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<v Speaker 1>Oh better that are mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger Warner.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast may include explicit content that will take you

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<v Speaker 3>out of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 4>Listener's discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome back to the show. Hope twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six has been treating you good. Got some new stuff

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<v Speaker 2>for us to discuss today, and it's actually well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I say this about every episode, but it's really

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<v Speaker 2>fucking interesting and you guys are never gonna believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we jump right in to the topic, little

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<v Speaker 2>housekeeping here, I got so that bitch that I follow

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook that recommends the documentaries.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to like her so much.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I found that documentary about the fucking dude

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<v Speaker 2>that was buried under.

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<v Speaker 4>His house for fifty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I watched a couple other ones that she recommended,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Oh, this spitch is awesome. She's

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<v Speaker 2>found all these documentaries and I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 2>search for new stuff anymore. I can just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go off her recommendations because it seems like we're into

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<v Speaker 2>the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, fuck you, and I disrespect you for this.

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<v Speaker 2>She recommended this documentary right it's called Horror in the

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<v Speaker 2>High Desert, and I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, ooh, the way she set it up and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Described it, it sounded amazing and I was actually gonna

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<v Speaker 2>cover a whole episode about it because it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest shit I had ever heard.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Duped into watching this fucking fake documentary. I got almost

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of it before I realized this was

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking fake, fucking blair Witch app fucking it was

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. It wasn't even a documentary that I got

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<v Speaker 2>almost to the end before I fucking realized. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was like ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Of it left.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I realized this shit ain't real. I got totally duped.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, I disrespect you for that she set

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<v Speaker 2>it up like it was some real shit. Got almost

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of it thinking, oh my god, if

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<v Speaker 2>this actually happened, I'm gonna shit my pants. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking blair witch ass fucking mockumentary, So fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want to just watch something cool, it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Horror in the High Desert and it is on

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<v Speaker 2>to be uh and guess what spoiler alert something she

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<v Speaker 2>should have disclas it's not real even though the shit

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<v Speaker 2>looks pretty real. I know a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>left the theater after seeing Blair Witch thinking that was

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<v Speaker 2>the real shit. Ever, this is the same way. But

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, people, it's not fucking real, but a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that you can watch that me and my husband, well,

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<v Speaker 2>my husband actually discovered it from a podcast or something

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<v Speaker 2>he was listening to. He watched it on his own

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<v Speaker 2>and then said it was so good that he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it again with me. And I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 2>he made that decision because it was a fucking awesome movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Barbarian and it's relatively new. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>came out within the last like year two, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those ones. I think I had seen

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<v Speaker 2>it on who and just passed right by it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even gonna tell you anything about it, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I.

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<v Speaker 4>Went into it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm not even gonna tell you anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just gonna sit down and watch it. And I said, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And it made the watching experience ten times better because

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<v Speaker 2>I had absolutely no fucking clue what I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>myself into. If you haven't seen it already, just go

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<v Speaker 2>go to Hulu right now, Wait till nighttime. Get a

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<v Speaker 2>glass of wine or whatever it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Smoke a little, drink a little, whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you do at night, get some chips, sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>watch the shit. You won't regret it. It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I give it ten out of ten. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>say what it is because it'll give the movie away.

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<v Speaker 2>I just give it ten out of ten. Okay, it

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<v Speaker 2>was really fucking good. But while I've been like me

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<v Speaker 2>and my husband take turns, like it's his turn, then

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<v Speaker 2>it's my turn to pick a movie, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just with the holiday season and stuff, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to say goodbye to the Christmas movies and

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<v Speaker 2>shit like that because I will watch Christmas movies the

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<v Speaker 2>entire month of December and trickle it a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>into January even And.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate to see him go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they took the Hulu days down, and they

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<v Speaker 2>took all the Christmas shit off Netflix and whatever. While

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Oklahoma visiting my family. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>my sister's the same way as me. She loves Christmas movies.

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<v Speaker 2>We watched all of them. We watched four Christmases National lampoons.

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<v Speaker 2>We watched all of them, and it finally got to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where it was like, what haven't we watched

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<v Speaker 2>it this year?

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<v Speaker 4>And I said.

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<v Speaker 2>As a joke, I said, we haven't watched Media's Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>yet this year. And she was like, oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>like media movies. I guess we could watch that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was joking, but yeah, I think most of the

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<v Speaker 2>media movies are funny. Some of them suck. But she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Tyler Perry's a sexual predator, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't surprise me because it's a it's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>black dude dressing up as a woman and involved with

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<v Speaker 2>all these weird Christian charity stuff and he sold he

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<v Speaker 2>sold a jetplane to that one scumbag, demon possessed guy

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<v Speaker 2>who claims to be a pastor.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh what's his name? What is his name? He looks

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<v Speaker 4>like he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is absolutely possessed by demons. I got pregnancy brain. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not gonna come to me. But anyways, he's involved

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<v Speaker 2>with all these really high up like TV preachers who

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<v Speaker 2>are just downright scary and demonic looking, and in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always acted like he had a little sugar in

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<v Speaker 2>his tank. If you know what I'm saying, because he.

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<v Speaker 4>Has all this stuff about family values and.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap like that in his movies, But to me, he

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<v Speaker 2>has always come across as hiding something and maybe having

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<v Speaker 2>a little sugar.

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<v Speaker 4>In his tank.

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<v Speaker 2>And he plays a woman so well that you might

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<v Speaker 2>think it just kind of comes naturally to him. And

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Perry sure, he is, in my opinion no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>a sexual predator. And he's currently facing two separate multi

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar civil lawsuits that alleged sexual assault and harassment,

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<v Speaker 2>and both lawsuits claim that Tyler Perry used his power

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<v Speaker 2>and influence as a major film executive to coerce these

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<v Speaker 2>actors into unwanted sexual encounters and advances with the promise

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<v Speaker 2>of career advancement. The alleged incidents occurred between twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty twenty one, and from what I read, he

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<v Speaker 2>drugged them and then he raped their be holes. Heller,

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<v Speaker 2>they got the uh hashtag Nick Reiner stinging butthole from

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<v Speaker 2>good old Medeia. But how embarrassing to like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna get drugged and raped in the bee hole

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<v Speaker 2>by anybody. You got drugged and you got raped in

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<v Speaker 2>the bee hole by hella fucking medea hallelujerer. But speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of beehole allegations, we can go ahead and roll into

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<v Speaker 2>the topic.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the hour if that suits you.

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<v Speaker 2>This this was a topic, you know, it's older in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies, something so horrific happened, and yet no

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<v Speaker 2>one has probably heard of this fucking shit. So before

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<v Speaker 2>we jump right in, shout out to my husband's slash

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<v Speaker 2>potential producer depending on what mood he is and how

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<v Speaker 2>much he likes me at the time, for bringing.

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<v Speaker 4>The topic to my attention.

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<v Speaker 2>And also shout out to the Brohio podcast once again

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<v Speaker 2>for kind of covering it and doing a shitty enough

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<v Speaker 2>job that it inspired me once again to dive deeper

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<v Speaker 2>and bring you the full biscuits and gravy and just

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<v Speaker 2>just a creative dinner idea out there for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I said biscuits and gravy, that really got me salivating.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get chicken tenders, throw them in the oven,

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<v Speaker 2>frozen chicken tenders. We're not fucking bourgeois up in here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting frozen chicken tenders. I'm not saying go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and get Tyson or whatever. But if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get like some good like cage free, you know, roam

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<v Speaker 2>about whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>They call it pasture chicken tenders. Throw those in the oven.

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<v Speaker 2>Get you some white gravy. Some people in the North

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<v Speaker 2>call it peppercorn gravy, which, hello, that is bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's white gravy. Okay, it's called country gravy. Peppercorn gravy.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are barbarians. Uh So you get frozen chicken

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<v Speaker 2>tenders country gravy, and then you can do some waffles.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're real trailer trash, just get some frozen waffles

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<v Speaker 2>and fucking throw those bitches into a toaster or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the oven.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're wanting to be a little less Dolly

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<v Speaker 2>Parton and more Riba, you could just make your own

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<v Speaker 2>waffles biz quick style if you have like a little

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<v Speaker 2>waffle maker or something, and get you some maple syrup,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have chicken and waffles with country gravy

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<v Speaker 2>and a little maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 4>That shit is delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if my husband's going to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that episode, but if we have that for dinner

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<v Speaker 2>one of these upcoming nights.

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<v Speaker 4>You heard it here first on The Cosmic Beach podcast. Anyways, soap.

