Speaker 1: What's up, guys, same time, same place, every single Tuesday.
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I'm happy to be off a good week. I said
it was bounce back week, and it's nice when you
can put something out there in the universe and end
up having success with it. One win away from a
perfect weekend, ten point lead a few minutes to go
in the game and BC does not win that game.
That was tough. But shout out to everybody that roll
with me on that bounce back weekend three in one,
including a Monshaw Alouette money line winner. That's always nice. Bobby,
I think you were on the owls. You were on
the outs with me. We had a good weekend celebrating man.
It was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was about to congratulate you on your
perfect week. Because Lions didn't settle for stupid field goals.
They always went for it on third down. They knew
they had believe Mitchell against him, don't want to give
him a short field for easy scores. But no, they
did the exact opposite. They kicked every field goal they could,
including one from I think the six yard line, and
gave beulivi I Mitchell that he was a first down
away from canceling out that field goal every time. So
Lions did it to themselves. Uh, no change with the
head coach of the Lions. He's just as bad as
Rick Campbell was. And honestly, Rick Campbell got a rod
deal last year. The team did everything right. He did
everything right. Rourke did Rokshire to stay in the NFL
maybe and VA did everything right, and they had had
to blame somebody. They blamed Rick Campbell And now he's
a I don't know, maybe he's ten ten bad bone
had decisions away from being head coach in Ottawa again.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, speaking of Rick Campbell, I was I was
calling Buck Pierce Rick Campbell on Twitter again, all worked up,
and I got.
Speaker 2: You might as well have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have just pretended it was a joke.
It would have looked a lot better on me. But yeah,
I mean, I'll be straight. Like you know, Bobby, you've
definitely like your opinions have definitely rubbed off on me
with it. But I've I've you know, you just notice
it more now. And like I'm watching it with the
buddy and he doesn't really bet too much CFL, but
like he's watching with me, he's like, all right, I'll
get behind it, and you know, he's like, yeah, looking
pretty good so far. But then, like from someone that
doesn't even follow the CFL that much, he was looking
at me and he's like, dude, like Hamilton is scoring
every possession, why the hell are we going to drive
the whole field and set up for a field goal.
It's a little bit puzzling, but at the end of
the day, the defensive coordinator I wouldn't be impressed either
with some of the I mean, how many times was
Hamilton gonna go underneath, underneath, underneath, underneath and just drive
the field? So there's a lot of different blame you
can give. And also, I don't know if you saw
the quote that Nate roorkeead I'm not having any of
this stuff quote, but he pretty much just said I
thought I had a free play, I thought Hamilton was
off side, so I pretty much just threw it to
a ghost and nothing happened there. The moral of the
story is they needed to kill Clock and he went
to and out, Bobby, that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 2: He was pass it anyway, right, he was passing anyway,
so it was still bad play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way. Bounce back weekend. I was super excited.
You're on a huge run, right, what's the run.
Speaker 2: I think it's like twelve, twelve and three on thirteen
games or something. I try to double end a few.
Those were one or two of those losses, so I
think There's only been one or two games where I've
actually lost in the last few weeks. But yeah, it
can all fall apart at any moment, right, I think
I had to think I was the worst better CFL
better in the world just the week before.
Speaker 1: So all right, well we'll get to the numbers here.
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And right now we see it lighting up like a
Christmas tree. A little bit here, Bobby well, we're live
on the show this week. In week nine, Calgary the
Stampeders at the Red Blacks Toronto, the Argos at the
Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Saturday night doubleheader Tiecats at Elks, Ryders
at Montreal Alouette. Let's just go down the line here.
Let's not waste any time. Let's go down the line here.
Your thoughts on the opening number. We'll call it the
consensus opening number for Calgary and Ottawa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is an interesting number and it could
move a good amount here, like Vernon Adams, so full
the scoldure. I put a little bit on Calgary four
and a half on the look ahead, and few things happened.
