WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.559 Welcome to another segment of nonprofits where we're going to discuss, well, 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:08.119 maybe not our favorite state, but at least our favorite 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.359 state to discuss eli, what have you got for us? 4 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:16.760 So? Back in September of twenty twenty three, schools across 5 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:20.559 Florida were required to send in their sex education materials 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.039 to be reviewed by the state to ensure they aligned 7 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:28.600 with new regulations that strictly enforce abstinence only education. The 8 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.359 new policies state that visual representations of reproductive anatomy nor 9 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:37.119 discussions of different types of sex should be present at 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.079 any grade level, and that contraceptives are not part of 11 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:44.880 any health or science standard and should only be mentioned 12 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.679 as a health resource, banning demonstrations on how to use contraceptives. 13 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:53.679 The language also specifies that children through high school should 14 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:57.039 be taught that abstinence from sexual activity outside of marriage 15 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.799 is the expected standard for all school age students. Now, 16 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.400 I don't know if this feeling is surprise or despair, 17 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.920 but I definitely worry for the children growing up in Florida. 18 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.760 This story is from Popular by Rebecca Crosby on September 19 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:13.319 twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. 20 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.799 Well, that was quite a mouthful and quite a letdown. 21 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:18.000 Now. 22 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.359 Yeah, now you and I have had conversations about this 23 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.599 topic before, because you and I, both in our viewpoint 24 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:32.280 of saying educate children, have both been labeled groomers. Now, 25 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.840 so what do you think about that? Where do you 26 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.000 come from? How do you feel about that? What's your response? 27 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:39.400 Do you like? 28 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:45.040 So I had to look up at one point, I'm like, 29 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.879 let me find the actual definition of grooming because maybe 30 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:49.400 I'm wrong. 31 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:50.680 How why are these. 32 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.840 People like seeing a similarity between what I'm saying and grooming? 33 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.680 And no, it's not the same. It's almost as much 34 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.359 different as it could be from what I'm saying, which 35 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.079 is give kids accurate information about the world so that 36 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.039 they can be prepared. And yeah, you're going to you know, 37 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.919 different things are going to be suitable for different age groups. 38 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.159 But if you're not willing to teach things to your 39 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:18.439 kids about sex or related topics, there are plenty of 40 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.919 people that don't have their best interest in mind that 41 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.400 are more than happy to do it for you. And 42 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.479 by keeping them naive, you're not protecting them, You're keeping 43 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.400 them vulnerable. And I think too, that this article is 44 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.560 muddying the waters a little bit when or not the article, 45 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.639 but the language of the bill is muddying the waters 46 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.319 a little bit here when it says all school aged children, 47 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.199 because that is, of course talking about very young children 48 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.319 from five up to you know, ten, eleven, twelve, you know, 49 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.840 and thirteen some may even consider young. I think that's 50 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:52.599 probably the age where kids should start learning it because 51 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.520 most humans are sexually mature by the time they're thirteen 52 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:00.520 years old, and these kids are thinking about seen by 53 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.759 the time they finish high school, fifty seven percent of 54 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.120 people will have already had sex. And if they're not 55 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.800 learning it from trusted and knowledgeable adults, they're going to 56 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:13.319 be learning it from ignorant friends, or untrustworthy adults, or 57 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.360 untrustworthy friends or ignorant adults. There's any combination of things 58 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.840 that can go wrong. It is I think a parent's 59 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:24.520 it's a parent's responsibility to accurately and be sure that 60 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.360 they're accurately teaching their kids about sex and anything that 61 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.560 they might want to know about it without shame and 62 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:36.680 like that stigma, because it can only do more good 63 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:37.080 than harm. 64 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.159 Absolutely, you know, one thing is, as you mentioned, someone's 65 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.360 going to teach your kids, and that's going to be 66 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:45.039 someone who is going to do the best they can, 67 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.479 