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<v Speaker 1>One of us have to speak first, given that it's

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast. I assumed that you would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Callum, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not allowed to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>So things have gone slightly arrived for this week's episode

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<v Speaker 2>of Country Slide in that Richard Nigas is off on

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<v Speaker 2>a fact finding mission about whether they could dump some

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<v Speaker 2>extra sand out into the North Sea and reclaim Dogland

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<v Speaker 2>to make it an extension of Suffolk out towards the

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<v Speaker 2>Low Countries, and Callum is unavailable because he's what is

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<v Speaker 2>he doing? I don't know, something to do with computers

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<v Speaker 2>and AI probably, So instead we have we've got producer Amy,

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<v Speaker 2>who we've allowed to speak for one special week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've purloined George from from Guns on Pegs and

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<v Speaker 2>Scry Pound. So I'll let George speak because he's got

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<v Speaker 2>such a wonderfully melodious voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Melodious is it? Well, it's very nice to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great honor to be asked again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, last time you were here, you were in a

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<v Speaker 2>room which had a timer on the light switch, so

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<v Speaker 2>every sort of seven and a half minutes you had

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up and hit the switch to bring yourself

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<v Speaker 2>back in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had to do sort of interpretive dance in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the room to get the motion sensor to

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<v Speaker 1>register that I was present. Today, I am in a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different place, and hopefully all the lights will not

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<v Speaker 1>go out. I'm interested in this doggerland thing. Though. How

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<v Speaker 1>far out into the North Sea does Nigas propose we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he's suggesting that we, you know, rejoined the continent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be too far, even for Richard Nigus.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he does quite like spending time in the

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<v Speaker 2>South of Italy and things like that, but reattaching Suffolk

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<v Speaker 2>fully to the continent might be too much for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it would be. I think that would

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<v Speaker 3>be just a little step too far. But getting close

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<v Speaker 3>enough that you could use something such as a trebishe

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<v Speaker 3>he might be for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he would. He'd be very happy about all

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<v Speaker 1>the new flat land though, wouldn't he? Probably flat land?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of the hedge and dike opportunities that that would

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<v Speaker 2>offer in that new land.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a very good point. There'd be some very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting archaeology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean, in all seriousness, it is something people

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<v Speaker 2>have suggested. Because you go, you'd have to go that

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<v Speaker 2>far off the coast of Suffolk, and the water is

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<v Speaker 2>only a meter or two deep in places. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that the old land this land bridge that used to

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<v Speaker 2>connect the British Isles to Europe was was there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was it had rolling hills and valleys and all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of sort of herds of elk running around and

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<v Speaker 2>hunter gatherers trying to hunt them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's going to still need quite a lot of sand.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine we do we need Bedfordshire. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dig out Bedfordshire.

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<v Speaker 2>I think hollow out Bedfordshire and make dogg aland is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the best option for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Really seems fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So we are recording this at the very very

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<v Speaker 2>end of June, and it will be coming out at

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning of July. And for several reasons in

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<v Speaker 2>our world, July is effectively either you started harvesting early

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<v Speaker 2>month or it's game fair month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll tell you what I reckon. Harvest. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>in this neck of the woods looks like it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be pretty early this year. I was out in

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<v Speaker 1>Wiltshire over the weekend and the barley looks absolutely ready

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<v Speaker 1>to rip. Now it's not actually ready. I chewed some

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still pretty soft, but it's all ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as color wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Where was this scene where you were just standing in

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<v Speaker 2>someone's field chewing barley? Or is this just did you

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<v Speaker 2>stop for a week and a lay by?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I was. We were out on a sim day

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<v Speaker 1>with the most noble order to gardis the guns on

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<v Speaker 1>peg podcast listeners. So we were surrounded by the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>rolling chalk valleys of Wiltshire and lots of stunning scenery. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, their barley all looked ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the barley actually grown well this year it's gone

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<v Speaker 3>tall enough and everything, or is it still a bit stunted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a little bit short.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little bit short, very dry recently, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>we've had we don't have crops around here in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way that you guys do in Hampshire and East Country,

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<v Speaker 3>but the silid cuts that they've been taking have been

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<v Speaker 3>pretty short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not as short as last year when it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, sort of barely even knee high in places,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a better than that. And actually, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they look like decent thick crops. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>only inspected one ear in great detail. So also, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really an agronomist or a farmer in any meaningful sense,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sort of starting to reach the outer limits

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<v Speaker 1>of my knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, is this going to be a service you offer

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<v Speaker 2>to people? Sort of George Brown's metaphysical crop walks. You

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<v Speaker 2>sort of go out and say whether it feels right.

