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I obviously I wonder if anybody did the foya. I

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don't think they did, so I did the FOYA. This

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is weird because these two incident reports, but they're like

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at least six nine one one calls on each incident report.

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People were seeing these multiple monkeys in the area. I'll

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read you this report here. It's actually into the book

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and it basically says that to ac from Mike King

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from the Department of Agriculture, requesting call from someone that

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could give him more information regarding the monkey situation. One

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of the news reports that happened, this woman was talking

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about how she had seen these things. They were taller

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than her garbage can or as tall as her garbage can,

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and had really long swinging arms. She didn't describe seeing

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a tailor or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt and joining

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me is Eric. You may remember him from episode one

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twenty seven where we were talking about the legend of

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Harryman Road and a few other things. Well, Eric's back

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because one of the things that we kind of jumped

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into on that episode was Eric digging around in old

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archives utilizing a little thing called the Freedom of Information

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Act to obtain records of possible Bigfoot reports. And Eric,

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I think you've kind of made that your bread and butter,

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haven't you.

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Speaker 1: I've really focused on that. Yeah, in these last two

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three years, I kind of jumped into the whole bigfoot

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community with just an open mind, looking at different things.

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And I had seen that no one had really been

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utilizing the four yer request freedom of Information Act request

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on a federal or a state level. So my background

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is in public information, so I knew how to do

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a four yer request from doing other foyas, and I

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started submitting some foyas for different things I had heard

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about pertaining to the subject of Bigfoot or any type

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of unidentified bipedal creatures, any weird type of police reports,

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anything like that news that I could hear about. And

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to my shock, I actually got quite a few responses

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from these different requests from all over the country, and

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the majority of those are going to be found in

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the book that I just released. It's called Bigfoot The

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Redacted Truth, and it really goes into just my hunt

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over the last three three and a half years doing

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these full year quests and just the information in here

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is just kind of wild that nobody's really seen this

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stuff before on a federal and again on a state level.

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anecdotal evidence, and that's all great and stuff, but I

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kind of wanted to lead into if there was any

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far data that we could actually measure, and I think

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I got lucky with doing these fo yeas because yeah,

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I'm gonna go over some of this stuff and it's

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kind of speaks for itself, and if we want to

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go into what we could even say there might be

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some type of a cover up angle here. I'm not

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gonna go out and full full blown says it's a

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cover up, it's an intended cover up. But just going

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over the data, some of this stuff is just weird.

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animals that remain unaccounted for. That with you know, our

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technology nowadays, with drones, dogs, we should be finding whatever

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these things are that the people are reporting. So, yeah,

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like my thing. This is the sort of thing that

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really gets my juices flow and whenever it comes to

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this stuff, and it seems like your angle is something

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that would be a no brainer, that would have already

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been done. But like you're saying, I've been around for

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a pretty decent amount of time now and I was

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fortunate enough to hook up with some people that have

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been around a lot longer than me, and before you,

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I don't recall anybody ever really trying to approach it

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from this angle and find the paper trail, because we

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we've heard the recordings and stuff, and we've heard about people,

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you know, making different reports, but you've actually had some

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pretty decent luck with obtaining actual records and copies of

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things where people did report this stuff and it did

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some investigations going on. So what's the story, man? Where

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is all this stuff going? Because, like you're saying, these

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drop the case, or what do you think happened?

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this cases, like it's it's they were kind of just told, hey,

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give this step or whatever. It's odd. I mean, and

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doing this, and that's kind of a shame because we've

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you know, in on time or you know, within the

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timeframe that some of this stuff takes place, because unfortunately,

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one calls these agencies stayed in federal they'll only hold

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these calls for like thirty sixty ninety days, so after that,

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there you're rased and it's gone from the record. Nobody

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ever hears from it. A lot of times there's not

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even a transcript for these calls, which is a shame.

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last time I was here, But to me, it's just

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super interesting because I believe it's the only ever bigfoot

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sighting to ever take place documented in a National park,

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and it actually took place in Dino National Park in Colorado,

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and this was in twenty twenty really strength circumstances, and

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department of the National Park Service, And I mean everything

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was just pretty much redacted. And here the officer's name

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is redacted, the report author is redacted. We should have

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that information. We should have his badge number or the

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badge number is not even redacted. It's just not a list.

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off the bat. And then we have in glaring letters

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at the very top. I've never seen this another four

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year request before. It says, please note as astris astris,

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this incident contains information that has not been approved by

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a supervisor. So right there, you're telling me, you know

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what's going on here. Something seems off, And yeah, I

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that mickfoot hunter's flocking to Yampa Bench Road report bone

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piles near road and bigfoot siding near Cleopatra's couch. Bone

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result in increased risk of search and rescue. And it

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basically just says Cleopatrick's couch the area. So there we

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have so much more information here. Unfortunately, all we have

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investigation taking place? And I think I figured out what

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it was. That's because they had sent me after I

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got the four your request, I did like a an

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exemption for it, like a filed an appeal. And what

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from the original investigation report. And I'll just read you

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what they kind of told me. They were basically saying

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that the only reason there is an incident summary report

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not a full record was because this is verbatim here,

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the ranger who completed the case report was medically incapacitated

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at the time and did not have the ability to

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conduct a thorough report and follow up.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, yeah, if that doesn't sound fishy, then

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it falls under a hippa exemption, right, And once it's

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under a hip hop it's you can't get anything out

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of that. It's exempt from any type of search. So

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something weird happened in Dino National Park in twenty twenty people,

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multiple people reported a bigfoot sighting, and they don't go

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out to investigate, like.

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Speaker 2: They reported piles of bones exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: Now, if it were a bear or a cougar, I'm

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sure they would have been out there in a heartbeat, right, Yeah,

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they would have rushed out there.

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Speaker 2: And I mean national parks like they It just seems

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to me that they would one def investigate any claims

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about people stumbling across piles of bones in a national park.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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if it was a face to face interaction. We have

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no idea how this report came to be, and we

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should that should be in there, but that's been withheld

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for whatever reason. So on top of that, it's like,

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what the heck's going on here? And I've talked about

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this before. Some people have speculated that could the ranger

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medically incapacitated after seeing whatever this thing was. Yeah, it's

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really interesting when you think about it. But again, we

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should have a lot more information about this than we do,

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and is that by design. It kind of makes you wonder,

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effort that's being done too, I don't know, make people

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're passingated off as like something that's not

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even that big of a deal. But at the same time,

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the report got kicked up to the Department of Interior

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and the information was redacted for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, exactly, And I mean the bones were were mentioned,

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want to go and figure out who those bones belonged to,

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an animal, person, whatever. So this case kind of just

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something was triggered, and that's all the information would ended

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up getting out of it, which which kind of sucks.

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hunters that were out there, you know, for a couple

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of years now, no luck. So if anybody knows about

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people hunting out there in twenty twenty December of twenty

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twenty an Dino National Park, please reach out to me. Yeah,

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I think there's a story there.

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Speaker 2: Are Are you finding that a lot of this stuff

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that you're getting is sort of like that, just very brief.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it's brief, and a lot of it's

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kind of like without explanation, like they'll they won't go

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into detail about a lot of stuff. You'll get a

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kind of minimal, nothing really of anything you can sink

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your teeth into. And again, like you're wonder is that

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by design? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Have you done this sort of thing for stuff not

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related to Bigfoot? You said that you have like a

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background in public information.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done this before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Comparably, the Bigfoot stuff is much more lacking in

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information compared to like regular stuff that people get.

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Speaker 1: It is And you're kind of wondering, is that because

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they're not taking it seriously or because they're like, you know,

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to take it seriously or something like that. And even

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really weird incident that took place, and it was in

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twenty twenty one, and there are there are a few

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news reports articles about a group of monkeys had been

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seen in Cincinnati in twenty twenty one. There's video of it.

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There's at least one video that you can see on

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social media side YouTube, and you see like three or

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four dark figures that they're saying are monkeys in a tree,

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and they're pretty good size, they're hefty. And I had

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heard about this and when I seen it, I obviously

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I wonder if anybody did the foya. I don't think

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they did, so I did the foya and I got

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back two. This is weird because it's two incident reports,

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but they're like at least six calls, nine to one

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one calls on each incident report, so that by itself

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is weird. Each call should have their own incident number, incident,

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you know, summary, all that stuff, and it looks like

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they just kind of bulked everything into two reports, which

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is just kind of weird off the bat. But people

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were seeing these these multiple monkeys in the area, and

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it got to the point where the Department of Agriculture

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I'll read you this report here. It's actually it's the book,

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and it's a detailed the incident report, detailed incident report,

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and it basically says that to ac from Mike King

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from the Department of Agriculture, requesting call from someone that

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could give him more information regarding the monkey situation. So again,

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there were multiple monkeys kind of roaming around in Cincinnati.