or someone who, as you said, is just ignored the fact, 68 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.360 or even worse, someone who has ill intent. But I 69 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.840 can guarantee you that if your kids don't know what 70 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.319 they need to know, that is something that makes a 71 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:02.080 person who has ill intent, and it makes their job easier, 72 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.199 not more difficult. Now switching over to you for a moment, 73 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.400 Jonathan Up, I know that this band included bands on 74 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:15.319 contraception and discussion of LGBTQ issues, but one I found 75 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.360 particularly galling, and not that the other two aren't, was 76 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.040 banning discussion about consent. I mean, don't you think that 77 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.720 that is a should be a required topic, not just 78 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.800 for boys or just for girls, because you know, well 79 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:33.800 sounds they want to limit it to just one or 80 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.439 the other, but that everyone needs to understand what consent is. Well, 81 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:39.959 what do you think that was about. 82 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:45.319 Changing sex education to exclude abuse? Consent and violence? Is 83 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:49.160 just allowing young children to be abused and victimize. Maybe 84 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:52.680 that is what the conservatives want, a ready stable of 85 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.879 children who won't complain about them raping them. It sure 86 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.920 looks like it, but I'm not going to just accuse 87 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.720 them of that. But I thinks they do protest too much, 88 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.040 and so you know they're in having Knowing for a 89 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.720 fact that several of our representatives in Congress are under 90 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.360 investigation for that kind of nonsense, it just makes me 91 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.360 a little bit more weary and weary and leary about it. 92 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.399 But there's already an effect from this BS anyway. And 93 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:29.519 in areas where there's comprehensive sex education not and where 94 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:35.920 it's not taught, where comprehensive sex education is not taught, chlamydia, HIV, syphilis, 95 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.959 gunner rhea are all on the rise. Teen pregnancy is 96 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:42.920 on the rise. These are areas where abstinence only is taught. 97 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.600 All the things they're trying to prevent are happening more 98 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.279 because these kids do not understand what's going on, and 99 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.480 so if you don't teach them about it, they're going 100 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.680 to experiment themselves. And when they do that, all the 101 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.199 things you're trying to prevent are going to go up. 102 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.480 And they have areas that have come for and sex said, 103 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:08.920 the average sexual experience was prolonged. In other words, it 104 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:14.399 was later in their teen years than otherwise it's abstinence only, 105 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.399 they tend to have sex earlier. And I think it's 106 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.160 just that if you don't pay attention, and you know, 107 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:25.439 kids aren't stupid, you treat, if you infantilize them, they're 108 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.199 going to throw tantrums and do exactly what you told 109 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.160 me not to, right, guess what you know that seems 110 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.680 to be borne out by the stats. So if you 111 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:37.879 want your kid to stay celibate until marriage and everything else, 112 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.319 then you damn well better teach them an awful lot 113 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:42.560 about sex education because that seems to be the only 114 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.040 way to get them to hold off. So and but yeah, 115 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:50.120 it's it's really concerning that they're allowing their kids to 116 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:54.480 be set up to be violently violated by any idiot 117 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.000 who comes comes along, any criminal comes along, by not 118 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:03.240 teaching about sex. That's there's no universe where that's okay. 119 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.639 You know, I agree. One thing that I have to 120 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:11.079 say is that I know there's this gold standard of 121 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:14.399 you know, wait until you're married, until you have sex 122 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:18.240 and don't have sex and until you find that right person. 123 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.839 Well I have a different view on that because I 124 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.800 think and and and I know this is not going 125 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.040 to be a popular view with some people, but I 126 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.000 think you need to try that shit out and see 127 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.519 what you like before you make any decisions. So whether 128 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.720 it comes down to not just the person that you 129 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:39.279 plan on marrying, but that just seems like limiting yourself 130 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.639 for it, especially considering that if you're going to be 131 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.600 in a monogamous relationship with one person for a long 132 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.079 period of time, you better at least make sure that 133 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.720 it's the type of person you like, that they have 134 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.720 the likes and dislikes you like. And the only way 135 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.480 that you're going to know what you like is go 136 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.439 out there and find out. So whatever you do, don't 137 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.360 wait until you're married, if you get married at all. 138 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:07.439 But that's just my viewpoint now, seriously though, Yeah, well 139 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.199 you know, and then the funny part is is that 140 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.519 I know that when when I said that in front 141 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.040 of my mother in law a long time ago, I 142 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.600 thought she was about to, you know, she'd have had pearls. 