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<v Speaker 1>I do quite a lot of farming from car on

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<v Speaker 1>long journeys. You know, look out the window and go, courk,

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<v Speaker 1>cows look good, you know, as you whistle past at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five seventy miles an hour, it's the perfect speed

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<v Speaker 1>at which to assess livestock.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like vibe farming. Yeah, like just going right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a little bit soft weight. Two more days

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<v Speaker 3>and that'll be hard enough, ready to go perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually drive by mountaineering from car where you would

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<v Speaker 2>as driving or a valley on the way to somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 2>look at all these ridges and go, yeah, I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>that would go sort of Grade three scramble or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>actually maybe it's a VID in that section, so you

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<v Speaker 2>might be ropes on there, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, drive by farming sounds a bit different, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive by farming sounds like, you know, you surreptitiously deposit

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<v Speaker 1>livestock on somebody's place as you go past.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gorilla farming. It's like steed bombing, but except you

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<v Speaker 2>do it with cows, you know, freesion bombing.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, like, I like the idea of gorilla farming.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of drive by farming. I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know this could be a new movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean certainly there's a campaign there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of the anti Derek gow.

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<v Speaker 2>With beaver bombing that he does allegedly allegedly or links bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>because the other one isn't it allegedly? Who are you

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<v Speaker 2>my lawyer?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>On this stage. You appeared on a podcast where you

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that's so and so engaged in a legal activity.

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<v Speaker 2>So the wonderful gamefare at Ragley Hall? Are we all going?

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<v Speaker 1>We are?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I am m hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe I aren't because you need somebody to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, the questions have been raised about whether I

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<v Speaker 2>should put in for the mobility scooter this year to

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<v Speaker 2>get around.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, you won't have another opportunity to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, twenty odd years at least.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope not we hope now. I mean, I do

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<v Speaker 2>quite like the idea of rattling down those metal walkways

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<v Speaker 2>on the main sections on a mobility scooter like Rommel,

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<v Speaker 2>of rolling rolling into the again into the low.

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<v Speaker 3>Country, you'd be you'd be doing or just technique drive

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<v Speaker 3>by game faring.

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<v Speaker 2>Drive by game faring. Guess you don't have to actually

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<v Speaker 2>go into any of the stalls. You just go past

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<v Speaker 2>some judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if you take some binoculars you can see

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<v Speaker 3>the prices from the walkway.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing you as I do, it wouldn't be surprising to

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<v Speaker 1>me if you modeled your game Fair mobility scooter to

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<v Speaker 1>make it do forty miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that when you're still wandering through the

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<v Speaker 2>thronged crowds, can you be a thronged crowd and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>turn behind you and there's a nineteen year old with

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<v Speaker 2>long hair wearing a high vis vest, driving a John

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<v Speaker 2>Deere gator or something very very slowly with a VIP

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<v Speaker 2>on board, trying to get to wherever they're doing a talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you ever done the game Fair setup? Because

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<v Speaker 1>they are extremely enthusiastic about people wearing high vis at

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<v Speaker 1>all time?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they? I never have I used to do years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>or of the family business. We used to do lots

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<v Speaker 2>of country fair set up things, but that was late nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousands. Where as long as you didn't run

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<v Speaker 2>over more than three people per show, they didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>give a crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that they had a ticking off from

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<v Speaker 1>the HSE at some point, because certainly when I first

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<v Speaker 1>did one, which would have been just the year post COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably twenty twenty one, they didn't appear to give

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<v Speaker 1>two hoots, and then in subsequent years they've got more

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<v Speaker 1>and more enthusiastic about neon vests.

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<v Speaker 2>The guns on pegstand are sort of evolved into this

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<v Speaker 2>like a floating aircraft carrier of a stand now, hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>it with all sorts of sections.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sort of part living room, part part office I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>and a bar.

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<v Speaker 2>The air again next year this year, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, guntle Pegs will be there. Yes, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have very much to do with the activities

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand these days. I'm there representing the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. So we're recording in the

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<v Speaker 1>Gamefare Theater again on Saturday, which we do every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and much of the rest of the time, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a punter, barring one or two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, that's nice. What time are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>be at the Carter Jonas Theater with podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's four thirty. I think we have the

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<v Speaker 1>theater from four, but it normally takes us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time to get set up, so yeah, four thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be on stage for about an hour or so,

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<v Speaker 1>talking shooting related nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>It was last year where just as you were all

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<v Speaker 2>going in, I said to Sam of your tribe, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Just remember that everyone's looking at you, judging you, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is recorded live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have to say that podcasting for me feels

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<v Speaker 1>very natural and sort of my happy place. Being on

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<v Speaker 1>stage I find really quite scary, certainly in the build

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<v Speaker 1>in and I can sort of I'm so concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that we get to the next bit and

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<v Speaker 1>that the thing's flowing along nicely that I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>forget how nervous I am. But if you look closely,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be able to see my hands shaking for

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<v Speaker 1>the first ten or fifteen minutes until I settle into it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>The adrenaline sort of flows through the rest of you,

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<v Speaker 2>down into the ground and out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a reason we have a drink in our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, does it help if you

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<v Speaker 1>One year, I bought I typically I might drink for

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of Cask Strength New Zealand whiskey. And I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the little flammable warning on the label.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy, You've not your first attendance at a game there

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see. So what what did you think about there?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting because the first one that we attended

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<v Speaker 3>were younger, and all this kind of thing pschi nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I like my I know my uncle used to go

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<v Speaker 3>fishing as a boy, but it's kind of like everybody

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<v Speaker 3>did then, I suppose, especially where they lived. But the

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<v Speaker 3>game fair completely different place to me, completely different crowd,