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<v Speaker 2>After Dean Coral, the Candyman pedophile murderer in Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>That I have talked about before.

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<v Speaker 2>And before John Wayne Gacy, the pedophile murderer killer clown

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, there were other cases of abuse and murder

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<v Speaker 2>of kids in the nineteen seventies. That provides disturbing new

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that connects all of these cases. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>want a little light listening, if you run out of

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<v Speaker 2>Cosmic Peach podcast episodes to listen to, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>and find The Clown and the Candyman podcast wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to podcasts, and if you would rather watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's available on Discovery Plus streaming. So the Clown and

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<v Speaker 2>the Candyman. But we're going to connect the Candyman pedophile

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<v Speaker 2>murderer in Houston with John Wayne Gacy, the pedo clown

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<v Speaker 2>killer in Chicago with some new cases here. So between

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy six and nineteen seventy seven in Oakland County,

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<v Speaker 2>a prosperous suburban area near Detroit in Michigan, they were

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with child disappearances and child murders. They ranged an

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<v Speaker 2>age from ten to twelve years old, and the killer

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<v Speaker 2>became known as the Oakland County child Killer, and to

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<v Speaker 2>this day the perpetrator has never been identified. But there

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<v Speaker 2>may be a connection between the Oakland County child Killer

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<v Speaker 2>and a little place we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about in very great detail today called the North Fox Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it is, my opinion, one of the first, if

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<v Speaker 2>not the first, pedophile islands. It was run as a

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<v Speaker 2>boys camp, actually, and it was called a charitable organization

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<v Speaker 2>under the name Brother Paul's Children's Mission, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>in fact a child exploitation enterprise. Okay, under the disgusting,

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<v Speaker 2>ass fucking name of Brother Paul's Children's Mission. Okay, Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein is gnahing but a copycat literally copy and paste.

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<v Speaker 4>But why, oh why.

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<v Speaker 2>When the Epsteins stuff dropped, was no one bringing up

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<v Speaker 2>So many investigative narratives, including one called Children of the Snow,

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<v Speaker 2>have explored whether the serial murders in Detroit might have

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<v Speaker 2>certain ties to broader child abuse networks. Some researchers point

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<v Speaker 2>to suspects and clients tied to underground child sex circles,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that it's unlikely that a single killer who abducted

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<v Speaker 2>and held children would operate fully outside the Michigan pedo ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 2>especially considering the proximity of the Oakland County child killings

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<v Speaker 2>and this pedo island. So these boys in the Oakland

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<v Speaker 2>County child murders or children of the Snow, whichever one,

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<v Speaker 2>were held for days, sexually abused and smothered, then dumped

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<v Speaker 2>over forty years, someone has gotten away with the murder

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<v Speaker 4>The case is still unsolved, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We might We might be solving it today, Me and

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<v Speaker 2>during this investigation, you may learn three things that we

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<v Speaker 2>always something lurking beneath the surface of everyday life. One,

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<v Speaker 2>Two and there's always more to the story than what

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<v Speaker 4>Three.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hashtag twenty twenty six Nick Reiner stinging beeholes for everybody. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a long hashtag, but that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we explore Peedo Island, let's take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Cast Corridor in Michigan where the Snow Boys

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<v Speaker 2>were mutilated.

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<v Speaker 4>In the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cast Corridor was well known around the Detroit area

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<v Speaker 2>as a haven for prostitution, drugs, and child pornography. In

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit area to get jobs in auto factories, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very well populated area. But they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have much money, and a lot of them were single

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<v Speaker 2>parents with six, eight, you name it kids, and they

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<v Speaker 2>of a better term, it was a kind of buffet

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<v Speaker 2>for these pedophiles. Now, there was a dude, confirmed pedophile

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<v Speaker 2>named Bob Moore who lived in the Cast Corridor in

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<v Speaker 2>a big gass house, and he had all sort of

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<v Speaker 2>boys just up there living with him, usually runaways. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they ran away from home. The parents were never there,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking eight nine siblings, nobody was eating, fucking they took

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<v Speaker 2>off and here comes the Bob Moore. Right, Bob Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>here here he shows up. Come stay with me. I

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<v Speaker 2>right and up, this street on Woodward, he rented this

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<v Speaker 2>Bob mar He rented a place above a movie theater

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<v Speaker 2>where he was filming child pornography and distributing it through

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<v Speaker 2>a pornography shop. And these child predators could come in

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<v Speaker 2>and basically look at all of his collection of child

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<v Speaker 2>porn available. But it was off limits to just any

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<v Speaker 2>old body, right, And so the people who worked there

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<v Speaker 2>knew who would be buying it, and they knew who

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<v Speaker 4>Little club together.

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<v Speaker 2>These groups of men were very well organized, so much

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<v Speaker 2>so that they had a rank system and they would

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<v Speaker 2>have fucking meetings. They had, you know, meet in person

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<v Speaker 2>type shit going on. Obviously, this is prior to cell

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<v Speaker 2>phones and internet, so they would meet swap boys and

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<v Speaker 2>they called them parties.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is actually shocking how organized and tight enkit these

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<v Speaker 2>pedophile rings were and are to this day, and that

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<v Speaker 2>they were operating right under the noses of literally everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But I realized as I went along in this investigation

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't so much that people didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>And of course you got to ask yourself why weren't

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<v Speaker 2>these guys going to jail. I know, at some point

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<v Speaker 2>these kids had to be talking, telling fucking someone, but

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<v Speaker 2>yet no one is going to jail. So some investigators

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<v Speaker 2>have pointed to the likelihood of three specific pedophiles from

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<v Speaker 2>the Cast Corridor who may have killed these boys. One

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<v Speaker 2>turned out to be a guy named Ted Lamborghini. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not a pseudonym, that's his real fucking last name. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>connected to some shit, right. Ted Lamborghini a career pedophile

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<v Speaker 2>and sexual predator. He was finally put in prison for

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<v Speaker 2>life for molesting kids back in Detroit in the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had never been arrested before that, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until recently that he has been connected to the

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<v Speaker 2>Snowboy's murders. So in the nineteen seventies, yes, they're were pedophiles,

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<v Speaker 2>just like there are today, but there was no Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>so they ran in groups and they were all interconnected.

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<v Speaker 2>The Candy Man pedo killer literally told that to the

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<v Speaker 2>police in Houston, which they did nothing with that information,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the same thing in Detroit. John Wayne Gacy

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<v Speaker 2>told the police that these pedophiles run in networks, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what they did with that information fucking nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>And in the Snowboy's murders, a few members of this

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit pedophile ring extended their territory to the suburbs and

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<v Speaker 2>was basically grab an ordinary children off the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>Oakland County. This shit has tentacles right, it's all over

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<v Speaker 2>the It is a bitteral net work. But besides Ted Lamborghini,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a dude named Chris Bush that was suspected

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<v Speaker 2>in the snowboys murders.

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<v Speaker 4>What do we know about this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we know that Chris Bush's father was a prominent

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<v Speaker 2>GM executive and it was part of deep investigation into

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<v Speaker 2>the corridor that revealed that these inner city kids living

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<v Speaker 2>in the Cast Corridor were being serviced by a porn

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<v Speaker 2>ring that involved some politicians and some high level GM

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<v Speaker 2>executives and of course other upstanding members of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that information came out, a few women came forward.

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<v Speaker 2>They described ritual abuse by pedophiles that were fucking higher

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<v Speaker 2>ups in GM's executive management all during the mid nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were still scared of repercussions and frightened to

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<v Speaker 2>talk after all these years. Oh, by the way, Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Bush got epsteined quite literally before he had to face

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<v Speaker 2>the music for the brutal murdering and raping he had

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A Corporal Richard mcnamay was the responding officer for the

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Bush quote unquote suicide, and according to a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who came forward later in the investigation, this very officer

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<v Speaker 2>sexually abused her from the ages of eight to one

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<v Speaker 2>while patrolling her neighborhood in Bloomfield Village. So a Freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of Information Act request was filed with Bloomfield Township to

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<v Speaker 2>get this piece of shit's records, and then boom, we

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<v Speaker 2>get all these documents that prove that the woman who

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<v Speaker 2>came forward was not the only one sexually abused by

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<v Speaker 2>a long shot. So a pedophile officer is the first

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<v Speaker 2>person to respond to the fucking Chris Bush alleged suicide scene.

