WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:18.079 Coming to you from the dining room table at East 2 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:22.760 Barbury Lane. Welcome to the first episode of season five 3 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.280 of Full Circle, the podcast. A visit to our home 4 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.480 where we squeeze a few headlines through our decidedly queer 5 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.679 lens and see what happens. This episode is brought to 6 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:39.799 you by Decanted jug Wine and a Windows open day 7 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.159 in early March. 8 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.079 I am your host, Charles Tyson Jr. 9 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.479 And I am your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome back to 10 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:48.799 the Full Circle Table. 11 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:51.759 Five seasons. 12 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.640 That was take four. It took me four takes to 13 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.399 get the intro, which is always cold. I don't know 14 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.359 why I was tripping over it, but I was, you wasp, 15 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.319 I was tripping on it. Yeah, so season five, how 16 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:08.560 about that? Who'd have thought me? Yeah, you saw that, 17 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.719 you saw longevity. I did happening. 18 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:16.439 Because you know, it's not like we're talking about a 19 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.239 subject that has a shelf life or anything. 20 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:20.760 Yes, it is. 21 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.319 What queerness. 22 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.000 Oh no, that doesn't know. I mean sometimes what's what 23 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.519 we're talking about has a bit of a shelf life. 24 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.319 Obviously that was getting ready saying. 25 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:33.840 But I was like, wait, what, oh no, you know 26 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.159 something I know? Yeah, neither one of us will stop 27 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.680 being queer. You won't stop being black, I won't stop 28 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.560 being trans. So I guess here we are yeah right, yeah, 29 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.640 and and and it continues to bother up a segment 30 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:53.640 of the population. Good right, good, Yeah, success is the 31 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:54.519 best revenge. 32 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:59.640 I was channeling the big bug Monster from one of 33 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:03.959 the cut ways on Family Guy. Good good. 34 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.159 This is what number is this? We're we're one hundred 35 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:11.120 and sixty something. 36 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:15.199 Yeah, this would be one hundred and sixty five. 37 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.800 Wow. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, so we've been we've been 38 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:25.520 recording for a while now. Yeah, we do have some 39 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.360 good news along with some nonsense, along with some folks 40 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.360 who died as per usual. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. So, 41 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.639 you know, any thoughts as we enter season five, any 42 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.080 any other than you know, you've got a cold, and 43 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:45.520 my clock is working and we have the windows open. 44 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.759 This is the season where big things are going to happen, 45 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:51.400 I think. So. 46 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:54.719 I love that we have such a canon of work. 47 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.159 I mean, you can figure out who we are and 48 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:02.199 what this show is pretty well. Yeah by just listening back. 49 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:07.479 It's crazy if you google me. Now, podcast stuff is 50 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.759 like the bulk of what comes up. I have to 51 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:15.039 dig to you know, find any vestiges of my performing 52 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:15.719 arts career. 53 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.840 Huh interesting and if you google me, I mean, I 54 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:26.400 guess the same is true because we got contacted through 55 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.879 the podcast. Yes, and I will be sitting on a 56 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.240 local women's history panel this coming week. 57 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:34.800 That's true. 58 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.599 My understanding sounds like the first time that they have 59 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.039 ever included a trans woman. It's exciting. 60 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:44.319 It is exciting. 61 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.599 Yeah, it's going to be interesting. But it was actually 62 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.719 a local teacher who is also very active in the 63 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:59.960 teachers' union, who was googling looking for someone to speak 64 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.240 on these issues a local trans person and found me 65 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.879 and found the podcast, and yeah, so that was kind 66 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.280 of cool. Yeah, because I thought it had something to 67 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.080 do with my previous job and had nothing to do 68 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:14.360 with that. 69 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.759 And if you want to book Martha or I or 70 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.399 both of us for anything, you can just visit full 71 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.680 Circle thepod dot com just saying. 72 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:29.519 Yeah you can, and folks are doing that. Yeah. That 73 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:35.639 is something that's picked up lately, is invitations to speak Yes, 74 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:44.120 and I'll pretty much go to anything. I I No 75 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.199 one has asked me to do anything that I felt 76 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:51.040 any kind of need to turn down, but it's nice 77 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.800 to see that continuing to happen, and anytime there's trans 78 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.720 representation and a conversation about us, I'm happier. So yeah, 79 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.199 and anytime we get to lead that conversation, I'm happier 80 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.560 still exactly. And then when it's me doing it, hey 81 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.759 fullsclepot dot com. Yeah, there you go. So good things 82 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.120 are happening. It's the start of a new season. So 83 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:19.000 I guess we will see what season five holds. You know, 84 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.399 we can't promise we record every week, but we're going 85 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:29.560 to try exactly. Yeah, so who died? I don't have 86 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:37.959 a segway into that Who's dead? Well damn Yeah. 87 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:43.279 So I just want to start off by saying People Magazine, 88 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:52.480 the way they publish their headlines is so interesting. It's 89 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.639 like they don't name names. I guess because they're not 90 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:57.480 trying to seem salacious. 91 00:05:57.920 --> 00:05:59.439 Okay, so. 92 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:08.879 They'll say like superstar, beloved film star, and it's either 93 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.600 like a big name or it's like who like that 94 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.360 played like second rock on the left in the back, 95 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:29.160 but lobster number two. So but this headline said Will 96 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.800 and Grace Starr passes away and I was like, and 97 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:39.000 come to find out it was Corey Parker Corey Parker 98 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:43.199 was the actor who played I described him to you 99 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.560 as a Grace's woo woo boyfriend, Josh. 100 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:47.240 That is what you said? 101 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.600 Who ended up being queer? 102 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:57.639 Yes in the show. Yes, Oh, okay, he. 103 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.759 Was, and he had a he had a multi episode 104 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:03.800 arc on the show. He was there for a minute. 105 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:04.279 Okay. 106 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:09.759 The actor's name is Corey Parker and he was sixty 107 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:14.399 when he lost his battle to cancer, which at first 108 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.759 I was like, how is that possible? Then it occurred 109 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:20.040 to me how long ago it was that Will and 110 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.000 Grace was on the air. 111 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.000 It's been a minute. 112 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.439 It's well nigh thirty years now. 113 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.000 So you know what I know about him? His mother, 114 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.920 I want to say. Her name is Rocky Parker, was 115 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:41.360 Patrick Dempsey's first wife and considerably older than him when 116 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.079 they married. I think Patrick Dempsey was like twenty one 117 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.800 and she was like forty seven. Oh I believe, yeah, 118 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.839 in like the late eighties. That's what I know about Corey. 119 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.959 This is about his mother, who Yeah, okay, it's all 120 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:56.680 I got, but. 121 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.680 Yeah, I enjoyed him on the show, and apparently his 122 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:06.160 death is right after another Will and Grace actor, Charles C. 123 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:12.040 Stevenson Junior, who played Smitty, who passed away last month 124 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:12.720 in February. 125 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:14.759 I don't know either of these characters. 126 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:20.920 Smitty was always the bartender, and Karen would be talking 127 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.839 to him and he would tell her like a really sad, 128 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.680 dark story, and then she would crack up and go, oh, Smitty, 129 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.480 you always know how to make me laugh. He'd be 130 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.879 talking about how like he lost a toe of frostbite 131 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.759 going through the snow to rescue his wife who ended 132 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.639 up dying in a car crash or something, and she 133 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.240 was just like, oh, Smitty, you sure know how to 134 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:44.919 tell a joke. 135 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:47.960 Oh, well, okay, I don't remember that. Yeah, I didn't 136 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.919 think she needed to go to a bar to drink. Well, 137 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.000 she didn't need to, Well I didn't. Yeah, I don't 138 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:57.240 remember that. I was not the same level of fan 139 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.000 that you were. I've not seen every episode. I don't think. 140 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.360 Well, it cracks me up because like he would always 141 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.879 be the bartender no matter where she was. 142 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.600 Oh that's okay, that's fun. 143 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:09.639 So I wonder if like she just brought him with 144 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:10.360 her everywhere. 145 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:15.200 Oh that's kind of fun. Okay. So two cast members 146 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:16.080 from Will and Grace. 147 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:21.240 Yes, okay, So rest in peace to Corey Parker and 148 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:22.720 Charles Stevenson Junior. 149 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.200 Bernard Lafayette, Yes. 150 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:33.480 I just discovered his passing yesterday. Actually. Bernard Lafayette was 151 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:39.960 the a voting rights organizer and Selma during the height 152 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:45.679 of the Civil rights movement. He passed away at eighty five, 153 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:51.440 okay this week of a heart attack. Bernard Lafayette did 154 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:55.960 the risky groundwork for the voter registration campaign in Selma, Alabama, 155 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.799 that culminated in the passage of the Voting Rights Act 156 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.360 of nineteen six correct. 157 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.120 He was one of a delegation of Nashville students who 158 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:09.000 in nineteen sixty had helped found the Student Nonviolent Coordinating 159 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:15.080 Committee known as SNICK, which organized desegregation and voting rights 160 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.080 campaigns across the South. They crossed Selma off their map 161 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.240 after some initial scouting determined that the white folks were 162 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.200 too mean and the black folks were too scared. Wow, 163 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.000 but he insisted on trying anyway. Named director of the 164 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.720 Alabama voter registration campaign in nineteen sixty three, Lafayette moved 165 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.919 to the town and with his former wife, Collia Lidell, 166 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:47.519 gradually built the leadership capacity of the local people, convincing 167 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:52.080 them change was possible and creating momentum that could not 168 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.639 be stopped. He described this work in a twenty thirteen 169 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.080 memoir called In Peace and Freedom, My journey and the. 170 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.039 Many dangers Lafayette faced included an assassination attempt on the 171 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.080 same night Magdgar Evers was murdered in Mississippi in what 172 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:12.480 the FBI said was a conspiracy to kill civil rights workers. 173 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.279 Lafayette was beaten outside his home before his assailant pointed 174 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.960 a gun at him. His calls for help brought out 175 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:22.519 a neighbor with a rifle. Lafayette found himself standing between 176 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.080 the two men, asking his neighbor not to shoot. He 177 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.440 said he felt an extraordinary sense of internal strength instead 178 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.240 of fear at that moment, and rather than fight back, 179 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:36.200 he looked his attacker in the eyes. Nonviolence is a fight, 180 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.039 to quote when that person over a struggle of the 181 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.360 human spirit. That's what he wrombered. 182 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:44.080 He was already working on a new project in Chicago 183 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.120 by the time his work in Selma came to fruition 184 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.639 in nineteen sixty five. He had planned to join the 185 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.360 Selma to Montgomery March on day two, so he missed 186 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.879 Bloody Sunday when the march was stopped by teargas and 187 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:03.559 club wieldings State troopers before it even got out of Selma. 188 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.200 I felt helpless at a distance, he wrote. I was 189 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.919 stricken with grief, concerned that so many people in my 190 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:16.559 beloved community were hurt, possibly killed. But he shifted quickly, 191 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.320 rounding up people in Chicago and arranging transport to Alabama 192 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.200 for a second attempt. They set off two weeks later 193 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.320 on what had become a victory march. President Lyndon Johnson 194 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.720 had introduced the Voting Rights Act to Congress. 195 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:35.200 Lafayette grew up in Tampa, Florida, where he recalled trying 196 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.480 to board a trolley with his grandmother when he was 197 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.000 seven years old. Black passengers had to pay at the front, 198 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.000 then walk to the back to climb on, but the 199 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.720 conductor began to pull away before they could board, and 200 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.720 his grandmother fell. He was too little to help. I 201 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.720 felt like a sword cut me in half, and I 202 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.360 vowed I would do something about this problem one day, 203 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.879 he wrote in his memoir, And he did you know? 204 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.679 He had said Antentah twenty one. When you think about it, 205 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:05.720 we weren't trying to make history or trying to rewrite history. 206 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.840 We were responding to the problems of the particular time. 207 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:10.440 Right. 208 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.080 Wow, So what a life, right yeah, what an important contribution. 209 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.399 And it's crazy that I didn't learn really about him 210 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:20.039 until he died. 211 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:22.679 How about that? How many? Right? 212 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:23.120 You know? 213 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.480 In his memoir, Lafayette wrote that the ever present threat 214 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.039 of death during those early years of organizing taught him 215 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.879 that the value of life lies not in longevity, but 216 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:42.120 in what people do to give it significance, rest in power, 217 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:48.720 rust and power. Indeed, let's move right along and talk 218 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:51.559 about some good news. How about that. That'd be great. Okay, 219 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.879 let's see. So primary elections have started, Yes they have. 220 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:05.240 Anti trans Democrats were blown out in North Carolina in 221 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.240 the primary election. 222 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:07.080 Ha. 223 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:15.759 Yes, Nasif Majeed lost to Valeria Levy, who ran on 224 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:23.559 a pro LGBT plus platform. Other conservative Democrats lost as well, 225 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.799 you know, because I am tired of that trope that 226 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:32.080 I'm hearing from some Democrats like Kevin Newsom, that you know, 227 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:34.879 we've got to we've got to get off the tranny stuff. No, 228 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.559 you don't. There's a big New York election that proved that. 229 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:44.279 And I think this is more proof that the candidate 230 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.360 you know these these were these folks were primaried. These 231 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:51.399 these folks who were doing just that, abandoning the what 232 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:55.039 should be the party line about queer and trans people 233 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.519 are being primaried out. Yeah, I love seeing it. Let's 234 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:04.240 see Democrats like Seth Multon and Tom Suzi, as well 235 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.399 as Governor Gavin Newsom, have all leaned into this idea 236 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.559 that they need to be more moderate on trans issues. 237 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.519 There are no trans issues. First of all, let's get 238 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:19.799 that clear. There are no trans issues. They were wholly 239 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.720 manufactured by the Republican Party. We were doing just fine 240 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:30.919 without y'all. We didn't need your input whatsoever. Our medicine 241 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:39.600 belongs in the hands of doctors, period, patients, parents, caregivers. 242 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:45.159 It should never have been an issue. They created it. 243 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:49.039 So Democrats that are stupid enough to jump on that 244 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:53.639 issue deserve to be primari and I love seeing this. 245 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.519 Let's say. Yeah, and the state in North Carolina is 246 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.600 most prominent anti te transgender democrat fell to a progressive 247 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:12.840 challenger and lost by more than forty points. Other anti 248 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.919 transit rate leaning democrats lost their own primaries as well. 249 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.600 Former Representative Michael Ray, who voted with Republicans to override 250 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:26.600 vetos on a transgender sportsman and a youth gender affirming 251 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.360 Caraban in twenty twenty three, attempted to reclaim his seat 252 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.840 after losing his twenty twenty four primary by just thirty 253 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:38.039 four votes. He even appealed to Republicans in his district 254 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.519 to temporarily switch their voting registrations so they could vote 255 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:47.480 for him in the Democratic primary. It didn't work, nope. Pierce, 256 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:52.399 who had campaigned explicitly against Ray's record of voting with Republicans, 257 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:57.279 demolished him in the rematch sixty four percent to thirty 258 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:02.039 six percent. Conservatives. Democrat Carla Cunningham, who was the sole 259 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.960 Democratic vote to override Governor Stein's veto of an ice 260 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:10.119 cooperation bill and declared on the House floor that all 261 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.960 cultures are not equal, lost our own primary to the 262 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:19.319 Reverend Rodney Sadler seventy percent to twenty two percent. It's 263 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:24.519 almost like these tired old Republican in middle of the 264 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:28.839 road ideas don't fly anymore. Exactly, this is not what 265 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.480 the American people want. And the more you try to 266 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:35.160 convince us that it is, the matter, folks get and 267 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.839 we're seeing the backlash in states like North Carolina. Yep, 268 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:40.079 how about. 269 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:43.200 It say something I'm giving up on you. 270 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:47.480 I know. Anti transgender Democrats have not fared well in 271 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.240 recent years. In twenty twenty three, Texas Democrat Sean siy 272 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.880 voted to pass a gender firming caraban for trans youth 273 00:17:55.599 --> 00:18:00.200 called Transgender Girls Biological Males, argued that conversion therapy was 274 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.559 the true solution to gender dysphoria. The following year, she 275 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.200 lost her primary runoff to Lauren Ashley Simmons, a black 276 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.480 queer union organizer, sixty five to thirty five percent. Similar 277 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:16.640 result came in Kansas, where Democrat Marvin Robinson was the 278 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:21.440 sole Democratic vote to override Laura Kelly's veto of a 279 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:25.240 transgender sports fan, a vote his Democratic colleagues accused him 280 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.640 of trading to Republicans in exchange for two hundred and 281 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.720 fifty thousand dollars in funding for a community gazebo. He 282 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.400 lost his twenty twenty four primary, receiving twenty two percent 283 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.920 of the vote. In recent years, many Democrats have tried 284 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.759 to suggest that the party should drop transgender issues and 285 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:49.519 cave to Republicans to curry votes. The Republicans don't even 286 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:54.680 want this shit, right, What you'd be currying the favor 287 00:18:54.920 --> 00:19:00.799 of Republican politicians, not actual Republicans, right, most of them. 288 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:03.400 They should stay the fuck out of it. This is 289 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.359 despite the American public siding with Democrats on transgender issues 290 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.640 over Republicans at a plus twenty two percent margin, according 291 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:17.039 to a very recent Fox News poem. I like it, right, 292 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.640 I like it. I like seeing it. There was lots 293 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.680 of news just like that. I did put some numbers 294 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.599 here mid term primary voting results. In North Carolina, six 295 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.480 hundred and twenty six thousand, six hundred and sixty seven 296 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:38.240 Republicans voted, while eight hundred and twenty four thousand, seven 297 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:43.359 hundred and ninety eight Democrats voted. In the Texas primaries, 298 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:47.799 the Republicans saw two million, one hundred and fifty nine thousand, 299 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:53.119 while the Democrats saw two million, three hundred and twelve. 