WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.720 You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:11.119 Shannon, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Hi Shannon. 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.320 Oh Hi, I'm sorry. Hello Jesus. I'm supposed to say 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.559 you broke up and I didn't hear my name. 5 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:18.559 Not a problem, my dear. How can I help you? 6 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:21.920 Well, I have two things, and I hope I can 7 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:24.160 just condense them, so I don't go on and on with. 8 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.399 Well me too, condense away. 9 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:32.880 You know how things stockpile sometimes. Indeed, it seems like 10 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:40.799 the first thing my family is well, we'll just say 11 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.280 my mother is eighty four and my father is eighty seven, 12 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.119 just a brief history of time. I don't really have 13 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.640 that much of a connection with my father because he 14 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.399 was gone since I was two and I'm well into 15 00:00:55.439 --> 00:01:00.840 my fifties. And my mother, I've kind have stayed away 16 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:02.560 from her, so you could say I haven't seen her 17 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.799 in five years, but she's not too far away, and 18 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.840 there is someone that I talked to that brings her 19 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:13.680 up occasionally. Now, the history of my family is one 20 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:22.480 of of of triangulation techniques, heavy politics, deeply entrenched, so 21 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.599 I've kind of been drawn into that on and off 22 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:30.959 throughout my life, and even as a child, I recognized it. 23 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.359 Okay, so trying that's kind of a sort of a 24 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:38.519 pop psychology, yeah, term, but it pulls in, always pulling 25 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:43.120 in a third party, scapegoating, all playing both ends against 26 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:44.519 the middle of those types of things. 27 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:46.760 Right, And you know that's an old that's an old game. 28 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.879 It goes goes way back to the beginning of time. Sure, 29 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:53.239 but as a child you don't understand it. I've spent 30 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.079 years trying to figure out what that was and how 31 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.680 how it's actually affected me, to the point that at 32 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:05.840 this stage in my life, I've totally isolated myself from it. 33 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:07.799 That's the only way I can deal with it, because 34 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.360 otherwise I get sucked back in. 35 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.919 Okay, so let's bring you to today and your questions 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:13.199 for me. 37 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:18.240 I can't have the family experience that is portrayed, you know, 38 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.159 in the world, the one that we're supposed to have, 39 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.840 that we're pressured to have. And you know, my mother's 40 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.159 getting older, and I don't know how I'm supposed to behave. 41 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.199 I would like to interact with my mother, but there's 42 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.280 so many danger zones, not only with my mother but 43 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.000 who she is, you know, who the other people she 44 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:44.719 draws into the picture that create problems, and to me, 45 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.599 it really is a dangerous place to be. But I 46 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:52.680 have feelings about my mother, you know. But after working 47 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.319 through this, after all these years, I've come to the point, 48 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.560 and this was the question I had to your person 49 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:03.199 to answer the phone. Is is it possible that you 50 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.639 you can't make peace with your family and you have 51 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:06.520 to make peace with that? 52 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.280 Yes? And oftentimes really know, you. 53 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.719 Know, because you know, if you're gnashing of the teeth 54 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:17.000 and soul searching and all that, you know, really self analyzation. 55 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.840 You know, can you come to a place, you know 56 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.240 where you know for sure that you you can't go 57 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:24.840 back there? 58 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.919 Well, you can define define certain you know, fair areas 59 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:33.159 first of all, Norman Rockwellian type. Uh, you know, turkey 60 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.479 coming out, piping hot and family sitting around and all 61 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.680 of that stuff doesn't exist and shouldn't exist. Uh, it's 62 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.680 not it's you're not seeking perfection. What you are seeking 63 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.360 is is excellence, which is to spend time with you know, 64 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:49.159 it's kind of what you end up hitting on the 65 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:53.280 way to perfection that everybody wants. That's important. And uh, 66 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.199 it's not that that you're ever going to hit that 67 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:58.159 expectations is the killer of all things, this kind of 68 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.759 notion that, well, I expect the family should be this 69 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.520 what you should expect is fairness and the lack of 70 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.120 hostility and humanness to one another and familiarity and all 71 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.439 these things. And you play a part in that with 72 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:18.279 your mother. In the case of your question with your mother, 73 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:24.240 it's really about defining your kind of borders and saying, Okay, 74 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.639 this is how I will see her. I will see 75 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.720 her on my terms in places of safety that I 76 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:35.480 feel secure, and that's it. And you won't, you know, 77 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.600 you find them on their level. It's interesting that if 78 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:43.879 if your mother was born without legs, or heaven forbid, 79 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.879 in some accident where she didn't have legs, you wouldn't 80 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:52.759 be calling me saying, you know, I am a little 81 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:57.000 upset because I like to run and my mother can't