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Speaker 3: Steve Riverta and with me today is a former head
Speaker 3: football coach at Michael Mountain. Pat Nugent now on the phone.
Speaker 3: We have you defensive line coach, Joe Salava and you
Speaker 3: of a coach.
Speaker 4: How you doing, man, bless blessed, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Yes, good. I don't know what you run the forty
Speaker 3: e now, but you came and hit the ground running.
Speaker 3: You've been fantastic. How has it been right away doing
Speaker 3: what you do?
Speaker 4: It's, you know, just really an honor for me. It's
Speaker 4: you know, it's a little bit more surreal because of
Speaker 4: what this place means and the people that were here
Speaker 4: when I was here in my time here. But to
Speaker 4: actually come full circle now and get a chance to
Speaker 4: contribute to Kuz Brandan and the staff ass tremendous.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering this might be a personal question, but you've
Speaker 3: always had a fascination with two sort of stuff. When
Speaker 3: you got the call to possibly come, or maybe when
Speaker 3: you landed here, did you shed a tear.
Speaker 4: You know, I had a pause. There was a moment
Speaker 4: there kind of it hit me. Uh and obviously Coach
Speaker 4: told you had a big part of that, and so
Speaker 4: there was there was that moment there, and so it's
Speaker 4: just just so honored and and and grateful to Brennan
Speaker 4: and obviously unser Raide for just the uh, the opportunity
Speaker 4: for me and my family to be back in the fold.
Speaker 5: Coach, how you doing this, Pat Neugeen, I was the
Speaker 5: head coach of Micah Mountain High School. We just wanted
Speaker 5: to stay titled, but I'm an old manager for coach
Speaker 5: Tomy in the eighties and obviously, uh, you know, I
Speaker 5: worked with Brandon Sanders a long time. But obviously we're
Speaker 5: we're really excited to have you back in Tucson. And uh,
Speaker 5: you know, obviously culture change a little bit coming from
Speaker 5: Miami and the Seattle area, I mean the Oregon area.
Speaker 5: But uh, have you seen Coach Brennan. Have you seen
Speaker 5: a lot of things going differently since you've gotten here,
Speaker 5: and the excitement that he's bringing.
Speaker 4: Man, just you know, just on our side of the
Speaker 4: ball staffs Coach a Keina obviously h a walking human
Speaker 4: encyclopedia and the teaching and the mentoring uh Daddy and
Speaker 4: his own writer as well former head coach d c
Speaker 4: uh and his body of work, you know, just starting there,
Speaker 4: and then having coach RC and Chip, you know Chip
Speaker 4: coming from Oklahoma background and r C being an s
Speaker 4: C and Uh, so you're talking about a a well
Speaker 4: qualified staff, but man extra special because of the human
Speaker 4: beings they are. And then obviously with the offense to
Speaker 4: the day and and having him here, and we were
Speaker 4: talking just earlier today about Bike Leech uh and what
Speaker 4: he's in to me and my family, but also for
Speaker 4: him as a mentor and as a former coach. Uh,
Speaker 4: I'm so fired up, so fared up, just knowing where
Speaker 4: we're at now and and moving forward the direction and
Speaker 4: seeing our guys attacked this off season training in the
Speaker 4: early stage. Truly looking forward to getting on the grass
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 3: So coach, I've been here since eighty seven, Covered told
Speaker 3: me from eighty eight to eighty nine before I went
Speaker 3: to cover to Loot and I have a coach with Joe,
Speaker 3: with Pat here in front of me and you. And
Speaker 3: one of the things I realized these years that coaching matters.
Speaker 3: Coaching matters, and I think a lot of people are
Speaker 3: excited to have you here because you bring something. You
Speaker 3: bring something like a personality, a love for the game,
Speaker 3: and it's very apparent what's your secret sauce because people
Speaker 3: do gravitate or players do gravitate to you.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 4: And that was one of the things I picked up
Speaker 4: on Coach told me, just being being ourselves and then
Speaker 4: having the joy and the passion for what you do.
Speaker 4: I think that that starts there. It is one thing
Speaker 4: to work and train, but if you do it with
Speaker 4: a with that kind of perspective and outlook, then it
Speaker 4: doesn't become of work. It becomes your your vocation. And
Speaker 4: that's what's been for me. It's been about loyalty, uh
Speaker 4: to the people that I work with alongside with, and
Speaker 4: in our our commitment to our student athletes because uh
Speaker 4: we were once in those seats and to have that opera,
Speaker 4: that perspective. I've just been just been really fortunate and
Speaker 4: blessed to be a part of a lot of these families,
Speaker 4: lives and whatnot, and to see them not just graduate,
Speaker 4: but to prove, uh proceed onto the National Football League
Speaker 4: stage and doing well.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Those are the things. I'm excited for our guys because
Speaker 4: we have you know, coaching Tina has put up many
Speaker 4: gym sources of work. If I'm a dB in this
Speaker 4: country and I'm looking to be developed so that i
Speaker 4: can have a shot of staying in the league, not
Speaker 4: to get to the league, I would put there ain't
Speaker 4: no doubt I'm coming to do so. On a visit
Speaker 4: coach Dwayne and Keith. That is just outrageous that some
Speaker 4: of these families. But again, we're not going to stay
Speaker 4: in between families and there and their decisions and finances.
Speaker 4: But if they're truly about development mentorship, well you can't
Speaker 4: look any further than our staff the A because Sale
Speaker 4: is the best as they come in that regard to
Speaker 4: And so I'm just really honored and humbled to be
Speaker 4: among these guys here and our staff here and what
Speaker 4: coach Brannan is is working to change.
Speaker 3: It's funny you talk about all that we talk about
Speaker 3: how the game has changed, nil transfer portal, But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, and I talked about this
Speaker 3: with that, because he's had a lot of success at
Speaker 3: the high school level, I just want to stay titled.
Speaker 3: The game of football hasn't you know, you got to
Speaker 3: have some passion, you got to have the will wherewithal,
Speaker 3: you got to love to play for your coach, things
Speaker 3: like that, And.