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People were seeing them taking video. In one of the

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news reports that happened, this woman was talking about how

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she had seen these things. They were taller than her

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garbage can or as tall as her garbage can, and

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had really long swinging arms. She didn't describe seeing a

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tailor or anything like that. And again, the original guy

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who called his name was Lucky Griffin. I have his

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reports in the book and he basically says that he

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sees these things walking down the road as he's on

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the phone or whatever. I would have loved to have

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had those nine one one phone calls as they're describing

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what they're seeing. But I reached out to them, and

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this is one of those agencies that they only hold

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the calls for like sixty days and then they erased them.

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So we should have like nine to one one calls

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from this thing. At least at least eight, if not more,

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about people reporting these apes just kind of roaming the area.

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And I'll read you a little bit more of this

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report here because it just kind of gets weirder and

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you'll see where the kind of cover up angle goes.

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This happened. I read you that first part and this

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was a couple hours later. It's spoke with resident West

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eighth and Harrison reported last night video scene at least

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four or more last seen through the woods at the

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ed and Cemetery. No sign of camera from resident approximately

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unknown who they belong to. WLWT has been advised to

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contact PIO. So again these are this is a different

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person making a call pretty much saying that hey, we're

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seeing the monkeys in this area. And then shortly after

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that we have someone else calling different name. Three hours

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later they're basically saying heard monkeys around the area, seeing nothing.

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Then it says that they linked it right here in

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the call notes it says that they linked it. This

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one is really interesting. This is another person and it

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says cap they called in. The says comp was watching

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the news and was told to call if they had

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any info. Comp advised her dog was barking at a

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screaming creature in the tree on Easter and it was

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a monkey. Then it ran to the top of a

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swaying tree. Body of the monkey was Koala their size

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monkey's last seen Easter Sunday and call if needed, and

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wanted to confirm that the original called are not lying,

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so right there, and that's just a crazy call right there.

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This isn't even the same day. This person is saying, hey,

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we had we saw these monkeys like days before this happened.

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So koalaverir sized monkey doesn't sound like a copouch and

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monkey to me. And if you if you do see

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that video, they look really bulky and has the almost

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like chimpanzee size that other woman describing as tall as

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a garbage can arms swing you get, you get that

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eight picture more than a monkey picture. Yeah, So people

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were out here saying things. I mean, this thing was

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screaming at her dog, this freathing creature in the trees.

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Literally what this report says her dog was barking at him,

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ran to the top of a swinging tree. So really

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weird stuff coming out of Cincinnati. Multiple people seeing whatever

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these things were, and then here's another call that happened

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a few hours later. About four hours later, redactave device.

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She could hear the monkeys up in the trees at

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her location, sounds only recorded, no visual. Now, we should

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have had those sound recordings in the four yer request

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that I did, right, but that wasn't included. I don't

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know why, but it wasn't. We should have those. Someone

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else calls can hear some kind of animal sounds from

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the woods, no visual, and then okay, and then this

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is where it gets interesting. So they go to the location,

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this last location where they can hear the you know,

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recorded the audio and no visual, and it says no monkeys,

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just owls. And then about a minute later it says

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just located owls in the woods and then says CPD

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has closed their incident. About an hour later, another incident

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pops up. Shasta police stated he heard monkeys in his backyard,

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but they're no longer there. So they try to cover

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this up real quick, saying it was just owls in

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the woods. Yea, even though people had video, even though

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multiple people across the city were seeing this, they just

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said owls. And then an hour later again another monkey report.

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Just weird so I have no explanation for that. I

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don't know if you do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's how Planet of the Ape starts, right,

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I mean that's crazy. I'm just sitting here thinking, like listening.

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Do you say all this stuff? Read it off the reports?

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There should be so much more information. Oh yeah, I

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mean a group of a monkey, like I could understand, like, okay,

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one monkey, maybe one phone call or something. It gets out,

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it's not that big of a deal. But I remember

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various instances where groups of primates have escape captivity and

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it's a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of this. I don't remember hearing

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about a group of monkeys in Cincinnati though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not many people have, even people from Cincinnati

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haven't heard of this, which is weird. Yeah, I mean,

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very few news reports about it. Odd odd stuff. Like

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I said, we should have like at least eight ninety

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one to one phone calls, We should have individual incident

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report numbers for all of these, but they just grouped

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all of these stuff into like two different reports, which

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is just it's just crazy to me. I don't know

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why they I've never seen that done before. And then again,

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we have the Department of agriculture wanting to know what

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the heck's going on over there. Yeah, so that's like

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at a state level, he's wanting to know. You know,

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he's not an accounty or anything like that, but it

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kind of shows you that everybody was really taking this seriously.

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And they never found anything. They found nothing with all

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the drones, they had, dogs that they had a belief,

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a team from the Cincinnati Zoo out with tranquilizers they

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had again I said, drones, people on foot. They never

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found anything. There's no explanation to where these monkeys came from,

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what they were, where they went, where they went, Yeah, exactly,

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we have no information about that. It's just the close report,

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you know, incidents, status clothes. I'm sitting at the top,

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really weird stuff, no explanation for it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of instances of you know, I mean, I'm

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just thinking randomly here. But like so obviously zoos have

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primates and you've got some rehabilitation places and like that.

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But if the animals get out, you know, it's it's

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a pretty big deal. And then you have medical testing

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facilities where if the animals get out, it's really a big.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's twenty eight days later right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that just seems really strange. That is

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just shut down like that, and like, oh, well, we

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found some owls. Time to move on, right.

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Speaker 1: And the Cincinnati Zoo had been contacted also, and they're like, no,

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we got all our monkeys. So they sent out a

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team just to kind of help with the situation. And again,

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no luck. Nothing was ever nothing was ever found. And

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this kind of is leads me into another incident that

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took place because this is just so eerily similar to

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an incident that took place in Santa Fe, Texas in

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twenty nineteen that I have. I also have the reports

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for during the book, and this one is weird, man,

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this one's really weird. I'll read you the original incident report.

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That was the very first thing anybody the public knew

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about it or whatever. The after everything came out, the

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sheriff had to come I'm not saying they had to

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come out making like a public service announcement saying, hey,

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if you see a champ in the area, don't touch it,

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don't approach it, call us like this happened. It was

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I think it was on there, even on their Facebook

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page and stuff like that. I'll read you. I'll read

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you this police report here. So this was on nine Okay,

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you know what I should have actually let me see no, yeah, okay,

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this is the right one. Yeah. So this was actually

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on September tenth, twenty nineteen, everything started, and it basically says,

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here possible monkey sighting, game, more and advice. He will

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speak he will be speaking with Aco about the issue,

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and then it says per eleven eleven, send eleven eleven.

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Aco contact gives the name of the person, and then

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it says we'll need drone. Several hours later, about seven

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hours later, it says assist at Aco VA drone and

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attempting to locate a monkey. But the search was unsuccessful.

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Check the area of via drone unable to locate monkey.

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So about six hours into this investigation, they've got drones

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in the air looking for this monkey that's been roaming

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around Santa Fe, Texas, and they weren't able to find it.

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They weren't able to find it at that time. And

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it's it's weird again because they had to go make

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a public statement. The news cupboads and this one was

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a little bit more extensive than what was going on

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in Ohio. There was actually a lot of people reporting

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on this. One of the more interesting ones was there

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was a woman all location kind of reporting about it,

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and they come back from a commercial break and there's

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like a truck driving right past her and she goes,

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they just told us they spotted the monkey down the

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street or the ape down the street, so we're gonna

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go to that location. So this was happening in real time.

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People were seeing this thing similar to the Cincinnati one,

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all over the area, but we didn't get any video

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of this one like we did with the Cincinnati one.

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Witnesses did come forward. There was this one witness I

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think probably got the best look about it, so he

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was the only one that spoke to the public about it,

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and she said that she had it was the middle

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of the night. She had seen this thing digging through

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her garbage cans. She made a report. I have her report,

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it's in the book. And it was standing tall, lifting

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the garbage can, digging through it. She closed the blinds,

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called the police and they came out and didn't find anything.

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But then other people were reporting it, mainly the officials

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government officials in the area kind of downplaying it. They

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were making it sound like it was a smaller monkey,

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capuchin monkey, but all the reports I have make it

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seem like it was a lot bigger than a capuchin

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monkey or just some random tiny monkey up there. And

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I'll read you, I'll read you another instance of what

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I'm kind of saying here. Everything continued on for about

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two days and a couple hours later. This is the

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same day that this happened. This was happening at nine

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pm at night, and again it says here's here's cowling

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thinks it maybe eight on the loose. Now a small

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capuchin monkey, I don't think it howls like that. The

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way they're describing it, it sounds like something bigger. And also

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the nature of this police call was a suspicious person,

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so that doesn't sound like a little monkey for an

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animal control issue. They're talking about something howling and a powling,

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and it really kind of just goes even more from there.