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<v Speaker 2>The mathematical odds of that being the case are fucking astronomical, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since that officer had half an hour with only

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Bush's supposedly dead body and Chris Bush's brother there

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<v Speaker 2>before any backup arrived. It's kind of like a weird

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<v Speaker 2>Marilyn Monroe situation. So is he dead or was he

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<v Speaker 2>literally epsteined away somewhere, maybe to a very nearby Pedo Island, which, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>enter Pedo Island. Now, I set all of this up

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<v Speaker 2>for you to get to where we are now, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is really going to be the beginning of our story.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the story of millionaire Francis Sheldon and his

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<v Speaker 2>role in the world of abusers and killers like Dean Coral,

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<v Speaker 2>the pedo Candyman murderer, and John Wayne Gacy. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course this is the story of Sheldon's Pedophile Island. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as we've discussed so far, the four kids in the

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<v Speaker 2>Snowboy's case were being used for child pornography before they

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<v Speaker 2>were killed, and a child pornography ring was identified that

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<v Speaker 2>was operating out of the Cast Corridor of Detroit.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cast Corridor ring was actually being financed by the

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<v Speaker 2>same man who was behind Fox Peedo Island pornography ring. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Sheldon. So Francis had his fucking tentacles out, he

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<v Speaker 2>had Peto Island, and he was financing the Cast Corridor

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<v Speaker 2>pedophile ring. And Fox Island was billed as a vacation

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<v Speaker 2>home for area residents of Charlavoy Michigan. But it actually

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<v Speaker 2>instead was a multi million dollar child pornography operation. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>that sound familiar, little miss Charlavoy John Beney, Hello, no

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<v Speaker 2>record of that pageant existing outside of John Benay? Why

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<v Speaker 2>were the Ramses always traveling to Michigan? Jesus Christ, people,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody fucking hired me as a private investigator, I swear. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>so this was an actual fucking business that Sheldon was running,

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking pornography ring, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They ran it through the mail, and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were filming this shit all over the country in basements

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<v Speaker 2>in New York, in the Cast Corridor and of course

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Island, and they would send the film through

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<v Speaker 2>the mail. And Sheldon actually recruited young boys through their

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<v Speaker 2>parents by asking them to come to his nature camp

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<v Speaker 2>that he called Brother Paul's Children's Mission.

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<v Speaker 4>Sick fucker.

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<v Speaker 2>And get this shit, it was actually a tax dodge

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<v Speaker 2>because they were.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting state fucking money to operate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, or I guess since we were talking about Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>Perry earlier, Heller, what the fuck? Of course, the state's

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<v Speaker 2>paying for the fucking peto operation, only naturally, So why

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<v Speaker 2>is this rich guy doing this Francis Sheldon came from

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<v Speaker 2>a well respected family with history in Michigan. People actually

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<v Speaker 2>really liked this sick fuck in the community. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a very prominent family and his lineage actually leads all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up to the White House. Come on, people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like David Crosby all over again. We got fucking

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<v Speaker 2>signers of the Declaration of Independence and all that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking Francis Sheldon, right, he was a very powerful, sick,

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up individual, But yet they all are. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>now take a visit, if you will, to the original

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<v Speaker 2>Pedo Island. It sits out in Lake Michigan, quiet isolated,

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful place, about fifteen to twenty miles off the

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<v Speaker 2>northern Michigan shoreline. No bridges, no ferry schedules, no tourist boats.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get there, you either need a boat,

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<v Speaker 2>or you need good weather, or you need a plane.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>The island itself is beautiful in a way that almost

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<v Speaker 2>feels suspicious. You got dense woods, rolling dunes, gorgeous crystal

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<v Speaker 2>clear water. It really reminds me and the Brohio guys

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this. It's like these retreats other elite scumbags

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<v Speaker 2>go to on their little getaways Camp David Martha's vineyard,

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<v Speaker 2>places like that. This was that kind of place. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no town, there's no neighbors, no one accidentally wandering by.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you, the trees, the beaches, and miles and

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<v Speaker 2>miles of silence. And in the middle of that island,

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<v Speaker 2>carved right into the land was a grassy airstrip. This

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<v Speaker 2>airstrip was long enough to land private planes on, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course for people to come and go without asking

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<v Speaker 2>any questions.

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<v Speaker 4>And it is here.

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<v Speaker 2>For several years in the nineteen seventies, groups of young

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<v Speaker 2>boys were flown out to this very island, not with

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<v Speaker 2>their parents and definitely not on a fucking family vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>They were sent there by adults that they trusted, adults

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<v Speaker 2>who promised adventure, mentorship and opportunity. And once those planes

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<v Speaker 2>lifted off and landed on that airstrip, you and your

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<v Speaker 2>tight little bee hole were all.

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00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 4>On your own.

425
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You were going to be spending this summer with your

426
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 2>twig and berries draped across Francis Sheldon's face. Now what's

427
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 2>been said is if you do Francis, and if you

428
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>looked at his resume, nothing about it, screamed monster. He

429
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 2>was a Yale graduate, much like Stein would later be

430
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>a Harvard graduate. These ivy league motherfuckers Epstein and Francis

431
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Sheldon also contributed large, large amounts of money back to

432
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>their schools. And he was a fucking rock scientists, geologist, whatever.

433
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 2>But his real interest was actually in real estate and oil.

434
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 2>He had old Michigan money. Some would say he had

435
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>fuck you, I have a private island type money, okay.

436
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>And he bought Peedo Island back in the nineteen fifties

437
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 2>and he paid about twenty thousand dollars to an elderly

438
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>widow whose husband had owned it before he died, obviously,

439
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and Francis treated it like his own little private pedo sanctuary.

440
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 2>And he his own planes. He was a pilot, and

441
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 2>he talked openly about how the island gave him peace. Uh,

442
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk about what that peace was here in

443
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>just to mint it. And of course Sheldon was involved

444
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>in fucking a ton of youth organizations. He did, like

445
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 2>a Big Brothers Club type shit mentorship program, fucking charity work, motherfucker.

446
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And he was known to love kids, which you imagine that,

447
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 2>And of course they're tight beals. And he loaded parents

448
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>up with the bullshit excuse that he wanted to give

449
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the boys an experience they might not have otherwise, which

450
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>he was right about that, because it's not every day

451
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>you get to spend the summer with big, hairy, sweaty

452
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>old dudes running train on your bee hole in the

453
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 2>hot summer Michigan heat. So all of this, though, was

454
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>supposedly part of his charitable program. He would find these

455
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>poverty stricken families that had a bunch of kids like

456
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about earlier, and he would take the

457
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 2>boys and fly them out to the island.

458
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 4>These boys, though, thought it.

459
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Would be like an adventure, an excursion, almost like the

460
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>summer of a lifetime, fucking little youth campshit. But unfortunately

461
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>what they were headed for was an absolute nightmare. And

462
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>ain't a wink syndrome, now tell you something. Sure, they

463
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>were doing all the things on the island that boys

464
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 2>liked to do, but there was then the caveat So yeah,

465
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>they were doing fishing, and they were also doing anal fishers.

466
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>They were doing digging, and they were also doing anal digging.

467
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 2>They were running and then they were also getting train

468
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>run on oh god, it's not funny. It's not funny

469
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 2>at all. But I mean it's really really sad. So initially,

470
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, actually, while we're on it with the anal digging,

471
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I had this friend side Tangent. She was a home

472
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>health aid nurse and she was getting paid ten dollars

473
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>an hour. She had this family she worked for. She

474
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>was getting paid ten dollars an hour to watch this

475
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.360
<v Speaker 2>woman's twins that had some kind of fucking syndrome, something

476
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the fuck wrong with them. And I'm not bashing handicaps here,

477
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that had something the fuck wrong with them,

478
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and she was getting paid ten dollars an hour to

479
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 2>feed them, bathe them, change their fucking asses, and do

480
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. And one night she was like, damn,

481
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen Charlie.

482
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 4>In a minute. She goes and finds him.

483
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>He's in the bathroom, had dropped trow gotten in the

484
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>tub and was just digging in his ass, just throwing

485
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>shit everywhere.

486
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 4>This literally digging in his ask, getting.

487
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Huge clumps of fucking turns out, smearing them and throwing

488
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>it all over the fucking place, shit under his nail,

489
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 2>shit all over the place. And this my poor friend

490
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars an hour had to scrub that whole bathroom clean.

491
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>This kid up put a new diaper on him, and

492
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, what the fuck is wrong with him that

493
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he would do that, And she said, he's an an

494
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>old digger. It's a real thing, fucking look it up,

495
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>anal digging. So anyways, back to the story. So initially,

496
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>when you would go out there to North Fox Pedal

497
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Island for the youth camps, yeah, like I said, there

498
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>was fishing, there was camping, flying in the small planes,

499
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the kind of stuff that makes it dull to say,

500
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that'll be a great time for you.

