Speaker 1: I see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. I got the
Speaker 4: cosmic peach at Julia with me today.
Speaker 5: What is going on? Julie? It is amazing to have
Speaker 5: you on again? What is up?
Speaker 6: Thanks?
Speaker 7: Nick?
Speaker 6: I'm really looking forward to this one. I'm hoping writer
Speaker 6: can blow my mind on some Virginia Gouffre and uh.
Speaker 6: I actually looked into this for this episode and I'm
Speaker 6: super excited about it. But yeah, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Of course, no, I figured you would really enjoy this,
Speaker 4: so I had to get you on and the Headless Giant.
Speaker 5: What is going on?
Speaker 1: By?
Speaker 8: How's it going? You can find me at the Headless
Speaker 8: Giant on Twitter and on YouTube. If you'd like, you
Speaker 8: can send me an email with your strange, magical mystical
Speaker 8: experiences at the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you very much, sir, and we got
Speaker 5: jj vance. What is going on? My man?
Speaker 1: Nick? Greeting sir as always appreciate the invite.
Speaker 2: Headless and Julia always enjoy conversations here with the Occult
Speaker 2: Rejects and writer. I'm I'm definitely good to see you
Speaker 2: again there, Bud, definitely stoked here and discuss this conversation.
Speaker 2: He gave me a little introduction last week on your
Speaker 2: podcast when I was over there, and highly recommend folks
Speaker 2: check that conversation out for some ancient alien cargo cult discussions.
Speaker 2: But I'm excited for some well, I guess it's as
Speaker 2: excited as you can be about a sex traffic victim
Speaker 2: who died on untimely death, you know, and seemingly never
Speaker 2: left the system. But I am excited about the conversation
Speaker 2: and let's you know, looking forward to here. Thank you
Speaker 2: very much, JJ Vance, a host of Operation GCD and
Speaker 2: notably again not the vice president.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: JJ.
Speaker 4: I always look forward to your input. I'm sure you'll
Speaker 4: have something to add. And finally, the guest himself. He's
Speaker 4: been on the show multiple times. We always enjoy having
Speaker 4: him on. Like I've told him before, just let me
Speaker 4: know when you have a topic, You're always welcome. So
Speaker 4: we got right a Lee, what is going on, sir?
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for joining us again.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 9: Nick?
Speaker 3: Good to see you guys. What's up? Headlist? What's up?
Speaker 3: Cosmic Pa and JJ Vans, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: This thing is a giant freaking rabbit hole, dude, And
Speaker 3: I've done eight shows on it so far on my
Speaker 3: on my podcast, on my YouTube channel, I have a
Speaker 3: playlist of all the shows that I've done on it.
Speaker 3: Just go to the channel, I hit playlist, and then
Speaker 3: you can listen to all of them. But I'm gonna
Speaker 3: try and give a really solid overview here for you guys,
Speaker 3: for everyone that hopefully can make sense of this whole thing,
Speaker 3: because I've broke it all down, like I've gotten to
Speaker 3: the I literally paid twenty five dollars to do a
Speaker 3: genealogy report from ancestry dot com just to figure all
Speaker 3: this shit out.
Speaker 5: So I did that. What we were doing?
Speaker 6: What's up? That's what's up?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 2: Was that a fruitful effort with that report? Was it
Speaker 2: an AI generated thing? I'm interested? What are we talking
Speaker 2: about here?
Speaker 3: No, it was a real thing. I needed to do
Speaker 3: the genealogy because there were so many different discrepancies between
Speaker 3: her brothers. Are they her brothers? Are they not her brothers?
Speaker 3: Are they her stepbrothers? Are there her half brothers? So
Speaker 3: then I went back and I looked into her mom,
Speaker 3: who her mom was married to before. And I found
Speaker 3: figured that out how where her brothers came from. And
Speaker 3: it turns out that one of her brothers is a
Speaker 3: half brother because it came from a previous marriage from
Speaker 3: her mom, Lynn Trude Cabell. She got married to a
Speaker 3: gentleman named Greg Wilson in nineteen seventy eight, and then
Speaker 3: they had a son in nineteen eighty, and then they
Speaker 3: got divorced a year later, well two years later, and
Speaker 3: then she married Virginia Giuffray's dad, Stet Roberts. Then they
Speaker 3: had Virginia a year later, and then four years later
Speaker 3: they moved to Florida, and then they had another child
Speaker 3: and they named him sky Rocket Roberts in Florida. So
Speaker 3: Virginia's the person that she's calling her brother is actually
Speaker 3: her stepbrother, which is Daniel Wilson, and then her See
Speaker 3: this is where the whole confusion comes in because some
Speaker 3: people referred to them as her stepbrothers. Like her Wikipedia page.
Speaker 3: If you were to pull up her Wikipedia page right here,
Speaker 3: actually I have it. It says Virginia Giffrey was born
Speaker 3: Virginia Luis robertson Sacramento on August say nineteen eighty three,
Speaker 3: the Sky Williams Roberts and Lynn True Cabbell. She had
Speaker 3: two step brothers, Sky and Daniel, but a lot of
Speaker 3: people just refer to them as her brothers. But several
Speaker 3: other news outlets report them as her stepbrother So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I gotta figure all this outside. I looked up all
Speaker 3: the days, looked at the birth certificates, found the old
Speaker 3: pictures of them together and everything. So we solved that.
Speaker 3: Solved that on the show. So Daniel Wilson, hold on,
Speaker 3: let me fill up a photo of.
Speaker 1: What did you say her maiden name was? Did you
Speaker 1: phrase mother's maiden name?
Speaker 3: Her main name is Kabell c A B E L L.
Speaker 2: Yes, like Charles Cabell, the former CIA director or his brother.
Speaker 1: Who was the mayor of Dallas in eleven three. That
Speaker 1: kind of a.
Speaker 3: Bell yeah, I think. So it's the same spelling. But
Speaker 3: this is this is Daniel Wilson, This is her half brother.
Speaker 3: It would be because they have the same mom. Okay,
Speaker 3: so it's not even her step brother. Neither one of
Speaker 3: them are her step brothers. And her other brother is
Speaker 3: Sky sky Rocket Roberts. And see if there's there's a
Speaker 3: photo of all three of them. Here they are. Here's
Speaker 3: Virginia in the middle. To the left, here is Skyrocket Roberts,
Speaker 3: which is her biological brother, and then to the right
Speaker 3: is her half brother, Daniel Wilson. He Daniel Wilson lives
Speaker 3: in Texas and sky Rocket Roberts lives in Colorado Springs,
Speaker 3: but they they lived in Florida for a long time.
Speaker 3: In Florida is where Skyrocket Roberts was born. Was in Florida,
Speaker 3: so he is Virginia's biological brother. Now what's really interesting
Speaker 3: is I pretty sure I'd have to go back and check,
Speaker 3: but I looked at all their Facebook pages. I actually
Speaker 3: brought up all their Facebook pages on my show because
Speaker 3: they're all public facebook pages. I'm really surprised they haven't
Speaker 3: made them all private. But yeah, from everything that I
Speaker 3: was looking into them.
Speaker 1: In for some reason, why would they leave that public.
Speaker 5: I'm actually surprised.
Speaker 8: I was just about to say that that that whole
Speaker 8: pos right there kind of looks staged. I mean a
Speaker 8: lot of this stuff seems planted.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I'm kind of shocked to learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of shocked learn their republic,
Speaker 2: right I mean that seems a bit shocking, right.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't remember which one it was. I'd have
Speaker 3: to look it up again, but one of them works
Speaker 3: for Tesla and another one works for the Blue Origin
Speaker 3: light crew from Jeff Bezos's.
Speaker 2: Did he get a chance to work with the old
Speaker 2: Lady space Flight? That was he on that mission?
Speaker 3: That's where That's where I think that it's Yeah, Daniel,
Speaker 3: it's either Daniel Wilson or sky Rocket Roberts. One of
Speaker 3: them worked for I don't have to not google it,
Speaker 3: but facebook it really quickly, but I think that it's
Speaker 3: one of them that works for currently works for Blue Origin,
Speaker 3: and the other one worked for Tesla. I formerly worked
Speaker 3: for Tesla. It might have been Daniel Wilson who lives
Speaker 3: in Texas, but yeah, one of them works for Blue
Speaker 3: Origin for Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought that that was like super interesting.
Speaker 3: As I was looking into all this stuff, I was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: both of her brothers supposedly work for these people that
Speaker 3: are have they're supposedly shooting things in the space.
Speaker 1: Space industrial complex companies are right.
Speaker 4: See at that point, I would I wouldn't believe. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't believe much of anything that is showing you visually.
Speaker 10: Yeah, this this is the thing.
Speaker 8: I think it's sort of like what Peter Thiel is
Speaker 8: good for. You know, he can have these cutouts put
Speaker 8: into any of these new tech businesses.
Speaker 2: Because we're talking NaSTA contractors. Really, we can call them
Speaker 2: Blue Riders and we can call them Tesla, but they're
Speaker 2: contractors of the of NASA.
Speaker 5: Right basically, in my opinion, that's what they are. They're
Speaker 5: being privatized Nay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, privatized NASA.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. At that point, I think it's all smoking mirrors.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, they they had their work stuff, but it's
Speaker 3: on one of the I think that it's on Virginia's
Speaker 3: Free Mendolo Fact Part seven where I show their Facebook
Speaker 3: profile and it says exactly where they work according to them,
Speaker 3: of course, but they've hidden hidden their work stuff. But
Speaker 3: Sky Roberts has like three different Facebook pages, so it
Speaker 3: could be on one of these. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask, because I'm new to learning
Speaker 6: about this woman. Where does her story like start, Like,
Speaker 6: how does she even.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna you're gonna love this, Julia, You're gonna
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just curious because I mean, I know that, Okay,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna steal riders thunder there. But no, it's
Speaker 2: this is she's got a very very interesting backstory.
Speaker 3: Okay. So it's Sky Roberts that worked for it looks
Speaker 3: like it was he was a former regional performance coach,
Speaker 3: were so that would have to be Daniel Wilson. So
Speaker 3: the guy on the right of Virginia works for Blue
Speaker 3: Original interesting, Okay. So essentially what happened was is after
Speaker 3: they moved to Florida, whenever Virginia was four, then they
Speaker 3: had sky Rocket Roberts. Here from the left, Virginia's dad
Speaker 3: Sky Roberts. Again, they're both named the exact same name.
Speaker 3: Virginia's dad is Williams Roberts, So you have Wilson Williams
Speaker 3: sky Sky there. They all share the exacty. And then
Speaker 3: there's another Jeffrey Epstein victim that also has a name
Speaker 3: a Sky that also supposedly killed themselves. So there's so
Speaker 3: many different everyone has very similar names in this entire thing.
Speaker 3: So whenever they moved to Florida, Virginia's dad was a
Speaker 3: maintenance man and he worked on maintenance properties in California.
Speaker 3: That was his profession in California when they lived here.
Speaker 3: Well here, I live in California, so I just said here.
Speaker 3: But when they moved to Florida, they he got a
Speaker 3: job at mar A Lago Virginia's dad as a maintenance man.
Speaker 3: Then he got Virginia a job at mar A Lago
Speaker 3: supposedly in like the Spa area or whatever, Okay, And
Speaker 3: that's where they met Jeffrey Epstein and Giselene Maxwell. And
Speaker 3: that's how she got into the to the whole fold.
Speaker 3: But she was trafficked before that by another famous sex
Speaker 3: trafficker in Florida that is currently in prison. I would
Speaker 3: have to find the article to find out his exact name,
Speaker 3: but he's in prison right now. So she was trafficked
Speaker 3: by him for a long time before she was even
Speaker 3: brought into the Epstein fold. And then she was also
Speaker 3: abused by a family member's friend, a friend of a
Speaker 3: family member, it's reported in these articles. So she was
Speaker 3: abused by a family member of a friend. Which that's
Speaker 3: what they look for, right. They want people that have
Speaker 3: had prior abuse, people that have been abused before to
Speaker 3: be a part of this whole thing, because they've already been,
Speaker 3: you know, essentially like you know, broken into exactly. Trauma
Speaker 3: is the key to like all this stuff.
Speaker 8: So I was gonna say this follows the pattern of
Speaker 8: trauma victim or SRA victim just to a t.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she's abused by a friend of a family member,
Speaker 3: family friend, then she's trafficked to this other big sex
Speaker 3: trafficker in Florida, and then she's taken to with Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3: She's going on all these flights her dad is talking
Speaker 3: about in one of the pures more in interviews. It's
Speaker 3: not the one that we have pulled up, but it's
Speaker 3: another one. And uh, He's like, I had no idea
Speaker 3: what was going on. I was just like letting her,
Speaker 3: which I don't know how much of that is true.
Speaker 3: It feels like that their entire family isn't on this
Speaker 3: whole thing that they know they have to.
Speaker 6: Know, right, like generational.
Speaker 2: For sure, because like logistically speaking, how would her father
Speaker 2: not know she's not away, she's away from the house
Speaker 2: and the club she works at because he works there too.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm.
Speaker 6: Curious about that too. But do you know about how
Speaker 6: old she was when the abuse, like first started like
Speaker 6: with the family member.
Speaker 5: I'm wondering about that.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a family member. It was a friend of
Speaker 3: a family member. And I don't believe it was an
Speaker 3: actual family member because that's a different kind of a
Speaker 3: different kind of thing. If it's an actual family member,
Speaker 3: it's not a Kathy O'Brien type of scenario where it
Speaker 3: was her that was doing it to her. But I
Speaker 3: would be guessing very young, so at least after the
Speaker 3: age of four. I would say somewhere after she was four,
Speaker 3: but it was specifically said the actual time frame. It
Speaker 3: might say it in her book that she wrote. I
Speaker 3: haven't read her book, but it might go into more
Speaker 3: detail in her book when it happened, but it I
Speaker 3: would say sometime after the age of four.
Speaker 6: And how old was she when she started working out
Speaker 6: mar A Lago.
Speaker 3: I think around fifteen or sixteen ikay, okay, because she
Speaker 3: was brought in with at seventeen, so well, no, I
Speaker 3: was actually before that. So she worked for Epstein for
Speaker 3: ten years and then she got out of that whole
Speaker 3: thing in two thousand and one. Whenever she met her
Speaker 3: husband in Thailand, whenever Epstein sent her there to go
Speaker 3: to massage school, So that's how she met her husband.
Speaker 3: So she had already been in with Epstein for ten
Speaker 3: years prior to her getting away from them, so that
Speaker 3: would have been what ninety one, So she would have
Speaker 3: had to start as she was born in when did
Speaker 3: they say here? She was born in eighty three, so
Speaker 3: she would have been what nine, yeah, nine years agone?
Speaker 3: What's eighty three minus ninety one?
Speaker 1: That's nine? But I think I think you were you're
Speaker 1: on track there before.
Speaker 2: I think it was fourteen when they first she first
Speaker 2: started working in you know, the lady's locker room there
Speaker 2: and Mettle lady Glaine, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how glam met her, and then Glene
Speaker 3: introduced her to Jeffrey Epstein, and then I think that
Speaker 3: what happened. I don't have any proof of this, but
Speaker 3: I think that they did something like Epstein was paying
Speaker 3: off her dad or something like that, Like it had
Speaker 3: to be some some version of that. And then she
Speaker 3: meets her husband in Thailand in two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: they get married eleven days later, and then she completely
Speaker 3: cuts off contact with Epstein and.
