Christian mercy and justice. I mean,

1055
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:48,479
if this war had to be fought, I mean, if

1056
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,520
it really had to be fought, it could have been

1057
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,359
fought in a different manner. But it's not being fought. Like,

1058
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,199
just to freaking say it, this war is being fought

1059
01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:02,600
in an Israeli manner by the United States. That's the

1060
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:08,640
biggest problem with it. The tactics, the strategy. It's not

1061
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,359
an American fought war, it's an Israeli fought one.

1062
01:17:13,039 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is is that we're under no misconceptions

1063
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:25,199
that we know you have to propaganda for whenever you're

1064
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:28,760
doing something like this, but you also have to have

1065
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,720
a goal. Pete hag Set Pete hag Set's goal is

1066
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,479
to rebuild the Third Temple. Benjamin at Yahoo's goal is

1067
01:17:38,119 --> 01:17:44,000
greater Israel. Donald Trump's goal is his legacy or what.

1068
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:48,760
I don't even know what it is. It's not to

1069
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,520
help the American people, because this doesn't help the American people.

1070
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,279
So how do you do something when the people who

1071
01:17:56,359 --> 01:17:59,960
are prosecuting it all have different motives for doing it.

1072
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:05,600
There cannot be any accomplishment because there's only accomplishment if

1073
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:12,560
you're all working towards the same goal and nobody's There

1074
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,600
are too many factions participating in this who have their

1075
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,199
own motivations. And then there, you know, are other people

1076
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:26,880
who just want to see Trump succeed because they're cowards

1077
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:33,960
and they're scared of the Left, that's basically, or they're

1078
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:39,119
just followers. They're just followers. They want a king, they

1079
01:18:39,159 --> 01:18:44,039
need a king, and they think that that's what Trump

1080
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,359
Trump is even though he's going to be out of

1081
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:51,520
office in three years. It just doesn't There is no

1082
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,279
it's not coherent. There is nothing coherent about it.

1083
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: And it's very I mean, what's strange to me. And

1084
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,279
this is like my personal perspective, Like I lived there

1085
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:09,760
in Israel for several years as a Jew, and the

1086
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,760
Israel that I lived in in Israeli media and Hebrew

1087
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,119
was making efforts to make inroads with the Golf States.

1088
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,359
There hadn't been any conflict for a little bit with

1089
01:19:23,399 --> 01:19:28,239
the Palestinians. They were considering more concessions. They were doing

1090
01:19:28,279 --> 01:19:31,560
more trade and business with the Gulf States. But also,

1091
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:39,039
you know, Iran and Lebanon were viewed as endgame scenarios.

1092
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:43,279
Basically that this would be the last domino that would

1093
01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:46,680
have to fall, but also that it was a very

1094
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:54,439
unobtainable objective that the instances of espionage within Iran for

1095
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,279
nuclear programs by Masad in the early two thousands, but

1096
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:04,399
also the you know, the earlier war in Lebanon, these

1097
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:10,560
were treated as historical cases that were to be avoided.

1098
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:15,600
That essentially, yes, according to Israel in that time, Iran

1099
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,239
could not get a nuclear weapon, but we would not

1100
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,000
precipitate any overt conflict to make that happen with Lebanon.

1101
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,920
The biggest cultural touchdown at the time was Israel was

1102
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,399
embroiled in that war between nineteen eighty three and two

1103
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,680
thousand due to its own making, obviously, and it was

1104
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,439
extremely unpopular with in Israel because it was a quagmire.

1105
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,800
The line in Israel was that it was like in

1106
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,000
to the American struggle in Iraq, that we were just

1107
01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:48,720
stuck there and getting bombed by Hesbelah and it was

1108
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,840
just a disaster that we could not win a ground

1109
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,159
invasion in Lebanon. And it would seem that since I

1110
01:20:54,199 --> 01:20:56,439
have lived there and really not much has changed, not

1111
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:01,279
the political powers in Israel domestically, not their relationship internationally,

1112
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,159
not even the man in charge, but only really with

1113
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:10,319
this October seventh thing, every single lesson that Israel has learned,