Vernon Adams got taken out of the game. He's on
the sidelines in tears. You're thinking this is a major injury. Well,
day one of practice he's practicing with the ones. But
day two he didn't. He didn't participate. So we're waiting
to hear a report from day three. Here. The CFL
and the media is still running thinking that Vernon Adams
is going to start for sure this week because they
didn't look at day two practice reports. But day three
is the important one. So we got we're waiting on that.
There's a couple of guys in Calgary who are very tall,
very more tolerable than than the previous Beat reporters to follow,
So I enjoy following them, getting updates from practice from them.
And if Vernon Adams isn't in, like this is a
dream for Ottawa, right like PJ Walker Walker Calgary Stampeder
didn't didn't show anything to us last week when he
went in, So you've you've got a very questionable quarterback
if it's not Va. And another reason why Ottawa is
is dreaming here is because for the second week in
a row, you've got a quarterback who looked like they
got rocked, got concussed, and they're back to practice day one,
not limited, nothing like that. Drew Brown has been full
practice for the last two days. So the panic in Ottawa,
they well should always be panic in Ottawa. But Drew
Brown at behind is behind quarter behind center is is
a lot better than dust and crumb. They're getting Peter
Godber back, Pello Host is still injured and starts Ala
is still out as well. Like that O line is
not in good shape, but they're slowly getting healthier. And
again it's a very long injury report for Ottawa, but
it's the best formatted in the league, so I love
it's very easy to breeze through. So that's the one
good thing in Ottawa. In addition to their starting quarterback
being back, O line getting healthier, injury report still looks
great no matter how many players are on it.
Speaker 1: Hey, you always say it's tough to back Ottawa at
any time. Probably looking towards that direction. If I was
to play this game, I want to see where that
number goes. Similar to the Elks. Usually on leading up
to it we see some wonky numbers, but then on
actual game day people are going against them. So we'll
see what happens with this Red Blacks team. Funny enough,
they haven't been very good at home this year, Bobby,
so we'll see what they can do at home. I
mean not even talking yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wins last year, yeah big.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you Calgary and now officially zero to two.
Ats as a favorite five and oh ats as an underdog.
So last week when I was talking about this line
with MBT against the Stamps, I know I was saying, hey, look,
football players and the teams itself might not care about what,
you know, what the line actually is. They're covering a line,
but at the end of the day, we can talk
about it and dissect how a team might be playing
because it's different for us to ask a team to
hang around or win the game than it is for
them to win by a certain amount of points. That's
kind of what I see here. Calgary's had a great season,
They've been phenomenal, They've put up points, but once again,
they're being asked to win by not just a couple
by you know, a handful of points here, and if
we have injury concerns, it could be a good spot
for the Red Blacks to take them, so we'll see
what happens. Also, I think that the Red Blacks are
slow starters, so you know, if you don't want to
get in on the Red Blacks in the start of
the game, you might be able to get them in
the second half as well. I might look at a
team total, the team has offense, but their defense is
still pretty brutal. We'll see what ends up happening with
that one. But if this game can get up to
even higher, because you know what people are gonna be
on Calgary. So we'll see what ends up happening with
that one. But right now DraftKings four and a half
fan Duel four and a half, consensus number four and
a half in that one. I'm curious that your thoughts
here on the Argos Bombers game. According to according to
odds Logic page, the consensus opener we have is six,
but then it's immediately went to six and a half.
Pretty much at all locations here, people can say, hey,
Winnipeg does not look like the same team right now,
end of the day. They've played Calgary in two of
their last three games. Sure, their defense gave up some
points recently, but are you ready to give up on them?
Speaker 2: I'm a lot more ready to give up on him
than last year, right when they started pretty badly, even
worse than they have this year. So there's a lot
more questions in Winnipeg. I've downgraded Kolaros to like a
kind of a mid tier quarterback for the like. There's
a clear good level of starting quarterbacks in the CFL,
and Klaros he hasn't really shown that he's there anymore.
