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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to the show. Hope twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six has been treating you good. Got some new stuff
Speaker 2: for us to discuss today, and it's actually well, I
Speaker 2: guess I say this about every episode, but it's really
Speaker 2: fucking interesting and you guys are never gonna believe it.
Speaker 2: But before we jump right in to the topic, little
Speaker 2: housekeeping here, I got so that bitch that I follow
Speaker 2: on Facebook that recommends the documentaries.
Speaker 4: I wanted to like her so much.
Speaker 2: That's how I found that documentary about the fucking dude
Speaker 2: that was buried under.
Speaker 4: His house for fifty five years.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I watched a couple other ones that she recommended,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, this spitch is awesome. She's
Speaker 2: found all these documentaries and I don't even have to
Speaker 2: search for new stuff anymore. I can just, you know,
Speaker 2: go off her recommendations because it seems like we're into
Speaker 2: the same stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, fuck you, and I disrespect you for this.
Speaker 2: She recommended this documentary right it's called Horror in the
Speaker 2: High Desert, and I was.
Speaker 4: Like, ooh, the way she set it up and like.
Speaker 2: Described it, it sounded amazing and I was actually gonna
Speaker 2: cover a whole episode about it because it was actually
Speaker 2: the craziest shit I had ever heard.
Speaker 4: So I got.
Speaker 2: Duped into watching this fucking fake documentary. I got almost
Speaker 2: to the end of it before I realized this was
Speaker 2: a fucking fake, fucking blair Witch app fucking it was
Speaker 2: a movie. It wasn't even a documentary that I got
Speaker 2: almost to the end before I fucking realized. I think
Speaker 2: there was like ten minutes.
Speaker 4: Of it left.
Speaker 2: Before I realized this shit ain't real. I got totally duped.
Speaker 2: And guess what, I disrespect you for that she set
Speaker 2: it up like it was some real shit. Got almost
Speaker 2: to the end of it thinking, oh my god, if
Speaker 2: this actually happened, I'm gonna shit my pants. It was
Speaker 2: a fucking blair witch ass fucking mockumentary, So fuck you.
Speaker 2: But if you want to just watch something cool, it's
Speaker 2: called Horror in the High Desert and it is on
Speaker 2: to be uh and guess what spoiler alert something she
Speaker 2: should have disclas it's not real even though the shit
Speaker 2: looks pretty real. I know a lot of people who
Speaker 2: left the theater after seeing Blair Witch thinking that was
Speaker 2: the real shit. Ever, this is the same way. But
Speaker 2: guess what, people, it's not fucking real, but a movie
Speaker 2: that you can watch that me and my husband, well,
Speaker 2: my husband actually discovered it from a podcast or something
Speaker 2: he was listening to. He watched it on his own
Speaker 2: and then said it was so good that he wanted
Speaker 2: to watch it again with me. And I'm glad that
Speaker 2: he made that decision because it was a fucking awesome movie.
Speaker 2: It's called Barbarian and it's relatively new. I think it
Speaker 2: came out within the last like year two, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's one of those ones. I think I had seen
Speaker 2: it on who and just passed right by it. I'm
Speaker 2: not even gonna tell you anything about it, because that's
Speaker 2: how I.
Speaker 4: Went into it.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not even gonna tell you anything about it.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna sit down and watch it. And I said, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: And it made the watching experience ten times better because
Speaker 2: I had absolutely no fucking clue what I was getting
Speaker 2: myself into. If you haven't seen it already, just go
Speaker 2: go to Hulu right now, Wait till nighttime. Get a
Speaker 2: glass of wine or whatever it.
Speaker 4: Is you do.
Speaker 2: Smoke a little, drink a little, whatever it is that
Speaker 2: you do at night, get some chips, sit down and
Speaker 2: watch the shit. You won't regret it. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2: I give it ten out of ten. I can't even
Speaker 2: say what it is because it'll give the movie away.
Speaker 2: I just give it ten out of ten. Okay, it
Speaker 2: was really fucking good. But while I've been like me
Speaker 2: and my husband take turns, like it's his turn, then
Speaker 2: it's my turn to pick a movie, and you know,
Speaker 2: you just with the holiday season and stuff, it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to say goodbye to the Christmas movies and
Speaker 2: shit like that because I will watch Christmas movies the
Speaker 2: entire month of December and trickle it a little bit
Speaker 2: into January even And.
Speaker 4: I hate to see him go.
Speaker 2: You know, they took the Hulu days down, and they
Speaker 2: took all the Christmas shit off Netflix and whatever. While
Speaker 2: I was in Oklahoma visiting my family. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: my sister's the same way as me. She loves Christmas movies.
Speaker 2: We watched all of them. We watched four Christmases National lampoons.
Speaker 2: We watched all of them, and it finally got to
Speaker 2: the point where it was like, what haven't we watched
Speaker 2: it this year?
Speaker 4: And I said.
Speaker 2: As a joke, I said, we haven't watched Media's Christmas
Speaker 2: yet this year. And she was like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: like media movies. I guess we could watch that. And
Speaker 2: I was joking, but yeah, I think most of the
Speaker 2: media movies are funny. Some of them suck. But she goes,
Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Perry's a sexual predator, and I said,
Speaker 2: it doesn't surprise me because it's a it's a huge
Speaker 2: black dude dressing up as a woman and involved with
Speaker 2: all these weird Christian charity stuff and he sold he
Speaker 2: sold a jetplane to that one scumbag, demon possessed guy
Speaker 2: who claims to be a pastor.
Speaker 4: Oh what's his name? What is his name? He looks
Speaker 4: like he.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely possessed by demons. I got pregnancy brain. It's
Speaker 2: probably not gonna come to me. But anyways, he's involved
Speaker 2: with all these really high up like TV preachers who
Speaker 2: are just downright scary and demonic looking, and in my opinion,
Speaker 2: he's always acted like he had a little sugar in
Speaker 2: his tank. If you know what I'm saying, because he.
Speaker 4: Has all this stuff about family values and.
Speaker 2: Crap like that in his movies, But to me, he
Speaker 2: has always come across as hiding something and maybe having
Speaker 2: a little sugar.
Speaker 4: In his tank.
Speaker 2: And he plays a woman so well that you might
Speaker 2: think it just kind of comes naturally to him. And
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry sure, he is, in my opinion no doubt
Speaker 2: a sexual predator. And he's currently facing two separate multi
Speaker 2: million dollar civil lawsuits that alleged sexual assault and harassment,
Speaker 2: and both lawsuits claim that Tyler Perry used his power
Speaker 2: and influence as a major film executive to coerce these
Speaker 2: actors into unwanted sexual encounters and advances with the promise
Speaker 2: of career advancement. The alleged incidents occurred between twenty fifteen
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one, and from what I read, he
Speaker 2: drugged them and then he raped their be holes. Heller,
Speaker 2: they got the uh hashtag Nick Reiner stinging butthole from
Speaker 2: good old Medeia. But how embarrassing to like, if you
Speaker 2: were gonna get drugged and raped in the bee hole
Speaker 2: by anybody. You got drugged and you got raped in
Speaker 2: the bee hole by hella fucking medea hallelujerer. But speaking
Speaker 2: of beehole allegations, we can go ahead and roll into
Speaker 2: the topic.
Speaker 4: Of the hour if that suits you.
Speaker 2: This this was a topic, you know, it's older in
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, something so horrific happened, and yet no
Speaker 2: one has probably heard of this fucking shit. So before
Speaker 2: we jump right in, shout out to my husband's slash
Speaker 2: potential producer depending on what mood he is and how
Speaker 2: much he likes me at the time, for bringing.
Speaker 4: The topic to my attention.
Speaker 2: And also shout out to the Brohio podcast once again
Speaker 2: for kind of covering it and doing a shitty enough
Speaker 2: job that it inspired me once again to dive deeper
Speaker 2: and bring you the full biscuits and gravy and just
Speaker 2: just a creative dinner idea out there for you guys.
Speaker 2: Since I said biscuits and gravy, that really got me salivating.
Speaker 2: You can get chicken tenders, throw them in the oven,
Speaker 2: frozen chicken tenders. We're not fucking bourgeois up in here.
Speaker 2: We're getting frozen chicken tenders. I'm not saying go out
Speaker 2: there and get Tyson or whatever. But if you can
Speaker 2: get like some good like cage free, you know, roam
Speaker 2: about whatever.
Speaker 4: They call it pasture chicken tenders. Throw those in the oven.
Speaker 2: Get you some white gravy. Some people in the North
Speaker 2: call it peppercorn gravy, which, hello, that is bizarre to me.
Speaker 2: It's white gravy. Okay, it's called country gravy. Peppercorn gravy.