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<v Speaker 3>but was really nice and just relaxed, interesting, lots to see,

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<v Speaker 3>lots to do, loads of things to try food and

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<v Speaker 3>the weather was just fantastic as well, I think. And

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was Ragley And then we went to blen

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<v Speaker 2>him and then it's back at Ragley, which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>easier for us because it's closer, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Amy. What was your experience of sort of trade shows

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<v Speaker 1>and fairs of that ilk before the Game Fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Then, so before the Game Fair when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Mum taking me to kind of the local

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<v Speaker 3>County Show and I just have one memory of that

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<v Speaker 3>where I was looking in the one of the tents

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<v Speaker 3>and they had all sorts of different things, including ferrets,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was handling this ferret which was being really

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<v Speaker 3>nice and gentle, and my mum saw it from across

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<v Speaker 3>the tent and thought, oh, that looks really nic and

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<v Speaker 3>I always loved animals as a kid, and she walked

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<v Speaker 3>over and smelt it and immediately just said, you are

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<v Speaker 3>not having one, no fair, It's in our house, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, I suppose other kind of shows

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<v Speaker 3>that would be similar but in different areas were the

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<v Speaker 3>outdoor trade show, the there's a big outdoor show down

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<v Speaker 3>in London that I went to a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>which was all climbing, hiking, killwalking, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was all indoors as well, so it's always

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<v Speaker 3>a bit different going to anywhere that's like the NEEC

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<v Speaker 3>or this that was at the thing. It's that Excel

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<v Speaker 3>down in London. Yeah. Yeah, so not the same kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing at all. And then, like I said, just

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<v Speaker 3>as a child, County shows so very different.

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<v Speaker 2>There was something you said to me at the first

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<v Speaker 2>game for Amy, there was a layer of conservation and

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<v Speaker 2>land management and farming and all sorts of other things

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<v Speaker 2>overlaid onto is meant to be a recreation thing, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>if you go to the National Outdoor Expo whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>hell it's called this year, which is the hiking one,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't find anything to do with the conservation or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that unless maybe the Woodland Trust have a

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<v Speaker 2>stand there or something like that, and that would be

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one d percent, one hundred percent true. So you've

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<v Speaker 3>been going to the game fair for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing, George.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, actually my first game fare was only in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have gone to one when it used to

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<v Speaker 1>move around a lot when it was the Cla Game Fair.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one in Hampshire, which I remember going to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have been you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if i'd even have been a teenager at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been at Broadlands, I think. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apart from that, and so I've only ever really experienced

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<v Speaker 1>the game Fair until last year at any rate as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody on a stand. And so then last

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<v Speaker 1>year I went along for the day describe and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a stand. So I went along just for the

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday to record the Guns on Pegs podcast and I

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<v Speaker 1>wandered around the game Fair a bit as a punter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such a different experience, you know. Not one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about being on a stand is that

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<v Speaker 1>you often feel guilty for being off it, yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is quite a full on thing and everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're on this stand at sort of

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the morning, seven eight o'clock and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>pretty full on from then until quite late at night

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes because of all the little drinks parties and what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. So, yeah, just being able to wander about

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, nip into a stand and or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nip into a friend's stand and have a chat without

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<v Speaker 1>constantly feeling well I've got to get back because the

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<v Speaker 1>guys will need me, you know. It's nice to have

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<v Speaker 1>that freedom. And actually I did a bit of retail

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<v Speaker 1>there last year. I bought shooting coats for my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an interesting experience trying to work out the

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<v Speaker 1>very confusing size brackets that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to look at the kid's clothing there always seems

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<v Speaker 2>like they've got the arm length right, but not the

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<v Speaker 2>body length.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is exactly it. So I bought two shooting coats,

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<v Speaker 1>ostensibly the same size. My daughter's one is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>fit apart from the sleeves being a little bit long,

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<v Speaker 1>and my son's, I mean it looks like a sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>bag on him. It comes almost to ankle length.

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only assume that they were aiming for the

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<v Speaker 1>same size because the number in it was the same.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like one of those Arabian throbe things sort of

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<v Speaker 2>just walks up here. Wear that is a sole garment, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a trench coat. Yeah, there must be a spreadsheet

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere of the average size of a child like child

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<v Speaker 2>size ratio, but I imagine every manufacturer has got their

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<v Speaker 2>own different version of it, and otherwise it's you end

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<v Speaker 2>up just marketing entirely to short torsoed long armed midgets

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is complete. I mean, I could actually go on

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<v Speaker 1>about this for a very long time, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a country side a broadly countryside podcast, rather than a

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<v Speaker 1>parenting podcast. But yes, different companies. I think they just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of guess, oh, well, you know how big is

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<v Speaker 1>a six year old? Well about that big? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure they've ever seen a six year old.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I always gravitate towards the Gilly stand

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<v Speaker 2>Gilly clothing, because I've got fifty inch chests, thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>ish inch waist and a giant head, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>problem for finding clothing unless you go to Gilly because

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<v Speaker 2>the owner, Hey, is well, I'm fairly sure he's descended

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<v Speaker 2>from the nepheline, the sort of the mythical race of