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The next report we get is right before midnight, eleven pm.

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This is another report here, and it says color advises

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he hears primate possible visual. So this person actually got

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a visible a visual. I would have loved to hear

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that nine to one on one phone call as they're saying, hey,

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I'm looking at it, or I saw it, it's this tall,

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then we would know for sure it's this size, it's

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this this. I'm sure they were describing it. I don't

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know why we don't get any type of transcript or

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any other information about these calls. We have nothing. All

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we have is just a couple of little words acknowledging

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their call was made, which is just to me, it's

476
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,400
just terrible. But imagine if they were describing this thing

477
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480
in detail, what it looked like, the size of it.

478
00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:00,759
Just really interesting stuff. And again I did the four

479
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:05,119
year request. I got about four individual police reports from

480
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,240
League City and Santa Fe City Police Department. Those are

481
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,640
like the two neighboring counties. That was really interesting. And

482
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,079
the other thing was that the news was reporting this

483
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480
was an aggressive ape. I have never found any type

484
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,400
of information in any of the reports about mentioning aggressive

485
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:29,599
it did this. I found nothing about that. What I

486
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,319
did do a four year quest for the email server

487
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,759
at that location for this time, and I got something

488
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,759
really interesting. To me. This is kind of like I

489
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,960
don't want to say smoking gun, but man, it's just

490
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,559
so crazy. This was an email. It was never meant

491
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:45,720
to see the public. It was from the county clerk there,

492
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,039
sent out to an outside source and the subject is OMG,

493
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Oh my god, and it says basically, OMG, there is

494
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,880
a loose monkey out in Santa Fe, Texas. It is

495
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,559
between three to four feet tall and attacking people. What

496
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:05,039
the heck? It's been missing it out and about since Friday.

497
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,480
So that's just crazy to me that internally they're kind

498
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:13,359
of saying at the at the different sheriff's offices and

499
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,680
government agencies, they're saying, this thing attacks somebody. It's it's

500
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,440
a wild ape. They never that never transpires in the reports,

501
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,359
but I believe it's factual because they're a county clerk

502
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,240
is stating.

503
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: It apes, period. But three to four feet that's killing people,

504
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,880
that's ripping their arms off. That would be like a

505
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,920
huge problem.

506
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that's a big deal. And I mean

507
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200
they were taking it seriously definitely. If the sheriff had

508
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,839
to come out basically say if you see a chip

509
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,400
running around, don't touch it or whatever.

510
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: My conspiracy brain though, is telling me, well.

511
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think everybody's kind of thinking that. Honestly, again,

512
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,160
they never found anything. They had drones in the air,

513
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200
they had dogs, they had people, gangs of people out there.

514
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,559
They found nothing. They turned up nothing. They closed this investigation.

515
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,279
If there was a wild monkey on the loose, wouldn't

516
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,240
you think you'd want to kind of keep looking for it.

517
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

518
00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:12,279
Speaker 1: The other thing is that they mentioned in this email

519
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,799
that it was it's been out in the loose since Friday,

520
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
like kind of like it's a it's a monkey they

521
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,279
know about or whatever. I did floyers trying to find

522
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,480
any type of incident where a monkey attacked a person

523
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,160
or a kid or whatever. I don't have nothing nothing

524
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,680
about that, So that's interesting to me. And after I

525
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,519
started talking about this, multiple people reached out to me

526
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,079
from this area with different accounts of what they believe.

527
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,160
It was like, one guy reached out to me saying

528
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,160
that he believed it was like a mother and a

529
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,559
young one. Because people were reporting different size variations. Some

530
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,519
people were saying small, some people were saying big. And

531
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,400
then another guy reached out to me saying, oh, that

532
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,440
was an escape chimp from like a chicken farm. And

533
00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,359
I was like, you know, okay, I looked into that

534
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:03,119
that I couldn't really find anything to substantiate that. One

535
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,920
of the more interesting ones that I received was from

536
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,599
this man who had reached out to me and that

537
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,160
he had the story was really kind of fascinating. He

538
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:15,240
told me that his son and his son's friend were

539
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,119
out dove hunting in Santa Fe and that his son

540
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,559
had seen this what he thought was like a monkey,

541
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,680
an ape, and a tree, and that I can't remember

542
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,640
if he said they shot first or this thing attacked first,

543
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,599
but he said they shot at it and it jumped

544
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:34,599
out of a tree and scratched this kid's face. And

545
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,519
that is where the attacking people portion of this whole

546
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,599
thing comes from. And that's just kind of Yeah, that's

547
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,599
just kind of weird and interesting. I can't find anything

548
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,319
to really substantiate that. But we know something happened to

549
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,680
make this thing aggressive or like attacking people. We know that.

550
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,440
So that's just kind of odd in itself that we

551
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:04,039
have unidentified at least attacked at least one person out there.

552
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,440
To me, that's just insane. Yeah, and we have no

553
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,079
explanation for it.

554
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Three to four foot tall at least, like you said,

555
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,759
reports of different heights, but we have that one at

556
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:22,400
least confirmed by a witness I mean.

557
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you hear the howling and stuff, you're

558
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:27,319
thinking big, You're thinking something big.

559
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean chimps, as far as I know,

560
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,440
don't howl. I mean, yeah, I know some of their vocalizations.

561
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Maybe I'm wrong on that, but yeah. Again, I just

562
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,759
think like if something like that got loose, logically to me,

563
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,160
maybe I'm wrong, but somebody would report it like, hey,

564
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960
my chimp got loose. You know, that's my chimp. Can

565
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,720
we get it back? Or And I understand maybe it

566
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:57,039
was owned illegally or something like that, but it all

567
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,240
just seems really suspicious.

568
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: It does. And I mean there's been cases of that before,

569
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200
like tigers getting loose in Texas, Like there was a

570
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,119
whole I think for like three or four years in

571
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,359
a row there was like a tiger that you'd hear

572
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,680
about the news for escaping, you know, constantly. And that's

573
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000
what I first thought when I heard about this, until

574
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:19,880
I started doing the Foyer request and I was like, WHOA,

575
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,400
this is weird. And those tigers and everything, they always

576
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960
find those they're out for a couple of days maybe,

577
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,880
and then they find them. They'll have a drone, a

578
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,279
lot of a team out there and they'll spot it

579
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,960
and they'll find it. They never did that with this,

580
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,400
They never had any type of explanation. Again, like the

581
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,599
Cincinnati thing, we don't have an identification, we don't have

582
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,640
you know, where these things came from. We've got we've

583
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,279
got nothing. And that's kind of concerning to me. Honestly,

584
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,319
if they're reporting an aggressive chimp out there or an

585
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:50,240
aggressive ape I should say, out there attacking people that

586
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,680
was never found, Like that's that's a little concerning to me.

587
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just on the skeptic side, you know, let's

588
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,359
say it all really is known primates, you know, escaped

589
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,160
or whatever. That would definitely explain some of the bigfoot

590
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,400
reports that people have. So it's crazy that either way

591
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,839
you look at it, either it's a potential Bigfoot or

592
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,400
there's potentially loose primates running around in the woods in

593
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,319
some parts of the world where they're not supposed to

594
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:21,680
be at.

595
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything about this is concerned. And again I really

596
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,680
would have loved to have those nine to one one

597
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160
calls because I think with those calls we would have

598
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,720
definitely got some type of again, height, size, or what

599
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,039
they look like, because we don't have any of that stuff.

600
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:41,119
In these reports we have barely we don't even have identification.

601
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,160
So it's it's just one of those things again, kind

602
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,839
of like the Cincinnati one where there's no closure. Here,

603
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680
we've got, we've got, we have, we have no idea,

604
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,039
we don't know anything. We just know people were seeing

605
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:58,960
some type of ape creature creatures possibly in these areas,

606
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,079
which is it's just man and people say, you know

607
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:09,800
about bigfoot sighting through whatever, there's a you know, people say,

608
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,039
how come they don't call the cops or anything like that. Well,

609
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,679
I mean maybe this is one of those cases where

610
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,360
they just kind of turn it into monkey stuff. And

611
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,480
you'll see that that theme kind of continues through through

612
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:26,400
my investigation. A lot of times they'll just say unidentified monkey.

613
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,920
Very there's few and far between where they do say bigfoot,

614
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:34,679
but I do have reports where they do say big foot.

615
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,679
Speaker 2: If you were calling in, you know, to report seeing

616
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,800
a bigfoot and you're just like, I don't know what

617
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,880
to do? Should I call the police? Who should I call?