1114
01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:14,399
it has forgotten and it is going to I mean,

1115
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,479
I really can't emphasize this enough. Like it is making

1116
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:23,800
for its own self interests the worst possible series of

1117
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,079
decisions it could possibly make, even ones that it advised

1118
01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:31,399
itself against just a few years ago. That's the part

1119
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,600
that is really mind blowing to me, is it's not

1120
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:45,640
only incredibly stupid, but it's just everyone in Israel knew

1121
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:49,399
this is why you shouldn't do this, and then it's

1122
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,800
just like this societal spiritual amnesia. I don't even know

1123
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,159
how to frame it. Everyone's so caught up with the

1124
01:21:57,279 --> 01:22:04,840
Zionism that you know that like sober perception is just gone.

1125
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,199
It's it's it's very strange, and it sucked the United

1126
01:22:08,199 --> 01:22:14,319
States in with it, and there's no objective and I

1127
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:17,439
don't know, you know, Netlo is not going to live forever.

1128
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:23,319
And you know, Israel is going to have to persist

1129
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:28,640
in this region of the world that it made alone

1130
01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:32,000
with you know, armaments and assistance from the United States.

1131
01:22:32,039 --> 01:22:33,479
You know, it's going to have to contend with the

1132
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,399
fact that it alienated every sunny state it wanted to

1133
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:41,600
economically partner with, and that it pushed its endgame in Iran,

1134
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:47,399
which was always stupid by its own standards, and that

1135
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,720
you know, frankly, it's God. It's gotten a lot of

1136
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:59,079
its young people killed for to know no reason, and

1137
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:01,479
there's a lot of I mean, as I'm an Orthodox Christian,

1138
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:06,800
and you know, a huge problem obviously with the bombing

1139
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,560
of churches, with the killing of priests, with the intense

1140
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,800
disregard for human life, rules of operation AI targeted systems

1141
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:20,159
as well, is just overtly demonic and really I can't

1142
01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:25,199
think of a more evil form of warfare. And it

1143
01:23:25,399 --> 01:23:29,319
just would seem that, I don't know, we always have

1144
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,720
these on such a pessimistic note, Pete, but uh, you know,

1145
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,079
the optimistic part, the optimistic part and view that I have.

1146
01:23:37,279 --> 01:23:42,319
It is cowardice. I suppose to quote Spangler, but it's

1147
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:48,479
that things are so fucked up that it cannot persist

1148
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:55,079
like this going forward, something geopolitically or in the energy market,

1149
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,279
or in the broader economy, or in the relationship between

1150
01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:02,920
the generations of people in the United States, like something

1151
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:08,439
is going to just fracture and that will eventually force change.

1152
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:14,079
And while we're building our own thing privately personally with

1153
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:17,960
your old glory club and outside of it, you know,

1154
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:21,960
that's really all the time and attention that we can

1155
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,640
spare towards the chaos in the world.

1156
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, when you.

1157
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said before, when you say optimism is

1158
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:39,720
cowardice out of context, you you know, people can right

1159
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:45,640
rightly criticize you. But once you understand that, once you

1160
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:55,680
embrace optimism, you're either relying upon others or you're abandoning

1161
01:24:56,319 --> 01:25:01,880
your your effort, or you're slowing your effort down, or

1162
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:09,920
you're not punching through the enemy. You're not punching through

1163
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,520
the obstacles, and you're going to keep on going. You know,

1164
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,880
you can't cross the rubicon and set up camp on

1165
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,560
the other side. You have to keep going that's just

1166
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,279
exactly what we have to do at this point. And yeah,

1167
01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:33,359
relying on other people, especially people who make decisions to

1168
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:42,560
take massive actions without contemplating all of the consequences or

1169
01:25:44,279 --> 01:25:49,880
or risks inherent in them. You can't rely upon those people.