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<v Speaker 2>giants from the Bible. He he makes me look like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>look tiny in comparison, but all the Gill clothing of

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<v Speaker 2>the sizes brilliantly fit me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Gilly stuff, their sort of field shirt thingies.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought one and I wasn't sure if it was

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<v Speaker 1>the right size, so they then ordered another one the

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<v Speaker 1>next size. Up, and then I got over excited and

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<v Speaker 1>thought I'll have two more. So I'd initially intended to

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<v Speaker 1>return one of them, which everyone turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong size, and in the end I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>bugger it, I'm going to have more of these. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm fishing next week in Scotland, I will be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a Gillie shirt every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this a good ruse to get them past

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<v Speaker 2>your wife as well? So you can say, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same shirt. Look, it's the gilly one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it would be if they weren't different colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, your wife's quite good on those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things, I imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she does tend to notice.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got a few with our three point five

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<v Speaker 2>million listeners or three listeners, whichever one you believe that

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people know what the Game Fair is

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<v Speaker 2>and what it's about by now. We've banged on about

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<v Speaker 2>it often enough in these shows. But it's actually quite

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<v Speaker 2>a little tent pole of an outdoor show within the

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<v Speaker 2>UK market, because it's quite big, isn't it In terms

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<v Speaker 2>of numbers. It's one hundred and thirty thousand people over

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<v Speaker 2>three days, big numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I often see sort of people. You know, after all

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<v Speaker 1>of these shows, those people on social media moaning about

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Oh, we've turned up and we've been round

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<v Speaker 1>in two hours. It was time to go home. We've

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<v Speaker 1>done everything, And I just think that's nonsense. There is

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<v Speaker 1>so much to see and do, and there are huge

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of people there, particularly on sort of the Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>if it's sunny, it's it's like Piccadilly Circus there sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>And because you're in those rows, in between all the

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<v Speaker 2>tents and the marquies and the things, it often feels

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<v Speaker 2>quite busy, just by the fact you can't fit everyone

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<v Speaker 2>into that what gun makers row or the was the

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<v Speaker 2>shopping experience or something wherever you go to buy your

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<v Speaker 2>hot tubs from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Callum Callum had been to like four

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<v Speaker 3>or five shows before he even managed to make it

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<v Speaker 3>into the Fishing Village, haven't they. So I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>that you can get around the whole show in two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you do have to go looking for the Fishing

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<v Speaker 1>Village a bit. What is you have done in previous years?

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of because they put it down by the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sort of have to go and hunt it out?

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<v Speaker 1>A bit. It's sort of slightly off to one side.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the way Callum described it was sort of like Brigerdoon.

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of like this mythical place that if

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<v Speaker 2>the myths were just right, it would reveal itself to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, oh wow, there's the fishing village. I found

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<v Speaker 2>it this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you have to Invokejeremy Wade.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of Jeremy Wade, we have a We've had

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a ruse and a bit of an

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<v Speaker 2>idea for what we can do for the game Fair

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<v Speaker 2>this year, and being terrible at making money as we are,

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<v Speaker 2>we've decided to do a thing which will cost you,

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<v Speaker 2>the listener, a small amount of money, but the money

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<v Speaker 2>will all go to the Game and Wildlife Conservancy Trust.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to do game fare bingo. And if

426
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<v Speaker 2>the game fair people are listening, it's not your trademarked

427
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<v Speaker 2>game Fair, it's a different game fare.

428
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<v Speaker 1>So could we call it generic outdoor field Sports and

429
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<v Speaker 1>Farming show bingo?

430
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<v Speaker 2>Standing in a field next to Ragley Hall bingo? So, George,

431
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<v Speaker 2>you came up with a list after one of our

432
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<v Speaker 2>episodes last year for game Fair a game Fair bingo card.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Can you remember what was on it.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Vaguely. It included squares that had your face and Nigas's

435
00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>face and Callum's face, and I think there was one

436
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 1>that said something like king Red trousers.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, dog in a pram, Yeah.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Dog in a pram. There was another one that said

439
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<v Speaker 1>being Mustard trousers.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

441
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<v Speaker 1>I can't really. I think it was a sixteen square

442
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<v Speaker 1>grid and I don't think I can reel off all

443
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<v Speaker 1>sixteen of them, but you get the vibe.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what we propose to do this year is

445
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<v Speaker 2>we'll have a maybe I can get it together for

446
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<v Speaker 2>the end of this week. We'll see if it's in

447
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<v Speaker 2>the show notes for this episode I did. If not,

448
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<v Speaker 2>then there's there'll be something next week or the week

449
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<v Speaker 2>after that will have something a list there for you

450
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<v Speaker 2>to buy a game card from this. There'll be several

451
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<v Speaker 2>different versions. There'll be a round about a hound each

452
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and the money goes the game Wildlife Conservancy Trust. You

453
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<v Speaker 2>can buy as many as you wish, but the idea

454
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<v Speaker 2>will be that you go round with your Bingo card

455
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<v Speaker 2>and you can see what you can spot. We also

456
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<v Speaker 2>want suggestions from the audience and there will be a

457
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<v Speaker 2>link for this in the show notes to what goes

458
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<v Speaker 2>on those bingo cards. In fact, I've just realized the

459
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<v Speaker 2>linear nature of time. I need your suggestions, don't I

460
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<v Speaker 2>before I make the bingo cards. So yes, there we go.

