WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:06.200 July fifth, Look July night Cap. Gary Jeff Walker speaking 2 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:11.240 to you from the studios of seven hundred WLW, which 3 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.440 are located in Kinwood, right outside Cincinnati, Ohio, which, of 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:19.719 course is located in the greatest country on the face 5 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.960 of the earth, the Ussay, the United States of America. 6 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:28.559 God bless the USA. It's so great to be with 7 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:31.359 you tonight on a special nightcap. Let me tell you 8 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.920 what's coming up directly right after this break. Jerry Dale 9 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.840 jd as he was called back in the music industry 10 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.719 where he was very successful, but he found it very 11 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:48.799 hollow and it wasn't fulfilling. The fame and the fortune 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:56.560 weren't enough. Jerry Dale. We'll talk to you about his 13 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:03.039 transition from the music industry to porn to finding God 14 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.400 and Jesus. In fact, the book is called Music Porn 15 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.599 in Jesus. We'll talk to him. Next, we'll talk to 16 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:13.599 people from Veterans Companion Animal Services as they will join 17 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:20.760 us to introduce the Cincinnati chapter of that charity organization 18 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:25.159 for veterans and companion animals. It gon't be good. John 19 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:30.200 Lott will be here to talk about illegal immigrants and 20 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.560 the crimes they actually commit and what you may have 21 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:39.239 understood about the rates of crime among illegals and what 22 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:44.040 the conceptions are. The rates of crime among illegals is 23 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.319 actually higher than people like the Cato Institute and others 24 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.079 will admit. So John Lott will be joining us next hour, 25 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.079 and John Gordon, who has a show of his own 26 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.719 called The Truth About John Gordon and speaking of John's 27 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:03.560 mighty John Marsha. We'll be manning the Moneymusic dot Com 28 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.000 list tonight at eleven o'clock or just a tadbit after, 29 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:12.120 so let's get it started. Jerrydale and his story of 30 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:18.840 redemption coming up next on a holiday weekend nightcap. Great 31 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:22.800 to have you here. We are Saturday night, the fifth 32 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.280 of July, and I figured one of the ways we 33 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:29.840 could send this weekend out with the bang is to 34 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.159 talk about the most important thing that many of us 35 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.719 ignore or just I don't know. I don't know why 36 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.039 we don't pay more attention to the Alpha and Omega 37 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.080 and the God that created us all But tonight in 38 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.520 this segment, we're talking to Jerry Dale. And if you're 39 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.840 not familiar with Jerrydale, he was a big time in 40 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.719 the music industry, worked with artists like Will Smith, and 41 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.759 Snoop Dogg. And in twenty fifteen, something turned, something changed, 42 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.400 and what changed was Jerry Dale. And we're going to 43 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.080 talk about that as much in depth as he wants 44 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.199 to get into tonight. Is it kind of a witness 45 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:15.080 to Jesus Christ and to talk about where he was 46 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.520 before and where he is now. He has a new 47 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:21.879 book called Music, Porn and Jesus And no, that's not 48 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.919 the name of a band. That is the name of 49 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.319 the memoir of Jerry Tale, who reached the heights of 50 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.560 the music industry, working with the legends, only to find 51 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.680 himself trapped on the dark side. And many of us, 52 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.759 including myself, have been there. Jerry, welcome to the show. 53 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.159 It's great to have you on this special nightcap program. 54 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.639 All right, thank you, thank you, thanks for having me. 55 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:51.680 So twenty fifteen. I've got to ask you first what 56 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.879 had happened prior to that. You had had incredible success 57 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.800 in the music industry and it led you into the 58 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:06.560 adult entertainment business, and suddenly the fame was more fleeting 59 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:10.039 that you thought, and the rewards were not what you 60 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.240 hoped they would be. After living a little bit of 61 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.759 the high life, what what happens at that point, Was 62 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.360 there a signature moment, Jerry that you can tell us 63 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:22.439 without giving away the book for people. 64 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.680 No, there wasn't. There wasn't really a signature moment that 65 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:29.160 that happened. 66 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.480 It was really it was over time. 67 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.319 It just it was God was nudging me, and you'll 68 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:36.040 see it in the book where he was nudging me 69 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.480 and calling me, and I was just kind of just 70 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:43.040 rebelling against it, just not answering the call. I mean, 71 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:47.920 even so in twenty fifteen when it was was one 72 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.560 of those times when my life changed and I gave 73 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.759 my life to Christ. But then you know, as an 74 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.879 old scripture where they backslid and and I backslid even 75 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.279 a twenty even right even after that, I would like 76 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.439 to say that that was it, but it wasn't. And 77 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.839 I didn't get back into the music or the adult 78 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:09.759 but I just wasn't wasn't all the way right with God. 79 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.360 I was still living in sin and I was just 80 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.680 doing I wasn't doing that, but I was just doing 81 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:19.800 different things. I was consulting with other businesses. And then 82 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.000 it became about again in twenty twenty one, and in 83 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.079 twenty twenty one and Decembar twenty twenty one is where 84 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:30.480 I would I would say, really it was. It was solid. 85 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:34.040 From there on, my life has been nothing but living 86 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:38.319 for Christ since then, right, No more back and forth. 87 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:41.639 Boy, that parallels a lot of what I've been through 88 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.480 in my life, Jerry. So, I appreciate the fact and 89 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.920 God works on his own time. He doesn't work on hours. 90 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:52.040 And I know people that have had just I mean 91 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:59.600 instantaneous magical transformation, spiritual transformation in a moment and they 92 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:03.360 never look back. And then there are people like you 93 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.519 and like me who've been shown the truth and been 94 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.959 nudged by God and still weren't ready to answer the 95 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.959 call all the way. So yeah, I get that. Now 96 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:18.959 I've got to ask you though about your life prior. 97 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.160 What was it like being around people like Will Smith 98 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:25.839 and Snoop Dogg. I mean, it was probably great at 99 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.120 the time, right, it. 100 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:30.439 Was so so. 101 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:32.959 I was in the music industry during the nineties, and 102 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.040 so to me that was one of the greatest eras 103 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:36.680 of music, even though I do like the eighties and 104 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.959 seventies music. But anyway, you know, those are two different 105 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.040 people at two different at two different lifestyles, two different 106 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.120 times of life. Right when you're looking at it. Will 107 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.399 Smith back then he was more. And most of these 108 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.199 artists this is in the nineties is when they were 109 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.519 coming up, they were they weren't as big as they 110 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.480 are now. They were still dropping their first and second records, 111 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:04.000 and so Will was more. I would say, find a 112 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.160 conservative like Snoop was a little different. He was, he 113 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.240 was fine, but you know, Snoop was a guy. He 114 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.839 was he was smoking marijuana and I was smoking with me, 115 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:14.319 you know what I'm saying. So it was one of 116 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.680 those things where you know, it was a different, two 117 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:20.720 different types of relationships, but genuinely in terms of working 118 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.279 with them, uh, they were just they were good people 119 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:23.920 to work with. 120 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:24.399 Well. 121 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.360 As I recall the nineties, and I'm willing to confess 122 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:32.040 it now because most people know some of my story anyway, Uh, 123 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:36.759 the nineties was not only pot but also rife with cocaine, 124 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.120 and uh, well, I tell you what, that is a 125 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.920 nowhere drug, for sure, it is, sure it is. How 126 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:49.079 do you find faith and redemption in all of this culture? 127 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.279 I mean, how does that happen? Because I found it 128 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:56.360 in my own life, Jerry, that God just won't leave 129 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.920 me alone. I could tell really that God wants me. 130 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.199 So I'll tell you that's how you find it. That's 131 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:08.240 how you find it in any culture, and especially especially 132 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.600 in in the in the music industry and in the 133 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.720 adult industry, you know, because those are some dark industries, 134 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.480 and God has to call you. God has to pull 135 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.800 you out of those industries because you know, I'm grateful 136 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.120 that he didn't let me. Always say, he kept me 137 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:27.519 anchored right, so I didn't go so I didn't go 138 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.399 too far into the water, right, I didn't get too 139 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:35.159 deep into it. I mean I was in it, but mentally, 140 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.320 I said, he kept me with my right mind. He 141 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.759 kept me where. You know, there were situations where sometimes 142 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.279 I would be walking into a venue or a club 143 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.960 that was one way in and one way out, you know. 144 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.919 And it's situations where there was you know, there was 145 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.399 sometimes there was a shootout, there was I mean, there's 146 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.879 just different things. And I look back under seeing how 147 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.399 you know, God kind of had it. He just had 148 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.639 his hand over me. And and I'm grateful, and I 149 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.879 there's times I wish I had answered the call earlier, 150 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.840 not waited so late. But I am grateful that he 151 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.480 that he found redemption and I finally answered the call. 152 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:12.720 What's wild to me is how God saves you before 153 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.080 you're even saved. And I think that's kind of what 154 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:17.080 you're referring to. 155 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:18.799 Uh yeah, For. 156 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.360 Anybody listening who thinks that they're just too far gone 157 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:27.120 or they could never get to that point where they're 158 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.159 ready to turn their life over to Christ, the power 159 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:36.960 of second chances is immeasurably important for all of us. 160 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:42.080 Right, yes, yes, yes, yes, No one, no one. 161 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.720 No one's beyond the reach, is what I'm. 162 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.960 Saying, not at all. No one's beyond the reach as well, 163 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.600 as long as you're breathing now. Once you whatever, whatever 164 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:56.879 whatever state you're in when you die determines I mean, 165 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.440 where you're going to go. If you die without answering 166 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.000 the call, you will go to hell. And if you 167 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.639 answer the call before you die, you will go to heaven. 168 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.159 So you you have a choice, you know, and and 169 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.200 it's it's and God will call you, and he will 170 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:19.240 He will save you from whatever you're in, whatever you're 171 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.720 going through, whether it's whether it's pornography, whether it's you know, 172 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.240 being you've already sold your soul in in the in 173 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.440 the music industry. I mean, God, God can still call 174 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.200 you out of that. He can still bring you out 175 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:31.399 of that. 176 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:32.799 I have I have. 177 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.559 I'll tell you a quick story. I have a friend 178 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.759 that about three years ago. She she's a friend now, well, 179 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:44.279 I was trying to uh date her and we we 180 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.440 just we bumped heads because she was getting into like 181 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:53.000 crystals and tear of cards and and shaman and all 182 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:54.720 of that kind of stuff. And I was like, totally, 183 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.320 I'm God right, I'm like, I'm we don't do that. 184 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.480 So we bumped heads completely, right, And so we never 185 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:07.120 did date. And I'll tell you last week she reached 186 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:08.960 out to me and she was like, I know you 187 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.519 probably don't want to talk to me, but I've changed. 188 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.759 My life has changed. God has saved me. God has 189 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.919 called me here, redeemed me. And it was it was 190 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.120 so good to hear just that she got out of 191 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.320 all of that and she was so deep into it, 192 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.519 and she she talked about being delivered from demons and 193 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:28.759 having those things that she had opened the door. She 194 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.480 realized that she had opened the doors to those things 195 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.600 when she was doing the crystals and all that, all 196 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.879 that all that stuff that goes along with it, and 197 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.120 so it's just it's one of those things that's just. 198 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:38.519 Good to hear. 199 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.159 Right, it's good to see and it's good to see 200 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:43.039 that God redeemed her and she was I mean she 201 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.120 was in the mix with Satan. I mean, like I 202 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:46.480 mean we all are, but you know what I'm saying, 203 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.039 Like she was in the mix with Satan. 204 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.720 Yeah, she she wasn't just being led us Gray, she 205 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:53.799 was like volunteering. 206 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.399 Right right right right? 207 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:58.360 Yeah? 208 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.919 How do you how do you handle or how did 209 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.360 you handle pushback from people who didn't understand what had 210 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.360 happened in your life, your transformation? 211 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:09.200 What do you what do you mean? 212 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.120 Like you know, yes, in terms of. 213 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.639 How do I mean, how do you deal with people 214 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.240 who saw Jerry Dale, uh, three weeks ago and see 215 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.960 him now and go Jerry, what's going on? What's up? 216 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:27.320 It's just it's just that conversation of God, God saved me. 217 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:28.399 God God. 218 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:29.120 You know. 219 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:34.879 The thing is is most people are Christian by default, right, 220 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:40.240 So unless you're unless you're Muslim, Hindu, or you know, 221 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.679 claiming other religion, then you automatic you say you're Christian. 222 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:47.080 So then for someone to like me to become Christian 223 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.679 and back then, even if you had asked me, I 224 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.399 would have said I was a Christian, but I wasn't 225 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.440 living like a Christian. So I'm saying that to say 226 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.879 that there are people who already see that. So when 227 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:59.799 they see the real change in me, those that those that, 228 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.879 those that knew me back then, when they see the 229 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.600 real change in me, they they're genuinely happy for me. 230 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.559 I haven't had any anyone at least on the surface 231 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:11.759 or in my or you know, face to face or 232 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.120 on a call or anything like that, where you could 233 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.919 tell like they were not happy for me, because I think, 234 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.039 and I think some of that comes from everybody thinks 235 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.159 they're state or they think they're Christian, anyway they see 236 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:22.759 they're not. 237 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.039 But right, what what inspired you to turn this journey 238 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:26.759 into a book? 239 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.240 There was several things. One one was I didn't want to. 240 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.799 I was starting to forget some things and I didn't 241 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:36.879 want to do that. And then two, I think it 242 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:38.559 was just God to just put it on my heart 243 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.360 to be able to put it out there and put 244 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.720 my story. Because I lived when I was in those times, 245 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.919 I lived two different lives. 246 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:48.200 Right. 247 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.799 It was like I was JD when I was in 248 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.519 the in the entertainment stuff, and I was Jerry at 249 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.720 home because I would go. I still took my kids 250 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.399 to my wife and kids to church when I was married. 251 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.120 I was married twice. But when I was married, you know, 252 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.399 we still went to church. We still you know, I 253 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.480 still claim Jesus, I still claim to be a Christian. 254 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.399 But yet I was still out here justifying it and 255 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.679 I'm doing I'm in the adult business. I'm in that. 256 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:14.159 So it was one of those things where I was 257 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.799 so private on sore. It's people who knew me from 258 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:20.039 just the entertainment, and there's people who knew me from 259 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.039 just the church or christian or Christianity, and so it was. 260 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:25.960 It was one of those things where it's like I 261 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.200 felt like God was like, you know what, you need 262 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.399 to tell your story and you need to tell the redemption, 263 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.039 and you need to tell how I saved you from 264 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.759 this and let people know that way you can you 265 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.559 can lead people or guide someone so that they know 266 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.240 they're struggling with it, that they know that they're that 267 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:45.120 I can save them too. And it's just kind of 268 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.720 you know, it's just the waal I kept feeling. I 269 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.039 kept feeling it, and this was this was years. It 270 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.039 took me years to actually write the book, right. It 271 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:55.519 took me a year or two write it, but it 272 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:57.399 took me years to be like, Okay, let me go 273 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.240 ahead and do it well. 274 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:01.759 And in the book by the Way again a music 275 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:06.039 Born in Jesus, just one of the wildest titles I've 276 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:11.639 ever heard of, By the way, how has your understanding 277 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:16.000 of what successes and fulfillment changed? 278 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:16.919 What? 279 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.399 What do you consider being successful now? 280 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:19.840 Jerry? 281 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:28.120 Being able to do with being able to live and 282 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:32.720 do what God has calling me to do for me, 283 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.240 That's what success is. You know, before I was chasing 284 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:38.720 money and it's just kind of living, living in the world, 285 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.320 and you know, and all the things I had, I mean, 286 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.320 I've done a lot, had a lot, And then there 287 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.600 became a time when you start to realize that the 288 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.279 more money it just allows you to do the same 289 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:57.360 thing more times or get bigger. Right Like I got 290 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.960 a house, I'm good, but more money are allowed, I'll getting 291 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:02.480 the point of get in a bigger house. And I 292 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.519 didn't even stewart my money in a way to where 293 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.320 I was putting God first, right like I wasn't doing 294 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:08.559 things for the kingdom. 295 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:08.759 And spreading it. 296 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:14.399 Whereas now those things change and and God blesses me 297 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.360 even more as I put things and I put my 298 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:21.120 efforts towards the Kingdom versus at advancing the kingdom versus 299 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:25.000 just advancing my own my own priorities or my own 300 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.279 selfish ways. 301 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:30.600 What what advice could you give to somebody who feels 302 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.320 trapped in a lifestyle that they no longer want to live, 303 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:39.080 that they understand it's a nowhere road. And I mean, 304 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:44.200 what would Jerry Dale tell them? Anybody listening, you know, 305 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:44.840 I would. 306 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.440 I would just tell you to ask God to lead 307 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:54.440 you to someone that will walk alongside you and help 308 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.759 you come back to him, right, Because sometimes it's hard, 309 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.600 just it's hard for us to to just go from 310 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.279 that lifestyle that you're in that you don't want to 311 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.279 be into just going to God, you know, I mean, 312 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.240 God has to bring you out. But sometimes if you 313 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.480 could have somebody walk alongside you, because you know, even 314 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:14.440 with me, like I said in twenty fifteen, was one 315 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.960 was one of those times when I changed my life, 316 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:19.680 but then I fell back. But then when I when 317 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.640 I really truly had someone in there back that can 318 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.519 walk alongside me and be there with me and help 319 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:31.960 me and help me be consistent with it with my walk, right, 320 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:35.200 and so forth. I needed to be able to build 321 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:39.440 up a new and new what's the word I'm looking. 322 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.920 I mean, I need to build up a new routine, 323 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:43.960 I guess, so to speak, and be able to read 324 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.200 my Bible more builder and have community, have someone that 325 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:51.559 was real. You know, I think having someone real in 326 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:54.200 your life is always good. At having someone will who 327 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.079 will help you, who will challenge you, and who will 328 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.200 be there, and someone who will love you right just 329 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:03.880 genuinely just love you unconditionally as God loves you. 330 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:09.480 Yeah. That's that's absolutely, very very key and it's important. 331 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:12.119 And you mentioned reading your Bible. This is the thing 332 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:16.880 that people don't understand is that if you don't read 333 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:21.759 your Bible on a regular basis, uh, and you're not 334 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.799 you know, constantly in prayer, uh, you can get lost 335 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.599 pretty quick. Because I mean the Bible is was it 336 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:36.079 basic instruction before leaving Earth? Is it's been described. 337 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:38.880 Yeah, I've heard the same thing. 338 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:42.400 But you know that's you know, you're you're still right, 339 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.599 because that's what that's what that's why you need someone 340 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:47.400 in your life that can be consistent on the walk 341 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.160 with you because that right there, what you just said 342 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:53.960 is is I would say is the key to be 343 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:57.720 able to read your read descriptions and read your Bible consistently. 344 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:01.599 Because I noticed, and I look back, I noticed that 345 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:04.319 I would read my Bible a few days, and then 346 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.079 when I would go some days without reading it, some 347 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:12.279 days without prayer. It's like I've fallen off. I don't 348 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:16.240 even realize it until until things get to a situation. 349 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.599 Where, oh, now this happened. 350 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:20.880 Oh you know what. I haven't been praying, I haven't 351 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.680 been connected with God, I haven't been reading my Bible, 352 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.680 and so I've been making these decisions that aren't aren't 353 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.240 like I like I should like I should have made. 354 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.680 Yeah, are you still doing something with your music? 355 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.759 The only thing I do with music now, which is 356 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.799 for me, is I wron It's funny interesting because I 357 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.279 always thought I would be in the music industry, but 358 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.480 I'm not. But God does allow me to enjoy music. 359 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.960 But now I enjoy it by a ballroom dancing. 360 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:57.559 Huh. That's great. That's not an answer I expected. That's wonderful. Listen, Jerry, 361 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.039 I'm sorry we're running out of time tonight, but I 362 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:06.440 really appreciate yours and thank you and inspiring story. No 363 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.599 doubt for anybody who has questions or is it maybe 364 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:13.000 a turning point. The book is Music, Porn and Jesus. 365 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.599 The author is Jerry Dale and it's been my pleasure. 366 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.400 Sir, Thank you, thank you so much. 367 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:25.160 You bet very special fifth of July Nightcap continues in moments. 368 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.319 It is a special edition of the Nightcap here on 369 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:34.440 seven hundred WLW. I've found out about this organization that 370 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.519 we're featuring in this segment about a week and a half, 371 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.079 two weeks ago. And when I found out that they 372 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:45.599 weren't actually rolling out any information until the fourth of 373 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.559 July last night, I said, well, I've got a show 374 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.359 on July fifth. Let's that'd be the perfect thing. I 375 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.160 didn't let the cat or the dog out of the 376 00:20:54.200 --> 00:21:00.240 bag too early that way. This is VCASS and we 377 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.799 have the president and CEO of Vcast. He's based in Columbus. 378 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.279 His name is Josh Doran. On the line and in 379 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:12.960 studio Vickylessandra and Guy Volrath, who has been practicing his 380 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:19.240 sexy radio voice for this interview. He said, I'm nervous. 381 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.279 I said, don't be, and he just laughed. So Josh 382 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.599 Dorn first and foremost, welcome to seven outter WLW on 383 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:31.279 this Saturday night on fourth of July weekend, and if 384 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:34.319 you would please give me a description of how this 385 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:36.160 started and what VCAST is. 386 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:39.920 Yeah, absolutely, thank you for having us. 387 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:40.119 So. 388 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.880 VAST stands for Veteran Containing Animal Services and we're a 389 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.039 five to one C three organization and we actually started 390 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:53.799 back in twenty thirteen and I'm actually the current CEO, 391 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:58.319 not the founder, but the founder was a veterinarian by trade, 392 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.359 and she just followed the act that these dogs you know, 393 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.640 have on their owners and their lives and the ability 394 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:09.000 to you know, list spirits and just improve the mental 395 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.759 health of a lot of these owners. And she also 396 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:16.559 have a lot of family connection to the military, so 397 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.119 she decided to kind of put the two together into 398 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:24.480 a singular mission and then in twenty eighteen Decantmate its 399 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.599 first placement. It just increased rescue dog placements from there. 400 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:32.920 But to kind of give a full scope of the 401 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:39.119