618
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,159
And you do end up calling. You don't want to

619
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,480
sound crazy, you don't want to say that's true. So

620
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,800
like it makes sense that people would say I don't

621
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,119
know it's some kind of monkey or ape or something.

622
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: Right. I think there's a lot more of those calls

623
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,440
than we know about. I think there's a lot more,

624
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
and I'm hoping to uncover a lot of those. And

625
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:06,400
I've been lucky with some stuff. And we talked about

626
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,920
getting laughed at or whatever by calling about bigfoot. I

627
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,760
want to talk about the Harrison County incident that happened

628
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,960
in twenty twenty three, where unfortunately, that's that's what happened

629
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,199
to this gentleman who did call the authorities to report

630
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,920
what was going on, and they didn't treat him as

631
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,559
well as they should have. I'll just say that. And

632
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,880
this one's in. It's so weird. It's so weird because

633
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
that last one that I talked about in Santa Fe, Texas,

634
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:45,159
it happened September tenth of twenty twelve. Yeah, I was

635
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,760
in twenty twenty one, I'm sorry, twenty nineteen. September tenth

636
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,719
of twenty nineteen. This incident had took place in twenty

637
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,840
twenty three in Harrison County, happened on the same day.

638
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,280
So to me, that's just kind of wild. Harrison County

639
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,440
on the Santa Fe they're very close. They're not that far,

640
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,599
not that far apart, kind of swamp lands both areas.

641
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,840
Harrison County is a little bit to the north. But

642
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,199
I'll just read you this incident report here. This one

643
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,280
I received through a Freedom of Information Act request, and

644
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,760
it's the whole call shoot here. I have the nine

645
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,360
to one one phone call. This is one of those

646
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840
rare instances where I was able to hop on it

647
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,800
as it was happening, so I submitted my FOY. I

648
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,599
have the ninety one one phone call. I have it

649
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:29,960
on my channel. I kind of took it down because

650
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,840
I'm going to be using it in my next documentary.

651
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
I'll be going out to this area in the next

652
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,280
couple of weeks, hopefully talk to the witness, go out

653
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,559
to this area, because it's the whole thing is just

654
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,039
kind of fascinating to me. And I'll just I have

655
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,920
the I have the image that was taken that's mentioned here.

656
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280
I'll just talk about it real quick. It says caller

657
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,000
reports that he may have spotted something like Bigfoot on

658
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,320
his game cameras near the Samuel Murphy Estates off of

659
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,400
the Lovely Road. RP was transferred to public service and

660
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880
then it's a very attom. It says sighting of bigfoot

661
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,159
on game camera. So this gentleman believes he has the

662
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,360
photo of a bigfoot on his game camera, and he

663
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,880
reported it to the local authorities, and now the Harrison

664
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,079
County Sheriff's office ended up transferring that call to the

665
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,559
local Fish and Wildlife, I believe, so they got involved.

666
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,960
The ranger with the Fish and Wildlife got involved. That's

667
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,960
actually where I got the image from. I four you

668
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,079
them and I got the image from them. But the

669
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,800
gentleman called because he was concerned. He was branching out there.

670
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,360
He's got a hayfield out there, and this thing. You

671
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,719
can see it the images in the book. It's standing

672
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,320
very tall in the middle of one of his fields.

673
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,199
The proportions are just all really weird, and it's just

674
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,119
an odd looking photo. I have no idea you know,

675
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,039
what it is. But he was concerned enough to call

676
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,960
and say, I think this might be bigfoot. And we

677
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,400
had again, you had talked about it, saying that that

678
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,719
kind of sounds crazy making that call. But I'll give

679
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,000
this man his props for that. He actually made it

680
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,239
and says, I think this is a big foot. And

681
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,400
unfortunately they were professional while he was on the phone,

682
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,440
but as soon as they hung up and called the

683
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,719
game warden in the area, the dispatchers were kind of

684
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
like laughing, like, hey, he said this seem a big foot.

685
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,199
You can hear laughing in the background or whatever. The

686
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,239
game warn hears it, and he takes it seriously, and

687
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,480
so he's like, I'll go ahead out there, and so

688
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,360
they call him back to get his information, the witnesses information,

689
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,920
and they say, we're dispatching the sheriff out there. The

690
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,159
sheriff is out there for less than four minutes before

691
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,480
he closes the incident. That's what it says in the report.

692
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,000
He's out there for four minutes, closes the incident. Really weird.

693
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:45,320
I don't know why he did that. But again, I

694
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,440
spoke to the witness and he's kind of back and forth.

695
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,159
He wants to give me an interview, but he was

696
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,320
really upset at the way this was this was handled.

697
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,880
So hopefully he's still willing to give me that interview.

698
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,239
He's definitely said he'd take me to that area, so

699
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:05,280
I'll get at least that hopefully. But again, really odd

700
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,760
and strange stuff here. Just looking at the photo, the

701
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,920
photo is just really really strange looking, and I've got

702
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,840
no explanation for that. Again, I think there's more of

703
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,840
these phone calls out there than we will then, you know,

704
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,000
we kind of are led to believe. I think there's

705
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:24,320
more not necessarily saying bigfoot, but maybe they are saying,

706
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,920
you know, hairy creature, monkey or ape or something like that.

707
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,280
And this is really the stuff that I'm looking for.

708
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,519
To me, this is a complete investigation. I guess you

709
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,960
want to call it. I heard about it. I made

710
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,199
the four year request. I have my original four year request.

711
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:42,320
I have their email they sent me, I have the

712
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,719
original call sheet. I've got the nine to one one

713
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,559
phone call. I've got pretty much everything. I've spoken to

714
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:53,360
the witness. So this one, I feel like we've got

715
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,760
a little bit of closure on this one. Not everything,

716
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,480
because we don't know what's in that photo obviously, but

717
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,760
this one, it feels this one feels a little bit

718
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,599
better because again we have we have everything here. It's

719
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,880
still kind of unsolved, but there's more information here. And

720
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,679
the only reason that is is because I was able

721
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,400
to jump on it so fast. Again, if it would

722
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,639
have been thirty to sixty days and no phone call,

723
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:17,960
we wouldn't have been able to idea the witness any

724
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,480
of that stuff. I'd be lucky to get the image, honestly,

725
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,119
I think. I think as the time goes by, that

726
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,320
even gets a little bit harder, and some agencies want

727
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,920
to charge money for that because it costs a dig

728
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,920
and look for that stuff. So I got really lucky

729
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,360
with all of this. And the image is weird. Again,

730
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,280
the image is really weird. I kind of do a

731
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,079
little bit of an analysis in the book, just the proportions.

732
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,760
It's right next to a deer feeder, a little behind

733
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,559
a deer feeder, so you can kind of gauge a

734
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:49,760
little bit of size, and it is. It does look

735
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,000
fairly big, so it's interesting.

736
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, did you get the name of the

737
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,480
fishing game person? Oh yeah, oh yeah. He tried to

738
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:01,199
contact them.

739
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,159
Speaker 1: I have tried to contact him. I've been I've been unsuccessful.

740
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,440
But I know someone who has spoken to him that

741
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:14,199
lives in the area and didn't really go into detail

742
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:15,840
about what they had talked about. He just said that

743
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,760
he knew that person. I think on a personal level

744
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,920
he knows that person, but I know who he is.

745
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
I have his identity and all that type of stuff.

746
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,760
So I'm going to be going out there to film

747
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,320
this follow up documentary, and if I could get in

748
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,599
touch with him and the witness get him at the

749
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,440
same location, that would be really cool. I don't think

750
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:35,119
anybody's ever done anything like that.

751
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
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Just being able to follow something through from beginning to end,

774
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,639
like that is really what everybody needs to be doing.

775
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,679
That's calling themselves a Bigfoot researcher, not putting you in

776
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719
that group or anything, but I'm just saying in general,

777
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,599
you know, like obviously you're proving that it can be

778
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,519
done if you're willing to put in the work.

779
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:19,119
Speaker 1: Definitely, And I think, yeah, you kind of hit the

780
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,280
nail on the head right there. I think everything should

781
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,920
be investigated to the you know, umph degree. I guess,

782
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,519
just names dates and when you're out there, it always

783
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,440
keeps some type of log or whatever. That's just always important.

784
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,639
And always try to convince, you know, the witness that

785
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,960
they're willing to give their name, because I think that

786
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,679
just kind of gives it gives power to the to

787
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:45,639
the witnesses, to the people who've seen this thing, you know,

788
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:50,639
maybe we start some type of you know, witness awareness

789
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,519
group or something like that where they can kind of

790
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:56,239
get together. I think that'd be interesting. Yeah, but yeah,

791
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:59,599
I'll continue on because again, there hasn't been many documents

792
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:04,239
in actually have bigfoot in anywhere in the documentation, but

793
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,800
this one a couple others that it basically says it

794
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,599
out loud, and this next one here is really it's

795
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,400
really weird because it kind of borders on bigfoot attack.