461
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<v Speaker 2>That's how time works, Richard's past, present, and future, right.

462
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<v Speaker 3>I mean I do sometimes question if you can understand that,

463
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<v Speaker 3>but you know, let's carry on.

464
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I exist in four dimensional time anyway. So yeah, we

465
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<v Speaker 2>want your suggestions, so send them into the link that's

466
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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes for this episode and send them

467
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<v Speaker 2>to producer Amy. Just things like web trousers, mustard trousers,

468
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<v Speaker 2>dog in a pram vinni.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Jo full camo, full tweed, white jeans, stag do hendu,

470
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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah boy, hats yeah, a teal for Dora.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Well that's Amy.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I was gonna say.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Pith helmet, Yes, very good one, that kind of thing.

474
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<v Speaker 2>So we want your suggestions please, And.

475
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>This is just for fun. So there's no prize, is

476
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<v Speaker 1>that right?

477
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<v Speaker 2>Erm, yes, because a prize would have required organization then

478
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<v Speaker 2>putting out funding for it. The prize is that the

479
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 2>gw CT gets some money and we all have some fun.

480
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But I do think like it would be quite

481
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<v Speaker 1>fun for people to be able to share their success.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought that's a very good idea. So I

483
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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this, but Amy, if you got an

484
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<v Speaker 1>idea before I jump in.

485
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Mine was very simple, is that they can tag country

486
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>slide Pod on social media with a picture of their

487
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<v Speaker 3>card if they want to share it that way.

488
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I think one step further to that, which is in

489
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>order to be declared as to having achieved bingo, which,

490
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 1>now I say that out loud sounds wrong.

491
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Take it back, odd on, darling. We're very nearly at bingo.

492
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyway. You have to take a picture of the of

493
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<v Speaker 1>the item in question for.

494
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<v Speaker 2>It to count.

495
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ah, yeah.

496
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So then you upload your pictures and so I feel

497
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<v Speaker 1>like on Friday or Saturday at the game fair, my

498
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>phone is going to explode the moment I get back

499
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 1>into signal with tags women.

500
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>In Mike miniskirts and things like that.

501
00:27:58.839 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

502
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Fine, algorithm is going to be all over the place.

503
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 2>It already is from the what you people send to me.

504
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Moving on, so game fair bingo, Yes.

505
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<v Speaker 2>We'll announce it via our social media properly with all

506
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the links when it's ready to buy, but that will

507
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>be in the next week or two. We won't make

508
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>any money from this. Apart from the payment process of fees,

509
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>everything or gain go to the Gable Wildlife Conservacy Trust,

510
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>who I'm sure are over the moon to find out

511
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>they're being tied to this event.

512
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 1>In this way, funding is funding exactly exactly.

513
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.119
<v Speaker 2>You can take the check without having to approve the

514
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>method by which is arrived.

515
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, okay, that's our exception. We're sticking with it.

516
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for our sake of our lawyers. But there we go.

517
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So that is the country Slide game fare bingo. Will

518
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<v Speaker 2>you be encouraging the guns on Pegs audience to engage

519
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>in this?

520
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think I will. I We're sort of recording

521
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit out of whack at the moment because well,

522
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>complicated reasons, but mainly because I'm going on holiday next week,

523
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>so I need to work out in which episode I

524
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>need to say this so that it goes out just

525
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 1>before It might be the one I'm recording tomorrow, but

526
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

527
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that you'll have to mention a link that

528
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 2>does not exist yet in the episode that recording tomorrow.

529
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Which will go out when the link does exist.

530
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, fantastic world on everyone.

531
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that delinearature of time is causing problems.

532
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Again, I often find it does in my life. I've

533
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>thought of an idea after it should have happened, and

534
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 2>then I make the preparations for something that doesn't exist yet.

535
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that checks out.

536
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of which, the Project X. Yes, so we're

537
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>all going to be very cagey about talking about this

538
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>for various reasons, but we have hinted at it in

539
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the past. This is this is not the thing that

540
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Callums can't talk about yet. That's a completely different thing.

541
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll like Calum talk about that on his own. Maybe.

542
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe that's definitely not a project either.

543
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 2>No, make a time code note on that, Amy in

544
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>case I have to remove it later for legal reasons.

545
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

546
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 2>So Project X. You may remember regular listeners. Way back

547
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in I think it was February of this year, I

548
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>hurriedly announced that we're going to be doing some extra

549
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>shows in a sort of addition to Countryslide, where they

550
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>will be things like how the Countryside Works, which will

551
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>feature the melodious tones of George Brown off Off Skry

552
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Pound and guns on Pegs.

553
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It will Now it should be added that it's not

554
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 1>going to be me that's doing the explaining there as

555
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 1>we've already established I have not qualified to explain how

556
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>farming works, for example.

557
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Now that's that's the extra content, isn't it. George has

558
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a stab at it before someone's explained it to him.

559
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 1>That's actually quite a good idea. It's a very good idea, George.

560
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Just to keep that one under our hats.