Speaker 2: You guys are barbarians. Uh So you get frozen chicken
Speaker 2: tenders country gravy, and then you can do some waffles.
Speaker 2: If you're real trailer trash, just get some frozen waffles
Speaker 2: and fucking throw those bitches into a toaster or you know,
Speaker 2: the oven.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 2: And if you're wanting to be a little less Dolly
Speaker 2: Parton and more Riba, you could just make your own
Speaker 2: waffles biz quick style if you have like a little
Speaker 2: waffle maker or something, and get you some maple syrup,
Speaker 2: and then you have chicken and waffles with country gravy
Speaker 2: and a little maple syrup.
Speaker 4: That shit is delicious.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if my husband's going to listen
Speaker 2: to that episode, but if we have that for dinner
Speaker 2: one of these upcoming nights.
Speaker 4: You heard it here first on The Cosmic Beach podcast. Anyways, soap.
Speaker 2: After Dean Coral, the Candyman pedophile murderer in Houston.
Speaker 4: That I have talked about before.
Speaker 2: And before John Wayne Gacy, the pedophile murderer killer clown
Speaker 2: in Chicago, there were other cases of abuse and murder
Speaker 2: of kids in the nineteen seventies. That provides disturbing new
Speaker 2: evidence that connects all of these cases. And if you
Speaker 2: want a little light listening, if you run out of
Speaker 2: Cosmic Peach podcast episodes to listen to, you can go
Speaker 2: and find The Clown and the Candyman podcast wherever you
Speaker 2: listen to podcasts, and if you would rather watch it,
Speaker 2: it's available on Discovery Plus streaming. So the Clown and
Speaker 2: the Candyman. But we're going to connect the Candyman pedophile
Speaker 2: murderer in Houston with John Wayne Gacy, the pedo clown
Speaker 2: killer in Chicago with some new cases here. So between
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six and nineteen seventy seven in Oakland County,
Speaker 2: a prosperous suburban area near Detroit in Michigan, they were
Speaker 2: dealing with child disappearances and child murders. They ranged an
Speaker 2: age from ten to twelve years old, and the killer
Speaker 2: became known as the Oakland County child Killer, and to
Speaker 2: this day the perpetrator has never been identified. But there
Speaker 2: may be a connection between the Oakland County child Killer
Speaker 2: and a little place we are going to be talking
Speaker 2: about in very great detail today called the North Fox Island.
Speaker 2: Now it is, my opinion, one of the first, if
Speaker 2: not the first, pedophile islands. It was run as a
Speaker 2: boys camp, actually, and it was called a charitable organization
Speaker 2: under the name Brother Paul's Children's Mission, but it was
Speaker 2: in fact a child exploitation enterprise. Okay, under the disgusting,
Speaker 2: ass fucking name of Brother Paul's Children's Mission. Okay, Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Epstein is gnahing but a copycat literally copy and paste.
Speaker 4: But why, oh why.
Speaker 2: When the Epsteins stuff dropped, was no one bringing up
Speaker 2: North Fox Island?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: So many investigative narratives, including one called Children of the Snow,
Speaker 2: have explored whether the serial murders in Detroit might have
Speaker 2: certain ties to broader child abuse networks. Some researchers point
Speaker 2: to suspects and clients tied to underground child sex circles,
Speaker 2: arguing that it's unlikely that a single killer who abducted
Speaker 2: and held children would operate fully outside the Michigan pedo ecosystem,
Speaker 2: especially considering the proximity of the Oakland County child killings
Speaker 2: and this pedo island. So these boys in the Oakland
Speaker 2: County child murders or children of the Snow, whichever one,
Speaker 2: were held for days, sexually abused and smothered, then dumped
Speaker 2: randomly in the snow and left to rot. And for
Speaker 2: over forty years, someone has gotten away with the murder
Speaker 2: of these four boys.
Speaker 4: The case is still unsolved, but.
Speaker 2: We might We might be solving it today, Me and
Speaker 2: you baby right here, Cosmic Peachfuck Podcast. All right, So
Speaker 2: during this investigation, you may learn three things that we
Speaker 2: have spoken about before, and I'm gonna keep on speaking
Speaker 2: about it until you get it through your head. There's
Speaker 2: always something lurking beneath the surface of everyday life. One,
Speaker 2: money and power can make a lot of things go away.
Speaker 2: Two and there's always more to the story than what
Speaker 2: you hear in the news.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 2: Okay, hashtag twenty twenty six Nick Reiner stinging beeholes for everybody. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's a long hashtag, but that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So before we explore Peedo Island, let's take a look
Speaker 2: at the Cast Corridor in Michigan where the Snow Boys
Speaker 2: were mutilated.
Speaker 4: In the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: The Cast Corridor was well known around the Detroit area
Speaker 2: as a haven for prostitution, drugs, and child pornography. In
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties, a lot of folks moved up to
Speaker 2: the Detroit area to get jobs in auto factories, and
Speaker 2: it was a very well populated area. But they didn't
Speaker 2: have much money, and a lot of them were single
Speaker 2: parents with six, eight, you name it kids, and they
Speaker 2: couldn't supervise them while they were working. So, for lack
Speaker 2: of a better term, it was a kind of buffet
Speaker 2: for these pedophiles. Now, there was a dude, confirmed pedophile
Speaker 2: named Bob Moore who lived in the Cast Corridor in
Speaker 2: a big gass house, and he had all sort of
Speaker 2: boys just up there living with him, usually runaways. Okay,
Speaker 2: they ran away from home. The parents were never there,
Speaker 2: fucking eight nine siblings, nobody was eating, fucking they took
Speaker 2: off and here comes the Bob Moore. Right, Bob Moore,
Speaker 2: here here he shows up. Come stay with me. I
Speaker 2: got a big gass house. Come come and live with me,
Speaker 2: right and up, this street on Woodward, he rented this
Speaker 2: Bob mar He rented a place above a movie theater
Speaker 2: where he was filming child pornography and distributing it through
Speaker 2: a pornography shop. And these child predators could come in
Speaker 2: and basically look at all of his collection of child
Speaker 2: porn available. But it was off limits to just any
Speaker 2: old body, right, And so the people who worked there
Speaker 2: knew who would be buying it, and they knew who
Speaker 2: was making it, and they had this.
Speaker 4: Little club together.
Speaker 2: These groups of men were very well organized, so much
Speaker 2: so that they had a rank system and they would
Speaker 2: have fucking meetings. They had, you know, meet in person
Speaker 2: type shit going on. Obviously, this is prior to cell
Speaker 2: phones and internet, so they would meet swap boys and
Speaker 2: they called them parties.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: It is actually shocking how organized and tight enkit these
Speaker 2: pedophile rings were and are to this day, and that
Speaker 2: they were operating right under the noses of literally everyone.
Speaker 2: But I realized as I went along in this investigation
Speaker 2: that it wasn't so much that people didn't think it
Speaker 2: was happening. They didn't want to believe it was happening.
Speaker 2: And of course you got to ask yourself why weren't
Speaker 2: these guys going to jail. I know, at some point
Speaker 2: these kids had to be talking, telling fucking someone, but
Speaker 2: yet no one is going to jail. So some investigators
Speaker 2: have pointed to the likelihood of three specific pedophiles from
Speaker 2: the Cast Corridor who may have killed these boys. One
Speaker 2: turned out to be a guy named Ted Lamborghini. That's
Speaker 2: not a pseudonym, that's his real fucking last name. Probably
Speaker 2: connected to some shit, right. Ted Lamborghini a career pedophile
Speaker 2: and sexual predator. He was finally put in prison for
Speaker 2: life for molesting kids back in Detroit in the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 2: and he had never been arrested before that, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't until recently that he has been connected to the
Speaker 2: Snowboy's murders. So in the nineteen seventies, yes, they're were pedophiles,
Speaker 2: just like there are today, but there was no Internet,
Speaker 2: so they ran in groups and they were all interconnected.
Speaker 2: The Candy Man pedo killer literally told that to the
Speaker 2: police in Houston, which they did nothing with that information,
Speaker 2: and it's the same thing in Detroit. John Wayne Gacy
Speaker 2: told the police that these pedophiles run in networks, and
Speaker 2: you know what they did with that information fucking nothing,
Speaker 2: And in the Snowboy's murders, a few members of this
Speaker 2: Detroit pedophile ring extended their territory to the suburbs and
Speaker 2: was basically grab an ordinary children off the streets of
Speaker 2: Oakland County. This shit has tentacles right, it's all over
Speaker 2: the It is a bitteral net work. But besides Ted Lamborghini,
Speaker 2: there was a dude named Chris Bush that was suspected
Speaker 2: in the snowboys murders.