He can always bounce back. I don't want to be
Max Kellerman calling Brady Brady toast right before he wins two,
two or three more Super Bowls. But it just seems
like Nick Arbuckle, Uh just has something on these these bombers,
these three and oh when his last three starts three
and oh against the spread as well. I'm not gonna
go and join everybody else by saying Nick Arbuckle is
all of a sudden good. Uh. That's for the people
that can afford to be wrong when they write their stupid,
stupid headlines. But don't get cocky with Nick Arbuckle. I've
gotten cocky with him in the past and got torched.
It comes to mind when when I said, hey, you
got you got a Nick Garbuckle on the bench and
you're starting Caleb Evans for the seventh loss in a
row here, Uh, Nick Arbuckle went in and looked even
worse than Caleb Evans, So, uh, you got to kind
of proceed with caution with Arbuckle. He is what he is.
He's a decent backup quarterback. He's one of the best
backup quarterbacks. Not being said like that's not really the
focus here. This is a pretty big number and and
it all depends on Winnipeg's practice and Winnipeg canceled their
practice today, So I have no onion here. If Kolaros
is out there tomorrow, I'll take that six and a half.
If s Traveler is out there tomorrow, I'm gonna wait
until it goes Probably it'll probably balloon up to seven
or eight. I'll be taking that. I don't think Toronto's
aside on this one. Even with Streveler, I'd still prefer
to take them, especially if, sorry, it wouldn't balloon up
it balloon, it'd shrinked down, go down to like a
field goal or something. So I'll grab that Straveler number
at a field goal, and I'll take Kolaros if it's
six and a half and he's out there tomorrow. So
I think Winnipeg's aside. Regardless, Toronto is overvalued here. Winnipeg
is worse than everybody thought they'd be, but they're not
as worse as everybody thinks they are right now.
Speaker 1: I think if we look on game day CFL, you know,
the public, the people that just love to bet the
games but aren't really looking too much into it, Toronto
will probably be the favorite team of the favorite dog
of CFL betters and public dogs. We all know have
flees and you don't want to be on those ones
very much. And the people that are popular, you know,
looking at this team, and it's also the recency bias,
So I don't know. I always say that I keep
my dog nice and watched nice and clean and groom.
Those public dogs have lead.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: I think the r goes right now. You know. The
thing is, sure they've had some tough games recently, but
let's not forget that's the same team that gave up
fifty one against the tie Cats. They've played a soft
Red Blacks team, but they gave up thirty nine against
the Riders twenty nine against the Stamps. Like, this is
still a defense that we can't trust. I'm seeing twenty
nine and a half as the Winnipeg team total. That's
kind of like that clear number to get us to thirty.
For some reason, I usually like playing it more when
it's a wonky number because it's more almost like they're
trying to bait you into doing it. But I'm gonna
take it. Twenty nine and a half over, let's get
Winnipeg to thirty. And as of right now, the defense
this is what let them down last week. You're sure
the offense wasn't looking great, But I think this team
gets a week of practice to get back on track.
I think they get to thirty points, Bobby, And if
the point spread is six six and a half, I
see no reason why they can't get to thirty points.
Speaker 2: Any disagreements, Yeah, if Chris Streveler walks out of the tunnel,
I don't think how are they getting a thirty unless
the defense scores two touchdowns. That's that's the only That's
the only thing I'd be worried about there is if
you got Straveler coming out instead of Claros.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll hold off on the team total for now.
We'll see. Maybe we end up getting the decent number
here with twenty nine and a half. I still think
this team has some talent, all right, keeping things moving along,
We'll look at the next one here down the line.