300 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:57.359 Fortunately, not enough of those voted for Jasmin Crockett. Not 301 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.400 Jasmin Crockett is all I know, right right? 302 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.960 I mean, I think I'm sure we haven't heard the 303 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:04.799 last from her. 304 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:10.319 She was the first politician I sent money to besides Obama. 305 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.880 There you go. I mean, I love listening to her, 306 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:20.519 her clarity, her fearlessness, in her words, amazing, she's smart 307 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:21.000 as hell. 308 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:25.960 One thing about her loss, Oh, it brought out all 309 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.880 of the massage noir of course, from every side, women, men, 310 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:34.920 white people, black. 311 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:39.599 People, absolutely absolutely well. And here's the thing. That was 312 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.519 a statewide race. Her seat in the House was not 313 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:47.599 that was you know, district right that I believed before this, 314 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:51.920 before this was Jerrymander, you know too in her favor. 315 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.119 Let's say that, right, This was the entire state of 316 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:58.759 Texas voting. So are we surprised? 317 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.839 Not really, I mean it was still a close. 318 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.599 Race, Yeah, it was. 319 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:04.720 It was. 320 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.440 I mean, you know, I saw the numbers she had, 321 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:15.240 you know, ninety much percent of black voters, right, But 322 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.720 it was the other ones. Every other race trended in 323 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:20.440 his direction. 324 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:21.160 Right. 325 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.279 White voters and Asian voters and Latino voters all went 326 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.519 his way. So that's how, Yeah, if there was a 327 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:35.440 little more equality in that direction, it justly could have one. 328 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:41.000 How they tried to paint her as uneducated, as ghetto, 329 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:44.960 you know, and it's like, oh, y'all. 330 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:49.640 Name a black woman that they haven't tried to paint 331 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:55.079 that way. Oh, I know, But it's like Katanji Katanji 332 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:58.519 Brown Jackson they tried to paint in said light. 333 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:01.559 Oh, I know, but they just they it just it, 334 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:06.400 they just really coming for her. And it's because she 335 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:14.160 was more colloquial in her speech. But no less clear, 336 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:19.240 no younger, no less pointed, no less backed up by 337 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:20.880 facts and information. 338 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.839 Right, you know, everyone doesn't find that charming. Some people 339 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.359 find that scary as fuck, obviously, right. 340 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.519 I loved it. That's one of the things I loved 341 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:29.920 about her. 342 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:34.519 It's like, oh that her many of her speeches gave 343 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.319 me a little hope, right, like, oh, thank god we 344 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:38.880 still have voices like hers. 345 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:40.160 Like I feel like we would have been besties if 346 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:41.039 we hadn't known each. 347 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:45.000 Other, right right now. I love her voice. I love 348 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:49.319 her again, her clarity, her take on things. I certainly 349 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.160 I don't think this is the end of us hearing 350 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.519 from her at all. And you know, it is a 351 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:58.440 shame that she didn't win that one, Yeah it is. 352 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:02.960 But you know this is when you, you know, include 353 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.119 the whole state, no matter how popular a representative might 354 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.359 be in their area or their district, right, that doesn't 355 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.839 mean they can carry the state. And you know, again, 356 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:18.759 it's fucking Texas, fucking Texas well, right, I mean, you 357 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:24.559 know it's Texas. Texan's going to Texas well, right, we 358 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.200 still have this idea that maybe maybe there's this purple 359 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:34.240 thing happening there. Uh, maybe there is. We'll see. 360 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:36.720 Texas is a big state. 361 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:42.480 It's a very big state. And yeah, I mean, yeah, 362 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.160 look at their governor. I would love to see that 363 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.799 governor no longer a governor so that they could maybe 364 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.519 replace that attorney general, right, because they have overstepped in 365 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.839 breathtaking ways. But you know, it's like Desanti's winning a 366 00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.440 second term in Florida. What the fuck? 367 00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:58.880 People? 368 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:00.920 How much do you need to and why do you 369 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:07.559 get off on seeing fellow citizens tortured for no reason? Why? 370 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.920 But yeah, it's a good ask question, isn't it Tale's 371 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:16.200 oldest time. So, yes, she did not prevail, but she 372 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.279 very much has an important voice regardless. True that this 373 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:27.920 was fun, Tim Walls, Nancy Mayce tried to do a 374 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.839 little gotcha with Tim Walls. 375 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.279 She tried it, She tried it. 376 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.000 So Tim Walls smacks down Nancy Mays's attempt to turn 377 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.680 a fraud hearing into a debate about trans people as 378 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.319 one does, right. 379 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.240 And he was basically, what we're not going to do ah. 380 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.079 You know, he did point out that the kids in 381 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:50.920 his state are doing a hell of a lot better 382 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:55.519 than the kids in her state. She is a Republican, 383 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.839 of course, from South Carolina. Of course she I believe self. 384 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.319 Des describes as a proud transfobe. Representative Nancy Mays asked 385 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:08.519 Minnesota Governor Tim Walls to define what a woman is 386 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:13.079 while questioning him in a hearing today in front of 387 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.839 the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Walls refused to 388 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:20.799 do so, saying I'm not here to be your prop 389 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.799 for your obsession. That part, Oh my god, I loved it. 390 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.839 The Republican led committee ostensibly summoned Walls to discuss mass 391 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.480 welfare fraud allegations that have occurred in his state. Minnesota's 392 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.559 Attorney General, Keith Ellison, is currently prosecuting about one hundred 393 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.599 individuals who stole hundreds of millions of taxpayer funds by 394 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.880 setting up companies that build state agencies for services they 395 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:54.319 never provided. However, in his opening statement, Walls said the 396 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.480 people of Minnesota have been singled out and targeted by 397 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:02.519 political retribution at an on paralleled scale, which is true, 398 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:08.440 including blocking medicaid reimbursements to our state. Wow, the Trump 399 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.680 administration blocked two hundred and sixty million dollars in Medicaid 400 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:17.880 funding to the state, straining medical providers and poorer patients statewide. 401 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.680 Yes they did, Yeah, they did. While the federal government 402 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.839 has said it will release the funds only after Minnesota 403 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:31.200 submits and implements a comprehensive corrective action plan to address fraud, waste, 404 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:37.519 and abuse, Minnesota has sued, alleging that the congressionally approved 405 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.839 funds are being withheld illegally and are punishing elderly, disabled 406 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:46.680 and veteran patients who rely on Medicare funded community providers 407 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:51.880 for care. Let me be clear, in Minnesota, if you 408 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.160 defraud public programs, if you steal taxpayer money, we'll find you. 409 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.359 We'll prosecute you, We'll convict you, and will throw you 410 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.119 in jail, Walls said in his opening statement. While sitting 411 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.240 near Ellison. During questioning, Mace asked Walls if he had 412 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.240 learned anything from his experience testifying in front of the 413 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.480 committee in January. Walls replied, I did. I learned that 414 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.279 if I didn't speak up, two of my people would 415 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:23.519 be dead. Congresswoman, and I warned you, ooh yeah, he's referring, 416 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.960 of course, to Renee Good and Alex Pretty, who were 417 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:32.920 killed by federal immigration agents in Minneapolis. Yes, sure, yep, 418 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.880 Mace replied by asking what is a woman? This was 419 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.440 her answer, right. 420 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:39.640 Desperate? 421 00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.960 Did you learn that lesson? Do you know what a 422 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:48.359 woman is? Walls answered, I'm the governor of Minnesota. Congresswoman, 423 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.759 I'm not here to be your prop for your obsession. 424 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:54.960 So if you can't define what a woman is, you 425 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.640 certainly can't define what fraud is. 426 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.279 Good God, I'm not playing with you, little girl. 427 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:10.799 She's a mass. She's a mass. Later in the questioning, 428 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.079 she wrote various monetarium percentage figures on a whiteboard and 429 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.839 began questioning Walls about them. When Walls refused once again 430 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.839 to be her prop, she accused him of not being 431 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.599 able to answer basic math questions about fraud in his state. 432 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.319 He then asked her where her state ranked in terms 433 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:32.599 of fraud. Public rankings of fraud in each state vary 434 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.039 due to the many different types of fraud. Did you 435 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:40.640 do you even care about kids in Minnesota? She said, oh, 436 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.440 they ranked near the top and every category. Wall said, 437 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:48.039 where does South Carolina rank? My children are fed, My 438 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.119 children are housed, my children have healthcare, My children have 439 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.680 the best schools. Of course, we know. South Carolina frequently 440 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.519 ranks in the bottom quartile of child well being. Yeah, 441 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.920 thirty eighth overall in the twenty twenty five Kids Count 442 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.559 data book for child wellbeing. 443 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.480 Uh yeah. 444 00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.720 They consistently rank poorly in areas like education forty third, 445 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.799 childcare forty fifth, and general family safety. Often cited as 446 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.720 one of the worst states to raise a family. 447 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.640 Which sucks because we happen to know several South Carolinians 448 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.759 who are raising a family and doing quite well they are. 449 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.400 But by the same measure, Minnesota ranks fifth best in 450 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.880 the US for overall child wellbeing. Yeah, so maybe Mace 451 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.680 is nothing but a lying hypocrite. Uh huh who is 452 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.240 fixated on trans women? 453 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.079 But what about but but it's like no little grind 454 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:49.559 playing with you. 455 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:54.759 I like his succinct answer, yep, I do. It made 456 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.759 me happy. This was fun. 457 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:06.799 Oh. The headline reads a surprising thing happens when conservatives 458 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:11.519 are forced to watch real news, study finds huh. I 459 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:17.720 found this particularly interesting. Podcaster Lucas Bean has been investigating 460 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.240 the Trump cult for some time now on his YouTube 461 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:24.720 and TikTok channels, and his findings, while unsurprising, are proving 462 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:29.359 valuable in light of the administration's recent warmonger okay calling 463 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.359 on a study done by UC Berkeley and Yale, Bean's 464 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.920 recent video shows us what happens when you stop mainlining 465 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:41.359 the propaganda and start engaging with actual journalistic reporting. The findings, 466 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.359 while hopeful in some areas, are definitely a mixed bag. 467 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.319 In a study conducted in twenty twenty two, political scientists 468 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.559 found that when devoted Fox News viewers were exposed to 469 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.079 CNN for just a month, their critical thinking skills sharpened, 470 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.160 leading them to be less susceptible to conspiracy theories and 471 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.200 right wing propaganda. Of the seven hundred and sixty three 472 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.920 Republicans in the survey, the majority of them white men 473 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.960 over fifty, they found that after just a month, even 474 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.400 the most stubborn, most anti LGBTQ plus conservatives started to 475 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.680 see good sense after watching traditional news reporting that didn't 476 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.839 force viewers to draw partisan conclusions imagine right. These viewers 477 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.000 were paid fifteen dollars an hour to watch CNN during 478 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.200 prime time and were quizzed weekly to make sure they 479 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.440 were actually doing their homework and surprise, surprise. It didn't 480 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.559 take long for their views to start changing. They stopped 481 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.480 assuming that reports of Biden's quote unquote stolen election were accurate, 482 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.920 They became less paranoid about voting by mail, and they 483 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:49.599 became more critical of Trump's policies. One month, Lucas Bean reports, 484 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.279 that's all it took to start breaking through decades of propaganda. 485 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:54.839 How about it? How about it? 486 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.480 Right, It's like when you're actually dealing with facts and 487 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:04.480 real people instead of buzz words and AI videos. Yeah, 488 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.079 that wiring in your brain changes. 489 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:13.200 Yeah. It's almost like not allowing things like Fox News 490 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.359 to exist in the first place was a really good policy. 491 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.319 I'm surprised they still let them use the word news. 492 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.680 I am too, because it isn't. 493 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.240 They had to legally stop saying they were news. They 494 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:26.400 had to say they were entertainment. 495 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.759 I know, but they still call themselves news. The study 496 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.000 was the result of a hypothesis by UC Berkeley's David 497 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:40.519 Brookman and Yale's Josh Calla that conservative news outlets were 498 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.799 either under reporting or misreporting Trump's many first term failures. 499 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.160 In the fall of twenty twenty, Trump had majorly bungled 500 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.400 the response to COVID, creating a surge of voter dissatisfaction 501 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.480 that led voters to elect Joe Biden. Fox News viewers, 502 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.799 of course, were encouraged to believe that the results of 503 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.720 the election were stolen. But as the study revealed, the 504 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.039 more you watched heavily slanted part as the news outlets, 505 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.039 the more you're likely to swallow the propaganda on offer, 506 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.200 no matter how ludicrous it might appear. 507 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.480 Right, if you keep shoveling shit into your gullet, you're 508 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.359 going to start developing a taste for it. 509 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.799 Yeah, we're not turning them into an MSNBC or CNN audience, 510 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:33.000 Bruckman said of the study, But they start to realize, 511 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.400 you know, maybe Trump isn't doing as good a job 512 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.240 on handling the coronavirus as I thought. They start to 513 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.440 be aware of some new information and they're not just 514 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.279 rejecting it as fake news. They're saying, I still like Trump, 515 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:51.200 but maybe he could do a better job at this. 516 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.359 That's something right, right. 517 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:01.920 However, there's a depressing catch here. The storys After the 518 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.720 study ended, reviewers reverted to their old habits, and their 519 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.719 old partisan views snapped right back into place. The fear 520 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.559 came back, the lies came back, the loyalty came back. 521 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.760 Being explains again, it's not exactly a shock, but it 522 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.599 does demonstrate how powerful propaganda can be when it's disguised 523 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.719 as old fashioned common. 524 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.480 Sense, right, and that is a disguise. 525 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.679 Yes, one month of reality wasn't enough to break the 526 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.039 Fox News machine, and a poll in twenty twenty three 527 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.119 found that a majority of Republicans held on to their 528 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.480 beliefs about Biden stealing the election, despite having zero evidence 529 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:38.440 to prove it. 530 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.760 Right. If anyone stole an election, well it wasn't Biden. 531 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.840 So how can we hope to break people out of 532 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.559 the Trump cult? The good news is people already seem 533 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.960 to be doing that of their own accord, even with 534 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.119 Fox News spinning its propaganda steadily. The reality is that 535 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.199 Trump troops are already breaking ranks, with major figures like 536 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.840 Megan Kelly, Nick Fuentes, and Alex Jones suddenly turning on 537 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.880 the once worshiped figure. And if those people can break 538 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.400 away from the Trump cult, there's hope for everyone, and 539 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.679 we are seeing more and more of them. None of 540 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.760 them wanted to go to war. They did believe in 541 00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.599 this whole America first, saying, even though that was always 542 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.840 a joke where this one was concerned, they are turning 543 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.679 on him left, right, and sideways and good. Yeah, so 544 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:34.920 I have so much good news. I want to take 545 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.320 a break and come back and talk about more of that. Okay, 546 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:58.480 we'll be right back, and we're back. 547 00:35:58.840 --> 00:35:59.719 We're bad. 548 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:06.360 You know. That's one more story that leaves me to ponder, 549 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:15.280 how do we repair the relationships destroyed, you know, by propaganda, 550 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.320 lies and utter nonsense, And. 551 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.639 Can they be repaired? I don't know, because there's a 552 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:25.559 lot of people that are like, you know, I encourage 553 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.280 you to have a change of heart. I you know, 554 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.840 can forgive you, but that in the sense of like, yeah, but. 555 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.719 Only if you acknowledge it. First of all, you know, 556 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.039 they would have to acknowledge you know, Hey, I joined 557 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:43.000 a cult for a while. 558 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:44.119 Well, right, that's what I'm saying. 559 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:49.960 I believed megalize about people I love and should know 560 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.840 better and like, but how does that even happen? 561 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.280 Well, there are people that are having these these changes 562 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.239 of heart and come to Jesus moments, and people in 563 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:04.280 their lives are like, that's cute and all, but your repentance, 564 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.519 your change behavior needs to be at least as long 565 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.719 as the amount of time you tortured us with your. 566 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.280 Bullshit exactly exactly, So until then, I mean, you know, 567 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.119 I have someone in mind as I asked that question, right, 568 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:25.880 who you know, the closest person to me biologically anyway? Right, 569 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:30.119 you know, escorted themselves out of my life based on 570 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:35.800 a whole string of lies, right, and believing them, you know, 571 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.239 and believing them and I was the problem. And I 572 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.599 just I'd love to know what the way back is, 573 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:43.199 if there ever is one. 574 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.519 Well, because I think of do O Hughgley when he said, 575 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.239 your apology needs to be as loud as your action. 576 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.519 How about it? 577 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.360 So you need to this you're a true apology and 578 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:59.679 I've been saying this. A true apology looks like sustained 579 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.119 changed behavior, agreed, And that sustained change behavior needs to 580 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:10.039 last at least as long as the offense before we 581 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:13.679 talk about reconciliation. I can forgive you, I can say 582 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.519 I forgive you, but that doesn't mean you're allowed at 583 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:17.760 my house for thanksgiving. 584 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.440 Right, forgiveness does not necessarily mean we forget exactly, or yeah, 585 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.440 or change the boundaries, right, Yeah, I certainly don't have 586 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.480 an answer to it, but I really do wonder. Let's 587 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.440 let's just say sanity ultimately prevails. I have midterm elections 588 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.639 and they go the way pretty much all of us 589 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.920 know that they will, right and should. So let's say 590 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.000 that the Democrats take over the House and the Senate. 