Speaker 2: J Justlene, I mean, when you're implying that her Epstein
Speaker 2: may have been paying off her father. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: that seems, you know, obviously reasonable, but even more reasonable
Speaker 2: when you consider they clearly knew each other, Epstein and
Speaker 2: her father, they clearly had interacted there at the club
Speaker 2: in some regard, you know, released we're aware of each
Speaker 2: other in that regard.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it was two thousand and two, so she
Speaker 3: would have been okay, I mean, she wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: him when she met him, but it was two thousand
Speaker 3: and two, not two thousand and one. My bad. I
Speaker 3: guess some of these it's hard to remember a lot
Speaker 3: of the shit. So Virginia met her husband over two
Speaker 3: decades ago. They reported the first cross paths while at
Speaker 3: massage school in Thailand in two thousand and two. But
Speaker 3: they don't say in this article that Jeffrey Epstein was
Speaker 3: the one that sent her to Thailand to the massage school.
Speaker 3: It says in one of these other articles. But we
Speaker 3: don't really know anything about more about her husband other
Speaker 3: than he was in a martial arts instructor and was
Speaker 3: supposedly teaching martial arts at this massage school in Thailand,
Speaker 3: and yeah, whatever an Australian martial artist is doing in
Speaker 3: Thailand teaching martial arts at a massage school is pretty
Speaker 3: weird to me. But then that's whenever they met, and
Speaker 3: they then married eleven news later and uh in Thailand,
Speaker 3: and then they moved to the United States for a
Speaker 3: little bit, and then I believe in around twenty twenty
Speaker 3: they then moved to Australia permanently.
Speaker 5: It sounds very weird.
Speaker 8: Is it possible they're using this whole, this whole Epstein
Speaker 8: thing as a way of menacing the people on the
Speaker 8: client list, like that's why they're not going after anybody else.
Speaker 2: It's a good question, handlest because they did publish five
Speaker 2: other recruiters' names on the front page.
Speaker 1: But I believe the Miami.
Speaker 2: Herald, you know, circa seven or eight years ago, so
Speaker 2: you know she was obviously a victim, but also later
Speaker 2: a recruiter. I'm just saying, we don't ever hear about
Speaker 2: these other recruiters, now, do we.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, there's a really interesting video that I did
Speaker 3: yesterday with David Oates where he does like reverse speech.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you guys know about reverse speech,
Speaker 3: but it's essentially where whatever you say forwards, like and
Speaker 3: you play it backwards and you remember the I think
Speaker 3: it was Leonard skinnerd highway to not highway to Heaven
Speaker 3: but stairway to heaven or whatever you play back worshiped
Speaker 3: the double worship shate not the same type of technology
Speaker 3: that he uses in the whole thing about it is,
Speaker 3: if you play something in reverse whenever someone says it,
Speaker 3: it reveals whether they're like telling the truth, because it'll
Speaker 3: confirm what they said forwards, right right, And uh, there's
Speaker 3: a few that I'm gonna play here a little bit later,
Speaker 3: the ones he'd done on Prince Andrew and Virginia's dad
Speaker 3: and Virginia. But on all accounts, it seems like Virginia
Speaker 3: is telling the truth, Prince Andrew is lying through his
Speaker 3: freaking face. Virginia's dad is also telling the truth. But
Speaker 3: it's just it's really interesting. But there was another gentleman
Speaker 3: that he did on Prince Andrew. I forget what the
Speaker 3: guy's name was, but it was.
Speaker 9: Let me.
Speaker 3: Look at this really quickly, but he found another person's
Speaker 3: name that came up in the reverse of Prince Andrew
Speaker 3: that let me see what is it? Greg? Greg came
Speaker 3: up and Prince Andrews basically says that he now goes
Speaker 3: to Greg for sex. Right, So in the reverse speech,
Speaker 3: so they're basically implying that there's way more Epstein like
Speaker 3: figures out there running around. It's not just Epstein. This
Speaker 3: is like a whole giant thing that's continuing to go on.
Speaker 3: And it was just like, well, Epstein got console, we
Speaker 3: went to throw Epstein under the bus, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: make it seem like that this isn't going on anymore,
Speaker 3: and it's done with him. It's the same with you know,
Speaker 3: Diddy and the music industry. All well, we got the
Speaker 3: music industry guy. Now they all cleared up in the
Speaker 3: music industry. And then we had Harvey Weinstein, which was
Speaker 3: in the film industry, has cleaned up out of the
Speaker 3: film industry. It's no longer in the film industry.
Speaker 2: Bullshit, don't forget old R Kelly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and R Kelly yeah, good one. That's a double.
Speaker 3: That's a double for the music industry.
Speaker 1: That's a that was a dark. That was a dark,
Speaker 1: that was so dark.
Speaker 2: When he after he got charged for the for the
Speaker 2: deadline up there in his initial charges, because it was
Speaker 2: more they did, started shipping him around to different courts,
Speaker 2: the you know, the federal District court in Georgia after
Speaker 2: Chicago than than New York. So the first one in
Speaker 2: Chicago after his first charge is some lady who owned
Speaker 2: a daycare bailed him out of preaty, out of jail
Speaker 2: on his charges. She posted bond form like one hundred k,
Speaker 2: and then they went to that rock and roll McDonald's,
Speaker 2: which was one of the McDonald's that was listed as
Speaker 2: one of the places he would go diddle kids at.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, this dude is out of his out
Speaker 2: of his fucking mind. He's just post bond by some
Speaker 2: lady who owns a daycare and then goes right into
Speaker 2: you know, one of the places listed in the in
Speaker 2: the court documents as far as the places where he
Speaker 2: stalks his victims, I'm like, this dude's out of his mind.
Speaker 2: That dude, That's what I'm saying. That's a very dark subject.
Speaker 2: I think that that guy swept under the rug Epstein
Speaker 2: style as well.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, he also had like just women locked up
Speaker 3: in his house, Like, yeah, had women lock more women
Speaker 3: just locked up in his house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did Epstein there right with the Maria Farmer
Speaker 2: and her sister. And that's probably you know, one an
Speaker 2: example of it. But That's the.
Speaker 3: Thing that was Like, it seems like R Kelly was
Speaker 3: more like for himself. And I think the Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 3: was for himself and for other people, so he was
Speaker 3: trying to other people. But R Kelly was just he
Speaker 3: like wanted all of them to himself, like it was
Speaker 3: just all for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to piss on every one of them
Speaker 1: ladies and not let anyone else do it.
Speaker 11: Oh did you see did you see the R Kelly
Speaker 11: video from uh from when he went to Africa and
Speaker 11: he's he's saying, everybody, get on the planes, will take
Speaker 11: care of you.
Speaker 8: And he's singing this to the women as he's got
Speaker 8: this line of African women that he's just funneling into
Speaker 8: his back road. It's insane.
Speaker 1: Where did they go? Right? That's dark? Yeah.
Speaker 6: I do have a question about Virginia. So after so
Speaker 6: at what point does she start like blowing the lid
Speaker 6: off a ship? Like was it after she met her
Speaker 6: husband or like a little bit before that, or and
Speaker 6: when did she start being like this happened to.
Speaker 3: Me it was two thy and fifteen. Whenever she initially
Speaker 3: started coming out and whenever she did, people like kind
Speaker 3: of didn't necessarily believe. I mean, there's that whole what
Speaker 3: is her name, Kelly roboch or whatever for NBC that
Speaker 3: had the entire story on her, that basically had her
Speaker 3: come out of the woodwork and like expose this entire thing.
Speaker 3: And then they made her pass on the entire story
Speaker 3: and then she was on a hot mic on Project Veritas.
Speaker 3: Project Veritas got a hold of the video. Actually I
Speaker 3: might have the video here somewhere here.
Speaker 1: But she's a lady, right, she worked. Well.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because abc'son by Disney and Epstein was in
Speaker 2: deep with that former senator from Maine who was at
Speaker 2: the chairman of the board for Disney, was one of
Speaker 2: the characters there in his book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she basically had the entire story. And I
Speaker 3: think this is it right here. This is the one
Speaker 3: here Nick where she goes into detail about that story.
Speaker 6: For three years of.
Speaker 3: Amy Robot, sorry not Kelly Robart, Amy Robart.
Speaker 9: With Virginia Roberts, we would not put it on the air.
Speaker 12: First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein, No
Speaker 12: one knows who that is.
Speaker 1: This is the stupid story.
Speaker 10: Then the Palace found out that we had her whole
Speaker 10: allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a.
Speaker 6: Million different ways. We were so afraid we.
Speaker 10: Wouldn't be able to interview Kate as Will that we
Speaker 10: d also quashed the story. And then and then Alan
Speaker 10: Dershowitz was also implicated it because of the planes.
Speaker 12: She told me everything, she had, pictures, she had everything.
Speaker 12: She wasn't hiding for twelve years. We convinced her to
Speaker 12: come out. We convinced her to talk to us. It
Speaker 12: was unbelievable what we had Clinton, We had everything. I
Speaker 12: tried for three years to get it on.
Speaker 9: To no avail, and now it's all coming out and
Speaker 9: it's like these new relevve revelations and I freaking had
Speaker 9: all of it. I was so pissed right now, Like
Speaker 9: every day I get more and more pissed because I'm
Speaker 9: just like, oh my god, it was what we had
Speaker 9: was unreal.
Speaker 6: Other women backing it up.
Speaker 9: Hey yep Brad Edwards, the attorney three years ago, saying like,
Speaker 9: like we there will come a day when we will
Speaker 9: realize Jeffrey Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country
Speaker 9: has ever known.
Speaker 3: I had it all three years ago. And then she
Speaker 3: was fired immediately after.
Speaker 6: They came out, but it's all true.
Speaker 1: Yep, what day was actually got fired on.
Speaker 3: They squashed it because they just like she explained, they
Speaker 3: used the excuse that they didn't no one knows who
Speaker 3: Jeffer Epstein is, so we can't do this story. No
Speaker 3: one knows anything about it. And then three years later
Speaker 3: it all comes out, and then he gets back on trial,
Speaker 3: and then he's in prison, and then he kills himself
Speaker 3: and then the whole thing blows up, and then she's
Speaker 3: pissed because they had the story three years prior to
Speaker 3: all that happening, and then they captured on the Well,
Speaker 3: we had Clinton, we had like all these people. She's
Speaker 3: got photos, she's got proof, which is another reason to
Speaker 3: essentially take her out. Right, if you don't want your
Speaker 3: person saying anything else, don't want anybody else implicated in
Speaker 3: this entire thing, right I.
Speaker 2: And again, if you look at the power structure, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Well, what if the reason that they're not releasing these
Speaker 8: files now and they're not talking about it anymore and
Speaker 8: they're just completely letting it go is that is because
Speaker 8: they've got like five or six other operations going simultaneously
Speaker 8: and they don't want have to stop those other operations
Speaker 8: because they're currently doing it, you know, doing a cover
Speaker 8: up here.
Speaker 2: It's a domino effect, right, so you got to clean
Speaker 2: up a hope, You got to get a cleanup crew
Speaker 2: on Aisle six, you know, clean up a bunch of
Speaker 2: fuck ups, and then they fuck up the fuck ups,
Speaker 2: and then it's just a downhill trend of fucking up.
Speaker 2: I would I would argue a lot of parapolitical things
Speaker 2: that we that we know about publicly are really just
Speaker 2: a result of trying to cover up that whole thing,
Speaker 2: the whole bay of pigs thing is tricky, Dick said
Speaker 2: in the Watergate tapes.
Speaker 6: But didn't Virginia have pictures with like Trump and Prince Andrew?
Speaker 6: And then like there was another like a bunch of
Speaker 6: other people who came out and said that they were
Speaker 6: at the Epstein thing, and it was almost like Trump
Speaker 6: had gotten to them first and they verified everything else,
Speaker 6: but that he was there. Like Virginia was the only
Speaker 6: one that was like, no, dude, he was definitely all
Speaker 6: up in that bitch, And all the other witnesses were like, no,
Speaker 6: he wasn't. We never saw him there. But I want
Speaker 6: to say, Virginia, I had I think pictures of him
Speaker 6: on the plane and stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm not aware of those, but it would make sense
Speaker 3: that if she would have photo because she worked in
Speaker 3: mar A Lago, so she would definitely have photos with
Speaker 3: Trump mar Alago Dad. So but I'm I don't have
Speaker 3: to look into that more to see if like there's
Speaker 3: because I don't think that he Trump was ever on
Speaker 3: the I don't think that he was on the client
Speaker 3: list at all from what we know. Unless I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to defend him, I just don't believe that he
Speaker 3: was never on.
Speaker 1: You're right, I've looked long and hard down that writer.
Speaker 1: You are correct sir, Well.
Speaker 8: There, I don't think there's any coincidence that after he
Speaker 8: gets elected that's when they decide to bump her off.
Speaker 8: I think that's pretty obvious was going on.
Speaker 1: Well is that what?
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up that point. So what what
Speaker 2: date did Amy Warbock get fire? Because I think these
Speaker 2: dates are important chronologically speaking, and and there's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff going on with Virginia Goufray and old Alan
Speaker 2: Dershowitz and David Boys who was the Clinton you know,
Speaker 2: black bag man who represented their nose. If you know
Speaker 2: that you know, fake blood company lady, and that was
Speaker 2: just a big that was just a big.
Speaker 1: Money laundering operation. That was a nine billion dollar money laundering.
Speaker 2: Operation or whatever it was. So that's all. That's all
Speaker 2: kind of first really connected but to David boys.
Speaker 1: But these are all happening really.
Speaker 2: I'm in twenty nineteen right, A lot of these things
Speaker 2: are popping off.
Speaker 3: But Virginia into twenty and eighteen, I think is when
Speaker 3: she got fired, fired early two nineteen.
Speaker 2: Because Virginia ju ye, so twenty I think it's twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen is very important with these matters because Virginia Giupfray
Speaker 2: sues Alan Dershowitzer was a vice versa Dershwitz.
Speaker 3: SU's Guphray no gifphrase sues Alan Dershowitz, and then she
Speaker 3: later drops the drops the charges, which I think the
Speaker 3: reason that she dropped the charges is because Prince Andrew
Speaker 3: paid out the money, he's settled out of court. And
Speaker 3: then she's like, okay, well he's he's given me upwards
Speaker 3: of twelve million dollars. I'm just going to drop all
Speaker 3: these other ones like this is good enough for me,
Speaker 3: This is good enough reparations for me. But some people
Speaker 3: think that by her dropping the charges against Alan Dershowitz,
Speaker 3: that that is her admitting that she's a liar and
Speaker 3: that she made it up. That's what Lady Veronica.
Speaker 1: Her, right.
Speaker 3: I mean he's a liar, and that's means that she
Speaker 3: was making up all the allegations against Alan Desowitz because.
Speaker 6: She settled out of court or because well.
Speaker 3: Because oh man, undisclosed amount of money from Prince Andrew
Speaker 3: out of court. Prince Andrew.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your your whole thing went like robot for like
Speaker 4: at the last pretty much the who last minute. So
Speaker 4: I have to make you like kind of repeat all
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry to make you. I just didn't. It was
Speaker 6: all like glitched out for a second. Yeah, catch the
Speaker 6: front front, get us.
Speaker 5: Like you find out. It's just like really bad. For
Speaker 5: a split second, it was like a minute. Yeah, alright, sorry.
Speaker 3: What was the last thing that she heard?