Hamilton and Edmonton kind of funny enough, like it's pretty
much four and a half most spots, but we are
seeing like we did see at DraftKings what three and
a half four back up to four and a half
minus one oh five most spots here. The Elks treated
us well last week. I think that we you know,
we can probably both agree what we both know what
a back door cover is. But at the end of
the day, when you take a team plus nine and
a half, you're kind of expecting a backdoor cover to
a certain degree. And when you look at Cody Fajardo
and what he was able to do, he was perfect,
you know, putting up plus three, three hundred plus yards,
two touchdowns, no interceptions. He's in his own end zone
and he throws like a forty five yard ball, like
over someone's shoulder, perfect pass. Well, look, we're gonna save
the tray Ford hate. But we saw things we weren't
seeing with Ford. And at the end of the day,
we didn't see a win from Fajardo. We saw a
point spread cover. And I think this line again is
kind of displaying what we'd see if Trey Ford was
the quarterback. I think four and a half, I'll take it.
Hamilton's a good team. Hamilton's a defense still that I
think teams can put points up on. I still think
I had the right side last week. Maybe I was wrong,
but a bunch of turnovers for Hamilton down ten with
three minutes to go, and they win the game. Second game,
on the West Coast for them. I want to jump
in here and I want to take Edmonton at the
plus four and a half number. The only thing I'm
gonna say before I go to you, Bob, because I
saw that you tweeted this out and you know it
just as well as I do. This point spread range
as an underdog. This is money line sprinkling range as well.
And I hate asking the Edmonton Elex to win a game.
I don't mind asking to cover, but usually when you
take four and a half, you kind of have to.
Someone once told me, if you're taking a team in
the NFL, or CFL, or any football league under five
and a half, you have to expect there's a partial,
partial chance they might win the game. And that's kind
of where I'm a little worried. But I like them
at four and a half here as dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, we finally got to see Fajardo out there,
and what happened is everybody noticed how bad the rest
of the team was because for the first time all season,
you couldn't blame every play on the quarterback not being
able to get anything done. Plays actually got to develop.
You got to see how bad the old line actually was.
You got to see how many players didn't know what
no yards is. The coach didn't tell him about that,
I guess I know Chris Jones didn't tell somebody about
a rouge one game and he was shit canned a
few games later. So you got a coach who's challenging
the stupidest plays. Why is he challenging like a fumble
out of bounds where it clearly was a quick out
of the guy's hands out of bounds, but not challenging
when Curly Gettons Junior says he's arguing at the ref
saying he caught the ball would have got them out
of their own end zone. So like, it's a mess
everywhere on that team. And just having a decent quarterback.
I don't insult Fajardo by calling him decent, but having
a good quarterback actually showed how bad the rest of
the team actually is. And even after that, you got
to downgrade Edmonton. How much can you downgrade this team?
This isn't a Taylor Cornelius Edmonton team, but like it's
clearly the worst team in the league on paper, Ottawa
has more injuries. I'd say Ottawa is worse as is
right now in power rankings, but the worst team in
the league on paper, but still like Hamilton isn't what
the record says they are, right like they're they're a
middle of the range team. They're a BC. And you
saw that that game could have gone either way. It
probably should have gone against Hamilton if it played out
the way, if it played out with like some pip
squeaks on the sidelines telling the coaches what to do.
But four o'clock or four o'clock, four and a half
is too much to be taking at home against a
middle of the range team in the league, right, So
I like the four and a half. It moved a
little bit there and then you're like, your wait till
it bounces back. Well that's how serious they take my action.
They bounced it back to four and a half like
twenty minutes later. So uh yeah, I like that one.
That one is the uh that one really jumps out.
And I think the money line is like one seventy
five right now you have to you have to, uh,
you have to sprinkle a bit on that too, So
full unit there and maybe a quarter unit on the
money on the money line, and we're we're going to
be supporting the Elks again.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, a lot of people probably aren't.
So you know, when you're looking at an alex Bet,
you're probably on an island, and that's kind of a
good thing you want to be sometimes as a sports
better be on an island or be that contrarian. I
think it's just different with this team with a different
quarterback behind center, that's for sure. So when we look
at it, we look at Hamilton. I think they got
Montreal in the first game with MBT behind center. They
head back to back games against the Red Blocks, and
then before that they had fifty one points against the Argos.