591 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.880 You know that that will be a sea change, and 592 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:53.480 of course this, you know, I think impeachment follows immediately. 593 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.559 I think they all know that. I think that's you know, 594 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.440 part of the chaos being sent our way. But let's say, 595 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.639 just let's just for a moment, say we wind up 596 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.639 in a sane world again, right, all the damage that 597 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.199 one person did well, and all the people that supported 598 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.719 it and made money from it, and all the people 599 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.159 that you know, produce things like Fox News, I mean, 600 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.119 all the families that have been destroyed, and I know several, 601 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.679 do we ever find common ground? The question? 602 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.599 It is a question, and I think it behooves us 603 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:35.880 to resist the temptation to be sore winners. 604 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:41.599 Right, that's fair, that's fair, But they're you know, it's 605 00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.360 harder because they are very sore winners. Well, they are 606 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:48.079 the most miserable group of people, even when they're in 607 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:53.840 charge of everything. Right, they are still bitterly unhappy and 608 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.599 constantly attacking people who've never done a thing to them. 609 00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.960 That's what they do, that's their thing, right, And it's like, 610 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.480 uh yeah, so it's incumbent on us to be nice 611 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:14.360 about it, right, Okay, I'll try, assuming it happens, I'll try, right, 612 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:15.800 I'll try to be gracious. 613 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.039 Well, it's like all of a sudden, all their problems 614 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.480 weren't mysteriously taken away because the guy they voted for 615 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.280 who promised these things got into office. 616 00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:33.239 You know, I'm gonna say this. We hadn't recovered from 617 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:38.400 the damage Saint Reagan did to this country before Trump 618 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.000 got elected. We had never fully returned to sanity. Right, 619 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:44.400 there's still shit. 620 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.360 We were the closest we'd ever been during Obama's administration. 621 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.519 Yes we were, but he still couldn't get done everything 622 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.719 he wanted to do because once again, the American people 623 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:56.159 are fickle as fuck and racist as fuck. And you know, 624 00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:59.920 the midterms and they actively wiped away as a bill 625 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.960 to do much of anything. And we had Mitch McConnell promising. 626 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.320 Right, they were going to block everything he wanted to. 627 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.000 Do, no matter what it was, no matter how good 628 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.119 it might be for the American people because he said it, 629 00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.599 we reject it, right, and they took away his Supreme 630 00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.880 Court vote and got away with it. 631 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.559 He could have said, I'm going to personally visit every 632 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.039 home in the country and hand you fifty dollars cash 633 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:22.719 and a puppy. 634 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.760 Yeah, they took away Nope, his vote and a vote 635 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.679 that you know should have been Biden's. It's gross. Yeah, 636 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.320 it's really gross. But you know, they don't play fair anymore, 637 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.320 and I think, you know, as we move forward, we've 638 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.519 got to just be really well aware of that. So, yeah, 639 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.239 I want Democrats to continue to play fair. I would 640 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.800 love to see a third party emerge, right, you know, 641 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.079 but that has to start from the ground up. That 642 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.960 can't We can't do that during in the middle of 643 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:51.880 a national election. 644 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.960 We should already be hearing about these parties so that 645 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.719 when the election comes around, oh, we have like candidates 646 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:03.440 from these third parties that are making away. But folks 647 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.000 don't want to start getting mad and putting their fist 648 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.039 in the air until like October third. 649 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.360 And shit, Yeah, I know, it's an interesting time to 650 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:17.400 be alive, I guess. But you know, the damage that 651 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:19.480 Trump has done. I don't know if we ever recover 652 00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.920 from and maybe it is time for somebody else on 653 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.119 the globe to take the reins and be the superpower, 654 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.239 because we sure as hell have sucked it up left 655 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.159 right and say well so, yeah, maybe somebody else will 656 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.039 do a better job. Maybe somebody else can do a 657 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:33.360 more peaceful job. I don't know. 658 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.239 Again, when Germany is the voice of reason, I know, 659 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.079 I hear you, and they have been well, they. 660 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:49.159 Learned from their mistakes, at least in part overall, you know, 661 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:53.440 where we have these jackasses who really don't grasp what 662 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.679 that even was walking around with swastickers. Yeah, you know, 663 00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.760 because our education system is abysmal. 664 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.039 Yeah, Ms Merkle. She was the leader of the free 665 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:05.760 world like back in the day. 666 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.480 I know, I know, and had no stomach for Trump. 667 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:10.800 Nope. 668 00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.159 Yeah, I don't know where it's headed. I really don't. 669 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:19.719 And and I just it's a shame that we allowed this, 670 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.559 and of course Republicans pushed for it because they've had 671 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:24.719 this agenda all along. 672 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:25.320 You know. 673 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:30.159 They feed racism, they feed sexism, they feed homophobia, they 674 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.559 feed transphobia, and then they call us the ones who 675 00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:38.679 are insisting on identity politics. Leave us the fuck alone. 676 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.679 That would be my politics, you know what, that would 677 00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:45.400 be my platform. Stay out of my life, right, I'll 678 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.679 stay out of yours. But as long as you're not 679 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.440 doing hard right, they can't, No, they can't. And it's 680 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.199 so ironic because I'm old enough to know that they 681 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.719 were the Party of small government. They were allegedly the 682 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.760 party of less government interference, the party of more freedoms. 683 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.199 And you know America first, remember that that went away 684 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.400 Jesus Christ in months, right. 685 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.840 I was just thinking about there's a woman we've been 686 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.960 following on on social media, Sonya Norwood. 687 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.519 Yes, yes, she is making her stuff for you. 688 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:25.800 Yeah, yes, she is a I just told her online. 689 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.280 I said, you're my favorite kind of person. You are fabulous, 690 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:33.280 you are smart, and you are silly as hell. So 691 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:37.320 during Black History we discovered her because she was resurrecting 692 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.920 forgotten uh I think she called them, yeah, lost and 693 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.880 forgotten Black American recipes. 694 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:48.119 Yes, and I made you vinegar pie. 695 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.760 Yes, which was quite good. And I was like, well, 696 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.239 since we're on that, here, try this, try this, try this. 697 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.960 Anyway, I was looking bean pie is next. I'm excited 698 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.079 about being I already know I like bean pie. Well, 699 00:44:59.119 --> 00:44:59.679 then then we go. 700 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.280 But I was looking into her other content and she 701 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.519 had posted this video. It was it was a story 702 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.920 about some little itty bitty podunk spot in like Kansas 703 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.760 or Wyoming or Kentucky or someplace where white people were 704 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.880 building their own town for whites only, okay, And there 705 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.679 was a guy, no culture, right, there was a guy 706 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.360 who was like, you know, how come black people don't 707 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.039 ever think to do this? Like, if if y'all ever 708 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.280 did this, we would support it, we would encourage it. 709 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.719 And then the rest of the video was her talking 710 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:39.280 about every historically, like let's go back to Oklahoma, right, 711 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.360 every black town and settlement in Central Park, right that 712 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.440 rose to any kind of prominence and was completely self 713 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:51.840 sustained and and you know, thriving on the black dollar. 714 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.159 And that's it, right, And how long it took before 715 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.519 white folks were like, we get and then destroyed it 716 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:00.039 in some. 717 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.840 Capacity, we must burn it down. 718 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:11.920 Yes, the common thread was fire water, right, Yeah, all 719 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:13.480 the elements, basically. 720 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.559 All the elements, okay. 721 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.920 Like first of course, you talked about you know, Tulsa, 722 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.079 Black Wall Street. Then she talked about village. She talked 723 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.760 about Seneca Village and how that became Central Park and 724 00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.559 all these other places that I didn't know about where 725 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.000 they were like, you know, flooded or they the people 726 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.960 the government knew that there was like a flood coming 727 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.199 into the area, and they conveniently forgot to tell the 728 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.599 black people in this town. 729 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.000 Isn't that the ninth word? 730 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:48.159 And they got flooded out? 731 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.800 I mean they told them, but no, that was still. 732 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:57.519 That was conveniently not bothering to upgrade the levee system. 733 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.039 It was still water, right, and it still ain't what 734 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.679 it was correct right right. 735 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:08.159 So it's you know, that whole thing about we'll support 736 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.760 black people if you know, you decide to pull yourself 737 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.320 up by your bootstraps quote unquote and find your own 738 00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:18.599 your own towns and things. 739 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:23.519 That's bullshit his history, I know, unless you look like 740 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:28.679 you figured it out and you're succeeding. And uh, that 741 00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:34.639 bothers us, not me, But yeah, it does bather bothers 742 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.440 out of a lot of white people, uh, to the 743 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.400 point of genocide. But what else was Oklahoma? Truly? 744 00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:44.599 Exactly? 745 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.840 Yeah? How about it? How about it? How do we 746 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:51.519 get there? Well, you were saying we were following her, 747 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.239 and you know she has she was talking about this 748 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.360 little podunktwn. She's in Texas by the way. 749 00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.719 Oh, that explains the accent. 750 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.599 She was talking about this little podunk white town and 751 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:03.440 whye don't black. 752 00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:03.760 People do this? 753 00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.280 Well, every time black people do that. 754 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:06.719 But how do we get there? 755 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:08.840 You'll destroy it? 756 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:11.599 Oh, minding your own business? 757 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.440 Is that how we got there? Yes, okay, that's how 758 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:20.360 we got I didn't even know. I did say my 759 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.920 mind's your business, there's my politics, right, stay out of 760 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.920 my life. All that to say, yeah, you know I, 761 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.679 to me, it should not be such a radical proposition 762 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.519 that I fucking know myself better than you ever can 763 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.960 anyone else. And you know, I have known who I 764 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.079 was since I was a small child, as most of 765 00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.880 us do. And I knew that I was trans. I 766 00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:46.800 didn't have the word. I mean, I have had the word, 767 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.719 but I knew how I was. I knew it was 768 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.559 in no way congruent to what they were trying to sell. 769 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:01.840 And that's true for all of us, all of us. 770 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:08.880 And so you know, it boggles my mind that people 771 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:13.639 can look around and say that they know themselves, their 772 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.760 minds are sound right, But because I'm different from them, 773 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:22.480 because I function differently because I am somehow something they 774 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:27.039 can't comprehend, which is bullshit. I just I don't deserve 775 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.679 to live, right, Like what. 776 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:31.840 Yeah, it don't make no sense. 777 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.400 Yeah, so I would love to get back to live 778 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.400 and let live as a as a thing. And that 779 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:41.320 was a Republican thing, right, that was a Republican thing? 780 00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.480 Or is James Brown said, don't start? Well? Yeah? 781 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:46.440 Right? 782 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:49.559 So, and I'm going to make a bean pie that 783 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.280 came out of that whole conversation too. I bought the 784 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.559 pie crust. I don't. I don't. I should make some 785 00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.079 pie crust at some point, but it's been a minute 786 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.000 because I discovered pre made pie cross and I went, 787 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.760 it's not any worse than I mean, it's as good 788 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.360 as mine as far as I'm concerned, right, and it 789 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.000 you know, I take it out of the refrigerator when 790 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.880 I want to make a bye. So anyway, but I 791 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.760 have the navy beans. She's amazing. We should link to 792 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:21.360 her content. 793 00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:22.159 Sure. 794 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.800 She would be a fun conversation. 795 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.519 Oh my god, she would be. 796 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.920 A really fun conversation and we could talk about recipes 797 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.639 and whatever else she wanted to talk about. 798 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:34.960 I'm down. 799 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:43.400 Yeah, Yeah, she's fabulous. Sonya, nor would anytime, anytime, anytime, 800 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.559 we need to have that conversation. That would be a blast. 801 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.800 Moving on, trans Girl Scouts have sold in excess of 802 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.639 three hundred and thirty thousand boxes of cookies in a 803 00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:02.159 public outpouring of support. It's the highest in the history 804 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.400 of Erin in the Mornings Trans Girl Scout Cookie List. 805 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.480 She's been doing this for a bit five years ago, 806 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.039 as the legislation first began spreading. Aaron started this. She 807 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.000 started thinking about the trans kids caught in the middle 808 00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.719 of all this nonsense, transgender children suddenly facing a wave 809 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.159 of hostility simply for existing, And that year she started 810 00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:30.079 something small in response, a trans Girl Scout cookie list. 811 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.519 At that point, she only had three Scouts on the list, 812 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:39.920 and the Internet responded immediately, helping them sell out their 813 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:44.199 entire quota. And every year since the list has been 814 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.800 made again again Aaron Reid, and every year it has 815 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:50.800 grown larger. I want to sit down and talk to 816 00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.119 Aaron Reid too. I just I feel like she's too 817 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.320 busy trying to protect all of us, But I really 818 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.119 would love to sit and have a conversation with Aaron Reid. 819 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:01.800 We missed the girl Scout cookie window didn't we I 820 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:04.440 did we entirely? I don't know. 821 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.320 I don't know either. 822 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:05.880 But if we. 823 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.280 Didn't, I want something because last year I got to 824 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:09.920 go next door. 825 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.199 I know, last year we bought from our next door 826 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.119 neighbor's daughter. You can't go knock on the door well 827 00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:17.880 because it was we had someone snow. 828 00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.760 But if we didn't miss it. Anyway, that's that's what 829 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.800 you think of the Skout cookies. That's where you're going. Yeah, anyway. 830 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.400 The list included two hundred and twenty transgender Girl Scouts participating, 831 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.079 and together they have already sold more than three hundred 832 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.519 and thirty thousand boxes of cookies, and the number is 833 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:46.639 climbing by the minute. One Scout hoping to fund a 834 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.679 troop trip to Alaska April twelve. Okay, so you can 835 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.440 knock next door right, Yes, sold twenty five hundred boxes 836 00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:00.800 of cookies. Anyway, This is cool. This is a wonderful response. 837 00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.480 You know, this is a way that people can enjoy 838 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:10.639 wonderful Girl Scout cookies and take a stand, you know, 839 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:14.199 and say I do support trans kids and say you know, 840 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.000 it's not my business, and say they deserve to live 841 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:25.519 and thrive. Just like anyone else. So I think it's amazing. 842 00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:29.400 I think I love that it keeps growing. And you know, 843 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:34.000 it's one more example. And I use this in talks, 844 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.280 but we've used it here. God knows how many times 845 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:42.159 when you are feeling lost and dejected, look to the responses, 846 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.320 look to how folks are responding. And this is just 847 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:51.400 one way you know that people are showing that they 848 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:57.679 support you know, trans girls. It's amazing, it's a great cause. 849 00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:04.599 And they're delicious cookies. Love them, right, Yeah, And it 850 00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:08.840 sends a powerful message that hates not going to ultimately win. 851 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.280 So you have until April what April twelve, April twelfth, 852 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:18.559 until April twelfth, and we'll link to Aaron's list erin 853 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.719 in the morning, and you can still buy Girl Scout 854 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:27.599 cookies from the atreans Girl Scout and send a message. 855 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.840 Lemonades and thin mints. 856 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:34.360 A good one, they're yours. Yes, I love caramel delights. 857 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.400 I also love those and the. 858 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.639 Peanut butter one. Yes, the peanut butter sandwich cookies are 859 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:45.440 probably my favorite ist ever. I love those. 860 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:47.480 Me too. 861 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:53.480 Yeah, they're all good. Yeah, they'll buy some Girls Cut cookies. Yeah, No, 862 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.599 one doesn't like Girl Scout cookies exactly. And I love 863 00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:59.079 that this is happening. I love that Aaron Reid keeps 864 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.960 doing it. And more than three hundred and thirty thousand, 865 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.719 I don't even know what that number is now this 866 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.039 is probably a week old, but good on everyone, I'm 867 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.960 too lazy to look it up. Moving on. This is 868 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.679 out of the New York Times. The New York Attorney 869 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:24.239 General has ordered Nyu Langon to resume youth transgender care. 870 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:29.480 Yeh good, good good. 871 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:33.360 Yeah, because Nyu was the latest among many who were 872 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:38.119 willing to capitulate to Trump's whims that have no basis 873 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.800 in science or reality. And they close their transgender youth 874 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.800 health program, jeopardizing the life and well being of many 875 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:53.199 children because the federal government threatened to pull federal funding 876 00:55:54.679 --> 00:56:02.679 from hospitals that provided gender transition treatments for adolescens. Yeah. However, 877 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.840 in a letter to the hospital as, a senior official 878 00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:10.320 in the Attorney General's office raised the question of whether 879 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.079 n Yu Langoun's action violated New York's anti discrimination laws 880 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.199 by barring a single category of patients from receiving medications 881 00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:25.719 that others could access. That official, Darsana Srinivasan, oh, thank you. 882 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:30.079 Who leads the office's healthcare bureau, wrote in the letter 883 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:34.599 that puberty blockers and hormone treatments remained available to pediatric 884 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:40.679 patients who were not transgender. Uh huh. New York state 885 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.320 laws prohibit discrimination based on a patient's membership and a 886 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:49.440 protected class, she wrote. The letter states that the Attorney 887 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.679 General's Office had received several complaints from patients and their 888 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:58.360 families regarding this decision. You are hereby advised to immediately 889 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:03.920 resume all service office rings as they had before the 890 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:08.519 change in policy, and to make medically necessary puberty blocking 891 00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:14.400 medications and hormone therapies available for patients under nineteen who 892 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:19.239 are diagnosed with gender dysphoria. It say February twenty fifth letter. 