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your support. The question is not whether Killmore I think
that's the guy's name, is deportable. The question is to
where is he deportable? That's the question. Okay, this is
the case of the maybe maybe not not really sure,
but judge said yes, but we're not really sure. MS
thirteen gang member. Whether he should have been deported back
to El Salvador from where he is from. Did he
get due process? Should he have been deported? All of that.
Federal judge yesterday blocked the Trump administration from revoking the
legal status and work permits of more than five hundred
and thirty migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela sorry,
Nicaragua and Venezuela who flew into the United States during
Biden's time in office. So this is a separate issue
or case, I should say. But oddly enough, when you
get in front of Democrat judges, they all rule the
same way. And no, it's not because that's what the
law says. This guy who was ordered back to.
Speaker 2: L.
Speaker 1: Salvador is from L Salvador. The problem was that he
was not supposed to be sent to L. Salvador because
there was one proceeding that said he shouldn't go back
to L. Salvador. But he is deportable. That's not the question.
He is deportable. He was ordered deported, just not to L. Salvador,
but they sent him to El Salvador. And the Trump administration,
the government lawyers have said, are bad on that. We
didn't yeah, we didn't realize we sent him back to
El Salvador. And so maybe they just say, okay, you
know what, we'll send a plane down pick him up
and uh we'll uh, we'll send him to Venezuela or
to another country. Guy's name is kill Ma sorry kill Mar.
I thought it was kill Moore, a very Dickensian name.
For the story. Anyway, kill Mar Abrego Garcia. He was
an illegal alien found by the immigration courts to be
subject to removal from the United States. The courts have
already told us that he is to be removed. That's
his due process. That's the due process he went through
the courts. He has no right to return to America.
He has no right to remain in America. He was
ordered deported second all during this is the guy I
think that is the Oh he's a Maryland dad, the
Maryland man, the Maryland dad. That's how they keep referring
to this guy. But he was also allegedly part of
MS thirteen. Now I don't know how deep into MS
thirteen he was. I don't know if he's got a
whole bunch of the tear drops, you know, tattooed next
to his eyeballs or whatever. But during the removals, and
this is undisputed, Abrego Garcia was detained in the second
or during the removal proceedings, he was detained. The initial
detention was based upon a finding supported by evidence presented
that he was a member of MS thirteen, the gang.
That finding was later then upheld by the Bureau of
Immigration Appeals. That's due process. Much ink has been spilled
in the past ten days, suggesting this finding was not
supported by meaningful evidence. But it does not work that way.
This is according to a lawyer for dozens of J
six defendants. He goes on, I forget his real name,
I forgot to write it down, his his Twitter handle,
his shipwrecked crew, and he's a he's a federal lawyer,
and he's pointing out that he had a hearing. Evidence
was submitted, a determination was made by the judge, it
was appealed, it was upheld. And by the way, there
is more evidence than the public has been led to
believe because whatever happened inside that court proceeding, I don't know,
but people are being led to believe that is this.
I'm not sure was this the hairdresser, the guy who
was alleged he's just a hairdresser, he's not MS thirteen.
I think that might be the same guy. But because
I've lost track, this army of left wing lawyers has
just descended on every single deportation case that can find,
and it seems like they're picking like the worst examples
to defend. But whatever. So after the guy goes through
his seedings, right after being detained, and then he's awaiting deportation.
He and his attorneys then seek three forms of relief,
three different efforts, okay. One he sought asylum to try
to basically get the order of removal. Overturned an order
of removal much as the name would lead you to believe,
is that you are ordered to be deported. Okay, they
are ordering you out. Okay, So he tries to overturn this.
He seeks asylum. He sought protection under the Convention against
Torture or the CAAT, or as I call it, the CAT.