143 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.680 It's against her religion to have jewelry. But if she'd 144 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:22.040 have had pearls, she'd have probably ripped them off her 145 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.680 own damn neck. But you know, you know, we're kind 146 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.560 of talking about what we're discussing on both sides. Eli. 147 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.639 You know, Florida leads a nation in HIV cases. We 148 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.519 see what's happened with the Catholic Church preaching against even 149 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:40.200 condom use or discussion of condoms, and places like Africa 150 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.759 and what it's done to disease there, And what do 151 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.320 you think that we're going to see here in Florida 152 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.679 as we see this, And to me, it feels like 153 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.279 it's a goal. They want ignorant people because they want 154 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:58.360 them to be obedient citizens who get get pregnant young 155 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:02.000 and have kids and get bogged down into the routine 156 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:03.200 more than anything else. 157 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:03.799 What do you think? 158 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:08.039 Yeah, I mean, I think you nailed it, honestly, and 159 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.480 alongside with what John pointed, I had both of these 160 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:14.159 things that you guys said in my notes. Among the 161 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:18.919 ten states with the highest rate of births among adolescent 162 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:23.240 people capable of getting pregnant, those states from one to 163 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:27.840 ten or Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas, 164 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:31.919 West Virginia, and New Mexico, and the first eight require 165 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:35.840 abstinence only education. West Virginia New Mexico have some more progressive, 166 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:37.879 you know, sex education programs. I don't know what's going 167 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.360 on there, but the first eight of the top ten 168 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.639 highest rates of adolescent births is the states that require 169 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.360 absence only educations are just like you said, like both 170 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.000 of you have said, kids that are getting taught not 171 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.600 to have sex are having it sooner. Because here's the thing, 172 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.840 Like you said, kids aren't stupid. They're going to school 173 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:00.519 or they're going to church or here from their parents. 174 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.200 Don't have sex, don't have sex, don't have sex. And 175 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.639 then getting on Instagram, you know, on TikTok, you or wherever, 176 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.360 and everybody is talking about sex. Everybody is having sex, 177 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.480 and they're seeing this and they're like, Okay, why are 178 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.039 like what's going on here? Why is everyone and why 179 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.720 are the adults these losers telling us not to have sex. 180 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.759 And everybody that's cool on TikTok and Instagram that I 181 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:22.360 want to be just like is talking about sex. What's 182 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.679 going on here? So they're gonna start doing it with 183 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.720 no information and we've already established it. And I think 184 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.159 what's going to happen is you're going to have just 185 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.279 like has been said, you're gonna have more. 186 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:36.039 Rates. 187 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:40.039 Yeah, more STDs, more adolescent birth rates, probably gonna knock 188 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.240 West Virginia or New Mexico out of ninth or tenthity 189 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:45.399 place probably take both of those. Florida could I if 190 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.399 anybody could, it would be Florida. And it's you know, 191 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.120 and they're even the ability of the language in this 192 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.399 new regulation, even talking about restricting, uh, the use of 193 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.440 the word fluids, which, as a professor of public health 194 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:03.440 named Lisa bar pointed out, that makes it extremely difficult 195 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:08.519 to properly teach about things like sexual transmitted infections like HIV, which, 196 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.000 as you mentioned, already has one of the highest rates 197 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:12.799 of Florida already has one of the highest rates of 198 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.120 HIV infection in the country. So nothing is going to 199 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:21.159 get better here and and I mean where it's it's 200 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:25.960 this this loop, this circle of terrible effect after terrible effect. 