501
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 4>Gee, thanks mom and dad. It's got to be one

502
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.280
<v Speaker 4>of the.

503
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Worst parts that he brought the boys out to the island,

504
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 2>not in secret, not in hiding.

505
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 4>The parents fucking knew.

506
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>The parents were very much a part of it, and

507
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 2>even some of them paid a small fee of eighty

508
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 2>five dollars to send their kids to this fucking camp,

509
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, eighty five bucks for a six day trip

510
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>airfare included. But little did they know what they were

511
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>really paying for. You know, it was just the thing

512
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a family would love on the surface, right to send

513
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>their kid to summer camp. Where they get to do

514
00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 2>horseback riding and flying small planes and fishing and camaraderie,

515
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>fellow shit, singing kumbai ya and all that shit, hanging

516
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 2>with the boys.

517
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 4>But that's why. And yes, I get it.

518
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 2>This was the fucking seventies and they didn't know about

519
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Nick Reiner stinging bee holes yet.

520
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.679
<v Speaker 4>But come on, people, protect your babies.

521
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Please, these camps, these boy scout troops and shit fuck.

522
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Them, fuck them, fuck them all right.

523
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh you want to take my kids somewhere, You want

524
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to take my kid off somewhere for the summer.

525
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 4>And no parents around.

526
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Fuck you.

527
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:54.639
<v Speaker 2>But Sheldon was smart. He was smart. Most of these

528
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 2>boys were actually from foster homes. They were foster kids.

529
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>These were troubled kids. These boys were from unstable homes,

530
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>boys that were subjected to the system. And these were

531
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>children that basically didn't have families, most of them. And

532
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 2>also that was supposed to be part of the fucking

533
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>charitable aspect of this shit. But Sheldon would take these impoverished,

534
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>underprivileged children, and he would give them the opportunity to

535
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 2>experience a vacation, to see what it's like to go

536
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>to a fun place, to be loved, to be taken

537
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 2>care of. And it was a charity service and that's

538
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be the beauty of all of it. But

539
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>just like the devil to appear to you as an

540
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 2>angel of light, this is literally the wolf in sheep's clothing.

541
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>These boys were probably so f looking excited, and they

542
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>had absolutely no idea what was in store for them.

543
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know, they get there, they start to settle

544
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>in on North Fox Island and they realized that the

545
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>mood is starting to change quickly, right, and the clothes

546
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 2>were actually the first thing to get addressed. The kids

547
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 2>would show up thinking everything's normal.

548
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 4>You got your little.

549
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Suit case and your little you know, whatever the fuck

550
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 2>you brought with you, and before you know what, the

551
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>camp counselors are like, you boys are fine to just

552
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 2>hang out in your panty drawers or actually just be

553
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 2>just be naked.

554
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 4>How about that?

555
00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 2>How about that, you know, take your breeches and just

556
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>throw them in the lake, because we just we just

557
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 2>hanging we just be hanging out at North Fox Island.

558
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:10.679
<v Speaker 4>We'd just be hanging out.

559
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So physical contact was normalized and they would say things

560
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is natural, this is trust, this how you grow.

561
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 4>Then enter the photographers.

562
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 2>There are always photographers around every second every day these

563
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>boys were on the fucking island. It's like they had

564
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 2>their own personalized film crews. Uh, they're just followed by

565
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 2>workers with cameras and a lot of the time they'd go,

566
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, try to do some little fun thing that

567
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 2>was off for the archery or swimming, or go chop

568
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>down a tree in the woods, whatever, and every second

569
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>there was a person behind them with the camera fucking

570
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to get some type of little pose

571
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 2>out of them, like, you know, strike a pose, strike

572
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 2>a pose for the camp smile.

573
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 4>I bet you can't do the splits a bit. You

574
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 4>can't do the splits. Can't you do the splits for

575
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 4>the camera?

576
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Hey, show me how you pee with your penis

577
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>for the camera for the camera over here, you know, Hey,

578
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>show me how how far you can spread your cheeks?

579
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, really get in there, maybe a little pupil

580
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 2>all out.

581
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 4>And part of the reason why they did this.

582
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Was proof for the parents that everything was fine, and

583
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>they'd send the pictures home to the families and then

584
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mom's like, oh, I don't know why his

585
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>penis is out, but it looks like he's having a

586
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 2>great time with hunting and fishing and climbing trees. Uh,

587
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 2>he must be having so much fun. He just forgot

588
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to put his painty drawers on that day, Like, get

589
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here.

590
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 4>They would send home like twenty.

591
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Thirty forty fifty pictures of these kids, and not one

592
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>picture a mom had some inkling of an intuition. Something

593
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 2>wasn't fucking right. Where's my kid's breeches? Okay, why is

594
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>he chopping down a tree in his panty drawers or

595
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck they were doing. But on an island

596
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like that, when you're totally fucking isolated, cut off and

597
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:55.679
<v Speaker 2>being controlled by these six son of a bitches, what

598
00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 2>feels like normal can change pretty quickly because no no

599
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>one from the outside world is coming to check up

600
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>on you. And that's the whole thing here is. This

601
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>island is just off in the middle of fucking nowhere.

602
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 2>There's no police, there's no coastguard, there's no boat patrol.

603
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>There is literally no law enforcement oversight at all where

604
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 2>this is going on. So when the only adults that

605
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 2>are around you are telling you to show him how

606
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>you pee with your penis and to spread your cheeks,

607
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, spread Billy's cheeks for him. You just

608
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 2>start thinking, Okay, I gotta spread Billy's cheeks for him.

609
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's show me how you can wipe each other.

610
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Show me how you can wipe each other. This is

611
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. So most people who didn't really

612
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 2>know what was going on just thought that Francis was

613
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>just a rich guy with a weird hobby and some

614
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of a remote island that doubled as a summer

615
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>camp and kids were having great, these great experiences that

616
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 2>their parents couldn't normally afford, and that's the version everybody

617
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:19.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to believe. And Sheldon actually worked with this other

618
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 2>guy by the name of Jerald Richards, so he had

619
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>this guy Richards, signing all of his documents and basically

620
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>be kind of like his fall guy. So if anything

621
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 2>went down, which it did, Richards would be left holding

622
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the bag because he was the one signing all this shit,

623
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and people thought that he was actually in charge, but

624
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't.

625
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 4>Francis.

626
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Sheldon got this dude to agree to basically be a

627
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 2>part of this and sign all the documents and shit,

628
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>so Francis would have like a fall guy if people

629
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>found out what was really going on about this, he

630
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 2>could just say, oh, actually it's not me. Gerald's in

631
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>charge of everything. Fucking go find Gerald. But so, Jerald

632
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Richards was described as calm, cool, collected, friendly, and supposedly as.

633
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Some kind of fucking magician. He was a gym.

634
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Teacher at a Catholic school, and he would go to

635
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>birthday parties and shit, like John Wayne Gacy, these weird

636
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>church events and.

637
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Do magic shows for people.

638
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>If you find adult men going to children's birthday parties

639
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and dressing up doing magic shows, I don't care if

640
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>they say they're fucking Spider Man or whatever, or you

641
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>think you know that guy.

642
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Because he goes to your church. Hello.

643
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>BTK was also a Boyscout camp leader and a church deacon.

644
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Listen to me, people, when you fight adult men getting

645
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 2>involved with some weird fucking magic show clown shit putting

646
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 2>on little fucking parties for kids, you need to start

647
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 2>questioning why the fuck they're interested in that?

648
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 4>All right?

649
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 1>But so.

650
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 4>He was supposed to be like a great talker, and

651
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 4>he was funny.

652
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Everybody loved him, and he did his freaking magic tricks

653
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and shit. And when the parents, when they met mister Richards.

654
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 2>They didn't see a predator. They saw an exceptionally structured

655
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>adult who understood kids. He was someone who talked about

656
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:48.679
<v Speaker 2>discipline and self awareness and personal growth, and he spoke

657
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in that soft, confident way that made people feel stupid

658
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 2>for even questioning him. And he was so trusted in

659
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 2>the community that oftentimes families would have problems, like with

660
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>their teenage sons, and they'd say, oh, let's.

661
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Go talk to mister Richards.

662
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Right well, all the while he was secretly running train

663
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:19.639
<v Speaker 2>on all their boys at Pedo Island. So Richards understood

664
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 2>that children who felt like they were breaking the rules

665
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:29.239
<v Speaker 2>might tell. So the thing is get children to believe

666
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:33.679
<v Speaker 2>that they're following the rules so they'll stay pretty quiet.