561
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm really looking forward. It's going to be fun.

562
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 2>And we've also got the Land Girls podcast, which is

563
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:24.519
<v Speaker 2>going to.

564
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Be Amy Tis Tis. I'm really looking forward to that

565
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 3>one as well. Doing lots of interviews to find out

566
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 3>all about what what other different careers in conservation, working

567
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>on the land, all these kind of things that are

568
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 3>happening around the UK mostly and talking to the women

569
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>who were who are in those roles finding out more

570
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 3>about them.

571
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>There was an element of finding people who genuinely work

572
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>in conservation and have been working in it for a

573
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.799
<v Speaker 2>while or are forging a career there, not just on

574
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>social media, not just doing it performatively for Instagram and

575
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>things like that. I'd be very careful.

576
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 3>No, But essentially it's not going to be names that

577
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 3>you have heard of necessarily, but they're going to be

578
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 3>people who know what they're doing, and they're very good

579
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 3>at it.

580
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think that the really interesting thing there is

581
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the sort of practition in the nature of it, because

582
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the social media image of the countryside is particularly where

583
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 1>women is concerned, is possibly not focused on people who

584
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>are actually out there, you know, to borrow Patrick Albrace's

585
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 1>rays getting mud under the fingernails so often. It tends

586
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>to be more of a sort of lifestyle approach to

587
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 1>it rather than the actually getting your hands dirty and

588
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>doing things.

589
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

590
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be a really really great,

591
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 1>great podcast that.

592
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's we're hopefully trying to subvert the algorithm

593
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit in doing that as well, because it's

594
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>quite easy for us chaps to do that kind of thing,

595
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 2>because we can just let ourselves go and be any

596
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>handed son of the soil with a whilst not really

597
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 2>caring about our appearance unless you're Harry Hutchinson, which case

598
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you have to be absolutely ripped.

599
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently. I have wondered whether this is where I've been

600
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>going wrong all this time.

601
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, as I said on the after show the other week,

602
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have landed a partner. Now I never

603
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about my appearance or attractiveness to women.

604
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Ever, again, if somebody said to you that country Slide

605
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>would increase its listenership tenfold, if you were suddenly absolutely stacked,

606
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>would that change your view?

607
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean it would sort of remove the sideer and

608
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 2>past these from my diet, which genetically I'm predisposed towards.

609
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe, but even when I was spectacularly fit,

610
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I was still broadly this shape. I'm just a weird

611
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 2>free of genetics. I'm not sure it's actually possible. Whereas

612
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the ripped George Brown, sort of when Guy Adams from

613
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Scribe Pound of the Daily Mail, Yes, got absolutely ripped

614
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the men's fitness, and he said it wasn't that hard,

615
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>which is really annoying.

616
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think I believe him. He told me

617
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>what that required, and it sounded very hard, not as hard.

618
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>As his abs.

619
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 3>No, it sounds like it takes a lot of discipline

620
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 3>to get to that level, and also a removing of

621
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 3>many of life's joys from your life.

622
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, and also, in Guy Adams's case, to be on

623
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the cover of ment healthy had to have a full

624
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>torso wax.

625
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh No, I think in my case that would be

626
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 2>sort of a fourth road. Bridge kind of issue, the

627
00:34:53.320 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>finish waxing one end coming back at the other, so

628
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>back on project X, which is not benefficient. Well, I

629
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>think that's going to be the case. This is not

630
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a instead of Country Slide. Country Slide will continue and

631
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 2>will continue in the same, possibly slightly career steering the

632
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>way that it has already, and but we'll be adding

633
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>on stuff either side of its basically there, with more

634
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>of the voices that you may already know and love

635
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>from other audio projects and some new ones you haven't

636
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>got a chance to know yet. Well, that sounded old professional,

637
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>but I ruined it by saying that.

638
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>I think one should always undercut moments of professionalism with

639
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing.

640
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<v Speaker 2>As you know, Callum's thing about is like offering a

641
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<v Speaker 2>treat to a dog. He's got his teeth, his teeth

642
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<v Speaker 2>are slightly on show, his lips are slightly pulled back.

643
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<v Speaker 2>It's never quite by taking it in the way it

644
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>was meant. That's like us with professionalism. We could get there,

645
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 2>but we're.

646
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<v Speaker 3>Choosing not to.

647
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<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually quite a good point though, because

648
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think one of the things that we

649
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<v Speaker 1>all agree on is that the a level of incompetence

650
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and chaos is sort of part of the part of

651
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the vibe to this. You know, we want to take

652
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 1>how the countryside works. For example, you know, I'm going

653
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk to people who really do know what we'd have,

654
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<v Speaker 1>whatever aspect of the countryside it is that we're talking about.

655
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be talking to proper experts, but there's

656
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<v Speaker 1>going to be a degree of misunderstanding and and attempting

657
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<v Speaker 1>to translate things for the layman. I suppose.