Speaker 5: I guess just answer her question again.
Speaker 6: The only part that I heard is she got an
Speaker 6: undisclosed amount of money from Prince Andrew. The rest was
Speaker 6: kind of like glitched out.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that was my personal opinion is the and
Speaker 3: that she dropped the charges was because she was already
Speaker 3: getting that money from Prince Andrew. There's nothing verifying that.
Speaker 3: I don't have any evidence supporting that. But people say
Speaker 3: that the reason that she dropped the charges is because
Speaker 3: she was making it up and because she was lying
Speaker 3: about Alan Dershowitz. So she dropped the charges against Alan Dershowitz,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, because she was settled out of court
Speaker 3: with Prince Andrew, and Prince Andrew was giving her upwards
Speaker 3: of twelve million dollars, so she okay, let's drop all
Speaker 3: this other stuff that I'm doing. This is good enough
Speaker 3: reparations for me. But people have taken that and saying, oh, well,
Speaker 3: that makes her a liar because she didn't go through
Speaker 3: with the charges against Alan Dershowitz.
Speaker 2: Well, if I had a point on that, just you
Speaker 2: know American jurisprudence was. It was one of the most
Speaker 2: bizarre cases and settlements I've ever seen. In the civil case,
Speaker 2: they were able to seal criminal evidence, evidence that can
Speaker 2: be shielded by any future criminal proceedings. I don't remember
Speaker 2: the exact verbiage, but it was it was bizarre. And again,
Speaker 2: it was a deal made by Dershowitz and David Boys,
Speaker 2: And why she would hire David Boys is beyond me.
Speaker 2: And that's when you say she never left this networking
Speaker 2: system and she was a victim all her life. I
Speaker 2: believe it because again I don't know anyone in their
Speaker 2: right mind who would hire David Boys in that situation
Speaker 2: unless it was.
Speaker 1: A black bag operation.
Speaker 2: And again, when we're talking about all these dates, I
Speaker 2: just want one more point, Julia, I might just make
Speaker 2: before we get past that ABC situation. It was the
Speaker 2: chairman of the board for Disney, Uh, George Mitchell, former
Speaker 2: US sender from Maine, who you know, was named in
Speaker 2: unsealed documents in the in in that in that jew
Speaker 2: Frey case. I believe it was a day before Epstein died.
Speaker 2: So you know, when we're talking about ABC and why
Speaker 2: they didn't run stuff, you know, a powerful chairman of
Speaker 2: the board who's still alive today, former US sender you know,
Speaker 2: was was named in that book and again unsealed in
Speaker 2: documents the day before Epstein did not.
Speaker 1: Kill him, So it is probably still alive, but.
Speaker 3: Very likely.
Speaker 6: I think he's still alive. But I was just gonna say,
Speaker 6: if I'm being honest with you, I don't think it's
Speaker 6: fair that she, like anyone, would say, well, she must
Speaker 6: be lying. She must not be telling it the truth
Speaker 6: about it because she accepted like X million. I mean,
Speaker 6: I would like, how are you gonna fucking sit here?
Speaker 6: And like, oh, she took twelve million dollars, so she
Speaker 6: must be lying about the whole thing. If somebody showed
Speaker 6: up to my door tomorrow with twelve mil, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know what I think. I'm I think I'll ride
Speaker 6: on this, you know, like honestly, Like it doesn't mean
Speaker 6: that she's lying. I mean, I don't know. Twelve million
Speaker 6: can get t see life differently, you know.
Speaker 3: Also it could be something to do with the deal
Speaker 3: as well, like okay, you know, Prince Andrew is going
Speaker 3: to pay you out an x amount of money, but
Speaker 3: you also have to drop any of the other cases
Speaker 3: that you have against anybody else. We don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the types of deals that the back room court
Speaker 3: deals that kind of go on. It's like, well, well
Speaker 3: we'll guarantee you this thing, then you got to do this, this, this,
Speaker 3: and this right. It's essentially like a plea deal, but
Speaker 3: she's not really pleaning because she's the one that's suing
Speaker 3: these people. So we don't really know the thing because
Speaker 3: a lot of it's all been it's all been sealed,
Speaker 3: just like JJ was talking about, it's all all the
Speaker 3: incriminating evidence has all been sealed. We don't really know
Speaker 3: what was going on in the courtroom. I mean, we
Speaker 3: didn't really know what was going on in the Giselene
Speaker 3: Maxwell trial. That that whole thing was completely killed. There
Speaker 3: wasn't any reporters that was really allowed in there. There
Speaker 3: was There wasn't any photographs taken. It was all sketches,
Speaker 3: Like all they could do was have a freaking artist
Speaker 3: in there sketching what she looked like, Like, what's going
Speaker 3: on here?
Speaker 2: I'm not an artist. The sketchiest sketch artist there in
Speaker 2: the study district in New York. Did you see Sam
Speaker 2: Bankman Freed's drawings. They made him looked like some sort
Speaker 2: of like model or something, and they made his girl
Speaker 2: fromd look way more like a troll than she looks like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a video here of Virginia talking about how
Speaker 3: Justlyne is even more powerful than Epstein is.
Speaker 13: She has videos, she has knowledge of videos that exist
Speaker 13: about people, people like who people.
Speaker 3: Well known names, very well known names.
Speaker 4: You know, the government officials, the politicians.
Speaker 6: The royalty, lately. Yeah, they were taping everybody, every moment.
Speaker 3: When you walked into the New York mansion to Palm Beach,
Speaker 3: everything was being filmed.
Speaker 6: Do you think people knew they were being taped? No?
Speaker 3: No, I do not not at all. Giuffrey alleges Maxwell
Speaker 3: and Epstein were blackmailing the wealth and the power. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's her saying that the whole thing is like that,
Speaker 3: Jaselen is even more powerful because she has access to
Speaker 3: all these tapes as well, like after Epstein is supposedly dead,
Speaker 3: So then they're just blind out that entire trial. They're like,
Speaker 3: no one is We're going to see all this stuff.
Speaker 3: We can't really know what was said in here. But
Speaker 3: one of my friends from the Rundown Live podcast was
Speaker 3: actually there and then got all the transcripts. So I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for him to send me all of the Justlene
Speaker 3: Maxwell transcripts and then I'm going to go over it
Speaker 3: on my show.
Speaker 6: That would be amazing. But so was Virginia the first
Speaker 6: one to say like that Prince Andrew is all up
Speaker 6: in the Epstein stuff and like she was getting it.
Speaker 6: Was she like the first one to say that, yes
Speaker 6: she was, But for.
Speaker 3: One to come out again and against Prince Andrew.
Speaker 6: Yes, and she said like he was a sweaty, disgusting,
Speaker 6: like gross motherfucker. And then like they interviewed him and
Speaker 6: he was like, actually I can't sweat at all. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's profusely sweating.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then Alan Derschwitz did an interview I
Speaker 2: think it was with British UK sixty minutes doing cover
Speaker 2: on all this stuff, trying to say Prince Andrew was
Speaker 2: not a deadler. And in the background of that, in
Speaker 2: his a heart you know at Boston penthouse apartment there
Speaker 2: near Harvard, there's what's has on the couch in the
Speaker 2: background the entire interview, an old lady sex doll.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he showed the picture before. He has showed the
Speaker 5: picture before. It's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go, I'll bring it up. And in an
Speaker 2: interview he's trying to convince folks. Yeah, oh yeah, Nick
Speaker 2: seen you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Nick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the creepiest thing ever, like you doing, dude,
Speaker 2: You're trying to convince folks that he's not a deadler
Speaker 2: and Epstein's a good guy and you're not a creepster.
Speaker 1: And you got an old lady sex doll in the background.
Speaker 5: It is bizarre. It's like sitting there right on the
Speaker 5: couch and it's just sad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, cheriatric sex dolly.
Speaker 5: I can't remember just it's obviously.
Speaker 2: It's just super creepy, super greevy.
Speaker 3: It looks like you guys, hold on, are you guys
Speaker 3: ready to have your freaking mind blown by this video
Speaker 3: that David Oates did yesterday on Virginia Your fight well
Speaker 3: on Prince Andrew on the reverse speech. This is freaking insane.
Speaker 3: Listen to this bad boy. This is from the BBC
Speaker 3: interview that we're talking about with when whenever he came
Speaker 3: out and gave that big BBC interview that basically exposed
Speaker 3: him and made everyone be like, what the fuck is
Speaker 3: going on with you? You're lying sack of ship. But
Speaker 3: I haven't released this yet on my channel, so you
Speaker 3: guys are getting me uh an exclusive, You're getting an exclusive.
Speaker 3: But the full video is out. The full videos was yesterday.
Speaker 3: It's Virginia Giffrey reverse speech. But this is just a
Speaker 3: clip from the long format interview.
Speaker 5: Pull up.
Speaker 3: A royal family.
Speaker 7: Yes, I got lots on them. This is Prince Andrew
Speaker 7: on his famous VBC interview being asked about the photo.
Speaker 14: Okay, nobody can prove whether or not that that photograph
Speaker 14: has been adopted, but I don't recollect that photograph ever
Speaker 14: been tick.
Speaker 7: Jeff had to get murdered.
Speaker 1: Murder Jeff, I see has a lips or matchup on that.
Speaker 1: You know, that's pretty weird. It tells me two things.
Speaker 7: A Prince Andrew was aware that Jeffrey eccene was murdered,
Speaker 7: not suicidal. Be It's almost like an order. This must happen.
Speaker 7: Jeff had to get murdered. So in my mind, this
Speaker 7: reversal is Andrew confessing to knowing Jeff. Everything was burdened
Speaker 7: and he may have been the person who gave the order.
Speaker 3: What isn't that crazy?
Speaker 6: That's wild? So you so, okay, right, so you think
Speaker 6: that Jeff is.
Speaker 3: Dead, then well, I mean, according to this reversal, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you believe it, right, if you believe in reverse speech,
Speaker 3: I mean, and it seems to be pretty solid because
Speaker 3: I had had David Oats on a few times in
Speaker 3: the past, but he never showed the video, right, it
Speaker 3: was all just audio, and I didn't know that there
Speaker 3: were video of doing these reverse speech things too. And
Speaker 3: then he just randomly throws up a video yesterday on
Speaker 3: my show, and I'm like, holy shit, this is like
Speaker 3: very because the mouth moves with the words that's being said.
Speaker 3: And whenever I drop that in the AI because I
Speaker 3: make all of my clips and I have to do
Speaker 3: the AI captions, right, the AI captions did not mess
Speaker 3: up any of the words that was in there. It
Speaker 3: didn't any of the words just said Jeff had to
Speaker 3: get murdered.
Speaker 8: Wow, that is so fucked up.
Speaker 6: That is Yeah, that is like really fascinating to me.
Speaker 6: So what are we looking at here? Geriatric sex doll?
Speaker 2: See that's Alan dur Durschwit's old ady sex doll that
Speaker 2: he had on.
Speaker 6: The s He had this in the back of an interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is his living room and I obviously
Speaker 2: cut you know, this is a crap today. I gotta
Speaker 2: find the original image I made of this screenshot. But
Speaker 2: this was the interview and he's sitting at his table.
Speaker 2: He's done a lot number of interviews at the same
Speaker 2: table and is kind of downing your marry there to
Speaker 2: this penthouse apartment he's got in Boston or in Cambridge area.
Speaker 1: There your Harvard, But yeah, this is in the back.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you cannot explain this and make it make
Speaker 6: sense in any other way that that's what it is,
Speaker 6: like if you asked him, it's.
Speaker 1: Like I mean to tell mentions.
Speaker 2: Our nation's most esteemed constitutional scholar has an old lady
Speaker 2: sex dollar in the background of an interview where he's
Speaker 2: trying to Prince Andrew is not a creep.
Speaker 1: Sure you gotta be kidding JJ.
Speaker 6: What would be his possible explanation for having this. He
Speaker 6: goes over to it and plays fucking patty cake, Like what.
Speaker 1: This is? This is It's not a sex doll. It's
Speaker 1: a tea time doll. They have tea time to go.
Speaker 6: Come on on, these guys are super creeps. These guys
Speaker 6: are disgusting.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I don't don't only got a massage with his shirt on,
Speaker 2: and it was by an adults.
Speaker 1: It only happened one time his wife was there.
Speaker 6: This is what interests me about Virginia because I feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, I've seen some pictures of her with like
Speaker 6: ruises all over her face and stuff, and it's like
Speaker 6: she wasn't necessarily at a hospital, So it's like what
Speaker 6: happened to her? And like I don't want to jump
Speaker 6: the gun or anything righter. But I mean she is
Speaker 6: now deceased, right, we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna get into that. That is a whole rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: They're uh, really, yeah, that's a whole thing because Okay,
Speaker 3: so she was involved in a supposedly in a bus accident, right.
Speaker 3: And this is what actually got me looking into the
Speaker 3: case from the very beginning, was because I was under
Speaker 3: the impression that she had died in the bus accident.
Speaker 3: Several people had reached out to me and was like, oh,
Speaker 3: did you see the Virginia Giffrey died in a bus accident.
Speaker 3: The bus was going like eighty miles an hour a
Speaker 3: hitter and then she died. And I didn't think anything
Speaker 3: of it. I'm like, Okay, maybe that's just, you know,
Speaker 3: a coincidence, right, I mean, people get into accidents all
Speaker 3: the time. Things just happened. Maybe she just happened to be,
Speaker 3: you know, this person that's accusing Prince Andrew, and Prince
Speaker 3: Andrew settled out of court with her, and then she
Speaker 3: just happened to die in this bus accident. I didn't
Speaker 3: even look into it. And then on the twenty fifth
Speaker 3: of last month, it came out that she had committed suicide.
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, what is going on here? This is
Speaker 3: really strange because I thought that she died, and I
Speaker 3: remember people literally tagging me in things seeing that she died,
Speaker 3: and several people had sent me emails and personal messages
Speaker 3: saying that Virginia Giffrey had died. And I still have
Speaker 3: all the messages that Virginia had died in the bus accident.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what's going on here? So then whenever
Speaker 3: I go back, That's why I titled the series of
Speaker 3: my show Virginia Giffrey Mendela Effect. And so then I
Speaker 3: go back and I started researching and looking into this
Speaker 3: bus accident, okay, because something wasn't adding up with me.
Speaker 3: You know, how does she be involved in this bus accident?
Speaker 3: And then she comes out like looking like she had
Speaker 3: just been beating the shit out of like her right
Speaker 3: temple is like all beat up. She leaves this message
Speaker 3: this year has been the worst start to the new year.
Speaker 3: But I won't bore anyone with the details. I think
Speaker 3: it's important to note that when a school bus driver
Speaker 3: comes at you driving roughly sixty miles per hour as
Speaker 3: we're slowing the turn, and doesn't matter what your car
Speaker 3: is made out of. It's basically a tin can. I've
Speaker 3: gone in the kidney renal failure. They've given me four
Speaker 3: days to live, transferring me to a specialist hospital in urology.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go, just not until I see my
Speaker 3: babies one last time. But you know what they say.
Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, well, how does this happened?
Speaker 3: Then I started looking into the bus accident, okay, And
Speaker 3: there's a lot of discrepancies with the bus accident. I
Speaker 3: actually have the video from the police down here in
Speaker 3: the bottom. It's of Virginia Giffrey crash. And this is
Speaker 3: from the Australian Police giving their account of what happened
Speaker 3: with the bus accident. And on all accounts, the bus
Speaker 3: accident was a minor accident.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: It was so minor that the police didn't even show up.
