Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2: Shannon, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Hi Shannon.
Speaker 3: Oh Hi, I'm sorry. Hello Jesus. I'm supposed to say
Speaker 3: you broke up and I didn't hear my name.
Speaker 2: Not a problem, my dear. How can I help you?
Speaker 3: Well, I have two things, and I hope I can
Speaker 3: just condense them, so I don't go on and on with.
Speaker 2: Well me too, condense away.
Speaker 3: You know how things stockpile sometimes. Indeed, it seems like
Speaker 3: the first thing my family is well, we'll just say
Speaker 3: my mother is eighty four and my father is eighty seven,
Speaker 3: just a brief history of time. I don't really have
Speaker 3: that much of a connection with my father because he
Speaker 3: was gone since I was two and I'm well into
Speaker 3: my fifties. And my mother, I've kind have stayed away
Speaker 3: from her, so you could say I haven't seen her
Speaker 3: in five years, but she's not too far away, and
Speaker 3: there is someone that I talked to that brings her
Speaker 3: up occasionally. Now, the history of my family is one
Speaker 3: of of of triangulation techniques, heavy politics, deeply entrenched, so
Speaker 3: I've kind of been drawn into that on and off
Speaker 3: throughout my life, and even as a child, I recognized it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so trying that's kind of a sort of a
Speaker 2: pop psychology, yeah, term, but it pulls in, always pulling
Speaker 2: in a third party, scapegoating, all playing both ends against
Speaker 2: the middle of those types of things.
Speaker 3: Right, And you know that's an old that's an old game.
Speaker 3: It goes goes way back to the beginning of time. Sure,
Speaker 3: but as a child you don't understand it. I've spent
Speaker 3: years trying to figure out what that was and how
Speaker 3: how it's actually affected me, to the point that at
Speaker 3: this stage in my life, I've totally isolated myself from it.
Speaker 3: That's the only way I can deal with it, because
Speaker 3: otherwise I get sucked back in.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's bring you to today and your questions
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: I can't have the family experience that is portrayed, you know,
Speaker 3: in the world, the one that we're supposed to have,
Speaker 3: that we're pressured to have. And you know, my mother's
Speaker 3: getting older, and I don't know how I'm supposed to behave.
Speaker 3: I would like to interact with my mother, but there's
Speaker 3: so many danger zones, not only with my mother but
Speaker 3: who she is, you know, who the other people she
Speaker 3: draws into the picture that create problems, and to me,
Speaker 3: it really is a dangerous place to be. But I
Speaker 3: have feelings about my mother, you know. But after working
Speaker 3: through this, after all these years, I've come to the point,
Speaker 3: and this was the question I had to your person
Speaker 3: to answer the phone. Is is it possible that you
Speaker 3: you can't make peace with your family and you have
Speaker 3: to make peace with that?
Speaker 2: Yes? And oftentimes really know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because you know, if you're gnashing of the teeth
Speaker 3: and soul searching and all that, you know, really self analyzation.
Speaker 3: You know, can you come to a place, you know
Speaker 3: where you know for sure that you you can't go
Speaker 3: back there?
Speaker 2: Well, you can define define certain you know, fair areas
Speaker 2: first of all, Norman Rockwellian type. Uh, you know, turkey
Speaker 2: coming out, piping hot and family sitting around and all
Speaker 2: of that stuff doesn't exist and shouldn't exist. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: not it's you're not seeking perfection. What you are seeking
Speaker 2: is is excellence, which is to spend time with you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of what you end up hitting on the
Speaker 2: way to perfection that everybody wants. That's important. And uh,
Speaker 2: it's not that that you're ever going to hit that
Speaker 2: expectations is the killer of all things, this kind of
Speaker 2: notion that, well, I expect the family should be this
Speaker 2: what you should expect is fairness and the lack of
Speaker 2: hostility and humanness to one another and familiarity and all
Speaker 2: these things. And you play a part in that with
Speaker 2: your mother. In the case of your question with your mother,
Speaker 2: it's really about defining your kind of borders and saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is how I will see her. I will see
Speaker 2: her on my terms in places of safety that I
Speaker 2: feel secure, and that's it. And you won't, you know,
Speaker 2: you find them on their level. It's interesting that if
Speaker 2: if your mother was born without legs, or heaven forbid,
Speaker 2: in some accident where she didn't have legs, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: be calling me saying, you know, I am a little
Speaker 2: upset because I like to run and my mother can't run,
Speaker 2: so so I don't want to be around her because
Speaker 2: she can't run. You'd find ways to spend time with
Speaker 2: her in places she was capable of enjoying that mutual time.