run, 82 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.600 so so I don't want to be around her because 83 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.120 she can't run. You'd find ways to spend time with 84 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.399 her in places she was capable of enjoying that mutual time. 85 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.519 Correct, well, I've done that. I've done that, and even 86 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:16.120 then it seriously became a danger zone. 87 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.839 This then it shows, but then it shows that she 88 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.000 has more damage there. If she has more damage or 89 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:26.519 she can't interact with you, then that's the equivalent of 90 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.800 her being dead emotionally. And in that case, that's a 91 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:32.439 place where you have to come to peace with and 92 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.360 that that's not your family unit. If family unit is 93 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:41.439 not just your biological family. If you pull away from everyone, 94 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.680 that's something you've done. Pulling away from those that hurts 95 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.160 you is one thing, but assuming everyone's going to hurt 96 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:49.879 you is just silliness. 97 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.800 Okay. Second part of that question is if that person, 98 00:05:55.079 --> 00:06:00.360 I know, I can't control people, but my child, Okay, 99 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.680 he's grown, he's a professional, he has had a life. 100 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:09.480 This my mother. You know, I've never tried to control 101 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.279 her relationships because I understand how why people do that. 102 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:14.839 Okay, now I've. 103 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.040 Risen above it, and I understand that she has to 104 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:21.240 do that, and that's her, that's her. But if if 105 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:26.000 she's before she leaves this world, is trying to infect 106 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.959 my child with that? And all myself left is prayer. 107 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.519 But how so he's trying to infect your child with 108 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.480 what with the with the same. 109 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.720 Kind of talking about what family is, as if as 110 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:41.319 if she knows that's what family is I have to 111 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.279 trust that my son can understand. 112 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.879 Absolutely you're the one that gave him the tools, but 113 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.480 this exactly, and if you've you've got to be able 114 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:54.439 to show examples of these things and not just demonize 115 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.680 people or say, well, they're going to do this. People 116 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:02.160 are who they are. And and my my biggest fear, Shannon, 117 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.879 is that you throw a lot of terms around and 118 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:07.240 there's a lot of understanding, but I don't hear a 119 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.879 lot of application. And those two things can be very 120 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.920 detrimental because I hear this a lot in kind of 121 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.079 the self help movement and these types of things, is 122 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.399 that people learn terms or learn how to self diagnose, 123 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.439 but then don't apply it in their life. And I'm 124 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:28.720 and you know, we're only limited in our time today 125 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.079 to talk about it, so we're not going to hear everything. 126 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.000 I'm telling you these things so that you can be 127 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.879 careful and see signs of problems. But it's very easy 128 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:39.680 to learn the terms and go, oh, well, I'm doing 129 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.600 this or I'm feeling this, or I understand this, and 130 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.879 not apply them. If you are in a place of healthiness, 131 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.839 then people will want to be around you. To me, 132 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:54.879 I feel you pulling away from everybody, and that's not 133 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.519 a healthy place to be. You need to be healthy 134 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.959 and in a place of life light, and the cockroaches 135 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.639 don't want to come your way because cockroaches don't want 136 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.959 to play in light. So you build kind of an 137 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.959 area where the sun comes in and shines and there's 138 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:16.160 you know, productivity going on, whether it be hobbies or 139 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.600 interests or things like this, not just sitting on the 140 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:24.319 couch pondering the world affairs or problems or these types 141 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:26.720 of things, but really engaging life and letting it engage 142 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:29.680 you back. And people will want to be around that naturally. 143 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.399 But if you start pulling away from people, if you say, hey, 144 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:36.960 you know, my mom has hurt me and I don't 145 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.120 have the best relationship with her. But to your son, 146 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.120 you say that doesn't mean that I don't want you 147 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.399 to have a relationship with her. But if she ever 148 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:45.759 does anything that makes you feel bad about yourself or 149 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.440 hurts you, I want you. I want you to tell me, 150 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.639 and I want to be a place where you feel 151 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.519 safe and things. But just because I had a bad 152 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.919 relationship with her or don't have a healthy one, doesn't 153 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:02.440 mean that you can't just be aware of pitfalls and 154 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.440 know that I'm here for you should they occur. But 155 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.200 you know, you may have more similarities with your mom 156 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.919 than you think, and that brings up all kinds of 157 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.559 other headbutting. But ultimately there's nothing wrong with people defining 158 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.919 their own you know, boundaries and saying you have to 159 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:22.960 come here in this context, in this way. I just 160 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.679 don't want you to shut out everyone in your life. Mark, 161 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:29.120 Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 