Speaker 4: What do we know about this guy.
Speaker 2: Well, we know that Chris Bush's father was a prominent
Speaker 2: GM executive and it was part of deep investigation into
Speaker 2: the corridor that revealed that these inner city kids living
Speaker 2: in the Cast Corridor were being serviced by a porn
Speaker 2: ring that involved some politicians and some high level GM
Speaker 2: executives and of course other upstanding members of the community.
Speaker 2: And after that information came out, a few women came forward.
Speaker 2: They described ritual abuse by pedophiles that were fucking higher
Speaker 2: ups in GM's executive management all during the mid nineteen seventies,
Speaker 2: and they were still scared of repercussions and frightened to
Speaker 2: talk after all these years. Oh, by the way, Chris
Speaker 2: Bush got epsteined quite literally before he had to face
Speaker 2: the music for the brutal murdering and raping he had
Speaker 2: been a part of.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: A Corporal Richard mcnamay was the responding officer for the
Speaker 2: Chris Bush quote unquote suicide, and according to a woman
Speaker 2: who came forward later in the investigation, this very officer
Speaker 2: sexually abused her from the ages of eight to one
Speaker 2: while patrolling her neighborhood in Bloomfield Village. So a Freedom
Speaker 2: of Information Act request was filed with Bloomfield Township to
Speaker 2: get this piece of shit's records, and then boom, we
Speaker 2: get all these documents that prove that the woman who
Speaker 2: came forward was not the only one sexually abused by
Speaker 2: a long shot. So a pedophile officer is the first
Speaker 2: person to respond to the fucking Chris Bush alleged suicide scene.
Speaker 2: The mathematical odds of that being the case are fucking astronomical, dude,
Speaker 2: especially since that officer had half an hour with only
Speaker 2: Chris Bush's supposedly dead body and Chris Bush's brother there
Speaker 2: before any backup arrived. It's kind of like a weird
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe situation. So is he dead or was he
Speaker 2: literally epsteined away somewhere, maybe to a very nearby Pedo Island, which, hello,
Speaker 2: enter Pedo Island. Now, I set all of this up
Speaker 2: for you to get to where we are now, and
Speaker 2: this is really going to be the beginning of our story.
Speaker 2: This is the story of millionaire Francis Sheldon and his
Speaker 2: role in the world of abusers and killers like Dean Coral,
Speaker 2: the pedo Candyman murderer, and John Wayne Gacy. And of
Speaker 2: course this is the story of Sheldon's Pedophile Island. So,
Speaker 2: as we've discussed so far, the four kids in the
Speaker 2: Snowboy's case were being used for child pornography before they
Speaker 2: were killed, and a child pornography ring was identified that
Speaker 2: was operating out of the Cast Corridor of Detroit.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The Cast Corridor ring was actually being financed by the
Speaker 2: same man who was behind Fox Peedo Island pornography ring. Yes,
Speaker 2: Francis Sheldon. So Francis had his fucking tentacles out, he
Speaker 2: had Peto Island, and he was financing the Cast Corridor
Speaker 2: pedophile ring. And Fox Island was billed as a vacation
Speaker 2: home for area residents of Charlavoy Michigan. But it actually
Speaker 2: instead was a multi million dollar child pornography operation. Doesn't
Speaker 2: that sound familiar, little miss Charlavoy John Beney, Hello, no
Speaker 2: record of that pageant existing outside of John Benay? Why
Speaker 2: were the Ramses always traveling to Michigan? Jesus Christ, people,
Speaker 2: somebody fucking hired me as a private investigator, I swear. Anyways,
Speaker 2: so this was an actual fucking business that Sheldon was running,
Speaker 2: a fucking pornography ring, and.
Speaker 4: They ran it through the mail, and they.
Speaker 2: Were filming this shit all over the country in basements
Speaker 2: in New York, in the Cast Corridor and of course
Speaker 2: on Fox Island, and they would send the film through
Speaker 2: the mail. And Sheldon actually recruited young boys through their
Speaker 2: parents by asking them to come to his nature camp
Speaker 2: that he called Brother Paul's Children's Mission.
Speaker 4: Sick fucker.
Speaker 2: And get this shit, it was actually a tax dodge
Speaker 2: because they were.
Speaker 4: Getting state fucking money to operate it.
Speaker 2: Hello, or I guess since we were talking about Tyler
Speaker 2: Perry earlier, Heller, what the fuck? Of course, the state's
Speaker 2: paying for the fucking peto operation, only naturally, So why
Speaker 2: is this rich guy doing this Francis Sheldon came from
Speaker 2: a well respected family with history in Michigan. People actually
Speaker 2: really liked this sick fuck in the community. He had
Speaker 2: a very prominent family and his lineage actually leads all
Speaker 2: the way up to the White House. Come on, people,
Speaker 2: it's like David Crosby all over again. We got fucking
Speaker 2: signers of the Declaration of Independence and all that shit.
Speaker 2: Fucking Francis Sheldon, right, he was a very powerful, sick,
Speaker 2: fucked up individual, But yet they all are. So let's
Speaker 2: now take a visit, if you will, to the original
Speaker 2: Pedo Island. It sits out in Lake Michigan, quiet isolated,
Speaker 2: a beautiful place, about fifteen to twenty miles off the
Speaker 2: northern Michigan shoreline. No bridges, no ferry schedules, no tourist boats.
Speaker 2: If you want to get there, you either need a boat,
Speaker 2: or you need good weather, or you need a plane.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: The island itself is beautiful in a way that almost
Speaker 2: feels suspicious. You got dense woods, rolling dunes, gorgeous crystal
Speaker 2: clear water. It really reminds me and the Brohio guys
Speaker 2: talked about this. It's like these retreats other elite scumbags
Speaker 2: go to on their little getaways Camp David Martha's vineyard,
Speaker 2: places like that. This was that kind of place. There's
Speaker 2: no town, there's no neighbors, no one accidentally wandering by.
Speaker 2: It's just you, the trees, the beaches, and miles and
Speaker 2: miles of silence. And in the middle of that island,
Speaker 2: carved right into the land was a grassy airstrip. This
Speaker 2: airstrip was long enough to land private planes on, and
Speaker 2: of course for people to come and go without asking
Speaker 2: any questions.
Speaker 4: And it is here.
Speaker 2: For several years in the nineteen seventies, groups of young
Speaker 2: boys were flown out to this very island, not with
Speaker 2: their parents and definitely not on a fucking family vacation.
Speaker 2: They were sent there by adults that they trusted, adults
Speaker 2: who promised adventure, mentorship and opportunity. And once those planes
Speaker 2: lifted off and landed on that airstrip, you and your
Speaker 2: tight little bee hole were all.
Speaker 4: On your own.
Speaker 2: You were going to be spending this summer with your
Speaker 2: twig and berries draped across Francis Sheldon's face. Now what's
Speaker 2: been said is if you do Francis, and if you
Speaker 2: looked at his resume, nothing about it, screamed monster. He
Speaker 2: was a Yale graduate, much like Stein would later be
Speaker 2: a Harvard graduate. These ivy league motherfuckers Epstein and Francis
Speaker 2: Sheldon also contributed large, large amounts of money back to
Speaker 2: their schools. And he was a fucking rock scientists, geologist, whatever.
Speaker 2: But his real interest was actually in real estate and oil.
Speaker 2: He had old Michigan money. Some would say he had
Speaker 2: fuck you, I have a private island type money, okay.
Speaker 2: And he bought Peedo Island back in the nineteen fifties
Speaker 2: and he paid about twenty thousand dollars to an elderly
Speaker 2: widow whose husband had owned it before he died, obviously,
Speaker 2: and Francis treated it like his own little private pedo sanctuary.
Speaker 2: And he his own planes. He was a pilot, and
Speaker 2: he talked openly about how the island gave him peace. Uh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about what that peace was here in
Speaker 2: just to mint it. And of course Sheldon was involved
Speaker 2: in fucking a ton of youth organizations. He did, like
Speaker 2: a Big Brothers Club type shit mentorship program, fucking charity work, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: And he was known to love kids, which you imagine that,
Speaker 2: And of course they're tight beals. And he loaded parents
Speaker 2: up with the bullshit excuse that he wanted to give
Speaker 2: the boys an experience they might not have otherwise, which
Speaker 2: he was right about that, because it's not every day
Speaker 2: you get to spend the summer with big, hairy, sweaty
Speaker 2: old dudes running train on your bee hole in the
Speaker 2: hot summer Michigan heat. So all of this, though, was
Speaker 2: supposedly part of his charitable program. He would find these
Speaker 2: poverty stricken families that had a bunch of kids like
Speaker 2: I was talking about earlier, and he would take the
Speaker 2: boys and fly them out to the island.
