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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio. While this is Eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Iron the Ball Hero on Fox Sports fourteen fifty Young

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Riverta and with me today is a former head

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<v Speaker 3>football coach at Michael Mountain. Pat Nugent now on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>We have you defensive line coach, Joe Salava and you

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<v Speaker 3>of a coach.

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing, man, bless blessed, Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, good. I don't know what you run the forty

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<v Speaker 3>e now, but you came and hit the ground running.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been fantastic. How has it been right away doing

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<v Speaker 3>what you do?

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<v Speaker 4>It's, you know, just really an honor for me. It's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a little bit more surreal because of

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<v Speaker 4>what this place means and the people that were here

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<v Speaker 4>when I was here in my time here. But to

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<v Speaker 4>actually come full circle now and get a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>contribute to Kuz Brandan and the staff ass tremendous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering this might be a personal question, but you've

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<v Speaker 3>always had a fascination with two sort of stuff. When

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<v Speaker 3>you got the call to possibly come, or maybe when

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<v Speaker 3>you landed here, did you shed a tear.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I had a pause. There was a moment

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<v Speaker 4>there kind of it hit me. Uh and obviously Coach

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<v Speaker 4>told you had a big part of that, and so

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<v Speaker 4>there was there was that moment there, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>just just so honored and and and grateful to Brennan

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously unser Raide for just the uh, the opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>for me and my family to be back in the fold.

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<v Speaker 5>Coach, how you doing this, Pat Neugeen, I was the

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<v Speaker 5>head coach of Micah Mountain High School. We just wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to stay titled, but I'm an old manager for coach

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<v Speaker 5>Tomy in the eighties and obviously, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>worked with Brandon Sanders a long time. But obviously we're

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<v Speaker 5>we're really excited to have you back in Tucson. And uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, obviously culture change a little bit coming from

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<v Speaker 5>Miami and the Seattle area, I mean the Oregon area.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, have you seen Coach Brennan. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things going differently since you've gotten here,

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<v Speaker 5>and the excitement that he's bringing.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, just you know, just on our side of the

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<v Speaker 4>ball staffs Coach a Keina obviously h a walking human

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<v Speaker 4>encyclopedia and the teaching and the mentoring uh Daddy and

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<v Speaker 4>his own writer as well former head coach d c

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<v Speaker 4>uh and his body of work, you know, just starting there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then having coach RC and Chip, you know Chip

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<v Speaker 4>coming from Oklahoma background and r C being an s

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<v Speaker 4>C and Uh, so you're talking about a a well

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<v Speaker 4>qualified staff, but man extra special because of the human

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<v Speaker 4>beings they are. And then obviously with the offense to

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<v Speaker 4>the day and and having him here, and we were

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<v Speaker 4>talking just earlier today about Bike Leech uh and what

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<v Speaker 4>he's in to me and my family, but also for

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<v Speaker 4>him as a mentor and as a former coach. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so fired up, so fared up, just knowing where

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<v Speaker 4>we're at now and and moving forward the direction and

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<v Speaker 4>seeing our guys attacked this off season training in the

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<v Speaker 4>early stage. Truly looking forward to getting on the grass

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<v Speaker 4>with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So coach, I've been here since eighty seven, Covered told

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<v Speaker 3>me from eighty eight to eighty nine before I went

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<v Speaker 3>to cover to Loot and I have a coach with Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>with Pat here in front of me and you. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things I realized these years that coaching matters.

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<v Speaker 3>Coaching matters, and I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>excited to have you here because you bring something. You

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<v Speaker 3>bring something like a personality, a love for the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's very apparent what's your secret sauce because people

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<v Speaker 3>do gravitate or players do gravitate to you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was one of the things I picked up

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<v Speaker 4>on Coach told me, just being being ourselves and then

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<v Speaker 4>having the joy and the passion for what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that starts there. It is one thing

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<v Speaker 4>to work and train, but if you do it with

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<v Speaker 4>a with that kind of perspective and outlook, then it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't become of work. It becomes your your vocation. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what's been for me. It's been about loyalty, uh

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<v Speaker 4>to the people that I work with alongside with, and

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<v Speaker 4>in our our commitment to our student athletes because uh

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<v Speaker 4>we were once in those seats and to have that opera,

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<v Speaker 4>that perspective. I've just been just been really fortunate and

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<v Speaker 4>blessed to be a part of a lot of these families,

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<v Speaker 4>lives and whatnot, and to see them not just graduate,

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<v Speaker 4>but to prove, uh proceed onto the National Football League

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<v Speaker 4>stage and doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the things. I'm excited for our guys because

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<v Speaker 4>we have you know, coaching Tina has put up many

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<v Speaker 4>gym sources of work. If I'm a dB in this

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<v Speaker 4>country and I'm looking to be developed so that i

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<v Speaker 4>can have a shot of staying in the league, not

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<v Speaker 4>to get to the league, I would put there ain't

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<v Speaker 4>no doubt I'm coming to do so. On a visit

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<v Speaker 4>coach Dwayne and Keith. That is just outrageous that some

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<v Speaker 4>of these families. But again, we're not going to stay

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<v Speaker 4>in between families and there and their decisions and finances.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they're truly about development mentorship, well you can't

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<v Speaker 4>look any further than our staff the A because Sale

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<v Speaker 4>is the best as they come in that regard to

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm just really honored and humbled to be

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<v Speaker 4>among these guys here and our staff here and what

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<v Speaker 4>coach Brannan is is working to change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny you talk about all that we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>how the game has changed, nil transfer portal, But at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, and I talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>with that, because he's had a lot of success at

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<v Speaker 3>the high school level, I just want to stay titled.

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<v Speaker 3>The game of football hasn't you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>have some passion, you got to have the will wherewithal,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to love to play for your coach, things

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<v Speaker 3>like that, And.