And third effort was withholding of removal okay. So those
are three different avenues he and his lawyers tried to
pursue in order to prevent him from being deported as
he was ordered to be. The asylum claim rejected. He
had been in the country for seven years before he
applied for asylum, so they rejected that. His claim under
the CAT under the Convention against Torture, that too was
rejected because he could not make any kind of a
factual basis in twenty nineteen that he had a fear
of torture by the Salvadoran government, So that one was
off the table, and that leads us to the third
and final effort, which was the Withholding of Removal request,
or the WOR, or as I call it, the war
that he was granted. The WOR is based on a
fear of persecution if returned to one's home country. But
while asylum grants the right to remain in the US,
the relief under the WOR is to not be returned
to your own country. But you still get deported. That's
what he won. And so the mistake here for Kilmore
kill mar Abrego Garcia, the issue here is that he
was deported to the wrong country because he went back
to his home country and he had this wo R
which said you can deport him, just not to his
home country. And the Salvadoran president, who just met with
President Donald Trump yesterday, he said, why why would I
bring him back in? Why would I try to smuggle
this guy back into your country. I'm not going to
do that. He's an he's an El Salvadoran. I don't
know if he's got charges against him down in El
Salvador or not. And also I'm not sure I believe
his story about why he fears that. You know, this
was a Barrio eighteen gang rival Salvadorn gang, a rival
gang to MS thirteen that was trying to shake his
mom down because she was selling food out of her
house and they wanted to cut overr revenue, and that
they were gonna, you know, they were gonna kill him
if she didn't pay or something was that was the claim. Again.
I don't have a lot of confidence in that claim
because after seven or eight years living illegally in America
and then throwing out all these different claims to try
to avoid deportation, failing in those claims, it seems like
this was just kind of a last ditch effort, throw
anything out there that you can see if you can
get any kind of a ruling. That was the most
favorable thing that his lawyer could get for him, which
was fine, will deport you, but pick a different country
rather than your home country. And then there's the half
a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela that
Joe Biden brought in that apparently Donald Trump is now
not allowed to get out. See you can be president.
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All right, let's jump over and talk with Michael real quick.
Hey Michael, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: HEYI doning you just tear on a mic Navy guy.
I just want to I haven't called a couple of months.
I just want to say you do have a great
show and recich show. We have people that have common
sense and like people. Forget that Big Mike's boyfriend. He
deported over two million people and people don't talk about that.
Speaker 1: And you're right on, there's about three he deported the Yeah,
Mexico called him the deporter in chief. He deported three
like three million people.
Speaker 2: Three million. Yeah, it was way up there. People don't
even talk about that. But I love how you continue
these lawyers like you say they're getting paid by chorrows
and they don't care because they're making money. That's all
they care about. But yeah, Tom, the credit Party, I mean,
I don't see how they're going to be able to exist.
But there's one they have to say. Without your show,
we have to fight every single day. I mean, I've
never seen in my lifetime help people. They just go
against Trump and Trump's playing chess, whereby playing checkers. I
love your show, and without you, I just pray to
God that that people have common sense in the next
two years and four years when they vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, so you do a great job, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, Mike, I appreciate that. Thanks for the
kind words and for listening. I appreciate it. Well. I
think that's why the audience that I have is so large.
It's because it's common sense seeing so many people have it.
Oh wait, sorry, I realized that as soon as I
started to say it. That's my bed, all right. So
a federal judge blocked Trump's administration from revoking the legal
status and work permits of the more than five hundred
and thirty thousand migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Do you remember this. It was the program, the CHNV program,
which is a horrible acronym. You gotta have a vowel
in there, guys, Okay, CHNV, or as I call it,
the CHINUV program, And Biden did this. Biden made this up,
much like Obama made up DACA, which say what you want.
At least the acronym spells something that you can say, right,
the Deferred Arrival the Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals Act, right
like that the DHAKA thing for the dreamers. So Joe
creates the Chunuva program via executive order in twenty twenty three.