162 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:30.799 Hi, how are you. 163 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.039 I'm well, How can I help you? 164 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:36.120 Thanks for taking my call. Well, I'm hoping you can 165 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.120 clear a couple of things up for me, Yes, sir, 166 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:43.440 being that there you know, the existence of several for 167 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:47.639 lack of a better term, like mainstream religions exist in 168 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.720 different parts of the planet, and apparently we're born at 169 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:57.759 different times. How do you I'm having the problem with 170 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:02.879 one thing is know he you know. And obviously people 171 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:08.039 are very uh you know, devout to their own religion, 172 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.879 and it doesn't make sense that all of them can. 173 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.559 Well, no, the battles between the religion. There's an old 174 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:20.840 saying that that they can all be wrong, but they 175 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.240 can't all be right because the fact that that by 176 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.440 the very nature of these belief systems, Mark, they contradict 177 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:31.480 each other, and they can't all be right, but they 178 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.960 can all be wrong. So are you asking what's the 179 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.440 best way to decide which one's right? 180 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:44.120 Well, not necessarily which one is right, but but why 181 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:50.279 you know why, let's say Christianity is I mean I 182 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:55.000 was I was raised Catholic. Okay, so you know, I 183 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.039 don't know a whole lot about a lot of the 184 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.399 other religions, you know, enough to be staying or such 185 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.759 about it, you know, but you know, I do know 186 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.960 that they are diametrically opposed in a lot of in 187 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.159 a lot of areas, and you know they can't coexist. 188 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:15.360 And well certain you know, like the Muslims, the the. 189 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:19.559 Hardcore, well they can they could coexist emotionally, and you 190 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.320 know intellectually they're allowed to co exist. That when it 191 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:27.559 comes to the different belief systems, Mark, they you have 192 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.960 to weigh at all against each other. I mean, this 193 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.159 is why it becomes a personal search. If if you 194 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.559 look at a mountain, or you look at you know 195 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.799 in days gone past, where they had to create roads, 196 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.240 they there were you know, it depended where you started 197 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.320 from to where you made the road. And you kind 198 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.039 of cut it through this way and cut through that way, 199 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:55.039 But sooner or later one path seemed to run ahead 200 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:57.159 of the rest because it was probably more efficient and 201 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:00.480 better for everyone. So those little trails kind of went 202 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.720 by the wayside, and then you had highways and byways 203 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.559 and all of these things. So when it comes to 204 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.399 a belief system, you start asking yourself, well, which one's 205 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.039 right or are they all wrong? And that's the unfortunate 206 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:13.519 thing is a lot of people will say they're all 207 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.039 wrong because it takes too much to kind of decipher. 208 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.000 But it really doesn't if you take the time. Regardless 209 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.240 of where you grow up, when you're raised, you have 210 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.840 the ability to change your mind. You can look around 211 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:28.600 and say, you know what, it doesn't make sense to 212 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.000 me anymore, or I don't like what it stands for. 213 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.039 What have you? You can search and if there is 214 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.879 a belief system out there that's worth its weight, it'll 215 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.200 be one that adheres to truth. You should be able 216 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.480 to dig through and continue to find answers that reinforce 217 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.159 it being true and not having to push it to 218 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.279 you know, by the wayside and go it doesn't matter 219 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.879 or it doesn't matter, Oh that's okay. That it believes 220 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.039 this and we'll just push on through. You should be 221 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:59.639 able to get a chunk of truth, and that's part 222 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.440 of the process, and you need to weigh them against 223 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.399 each other. Problem comes in everybody thinks of religion as 224 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:08.840 an emotional thing, so they start going, Oh, I don't 225 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:10.919 want to I don't want to tell that person they're wrong, 226 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.840 and you don't want to be ugly. But if you're 227 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.600 searching for truth, that's what I said. If you're a 228 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.480 devout truth seeker, then you're always going to be fine. 229 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.679 It's when you just get become devout about one thing 230 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.360 and you don't want to hear anything else, that's when 231 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.919 there's problems. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a 232 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.200 true belief system, just means there's a lot of untrue 233 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:40.159 ones as well. Mary, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi. Well, Hello, Mary, Hey, 234 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.000 how can hey? How can I help you? 235 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:47.279 I'm a friend who that all of the prophecies and 236 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:48.720 Bible have been completed? 237 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:53.279 Is this the case? Well? Has the Second Coming happened yet? 238 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.320 No, That's why I was wondering, Well. 239 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.559 Then there's at least one Uh No, all of thees 240 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.519 have not taken place as of yet, so I'm not 241 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:09.240 sure what the agenda or specific nature or what belief 242 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.600 system are they is the person saying this Christian yes, 243 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:15.759 a little. 