Speaker 3: Correct, well, I've done that. I've done that, and even
Speaker 3: then it seriously became a danger zone.
Speaker 2: This then it shows, but then it shows that she
Speaker 2: has more damage there. If she has more damage or
Speaker 2: she can't interact with you, then that's the equivalent of
Speaker 2: her being dead emotionally. And in that case, that's a
Speaker 2: place where you have to come to peace with and
Speaker 2: that that's not your family unit. If family unit is
Speaker 2: not just your biological family. If you pull away from everyone,
Speaker 2: that's something you've done. Pulling away from those that hurts
Speaker 2: you is one thing, but assuming everyone's going to hurt
Speaker 2: you is just silliness.
Speaker 3: Okay. Second part of that question is if that person,
Speaker 3: I know, I can't control people, but my child, Okay,
Speaker 3: he's grown, he's a professional, he has had a life.
Speaker 3: This my mother. You know, I've never tried to control
Speaker 3: her relationships because I understand how why people do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I've.
Speaker 3: Risen above it, and I understand that she has to
Speaker 3: do that, and that's her, that's her. But if if
Speaker 3: she's before she leaves this world, is trying to infect
Speaker 3: my child with that? And all myself left is prayer.
Speaker 2: But how so he's trying to infect your child with
Speaker 2: what with the with the same.
Speaker 3: Kind of talking about what family is, as if as
Speaker 3: if she knows that's what family is I have to
Speaker 3: trust that my son can understand.
Speaker 2: Absolutely you're the one that gave him the tools, but
Speaker 2: this exactly, and if you've you've got to be able
Speaker 2: to show examples of these things and not just demonize
Speaker 2: people or say, well, they're going to do this. People
Speaker 2: are who they are. And and my my biggest fear, Shannon,
Speaker 2: is that you throw a lot of terms around and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of understanding, but I don't hear a
Speaker 2: lot of application. And those two things can be very
Speaker 2: detrimental because I hear this a lot in kind of
Speaker 2: the self help movement and these types of things, is
Speaker 2: that people learn terms or learn how to self diagnose,
Speaker 2: but then don't apply it in their life. And I'm
Speaker 2: and you know, we're only limited in our time today
Speaker 2: to talk about it, so we're not going to hear everything.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you these things so that you can be
Speaker 2: careful and see signs of problems. But it's very easy
Speaker 2: to learn the terms and go, oh, well, I'm doing
Speaker 2: this or I'm feeling this, or I understand this, and
Speaker 2: not apply them. If you are in a place of healthiness,
Speaker 2: then people will want to be around you. To me,
Speaker 2: I feel you pulling away from everybody, and that's not
Speaker 2: a healthy place to be. You need to be healthy
Speaker 2: and in a place of life light, and the cockroaches
Speaker 2: don't want to come your way because cockroaches don't want
Speaker 2: to play in light. So you build kind of an
Speaker 2: area where the sun comes in and shines and there's
Speaker 2: you know, productivity going on, whether it be hobbies or
Speaker 2: interests or things like this, not just sitting on the
Speaker 2: couch pondering the world affairs or problems or these types
Speaker 2: of things, but really engaging life and letting it engage
Speaker 2: you back. And people will want to be around that naturally.
Speaker 2: But if you start pulling away from people, if you say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, my mom has hurt me and I don't
Speaker 2: have the best relationship with her. But to your son,
Speaker 2: you say that doesn't mean that I don't want you
Speaker 2: to have a relationship with her. But if she ever
Speaker 2: does anything that makes you feel bad about yourself or
Speaker 2: hurts you, I want you. I want you to tell me,
Speaker 2: and I want to be a place where you feel
Speaker 2: safe and things. But just because I had a bad
Speaker 2: relationship with her or don't have a healthy one, doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that you can't just be aware of pitfalls and
Speaker 2: know that I'm here for you should they occur. But
Speaker 2: you know, you may have more similarities with your mom
Speaker 2: than you think, and that brings up all kinds of
Speaker 2: other headbutting. But ultimately there's nothing wrong with people defining
Speaker 2: their own you know, boundaries and saying you have to
Speaker 2: come here in this context, in this way. I just
Speaker 2: don't want you to shut out everyone in your life. Mark,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4: Hi, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm well, How can I help you?
Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. Well, I'm hoping you can
Speaker 4: clear a couple of things up for me, Yes, sir,
Speaker 4: being that there you know, the existence of several for
Speaker 4: lack of a better term, like mainstream religions exist in
Speaker 4: different parts of the planet, and apparently we're born at
Speaker 4: different times. How do you I'm having the problem with
Speaker 4: one thing is know he you know. And obviously people
Speaker 4: are very uh you know, devout to their own religion,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't make sense that all of them can.
Speaker 2: Well, no, the battles between the religion. There's an old
Speaker 2: saying that that they can all be wrong, but they
Speaker 2: can't all be right because the fact that that by
Speaker 2: the very nature of these belief systems, Mark, they contradict
Speaker 2: each other, and they can't all be right, but they
Speaker 2: can all be wrong. So are you asking what's the
Speaker 2: best way to decide which one's right?
Speaker 4: Well, not necessarily which one is right, but but why
Speaker 4: you know why, let's say Christianity is I mean I
Speaker 4: was I was raised Catholic. Okay, so you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know a whole lot about a lot of the
Speaker 4: other religions, you know, enough to be staying or such
Speaker 4: about it, you know, but you know, I do know
Speaker 4: that they are diametrically opposed in a lot of in
Speaker 4: a lot of areas, and you know they can't coexist.
Speaker 4: And well certain you know, like the Muslims, the the.
Speaker 2: Hardcore, well they can they could coexist emotionally, and you
Speaker 2: know intellectually they're allowed to co exist. That when it
Speaker 2: comes to the different belief systems, Mark, they you have
Speaker 2: to weigh at all against each other. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is why it becomes a personal search. If if you
Speaker 2: look at a mountain, or you look at you know
Speaker 2: in days gone past, where they had to create roads,
Speaker 2: they there were you know, it depended where you started
Speaker 2: from to where you made the road. And you kind
Speaker 2: of cut it through this way and cut through that way,
Speaker 2: But sooner or later one path seemed to run ahead
Speaker 2: of the rest because it was probably more efficient and
Speaker 2: better for everyone. So those little trails kind of went
Speaker 2: by the wayside, and then you had highways and byways
Speaker 2: and all of these things. So when it comes to
Speaker 2: a belief system, you start asking yourself, well, which one's
Speaker 2: right or are they all wrong? And that's the unfortunate
Speaker 2: thing is a lot of people will say they're all
Speaker 2: wrong because it takes too much to kind of decipher.
Speaker 2: But it really doesn't if you take the time. Regardless
Speaker 2: of where you grow up, when you're raised, you have
Speaker 2: the ability to change your mind. You can look around
Speaker 2: and say, you know what, it doesn't make sense to
Speaker 2: me anymore, or I don't like what it stands for.