796
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:19,159
I know the that other one kind of does too,

797
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,480
the one that happened in Santa Fe with the aggressive monkey,

798
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,599
but this one gives us a little bit more details. Again, unfortunately,

799
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,440
we should have the ninety one one call for this,

800
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:33,159
but we don't. Don't even have transcript for it. This

801
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,400
happened and we'll try to say at Washington County by

802
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,280
Ann Arbor, Michigan. And this again, oddly enough, this was

803
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,559
in September. These last three things we talked about, all

804
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,880
of been in September September twenty sixth, twenty twenty two,

805
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:54,679
at midnight, twelve thirty one am. Location is redacted, dispatch

806
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,360
office is redacted. And I'll just read you basically what

807
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,679
it says in the CFS and air to hear. Paul

808
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,519
comes in twelve three two am call her out in

809
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,519
the wilderness in a cheap at a tree farm. Just

810
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,760
heard someone yell outside. Caller thinks it's bigfoot again. Caller

811
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,079
says he wants to go to the hospital to get

812
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:23,719
out of the tree farm. HbA to stage wandersome back

813
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,760
to the line. Cooper can move the sidebar to let

814
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,360
open the fence. Was calling for ETA and secure HbA.

815
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,599
So basically they had to go and assist this person

816
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,199
out of this area at midnight because of some injury.

817
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,559
And he mentions that he thinks he hears bigfoot again. Yeah,

818
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,800
so I'm like, what the heck's going on here? He

819
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,920
hears bigfoot again? Where's the first time he heard bigfoot?

820
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,199
It's crazy, Like we I have no explanations for that.

821
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,639
Unless he called before saying hey, I'm hearing bigfoot out here,

822
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,320
and then he calls again saying I still hear bigfoot

823
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,719
out here again. We had no information and this is

824
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,559
kind of is it by design? We don't know. Since

825
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,519
he was injured, HVA, I believe he gets like, you know,

826
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:16,599
medically escorted out of there. This is gonna again fall

827
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:19,679
under that hip hop thing. Unfortunately. Yeah, so once it

828
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,880
does that, we're not going to get any information. Was

829
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,440
this guy attacked by a bigfoot? It's interesting.

830
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: I think you had sent me that one.

831
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 1: I did. I send you this one, Yeah.

832
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: And I remember reading over it and like you're saying,

833
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,719
it kind of insinuates that the guy was injured by

834
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,039
a bigfoot. And even even the reporting officer is like

835
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:47,679
talking about a bigfoot.

836
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: It's weird because I think the reporting officer is picking

837
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,119
his words very carefully. Yeah, I don't think he's wanting

838
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:59,400
to say what exactly happened, because it makes no sense.

839
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,719
Just basically says just for someone yell outside color thinks

840
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,119
he hears bigfoot, he wants to go to the hospital,

841
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,760
Like where was the injury mentioned? There was, you know,

842
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,880
like they don't mention he called before this happened, none

843
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
of that stuff. It should be in the in the

844
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
foury request. If he called multiple times, I should have that.

845
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,880
It's nowhere to be found.

846
00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:22,519
Speaker 2: Any type of first responder dispatched or anything.

847
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Well, it just says HbA, and I think that is

848
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,400
I think that is some type of medical from what

849
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,000
I understand. But after that, yeah, we don't get any

850
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,679
type of nothing because it goes into that into that

851
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,199
hippa thing. Yeah, I mean it sounds like he got

852
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,679
attacked by bigfoot. I mean, this is the closest thing

853
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:47,440
I think I seem to a bigfoot attack report. And

854
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,400
that's kind of what I titled it in the book

855
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,639
Bigfoot Attacks. Yeah, because this is just it's you know,

856
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,880
I have no explanation for that. It doesn't say he

857
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,320
you know, rolled his car, I was in a car accident.

858
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,719
Doesn't say he got shot or something. It just says

859
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,599
he wants to go to the hospital because he hears

860
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:07,679
a bigfoot. Why would you want to go to the

861
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,920
hospital because you hear a big floot? Makes no sense

862
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,159
to me?

863
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:14,559
Speaker 2: And why? And why a bigfoot? Why a bigfoot? Specific?

864
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:18,079
Speaker 1: Why a bigfoot? Again? Yeah, he says again, it's like,

865
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,119
what the heck's going on? Imagine hearing that nine to

866
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,079
one one phone call, Get me the heck out of here,

867
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,199
you know, big you know, imagine who's hearing it.

868
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a few bigfoot nine to one

869
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,760
one calls that obviously have gone viral on the internet.

870
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,039
People especially have heard the one from Washington. Then there

871
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,599
was another one not too long ago where a lady

872
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,440
saw one crossing the road in North Carolina. Maybe I'm

873
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,679
probably wrong about that, but uh no.

874
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: I think I think I've heard both of those. And

875
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,840
I've tried getting info on the on the Washington one,

876
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,400
but I'm not able to get any type of foya

877
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,760
out of that. But this this one is just you know,

878
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,960
I would have loved to hear that phone call.

879
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: I guess it makes sense that they only keep them

880
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,199
for so long unless there's some sort of actual crime

881
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,119
where you know, there's probably a court order or to

882
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:12,920
archive it or whatever. But it just seems awfully convenient

883
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,440
that all these bigfoot nine one one calls are gone exactly.

884
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:20,159
Speaker 1: No, exactly, And again, is that you know? Is that planned?

885
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000
Is that something they thought about before? So when I

886
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:24,679
put this out there, a lot of people reach out

887
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,000
to me saying that they've had similar experiences in that area,

888
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,440
which I thought was really cool. That's exactly what I'm

889
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,000
trying to go for. I'm trying to put this stuff

890
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:34,400
out there and have people reach out to me with saying, oh,

891
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,920
I reported that, you know, or I also something you know,

892
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,480
I saw something called the cops whatever, we can look

893
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,320
for that and have more have a database of these

894
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,159
of these actual nine one one phone calls mentioning Bigfoot,

895
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,719
these nine one reports mentioning Bigfoot. I don't know, it's

896
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,880
just weird, weird stuff.

897
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: Now, before we went on the air, we were talking

898
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,320
about an incident where a bone was involved. Do you

899
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,239
want to talk about that?

900
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can talk about that. That's not in my

901
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,639
book because it just it's weird. Writing this book, I

902
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:13,360
had to kind of postpone and postpone because a four

903
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,320
year request, you don't know when you're gonna get stuff back.

904
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,079
It could be a month, it could be several months.

905
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:20,239
So I kept pushing it back. And this is one

906
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,760
of those instances where I could have put it in there,

907
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,760
but I would have had to pushed it back again,

908
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,880
and I didn't want to do that. So what happened

909
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,840
I was I was doing some four year requests for

910
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,039
counting up in Washington, and I asked them to give

911
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,280
me all their emails they had on their email server

912
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719
from a certain date to a certain date, and it

913
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,840
was a couple thousand and so I started digging through

914
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,119
those and I found some interesting stuff. And what really

915
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:51,679
kind of just caught in my eye was the subject

916
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,800
line of one of those emails that basically said unidentified bone.

917
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,639
And as I open it up, I look and I

918
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,639
start reading the trance the email chain that's going on,

919
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:11,320
and it's about a woman who's emailing the local museum

920
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,840
in the area asking for some clarification. She had just

921
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:22,800
inherited a bone collection from a biologist she knew, and

922
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,199
so she's looking over this bone collection with a friend

923
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,599
and they see this bone and they're like, what the

924
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:31,880
heck is this? They have no explanation for it. And

925
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
I believe they were told by the biologist while that

926
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:40,039
person was still alive, that this bone could potentially be

927
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,360
a baby bigfootbone that is mentioned in the email chain.

928
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,679
They mentioned is this a baby big footbone to the

929
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,800
museum when they email it. So they email the museum.

930
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,639
The museum emails them back saying, Hey, that's really interesting.

931
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,079
We kind of want to get the shareffs involved with this,

932
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,480
Sheriff's office involved because if that's a human bone, we

933
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,960
need to take to look at it. So the email

934
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,119
chain starts with the sheriff's office saying, Hey, we need

935
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:06,800
you to bring that bone in so we can test it,

936
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,920
and all this other stuff and communication basically dies on

937
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,639
that point. The person doesn't seem to respond, and even

938
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:17,800
in the email chain, they're saying, Hey, this person's not responding.

939
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,760
This is getting weird. We need to go out and

940
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,840
test this bone or whatever. And that's kind of where

941
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,159
we're at. I've there was a picture of the bone.

942
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:28,679
I should have said that there's a picture of the bone.