244 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:19.799 Over the edge. So okay, there was recently what she 245 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:24.519 called a modern day prophet at their church. Okay, after 246 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.240 that that was they. 247 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:27.799 Started changing their life. 248 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.720 And I'm kind of getting grief about buying a new 249 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:31.720 house and stuff. 250 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.159 Oh, that's okay. Without saying the name of the church, 251 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:40.399 I would say that that that type of movement called 252 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.080 the shepherding movement and things like that is where the 253 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.399 church is really active in telling you who you can marry, 254 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.320 and what house you can buy and when to buy, 255 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:51.919 and what to do with your money and these types 256 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.240 of things. That's not a healthy church. Now, I'm only 257 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.799 getting the information you're giving to me. But I would 258 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.919 say that from just a little bit that you've told me, 259 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.879 it's not a church that I would recommend or that 260 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:09.960 I would you know, endorse in any way, shape or form. 261 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:17.360 So those practices start getting into some heretical teachings in 262 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:21.279 the church. So that is just my thought to you. 263 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.559 And as far as the academic side of the question, no, 264 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.799 all of the prophecies haven't been fulfilled because the Book 265 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:34.120 of Revelation talks about end times and so you're still here. 266 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.000 I'm not sure how else other that you could prove 267 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.360 it than just by going, well, you're still here and 268 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.879 this show notwithstanding wink wink, nudge nudge, the second Coming 269 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.639 has not occurred. So that would put that in a 270 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:58.440 very difficult position to prove on her end. Jeff, Welcome 271 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:01.519 to the Jesus Christ Show. Well, Jesus, Hi, Jeff, what's 272 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:01.919 going on? 273 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:09.720 Well, my question is basically I was without a job, 274 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.639 feeling a desperation, and I have a child, so it 275 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.879 wasn't just for myself, it's it's there's nothing like the 276 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.279 desperation of a parent with a kid and in need. 277 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.399 So I didn't have any work and basically it was 278 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.600 out of money. It was starting to lose everything, and 279 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:31.600 I got a job. Now, the difference in my joy 280 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.360 and feeling from the desperation to the security of the 281 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:41.720 job was is, you know, unexplainable. But my question is 282 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:47.799 basically surrounded around should I be thinking God in that 283 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.360 time of desperation, thanking him for that, just as well 284 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.240 as when I got the job, thanking him and because. 285 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:57.039 It really. 286 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:03.480 Toils with my mind as far as you know what 287 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:08.759 is about this joy thing and the circumstance. You know, 288 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:10.839 I'm just a human being. I'm not a saint, so 289 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.680 I don't feel I don't feel joyful when I'm about 290 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.519 to lose my place, you know, my place to live 291 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:20.960 and I have a kid to house. 292 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.319 Of course not I mean if you're going to naturally 293 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.640 feel the pain in the situation and get lost in that. 294 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:32.680 But in the perspective of God, God wants you to 295 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.119 see the fact that God never leaves you, and that 296 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.000 out of all the things, if you had to choose 297 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.759 to lose, hopefully God would be the last thing you'd 298 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.319 want to lose. Therefore, there's always joy in the presence 299 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.680 of God, so says Scripture. And it's the fullness of joy. 300 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.119 The fullness of joy is not just the you know 301 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.079 in rapture, in the in the yelling and jumping. If 302 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.799 you look at the Old Testament, often in the Old 303 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.319 Testament you see that there's an experiential last back to 304 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.359 joy that they're when during a festival and they're making 305 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.039 noise and they're singing, and they're out in the streets, 306 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.279 and that's a different type of expression. There's going to 307 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:14.920 be another part of joy in this fullness of joy 308 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:19.480 that is odd to humans because it's you're used to thinking, well, 309 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.960 joy and happiness have to be some sort of elation 310 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.039 based on this thing that's happening to me. But it's 311 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.400 not about that either. You are in a state of 312 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.599 joy because you know there is a God who loves 313 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.960 you and that has that God has a. 314 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.279 Plan for you, and should I thank Him for the 315 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.680 like that, uh, you know, like not having just as 316 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:39.440 well as having. 317 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.880 Of course, you should always pray for those things that 318 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.000 God gives you and the things that God takes away 319 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.039 because for whatever reason they aren't the best thing for you. 320 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:51.680 And there are things that just land in the middle 321 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.359 where they're just you know, poor decisions, or that that 322 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.880 season has ended and it's time to move on to 323 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.440 something else or whatever. 324 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.680 Bible So you're saying that the Bible does say that 325 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.799 we could be joyful in the midst of the like 326 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.839 the desperation of like losing my place and not having 327 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:11.839 any money or anything. 328 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:19.160 Absolutely, absolutely, it's because you're you're not. When your joy 329 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.720 is there only because of things, then you're that is 330 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.400 where you're seeking your You're you're sinking the entirety of 331 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:26.839 yourself into those things. 332 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:28.920 Well, I know we say things, but when you have, 333 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.200 when you have to feed your kid, it's like it 334 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:32.839 means much more than things. 335 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.680 Yet I I understand there's a process through all of that. However, 336 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:42.319 if you're trusting in God to see other opportunities or 337 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:44.000 to use your skills, and I don't mean in a 338 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:46.240 lazy sense, if you're sitting back and you're not doing 339 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:49.960 anything and you're not the very skills you have to 340 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:56.279 offer anybody for money, Jeff, they come from God. So 341 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.480 to have joy in the fact that you even have 342 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:02.079 those skills. There there's joy to be had in all situations, 343 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:05.720 being and small, and all trials, but the focus is off. 344 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.000 Of course, you want to feed your child, and there's 345 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.680 no joy in seeing a hungry child. But there's joy. 346 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.799 There's joy knowing that there are places that will feed you. 347 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.279 There's joy and knowing that there are places that are 348 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:21.880 designed to give you a leg up. There's a joy 349 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.079 in knowing that that that that love or that even 350 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:26.880 desire for charity comes from the direct heart of God. 351 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:30.759 Man doesn't sit there going get yeah, I want help 352 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.880 for the sake of help. Those are propulsions from God. 353 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.400 And to be in that state of understanding that that 354 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.680 you know, rejoicing in hope, as it says in Romans 355 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:47.720 twelve twelve, that you are rejoicing in not what's in 356 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.720 front of you, but what you know, what is what 357 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.079 is capable because God is there, and that very that 358 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.680 very capability wouldn't exist without God, that very possibility of hope. 359 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:02.680 And to consider all things joy, it says in James 360 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.440 one two. When you encounter various trials, why because those 361 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.680 trials are going to strengthen you. They're going to build 362 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.240 up your character and who you are. There as many things. 363 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.799 Everybody wants the simple way and believes the simple way 364 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:16.680 is the Godly way. And it's not if it comes 365 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.319 out of a box and you mix it with water 366 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.160 and then you have a blessed day and a blessed life. 367 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.000 That's not how it works. Trials by fire and the things, 368 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:28.960 the things that you learn the most in life. The 369 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.160 reason why you're calling me today is because of pain, 370 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:38.880 because of sadness, because of a trial that moved you intensely. 371 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.680 Yeah, And I couldn't believe the difference in fe in 372 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:49.240 my feeling of the no security and that security all saiden. 373 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:54.880 It was like, Wow, everything's okay, and it doesn't seem 374 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.480 like that's very deep, you know, deep, it seems like 375 00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:58.559 it's circumstantial. 376 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.119 Well, let's hope not that that that belongs in a 377 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.559 place where you are now tasting of a of a 378 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:12.519 more deep and fulfilling joy, a real joy, Because if 379 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.559 it's just about stuff coming in and out of your life, Jeff, 380 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:16.720 then what is that? 381 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:18.759 Well, isn't that God itself? 382 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:19.119 Though? 383 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:20.960 Is it that circumstance God? 384 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.000 No, it's a piece of the of the gift of 385 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:27.960 life and being able to experience these the things around 386 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.039 you and making decisions, good decisions, hopefully godly decisions that 387 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.240 inlign themselves with the will of God so that life 388 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:39.000 has productivity and meaning while you are here for the 389 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:43.319 limited time that you're here, and those all point to God, sure, 390 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:49.799 but they're there. The fullness of joy comes from understanding that. 391 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.400 It's that there's no one thing that's going to bring 392 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.000 you all of that. The fullness is understanding that that 393 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:00.160 comes from God and God alone. You know, even in 394 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.880 times of pain, I've seen people that are very sick 395 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:06.079 and they've been married for a long time and one 396 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.759 of them is sick, and regardless of how much pain 397 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:14.960 they're in, their love never ceases for their mate. They 398 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.920 still have that intense love even though they're in intense pain, 399 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:22.640 because the pain shouldn't dictate whether the love's there or not. 400 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:28.079 And likewise, any pain in life shouldn't dictate the joy 401 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:30.839