Speaker 2: What have you? You can search and if there is
Speaker 2: a belief system out there that's worth its weight, it'll
Speaker 2: be one that adheres to truth. You should be able
Speaker 2: to dig through and continue to find answers that reinforce
Speaker 2: it being true and not having to push it to
Speaker 2: you know, by the wayside and go it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: or it doesn't matter, Oh that's okay. That it believes
Speaker 2: this and we'll just push on through. You should be
Speaker 2: able to get a chunk of truth, and that's part
Speaker 2: of the process, and you need to weigh them against
Speaker 2: each other. Problem comes in everybody thinks of religion as
Speaker 2: an emotional thing, so they start going, Oh, I don't
Speaker 2: want to I don't want to tell that person they're wrong,
Speaker 2: and you don't want to be ugly. But if you're
Speaker 2: searching for truth, that's what I said. If you're a
Speaker 2: devout truth seeker, then you're always going to be fine.
Speaker 2: It's when you just get become devout about one thing
Speaker 2: and you don't want to hear anything else, that's when
Speaker 2: there's problems. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a
Speaker 2: true belief system, just means there's a lot of untrue
Speaker 2: ones as well. Mary, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi. Well, Hello, Mary, Hey,
Speaker 2: how can hey? How can I help you?
Speaker 4: I'm a friend who that all of the prophecies and
Speaker 4: Bible have been completed?
Speaker 2: Is this the case? Well? Has the Second Coming happened yet?
Speaker 4: No, That's why I was wondering, Well.
Speaker 2: Then there's at least one Uh No, all of thees
Speaker 2: have not taken place as of yet, so I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what the agenda or specific nature or what belief
Speaker 2: system are they is the person saying this Christian yes,
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 4: Over the edge. So okay, there was recently what she
Speaker 4: called a modern day prophet at their church. Okay, after
Speaker 4: that that was they.
Speaker 3: Started changing their life.
Speaker 4: And I'm kind of getting grief about buying a new
Speaker 4: house and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's okay. Without saying the name of the church,
Speaker 2: I would say that that that type of movement called
Speaker 2: the shepherding movement and things like that is where the
Speaker 2: church is really active in telling you who you can marry,
Speaker 2: and what house you can buy and when to buy,
Speaker 2: and what to do with your money and these types
Speaker 2: of things. That's not a healthy church. Now, I'm only
Speaker 2: getting the information you're giving to me. But I would
Speaker 2: say that from just a little bit that you've told me,
Speaker 2: it's not a church that I would recommend or that
Speaker 2: I would you know, endorse in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: So those practices start getting into some heretical teachings in
Speaker 2: the church. So that is just my thought to you.
Speaker 2: And as far as the academic side of the question, no,
Speaker 2: all of the prophecies haven't been fulfilled because the Book
Speaker 2: of Revelation talks about end times and so you're still here.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how else other that you could prove
Speaker 2: it than just by going, well, you're still here and
Speaker 2: this show notwithstanding wink wink, nudge nudge, the second Coming
Speaker 2: has not occurred. So that would put that in a
Speaker 2: very difficult position to prove on her end. Jeff, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the Jesus Christ Show. Well, Jesus, Hi, Jeff, what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: Well, my question is basically I was without a job,
Speaker 1: feeling a desperation, and I have a child, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't just for myself, it's it's there's nothing like the
Speaker 1: desperation of a parent with a kid and in need.
Speaker 1: So I didn't have any work and basically it was
Speaker 1: out of money. It was starting to lose everything, and
Speaker 1: I got a job. Now, the difference in my joy
Speaker 1: and feeling from the desperation to the security of the
Speaker 1: job was is, you know, unexplainable. But my question is
Speaker 1: basically surrounded around should I be thinking God in that
Speaker 1: time of desperation, thanking him for that, just as well
Speaker 1: as when I got the job, thanking him and because.
Speaker 4: It really.
Speaker 1: Toils with my mind as far as you know what
Speaker 1: is about this joy thing and the circumstance. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just a human being. I'm not a saint, so
Speaker 1: I don't feel I don't feel joyful when I'm about
Speaker 1: to lose my place, you know, my place to live
Speaker 1: and I have a kid to house.
Speaker 2: Of course not I mean if you're going to naturally
Speaker 2: feel the pain in the situation and get lost in that.