201 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.240 More kids are going to get victimized. More kids are 202 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.200 going to make ignorant, uninformed choices and cause harm to 203 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:36.320 themselves that way. And you know, who knows what it's 204 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:39.120 going to take to like get anything that changed back 205 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.000 for the better in Florida. I agree with you. It 206 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.639 does seem like they want an ignorant population. 207 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.440 Yeah, capulation too. Yeah, you have as many kids as 208 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.279 they can so they get butts in the seats in 209 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.080 their church and get the tithes, so you know, that 210 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.440 way they keep their money too going. 211 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.440 I agree, Jonathan, I think that they're looking for you 212 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:02.120 a nice heteronormative, really relationship. Have a bunch of babies, 213 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.639 have them young, and let's have them for God. And 214 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.840 you know, so this is a hand in hand thing 215 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.159 where you know, the Christians get themselves butts in their 216 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:16.799 seat paying ties and the corporations get their compliant workforce. 217 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.840 Because once again, as we've talked about many times here 218 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:24.639 in Florida, anti it's not just anti education of sex education. 219 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.879 The truth is that right now, I think we're experiencing 220 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.279 just a case of anti education when it comes down 221 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.519 to some states, Florida in particular. For this Eli talked 222 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.240 about words that were taken out that weren't there, no 223 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.639 longer to be able to be used, and another one 224 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.200 that we it may have been mentioned, but I don't 225 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:46.080 recall it was the word domestic violence. Jonathan, what do 226 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.679 you think that's about. You know, we talked about first 227 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.600 we're talking taking away consent, but now we're not even 228 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.399 going to talk about domestic violence. 229 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:59.519 You know, the domestic violence is often sexual in nature. 230 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:01.840 There or we can't talk about that in front of 231 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.320 the children, of course not. I mean, you know, why 232 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.600 would you want to do that, Well, maybe to prevent 233 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.480 them from being victims of domestic violence and breaking the 234 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:14.000 cycle of domestic violence. Or is it that, since Christians 235 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.919 believe that the man is supposed to be sacrosanct and 236 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.720 superior in the household, that he has a right to 237 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.240 beat his wife, you know, and he has a right 238 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.559 to spank his children. It wouldn't surprise me. I haven't 239 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.840 heard or seen that as an actual policy measure, but 240 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.679 it seems to be they're kind of tacitly kind of 241 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.480 sliding that in under the table here where it's going 242 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.480 to be something that will well, you know, we're going 243 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.440 to normalize injuring people in the home, you know, And 244 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:44.879 that's kind of like that's a big red flag. So yeah, 245 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:45.399 it's bad. 246 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.519 That's exactly how I took it, because I mean, first 247 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.519 we say, okay, let's not talk about consent, and now 248 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.759 let's not talk about domestic violence. And yes, you mentioned 249 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.240 spanking children. Let's be realistic, most of these people who 250 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:00.600 we're talking about who are behind this kind of thing 251 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.240 would cheer raw raw round beating your kids too. And 252 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.399 of course they would say, oh, it's spanking, not beating, 253 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.639 but if you if you hit a kid, it's beating. 254 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.879 In my book, I don't make a distinction there. So, Eli, 255 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.759 what do you think is Jonathan right? Or are we 256 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.279 just heading to a point where we're just easing in 257 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.480 another bad behavior. We've talked before about bad behaviors and 258 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.759 words being normalized. Are we looking at just one more 259 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.080 thing that it feels like we're just trying to slip 260 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.559 something else in under the cracks, So we're looking at 261 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:29.759 a normalization of this. 262 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.639 You'd have to think that there's some sort of motivation 263 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:37.480 for taking out education about consent or to mess about it, 264 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:42.360 because I can't, like, as a cognitively capable adult, I 265 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.480 can't imagine looking back on any moment in my life 266 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.519 and being like, you know, I wish