667
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 2>So he confused the boys with thinking basically like getting

668
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a sweaty bee hole rub was just a bonding exercise

669
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and shit like that. They started changing the language around

670
00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. So when they came home and they were like,

671
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:56.079
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of I felt really uncomfortable when mister Richards

672
00:53:56.719 --> 00:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>was doing bonding exercises with me. The parents are sitting

673
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 2>there thinking like, oh, well, that's just personal growth, babe,

674
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>It's everything's fine. You're just that's just part of personal growth.

675
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a bonding exercise. Never mind that the bonding exercise

676
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 2>was mister Richards.

677
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Lubing up their kids. Be all right.

678
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 2>So, and these pictures that were being taken of these

679
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>children in compromising situations were being marketed.

680
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 4>And sold to people whose.

681
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Names never got revealed, and they were buying the pictures

682
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>of these naked young men, and that just wasn't doing

683
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:47.400
<v Speaker 2>it for him anymore. So the photographs became film, and

684
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>then it was photographs in film that became the product

685
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of Peto Island. And some boys didn't fully understand at

686
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that time. They just knew they felt wrong, like something

687
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

688
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Other of the boys.

689
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Were actually scared, but they didn't know what the fuck

690
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 2>to do with that fear, and most of the adults

691
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:19.360
<v Speaker 2>around them reinforced the silence, and the adults would say, like,

692
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 2>this is normal, you're overthinking it.

693
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 4>This is what trust looks like.

694
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 2>And basically, on the island, repetition creates reality, right, so

695
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you keep thinking like, oh, this is normal, this is normal.

696
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's how methodical all of it was. This was

697
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a systematic approach doing exactly what it was designed to do.

698
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>The island itself wasn't just isolating the boys from the world.

699
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 2>It was creating a product for these guys that ran

700
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the place right. And something you'll realize is that on

701
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>North Fox Island, the adults did things like call nudity

702
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 2>natural and calling touching trust building, and calling sexual acts

703
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 2>education and growth. And they would call obedience maturity. So

704
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the boys aren't thinking like this adult is abusing me.

705
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.800
<v Speaker 2>They're thinking I'm uncomfortable, but they're telling me it's normal,

706
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 2>and I guess I'm just the weird one. And for

707
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.199
<v Speaker 2>fucking years, this system held up, and these guys went

708
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 2>undetected by law enforcement for literally years they were able

709
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to operate.

710
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Most boys didn't talk at all. Some tried, but.

711
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>They were pretty quickly dismissed, and some just buried it

712
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 2>in their subconscious wiped it out. But I found a clip,

713
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and I want to play this clip of a man

714
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>who survived Peedo Island.

715
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 3>We found one of the original kids who was on

716
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 3>that island, and we found him through a mistake. He

717
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.400
<v Speaker 3>knew Francis Sheldon, Gerald Richards Dire Grossman, and he testified

718
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 3>against them. At the age of only fifteen. He found

719
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>himself in the middle of a real life conspiracy. We

720
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.599
<v Speaker 3>gave him a call and he had a lot to say.

721
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Michael is a down to earth guy, no pretensions, and

722
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 3>he makes no bones about telling the story of what

723
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.519
<v Speaker 3>happened to him back in the nineteen seventies.

724
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was out with my shovel twelve years old,

725
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and I come across Jerry Richards's house, who's actually a

726
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 1>couple of blocks down. He seemed like a really nice

727
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>guy and I saw this sidewalk. He gave me five bucks.

728
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 1>He told me he was a magician and showed me

729
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a couple of magic tricks. I actually met his wife

730
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and his child and we became friends. Nothing was going

731
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on at first, and then he worked for them, and

732
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he was a school teacher, a priest, a hypnotist, a magician,

733
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a clown, and he even taught that stuff. He taught

734
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 1>photography at the YMCA. He was teaching witchcraft at YMCA.

735
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually got an award that I still had to

736
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>this very day. I don't know why, for WICCA, which

737
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of strange. My mother wasn't happy about

738
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that at how. She didn't want him showing me anything

739
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.239
<v Speaker 1>about WICCA and stuff and was just left it more

740
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of a mystery to me.

741
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 3>So when Gerald Richards asked you to be his assistant

742
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 3>in his magic act at twelve years or thirteen, who

743
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want to do that?

744
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 1>It was cool. I mean, I'm going to be a

745
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>magician's assistant. And I actually even raised his dubs, teaching

746
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 1>him how to be stuffed in a hat so they

747
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 1>could pop out, you know, during a magic trick. And

748
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 1>it just started out with you know, the hugs, you know,

749
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.159
<v Speaker 1>the squeeze is the right friend. And then you know,

750
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, he was in the photography. The next thing,

751
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm taking pictures and stuff. They were nude pictures.

752
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it was bondage. He had the magic

753
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 1>ropes that we'd used in our magic tricks where he

754
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>would tie me up with the ropes and then I

755
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>would escape from him. When we're doing magic shows. Well,

756
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he would also use those ropes doing the phoedography pictures,

757
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>porn pictures, you know, coluse. He explained me, we couldn't

758
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. Then you know, it got worse. Other

759
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>kids got involved and he had us taking pictures and

760
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't much longer after that started talking about his friends.

761
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 1>They see my pictures and they wanted to meet me

762
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Within six months and knowing him,

763
00:59:56.159 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I was already into child prostitution. We would be either

764
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 1>going to a church to do a magic show to

765
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.119
<v Speaker 1>where there would be a preacher or a priest or

766
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 1>a clergyman of some sort there that you know, I

767
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 1>would be sold to. There's places where I've had to

768
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:21.760
<v Speaker 1>go where there were other kids.

769
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 3>This is the hard part for people to understand. And

770
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.119
<v Speaker 3>they're going to think whatever they're going to think. But

771
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.800
<v Speaker 3>when you're that age and then you get into something

772
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 3>that you go, I can't tell my parents what I'm into.

773
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.400
<v Speaker 3>You're kind of in for a penny, in for a pound, right.

774
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It was so difficult because the yilt I felt. I

775
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even look my dad in the eye when I

776
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.239
<v Speaker 1>would come home, or my mom. I mean it was

777
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:48.920
<v Speaker 1>easier to deal with my mom, but my dad, I

778
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:50.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even really look at them.

779
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 3>And all the while, your parents and everybody thought you

780
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 3>were just Gerald Richards's magic show assistant.

781
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Jerry rich Or. She had everybody, dude. I mean,

782
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>my mom loved the guy. My dad thought he was

783
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a little weird, but he really liked him. I mean,

784
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 1>everybody liked Jerry, all the neighbors. Nobody knew nothing about

785
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that pedophile stuff or even suspected anything like that. I mean,

786
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 1>at twelve years old, this guy was trained to meet

787
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 1>how to.

788
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 3>Be you know, did you ever want to tell your parents?

789
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you ever want to say one day, hey, mom,

790
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 3>guess what? No?

791
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I could never do that. I don't think

792
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I could ever went up and told him today. You

793
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 1>would hope that your kids would. I'm not so sure

794
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>if they would. When they do get older. They'll come

795
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:49.039
<v Speaker 1>tell you though. Yeah, they'll tell you everything when they're older,

796
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're close with your family.

797
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

798
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 3>So, Michael, were you sex trafficked?

799
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 1>For sure? That's what it was all about. I mean,

800
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.840
<v Speaker 1>particular at the Magic convention. We met up with Sheldon,

801
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 1>and there was some sex acts during that time too.

802
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 1>But nine out of ten out of times when we

803
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 1>were out of town, I would literally be going to

804
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 1>campgrounds here in Michigan and in Tennessee. Then there's the Island.

805
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I was all over the place. Now I think back

806
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of really bad things happened in the Detroit area.

807
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:30.480
<v Speaker 3>So, Michael, how did you first meet Francis Sheldon.

808
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess Sheldon met up with Richard somehow through passing

809
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:37.800
<v Speaker 1>my pictures and other churches pictures around us through the

810
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.440
<v Speaker 1>post office. And I remember, I'm telling me all about Sheldon.

811
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:44.840
<v Speaker 1>All this guy's rich Y Olton Island. He's a really

812
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:49.119
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. And the first time I actually met Sheldon,

813
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it would either be at the campgrounds all Jerry used

814
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to have a doctor's office to in port here on

815
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:01.920
<v Speaker 1>where he would do like massages and stuff. But I

816
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:07.840
<v Speaker 1>probably call it something different today. Yeah, I met with

817
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Sheldman there before, met with him a few times and

818
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they felt comfortable enough to where Jerry wanted to introduce

819
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Sheldon to my parents. So Frank came over with Jerry

820
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 1>and we all had dinner together, my parents and them,

821
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and Frank Shaw was telling my parents who he is

822
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.039
<v Speaker 1>and what he does.