Speaker 3: There wasn't a repolice. Yeah, let's listen to the video here.
Speaker 3: It's uh at the bottom of the thing.
Speaker 5: Is that the one with the police standing. I guess.
Speaker 3: It's the that's the one.
Speaker 13: YEP have disputed acclaim made by Prince Andrew's accused of
Speaker 13: Virginia Geoffrey that she was involved in a serious crash
Speaker 13: which has left her with just days to live. The
Speaker 13: forty one year old, who previously alleged that the Duke
Speaker 13: of York had sexually assaulted her when she was a teenager,
Speaker 13: wrote on Instagram yesterday that her car had collided with
Speaker 13: a school bus. While Aidy Pitt is here, there are
Speaker 13: some conflicting details in this, aren't they.
Speaker 15: This is a bit confusing Mary because in her post online,
Speaker 15: Virginia Gufrey said that she's gone into kidney renal failure
Speaker 15: and is being transferred to a specialist urology hospital. And
Speaker 15: she's posted a photo where she appears to be in
Speaker 15: a hospital bed and has quite severe bruising to her face.
Speaker 15: She goes on to say that she has four days
Speaker 15: to live after a crash with the school bus near
Speaker 15: her home in Perth in Australia now Western Australia. Police
Speaker 15: explained they know of a minor crash between a school
Speaker 15: bus and a car that was reported by the bus
Speaker 15: driver the following day, but there are no reported injuries
Speaker 15: to them as a result of the crash.
Speaker 6: Here's what the officers have said.
Speaker 16: I do you know there was an accident on the
Speaker 16: twenty fourth of March. It was a bus with another
Speaker 16: vehicle and was.
Speaker 2: There any passengers on the bus at the time when.
Speaker 16: We were I'm not aware of passengers on the bus,
Speaker 16: but certainly the bus driver reported as he was required
Speaker 16: to do and in the right time frames, and I
Speaker 16: am advised it was about two thousand dollars damage in
Speaker 16: the vehicle.
Speaker 6: Not aware of any injuries. Now.
Speaker 15: Separately, a spokesperson for the East Metropolitan Health Service has
Speaker 15: told Australian media that Misterie Fray is not at any
Speaker 15: of their facilities. Virginia Giffray sued Prince Andrew with allegations
Speaker 15: of sexually assaulting her when she was seventeen years old.
Speaker 15: She claimed to have been trafficked by convicted Peter phil
Speaker 15: Jeffrey Epstein, who was a friend of the Duke of York,
Speaker 15: Prince Andrew, who's always denied the allegations of sexual assault.
Speaker 15: And he did settle the case out of court with
Speaker 15: the Prince paying Misteriefray an undisclosed son, okay, ellipt.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. So the police. The police say that the
Speaker 3: accident was very minor, there was no injuries, there was
Speaker 3: nobody on the boss okay, So something's not adding up,
Speaker 3: how do you have a get enough boss accident? Then
Speaker 3: six days later you end up in the hospital and
Speaker 3: you you look like this right here. It doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense.
Speaker 6: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So this picture was six
Speaker 6: days after the accident. None of the hospitals.
Speaker 3: Accident was on the twenty fourth. Six days later, she
Speaker 3: shows up in the hospital on the thirtieth. That's when
Speaker 3: this photo was posted on Instagram. Was on the thirtieth.
Speaker 6: One of the hospitals said that she was there.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that that this is when the photo was posted.
Speaker 3: Was six days later on Instagram. We don't exactly know
Speaker 3: she showed up to the hospital, but I'm guessing that
Speaker 3: it was after because all this stuff with the bus
Speaker 3: is this is Ross Munds. Bus driver disputes Epstein victim
Speaker 3: Virginia Giffray's collision claims blown out of proportion. The bus
Speaker 3: driver who allegedly hit Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giffray said
Speaker 3: that the mom of the three was completely exaggerating when
Speaker 3: she suggested that the accident nearly killed her. Okay, so,
Speaker 3: Ross Muns, this guy claims that Virginia wasn't even in
Speaker 3: the vehicle. Whenever he hit them, he didn't even see
Speaker 3: her in the vehicle. It was an elderly lady that
Speaker 3: he hit in the vehicle, and she didn't He didn't
Speaker 3: even know that there was another passenger in the car
Speaker 3: until the day after whenever he reported it. The police
Speaker 3: didn't show up to the accident. He didn't This guy
Speaker 3: right here, Ross Muns didn't notify the police until a
Speaker 3: day after the accident. He said that it was all
Speaker 3: that Virginia was. He didn't even see Virginia inside the vehicle.
Speaker 3: Moun maintains that he never actually saw Giffrey inside of
Speaker 3: the vehicle, and the only other interaction with the driver
Speaker 3: utailed checking on her condition and warning her to put
Speaker 3: her signals on when making a turn. That's all the
Speaker 3: conversation was. And she asked how the kids on the bus.
Speaker 3: Now this is saying that there was kids on the bus. Okay,
Speaker 3: we just heard the police say that they didn't have
Speaker 3: any passengers on the bus.
Speaker 6: And they also I could have swore they said in
Speaker 6: that report that none of the local hospitals said that
Speaker 6: she was even at the hospital. So it's like.
Speaker 3: Exactly, she didn't show up until six days that women
Speaker 3: were assuming that she didn't show up until six days
Speaker 3: later when she posted the Instagram post.
Speaker 6: Do we know that she posted that though? Because it
Speaker 6: almost looks like somebody took a picture of her and
Speaker 6: then did the post, wrote all that stuff, and it's like,
Speaker 6: don't even know that she actually even made that post.
Speaker 5: I actually find that post, my opinion, actually extremely weird.
Speaker 6: I find it did she even was she even the
Speaker 6: author of that post?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, Like, I'm just gonna be honest, like I
Speaker 5: in my opinion, I listen, some people either they don't
Speaker 5: care you want attention anyway. I just feel that that
Speaker 5: picture is not the best. I just don't see why
Speaker 5: a woman would want to be posting that, like pretty much,
Speaker 5: I just as a sex victim, I would think, I
Speaker 5: don't know, it's like, you got half your tit hanging
Speaker 5: out with a fucking EKG thing on it, and if
Speaker 5: you weren't there that day, what the fuck is the
Speaker 5: EKG even thing on there for what to look like
Speaker 5: a nipple to catch your attention?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Like, I just feel like this whole fucking picture is
Speaker 5: just off.
Speaker 6: Okay, how what's the timeline between that picture being posted
Speaker 6: and then and then her being pronounced dead or whatever.
Speaker 3: That picture was posted on the thirtieth, and then she
Speaker 3: was supposedly committed suicide on the twenty.
Speaker 6: Fifth, so like a month later, yeah, around.
Speaker 3: Twenty five days. I'm not sure if there was a
Speaker 3: thirty first day in March or not, but if there wasn't,
Speaker 3: then it would be twenty five days later.
Speaker 6: So could we assume was there any like hoopla around
Speaker 6: her death? Was there any autopsy photographs anything like that?
Speaker 6: Any like? Do we know is there anything postmark that
Speaker 6: she arrived at the morgue around that time? Or are
Speaker 6: we just taking it like.
Speaker 8: They're saying that they're not going to do an autopsy
Speaker 8: for two years?
Speaker 6: Okay, well, that's weird. I think maybe the picture we
Speaker 6: saw that was posted on the thirtieth, she may have
Speaker 6: already been dead.
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's the case, because there's photos
Speaker 3: of her leaving the hospital.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I would like to see, just for my
Speaker 6: own curiosity.
Speaker 3: Her leaving the hospital. She left out the back of
Speaker 3: the hospital and this is her brother right well, her
Speaker 3: half brother, Daniel Wilson, that's driving the vehicle, and she's
Speaker 3: in the passenger seat. Because Australia, the driver's side is
Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the car. So these pictures
Speaker 3: of her leaving the back of the hospital trying to
Speaker 3: avoid paparazzi left. This was she was spotted in public
Speaker 3: for the first time two days after she was discharged
Speaker 3: from the Perth Hospital. Let me see when she actually
Speaker 3: I think that this article says when she got.
Speaker 8: Has anybody run that beaten up image through the AI?
Speaker 3: Okay you're free put into a bead store near the
Speaker 3: Royal Retreat in North Perth and a blue Chevrolet Siverado
Speaker 3: being driven by a bearded man around four thirty pm
Speaker 3: Wednesday local time. Yeah, this was. These photos were taken
Speaker 3: after she had left the hospital. Because that's been a
Speaker 3: contention with a lot of people as well. They're like, ah, well,
Speaker 3: you know she's dead in the photo, But I don't
Speaker 3: believe that that's that's the case, because here she is
Speaker 3: after she's left the hospital, alive and well, so all.
Speaker 6: Right, at least we can say we know she probably
Speaker 6: left the hospital. I'm having a hard time with the bruised,
Speaker 6: beat up picture. Yeah, exflicting information about the bus crash
Speaker 6: and are not even being there. I just I just
Speaker 6: it's not it's not mathing for me. I mean, nothing
Speaker 6: adds up.
Speaker 4: I mean, as a woman, I like to ask you,
Speaker 4: but I mean, I guess you haven't been in this situation.
Speaker 4: But do you think, like, if there's something like that
Speaker 4: happened to Julia, you'd be thinking about posting.
Speaker 5: A picture that looks just like that. I just don't know.
Speaker 5: I just don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't get that. I mean, I understand,
Speaker 4: wouldn't you want to be famous now too? But come on, like, dude, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I just find it fucking weird if.
Speaker 6: You're laying there like that. I would be lucky if
Speaker 6: I even like called my sister and told her what happened.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like I'm lying there. They just told
Speaker 6: me I have four days to live. I look like that.
Speaker 6: The last thing on my mind is making a pot
Speaker 6: Like I might call loved ones and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: I got really fucked up in a car accident and
Speaker 6: they're saying I'm gonna die soon. The last thing on
Speaker 6: my mind would be posting something like that on Instagram
Speaker 6: or wherever the fuck. But to me, it looks like
Speaker 6: she didn't take the photo. I don't even know. She
Speaker 6: wrote the caption on the photo to be honest with you,
Speaker 6: you know, like who knows. But I mean we let's
Speaker 6: just say we know she left the hospital because she's
Speaker 6: got her middle finger up. She's like, fuck you, I'm
Speaker 6: going home.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 6: We still don't know what happened to her.
Speaker 8: But writer, can you see the the make and model
Speaker 8: of the car and the reflection in her sunglasses.
Speaker 3: That looks like a white Uh it kind of looks
Speaker 3: like a limb. No, it's not a limo. It's like
Speaker 3: a white vehicle like right here in or something like
Speaker 3: it could be. I couldn't make an accurate depiction on
Speaker 3: exactly what those that seems to be where the photo
Speaker 3: is being taken from. Is the car?
Speaker 1: This is?
Speaker 3: This is going to make a lot more sense whenever
Speaker 3: I read this this next article, it's all come together. Okay.
Speaker 3: So from the trying to make sense of the car crash,
Speaker 3: why are all these discrepancies of the car crash during
Speaker 3: this period of time whenever she was supposedly in the hospital.
Speaker 3: You also had Prince Andrew's ex girlfriend making comments on
Speaker 3: Instagram about how this is karma for making up lies
Speaker 3: against Prince Andrew. This is from the Newsweek article Prince
Speaker 3: Andrew's former girlfriend, Lady Victoria Harvey sparked fury by reacting
Speaker 3: to Virginia giaphrase suicide. But she also did one on
Speaker 3: the bus accident as well, where she posted all these
Speaker 3: stories on Instagram saying that this is this is what
Speaker 3: you get from making up lies against my ex lover,
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew. It's completely ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she got into some heat there and she's
Speaker 3: also you know, Morgan kind of confronts her in the
Speaker 3: interview that we showed that I have in the bottom here,
Speaker 3: but in order to figure out exactly what's going on
Speaker 3: here with the bus crash, I was like, Okay, it's
Speaker 3: not adding up. It's not making any sense. How did
Speaker 3: the bus crash happen on the twenty fourth and then
Speaker 3: it's six days later on the thirtieth, as she posted
Speaker 3: the photos she had these kinds of injuries beforehand, And
Speaker 3: why didn't she go to the hospital immediately? You would
Speaker 3: think that if you'd look like that after a bus crash,
Speaker 3: you would immediately go to the hospital. Okay, especially when
Speaker 3: she says that she has kidnel renal failure. Okay, I'm like,
Speaker 3: why didn't she go to the hospital immediately if these
Speaker 3: injuries came from the bus crash? And then I'm looking
Speaker 3: at these injuries more and I'm like, this doesn't look
Speaker 3: like it came from a bus crash. This looks like
Speaker 3: he was held down and repeatedly beaten in the side
Speaker 3: of it the face. Oh yeah, like someone held her
Speaker 3: down by her neck and just was striking her with
Speaker 3: their right hand in the side of the face. And
Speaker 3: then I'm like, Okay, can I find any articles did
Speaker 3: she say anything about, you know, domestic violence? You know,
Speaker 3: did she make any comments about her husband potentially beating her?
Speaker 3: And it turns out that there is. But this People
Speaker 3: magazine article right here basically lays out the entire story.
Speaker 3: Virginia Giffrey alleges that her husband has physically abused her
Speaker 3: for years. I can no longer stay silent. This is
Speaker 3: the exclusive of the People magazine right as controversy swirls
Speaker 3: about the cryptic Instagram message Jeffrey Epstein's victim, Virginia Giffray,
Speaker 3: recently posted a photo of her deteriorating health following a
Speaker 3: car crash in Australia. She is now coming forward with
Speaker 3: allegations of abuse against her husband of twenty two years,
Speaker 3: Robert Jeffrey. In an exclusive statement to People, Virginia said,
Speaker 3: I was able to fight back against Justlain Maxwell and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein, who abused and trafficked me, but I was
Speaker 3: unable to escape the domestic violence in my marriage until recently,
Speaker 3: after my husband's latest physical assault. I can no longer
Speaker 3: stay silent. Now what physical assault is she referring to.
Speaker 3: It has to be when she's in the hospital and
Speaker 3: she's blaming the bus accident for her injuries. But it
Speaker 3: really wasn't the bus accident that calls her injuries. It
Speaker 3: was her husband beating her, and she went to the
Speaker 3: hospital to blame her husband beating her on the bus accident. Okay,
Speaker 3: kind of got put two and two together there, But
Speaker 3: she basically says it in this statement to People that
Speaker 3: in a roundabout way that the bus accident wasn't what
Speaker 3: calls her injuries. It was the latest physical assault from
Speaker 3: her husband. Okay, and then you go down here a
Speaker 3: little bit. She ended the statement by saying, again, I
Speaker 3: think everyone for their support, I have faith and justice
Speaker 3: will prevail. This statement to People magazine happened less than
Speaker 3: a week after Virginia posted that photo on Instagram on Sunday,
Speaker 3: March thirtieth. Okay, so this was less than a week
Speaker 3: after she had posted the Instagram. She was already out
Speaker 3: of the hospital, and she gave this exclusive statement to
Speaker 3: People magazine. So this wasn't before, this was after. Hey,
Speaker 3: then you scroll down here a little bit. The spokesperson
Speaker 3: for Virginia confirms that Virginia reported on January ninth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, an assault in Western Australia to police, who
Speaker 3: did not charge raw for any crime. People has been
Speaker 3: unable to obtain the incident report. Robert did not respond
Speaker 3: to People People's multiple calls and texts for comment.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So there's another incident where her husband beat her to
Speaker 3: an inch of her life Okay, during a trip to
Speaker 3: one of the children's birthdays in January. So this is
Speaker 3: January of twenty twenty five. Earlier in the year, Robert
Speaker 3: allegedly beat Virginia so severely that she was left with
Speaker 3: a crooked septem and a profriated eye, among other injuries.