The program was launched in twenty twenty two and initially
first applied just to Venezuelans, but then he expanded it
the next year to include the H, the N, and
the C right the Chuna part of the Chunuva program,
and the administration back then argued that the CHNV would
help reduce illegal crossings at the southern border, and that
is true. By the way, it did, because it flew
them into the country, thereby reducing the border crossings at
the ports of entry. That was the point. It was
to juice the stats while continuing to aid in the
mass invasion of people coming to the country, which is
what people do. By the way, when you operate you know,
a colonizing, racist, misogynists, xenophobic, sexist country. Everybody wants to
come here for some reason we are so awful at
just a historical level, America is so terrible that like
everybody wants to come here for some reason. I guess
people just are gluttons for punishment. But yeah, so remember
the program when Biden did It was put on pause
temporarily after widespread fraud was discovered in the program. Okay,
several recipients were also arrested for high profile crimes, including
multiple child rapes. So yeah, it's I mean, that's part
of the problem when you just allow people to apply
on you know, an app and then get a free
plane ride into America. CHNV allowed the migrants and their
immediate families to fly into the US if they had
an American sponsor, which was totally above board. I'm sure
nobody was gaming that system. They could then remain in
the country for two years under a temporary immigration status
known as parole. Officials with the Department of Homeland Security
and the Trump administration said that this judge, who, by
the way, who made this ruling is an Obama appointee,
Judge Indira Talwani. That the judge essentially ruled that Trump
can't use his own executive authority. The same authority Biden used.
So Biden used his authority to mass approve rights of
thousands of these parolees coming in from chn and V.
But Trump says, no, you're getting out, we're deporting you.
This program's over under the same executive authority. And this
judge is like, oh no, no, that's different. Why is it different?
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The story from Fox News about this federal judge. Her
name is Indira Talwani, and I just got to tell
you she is not in Deira herself to me at
all in that s sorry, that was bad. She has
ordered that she's an Obama appointee, and she has blocked
President Trump's administration from revoking the legal status for five
hundred and thirty thousand illegal aliens who flew into the
United States via the program. Joe Biden created the CHNV program,
which was an expansion of a program that he initially
did on his own to allow Venezuela to fly people
into the country or US, I should say, to fly
them into the country from Venezuela, which I'm not sure
if you're aware of this or not. They don't really
like us very much. They blame us for a whole
bunch of their COMMI failures. So like that didn't seem
like a great idea. And that's why when Donald Trump
talks about how, you know, these countries are you know,
sending criminals and you know, people out of the insane asylums,
that's what he's talking about. So this judge says that
every single one of these migrants needs to have an
individualized case by case review, you know, like they got
when they were flown in. No, they didn't see that's
the problem. They didn't. They didn't in violation of the law.
They didn't to the point where the Secretary of the
Department of Homeland Security, Alejandro Majorcis, was impeached over it.
That's who were This is what we're talking about. This
is the same program. Okay, so Chnva allowed migrants and
their immediate families to fly into our country. Right, officials
with Homeland Security and the Trump administration now say Talawane.
The judge essentially is ruling that Trump cannot use his
own executive authority, the same authority Biden used to revoke
the parole that Biden granted. And the Homeland Security officials
and administration officials are saying that because it's true, because
it's true. In March, the roughly five hundred and thirty
two thousand migrants under this program were told to leave
the United States before their humanitarian parole and accompanying work
permits are canceled on April twenty fourth. That gave them
a month from when the notice is formally published on
March twenty fifth. So they're still here. They've been given
a month to clear out. Let's go back a year ago,
a little bit longer than a year ago. From April thirtieth,
twenty twenty four, the House Committee on Homeland Security revealed
documents obtained through a subpoena of the Department of Homeland Security.
And by the way, they had to subpoena DHS because
DHS wouldn't give them the documents. The House Committee on
Homeland Security sought the documents, DHS didn't give them to them,
so they got slapped with a subpoena. And the documents
identified more than fifty airport locations that are used by
DHS to help process into the country more than at
the time four hundred thousand inadmissible aliens through the administration's
unlawful cchn V mass parole program. This was a mass parole.