658
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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a there's an issue with every kind

659
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<v Speaker 2>of media, but any kind of niche media and which

660
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>there is a rural media world. Either it ends up

661
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>being restrained by some external forces, whether that's commercial, whether

662
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, who your advertisers are, who your funders are,

663
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.880
<v Speaker 2>those kind of things, or it's the repetition of what

664
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>you hear other people doing, and there's a sort of

665
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 2>a house style that develops within that niche. We want

666
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>to keep going in the way we have done, which

667
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>is maybe reflect more of what we see on the

668
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>ground and the conversations we have on the ground and

669
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 2>those kind of things, rather than what you you know,

670
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>you're tuning in. Let's hear about the countryside. Oh that

671
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 2>sounds nothing like me being on the phone to Nick

672
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<v Speaker 2>or Matthew or whatever.

673
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I think there's the other aspect to it

674
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, which is, you know, if you take farming

675
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>as an example, one, farming is a massive sort of

676
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 1>catch all term for everything from you know, growing a

677
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 1>little bit of stood for Coleman's to vast you know,

678
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>industrial milking operations and this sort of stuff. So it's

679
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of hard to hard to put it all in

680
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>one category in one sense. But also when you're talking

681
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 1>about it, you can either talk about it in terms

682
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 1>for you know, somebody who lives in Clapham. Actually Clapham

683
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 1>was the wrong choice, you know, someone who lives in

684
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, some some suburbs somewhere, and you know, but

685
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the closest they get to say a cow is you know,

686
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the picture of one on the bottle of milk they

687
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>buy from Tesco's. Or there's the sort of expert farmer

688
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.599
<v Speaker 1>audience who are expected to know what all of the

689
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>acronyms and all that sort of thing means. But actually,

690
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can read a sheep farming article and

691
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it might as well be in French, but I do

692
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 1>know my way roughly around cereal farming, because that's what

693
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>we do here. So I guess the idea is to

694
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<v Speaker 1>talk to an engaged countryside audience about things that might

695
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 1>be new to them or that where their level of

696
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>understanding is not so great, and trying to find that

697
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>balance in there, if that makes sense.

698
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also preconceptions that come with all of these

699
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:27.079
<v Speaker 2>things that if you're in dairy farming, to you, you

700
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 2>know what farming is, and you also have a preconception

701
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>about what the public thinks about you, and that might

702
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>come from the comments on social media and under an

703
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>article about farming, or what somebody has replied to your

704
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>post about your farm shop with or something like that.

705
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 2>So there's everyone I think can benefit from seeing what

706
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>other people think about their world, as well as finding

707
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>out how somebody doing something that is basically the different

708
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 2>flavor of what you do, you know that they have

709
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a different preconception differ view of that world entirely.

710
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we can go incredibly granularately with this as well.

711
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 1>But again because you know, dairy farming in East Anglia

712
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty different beast to dairy farming in Wales

713
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just by virtue of the landscape. You know, it comes

714
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 1>with its own set of challenges and ways of doing things.

715
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Within these new shows we're hoping to bring as we

716
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 2>bring in some things that we've already done. So Amy

717
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and I run Wild Food People Wildfoodpeople dot co dot uk.

718
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 2>It's where you can find our foraging courses. Somewhere in July,

719
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 2>all of those public foraging courses are going to move

720
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>over to our social enterprise, to the CIC Community Interest

721
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Company that we set up just about eighteen months or

722
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 2>so ago, so that they can benefit that because they

723
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>all take place in landscapes that we manage under that

724
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 2>social enterprise anyway, So it makes sense. That means that

725
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the Wild Food People podcasts, which has been I think

726
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>the last one we put out was June last year

727
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>with John.

728
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Mailer been on a hiatus, hasn't it.

729
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that will be coming back, and that will be

730
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 2>coming back covering all aspects of wild food, whether that's foraging, hunting, fishing,

731
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>preparation of food, the issues affecting conservation and gathering food

732
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 2>from the wild, as well as some of the outdoor

733
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>cooking and wilder ingredients, even if they are slightly on

734
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 2>the farm side of things as well, which again I

735
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>think you'll be having some input into George with your

736
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 2>setting fire to animals on coals on charcoal.

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00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is one of my principal hobbies at this

738
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>time of year, is setting fire to lumps of wood

739
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and then subsequently using those to set fire to various

740
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>different sizes of bits of animal or fish. Actually, come to.

741
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Take it, explain cooking badly?

742
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, well exactly this is what I do, is

743
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I cook badly. And again, I think this comes back

744
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to what we were talking about with the you know,

745
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the levels of incompetence, because I'm enthusiastic, but I'm not

746
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>an expert at these things. And I think that we'll

747
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>all be learning from one another on this side of things.

748
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I like this idea of continual learning journeys

749
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>because well, anytime you get to the point of thinking, right,

750
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I know everything now, I don't need to learn anymore,

751
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>something will swing in from left field and swipe you

752
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 2>across your across your face with a new lesson, won't it.

753
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that there's this sort of curiosity

754
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>as well. If you take the sort of fire cooking thing,

755
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>live fire cooking thing, you know, you maybe start off

756
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>with something fairly straightforward, like a steak, but it's not

757
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>long if you're like me at any rate, before you're

758
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>starting to think things like I wonder if I can

759
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>asado an entire road deer, And incidentally, I can tell

760
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you the answer is yes, you can, but it's not

761
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous idea.

762
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Don't plan to do many other things that day as well.

763
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it takes a while. It's not the best way

764
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to cook a deer. That's my lesson that I learned

765
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on that one.

766
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 2>But that's to be perfectly honest. The world food people

767
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>element of this is the one I'm most excited about

768
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>because get to expand into so many issues and so

769
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>many areas. Because being able to cook something wild over

770
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.719
<v Speaker 2>and open fire in a place where it is lawful

771
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and appropriate to have that fire, there are so many

772
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.599
<v Speaker 2>steps to get there. It's like this thing about a

773
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>bacon cheeseburger is one of the most technologically advanced things

774
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>in human civilization because of all the stuff you have

775
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to have to be able to make that bread, have

776
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the lettuce there at the same time as bacon, at

777
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the same time as a burger, have cheese that won't

778
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>go off it's this huge technological development. There's this sort

779
00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>of skill development, skill acquisition layer you need to have

780
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to be able to cook over and open fire well

781
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>in the outdoors.

782
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're absolutely right. It's it's new skills all the

783
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 1>way down, isn't it, From acquiring the thing that you're

784
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>going to cook, to preparing it, to making the fire,

785
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 1>managing the fire, you know, different cooking techniques and so

786
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 1>on and so forth. It's almost infinite how deep you

787
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>can go into it.

788
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>It is, and there's there's so so much to learn

789
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 3>with that, and if you're go into smoking and and

790
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 3>all of that side of it as well, and it's

791
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 3>just there's always that area where chemistry starts overlapping with

792
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 3>it as well, and it's whether it's more art or science.

793
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yes, fascinating.

794
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's another really good point, which is that

795
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be lots of opportunities for bodgery in this,

796
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>particularly in the on the cooking side of things, because

797
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>another thing that I'm quite a fan of is overly

798
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>elaborate cooking apparatus. You know, I've always wanted a cold

799
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>smoker that's made out of you know, a bit of

800
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 1>an old hoover and a metal shoe box and a

801
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what a metal shoe box is,

802
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know that sort of thing.

803
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 2>When I first met you, one of the first things

804
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you asked me was, have you ever made a water

805
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>wheel powered spit to go over a fire?

806
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Exactly that kind of thing, you know. Is it necessary?

807
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 3>No?

808
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Does it really achieve anything? Very much? Also no? Will

809
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it work? Probably not? I think the fun is in

810
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the trying.

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00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>We also need somewhere with running water where we can

812
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 2>light the fire. Yes, summer, maybe not, this is an

813
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>autumn project. Maybe yes.

814
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I suppose that if we do the cookery in

815
00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the wetter months, it reduces the probability of us setting

816
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 1>vide to the landscape as well, which is probably quite

817
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a good message to put out.

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00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, if our first if our first press release

819
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<v Speaker 2>is sorry, we've set far out half of Hampshire.

820
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<v Speaker 1>I think episode one of Wild Food People disposable barbecue

821
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the North Pennines on a grouse more.

822
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Ycally locally sourced poultry.

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00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing. Well, they used to do the race,

824
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't they to visit the savoy who used trying to

825
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>get the first grouse of the season, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they still do that. You know, I think

827
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you can. You could. There's some places that sort of

828
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 1>pride themselves on being able to serve you grouse on

829
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the twelfth in London.

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00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 2>So as red grouse are the game bird that is

831
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 2>wild really, you know, it's the most shot in the

832
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 2>UK that is has to be a wild source. You

833
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>could shorten that chain quite substantially by having a disposable

834
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 2>barbecue on the edge of the grouse bird. So you

835
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>shoot a grouse, the first grouse of the season, try

836
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and nail it onto the barbecue straight away.

837
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, have your loaders stand there with a

838
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.159
<v Speaker 1>long polled landing net.

839
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Or a skill or a GAF or something. He's sort

840
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 2>of trying to drag it up the ball and towards you.

841
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Why is it you've not had me back on my

842
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:28.280
<v Speaker 2>guns on Pegs podcast, So I think that's a good

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00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.519
<v Speaker 2>place to leave the main show for now. But as

844
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 2>a summary, we want your suggestions for things that will

845
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>be on the game fare Bingo CUD and then they'll

846
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<v Speaker 2>be available for purchase prior to the game fare, with

847
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<v Speaker 2>all proceeds going to the Game of Wildlife Conservancy. Trust.

848
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it Conservation Trust and they're not Conservancy.

849
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 1>It is the Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust.

850
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, hasn't been Conservancy Trust for since about nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>four or something ninety something. I don't know, I should know,

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<v Speaker 2>but g WCT you know what they do. Wonderful things

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<v Speaker 2>are great partridges. Then we also have our Project X,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be landing hopefully sometime just after the Game

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<v Speaker 2>Fair in thereabouts, which will feature all this, well the

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<v Speaker 2>start of all this wonderful new content and a new look,

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<v Speaker 2>but in country Slide and the voices you love won't

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<v Speaker 2>be going anywhere. How you feel about that is down

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<v Speaker 2>to you. That might be a relief, it might just

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<v Speaker 2>be sort of a portent of doom coming well just

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life really, because we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. Have I missed anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's everything. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. So onto the after show. Goodbye everyone, Bye bye,