Speaker 3: They say she was transported to the hospital for her injuries.
Speaker 3: Her spokeswoman, sad Okay, so still in the year her
Speaker 3: husband beat the shit out of her, She went to
Speaker 3: the hospital, filed a re police report, and from the description,
Speaker 3: a crooked septem and a profriated eye, among other injuries
Speaker 3: would be what she kind of would look like back
Speaker 3: in the earlier in the year as she looks in
Speaker 3: this photo.
Speaker 6: But do we even know that she was at the
Speaker 6: scene of the fucking bus crash?
Speaker 3: We don't. That's that's the thing, is she she reportedly
Speaker 3: was in the back seat, but the bus driver says
Speaker 3: that she that he didn't even see her in the vehicle.
Speaker 5: I don't understand why the cops weren't there.
Speaker 3: You would think it's the best two thousand dollars worth
Speaker 3: of damage, the cops would show up, right. But I
Speaker 3: think the Australian laws are different. I think that if
Speaker 3: it's a if there's no injuries in the crash, then
Speaker 3: it's not required to be reported. What she then just
Speaker 3: throws in like you can just do a bunch of
Speaker 3: insurance fraud on that. I don't know why that's even
Speaker 3: a legal thing, right.
Speaker 2: It seems like the pretty kind of wild situation there,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it would be you know, see,
Speaker 2: it just seems like they're you know, in this individual
Speaker 2: kind of aspect of the lack of documentation around these
Speaker 2: these claims and circumstances. It seems like that's a kind
Speaker 2: of a going trend in Virginia's last you know, few
Speaker 2: months of her life there, right, a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: these incidents, there's not a lot of documentation of what's
Speaker 2: really going on versus the claims that they're being made
Speaker 2: beat the bus, crash or you know this. When you
Speaker 2: make these points about her husband, I think that's you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know how that dude's just walking around like
Speaker 2: he's got no problem.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying, How how can a woman end up
Speaker 6: at the hospital looking like that and nothing happened to
Speaker 6: the husband?
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know what goes on the laws in Australia,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean these uh seems like these things
Speaker 2: are just kind of getting ignored, right.
Speaker 3: Well, this was what happened, was was that whenever he
Speaker 3: beat her earlier in the year, in January of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, and she went to the hospital and then
Speaker 3: went to file a police report of the beating. Robert Giffrey,
Speaker 3: her husband, been filed a family violence restraining order against her. Okay,
Speaker 3: he flipped the script on her, turned it against her.
Speaker 3: Psychopathic narcissist woman beat her? Would do they try and
Speaker 3: flip it on you, right? And he then he alleged
Speaker 3: that she had become violent with him. Okay, so he
Speaker 3: had this family restraining order against her, he took the kids.
Speaker 3: He's already built his entire defense. He built his defense
Speaker 3: from the jump earlier in the year.
Speaker 16: Okay.
Speaker 3: So he has the restraining order. So even if she
Speaker 3: were to go to the police and be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: my husband just beat the shit out of me, it's
Speaker 3: not going to matter. He's the one that has the
Speaker 3: restraining order against her, and he's the one that has
Speaker 3: the kids. And that's how he got the kids was
Speaker 3: through this family violence restraining order. That's how he got
Speaker 3: the kids taken away from her in the first place.
Speaker 3: So if anything were to happen to her, let's say
Speaker 3: she dies, commits suicide, no one is ever going to
Speaker 3: look at him. He is not going to be the
Speaker 3: suspect because he has the restraining order and he's had
Speaker 3: the kids for.
Speaker 2: This entire time.
Speaker 6: Oh shit, yep. But do you think her husband's tied
Speaker 6: up in some stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would guess so, yeah. I mean, that's just
Speaker 3: my personal opinion he would have. I mean, I can't
Speaker 3: you say on I would imagine, yes, I would imagine
Speaker 3: that he is.
Speaker 6: Do you think she was about to open up another
Speaker 6: can of worms or something? And this is why this
Speaker 6: had to happen. I mean, it just seems so far
Speaker 6: removed from the first time she came out with the allegations.
Speaker 6: I mean, what this is like from the over ten
Speaker 6: years later, right.
Speaker 3: Or Okay, So this is Sky Roberts right here. This
Speaker 3: is her brother, her biological brother, and his wife. They
Speaker 3: exclusively tell people Virginia's brother, Sky Roberts, and wife Amanda,
Speaker 3: both thirty six, say Virginia, who lives in Australia, is
Speaker 3: making the allegations now because of the severity of her injuries,
Speaker 3: and Sky says here, I think that the last incident
Speaker 3: that they had, she almost died. Okay, So they're referring
Speaker 3: to the January ninth beating where she went to the
Speaker 3: police file, the report, went to the hospital, and then
Speaker 3: he responded by filing a family restraining order. First, she's
Speaker 3: saying that we had to speak about that truth with
Speaker 3: her on the phone and I think that she had
Speaker 3: acknowledged that if she had one more incident with him,
Speaker 3: he wasn't making it out of there.
Speaker 6: Reminds me of OJ and Nicole Simpson Orenthal.
Speaker 1: James Simpson.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you think he didn't.
Speaker 1: I do the hurts rental car guy.
Speaker 3: Hurts.
Speaker 1: No, OJ, OJ is definitely innocent. He OJ did not
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 6: JJ, you make my butthole pucker every time. You know,
Speaker 6: and I know that he fucking did that ship.
Speaker 2: I've previously been known to have that effect on a
Speaker 2: lot of folks in around the politics in Washington and
Speaker 2: d C. But I I it's unfortunate effect I've presented
Speaker 2: to you there, Julia. But I do have to stand
Speaker 2: by my my my assertion that Alan Durstwitz is the
Speaker 2: creepster and Oronthal.
Speaker 1: J Simpson did not do it.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, I need some further elabor elaboration on
Speaker 6: that in a future episode. But this this does remind
Speaker 6: me of that. It's like my husband keeps beating me.
Speaker 6: She's telling all of her friends and family like the
Speaker 6: next time he does it, I'm getting if anything happens
Speaker 6: to me, he did it. And then it's like she
Speaker 6: actually ends up dead.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, can I add some more mystery
Speaker 2: to all of these these matters we were talking about
Speaker 2: before the generational you know thing that she was born
Speaker 2: into here and I, you know, I had no idea
Speaker 2: writer that her mother's her mother was a Cabelle. You
Speaker 2: saw me light up, because the Cabells are one of
Speaker 2: the blue blood families of Virginia. So I did some
Speaker 2: quick family tree thereover and her fourth grade grandfather was
Speaker 2: the Governor of Virginia, infamous William Cabbell. And then he
Speaker 2: was a member of the Society the Cincinnati, as was
Speaker 2: his father. So it appears Virginia's uncle, her mother's brother,
Speaker 2: her uncle is a member of the Virginia chapter of
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati. Wow, that's super interesting. That's
Speaker 2: why here and here's here's another one for you. So
Speaker 2: if you're familiar with the fellow by the name of
Speaker 2: Robert Mueller, the third Oh Bob from a re FBI
Speaker 2: director Bagman and US attorney US attorney who let Isaac
Speaker 2: Asimoff Junior off with no charges out there in the
Speaker 2: San Francisco Bay area in the nineties after the infamous
Speaker 2: Son of the Rocket Scientists or the Rum sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the the technical advisor to NASA and sci fi writer
Speaker 2: Isaac Asimoff. He his son got busted with the largest
Speaker 2: child child pornography stash in America history at the time.
Speaker 2: So Robert Mueller said, you don't know, you don't need
Speaker 2: to go to jail. As a US attorney, that was
Speaker 2: his decision. So or at least it's not, you know,
Speaker 2: he facilitated that aspect of it. But Bob Muller's wife
Speaker 2: is Isaac Cabell. In fact, she's fourth cousins with Virginia
Speaker 2: Geuphray's mother Cabell.
Speaker 1: Their fourth cousins Cabell.
Speaker 3: So I think Virginia's mom, Lynne Cabell. Where did you
Speaker 3: say that these people were out of Virginia Virginia? Yes,
Speaker 3: she she hails from Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And then they named their their daughter Virginia.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Environment Cabells are infamous in that same family. Cousins of
Speaker 2: these two women, Bob Mueller's wife and Virginia Giffray's mother's.
Speaker 1: Both Cabell women. There.
Speaker 2: Cousins of them was General Charles Cabell, the deputy director
Speaker 2: of the CIA that jeffk infamously fired over that whole
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, that whole bad pig situation as
Speaker 2: Ricky Dick was talking about. And his brother, Earl Cabell
Speaker 2: was the mayor of Dallas who changed the Uh. I'm
Speaker 2: telling this to writers if writer doesn't already know these things.
Speaker 2: But as far as the kind of thanks for the
Speaker 2: folks of the interwebs and the Cabbell family is Earl
Speaker 2: Cabell was the mayor of Dallas that day and changed
Speaker 2: the route.
Speaker 1: Didn't you writer.
Speaker 3: Theorcade yet?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I really enjoyed your jfk X documentary and
Speaker 2: that that was the first I think that was the
Speaker 2: first conversation we had.
Speaker 1: On here with the writer, right Nick on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good one. That's the family. They deep,
Speaker 1: They're deep, right, they run deep in American para politics.
Speaker 8: That's so strange. It seems like all these huge events
Speaker 8: they're sort of playing a role right in the background.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I always say, head list, if you
Speaker 2: look at any conspiracy quote unquote conspiracy theory in American
Speaker 2: para politics throughout its history, all roads lead back to
Speaker 2: the society of the Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Those people magazine articles. So Sky and Amanda note that
Speaker 3: they don't know whether Virginia's medical issues were calls by
Speaker 3: the crash, or complications from a beating she allegedly suffered
Speaker 3: at the hands of her husband, or a combination of
Speaker 3: the two. Let's be clear, she never stated in the
Speaker 3: bus accident the calls of all her other injuries, says guy.
Speaker 3: So right here, this People magazine article is literally telling
Speaker 3: you everything you need to know. It lines up all
Speaker 3: the circumstantial evidence, which is all that is needed for
Speaker 3: an investigation on Virginia Giuphray's husband, Robert Giuffrey. The proven
Speaker 3: domestic violence, a woman beating, narcissistic asshole that needs to
Speaker 3: be investigated for her death. There needs to be an
Speaker 3: investigation on Robert Giffray. I mean that's if he's not
Speaker 3: If he didn't actually kill her, then I'm confident that
Speaker 3: he was somehow involved in some kind of way, and
Speaker 3: there needs to be a giant investigation opened up on him.
Speaker 3: Virginia's lawyer has mentioned that that she casts down whether
Speaker 3: she committed suicide or not, her dad also saying that
Speaker 3: she would never so that she didn't commit suicide. Well,
Speaker 3: then you have the whole thing that she posted on
Speaker 3: x well formerly Twitter on X I'm making a publicly
Speaker 3: known that, in no way, shape or form am I suicidal.
Speaker 3: I've made this known to my therapist and GP. If
Speaker 3: something happens to me in the state of my family,
Speaker 3: do not let this go away. Help me protect them too,
Speaker 3: medieval people want to see me quieted. Now. This was
Speaker 3: from twenty nineteen, and some people have been like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: that's too long of amount of the time for her
Speaker 3: saying that until she supposed to be from her committing
Speaker 3: suic Like there's no fucking statute of limitations on saying
Speaker 3: that you would never kill yourself.
Speaker 6: Like, what is she supposed to do? Post it every day?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, like, fuck doesn't count after two years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, It's it's wired stupid, Like, if you
Speaker 3: make a statement like this, it doesn't matter how long
Speaker 3: ago you made it. You're making the statement in confidence
Speaker 3: that you would never kill yourself if any of you
Speaker 3: guys were to say this or were to ever have
Speaker 3: posted this, and then I don't know, even twenty years later,
Speaker 3: even twenty years later, one of you guys it's reported
Speaker 3: that one of you all can commit a suicide. I'll
Speaker 3: be like, what the fuck? No, get the shit out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't require daily blog updates, right, the anti right update.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. It's like it's even still so
Speaker 6: recent that I would say this, this is relevant, like
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen. It's not like fucking fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: I mean to do Instagram stories every morning. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to off myself.
Speaker 8: We need to make that the new greeting. I'm not suicidal, Yeah, geting.
Speaker 6: I'm not suicidal. Yeah, so writer, you think her husband
Speaker 6: has something to do with this, I'm gathering I clearly
Speaker 6: would agree with you, because I don't think the bus
Speaker 6: story or any of that is adding up. The only
Speaker 6: thing I would say, though, if we're taking it to
Speaker 6: a real conspiratorial place, is that the picture of the
Speaker 6: bruised face Virginia is hitting me wrong. It just looks
Speaker 6: like it's been edited. It looks like it's out of
Speaker 6: place in some way. Even the way her head, well,
Speaker 6: the way her head is laying on the pillow right
Speaker 6: to me, it looks like it's a picture of her
Speaker 6: like maybe laying sideways on the floor and they photo
Speaker 6: shopped her body out and then like put it in
Speaker 6: a hospital. But like, I don't know, it just doesn't
Speaker 6: it's not it's not. I mean, I feel like I
Speaker 6: could do better to shop than that picture.
Speaker 3: That's the thing though, that's kind of like what they
Speaker 3: want you to kind of believe, because then that turns
Speaker 3: her into a liar. That's exactly what Lady Victoria Harvey
Speaker 3: is saying about the Epstein photo of her, of her
Speaker 3: and Prince Andrew. She's trying to say that the photo
Speaker 3: was cropped, that they weren't really there, Okay, that they
Speaker 3: were cut out of the image because it's supposedly Harvey
Speaker 3: went to the exact house that the photo was taken
Speaker 3: and she measured the doorway. Okay, she took a freaking
Speaker 3: tape measure and measured the doorway and then had someone
Speaker 3: stand where Prince Andrew was standing. And then she's making
Speaker 3: the case that there isn't enough room between the banister
Speaker 3: and the edge of the doorframe for three people to
Speaker 3: fit in there, so obviously it has to be photoshopped. Right.
Speaker 3: They're trying to paint her out to be a liar,
Speaker 3: and anything that they can try and use against her
Speaker 3: is making her more of a liar. And that's the
Speaker 3: reason why they were trying to come after her for
Speaker 3: the bus accident story is to try and paint as
Speaker 3: wire so that the allegations don't stick as much. Because
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew's trying to get back into the royal family again,
Speaker 3: right because it's kind of been exiled. But if he
Speaker 3: can prove without a doubt that she's a liar and
Speaker 3: that she's making things up and that the photo of
Speaker 3: them together with Jaselen Maxwell, Prince Andrew and Virginia Jafray
Speaker 3: and Jaselene Maxwell is faked, then he's welcome back with
Speaker 3: open arms, right right.
Speaker 1: And I mean, so.