Speaker 2: But in the perspective of God, God wants you to
Speaker 2: see the fact that God never leaves you, and that
Speaker 2: out of all the things, if you had to choose
Speaker 2: to lose, hopefully God would be the last thing you'd
Speaker 2: want to lose. Therefore, there's always joy in the presence
Speaker 2: of God, so says Scripture. And it's the fullness of joy.
Speaker 2: The fullness of joy is not just the you know
Speaker 2: in rapture, in the in the yelling and jumping. If
Speaker 2: you look at the Old Testament, often in the Old
Speaker 2: Testament you see that there's an experiential last back to
Speaker 2: joy that they're when during a festival and they're making
Speaker 2: noise and they're singing, and they're out in the streets,
Speaker 2: and that's a different type of expression. There's going to
Speaker 2: be another part of joy in this fullness of joy
Speaker 2: that is odd to humans because it's you're used to thinking, well,
Speaker 2: joy and happiness have to be some sort of elation
Speaker 2: based on this thing that's happening to me. But it's
Speaker 2: not about that either. You are in a state of
Speaker 2: joy because you know there is a God who loves
Speaker 2: you and that has that God has a.
Speaker 1: Plan for you, and should I thank Him for the
Speaker 1: like that, uh, you know, like not having just as
Speaker 1: well as having.
Speaker 2: Of course, you should always pray for those things that
Speaker 2: God gives you and the things that God takes away
Speaker 2: because for whatever reason they aren't the best thing for you.
Speaker 2: And there are things that just land in the middle
Speaker 2: where they're just you know, poor decisions, or that that
Speaker 2: season has ended and it's time to move on to
Speaker 2: something else or whatever.
Speaker 1: Bible So you're saying that the Bible does say that
Speaker 1: we could be joyful in the midst of the like
Speaker 1: the desperation of like losing my place and not having
Speaker 1: any money or anything.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, it's because you're you're not. When your joy
Speaker 2: is there only because of things, then you're that is
Speaker 2: where you're seeking your You're you're sinking the entirety of
Speaker 2: yourself into those things.
Speaker 1: Well, I know we say things, but when you have,
Speaker 1: when you have to feed your kid, it's like it
Speaker 1: means much more than things.
Speaker 2: Yet I I understand there's a process through all of that. However,
Speaker 2: if you're trusting in God to see other opportunities or
Speaker 2: to use your skills, and I don't mean in a
Speaker 2: lazy sense, if you're sitting back and you're not doing
Speaker 2: anything and you're not the very skills you have to
Speaker 2: offer anybody for money, Jeff, they come from God. So
Speaker 2: to have joy in the fact that you even have
Speaker 2: those skills. There there's joy to be had in all situations,
Speaker 2: being and small, and all trials, but the focus is off.
Speaker 2: Of course, you want to feed your child, and there's
Speaker 2: no joy in seeing a hungry child. But there's joy.
Speaker 2: There's joy knowing that there are places that will feed you.
Speaker 2: There's joy and knowing that there are places that are
Speaker 2: designed to give you a leg up. There's a joy
Speaker 2: in knowing that that that that love or that even
Speaker 2: desire for charity comes from the direct heart of God.
Speaker 2: Man doesn't sit there going get yeah, I want help
Speaker 2: for the sake of help. Those are propulsions from God.
Speaker 2: And to be in that state of understanding that that
Speaker 2: you know, rejoicing in hope, as it says in Romans
Speaker 2: twelve twelve, that you are rejoicing in not what's in
Speaker 2: front of you, but what you know, what is what
Speaker 2: is capable because God is there, and that very that
Speaker 2: very capability wouldn't exist without God, that very possibility of hope.
Speaker 2: And to consider all things joy, it says in James
Speaker 2: one two. When you encounter various trials, why because those
Speaker 2: trials are going to strengthen you. They're going to build
Speaker 2: up your character and who you are. There as many things.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants the simple way and believes the simple way
Speaker 2: is the Godly way. And it's not if it comes
Speaker 2: out of a box and you mix it with water
Speaker 2: and then you have a blessed day and a blessed life.
Speaker 2: That's not how it works. Trials by fire and the things,
Speaker 2: the things that you learn the most in life. The
Speaker 2: reason why you're calling me today is because of pain,
Speaker 2: because of sadness, because of a trial that moved you intensely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I couldn't believe the difference in fe in
Speaker 1: my feeling of the no security and that security all saiden.
Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, everything's okay, and it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like that's very deep, you know, deep, it seems like
Speaker 1: it's circumstantial.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope not that that that belongs in a
Speaker 2: place where you are now tasting of a of a
Speaker 2: more deep and fulfilling joy, a real joy, Because if
Speaker 2: it's just about stuff coming in and out of your life, Jeff,
Speaker 2: then what is that?
Speaker 1: Well, isn't that God itself?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: Is it that circumstance God?
Speaker 2: No, it's a piece of the of the gift of
Speaker 2: life and being able to experience these the things around
Speaker 2: you and making decisions, good decisions, hopefully godly decisions that
Speaker 2: inlign themselves with the will of God so that life
Speaker 2: has productivity and meaning while you are here for the
Speaker 2: limited time that you're here, and those all point to God, sure,
Speaker 2: but they're there. The fullness of joy comes from understanding that.
Speaker 2: It's that there's no one thing that's going to bring
Speaker 2: you all of that. The fullness is understanding that that
Speaker 2: comes from God and God alone. You know, even in
Speaker 2: times of pain, I've seen people that are very sick
Speaker 2: and they've been married for a long time and one
Speaker 2: of them is sick, and regardless of how much pain
Speaker 2: they're in, their love never ceases for their mate. They
Speaker 2: still have that intense love even though they're in intense pain,
Speaker 2: because the pain shouldn't dictate whether the love's there or not.
Speaker 2: And likewise, any pain in life shouldn't dictate the joy
Speaker 2: of the believer and the understanding that God is with you,
Speaker 2: and that God created you, and that God has a
Speaker 2: purpose for you, that God loves you and is with
Speaker 2: you even in pain. And it's that's just the opposite
Speaker 2: of what the world teaches you. From moment one. Moment one,
Speaker 2: they say, Okay, you come out running. You grab as
Speaker 2: much as you can make, as much as you can
Speaker 2: live in the biggest house, that you can drive, the
Speaker 2: most beautiful car, that you can get the most beautiful woman,
Speaker 2: or get the smartest man, or I guess you can
Speaker 2: get the most beautiful man and the smartest woman as well.
Speaker 2: And you get those, You get those things, and you're
Speaker 2: good to go. And then what you do is you
Speaker 2: find out later these people never had joy at all.
Speaker 2: They had some fun times hedonistically, they got to do
Speaker 2: what they want when they wanted to, and that felt nice,
Speaker 2: But it doesn't sustain itself. It can't because it's just
Speaker 2: things on top of things on top of things. There's
Speaker 2: no there's never really that that understanding. It's almost like
Speaker 2: holding up a small pocket mirror and having joy standing
Speaker 2: behind you. It's like, well, yeah, you see a bit
Speaker 2: of the face, maybe the eyes, you can make it out. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think that's joy, and you see it, but it's not.
Speaker 2: You're really just holding the mirror. You're not even really
Speaker 2: holding joy. And that's what these materialistic things can do oftentimes,
Speaker 2: is that people begin to think that they're the joy
Speaker 2: and they're not, and they go through this manic cycle
Speaker 2: of where they have to buy things to make themselves happy,
Speaker 2: and then that doesn't work, so you have to buy
Speaker 2: bigger things. That's never going to work. And you don't
Speaker 2: want that for your child either. You want you want
Speaker 2: comfort and security and that doesn't always come from things. Right.
Speaker 1: I noticed that my kid was almost more okay when
Speaker 1: we were in desperation than I was, and that says
Speaker 1: a lot about, you know, the innocence of kids, because
Speaker 1: they for some she, for some reason, wasn't as panicked
Speaker 1: as I was. And I'm all caught up in the
Speaker 1: things like you're saying.
