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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, same time, same place, every single Tuesday.

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Andrew and Bobby CFL betting Blueprint. We are here to

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try and find the best number possible and guide you

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guys in the right direction to make money in the CFL.

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I'm happy to be off a good week. I said

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it was bounce back week, and it's nice when you

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can put something out there in the universe and end

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up having success with it. One win away from a

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perfect weekend, ten point lead a few minutes to go

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in the game and BC does not win that game.

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That was tough. But shout out to everybody that roll

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with me on that bounce back weekend three in one,

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including a Monshaw Alouette money line winner. That's always nice. Bobby,

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I think you were on the owls. You were on

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the outs with me. We had a good weekend celebrating man.

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It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was about to congratulate you on your

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perfect week. Because Lions didn't settle for stupid field goals.

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They always went for it on third down. They knew

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they had believe Mitchell against him, don't want to give

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him a short field for easy scores. But no, they

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did the exact opposite. They kicked every field goal they could,

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including one from I think the six yard line, and

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gave beulivi I Mitchell that he was a first down

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away from canceling out that field goal every time. So

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Lions did it to themselves. Uh, no change with the

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head coach of the Lions. He's just as bad as

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Rick Campbell was. And honestly, Rick Campbell got a rod

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deal last year. The team did everything right. He did

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everything right. Rourke did Rokshire to stay in the NFL

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maybe and VA did everything right, and they had had

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to blame somebody. They blamed Rick Campbell And now he's

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a I don't know, maybe he's ten ten bad bone

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had decisions away from being head coach in Ottawa again.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, speaking of Rick Campbell, I was I was

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calling Buck Pierce Rick Campbell on Twitter again, all worked up,

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and I got.

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Speaker 2: You might as well have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have just pretended it was a joke.

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It would have looked a lot better on me. But yeah,

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I mean, I'll be straight. Like you know, Bobby, you've

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definitely like your opinions have definitely rubbed off on me

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with it. But I've I've you know, you just notice

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it more now. And like I'm watching it with the

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buddy and he doesn't really bet too much CFL, but

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like he's watching with me, he's like, all right, I'll

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get behind it, and you know, he's like, yeah, looking

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pretty good so far. But then, like from someone that

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doesn't even follow the CFL that much, he was looking

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at me and he's like, dude, like Hamilton is scoring

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every possession, why the hell are we going to drive

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the whole field and set up for a field goal.

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It's a little bit puzzling, but at the end of

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the day, the defensive coordinator I wouldn't be impressed either

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with some of the I mean, how many times was

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Hamilton gonna go underneath, underneath, underneath, underneath and just drive

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the field? So there's a lot of different blame you

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can give. And also, I don't know if you saw

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the quote that Nate roorkeead I'm not having any of

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this stuff quote, but he pretty much just said I

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thought I had a free play, I thought Hamilton was

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off side, so I pretty much just threw it to

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a ghost and nothing happened there. The moral of the

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story is they needed to kill Clock and he went

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to and out, Bobby, that's the moral of the story.

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Speaker 2: He was pass it anyway, right, he was passing anyway,

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so it was still bad play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either way. Bounce back weekend. I was super excited.

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You're on a huge run, right, what's the run.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like twelve, twelve and three on thirteen

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games or something. I try to double end a few.

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Those were one or two of those losses, so I

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think There's only been one or two games where I've

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actually lost in the last few weeks. But yeah, it

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can all fall apart at any moment, right, I think

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I had to think I was the worst better CFL

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better in the world just the week before.

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Speaker 1: So all right, well we'll get to the numbers here.

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Let's bring them up. Got to shout out odds Logic

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And right now we see it lighting up like a

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Christmas tree. A little bit here, Bobby well, we're live

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on the show this week. In week nine, Calgary the

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Stampeders at the Red Blacks Toronto, the Argos at the

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Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Saturday night doubleheader Tiecats at Elks, Ryders

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at Montreal Alouette. Let's just go down the line here.

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Let's not waste any time. Let's go down the line here.

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Your thoughts on the opening number. We'll call it the

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consensus opening number for Calgary and Ottawa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is an interesting number and it could

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move a good amount here, like Vernon Adams, so full

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the scoldure. I put a little bit on Calgary four

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and a half on the look ahead, and few things happened.