Speaker 4: It truly starts there. What's happening now, Uh, there's so
Speaker 4: many other components and so many people, uh that are
Speaker 4: infiltrating the families and there and their decision that has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with a young man, but uh, the
Speaker 4: posture that they have the best interest of the young
Speaker 4: kid and that's why they're having there's more than over
Speaker 4: six thousand student nastic football players in the portal because
Speaker 4: of being ill advised or we're going to a program
Speaker 4: for all the wrong reasons. And so you know, you'll
Speaker 4: continue to have those those type of situation you're in,
Speaker 4: you're out. But you know again, you know, we we
Speaker 4: we we play to the tune of our of our
Speaker 4: university and what we're we're good at and what we're
Speaker 4: great at. And we can only speak on what the
Speaker 4: University Arizona can provide and which is a lot, a lot.
Speaker 4: It's a city, it's a truly a college town that
Speaker 4: has grown but still have that uh warm uh uh
Speaker 4: slow pace uh ways, and I think those are the
Speaker 4: things that I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: We got a good engineering program, we got medical, we
Speaker 4: got law, law school, I mean all those things, and
Speaker 4: we highlight those things with the families, with with with
Speaker 4: with integrity and respect because you know, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, they can lead Tucson Arizona knowing that, uh,
Speaker 4: we've been transparent, we've been upfront, and uh we don't
Speaker 4: hide nothing of why Arizona is a great fit for
Speaker 4: the further your further sons.
Speaker 5: You know, Coach I obviously learned a lot from coach
Speaker 5: Tony and really got into the profession. But I was
Speaker 5: telling Steve a little earlier one of the highlights of
Speaker 5: my career what I learned from coach Tomy was relationships.
Speaker 5: But I think one of the things I see and
Speaker 5: asking you is with the transfers and things, do you
Speaker 5: feel like you're lacking those those relationships with the kids
Speaker 5: and they move on so fast that you know, we
Speaker 5: back in the good old days with desert's warm you
Speaker 5: got to build such a culture there. That culture has
Speaker 5: kind of changed a little bit. In football.
Speaker 4: I think every every every college, every university, every institution
Speaker 4: is just is dealing with that right now, you know,
Speaker 4: And that's why it's important from the outset in the
Speaker 4: recruiting process of taking the deep dive into the things
Speaker 4: that are meaningful to the families of what matters most.
Speaker 4: And so if it comes down to where it's us
Speaker 4: or them, if they go the other way, well that
Speaker 4: things because of the portal. Seven months later, those families,
Speaker 4: those very families are calling back because they realize that okay,
Speaker 4: through the relationship, through the integrity of it all, these
Speaker 4: are the family, these are this is the university that
Speaker 4: their staff has been upfront and so it's happened before
Speaker 4: now where those those relationships came back around and and
Speaker 4: and and so for us, we're not going to harp
Speaker 4: on on spilt milk and we're not We're going to
Speaker 4: get the players that are meant to be here, uh
Speaker 4: for the University of Arizona. But we also uh pride
Speaker 4: ourselves uh in being upfront, being transparent, but also being realistic,
Speaker 4: uh with with the families because I think those are
Speaker 4: the things have a funny way of circling back. But
Speaker 4: it is relationship.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Now, are we going to be out bit by others? Yes,
Speaker 4: yes we are. It's just the way of the fact.
Speaker 4: That's the fact of life. But at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, still there's a lot more that the University
Speaker 4: Arizona in here in Tucsa that we offer for for
Speaker 4: for the majority of these families.
Speaker 5: I know, Coach Tomy always used to say, and go
Speaker 5: pick up rocks. You gotta go find look for rocks
Speaker 5: and look for guys that can play and have that
Speaker 5: desire to play and any back in the days he
Speaker 5: found those guys that you know, like yourself and Teddy
Speaker 5: Bruski that that played a lot better than they were recorded.
Speaker 3: The wall drops and those guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you got to develop, You got to develop, and it's
Speaker 4: easy to develop a further along uh athlete. Uh that
Speaker 4: you know, not every every institution have the same uh
Speaker 4: setting or the same makeup, and so for us, uh
Speaker 4: it circles back to how can we uh develop and
Speaker 4: teach and having that plan laid out from day one
Speaker 4: to year one to year two, and those things, Uh,
Speaker 4: sometimes they get distorted with all the other components that
Speaker 4: have nothing to do with the young men's development. But
Speaker 4: people will try to distract them. But you know by
Speaker 4: drawing those those those other uh, those those things that
Speaker 4: that that takes the family attention away from. But those
Speaker 4: things exactly what you guys are alluding to are are
Speaker 4: still uh vidently important. And you know, I've been fortunate
Speaker 4: again to develop some of the guys I call it
Speaker 4: my no star guys uh from the Islands. Uh and
Speaker 4: uh they got to graduate and they got to play
Speaker 4: in the NFL, you know, And I think those are
Speaker 4: the things If the kids young man is not looking
Speaker 4: to go play uh for the National Football League, they're
Speaker 4: not They're not supposed to be here at the University Arizona.
Speaker 4: You know, you need guys that are truly excited and
Speaker 4: looking forward to be mentored and coached and developed for
Speaker 4: that opportunity uh to graduate and uh and and and
Speaker 4: play in the National Football Because we always tell the
Speaker 4: young man it is not about getting to the league,
Speaker 4: it's staying in the league. Teddy bruce Ki didn't just
Speaker 4: get to the league. He played and stayed in the
Speaker 4: league because of his development. While Waldrop all these guys, uh,
Speaker 4: Brent Boyer, I mean, the list goes on a lot
Speaker 4: of handful of afordable work winners. Catalyst Christ mccallis, The
Speaker 4: list goes on and on, but I think, yeh, your
Speaker 4: relationship is even more so important because of the development
Speaker 4: plan and everybody's plan is different. And I'm excited just
Speaker 4: to be here in the building a short time just
Speaker 4: to listen and sitting in on some of the coaches
Speaker 4: planned for development at their positions.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 4: It is awesome, and uh, I'm just honored to have
Speaker 4: the opportunity to be on the staff and then for
Speaker 4: Coach Brandan for allowing me that opportunity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many connections. So I would be remiss
Speaker 3: by didn't ask both you guys quick quick stories on
Speaker 3: Tony because you you were in a capacity different than
Speaker 3: than than coach Joe, right, Pat, So maybe you give
Speaker 3: me a quick quick story about maybe how we influenced
Speaker 3: you or maybe a moment that you said, hey, what's
Speaker 3: this guy saying? It's good? And maybe Joe right after.