Speaker 2: Well oftentimes, and I'm glad you pointed that out, because
Speaker 2: that's usually the case. A lot of times. The kids
Speaker 2: aren't freaked out. One. Kids are going to watch you
Speaker 2: on how to react. However, they don't see the dire
Speaker 2: straits that you do, because kids are much more hopeful
Speaker 2: than adults. You see the problems and the hurdles, and
Speaker 2: that's all you see. But the child looks the situation says, well,
Speaker 2: all I know that I'm with my dad more than
Speaker 2: I used to be when he was working all the
Speaker 2: time or when he was this. That's because that's what
Speaker 2: comforts the child. The child so knows that you love
Speaker 2: them and that you will do anything to provide for them,
Speaker 2: that they stay in that state of comfort. And what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the place I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: you two is that right behind you is your father
Speaker 2: in heaven, and he wants you to have a healthy
Speaker 2: and balanced but similar attitude as your child, knowing that
Speaker 2: God will provide, not when you're sitting on a couch
Speaker 2: with your finger in your nose. You need to be
Speaker 2: productive and active in the process. But that your father
Speaker 2: in heaven doesn't want to see you sitting with nothing,
Speaker 2: and that your child is at peace knowing well, Dad's
Speaker 2: right here, He's going to take care of me. And
Speaker 2: that peace is actual joy. Why doesn't interrupt the child?
Speaker 2: Doesn't The child's life is like everything's a okay because
Speaker 2: that child, in their simplicity, believes it's all going to
Speaker 2: be okay. Is embedded in hope, embedded in comfort, embedded
Speaker 2: in joy, and that's all the That's the same place
Speaker 2: I'm asking you to get to, Nikki quickly. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4: Hi, yis well. My questions theological and it is whether
Speaker 4: or not once you get to.
Speaker 2: Have and you can never be kicked out only for
Speaker 2: smoking or talking too loud, you will or like no on.
Speaker 2: Once you're in heaven, you're in. The only ones that
Speaker 2: can get kicked out of heaven have been kicked out
Speaker 2: of heaven, and that was Satan and the fallen angels.
Speaker 2: And that's because angels are inherently different than human beings
Speaker 2: in the sense that although they're creation, they have the
Speaker 2: total sume knowledge they will ever have at the point
Speaker 2: of creation because they are in the presence of God
Speaker 2: in a way differently than you are. So in that sense,
Speaker 2: they are like, imagine an eight ounce glass that's filled up.
Speaker 2: That's its full potential. It can never be more than
Speaker 2: that aight OUN's class. So that's kind of what an
Speaker 2: angel is, whereas a human is an empty eight ounce
Speaker 2: glass that's being filled up throughout their life.
Speaker 4: So once you get there, it's impossible to sin.
Speaker 2: Exactly. There is no sin in heaven. There's no tears
Speaker 2: in heaven, there's no rebellion in heaven. None of that
Speaker 2: exists to the human because the human has made the
Speaker 2: decision throughout life fill that glass with understanding and then
Speaker 2: to make a choice that becomes an eternal choice at
Speaker 2: the point of death. So it can't be the same
Speaker 2: reason why somebody can't say forget God, forget God, forget God,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden on the other side
Speaker 2: of death, go oh, I was wrong. I'd like to
Speaker 2: recan't because that choice is made now in full. Otherwise
Speaker 2: you wouldn't. They wouldn't matter what you believed here. So
Speaker 2: the process is different. And once you're you know in
Speaker 2: heaven that is for good, and that's for eternity to
Speaker 2: be in the presence of God, So no getting booted out,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. But just for reference, for those of
Speaker 2: you that are heavy smokers, no you're not going to
Speaker 2: be smoking in heaven. It was just a joke, So
Speaker 2: no smoking in heaven. Thank you so much for taking
Speaker 2: the time to listen to the show. I hope you
Speaker 2: join us every single Sunday, same time, same place, right here.
Speaker 2: Remember these words, I Am with you always.
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