893 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:24.360 It was addressed to Nyu Langun's top lawyer, and it 894 00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:28.480 instructs the hospital to notify the Attorney General's Office that 895 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:33.920 it had complied within ten days work. Yeah, of course, 896 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:37.519 my lingoon declined to comment. 897 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:38.519 Shocker. 898 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:43.599 Yeah, this is the office, of course of Letitia James, 899 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:45.039 the Attorney General. 900 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:46.159 Ha. 901 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.559 I know who is another black woman I am in 902 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:50.039 love with? 903 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:50.639 Right? 904 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:52.000 Who ain't afraidio? 905 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:53.840 Right? 906 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:59.599 It left them in a difficult position. Of course, you know, 907 00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.119 this is an ugly mess of things, but it's healthcare. 908 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.800 It's healthcare, and I'm like you, lingo. And of course 909 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.960 hosts Nancy Wristbondlanger, who is one of you know, the 910 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:16.519 East Coast premiere gender firm insurgents. Not for children, of course, 911 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.599 but you know, are you gonna what stop treating all 912 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:22.199 of us? 913 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:22.599 Right? 914 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:23.519 Where's she going? 915 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:24.920 Like? 916 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.840 I don't know. We're going to follow this. We'll see 917 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.119 what happens next, and of course we'll talk about it. 918 00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.880 But that was good news that there was a swift 919 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:39.719 response that said, knock it off, stop complying in advance, 920 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:44.599 because they're responding to a threat. It hasn't happened. And 921 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.639 even if it does happen, you know, then shine the 922 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.159 light on that they are willing to They're willing to 923 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:53.800 fuck with cancer research. They've done it. They're willing to 924 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:59.400 screw with anyone who doesn't feed their their ridiculous ideology. 925 00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.480 And yet they call us the ones that haven't I 926 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.440 a gender ideology? What the is gender ideology? 927 00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:06.679 By the way, good ass question? What is that I've 928 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.400 been wondering this whole time? What is it? 929 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.119 Y'all? Have an ideology that says I don't deserve to live. 930 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:18.400 My ideology is I'd like to live. Is that gender ideology? 931 00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:18.840 I don't know. 932 00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.800 That's not so much an ideology is just self preservation. 933 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:28.239 Right, Like what you know, water's wet, Some kids are trans, 934 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:32.960 some kids are queer, and those who cannot accept themselves 935 00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.000 should shut the fuck up and sit down. Seems clear 936 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:36.280 to me. 937 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.679 Right, And as my father used to always say, self 938 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.559 preservation is the first law of nature. 939 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.679 So I'm just saying though, you know, like, what what 940 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.800 the fuck? What the fuck the ideology? And that's the 941 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:54.559 problem with right now is the words mean nothing, you know, right, 942 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.000 they keep lobbing them at us as weapons, the opposite 943 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.840 of what they actually mean. Well, they do, like the 944 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.960 pedophile thing, exactly what they accuse right us of doing. 945 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:14.360 Ironies apparently still alive and well, because alive and kicking, 946 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.039 let's talk about all the pedophiles. Yeah, there is a 947 01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:23.119 pedophile ring running the world. They're just not democrats. Nope, 948 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:30.480 So yeah, let's deal with that. Moving on, We're going 949 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.119 to follow that story though and see where it lands. Okay, 950 01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:39.679 there was an unexpected announcement that took center stage at 951 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.880 the gala that celebrated the fiftieth anniversary of Philadelphia Gay News. 952 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.920 You were honored at the forty ninth I well, I yes. 953 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.920 As on their march up to their fiftieth anniversary in 954 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.639 twenty twenty five, they did name the forty nine most 955 01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.960 influential leaders within the LGBTQ plus community, and I was 956 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:02.960 in fact one of them. 957 01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:03.239 Yes. 958 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:08.000 Anyway, they had their fiftieth anniversary gala. There is millions 959 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.119 of dollars in funding from state and local governments on 960 01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:15.840 their way to benefit the Community Center and the Attic 961 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:20.239 Youth Center. Not sure how they reimagine that, but they did. 962 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.039 It's important that we continue to make forward progress, not 963 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:26.239 just to stand up against the bullies, not just to 964 01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:30.000 fight back against the insensitivity of those who would want 965 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.760 to whitewash our shared history, said Josh Shapiro, but rather 966 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:40.440 to continue to play offense and make progress, to remember 967 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.920 our values and live up to the vision that others 968 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.920 have fought to create for us. The Shapiro administration has 969 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.159 committed two million dollars toward the renovation of the Wayamway 970 01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:57.679 Center in Philadelphia. They will apparently remain at thirteen fifteen 971 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:01.159 Spruce Street, where they have been since night ninety six. 972 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.000 Mark Siegel said during his remarks that it will be 973 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:09.920 a brand new building, larger than it is now, with 974 01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:16.159 forty new LGBTQ plus friendly affordable housing units for seniorears. 975 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.239 So another iteration of the John C. Anderson apartments right 976 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.079 above the community Center. It is estimated that there will 977 01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:31.360 be fifty percent more usable and accessible space with the 978 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:34.119 new building. So they are tearing down a historic building 979 01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:37.840 to build this new building. That seems clear, even though 980 01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.280 a lot of it was ambiguous. Because I have been 981 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:42.719 talking to some Philly folks about this whole thing. 982 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:44.639 I know it felt like the story kept changing. 983 01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:49.079 Well, it does keep changing. Yeah, it's still not crystal clear. 984 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:50.199 There's still some mudd in here. 985 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.800 It's for sale, it's not it's moving, it's not right. 986 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:57.719 Yeah. Anyway, for the last year, very quietly, a whole 987 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.599 group of people have been working underground. Right now. I 988 01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.320 want to thank you all for being very quiet while 989 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.679 we've been doing it, Siegel said as he recognized co 990 01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:15.239 collaborators including Judge Dan Anders, Senator Nikhil Saval, Representative Ben Waxman, 991 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:19.960 and councilmember Mark Squilla, as well as Dave Hooting and 992 01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:24.719 Laura Ryan, co chairs of the William Way Center. About 993 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:27.320 a year and a half ago, we've realized our community 994 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.320 center was in disarray, to say the least, and we 995 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.039 wanted to do something about it, Siegel said. So, thanks 996 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:38.000 to the gentlemen and women I just mentioned, we are 997 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.159 now on the ground floor of reinventing the William Way 998 01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:46.320 Community Center. This has been all over the damn map, 999 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.480 it's been. It's been a bunch of this and then 1000 01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:54.000 the other thing. They lost their funding that was supposed 1001 01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:56.239 to be coming through the federal government. 1002 01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:59.679 They lost their programming. Oh look they have new programs. 1003 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:01.440 Oh wait, when does that happen again? 1004 01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:04.639 Yeah, exactly all of that. You know. There was a 1005 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:09.360 twenty twenty two design that had a whole plan to it, 1006 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:14.320 but again that did not come to truition. The campaign 1007 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.199 did not and could not meet its funding goals. It 1008 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:23.159 increased costs for repairs, made the dream feel unattainable. Yeah. 1009 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:26.800 So anyway, one of the co chairs said, we hope 1010 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:29.639 in the future, as a community, we can use this 1011 01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:34.000 opportunity to build each other up. In a very diverse community. 1012 01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:37.400 We are stronger together. That would be nice, That would 1013 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.760 be nice, wouldn't it, Because you've got people running their 1014 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.679 mouths who on your behalf who do not speak in 1015 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:47.480 that regard. Good to see it happen. If it happens, 1016 01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:50.039 it has been chaotic. But you know, I like that 1017 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:54.239 the announcement came. I like that Dan Andrews is involved. 1018 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.440 I like that the governor spoke because that tells me 1019 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.440 that maybe we're finally onto something that will happen. And 1020 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.880 Philadelphia certainly deserves a community center and most importantly, those 1021 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:05.800 archives need to be preserved. 1022 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:06.199 Correct. 1023 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:10.719 Yeah, many community members, of course don't want to see 1024 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:14.760 the building come down. They were previously concerned about a 1025 01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.920 possible loss of the Pride and Progress mural, which is 1026 01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:22.639 on the side of that building and depicts our LGBTQ 1027 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:26.599 plus history and Joey the property staying within the care 1028 01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:31.920 of the queer community, and final details about the design 1029 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:37.239 will allegedly be decided with community input. We're going to see, 1030 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:41.159 We're going to see what comes next. And there is 1031 01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:45.880 a second new partner, Help Development Corporation, and nonprofit developer 1032 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:51.679 that focuses solely on affordable housing, which has completed projects 1033 01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.960 in Philadelphia. Help Development Corporation has also finished a project 1034 01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:00.119 that serves as a model for the new building, a 1035 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.719 Pride House in New York City which features more than 1036 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.960 eighty LGBTQ plus friendly residential units, sage offices, and a 1037 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:13.360 rooftop community center. The money will come from various sources, 1038 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:18.920 including funds already earmarked to the Center for previous renovation plans, 1039 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:23.280 plus other state and local resources such as housing tax credits. 1040 01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:25.920 We're going to see, We're going to see how this 1041 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:28.800 Some of the money could be coming from Mayor Cherrell 1042 01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.639 parkers to billion dollar housing initiative. 1043 01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:33.519 I think it should. 1044 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.119 Yeah, I think so too. She hopes to deliver thirty 1045 01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.239 thousand affordable housing units over the next four years. So 1046 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.360 she did say at the gala that the City of 1047 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:48.800 Philadelphia is in full support of the building project. Cool 1048 01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:57.039 the building has been closed or semi closed. There has 1049 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:01.599 been very little staff doing any damn thing. Yep, it's 1050 01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:05.599 been a mess, and I guess we'll see what happens. 1051 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:09.800 Governor Shapiro also committed to investing two and a half 1052 01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.199 million dollars to the Attic Youth Center, which provides a 1053 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:17.960 gathering place, counseling and organized activities, life skills programming, and 1054 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.840 other resources to young people fourteen to twenty three in 1055 01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.960 the Philadelphia area, and you were one of those beneficiaries 1056 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.719 as a young person. The money is to help the 1057 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.679 Attics serve more of our use and expand their impact 1058 01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:39.159 all across Pennsylvania. The new executive director, Jasper Liam of 1059 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:42.079 the Attic Youth Center said the organization is not ready 1060 01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:46.559 to make announcements about the funding. Their fiftieth anniversary is 1061 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.880 certainly news, and they made some news with these announcements, 1062 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.280 and I thought we should put them here in good 1063 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.880 news because indeed, if it happens, there's been a lot 1064 01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.199 of bits and starts here, and yeah, precarious involved, but 1065 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.039 if it does happen, that'd be great. 1066 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:05.840 It would be great, It really would. 1067 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:11.719 The Philly Pride Visitor Center so opened its doors ahead 1068 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.559 of America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. 1069 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:16.359 And it was a big to do. 1070 01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:20.560 It was a big to do. Philly Pride Visitors Center 1071 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:26.079 is on Locust Street, just off of twelve, so it's 1072 01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:28.479 it's knocks back room basically. 1073 01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:29.039 Yeah. 1074 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:33.840 Yeah, just past the restaurant was the back room where 1075 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:40.000 the piano sat, and they rented that section out to 1076 01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:41.359 become the Visitor Center. 1077 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:43.960 And that's kind of awesome, how about that. 1078 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:48.640 Yeah. It is a partnership between the Philadelphia Visitor Center, 1079 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:54.199 Visit Philadelphia, Visit PA, and Philadelphia Gay News. It is 1080 01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:58.439 designed to serve as both a welcoming hub for LGBTQ 1081 01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:03.239 plus travelers and a gateway to the community's history in 1082 01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:08.479 a city where much of that history began. So it's 1083 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:14.840 cool it happened there was a ribbon cutting. Governor Shapiro 1084 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.560 against that. At a time when other states are walking 1085 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:23.079 away from their LGBTQ plus community, we are walking toward it. 1086 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:27.920 Pennsylvania is a place that is warm and welcoming for all. 1087 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:33.199 Yeah. And I was watching all the videos and things 1088 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.840 on social media from the ribbon cutting, and it looked 1089 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.079 like everyone was there. Yeah, it was very cool. A 1090 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:40.840 lot of people we know. 1091 01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:44.960 Oh yeah, there's not really much more to say. It's 1092 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.760 open Thursday through Monday from noon to six pm. Here 1093 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.800 you go, and when you're there and stop and have 1094 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.680 a drink or lunch or dinner at Knock, which is 1095 01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.840 right next door. Right with all the ugliness happening everywhere else, 1096 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:06.239 I love seeing that Philadelphia is still supporting and moving forward. 1097 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:06.880 Agreed. 1098 01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:10.319 This next one. I think you shared. 1099 01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:12.840 Yeah, there's a gay activist who wants to put up 1100 01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:17.199 cameras for twenty four hour surveillance of the Stonewall Monuments. 1101 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:17.600 Okay. 1102 01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:21.000 The campaign comes after the National Park Service remove the 1103 01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.039 monument's pride flag in the dead of night. Last month. 1104 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:30.680 Michael Petrellis, an LGBTQ activist and co founding member of 1105 01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:36.399 Act Up, launched a GoFundMe campaign for the project, wanting 1106 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:39.560 to raise funds for cameras to monitor the pride flag 1107 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.680 at the Stonewall National Monument. They're looking to raise five 1108 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.039 thousand dollars to purchase five cameras that are cost of 1109 01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.399 one thousand dollars each and to cover the streaming costs. 1110 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:52.199 The cameras, he says, will be installed on private homes 1111 01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.479 and small businesses around Christopher Park, a small park adjacent 1112 01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:59.279 to the Stonewall Inn in New York Sprettage Village. 1113 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.880 He said the recent removal of the Progress pride flag 1114 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.079 at the Stonewall National Monument happened without a single private 1115 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.079 camp focused on the flagpole. His goal is to install 1116 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.439 cameras to monitor the flagpole itself as well as the 1117 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.760 entrances to Christopher Park twenty four hours a day. That way, 1118 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:24.239 all future visits to Christopher Park, which comprises the heart 1119 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:27.399 of the monument, by any federal worker, will be recorded 1120 01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:30.239 on video that we control. 1121 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:32.279 Good. 1122 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.560 None of the cameras will be installed on federal land. 1123 01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:41.600 This way, the community always controls the streaming. Nice, according 1124 01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:45.199 to the campaign. According to the Advocate, the owners of 1125 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.399 the stonewall in which sits right across the street from 1126 01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:52.159 the monument and as privately owned, have not commented on 1127 01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:55.319 the campaign or indicated whether they would allow a camera 1128 01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:58.920 to be installed on their property. There is a GoFundMe 1129 01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:03.399 involved in the plan. I think they're about halfway there, right, 1130 01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:05.039 I mean, if they're going to do this kind of 1131 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.319 shit and desecrate our park, like, we'll have one film 1132 01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:14.199 that part, we can share it. So New Jersey wants 1133 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:18.920 comps to undergo personal biased reviews every five years. 1134 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:19.720 Sounds good to me. 1135 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:25.920 Uh yeah, it really does, I say. This was published 1136 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:31.760 on March the fourth in Short News. I stayed out 1137 01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:33.319 of the comment section of this one. 1138 01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:35.279 Oh it's best that you do, I'm guessing. 1139 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:42.640 Sender. Angela McKnight's proposal aims to identify extremist ties and 1140 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:47.560 prevent discriminatory policing. A new bill in the New Jersey 1141 01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:51.600 Senate would require all state, county, and municipal police departments 1142 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:56.560 to regularly vet law enforcement officers for signs of personal 1143 01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:01.800 bias or extremist affiliations, part of a growing statewide push 1144 01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:08.640 to strengthen accountability and rebuild public trust in policing. Uh huh, 1145 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:11.399 I like it sounds good to be is Senate Bill 1146 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:15.960 s one seven nine four. It mandates a personal bias 1147 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.159 review for all law enforcement officers at hiring and every 1148 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.800 five years thereafter. It includes social media reviews and a 1149 01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:30.920 professionally developed test designed to detect explicit and implicit bias. 1150 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.439 The Attorney General would issue statewide guidelines to implement and 1151 01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:39.199 enforce the program. 1152 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:40.399 Hopefully that becomes a national model. 1153 01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:47.840 YEAH screenings would include a review of all publicly accessible information, 1154 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:52.600 including social media posts or other online activity, to identify 1155 01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:57.439 potential bias, prejudice, or links to extremist groups, and the 1156 01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:02.560 administration of a bias identification test YEAH. The proposal seeks 1157 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:07.920 to ensure that officers with potential extremist sympathies or discriminate 1158 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.079 to weary views are identified early and evaluated before such 1159 01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:17.800 beliefs influence their professional conduct. I'm just going to point 1160 01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:21.399 out that a lot of Proud Boys are also law 1161 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:27.479 enforcement offices yep, at least in this nation, yep. And 1162 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:34.199 that is what this legislation seeks to, you know, avoid How. 1163 01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:36.520 Come you never see the cops showing up to break 1164 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:37.680 up Proud Boys. 1165 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.800 Rally because they're busy in their man. 1166 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.600 For the same reason you never see Clark Kenton Superman 1167 01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:44.159 in the same place at the same time. 1168 01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:49.960 Pretty much, I don't I don't think this is unreasonable. 