Speaker 5: I'm sure Joe knows one of the things we do,
Speaker 5: we call them reminders at our place. But Coach told
Speaker 5: me it was infamous for doing roles and that's when
Speaker 5: you lay on your side and you roll.
Speaker 7: And I always remember back in the days when we were.
Speaker 5: You know, staying in the camp and the kids were
Speaker 5: staying at the hotel and a bunch of guys were late,
Speaker 5: so Coach told me brought the entire team out to
Speaker 5: the U of A mall and rolled them at about
Speaker 5: one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 7: So you guys tooken that night. But that was a
Speaker 7: typical U A story.
Speaker 5: And you know, and I remember we got the message,
Speaker 5: got the message. I remember losing a Washington state back
Speaker 5: in eighty nine, I think it was. I remember that
Speaker 5: we got off the plane about three am and Dixter
Speaker 5: wanted to run practice at six am that morning, you know,
Speaker 5: and those are the things.
Speaker 4: And it was at that moment we went to the
Speaker 4: morning regiment. And it is funny now that everybody knows
Speaker 4: everybody in America are going early morning sessions, he said,
Speaker 4: the afternoon and uh, and that is that's a fact.
Speaker 4: I tell that story. I was like, yep, get off
Speaker 4: to play about two to three and be right back
Speaker 4: in mckill center because we're freaking practicing and run. But
Speaker 4: so this morning, you know, just finally got a chance
Speaker 4: to trying to trying to walk and get it in
Speaker 4: at five thirty before we get going with the guys
Speaker 4: and their conditioning. You know, it didn't dawn on me
Speaker 4: in that outdoor portion of the indoor facility. I was
Speaker 4: walking and I looked over to the to my right.
Speaker 4: There's a big Bureau of Coach on there. And I didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't it didn't. I didn't see it
Speaker 4: until this morning, and I paused, and there was a
Speaker 4: It was one of those moments you know, got really
Speaker 4: you know, brought brought a little bit of tears in
Speaker 4: mind just because of who that man was, uh and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, really really grateful for what he means to
Speaker 4: many of us, that we're fortunate to be uh players
Speaker 4: for him, not just here at Arizona, but at the
Speaker 4: University of Hawaii and and so forth. And so you know,
Speaker 4: I was got me so far out up this morning,
Speaker 4: I couldn't you know, I couldn't tell you just how blessed,
Speaker 4: oh blessed it is to have this opportunity to be here,
Speaker 4: and I know he's here in spirit, and we're just
Speaker 4: looking to make sure that we put our best foot
Speaker 4: forward now and excited looking ahead for a springball to
Speaker 4: take off.
Speaker 3: Well, coach, I appreciate your time. Good luck, I We'll
Speaker 3: see you soon in springball.
Speaker 7: Good luck, coach.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate your time. Appreciate it a lot.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my in the ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
Speaker 3: today is Pat Lucien from Micro Mountain. Now on the phone,
Speaker 3: we have Harvey Mason from so many things. The Grammys.
Speaker 3: Ve Harvey, how are you?
Speaker 6: It's been good? Well, how are you all?
Speaker 3: We're doing fine. Thank you. You're a busy, busy man.
Speaker 3: What's up.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm a little crazy, but I'm doing well. I'm happy.
Speaker 15: I'm having a good time. Missed two song. I wish
Speaker 15: I was out there with y'all.
Speaker 3: Well, the weather's perfect for you, that's next seventy eight
Speaker 3: degrees here in mid February.
Speaker 6: But nice. Well it's not bad in La.
Speaker 3: Oh, of course, not just the traffic. I can't do
Speaker 3: with the traffic. Other than that, LA is cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: How tell me before we get into basketball, tell me
Speaker 3: how how were the Grammys? What's your title now? Because
Speaker 3: you get better and better titles all the time.
Speaker 6: My title has been CEO of the Recording Academy.
Speaker 15: And the Grammys and Music Cares. And it's been five
Speaker 15: years now, if you can believe that.
Speaker 6: I was the chair of the board for one year.
Speaker 6: Nice about five years ago.
Speaker 3: So nice, yeah, fantastic. I mean you've been very you know,
Speaker 3: I said, I told Pat. I told Pat Harvey's going
Speaker 3: to be on the show. He said, oh great, they
Speaker 3: had the song. But you know, well about the Cats
Speaker 3: way back in the day. Of course, everyone still plays
Speaker 3: that Everyone still plays that song.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 5: We got to ask you that, Harvey, when you when
Speaker 5: you were part of that song, did you ever know
Speaker 5: that would lead to the.
Speaker 7: Career that you're in right now and being a legend
Speaker 7: that you are. Well, thank you for the legend status.
Speaker 15: But I did know that I was going to be
Speaker 15: involved in music before I came to the U of A.
Speaker 15: I was writing songs and producing music and come from
Speaker 15: a musical family, so it was always in my blood
Speaker 15: and part of what I thought my life would include.
Speaker 15: But I did want to play basketball, so I came
Speaker 15: to U of A with big dreams of playing the
Speaker 15: NBA and didn't work out in that way. But I
Speaker 15: always knew that music would be a part of what
Speaker 15: I did for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question, And you're doing it very well. When
Speaker 3: I also got you and you said yes to come
Speaker 3: on those those teammates of yours back in the day. Look,
Speaker 3: Steve is, Steve is, of course Steve with the Golden
Speaker 3: State Warriors, Olympic Guys champions, Sean doing what he does
Speaker 3: Tobert Matt Meilboch an attorney, Tobert doing his stuff in
Speaker 3: Northern California. Pretty overachieving dudes, not just on court but
Speaker 3: on life.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we had a really group of people and you
Speaker 15: probably could have gone on five or six eight more
Speaker 15: guys that just went on to do really cool things
Speaker 15: and be good, good members of society and good teammates,
Speaker 15: good friends.
Speaker 6: Good husbands.
Speaker 15: We had a unique bond that team, and I think
Speaker 15: we all rubbed off on each other. I don't believe
Speaker 15: or have the overinflated opinion of myself to think for
Speaker 15: a minute that I arrived in Tucson the complete package
Speaker 15: as a human.
Speaker 6: You know, I was a good basketball player.
Speaker 15: We were all good basketball players, but we learned a
Speaker 15: lot from Coach Olsen. We learned a lot from each other.
Speaker 15: I mean, think about the environment that we were in,
Speaker 15: not even on the court, but just in a day
Speaker 15: to day life with Coach O and Steve Kerr and
Speaker 15: Kenny Lofton and all these different people that just brought
Speaker 15: out the best in each other.
Speaker 6: And it's a weird dynamic.
Speaker 15: We all continue to stay in touch, and for me,
Speaker 15: I can't speak for everyone else, but I try and
Speaker 15: move in a way that would make my teammates proud
Speaker 15: and make them say, Okay, Harvey's doing good stuff. So
Speaker 15: that's a different kind of nuanced type of pressure that
Speaker 15: I think we all amongst our group.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't even mention Kenny, and I haven't mentioned Judd.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, ye oh, you guys.
Speaker 7: You know Harvey.
Speaker 5: You know we're all go back to those eighty eight team,
Speaker 5: and you know, I was a student there, worked the
Speaker 5: basketball games, and you guys started this tradition at UV.
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys were you know.
Speaker 5: I know we won a national title in ninety seven,
Speaker 5: but I think everybody as a Tusonian will always remember
Speaker 5: that eighty eight team and how specially were when you
Speaker 5: guys when you came here and obviously Coach Olson, But
Speaker 5: did you see the program going in the direction that
Speaker 5: it is now and starting the tradition that you guys
Speaker 5: started in eighty eight.
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and we can try and downplay it, but I.
Speaker 6: Personally knew we were going to be a great team.
Speaker 15: I knew the caliber of players that Coach Olson was recruiting.
Speaker 15: I was, I believe, the third recruiting class, so before
Speaker 15: me were great, great athletes, great players. And I also
Speaker 15: knew from meeting Coach Olson for ten minutes that he
Speaker 15: was a special leader of players, of athletes, of young men,
Speaker 15: and that is a combination. To me, that was a
Speaker 15: great recipe for success, and it proved to be true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question. In fact, in some of my books,
Speaker 3: you've been very candid with your situation. You know, when
Speaker 3: you get here and you're not alone, Well, I kind
Speaker 3: of blew it there. But you came here, you were
Speaker 3: a little upset or disheartened, and you wanted to leave,
Speaker 3: and you said, everybody wants to leave because you know,
Speaker 3: it's a tough situation. But your guys are glad that
Speaker 3: you didn't because you got better and you became who
Speaker 3: you became.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I think about the environment around college basketball now, having
Speaker 15: had the rules in place, the ni all, the transfer portal,
Speaker 15: it would have been a very different situation. I can't
Speaker 15: imagine any of the players that you named on that
Speaker 15: list probably would have hung around. Maybe besides Steve, he
Speaker 15: wasn't going anywhere, But everyone else at some point or
Speaker 15: another was frustrated or angry or disappointed.
Speaker 6: So I'm glad that all of us stuck it out.
Speaker 15: And I'm glad that you know, we had that kind
Speaker 15: of the idea that things would continue to evolve and
Speaker 15: get better over time, and they did regardless of if
Speaker 15: it was playing time, but just as a person as
Speaker 15: a human, we all benefited from being in Tucson as
Speaker 15: a part of that program for the years that we
Speaker 15: were there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Harvey.
Speaker 5: Before we get to this year's team, one question I
Speaker 5: got to ask, yet, who started the Gumbies. Who was
Speaker 5: the first guy that got that Gumby's going back in
Speaker 5: those days.
Speaker 6: His name was Bruce Frasier.
Speaker 15: And if you don't know who he is, he is
Speaker 15: now Steph Curry's shooting guru. And you see him warming
Speaker 15: up Steph every day. He looks a lot different now
Speaker 15: because he's got gray hair.
Speaker 3: We all do.
Speaker 6: He was, He was the original Gumby.
Speaker 15: I don't think he ever really started as a U
Speaker 15: of a athlete, but he was always the consummate team member,
Speaker 15: always kind of led the scout team. And I think
Speaker 15: when the Gumbies really became popular in eighty eight, he
Speaker 15: had graduated and was in a GA I could have
Speaker 15: my dates wrong, but I believe he was a grad assistant.
Speaker 15: And so it was you know, me and Sean and
Speaker 15: Judd and Muhlbach and Kevin Rooks. So it was a
Speaker 15: combination of Q starting it.
Speaker 6: That's what we call it.
Speaker 15: Bruce was Q, and then all of us kind of
Speaker 15: just taking the name and the identity and and running
Speaker 15: with it.
Speaker 7: Was that the media that gave you that name? Or
Speaker 7: are you guys creating it?
Speaker 15: No, we created and it came from Q, and Q
Speaker 15: named the the scrubs or the B team or whatever
Speaker 15: you want to call us, the gumbies because every week
Speaker 15: in practice we would be a different team, you know,
Speaker 15: when we were playing USC, we would be malleable and
Speaker 15: transform into the US team if we were playing Duke
Speaker 15: that week, and then we'd be Duke and so Q.
Speaker 15: So I feel like a gumby. I'm just getting stretched
Speaker 15: and pulled and pushed around. Yeah, and so that's how
Speaker 15: the name started.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I think one of the guys, maybe even
Speaker 3: in Q, who wore a you know, put a little
Speaker 3: gumby in his in his sneaker a time or two,
Speaker 3: you know, just to get.
Speaker 6: In his socket fell out the line in garbage time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. There was another question told. I think
Speaker 3: Matt told me this meal Buck back in the day.
Speaker 3: There was a time maybe eighty eight, maybe eighty nine,
Speaker 3: where you did. The reserves would play the starters, and
Speaker 3: you guys wouldn't go and finish practice until the starters won,
Speaker 3: or when day won, it would be over. There was
Speaker 3: a time or two when you guys, the backups would
Speaker 3: beat the starters and Lout would get so pissed that
Speaker 3: he'd let you. He'd make you guys play until they want.
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, truth be told, and you can maybe
Speaker 15: get some different opinions from different people, but.
Speaker 6: The Gumbies as we were known and eighty eight.
Speaker 15: Would often beat the starters like a drum and a
Speaker 15: lot of it was because we were really good, but
Speaker 15: some of it was. I'm sure they were fatigued. They
Speaker 15: were playing a lot of heavy minutes. They weren't concentrating
Speaker 15: sometimes because we were I think twenty three and two
Speaker 15: that year, something like that, and I'm sure they dismissed
Speaker 15: us a little bit, but we were going like our
Speaker 15: live dependent on it, because that's how we contributed to
Speaker 15: the success of the team was prepare our starters the
Speaker 15: best we could, say, Matt Mulbach and I would take
Speaker 15: on the identity of the oppost in backcourt and we
Speaker 15: would try and beat Steve and Craig mcviillain to a
Speaker 15: pulp every single practice, and we took it personally.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, that's why that I heard. As always,
Speaker 3: I always refer to the eightya team, and I'll move
Speaker 3: this back to today, that the eighty eight team, especially
Speaker 3: firstborn type of you know, the first team for Arizona
Speaker 3: and Tucson. To love you guys and the thing that
Speaker 3: you guys had, at least in my mind, you guys
Speaker 3: had that killer instinct and enjoyed beating the crap out
Speaker 3: of teams. Not too many teams, not too many teams
Speaker 3: since have done that. Look this this year of a
Speaker 3: good talented team, but they don't have that to get
Speaker 3: it done and beat the crap out of teams.
Speaker 15: There's a different kind of loyalty then than there is now.
Speaker 15: We played for each other, we played for the school,
Speaker 15: we played for the block a were we were proud
Speaker 15: to beat in Tucson. We were representing our fan base,
Speaker 15: our families. And now these young athletes are so talented
Speaker 15: and probably so much better in vidual athletes than we
Speaker 15: ever were, and they're so cool, and they're so well
Speaker 15: taken care of and they're so conditioned. But we were
Speaker 15: really really playing for the pride of our team and
Speaker 15: for the pride of each other, and it drove us
Speaker 15: to be I guess, probably a little crazy sometimes and
Speaker 15: beat people worse and then we probably needed to.
Speaker 6: But it was also the underdog scenario.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 15: We were just starting as a program to become nationally
Speaker 15: recognized and we wanted to prove a point. My freshman year,
Speaker 15: we went to Georgetown and we played them, I think
Speaker 15: it was in Philadelphia in a tournament game, and Georgetown
Speaker 15: were grown men. They came out with beards and after
Speaker 15: the game they were kissing their kids and hugging their
Speaker 15: wives and they beat us so badly. And I'll never
Speaker 15: forget that feeling as a freshman saying, we got to
Speaker 15: get a lot better if we're going to compete with
Speaker 15: this team. And coach Olsen told us in the locker room,
Speaker 15: he said, that's the team that you have to measure
Speaker 15: yourself against. So a lot of that hunger, a lot
Speaker 15: of that feeling of being not good enough and being
Speaker 15: of a program that wasn't respected. It drove us to
Speaker 15: try and step on the next of everyone we played.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it takes a special group to do that,
Speaker 3: and I still believe that. Obviously a special group that team,
Speaker 3: the two thousand and one team got to the championship game.
Speaker 3: Obviously ninety seven Kinna went on that run, and in
Speaker 3: a couple of teams since then. What do you see
Speaker 3: in this team?
Speaker 15: I see incredible athleticism, incredible talent. I've gotten to see
Speaker 15: one game in person, which was such a thrill, and
Speaker 15: it really made me like, try and imagine what in
Speaker 15: the world I was doing on the court playing with
Speaker 15: players like that, because they seem so much faster and
Speaker 15: more athletic than I remember. But it seems like they
Speaker 15: have a good camaraderie. I really am enjoying the way
Speaker 15: they're playing together. And I gotta say I love coach
Speaker 15: Lloyd's style of interacting with the players. He has the
Speaker 15: trust of the players, and he feels like he trusts them.
Speaker 15: There's a real interaction between the two that sometimes you
Speaker 15: don't see between a college coach DGE players, and I
Speaker 15: think he's done a great job of figuring out how
Speaker 15: to work with young adult athletes.
Speaker 5: Was Coach Lloyd open the door for you guys, I mean,
Speaker 5: you're part of the program.
Speaker 7: Is he let you guys in and out? Once in
Speaker 7: a while, it's just tradition that you guys have bringing
Speaker 7: to the current team.
Speaker 15: Now, well, even beyond that, he's actually actively reached out
Speaker 15: to us and invited us to be involved in things
Speaker 15: and invited us to events and to games, and so
Speaker 15: it's not like, hey, if you want to come back,
Speaker 15: you're welcome, it's please come back, Please be a part
Speaker 15: of the program. And I think he sees the value
Speaker 15: in some of the you know, ex athletes that came
Speaker 15: through the program, and hopefully we can bring something to
Speaker 15: the table that's helpful to him, because we all have
Speaker 15: a lot of pride in that program.
Speaker 3: As I said, yeah, there's still too a little Loot
Speaker 3: in Tommy in a sense that the same kind of
Speaker 3: style up and down and let you guys play. But
Speaker 3: there's also the leeway I mean with you guys. You
Speaker 3: guys weren't friends with Loot until you got out of
Speaker 3: the program, right, you guys, You guys kind of listened.
Speaker 15: To I don't Yeah, I don't think you can even
Speaker 15: compare not to be disagreeable, Steve. But Lout and Tommy
Speaker 15: are so far from the other ends of each other.
Speaker 15: The one thing they have in common is they're incredibly
Speaker 15: smart basketball minds and they are building winning programs. But
Speaker 15: the way lut did it, and if you remember when
Speaker 15: I was there, Steve, it was not getting up and
Speaker 15: down and running and having to creative freedom to do.
Speaker 15: It was very restrictive. We had plays on every set
Speaker 15: and if you did too much penetrating, you get yelled at.
Speaker 6: If you jump to too many times, yell that.
Speaker 15: And it was hard to be a young player coming
Speaker 15: out of high school eighteen nineteen years old who was
Speaker 15: an All American or All cif for whatever you were,
Speaker 15: and then come into this robotic system. But it worked,
Speaker 15: and if you could buy into that system, you would
Speaker 15: win and you would succeed as a player. Whereas Tommy,
Speaker 15: I think, is really trying to utilize the athletes that
Speaker 15: he has and build his team and his system around
Speaker 15: them and really let them have the freedom to create
Speaker 15: and explore and develop how the game goes.
Speaker 6: And he's not going to ride them the entire game.
Speaker 15: And that's why I really preciated about him, and and
Speaker 15: and Sean Miller was not like that. Sean Miller was
Speaker 15: yelling from the beginning of the game to the end
Speaker 15: of the game, and I kind of imagine playing for
Speaker 15: a coach that was that controlling and that restrictive. So
Speaker 15: I think it's a great mix that Tommy is deployed
Speaker 15: with these young athletes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you say that because you you're not
Speaker 3: that You're right, You're very right. I think that Luke
Speaker 3: kind of changed when he went with the Towers, the
Speaker 3: big men to the small with Kalid and Damon and
Speaker 3: Reggie and said, Okay, we're going to change it up,
Speaker 3: give you more freedom with the style of play.
Speaker 15: Yes, well, that's how smart coach Olsoen was right. The
Speaker 15: guy figured it out and he said, I'm going to
Speaker 15: build a program around the talent that I have. And
Speaker 15: that's really the beginning of point guard. You if you
Speaker 15: think about it, because when I was there and with
Speaker 15: stevea there was it was definitely not point guard. You
Speaker 15: as a big man, you dribble to the wing, throw
Speaker 15: a bounce past to the post.
Speaker 6: In this watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Harvey, we asked Matt the same question earlier,
Speaker 5: But how do you think Luke would have done with this?
Speaker 7: With this world we live in with nil and for
Speaker 7: a portal right now?
Speaker 6: I think he would thrive.
Speaker 15: I think it's really credible, and I'll bet, I'll bet
Speaker 15: if you ask Matt, he would probably say he would
Speaker 15: have hated it, and he would have done well.
Speaker 6: I believe. I know he said that, I know why
Speaker 6: he said that.
Speaker 15: But coach also was such a smart, intelligent coach, and
Speaker 15: he was such a winner, and he cared so much
Speaker 15: about building the program in winning and succeeding, he would
Speaker 15: have adapted. He would have figured it out just the
Speaker 15: way he adapted when all of a sudden we recruited
Speaker 15: great point guards and he changed the style of play.
Speaker 15: He would have adapted to the way he needed to
Speaker 15: act and behave to win in this environment. I'm positive
Speaker 15: he would have been a winner. I don't know if
Speaker 15: he would have liked it, because, as Matt would have said,
Speaker 15: he's a traditionalist. He likes the loyalty, he likes to
Speaker 15: preach the things that are beyond basketball.
Speaker 6: But given the culture that.
Speaker 15: Is happening today, if he needed to adapt to it,
Speaker 15: I truly believe he could have and would have.
Speaker 7: How do you feel about the culture right now, mate?
Speaker 15: I can't. That's tough, That's it. I mean nothing beyond that.
Speaker 15: I don't like leaving a program when you just aren't happy.
Speaker 6: About it one day.
Speaker 15: I don't like the way that the financial component has
Speaker 15: been worked out. I absolutely believe in players having more
Speaker 15: freedom and rights and the ability to earn money because
Speaker 15: for far too long, institutions were making a lot of money,
Speaker 15: coaches were making a lot of money, and athletes were
Speaker 15: being overworked and underappreciated. So I'm in favor of college
Speaker 15: athletes having the ability to transfer and make a living.
Speaker 15: But I think it's gone too far and depends on
Speaker 15: the swung in the direction that I don't think is
Speaker 15: healthy for college basketball, and more importantly, I'm not sure
Speaker 15: it's healthy for the athletes that are playing college basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we won't know until we would find out.
Speaker 3: Whenever we find out, you know, Harvey, as always, thanks
Speaker 3: for talking. I love hearing from you.
Speaker 15: My pleasure. Good to talk to you, and I miss
Speaker 15: everyone in Tucson. I hope you all are well. Hope
Speaker 15: to come back and see great great thanks man, appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Take care.
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Speaker 3: he's five years with them, and he was doing a
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen,
Speaker 1: fidding I want to take part in the show. Call
Speaker 1: up Steve now went five to two oh four, one
Speaker 1: six seventy.
Speaker 2: Four for night.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to why on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, your mister Pat
Speaker 3: Ducents formerly Mike does not.
Speaker 5: Sound formerly sounds a little weird right now you know,
Speaker 5: I'm still on campus, a little different being around the
Speaker 5: boys a little bit, but uh, you know, we'll we'll
Speaker 5: start enjoying it sooner or later.
Speaker 3: Niemer will do great. Yeah, who's coming out.
Speaker 6: With J J. Boss?
Speaker 7: Right? Nimer's the present principal and he's.
Speaker 3: Done really well. He's a new football Yeah. Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 3: come on, I feel sorry for you guys. Guys gonna
Speaker 3: keep winning. Yeah, if you guys want to call, please
Speaker 3: do five to two oh four one, six, seventy four forty.
Speaker 3: We can take some calls. Uh, let us know how
Speaker 3: we did today. Good interviews, I thought.
Speaker 7: Oh, great legends right now? Yes, and you know I
Speaker 7: mean good questions to the nation.
Speaker 5: As big as can be right there. You know, you
Speaker 5: get a guy and then coach Salavea. You know, but
Speaker 5: you'm trying.
Speaker 3: You have some good questions too. The media has done
Speaker 3: well for you, did you when you when you have
Speaker 3: to deal with the people like us, did you?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 5: No, you always wanted to promote your program, and I
Speaker 5: always thought it was great for the kids. You know,
Speaker 5: things have changed so much in high school back in
Speaker 5: your days, back in the Tucson Citizen when we recovered
Speaker 5: high school sports a little bit.
Speaker 7: It was neat, but you.
Speaker 5: Know, you don't get as much, you know, the right
Speaker 5: You know, the Morales brothers do such a great job
Speaker 5: and pretty much the only job out there for kids,
Speaker 5: and that was great.
Speaker 3: You know, you didn't restrict them, did you, did you say?
Speaker 5: Okay, well, we restricted some kids that we didn't allow
Speaker 5: to talk, you know, but just they weren't going to
Speaker 5: do well.
Speaker 7: We're going to have a tough time with the media.
Speaker 7: But mostly our top kids were okay.
Speaker 3: Not because they you were afraid of what they're going
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 5: No because they probably weren't going to be real good
Speaker 5: in front of people and talking.
Speaker 3: So well, we appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were going to have a hard time,
Speaker 5: but you know it's different.
Speaker 7: You know, obviously we laugh a little bit when we
Speaker 7: won the state title.
Speaker 5: Wow, and the media was there and you know, there
Speaker 5: was fifteen cameras around me and we kind of laughed
Speaker 5: a little bit, and you know, that was a different experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question, no question. That's good for you.
Speaker 3: Uh and now you're going to be just pat Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's it. Although I'm sure everyone's gonna call you coach, coach.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be called out that.
Speaker 5: You know, I got five grand kids now, so I
Speaker 5: gotta do some George a little bit around there and
Speaker 5: watch the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, no, good, Welcome to the real world. It's
Speaker 3: fun out here.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I'll let you know another year or two, we'll see
Speaker 7: how that goes.
Speaker 3: You'll go to the mall now and you know you
Speaker 3: remember read No, I don't know you.
Speaker 7: Love buddy.
Speaker 5: I'm nobody on campus anymore, walk around. Nobody knows who
Speaker 5: I am anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, No, that's good for you guys. Again,
Speaker 3: if you like to call, we got about ten minutes
Speaker 3: five to four, one six seventy four forty uh talk
Speaker 3: about the basketball team and talk about football team whatever
Speaker 3: you guys want to talk about. The women won last night, right,
Speaker 3: that was part of your breaking news. Probably would you
Speaker 3: have anything with that? No, I was just going to
Speaker 3: say just that they want. Yeah, you didn't cover anything,
Speaker 3: did you You didn't.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get home for the big hockey game tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Big US Canadian hockey. Yeah you you follow that? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: tell me Big four, Big two?
Speaker 3: What is it? Canada?
Speaker 6: Uh us firsus Cannabis tonight in the finals.
Speaker 3: How many how many fights? What's the over under in
Speaker 3: the fights today?
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna fight. I think they got
Speaker 5: in the other night and I think they got it in.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be like a game seven.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: They don't want to get thrown out if they want
Speaker 5: to be a part of it, and it's gonna be intense.
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: They've really promoted this and I think it's taken off
Speaker 5: for them, and I don't think they expected such a
Speaker 5: big thing.
Speaker 7: It's gone. It's going big.
Speaker 3: I think we've got a call. Hello, you're on the
Speaker 3: air and nine on the ball. Who's this? Who's this?
Speaker 6: Hell?
Speaker 3: You on the air?
Speaker 6: This is done?
Speaker 3: Done? How are you done?
Speaker 4: I'm good?
Speaker 6: How are you doing?
Speaker 3: Coach?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 7: Thanks? How you doing?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 6: I'm all right.
Speaker 18: Hey, I missed this last dollar.
Speaker 4: We're doing some.
Speaker 18: Work stuff, so I'm gonna have to go back and
Speaker 18: listen back. But that that interview with Matt Austik was
Speaker 18: pretty good. One thing I wanted to cover with you, Steve,
Speaker 18: was you know, for years we always wanted to in
Speaker 18: fact twelve to be to level up to Arizona, Yeah,
Speaker 18: and be better because we were seventeen and one, sixteen and.
Speaker 3: Two, and now we're in that.
Speaker 18: And it's hard getting used to it.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, okay, perfect, you perfectly said. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you this though, but don't you or I don't want
Speaker 3: to influence your your How do you feel now going
Speaker 3: into the tournament? Don't you feel a little bit better?
Speaker 18: I think we're going to be better suited for the tournament,
Speaker 18: and then I think that might and in the long run,
Speaker 18: when maybe we're not as good of a team as
Speaker 18: we think we are, maybe we'll be that little bit better,
Speaker 18: a little bit tougher that we're able to get through,
Speaker 18: you know, to get through a round or two, and
Speaker 18: maybe we don't, you know, we don't get too because
Speaker 18: before you know, when we were you know you're a
Speaker 18: top one or two seed, you know you're expected to
Speaker 18: get to the to the regional final at least. And
Speaker 18: I think that now we may we may be better
Speaker 18: suited to win some games that maybe we didn't think
Speaker 18: we could.
Speaker 3: Right. So, so I'm gonna ask this a question because
Speaker 3: I know my answer will maybe lost. Pat. So, So,
Speaker 3: to this point, twenty some games into it, what's been
Speaker 3: the most impressive thing to you or most eye opening
Speaker 3: with basketball.
Speaker 18: I think the resilience and and the ability that they've
Speaker 18: been able to stick together and win some games that maybe,
Speaker 18: you know, because there's always that little lull and then
Speaker 18: they lose the lead or or or they either lose
Speaker 18: the lead or they fall behind. But they don't panic.
Speaker 18: They're just they just stay in it, and they stay
Speaker 18: together and and and they just you know, they've they've
Speaker 18: been able to win more often than not. You know,
Speaker 18: after those first nine games or so.
Speaker 5: I think everybody in Tucson has to, you know, appreciate
Speaker 5: the effort these kids have shown. You know, they're they're
Speaker 5: shootings off. They're not you know, shooting every ball right.
Speaker 5: They go out and play hard. You know, they go
Speaker 5: play hard. They play defense, which is a great thing
Speaker 5: to watch. And you know, they've been in every game.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we go to but two months
Speaker 5: ago when they were four and five, I think too
Speaker 5: Sonians were ready to bail on them. But I think
Speaker 5: everybody's back on board and excited about them. And you know,
Speaker 5: love catches on fire. We're gonna win any game.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing. That'll be My quick thing
Speaker 3: is the toughness, the physicalness, that they've been able to
Speaker 3: show because don you followed a long time, you Pat,
Speaker 3: and me too. They haven't been tough like this, they
Speaker 3: haven't been physically enough like this, and this is something
Speaker 3: that is new and it's kind of fun to watch.
Speaker 18: No, well, we've you know, for years, we've gone into
Speaker 18: tournaments against mid majors and you look at these guys
Speaker 18: and you're going, that team looks like grown men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Princeton and our team and our team looks like
Speaker 3: a bunch of college kids.
Speaker 18: And now we're getting into that. You know, I think
Speaker 18: now with the tougher leagues we're getting into, we're gonna
Speaker 18: be better prepared to play those tough games.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just concerned if I am concerned, if I
Speaker 3: can be concerned because i'm you know, a journalist, whatever,
Speaker 3: that they won't get fatigued by that time it comes
Speaker 3: because they're only playing with seven eight guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll see how.
Speaker 3: It turns out. Yeah, okay, thanks Don, Yes, sir, a
Speaker 3: good one. Yeah, thanks. We got about three more minutes,
Speaker 3: maybe a time for one quick question or a quick call.
Speaker 3: But see how fast it goes.
Speaker 5: It goes fast. In two hours, I was excited to
Speaker 5: get here and it's already over. I don't know what
Speaker 5: to do with myself.
Speaker 3: This is like a ride on Disney. That's not why
Speaker 3: I shaved my legs for that. What's not for that?
Speaker 3: But it was good. It was good because we have
Speaker 3: good guests. Tomorrow, we're gonna have Jay will be in
Speaker 3: studio with us, so maybe we'll get into an argument
Speaker 3: or two. Get ready for the game on Saturday. B YU,
Speaker 3: so maybe we'll have a writer from b YU. B
Speaker 3: YU did pretty well against Kansas.
Speaker 5: They did, you know, they shoot, they shoot the rock
Speaker 5: real well, and you got to defend those guys and
Speaker 5: they're gonna you know, we played well that night and
Speaker 5: b YU and you know, obviously we always got an
Speaker 5: advantage at McHale. And yeah, it'll be exciting to see
Speaker 5: our kids come out and play.
Speaker 3: And can you can you being the coach and you're
Speaker 3: seeing the other team, can you tell from another team
Speaker 3: or a fund of language whatever, that they're just not
Speaker 3: into it?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Without question, I think you see that early in the game.
Speaker 5: You know, you try to get advantage of them early
Speaker 5: and knock them in the.
Speaker 7: Mouth a little bit.
Speaker 3: You tell that to the kids.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think every every coach is trying to
Speaker 5: get on right away and try to take the soul
Speaker 5: out of that other team and go out and play
Speaker 5: and knock them out early.
Speaker 7: You know, that was always our goal as a high.
Speaker 5: School coach, was you know, let's go and knock them
Speaker 5: in the mouth and try to get this game over early.
Speaker 3: Right, set the tone, set the tone. They're not here
Speaker 3: to play, let's take advantage and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's you know, it's great when the v A.
Speaker 5: You know, the crowd gets into it. McHale's rocking and
Speaker 5: it's hard to come into McHale. We all know that
Speaker 5: over the years. But you know they've got to do
Speaker 5: that and and just stay on top of them. I
Speaker 5: do not too often.
Speaker 7: Okay, So one or two a year, granted Water the
Speaker 7: Texas Tech game. That was a great eight game, one
Speaker 7: of the great games.
Speaker 3: I think that was the game. And I misspoke yesterday
Speaker 3: about about Henry because that game he looked gast. He
Speaker 3: looked ghast, and he played an unbelievable and I'll never
Speaker 3: forget that because he was about to fall apart and
Speaker 3: he didn't. Yeah, to your point of the crowd, Uh,
Speaker 3: there are times when they're criticized because they're not crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, everyone's old. They don't care. There are times
Speaker 3: when it's very, very good.
Speaker 7: I was an eight o'clock game that night, you know,
Speaker 7: eight thirty.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's great, great crowd, and then
Speaker 5: the place was loud and loust and excited.
Speaker 3: Houston game was like that, Iowa State game was like that.
Speaker 3: Of course, it takes I think every place in the country.
Speaker 3: If you've got a good game and good opponent, they're
Speaker 3: going to be there. Some games not so much. We'll
Speaker 3: see what happened Saturday, because it's another league game.
Speaker 7: We do, you know, and it's us. You have a fans.
Speaker 5: We live and die by the Caps, and hopefully they
Speaker 5: keep winning and keep us involved and tournaments right around
Speaker 5: the corner and be a little different. We're going to
Speaker 5: miss the Vegas and anybody's into Vegas for that was
Speaker 5: a creak up a time, been there a couple of times.
Speaker 7: And we're going to miss that. No one's going to
Speaker 7: Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I don't think they might have a little small kind
Speaker 3: of contingent. Have you been going to the games?
Speaker 6: Entry, Yeah, I've gone to basically every home game.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you got the kids under control.
Speaker 3: They haven't used the F word very much this year.
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna say I thought the Houston crowd
Speaker 3: maybe because of the start time was earlier. I didn't
Speaker 3: think it was as it was it was. There was
Speaker 3: some empty sea. Yeah, it was a great game. It
Speaker 3: was a great game. I think the Houston crowd eventually
Speaker 3: left disappointed because they had everyone. Oh we had the game. Well,
Speaker 3: Houston does what they do to you. They they it's
Speaker 3: the drip, drip, drip until you kind of can't take
Speaker 3: it anymore.
Speaker 7: Yeah, tough physical team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, two o'clock and you know at twelve
Speaker 5: o'clock team. You know, it was early and beautiful Tucson.
Speaker 5: Nobody wanted to leave.
Speaker 3: The outdoors sold out. But to your point, there was
Speaker 3: a lot of empty spots. Yeah, strangely, it was so
Speaker 3: a good crowd, but I think there were some other
Speaker 3: games so the crowd was better. Okay, you need to go.
Speaker 3: We're good to go. Yep, Thanks Henry, Thanks Pat Steve
Speaker 3: Greig for having you going to be Maybe you come
Speaker 3: back now that no, you're not.
Speaker 5: Plenty of times in my hands, so twenty afternoon may
Speaker 5: affect my afternoon nap a little bit.
Speaker 3: Don't hope your wife doesn't affect, you know, our friendship
Speaker 3: or whatever. Steve again, Yeah yeah, okay, thanks again