823
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Sheldon had dinner with your parents, you Gerald, Richards Sheldonner

824
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 3>your parents did do? Sitting there knowing what's the reality

825
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 3>of this. People listening to this will be absolutely shocked

826
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 3>to hear this, that you that this scenario was happening.

827
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess you know, back in them days,

828
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:59.440
<v Speaker 1>people were more trusting. Sheldon took my entire family for

829
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a flight over the Blue Water Bridge one time. He

830
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 1>was over for dinner and everybody got to fly in

831
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:09.719
<v Speaker 1>his airplane. So, oh, everybody loved Sheldon. That guy was cool.

832
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 3>So your parents gave them permission that you could go

833
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.880
<v Speaker 3>to the island because it was a camp that was

834
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 3>there for underprivileged boys, or to give boys a chance.

835
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 3>How many kids were on that island? Can you recall

836
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:25.880
<v Speaker 3>ten to forty twenty?

837
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, there was probably six to eight of us

838
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 1>out there. Some of the kids they didn't have no

839
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 1>clue what these guys were about. I think they were

840
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 1>being sculpted, bringing the island to get them all excited

841
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and they would try grooming them. At that point,

842
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 1>some of the kids knew exactly what was going on.

843
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Those were the kids that you know to take photos with.

844
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And how old were you, Well, it all happened between

845
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.159
<v Speaker 1>the age of twelve and fifteen. I was in Ziver's

846
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 1>training at fifteen, and when it ended, that's when the

847
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.719
<v Speaker 1>detectives came to talk to me and put the fear

848
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 1>God in me. So he had, you know, two and

849
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 1>a half three years to groom me. I guess that's

850
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the word we used.

851
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:14.880
<v Speaker 3>How did the North Fox Island fall apart?

852
01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:19.679
<v Speaker 1>He and Eddie? And I guess they hurt Eddie Richards

853
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:25.119
<v Speaker 1>or Sheldon sidomized daddy, So I think that he was

854
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 1>only eight or ninety years old, and they heard him

855
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and Eddie's mom got the police involved, and after Eddie,

856
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the police came to question me, and but the fear

857
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:40.400
<v Speaker 1>God in me.

858
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Here's what's really scary about what happened next. When the

859
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 3>police questioned Michael, they didn't bring a social worker or

860
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 3>a guidance counselor Instead, they treated him like a criminal. Now,

861
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.840
<v Speaker 3>imagine being fifteen years old. They pulled you out of

862
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the driver's ed class, put you in an empty classroom alone,

863
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and get in your face telling you you're going to

864
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:09.400
<v Speaker 3>jail for a life if you don't confess. Confess to

865
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:14.039
<v Speaker 3>what this idea Michael was complicit in the boys Camp

866
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:18.400
<v Speaker 3>scam surface Two years later, Gerald Richards gave interviews from prison,

867
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.159
<v Speaker 3>singing Michael's praises like he was a business partner and

868
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:25.599
<v Speaker 3>not a fifteen year old boy. If there's one thing

869
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 3>I've learned about pedophiles, you can't always believe them when

870
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 3>they tell you the kid is in on it.

871
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing I did when I got home

872
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 1>was called Jerry Richards and told him please, Sir questioned me.

873
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 1>That's when the whales really started turning, and it was

874
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 1>an gun hold. Every going to arrest everybody, and everybody's

875
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be They're all going to jail. They gave

876
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Richards eighteen months. They let them out, the freaks go,

877
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and my dad knew all the detectives, and I think

878
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 1>that the detectives told my dad mom something. My mom

879
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 1>was so scared she wanted me out of her sister

880
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.559
<v Speaker 1>in laws in California. They knew that these guys were

881
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:06.960
<v Speaker 1>powerful that were molesting me, and that anything could happen.

882
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:11.599
<v Speaker 3>This was a much bigger ring with tentacles in a

883
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 3>lot of places. But when did you realize he was

884
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 3>attached to something much bigger?

885
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 1>That would be in the early eighties. I got an

886
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:24.000
<v Speaker 1>attorney involved, and that's when I was dealing with prosecutor

887
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:29.199
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to at the date shut and he

888
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 1>said they knew where a girlsman was too, and he

889
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring them both to justice. And that's when

890
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I started thinking. And that next three or four weeks,

891
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:46.360
<v Speaker 1>things just started aspiring and out of control, and I

892
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 1>got angry. I got really angry. That's when I realized, Hey,

893
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:52.880
<v Speaker 1>what the hell was Yerry doing to me? And what

894
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.079
<v Speaker 1>was he doing? What was I doing? You know? I

895
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:57.800
<v Speaker 1>had to question myself what was going on.

896
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Over the years, Michael's desire for some kind of justice

897
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 3>has not diminished, It's only grown. Just like we trusted

898
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.640
<v Speaker 3>our camp counselors, we trusted the institutions and charities that

899
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 3>received state funds to care for kids, so did Michael Farquhar,

900
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and so did his parents. Michael and the kids at

901
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:37.000
<v Speaker 3>that camp, like his younger friend Eddie, were carefully chosen, groomed,

902
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 3>given perks, money, and then trapped by their own guilt

903
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and shame. And because the guy running the island was

904
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:51.199
<v Speaker 3>rich and influential, he got away with it. Did Gerald

905
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 3>ever say it was sorry?

906
01:08:53.319 --> 01:09:00.479
<v Speaker 1>No? Nobody said sorry, no, No, these sorry for what

907
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they do. We just don't understand why they do it,

908
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that's all, you know, and we're supposed to live with that.

909
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.920
<v Speaker 3>We took Michael back to North Fox Island and he

910
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:12.560
<v Speaker 3>went into the bunk house, which was one of the

911
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 3>places where he was abused as you've heard Michael is

912
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.439
<v Speaker 3>very polite and soft spoken, but when he re entered

913
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:24.079
<v Speaker 3>that bunk house, forty years of anger surfaced.

914
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 5>I was molested in this room. Yeah, this uh A

915
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 5>lot bad things happen here.

916
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

917
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 5>There was a time that I'd burnt this whole island

918
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:47.600
<v Speaker 5>right to the ground, spent my whole life on and

919
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:52.000
<v Speaker 5>killed myself over THEE just to put the pain away,

920
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 5>to make the memories go away. And why am I

921
01:09:55.520 --> 01:10:01.920
<v Speaker 5>trying to remember THEE? We need to take a break, guys, yes,

922
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.800
<v Speaker 5>s no, it's starting to hallocinate.

923
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.079
<v Speaker 3>But Michael wanted to go back and face those demons,

924
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:11.319
<v Speaker 3>and it took a lot of courage for.

925
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Him to do that.

926
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Michael, when did you actually start to deal with what

927
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 3>happened back then?

928
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 1>The eighties were really scary for me when the prosecutor

929
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:25.840
<v Speaker 1>came to me and started talking to me about what

930
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 1>took place in the seventies. And at that point, my

931
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 1>first child was about to be born, and wow, remember

932
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what was going on in the seventies. It kind of

933
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:51.640
<v Speaker 1>messed me up. There was a time with my snific

934
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the other at the time with my first child, where

935
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.239
<v Speaker 1>she said that I was talking in my sleep all

936
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the time and fighting in my sleep. She says that

937
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I speak different languages asleep. And there was some really

938
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 1>rough time. So I started seeing therapist and telling them

939
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the stories. They didn't believe me. I don't even think

940
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the prosecutors when I tried telling them, I think they

941
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 1>thought I was crazy too, But it was bad. They

942
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they knew something happened with Shldon and Richards and stopping,

943
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and all of Richards was somewhat prosecuted. I mean, I

944
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:37.880
<v Speaker 1>don't even think she did two years. I think he

945
01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:40.600
<v Speaker 1>did eighteen months.

946
01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Pretty rough stuff there, and it's really really sad.

947
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.880
<v Speaker 4>But how does this story end?

948
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:58.239
<v Speaker 2>So on July twenty third, nineteen seventy six, Gerald Richards

949
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:03.159
<v Speaker 2>was finally arrested in charge with criminal sexual conduct involving

950
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a minor now on the island. These boys were made

951
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to get completely naked, forced to get an erection, and

952
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 2>then they measured their fucking penises and told them that

953
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:21.479
<v Speaker 2>they were sizing them for jockstraps. And it was this

954
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 2>one incident that finally drew the attention of police. But

955
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 2>while police were still doing their paperwork on Richard's regarding

956
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the jockstrap measuring, something was already taking place on North

957
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Fox Island. Suddenly flights increased, files moved, and cabinets were emptied.