This is a pretty good West in conference. Edmonton's had
to play most of the mostly the West. I believe
BC twice. I believe If I'm wrong, Bobby, I think
they played BC twice. So I'm not gonna sit here
and say Edmonton's not as bad as they've looked. But
I am gonna sit here and say Hamilton isn't as
good as they've looked. So we'll take plus four and
a half there. This is the one Bobby, I don't
have as much on yet. We're obviously waiting for some
information as well on this one. For different positions. Saskatchewan Montreal.
This one's kind of an interesting travel one from what
I've seen. I think three of the last four games
for sask have been at home for them, Montreal back
at home here this week. Exciting. When do you have
anything here? I'm kind of leaning towards under in this one,
under forty nine and a half. I haven't really been
playing full game total lately.
Speaker 2: Like I think the wrong team's favored here. Saskatchewan's a
lot more beat up than people realize. You could take
their injury report and like, I keep going back to these,
but this is what makes a different have a couple
points every week. Saskatchewan's injury report might be the best
offensive line in the league. They've they've they've had the
worst luck there ever since Drake put that that chain
on with the Riders logo, it's been injury after injury.
Wide receiver still banged up, but they they're very good
at like just finding these guys to fill the spot,
so that's not as much of a concern. But I
think what they should be worried about is that MBT
showed that he's not as bad as people were saying.
Any Well, he had two pretty rough games to return
to a starting job, and and then this past week
he played pretty decent, right he was. They were running
away with that that game, if I remember correctly. So
I haven't taken a side yet, even though I like
I should. It's two and a half, but it's two
and a half with juice, So I think there's potential
for a three popping up here. Saskatchewan's a very public team,
and hey, if it goes the other way, I'm okay
with the two. I'm okay with Montreal getting two points
at home as well. So there's a couple of interesting
like home dogs here that I don't think should be
should be dogs. So uh, I'm just gonna see which
way this goes.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: In terms of the line, like the Saskatchewan team, I
wouldn't trust that past defense to go under anywhere, right,
So yeah they were. They were getting to the quarterback
pretty good in in against Edmonton. But I don't know
if if the Montreal line is as bad. Right, So,
if Montreal can protect Mbt, that kind of neutralizes the Riders.
It's just a matter of can Mbt air it out
like he like he like he was doing last year
in Edmonton? Before he got benched for the wrong guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you look at Saskatchewan like for them,
like a lot of quotes that out of Trevor Harris,
different players about how they ended last game. Obviously they
got the win, but they weren't happy with that second
half effort against the Elks by the end of the day.
Like I said, three to the last four games I
believe at home for Sketchwan, have they faced any adversity
yet besides injuries like this team looks like they've had,
Like you know, there's been no typical CFL betting schedule
flat spots for them, and now they've got to play
a team that you know, people can't you can't forget
how good this Dalouett's team is. You know, they're a
good team, and we saw it last week getting six
and a half points against the Stampeders and winning outright.
This is a good team. They're back at home, like
you said, only a couple of points there, so we'll
see lean towards the under for me, but I do
lean towards the home squad as well. We'll see where
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it up.
Speaker 2: No, if you're a Kate bretton, come on down to
Daniel's aalehouse. We got were the official bar of Red
Blocks fans and we'll have the game on Thursday night.
And I've been here a week. We're already out of
quarters late, so I'll make sure that's that's refilled for
game time on Thursday. So I know there's at least
one Kate Breton Red Blacks fan and they gave me
a jersey. I gotta support them, especially if I'm going
to be on them, depending on this injury news.
Speaker 1: So come on, I see you in a few weeks,
two or three weeks. I'm going to see you, all right.
Coming over to Daniels, Okay, I might have to get
a d D if we're spending it. We're having pounding
back some corps lights and we're gonna have to get in.
I'm gonna see what kind of hard liquer collection you've
got back there, so we'll test the bar. We'll see
what you've got at Daniels. But looking forward to week nine, guys,
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