I knew less 267 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.759 about what I was doing at that time. I wish 268 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:53.639 I had less information to make a worse decision or 269 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.840 less like that. And I don't think that thought ever 270 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.919 should occur to any rational human. So for them to 271 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.360 you think that they're preparing anybody for success by doing 272 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.840 exactly that blows my mind. So, yeah, you have to 273 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.600 think that there's some sort of it something to be 274 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.399 gained from them by remote, like by by limiting access 275 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.799 to this information, to this knowledge, because you like, like 276 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.600 we've already covered, Like you're not protecting anybody by not 277 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.639 teaching them about you know, what is and isn't okay. 278 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:29.039 And this isn't just about sex or like relationships or 279 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.799 domestic violence. This is about anything. You can't set somebody 280 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.480 up for success by only teaching them the good things. 281 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.320 They have to know how to prepare for the bad things. Otherwise, like, 282 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:42.360 because you're not only going to have good things, You're 283 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.080 gonna have bad things come up, and if you're not 284 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.559 prepared to deal with them, it doesn't matter. How Like, 285 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.200 it doesn't matter what you know about the good things, 286 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:49.600 because you're never going to get there. 287 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.120 Without a doubt. And I do think that we are 288 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.320 seeing exactly these things coming together. And it's like you 289 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:03.120 talked about earlier to eighteen children. And one of my reminders, 290 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.320 and I mentioned it to you not long ago, was 291 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.840 a conversation I had with my youngest and it was 292 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.039 about P. Diddy and it was about the vials, I mean, 293 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:16.600 the canisters of Loube thousand lou canvass of loubes they found, 294 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:19.759 and it didn't take me very longer than that discussion 295 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.720 to realize that she didn't understand the purpose of the 296 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.879 loub and Okay, well it's time to have a discussion 297 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.320 about that and explain that because like anything else, it's 298 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:34.120 either information or it's misinformation, and that information is going 299 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.720 to be to learn from someone who's going to give 300 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.879 real information or someone who's not. But you know, when 301 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.399 it comes down to things like loube or what was 302 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.399 the word that they said, we couldn't need fluids, I 303 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.840 can understand some giggling and some fourteen year olds being 304 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.279 fourteen year olds in class about that. Okay, I get 305 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.639 that there's a certain level of awkwardness to it, But 306 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.440 when it comes down to issues like you know, consent, 307 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.840 when it comes down to issues like domestic violence, I 308 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.360 don't think that there's going to be awkward moments in 309 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.079 classes with kids giggling over the fact that, you know, 310 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.839 we're talking about these issues. I think there are issues 311 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.440 that would be taken very serious. And I found it 312 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.279 really unfortunate that some places in Florida are just saying okay, 313 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:22.319 because our teachers, rightfully so, are so concerned about teaching 314 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:24.920 this to a class of children, because they're going to 315 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.279 go home to parents and say things, and if I 316 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:29.720 slip up, it could be my job that they're saying, 317 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.960 you know what, we're not going to teach sex at 318 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:36.039 at all, And that is so unfortunate for the children 319 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.039 because they need that information. If nothing else, I would 320 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.160 like them to know what consent is. Jonathan, what do 321 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.680 you think you think that there's Is this something that's 322 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.200 going to last or is this something that people. 323 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.920 Flora is going back to being purple here. There's a 324 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.559 lot of there's a lot of pushback on the magacrap 325 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.960 and the slight majority of people don't like it. So 326 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.440 it's going to be here in Florida. I think it's 327 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.000 going to eventually go the way of all flesh. But 328 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.680 you know, you never know. They can hang on by 329 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.920 their fingernails like they have over the last twenty thirty 330 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.200 years and just you know, and I don't mean just 331 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.680 mag I mean arch conservatives have never gone away. They've 332 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:20.920 been here since the beginning of the country and they've 333 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.680 always been working to turn us back into a monarchy. 