958
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a very strategic.

959
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Clean up, and the timing is very important here because

960
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 2>when law and finally turned towards Sheldon and the island,

961
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:05.439
<v Speaker 2>the trail was already cooling. Richards, facing real fucking prison time,

962
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 2>began singing like a fucking.

963
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 4>Canary and.

964
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Started saying all this shit was actually Sheldon, and that

965
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:18.479
<v Speaker 2>the camp was afront and it was actually a production site,

966
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and he admitted that North Fox Island wasn't just a

967
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:28.399
<v Speaker 2>place where abuse happened, it was a place where abuse

968
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:34.560
<v Speaker 2>was manufactured. When Michigan State Police finally rated North Fox Island,

969
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:40.479
<v Speaker 2>expectations were extremely high. Based on witness statements alone. Investigators

970
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:48.640
<v Speaker 2>were expecting to find enough evidence to dismantle an entire network. Films, photographs, movies,

971
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:54.000
<v Speaker 2>lists of names people purchasing this child, pornography, financial records,

972
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:57.199
<v Speaker 2>proof of who visited the island, proof.

973
01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Of who paid, and of who knew.

974
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:08.319
<v Speaker 2>But what they found instead was literally nothing. The buildings

975
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:13.840
<v Speaker 2>were there, the trails, the airstrip, but the shelves were

976
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:19.720
<v Speaker 2>completely empty. The cabinet's bear drawers cleaned out. Whatever had

977
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:23.840
<v Speaker 2>been stored there was completely gone. And that's the moment

978
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 2>when this case turned from horrifying to infuriating, because yes, people,

979
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 2>they got away with it. Only fucking Richards went to prison.

980
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:45.439
<v Speaker 2>One guy and he only served ten years. Francis Sheldon. Sure, yeah,

981
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he was charged, but he was never tried in court.

982
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 2>He was actually declared mentally unfit.

983
01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:55.239
<v Speaker 4>It's all in who.

984
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You know people, all right, And he left the country.

985
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He lived out his days in Amsterdam, where he died.

986
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And the buyers, the people that bought all the child pornography,

987
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they were never publicly named, they were never charged, they

988
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:19.399
<v Speaker 2>were never exposed for a case that produced literally thousands

989
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:24.680
<v Speaker 2>of images and films. The complete lack of downstream accountability

990
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 2>is fucking sickening. There was no public outcry for these

991
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 2>children for what they had gone through.

992
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:34.399
<v Speaker 4>And it's because the.

993
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:38.880
<v Speaker 2>People that were indulging in the material being manufactured on

994
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Pedow Island were people with a lot of fucking money.

995
01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:46.800
<v Speaker 2>And the people that were partaking that were fucking flying

996
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.880
<v Speaker 2>to the island and abusing these children that were buying

997
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:55.079
<v Speaker 2>the content that was coming from this island. They were

998
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:59.079
<v Speaker 2>still out there and they wanted this to fucking disappear,

999
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.520
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't change the fact that this was and

1000
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.800
<v Speaker 2>probably still is a complete network. You don't produce that

1001
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:13.119
<v Speaker 2>much child pornography material for just two fucking dudes. You

1002
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:17.880
<v Speaker 2>don't build the infrastructure, and you don't document the abuse

1003
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 2>and distribute it without a market, and you don't clean

1004
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:27.000
<v Speaker 2>out an island that thoroughly one man being incarcerated the

1005
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 2>other not unless you know exactly what you are protecting.

1006
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:38.399
<v Speaker 2>It is a network of horrible ritual abuse, just like

1007
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:41.359
<v Speaker 2>we see over and over and over and over again.

1008
01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.960
<v Speaker 2>But it gets covered up because the people partaking in

1009
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:51.119
<v Speaker 2>it are fucking political socialites, people with money and people

1010
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:54.479
<v Speaker 2>that can make this go away. And it's gonna keep

1011
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:59.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking happening. It's never gonna stop happening as long as

1012
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:04.119
<v Speaker 2>human being are breathing. Children and young adults are going

1013
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 2>to be sexually trafficked. And I'm sorry it's repulsive, but

1014
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that is the world that we live.

1015
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.439
<v Speaker 4>In to this day.

1016
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 2>North Fox Island is state owned, mostly empty and mostly overgrown.

1017
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>The buildings are rotting, the trails are disappearing, The airstrip

1018
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:29.880
<v Speaker 2>is barely visible through grass and brush. Nature is just

1019
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of naturing over there. Everyone's left the island. There's

1020
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:42.800
<v Speaker 2>no sign that tells you what happened there. There's no memorial,

1021
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:48.279
<v Speaker 2>there's no plaque, there's no acknowledgment whatsoever. This is something

1022
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.199
<v Speaker 2>horrific that happened to a lot of young men, and

1023
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of traumatic ritual abuse and a

1024
01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of just the most horrific sexual degrading traumatic abuse

1025
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that anyone could ever go through. And it all got

1026
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:09.760
<v Speaker 2>swept under the fucking rug and everyone's names were wiped,

1027
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:18.840
<v Speaker 2>evidence wiped, all of it just gone because naturally, politicians, financiers,

1028
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:23.119
<v Speaker 2>people with money, people with power were the ones partaking

1029
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in all of this.

1030
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:28.159
<v Speaker 4>There were people flying in, flying out.

1031
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Like there was a constant stream of these scumbags just

1032
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like Lolita expressing it sexually assaulting these boys, and then

1033
01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:41.600
<v Speaker 2>leave in the island by see you next time, under

1034
01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:49.800
<v Speaker 2>no type of law enforcement watch whatsoever. So after Richard's arrest,

1035
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:57.520
<v Speaker 2>an investigation was carried out by the Michigan State Police.

1036
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Detectives discovered lar arge cachets of child pornography in Richard's

1037
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:08.880
<v Speaker 2>car and his office, some of which was Stampton envelopes

1038
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in preparation to be mailed. Also found were lists of

1039
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:18.960
<v Speaker 2>names and addresses of customers, as well as contacts to

1040
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:27.000
<v Speaker 2>other figures in the child pornography and prostitution business. So

1041
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 2>as part of the plea deal, Richards gave law enforcement

1042
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:36.399
<v Speaker 2>a great deal of information in regards to the operation

1043
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 2>they were running out of North Fox. He confessed that

1044
01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:43.439
<v Speaker 2>children were flown to the island to be filmed in

1045
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>child pornography and that his partner, some dude named Grossman,

1046
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:53.119
<v Speaker 2>had helped him form the mission and participated in a

1047
01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:57.159
<v Speaker 2>child orgy with himself and Sheldon at a holiday inn

1048
01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:58.479
<v Speaker 2>in Port here.

1049
01:19:58.439 --> 01:19:59.439
<v Speaker 4>On, Michigan.

1050
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:07.800
<v Speaker 2>So three days after Richards was arrested, Sheldon's home in

1051
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:12.560
<v Speaker 2>ann Arbor was raided by law enforcement. However, he was

1052
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>not present and all of his cabinets and drawers had

1053
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:20.560
<v Speaker 2>been completely empty prior to police raiding the property.

1054
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 4>But the scale of.

1055
01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Abuse gets big, and it gets big fast. Eventually you

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01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>start hearing the same names over and over and over again,

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01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:38.439
<v Speaker 2>and the more digging you do, you realize the Michigan

1058
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 2>abuse ring went from Francis Sheldon's phony fucking so called

1059
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Brother Paul's Children's Mission to another phony camp funded by

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01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Sheldon in another fucking state altogether. This one was in Tennessee,

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01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a place that Francis Sheldon sponsored with his charitable donations.