1169 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:53.119 Well right, I mean, you know, I'm sure we could 1170 01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.800 argue that this will just make them more stealth and 1171 01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:58.640 more cautious. But you know what, good, good good. 1172 01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:01.319 They've been at to be too free and easy with 1173 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:01.920 their bullshit. 1174 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.399 Seriously seriously, and we should not be paying for their 1175 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:10.319 protection when they're only protecting some of us, right, and 1176 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.199 certain ideas, and not others. 1177 01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:15.159 Because if you're only going to protect some of us, 1178 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.319 then only some of us should have to pay taxes. 1179 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:22.399 Well, right, I mean shit right, I think there's a 1180 01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.079 swath of us that shouldn't have to pay taxes now 1181 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.680 and for the next fifty years, because what is that about? 1182 01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:35.520 No taxation without representation. Well thank you anyway. What the 1183 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:37.039 hell is going on with Billy Porter? 1184 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:41.560 Oh yeah, Billy Porter. So the headline reads this from 1185 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.000 out Billy Porter says he's a walking miracle after being 1186 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.239 dead for three days? All right, what is he? 1187 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:49.920 Jesus No, he's dead for three days. 1188 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:54.720 He was suffering from sepsis, Like very seriously, this has 1189 01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:56.119 been an ongoing thing for him. 1190 01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.920 Okay, so was he in like a medically induced coma. 1191 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.159 The Post star appeared on an episode of Outlaws with 1192 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.680 Ts Madison on March fourth. Okay, shit, I'm sure that is. 1193 01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:09.840 I'm gonna check that one out, where he explained how 1194 01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:12.640 a terrifying bout of sepsis nearly ended his life and 1195 01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:14.800 forced him to bow out of his role in Cabaret 1196 01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.079 at the Kitcat Club in September twenty twenty five. I 1197 01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:21.199 remember this. I knew that I checked myself into the hospital, 1198 01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.680 which is Tuesday night, because I'm in so much pain. 1199 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:27.039 I woke up on Saturday night, he remembered. Porter went 1200 01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:29.560 to the hospital for a quote routine check to remove 1201 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.479 a kidney stone trapped in his urethra, but it turned 1202 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:34.720 out that his medical condition was much more serious than 1203 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:37.760 he initially thought. When they got in there, there was 1204 01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:40.359 so much poss and bile and infection behind the stone. 1205 01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.560 He said, it bubbled up and I went eurosceptic in minutes. 1206 01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.399 According to the Cleveland Clinic, eurocepsis is a life threatening 1207 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.079 type of sepsis that begins in your urinary tract and 1208 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.199 happens when a urinary tract infection goes untreated and spreads 1209 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:54.279 to your kidneys. 1210 01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:57.039 Oof, I was on the EKMA machine. 1211 01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:57.600 Uh huh? 1212 01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.279 I was dead for three days. 1213 01:16:59.319 --> 01:16:59.439 Say? 1214 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:03.159 The ekm MA is the machine that breathes for you. 1215 01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:03.760 Right. 1216 01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:07.079 It's a type of life support that pumps blood outside 1217 01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:07.800 of the body. 1218 01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.239 Yes, Achimo, extra corporeal membrane oxygenation. 1219 01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:16.840 Yes to a heart lung machine that removes carbon dioxide 1220 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:22.560 and sends oxygen rich blood back into the body. And often, 1221 01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.520 as I'm as I'm watching more and more of Chicago med, 1222 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:31.159 some folks never get off of achima once. Right, Okay, 1223 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:33.039 So that is what he means by being dead for 1224 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:38.479 three days, a machine was doing the breathing and the 1225 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:39.119 heart beating. 1226 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.439 The fifty six year old actor added that while he 1227 01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:46.119 was comatose, he developed compartment syndrome where the muscles are 1228 01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:49.159 deprived of oxygen, and the doctors had to quote cut 1229 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:51.439 him open on either side of his leg from his 1230 01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:53.920 knee to his hip. Yes, and leave it open for 1231 01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:55.880 two days so that they could save his leg. 1232 01:17:56.039 --> 01:18:00.000 Yes, I've heard of this. Yes again, Chicago man. 1233 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.800 Yeah, I was dead for three days. I'm a miracle. 1234 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.800 I'm a walking miracle. Looking back on the life threatening experience, 1235 01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:08.960 Porter said, I am so grateful to be here. It 1236 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:10.920 is such a gift. 1237 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.119 I love that. I love that he is still with us, 1238 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:17.359 of course, yes, and that he survived that. That that 1239 01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:18.760 was some very serious stuff. 1240 01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:19.279 Yeah. 1241 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:21.399 Yeah, that was some very serious stuff. 1242 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:24.199 And everyone knows my my personal love for Billy Porter. 1243 01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.520 So I am so glad to hear that he is 1244 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.279 on the road to full recovery. 1245 01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:31.600 You're not kidding. That is good news. It is that 1246 01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:36.960 he is doing well. Uh and may he live long 1247 01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:45.039 and prosper. Yes, lord, mm hmmm, it's time yay for 1248 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:47.880 that favorite segment we like to call. 1249 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:54.880 Employ people taking pleasure and nine. 1250 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.159 GoAhead and. 1251 01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.359 So Pam bondy uh huh. 1252 01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:08.199 Yeah. 1253 01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:13.319 Well, the House Oversight Committee voted to subpoena the Attorney 1254 01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:17.000 General to testify about the Justice Department's handling of the 1255 01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:20.800 case against Jeffrey Epstein and the release of its files 1256 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:25.359 on the matter. The twenty four to nineteen vote by 1257 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:28.920 the Republican led panel to force a Cabinet member to 1258 01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:33.520 testify was a rebuke to the Trump administration. 1259 01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:36.279 Get thee behind me, and not in the way you like. 1260 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:37.199 Uh huh. 1261 01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:39.079 Huh. 1262 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:46.079 Over the objection of the Republican chairman of the committee, 1263 01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:50.119 Representative James Comer of Kentucky, five Republicans on the Oversight 1264 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:54.399 Committee joined Democrats to force approval of the subpoena, which 1265 01:19:54.520 --> 01:20:01.960 was introduced actually by Nancy Mace. Lord, you know, I 1266 01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:07.399 don't just my head spinds these days. She offered to 1267 01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:11.039 Bondi offered to brief members of the House Oversight Committee 1268 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.560 on the Justice Department's handling of its investigative material. That 1269 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:19.520 wasn't enough. They moved to force the committee to subpoena Bondi. 1270 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:25.479 And yeah, she don't have to testify, And I like it. 1271 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:33.479 I like it right right, twenty four to nineteen. It's 1272 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:37.319 a rebuke against the Trump administration by members of his 1273 01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:41.279 own party at a time when the Republican control of 1274 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:45.520 Congress has generally marched in lockstep with him. Also the 1275 01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:49.279 second time in the past year that Republican members of 1276 01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:55.079 the Oversight Committee, the House's chief investigative panel, have cross 1277 01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:01.159 party lines to force action around Epstein. Graced financier who 1278 01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:05.279 died in federal custody in twenty nineteen, not by citizen, 1279 01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:08.239 while facing sex trafficking charges. 1280 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:09.279 I like it. 1281 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.319 It's some accountability. And weren't they supposed to have this 1282 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:15.039 shit to us well before? 1283 01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:15.680 Now? Oh? 1284 01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:21.039 Hell, yeah right, and they just haven't. So good good. 1285 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.760 A little accountability among this party is something, right. 1286 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:27.960 It goes a long way, but not far. Yeah. 1287 01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:30.880 So she thought, you know that this was a never 1288 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:33.600 ending gravy chain and no one would, you know, hold 1289 01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:38.279 her to task and she has been and she's yeah, 1290 01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:41.079 she got a test by Andrews so good. 1291 01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:42.199 Good. 1292 01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:51.239 I hope it's uncomfortable as hell. Also, Trump fired Christy 1293 01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:53.479 Noom as the DHS. 1294 01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:54.920 Naming. 1295 01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:58.079 I mean it's it doesn't get better from here because 1296 01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:03.319 he named Mark Wayne Mullin to replace her. So one 1297 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:09.119 joke is replacing another joke. But she out as Homeland 1298 01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:10.239 Security Secretary. 1299 01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:12.399 She's out. 1300 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.720 She will be moving to be special on voided for 1301 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.039 whatever the fuck the Shield of the Americas. 1302 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.520 Their new security they just be making it up. 1303 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:29.800 Is whatever that is, which no one knows she will 1304 01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:35.560 be involved. She's the first Cabinet secretary to leave the 1305 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:40.000 Trump administration in the second term. The announcement comes Afternoons 1306 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.159 spent two days being grilled by lawmakers in Congress over 1307 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:52.920 her leadership. Uh huh mullin, Oh god is a MAGA 1308 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:56.600 warrior and former undefeated professional MMA fighter. 1309 01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:03.159 Yeah, so he's a thick necked over testosterone fool. 1310 01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:08.880 Yeah. He highlighted Mellan's position as the only Native American 1311 01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:14.039 in the Senate. Native American friends have been saying that's 1312 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:16.000 fake news too, so I don't know. 1313 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.640 Yeah, really, come on now, I don't know about that. 1314 01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:22.000 But whatever, he was a wrestler or whatever the fuck 1315 01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:24.159 you MMA sing whatever. 1316 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:27.239 Anyway that means you can punch and kick to the head. 1317 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:31.359 Yeah, they've replaced one idiot with another. I'm not sure 1318 01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:34.239 that things are going to get any better, but it's 1319 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.239 so good to see Hargo, it really is. Yeah, and 1320 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.199 may she live the life she richly deserves. 1321 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:45.039 Or as I said to someone today that has to 1322 01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.439 involve us, I hope you enjoy the life you deserve, 1323 01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.199 and I hope that it is long. 1324 01:23:50.439 --> 01:23:55.840 Right, right. I just hope, you know, what she's done 1325 01:23:55.880 --> 01:24:00.760 to this country maybe gets she enjoys herself. She has 1326 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:05.920 faced bipartisan criticism over her quote unquote leadership of the 1327 01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:11.000 immigration enforcement surge in Minneapolis that was her, where she 1328 01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:15.399 deployed three thousand officers and two US citizens were killed 1329 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.119 by said officers. Some of the loudest voices on the 1330 01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:23.439 right for her resignation have come from Senators Tom Tillis 1331 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:27.439 of North Carolina, not running for reelection, and Lisa Murkowski 1332 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:32.800 of Alaska. Other Republicans have denounced non after she referred 1333 01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:36.319 to thirty seven year old Alex Pretty shot by two 1334 01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:41.920 border patrol agents as a domestic terrorist. Yeah, before any 1335 01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:46.159 investigation had even begun. That's who this. 1336 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:52.399 Lady is. You are right, You need an ask. 1337 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:59.119 Yeah, you know what, whether he gives her some other 1338 01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:01.640 thing to do or not, this is a public humiliation 1339 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:07.000 she richly, richly deserves and has earned. Yeah, and it's 1340 01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:09.640 only been a matter of time. He loves to fire people, 1341 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:13.960 and as his numbers plummet, he's look for more, more 1342 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.199 and more folks to be filed. And we're going to 1343 01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:20.399 keep shuffling idiots. Yep, I would say, on a chessboard, 1344 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:22.600 But there's no chessboard involved. 1345 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:25.560 In any of those. Please, it ain't that deep. Folks 1346 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:27.920 barely checkers anyway. 1347 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:34.079 Both of them are feeling a little uncomfortable tonight, which 1348 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:35.880 I find to be a sweet example of. 1349 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:41.159 Employ people taking pleasure. 1350 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:47.000 Name Yeah, do you have a fifteen minute fave I 1351 01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.239 do for this first episode of season five? 1352 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:51.239 I do? 1353 01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:53.239 Okay, I hope it measures up. 1354 01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:58.119 What is it? So? This is actually a fun song 1355 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.720 that I discovered while I was driving to work listening 1356 01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:04.119 to music that I asked Siri to play that I 1357 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:07.439 would like. Okay, And the song is called de e 1358 01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:11.479 eight and it is by Madeline. And the point of 1359 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:15.960 the song is that we need to spend less time 1360 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:20.880 in our heads on our phones criticizing ourselves, in more 1361 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:23.800 time living because there is going to come a time 1362 01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:28.600 when we're dead, that is true, totally dead. Yeah, so 1363 01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:32.079 we should spend the time that we have actually living our. 1364 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:37.079 Lives, all right, their I love that idea. Yeah, all right, 1365 01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:38.760 So let's go out to the break. 1366 01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:43.399 With dead or Dead by mad Line right past. 1367 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:48.479 Today is today, and I don't feel so great, the 1368 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:52.239 blood starts draining from our face, the moment that I 1369 01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:57.680 start to think about all the things that but then 1370 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:02.119 a simple face comes to luck makes it all feel better, 1371 01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:04.800 Oh so much better. 1372 01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:09.960 Some damn gonna be dead, so dead. 1373 01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:14.319 Time to get out of my head worry just a 1374 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:14.880 little bit. 1375 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:20.520 Less damn gonna be dead, so dead. 1376 01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.439 Time for me to get out of better and face 1377 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:25.760 the existential dread. 1378 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.560 What do do do? Do do do? 1379 01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:29.720 Do? 1380 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:35.880 Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. 1381 01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:40.760 I feel like nothing I'm. 1382 01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:41.319 Doing is right. 1383 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:44.640 I feel like lately I'm wasting my life because I 1384 01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:45.600 got no direction. 1385 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.319 Always I can guessing. Every day I waste a. 1386 01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:51.640 Little more time. Maybe at the moment is coming, it's 1387 01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:56.239 gone and everybody is moving on. I can't stop obsessing. 1388 01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.880 I'm living with attention, which could be what. 1389 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:20.520 No, And we're back. 1390 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:21.840 We're back. 1391 01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:24.399 We're going to try to plow through this as quickly 1392 01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:27.880 as possible. Yippie kaya, it is time. It was a 1393 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:35.159 cavalcade of nonsense since we last recorded. Of course, Kansas 1394 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:38.840 has lost its ever loving, motherfucking mind right, and the 1395 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.960 state legislature, with nothing better to do, and nothing else 1396 01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:48.680 to focus on, decided to take away the driver's license 1397 01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:54.119 of every trans citizen in Kansas. The ACLU, of course, 1398 01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:59.880 immediately filed suit. Jesus Christ, I know they will do 1399 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:07.600 anything but actually hold their pedophiles to account. They will 1400 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:13.800 do anything but actually put themselves in check and admit 1401 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:19.039 we're not the problem, right, so you know, and yet 1402 01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:23.720 another attempt to dehumanize trans people, which is in Kansas. 1403 01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:26.920 I believe it's seventeen eighteen hundred people who are affected. 1404 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:32.800 Let's see, there's so much wrong with this whole story. Yeah, 1405 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:38.359 trans residents across Kansas were receiving letters demanding the immediate 1406 01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:43.199 surrender of the driver's licenses, triggered by a new law 1407 01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:46.800 that had just gone into effect House substitute for Senate 1408 01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.279 Bill two forty four, which immediately invalidated driver's licenses for 1409 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:57.319 transgender people and enacted what may be the harshest bathroom 1410 01:29:57.399 --> 01:30:01.359 ban in the nation. The law and the speed at 1411 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:07.680 which it began impacting people left transgender Kansas scrambling and 1412 01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:15.479 stunned commentators who were unaware of the serious escalation targeting 1413 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:19.960 transgender people in state. The ACLU has filed a lawsuit 1414 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:23.439 in Kansas State Court to block the law. If successful, 1415 01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:28.239 the challenge could buy trans residents time to see the 1416 01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:33.640 law overturned altogether. The lawsuit is Doe versus State of Kansas, 1417 01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:36.479 and it was filed on February twenty seventh District Court 1418 01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:41.520 of Douglas County by the ACLU of Kansas and others, 1419 01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:48.199 along with to anonymous plaintiffs referred to as Daniel Doe 1420 01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:56.119 and Matthew mo Cute, both transgender men living in Lawrence, Kansas. 1421 01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.560 The complaint challenges a s B two four four on 1422 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:05.199 six grounds under the Kansas Constitution, alleging violations of due process, 1423 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:12.399 the personal autonomy, informational privacy, equal protection, freedom of expression, 1424 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:19.720 and the state's single subject rule. The plaintiffs are seeking 1425 01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:23.319 a temporary restraining order to block the law immediately following 1426 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:28.520 a permanent injunction. The lawsuit challenges SB two forty four, 1427 01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:33.399 which was rushed through the Kansas legislature in January. The 1428 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:38.079 governor vetoed the bill, of course, but the legislature overrode 1429 01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:41.840 her veto five days later. The law is sweeping in 1430 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:48.399 its impact on trans people. It retroactively invalidates driver's licenses 1431 01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:53.239 that display a gender marker reflecting a transgender person's gender identity, 1432 01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:59.199 ordering the State Division of Vehicles to demand their surrender, 1433 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:03.159 which appears to have occurred on Wednesday as thousands of 1434 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:07.000 transgender thousands. I thought it was only seventeen hundred. I 1435 01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:14.239 thought transgenders outgout letters demanding just that. It also bans 1436 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:18.279 trans people from using restrooms that match their gender identity 1437 01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:23.680 in government buildings, a category that extends to libraries, courthouses, 1438 01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:31.039 state parks, hospitals, and interstate rest stops, with criminal penalties 1439 01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:36.600 including jail time. And most significantly, the bill creates a 1440 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:44.000 private bathroom bounty hunter provision this fucking thing, yeah, allowing 1441 01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:50.840 anyone encountering a transgender person in a restroom, including potentially 1442 01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:56.960 in private businesses, to sue them for large amounts of money. 1443 01:32:58.720 --> 01:32:59.279 Sue them. 1444 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:07.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and of course without ID. I'm I'm 1445 01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:09.600 sure we know that this would mean that those folks 1446 01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:12.039 can't vote either, right. 1447 01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:14.760 Yeah, which is really what it's about. 