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<v Speaker 4>It truly starts there. What's happening now, Uh, there's so

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<v Speaker 4>many other components and so many people, uh that are

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<v Speaker 4>infiltrating the families and there and their decision that has

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with a young man, but uh, the

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<v Speaker 4>posture that they have the best interest of the young

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<v Speaker 4>kid and that's why they're having there's more than over

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<v Speaker 4>six thousand student nastic football players in the portal because

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<v Speaker 4>of being ill advised or we're going to a program

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<v Speaker 4>for all the wrong reasons. And so you know, you'll

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<v Speaker 4>continue to have those those type of situation you're in,

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<v Speaker 4>you're out. But you know again, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 4>we we play to the tune of our of our

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<v Speaker 4>university and what we're we're good at and what we're

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<v Speaker 4>great at. And we can only speak on what the

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<v Speaker 4>University Arizona can provide and which is a lot, a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a city, it's a truly a college town that

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<v Speaker 4>has grown but still have that uh warm uh uh

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<v Speaker 4>slow pace uh ways, and I think those are the

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<v Speaker 4>things that I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a good engineering program, we got medical, we

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<v Speaker 4>got law, law school, I mean all those things, and

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<v Speaker 4>we highlight those things with the families, with with with

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<v Speaker 4>with integrity and respect because you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, they can lead Tucson Arizona knowing that, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>we've been transparent, we've been upfront, and uh we don't

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<v Speaker 4>hide nothing of why Arizona is a great fit for

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<v Speaker 4>the further your further sons.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Coach I obviously learned a lot from coach

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<v Speaker 5>Tony and really got into the profession. But I was

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<v Speaker 5>telling Steve a little earlier one of the highlights of

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<v Speaker 5>my career what I learned from coach Tomy was relationships.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think one of the things I see and

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<v Speaker 5>asking you is with the transfers and things, do you

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<v Speaker 5>feel like you're lacking those those relationships with the kids

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<v Speaker 5>and they move on so fast that you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>back in the good old days with desert's warm you

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<v Speaker 5>got to build such a culture there. That culture has

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<v Speaker 5>kind of changed a little bit. In football.

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<v Speaker 4>I think every every every college, every university, every institution

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<v Speaker 4>is just is dealing with that right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why it's important from the outset in the

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<v Speaker 4>recruiting process of taking the deep dive into the things

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<v Speaker 4>that are meaningful to the families of what matters most.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if it comes down to where it's us

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<v Speaker 4>or them, if they go the other way, well that

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<v Speaker 4>things because of the portal. Seven months later, those families,

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<v Speaker 4>those very families are calling back because they realize that okay,

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<v Speaker 4>through the relationship, through the integrity of it all, these

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<v Speaker 4>are the family, these are this is the university that

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<v Speaker 4>their staff has been upfront and so it's happened before

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<v Speaker 4>now where those those relationships came back around and and

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<v Speaker 4>and and so for us, we're not going to harp

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<v Speaker 4>on on spilt milk and we're not We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get the players that are meant to be here, uh

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<v Speaker 4>for the University of Arizona. But we also uh pride

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves uh in being upfront, being transparent, but also being realistic,

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<v Speaker 4>uh with with the families because I think those are

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<v Speaker 4>the things have a funny way of circling back. But

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<v Speaker 4>it is relationship.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, are we going to be out bit by others? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>yes we are. It's just the way of the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the fact of life. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, still there's a lot more that the University

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona in here in Tucsa that we offer for for

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<v Speaker 4>for the majority of these families.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, Coach Tomy always used to say, and go

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<v Speaker 5>pick up rocks. You gotta go find look for rocks

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<v Speaker 5>and look for guys that can play and have that

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<v Speaker 5>desire to play and any back in the days he

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<v Speaker 5>found those guys that you know, like yourself and Teddy

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<v Speaker 5>Bruski that that played a lot better than they were recorded.

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<v Speaker 3>The wall drops and those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to develop, You got to develop, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>easy to develop a further along uh athlete. Uh that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not every every institution have the same uh

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<v Speaker 4>setting or the same makeup, and so for us, uh

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<v Speaker 4>it circles back to how can we uh develop and

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<v Speaker 4>teach and having that plan laid out from day one

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<v Speaker 4>to year one to year two, and those things, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes they get distorted with all the other components that

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<v Speaker 4>have nothing to do with the young men's development. But

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<v Speaker 4>people will try to distract them. But you know by

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<v Speaker 4>drawing those those those other uh, those those things that

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<v Speaker 4>that that takes the family attention away from. But those

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<v Speaker 4>things exactly what you guys are alluding to are are

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<v Speaker 4>still uh vidently important. And you know, I've been fortunate

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<v Speaker 4>again to develop some of the guys I call it

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<v Speaker 4>my no star guys uh from the Islands. Uh and

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<v Speaker 4>uh they got to graduate and they got to play

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL, you know, And I think those are

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<v Speaker 4>the things If the kids young man is not looking

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<v Speaker 4>to go play uh for the National Football League, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not They're not supposed to be here at the University Arizona.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you need guys that are truly excited and

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to be mentored and coached and developed for

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<v Speaker 4>that opportunity uh to graduate and uh and and and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure Joe knows one of the things we do,

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<v Speaker 4>mind just because of who that man was, uh and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't you know, I couldn't tell you just how blessed,

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<v Speaker 4>oh blessed it is to have this opportunity to be here,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know he's here in spirit, and we're just

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<v Speaker 3>Well, coach, I appreciate your time. Good luck, I We'll

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<v Speaker 3>see you soon in springball.

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<v Speaker 7>Good luck, coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, appreciate your time. Appreciate it a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to my in the ball here on

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<v Speaker 3>Ve Harvey, how are you?

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<v Speaker 6>It's been good? Well, how are you all?

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing fine. Thank you. You're a busy, busy man.

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<v Speaker 3>with the traffic. Other than that, LA is cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right.

427
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.599
<v Speaker 3>How tell me before we get into basketball, tell me

428
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.559
<v Speaker 3>how how were the Grammys? What's your title now? Because

429
00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:24.960
<v Speaker 3>you get better and better titles all the time.

430
00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.759
<v Speaker 6>My title has been CEO of the Recording Academy.

431
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.720
<v Speaker 15>And the Grammys and Music Cares. And it's been five

432
00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:35.000
<v Speaker 15>years now, if you can believe that.

433
00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.640
<v Speaker 6>I was the chair of the board for one year.

434
00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:40.960
<v Speaker 6>Nice about five years ago.

435
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.559
<v Speaker 3>So nice, yeah, fantastic. I mean you've been very you know,

436
00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I said, I told Pat. I told Pat Harvey's going

437
00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.240
<v Speaker 3>to be on the show. He said, oh great, they

438
00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:51.279
<v Speaker 3>had the song. But you know, well about the Cats

439
00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.880
<v Speaker 3>way back in the day. Of course, everyone still plays

440
00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:55.759
<v Speaker 3>that Everyone still plays that song.

441
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:56.359
<v Speaker 6>That's right.

442
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<v Speaker 5>We got to ask you that, Harvey, when you when

443
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<v Speaker 5>you were part of that song, did you ever know

444
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:00.920
<v Speaker 5>that would lead to the.

445
00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.119
<v Speaker 7>Career that you're in right now and being a legend

446
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.599
<v Speaker 7>that you are. Well, thank you for the legend status.

447
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.519
<v Speaker 15>But I did know that I was going to be

448
00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.680
<v Speaker 15>involved in music before I came to the U of A.

449
00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.599
<v Speaker 15>I was writing songs and producing music and come from

450
00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.480
<v Speaker 15>a musical family, so it was always in my blood

451
00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.759
<v Speaker 15>and part of what I thought my life would include.

452
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.359
<v Speaker 15>But I did want to play basketball, so I came

453
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.200
<v Speaker 15>to U of A with big dreams of playing the

454
00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:27.200
<v Speaker 15>NBA and didn't work out in that way. But I

455
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.200
<v Speaker 15>always knew that music would be a part of what

456
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:30.079
<v Speaker 15>I did for sure.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no question, And you're doing it very well. When

458
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:35.039
<v Speaker 3>I also got you and you said yes to come

459
00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:39.400
<v Speaker 3>on those those teammates of yours back in the day. Look,

460
00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Steve is, Steve is, of course Steve with the Golden

461
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.519
<v Speaker 3>State Warriors, Olympic Guys champions, Sean doing what he does

462
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Tobert Matt Meilboch an attorney, Tobert doing his stuff in

463
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Northern California. Pretty overachieving dudes, not just on court but

464
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<v Speaker 3>on life.

465
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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, we had a really group of people and you

466
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.240
<v Speaker 15>probably could have gone on five or six eight more

467
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 15>guys that just went on to do really cool things

468
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.839
<v Speaker 15>and be good, good members of society and good teammates,

469
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:11.799
<v Speaker 15>good friends.

470
00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:12.359
<v Speaker 6>Good husbands.

471
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.640
<v Speaker 15>We had a unique bond that team, and I think

472
00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 15>we all rubbed off on each other. I don't believe

473
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.359
<v Speaker 15>or have the overinflated opinion of myself to think for

474
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 15>a minute that I arrived in Tucson the complete package

475
00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:27.039
<v Speaker 15>as a human.

476
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 6>You know, I was a good basketball player.

477
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.960
<v Speaker 15>We were all good basketball players, but we learned a

478
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.680
<v Speaker 15>lot from Coach Olsen. We learned a lot from each other.

479
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.160
<v Speaker 15>I mean, think about the environment that we were in,

480
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:37.119
<v Speaker 15>not even on the court, but just in a day

481
00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:39.799
<v Speaker 15>to day life with Coach O and Steve Kerr and

482
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 15>Kenny Lofton and all these different people that just brought

483
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:43.920
<v Speaker 15>out the best in each other.

484
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 6>And it's a weird dynamic.

485
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.680
<v Speaker 15>We all continue to stay in touch, and for me,

486
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 15>I can't speak for everyone else, but I try and

487
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.400
<v Speaker 15>move in a way that would make my teammates proud

488
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.759
<v Speaker 15>and make them say, Okay, Harvey's doing good stuff. So

489
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.200
<v Speaker 15>that's a different kind of nuanced type of pressure that

490
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<v Speaker 15>I think we all amongst our group.

491
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:01.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

492
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even mention Kenny, and I haven't mentioned Judd.

493
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, come on, ye oh, you guys.

494
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:06.920
<v Speaker 7>You know Harvey.

495
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.319
<v Speaker 5>You know we're all go back to those eighty eight team,

496
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I was a student there, worked the

497
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:14.440
<v Speaker 5>basketball games, and you guys started this tradition at UV.

498
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you guys were you know.

499
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 5>I know we won a national title in ninety seven,

500
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.519
<v Speaker 5>but I think everybody as a Tusonian will always remember

501
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.319
<v Speaker 5>that eighty eight team and how specially were when you

502
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.960
<v Speaker 5>guys when you came here and obviously Coach Olson, But

503
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 5>did you see the program going in the direction that

504
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 5>it is now and starting the tradition that you guys

505
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 5>started in eighty eight.

506
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 15>Absolutely, and we can try and downplay it, but I.

507
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.160
<v Speaker 6>Personally knew we were going to be a great team.

508
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.559
<v Speaker 15>I knew the caliber of players that Coach Olson was recruiting.

509
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:45.920
<v Speaker 15>I was, I believe, the third recruiting class, so before

510
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.680
<v Speaker 15>me were great, great athletes, great players. And I also

511
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 15>knew from meeting Coach Olson for ten minutes that he

512
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 15>was a special leader of players, of athletes, of young men,

513
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 15>and that is a combination. To me, that was a

514
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 15>great recipe for success, and it proved to be true.

515
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no question. In fact, in some of my books,

516
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 3>you've been very candid with your situation. You know, when

517
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>you get here and you're not alone, Well, I kind

518
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 3>of blew it there. But you came here, you were

519
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 3>a little upset or disheartened, and you wanted to leave,

520
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 3>and you said, everybody wants to leave because you know,

521
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a tough situation. But your guys are glad that

522
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:27.079
<v Speaker 3>you didn't because you got better and you became who

523
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 3>you became.

524
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

525
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:34.440
<v Speaker 15>I think about the environment around college basketball now, having

526
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.920
<v Speaker 15>had the rules in place, the ni all, the transfer portal,

527
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.720
<v Speaker 15>it would have been a very different situation. I can't

528
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:43.240
<v Speaker 15>imagine any of the players that you named on that

529
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 15>list probably would have hung around. Maybe besides Steve, he

530
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 15>wasn't going anywhere, But everyone else at some point or

531
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 15>another was frustrated or angry or disappointed.

532
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 6>So I'm glad that all of us stuck it out.

533
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 15>And I'm glad that you know, we had that kind

534
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.160
<v Speaker 15>of the idea that things would continue to evolve and

535
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.160
<v Speaker 15>get better over time, and they did regardless of if

536
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 15>it was playing time, but just as a person as

537
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 15>a human, we all benefited from being in Tucson as

538
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 15>a part of that program for the years that we

539
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:11.240
<v Speaker 15>were there.

540
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Harvey.

541
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<v Speaker 5>Before we get to this year's team, one question I

542
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 5>got to ask, yet, who started the Gumbies. Who was

543
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.759
<v Speaker 5>the first guy that got that Gumby's going back in

544
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 5>those days.

545
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 6>His name was Bruce Frasier.

546
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 15>And if you don't know who he is, he is

547
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 15>now Steph Curry's shooting guru. And you see him warming

548
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 15>up Steph every day. He looks a lot different now

549
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:31.160
<v Speaker 15>because he's got gray hair.

550
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:32.359
<v Speaker 3>We all do.

551
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 6>He was, He was the original Gumby.

552
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 15>I don't think he ever really started as a U

553
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 15>of a athlete, but he was always the consummate team member,

554
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:47.119
<v Speaker 15>always kind of led the scout team. And I think

555
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 15>when the Gumbies really became popular in eighty eight, he

556
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 15>had graduated and was in a GA I could have

557
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 15>my dates wrong, but I believe he was a grad assistant.

558
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 15>And so it was you know, me and Sean and

559
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 15>Judd and Muhlbach and Kevin Rooks. So it was a

560
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 15>combination of Q starting it.

561
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 6>That's what we call it.

562
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 15>Bruce was Q, and then all of us kind of

563
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 15>just taking the name and the identity and and running

564
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 15>with it.

565
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 7>Was that the media that gave you that name? Or

566
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 7>are you guys creating it?

567
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 15>No, we created and it came from Q, and Q

568
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 15>named the the scrubs or the B team or whatever

569
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 15>you want to call us, the gumbies because every week

570
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 15>in practice we would be a different team, you know,

571
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 15>when we were playing USC, we would be malleable and

572
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 15>transform into the US team if we were playing Duke

573
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 15>that week, and then we'd be Duke and so Q.

574
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 15>So I feel like a gumby. I'm just getting stretched

575
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 15>and pulled and pushed around. Yeah, and so that's how

576
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 15>the name started.

577
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah. I think one of the guys, maybe even

578
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 3>in Q, who wore a you know, put a little

579
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 3>gumby in his in his sneaker a time or two,

580
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, just to get.

581
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 6>In his socket fell out the line in garbage time.

582
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no question. There was another question told. I think

583
00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Matt told me this meal Buck back in the day.

584
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>There was a time maybe eighty eight, maybe eighty nine,

585
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>where you did. The reserves would play the starters, and

586
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>you guys wouldn't go and finish practice until the starters won,

587
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>or when day won, it would be over. There was

588
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>a time or two when you guys, the backups would

589
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 3>beat the starters and Lout would get so pissed that

590
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.880
<v Speaker 3>he'd let you. He'd make you guys play until they want.

591
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 15>Well, I mean, truth be told, and you can maybe

592
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 15>get some different opinions from different people, but.

593
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 6>The Gumbies as we were known and eighty eight.

594
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 15>Would often beat the starters like a drum and a

595
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 15>lot of it was because we were really good, but

596
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 15>some of it was. I'm sure they were fatigued. They

597
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 15>were playing a lot of heavy minutes. They weren't concentrating

598
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 15>sometimes because we were I think twenty three and two

599
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 15>that year, something like that, and I'm sure they dismissed

600
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 15>us a little bit, but we were going like our

601
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 15>live dependent on it, because that's how we contributed to

602
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 15>the success of the team was prepare our starters the

603
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 15>best we could, say, Matt Mulbach and I would take

604
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 15>on the identity of the oppost in backcourt and we

605
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 15>would try and beat Steve and Craig mcviillain to a

606
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 15>pulp every single practice, and we took it personally.

607
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, that's why that I heard. As always,

608
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 3>I always refer to the eightya team, and I'll move

609
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 3>this back to today, that the eighty eight team, especially

610
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 3>firstborn type of you know, the first team for Arizona

611
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 3>and Tucson. To love you guys and the thing that

612
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you guys had, at least in my mind, you guys

613
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>had that killer instinct and enjoyed beating the crap out

614
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of teams. Not too many teams, not too many teams

615
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>since have done that. Look this this year of a

616
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>good talented team, but they don't have that to get

617
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>it done and beat the crap out of teams.

618
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 15>There's a different kind of loyalty then than there is now.

619
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 15>We played for each other, we played for the school,

620
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 15>we played for the block a were we were proud

621
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 15>to beat in Tucson. We were representing our fan base,

622
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 15>our families. And now these young athletes are so talented

623
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 15>and probably so much better in vidual athletes than we

624
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 15>ever were, and they're so cool, and they're so well

625
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 15>taken care of and they're so conditioned. But we were

626
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 15>really really playing for the pride of our team and

627
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 15>for the pride of each other, and it drove us

628
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 15>to be I guess, probably a little crazy sometimes and

629
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 15>beat people worse and then we probably needed to.

630
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 6>But it was also the underdog scenario.

631
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 10>You know.

632
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 15>We were just starting as a program to become nationally

633
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 15>recognized and we wanted to prove a point. My freshman year,

634
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 15>we went to Georgetown and we played them, I think

635
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 15>it was in Philadelphia in a tournament game, and Georgetown

636
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 15>were grown men. They came out with beards and after

637
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.000
<v Speaker 15>the game they were kissing their kids and hugging their

638
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 15>wives and they beat us so badly. And I'll never

639
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 15>forget that feeling as a freshman saying, we got to

640
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<v Speaker 15>get a lot better if we're going to compete with

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<v Speaker 15>this team. And coach Olsen told us in the locker room,

642
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<v Speaker 15>he said, that's the team that you have to measure

643
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<v Speaker 15>yourself against. So a lot of that hunger, a lot

644
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<v Speaker 15>of that feeling of being not good enough and being

645
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<v Speaker 15>of a program that wasn't respected. It drove us to

646
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<v Speaker 15>try and step on the next of everyone we played.

647
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it takes a special group to do that,

648
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<v Speaker 3>and I still believe that. Obviously a special group that team,

649
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<v Speaker 3>the two thousand and one team got to the championship game.

650
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<v Speaker 3>Obviously ninety seven Kinna went on that run, and in

651
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<v Speaker 3>a couple of teams since then. What do you see

652
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<v Speaker 3>in this team?

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<v Speaker 15>I see incredible athleticism, incredible talent. I've gotten to see

654
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<v Speaker 15>one game in person, which was such a thrill, and

655
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<v Speaker 15>it really made me like, try and imagine what in

656
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<v Speaker 15>the world I was doing on the court playing with

657
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<v Speaker 15>players like that, because they seem so much faster and

658
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<v Speaker 15>more athletic than I remember. But it seems like they

659
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<v Speaker 15>have a good camaraderie. I really am enjoying the way

660
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<v Speaker 15>they're playing together. And I gotta say I love coach

661
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<v Speaker 15>Lloyd's style of interacting with the players. He has the

662
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<v Speaker 15>trust of the players, and he feels like he trusts them.

663
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<v Speaker 15>There's a real interaction between the two that sometimes you

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<v Speaker 15>don't see between a college coach DGE players, and I

665
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<v Speaker 15>think he's done a great job of figuring out how

666
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<v Speaker 15>to work with young adult athletes.

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<v Speaker 5>Was Coach Lloyd open the door for you guys, I mean,

668
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<v Speaker 5>you're part of the program.

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<v Speaker 7>Is he let you guys in and out? Once in

670
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<v Speaker 7>a while, it's just tradition that you guys have bringing

671
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<v Speaker 7>to the current team.

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<v Speaker 15>Now, well, even beyond that, he's actually actively reached out

673
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<v Speaker 15>to us and invited us to be involved in things

674
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<v Speaker 15>and invited us to events and to games, and so

675
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<v Speaker 15>it's not like, hey, if you want to come back,

676
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<v Speaker 15>you're welcome, it's please come back, Please be a part

677
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 15>of the program. And I think he sees the value

678
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<v Speaker 15>in some of the you know, ex athletes that came

679
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<v Speaker 15>through the program, and hopefully we can bring something to

680
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<v Speaker 15>the table that's helpful to him, because we all have

681
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<v Speaker 15>a lot of pride in that program.

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, yeah, there's still too a little Loot

683
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<v Speaker 3>in Tommy in a sense that the same kind of

684
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 3>style up and down and let you guys play. But

685
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<v Speaker 3>there's also the leeway I mean with you guys. You

686
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>guys weren't friends with Loot until you got out of

687
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 3>the program, right, you guys, You guys kind of listened.

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<v Speaker 15>To I don't Yeah, I don't think you can even

689
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<v Speaker 15>compare not to be disagreeable, Steve. But Lout and Tommy

690
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 15>are so far from the other ends of each other.

691
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<v Speaker 15>The one thing they have in common is they're incredibly

692
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<v Speaker 15>smart basketball minds and they are building winning programs. But

693
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<v Speaker 15>the way lut did it, and if you remember when

694
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<v Speaker 15>I was there, Steve, it was not getting up and

695
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<v Speaker 15>down and running and having to creative freedom to do.

696
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 15>It was very restrictive. We had plays on every set

697
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 15>and if you did too much penetrating, you get yelled at.

698
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<v Speaker 6>If you jump to too many times, yell that.

699
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<v Speaker 15>And it was hard to be a young player coming

700
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<v Speaker 15>out of high school eighteen nineteen years old who was

701
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<v Speaker 15>an All American or All cif for whatever you were,

702
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 15>and then come into this robotic system. But it worked,

703
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 15>and if you could buy into that system, you would

704
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 15>win and you would succeed as a player. Whereas Tommy,

705
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.480
<v Speaker 15>I think, is really trying to utilize the athletes that

706
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 15>he has and build his team and his system around

707
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.079
<v Speaker 15>them and really let them have the freedom to create

708
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 15>and explore and develop how the game goes.

709
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 6>And he's not going to ride them the entire game.

710
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<v Speaker 15>And that's why I really preciated about him, and and

711
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 15>and Sean Miller was not like that. Sean Miller was

712
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 15>yelling from the beginning of the game to the end

713
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<v Speaker 15>of the game, and I kind of imagine playing for

714
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<v Speaker 15>a coach that was that controlling and that restrictive. So

715
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<v Speaker 15>I think it's a great mix that Tommy is deployed

716
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<v Speaker 15>with these young athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny you say that because you you're not

718
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<v Speaker 3>that You're right, You're very right. I think that Luke

719
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<v Speaker 3>kind of changed when he went with the Towers, the

720
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<v Speaker 3>big men to the small with Kalid and Damon and

721
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Reggie and said, Okay, we're going to change it up,

722
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<v Speaker 3>give you more freedom with the style of play.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, well, that's how smart coach Olsoen was right. The

724
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<v Speaker 15>guy figured it out and he said, I'm going to

725
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<v Speaker 15>build a program around the talent that I have. And

726
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 15>that's really the beginning of point guard. You if you

727
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<v Speaker 15>think about it, because when I was there and with

728
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<v Speaker 15>stevea there was it was definitely not point guard. You

729
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<v Speaker 15>as a big man, you dribble to the wing, throw

730
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<v Speaker 15>a bounce past to the post.

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<v Speaker 6>In this watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, Harvey, we asked Matt the same question earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>But how do you think Luke would have done with this?

734
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<v Speaker 7>With this world we live in with nil and for

735
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 7>a portal right now?

736
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<v Speaker 6>I think he would thrive.

737
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<v Speaker 15>I think it's really credible, and I'll bet, I'll bet

738
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<v Speaker 15>if you ask Matt, he would probably say he would

739
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<v Speaker 15>have hated it, and he would have done well.

740
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<v Speaker 6>I believe. I know he said that, I know why

741
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<v Speaker 6>he said that.

742
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<v Speaker 15>But coach also was such a smart, intelligent coach, and

743
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 15>he was such a winner, and he cared so much

744
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 15>about building the program in winning and succeeding, he would

745
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 15>have adapted. He would have figured it out just the

746
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 15>way he adapted when all of a sudden we recruited

747
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 15>great point guards and he changed the style of play.

748
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 15>He would have adapted to the way he needed to

749
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 15>act and behave to win in this environment. I'm positive

750
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 15>he would have been a winner. I don't know if

751
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 15>he would have liked it, because, as Matt would have said,

752
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 15>he's a traditionalist. He likes the loyalty, he likes to

753
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 15>preach the things that are beyond basketball.

754
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 6>But given the culture that.

755
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 15>Is happening today, if he needed to adapt to it,

756
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 15>I truly believe he could have and would have.

757
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 7>How do you feel about the culture right now, mate?

758
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 15>I can't. That's tough, That's it. I mean nothing beyond that.

759
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 15>I don't like leaving a program when you just aren't happy.

760
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<v Speaker 6>About it one day.

761
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<v Speaker 15>I don't like the way that the financial component has

762
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 15>been worked out. I absolutely believe in players having more

763
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 15>freedom and rights and the ability to earn money because

764
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 15>for far too long, institutions were making a lot of money,

765
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 15>coaches were making a lot of money, and athletes were

766
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 15>being overworked and underappreciated. So I'm in favor of college

767
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 15>athletes having the ability to transfer and make a living.

768
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 15>But I think it's gone too far and depends on

769
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 15>the swung in the direction that I don't think is

770
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 15>healthy for college basketball, and more importantly, I'm not sure

771
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 15>it's healthy for the athletes that are playing college basketball.

772
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we won't know until we would find out.

773
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<v Speaker 3>Whenever we find out, you know, Harvey, as always, thanks

774
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>for talking. I love hearing from you.

775
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 15>My pleasure. Good to talk to you, and I miss

776
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 15>everyone in Tucson. I hope you all are well. Hope

777
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 15>to come back and see great great thanks man, appreciate you.

778
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<v Speaker 6>Take care.

779
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Har Mason, Harvey Mason from the good old days and

780
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<v Speaker 3>now with the Grammy, I mean he's got a big,

781
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<v Speaker 3>big title. Yeah, he's a big timer now. Did you

782
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 3>know he's been that way for a long time. You know,

783
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 3>he's five years with them, and he was doing a

784
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of things before that. Okay, let's take a break

785
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<v Speaker 3>and come back and talk more about sports. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful

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<v Speaker 3>for newly forty years. Now. Take a look back at

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<v Speaker 3>the Ludolsen era In my new book, Lessons from Loot.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a labor of love through the eyes of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight

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<v Speaker 3>to the coach and the man who led them, competed

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<v Speaker 3>against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Lut

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<v Speaker 3>is an insight to how he built the program into

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<v Speaker 3>a national powerhouse. Want one, Email me at Steve dot

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<v Speaker 3>Rivera ninety five at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 17>means more time for what matters, and less stress means

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<v Speaker 17>more confidence in your financial future. Pyramids Less us More

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<v Speaker 17>philosophy is coming to your neighborhood with a new branch

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<v Speaker 17>opening at the Tucson Spectrum Pyramid Federal Credit Union, where

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<v Speaker 17>less is More federally insured by NCUA, an equal Opportunity lender.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen,

855
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>fidding I want to take part in the show. Call

856
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>up Steve now went five to two oh four, one

857
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 1>six seventy.

858
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Four for night.

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00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to why on the Ball here on

860
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, your mister Pat

861
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Ducents formerly Mike does not.

862
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 5>Sound formerly sounds a little weird right now you know,

863
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm still on campus, a little different being around the

864
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.239
<v Speaker 5>boys a little bit, but uh, you know, we'll we'll

865
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 5>start enjoying it sooner or later.

866
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Niemer will do great. Yeah, who's coming out.

867
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 6>With J J. Boss?

868
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 7>Right? Nimer's the present principal and he's.

869
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Done really well. He's a new football Yeah. Yeah, you guys,

870
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 3>come on, I feel sorry for you guys. Guys gonna

871
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 3>keep winning. Yeah, if you guys want to call, please

872
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 3>do five to two oh four one, six, seventy four forty.

873
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 3>We can take some calls. Uh, let us know how

874
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>we did today. Good interviews, I thought.

875
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 7>Oh, great legends right now? Yes, and you know I

876
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 7>mean good questions to the nation.

877
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 5>As big as can be right there. You know, you

878
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 5>get a guy and then coach Salavea. You know, but

879
00:41:59.440 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 5>you'm trying.

880
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 3>You have some good questions too. The media has done

881
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>well for you, did you when you when you have

882
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>to deal with the people like us, did you?

883
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 6>God?

884
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 5>No, you always wanted to promote your program, and I

885
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 5>always thought it was great for the kids. You know,

886
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 5>things have changed so much in high school back in

887
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 5>your days, back in the Tucson Citizen when we recovered

888
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 5>high school sports a little bit.

889
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 7>It was neat, but you.

890
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Know, you don't get as much, you know, the right

891
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, the Morales brothers do such a great job

892
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 5>and pretty much the only job out there for kids,

893
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 5>and that was great.

894
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, you didn't restrict them, did you, did you say?

895
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, we restricted some kids that we didn't allow

896
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 5>to talk, you know, but just they weren't going to

897
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 5>do well.

898
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 7>We're going to have a tough time with the media.

899
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 7>But mostly our top kids were okay.

900
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 3>Not because they you were afraid of what they're going

901
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 3>to say.

902
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 5>No because they probably weren't going to be real good

903
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 5>in front of people and talking.

904
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 3>So well, we appreciate that.

905
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so they were going to have a hard time,

906
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 5>but you know it's different.

907
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:52.920
<v Speaker 7>You know, obviously we laugh a little bit when we

908
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 7>won the state title.

909
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Wow, and the media was there and you know, there

910
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 5>was fifteen cameras around me and we kind of laughed

911
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, and you know, that was a different experience.

912
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no question, no question. That's good for you.

913
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh and now you're going to be just pat Yeah,

914
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 3>that's it. Although I'm sure everyone's gonna call you coach, coach.

915
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna be called out that.

916
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 5>You know, I got five grand kids now, so I

917
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 5>gotta do some George a little bit around there and

918
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 5>watch the kids.

919
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, no, good, Welcome to the real world. It's

920
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 3>fun out here.

921
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

922
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 7>I'll let you know another year or two, we'll see

923
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 7>how that goes.

924
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 3>You'll go to the mall now and you know you

925
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>remember read No, I don't know you.

926
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 7>Love buddy.

927
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm nobody on campus anymore, walk around. Nobody knows who

928
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 5>I am anymore.

929
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, sure, No, that's good for you guys. Again,

930
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 3>if you like to call, we got about ten minutes

931
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 3>five to four, one six seventy four forty uh talk

932
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 3>about the basketball team and talk about football team whatever

933
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 3>you guys want to talk about. The women won last night, right,

934
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 3>that was part of your breaking news. Probably would you

935
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>have anything with that? No, I was just going to

936
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 3>say just that they want. Yeah, you didn't cover anything,

937
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 3>did you You didn't.

938
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

939
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna get home for the big hockey game tonight. Yeah,

940
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.599
<v Speaker 5>Big US Canadian hockey. Yeah you you follow that? Yeah, okay,

941
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 5>tell me Big four, Big two?

942
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>What is it? Canada?

943
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 6>Uh us firsus Cannabis tonight in the finals.

944
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>How many how many fights? What's the over under in

945
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 3>the fights today?

946
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're gonna fight. I think they got

947
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 5>in the other night and I think they got it in.

948
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be like a game seven.

949
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 7>You know.

950
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 5>They don't want to get thrown out if they want

951
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 5>to be a part of it, and it's gonna be intense.

952
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 7>I think it's gonna be.

953
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 5>They've really promoted this and I think it's taken off

954
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 5>for them, and I don't think they expected such a

955
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 5>big thing.

956
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 7>It's gone. It's going big.

957
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 3>I think we've got a call. Hello, you're on the

958
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>air and nine on the ball. Who's this? Who's this?

959
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 6>Hell?

960
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 3>You on the air?

961
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 6>This is done?

962
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Done? How are you done?

963
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm good?

964
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 6>How are you doing?

965
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Coach?

966
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 6>Good?

967
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 7>Thanks? How you doing?

968
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Hey?

969
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 6>I'm all right.

970
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 18>Hey, I missed this last dollar.

971
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 4>We're doing some.

972
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 18>Work stuff, so I'm gonna have to go back and

973
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 18>listen back. But that that interview with Matt Austik was

974
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 18>pretty good. One thing I wanted to cover with you, Steve,

975
00:44:56.840 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 18>was you know, for years we always wanted to in

976
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 18>fact twelve to be to level up to Arizona, Yeah,

977
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 18>and be better because we were seventeen and one, sixteen and.

978
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Two, and now we're in that.

979
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 18>And it's hard getting used to it.

980
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, okay, perfect, you perfectly said. Let me ask

981
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 3>you this though, but don't you or I don't want

982
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 3>to influence your your How do you feel now going

983
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 3>into the tournament? Don't you feel a little bit better?

984
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 18>I think we're going to be better suited for the tournament,

985
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 18>and then I think that might and in the long run,

986
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 18>when maybe we're not as good of a team as

987
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 18>we think we are, maybe we'll be that little bit better,

988
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 18>a little bit tougher that we're able to get through,

989
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 18>you know, to get through a round or two, and

990
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 18>maybe we don't, you know, we don't get too because

991
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 18>before you know, when we were you know you're a

992
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 18>top one or two seed, you know you're expected to

993
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 18>get to the to the regional final at least. And

994
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 18>I think that now we may we may be better

995
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 18>suited to win some games that maybe we didn't think

996
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 18>we could.

997
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Right. So, so I'm gonna ask this a question because

998
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 3>I know my answer will maybe lost. Pat. So, So,

999
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to this point, twenty some games into it, what's been

1000
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 3>the most impressive thing to you or most eye opening

1001
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 3>with basketball.

1002
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 18>I think the resilience and and the ability that they've

1003
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 18>been able to stick together and win some games that maybe,

1004
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 18>you know, because there's always that little lull and then

1005
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 18>they lose the lead or or or they either lose

1006
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 18>the lead or they fall behind. But they don't panic.

1007
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 18>They're just they just stay in it, and they stay

1008
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 18>together and and and they just you know, they've they've

1009
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 18>been able to win more often than not. You know,

1010
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 18>after those first nine games or so.

1011
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 5>I think everybody in Tucson has to, you know, appreciate

1012
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 5>the effort these kids have shown. You know, they're they're

1013
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 5>shootings off. They're not you know, shooting every ball right.

1014
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 5>They go out and play hard. You know, they go

1015
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.320
<v Speaker 5>play hard. They play defense, which is a great thing

1016
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 5>to watch. And you know, they've been in every game.

1017
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think we go to but two months

1018
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 5>ago when they were four and five, I think too

1019
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Sonians were ready to bail on them. But I think

1020
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 5>everybody's back on board and excited about them. And you know,

1021
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 5>love catches on fire. We're gonna win any game.

1022
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the whole thing. That'll be My quick thing

1023
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>is the toughness, the physicalness, that they've been able to

1024
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 3>show because don you followed a long time, you Pat,

1025
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 3>and me too. They haven't been tough like this, they

1026
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 3>haven't been physically enough like this, and this is something

1027
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 3>that is new and it's kind of fun to watch.

1028
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 18>No, well, we've you know, for years, we've gone into

1029
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 18>tournaments against mid majors and you look at these guys

1030
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 18>and you're going, that team looks like grown men.

1031
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Princeton and our team and our team looks like

1032
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of college kids.

1033
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 18>And now we're getting into that. You know, I think

1034
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 18>now with the tougher leagues we're getting into, we're gonna

1035
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 18>be better prepared to play those tough games.

1036
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1037
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just concerned if I am concerned, if I

1038
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 3>can be concerned because i'm you know, a journalist, whatever,

1039
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that they won't get fatigued by that time it comes

1040
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 3>because they're only playing with seven eight guys.

1041
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:19.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1042
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well we'll see how.

1043
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 3>It turns out. Yeah, okay, thanks Don, Yes, sir, a

1044
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 3>good one. Yeah, thanks. We got about three more minutes,

1045
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe a time for one quick question or a quick call.

1046
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 3>But see how fast it goes.

1047
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 5>It goes fast. In two hours, I was excited to

1048
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 5>get here and it's already over. I don't know what

1049
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 5>to do with myself.

1050
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 3>This is like a ride on Disney. That's not why

1051
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I shaved my legs for that. What's not for that?

1052
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 3>But it was good. It was good because we have

1053
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 3>good guests. Tomorrow, we're gonna have Jay will be in

1054
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>studio with us, so maybe we'll get into an argument

1055
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>or two. Get ready for the game on Saturday. B YU,

1056
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 3>so maybe we'll have a writer from b YU. B

1057
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 3>YU did pretty well against Kansas.

1058
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 5>They did, you know, they shoot, they shoot the rock

1059
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 5>real well, and you got to defend those guys and

1060
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna you know, we played well that night and

1061
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 5>b YU and you know, obviously we always got an

1062
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 5>advantage at McHale. And yeah, it'll be exciting to see

1063
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 5>our kids come out and play.

1064
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:14.280
<v Speaker 3>And can you can you being the coach and you're

1065
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 3>seeing the other team, can you tell from another team

1066
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>or a fund of language whatever, that they're just not

1067
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 3>into it?

1068
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

1069
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 5>Without question, I think you see that early in the game.

1070
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 5>You know, you try to get advantage of them early

1071
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 5>and knock them in the.

1072
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 7>Mouth a little bit.

1073
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 3>You tell that to the kids.

1074
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I think every every coach is trying to

1075
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 5>get on right away and try to take the soul

1076
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 5>out of that other team and go out and play

1077
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 5>and knock them out early.

1078
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 7>You know, that was always our goal as a high.

1079
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 5>School coach, was you know, let's go and knock them

1080
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 5>in the mouth and try to get this game over early.

1081
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, set the tone, set the tone. They're not here

1082
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 3>to play, let's take advantage and.

1083
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's you know, it's great when the v A.

1084
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, the crowd gets into it. McHale's rocking and

1085
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 5>it's hard to come into McHale. We all know that

1086
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 5>over the years. But you know they've got to do

1087
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 5>that and and just stay on top of them. I

1088
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 5>do not too often.

1089
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So one or two a year, granted Water the

1090
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 7>Texas Tech game. That was a great eight game, one

1091
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 7>of the great games.

1092
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that was the game. And I misspoke yesterday

1093
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 3>about about Henry because that game he looked gast. He

1094
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 3>looked ghast, and he played an unbelievable and I'll never

1095
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 3>forget that because he was about to fall apart and

1096
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 3>he didn't. Yeah, to your point of the crowd, Uh,

1097
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 3>there are times when they're criticized because they're not crazy.

1098
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, everyone's old. They don't care. There are times

1099
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 3>when it's very, very good.

1100
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 7>I was an eight o'clock game that night, you know,

1101
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 7>eight thirty.

1102
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, it's great, great crowd, and then

1103
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.480
<v Speaker 5>the place was loud and loust and excited.

1104
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Houston game was like that, Iowa State game was like that.

1105
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Of course, it takes I think every place in the country.

1106
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 3>If you've got a good game and good opponent, they're

1107
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.679
<v Speaker 3>going to be there. Some games not so much. We'll

1108
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 3>see what happened Saturday, because it's another league game.

1109
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 7>We do, you know, and it's us. You have a fans.

1110
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 5>We live and die by the Caps, and hopefully they

1111
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.679
<v Speaker 5>keep winning and keep us involved and tournaments right around

1112
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 5>the corner and be a little different. We're going to

1113
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 5>miss the Vegas and anybody's into Vegas for that was

1114
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 5>a creak up a time, been there a couple of times.

1115
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:04.920
<v Speaker 7>And we're going to miss that. No one's going to

1116
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 7>Kansas City.

1117
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they might have a little small kind

1118
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 3>of contingent. Have you been going to the games?

1119
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 6>Entry, Yeah, I've gone to basically every home game.

1120
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, you got the kids under control.

1121
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.920
<v Speaker 3>They haven't used the F word very much this year.

1122
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I was actually gonna say I thought the Houston crowd

1123
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe because of the start time was earlier. I didn't

1124
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 3>think it was as it was it was. There was

1125
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 3>some empty sea. Yeah, it was a great game. It

1126
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.519
<v Speaker 3>was a great game. I think the Houston crowd eventually

1127
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 3>left disappointed because they had everyone. Oh we had the game. Well,

1128
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Houston does what they do to you. They they it's

1129
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the drip, drip, drip until you kind of can't take

1130
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 3>it anymore.

1131
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, tough physical team.

1132
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, two o'clock and you know at twelve

1133
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.559
<v Speaker 5>o'clock team. You know, it was early and beautiful Tucson.

1134
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:45.400
<v Speaker 5>Nobody wanted to leave.

1135
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 3>The outdoors sold out. But to your point, there was

1136
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot of empty spots. Yeah, strangely, it was so

1137
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 3>a good crowd, but I think there were some other

1138
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 3>games so the crowd was better. Okay, you need to go.

1139
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 3>We're good to go. Yep, Thanks Henry, Thanks Pat Steve

1140
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Greig for having you going to be Maybe you come

1141
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 3>back now that no, you're not.

1142
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 5>Plenty of times in my hands, so twenty afternoon may

1143
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:06.679
<v Speaker 5>affect my afternoon nap a little bit.

1144
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't hope your wife doesn't affect, you know, our friendship

1145
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.599
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Steve again, Yeah yeah, okay, thanks again