Speaker 6: That makes me even makes me think even more that
Speaker 6: she didn't even make the post under the picture about
Speaker 6: the bus and your car will turn into a tin
Speaker 6: can and I've got four days to live. And it's
Speaker 6: like you said, they're making her out to be such
Speaker 6: an extreme asshole to lie about this stuff and post
Speaker 6: pictures of her bruised face and do all this, and
Speaker 6: it it's an assassination on her character so that you
Speaker 6: don't believe anything she says. And then it's like her
Speaker 6: husband hurries up and files the report first and shit
Speaker 6: like that, so it's like, oh, no, she's the abuser,
Speaker 6: not me, and I should get the kids, and it's
Speaker 6: just like a total attack on her character. Yeah, well,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 2: We're pointing out Julia to me, and what you're pointing
Speaker 2: out is this. I mean, I've identified these things soon
Speaker 2: from my perspective, that's why kind of purpose she serves
Speaker 2: here in a certain regard. And maybe again maybe not
Speaker 2: by choice, but by continuing to be victimized by this
Speaker 2: network that she was never able to depart and was
Speaker 2: born into.
Speaker 1: But because let's let's look at it this way.
Speaker 2: Where's the other thirty approximately thirty one other victims from
Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven Florida case. They're identified by
Speaker 2: the FBI, right interviewed. It was all in the It
Speaker 2: was all in the case. I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: that stuff is available through the Florida Sunshine Laws, through
Speaker 2: the state case. Not all the names, but necessarily but
Speaker 2: the total number of victims when they were listed in there.
Speaker 2: But that's where correct me if I'm wrongwriter, that's where
Speaker 2: Virginia originates from, as far as we never hear Virginia's
Speaker 2: name before that case, right.
Speaker 3: I believe that that is correct. That's from twenty fifteen, or.
Speaker 1: That the initial Florida in Palm Beach.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, yeah, yeah, I believe I've ever heard names
Speaker 3: first and brought up, but she didn't didn't come out
Speaker 3: like publicly until twenty and fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So you know where you what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Where are the rest of these other victims from that
Speaker 2: original case.
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you where. Two other of the
Speaker 3: victims are victims are are dead as well, Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 3: days Virginia Giffray's death marks a third loss. Experts say
Speaker 3: predators need to be punished. This is a Fox News article.
Speaker 3: So two other victims of Jeffrey Epstein, Caroline Andreano, who
Speaker 3: testified against Jesselene Maxwell during her sex trafficking trial, died
Speaker 3: May twenty third, two thousand and twenty twenty three, after
Speaker 3: an accidental drug overdose in a West Palm Beach, Florida hotel.
Speaker 6: Where I'm okay, so that's another accident.
Speaker 3: Leaskuy Patrick LEAs Sky Patrick, age of twenty nine, after
Speaker 3: a drug overdose, died after a drug overdose in West
Speaker 3: Palm Beach, Florida in twenty and seventeen. The police say
Speaker 3: the police had that the overdose was accidental.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, same same hotel room and everything. These bitches
Speaker 6: are just showing up there and just accidentally overdosing themselves.
Speaker 6: Come on, fuck off?
Speaker 2: Was that the same hotel as that won a gubernatorial
Speaker 2: candidate for the Democratic Party? News overdose down there?
Speaker 3: Probably that one. Yeah, I do remember that. I don't
Speaker 3: remember what name of the hotel room that was, but.
Speaker 1: It doesn't give Gillo I think was his name.
Speaker 2: Maybe he welke Ume next to uh, you know, met
Speaker 2: that or something like that, next to you know, mail hooker,
Speaker 2: NICs for paramedics picking them up.
Speaker 4: I think the drugs is even a good way to
Speaker 4: try to even just kind of blow off the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Oh well, since they were sex trafficked and sex workers,
Speaker 4: they must have done drugs as well, so of course
Speaker 4: they would die that way.
Speaker 6: They were crackheads. Yeah talking about of course they did this,
Speaker 6: But I mean all three of them are dead, right,
Speaker 6: Like what, there are no coincidences when it comes to
Speaker 6: this kind of stuff. You guys like you are not
Speaker 6: going to convince me that these are just random acts
Speaker 6: of like accidental drug overdoses and weird. I got hit
Speaker 6: by bus just kidding, No, I didn't show up suicide.
Speaker 1: Come on, for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure that's what was getting with these tails, Like
Speaker 2: what are these hotels now they're doing all this trafficking stuff.
Speaker 2: These people are popping up dead in these hotels in
Speaker 2: this region, Like what is really going on down there?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And how easy is that to like overdose somebody. It's
Speaker 3: very extremely especially if they have a like a prescription,
Speaker 3: if they have like a doctor prescription for some sort
Speaker 3: of medication. Literally all you gotta do is go in
Speaker 3: there and switch on their pills for like high amounts
Speaker 3: of fins, which is what I believe happened to Prince.
Speaker 3: That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: Speaking of fenanyl, you can go old school Watergate Burglars
Speaker 2: c I a style when they try to put LSD
Speaker 2: on the wheeling, the steering wheel of Jack Anderson, the reporter,
Speaker 2: to cause him to loosening and crash. You can put
Speaker 2: somel in that regard and you don't have to use much.
Speaker 2: And it would because you don't have to ingest the fennel.
Speaker 2: You could, you know, come in contact with you. You
Speaker 2: could be fucking It wouldn't take much. That's a good
Speaker 2: way to take someone out right and be called a
Speaker 2: drug overdose.
Speaker 1: Right, yep, well do you do?
Speaker 6: You guys remember all of the accidental drug overdoses that
Speaker 6: came out of the Laurel Canyon. I've talked about this somebody, Those.
Speaker 1: Were real drug overdoses.
Speaker 6: The KYJ Come on, dude, I mean literally.
Speaker 2: Forward didn't kill himself and then light his car on
Speaker 2: fire from the backseat.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're trying to tell me?
Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about, all the all the accidental
Speaker 6: Laurel Canyon drug over doses. And then it's like you
Speaker 6: got Marilyn Monroe, who I've also talked about, Right, Marilyn
Speaker 6: Monroe's death doesn't make any sense, and the autopsy report
Speaker 6: agrees with me. And so it's just like they cannot
Speaker 6: convince me that when somebody's coming out with stuff like
Speaker 6: this and then they end up an accidental drug overdose
Speaker 6: that it was just purely an accident. In this bitch
Speaker 6: getting hit by bus and all this posting on Instagram
Speaker 6: and all this stuff. I mean, it's just like, how
Speaker 6: retarded do they? I Mean, it's like they you literally
Speaker 6: can't even believe your own eyes because they'll just tell
Speaker 6: you that it's you know that you're you're grasping at
Speaker 6: straws or whatever. But it's like, no, dude, this is real.
Speaker 2: Remember do you remember Ann Hesh's accidental accident in car
Speaker 2: accident she died from.
Speaker 1: She's literally trying to get off the stretcher.
Speaker 6: Sitting up like fuck you, I'm not dead. And it's like.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. Didn't happen.
Speaker 3: That one's crazy, right, that one's wild. And then you
Speaker 3: got Jim Morrison too, died of an accidental drug overdose.
Speaker 6: I actually think he's still alive.
Speaker 1: Years ago when Rush Limbaugh died.
Speaker 3: Rush Limball, that's who he was.
Speaker 1: J dude.
Speaker 2: He actually there's a clip on YouTube he's singing this
Speaker 2: is the End, which you know he's playing at the
Speaker 2: studio and singing along. It is Jim Morrison that he
Speaker 2: used the same gold microphone. You can find the last
Speaker 2: photo of Jim Morrison about four months where he died.
Speaker 2: He's super fat, looks like a young Rush Limbaugh. And
Speaker 2: then last point and he went on national TV at
Speaker 2: the height of his fame in like sixty eight and
Speaker 2: they're like, what do you want? You know, where do
Speaker 2: you see yourself in ten years? He says, Oh, I
Speaker 2: hope I just fade away in corporate America. That's what
Speaker 2: Russe Limball did.
Speaker 6: Seriously, I mean, obviously I would agree with that. I
Speaker 6: think a lot of the people who died in the
Speaker 6: sixties were actually just repurposed as different characters.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I mean I think, yeah, the show
Speaker 3: put on an agenda, so they weren't even real to
Speaker 3: begin with, and then does and then they just go
Speaker 3: on to do something else.
Speaker 6: I did recently watch writers documentary Clockwork Shining. That's what
Speaker 6: it's called, right. I loved it. I love cubriacause that's
Speaker 6: that's my guy right there. I have done a ton
Speaker 6: of research on him, and I really enjoyed that. I
Speaker 6: really like your take on things. Anyways, I say all
Speaker 6: that to say he was part of the sixties too, right,
Speaker 6: and like the fake moon landing and all that. They
Speaker 6: can take anything they want. What I'm just saying, they
Speaker 6: can make you believe anything you want. A lot of
Speaker 6: that stuff came out of the sixties. I think a
Speaker 6: lot of the people that died in the sixties were repurposed.
Speaker 6: The only the point I'm trying to make though, is
Speaker 6: that I think these people are actually dead. I think
Speaker 6: they get actually killed because of what they're trying to do.
Speaker 6: And that's like one of the saddest parts about this
Speaker 6: is that these are like real people dying and shit,
Speaker 6: and we'll never really know what happened to them for sure.
Speaker 2: Well have you seen have you seen JFK Actualia, Because
Speaker 2: that really that I blew up my brain horn reconsidering
Speaker 2: matters relative of the JFK that whole Bay a Pig situation.
Speaker 6: Yes, I did see that one. And I also have
Speaker 6: Jay Widner on I follow him on YouTube, and I've
Speaker 6: always really liked his stuff on you know, Paul McCartney
Speaker 6: being replaced by a look alike, and I've always really
Speaker 6: loved that stuff. But yeah, I mean a lot of
Speaker 6: people will say, like this stuff is staged, this stuff
Speaker 6: is fake. But I'm in the percentage of conspiracy theorist
Speaker 6: who thinks that these people actually die. When you see
Speaker 6: like this happening, especially the like Virginia and the other
Speaker 6: two that died in the hotel, I think they're actually dead.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think so too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's the complex nature of looking at these things.
Speaker 2: But I do think it is important to kind of
Speaker 2: consider those aspects, like like, like you y'all present their
Speaker 2: JFKX writer the whole This is just all part of
Speaker 2: the show, right.
Speaker 1: You know, because it is. It's quite a show too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you really think about it
Speaker 1: in the way you all present that argument.
Speaker 3: Well, and not only that, there's so much stuff with
Speaker 3: JFK that is just completely I mean, there's this vanity
Speaker 3: Fair article. I don't want to detract from what we're
Speaker 3: talking about here, but this vanity Fair article of JFK
Speaker 3: is talking about how he staged his own murder in
Speaker 3: a James Bond inspired spy film two months before his assassination.
Speaker 3: Article is insane. And this came on the heels of
Speaker 3: the release of our documentary. So he essentially did a
Speaker 3: home movie baking his assassination two months before his supposed
Speaker 3: real assassination in Daly Plaza, with the exact same Secret
Speaker 3: Service agents showing up on video. So it's just like, okay,
Speaker 3: well this seems like it was like a test run,
Speaker 3: right right, they were just kind of testing this out.
Speaker 3: Nick the articles in the bottom here, you just want
Speaker 3: to show it really quick so people can see it.
Speaker 3: It's the vanity Yes, as a Vanity Fair article that
Speaker 3: goes into detail about this. It came out at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the year, and it just goes into all
Speaker 3: of this stuff, like how Jackie was a wanted to
Speaker 3: be a filmmaker and a student of film, and how
Speaker 3: they shot this fake Paul landis was there are all
Speaker 3: the Secret Service agents were in on this fake assassination
Speaker 3: a couple of months before the uh this is Landa's
Speaker 3: talking about it right here. At one point, land has
Speaker 3: told me that in nineteen sixty three he had taken
Speaker 3: part in a prank movie about an assassination. So here's
Speaker 3: evidence of JFK doing a fake assassination home video just
Speaker 3: a couple of months before the supposed real assassinations.
Speaker 1: Solid part of.
Speaker 3: The show wild.
Speaker 6: I mean, I say this all the time, but it's
Speaker 6: just it becomes more and more true. I feel like
Speaker 6: we're living in the most interesting season of American horror
Speaker 6: story ever. I mean, it's just like one thing after another.
Speaker 1: What I like. I like the reference. I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with the backstory of that, but I like where your
Speaker 1: heads out there.
Speaker 2: Except from the from the post apocalyptic nature of what
Speaker 2: you're what you're describing. Because I say the same thing,
Speaker 2: I feel like we live in a Philip K. Dick
Speaker 2: inspired nightmare. You live in a transpocalypse, dude, don't get
Speaker 2: me started and Robert the dolls or don't make him
Speaker 2: trans either, because then I'll really be out of here.
Speaker 6: Oh god, that's part.
Speaker 3: I think we need a remake of Jawls where the
Speaker 3: sharks are transgender sharks.
Speaker 1: I'm not watching Wokes Goberg. Is that is that your describing?
Speaker 3: That's right, I would love that.
Speaker 8: That sounds like prime Ai slope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of transgender triangle between them.
Speaker 2: Well, they can't kill the sharks because they're trans. They
Speaker 2: got a lot of meat the humans still, right, That's
Speaker 2: that's kind of the stick, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, that's the one. But yeah, that you're killing.
Speaker 2: Richard Dreyfus and and uh you know the old sin
Speaker 2: Roy Schneider. They're the ones getting murk because everyone's trying
Speaker 2: to kill the shark.
Speaker 1: Right. I like the plotline of Your jaw Your Drawls
Speaker 1: remake their rudder. It's good stuff.
Speaker 3: I think Holly Wish is some men email hit Me
Speaker 3: in the Middle, Transgender Drawls remake in the Middle.
Speaker 8: You've got to have an interlude of the guy from
Speaker 8: Pretty Woman chasing a dribble.
Speaker 5: Oh god, gear Yeah, oh man, we should do that.
Speaker 3: We should definitely. Well, they're remaking holes. They're remaking holes,
Speaker 3: and they're making it trans I think.
Speaker 6: Come on, this Shila above movie. What was wrong with
Speaker 6: the first one?
Speaker 7: I loved it.
Speaker 6: I thought it was great. Not enough trainees, for God's sake.
Speaker 6: I thought that all the races were represented, at least
Speaker 6: in the first run. But not enough trainees. Not not
Speaker 6: enough trainees. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 5: Money move.
Speaker 3: Disney's gim Flipped Holes reboot announces cast and character details.
Speaker 3: A new gender flip Disney Plus series version of Holes
Speaker 3: has just announced the cast and the characters is shaping
Speaker 3: up to look very differently than from the two thousand
Speaker 3: and three limitation of the famous book. Neither neither had
Speaker 3: this girl who is playing no longer a boy named Stanley,
Speaker 3: but a girl named Hayley. So yeah, so it's a
Speaker 3: girl playing a boy playing a girl.
Speaker 6: Then is this gonna be an Elliott Page? Fucking is she.
Speaker 8: Gonna be the new uh? What's the name?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think Ellie Page is
Speaker 1: act anymore?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: He's been in some interesting movies.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I'll check it out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they should get Bella Ramsey to play the
Speaker 3: lead role in this holes reboot.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see I got a picture up there
Speaker 2: for nick. I'd like to see a made for TV
Speaker 2: movie on this.
Speaker 1: On this fella.
Speaker 6: Shit, who's said?