You do a mass parole. Then that means you can
undo the mass parole. That's my view on it. If
you're going to ignore the law that says, hey, you're
supposed to do this on a case by case basis,
Like that's really what we're talking about here is how
do you unwind lawless behavior of an administration? And I
know people on the left and the anti Trumpers, I
know that they're going to say, well, we're going to
have to do that when Trump is out too, which
is the whole point of the problem. Trump is a
symptom of this guy's He's not the cause of it.
You allowed all of this, You allowed Obama to do
it with the DACA. I have a phone, I have
a pen right. You allowed that to occur. Nobody paid
any kind of penalty for that. So then they do
it again, and now Trump comes in and says, I'm
gonna undo DACA. Oh no, no, you can't do that,
all right, I'm gonna undo the CHNV. No, no, no,
you can't do that. So you can get elected president,
you just can't ever be president. That's kind of what
the judges are saying. And I've said this repeatedly, This
does not stop this kind of behavior from the district
court bench. This does not stop unless the Supreme Court
reigns in the lower courts, because if the Supreme Court
won't do it, if Chief Justice John Roberts won't do it,
and I don't believe he will, I don't think he's
got the intestinal fortitude to do it. What you are
seeing is a judicial branch that is now viewing itself
as not a coequal branch of the government. It's viewing
itself as supreme. That's a problem. That is a problem
if the judiciary thinks that it is above the other
two branches, particularly because one of those branches has guns,
they have the monopoly on force. You want judges making
rulings and directing the people with the guns to go
do stuff. According to these documents, DHS. This is from
a year ago. DHS admitted that none of the individuals
that were allowed into the country under this program have
a legal basis to enter the country. None of them.
They were inadmissibles. There was no legal basis for them
to be here, but they got parolled through the program.
DHS said, quote, all individuals parolled into the United States
are by definition inadmissible, including those paroled under the CHNV processes.
So what to you what to do when you have
half a million people admitted unlawfully. They were flown in
here by the Biden administration at taxpayer expense, flown into
the country, and they were never supposed to be allowed
to enter, let alone get paroled, let alone get protected. Now,
the chairman at the time of the House Committee on
Homeland Security, Mark Green, Republican from Tennessee, said Secretary Alexandro
Mayorkus's CHNV parole program is an unlawful sleight of hand
used to hide the worsening border crisis from the American people.
Implementing a program that allows otherwise inadmissible aliens to fly
directly into the US, not for significant public benefit or
urgent humanitarian reasons, as is required underm Imigration and Nationality
Act mandates, has been proven to be an impeachable offense.
They subpoenaed for the documents. The House voted to impeach him,
but the Senate utterly failed in its duty to hold
a trial. Remember that I do. I'm old enough to
remember that it was like just a year ago, So yes,
I remember that the Democrat controlled Senate refused to hold
a trial as they are required to do. Recognize where
we are. This is like, I understand there is a
normalcy bias here. You think, oh, we just disagree on
this stuff and policy whatever. No, no, no, no. We have
been talking about the dismantling of this infrastructure by the
left for a while. Now. People are mad at Donald Trump.
He's going after people for tax exempt status at Harvard
University and all this stuff. Yeah, crime a River Tea
Party people, right, who are your anti tea Party people?
When when Obama sicked the irs on the Tea Party,
you guys defended him in doing so. Recognize where we
are and how we got here. You guys keep dismantling
the framework, the infrastructure, and then you cry that other
people aren't adhering to the old rules that you obliterated.
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By the way, a couple of the airports where they
were flying the four hundred thousand plus CHNV inadmissible migrants.