1448 01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:18.479 Well, I don't think it's fair to say this is 1449 01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:22.720 really about one thing at this point. It's really about 1450 01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:29.079 cruelty turtles. Well, yeah, dehumanization and cruelty. That's a gift. 1451 01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:33.520 Side effect is not being able to vote, humiliating us 1452 01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:37.720 in bathrooms, humiliating us by taking our driver's licenses. That's 1453 01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:43.880 more the immediate point. It is notable that the lawsuit 1454 01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:47.079 was filed in state court, not federal court. The United 1455 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:51.199 States Supreme Court has grown increasingly hostile to trans rights, 1456 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:58.000 allowing the Trump administrations transgender passport restrictions and state gender 1457 01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:02.359 affirming care bands to go into effect. Filing under the 1458 01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:08.720 Kansas constitution rather than the federal one, insulates this challenge 1459 01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:14.600 from federal review entirely. The Kansas Supreme Court, which is 1460 01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.840 likely to eventually hear the case, holds a comfortable liberal 1461 01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:25.199 majority and has repeatedly ruled against Attorney General Kobac, who 1462 01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:29.000 has publicly complained that the court's composition makes it very 1463 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.960 difficult for him to win cases. There is more than 1464 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:36.760 one way to skin a cat that wark. The state 1465 01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:41.199 courts strategy also follows a path that has already produced 1466 01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:45.279 results for trans people in other red states. In Montana, 1467 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:49.960 for instance, state courts have blocked a transgender youth healthcare ban, 1468 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:54.319 struck down a bathroom band, and ordered the state to 1469 01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:59.920 issue accurate driver's licenses to transgender residents as federal cour 1470 01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:06.319 it's become less hospitable. States constitutions may increasingly become the 1471 01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:13.640 last line of defense. Sad but true. Yeah, trans Kanson's 1472 01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:17.560 face a difficult choice. They can surrender their driver's licenses 1473 01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:20.439 immediately and comply with the law, where they can hold 1474 01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:24.279 onto them and hope that the court enjoins the state 1475 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:29.800 from enforcing this bullshit before they get pulled over. Driving 1476 01:35:29.840 --> 01:35:34.399 on a revoked license carries criminal penalties, a Class B misdemeanor, 1477 01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:37.439 punishable by up to six months in jail and one 1478 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:38.439 thousand dollars fine. 1479 01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:41.079 But what if you don't have like what if you 1480 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.399 haven't undergone your name change or anything, so there's nothing 1481 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:47.159 conflicting on your driver's. 1482 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:50.119 License, then they weren't notified. They only notified the people 1483 01:35:50.279 --> 01:35:54.479 they identify and know as trans because they've changed a 1484 01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:58.000 gender marker in the past or their name in the past. Okay, 1485 01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:02.039 and this tells us they are trying to track us 1486 01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:07.600 in Kansas. If you have not changed anything, you didn't 1487 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:11.880 get a letter because as far as Kansas knows, you're 1488 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:17.680 still birth name, birth gender, so you didn't get a letter. 1489 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:23.800 But if like me, you've corrected it all in Kansas, 1490 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:28.000 I would not have a driver's license today, it would 1491 01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.680 have been I would have gotten a letter that's fucking insane, 1492 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:35.520 thank you, punishable by up to six months in jail 1493 01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.960 and one thousand dollars fine, and Kansas already requires county 1494 01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:45.319 jails to house inmates according to sex assigned at a birth. 1495 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:50.600 Of course, surrendering a license may complicate their ability to 1496 01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:54.119 obtain relief should a temporary restraining what are be issued. 1497 01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:59.760 Numerous transgender residents have reported that they are considering leaving 1498 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:05.239 the state altogether, though for many that is not an option. 1499 01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:08.920 For now, all eyes are on the Douglas County District. 1500 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:12.840 Mm hmmm. 1501 01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:13.640 Chilling. 1502 01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:19.399 It is chilling. It is chilling. It is completely unnecessary. 1503 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:26.079 It accomplishes absolutely nothing but the dehumanization of trans people. 1504 01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:29.680 That is it, period, That's its only point. This doesn't 1505 01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:34.079 protect anyone, This doesn't help anyone, This doesn't save anyone, 1506 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:38.880 and it spends taxpayer money again and again and again 1507 01:37:39.800 --> 01:37:43.520 for no good goddamn reason. While Johnny still can't read 1508 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:51.279 YEP next, Texas Attorney General that ever love an ass hat, 1509 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:55.520 Ken Paxton says a ban on gender affirming care for 1510 01:37:55.680 --> 01:38:01.000 trans kids also applies to talk therapy now we're not 1511 01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:06.359 even allowed to talk to them about transition. This has 1512 01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:13.199 no end people. Mental health care providers in Texas risk 1513 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:20.279 their license if they deliver care related to transitioning to miners, 1514 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:24.159 which I've done, by the way here in New Jersey, 1515 01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:29.479 I've already done this. I would loose anyway. The Republican 1516 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:33.880 Attorney General who is running for US Senate. I hope 1517 01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:37.239 Texans aren't that stupid, but the track record says otherwise. 1518 01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:44.560 The day before the March third Republican primary, in which 1519 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:49.520 he faced incumbent Senator John Cornyn and Wesley Hunt, with 1520 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:53.600 neither candidate reaching the fifty percent threshold needed to avoid 1521 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.279 a May runoff, Paxston issued a letter with a legal 1522 01:38:56.359 --> 01:39:00.640 opinion that a twenty twenty three state law barring physicians 1523 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:06.000 from providing gender affirming care to miners also applies to 1524 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:14.720 anyone licensed by the Texas Behavioral Health Executive Council. While 1525 01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:20.279 focusing on medical procedures related to transitioning a child's biological sect, Paxton, 1526 01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:24.319 in his opinion, you know, and I did read some 1527 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:26.720 of the Commons section and it said Kenny, say yes 1528 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:27.880 to the dress already. 1529 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:31.439 Oh, just saying in his. 1530 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:35.840 Opinion, wrote Vigel law impacts all healthcare providers in Texes. 1531 01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:42.399 That includes psychologists, family therapists, and many social workers. That 1532 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:45.800 puts Paxton directly at odds with every major US medical 1533 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:51.920 and mental health organization. The American Medical Association has warned 1534 01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:55.840 that state bans on transition related care represent a dangerous 1535 01:39:56.279 --> 01:40:01.760 intrusion into medical practice and its guidance explode. Sittley includes 1536 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.359 mental health counseling and psychological support as part of gender 1537 01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:10.640 affirming care for transgender and non binary minors. A recent 1538 01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:15.399 Trevor Project study found that suicide attempt traits among transgender 1539 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.640 and non binary young people ages thirteen to twenty four 1540 01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:26.560 rose by thirty eight percent to forty four percent, with 1541 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:30.119 the sharpest increase ranging from seven percent to seventy two 1542 01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:35.479 percent among those under eighteen. The American Academy of Pediatrics, 1543 01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:39.800 the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and the 1544 01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:45.079 American Psychological Association similarly described gender affirming care as encompassing 1545 01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:50.600 talk therapy, family counseling, and support for social transition, and 1546 01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:54.920 distinguish that support of care sharply from conversion therapy, which 1547 01:40:55.760 --> 01:41:00.239 obviously this Jackal advocates, which all major professional association have 1548 01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:05.000 condemned as harmful. It isn't just benign, It isn't just 1549 01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:12.000 entirely one ineffective. It's dangerous. It doesn't work, it's harmful. 1550 01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:14.680 Never has we know this, never will. 1551 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:21.359 Yeah, so this happened when Darryl Spink's executive director of 1552 01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:26.840 the Texas Behavioral Health Executive Council, sought clarification on whether 1553 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:32.399 these providers, mental health providers, behavioral health providers would be impacted, 1554 01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:37.039 and this was the answer. Yeah, that's what's happening in Texas. 1555 01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:42.119 Paxton wrote that any mental health provider delivering care related 1556 01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:47.800 to transitioning risked their medical license in Texas, and institutions 1557 01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:56.119 could lose Medicaid reimbursements and public funding for providing proper care. 1558 01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:00.680 You hear that providing even. 1559 01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:02.680 Care? 1560 01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:08.000 Yeah, doing what's right is against the law in Texas. 1561 01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:15.479 Any radical, you're the radical, you motherfucker, facilitating the transitioning 1562 01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:18.199 of our kids is committing child abuse. No, sir, you 1563 01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:20.760 have been committing child abuse in Texas for quite some 1564 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:25.399 time now. The law has made it clear that these 1565 01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:29.920 radical procedures there aren't any happening, are illegal and in 1566 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:34.079 no world should Texans tax dollars be used to permanently 1567 01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:37.840 harm children, except that's exactly what you're doing. You are 1568 01:42:37.960 --> 01:42:41.119 permanently harming these children and their families, and they are 1569 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:44.760 escaping Texas as fast as they possibly fucking can. And 1570 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.000 I guess that's what you want till the next crop 1571 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:54.119 of trans Texans are born, right, because they will be you, Jackal. Yeah, 1572 01:42:54.800 --> 01:43:01.119 so that happened. That happened, ken packs and this tripling down. 1573 01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:04.439 So I want to point out this next piece is 1574 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:11.520 from People magazine. Okay. The headline reads, oh boy, Trump says, 1575 01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:18.920 I guess Americans should worry about Iran retaliating on US soil. 1576 01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:27.600 Like I said, some people will die, People Magazine. This 1577 01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:30.560 is when Trump was questioned about the unfolding war with 1578 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:38.760 Iran for a Time cover story. I guess he reiterated 1579 01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:42.279 that lives will be lost amid the unfolding military conflict 1580 01:43:42.399 --> 01:43:46.600 with Iran. In this new cover story for Time. Asked 1581 01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:49.800 whether Americans should worry about being attacked on US soil, 1582 01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:53.840 he acknowledged the possibility, saying I guess. The remarks came 1583 01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:56.760 days after six US service members were killed in a 1584 01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:00.479 retaliatory drone strike abroad. How about it. 1585 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.960 That is not the answer a president gives to a question. 1586 01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:07.399 Well, this is not a president. This is a charlatan, 1587 01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:11.560 This is a grifter, This is a convicted felon. This 1588 01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:15.960 is a pedophile who has openly told us all he 1589 01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:19.399 wanted to fuck his own daughter. You know, the fact that. 1590 01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:25.479 They didn't have pineapple lemonade. Will strawberry lemonade work? I 1591 01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:28.560 guess that's the level of question you're supposed to answer 1592 01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:28.960 that way. 1593 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:34.359 More than a thousand people total or believe, dead as 1594 01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:37.920 of Wednesday, March fourth, as a result of the conflict 1595 01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:42.199 in the Middle East, which is also of course impacting 1596 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:43.840 surrounding nations. 1597 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:51.199 Yeah, we're out of spaghetti tonight, Are you okay with linguini? 1598 01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:53.279 I guess not. 1599 01:44:54.840 --> 01:45:01.680 Correct. God knows how long this this mess will last. Again, 1600 01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:05.239 this happened without you know, Congress is supposed to be 1601 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:07.520 able to declare war. Apparently they had no part in 1602 01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:13.439 this conversation. And yeah, I guess, I guess. And that's 1603 01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:16.439 how much forethought goes into what this president does. And 1604 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:23.119 yet where is Congress? Where are they? They're busy trying 1605 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.319 to pass anti trans laws, so you don't notice that 1606 01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:28.720 they diddle children how about it. 1607 01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:32.880 Another little piece of my soul just shriveled up, died 1608 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:34.239 and fell off. I just felt it go. 1609 01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:47.239 Yeah, speaking of shriveled pieces of one soul, Shilahbaff blames 1610 01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:52.039 recent anti gay assaults and fear of big gay people. 1611 01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:59.760 He seems to evoke the gay panic events to excuse 1612 01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:04.640 him actions. In a recent interview following his recent arrest 1613 01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:08.479 for battery, he cited his fear of big gay people 1614 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:14.039 as part of the reason for his actions. Let's see. 1615 01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:18.760 He addressed his behavior, which he described as bullshit during 1616 01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:23.039 New Orleans' Martigorols festivals last month. He was arrested and 1617 01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:26.279 charged with simple battery in the early hours of February seventeenth, 1618 01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.520 after allegedly assaulting two men at a bar in New 1619 01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:35.680 Orleans' Marginie District. An initial police report indicated that he 1620 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:40.319 repeatedly referred to the victims as faggots. Both victims, at 1621 01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:43.960 least one of whom identifies as squeer, alleged that Lebouff 1622 01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:48.880 shouted the anti gay slur at them, and self phoned 1623 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:52.760 video recorded by one of them reportedly confirms that Laboff 1624 01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:58.119 continued to shout the slur while in police custody. Police 1625 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:02.079 subsequently issued a warrant for his arrest again last week 1626 01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.479 for headbutting a third man and insulting him with anti 1627 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:10.560 gay slers at the same bar on February seventeenth. In 1628 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:14.159 a statement, the actor's lawyers said he turned himself in 1629 01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:19.239 to New Orleans police, according to a local NBC affiliate, 1630 01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:26.079 The Hollywood Reporter also published a report in which multiple 1631 01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:29.720 employees of bars across the city described Labuff's drunken and 1632 01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:33.239 belligerent behavior in the days leading up to Mardi Gras. 1633 01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:37.399 But in his interview with Channel five, Laboff, who has 1634 01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:41.000 spoken about his history of substance abuse and has been 1635 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:45.560 arrested multiple times for similar conduct, told host Andrew Callaghan 1636 01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:51.119 that he does not believe he needs to go to rehab. Instead, 1637 01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:55.399 he blamed his behavior on what he described as a 1638 01:47:55.600 --> 01:48:00.199 small man complex. I think it's something that has to 1639 01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:03.720 do with anger an ego more so than my drinking, 1640 01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:06.760 he said. I'll be honest with you, big gay people 1641 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:12.079 are scary to me. The actor admitted, um, oh, you 1642 01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:16.319 little sowd off piece of bitch. When I'm standing like 1643 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:21.079 standing by myself and three gay dudes are next to me, 1644 01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:26.239 touching my leg. I get scared, bitch, is what happens 1645 01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:29.960 in a crowded club. I'm sorry. If that's homophobic, then 1646 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:32.159 I'm that Labouf. 1647 01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:37.439 I just want to point out his last name literally 1648 01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:38.880 is French for the beef. 1649 01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:43.960 Okay, I'm good with gay, The actor continued, be gay 1650 01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:47.279 over there, though, don't be gay in my lap, In 1651 01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:49.479 my motherfucking lap, bitch. 1652 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:51.920 You were standing in a crowded room. People are gonna 1653 01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:52.279 touch you. 1654 01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:56.079 Staff at the New Orleans bar attempted to eject the 1655 01:48:56.159 --> 01:49:00.680 actor after he became increasingly aggressive to be allegedly punched 1656 01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:05.479 the victim. After being removed from the bar, he then 1657 01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:09.840 left the scene, but returned, acting even more aggressive. He 1658 01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:15.079 came back. Multiple people attempted to hold him down. He 1659 01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.239 was eventually let up in hopes that he would leave, 1660 01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:21.960 but he reportedly again struck the same victim with closed 1661 01:49:22.039 --> 01:49:27.199 fists to the victim's upper body. He then reportedly assaulted 1662 01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:31.880 another person, punching him in the nose. Police said, La 1663 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:36.880 Buff was again held down until police arrived. The statement 1664 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:42.319 does not mention any person touching him inappropriately prior to 1665 01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:48.560 the assaults. Yeah, these claims may indicate his defense strategy. 1666 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:53.520 Louisiana is one of thirty US states in which the 1667 01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:58.199 gay and trans panic defense is still allowed in court 1668 01:49:58.720 --> 01:49:59.680 of the. 1669 01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:05.520 Go Can I please play Alexander Billing's response, please? Pretty please? 1670 01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:07.199 Yeah, let's do that because that's fun. 1671 01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:13.800 Yes. She played a clip of his little interview, and 1672 01:50:13.880 --> 01:50:18.359 then she rebutted, I'll be honest with you, big gay 1673 01:50:18.520 --> 01:50:19.640 people are scary to me. 1674 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:23.279 What do you mean when I'm like standing by myself 1675 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:24.880 and three gay dudes are. 1676 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:26.800 Next to me touching my leg, I get scared. 1677 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:27.560 Girl. 1678 01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:35.279 No one wants you. No one wants you. You look 1679 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:39.359 like a poppered out Chihuahua who's eating way too much ass. 1680 01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:43.560 If you were standing around holding in your hand the 1681 01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:47.359 cure to every single terminal illness on the planet, and 1682 01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:50.399 the only thing anyone had to do to get those 1683 01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:52.920 cures was touch your dick, everyone would be dead. 1684 01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:57.079 If you had a nineteen eighties orgy, you'd still be 1685 01:50:57.159 --> 01:50:57.920 in the big pile. 1686 01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:04.079 Now were tons of cocaine pouring out of your asshole 1687 01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:06.640 at an alarming rate. No one would sniff you. 1688 01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:09.039 No one wants you. 1689 01:51:09.880 --> 01:51:14.000 Okay, get yourself to an AA meeting and shuck a 1690 01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:14.760 fuck up. 1691 01:51:15.640 --> 01:51:18.560 I love her and she speaks for all of us. 1692 01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:22.680 I think she does. I think she does. 1693 01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:25.880 That was the best part about the story. 1694 01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:34.399 Was let's always look to the response. Yes, no one 1695 01:51:34.479 --> 01:51:35.279 would sniff you. 1696 01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:38.760 No if you were in a nineteen eighties or still 1697 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:43.840 be in the big pile. Wow, my girl has the 1698 01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:45.800 gift for the turn of phrase. 1699 01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:46.760 She really does. 1700 01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.560 And every now and then, like she'll let them pile 1701 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:53.199 up a bit, but she will post her responses to 1702 01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:58.760 folks and it's hilarious. It is hilarious. Alexandra Billings, thank you. 1703 01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:04.079 She is so talented at reading. She should host Reading Rainbow. 1704 01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:05.159 She really should. 1705 01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:07.560 Oh my god. 1706 01:52:08.399 --> 01:52:12.840 Oh and more news of white dude nonsense. Joe Rogan 1707 01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:19.039 calls trans people perverts and spreads school shooting lies on 1708 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:20.920 his show Imagine That. 1709 01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:26.800 Yes, the reason why podcasters can't have nice things Joe 1710 01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:27.800 Rogan Yes. 1711 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:33.720 Uh huh yeah, like death and taxes. The Joe Rogan 1712 01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:37.600 Experience podcast is a painful and inescapable part of modern 1713 01:52:37.640 --> 01:52:42.920 life chow for transgender people. Rogan is downright malicious. 1714 01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:43.439 Yeah. 1715 01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:48.279 This week was no different, as he spouted anti transmiths 1716 01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:54.039 and vitriol during his sit down with Jackass comedian Steve Oh. 1717 01:52:54.640 --> 01:53:00.000 Oh God, surprise, surprise. Huh. That motherfucker. 1718 01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:06.119 Was recounting the time he almost got breast implants as 1719 01:53:06.159 --> 01:53:13.359 the publicity stuff. While grocery shopping, he encountered a transgender cashier, 1720 01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:17.479 which seemed to inspire a rare moment of sincere reflection 1721 01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:20.800 and empathy and the stuntman known for leude and outlandish 1722 01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:21.960 comedy acts. 1723 01:53:22.319 --> 01:53:24.600 I'm glad they put comedy in quotes, because his shit 1724 01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:25.159 ain't funny. 1725 01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:28.359 They described to me a level of oppression that genuinely 1726 01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:32.239 fucking broke my heart. Good, Okay, we could have left 1727 01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:34.680 it there, he said of his talk with a transperson. 