943
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,079
It's the very bottom of an email chain, and it

944
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:36,800
is a mandible. It's a bottom jawbone. It looks very thick.

945
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,039
There's a few teeth. The teeth, from what I understand,

946
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,239
they're different in number from what's usual. But that could

947
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,360
be because I've someone has told me that that could

948
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,920
be like a native a Native American thing or something

949
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,480
like that. But the teeth, look, there's not as many

950
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,480
as there should be from what it looks like. And

951
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:59,519
so I've had one person look at this. I don't

952
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,840
want to mention that name, but credible person works with

953
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,119
bones a lot, and he thinks it's very unique. He's

954
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:09,000
never seen anything like it. And he said that, yeah,

955
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:13,480
it could be what he thinks of baby Bigfoot. And

956
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,400
I was kind of obviously I wanted some more answers. Unfortunately,

957
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:21,639
all we have is one photo of that bone. So

958
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,599
I reached out to my friend Doug Hicheck. He was

959
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,519
the producer of Monster Quest and he's a pretty influential

960
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,599
name in the community, I should say, great guy, nice guy,

961
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,559
and so I asked him if he could take a

962
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,880
look at it. And he has sent that bone to

963
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,639
I believe, two different people to take a look at it.

964
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,400
So we're waiting on what they're gonna say about it.

965
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,559
We are waiting on that. But it's interesting. It is

966
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:53,239
an interesting looking bone. I'll just say that. Yeah. And

967
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,119
you hear about these stories about people with personal collections

968
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:01,920
and being locked away and stuff like that, and that's

969
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,639
actually what happened in this case. This guy was a biologist.

970
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:06,800
He knew what he was. He knew or didn't know

971
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,320
when he was looking at either way, it kind of

972
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,320
stumped him. So he's orded that bone for about thirty years.

973
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,559
The email chain was from two thousand and nine. So

974
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:19,599
I'm trying to get a little bit more information. Everything's

975
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:21,280
kind of coming up on a dead end so far,

976
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,760
but hopefully Doug will come back with some information. Even

977
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239
if it's a I really don't want to believe it's

978
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,360
a person, because if it is a person, then it's

979
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,360
a child and I don't want to, you know, I

980
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,719
don't want to think about what they went through unfortunately

981
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,920
out there. But it'll be interesting to see what does

982
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,599
come out of this because the bone does look weird,

983
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:45,639
it's thicker. The people have talked to so that Scott

984
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,679
you know, doesn't have as many teams. That should so

985
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,440
interesting stuff, I think. Yeah, I'll definitely try to make

986
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,039
it public when we hear about what it is. Obviously.

987
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of, you know, something I've thought

988
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:02,840
about over the years as people ask, you know, well

989
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,960
where are the bones? What would you even know one

990
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,840
if you saw one?

991
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: You know? Right?

992
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,599
Speaker 2: And here we have a situation where, like you're saying,

993
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:17,119
a biologist was stumped enough that he held onto it

994
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:20,880
for thirty plus years and it got passed on and

995
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,280
that person thought it was odd enough to reach out

996
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,679
and try to figure out what it was.

997
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's a weird looking bone that we're

998
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,519
hoping to get some answers on.

999
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: So what is your upcoming documentary are you going to

1000
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:37,400
focus on that you're working on?

1001
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the upcoming documentary is going to focus on the reports,

1002
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,039
the actual hard data of the nine on one phone calls,

1003
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:50,000
the police reports, the federal reports. I'm going to be

1004
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,639
going to the location I mentioned of the Harrison County

1005
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:55,559
phone call where that happened. I've spoken with a witness

1006
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:58,679
and maybe going up there very soon if we get

1007
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:01,000
some measurements, talk to them, see what comes out of that.

1008
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,559
And then also in that area, there was the infamous

1009
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:09,480
i should say Kasachi National Forest incident that took place

1010
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:12,320
in twenty twenty four where a group of kids had

1011
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,199
to be evacuated from Kassaschi National Forest because of a

1012
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,760
bipedal creature with like glowing eyes that was growling at them.

1013
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,280
And I have the ninety one to one phone call.

1014
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,079
We're going to be going to that area. I have

1015
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:29,159
the actual coordinates of that area. So I'm hoping to

1016
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:32,199
go back and finding like an abandoned campsite out there.

1017
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,800
How crazy would that be just to find a completely

1018
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,280
abandoned campsite where these kids were because they left in

1019
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,679
a hurry. The ranger went out there, took him several

1020
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,480
hours to get out there evacuated these kids. The only

1021
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:49,760
four YA information I got was from the Natatotia sheriff's office,

1022
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,800
which is the neighboring county, I guess from the Kassaschi

1023
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,239
National Forest. That's basically a national forest. It falls under

1024
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,840
the National Park you know, bureau or whatever. They should

1025
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,360
have had a report about this incident, especially since multiple

1026
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,159
kids were being evacuated. They had no information on it,

1027
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:12,800
absolutely none, which to me is kind of concerning that

1028
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,119
these kids had to be evacuated and the federal government

1029
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:17,599
is saying, yeah, we don't know anything about that.

1030
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.

1031
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,719
Speaker 1: That's just wild to me. That's really crazy. I don't know.

1032
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know a guy that went to the location,

1033
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,599
I think with one of the guys that had to

1034
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:29,440
be evacuated.

1035
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,079
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's wild. Yeah. I've spoken with the witness

1036
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:34,880
and they are younger people. I know that, and I'm

1037
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,440
trying to get him to go back out there, but

1038
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,360
I don't know if he wants to.

1039
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. So odd, especially whenever you know a specific event,

1040
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,199
it's recent, you know it happened, and then law enforcement

1041
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,320
is telling you that they have no record of it exactly.

1042
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:58,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unexplainable. So I'm sure you've probably heard about

1043
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,079
the the no taking of stuff eight Clause have you

1044
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:04,840
heard about this in Florida? Yes, okay, so I have

1045
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:08,639
without a doubt the reason why that was implemented. I

1046
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:11,519
did a Freedom of Information Act request and I actually

1047
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:14,920
did it through the US Parks and Wildlife, and I

1048
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,760
had actually we had a meeting, a phone meeting me

1049
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:25,599
the one of the managers of the department, I guess

1050
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,760
you should say, and then another one of his calling.

1051
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,800
We all had a three way meeting and I basically

1052
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,360
told him what I was looking for, and they thought

1053
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,480
it was really interesting, and so told him about that.

1054
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,119
A couple of months later, well a month or so later,

1055
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,639
they sent me back some information, and I think this

1056
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:45,000
is probably one of the more interesting pieces they sent me.

1057
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:48,360
It's the reason there is a no taking of stonecake clause.

1058
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,000
And I'll just read you the clag real quick. It's

1059
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,880
says specific hunt regulations hogs, no size or bag limit

1060
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,760
for POGs, take them all. Take the hogs during any

1061
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,000
hunt season except spring and waterfowl in designated archery areas

1062
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:06,440
only ce map only bows and crossbows allowed. Coyote may

1063
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,880
be taken during archery, muzzle loader, general gun and family

1064
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,360
hunt seasons. At the bottom, it says there is no

1065
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:17,199
taking of swamp or skunk apes. So that was a real,

1066
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,639
absolutely real document that or a document that was implemented,

1067
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:25,039
and I have the reason why that was split up

1068
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:27,840
here I have. This is the letter I'm going to

1069
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:33,280
read you guys. This was taken by the Refuge manager

1070
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:36,360
of one of the areas here. This was the reason

1071
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,960
I was implemented. It's a subject bigfoot or sasquatch in

1072
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,920
R two and R four those are thettle regions, and

1073
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,400
this is what he wrote. While I do not have

1074
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,000
an easily findable administrative record of this phone call, I

1075
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:56,719
may have a handwritten note in my yearly notebooks. In

1076
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,719
or around twenty eighteen, I received a phone call from

1077
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,360
this tell me who had a YouTube channel. In his

1078
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,079
phone call, the gentleman thanked the Refuge for stating in

1079
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:08,239
our annual hunt brochures that there's no taking of skunk

1080
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,719
or swamp apes during our hunt seasons. I was inclined

1081
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,320
to include this no take clause in the annual hunt

1082
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,800
brochure due to an undocumented in person conversation I had

1083
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,719
with a hunter who advocated me not to allow this

1084
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,760
and to clearly state it in our hunt brochure. This

1085
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,000
I did. The gentleman who had the YouTube channel then

1086
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:33,400
phoned me as he hunts in the Lower Swanee, NWR.

1087
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,280
He spoke with me for close to one hour and

1088
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,480
exhorted me to look at his channel and to see

1089
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:42,679
the lengthy interviews with Dixie and Lee County refuge hunters

1090
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,400
who witnessed the swamp or skunky that is what they

1091
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,000
refer to in this part of the United States. So

1092
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:55,480
that is the reason that was implemented. This person, this

1093
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,679
manager of the refuge, had a conversation with a hunter

1094
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,920
out there. I wonder what this hunter might have shown him,

1095
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,960
would have told him to convince this person to include

1096
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,599
that in there brochure. That's just wild to me.

1097
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: There's no way that was just a run of the

1098
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,199
mill conversation.

1099
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, And it's conveniently he said, it's conveniently. It's

1100
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,559
not I might have a note about it, you know,

1101
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:29,000
conveniently undocumented. That's what he said. That's just crazy to me. Yeah,

1102
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:31,320
So I would have really loved to see what this

1103
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,559
guy told him, what he showed him, But it was

1104
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:36,760
enough for him to be Okay, dude, you convince me,

1105
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,840
I'm putting that in there. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

1106
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:42,320
This guy was good enough to convince him let's put

1107
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,679
it in there.

1108
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,719
Speaker 2: Oh man, my mind's just racing with what it could

1109
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:50,960
have been. Like, I mean, I've heard I've had a

1110
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:56,519
guest on this show that had an absolute crazy encounter

1111
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,599
story from Florida. And this was a guy who's not

1112
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,920
in the bigfoot world or into Bigfoot at all. It

1113
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,639
was just a random chance thing where I ran across

1114
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,159
him on the Internet and was like, hey, would you

1115
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:15,960
mind sharing your story? And it's one that stands out

1116
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,119
for sure. I've heard some absolute crazy stories from Florida

1117
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:25,000
where I don't know. Everybody always talks about hearing that

1118
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:29,920
bigfoot are more aggressive in Oklahoma and Texas, but right

1119
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:33,320
it sounds like to me that there's some pretty aggressive

1120
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,719
stuff with the SKUNKCP going on.

1121
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, it definitely sounds like it. And I

1122
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,440
think they know a little bit more in the parks

1123
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,280
and stuff then they're kind of alluding to. Because with

1124
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,079
that same FOYA, I got an internal email basically kind

1125
01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:48,840
of this was never meant to, never meant to go

1126
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,960
to the public or whatever. But I'll just read a

1127
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,400
portion of it. The title of it is called track

1128
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,239
casts and it says, hey, lets mention the name. I

1129
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,320
checked the tracks today about eleven pm today. None of

1130
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,920
them were completely dry. The bigfoot track was most dry,

1131
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:07,679
but the tolls were still wet, probably because we use

1132
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,000
the remixed plaster on those and the plaster we mix

1133
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:12,599
in the field on the rest of the foot. I'm

1134
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:14,480
going to give them all another two days to dry

1135
01:03:14,519 --> 01:03:16,360
before I go back, before I go back out to

1136
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,960
get them, and it says if they're still not dry Wednesday,

1137
01:03:20,199 --> 01:03:21,960
I'll make some new ones on the tracks I can

1138
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,280
find out there with the correct plaster or Paris procedures.

1139
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,239
So right there, that's an employee of a park in

1140
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,400
Florida saying, Hey, I'm gonna be you know, casting those

1141
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,039
big foot tracks again for you, and if if those

1142
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,039
don't work, I'll go I'll go out to where there's

1143
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,159
more and i'll cast those. You're not saying like I'll

1144
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:41,480
fake some more or anything like that. Yeah, he's saying,

1145
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:43,119
I'll go to the area where we're seeing them and

1146
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,599
I'll get some more. To me, that's just crazy. This

1147
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:47,599
was never meant to see the light of day by.

1148
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: The public and just out calling them big foot tracks.

1149
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: Just like that wow, like they're all over the area.

1150
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,880
It's it's wild to me, but just nonchalantly saying it.

1151
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:00,280
I want to end it with I think is the

1152
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,559
greatest bigfoot sighting documentation I've ever I've ever received, I've

1153
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:08,559
ever seen before. And I got this through a Freedom

1154
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:13,880
of information active quest to the Federal Bureau of Indian Affairs,

1155
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,159
and I was I was really shocked at this one.

1156
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:19,000
They told me they had over like three thousand reports

1157
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,320
that they were like withholding or whatever. They only gave

1158
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,679
me one report, and it's freaking unbelievable. I can only

1159
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:27,880
imagine what the rest of these reports look like. And

1160
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,159
they sent me a folder that was the very this

1161
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,840
is line somewhere in an archive somewhere in the Bureau

1162
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,000
of Indian Affairs. The folder literally says incident report or

1163
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,440
incident report number two three one eight six, twenty five

1164
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:42,920
seventy eight. So this took place in nineteen seventy eight,

1165
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,599
and it says redacted residents, animal or bigfoot. That's what

1166
01:04:47,719 --> 01:04:51,079
it says in the file folder. And I'll just read

1167
01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:54,280
you what kind of kicked off everything. There's a multipage

1168
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,639
investigation that went on. We've got multiple agencies out there

1169
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:02,360
taking a look in what hurted everything was? It says

1170
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,519
it right here. June twenty fifth, nineteen seventy eight, on

1171
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:08,639
a Sunday, at around eight forty nine pm, this woman

1172
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:12,679
calls and it says narrative of information received redacted. Called

1173
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:16,159
and requested an officer to redact it. She advised she'd

1174
01:05:16,199 --> 01:05:19,440
seen an animal or bigfoot by her residence. Needs someone

1175
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,519
to check it out. And then it says see investigation report.

1176
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:27,639
So this woman basically called the authorities because she believed

1177
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:30,159
she had an encounter with a bigfoot. And I'm going

1178
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:33,400
to read you with a special agent in charge. The

1179
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,239
Federal Bureau agent wrote about this is that there's a

1180
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,480
handwritten thing from the witness and everything. It's a really

1181
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,119
cool it's a really cool thing. It says subject animal

1182
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:46,920
are bigfoot seen by residents and it's to the agency.

1183
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,159
Special officer Officer adacted. I checked the area where the

1184
01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:56,000
animal was seen. I had officer redacted and conservation officer

1185
01:05:56,119 --> 01:06:00,519
big redaction with me. Officer adacted myself walk up to

1186
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:04,280
where this animal was seen. The conservation officers drove up

1187
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,920
to the green water tank located above Galtz Euro Flats

1188
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,280
After checking the area, the only thing found which cracks

1189
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,840
belonging to a bear. Officer Adapted said he would put

1190
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,800
a bear trap in that area. Officer Adapted also advised

1191
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,280
that due to the dry weather, it is causing the

1192
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,960
animals to come down from the mountain looking for water

1193
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:28,280
and food. The persons who saw the animal were redacted.

1194
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:32,159
Both persons said that the animal they saw was standing

1195
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:35,760
up and his hands were in the air. Both subjects

1196
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,199
were frightened. They then began telling me. They then began

1197
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:42,760
telling me that they had heard that bigfoot was seen

1198
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,079
in Headsprings and what they saw they were sure was

1199
01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:49,280
a bigfoot. I advised them we would go up and

1200
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,320
check the area. So there you have it. I think

1201
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,079
that's crazy. You've got these native people on the Mescalero

1202
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:02,639
Apache Reservation in New Mexico encountering I believe a bigfoot

1203
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,719
and they know what a bear looks like.

1204
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:05,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know.

1205
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:08,039
Speaker 1: I think they know what a bigfoot looks like. Now,

1206
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:11,840
so I to me, this is and there's again there's

1207
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,840
a handwritten witness thing and everything. To me, this is

1208
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,159
the greatest bigfoot incident of all time. We've got multiple

1209
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:22,880
agencies involved, We've got the report. It's insane, like these

1210
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,719
people were so scared they called the reservation officer saying, hey,

1211
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:27,719
we need help with this. They went out there. At

1212
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,559
least at least six officers were out there investigating the area.

1213
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:33,679
We have no photos of these alleged bear tracks. I

1214
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:34,320
think they were just.

1215
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,119
Speaker 2: Kind of this is going to be the official statement

1216
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:38,599
on record.

1217
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: It was exactly exactly right. We don't have any bear prints,

1218
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,760
even though we should have photos and all that stuff,

1219
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,079
no measurements, they should have mentioned all that type of stuff. Nothing.

1220
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,119
But I think these people who've been in this area

1221
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:52,360
for a really long time know exactly what they saw.

1222
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,719
I think they saw a bigfoot And to me that's

1223
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,880
obvious just reading reading you know, their reports and stuff.

1224
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:02,639
Speaker 2: And they said that they had three thousand incidents that

1225
01:08:02,719 --> 01:08:04,079
they're not releasing.

1226
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had like three thousand, Yeah, three thousand documents

1227
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,320
they couldn't release. To me, Wow, this is just one

1228
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,880
that took place in nineteen seventy eighth. It's been hiding

1229
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,279
since nineteen seventy eight, and it's just it's fascinating to me.

1230
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,960
It's just incredible. I've heard of a lot of stuff

1231
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:26,520
happening on Native American reservations. You hear these stories, we

1232
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,800
have it. Now, we have it as it's a fact

1233
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,640
now that this has been reported, and it must have

1234
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,199
been reported more than once. They're talking about another siding

1235
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:36,520
that took place in Head Springs, which is like a

1236
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,279
neighboring area. So I think they have a lot more

1237
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:45,039
information than what they've released to me, And it's a shame.

1238
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:46,720
I don't think we're ever going to get that, but

1239
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,079
at least we got this disreport here, and I think

1240
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:52,039
it's really kind of like a gold standard. It's just

1241
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:54,880
it's incredible. It's from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. You're

1242
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,680
never going to get anything from an Indian reservation. Those communities,

1243
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,439
they don't they're not you know, they don't have to

1244
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,680
release anything, right, So yeah, this is just kind of

1245
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,840
a really lucky to get that report.

1246
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:14,399
Speaker 2: With the United States, what are the laws? What information

1247
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,279
are they required to give you whenever you put in

1248
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:17,960
a request?

1249
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,119
Speaker 1: Well, they have these exemptions and the inventions kind of

1250
01:09:21,239 --> 01:09:23,960
blocked in from a lot of stuff like and they're

1251
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:26,680
kind of blanket exemptions. They're really wise, so they can

1252
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,239
deny you for all types of stuff. Like one of

1253
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:32,359
the things I'll say, like, if it's a national security issue,

1254
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:35,039
they don't have to tell you. If it's an ongoing investigation,

1255
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:38,399
they don't have to tell you things like of that nature.

1256
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:43,640
And I have received the ongoing investigation when a couple

1257
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,880
of times I have gotten that. But a lot of

1258
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,479
this stuff it should be out for the general republic.

1259
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:53,560
But again, they'll use these kind of blanket exemptions to

1260
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,880
get away with not giving you everything. Like the same

1261
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,960
thing with the Florida thing. Florida was like, we have

1262
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:01,840
X amount of documents, but we can only give you

1263
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:07,720
X amount of documents just for you know, those exemptions.

1264
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,399
Really and again they're just kind of blanket exemptions that

1265
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:13,920
you can appeal. That's a thing you can't appeal. But

1266
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:18,319
I've never had really any luck and appeal. I think

1267
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:20,279
I did one. It was like a first state one,

1268
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,560
and that one I got lucky that they gained the

1269
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,079
information from that one. But they're pretty much saying like, oh,

1270
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,640
let's it's you know, let them appeal and then that'll

1271
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,920
give us like a year or two too kind of

1272
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,279
get their things in order to where they'll give you

1273
01:10:35,319 --> 01:10:38,199
more of a definition of why it was exempt or

1274
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:43,920
whatever on their time, on their time exactly, they'll deny

1275
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,319
it right away and they'll be like, oh, if he

1276
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:47,079
follows an appeal, and it'll be like a year and

1277
01:10:47,119 --> 01:10:49,439
we can we can get everything we need to. Basically

1278
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,119
says it's exactly because of this reason on their time.

1279
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as we move into the digital age,

1280
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,720
you know, I'm sure a lot of this stuff has

1281
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,159
been lost if it was ever kept to begin with.

1282
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,119
And yeah, it's just crazy to think about how much

1283
01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:12,000
stuff's been lost.

1284
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:15,359
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot, so much, So much

1285
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:19,319
stuff has been lost nine to one one phone calls videos.

1286
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,920
I remember I was trying to find an alleged video

1287
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:25,479
that was taken in East Texas in like the eighties.

1288
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,359
They clearly stated they recorded this and like sent it

1289
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:30,520
to the sheriff's office. It was a dead end. I

1290
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,920
haven't able to find anything on that, which I thought

1291
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,720
would have been very amazing. I have gotten that one photo,

1292
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,800
but that's because again I jumped on it literally the

1293
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,560
day it happened, or the next day it happens. So

1294
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,079
I mean we've lost it. Yeah. Again, We've just lost

1295
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:49,079
so much. We've lost more than we've gained. Unfortunately, that's

1296
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:49,560
the truth.

1297
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking forward to the book. Yeah, I'm going

1298
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:02,279
to enjoy going through this for sure. You know, if

1299
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:04,359
someone isn't me, how can they get the book.

1300
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: It's on Amazon. It is Bigfoot The Redacted Truth. My

1301
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,960
name is Eric Palassos and the author and you guys

1302
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,680
are interested in actually getting some hard datus, some reports

1303
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:20,680
that actually say Bigfoot in report. You know, please consider

1304
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,399
taking a look at my book. I think I think

1305
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,279
it's good for anyone's collection really to have because it's

1306
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:29,960
it's it's tangible, it's stat of it, it's it's there,

1307
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:33,079
it's it's something that I put a lot of work

1308
01:12:33,119 --> 01:12:36,079
into and I'm proud of it. And it's my first book.

1309
01:12:36,079 --> 01:12:38,720
So it's not gonna be perfect, but you know, hopefully

1310
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,600
i'll be able to with I still have a lot

1311
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,359
of foyers that are out right now, so we didn't

1312
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:45,720
get information back. So this goes well that I might

1313
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,119
try to write another one, maybe with that information about

1314
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:49,880
the bone that we get from Doug. I still have

1315
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,199
a lot of stuff that's a lot of irons in

1316
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:54,880
the fire that I'm waiting to get back.

1317
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like you to write another one. I

1318
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:03,840
would like you to keep on pursuing this interest. It's

1319
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,079
fascinating to me. And uh, you know, thanks for doing it,

1320
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,760
if someone hasn't already told you, I mean, because this

1321
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,920
is a lot of time, effort, and money that goes

1322
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,479
into this project. And I for one, appreciate you doing it.

1323
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,159
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. That means a lotting and I

1324
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:24,560
appreciate what you do what you do. You're you're an

1325
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,199
independent and I you know, we've talked personally about how

1326
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:32,319
I feel about people being independent stuff like that, and yeah, no,

1327
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,319
I really appreciate what you're doing. Well.

1328
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: Thanks man. Maybe we can do some stuff together.

1329
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: Uh, definitely personally.

1330
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: You know, something that would be interesting to me is

1331
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,279
if you expanded outside of Bigfoot eventually.

1332
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, I do have some reports that are I

1333
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,880
have some Beast of Ray Road reports that I've got

1334
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,760
from Walworth County. It's really weird, it's really crazy. Uh.

1335
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:02,600
And then I have some did you hear a lot

1336
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,199
of that LBL talk and stuff. I do have some

1337
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:09,319
files from the LBL. I don't know about that whole

1338
01:14:09,399 --> 01:14:12,479
massacre type of thing, but I have a really crazy

1339
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,680
story of them finding human remains in the lake there,

1340
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,039
which is just that the whole story is crazy. I

1341
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:23,520
have all the documentation for it, really wild stuff. So maybe, yeah,

1342
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,760
I might. I might do something to where it's just

1343
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:31,279
encompasses all these just weird reports that aren't necessarily Bigfoot related,

1344
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:34,119
but I would consider it encrypted related for sure.

1345
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:40,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hyenas man, Yeah, there are so many hyaena reports

1346
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,159
that I had. I've heard no clue, but like I

1347
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,720
talked to someone that like a lot of hyena reports

1348
01:14:49,119 --> 01:14:53,399
for some reason, or things that are hyena shaped and

1349
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,079
resemble hyaenas in places that they shouldn't be.

1350
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: I've heard about that in like West Texas. I have

1351
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,720
heard of stuff like that, big big canines out there.

1352
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,560
My daddy can said again, an interaction with like a

1353
01:15:04,039 --> 01:15:06,159
big caneine. Yeah, weird. Stust.

1354
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,159
Speaker 2: Well, Eric, thanks for joining me and coming on and

1355
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:12,000
talking about this stuff. I've really enjoyed it. I will

1356
01:15:12,039 --> 01:15:16,039
definitely have you back again, and I hope the listeners

1357
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:17,319
enjoyed it as much as I did.

1358
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,520
Speaker 1: All Right, I appreciate you having me on and we'll

1359
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,560
definitely be talking soon.

1360
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've had your own encounter with Bigfoot or

1361
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,800
something else you can't explain, you'd like to report it

1362
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,359
to me email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com.

1363
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,760
Check out the website Bigfoot Crossroads dot com. You can

1364
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,640
find links to the social media, merchandise, past episodes, everything

1365
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,760
you need all in one place, and until next time,

1366
01:15:39,840 --> 01:16:06,720
remember there's something in the woods.

1367
01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:02,319
Speaker 1: U