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They're not they don't possess a high culture. I'd argue

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they don't possess any culture, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, And we shouldn't be living. We shouldn't have to

1173
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:09,359
live moment to moment. The Chinese have this kind of

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model where they'll look a half century or a century

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out into the future, and in our short term society,

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we are really only thinking day to day. And what's

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terrifying to me about it is that our leadership also

1178
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appears to somehow be thinking day to day of how

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to proceed with a course of action. And I think,

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you know, I've I don't know. I won't get too personal,

1181
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but it's lent and I'm reading my Bible, and I'm

1182
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very happy that I read this book with you for

1183
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,079
this stream, because it took my mind off sort of

1184
01:26:55,119 --> 01:27:00,720
the insanity of social media. And also, there's always time

1185
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for the psalms. There's always time for just trying to

1186
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view a world in a different way that's just full

1187
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,640
of just a little bit fewer lies. I think. I

1188
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think it's good for you. I mean, I just think

1189
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there's so much bull that is circulating around since this

1190
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,399
war started. It's important to keep your head on straight.

1191
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,760
And Spengler definitely says it straight. There is no confusion

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with him.

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Speaker 1: The greatest decision I've made in a while in a

1194
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long time was to get off of social media for lents.

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I haven't been off of I haven't been on social

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01:27:48,359 --> 01:27:54,279
media since le been on social media X or Twitter,

1197
01:27:55,279 --> 01:28:03,359
place book. Yeah, it's just it's I'm thinking so much

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more clearly.

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Speaker 3: Well, I find with and you know, who knows whether

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it's just the cortisol thing or whether it's the short

1201
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:15,439
term tension span thing. But with Instagram, with Twitter, with

1202
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:21,800
these services, they I just notice it is it's like curated.

1203
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And maybe it's the cognitive warfare thing too. You're you're

1204
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just angry and you're miserable, and you're seeing stuff where

1205
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if you saw it in public, you would get violent.

1206
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And I think that taking people right up to that

1207
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red line of violent impulses and depressing content. I mean,

1208
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I think it kind of renders them inert to think

1209
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clearly and concisely about anything. And you know, it's like

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you scroll on Twitter for a minute and you just

1211
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:58,239
see horrible stuff and it's like, I don't know, how

1212
01:28:58,319 --> 01:29:01,520
is this making me happy or beneficial? I mean, you know,

1213
01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:04,520
as a guest on your stream, I mean I guess, uh.

1214
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,600
I really try to just have no as philos Miscellaney,

1215
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:15,760
just no social media presence, and uh on my YouTube channel,

1216
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:20,119
I get these like huge comments from people, and I

1217
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:24,119
know that I'm doing something right because and I've seen

1218
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this in uh, you know, really anything in this side

1219
01:29:27,399 --> 01:29:29,239
of things, like the way that people sit down and

1220
01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:33,920
think about things and write stuff out. It's we're not

1221
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,800
just tuning it for the cloud of the money. If

1222
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there was, if if if I wanted the clout or

1223
01:29:39,159 --> 01:29:42,239
the money, I would have stayed Jewish and compromised on

1224
01:29:42,319 --> 01:29:47,000
my principles and done hospital for Ben Shapiro, like I

1225
01:29:47,319 --> 01:29:53,359
chose to do something a little bit harder and getting

1226
01:29:53,399 --> 01:30:01,520
baptized and committing to Orthodoxy. You know, I think I

1227
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,920
think you have this mindset that uh, you know, well,

1228
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maybe it's not the most Christian thing in the world

1229
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:11,359
to do to uh expose myself to the world's evil

1230
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:14,159
into pravity, because there's always going to be this evil

1231
01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:17,199
into pravity and alienation, you know. And and this, this

1232
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exact form really existed in Spendler's time almost one hundred

1233
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years ago. And this is how Nazi Germany came about

1234
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,840
was because of times like these. And you know what solved.

1235
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It was men taking a step back, organizing and uh

1236
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deciding to fix things. And that's uh everyone I know

1237
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,159
and everyone I you know, these what's of people. You know,

1238
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,880
you got to be in that same position. You can't

1239
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just sit back and just as optimism as cowardice. You

1240
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,399
also can't sit back and just despare totally either.

1241
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Speaker 1: I think that's where we end it, alrighty, thank you Filos. Yeah,

1242
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I always enjoy it. I always get a lot out

1243
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:04,399
of our talk. I appreciate you.

1244
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:05,359
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Pete