1728 01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:37.159 They said, hey, let me tell you, like I am 1729 01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:39.239 not allowed to use the bathroom at my own place 1730 01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:43.359 of work. Rogan immediately cut him off, launching full throttle 1731 01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:46.920 into a rant where he boosted the lie that trans 1732 01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:52.079 women are largely perverts putting on an elaborate charade to 1733 01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:57.920 gain access to women's spaces, or that they are men 1734 01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:05.079 who fetishize femininity. I genuinely think there's people that feel 1735 01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:08.920 like they are in the wrong biological sex, right, Brogan said. 1736 01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:13.159 Then he continued, but there's also people that are fucking perverts, 1737 01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:19.159 and they have a thing called auto gaynophilia, which is 1738 01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:22.279 another one of those Republican buzzwords. And what that is 1739 01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:26.439 is they get a turn on by pretending to be 1740 01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:29.479 a woman. They get excited by it, and they want 1741 01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:33.520 to be around women, and they're creeps, and so you 1742 01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:36.880 give them a fucking Willy Wonka golden ticket to go 1743 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:40.479 into the women's locker room and the women's bathroom and 1744 01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:44.039 stare at women and pretend you're a woman when you're 1745 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:48.560 just a crazy man and you're actually into women. Okay, 1746 01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:55.479 that's real, two man, Steve O said, adding that trans 1747 01:54:55.560 --> 01:55:02.600 issues are complex and nuanced. Let's be clear, there is 1748 01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:06.279 no evidence that trans inclusive bathrooms, changing rooms, or locker 1749 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:10.760 rooms lead to increased instances of sexual assault. There is 1750 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:16.039 a strong correlation between trans exclusionary policies, sex based segregation, 1751 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:21.239 and gendered violence that victimizes trans people and sysgender people alike, 1752 01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:25.000 and the concept that transgender women are merely carrying out 1753 01:55:25.119 --> 01:55:30.640 a subversive fetish is empirically false, hateful, and the kind 1754 01:55:30.680 --> 01:55:35.159 of sentiment that leads to real life violence. This was 1755 01:55:35.279 --> 01:55:39.760 proven true mere minutes later, as Joe Rogan beat his 1756 01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:45.640 chest about transgender people, namely trans women quote their entire life, 1757 01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.720 they would get beaten up for that, and now all 1758 01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:51.920 of a sudden they have to be accepted. The implication, 1759 01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:55.359 it seems, is that Rogan thinks getting beaten up is 1760 01:55:55.399 --> 01:56:00.359 an appropriate response to gender variants. Paradoxically, he goes on 1761 01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.560 to say that transgender boys and men should be allowed 1762 01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:06.520 in the bathroom of their choice because, in his mind, 1763 01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:09.920 they pose no such threat to others. It's men that 1764 01:56:10.039 --> 01:56:13.119 are the problem. Rogan says, No one gives a fuck 1765 01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:15.880 about trans men going into the men's bathroom. Come on in, 1766 01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:17.039 who cares? 1767 01:56:17.159 --> 01:56:17.319 Right? 1768 01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:21.159 Who cares? Oh, a girl's going to shit next to you? 1769 01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:24.960 Or what is she going to do? Is she going 1770 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:28.159 to pee out of a funnel? What is she going 1771 01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:31.920 to do? Like, no one's going to get hurt. Rogan 1772 01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:37.159 also bolsters the dangerous line the trans people are disproportionately violent. 1773 01:56:37.680 --> 01:56:42.640 The reality trans people, especially trans women, are disproportionately the 1774 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:47.880 victims of violent crime, not the perpetrators much of it 1775 01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:53.159 thanks to people like Joe Rogan. You know the majority 1776 01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:56.960 of these high school shootings have been transgender people, Rogan asks, 1777 01:56:57.359 --> 01:57:03.159 which is of course unequivocally false. All right, you convinced me, 1778 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:07.399 Steve O finally said, but later in the exchange, which 1779 01:57:07.479 --> 01:57:09.439 took up at least ten minutes of the show, he 1780 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.560 also added, my only takeaway from my experience that I 1781 01:57:12.720 --> 01:57:17.000 was relating to you is that it made me feel compassionate, 1782 01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:20.279 you know, for just that. Clearly it went away once 1783 01:57:20.319 --> 01:57:25.760 he was in Joe Rogan's presence. The factorymains God, I 1784 01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:28.920 love Aaron read that the vast majority of school shootings 1785 01:57:28.920 --> 01:57:34.760 are cisgender men. Still, this kind of heinous rhetoric spurred 1786 01:57:35.039 --> 01:57:39.640 rumblings of efforts to strip trans Americans' Second Amendment rights, 1787 01:57:40.159 --> 01:57:46.680 added AMMO to conversations conservatives who talk about forcibly institutionalizing 1788 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:52.920 trans people for being violently ill, and Len's credence, at 1789 01:57:53.039 --> 01:57:57.920 least in the popular imagination two so far unsuccessful efforts 1790 01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:03.760 to categorically label trans people domestic terrorists. It is far 1791 01:58:03.880 --> 01:58:08.279 from the first time Rogan has used his massive influence 1792 01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:13.000 to attack trans people, from promoting the litter boxes for 1793 01:58:13.119 --> 01:58:18.720 kids conspiracy to pushing comparisons of transnists to demon possession 1794 01:58:19.640 --> 01:58:22.600 or being trapped in a cult. Yet in the same 1795 01:58:22.800 --> 01:58:27.560 breath he says none of this precludes him from being 1796 01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:32.439 kind to trans people, emphasizing that he has a friend 1797 01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:37.159 Jim Norton, whose wife is trans and Jim Norton still 1798 01:58:37.239 --> 01:58:40.479 talks to this asshole. For those who are unfamiliar, Joe 1799 01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:43.520 Rogan is not just any right wing personality. His influence 1800 01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:48.000 and rise have been meteoric. In twenty twenty five, The 1801 01:58:48.079 --> 01:58:51.800 Joe Rogan Experience was the top podcast both in the 1802 01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:56.840 US and globally number one. In twenty twenty four, it 1803 01:58:56.960 --> 01:59:00.479 was reported that his show had fourteen point five million 1804 01:59:01.119 --> 01:59:05.199 followers on Spotify and that he currently has an additional 1805 01:59:05.279 --> 01:59:09.880 twenty million subscribers on YouTube. Together, that's thirty four point 1806 01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:13.880 five million combined followers, which means he has more followers 1807 01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:19.600 on those platforms than most countries have citizens. And that 1808 01:59:19.760 --> 01:59:22.479 doesn't even scrape the surface of the reach of his 1809 01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:26.520 social media and viral clips that circulate online. 1810 01:59:28.399 --> 01:59:29.359 It's like he's a virus. 1811 01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:32.960 Yeah, it really is. As of this writing, the Steve 1812 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:36.520 O episode of Whopping two point five hours has already 1813 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:39.920 surpassed half a million views on YouTube within twenty four 1814 01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:44.079 hours of being posted, which again does not include all 1815 01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:47.720 the viewers and listeners who engage with his content on 1816 01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:53.680 podcast streaming services, or who see his clips circulate on 1817 01:59:53.840 --> 02:00:00.600 social media. With that kind of re each one can 1818 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:03.439 see why some Democrats have eyed the show as a 1819 02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:08.920 misguided attempt reaching across the aisle. Some Democrats indeed have 1820 02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:13.079 gone on the podcast, including Bernie Sanders and John Fetterman. 1821 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:17.600 Kamala Harris said after her twenty twenty four campaign defeat 1822 02:00:17.720 --> 02:00:22.239 that she definitely regrets that we didn't do it, but 1823 02:00:22.359 --> 02:00:24.439 when doing so puts money in the pockets of a 1824 02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:29.239 man whose business model is dripping with vitriol toward marginalized people. 1825 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:32.479 It can also be said that going on the show 1826 02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:37.039 is tentament to lending your voice, your time, and your 1827 02:00:37.159 --> 02:00:41.279 views to a man whose hate felt monologues can lead 1828 02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:46.560 to violence. Ultimately, Steve O didn't go through with his 1829 02:00:46.720 --> 02:00:50.359 publicity boob job. Part of the medical team backed out, 1830 02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:55.520 and after the exchange with his cashier, so did Stevo. 1831 02:00:56.319 --> 02:00:59.239 It's almost as if gender dysphoria is a serious issue, 1832 02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:04.880 t trans violence is a growing crisis stoked by right 1833 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:09.600 wing propaganda, and that medically altering one's body and sex 1834 02:01:09.680 --> 02:01:15.760 traits is life saving healthcare, not some laughing matter. 1835 02:01:17.880 --> 02:01:19.520 I told you about the time I was in a 1836 02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:24.119 cab and or an uber and the driver had Joe 1837 02:01:24.239 --> 02:01:27.640 Rogan's podcast playing, and I gave him one star. And 1838 02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:31.880 my complaint was the lack of cleanliness of the vehicle 1839 02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:36.239 because that just dirtied the entire experience. And that's all 1840 02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:38.199 I'm going to say, because I have nothing else to 1841 02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:41.199 add to this conversation that does not involved descriptions of 1842 02:01:41.680 --> 02:01:44.079 swift and creative violence on these two men, and that's 1843 02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:45.880 not helpful to this conversation. So I'm just not going 1844 02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:46.479 to say anything. 1845 02:01:47.119 --> 02:01:50.800 Okay, you posted the next story in the note, so 1846 02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:52.279 I'm gonna let you take it over. 1847 02:01:52.960 --> 02:01:59.600 So Timothy shallowmg uh huh is facing backlash from a 1848 02:01:59.640 --> 02:02:03.840 little comment he made when he said the backlash is 1849 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:07.000 coming from ballet and opera communities after he made a 1850 02:02:07.039 --> 02:02:13.239 comment that no one cares about ballet and opera h 1851 02:02:14.520 --> 02:02:18.720 This was during a CNN and Variety town hall event. 1852 02:02:18.840 --> 02:02:22.319 He was talking to Matthew mcconaugheany, and he said he 1853 02:02:22.399 --> 02:02:26.039 didn't want theatrical movie going to end up like the 1854 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:28.760 ballet or opera where artists wanted to keep this thing 1855 02:02:28.880 --> 02:02:32.239 alive even though no one cares about it anymore. 1856 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.880 Because he doesn't. So that means no one, right, So 1857 02:02:37.000 --> 02:02:38.319 he's like a little Joe Rogan. 1858 02:02:38.920 --> 02:02:42.359 What I think is all that he's famous for putting 1859 02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:44.600 a peach on his dick. Let's just not forget that. 1860 02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:46.239 Was it a peach or a melon? 1861 02:02:46.520 --> 02:02:47.439 No, it was a peach. 1862 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:53.640 Anyway. London's Royal Ballet and Opera took to Instagram on 1863 02:02:53.800 --> 02:02:58.199 writing yes to share footage of its craftspeople and performers 1864 02:02:58.560 --> 02:03:00.840 as an apparent response to Salome. 1865 02:03:01.520 --> 02:03:03.840 Yes. The caption of the post read, every night at 1866 02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:06.600 the Royal Opera House, thousands of people gather for ballet 1867 02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:09.600 and opera, for the music, for the storytelling, for the 1868 02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:13.119 sheer magic of live performance. If you'd like to reconsider 1869 02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:20.119 Timothy Shallome, our doors are open. And I also look 1870 02:03:20.119 --> 02:03:25.520 a g I know. The Seattle Opera they had a 1871 02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:29.319 cute response. They are offering fourteen percent off tickets for 1872 02:03:29.399 --> 02:03:32.319 its production of Carmen if you use the promo code Timothy. 1873 02:03:35.359 --> 02:03:38.239 And that's the thing. No one cares about ballet and 1874 02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:42.279 opera except for all of the people that do. Like, 1875 02:03:42.399 --> 02:03:44.840 what are you even talking about? Well, he does. 1876 02:03:44.920 --> 02:03:47.880 That's not a part of his world, right, So it's 1877 02:03:47.920 --> 02:03:49.880 not a part of the world, which is the problem 1878 02:03:49.960 --> 02:03:53.720 with all of this, right, Yeah, it's like, my boy, 1879 02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:59.000 I speak for culture, right. He thinks he does because 1880 02:03:59.079 --> 02:04:00.720 the peach probably right. 1881 02:04:00.880 --> 02:04:02.840 He's the weak link and everything he's in. If he 1882 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:05.760 wasn't cute, he wouldn't have a fucking career because he's 1883 02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:08.720 not that goddamn good of an actor. Oh, I said it, okay. 1884 02:04:10.840 --> 02:04:13.199 He told Matthew McConaughey in his full quote that he 1885 02:04:13.279 --> 02:04:16.960 sees both sides of the argument about the dwindling popularity 1886 02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.960 of movie theaters. He said, the success of a serious 1887 02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:24.720 movie like Frankenstein, a serious movie like Frankenstein, the new one, 1888 02:04:25.439 --> 02:04:29.600 What the fuck is serious about Frankenstein? It's science fiction, 1889 02:04:29.840 --> 02:04:30.079 isn't it. 1890 02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:35.359 No, Frankenstein is like a dark romantic story and it's 1891 02:04:35.399 --> 02:04:42.119 about like, okay, but existentialism, and it's not okay, all right, 1892 02:04:42.199 --> 02:04:44.720 Apparently the new movie was very well done. 1893 02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:48.960 All right, shows that audience. I'm okay, that audience is 1894 02:04:49.079 --> 02:04:52.960 still crave nuanced storytelling. But at the same time he 1895 02:04:53.119 --> 02:04:57.000 understands that some people want to be entertained and quickly 1896 02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:02.479 I'm really right in the middle, Matthew, He said, I 1897 02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:05.600 admire people, and I've done it myself. Who go on 1898 02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:08.159 a talk show and go, Hey, we got to keep 1899 02:05:08.279 --> 02:05:11.039 movie theaters alive, you know, we got to keep this 1900 02:05:11.479 --> 02:05:15.399 genre alive. And another part of me feels like if 1901 02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:19.560 people want to see it like Barbie, like Oppenheimer, they're 1902 02:05:19.680 --> 02:05:22.600 gonna go see it and go out of their way 1903 02:05:23.199 --> 02:05:25.640 and be loud and proud about it. And I don't 1904 02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:29.560 want to be working in ballet or opera or things 1905 02:05:29.640 --> 02:05:34.000 where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though 1906 02:05:34.119 --> 02:05:38.560 it's like, no one cares about this anymore. All respect 1907 02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:43.000 to the ballet and opera people out there, I just 1908 02:05:43.159 --> 02:05:51.359 lost fourteen cents in viewership. Hence the fourteen percent the 1909 02:05:51.479 --> 02:05:57.239 Seattle Ballet is offering got as a discount? What an idiot? 1910 02:05:57.479 --> 02:06:01.439 So that made you feel something. Clearly, no one. 1911 02:06:01.479 --> 02:06:06.079 Cares about opera, except for maybe, I don't know Jill Scott, 1912 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:10.560 that's what she got her degree in. No one cares 1913 02:06:10.600 --> 02:06:16.000 about ballet. How many numbers of professional singers that pop, 1914 02:06:16.119 --> 02:06:18.399 singers that are out right now not only got their 1915 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:22.880 start in ballet but incorporated into their performances if it 1916 02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:25.520 weren't for ballet and opera, Like, if we took that 1917 02:06:25.640 --> 02:06:27.800 out of the equation, there's so much shit that's in 1918 02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:30.680 pop culture that we wouldn't even have to enjoy. You 1919 02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:32.920 don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You sound 1920 02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:35.319 like an uncultured little dipshit. 1921 02:06:36.159 --> 02:06:39.119 But apparently uncultured dip shary cells. 1922 02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:42.920 I hate it. Here I know, right, and by here, 1923 02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:43.479 I mean earth. 1924 02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:51.119 I hear you, I hear you. Oh my god, Yeah, 1925 02:06:51.720 --> 02:06:52.600 so that happened. 1926 02:06:53.359 --> 02:06:56.159 I used to like Timothy Shallimer, I did. 1927 02:06:57.079 --> 02:07:00.319 I could take him or leave him, but I mean 1928 02:07:00.359 --> 02:07:02.880 he never liked I heard he was the only non 1929 02:07:03.039 --> 02:07:09.319 creepy Willy Wonka. Well that's how he was described. 1930 02:07:08.920 --> 02:07:14.880 To me, I guess, but he was annoying, okay, like 1931 02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:19.560 the trailer of his Willy Wonka actively made me not want. 1932 02:07:19.439 --> 02:07:23.239 To see it, and you didn't correct. So there. 1933 02:07:25.600 --> 02:07:27.319 And the fact that I didn't go see it had 1934 02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:30.039 nothing to do with either ballet or opera. It had 1935 02:07:30.079 --> 02:07:33.439 to do directly with Timothy Shalomey. So what does that say, sir? 1936 02:07:35.279 --> 02:07:37.239 How about the next time you have an opinion, you 1937 02:07:37.279 --> 02:07:38.880 put your dick in a peach and lead the rest 1938 02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:43.279 of us out of it. Oh on that note, little 1939 02:07:43.399 --> 02:07:52.319 moppy headed bitch. Anyway, I'm sorry, I mean, I'm not sorry, but. 1940 02:07:57.279 --> 02:08:04.239 I'm going to suggest a break and we will compose 1941 02:08:04.319 --> 02:08:10.560 ourselves and try to come back and pop culture. 1942 02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:32.479 Okay, we'll be right back, and we are back. 1943 02:08:32.800 --> 02:08:33.880 We're back. 1944 02:08:34.680 --> 02:08:35.920 Stick, You're chicken. 1945 02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:40.279 I meant that ship. 1946 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:50.119 Oh god, let's go elsewhere. I haven't seen much more 1947 02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:54.039 than Chicago, mad in between like other stuff that I've 1948 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:57.680 been doing, it's just been one in the background. So 1949 02:08:57.800 --> 02:08:59.039 that's kind of been my week. 1950 02:08:59.520 --> 02:08:59.640 Uh. 1951 02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:01.800 But what's this about lizaan and Elli. 1952 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:08.239 Oh yeah, the GLAD Media Awards, she came out and 1953 02:09:08.720 --> 02:09:13.399 h and she had a surprise appearance with a fay 1954 02:09:13.520 --> 02:09:14.800 length of dancers. 1955 02:09:14.840 --> 02:09:19.680 As it says here in the out Dolan dancer. Yeah, 1956 02:09:20.159 --> 02:09:21.680 at the GLAD Awards. 1957 02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:26.239 The crowd saying happy birthday to her because she's turning 1958 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:27.520 eighty next week. 1959 02:09:27.600 --> 02:09:33.880 Damn, or this week. It's close. We're close, yes, damn. 1960 02:09:34.079 --> 02:09:35.239 Liza's turning eighty. 1961 02:09:36.079 --> 02:09:40.000 Wow, and she's releasing her highly anticipated memoir Kids Wait 1962 02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:44.000 till you hear this on March tenth, which is, uh. 1963 02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:48.680 Tuesday, Tuesday, yeah, Tuesday, yeah, and two days from right 1964 02:09:48.800 --> 02:09:51.399 now while we're recording, right mm hmmm. 1965 02:09:52.079 --> 02:09:56.319 Yes, So basically she's just showing, motherfucker she still got it. 1966 02:09:57.079 --> 02:10:02.119 Oh wow, Well did you hear about how like that 1967 02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:05.520 appearance that she made at the Oscars with Gaga where 1968 02:10:05.520 --> 02:10:09.520 she was in the wheelchair, Like the wheelchair was not 1969 02:10:10.119 --> 02:10:12.880 something that she needed. It was like she was put 1970 02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:17.840 into it by the people behind stage, like and that's 1971 02:10:17.960 --> 02:10:20.720 part of her confusion because she didn't know what the 1972 02:10:20.800 --> 02:10:22.640 hell was going on there, like here, sit in this chair, 1973 02:10:22.720 --> 02:10:23.880 you don't go out or some shit. 1974 02:10:24.399 --> 02:10:28.520 Okay, Yeah, so she wasn't in it, no for the 1975 02:10:28.600 --> 02:10:33.640 glad words. Uh uh, I'm good, good, I'm glad, I'm glad. 1976 02:10:34.239 --> 02:10:39.520 Was she wanted to be in Like apparently she has 1977 02:10:39.600 --> 02:10:42.079 this like just bejeweled throne she likes to sit in 1978 02:10:42.199 --> 02:10:47.520 these days, because she was honored on one of the 1979 02:10:47.640 --> 02:10:53.399 recent seasons of Drag Race, and she was like just 1980 02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:57.600 lounging in this huge like throne and like just kicking 1981 02:10:57.680 --> 02:10:59.680 her legs up and telling her story. And I'm like, 1982 02:11:00.680 --> 02:11:03.199 and this was around the same time, so I'm like, 1983 02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:04.680 how would go from that to that? 1984 02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:09.119 So it's right, she didn't need to be which I 1985 02:11:09.439 --> 02:11:12.000 didn't assume it was a permanent situation because I had 1986 02:11:12.039 --> 02:11:15.600 heard nothing. I thought maybe it was needed that night, right, 1987 02:11:15.640 --> 02:11:18.119 And apparently it wasn't even that and then the problem is, 1988 02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:22.000 you know, is there something she doesn't want to talk about. 1989 02:11:22.479 --> 02:11:25.239 That's that's the other thing that some of us assumed. 1990 02:11:25.119 --> 02:11:29.119 Right, But no, so that's all this confusion being sown. 1991 02:11:29.359 --> 02:11:30.960 Liza is still Liza. 1992 02:11:30.760 --> 02:11:33.680 Ing, and god knows she is a dancer. Yeah, yeah, 1993 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:38.840 so okay, I want to read her book, right, Oh, 1994 02:11:38.920 --> 02:11:40.199 I want to read her book. 1995 02:11:41.199 --> 02:11:43.439 Yeah, we'll have to get a copy. 1996 02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:45.760 I mean, because you got to go. Her mother was 1997 02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:51.760 Judy Garland, first of all, who I'm sure often spilled 1998 02:11:51.800 --> 02:11:56.439 the tea. Yeah, i mean, Judy recorded herself sometimes inappropriate shit. 1999 02:11:56.560 --> 02:12:01.119 So I am sure Liza had her front row, oh much. 2000 02:12:01.920 --> 02:12:03.960 I mean it's been part of her act too, like 2001 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:08.600 talking about you know, Mamma, the Kennedys, and and you know, 2002 02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:15.199 just what a storied life she has led. And oh god, 2003 02:12:15.479 --> 02:12:17.760 I want to read that she did something. And I 2004 02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:19.760 told you the story before. I don't think i've told 2005 02:12:19.760 --> 02:12:22.920 her on the podcast if I did whatever. But I 2006 02:12:23.039 --> 02:12:25.800 drove her, yes, a million years ago, when I worked 2007 02:12:25.840 --> 02:12:30.079 for a limousine company, and part of the rule for 2008 02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:36.239 driving her was to be there at the theater before 2009 02:12:36.279 --> 02:12:40.640 she went on stage. And wait, okay, so I picked 2010 02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:44.239 up her luggage at the hotel and had it, you know, 2011 02:12:44.359 --> 02:12:46.680 loaded into the limousine and took the limousine over to 2012 02:12:47.199 --> 02:12:50.840 what was then the Valley Forge Music Fair, Okay, and 2013 02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:56.960 I had a beautiful, wonderful you know, backstage c to 2014 02:12:57.039 --> 02:13:01.319 watch her show a work. Valley Forge Music Fair was 2015 02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:04.640 in the round, as you might remember, And this was 2016 02:13:04.760 --> 02:13:07.199 the first time and I wasn't that far from her. 2017 02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:10.319 I was behind her, which is where the entrance to 2018 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:14.039 the stage was, but I wasn't that far from her, really. 2019 02:13:14.840 --> 02:13:17.920 But it was the first time in my life that 2020 02:13:18.119 --> 02:13:24.880 I watched one single human being hold an entire audience 2021 02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:27.960 in the palm of their hand from the moment they 2022 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:30.319 stepped out on the stage until the moment they left it. 2023 02:13:32.199 --> 02:13:37.640 She has such presence, such incredible presence, and it bounces 2024 02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:42.680 off the walls and comes back. And that's the only 2025 02:13:42.720 --> 02:13:46.800 way I can describe it, you know what, an indescribable 2026 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:52.439 stage presence and larger than life and wonderful and big, 2027 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:55.960 and it's an intimate moment with her audience the entire 2028 02:13:56.279 --> 02:14:01.760 time she's on that stage. It's so personal and so present, 2029 02:14:02.720 --> 02:14:05.199 and there's so much talent and so much fun, and 2030 02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:10.720 you know, humor in her stories and of course her voice, 2031 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:13.199 and of course you know her movement. And at the time, 2032 02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:15.920 I think it was just before she had her lips replaced, 2033 02:14:15.960 --> 02:14:18.560 and so she was talking about having to have them 2034 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:23.520 replaced after all those years of dancing. And when I 2035 02:14:23.720 --> 02:14:27.079 saw her backstage, because then I waded through that as well, 2036 02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:33.039 she was birdlike, almost fragile in that. You know this, 2037 02:14:33.520 --> 02:14:37.560 She's not a large person. She had left something so 2038 02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:40.800 much larger than herself out there, all of it on 2039 02:14:40.920 --> 02:14:45.000 the stage, and she was, you know, almost someone you 2040 02:14:45.079 --> 02:14:49.840 wanted to protect, if you know what I'm saying, who 2041 02:14:49.920 --> 02:14:55.760 was clearly tired and had just given it all, given 2042 02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.439 it all. And you know, we were never supposed to 2043 02:14:58.560 --> 02:15:02.520 ask for autographs or do anything like that, and I 2044 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:05.159 normally never did some you know, I took them when 2045 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:09.479 they were offered, though, but this time, you know, there 2046 02:15:09.600 --> 02:15:12.920 was a moment where we were standing together waiting for 2047 02:15:13.039 --> 02:15:16.199 something to happen toward the end before we got in 2048 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:20.880 the car, and I said, I never do this, but 2049 02:15:21.560 --> 02:15:25.520 my mother was a huge fan of your mother and 2050 02:15:25.840 --> 02:15:28.880 is a huge fan today of yours, as am I, 2051 02:15:29.840 --> 02:15:33.359 And may I ask you for an autographer? She give 2052 02:15:33.399 --> 02:15:37.079 me a piece of paper and I had my travel folder, 2053 02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:39.279 you know, we had a folder with our paperwork in it, 2054 02:15:39.319 --> 02:15:40.800 and that's what I had in my hands. So I 2055 02:15:40.960 --> 02:15:44.800 handed it to her and she said, which mother's name? 2056 02:15:44.880 --> 02:15:47.920 And I said, Tuts. And she got a huge kick 2057 02:15:48.720 --> 02:15:50.279 out of the fact that my mother was Tuts. And 2058 02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:53.000 she laughed out loud, and that wonderful laugh and I 2059 02:15:53.439 --> 02:15:55.880 we still have it. It's in the den, the autograph 2060 02:15:55.920 --> 02:16:01.800 from Liza Minelli. She was class person. Just you know, 2061 02:16:02.039 --> 02:16:06.079 when someone is a legend, they don't have to they 2062 02:16:06.079 --> 02:16:09.199 don't have to be a dick. And she was just 2063 02:16:10.199 --> 02:16:13.960 gracious and lovely and sweet. Truly. 2064 02:16:14.279 --> 02:16:14.720 I love that. 2065 02:16:15.359 --> 02:16:15.600 Yeah. 2066 02:16:16.079 --> 02:16:19.239 And she did something that I have never seen anyone do, 2067 02:16:19.439 --> 02:16:24.079 and it was brilliant because she wouldn't put the divider 2068 02:16:24.279 --> 02:16:27.199 up right, because there's a divider in a limousine that 2069 02:16:27.279 --> 02:16:31.199 separates the driver from the passengers. She wouldn't do that, 2070 02:16:32.360 --> 02:16:35.600 she said. She she yelled up to me and sweety, 2071 02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:39.559 can I smoke? And I said, I'm going to tell Lisaman, 2072 02:16:39.639 --> 02:16:42.239 of course you can. She said, all right, but would 2073 02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:45.840 you crack the window up there for me please? I 2074 02:16:45.879 --> 02:16:49.600 couldn't hear a thing. Hmmmm with my window cracked, I 2075 02:16:49.639 --> 02:16:51.559 couldn't hear anything that was going on in the back, 2076 02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:56.000 and I went, that was fucking brilliant. It was brilliant, 2077 02:16:58.120 --> 02:17:03.600 and it was respectful and kind and treated me like 2078 02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:07.840 a human, you know, And I went, Wow, that's clever. 