334 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.240 So it's just a matter of being aware they're there 335 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:31.440 and having the majority of people and strengthening the middle 336 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:35.279 class and other people who tend to decide a lot 337 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:38.759 of these elections and other things. But you know, it's 338 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.880 just one of these things you cannot and you cannot 339 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:48.799 not tell kids that when their grandfather is touching them inappropriately, 340 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:54.039 they shouldn't say anything horseshit, you know. And you can't 341 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:58.640 tell kids that, oh, gee, you know what did that 342 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.680 what at that juck guy at school say to you? 343 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:04.720 You know, well, he said he wanted to take me 344 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:09.359 into the closet. You really want your kids to say, oh, okay, no, 345 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.839 you want them to recognize what's going on and go 346 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:16.279 run and tell somebody. Right, not telling him about it 347 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.839 is the most dangerous thing you can do for your children. 348 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.160 So these people obviously don't care about the kids. That's 349 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:23.240 not what they care about. 350 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:23.200 You know. 351 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.759 They care about the points. You know, they care about 352 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:27.160 their talking points. That's it. 353 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:31.359 Honestly, I'm not sure what they care about because it 354 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.119 doesn't seem to be in anybody's self interest. And Eli, 355 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:36.640 I wanted to give you an opportunity to wrap up 356 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:38.519 a couple of things I know you and I talked 357 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.640 about before. The groomer thing and being called at and 358 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.279 so you know, to those who say this at all 359 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.119 be done at home, not in schools, well, do you 360 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.240 what do you have to say to that? 361 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:51.319 That's actually that's exactly what I wanted to end on, 362 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.759 because I think I mentioned that earlier. I think parents 363 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:55.440 have a responsibility to do that, but to do it 364 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.480 accurately to a very nuanced degree. Yeah, I think that, 365 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.079 you know, sex should be taught at homes, but I 366 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:05.279 think that gets mishandled more than more than it doesn't 367 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:10.000 because not every you know, parent would have a conversation 368 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.480 with their child that is the age that that your 369 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.759 youngest is about what lube is, and especially in the 370 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:17.599 in the context of like p Didy and what's going 371 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:20.880 on with him. Right, So, I think parents are notoriously 372 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.200 bad at talking to their kids about sex. My parents 373 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.640 didn't teach me anything about sex. I learned it all 374 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.279 on my own, and I just happened to, like eventually 375 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:30.920 at this point, kind of have some ideas that are 376 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.759 not horrible, right, And I think I think that I 377 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:35.640 have the right ideas. I hope that I do, and 378 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:37.799 I'm always trying to make sure that i'm that you 379 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.880 know that I do. But I didn't learn it from 380 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:42.400 my parents. My my the talk with my dad was like, hey, 381 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.279 what do you know about sex? And I lied and 382 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.359 I was like, and he goes, oh, sex is a 383 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.319 gift from God for parents, and I was like okay, 384 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.799 and he didn't describe anything about it. So like I 385 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:54.440 had to learn these things on my own. Just like 386 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.319 I said before, if if you don't educate yourself so 387 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:01.079 that you can properly educate your twoildren, someone else is 388 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:02.319 going to do it. And you don't know if that 389 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.119 information is going to be true. You don't know if 390 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:06.200 it's going to be safe. You don't know who if 391 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.480 that person is going to be safe and that, and 392 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.799 like I like the last time I invited the you 393 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.960 know YouTube to call me a grouma, they didn't. They 394 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:16.960 disappeared on me. They failed me, So I'm giving you 395 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.279 another chance. I had a whole conversation about talking to 396 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.680 kids about sex, let's talk about it. 397 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:28.400 Well, you know, Ray, my wife has never gotten that 398 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.200 speech from her mom. Her mom never even gave her 399 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.559 the sex talk, never even made an attempt, So I 400 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.960 guess it's kind of late now. But you know, you 401 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.240