Speaker 2: That's Buffalo Jared Visa a likely mind controlled assassinated one
Speaker 2: on a multi states killing spree, but previous back in
Speaker 2: last last May May of twenty twenty four. But previous
Speaker 2: to that, he he tried to get me to hire
Speaker 2: him as my PR guy, and I didn't have I
Speaker 2: wasn't looking for a PR guy, and he wouldn't take
Speaker 2: no for an answer. And it turns out the guy
Speaker 2: he murdered to start that killing spree hired him as
Speaker 2: his PR guy.
Speaker 9: What.
Speaker 1: I can't make this ship up.
Speaker 6: He's got a Bink song on just.
Speaker 1: In a NASA shirt. You like his NASA you know
Speaker 1: half see you.
Speaker 8: You gotta tell them about how he got caught. You
Speaker 8: gotta tell them about how he got caught. That's the
Speaker 8: most hilarious part.
Speaker 1: Oh folks.
Speaker 2: Continuing the next Sunday for Operation GCD Sundays, The Lessons
Speaker 2: of Buffalo Jared Revisa. So when I say mind Control
Speaker 2: of Assassin writer, he's from like the kind of he
Speaker 2: used to work at it too. This infamous sports hypnosis
Speaker 2: and sports psychologists family, the Revisas.
Speaker 1: They're credited with breaking.
Speaker 2: The Curse of the Goat, the curse that allowed the
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs to win the twenty sixteen year old series,
Speaker 2: which was almost predicted, predicted, as we discussed their night
Speaker 2: with the Julia Nick on Operation GCD, was almost predicted
Speaker 2: by Back to the Future too, they said twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: so they were off by a year in that film.
Speaker 3: Did you see what like aad movies? Now there they
Speaker 3: cut an entire scene out of Back to the Future,
Speaker 3: an Amazon cut an entire scene out of the Russ movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the beginning, I've heard these things.
Speaker 3: We're also Mike Tyson was also hypnotized by his coach
Speaker 3: as well, to be like they'd been using hypnotism and
Speaker 3: and all that ship for sports for a really long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's creepy, right.
Speaker 6: Did you hear about the big buff black dude from
Speaker 6: White Chicks that somebody was trying to diddle on him?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: You do you know?
Speaker 2: He went to intralocking the summer camp for the you know,
Speaker 2: acting and musical talented kids up there Michigan, funded by
Speaker 2: you know, largely funded by Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 6: The big black dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a teenager he attended Interlocking.
Speaker 2: What the fun here's an here's a fun here's a
Speaker 2: fun fact, Jeffrey Epstein's style of Interlocking. Since we're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, Jeffrey Epstein, stuff with you.
Speaker 1: Frey.
Speaker 2: So the actor Anthony Rapp, he played in Uh they
Speaker 2: he's in Confused. He was the dirty kid of the Glasses, right,
Speaker 2: he was in Rent That fellow. He came out and
Speaker 2: made allegations against Kevin Spacey publicly in Serra twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Probably he said Kevin Spacey diddled in when he was
Speaker 2: thirteen years old. Well, the summer is thirteen years old.
Speaker 2: That summer he was at inn Locking. You know a
Speaker 2: place where Jeffrey Epstein had his own cottage. Was Kevin
Speaker 2: Spacey diddling Anthony Rapp at Jeffrey Epstein's cottage at Interlocking.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking these questions. I have no idea. Damn.
Speaker 6: Well, have you seen the new logo for Nickelodeon? Looks
Speaker 6: like Little Saint James Island it's creepy, like what because
Speaker 6: we all know like the Dan Schneider weirdness and like
Speaker 6: the Nickelodeon stuff that was going on, the Amanda Bines
Speaker 6: and like whatever whatever Zoe Lynn spears. But then you
Speaker 6: look at the new Nickelodeon Splat logo and it literally
Speaker 6: if you put it up next to Little Saint James,
Speaker 6: it's like you could almost mix him back with them.
Speaker 6: It's like the same exact shape. So what's really Have
Speaker 6: you heard the theories though?
Speaker 9: That?
Speaker 2: I was just good and I was just gonna make
Speaker 2: a point on that, Anthony rap guy, go ahead, Oh,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 6: Going to say, have you heard though that there are
Speaker 6: some people in the conspiracy theory community who are saying
Speaker 6: that Jeffrey Epstein never existed though, that he's a figment
Speaker 6: of our fucking imagination, and that he's like a CGI
Speaker 6: fake person. I'm just saying I don't agree with that,
Speaker 6: but that's something that's floating around.
Speaker 1: That's the nihilism that he rubs around conspiracy culture today.
Speaker 1: That's what that is.
Speaker 2: That's believing nothing, and it's kind of you know, you
Speaker 2: see a little bit kind of creeping in a lot
Speaker 2: of aspects of it. I think that's that's I have
Speaker 2: not seen that, though Julian nah Right are there on
Speaker 2: one point. On Anthony Rapp, I'm ashamed of myself. His
Speaker 2: actually most notable role is probably as the ancient alien
Speaker 2: cargo cultist cult leader at the end of the film
Speaker 2: road Trip restarts his own cult Heaven's Gate style, and
Speaker 2: then they try and they don't drink the kool aid.
Speaker 1: He's the only one who drinks the kol a.
Speaker 3: Road Trip with the euro Trip, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, he was the he was the teacher's assistant in
Speaker 2: uh in road Trip and at the end of it,
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's competing a love interest for Amy
Speaker 2: Smart with Josh Brecken. I know, to don't ask me
Speaker 2: why I know all these people'snames, because I can't tell
Speaker 2: you the difference between Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton. But
Speaker 2: he plays the competing love interest and I enjoy both
Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, But he starts his own cold at
Speaker 2: the end, like Heavn's Gate style, and they kind of
Speaker 2: mixed Theavan's Gate, you know, with the robes and stuff,
Speaker 2: and he's the only one who drinks the kool aid,
Speaker 2: and you know, everyone else is like fuck this dude
Speaker 2: just killed himself, you know, notable role. I'm ashamed for
Speaker 2: not remembering that.
Speaker 3: I vaguely remember that movie.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that it's a scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, road Trip, road Trip, euro Trip. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of those style of comedies. They don't make those
Speaker 3: types of comedies.
Speaker 1: That is weird.
Speaker 8: They really don't like comedy has been narrowed down to
Speaker 8: a very very tight thing. I mean, do they make
Speaker 8: comedy movies anymore? Do they make movies anymore?
Speaker 1: I haven't Yeah, you had it right. Do they make
Speaker 1: comedy movies anymore? They make movies. I just don't think
Speaker 1: they're really comedies.
Speaker 8: That's nuts.
Speaker 3: You're funny for a completely different reason. Yeah. So I
Speaker 3: guess let's wrap up this Virginia Giffrey thing. We got,
Speaker 3: we got? Uh oh, what's the last the video here? Okay,
Speaker 3: So Prince Andrew's like screl friends. Lady Victoria Harvey was
Speaker 3: on Piis Morgan. She's trying to debunk the whole photo
Speaker 3: with Prince Andrew and Virginia Giffrey with Giselene Maxwell in there.
Speaker 3: She's trying to say that the thing was photoshopped, that
Speaker 3: three people couldn't fit in between the banister and the
Speaker 3: end of the doorframe. They go on about this for
Speaker 3: like twenty minutes, and then finally a gentleman on this
Speaker 3: panel ask her, hey, where is this? Where are these theories?
Speaker 13: Like?
Speaker 3: Who's propping up your theories that this photo is faked?
Speaker 3: And you'll get her response here, this is really damning,
Speaker 3: damning what she says, sir, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Does?
Speaker 17: It remained completely inexplicable, in which he couldn't explain to
Speaker 17: Emily Mateless in that infamous Newsnight interview for the BBC.
Speaker 17: He flew to New York. He was seen in Central
Speaker 17: Part walking with his mate. He spent four days at
Speaker 17: Epstein's house. Women were seeing coming and going the entire time,
Speaker 17: and he knew by then that his great buddy was
Speaker 17: a convicted by the.
Speaker 18: Way, so those photos of the girls coming out the house, now,
Speaker 18: they didn't come out for many, many years, So I
Speaker 18: don't even believe they were during that time.
Speaker 1: Do you believe anything that.
Speaker 6: A lot of the girls. Who is a great conspiracy,
Speaker 6: who's organizing this conspiracy?
Speaker 18: It's it's it's the it's the intelligence three letter of
Speaker 18: word agencies that are wrapped up in this. So I'm
Speaker 18: not going to go into right now, because I would
Speaker 18: rather stay alive. But what I'm saying is.
Speaker 3: You she just said it.
Speaker 1: She's just.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it when I was watching those Christian.
Speaker 8: She's just going to get paycheck though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's being paid organizations to go on this show,
Speaker 3: the Finn Prince Andrew that she's not even dating or
Speaker 3: even has a relationship with.
Speaker 6: She can't even look at the camera either.
Speaker 1: They're a guest on the right.
Speaker 2: These aren't paid you know, necessarily paid consultants reporters, right,
Speaker 2: she's just his ex girlfriend, right, yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but she literally is like looking down and shaking
Speaker 6: her head.
Speaker 1: For sure, that's what needs to happen.
Speaker 6: I mean literally, dude.
Speaker 8: Is saying something. I can't see it under there.
Speaker 15: There we go.
Speaker 6: They deleted Virginia.
Speaker 8: I believe it.
Speaker 2: I mean that is interesting because you think about, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you think about the history of Australia at least
Speaker 2: as far as these spooky activities go relative to American politics, right,
Speaker 2: it's seems to be pretty get embedded with like CIA stuff,
Speaker 2: since you know, back to that whole Bay of Pig
Speaker 2: situation when they were you know, installing that kind of
Speaker 2: secret satellite side over there called like there area fifty one.
Speaker 2: I'm sure writers familiar that I'm talking about the Australia
Speaker 2: fifty one.
Speaker 8: Aren't they in the five Eyes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They are in the five eyes. Yeah, and that's that's
Speaker 2: a good point too. So there's a you know, it's
Speaker 2: again we can call it Australia in America in different places.
Speaker 2: But it seems like these networks of spooks go and
Speaker 2: handle like Pine something maybe Pine Crest or there's like
Speaker 2: a fifty one operation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pine, Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's
Speaker 3: a joint operation between the American government and the Austurian government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funded, it started during the Kennedy administration
Speaker 2: and somehow was signed off I think on legislation, he
Speaker 2: signed off on executive order maybe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pine Gap, there we go, thank you, Yes.
Speaker 1: Fine, yap. These things are very connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again five eyes, which that is No one
Speaker 2: talks about that anymore, do they headless?
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 8: So New Zealand has a rocket program that is primarily
Speaker 8: centered around rocket Lab, a private space flight company that
Speaker 8: operates uh in uh the Mahatta Peninsula. So they've got
Speaker 8: all these rocket programs out there too. Between Australia and
Speaker 8: New Zealand, and they're hoping to be like the center
Speaker 8: core of the whole satellite takeover of everything in our lives.
Speaker 8: So if there is a deep state out there and
Speaker 8: a big time intelligence that work, I think that's probably
Speaker 8: what they'd be engaged with. I mean, she's got her
Speaker 8: brothers out there too. What are the odds that they're
Speaker 8: not working with one of these rocketry programs in Australia.
Speaker 8: These people are very hooked in.
Speaker 1: I think again that's a great point.
Speaker 2: Again, her uncle, Robert Gamble Cabell number three, appears to
Speaker 2: be the current member of her bloodline. So there's five
Speaker 2: Kabel brothers. They all served as officers under these initial
Speaker 2: Kabell families there in the goose Land of Virginia. So
Speaker 2: she's of one of those brothers, you know. So I'm
Speaker 2: just saying there's a lot of Cabell that are in
Speaker 2: this mix, but her uncle appears to be the hereditary
Speaker 2: member on that line.
Speaker 6: Her brothers are working like in all the weirdness like
Speaker 6: Tesla and all that stuff. I mean, come on, and
Speaker 6: her dad clearly knew Epstein in some capacity, let's not
Speaker 6: forget for sure, And her dad.
Speaker 2: I think it correct if I'm wrong, has some interesting
Speaker 2: proclivities in life these days.
Speaker 3: Yes, he has a cross dresser.
Speaker 1: There you go, transpoly damn.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, here's this pretty I'm going to bring up
Speaker 3: his Facebook profile. They're eventually going to make this ship private,
Speaker 3: so we can't show's dad's Facebook page unless Sky Roberts.
Speaker 3: Here it is. Okay, are we sharing it? Okay? I
Speaker 3: can't see it? Okay, got it? Okay, scroll down here
Speaker 3: a little bit. Okay, here he is Crawls dressing.
Speaker 2: Come on, come the fuck on, Ryder dropped out, I
Speaker 2: mean last week on Initi Lost like, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Great finds there.
Speaker 6: Darling, that's the name I'm gonna give this is Darling, dirty, puss, nasty,
Speaker 6: just gross.
Speaker 3: Kimberly Roberts. I love this picture. Sky. Your makeup looks
Speaker 3: better than mine.
Speaker 6: Her makeup looks like dog shit. But that's besides the point.
Speaker 6: The point is gross.
Speaker 1: Who's Kimberly? So this seems to be accepted amongst the
Speaker 1: Roberts family. I guess I didn't pick up on that
Speaker 1: comment before Jennifer says.
Speaker 3: Roberts is that's Virginia's maiden name is Roberts.
Speaker 1: No, That's what I'm saying, is that who's Kimberly Roberts comedy?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that? His dad is that? I don't know, Let's
Speaker 1: find out his sister, his dad, her dad's sister is that?
Speaker 1: Who's this?
Speaker 3: She lives in Spokane, Washington from Oak Grove, California. So
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, uh, California. So some kind of religion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it seems to be that's accepted in the family,
Speaker 2: that that he's a cross dresser than huh.
Speaker 3: See. I don't know exactly what relationship this uh Kimberly
Speaker 3: person is to Sky to give us that information, but
Speaker 3: it definitely is a that's.
Speaker 1: Right, clearly, can folk right? Clearly? Can folk there right?
Speaker 3: That's definitely.
Speaker 2: I was just kind of commenting on the generational nature
Speaker 2: of these things and being being Virginia born into this stuff,
Speaker 2: like maybe it wasn't her just her mother's family on
Speaker 2: the Cabel side. Maybe she's born to it on both sides, right,
Speaker 2: and maybe that's why her folks are married in the
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 6: That's what I would assume, just based off like previous
Speaker 6: research I've done, because it's usually like generational Satanism or
Speaker 6: something like that. And I'm not even trying to be
Speaker 6: hateful about Darlene Dirty Posts right here.
Speaker 2: It's just that Darling dirty Puss alone. Well, we don't
Speaker 2: need a hate or Julia.
Speaker 6: Darling dirty Puss had some type of hand in what
Speaker 6: happened to Virginia in my opinion, so so kind of
Speaker 6: questions his.
Speaker 2: Morals and ethics, ethics in life, right, maybe he did
Speaker 2: sell his daughter and the stuff.
Speaker 1: If he's dancing around like a little lady here in
Speaker 1: life these days.
Speaker 6: Well, I have interviewed people who are survivors of SRA
Speaker 6: and their family. Nine times out of ten is usually
Speaker 6: helping them and propelling them down that path. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, Darling dirty Puss is definitely not getting off
Speaker 6: Scott free.