2079 02:17:08.440 --> 02:17:11.200 She knew it, she knew what would work, and she 2080 02:17:11.399 --> 02:17:14.159 never did that. She never put up that partition. She 2081 02:17:14.319 --> 02:17:19.120 wasn't going to be that right celebrity right, and even that, 2082 02:17:19.319 --> 02:17:22.440 I mean back then, she got it. She was more 2083 02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:25.280 than that, more than a celebrity, what a what a 2084 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:27.719 true star, and what a class act. 2085 02:17:28.680 --> 02:17:32.120 I admit, for a lot of my life I didn't 2086 02:17:32.200 --> 02:17:36.399 understand the appeal of Lyzamnelli, only because I had only 2087 02:17:36.559 --> 02:17:44.760 seen I had only seen like her guest appearances, and like, 2088 02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:49.360 I was like, I don't get it. And then I 2089 02:17:49.639 --> 02:17:55.200 watched the movie Cabaret, uh huh, and I was like, Okay, 2090 02:17:55.239 --> 02:17:59.120 I get it. And then I put that against everything 2091 02:17:59.200 --> 02:18:01.319 else I'd seen, and I was like, Okay, now I 2092 02:18:01.399 --> 02:18:05.159 get it. I understand, and now I love Liza Minelli. 2093 02:18:06.159 --> 02:18:10.399 But I know I truly. And so this would have 2094 02:18:10.520 --> 02:18:16.120 been mid to late nineties, and I can tell you 2095 02:18:17.159 --> 02:18:20.360 part of the conversation was that they were working on 2096 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:26.079 the Duets albums, which was with Frank Sinatra, and that 2097 02:18:26.319 --> 02:18:29.639 was in production, so he was still alive, I guess 2098 02:18:29.760 --> 02:18:33.959 right at that point. And so that was the time 2099 02:18:34.120 --> 02:18:38.559 period and just before she had had hip surgery or 2100 02:18:38.639 --> 02:18:40.280 knee surgery, whichever it was, she might have. 2101 02:18:40.239 --> 02:18:43.079 Had all of it replaced bionic from the waist end. 2102 02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:46.680 I will never forget that evening. And like I said, 2103 02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:48.479 I had to be there before she went on stage 2104 02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:51.879 till she was ready to go to the airport, and 2105 02:18:53.159 --> 02:18:56.479 it was such a lovely experience. And I spent some 2106 02:18:56.760 --> 02:18:59.680 of that time backstage and got to hang out with 2107 02:18:59.799 --> 02:19:04.159 the that you know, the costume folks who worked at 2108 02:19:04.600 --> 02:19:07.959 full time at the music fair, and they were giving 2109 02:19:07.959 --> 02:19:11.159 me all the dirt on who they liked and who 2110 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:14.120 they didn't and who they couldn't stand. And yeah, that 2111 02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:15.959 was fun at fun. 2112 02:19:16.360 --> 02:19:16.680 I love. 2113 02:19:17.159 --> 02:19:21.280 Yeah, we dished. So it was a great evening that 2114 02:19:21.399 --> 02:19:24.120 I will never forget. But I will also never forget 2115 02:19:24.159 --> 02:19:29.079 being left with what a human, what a talented, talented 2116 02:19:29.200 --> 02:19:35.399 human that knows, you know, again how to perform, how 2117 02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:40.040 to leave it all out there and treated everyone with respect. 2118 02:19:40.920 --> 02:19:45.799 So yeah, I love it. That's my Lisa story. Yeah, 2119 02:19:45.920 --> 02:19:49.280 we got to get that framed, okay, because it's to 2120 02:19:49.399 --> 02:19:53.200 tuts and I will never forget her laughing your mother's tuts. 2121 02:19:56.440 --> 02:19:58.040 She thought that was fabulous. 2122 02:19:59.159 --> 02:19:59.680 I mean it is. 2123 02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:01.760 Moving on. What else we got? 2124 02:20:02.360 --> 02:20:04.360 So apparently it's not dead? 2125 02:20:04.639 --> 02:20:07.760 Right. Apparently there was a viral rumor that she had 2126 02:20:08.319 --> 02:20:09.079 she had died. 2127 02:20:09.399 --> 02:20:12.280 Somebody must have watched last holiday while they were high, 2128 02:20:12.719 --> 02:20:15.200 I guess, and they didn't catch the whole story ahead. 2129 02:20:15.319 --> 02:20:22.079 Well, she you know, came out and said, right, okay. 2130 02:20:22.360 --> 02:20:27.280 Great she posts of death are greatly exaggerated exactly. 2131 02:20:27.440 --> 02:20:31.399 She posted a video on her Instagram. Good morning, it's me, Latifa. 2132 02:20:31.600 --> 02:20:34.600 I'm one hundred percent okay. Can't believe what you read 2133 02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:37.399 on the internet or see. Can't believe nothing now right, 2134 02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:44.280 I'm good, peace right. And it's like I've who anyone 2135 02:20:44.399 --> 02:20:47.520 that would say that or believe that, don't know anything 2136 02:20:47.559 --> 02:20:51.719 about her, because you know, I just she she's. 2137 02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:58.120 Everywhere, you know, Yeah, I mean right, you gotta, you gotta. 2138 02:20:59.239 --> 02:21:03.159 And this happened right with celebrities. Happens all the checks 2139 02:21:03.200 --> 02:21:03.879 a source. 2140 02:21:04.000 --> 02:21:04.760 Right exactly. 2141 02:21:05.079 --> 02:21:08.840 It ain't real till it's real. Right, However, when our 2142 02:21:08.920 --> 02:21:14.120 friend posts our death obsessed friend. Yes, posts a death, 2143 02:21:14.360 --> 02:21:16.840 so I know that it's already been confirmed by two 2144 02:21:16.959 --> 02:21:20.479 or three sources. Right before he posts rest in peace 2145 02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:23.319 exactly and says so and so died, So I know 2146 02:21:23.399 --> 02:21:26.360 they're dead, right, because I don't think I've ever seen 2147 02:21:26.440 --> 02:21:28.799 him get it wrong. I don't think. 2148 02:21:30.280 --> 02:21:31.520 I want to say once. 2149 02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:36.920 Yeah, but did they ultimately die like a little bit later, Yes, Yeah, 2150 02:21:37.079 --> 02:21:39.079 they just weren't quite dead when right. 2151 02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:41.799 Okay, so he was only wrong in the timing but 2152 02:21:41.959 --> 02:21:43.680 not in the fact of it, but not in the. 2153 02:21:43.719 --> 02:21:45.959 Fact that it was happening. Yeah, So I guess he's 2154 02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:48.959 gotten even more cautious. He's the one that corrects all 2155 02:21:49.040 --> 02:21:52.159 of the immemorialms on all of the awards shows, like, 2156 02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:54.479 well they left out and then we get that list. 2157 02:21:54.639 --> 02:21:56.239 I actually love that about him. 2158 02:21:56.280 --> 02:21:58.520 And his list is like three times longer than the 2159 02:21:58.600 --> 02:21:59.639 one that he's correcting. 2160 02:21:59.840 --> 02:22:05.200 Right, it's always comprehensive. Use he's really really wonderful for that. 2161 02:22:05.799 --> 02:22:09.280 But yeah, he didn't say that she died, so I exactly. 2162 02:22:09.319 --> 02:22:11.319 It wasn't about to believe it, right, I didn't. 2163 02:22:11.360 --> 02:22:13.239 I didn't see it anywhere, but so that was I 2164 02:22:13.360 --> 02:22:15.559 was like, yeah, Queen Latifa is still around, and I 2165 02:22:15.639 --> 02:22:17.120 didn't know that that was in question. 2166 02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:24.520 So that's all I didn't either. I don't have much more. 2167 02:22:25.639 --> 02:22:30.239 Oh, I've been watching wonder Man Really, which is on 2168 02:22:30.520 --> 02:22:36.319 uh which it's a Marvel series, and it's been out 2169 02:22:36.559 --> 02:22:39.200 for a while because they released all of the episodes 2170 02:22:39.239 --> 02:22:46.680 at once, which was a point of controversy because they 2171 02:22:46.879 --> 02:22:52.159 cast Yahya abdul Matine as as wonder Man. In the comics, 2172 02:22:52.200 --> 02:22:54.239 he's white, and so it's like the whole thing of like, 2173 02:22:54.559 --> 02:22:58.239 why is it when they have a black lead character 2174 02:22:58.479 --> 02:23:01.239 they release all the episodes one time, as opposed to 2175 02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:04.040 metering it out once a week, and even though they 2176 02:23:04.479 --> 02:23:07.120 just did that with iron Heart. I don't know anyway, 2177 02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:09.239 but I'm actually enjoying it. 2178 02:23:09.360 --> 02:23:12.879 I'm like, fine, you do why he gotta be black? 2179 02:23:13.239 --> 02:23:14.000 You just do it? 2180 02:23:14.760 --> 02:23:20.120 Do it? Because no, this is really it's I'm enjoying it. 2181 02:23:20.319 --> 02:23:24.040 And it's like it's not even so much about him 2182 02:23:24.239 --> 02:23:28.879 having powers. It's like about the craft of acting. It's 2183 02:23:28.920 --> 02:23:35.559 about the mechanics of getting a role in Hollywood. But 2184 02:23:36.239 --> 02:23:40.319 the story is he is trying to make make a 2185 02:23:40.559 --> 02:23:42.600 make a go of it in Hollywood as an actor, 2186 02:23:43.559 --> 02:23:48.120 and his dream role of wonder Man has come up, 2187 02:23:48.719 --> 02:23:51.040 and because like he's loved wonder Man since he was 2188 02:23:51.079 --> 02:23:56.920 a kid, and but apparently there's this clause that if 2189 02:23:57.000 --> 02:24:00.360 you have superpowers, you can't be in a movie about 2190 02:24:00.440 --> 02:24:06.079 superpowered individuals because it went really really left once and 2191 02:24:06.239 --> 02:24:09.159 so he actually has superpowers. So he's trying to like, 2192 02:24:10.120 --> 02:24:13.280 how do I expose all of myself as a lover 2193 02:24:13.479 --> 02:24:17.760 of the craft of acting, but still hide major parts 2194 02:24:17.799 --> 02:24:23.120 of myself? Like it's really interesting, Okay, I'm enjoying it. Like, 2195 02:24:23.360 --> 02:24:26.639 and as as a fellow thespian, you would actually. 2196 02:24:26.639 --> 02:24:31.000 Are we picturing like gay men being straight men and character? 2197 02:24:31.239 --> 02:24:31.680 Like what are we? 2198 02:24:31.840 --> 02:24:36.879 I have to hide my superpowers? I mean so that 2199 02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:40.040 I get to portray this part kind of. 2200 02:24:40.159 --> 02:24:42.959 But his whole thing is like if he gets like 2201 02:24:43.239 --> 02:24:49.280 super agitated, then he can like make shit explode, so right, 2202 02:24:49.600 --> 02:24:50.440 so he can't like. 2203 02:24:50.639 --> 02:24:53.159 Well, likewise, when when your superpower is the lack of 2204 02:24:53.200 --> 02:25:00.399 a never mind, Well that's me. Yeah, m hmm, yeah, 2205 02:25:00.760 --> 02:25:02.280 so that's why your friendly. 2206 02:25:03.319 --> 02:25:06.239 It's interesting, damn it. 2207 02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:08.639 It is? 2208 02:25:09.280 --> 02:25:10.639 What the fuck is wonder Man? 2209 02:25:11.399 --> 02:25:14.159 Wonder Man is is a comic book character. Is a 2210 02:25:14.200 --> 02:25:14.920 Marvel character? 2211 02:25:15.079 --> 02:25:17.840 Really, because I only know of wonder Woman. I never 2212 02:25:17.920 --> 02:25:19.040 knew there was a wonder Man. 2213 02:25:19.479 --> 02:25:23.040 Yeah, wonder Man is a wonder Woman is DC wonder Man. 2214 02:25:23.280 --> 02:25:27.239 They do this and wonder Man is Marvel. Yeah that's 2215 02:25:27.319 --> 02:25:29.360 fucked up, completely unrelated. 2216 02:25:29.719 --> 02:25:32.680 Okay, yeah, how about that. I didn't know that there 2217 02:25:32.760 --> 02:25:33.959 was ever anything. 2218 02:25:34.760 --> 02:25:37.959 But he wasn't exactly an A list character in Marvel, 2219 02:25:38.040 --> 02:25:40.719 That's what I'm guessing. But I but I'm really loving 2220 02:25:40.879 --> 02:25:46.159 It's like it's Yahya Abdullah Medan and Ben Kingsley. They're 2221 02:25:46.280 --> 02:25:50.319 like really playing against each other and it's and it's 2222 02:25:50.600 --> 02:25:52.399 again it's about the craft of acting. 2223 02:25:52.479 --> 02:25:53.479 And this is a series. 2224 02:25:53.719 --> 02:25:57.319 Yeah, like I would start it over again for you 2225 02:25:57.440 --> 02:26:00.200 to see what you thought about it, because like it's 2226 02:26:00.239 --> 02:26:01.799 an interesting character study. 2227 02:26:02.120 --> 02:26:06.440 Okay, yeah, all right, so you're recommending Yeah, all right, 2228 02:26:06.639 --> 02:26:08.079 I like it cool. 2229 02:26:08.920 --> 02:26:12.200 And you're almost caught up with your Chicago series. 2230 02:26:12.520 --> 02:26:18.079 I'm in season six of Chicago med which is the 2231 02:26:19.319 --> 02:26:22.799 pandemic year, so I've watched how each of them has 2232 02:26:22.879 --> 02:26:23.920 handled the pandemic. 2233 02:26:24.239 --> 02:26:26.760 Yes, and this is the one the series that came 2234 02:26:27.440 --> 02:26:31.399 the latest in the time in the universe. 2235 02:26:31.600 --> 02:26:33.879 So yes, this is the newest of the three. 2236 02:26:34.280 --> 02:26:35.760 So you're able to catch up faster. 2237 02:26:36.079 --> 02:26:40.040 I started with Chicago PD, which was actually the not 2238 02:26:40.719 --> 02:26:43.959 the oldest is Chicago Fire. Apparently that was the I 2239 02:26:44.040 --> 02:26:50.479 believe that was the beginning of the Chicago world of 2240 02:26:50.600 --> 02:26:54.040 Dick Wolf, and then Chicago p D and then Chicago MED. 2241 02:26:54.319 --> 02:26:54.520 Yes. 2242 02:26:54.840 --> 02:26:58.120 Yeah, at any rate, I'm in season six. 2243 02:26:58.440 --> 02:27:01.159 And you hate way more care characters in Chicago man 2244 02:27:01.239 --> 02:27:01.399 than you. 2245 02:27:03.280 --> 02:27:05.680 Okay, so yeah, I have. 2246 02:27:05.879 --> 02:27:08.639 Never heard you yell at the television as often as 2247 02:27:08.719 --> 02:27:10.559 I have while you're watching this damn show. 2248 02:27:11.760 --> 02:27:13.760 Some people yell at sports. 2249 02:27:15.639 --> 02:27:15.920 Giving. 2250 02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:17.680 I yell at drama shows. 2251 02:27:18.479 --> 02:27:18.760 It is. 2252 02:27:19.200 --> 02:27:21.440 I'll be laying in bed and all of a sudden, 2253 02:27:21.440 --> 02:27:26.159 there he goes, cause you don't bitch, like what is 2254 02:27:26.239 --> 02:27:26.920 going on in there? 2255 02:27:27.479 --> 02:27:31.760 All of the boys are awful. They are like they're 2256 02:27:31.959 --> 02:27:37.879 pretty and awful. Yeah, you know, like awful. The male 2257 02:27:38.040 --> 02:27:43.360 leads are are just oh god. And I've worked with 2258 02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:48.000 surgeons and doctors, et cetera, and they are egotistical and 2259 02:27:48.079 --> 02:27:52.840 full of themselves quite often. But this is more or 2260 02:27:52.959 --> 02:27:56.319 something and it's like they're so pretty and I hate 2261 02:27:56.360 --> 02:28:02.440 them and it's I'm so twist it inside, but really 2262 02:28:02.799 --> 02:28:08.000 like it's like wow, so good character development because that 2263 02:28:08.120 --> 02:28:12.920 they are all flawed individuals right truly and and speaking 2264 02:28:12.959 --> 02:28:15.719 of Yai, but yes, I hate them more than most. 2265 02:28:16.280 --> 02:28:20.440 Ya Ya DaCosta who I remember from I want to say, 2266 02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:26.479 cycle three of Top Model. Is she She has a 2267 02:28:27.639 --> 02:28:31.479 leading role in the show, Okay, And I didn't make 2268 02:28:31.520 --> 02:28:34.440 that connection until I looked her up, because like, she's 2269 02:28:34.520 --> 02:28:38.399 this gorgeous nurse. She's a nurse practitioner. Is that who 2270 02:28:38.479 --> 02:28:38.799 she is? 2271 02:28:40.159 --> 02:28:42.799 She is a nurse on the show, right, Yeah, she 2272 02:28:42.920 --> 02:28:43.879 plays one of the nurses. 2273 02:28:44.040 --> 02:28:47.280 Yeah, and she's like very like smart and capable and good. 2274 02:28:47.159 --> 02:28:49.520 And beautiful and yeah, very good. 2275 02:28:49.840 --> 02:28:52.840 But I'm like, damn, she is so pretty. And then 2276 02:28:53.040 --> 02:28:56.639 I was seeing the name ya Ya da Costa and 2277 02:28:57.040 --> 02:28:58.959 not placing it, and then I looked up who that 2278 02:28:59.120 --> 02:29:00.719 wasn't IMDb, and so I was hard. I was like, 2279 02:29:00.760 --> 02:29:04.120 wait a minute, yeah yeah, And then I hear Tyra 2280 02:29:04.239 --> 02:29:07.760 Banks's voice saying yeah, yeah, come forward, and I looked 2281 02:29:07.799 --> 02:29:12.680 it up, like yep, that's her. So season two of oh, 2282 02:29:12.760 --> 02:29:16.799 cycle two okay, So I was still watching it then, Okay. 2283 02:29:16.680 --> 02:29:18.879 I think so, yeah, I think that's when she was 2284 02:29:19.520 --> 02:29:19.879 on there. 2285 02:29:20.239 --> 02:29:23.000 Yeah, she's terrific, so easily one of the most successful 2286 02:29:23.040 --> 02:29:23.840 people to come out of that. 2287 02:29:23.959 --> 02:29:28.440 Show, perhaps de Moost. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, 2288 02:29:28.600 --> 02:29:30.639 yes she has a big part of Chicago Mad. 2289 02:29:30.760 --> 02:29:31.479 She has a job you. 2290 02:29:31.479 --> 02:29:34.440 Can point to, Yes she does. 2291 02:29:35.079 --> 02:29:39.799 I mean Eva from Cycle whatever that was three four whatever. 2292 02:29:40.200 --> 02:29:47.799 She actually did get a modeling career. But still still ye, right, 2293 02:29:48.440 --> 02:29:48.799 that's all. 2294 02:29:51.760 --> 02:29:54.479 No, no, yeah, she's terrific. She is in Chicago Mad. 2295 02:29:55.000 --> 02:29:57.399 I'm on Season Sex. It's been. 2296 02:29:59.239 --> 02:30:01.719 Do white people like each other on these shows? Because 2297 02:30:01.959 --> 02:30:06.799 we notice how every relationship, almost every relationship. 2298 02:30:07.799 --> 02:30:09.920 They are well in Chicago Med, they kind. 2299 02:30:09.760 --> 02:30:12.680 Of all are like black people marry each other. 2300 02:30:13.639 --> 02:30:16.559 Some black people are married to each other, but the 2301 02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:18.719 white people are all married to people of color. 2302 02:30:18.760 --> 02:30:21.239 I think. I mean, I'm digging it. I just but 2303 02:30:21.319 --> 02:30:25.200 it was like, after all, damn does anybody I know? 2304 02:30:25.719 --> 02:30:28.639 I know, And it's like kind of just a thing 2305 02:30:29.040 --> 02:30:31.280 and I love that, right, And the one character does 2306 02:30:31.360 --> 02:30:37.840 have a transgender sister, right and played by a transactress, 2307 02:30:38.040 --> 02:30:39.840 So you know that's a good thing. And it was 2308 02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:43.959 handled better than it wasn't right I might have done. 2309 02:30:44.559 --> 02:30:47.239 You know, she's not exactly heroin, and of course you 2310 02:30:47.319 --> 02:30:50.079 know she's being beaten up by her boyfriend because we 2311 02:30:50.159 --> 02:30:55.600 can't have training without tragedy but mostly handled respectfully. And 2312 02:30:55.680 --> 02:30:58.440 then and she's the sister of Maggie, who is the 2313 02:30:58.559 --> 02:31:00.840 character one of them that I adore. 2314 02:31:01.159 --> 02:31:05.319 Yes, And because there's so many characters of color on 2315 02:31:05.799 --> 02:31:09.879 this show in particular, I mean throughout the entire Chicago universe, 2316 02:31:09.920 --> 02:31:14.799 but on Chicago Med in particular, you see people of 2317 02:31:14.959 --> 02:31:20.959 color in certain situations that you don't normally see on television. Okay, 2318 02:31:21.719 --> 02:31:26.680 like just the way things are handled. And I'm like, 2319 02:31:27.040 --> 02:31:30.799 I'm digging it, you know. And and and Chicago Med 2320 02:31:31.040 --> 02:31:37.200 deals with different issues of like ethics and and different 2321 02:31:37.319 --> 02:31:41.399 topics in the medical world that I'm surprised that these 2322 02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.200 conversations are being had on television. 2323 02:31:43.239 --> 02:31:47.440 It's very cool. I like, Yeah, And there was a 2324 02:31:47.559 --> 02:31:51.959 March fourth, uh you know, crossover night right where all 2325 02:31:52.079 --> 02:31:54.239 three of them tell the story. And that's happened a 2326 02:31:54.280 --> 02:31:57.360 couple of times. Yes, we're part one, two or three. Yes, 2327 02:31:57.520 --> 02:32:00.639 So now you're at a universe. Well, I'm I'm trying 2328 02:32:00.680 --> 02:32:05.639 to get to that place with Chicago Med. And then 2329 02:32:05.799 --> 02:32:09.120 I'll watch the March fourth event. 2330 02:32:09.639 --> 02:32:10.879 Why you get caught up yet? 2331 02:32:11.280 --> 02:32:14.079 Well, and I keep rewatching those because I watched them. 2332 02:32:15.159 --> 02:32:17.600 Whatever I was watching once I realized it was part 2333 02:32:17.639 --> 02:32:19.200 of something. I watched all of it. 2334 02:32:19.520 --> 02:32:21.760 Right because there was that crossover series about the flesh 2335 02:32:21.799 --> 02:32:22.879 eating virus. 2336 02:32:22.879 --> 02:32:23.399 Right like that. 2337 02:32:23.600 --> 02:32:26.840 But I didn't know most of the characters from the 2338 02:32:26.920 --> 02:32:29.200 other two shows, and now I do, so I keep 2339 02:32:29.360 --> 02:32:31.879 like rewatching them and you can see it in context. 2340 02:32:32.000 --> 02:32:33.920 You know what, I was raised by a television. 2341 02:32:34.280 --> 02:32:35.440 It's becoming an obsession. 2342 02:32:36.520 --> 02:32:39.440 I was raised little television and a lot of time 2343 02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:45.440 my comfort comes from TV. I get it, like I 2344 02:32:45.680 --> 02:32:47.959 just it's where I can zone out and you know, 2345 02:32:48.360 --> 02:32:52.200 I can even learn life lessons and you know, seriously 2346 02:32:52.959 --> 02:32:57.159 it it. This has been a time of resetting my 2347 02:32:57.280 --> 02:33:03.079 nervous system and television helps me, I know, it just does. Yeah. Well, 2348 02:33:03.120 --> 02:33:04.680 and Kathy and I were talking about that, which is 2349 02:33:04.719 --> 02:33:06.639 why she said, some watch gun Smoke, you know what 2350 02:33:06.719 --> 02:33:08.760 I mean? Like she was like, well, you tell't, but 2351 02:33:09.000 --> 02:33:13.440 I said, you know, I've realized recently, like I I 2352 02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:15.760 spent a lot of time in front of a TV 2353 02:33:16.000 --> 02:33:20.639 when I was a kid, and no, there is something 2354 02:33:20.959 --> 02:33:27.120 too just sort of this is new the ability newish, 2355 02:33:27.559 --> 02:33:33.079 the ability to binge. You know, it started back when 2356 02:33:33.959 --> 02:33:36.879 you know cable, like like what was the show that 2357 02:33:37.040 --> 02:33:43.479 was rerunning the channel TNT that was rerunning Law and Order, 2358 02:33:44.079 --> 02:33:48.040 and they would do marathons like on holidays, Labor Day 2359 02:33:48.239 --> 02:33:50.520 or was it whoever it was, they would do like 2360 02:33:50.600 --> 02:33:55.600 these marathons. Yes, and I fell in love with marathons 2361 02:33:55.639 --> 02:33:57.879 where you could just sit there all night, all day 2362 02:33:57.959 --> 02:34:02.079 and do nothing else but watch Chowacter character show in order. 2363 02:34:02.280 --> 02:34:08.239 Usually. Well, because of that, we're now seeing how certain shows, 2364 02:34:08.559 --> 02:34:12.799 particularly shows from like the eighties and nineties, weren't necessarily 2365 02:34:12.959 --> 02:34:17.079 intended to be bin. They were not because continuity is 2366 02:34:17.120 --> 02:34:20.079 a thing that they were not paying attention to. 2367 02:34:20.399 --> 02:34:24.280 And dear God, did they work under a formula right 2368 02:34:24.440 --> 02:34:27.479 that right that we repeated too much. 2369 02:34:27.559 --> 02:34:31.079 Like the like the Golden Girls in particular, like there 2370 02:34:31.120 --> 02:34:35.479 will be like a story element, like if it's a 2371 02:34:35.559 --> 02:34:38.479 running joke with a character, then it runs through their 2372 02:34:38.680 --> 02:34:42.040 entire arc. But sometimes it's like, well didn't you have 2373 02:34:42.440 --> 02:34:43.520 another daughter? 2374 02:34:43.959 --> 02:34:44.399 Right right? 2375 02:34:44.799 --> 02:34:47.879 Well, that used to happen all the time that I 2376 02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:52.719 when happy days, Like the Pilot, there was another whole brother, 2377 02:34:53.159 --> 02:34:56.600 Chuck I think his name was. There were three kids, 2378 02:34:57.360 --> 02:34:59.680 and then suddenly he was never around. 2379 02:35:00.120 --> 02:35:03.399 Well he just never happened on the cosmic, on the 2380 02:35:04.479 --> 02:35:11.000 on the Lisa Bonet show. Yes, in the in the 2381 02:35:11.040 --> 02:35:16.399 first episode, there was no Sondra Saunder didn't show up 2382 02:35:16.440 --> 02:35:18.159 until like episode four of and she's. 2383 02:35:18.079 --> 02:35:19.440 Like the oldest kid, right. 2384 02:35:19.760 --> 02:35:22.440 They didn't write her in until like the third or 2385 02:35:22.440 --> 02:35:25.479 fourth episode because in the very first episode there was 2386 02:35:25.559 --> 02:35:30.319 a joke Cliff, why do we have four children because 2387 02:35:30.360 --> 02:35:31.280 we didn't want five? 2388 02:35:32.440 --> 02:35:37.799 Right, that's right, that's right. Yeah, see, and then all 2389 02:35:37.840 --> 02:35:41.280 of a sudden, here's this other character that didn't exist before. 2390 02:35:41.559 --> 02:35:43.680 Yeah. And that was also they had a different set 2391 02:35:43.799 --> 02:35:46.600 for the house and it was the first, last and 2392 02:35:46.719 --> 02:35:49.760 only time we ever saw was there. Oh yeah, the 2393 02:35:49.799 --> 02:35:54.799 set was completely different, completely, or somewhat. I think the 2394 02:35:55.079 --> 02:35:57.680 kitchen might have been the same, but the living room 2395 02:35:57.799 --> 02:36:02.559 was different. Yeah, as much. I know, my obsession of 2396 02:36:02.639 --> 02:36:05.079 The Golden Girls is only rival by my obsession of 2397 02:36:05.159 --> 02:36:05.520 that show. 2398 02:36:05.680 --> 02:36:09.920 Okay, that's true. Yeah, and I mean I've seen that 2399 02:36:10.040 --> 02:36:11.520 happen where it changes. 2400 02:36:11.840 --> 02:36:14.879 Yeah, it was just the first episode, just the pilot. 2401 02:36:15.159 --> 02:36:18.079 Right, It's usually the pilot is different from the set 2402 02:36:18.159 --> 02:36:20.600 that they you know, once the show is picked up. 2403 02:36:20.879 --> 02:36:23.000 Right, the rest of the series was the same house, 2404 02:36:23.239 --> 02:36:25.559 but that pilot was the first, last, and only time 2405 02:36:25.639 --> 02:36:30.760 we ever saw Claire dressed up in like house cleaning clothes, 2406 02:36:30.840 --> 02:36:33.680 Like she had her hair in a kerchief and she 2407 02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:39.840 had an apron. Uh huh. Yeah, like she was in housewife. 2408 02:36:39.920 --> 02:36:44.799 Most she was still a lawyer, right, but cleaning her 2409 02:36:44.840 --> 02:36:45.319 own house. 2410 02:36:45.479 --> 02:36:48.680 Yeah, that was the first, last and only time in 2411 02:36:49.479 --> 02:36:53.319 eight seasons I saw that. What Yeah, the very next 2412 02:36:53.479 --> 02:36:56.159 episode she was quaffed and snack. 2413 02:36:56.280 --> 02:36:58.559 Now, while the maid may not have been one of 2414 02:36:58.600 --> 02:37:00.799 the central characters, she existed. 2415 02:37:02.319 --> 02:37:04.680 I think the maid was the five children who lived 2416 02:37:04.680 --> 02:37:04.879 in there. 2417 02:37:05.040 --> 02:37:09.280 Okay, were that either way? Either way other than you 2418 02:37:09.360 --> 02:37:11.440 know what I saw and I checked it because I'm like, 2419 02:37:11.600 --> 02:37:14.840 I hate it when people just post stuff randomly, buddy. 2420 02:37:14.840 --> 02:37:20.159 It was true in both Good Times and the Jeffersons. 2421 02:37:20.959 --> 02:37:24.959 At both Esther Roll and Isabelle Sandford were twenty years 2422 02:37:25.239 --> 02:37:30.159 older than the actor playing their husband, m Estherwroll was 2423 02:37:30.239 --> 02:37:32.799 twenty years older than John Amos. I knew that, and 2424 02:37:33.600 --> 02:37:36.440 isabel Sandford was twenty years older than Sherman Hemsley. 2425 02:37:36.719 --> 02:37:37.399 I learned that. 2426 02:37:37.719 --> 02:37:43.479 Yeah it worked. I had no idea, but yes, they were. Yeah, 2427 02:37:43.719 --> 02:37:46.799 there was a big difference in age and where the 2428 02:37:46.879 --> 02:37:50.799 woman was considerably older. Because it just happened. I was 2429 02:37:50.879 --> 02:37:53.840 looking up the actress from the closer, and that was 2430 02:37:53.920 --> 02:38:01.719 saying the actress that played her parents were considerably different 2431 02:38:01.719 --> 02:38:04.000 in age. It was at least twenty years if not thirty. 2432 02:38:04.360 --> 02:38:04.959 Interesting. 2433 02:38:05.239 --> 02:38:10.879 Yeah, yeah, and it worked, it absolutely did. I don't 2434 02:38:10.920 --> 02:38:12.799 know why I brought that up. I propos of nothing, 2435 02:38:13.319 --> 02:38:15.920 but there were these age differences, because what did we 2436 02:38:16.120 --> 02:38:21.159 just oh oh oh on Chicago Fire. I looked up 2437 02:38:21.879 --> 02:38:26.159 Herman's wife. Herman is played by the actor who was 2438 02:38:26.239 --> 02:38:31.680 also in you know, the one with the social actuaries, 2439 02:38:32.239 --> 02:38:34.559 the Sex and the City. He was the actor in 2440 02:38:34.639 --> 02:38:37.959 Sex and the City, that dude. 2441 02:38:38.079 --> 02:38:40.280 Oh oh oh oh Herman. Okay, yeah, and. 2442 02:38:40.399 --> 02:38:43.760 He's one of the in Chicago Fire. Right, and the 2443 02:38:43.840 --> 02:38:46.000 one playing his wife could be his daughter. 2444 02:38:46.879 --> 02:38:52.440 But look look good, right, But that was gonna sound shade, 2445 02:38:52.440 --> 02:38:53.079 and I don't want to be sha. 2446 02:38:53.280 --> 02:38:55.680 She's in her forties and he's like in his six 2447 02:38:56.120 --> 02:38:57.920 sixty or in his sixties. 2448 02:38:58.040 --> 02:38:58.239 Yeah. 2449 02:38:58.920 --> 02:39:02.520 Yeah, there's a big difference in age, but they look 2450 02:39:02.639 --> 02:39:05.079 like they could be a couple. He looks a little younger, 2451 02:39:05.159 --> 02:39:07.879 she looks a little whatever. But I went but but 2452 02:39:08.520 --> 02:39:11.360 I don't know. Something made me look them up because 2453 02:39:11.399 --> 02:39:14.600 I was like, she's a lot younger than and then 2454 02:39:14.639 --> 02:39:21.200 I sheep in fact day can Yeah, how did I 2455 02:39:21.280 --> 02:39:21.639 get on that? 2456 02:39:21.879 --> 02:39:24.760 I have no idea. We were talking about television. 2457 02:39:25.840 --> 02:39:29.040 Oh you know why because you said Claire hus will 2458 02:39:29.120 --> 02:39:31.360 never cleaned her house, and I was thinking of television 2459 02:39:31.360 --> 02:39:33.479 shows where the maid was actually an integral part, and 2460 02:39:33.520 --> 02:39:35.000 I thought of the Jeffersons, and then I. 2461 02:39:35.040 --> 02:39:39.600 Thought of okay, okay, okay, that made. 2462 02:39:39.479 --> 02:39:41.559 That article that I just read, I'm with you on that, 2463 02:39:41.719 --> 02:39:43.600 and then I checked the accuracy. 2464 02:39:44.079 --> 02:39:44.440 There you go. 2465 02:39:45.079 --> 02:39:47.360 That actually went back to those other two things. 2466 02:39:47.680 --> 02:39:48.040 There you go. 2467 02:39:48.360 --> 02:39:50.959 Yep, that's how we got here. That's all I got. 2468 02:39:53.319 --> 02:39:53.920 I'm hungry. 2469 02:39:54.239 --> 02:39:59.120 It's time for podcast business. 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