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Vernon Adams got taken out of the game. He's on

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the sidelines in tears. You're thinking this is a major injury. Well,

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day one of practice he's practicing with the ones. But

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day two he didn't. He didn't participate. So we're waiting

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to hear a report from day three. Here. The CFL

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and the media is still running thinking that Vernon Adams

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is going to start for sure this week because they

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didn't look at day two practice reports. But day three

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is the important one. So we got we're waiting on that.

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There's a couple of guys in Calgary who are very tall,

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very more tolerable than than the previous Beat reporters to follow,

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So I enjoy following them, getting updates from practice from them.

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And if Vernon Adams isn't in, like this is a

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dream for Ottawa, right like PJ Walker Walker Calgary Stampeder

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didn't didn't show anything to us last week when he

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went in, So you've you've got a very questionable quarterback

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if it's not Va. And another reason why Ottawa is

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is dreaming here is because for the second week in

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a row, you've got a quarterback who looked like they

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got rocked, got concussed, and they're back to practice day one,

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not limited, nothing like that. Drew Brown has been full

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practice for the last two days. So the panic in Ottawa,

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they well should always be panic in Ottawa. But Drew

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a lot better than dust and crumb. They're getting Peter

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Godber back, Pello Host is still injured and starts Ala

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is still out as well. Like that O line is

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not in good shape, but they're slowly getting healthier. And

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again it's a very long injury report for Ottawa, but

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it's the best formatted in the league, so I love

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it's very easy to breeze through. So that's the one

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good thing in Ottawa. In addition to their starting quarterback

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being back, O line getting healthier, injury report still looks

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great no matter how many players are on it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you always say it's tough to back Ottawa at

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any time. Probably looking towards that direction. If I was

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to play this game, I want to see where that

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number goes. Similar to the Elks. Usually on leading up

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to it we see some wonky numbers, but then on

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actual game day people are going against them. So we'll

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see what happens with this Red Blacks team. Funny enough,

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they haven't been very good at home this year, Bobby,

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so we'll see what they can do at home. I

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mean not even talking yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wins last year, yeah big.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you Calgary and now officially zero to two.

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Ats as a favorite five and oh ats as an underdog.

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So last week when I was talking about this line

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with MBT against the Stamps, I know I was saying, hey, look,

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football players and the teams itself might not care about what,

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you know, what the line actually is. They're covering a line,

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but at the end of the day, we can talk

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about it and dissect how a team might be playing

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because it's different for us to ask a team to

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hang around or win the game than it is for

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them to win by a certain amount of points. That's

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kind of what I see here. Calgary's had a great season,

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They've been phenomenal, They've put up points, but once again,

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they're being asked to win by not just a couple

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by you know, a handful of points here, and if

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we have injury concerns, it could be a good spot

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for the Red Blacks to take them, so we'll see

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what happens. Also, I think that the Red Blacks are

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slow starters, so you know, if you don't want to

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get in on the Red Blacks in the start of

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the game, you might be able to get them in

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the second half as well. I might look at a

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team total, the team has offense, but their defense is

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still pretty brutal. We'll see what ends up happening with

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that one. But if this game can get up to

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even higher, because you know what people are gonna be

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on Calgary. So we'll see what ends up happening with

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that one. But right now DraftKings four and a half

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fan Duel four and a half, consensus number four and

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a half in that one. I'm curious that your thoughts

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here on the Argos Bombers game. According to according to

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odds Logic page, the consensus opener we have is six,

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but then it's immediately went to six and a half.

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Pretty much at all locations here, people can say, hey,

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Winnipeg does not look like the same team right now,

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end of the day. They've played Calgary in two of

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their last three games. Sure, their defense gave up some

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points recently, but are you ready to give up on them?

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Speaker 2: I'm a lot more ready to give up on him

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than last year, right when they started pretty badly, even

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worse than they have this year. So there's a lot

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more questions in Winnipeg. I've downgraded Kolaros to like a

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kind of a mid tier quarterback for the like. There's

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a clear good level of starting quarterbacks in the CFL,

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and Klaros he hasn't really shown that he's there anymore.

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He can always bounce back. I don't want to be

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Max Kellerman calling Brady Brady toast right before he wins two,

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two or three more Super Bowls. But it just seems

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like Nick Arbuckle, Uh just has something on these these bombers,

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these three and oh when his last three starts three

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and oh against the spread as well. I'm not gonna

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go and join everybody else by saying Nick Arbuckle is

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all of a sudden good. Uh. That's for the people

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that can afford to be wrong when they write their stupid,

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stupid headlines. But don't get cocky with Nick Arbuckle. I've

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gotten cocky with him in the past and got torched.

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It comes to mind when when I said, hey, you

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got you got a Nick Garbuckle on the bench and

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you're starting Caleb Evans for the seventh loss in a

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row here, Uh, Nick Arbuckle went in and looked even

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worse than Caleb Evans, So, uh, you got to kind

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of proceed with caution with Arbuckle. He is what he is.

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He's a decent backup quarterback. He's one of the best

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backup quarterbacks. Not being said like that's not really the

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focus here. This is a pretty big number and and

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it all depends on Winnipeg's practice and Winnipeg canceled their

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practice today, So I have no onion here. If Kolaros

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is out there tomorrow, I'll take that six and a half.

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until it goes Probably it'll probably balloon up to seven

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or eight. I'll be taking that. I don't think Toronto's

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aside on this one. Even with Streveler, I'd still prefer

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to take them, especially if, sorry, it wouldn't balloon up

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it balloon, it'd shrinked down, go down to like a

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field goal or something. So I'll grab that Straveler number

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at a field goal, and I'll take Kolaros if it's

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six and a half and he's out there tomorrow. So

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I think Winnipeg's aside. Regardless, Toronto is overvalued here. Winnipeg

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is worse than everybody thought they'd be, but they're not

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as worse as everybody thinks they are right now.

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Speaker 1: I think if we look on game day CFL, you know,

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the public, the people that just love to bet the

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games but aren't really looking too much into it, Toronto

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will probably be the favorite team of the favorite dog

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of CFL betters and public dogs. We all know have

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flees and you don't want to be on those ones

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very much. And the people that are popular, you know,

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looking at this team, and it's also the recency bias,

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So I don't know. I always say that I keep

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my dog nice and watched nice and clean and groom.

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Those public dogs have lead.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: I think the r goes right now. You know. The

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thing is, sure they've had some tough games recently, but

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let's not forget that's the same team that gave up

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fifty one against the tie Cats. They've played a soft

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Red Blacks team, but they gave up thirty nine against

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the Riders twenty nine against the Stamps. Like, this is

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still a defense that we can't trust. I'm seeing twenty

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nine and a half as the Winnipeg team total. That's

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kind of like that clear number to get us to thirty.

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For some reason, I usually like playing it more when

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it's a wonky number because it's more almost like they're

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trying to bait you into doing it. But I'm gonna

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take it. Twenty nine and a half over, let's get

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Winnipeg to thirty. And as of right now, the defense

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this is what let them down last week. You're sure

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the offense wasn't looking great, But I think this team

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gets a week of practice to get back on track.

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I think they get to thirty points, Bobby, And if

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the point spread is six six and a half, I

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see no reason why they can't get to thirty points.

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Speaker 2: Any disagreements, Yeah, if Chris Streveler walks out of the tunnel,

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I don't think how are they getting a thirty unless

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the defense scores two touchdowns. That's that's the only That's

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the only thing I'd be worried about there is if

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you got Straveler coming out instead of Claros.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll hold off on the team total for now.

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We'll see. Maybe we end up getting the decent number

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here with twenty nine and a half. I still think

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this team has some talent, all right, keeping things moving along,

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Hamilton and Edmonton kind of funny enough, like it's pretty

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much four and a half most spots, but we are

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seeing like we did see at DraftKings what three and

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a half four back up to four and a half

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minus one oh five most spots here. The Elks treated

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us well last week. I think that we you know,

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we can probably both agree what we both know what

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a back door cover is. But at the end of

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the day, when you take a team plus nine and

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a half, you're kind of expecting a backdoor cover to

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a certain degree. And when you look at Cody Fajardo

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and what he was able to do, he was perfect,

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you know, putting up plus three, three hundred plus yards,

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two touchdowns, no interceptions. He's in his own end zone

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and he throws like a forty five yard ball, like

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over someone's shoulder, perfect pass. Well, look, we're gonna save

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the tray Ford hate. But we saw things we weren't

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seeing with Ford. And at the end of the day,

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we didn't see a win from Fajardo. We saw a

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point spread cover. And I think this line again is

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kind of displaying what we'd see if Trey Ford was

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the quarterback. I think four and a half, I'll take it.

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Hamilton's a good team. Hamilton's a defense still that I

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think teams can put points up on. I still think

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I had the right side last week. Maybe I was wrong,

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but a bunch of turnovers for Hamilton down ten with

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three minutes to go, and they win the game. Second game,

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on the West Coast for them. I want to jump

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in here and I want to take Edmonton at the

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plus four and a half number. The only thing I'm

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gonna say before I go to you, Bob, because I

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saw that you tweeted this out and you know it

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just as well as I do. This point spread range

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as an underdog. This is money line sprinkling range as well.

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And I hate asking the Edmonton Elex to win a game.

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I don't mind asking to cover, but usually when you

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take four and a half, you kind of have to.

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Someone once told me, if you're taking a team in

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the NFL, or CFL, or any football league under five

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and a half, you have to expect there's a partial,

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partial chance they might win the game. And that's kind

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of where I'm a little worried. But I like them

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at four and a half here as dogs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, we finally got to see Fajardo out there,

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and what happened is everybody noticed how bad the rest

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of the team was because for the first time all season,

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you couldn't blame every play on the quarterback not being

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able to get anything done. Plays actually got to develop.

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You got to see how bad the old line actually was.

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You got to see how many players didn't know what

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no yards is. The coach didn't tell him about that,

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I guess I know Chris Jones didn't tell somebody about

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a rouge one game and he was shit canned a

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few games later. So you got a coach who's challenging

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the stupidest plays. Why is he challenging like a fumble

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out of bounds where it clearly was a quick out

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of the guy's hands out of bounds, but not challenging

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when Curly Gettons Junior says he's arguing at the ref

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saying he caught the ball would have got them out

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of their own end zone. So like, it's a mess

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everywhere on that team. And just having a decent quarterback.

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I don't insult Fajardo by calling him decent, but having

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a good quarterback actually showed how bad the rest of

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the team actually is. And even after that, you got

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to downgrade Edmonton. How much can you downgrade this team?

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This isn't a Taylor Cornelius Edmonton team, but like it's

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clearly the worst team in the league on paper, Ottawa

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has more injuries. I'd say Ottawa is worse as is

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right now in power rankings, but the worst team in

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the league on paper, but still like Hamilton isn't what

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the record says they are, right like they're they're a

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middle of the range team. They're a BC. And you

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saw that that game could have gone either way. It

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probably should have gone against Hamilton if it played out

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the way, if it played out with like some pip

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squeaks on the sidelines telling the coaches what to do.

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But four o'clock or four o'clock, four and a half

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is too much to be taking at home against a

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middle of the range team in the league, right, So

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I like the four and a half. It moved a

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little bit there and then you're like, your wait till

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it bounces back. Well that's how serious they take my action.

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They bounced it back to four and a half like

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twenty minutes later. So uh yeah, I like that one.

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That one is the uh that one really jumps out.

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And I think the money line is like one seventy

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five right now you have to you have to, uh,

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you have to sprinkle a bit on that too, So

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full unit there and maybe a quarter unit on the

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money on the money line, and we're we're going to

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be supporting the Elks again.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, a lot of people probably aren't.

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So you know, when you're looking at an alex Bet,

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you're probably on an island, and that's kind of a

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good thing you want to be sometimes as a sports

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better be on an island or be that contrarian. I

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think it's just different with this team with a different

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quarterback behind center, that's for sure. So when we look

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at it, we look at Hamilton. I think they got

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Montreal in the first game with MBT behind center. They

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head back to back games against the Red Blocks, and

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then before that they had fifty one points against the Argos.

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This is a pretty good West in conference. Edmonton's had

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to play most of the mostly the West. I believe

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BC twice. I believe If I'm wrong, Bobby, I think

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they played BC twice. So I'm not gonna sit here

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and say Edmonton's not as bad as they've looked. But

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I am gonna sit here and say Hamilton isn't as

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good as they've looked. So we'll take plus four and

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a half there. This is the one Bobby, I don't

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have as much on yet. We're obviously waiting for some

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information as well on this one. For different positions. Saskatchewan Montreal.

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This one's kind of an interesting travel one from what

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I've seen. I think three of the last four games

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for sask have been at home for them, Montreal back

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at home here this week. Exciting. When do you have

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anything here? I'm kind of leaning towards under in this one,

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under forty nine and a half. I haven't really been

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playing full game total lately.

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Speaker 2: Like I think the wrong team's favored here. Saskatchewan's a

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lot more beat up than people realize. You could take

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their injury report and like, I keep going back to these,

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but this is what makes a different have a couple

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points every week. Saskatchewan's injury report might be the best

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offensive line in the league. They've they've they've had the

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worst luck there ever since Drake put that that chain

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on with the Riders logo, it's been injury after injury.

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Wide receiver still banged up, but they they're very good

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at like just finding these guys to fill the spot,

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so that's not as much of a concern. But I

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think what they should be worried about is that MBT

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showed that he's not as bad as people were saying.

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Any Well, he had two pretty rough games to return

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to a starting job, and and then this past week

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he played pretty decent, right he was. They were running

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away with that that game, if I remember correctly. So

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I haven't taken a side yet, even though I like

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I should. It's two and a half, but it's two

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and a half with juice, So I think there's potential

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for a three popping up here. Saskatchewan's a very public team,

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and hey, if it goes the other way, I'm okay

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with the two. I'm okay with Montreal getting two points

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at home as well. So there's a couple of interesting

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like home dogs here that I don't think should be

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should be dogs. So uh, I'm just gonna see which

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way this goes.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: In terms of the line, like the Saskatchewan team, I

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wouldn't trust that past defense to go under anywhere, right,

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So yeah they were. They were getting to the quarterback

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pretty good in in against Edmonton. But I don't know

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if if the Montreal line is as bad. Right, So,

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if Montreal can protect Mbt, that kind of neutralizes the Riders.

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It's just a matter of can Mbt air it out

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like he like he like he was doing last year

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in Edmonton? Before he got benched for the wrong guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you look at Saskatchewan like for them,

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like a lot of quotes that out of Trevor Harris,

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different players about how they ended last game. Obviously they

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got the win, but they weren't happy with that second

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half effort against the Elks by the end of the day.

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Like I said, three to the last four games I

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believe at home for Sketchwan, have they faced any adversity

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yet besides injuries like this team looks like they've had,

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Like you know, there's been no typical CFL betting schedule

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flat spots for them, and now they've got to play

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a team that you know, people can't you can't forget

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how good this Dalouett's team is. You know, they're a

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good team, and we saw it last week getting six

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and a half points against the Stampeders and winning outright.

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This is a good team. They're back at home, like

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you said, only a couple of points there, so we'll

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see lean towards the under for me, but I do

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lean towards the home squad as well. We'll see where

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that number ends up going. Guys, makes you follow Bobby

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at Misissuri, Jack myself at mcguinnis Picks. Of course, as

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kinds of great alerts, injury information, you can track all

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kinds of books that you're currently using or want to

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know about. Well, you are looking for the best number possible,

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especially in the CFL. I mean you might not think

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of a CFL. You want to have a bunch of

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different websites. Guys, at least a couple that you're betting with,

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that's for sure. Any closing thoughts, Bob before we wrap

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it up.

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Speaker 2: No, if you're a Kate bretton, come on down to

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Daniel's aalehouse. We got were the official bar of Red

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Blocks fans and we'll have the game on Thursday night.

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And I've been here a week. We're already out of

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quarters late, so I'll make sure that's that's refilled for

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game time on Thursday. So I know there's at least

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one Kate Breton Red Blacks fan and they gave me

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a jersey. I gotta support them, especially if I'm going

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to be on them, depending on this injury news.

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Speaker 1: So come on, I see you in a few weeks,

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two or three weeks. I'm going to see you, all right.

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Coming over to Daniels, Okay, I might have to get

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a d D if we're spending it. We're having pounding

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back some corps lights and we're gonna have to get in.

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I'm gonna see what kind of hard liquer collection you've

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got back there, so we'll test the bar. We'll see

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what you've got at Daniels. But looking forward to week nine, guys,

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both of us had a really good Week eight. You

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guys can get all my best bets of course wagertalk

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picks on Twitter, but my favorite plays are at the website.

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Elks was a five percent play. We don't like to

474
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lose those ones. I believe I lost one before that.

475
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Bounce back in a big way. And I'll tell you what.

476
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That Winnipeg loss two weeks ago was brutal. We didn't hesitate.

477
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We came back with a nice underdog one here. So

478
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you gotta come back strong, all right, Thanks for watching, guys.

479
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Hit the like button comment who you are betting and

480
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more than you guys know. Guys, the like button really

481
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really does help us out. Thanks for watching. We'll see

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you next time. Yeah,