Speaker 4: These boys, though, thought it.
Speaker 2: Would be like an adventure, an excursion, almost like the
Speaker 2: summer of a lifetime, fucking little youth campshit. But unfortunately
Speaker 2: what they were headed for was an absolute nightmare. And
Speaker 2: ain't a wink syndrome, now tell you something. Sure, they
Speaker 2: were doing all the things on the island that boys
Speaker 2: liked to do, but there was then the caveat So yeah,
Speaker 2: they were doing fishing, and they were also doing anal fishers.
Speaker 2: They were doing digging, and they were also doing anal digging.
Speaker 2: They were running and then they were also getting train
Speaker 2: run on oh god, it's not funny. It's not funny
Speaker 2: at all. But I mean it's really really sad. So initially,
Speaker 2: you know, actually, while we're on it with the anal digging,
Speaker 2: I had this friend side Tangent. She was a home
Speaker 2: health aid nurse and she was getting paid ten dollars
Speaker 2: an hour. She had this family she worked for. She
Speaker 2: was getting paid ten dollars an hour to watch this
Speaker 2: woman's twins that had some kind of fucking syndrome, something
Speaker 2: the fuck wrong with them. And I'm not bashing handicaps here,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that had something the fuck wrong with them,
Speaker 2: and she was getting paid ten dollars an hour to
Speaker 2: feed them, bathe them, change their fucking asses, and do
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And one night she was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Charlie.
Speaker 4: In a minute. She goes and finds him.
Speaker 2: He's in the bathroom, had dropped trow gotten in the
Speaker 2: tub and was just digging in his ass, just throwing
Speaker 2: shit everywhere.
Speaker 4: This literally digging in his ask, getting.
Speaker 2: Huge clumps of fucking turns out, smearing them and throwing
Speaker 2: it all over the fucking place, shit under his nail,
Speaker 2: shit all over the place. And this my poor friend
Speaker 2: ten dollars an hour had to scrub that whole bathroom clean.
Speaker 2: This kid up put a new diaper on him, and
Speaker 2: I said, what the fuck is wrong with him that
Speaker 2: he would do that, And she said, he's an an
Speaker 2: old digger. It's a real thing, fucking look it up,
Speaker 2: anal digging. So anyways, back to the story. So initially,
Speaker 2: when you would go out there to North Fox Pedal
Speaker 2: Island for the youth camps, yeah, like I said, there
Speaker 2: was fishing, there was camping, flying in the small planes,
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that makes it dull to say,
Speaker 2: that'll be a great time for you.
Speaker 4: Gee, thanks mom and dad. It's got to be one
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 2: Worst parts that he brought the boys out to the island,
Speaker 2: not in secret, not in hiding.
Speaker 4: The parents fucking knew.
Speaker 2: The parents were very much a part of it, and
Speaker 2: even some of them paid a small fee of eighty
Speaker 2: five dollars to send their kids to this fucking camp,
Speaker 2: you know, eighty five bucks for a six day trip
Speaker 2: airfare included. But little did they know what they were
Speaker 2: really paying for. You know, it was just the thing
Speaker 2: a family would love on the surface, right to send
Speaker 2: their kid to summer camp. Where they get to do
Speaker 2: horseback riding and flying small planes and fishing and camaraderie,
Speaker 2: fellow shit, singing kumbai ya and all that shit, hanging
Speaker 2: with the boys.
Speaker 4: But that's why. And yes, I get it.
Speaker 2: This was the fucking seventies and they didn't know about
Speaker 2: Nick Reiner stinging bee holes yet.
Speaker 4: But come on, people, protect your babies.
Speaker 2: Please, these camps, these boy scout troops and shit fuck.
Speaker 4: Them, fuck them, fuck them all right.
Speaker 2: Oh you want to take my kids somewhere, You want
Speaker 2: to take my kid off somewhere for the summer.
Speaker 4: And no parents around.
Speaker 1: Fuck you.
Speaker 2: But Sheldon was smart. He was smart. Most of these
Speaker 2: boys were actually from foster homes. They were foster kids.
Speaker 2: These were troubled kids. These boys were from unstable homes,
Speaker 2: boys that were subjected to the system. And these were
Speaker 2: children that basically didn't have families, most of them. And
Speaker 2: also that was supposed to be part of the fucking
Speaker 2: charitable aspect of this shit. But Sheldon would take these impoverished,
Speaker 2: underprivileged children, and he would give them the opportunity to
Speaker 2: experience a vacation, to see what it's like to go
Speaker 2: to a fun place, to be loved, to be taken
Speaker 2: care of. And it was a charity service and that's
Speaker 2: supposed to be the beauty of all of it. But
Speaker 2: just like the devil to appear to you as an
Speaker 2: angel of light, this is literally the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 2: These boys were probably so f looking excited, and they
Speaker 2: had absolutely no idea what was in store for them.
Speaker 2: And you know, they get there, they start to settle
Speaker 2: in on North Fox Island and they realized that the
Speaker 2: mood is starting to change quickly, right, and the clothes
Speaker 2: were actually the first thing to get addressed. The kids
Speaker 2: would show up thinking everything's normal.
Speaker 4: You got your little.
Speaker 2: Suit case and your little you know, whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: you brought with you, and before you know what, the
Speaker 2: camp counselors are like, you boys are fine to just
Speaker 2: hang out in your panty drawers or actually just be
Speaker 2: just be naked.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 2: How about that, you know, take your breeches and just
Speaker 2: throw them in the lake, because we just we just
Speaker 2: hanging we just be hanging out at North Fox Island.
Speaker 4: We'd just be hanging out.
Speaker 2: So physical contact was normalized and they would say things
Speaker 2: like this is natural, this is trust, this how you grow.
Speaker 4: Then enter the photographers.
Speaker 2: There are always photographers around every second every day these
Speaker 2: boys were on the fucking island. It's like they had
Speaker 2: their own personalized film crews. Uh, they're just followed by
Speaker 2: workers with cameras and a lot of the time they'd go,
Speaker 2: you know, try to do some little fun thing that
Speaker 2: was off for the archery or swimming, or go chop
Speaker 2: down a tree in the woods, whatever, and every second
Speaker 2: there was a person behind them with the camera fucking
Speaker 2: you know, trying to get some type of little pose
Speaker 2: out of them, like, you know, strike a pose, strike
Speaker 2: a pose for the camp smile.
Speaker 4: I bet you can't do the splits a bit. You
Speaker 4: can't do the splits. Can't you do the splits for
Speaker 4: the camera?
Speaker 2: Uh? Hey, show me how you pee with your penis
Speaker 2: for the camera for the camera over here, you know, Hey,
Speaker 2: show me how how far you can spread your cheeks?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, really get in there, maybe a little pupil
Speaker 2: all out.
Speaker 4: And part of the reason why they did this.
Speaker 2: Was proof for the parents that everything was fine, and
Speaker 2: they'd send the pictures home to the families and then
Speaker 2: you know, Mom's like, oh, I don't know why his
Speaker 2: penis is out, but it looks like he's having a
Speaker 2: great time with hunting and fishing and climbing trees. Uh,
Speaker 2: he must be having so much fun. He just forgot
Speaker 2: to put his painty drawers on that day, Like, get
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: They would send home like twenty.
Speaker 2: Thirty forty fifty pictures of these kids, and not one
Speaker 2: picture a mom had some inkling of an intuition. Something
Speaker 2: wasn't fucking right. Where's my kid's breeches? Okay, why is
Speaker 2: he chopping down a tree in his panty drawers or
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck they were doing. But on an island
Speaker 2: like that, when you're totally fucking isolated, cut off and
Speaker 2: being controlled by these six son of a bitches, what
Speaker 2: feels like normal can change pretty quickly because no no
Speaker 2: one from the outside world is coming to check up
Speaker 2: on you. And that's the whole thing here is. This
Speaker 2: island is just off in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Speaker 2: There's no police, there's no coastguard, there's no boat patrol.
Speaker 2: There is literally no law enforcement oversight at all where
Speaker 2: this is going on. So when the only adults that
Speaker 2: are around you are telling you to show him how
Speaker 2: you pee with your penis and to spread your cheeks,
Speaker 2: and you know, spread Billy's cheeks for him. You just
Speaker 2: start thinking, Okay, I gotta spread Billy's cheeks for him.
Speaker 2: You know, let's show me how you can wipe each other.
Speaker 2: Show me how you can wipe each other. This is
Speaker 2: what's going on here. So most people who didn't really
Speaker 2: know what was going on just thought that Francis was
Speaker 2: just a rich guy with a weird hobby and some
Speaker 2: kind of a remote island that doubled as a summer
Speaker 2: camp and kids were having great, these great experiences that
Speaker 2: their parents couldn't normally afford, and that's the version everybody
Speaker 2: wanted to believe. And Sheldon actually worked with this other
Speaker 2: guy by the name of Jerald Richards, so he had
Speaker 2: this guy Richards, signing all of his documents and basically
Speaker 2: be kind of like his fall guy. So if anything
Speaker 2: went down, which it did, Richards would be left holding
Speaker 2: the bag because he was the one signing all this shit,
Speaker 2: and people thought that he was actually in charge, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't.
Speaker 4: Francis.
Speaker 2: Sheldon got this dude to agree to basically be a
Speaker 2: part of this and sign all the documents and shit,
Speaker 2: so Francis would have like a fall guy if people
Speaker 2: found out what was really going on about this, he
Speaker 2: could just say, oh, actually it's not me. Gerald's in
Speaker 2: charge of everything. Fucking go find Gerald. But so, Jerald
Speaker 2: Richards was described as calm, cool, collected, friendly, and supposedly as.
Speaker 4: Some kind of fucking magician. He was a gym.
Speaker 2: Teacher at a Catholic school, and he would go to
Speaker 2: birthday parties and shit, like John Wayne Gacy, these weird
Speaker 2: church events and.
Speaker 4: Do magic shows for people.
Speaker 2: If you find adult men going to children's birthday parties
Speaker 2: and dressing up doing magic shows, I don't care if
Speaker 2: they say they're fucking Spider Man or whatever, or you
Speaker 2: think you know that guy.
Speaker 4: Because he goes to your church. Hello.
Speaker 2: BTK was also a Boyscout camp leader and a church deacon.
Speaker 2: Listen to me, people, when you fight adult men getting
Speaker 2: involved with some weird fucking magic show clown shit putting
Speaker 2: on little fucking parties for kids, you need to start
Speaker 2: questioning why the fuck they're interested in that?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: But so.
Speaker 4: He was supposed to be like a great talker, and
Speaker 4: he was funny.
Speaker 2: Everybody loved him, and he did his freaking magic tricks
Speaker 2: and shit. And when the parents, when they met mister Richards.
Speaker 2: They didn't see a predator. They saw an exceptionally structured
Speaker 2: adult who understood kids. He was someone who talked about
Speaker 2: discipline and self awareness and personal growth, and he spoke
Speaker 2: in that soft, confident way that made people feel stupid
Speaker 2: for even questioning him. And he was so trusted in
Speaker 2: the community that oftentimes families would have problems, like with
Speaker 2: their teenage sons, and they'd say, oh, let's.
Speaker 4: Go talk to mister Richards.
Speaker 2: Right well, all the while he was secretly running train
Speaker 2: on all their boys at Pedo Island. So Richards understood
Speaker 2: that children who felt like they were breaking the rules
Speaker 2: might tell. So the thing is get children to believe
Speaker 2: that they're following the rules so they'll stay pretty quiet.
Speaker 2: So he confused the boys with thinking basically like getting
Speaker 2: a sweaty bee hole rub was just a bonding exercise
Speaker 2: and shit like that. They started changing the language around
Speaker 2: this stuff. So when they came home and they were like,
Speaker 2: it's kind of I felt really uncomfortable when mister Richards
Speaker 2: was doing bonding exercises with me. The parents are sitting
Speaker 2: there thinking like, oh, well, that's just personal growth, babe,
Speaker 2: It's everything's fine. You're just that's just part of personal growth.
Speaker 2: It's a bonding exercise. Never mind that the bonding exercise
Speaker 2: was mister Richards.
Speaker 4: Lubing up their kids. Be all right.
Speaker 2: So, and these pictures that were being taken of these
Speaker 2: children in compromising situations were being marketed.
Speaker 4: And sold to people whose.
Speaker 2: Names never got revealed, and they were buying the pictures
Speaker 2: of these naked young men, and that just wasn't doing
Speaker 2: it for him anymore. So the photographs became film, and
Speaker 2: then it was photographs in film that became the product
Speaker 2: of Peto Island. And some boys didn't fully understand at
Speaker 2: that time. They just knew they felt wrong, like something
Speaker 2: was wrong.
Speaker 4: Other of the boys.
Speaker 2: Were actually scared, but they didn't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: to do with that fear, and most of the adults
Speaker 2: around them reinforced the silence, and the adults would say, like,
Speaker 2: this is normal, you're overthinking it.
Speaker 4: This is what trust looks like.
Speaker 2: And basically, on the island, repetition creates reality, right, so
Speaker 2: you keep thinking like, oh, this is normal, this is normal.
Speaker 2: And that's how methodical all of it was. This was
Speaker 2: a systematic approach doing exactly what it was designed to do.
Speaker 2: The island itself wasn't just isolating the boys from the world.
Speaker 2: It was creating a product for these guys that ran
Speaker 2: the place right. And something you'll realize is that on
Speaker 2: North Fox Island, the adults did things like call nudity
Speaker 2: natural and calling touching trust building, and calling sexual acts
Speaker 2: education and growth. And they would call obedience maturity. So
Speaker 2: the boys aren't thinking like this adult is abusing me.
Speaker 2: They're thinking I'm uncomfortable, but they're telling me it's normal,
Speaker 2: and I guess I'm just the weird one. And for
Speaker 2: fucking years, this system held up, and these guys went
Speaker 2: undetected by law enforcement for literally years they were able
Speaker 2: to operate.
Speaker 4: Most boys didn't talk at all. Some tried, but.
Speaker 2: They were pretty quickly dismissed, and some just buried it
Speaker 2: in their subconscious wiped it out. But I found a clip,
Speaker 2: and I want to play this clip of a man
Speaker 2: who survived Peedo Island.
Speaker 3: We found one of the original kids who was on
Speaker 3: that island, and we found him through a mistake. He
Speaker 3: knew Francis Sheldon, Gerald Richards Dire Grossman, and he testified
Speaker 3: against them. At the age of only fifteen. He found
Speaker 3: himself in the middle of a real life conspiracy. We
Speaker 3: gave him a call and he had a lot to say.
Speaker 3: Michael is a down to earth guy, no pretensions, and
Speaker 3: he makes no bones about telling the story of what
Speaker 3: happened to him back in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: You know, I was out with my shovel twelve years old,
Speaker 1: and I come across Jerry Richards's house, who's actually a
Speaker 1: couple of blocks down. He seemed like a really nice
Speaker 1: guy and I saw this sidewalk. He gave me five bucks.
Speaker 1: He told me he was a magician and showed me
Speaker 1: a couple of magic tricks. I actually met his wife
Speaker 1: and his child and we became friends. Nothing was going
Speaker 1: on at first, and then he worked for them, and
Speaker 1: he was a school teacher, a priest, a hypnotist, a magician,
Speaker 1: a clown, and he even taught that stuff. He taught
Speaker 1: photography at the YMCA. He was teaching witchcraft at YMCA.
Speaker 1: I actually got an award that I still had to
Speaker 1: this very day. I don't know why, for WICCA, which
Speaker 1: that was kind of strange. My mother wasn't happy about
Speaker 1: that at how. She didn't want him showing me anything
Speaker 1: about WICCA and stuff and was just left it more
Speaker 1: of a mystery to me.
Speaker 3: So when Gerald Richards asked you to be his assistant
Speaker 3: in his magic act at twelve years or thirteen, who
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to do that?
Speaker 1: It was cool. I mean, I'm going to be a
Speaker 1: magician's assistant. And I actually even raised his dubs, teaching
Speaker 1: him how to be stuffed in a hat so they
Speaker 1: could pop out, you know, during a magic trick. And
Speaker 1: it just started out with you know, the hugs, you know,
Speaker 1: the squeeze is the right friend. And then you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, he was in the photography. The next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm taking pictures and stuff. They were nude pictures.
Speaker 1: A lot of it was bondage. He had the magic
Speaker 1: ropes that we'd used in our magic tricks where he
Speaker 1: would tie me up with the ropes and then I
Speaker 1: would escape from him. When we're doing magic shows. Well,
Speaker 1: he would also use those ropes doing the phoedography pictures,
Speaker 1: porn pictures, you know, coluse. He explained me, we couldn't
Speaker 1: talk about it. Then you know, it got worse. Other
Speaker 1: kids got involved and he had us taking pictures and
Speaker 1: it wasn't much longer after that started talking about his friends.
Speaker 1: They see my pictures and they wanted to meet me
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Within six months and knowing him,
Speaker 1: I was already into child prostitution. We would be either
Speaker 1: going to a church to do a magic show to
Speaker 1: where there would be a preacher or a priest or
Speaker 1: a clergyman of some sort there that you know, I
Speaker 1: would be sold to. There's places where I've had to
Speaker 1: go where there were other kids.
Speaker 3: This is the hard part for people to understand. And
Speaker 3: they're going to think whatever they're going to think. But
Speaker 3: when you're that age and then you get into something
Speaker 3: that you go, I can't tell my parents what I'm into.
Speaker 3: You're kind of in for a penny, in for a pound, right.
Speaker 1: It was so difficult because the yilt I felt. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even look my dad in the eye when I
Speaker 1: would come home, or my mom. I mean it was
Speaker 1: easier to deal with my mom, but my dad, I
Speaker 1: couldn't even really look at them.
Speaker 3: And all the while, your parents and everybody thought you
Speaker 3: were just Gerald Richards's magic show assistant.
Speaker 1: Yep, Jerry rich Or. She had everybody, dude. I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom loved the guy. My dad thought he was
Speaker 1: a little weird, but he really liked him. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody liked Jerry, all the neighbors. Nobody knew nothing about
Speaker 1: that pedophile stuff or even suspected anything like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: at twelve years old, this guy was trained to meet
Speaker 1: how to.
Speaker 3: Be you know, did you ever want to tell your parents?
Speaker 3: Do you ever want to say one day, hey, mom,
Speaker 3: guess what? No?
Speaker 1: No, No, I could never do that. I don't think
Speaker 1: I could ever went up and told him today. You
Speaker 1: would hope that your kids would. I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: if they would. When they do get older. They'll come
Speaker 1: tell you though. Yeah, they'll tell you everything when they're older,
Speaker 1: if you're close with your family.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, Michael, were you sex trafficked?
Speaker 1: For sure? That's what it was all about. I mean,
Speaker 1: particular at the Magic convention. We met up with Sheldon,
Speaker 1: and there was some sex acts during that time too.
Speaker 1: But nine out of ten out of times when we
Speaker 1: were out of town, I would literally be going to
Speaker 1: campgrounds here in Michigan and in Tennessee. Then there's the Island.
Speaker 1: I was all over the place. Now I think back
Speaker 1: a lot of really bad things happened in the Detroit area.
Speaker 3: So, Michael, how did you first meet Francis Sheldon.
Speaker 1: I guess Sheldon met up with Richard somehow through passing
Speaker 1: my pictures and other churches pictures around us through the
Speaker 1: post office. And I remember, I'm telling me all about Sheldon.
Speaker 1: All this guy's rich Y Olton Island. He's a really
Speaker 1: nice guy. And the first time I actually met Sheldon,
Speaker 1: it would either be at the campgrounds all Jerry used
Speaker 1: to have a doctor's office to in port here on
Speaker 1: where he would do like massages and stuff. But I
Speaker 1: probably call it something different today. Yeah, I met with
Speaker 1: Sheldman there before, met with him a few times and
Speaker 1: they felt comfortable enough to where Jerry wanted to introduce
Speaker 1: Sheldon to my parents. So Frank came over with Jerry
Speaker 1: and we all had dinner together, my parents and them,
Speaker 1: and Frank Shaw was telling my parents who he is
Speaker 1: and what he does.
Speaker 3: Sheldon had dinner with your parents, you Gerald, Richards Sheldonner
Speaker 3: your parents did do? Sitting there knowing what's the reality
Speaker 3: of this. People listening to this will be absolutely shocked
Speaker 3: to hear this, that you that this scenario was happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess you know, back in them days,
Speaker 1: people were more trusting. Sheldon took my entire family for
Speaker 1: a flight over the Blue Water Bridge one time. He
Speaker 1: was over for dinner and everybody got to fly in
Speaker 1: his airplane. So, oh, everybody loved Sheldon. That guy was cool.
Speaker 3: So your parents gave them permission that you could go
Speaker 3: to the island because it was a camp that was
Speaker 3: there for underprivileged boys, or to give boys a chance.
Speaker 3: How many kids were on that island? Can you recall
Speaker 3: ten to forty twenty?
Speaker 1: Well, no, there was probably six to eight of us
Speaker 1: out there. Some of the kids they didn't have no
Speaker 1: clue what these guys were about. I think they were
Speaker 1: being sculpted, bringing the island to get them all excited
Speaker 1: and stuff, and they would try grooming them. At that point,
Speaker 1: some of the kids knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 1: Those were the kids that you know to take photos with.
Speaker 1: And how old were you, Well, it all happened between
Speaker 1: the age of twelve and fifteen. I was in Ziver's
Speaker 1: training at fifteen, and when it ended, that's when the
Speaker 1: detectives came to talk to me and put the fear
Speaker 1: God in me. So he had, you know, two and
Speaker 1: a half three years to groom me. I guess that's
Speaker 1: the word we used.
Speaker 3: How did the North Fox Island fall apart?
Speaker 1: He and Eddie? And I guess they hurt Eddie Richards
Speaker 1: or Sheldon sidomized daddy, So I think that he was
Speaker 1: only eight or ninety years old, and they heard him
Speaker 1: and Eddie's mom got the police involved, and after Eddie,
Speaker 1: the police came to question me, and but the fear
Speaker 1: God in me.
Speaker 3: Here's what's really scary about what happened next. When the
Speaker 3: police questioned Michael, they didn't bring a social worker or
Speaker 3: a guidance counselor Instead, they treated him like a criminal. Now,
Speaker 3: imagine being fifteen years old. They pulled you out of
Speaker 3: the driver's ed class, put you in an empty classroom alone,
Speaker 3: and get in your face telling you you're going to
Speaker 3: jail for a life if you don't confess. Confess to
Speaker 3: what this idea Michael was complicit in the boys Camp
Speaker 3: scam surface Two years later, Gerald Richards gave interviews from prison,
Speaker 3: singing Michael's praises like he was a business partner and
Speaker 3: not a fifteen year old boy. If there's one thing
Speaker 3: I've learned about pedophiles, you can't always believe them when
Speaker 3: they tell you the kid is in on it.
Speaker 1: And the first thing I did when I got home
Speaker 1: was called Jerry Richards and told him please, Sir questioned me.
Speaker 1: That's when the whales really started turning, and it was
Speaker 1: an gun hold. Every going to arrest everybody, and everybody's
Speaker 1: going to be They're all going to jail. They gave
Speaker 1: Jerry Richards eighteen months. They let them out, the freaks go,
Speaker 1: and my dad knew all the detectives, and I think
Speaker 1: that the detectives told my dad mom something. My mom
Speaker 1: was so scared she wanted me out of her sister
Speaker 1: in laws in California. They knew that these guys were
Speaker 1: powerful that were molesting me, and that anything could happen.
Speaker 3: This was a much bigger ring with tentacles in a
Speaker 3: lot of places. But when did you realize he was
Speaker 3: attached to something much bigger?
Speaker 1: That would be in the early eighties. I got an
Speaker 1: attorney involved, and that's when I was dealing with prosecutor
Speaker 1: because he wanted to at the date shut and he
Speaker 1: said they knew where a girlsman was too, and he
Speaker 1: wanted to bring them both to justice. And that's when
Speaker 1: I started thinking. And that next three or four weeks,
Speaker 1: things just started aspiring and out of control, and I
Speaker 1: got angry. I got really angry. That's when I realized, Hey,
Speaker 1: what the hell was Yerry doing to me? And what
Speaker 1: was he doing? What was I doing? You know? I
Speaker 1: had to question myself what was going on.
Speaker 3: Over the years, Michael's desire for some kind of justice
Speaker 3: has not diminished, It's only grown. Just like we trusted
Speaker 3: our camp counselors, we trusted the institutions and charities that
Speaker 3: received state funds to care for kids, so did Michael Farquhar,
Speaker 3: and so did his parents. Michael and the kids at
Speaker 3: that camp, like his younger friend Eddie, were carefully chosen, groomed,
Speaker 3: given perks, money, and then trapped by their own guilt
Speaker 3: and shame. And because the guy running the island was
Speaker 3: rich and influential, he got away with it. Did Gerald
Speaker 3: ever say it was sorry?
Speaker 1: No? Nobody said sorry, no, No, these sorry for what
Speaker 1: they do. We just don't understand why they do it,
Speaker 1: that's all, you know, and we're supposed to live with that.
Speaker 3: We took Michael back to North Fox Island and he
Speaker 3: went into the bunk house, which was one of the
Speaker 3: places where he was abused as you've heard Michael is
Speaker 3: very polite and soft spoken, but when he re entered
Speaker 3: that bunk house, forty years of anger surfaced.
Speaker 5: I was molested in this room. Yeah, this uh A
Speaker 5: lot bad things happen here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: There was a time that I'd burnt this whole island
Speaker 5: right to the ground, spent my whole life on and
Speaker 5: killed myself over THEE just to put the pain away,
Speaker 5: to make the memories go away. And why am I
Speaker 5: trying to remember THEE? We need to take a break, guys, yes,
Speaker 5: s no, it's starting to hallocinate.
Speaker 3: But Michael wanted to go back and face those demons,
Speaker 3: and it took a lot of courage for.
Speaker 4: Him to do that.
Speaker 3: Michael, when did you actually start to deal with what
Speaker 3: happened back then?
Speaker 1: The eighties were really scary for me when the prosecutor
Speaker 1: came to me and started talking to me about what
Speaker 1: took place in the seventies. And at that point, my
Speaker 1: first child was about to be born, and wow, remember
Speaker 1: what was going on in the seventies. It kind of
Speaker 1: messed me up. There was a time with my snific
Speaker 1: the other at the time with my first child, where
Speaker 1: she said that I was talking in my sleep all
Speaker 1: the time and fighting in my sleep. She says that
Speaker 1: I speak different languages asleep. And there was some really
Speaker 1: rough time. So I started seeing therapist and telling them
Speaker 1: the stories. They didn't believe me. I don't even think
Speaker 1: the prosecutors when I tried telling them, I think they
Speaker 1: thought I was crazy too, But it was bad. They
Speaker 1: they knew something happened with Shldon and Richards and stopping,
Speaker 1: and all of Richards was somewhat prosecuted. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even think she did two years. I think he
Speaker 1: did eighteen months.
Speaker 2: Pretty rough stuff there, and it's really really sad.
Speaker 4: But how does this story end?
Speaker 2: So on July twenty third, nineteen seventy six, Gerald Richards
Speaker 2: was finally arrested in charge with criminal sexual conduct involving
Speaker 2: a minor now on the island. These boys were made
Speaker 2: to get completely naked, forced to get an erection, and
Speaker 2: then they measured their fucking penises and told them that
Speaker 2: they were sizing them for jockstraps. And it was this
Speaker 2: one incident that finally drew the attention of police. But
Speaker 2: while police were still doing their paperwork on Richard's regarding
Speaker 2: the jockstrap measuring, something was already taking place on North
Speaker 2: Fox Island. Suddenly flights increased, files moved, and cabinets were emptied.
Speaker 4: It was a very strategic.
Speaker 2: Clean up, and the timing is very important here because
Speaker 2: when law and finally turned towards Sheldon and the island,
Speaker 2: the trail was already cooling. Richards, facing real fucking prison time,
Speaker 2: began singing like a fucking.
Speaker 4: Canary and.
Speaker 2: Started saying all this shit was actually Sheldon, and that
Speaker 2: the camp was afront and it was actually a production site,
Speaker 2: and he admitted that North Fox Island wasn't just a
Speaker 2: place where abuse happened, it was a place where abuse
Speaker 2: was manufactured. When Michigan State Police finally rated North Fox Island,
Speaker 2: expectations were extremely high. Based on witness statements alone. Investigators
Speaker 2: were expecting to find enough evidence to dismantle an entire network. Films, photographs, movies,
Speaker 2: lists of names people purchasing this child, pornography, financial records,
Speaker 2: proof of who visited the island, proof.
Speaker 4: Of who paid, and of who knew.
Speaker 2: But what they found instead was literally nothing. The buildings
Speaker 2: were there, the trails, the airstrip, but the shelves were
Speaker 2: completely empty. The cabinet's bear drawers cleaned out. Whatever had
Speaker 2: been stored there was completely gone. And that's the moment
Speaker 2: when this case turned from horrifying to infuriating, because yes, people,
Speaker 2: they got away with it. Only fucking Richards went to prison.
Speaker 2: One guy and he only served ten years. Francis Sheldon. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was charged, but he was never tried in court.
Speaker 2: He was actually declared mentally unfit.
Speaker 4: It's all in who.
Speaker 2: You know people, all right, And he left the country.
Speaker 2: He lived out his days in Amsterdam, where he died.
Speaker 2: And the buyers, the people that bought all the child pornography,
Speaker 2: they were never publicly named, they were never charged, they
Speaker 2: were never exposed for a case that produced literally thousands
Speaker 2: of images and films. The complete lack of downstream accountability
Speaker 2: is fucking sickening. There was no public outcry for these
Speaker 2: children for what they had gone through.
Speaker 4: And it's because the.
Speaker 2: People that were indulging in the material being manufactured on
Speaker 2: Pedow Island were people with a lot of fucking money.
Speaker 2: And the people that were partaking that were fucking flying
Speaker 2: to the island and abusing these children that were buying
Speaker 2: the content that was coming from this island. They were
Speaker 2: still out there and they wanted this to fucking disappear,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't change the fact that this was and
Speaker 2: probably still is a complete network. You don't produce that
Speaker 2: much child pornography material for just two fucking dudes. You
Speaker 2: don't build the infrastructure, and you don't document the abuse
Speaker 2: and distribute it without a market, and you don't clean
Speaker 2: out an island that thoroughly one man being incarcerated the
Speaker 2: other not unless you know exactly what you are protecting.
Speaker 2: It is a network of horrible ritual abuse, just like
Speaker 2: we see over and over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: But it gets covered up because the people partaking in
Speaker 2: it are fucking political socialites, people with money and people
Speaker 2: that can make this go away. And it's gonna keep
Speaker 2: fucking happening. It's never gonna stop happening as long as
Speaker 2: human being are breathing. Children and young adults are going
Speaker 2: to be sexually trafficked. And I'm sorry it's repulsive, but
Speaker 2: that is the world that we live.
Speaker 4: In to this day.
Speaker 2: North Fox Island is state owned, mostly empty and mostly overgrown.
Speaker 2: The buildings are rotting, the trails are disappearing, The airstrip
Speaker 2: is barely visible through grass and brush. Nature is just
Speaker 2: kind of naturing over there. Everyone's left the island. There's
Speaker 2: no sign that tells you what happened there. There's no memorial,
Speaker 2: there's no plaque, there's no acknowledgment whatsoever. This is something
Speaker 2: horrific that happened to a lot of young men, and
Speaker 2: there was a lot of traumatic ritual abuse and a
Speaker 2: lot of just the most horrific sexual degrading traumatic abuse
Speaker 2: that anyone could ever go through. And it all got
Speaker 2: swept under the fucking rug and everyone's names were wiped,
Speaker 2: evidence wiped, all of it just gone because naturally, politicians, financiers,
Speaker 2: people with money, people with power were the ones partaking
Speaker 2: in all of this.
Speaker 4: There were people flying in, flying out.
Speaker 2: Like there was a constant stream of these scumbags just
Speaker 2: like Lolita expressing it sexually assaulting these boys, and then
Speaker 2: leave in the island by see you next time, under
Speaker 2: no type of law enforcement watch whatsoever. So after Richard's arrest,
Speaker 2: an investigation was carried out by the Michigan State Police.
Speaker 2: Detectives discovered lar arge cachets of child pornography in Richard's
Speaker 2: car and his office, some of which was Stampton envelopes
Speaker 2: in preparation to be mailed. Also found were lists of
Speaker 2: names and addresses of customers, as well as contacts to
Speaker 2: other figures in the child pornography and prostitution business. So
Speaker 2: as part of the plea deal, Richards gave law enforcement
Speaker 2: a great deal of information in regards to the operation
Speaker 2: they were running out of North Fox. He confessed that
Speaker 2: children were flown to the island to be filmed in
Speaker 2: child pornography and that his partner, some dude named Grossman,
Speaker 2: had helped him form the mission and participated in a
Speaker 2: child orgy with himself and Sheldon at a holiday inn
Speaker 2: in Port here.
Speaker 4: On, Michigan.
Speaker 2: So three days after Richards was arrested, Sheldon's home in
Speaker 2: ann Arbor was raided by law enforcement. However, he was
Speaker 2: not present and all of his cabinets and drawers had
Speaker 2: been completely empty prior to police raiding the property.
Speaker 4: But the scale of.
Speaker 2: Abuse gets big, and it gets big fast. Eventually you
Speaker 2: start hearing the same names over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: and the more digging you do, you realize the Michigan
Speaker 2: abuse ring went from Francis Sheldon's phony fucking so called
Speaker 2: Brother Paul's Children's Mission to another phony camp funded by
Speaker 2: Sheldon in another fucking state altogether. This one was in Tennessee,
Speaker 2: a place that Francis Sheldon sponsored with his charitable donations.
Speaker 2: So he funded the Cast Corridor network. He obviously funded
Speaker 2: Pedo Island, and then he funded this fucking place in
Speaker 2: Tennessee and called it a charitable donation. It happens to
Speaker 2: be in Winchester, Tennessee, and it was a place run
Speaker 2: by a defroct priest named Bud Vermial. And while Sheldon
Speaker 2: may have escaped in nineteen seventy six, Bud Vermial wasn't
Speaker 2: so lucky. But the reason that Bud Vermial was caught
Speaker 2: in Tennessee wasn't because of Francis Sheldon in the Pedo
Speaker 2: Island bust. It was because of another ring of pedophiles
Speaker 2: who took over a boy Scout troop and used it
Speaker 2: to launder children nationwide. But that's another episode. With all
Speaker 2: of this in mind, Okay, everything that I have just
Speaker 2: presented to you about the original Pedo Island, about the
Speaker 2: pedophile networks running in the Cast Corridor, how the Candyman
Speaker 2: Peto murderer in Houston said that he was working with
Speaker 2: a network. John Wayne Gacy said he was working with
Speaker 2: a network. Obviously, the snow Boys that were killed as
Speaker 2: part of the Oakland County child murders were connected to
Speaker 2: this Pedo Island. With all of that in mind, and
Speaker 2: then later we have Jeffrey Epstein and Lolita expressing it
Speaker 2: could this go back further than we even imagined because
Speaker 2: this was in the sixties and seventies, right, But could
Speaker 2: it go back further? Is there another island we have
Speaker 2: yet to discover? And for that, I'm going to read
Speaker 2: you a synopsis from a book slash movie that came
Speaker 2: out in nineteen forty that may give us a clue
Speaker 2: as to if there could have been a older Pedo Island.
Speaker 2: Here's the little synopsis. A mysterious coachman hires Honest John
Speaker 2: to find disobedient and naughty boys for him to take
Speaker 2: to Pleasure Island, a notorious and infamous place. Honest John,
Speaker 2: despite the legal risks and the coachman's implication of what
Speaker 2: happens to the boys, accepts the job out of fear
Speaker 2: and finds Pinocchio, persuading him to take a vacation on
Speaker 2: Pleasure Island. On the way to the island, Pinocchio befriends
Speaker 2: lamp Wick, a delinquent boy at Pleasure Island without rules
Speaker 2: or authority to enforce their activity, Pinocchio, lamp Wick, and
Speaker 2: many other boys soon engage in vices such as vandalism, fighting, smoking,
Speaker 2: and drinking. Jimminy eventually finds Pinocchio in a bar smoking
Speaker 2: and playing pool with lamp Wick, and the two have
Speaker 2: a falling out after Pinocchio defends lamp Wick for his actions.
Speaker 2: As Jimmy tries leaving Pleasure Island, he discovers that the
Speaker 2: island hides a horrible curse that transforms the boys in
Speaker 2: to donkeys after making jack asses out of themselves, and
Speaker 2: they are sold by the coachman into slave labor. Pinocchio
Speaker 2: witnesses lamp Wick transform into a donkey, and with Jimmy's help,
Speaker 2: he flees before he can be fully transformed himself, though
Speaker 2: he still has a donkey's ears and tail. Upon returning home,
Speaker 2: Pinocchio and Jimminy find Geppetto's workshop deserted and obtain a
Speaker 2: letter from the Blue Faery in the form of a dove,
Speaker 2: stating that Geppetto had set out to see and search
Speaker 2: for Pinocchio on Pleasure Island. But got swallowed by a gigantic,
Speaker 2: a vicious sperm whale called Monstro. So, for those of
Speaker 2: you who have walked Pinocchio, I'm sure all of that
Speaker 2: is ringing.
Speaker 4: Nabelle, you remember the story, sure.
Speaker 2: And yes they did a live action Pinocchio featuring Tom Hanks.
Speaker 4: So it's in our faces.
Speaker 2: And uh, it's clearly obvious to me that this Pleasure Island.
Speaker 2: People are thinking that it's talking about something epsteinish, but
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you it's goes back, definitely farther
Speaker 2: than Epstein goes back, definitely farther than Francis Sheldon and
Speaker 2: North Fox Island? What island are they talking about here?
Speaker 2: Because we know Disney incorporates actual reality, fantasizes it and
Speaker 2: puts it into our face as if it we're a joke.
Speaker 2: They're laughing at us, and they've been taking our boys
Speaker 2: to Pleasure Island. This was in the forties. How long
Speaker 2: have they really been doing this shit? Where's this island?
Speaker 4: I want to know? I want to know.
Speaker 2: One day, maybe we'll find out. Before Little Saint James
Speaker 2: and before North Fox Island they were taking these boys
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I can be one hundred percent sure of that,
Speaker 2: but that's gonna do it for this episode today, Guys,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts, your feelings, your opinions, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: And just as a closing thought, this is a really
Speaker 2: really old.
Speaker 4: Cosmic Peach episode.
Speaker 2: But if you will entertain me, if you will humor me,
Speaker 2: go back, go back, back, back, back back in history. Patreon, Uh,
Speaker 2: this is for you because it was a half episode.
Speaker 2: I never published the whole episode. It was only ever
Speaker 2: available in the short version for free, and Patreon has
Speaker 2: had access to the full episode forever long.
Speaker 4: Uh, but go back and listen.
Speaker 2: Me and my cousin we talked about what could have
Speaker 2: happened to Johnny Gosh and I said, I came up
Speaker 2: with a theory, didn't have any fucking help from anybody.
Speaker 4: I put this together on my own, didn't.
Speaker 2: Hear anybody talking about it, didn't see anybody talking about it.
Speaker 4: I literally just sat there and.
Speaker 2: Almost did like a fucking detective's web of possible outcomes
Speaker 2: of where, what, how, when, and a fucking boys camp
Speaker 2: came up. I'm not gonna say anything more about it.
Speaker 2: Just go back listen to the episode. You'll see what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, what happened to Johnny Gosh or whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck I called that episode? Patreon, go do it, go now.
Speaker 2: But that's gonna do it for us, folks. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for listening, and I will catch you on
Speaker 2: the next one.
Speaker 1: I mean, at first when I heard Epstein, he was
Speaker 1: buried too for a while, you know, he got in trouble,
Speaker 1: and then I got buried. Those girls never got no justice.
Speaker 1: And this is what scares me. You know, theories, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and all these rumors that we've
Speaker 1: been caring about our government and politicians. It needs to
Speaker 1: be cleaned. It needs to be cleaned a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's we're gonna find out what this Epstein thing,
Speaker 1: just how bad it is. Yeah, it's ugly, you know what.
Speaker 1: I sent the governor a letter, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was a pretty good letter. I even had an attorney
Speaker 1: proof read it. I had another writer read it so
Speaker 1: it wasn't sounded like I was crazy or something. And
Speaker 1: I didn't even get a reply from the governor. I
Speaker 1: didn't get a reply from the state police. I didn't
Speaker 1: get a reply from the attorney general. They sit in silence.
Speaker 3: What did you say in your letter?
Speaker 1: I explained to them, you know, just like I've been
Speaker 1: saying to you today. You know, I went through different
Speaker 1: periods of my life in this this whole thing, you know,
Speaker 1: and I remember the seventies. Who wants to drag the
Speaker 1: seventies around with them today? But oh yeah, I went
Speaker 1: back there. You know, I thought that I needed to,
Speaker 1: I had to. But I get just I get so angry.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I trusted the police. They couldn't do nothing. They couldn't
Speaker 1: get these guys. They were too slick. How Come none
Speaker 1: of these guys we brought to justice? They had help,
Speaker 1: they had helped getting away, so exactly what was helping them?
Speaker 1: I never had no reason to doubt prosecutors. I mean
Speaker 1: I had no reason to doubt that they didn't do
Speaker 1: their best efforts to get justice. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: other law officials in other counties, other branches of the
Speaker 1: government stonewobbed them. They stonewobbed our community. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: there's got to be an end of this stuff. My attorney,
Speaker 1: many many years ago told me some stories are just
Speaker 1: too big to be told.
Speaker 6: MH. I'm gonna keep it on my island fund, my Island, my.
Speaker 4: Liz, I'm Ima Norma.
Speaker 2: I ain't let bar y'all trying to make any horma.
Speaker 3: I ain't lit by.
Speaker 2: With your based on yeah, like a why one man
Speaker 2: with your taphone.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just I live by. I'm gonna just I
Speaker 4: live bar. I'm gonna just.
Speaker 2: Keep one bar, you're gonna keepnack.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be staring at the side.
Speaker 6: I'm just