Number one airport was Miami, Florida, number two, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
number three, New York City, although I didn't see so
many protests over that, maybe because it was they came
in on planes versus on buses and so they didn't
care anyway. Then Texas, Houston, Texas, Orlando, Florida, a lot
of Florida destinations. Tampa, Florida number seven, Los Angeles, Dallas,
San Francisco, Atlanta. Those your top ten, but other airports
include Charlotte and Raleigh, Durham. They sent them. I mean,
this list is massive. According to the documents, since the
beginning of the program that Biden implemented in twenty twenty
three January twenty twenty three, four hundred four thousand, the
number now is about is over half a million inadmissible
aliens have been parolled into the country through this CHNV program.
This is the program that Trump just scrapped and told everybody,
if you got paroled inside the country under this program,
you got a month to get out. And now a
judge has said you can't do that. You have to
give them individual appearances, like court appearances. You gotta take
every one of these cases individually. This is you've heard
this term before. I'm sure Cloward Piven, it's a Cloward
Piven strategy. Cloward and Piven, I believe they were married,
these two researchers, sociologists, leftists. I think they were out
of NYU or something, and Cloward Piven strategy refers to
what they laid out in one of their books, was
to overwhelm the government systems in order to achieve a
different goal. Their goal was to frighten the middle class
and the wealthy into agreeing to do a basic guaranteed
income for everybody. And so they were going to overwhelm
the you know, medicaid, roles, food stamps, like all of
the government benefits and services. Overload all of these systems
with people, and then the problem becomes so great and
it starts to collapse the institutions because they're you know, Marxists,
and that's what Marxism does. That's the whole point. Like,
what do you think decolonization meant? What do you think
the revolution refers to? It is the tearing down of
the institutions. It is a cancer from within. And people
have ignored this for decades. They thought, oh, Soviet Union fell,
no more commies, No, No. I refer to watermelons. Watermelons
are the greenies green on the outside, but red on
the inside. The watermelons. I know, people use that emoji
for something else nowadays, I forget what that is.
Speaker 2: That for.
Speaker 1: The Palestinians also kind of Marxists. This is the philosophy.
In my opinion, it is an evil philosophy. It is
rooted in envy. I'm going to take from that person
because I want what they have, and I'll redistribute some
of it around. I'll be the one in charge, right,
power grabbing. And so half a million of these people
came in under this program, which was unlawful, and the
Homeland Security under the previous administration admitted that these people
were not allowed to be in America because they came
from these countries that they weren't allowed to be from.
Over half of all of the monthly encounters at ports
of entry this fiscal year, according to the report from
the House Oversight Committee, were from Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
It's amazing when you offer free flights to America how
many people in the targeted countries take you up on
that offer, as highlighted in a previous report an interim
report on the border crisis by the committee. In twenty
twenty three, the Biden administration created the CHNV Parole program
to grant travel authorizations for qualifying inadmissible aliens. I love that.
So they're inadmissible, but they qualified. Just making up terms
qualified inadmissible aliens to fly into the country and be
released under a two year work authorization. That's what was
granted to them, a two year work authorization. DHS expanded
the use of its CBB one app, the Customs and
Border Protection app for the phone. They expanded it from
the intended commercial use to allow illegal immigrants who participate
in the CHNV parole program to then schedule appointments through
the app. In March of last year, a Haitian national
who entered the country through the CHNV program was arrested
for aggravated rape of a fifteen year old girl in Rockland, Massachusetts.
In February twenty twenty four, Secretary Majorcis was impeached for
high crimes and misdemeanors due to his refusal to comply
with the laws passed by Congress and his breach of
the public trust. Mayorcus defied the Immigration and Nationality Act
by abusing the permissibility for parole, which he was allowed
to grant on a case by case temporary basis only
for significant public benefit or urgent humanitarian need, and he
did not do that. It was a mass blanket. He
role it was not case by case, it was not
public benefit, it was not urgent humanitarian need. How do
you unwind that? Well, apparently we're gonna have to have
court proceedings for every single one of the people he
led in. All right, that'll do it for this episode.
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