Speaker 2: I think that I like your nickname. It's strangely enough,
Speaker 2: he already had an ambiguous name in the first place. Well,
Speaker 2: they asked what his female name, Robert Scott it was already.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Was he born into some like,
Speaker 2: you know, weird situation already?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, here's what I'm saying. You leave Darling dirty
Speaker 1: Puss alone.
Speaker 2: He was born into it To Julie, We're gonna got
Speaker 2: at some point in time, we got stop point fingers.
Speaker 3: This is Daniel Wilson.
Speaker 1: Call mechanical for their actions, but stop point fingers.
Speaker 6: You know me. This is a.
Speaker 3: Virginia Geffras half brother, Daniel Wilson, and he is a
Speaker 3: quality specialist at Blue Origin. This is the guy.
Speaker 6: That is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Former return to Service inspector, professional Aircraft Accessories, former
Speaker 3: aircraft mainenans technician, Aircraft meinus technician at comber Delta Connection.
Speaker 3: So we worked for a bunch of aircraft companies. Uh,
Speaker 3: and now he works as a quality specialist for Blue Origin,
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos's white company that just launched all those female
Speaker 3: astronauts as they say they were in space for.
Speaker 8: My ass, my very very fake capsule, fake capsule and everything.
Speaker 8: Did you see that thing?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 2: Here's my idea. Whether they're getting worse on each production.
Speaker 2: The one with Bill Shatner was better than this one,
Speaker 2: and that one was bad.
Speaker 6: One hundred What was it? Katy Perry with her dirty.
Speaker 2: Landing on these things, you know, and they got them
Speaker 2: landing role with Bill Shatner too. They're you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, They're not doing a good job.
Speaker 16: Dir.
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm going to make a Darling
Speaker 1: for you out of Skylar.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Darling, dirty puss mascot. But I was going
Speaker 6: to say Kubrick's version of this, the two thousand and
Speaker 6: one in Space odysty was better than the Katy Perry footage. Okay,
Speaker 6: let's just do it.
Speaker 1: Sure for sure?
Speaker 5: Right, got anything left?
Speaker 3: Okay? The mission last at eleven minutes. Sorry, guys, what
Speaker 3: did I say? Five minutes? It was a very brief
Speaker 3: amount of time, and then they didn't even break the
Speaker 3: upper atmosphere, So yeah, five minutes, eleven minutes. It was
Speaker 3: officially Katy Perry flew into space on Monday, April fourteenth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Is a part of Blue Origins in
Speaker 3: S thirty one mission and all female crew that also
Speaker 3: introduced Lawrence Sanchez, gall King, Ashua Bowie, Amanda and Caroline Finns.
Speaker 3: So the flight reached a height of sixty two miles
Speaker 3: very not even out of the upper atmosphere of Earth, carlsing,
Speaker 3: which was the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.
Speaker 3: The mission lasted about eleven minutes, so very quick, very short,
Speaker 3: and somehow the door opens from the inside. I mean weird.
Speaker 6: It's that's like believing in the fucking Easter buddy to me.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sorry, that's just it's just so stupid.
Speaker 6: I can't believe any of it anymore.
Speaker 3: It is unbelievable anything to do with space. Wasn't it
Speaker 3: just uh who launched that lunar module onto them? Was
Speaker 3: it Iran or no? India? Remember when India did the lunar.
Speaker 5: Thing Atari game?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say. I remember seeing something
Speaker 6: and just laughing.
Speaker 1: Bio biofuel, poop fuel the rocket.
Speaker 6: It was a poop rocket.
Speaker 1: I mean, they may as well. It's the most abundant resource.
Speaker 6: Right, and it's curry poop too, which is set up more.
Speaker 5: Bo That's how they get to the moment with that one.
Speaker 1: They can fill that.
Speaker 6: Bitch up with curry farts and it would blast you
Speaker 6: into the X universe.
Speaker 8: Is that what Parsons meant by solid state fuel? What
Speaker 8: was his magic mixture?
Speaker 2: Is curry?
Speaker 1: You know, it's stuff. You know, it's dealing with stuff.
Speaker 1: It's Crowley.
Speaker 2: Na Nick red crow You ever, if anyone's ever read
Speaker 2: Some Crowd, you know that dude was into but some
Speaker 2: weird anus related actions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 6: What was the stuff that Doc Brown used in the
Speaker 6: Dolorean to get it up to the jigawatts?
Speaker 1: What was it called the capacitor?
Speaker 6: Know, the stuff that he used to like fuel?
Speaker 3: It we don't remember because.
Speaker 6: Netflix cut it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Nice. So it's curry farts and plutonium to get into
Speaker 6: the next universe.
Speaker 1: Figger recipe to get to the moon.
Speaker 6: Yep, Libyans.
Speaker 8: Maybe that's the part that they cut out.
Speaker 6: They might have, right, because it's like, oh, we got
Speaker 6: to be sensitive towards the terrorists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they put a bunch of fuel in the ship.
Speaker 3: When the fuel runs all they switch over to curry
Speaker 3: farts and then that lets them coach.
Speaker 1: That way. Green the Green Project is totally green, or
Speaker 1: mean totally brown.
Speaker 6: But I mean you know what I mean, recycled curry.
Speaker 8: Farts to not how they'll block out the sun.
Speaker 3: Everywhere?
Speaker 1: And that kids is that a transgender child born?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The trans apocalypse.
Speaker 8: Now I think we've decoded it, all of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was awesome. Uh right, was there anything else
Speaker 5: that you that you wanted to present you get still
Speaker 5: that wasn't enough?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Everything that I got here, and yeah, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3: It was a really good conversation, and I think that
Speaker 3: a huge investigation needs to be brought against Robert Giffray.
Speaker 3: So you got Robert Giffrey, you got the last name
Speaker 3: of Virginia Roberts, you got sky Roberts, you got Daniel Wilson,
Speaker 3: you got sky Wilson Wise Williams Roberts, got sky Rocket Roberts.
Speaker 3: You got Leah sky Patrick, which was another victim of Epstein.
Speaker 3: It's just so freaking confusing. All the names are like
Speaker 3: very similar that are all involved with this stuff. But
Speaker 3: an investigation needs to be launched right now onto Robert
Speaker 3: Giffrey before it's too late and this thing in ten
Speaker 3: years turns into a Netflix documentary Did Virginia really kill herself?
Speaker 3: Or did you know what was going on?
Speaker 6: To the police led writer, it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't happen now, It's going to be a Netflix documentary
Speaker 3: in the future where nothing is going to be able
Speaker 3: to be done because there's too much time this passed
Speaker 3: in between the event, and then they're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to do anything about it because all the
Speaker 3: evidence is going to be gone and whoever did it
Speaker 3: is going to get away with it. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that Virginia's husband was the one that killed her.
Speaker 3: But whenever you read the People magazine article and she's
Speaker 3: making these statements like the next altercation that I get
Speaker 3: into it with him, I might not make it out alive. Okay,
Speaker 3: that might be the reason why she's seeing this Shuli
Speaker 3: has four days to live because she knows that he's
Speaker 3: going to kill her. It's circumstantial evidence. But the People
Speaker 3: magazine article is like, really, all that you need? You'd
Speaker 3: launch an investigation on him at least because if he
Speaker 3: wasn't responsible for her death, then he was in some way,
Speaker 3: shape or form at least involved. And we need the
Speaker 3: investigation now because the Sun article is we didn't read it,
Speaker 3: but it goes into detail that it's going to be
Speaker 3: two years until we get the coroner's report for the
Speaker 3: autopsy from Virginia.
Speaker 6: Ja frant that's ridiculous. And I say all the time writer,
Speaker 6: just to your point, because I think that's a very
Speaker 6: good point. I'm so glad that you said it. If
Speaker 6: it makes it to a Netflix documentary, it's fucked. Yeah, right,
Speaker 6: it's done. It's fucked. You got just forgetting so.
Speaker 2: For sure, Nick keeps bringing this point out. What you're
Speaker 2: describing their writer seems like what Nick often brings up.
Speaker 2: And this is kind of the design to use the
Speaker 2: whole hog effect of these events to profit off of
Speaker 2: every aspect possible. So perpetrating it through documentaries is part
Speaker 2: of the objective going into these matters. Yes, it's not
Speaker 2: an after after product, after effect.
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick. It is a it's a it's
Speaker 1: a planned I mean.
Speaker 5: The Googo Beach stuff isn't even over, and there's already documentaries.
Speaker 5: Lady that lady jumped on that shit real quick.
Speaker 2: There's maybe Brian Coburger did it documentaries and he even
Speaker 2: had trial yet he's really had hearings.
Speaker 1: Well, what did he like?
Speaker 6: That's all over Hulu right now to watch the stupid
Speaker 6: did he try once it makes it to Hulu or Netflix?
Speaker 6: Forget about it? Just forget about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One thing I do want to mention though, before we do,
Speaker 4: like finally wrap it up. I do wonder this, I
Speaker 4: guess maybe your opinions as well. I think, uh, I
Speaker 4: think just Julia definitely is probably a little bit on
Speaker 4: both with what I'm wondering about the family. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to point out the victims
Speaker 4: family because he may be innocent and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, there's some work with some
Speaker 4: weird companies and have some weird connections that I just
Speaker 4: wonder about that.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there. I don't know. Maybe the
Speaker 5: family and they were the first ones to say Her
Speaker 5: brother and her brother's.
Speaker 3: Wife were the first ones to say that, come out
Speaker 3: and say that it's one hundred percent definitely a suicide,
Speaker 3: like it's a suicide nowhere, And then later her dad
Speaker 3: comes out in this article over here, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't believe that it was a suicide, and it
Speaker 3: should be an investigation that's launched into this. I mean,
Speaker 3: just whenever you bring up the whole thing. Ever seeing
Speaker 3: on X in twenty nineteen that she would never commit suicide,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's circumstantial evidence enough in my eyes that
Speaker 3: warrants an investigation. I mean, this TMZ article right here
Speaker 3: that I brought up earlier says dad wants suicide investigated. Okay,
Speaker 3: so he doesn't believe that she committed suicide, but her
Speaker 3: family automatically ruled it a suicide. So when something is
Speaker 3: automatically ruled a suicide. If there's not a homicidal investigation,
Speaker 3: open up.
Speaker 5: It's just done.
Speaker 3: Certain. But the thing about it is is if they
Speaker 3: if it takes two years to get the corner's report,
Speaker 3: in the autopsy report, and something else shows up that
Speaker 3: confirms homicide. There's a statute of limitations on prosecution for
Speaker 3: crimes in Australia. It's one to five years in Australia, Okay,
Speaker 3: so that could be out of them. That could be Yeah,
Speaker 3: it could be out of the worm for doing an
Speaker 3: investigation or bringing any charges against somebody. If the coroner
Speaker 3: finds something other than suicide, if there's evidence homicide.
Speaker 8: Then the longer you have evidence laying around, the longer
Speaker 8: it is that you know you've got to present that evidence,
Speaker 8: and that they might not be able to do it.
Speaker 8: I mean, especially if there's biological indicators and we're not
Speaker 8: going to know for two years, so a lot of
Speaker 8: that stuff could be contaminated by the time it ever
Speaker 8: goes to trial.
Speaker 1: We exactly anyone's ever even looking for, right, I mean, and.
Speaker 3: Exactly That's what I'm trying to bring the attention to.
Speaker 3: I mean, people really need to shake and out they
Speaker 3: need to read this People magazine article. We need to
Speaker 3: get this thing. There needs to be an investigation on him.
Speaker 3: And also it's really good timing because she it's essentially
Speaker 3: proven that her injuries weren't from the bus crashers from
Speaker 3: her husband beating her, according to essentially what she's seen
Speaker 3: in a roundabout wagh in the People magazine article. So
Speaker 3: she probably already has some bruising right from the time
Speaker 3: that she died. I mean, she doesn't really look like
Speaker 3: she has any bruising in the photos after she was
Speaker 3: released from the hospital, but there could still be some
Speaker 3: residual bruising, like around her neck from maybe her husband
Speaker 3: like strangling or something. So then if that happened, then
Speaker 3: that wouldn't even be looked at as like evidence of
Speaker 3: a homicide. That would be looked at like injuries that
Speaker 3: happened three weeks before from whenever she was in the hospital. Okay,
Speaker 3: So it's perfect timing. They got her at the at
Speaker 3: the at the perfect time, and I think that there
Speaker 3: needs to be and at least the homicide investigation at least,
Speaker 3: you know, cover your your p's and q's on this
Speaker 3: thing so it doesn't become a like I was mentioning
Speaker 3: Hulu or a Netflix documentary in the future where it's
Speaker 3: all nothing but speculation and theories, and you have the
Speaker 3: police officers on there. They're interviewing the police officers, and
Speaker 3: the police officers are like, oh, ye, I had more evidence,
Speaker 3: but we didn't follow up on it than the interview
Speaker 3: as well. What about the autopsy? What was it the
Speaker 3: autopsy performed, but what about her husband beating her earlier
Speaker 3: in the year of twenty twenty five before she died.
Speaker 3: Oh well, we didn't look into that. We didn't think
Speaker 3: that that was relevant. That's what it's going to be
Speaker 3: if it happens. What is going to be.
Speaker 6: Agreed?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well said, And.
Speaker 8: You know what, this is possible because that guy who
Speaker 8: just got marked by Peter Thield now not Peter Thiel's
Speaker 8: what was it. It was the open AI. He's getting
Speaker 8: his whistle blow, the whistleblowers getting his autopsy. So things
Speaker 8: can't move in the right direction on these things. So
Speaker 8: they're not going to be able to claim that that
Speaker 8: was a suicide like they wanted to really badly.
Speaker 1: Right, they did declared to suicide initially, right.
Speaker 8: Right, But now they got an independent autopsy and it's
Speaker 8: open and shutcase.
Speaker 5: All right, Uh writer, why don't let everybody know just
Speaker 5: in case where they can finally you working in.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thanks for having me on you guys really
Speaker 3: appreciate it. It was a great conversation.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, always.
Speaker 3: Input, I love it. I have to get you try
Speaker 3: and get you all on on my show sometime in
Speaker 3: the future. Let's do a roundtable on my show. If
Speaker 3: you guys want to hell you're interesting. You can find
Speaker 3: me on Raised by Giants, on YouTube and then you know,
Speaker 3: all podcast platforms. If you'd like to reach out to
Speaker 3: me personally, you can find me on x Raised by
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Speaker 3: really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You great stuff. Appreciate you for sure time.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, and I will have If I don't have
Speaker 4: a rider's it may if actually I think I have
Speaker 4: everybody's I'm not sure. But if there's any links that
Speaker 4: I didn't forget that I forgot, they will be down
Speaker 4: there now. But they should be down there. Uh so yeah,
Speaker 4: definitely go check out everybody's work a writer. Like I
Speaker 4: said before, anytime you have a topic, you're always welcome
Speaker 4: on It's always great, always love your work. Again, Julia
Speaker 4: Headless and JJ, thank you so much for joining the show.
Speaker 4: It was an awesome chat and I knew it will
Speaker 4: be with you all here, and thank you the chat.
Speaker 4: The chat was great, It was awesome. There was a
Speaker 4: lot of great stuff in there, so a lot of
Speaker 4: the same names and on some new ones. So thank
Speaker 4: you very much for jumping on. And that is the
Speaker 4: end of another Recult Rejects and until the next one,
Speaker 4: everybody be well.
Speaker 1: Later