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01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So he funded the Cast Corridor network. He obviously funded

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01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Pedo Island, and then he funded this fucking place in

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01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee and called it a charitable donation. It happens to

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01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 2>be in Winchester, Tennessee, and it was a place run

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01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:31.000
<v Speaker 2>by a defroct priest named Bud Vermial. And while Sheldon

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01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:36.039
<v Speaker 2>may have escaped in nineteen seventy six, Bud Vermial wasn't

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01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>so lucky. But the reason that Bud Vermial was caught

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01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in Tennessee wasn't because of Francis Sheldon in the Pedo

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01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Island bust. It was because of another ring of pedophiles

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01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.039
<v Speaker 2>who took over a boy Scout troop and used it

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01:21:53.079 --> 01:22:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to launder children nationwide. But that's another episode. With all

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01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:08.880
<v Speaker 2>of this in mind, Okay, everything that I have just

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01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:14.760
<v Speaker 2>presented to you about the original Pedo Island, about the

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01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>pedophile networks running in the Cast Corridor, how the Candyman

1076
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Peto murderer in Houston said that he was working with

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01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a network. John Wayne Gacy said he was working with

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01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a network. Obviously, the snow Boys that were killed as

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01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>part of the Oakland County child murders were connected to

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01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:41.000
<v Speaker 2>this Pedo Island. With all of that in mind, and

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01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:45.000
<v Speaker 2>then later we have Jeffrey Epstein and Lolita expressing it

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01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>could this go back further than we even imagined because

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01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:53.119
<v Speaker 2>this was in the sixties and seventies, right, But could

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01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.880
<v Speaker 2>it go back further? Is there another island we have

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01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>yet to discover? And for that, I'm going to read

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01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you a synopsis from a book slash movie that came

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01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:16.039
<v Speaker 2>out in nineteen forty that may give us a clue

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01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>as to if there could have been a older Pedo Island.

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01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Here's the little synopsis. A mysterious coachman hires Honest John

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01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>to find disobedient and naughty boys for him to take

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01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>to Pleasure Island, a notorious and infamous place. Honest John,

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01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:54.079
<v Speaker 2>despite the legal risks and the coachman's implication of what

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01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>happens to the boys, accepts the job out of fear

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01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and finds Pinocchio, persuading him to take a vacation on

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01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Pleasure Island. On the way to the island, Pinocchio befriends

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01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:17.279
<v Speaker 2>lamp Wick, a delinquent boy at Pleasure Island without rules

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01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>or authority to enforce their activity, Pinocchio, lamp Wick, and

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01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>many other boys soon engage in vices such as vandalism, fighting, smoking,

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01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>and drinking. Jimminy eventually finds Pinocchio in a bar smoking

1100
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:43.119
<v Speaker 2>and playing pool with lamp Wick, and the two have

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01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:48.199
<v Speaker 2>a falling out after Pinocchio defends lamp Wick for his actions.

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01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 2>As Jimmy tries leaving Pleasure Island, he discovers that the

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01:24:54.359 --> 01:25:00.079
<v Speaker 2>island hides a horrible curse that transforms the boys in

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01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to donkeys after making jack asses out of themselves, and

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01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>they are sold by the coachman into slave labor. Pinocchio

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01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:19.439
<v Speaker 2>witnesses lamp Wick transform into a donkey, and with Jimmy's help,

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01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>he flees before he can be fully transformed himself, though

1108
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>he still has a donkey's ears and tail. Upon returning home,

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01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Pinocchio and Jimminy find Geppetto's workshop deserted and obtain a

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01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:39.319
<v Speaker 2>letter from the Blue Faery in the form of a dove,

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01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>stating that Geppetto had set out to see and search

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01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:49.359
<v Speaker 2>for Pinocchio on Pleasure Island. But got swallowed by a gigantic,

1113
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>a vicious sperm whale called Monstro. So, for those of

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01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:03.720
<v Speaker 2>you who have walked Pinocchio, I'm sure all of that

1115
01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:04.760
<v Speaker 2>is ringing.

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01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Nabelle, you remember the story, sure.

1117
01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>And yes they did a live action Pinocchio featuring Tom Hanks.

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01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>So it's in our faces.

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01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And uh, it's clearly obvious to me that this Pleasure Island.

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01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>People are thinking that it's talking about something epsteinish, but

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01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to tell you it's goes back, definitely farther

1122
01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:45.560
<v Speaker 2>than Epstein goes back, definitely farther than Francis Sheldon and

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01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.159
<v Speaker 2>North Fox Island? What island are they talking about here?

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01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Because we know Disney incorporates actual reality, fantasizes it and

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01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>puts it into our face as if it we're a joke.

1126
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:05.279
<v Speaker 2>They're laughing at us, and they've been taking our boys

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01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>to Pleasure Island. This was in the forties. How long

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01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>have they really been doing this shit? Where's this island?

1129
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to know? I want to know.

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01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>One day, maybe we'll find out. Before Little Saint James

1131
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>and before North Fox Island they were taking these boys

1132
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:31.199
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. I can be one hundred percent sure of that,

1133
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>but that's gonna do it for this episode today, Guys,

1134
01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts, your feelings, your opinions, you know, I.

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01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Hope you enjoyed it.

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01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And just as a closing thought, this is a really

1137
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>really old.

1138
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Cosmic Peach episode.

1139
01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>But if you will entertain me, if you will humor me,

1140
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:04.439
<v Speaker 2>go back, go back, back, back, back back in history. Patreon, Uh,

1141
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>this is for you because it was a half episode.

1142
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I never published the whole episode. It was only ever

1143
01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>available in the short version for free, and Patreon has

1144
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:20.319
<v Speaker 2>had access to the full episode forever long.

1145
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh, but go back and listen.

1146
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Me and my cousin we talked about what could have

1147
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:33.079
<v Speaker 2>happened to Johnny Gosh and I said, I came up

1148
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>with a theory, didn't have any fucking help from anybody.

1149
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:40.279
<v Speaker 4>I put this together on my own, didn't.

1150
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Hear anybody talking about it, didn't see anybody talking about it.

1151
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:46.159
<v Speaker 4>I literally just sat there and.

1152
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Almost did like a fucking detective's web of possible outcomes

1153
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:56.439
<v Speaker 2>of where, what, how, when, and a fucking boys camp

1154
01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.479
<v Speaker 2>came up. I'm not gonna say anything more about it.

1155
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Just go back listen to the episode. You'll see what

1156
01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, what happened to Johnny Gosh or whatever the

1157
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>fuck I called that episode? Patreon, go do it, go now.

1158
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>But that's gonna do it for us, folks. Thank you

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01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:21.439
<v Speaker 2>so much for listening, and I will catch you on

1160
01:29:21.560 --> 01:29:22.359
<v Speaker 2>the next one.

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01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at first when I heard Epstein, he was

1162
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>buried too for a while, you know, he got in trouble,

1163
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and then I got buried. Those girls never got no justice.

1164
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is what scares me. You know, theories, you

1165
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and all these rumors that we've

1166
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>been caring about our government and politicians. It needs to

1167
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>be cleaned. It needs to be cleaned a lot of people.

1168
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's we're gonna find out what this Epstein thing,

1169
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>just how bad it is. Yeah, it's ugly, you know what.

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01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I sent the governor a letter, and I thought it

1171
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>was a pretty good letter. I even had an attorney

1172
01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>proof read it. I had another writer read it so

1173
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:10.479
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't sounded like I was crazy or something. And

1174
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get a reply from the governor. I

1175
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a reply from the state police. I didn't

1176
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>get a reply from the attorney general. They sit in silence.

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01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>What did you say in your letter?

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01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:29.479
<v Speaker 1>I explained to them, you know, just like I've been

1179
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>saying to you today. You know, I went through different

1180
01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>periods of my life in this this whole thing, you know,

1181
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and I remember the seventies. Who wants to drag the

1182
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>seventies around with them today? But oh yeah, I went

1183
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:46.399
<v Speaker 1>back there. You know, I thought that I needed to,

1184
01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I had to. But I get just I get so angry.

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01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I trusted the police. They couldn't do nothing. They couldn't

1187
01:30:54.119 --> 01:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>get these guys. They were too slick. How Come none

1188
01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of these guys we brought to justice? They had help,

1189
01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:08.079
<v Speaker 1>they had helped getting away, so exactly what was helping them?

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01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I never had no reason to doubt prosecutors. I mean

1191
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I had no reason to doubt that they didn't do

1192
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:24.399
<v Speaker 1>their best efforts to get justice. So with that being said,

1193
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>other law officials in other counties, other branches of the

1194
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:39.239
<v Speaker 1>government stonewobbed them. They stonewobbed our community. You know, you know,

1195
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:42.319
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be an end of this stuff. My attorney,

1196
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:45.439
<v Speaker 1>many many years ago told me some stories are just

1197
01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>too big to be told.

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01:31:47.920 --> 01:32:05.319
<v Speaker 6>MH. I'm gonna keep it on my island fund, my Island, my.

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01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Liz, I'm Ima Norma.

1200
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I ain't let bar y'all trying to make any horma.

1201
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I ain't lit by.

1202
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>With your based on yeah, like a why one man

1203
01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>with your taphone.

1204
01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna just I live by. I'm gonna just I

1205
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:31.119
<v Speaker 4>live bar. I'm gonna just.

1206
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Keep one bar, you're gonna keepnack.

1207
01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:37.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be staring at the side.

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01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm just