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Speaker 2: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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Speaker 3: All these things and.

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Speaker 2: More are revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

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Speaker 3: So join Mac and the rest of the game one

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one switchy.

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Speaker 2: Club Susan Ka and Uncle Leo Brandy X an Agent

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and space. This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files and now.

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Speaker 3: Here Mac.

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Speaker 4: Well, Good evening, everyone, Welcome to Mac Maloney's Military Styles

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show here in the Distant thunder Or Radio Network. Boom

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boom boom, hmm Wow should we start OLAF warning keep

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I keep missing the cue stat a style Alova, how's

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all a kidding? Well, good evening, he'd win, and welcome

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to Macloney's the Military Style Show Here in the distant

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thunder Or Area Network. This is macaroney. We're broadcasting live

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from the Stopping Yelly Restaurant, fifty five Water Street, and

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we bought Massa Choosetts Great Seafood Restaurant, quaid Hamburger's Great

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Steak and Cheese Sammy and anything they do with onions.

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Speaker 3: To die from them.

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Speaker 4: We've could sue you tonight. The first will you introduced

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the members of the Posse Girls, he's here. You've been

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healing him for the past couple of weeks, I guess.

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So seat yourselfs down, get your fian get your big

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box of cleaner's, your big box of wipe squeegee, and

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you Lou because he's here, the very famous woman Wong.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, Hello girls and all ships at sea, everybody

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listen to the show. Thank you for being on the

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radio with us. And I'm glad to be here Mac,

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and I hope my vibe has transferred across the land

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with all the snow that we had, but you know

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what it was, it was melting before my eyes today. Yeah,

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me too. It's a beautiful thing. I got my shorts

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on and everything.

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Speaker 4: Literally shoveling snow last Friday, Yeah, good Friday. And then

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today it was seventy seven degrees in the area. Seventy

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seven degrees? Are are people down the beach? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I bet?

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Speaker 4: And then tomorrow it's going to be six, you know what,

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a forty degrees again?

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Speaker 3: And back then I saw beautiful ladies jogging with their

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gym stuff on them, those really tight shortsh what do

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you call those things? Really tight shorts?

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Speaker 4: God, it's like skin. Okay, you know what I mean?

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Holy moly, they're called child support child what.

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: You can see everything. I don't know what you call

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that clothing, but I know I know it's popular in

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the gym or yoga, the yoga stuff, right, but it's

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not long pants, it's shorts.

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Speaker 4: Huh okay, all right, maybe we should start over.

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Speaker 3: That's why I like about warm weather. Who does it?

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Speaker 4: Anyway? One one, thanks for joining you. It's in the

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studio with us. Is that producer engineer I get away

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drive a bee Killer had a couple of emails about

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the bees the other day. Uh, uncle, wole the kidies fail?

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Now we're not though, well.

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Speaker 6: Well mac hello one one, Hello, Well everybody, beast flying

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around today. I did not get over really that close

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to them. I was up in a telephone pole near them,

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but I really didn't pay attention. You're doing up there? Tapping?

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Why it tapping? Someone to fix one of my security cameras?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, somehow the antenna broke really yeah, which

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I thought was really I mean in the wind. To

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replace it in the wind, I climbed up there and

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I get the ladder on the telephone pole and go

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up and uh huh, camera, but the antenna is broken.

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Speaker 4: Nice time you r up there? Just to me, favorite

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point the camera away from Lois's bedroom windows. That one

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does the side driveway, the other ones that are a

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lot closer. Well, he knows there's the location in my windows.

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Speaker 6: Good good to know. That was uh summer today's fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good time.

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Speaker 4: Also with US is uh security chief men around the world.

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I forget his, I forget his his real title? Yeah,

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what is it? Also with us is our international security

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chief and man about willed renowned Willie Club cat.

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Speaker 3: Like Susan's cat, Jesus.

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Speaker 4: A little early for the cat, isn't it a good

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name for a British pub Susan's cat the Susan's Cat Pub.

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There is a joke in the baby But anyway, club,

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how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Club?

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Speaker 7: You know I'm doing great? Yeah, you know I have

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I have spring fever today?

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Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 7: I got a spring in my step? Is that what

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they call it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? If you say so? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So so you know, you just wake up and you

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get that big feel in the swing feeling or whatever.

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Speaker 3: One of the other.

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Speaker 7: I think I'm on my game.

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Speaker 3: You just want to take off all your clothes and

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just scream and run down the street. Hell no, you

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don't know.

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Speaker 8: Grease out first, Okay, they can't catch Yeah, that's that's

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another thing that women do.

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Speaker 3: They grease up. What do they listen? Canola oil, coconut

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oils oil? Only where do you live? Anyway? Must have

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been a UK thing. Club.

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Speaker 4: Listen behind you, there's Chris go Okay, yeah it works,

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Jesus club. Is that a Celtics thing in the background

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or just a generic Saint Patrick's Day thing?

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Speaker 7: It's a generic good luck shown for St.

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Speaker 4: Patrick's has a huge shamrock on as well. Where the

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Patriots jersey was for seventeen weeks.

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Speaker 7: That's the season's over, that's all. Well, that unless they win.

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Speaker 4: Well, see talk about me jumping off the bandwagon. They

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have to win for you to leave it up. You

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don't have that team loyalty.

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Speaker 3: Win. You came in my house.

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Speaker 7: The Patriots is everywhere everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I believe they haven't done anything in the draft. So yeah, yeah,

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they did.

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Speaker 4: Well, they they Yeah, but they didn't do a big

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splash yet. I wish they got that guy from the

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Raid is there, Max Crowsby?

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Speaker 3: Is that his name?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I went.

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Speaker 10: Super tupa but they out there. Yeah, we'll be fine, Yeah,

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it'll be okay. Uh So any anything good with you there, klubby?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, the same old stuff with me. Just

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a lot going on, you know what it's like, Yes,

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but you know, other than that, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Just doing just me good. That's good, okay.

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Speaker 7: And I like I like some days. I I like

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me better than others, as you know.

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Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, and today's just one.

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Speaker 7: Of them up days, like I And again it's I

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think it's rather related.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for sure, other than storms and blizzards

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and stuff at seventy seven degrees, wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: It's just great to be here with all our friends

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right in your move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good.

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Speaker 8: Contagious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, contagious.

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Speaker 8: I can feel it. I can feel it.

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Speaker 3: The word.

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Speaker 4: Also with us down there in North Carolina, the good

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Carolina is a good friend, super fan. Susan. Kay, Susan,

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How are you Susan?

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Speaker 11: Hi?

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Speaker 12: Everybody?

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Speaker 4: Are you look good? To see you, to see you.

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She sent out some images the other day, her riding

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her husse ruddy Tudie ready attitude.

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Speaker 12: Okay, yes, and I had no saddle sound.

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Speaker 3: I like riding bear back? Which which was bear the horse?

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Speaker 4: Get too many hemorrhoids from see Okay, and it goes

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down that road immediately know it is that's a big

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cause of hemorrhoids. Yeah, I was gonna say, wow, I

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believe is that how a horse? They hid hidden secrets

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of cowboys? That's what was probably I was shooting each

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other because they had hemorrhids. Thank you, Club, I mean

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thank you, Susan. Thanks club for that cormentary. Also with

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us is a good friend up there in Wisconsin, Kingland, Brandy,

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Thanks Brandy.

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Speaker 3: How are you hi?

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Speaker 13: Everybody.

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Speaker 14: I'm so happy to see everybody again. I missed everybody

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so much.

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Speaker 4: Well today tonight she looks like Sarah Palein have to

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take a twenty mile ride with her Conrol top down.

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Was that the look you're looking for?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 13: Exactly, believably, Yes, that is the look I was going.

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Speaker 4: Well, you made it, you pulled it off. So how's

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things for you there?

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Speaker 3: Brandy?

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Speaker 13: Just great?

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Speaker 4: And how much snow do you have? You were writing

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to me saying send the snow out, we were getting

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to you, so that's kind of odd.

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Speaker 14: It was sixty degrees yesterday so most of it melted,

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but we are supposed to get three to six overnight

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tonight and it's already snowing.

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Speaker 4: All right, really, so you're happy then? Okay, Wow, she's

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also feeling good. Then excellent. Let's move on. Also with us,

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we're going to clap this guy in first instead of

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singing the Canadian national anthem because joining us up there

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from Edmonton to Nada is the newest member of the Posse.

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Permanent member of the Posse is Kim Shah. Let's clap

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from it. There is bowing, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 8: I am completely blowing away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sir, Well, you know you've been a you know,

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you've been a Palavis for many years and now here

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you are yeah, no.

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Speaker 8: Time flies, doesn't it. Yeah, it's fine, that's what it is. Really,

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it's really just kind of zooms by, just a good conversation,

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you know, it's it's it's godly for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, now you're run one of the sofa and indicted

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co conspirators. That might change it anymore. Thank you Kim

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for joining us. What's the what's the weather up there?

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You sent me a you sent me a text A

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seventy mile an hour wins.

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Speaker 3: The other night.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the week started off rough, but today is like

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calm and probably about thirty eight forty f is that zero.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of nice. It's like it's not windy, so

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that makes it really nice.

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Speaker 4: Winds are pretty, those are pretty. That's uh.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't remember a windstorm like that here ever,

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like ever, no, not in the wintertime. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

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hitting seventy miles an hour is yeah. Yeah, it's just

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like every every pebble, everything, every piece of snow was flying.

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Speaker 1: It was like that.

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Speaker 8: I think the like that was like about a twenty

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foot maybe vision there when it was doing it. I

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mean really yeah, very very dangerous. I think everybody just parks.

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So that's the main thing to stop, don't move, don't move.

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Speaker 13: Jeez.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, I didn't hear anybody getting hurt, so that's a

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good thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks Kim for joining us. We appreciate we're going

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to clap for you a third time. We were going

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to not over clapping this.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to do so.

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Speaker 8: I'm with club.

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Speaker 4: We're going to do a a cappella version of the

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Canadian national anthem. But we only knew the first line?

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What was it on Canada?

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Speaker 3: And what's what?

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Speaker 1: What's you say? Have to be.

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Speaker 3: Okay? What's what's what's the what's the whole line?

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Speaker 4: What's the second? I know Canada?

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Speaker 8: You guys are gonna test me.

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Speaker 11: Now, let's all right, I can probably.

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Speaker 3: That's I told you. It was a French.

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Speaker 8: Love you so much.

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Speaker 3: It's very sure. Too bad about the Olympics. We be

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for ass and all over the I.

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Speaker 8: Know we got Ernie, but we got Karnie. We got

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Karnie right.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Also with us tonight, joining us for the first part

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of the show, looking his best concentration. God, look, I

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haven't seen it this accurate in a long time. Is

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lonely Larry lonely Larry. I suppose we should clap for

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him because he is lonely. Larry.

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Speaker 3: How you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bummed out today, actually mummed out.

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Speaker 3: Why what are you bummed out about?

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Speaker 11: I quit my spin class?

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Speaker 4: Did you.

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Speaker 8: Anywhere?

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Speaker 1: You quit?

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Speaker 4: Or they threw you out? Did you quit your don't

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tell me I did?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I just I said, I just wasn't getting anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's the joke.

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Speaker 4: I said, Oh my goodness, Okay, huh maybe we should

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get around now.

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Speaker 3: I liked it so so uh so, Larry, it's the

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jokes that you think is just conversation, right, that gets

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the attention. It's like, is it really to think about

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spin class? That's the ladies.

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Speaker 1: Got it.

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Speaker 4: That's where I went with it. But anyway, so see,

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the thing what Larry is is I'll try to do

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it in a short version. So he owes me a

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little bit of money, right, and the only way that

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he tells me he's going to pay it back is

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if he can get some gigs as a stand up comedian.

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That's how desperate we are. And so he wants to

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come on and he's come on for the you know,

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for the past couple of months. He comes out of

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every once in a while to try some new material

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to see how it works. So he's here again. Okay,

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is that the you know? Is that the bid day Larry?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that that's it. It's a good thing to do.

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It's just a little bit of money.

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Speaker 3: Do you see? The practice? Is craft? Right's right? Exactly?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So without further ado, here is Larry's latest stand

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up act. I think he has like ten jokes jokes

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and coach, go ahead, Larry, go ahead. Can you speak

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a little?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Can he get near to the microphone so we can all.

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Speaker 3: Rule number one. If you're going to just stand up,

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you've gotta be close to the microphone. It's all about

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he won't be iming delivery. Uh, poise up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he won't be able to stand up.

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Speaker 3: They ask you. If they ask you, we'd rather sit

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down than you. Didn't make the grade?

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Speaker 8: Are you?

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Speaker 11: Is this loud enough?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Okay? All right, Larry, get no respect.

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Speaker 11: When I was born, the doctor slapped my mother.

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Speaker 4: Okay I heard that, but okay, all right, I had

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no respect.

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Speaker 11: That was a kid. I played hide and seek. No

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one will look would look for me.

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Speaker 3: It slowed down a little bit. Yeah, let it, let

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it breathe, let it show breeze. In case your audience

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is still pondering the punchline.

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Speaker 11: They're not not much to ponder there. My wife and

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I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.

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Speaker 4: Okay, number seven's the background laughter for this. Well, okay,

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one one just stepped on that great show once again.

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Speaker 11: Okay. I looked up my family tree and found out

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I was the sap.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, please, that's're gonna say a cat was up there.

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Speaker 11: I asked my old man if I could go ice

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skating on the lake. He told me, wait till it

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gets warm.

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Speaker 3: Number five, please, I could tell.

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Speaker 11: My parents hated me. My bath, I could tell my

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parents hated me. My toys were a toaster and a radio.

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Speaker 4: My bath toys were a toaster in the radio. Okay,

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well five.

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Speaker 11: I remember the time I was kidnapped. They sent a

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piece of my finger to my father. He said, I

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want more proof.

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Speaker 4: This is Larry Loman, Larry trying out his new stand

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up material. Go ahead, Larry.

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Speaker 11: I told my wife I was seeing a psychiatrist. She

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told me she was seeing a psychiatrist. Two plumbers and

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a bartender.

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Speaker 1: And her.

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Speaker 3: I t guy, there you go, just to watch it.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: That is testimony sex with.

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Speaker 11: Me only for a purpose. Last night it was the

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time and egg.

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Speaker 4: Do that one again, please, And in case the kids missed.

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Speaker 11: My wife will only have sex with me for a purpose.

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Last night it was the time and egg.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we got that right, all right, next, please, Larry.

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Speaker 11: I told my wife she should embrace her mistakes. She

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hugged me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, even the drama fell asleep in that one.

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Speaker 11: I get no respect. My parents moved a lot, but

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I always found them.

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Speaker 4: All right, this is almost this is hopefully I did

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no respect.

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Speaker 11: I played in the sandbox. The cat kept covering me up.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hopefully you have a big finish, do you.

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Speaker 11: We're at the end here, Okay, I get no respect.

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I bought a dog. He keep he keeps bringing me

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to the park and leaving me there. Now, that was

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unfil That last one was kind of unfulfilling. So I

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got I've got one here.

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Speaker 4: You have one of your own little visual thing.

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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, well yeah yeah, okay, So I was, I was,

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I was playing this, you know, the kids game this,

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you know, and and it was and I got I

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sustained a pretty serious injury. I spent a week in

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the peekaboo.

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Speaker 7: I see you.

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Speaker 4: How how much money do you want me? I'm never

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going to see this. Well, well, Larry, uh, keep at it.

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I would say, don't let anyone, I would say your

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dream exit stage left. Yeah, go quickly. All right, let's

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clap for him so he won't totally feel bad. Now

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you're going to go play pool? Is that the angle?

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Speaker 11: Yes? I hope I do better there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, so little self criticism goes a long way.

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Thank you, Larry. And they'll talk too soon. Okay, all right, okay,

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job listen. Do you want to quickly tell you men's

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room story? Or is that something the back.

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Speaker 11: Out a concert Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead? And what concert was it?

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Speaker 16: Bad sneakers, bad sneakers, A steely dan? Oh yeah, go ahead,

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And so you know it's it's it's all. It's all

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old guys pretty much in the in the audience. Of course,

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they have an intermission so people can get up and pee.

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So so I'm in the I'm in the men's room

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and and all the urinals are I met.

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Speaker 8: One of the urinals.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, ladies, to bring up a gross subject, and they're

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all they're all occupied. Yes, So the people are stacking

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up behind me, and one of them comes in and

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he says, full house, at which point I reached up,

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pulled the handle. I said, your full house meets my

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flush coming all right, timing, timing it brought it brought

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the men's room down.

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Speaker 3: Did it really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's to be proud of.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say, let me see

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your hand and I'll show your mind.

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Speaker 4: Wait, hey, well listen you you work in the small rooms.

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That's good.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 11: Next to me, by the way, he kind of nudges

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me that we're close together, he said, he looks down.

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He says, look at that. That's that's a that's a

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four fingered grip. I said, yeah, but you're pissing on

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three of them.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Why did I ask him? He could have?

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, the dog leaving him in the

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park was kind of a high note. He could have

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left then. Okay, so let's let's kind of clap from

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let's the kind of luke wama bas Larry, Thank you, Larry. Okay,

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we'll see you soon. Good luck with your career.

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Speaker 3: Let us start when you're going to be appearing or disappearing,

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whatever the case at McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: Guys, with that, all right, thanks for appearing, so thanks

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for appearing. So anyway, okay, well after that, for Rality,

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you know what we should do?

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Speaker 3: Why don't we do?

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Speaker 4: We should we just piv because we have the guests

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coming on at later on in the show. Who is

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going to convince us that the earth is flat and

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it's Lucifer's fault. So Lucifer's Lucifer is reason Luifer is

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that his name, Lucifer is the reason that we apparently

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live on a flatter Yeah, so let's see what happens.

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So we should pivot to Brandy because Brandy has a report, Right, Brandy,

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I do have you given us the hot yet?

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Speaker 13: They haven't?

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Speaker 4: Please and clap Susan. Susan's clapping, we're going to call it.

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Speaker 3: So was that a hot? Was that a hot club?

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Or was that something? I think Susan is working a

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little one finger hot.

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Speaker 4: The one finger hot, that's the stint in this hot. So,

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uh so, what's your what's the topic tonight, Brandy?

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Speaker 14: Happic tonight is the miraculous spiral staircase of the Loretto Chapel.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice, Okay, go ahead, please okay.

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Speaker 14: So for this report I used a book by Joe Nicol,

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the Citrus County Chronicle online, the National Catholic Register, Cup

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of Joe podcast, The Body of Santa dom and Loretto

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Community dot org and Loretto Chapel dot com. So this

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miracle took place in Santa Fe, New Mexico, in the

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nineteenth century. Although Mexico, New Mexico did not become a

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state until nineteen twelve, the capital of Santa Fe was

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actually established in sixteen oh eight, and it's the oldest

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capital city of any state in the country. And in

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the eighteen hundreds they were establishing Catholic missions due to

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westward expansion, and they were springing up in the southwest

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in California, and there was a French missionary in the

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Southern States named John the Baptiste LeMay, and he had

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this vision that he was supposed to build a chapel

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in the southwest of the US. And so in eighteen

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fifty two he and seven nuns traveled from Kentucky in

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a covered wagon and on horseback and on foot for

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over one thousand miles to Santa Fe in order to

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start this Girl's Academy there, which was the first or

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one of the first schools west of the Mississippi, and

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the mother Superior actually died along the way because the

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trip was so difficult, so when they got there, it

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was him and seven nuns to establish the school. They

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thought they were there to enlighten the people of the Southwest,

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and so after the school was built, Father le May

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thought he had to build a chapel, and the archbishop

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at the time commissioned a father and son architectural team

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of Antoine and Projectice Mooley, who were from France, and

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they drew up plans for this chapel and construction on

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the chapel began in eighteen seventy three and they used

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locally wrought sandstone to build the chapel, and by eighteen

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seventy four the father Antoine Mulei, his eyes became so

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bad that he had to go back to France and recuperate,

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which left his son to complete the chapel on his own.

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So it took years, and by eighteen seventy eight the

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chapel was pretty much complete, and it was the first

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of its kind in the Southwest, and it was in

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the Gothic Revival style, and it had stained glass windows

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that came from France, and statues that came from France,

474
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and an organ that came from France. But before the

475
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,440
interior was completely finished, in eighteen seventy nine, the son

476
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:56,839
architect projectis died of pneumonia. And so there was a

477
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,440
choir loft at the back of this chapel that was

478
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,400
twenty two feet high that didn't have a stairway to

479
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,400
it because the only thing that wasn't completed was the stairway.

480
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 13: So they had been using a ladder to get up

481
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,039
and down for construction, but the.

482
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 14: Nuns in their habits did not want to have to

483
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,400
climb up and down this ladder to get to the

484
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:23,160
choir loft. They tried four years to hire someone to

485
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,519
complete a staircase to the loft, but no one was

486
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,319
skilled enough to complete it, and one carpenter told the

487
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,839
sisters that only a master of sacred geometry could come

488
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,039
up with a working solution for the staircase because of

489
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,480
the space that was so limited. So finally the legend

490
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,119
or into the legend, and that is that the sisters

491
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,440
got together and prayed this novella, which is a Nine

492
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:54,400
Day Prayer, and they prayed to Saint Joseph, who is

493
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:58,119
the patron saint of carpenters, and they asked him for help.

494
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,000
He is the father of Jesus, and he's also known

495
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,960
as the silent Silent Saint because there are.

496
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 13: No quotes from him in the Bible.

497
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,839
Speaker 14: And at the end of the novella the Nine Day Prayer,

498
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:20,440
a mysterious stranger arrived on supposedly a donkey, and he

499
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,960
had just a few hand tools, carpentry hand tools with him,

500
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,279
and he seemed to have just mysteriously appeared out of

501
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,039
the desert sand. He told the sisters he was there

502
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,440
to build a staircase for them, but he said if

503
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,200
he was going to do that, he had to have

504
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:43,400
complete privacy and they couldn't watch him. And so they

505
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,759
actually adjusted their worship schedule around his building schedule. And

506
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,680
at the end of six months or different accounts at

507
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,759
different times, some say three months and some say only

508
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:56,160
a week.

509
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 13: Anyway, at the end of.

510
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Speaker 14: That whatever time period it was, the stranger was suddenly gone,

511
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,519
and the sisters entered the chapel to find a spiral

512
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,759
staircase leading from the main floor into the choir loft.

513
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,039
The stranger did not even collect payment for the construction,

514
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:20,359
and so the sisters checked the lumber yards in the area,

515
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,839
and no lumberyard had a record for any purchase for

516
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,880
the convent. Because they thought maybe they had a bill,

517
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,319
or he had left the bill with a lumberyard. Nobody

518
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,839
had ordered any lumber for the convent, and nobody had

519
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,319
a bill for them. And one account that I read

520
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,480
said that they the lumberyards actually placed like a personal

521
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:44,720
ad in the newspaper looking for the builder, but nobody

522
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,680
ever came forward. So the finished twenty two foot tall

523
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:53,200
spiral staircase was completed in eighteen eighty one, and it

524
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:57,200
was considered miraculous by the sisters for a few reasons.

525
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: Okay.

526
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 14: First of all, it was constructed without any nails or

527
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,079
screws at all.

528
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

529
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:10,119
Speaker 14: Secondly, it made two complete rotations for seven hundred and

530
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,920
twenty degrees and did not have an internal supporting column.

531
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,319
Speaker 13: To brace it with.

532
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, yeah.

533
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:19,359
Speaker 13: Number three.

534
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 14: There were exactly thirty three steps, which is a sacred number.

535
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,480
It's the number of years that Christ supposedly lived. It's

536
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:36,200
also a sacred number in the Masonic Order, which are

537
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,079
known as craftsmen.

538
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: Thank you, Kim, thank you, It's all yeah. Also, Larry

539
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,119
Bird's number, isn't it? I'm sorry, go.

540
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: Ahead please, you would know.

541
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 14: It's also in numerology and occult circles a divine master,

542
00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:07,400
craftsman teacher number, so that anyway, that was significant. Number four,

543
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,039
the wood that was used to build the staircase was

544
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,720
like no other wood known to be found on earth.

545
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,519
And I'll get into that in a minute, okay. And

546
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:22,680
number five, the mystery builder apparently was an answer to

547
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,759
the nuns prayers, and in fact they completely believed that

548
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,559
the builder was Saint Joseph himself, who appeared in human

549
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,000
form and built the staircase.

550
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

551
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,799
Speaker 6: I just want to just stop that, Brandy. I I

552
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,680
just looked up you know, that staircase on my phone.

553
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,839
It just showed me a picture of it, the picture

554
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,039
of it holy, but but but but but incredible. How

555
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,079
what is the I mean, I even can't describe what

556
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,599
this is. How's the physics of that? There's nothing in

557
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,400
the nothing in the I mean, it's beautiful, Oh my god,

558
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,559
what beautiful. It's It's like a real work about it

559
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,279
is stunning.

560
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,559
Speaker 3: But can you do can you do that?

561
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Can you?

562
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,359
Speaker 3: How can you do? You figured out a way to

563
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,279
do it. I don't know how you support it, but

564
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,279
it's that's part of.

565
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 13: Why it's considered miraculous. But we're going to get into that.

566
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:20,519
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Please can you put that video in

567
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,440
front of the camera kind of zoom? Can you put

568
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480
it in front of the camera that that shot? It

569
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:30,519
seems okay because I was going to try to about

570
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:31,039
the video.

571
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: You can see front of the.

572
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: Now that's a polling picture. I'll train that picture.

573
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,039
Speaker 13: It's actually like a double heeli.

574
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, na yeah, the universe. Yeah, that's good, that's good.

575
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

576
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: What year was this branding? What year was that was?

577
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 13: It was completed in eighteen eighty one?

578
00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:02,799
Speaker 3: Wow? What time? All right? So it defies construction quality

579
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,200
in terms of structure. Yeah, it looks like a lot some.

580
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 6: Curved wood on the bottom suspending it. But yeah, to

581
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:13,799
curve that kind of wood, man, you.

582
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: Need a lot of You gotta heat it, and you

583
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,640
gotta get and you got to wait a lot of

584
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,839
time to curve that. You got to really do some

585
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,440
fancy work.

586
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,079
Speaker 4: Well, unless you're around the sun is the sun of God? Yeah,

587
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:29,240
just twisted for you. Go ahead, please bring it, okay.

588
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 14: So, because the staircase was basically a floating corkscrew that

589
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,640
was attached at the top and attached on the floor,

590
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,319
it actually had a buoyancy to it, so it made

591
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,000
it feel like you were floating as you ascended and

592
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:50,160
descended it, and it actually had a springing effect. It

593
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,839
was built originally without a banister, though, so there was

594
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,640
no handrail, and so it was extremely dangerous for the

595
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,279
nuns to climb up and down, and so reportedly in

596
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,400
their diaries, the nuns said that they were so scared

597
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
of falling that they would climb up on their hands

598
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,599
and feet like a crab climb, and then like sit

599
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,800
down backwards and like move from step to step on

600
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,079
their behind coming down, so they didn't fall.

601
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: Okay. Can I just insterrupt for just one second? Okay,

602
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,519
only because I went through Catholic elementary school.

603
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

604
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: So this whole thing started because the nuns were bitching

605
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,320
about how they couldn't go up there in the first place, right, yes,

606
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:33,760
So then they go through somehow this saint appears, comes

607
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,159
in and builds this miraculous literally miraculous staircase, and they're

608
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,760
still bitching about it, am I right? Okay, okay, go on.

609
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,239
This sounds like typical muns.

610
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 7: But can I can I ask a question, Yes, where

611
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,039
did Joseph come back again to do the railing?

612
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: Ya?

613
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 13: That is a good question.

614
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 14: In eighteen eighty seven, the railings and a banister were installed,

615
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:04,880
and one of the resources that I used was an

616
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,760
interview with this master carpenter that I'll get into a

617
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,119
little bit more, but in this section anyway, He stated

618
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,960
that back in the day and even now, people that

619
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:24,480
make staircases make staircases, and separate craftsmen make the banisters

620
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:26,239
and railings even today.

621
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: And so.

622
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 13: This, whoever, this builder, whoever this was at.

623
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 14: The time, would have thought my job is done because

624
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,320
the job of making the banister and the railing would

625
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,320
have fallen on someone else. They just didn't commission anybody

626
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960
for it until six years later.

627
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,199
Speaker 3: I didn't do a novena for that. I don't know.

628
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:55,760
They're too busy climbing up and down the thing.

629
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,039
Speaker 1: Wow.

630
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: Okay, so already these mun's calling posy a lot of trouble.

631
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: But I was literally a stairway to heaven.

632
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 13: Wasn't it literally? Exactly?

633
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,199
Speaker 14: Okay, So regarding the wood, used that supposedly is like

634
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,320
no other wood on earth in nineteen oh and let

635
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,960
me mention, I'm sorry, uncle Al. The soppet underneath the

636
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,960
stairs that you said was so beautiful and carved out

637
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,519
of like a curving piece of wood or whatever, is

638
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,320
actually more like a veneer that was installed when the

639
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,840
banister was installed. Because again, that would not have been

640
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,159
something that the original constructor of the stairs themselves would

641
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,360
have added would have done, so that was actually added

642
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,000
when the banisters were at it.

643
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 13: But it's beautiful, so he said.

644
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,199
Speaker 3: I'm here to do the stairs, lady. So the bill right, Yeah, you.

645
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: Guys like that, I mean to bend wood that thick

646
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:10,119
that long into that form, you would need a serious

647
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,920
amount of equipment and a heavy duty like autoclave thing

648
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,159
you could shove it into and get it hot and

649
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,800
wet enough you could spin it.

650
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:19,599
Speaker 4: So that's how you do it. You get you soak

651
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:22,000
it and then you get it hot and then it's

652
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:23,280
pliable a little bit.

653
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, but this thing, Lent, I'm sorry to keep

654
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,400
interrupting you, Brandy. I went into a place in Ipswich

655
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,159
where they make the collars that go on the masts

656
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,079
of ships yep, the old wooden ships and this guy

657
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,599
still makes them the same way. And he has a

658
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,320
trough of like this water with some kind of soapy

659
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,960
mix in it, and he has electric heaters like from

660
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,760
a water heater and shoved into both ends of it,

661
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:54,840
and he soaks the wood in there to get it

662
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:56,400
like basically steaming it.

663
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When he pulls it out, they can

664
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,039
twist hoard it into the shape and lock it. Yeah.

665
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,599
Once it drives and it's it's in that shape for good. Yeah.

666
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:07,360
This guy would do little ones.

667
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 6: Wow, And it was a big project doing that stairways

668
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,119
way he did it a trailer truck. You need a

669
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,920
piece of equipment trailer truck size to put that piece

670
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,360
of wood in. You need a whole bunch of people

671
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,920
to be twisting it and a lot of vices to

672
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,039
hold it down right and to make it twist conforming.

673
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't like all over the place heaven that would.

674
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, like one guy on a donkey with some carpentry tools.

675
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

676
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 17: Now that fits the bill for freemasons and what they

677
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,440
do too, and under anonymous pretenses right like where they

678
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,239
do stuff that none of us would ever know about.

679
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 8: Only the lodges. But they do some weird like not weird,

680
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:58,159
but I mean some really interesting activities that are kind

681
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,360
of based behind the order self, right, But that almost

682
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
sounds like something that they would do because that's their

683
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,880
their numbers. To thirty three is Freemason number.

684
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: There's a is it really that's the highest level three degrees?

685
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,519
Speaker 1: Thirty three degrees is what it is.

686
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,079
Speaker 6: But there is the thirty three the one that's not

687
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,280
like there are very few thirty third degree nations, I believe,

688
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400
like ex presidents and things. That's like being the Yeah,

689
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,280
there's very you have to be the uh the big

690
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440
Uba Guba Grand puba stuff.

691
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: There's a chapel in Scotland. It's in Rosland, Scotland, and

692
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,239
not only where it's located is more UFO is a

693
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,599
scene in this part of Scotland than any other place

694
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:48,480
in the world. Okay, it's called the fal Kirk Triangle

695
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,480
and the Roslind Chapel is right in the middle of it.

696
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:56,760
And it was built in let me see, maybe twelve

697
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,840
hundred at least two hundred years before or Columbus quote

698
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,960
unquote discovered America. In the columns. Okay, there are helixes

699
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,679
we were talking about a helix earlier. There are helixes

700
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,679
like that looked like DNA helixes, and there's this is

701
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,880
all carved in stone and the pillars, and there's obviously

702
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:23,639
what is corn, okay, like corn on corn stocks okay,

703
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,079
But no one knew anything about corn until they came

704
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,280
to the New World and brought it back to the

705
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,119
Old world. So they say, well, how do these not

706
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,039
only how do they know about DNA helixes, but how

707
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,719
do they know about corn? And why would they why

708
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,079
would they do it? Why would they take all the

709
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:44,239
time to com this into the stone? And they found

710
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,280
and it turns out that's the same place at the

711
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,639
end of the Da Vinci code, your friend's book that

712
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,280
they find the secret in. And they also found two

713
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,199
knights template buried on this place. But it's two hundred

714
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
years later now after the Knight's time were you know,

715
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:04,639
all kind of murdered and then sent into exil. So

716
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,719
the question is, I don't know about here. It looks

717
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,800
sounds like the same thing here, and how doing about

718
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,840
corn and all these codes and stuff like that. So

719
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,920
you're right, the Freemason's supposedly the descendants of the Knight's templa.

720
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,440
And it's this tradition that keeps on going that they

721
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,599
show up and do this kind of extraordinary you know.

722
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,519
Speaker 3: Where do they learn this stuff?

723
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: Professional things? Where do they learn?

724
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? What racist people passed down? Passed down from someone?

725
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

726
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,559
Speaker 14: The carpenters that turned everything down were the ones that

727
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,840
said only someone skilled in sacred geometry would be able

728
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,239
to build this staircase. So it could have been because

729
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,599
those people in those orders are, you know, supposedly skilled

730
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:54,679
in sacred geometry.

731
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,159
Speaker 4: So okay, go ahead, okay.

732
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,119
Speaker 14: So as far as the wood that was used, that

733
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,119
was like no other. In nineteen ninety six, a sample

734
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,079
of the wood from the staircase was analyzed by retired

735
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:12,800
forester and wood technologists from the US Forestry Service who

736
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:17,199
studied the sample for over fifteen months and determined that

737
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,199
the wood used was a type of spruce, but was

738
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,280
not indigenous to New Mexico, and he could not match

739
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,719
the sample to any other spruce known, and even suggested

740
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,679
that it be its own species, which he referred to

741
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,760
as the Loretto spruce. It has a close relative of

742
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:41,599
a species of spruce that's native to Alaska, which is

743
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:46,280
thirty five hundred miles away from Santa Fe. But it

744
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:53,159
doesn't exactly match that spruce in Alaska. And so this

745
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,400
interview with this master carpenter named James Baldwin, who was

746
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,159
an expert in wood turning and staircase design and construction.

747
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,519
Speaker 13: His assertion is.

748
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 14: That this that a staircase made like this would be possible.

749
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,840
And he noted that the tabernacle in Salt Lake City

750
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,800
was completed in eighteen seventy and was supported on the

751
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,159
inside with trusses and no nails, and the trusses were

752
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,360
lashed into place with what raw hide and wooden pegs

753
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,760
were used, and that that ceiling did not need any

754
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,239
renovation for one hundred and fifty years. So wow, he

755
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,639
was saying it's possible to do this kind of work.

756
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
He didn't say how it was possible for one man

757
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:45,239
to do this, but anyway, he said that the inside

758
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:51,519
spiral of this staircase acts as the center pole, and

759
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:55,400
so it takes away the need for a center pole

760
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,440
because it the physics of it allows for the absence

761
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,760
of the suninter pole, and the the construction of the

762
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,440
steps throws all the load to the outside stringer or

763
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,960
the outside line that connects the steps. And so when

764
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,559
you have a spiral staircase, all the steps are like

765
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:14,800
a pot piece of pie.

766
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 13: They're like all wedge shaped.

767
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,519
Speaker 14: And so he said, nobody's going to walk on the

768
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:23,719
inside of that little bitty bitty's space. They're going to

769
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,599
walk on the outside. So because all the load is

770
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:30,239
carried on the outside, you don't need the center pole

771
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,159
on the inside.

772
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,559
Speaker 13: To bear the weight.

773
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,519
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you have to? I t to moments, I mean,

774
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,360
take a couple of courses.

775
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 6: Anyway, I've assembled a couple of spiral staircases, modern ones

776
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,960
that are made out of metal with wooden steps, and

777
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:49,440
just building those is a.

778
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: Is a project. You know, Yeah, that's crazy. Go ahead,

779
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,239
go ahead, Okay.

780
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 14: So, as far as the kind of wood used this,

781
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,039
James Baldwin said that the wood used is very similar

782
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,400
to Sitka spruce, which is the spruce that they found

783
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,920
in Alaska that was its close relative. But that the

784
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Sitka spruce grows from northern California up into Alaska. But

785
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:21,679
it's also the most common ship building material of the

786
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,320
nineteenth century, which Uncle Al was talking about, and this

787
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,360
kind of spruce was shipped all over the world to

788
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,280
use in building ships. So it's possible that there could

789
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,639
have been some of it in New Mexico because the

790
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,199
Santa Fe Trail, you know, carried goods back and forth,

791
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:44,639
so it's possible that they could have acquired some. But again,

792
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,159
if the lumber yards had no record of it, I

793
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:47,519
don't know.

794
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: This.

795
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,599
Speaker 14: James Baldwin also said that this kind of spruce is

796
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,320
a relative to the Norway spruce, which was a very

797
00:45:56,559 --> 00:46:01,440
popular spruce used in France. And all of the builders

798
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:05,079
were French in the architects and a lot of the

799
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,480
other parts of the chapel came from France, so maybe

800
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,719
the wood came from France too, and that's why it

801
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,559
wasn't from the lumber yards there. There just isn't record

802
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:17,760
of it.

803
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, Norway connections interesting because that's where you have a

804
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,880
nail lists churches built.

805
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: Yes really, yeah.

806
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:29,119
Speaker 8: Too, And the Sitka spruce is also used to build

807
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,960
a mosquito that's being built.

808
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: The fight the plywood airplane.

809
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, interesting, Well for those of you who are

810
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:47,679
interested in this. James Baldwin referenced this elite nineteenth century

811
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,039
book called The Scientific Stair Builder by Robert Riddell, which

812
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,840
describes how to build all kinds of stairs, including these

813
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,880
double helix seven hundred and twenty degrees by real staircases

814
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,719
that a lot of the elite people wanted in their

815
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:07,360
you know, lavish homes of the day.

816
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 13: So there it's like a.

817
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:15,199
Speaker 14: Technique that was used but then it was lost, you know,

818
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,559
for I don't know how many years people you know,

819
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,880
till today that we haven't used it because people haven't

820
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,880
used these kind of staircases in their homes.

821
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:28,599
Speaker 3: Right, what is that? What what gives it? The the

822
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,079
kind of.

823
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: That idea that you're walking on something the soft or

824
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:35,760
you said, it's kind of like almost like walking on.

825
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,559
Speaker 14: Air because the actual it is actually the load bearing

826
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:46,280
ends of the staircase are the top step and the

827
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,480
bottom step, and so there's nothing underneath the other stairs.

828
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:55,320
And it was built specifically to give because it was wooden,

829
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,440
that it was built to give so it wouldn't break

830
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:02,920
or crack. And so when you're walking on it, it

831
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:06,880
does have like a you feel like a buoyancy to it,

832
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,280
like you're almost like it's vibrating or you're moving about no.

833
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 6: Center pole, and like you say, you know the inner

834
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,239
part of it really isn't load bearing. But I'm sure

835
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,920
when you step on the step that must give more

836
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,119
than the outer so you can see that making it

837
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,800
it would have to Yeah, it'd have to be a

838
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,039
little flexi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet twenty two feet.

839
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,480
I mean that's not that's a pretty uh a figure

840
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,239
that if they use a single piece of wood to

841
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,920
run that outer stringer by itself, it would how many

842
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,400
you know, twenty two feet? The second isn't it it

843
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280
would be thirty five feet because you're you're spending, spending,

844
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,800
you're losing a lot of would that be just mysteriously appearing.

845
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,079
I can't even imagine the wagons in the day you

846
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,119
would need to haul up there.

847
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,599
Speaker 4: So now, did anyone you know, really look into who

848
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:07,000
this guy was or did he just come and build

849
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:08,199
it and then he disappeared?

850
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 14: Yes, there was a woman and I didn't get her name.

851
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:19,360
But on this cupa Joe podcast James Baldwin interview, he

852
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,400
references this woman's book who.

853
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 13: Wrote about.

854
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 14: A particular French builder who was all throughout the Southwest

855
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:38,119
during the late eighteenth or nineteenth century, and it's her

856
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,920
theory that he's the guy that did it and why

857
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:46,280
they don't have a record of it. He didn't elaborate

858
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,920
in this interview, but maybe she mentions that in her book.

859
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,480
And I'm sorry I didn't get the name of her

860
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,280
or her book, but she thinks it's this particular well

861
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,119
known French builder that.

862
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: Was just there's the area, it's just there and built

863
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,079
this incredible.

864
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 6: Had you had to be I mean, that's such a

865
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,960
specific job. Yeah, that is such a Nietzsche and the planet,

866
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:18,039
the planet, you know, I there were carpenters and then

867
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:22,079
there were woodworkers, right, Yeah, a carpenter can build things,

868
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,679
but it takes a skill to build something like that.

869
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:30,360
That is Those are the type of guys that God

870
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,599
your double well, you use them for that and then

871
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,880
they go away and they're not going to be bothered

872
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,840
there or nailing or put a wall up for you.

873
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're such a you know, a spiral

874
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:44,760
guy isn't going to just be walking by.

875
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:48,679
Speaker 6: Even to this day, you look up people that can

876
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:52,760
stair builders, or you go into my house and you

877
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,079
look at the stairs in my house.

878
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,159
Speaker 3: They're hideous.

879
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:57,639
Speaker 6: And that's the one thing that my wife says all

880
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,920
the time, I hate those stairs and I look at

881
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:01,079
I'm not a stair builder.

882
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: You need this guy to me there, he's probably he's

883
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,920
probably a union carpenter, so you don't worry about that.

884
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,159
It's a permit. Well, Brandy, that's crazy story, man, that's

885
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,320
a that's I'm glad I heard that.

886
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: I've never heard it before. But it's just another example

887
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,039
that weird stuff happens.

888
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 14: Yes, and this is it's weird. There's like some kind

889
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,039
of vortex in Santa Fe. It's part of this triangle

890
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:34,519
with Taos and Sedona and Santa Fe, and so there's

891
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:40,440
like some kind of energy shift or like magnetic pull

892
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:45,119
or something that people have like I guess identified in

893
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,760
the area.

894
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 18: And so.

895
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,599
Speaker 14: The fact that this staircase is a double helix, a

896
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:55,360
lot of spiritualists think that it's actually like amplifying that

897
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,440
vortex energy like the staircase itself, and that that's why,

898
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,559
like people see the staircase glowing sometimes when there's a

899
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:08,719
lot of prayer in the chapel, they see shadow people

900
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,920
near the staircase, and they hear things in the chapel

901
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:17,000
and in the convent grounds and things, and they think

902
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,960
it's because the shape of it, the double helix shape

903
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,199
of it is actually amplifying all that vortex energy in

904
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,639
the area.

905
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: There's the taws Helm. There's a hum of people in

906
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:30,800
Tows and actually here I like ten percent of the

907
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,440
people here and all the time, and they can't get

908
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,599
rid of it. I mean, there's one guy who actually

909
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,079
put himself in a box and a coffin and had

910
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:43,280
himself buried six feet on the ground and he could

911
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,119
still hear the hum. And they can also hear it

912
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,199
in a place called Bristol, England. There's like two or

913
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,679
three places around the world that people have this this

914
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,599
home and they can't find it. They can't find the

915
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,280
source of it. Not everyone hears it, but if you

916
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,559
hear it, you hear it all the time.

917
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: Is the one in Bristol the same exact frequency as

918
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,239
the one that I don't know?

919
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,039
Speaker 13: People think that Bristol near the Rustling Chapel.

920
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bristol is in northern England, I guess, so, so

921
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,119
what people thought the Bristol one was it was because

922
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,119
there's a lot of electric wise, it's a very kind

923
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,199
of post war in the city, and there's the wind

924
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,400
going through the wires, you know. But but in Taos, Uh,

925
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:28,599
there's not the many ways apparently, so yeah, the tiles hump.

926
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,880
So well, Brandy, can we clap for you now?

927
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

928
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. That was interesting.

929
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of miraculous things that happened,

930
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,760
like Max said, but not many of them leave a

931
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,119
twenty two foot Yeah yeah, you know proof they exist

932
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:48,360
right out there in the open. I mean, people see

933
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,440
the thing.

934
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

935
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,519
Speaker 14: The biggest miracle is where did this guy come from? Really,

936
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,119
somebody came along and actually built this thing.

937
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 4: He left, he left the proof. Yeah, yeah, oh that's crazy.

938
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,960
Thank you, Brandy. We appreciate it.

939
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 6: Thank you.

940
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:05,559
Speaker 4: We're going to give you hots now, Okay, I make

941
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:08,559
that one one that's a hot not a circle shop it.

942
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Uh so, why don't we do uh, why don't we

943
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,480
take a break? Uh and uh we'll be right back.

944
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,840
Thank you, Brandy. And what you're listening to? Wow, Back

945
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948
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,920
famous Bristol Recording Studios in Boston. Hey Chris, hey Mac, Now,

949
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,639
Bristol's got this program that's always fascinating to me. Now,

950
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,719
let me see if I got this right. You can

951
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,280
take something as simple as someone singing into their phone

952
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,119
and turned it into a fully produced song.

953
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Is that right?

954
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's pretty much it.

955
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 18: You send us your demo, could be a ben, could

956
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,639
be you and a guitar.

957
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,559
Speaker 1: We'll build it up.

958
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 18: We'll work on the vocals at instant it's maybe bring

959
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,119
in some session players, whatever it takes to make it

960
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:06,760
sound finished, professional, like something you'd actually hear on Spotify.

961
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

962
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: And the cool thing is you don't even have to

963
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:10,800
go to Boston to do it right.

964
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,559
Speaker 1: Nope, it's all virtual.

965
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: Now.

966
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 18: We trade files, jump on Zoom and build it together

967
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:18,400
lay by layer, kind of like baking, and just keep

968
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,920
adding the good stuff until it's right.

969
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: Well that's nice, but what about the cost.

970
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: It really depends on.

971
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 18: The project, But we talk everything through before we start.

972
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,519
It's meant to be accessible no matter what kind of

973
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,280
music you're doing, rock, pop, even musicals.

974
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you've done musicals.

975
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,039
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've done musicals.

976
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:37,639
Speaker 3: Really okay, Well, I love it.

977
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,199
Speaker 4: So if someone's got a demo and wants to take

978
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,599
it to the next level, what should they do?

979
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 18: Just head to Bristol Studios dot com and look for

980
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,400
a recording. We'd love to hear what you're working on.

981
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:19,079
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll fulcome back if you went to Mac Maloney's

982
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,800
Military Saw show. Here in the distant Thunder Radio Network.

983
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:28,679
This is Mac Maloney. We're broadcasting live. Will stop a

984
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,119
Galley Restaurant, fifty five Wata Street, New report in Massachusetts.

985
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,320
Great seafood restaurant, Great Hamburgers, great steak and cheese, Sammi

986
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,159
and anything they do with onions is to dine for

987
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:49,239
like the French onion soup punches. Okay, look at the cat.

988
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: The cat's waiting to be introduced.

989
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: This is.

990
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,119
Speaker 4: Okay, we're in the middle of the show here, let

991
00:56:56,199 --> 00:57:00,679
me let me wow, let me quick. We introduced the

992
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,880
members of the Polase Girls. You see the very famous

993
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,159
wan Hello.

994
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 3: Girls, Hello guys too. You know I'm not trying to

995
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:11,679
discriminate in any way. Welcome to the show. And because

996
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:15,320
the first the first half was really mysterious. Really yes, okay,

997
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,039
yeah it is. I went to some homework on it.

998
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,079
When I get home. It's like it's going to be.

999
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: A test later also with us uh here at the

1000
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,480
stab of Galley is our engineer, producer, et cetera, Alenando.

1001
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,119
Speaker 6: Hello Mac, Hello everybody. I'm still trying to figure out

1002
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:34,400
how that guy built that staircase.

1003
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 18: That.

1004
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really nutty after I introduced it, when you

1005
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,039
have to tell the the cat adventure down at the

1006
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:50,679
ripicle at the other night, the cat adventure like he

1007
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,039
doesn't believe. Oh yeah yeah that or that. Also with

1008
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:58,280
us is security chief Willie Club w C.

1009
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: Mac.

1010
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: Great to be here, Shamrock and place.

1011
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 7: Everyone. I'm gonna I'm thinking, No, I think I'm gonna

1012
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,440
go build myself a nice stair staircase.

1013
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 6: Yes, good name for a band. I think that I

1014
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,400
cheaped out club. I went and bought one off Facebook

1015
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,119
marketplace and I had to remove it and that was

1016
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:23,719
a bear. You try to take it out?

1017
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,039
Speaker 14: Uh.

1018
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: Also with us is a good friend. Uh Susan Kay

1019
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:33,519
down there in North Carolina. Hopefully that's a dog in

1020
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:34,760
front of you, isn't.

1021
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:36,079
Speaker 12: It's your best friend.

1022
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:36,639
Speaker 3: I'll get that.

1023
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: Oh he has a hypnotic stare. That's the problem. I

1024
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,480
dream about this cat. Can you yeah, okay, can you

1025
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,280
let you do anything? Anything you do?

1026
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: He's cool with it.

1027
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,559
Speaker 12: Your voice that does it?

1028
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:58,519
Speaker 4: Max voice can't he go eat, sleep or you know

1029
00:58:58,679 --> 00:58:59,440
what else can he do?

1030
00:58:59,599 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Really?

1031
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,079
Speaker 4: But thank you for being with us, Susan, thank you

1032
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:04,079
for having me.

1033
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 12: It's nice to see you all.

1034
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 4: Also up there. And now his content is Brandy, nice, Brandy,

1035
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:10,800
how are you hi?

1036
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 13: Everybody?

1037
00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:14,039
Speaker 14: I'm so great and so happy to be here.

1038
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 4: I almost said Sarah Palin again, but oh, there is

1039
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:17,719
the hot wandering there.

1040
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: It is.

1041
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: It is a Sarah Palin. Can we bring up a

1042
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:24,599
graphic of Sarah Palin? And you really want to do that?

1043
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,760
I'm not going to hold one on my phone either.

1044
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 6: I think you're remembering Sarah Palin from the time when

1045
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,039
she was in the Spotlight, Yeah, which was a number

1046
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,360
of years ago. To give you a short I'm current,

1047
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:43,320
we're all, we're all thinking back to what he's saying. Now,

1048
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,079
she's an old bag.

1049
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm saying.

1050
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 6: I'm saying that Brandy's a younger, a lot younger than

1051
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,599
Sarah Palin. And she looks like Sarah Palin did a

1052
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,639
number of years. And that's what I'm trying to say.

1053
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:55,039
Is Susan put that up?

1054
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: Is that is that her?

1055
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: Really?

1056
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1057
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:01,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's Brandy fifty years Yeah, she does.

1058
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,679
Speaker 13: You know, I think that's a compliment. She's pretty.

1059
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're better looking than her. Actually, oh, Kim,

1060
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,159
that's what I was trying to get you, without being

1061
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,800
obviously I think. I thank you.

1062
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,159
Speaker 1: Kim.

1063
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: Also with us is a good right up there they

1064
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,639
were in Edmonton, Canada. Kim shake, Kim. Okay, I'm good.

1065
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 8: I'm great. Freaking a little Valentines with a little soda

1066
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,480
and I'm feeling just fine here.

1067
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:33,559
Speaker 4: I looked at him a little while agoing and looked

1068
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:34,960
a little bit like Jeffrey yesterday.

1069
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:39,599
Speaker 3: I can't go there. Thank you.

1070
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 8: That's a good looking guy, though, I mean, that's probably okay.

1071
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: We don't have to.

1072
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 6: We don't want to edit the show. If he was

1073
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,559
in the Witness Protection program, you'd be in trouble. See

1074
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:53,000
what happened.

1075
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 8: I'm just glad you know that I never ran into him. Man, no, man,

1076
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,440
any of those guys. Honestly, I almost got dragged in

1077
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,800
New York back in the eighties to do some modeling,

1078
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,760
and I just was like, no, I'm not going there.

1079
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,719
I'm not doing that.

1080
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: Hold on time he went.

1081
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,079
Speaker 8: Yes to the guy that I was going with, Bruce Greenwood.

1082
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,639
Speaker 4: What kind of modeling? Can please tell us.

1083
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 8: For like Ford or whatever. Back in the day, I

1084
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,199
used to do some modeling on the side, just for

1085
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:22,480
just for fun. I like clothes.

1086
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: He was a male model. You were a male model.

1087
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: Is that what you said?

1088
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1089
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 8: For a little while. Really, wow, I was hoping to

1090
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:35,119
be an actor. I wanted to go to New York

1091
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:36,880
and try out for one of the you know, one

1092
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,760
of the soap operas.

1093
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:43,039
Speaker 4: But oh yeah, well shoot, so your male model.

1094
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,079
Speaker 1: Speak me to it.

1095
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:46,239
Speaker 8: Bruce beat me to it. I think he was like

1096
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,199
born in Jasper in our province here. But anyway, no, digress,

1097
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,119
I did digress.

1098
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: I just so, so your male model in New York

1099
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:57,639
in the eighties, well, they.

1100
01:01:57,559 --> 01:01:59,199
Speaker 8: Were trying to drag me there, but I didn't. I

1101
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:00,760
didn't want to do it. I was kind of a

1102
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,719
I don't know, I kind of a hometown guy, and

1103
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,519
I didn't really.

1104
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,719
Speaker 3: Want to go to New York and get a coke problem.

1105
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 8: Okay, I get bent over, I guess I was.

1106
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:12,719
Speaker 4: Wow, that's probably something else in Canadian we don't know.

1107
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,119
Speaker 8: I didn't want to get bent over, so I was

1108
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:19,840
like getting there.

1109
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,559
Speaker 3: I don't know. How do you know if somebody likes

1110
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,280
Bruce Head, you look up that term now.

1111
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: But listen, now we know why he looks so much

1112
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,719
like an act of everything, you know, because he's actually model.

1113
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.

1114
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:34,599
Speaker 6: Look for him to come on full time, yeah, to

1115
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,159
figure to get this, get the point across.

1116
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: Listen.

1117
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 4: I want to introduce I guess, but I want to

1118
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:43,119
do the cat story too, because so first let's juice

1119
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:47,079
I guess. Tonight, Don Campbell, we're gonna clap you down, God,

1120
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,039
glad to see, thanks for joining us, Thank you. Okay,

1121
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:53,079
now where are you done when you were located.

1122
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,079
Speaker 1: In God's waiting room Florida?

1123
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:00,559
Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, wow, you're right. Well, at least you

1124
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,800
have a sense of humor. But uh so yeah, yeah,

1125
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:06,840
it just tells quickly the name of your book. You

1126
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:07,599
have a book out.

1127
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:13,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name of the book is Lucifer's Flat Earth,

1128
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,920
and it's actually written by Dylan Campbell. Dylan is my

1129
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:22,840
pen name. Okay, So it's Lucifer's Lucifer's Flat Earth, Okay,

1130
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Dylan Campbell at Amazon.

1131
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,239
Speaker 4: Okay, So if you can sit on that for a second,

1132
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,280
so I don't forget this. I just got to pivot

1133
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,639
to this what happened the other night because we're not

1134
01:03:31,679 --> 01:03:33,880
gonna like it, but yeah, but I feel I have

1135
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,199
to repeat it, Okay, so and don just stay with us, please.

1136
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,599
So we go down to this is a week ago throughsday.

1137
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,079
We go down to the riptide, the rip cord, the

1138
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:48,440
old beach coma down the beach, right. Everyone knows, we

1139
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:49,440
talk about it all the time.

1140
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

1141
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: It's known for having a tract of waitresses and bathen

1142
01:03:58,119 --> 01:03:59,440
is what you say, And that's true.

1143
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, by design, I think by design?

1144
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:06,679
Speaker 4: And and and there was it was does does a

1145
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:08,760
woman in there who works in there now? And her

1146
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,280
name is Asia a j A named after the Steely

1147
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:18,360
Dance song, and she's very attractive and so uh else.

1148
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: First off, we didn't we didn't know who she was

1149
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:25,360
named after. No, right, I think I asked her, well,

1150
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,239
I don't know Asia, Asia like the Steely Dance song, right,

1151
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,079
because I was thinking Asia like the country of the band.

1152
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 4: Not as a j A, right, And I was hoping

1153
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:37,440
for that. So anyway, six months ago, by it and

1154
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,320
now I work up enough covers to talk to her again, okay,

1155
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,519
and her and Lois are good friends, and every time

1156
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:44,880
we go in there, it's it's you know them, not me.

1157
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,039
So I finally say to her, do you like the

1158
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:51,119
song Asia? This is after you know, a bunch of

1159
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:56,519
jack and stuff? And she says, no, it's my It's

1160
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:59,400
my parents' favorite song, and that's why I'm named after

1161
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:02,320
and and she says, you know, I heard it a

1162
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,199
lot as a kid. So she put she goes, of

1163
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,079
all steely dance songs, that's my favorite. It's probably the

1164
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:11,760
only wit And she's into bad Bunny and all this stuff. Okay,

1165
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:17,519
So I'm finally like, you know, I'm now communicating with

1166
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:21,719
this girl after a year and a half. And in

1167
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:27,960
the middle of it, if somehow Al's cats come up, okay, okay,

1168
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,519
and I and she's just standing there, and I go,

1169
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,960
I'll get on that microphone because we'll need you a testimony.

1170
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: Somehow do you I don't remember? How can I do?

1171
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,440
How you flat out asked you hate cats?

1172
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: Don't know?

1173
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always that's always the leading question.

1174
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 6: Well him and I were talking, You're talking about the cats,

1175
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,920
we were talking about other okay, whatever.

1176
01:05:50,119 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1177
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,119
Speaker 6: And then so then she's standing there. Now, let me

1178
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:54,880
give you a picture. Let me let me draw the

1179
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,360
picture of this woman. And I'm not trying to be gone.

1180
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:01,960
I'm not trying to be judgmental or anything. Okay, the

1181
01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:06,320
woman has like almost a buzz cut marine white you know, hair,

1182
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:13,159
buzz cut marine do cats up and down both arms?

1183
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,039
Speaker 3: Yes.

1184
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:18,159
Speaker 6: I look at her and I'm like, yeah, okay, sure

1185
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,039
you we can't go to in depth in this, but no, no,

1186
01:06:22,199 --> 01:06:25,039
I'm not gonna have a joke of orange here by

1187
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:25,639
the Wakay you know.

1188
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:29,639
Speaker 3: So, he in the middle of this asks her, you

1189
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,960
hate cats, don't you know? I don't say that.

1190
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 4: I didn't I say, Asia, you don't like cats? Do

1191
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,559
you hoping she's gonna go I hate cats? And and

1192
01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:40,760
now just a little bit not that you know, I'm believe.

1193
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: You know what?

1194
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Uh ask the queen if she hated cats?

1195
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,559
Speaker 1: Of course.

1196
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no, So of course she goes

1197
01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:55,840
At first, I think she goes, cats, I hate cats.

1198
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,280
But what she really says was cats, I've had eight cats.

1199
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Okay for the next hour and a half.

1200
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:04,079
Speaker 3: Almost sounds the same, but a different meeting.

1201
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,159
Speaker 4: An hour and a half cats in the middle of

1202
01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:11,880
which I actually went home and came back. It's Al

1203
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:16,280
and Asia and everyone else in the restaurant talking about cats.

1204
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,199
It was a literal cathouse she's bringing out the bus

1205
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,960
boys come out and look at Al's cat. Her brother, Yeah,

1206
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,400
her brother, And now's they're showing these casts. He's Norwegian.

1207
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:33,239
You know farm cats? Well now they forest cat far

1208
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,679
are they in the country legally?

1209
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,119
Speaker 3: They were born here? Yeah, I'll bet so anyway, So yeah,

1210
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:42,440
so so thank you well, And that's.

1211
01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:46,639
Speaker 6: How here's how the story really goes. Okay, we're at

1212
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:50,840
the bar having a couple of drinks and she's waiting on. Obviously,

1213
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,599
he goes in there with his wife. I've lived on

1214
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,280
that island for forty years. Go ahead, I've been in

1215
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,679
I could count on easily both hands how many times

1216
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:05,360
I've walked into that building because I have no part

1217
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,599
of tourist traps.

1218
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay, there that his prompting, let's just go get a

1219
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:12,840
quick beer with the you. Yeah.

1220
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I walk in there. He pops the you

1221
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:21,319
hate cats question to this woman, who then shows us

1222
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:27,960
a big armload of cats. Then he then he shuts

1223
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:30,920
down and her and I talked casts for like five minutes.

1224
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,880
Go ahead, and then afterwards he says to me, oh,

1225
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:36,079
how do you and your girlfriend hit it off?

1226
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:36,319
Speaker 10: There?

1227
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:38,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you talk.

1228
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 6: Man, I'm like what, I'm like, you go in there,

1229
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,560
you know, you and your wife talk to her. I

1230
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:49,600
don't know her from a hole in the ground. So

1231
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:51,680
and then he's like, well, you're gonna go back. I'm like,

1232
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,319
I'm not going. I don't want I don't think so.

1233
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,960
And I didn't want to say I think she hits

1234
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,319
for the wrong team, brother, But you know what's tryng

1235
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,359
with that? Well, that's good for her. But he says

1236
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,079
to me, your girlfriend, and I'm like, we got my girlfriend.

1237
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: We got everything. Yeah, okay, I'll talk to her a

1238
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:12,760
big time if you we got that out of the way.

1239
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:19,720
It's uh, the other field this is she's dead strict,

1240
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,079
dead straightaway center.

1241
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,039
Speaker 6: And he wonders why when he says, let's go get

1242
01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:25,920
a bier somewhere, I'm like, I'm not so sure I

1243
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:26,640
want to do this.

1244
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 4: Well anyway, okay, we got that out of the way.

1245
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,960
I would have told them last week, but we had

1246
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,520
a blizzard. So Don Campbell is still with us. He's

1247
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,880
still here. Good, okay, Don? All right, how are you

1248
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,520
doing so far?

1249
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:44,319
Speaker 11: Good?

1250
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:45,239
Speaker 3: How are you okay? Good?

1251
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 4: So you're down in Florida, right.

1252
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: You're originally from Massachusetts.

1253
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was born in Boston, raised in Connecticut.

1254
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: Connecticut, New England.

1255
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah counts. But guys in England, what kind of which?

1256
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,600
East coast, west coast and in the middle of what.

1257
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm in Melbourne, which is right in the middle between

1258
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:12,840
Jacksonville and Miami on the east coast.

1259
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, right on the water. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1260
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:18,439
I've been down there. I've been down at Delray Beach

1261
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,840
a lot, and you know that part of town, you know,

1262
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,479
kind of yeah, Boco, Raton and stuff. But anyway, all right, Florida,

1263
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,079
I don't know how long you lived there, how long

1264
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:28,560
you been there.

1265
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,119
Speaker 1: I've been living here off and on for about fifteen years.

1266
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:35,079
I spent a lot of time in Texas, in California.

1267
01:10:35,319 --> 01:10:37,680
I've lived all over the country. Okay, I've actually worked

1268
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,880
in radio for thirty years.

1269
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,039
Speaker 4: No really, yeah, well you get the voice. You definitely

1270
01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:44,880
get the voice for right when you said Grad's waiting

1271
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,800
room is true because I went down there once with

1272
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,039
Lois's father. You know, we were visiting and I had

1273
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:53,520
to bring him to his doctor's appointment. We go in,

1274
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,119
He's eighty four at the time, and he gives his

1275
01:10:57,279 --> 01:10:58,720
seat to someone who is elderly.

1276
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:06,119
Speaker 3: Okay, I hope to do that myself, so so don

1277
01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:07,840
once again. The name of your book is.

1278
01:11:09,119 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name of the book is Lucifer's Flat Earth.

1279
01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: Okay.

1280
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 4: Lucifer's Flat Earth. Okay. And now you're going to can

1281
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,720
you convince us of the earth as flat as that

1282
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,640
we we're we're up against.

1283
01:11:23,079 --> 01:11:25,199
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to go at it backwards, if you

1284
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:28,479
don't mind. I'd like to talk about what you guys

1285
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,640
believe in and what I used to believe in, okay,

1286
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:34,880
and then compare it to what I believe now, which

1287
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,640
I think is a better way to approach it, because

1288
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,840
if you just come out and say I believe in

1289
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,600
flat Earth, people think you're a lunatic.

1290
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: All right, I'll start. I believe in a round Earth. Okay,

1291
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,720
all right, how let's take a survey, take a vote.

1292
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 3: Anyone around the Earth is spherical in some way? Yeah?

1293
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: Okay. Everyone is raising their hands except Kim. Okay, so

1294
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,479
everybody's around Kim is uh.

1295
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:01,039
Speaker 3: What do you think it is?

1296
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:02,399
Speaker 8: I'm reading his book.

1297
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: Available at Amazon, and yet no, I'm let me tell you.

1298
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1299
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: Why don't I start there? Okay? The reason I call

1300
01:12:18,079 --> 01:12:22,239
the book Lucifer's Flat Earth. If I wrote it, no

1301
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:24,199
one's going to read it because no one knows who

1302
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:26,199
I am. So I had to think, who has the

1303
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:29,680
greatest street cred in the world and is the best

1304
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,760
liar in the world besides all the politicians. And it

1305
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:41,079
has to be. So it comes down to three people, myself, God,

1306
01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:45,960
and Lucifer. All of us believe the Earth is flat.

1307
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,560
One of us created it, another is trying to hide it,

1308
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:55,199
and the third, myself, believes it. And the reason I

1309
01:12:55,359 --> 01:12:58,520
believe it is because of what I've seen, not about

1310
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,079
the flat Earth, but what I've been told about the

1311
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:05,079
round Earth. Are you ready to take a journey? All right?

1312
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:08,479
Here we go. Now, four out of five of you

1313
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,319
believe the Earth is round, and one of you is

1314
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,439
kind of iffy, And I get that. People. My daughter said,

1315
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,600
if she ever believed in the flat Earth, she'd have

1316
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,239
to stay in the closet. Oh, it's gonna be ridiculedre

1317
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:25,479
din't you guys believe? Go ahead, okay, if you believe

1318
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,079
in the round Earth theory, you believe that Right now,

1319
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,800
we're spinning at one thousand miles per hour. Simultaneously, we're

1320
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,039
traveling around the Sun. At sixty six thousand miles per

1321
01:13:37,119 --> 01:13:45,199
hour or eighteen miles per second, and that little galaxy

1322
01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:49,319
of ours is actually moving at five hundred and eighty

1323
01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:53,479
six thousand miles per hour through the Milky Way, and

1324
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,720
the entire universe is expanding at millions of miles per

1325
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,239
hour simultaneously. So just for a moment, just picture that

1326
01:14:02,319 --> 01:14:04,560
in your mind, you're spinning out a thousand miles an

1327
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,680
hour at the same time you're traveling at sixty six

1328
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,399
thousand miles an hour. At the same time you're going

1329
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,640
straight up at about four hundred and eighty six thousand

1330
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,880
miles per hour, and the entire universe is expanding at

1331
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:22,479
millions of miles per hour, all simultaneously. Right now, there's

1332
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,840
a thing called Polaris, which is the North Star. And

1333
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,359
I'm sure you've seen the time lapse photography where all

1334
01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:32,640
the stars revolve around the North Star, right, Yes, Okay,

1335
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,920
every night they follow the same pattern. Every single star

1336
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:42,720
and planet revolves around the north pole, the North star,

1337
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,880
which is Polaris. If all of those stars and planets

1338
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,159
are taking the same pattern every night for thousands of

1339
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:57,159
years without variation, it is impossible. If you're going sixty

1340
01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:59,960
six thousand miles an hour around the Sun, spinning out

1341
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:03,439
one thousand miles an hour and going through this little

1342
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,359
galaxy at four hundred and eighty three thousand miles per hour.

1343
01:15:07,039 --> 01:15:10,319
That's just one thing. Let's not even talk about flatter

1344
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,279
So yes, talk about the No.

1345
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 4: So you're saying, though, is that we're we're thought, we're

1346
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,399
going in so fast in all these different directions, it's

1347
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,520
impossible for Polaris to be in the same position forever.

1348
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,279
Speaker 3: Is that what you mean? Yes, in the geosynchrono sord.

1349
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:31,199
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's it's it's kind of right. But everything

1350
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:31,720
goes around.

1351
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: Let's not even talk about let's not even talk about

1352
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,279
flat Earth. Come at it from a round earth perspective.

1353
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Go ahead and tell me how is it that all

1354
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,199
of the stars and all of the planets rotate in

1355
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:47,479
the same pattern every night around the North Star?

1356
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:54,239
Speaker 4: Well, because because because you know, we're moving. We're moving,

1357
01:15:55,079 --> 01:15:58,119
you know what I mean, We're moving, but are all

1358
01:15:58,159 --> 01:15:58,680
the stars?

1359
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 9: But everything else is so anyway, go on to the moon.

1360
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,159
The moon is can I just ask question? Go ahead,

1361
01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:12,279
We didn't catch your bio. Do you have a scientific background?

1362
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,399
What is your background education wise with respect.

1363
01:16:17,119 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: He's a radio guy. He doesn't.

1364
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm a radio guy.

1365
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 7: How did you get this knowledge that scientists and physicists

1366
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:30,199
and all those have that's opposite beauty? Eys, I'm just

1367
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:31,560
a little confused.

1368
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I did. I sat down and I

1369
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,399
got the Bible. I got another book called The Secret

1370
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,479
Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall. It's known

1371
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,600
as the Satanic Bible.

1372
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,319
Speaker 3: Okay.

1373
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: I also got the Book of Enoch, the Secret Teachings

1374
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,520
of the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, the

1375
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,399
Book of Josephus. I started to read all these books,

1376
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,640
and what I found out is that the occult and

1377
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:04,399
God agree about the cosmos, but NASA does not. Oh,

1378
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,159
by the way, congratulations to NASA. They're about to go

1379
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:09,600
around the moon. Oh wait, they're not going to do

1380
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,600
that again. It's only been fifty six years.

1381
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did postpone that again, which yeah, there was

1382
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,439
lack of interest. There's still they're supposed to an orbital uh,

1383
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,319
go an orbit around the moon, you know, orbital in

1384
01:17:21,399 --> 01:17:23,920
that land, like in February, like February.

1385
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,119
Speaker 1: What's happened is that bitch? Since Stanley uh, since Stanley

1386
01:17:28,199 --> 01:17:29,680
Cooper died. It's really hard to get.

1387
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, listen, did you want to get into

1388
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:34,079
that now? And you want to tell the moon? Because

1389
01:17:34,199 --> 01:17:34,439
I can.

1390
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: I can choot down tell the moon story first. We'll

1391
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,119
get it, doll.

1392
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead.

1393
01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: Basically, let's start with the moon. Now, most people believe

1394
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,239
and if you believe in the round earth, this is

1395
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:47,479
what you believe. I'm not putting thoughts in your mind.

1396
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,359
This is what you believe.

1397
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1398
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: You believe that the moon reflects the sunlight? Correct?

1399
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: No, the moon reflects earthlight.

1400
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 1: Okay, but where does the moon? Where does the moon

1401
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,399
get its light from? Is it reflecting it from the sun?

1402
01:18:05,399 --> 01:18:06,399
Speaker 3: Right? They? Yes?

1403
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes the Earth blocks blocks all that all depends on

1404
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,640
where the Moon's location is relative to the Earth.

1405
01:18:14,039 --> 01:18:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, explain this to me.

1406
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: How is the moon half lit? What is causing the

1407
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,399
moon to be half lit where there's a line going

1408
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,279
right down the middle. It can't be the spherical Earth

1409
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:31,520
because it's curved, you know, it's it's a circle. So

1410
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,600
what's causing only half of the moon to light up?

1411
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 4: Well, it's not you, it's you. Do I have any answer?

1412
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:43,760
Should we keep going? It's not it's not a perfectly

1413
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,600
defined half. I mean you look at it from Earth,

1414
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,039
it looks like it's half or a clater or whatever.

1415
01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:51,920
It looks curvast, but it's but but yeah, you see

1416
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,680
a curve like a smiley moon. A new moon is

1417
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,359
is definitely like a smiley face.

1418
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: That's a smiley face sideways.

1419
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that way drunk smile.

1420
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: What's causing the smiley moon? Where is that shadow coming

1421
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:07,600
from the Earth?

1422
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,039
Speaker 3: The Earth block in the sun.

1423
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: It can't be that. That would be an eclipse, right,

1424
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,319
but it's that's on an eclipse.

1425
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:20,159
Speaker 4: We're not talking about Okay, normal the normal phases of

1426
01:19:20,199 --> 01:19:22,920
the moon, right some reason I want to.

1427
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: Club, yes, club.

1428
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:30,239
Speaker 7: One of the questions, now, we see these images over

1429
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:34,840
the last sixty years from space, from the moon of

1430
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,039
the Earth, how do you explain those are the is

1431
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:40,000
that like fake news?

1432
01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 4: Should we go into that? Should we go into hot

1433
01:19:42,079 --> 01:19:44,640
how to they want to know? That's yeah, that's where

1434
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:45,479
we want to go done.

1435
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,119
Speaker 1: So any any any questions you guys have, just let

1436
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:50,720
me just let me just tell me.

1437
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,319
Speaker 7: How do you see how do you explain what we

1438
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,079
get from NASA and from all the trips from to the.

1439
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:03,520
Speaker 1: Moon and what NASA is NASA. And by the way,

1440
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,319
I only lived like about forty miles from Cape Canaveral. Okay,

1441
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,520
NASA is not a space agency. NASA is the largest

1442
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,399
film studio in the world.

1443
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 4: I hope they make better movies than Hollywood.

1444
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,159
Speaker 1: Let's let's survey the five of you, because I'm curious

1445
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:24,960
about this one more than how many of you believe

1446
01:20:25,319 --> 01:20:26,279
we went to the Moon?

1447
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: I do, all of us, all of us? Yeah, I do.

1448
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, okay, I believe.

1449
01:20:34,399 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what I was done on the

1450
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,439
sound stage. Can I tell you why?

1451
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,399
Speaker 4: Okay, let's say it's all right, so so to take

1452
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,640
your point of view, so NASA had to say somehow

1453
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,840
so so we they were shooting capsules into the you know,

1454
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,880
after Jeff Case, we was going to go to the Moon.

1455
01:20:53,279 --> 01:20:56,000
By the end of the decade, they're doing the Mercury program,

1456
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:59,479
the Gemini program. You know, they did everything, They orbited,

1457
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,399
they did this, they did that. They sent Apollos to

1458
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,359
the Moon just to go around the Moon and find

1459
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:11,399
the Apollo eleven lands, Apollo twelve lands, Apollo thirteen doesn't

1460
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,960
make it, but you go fourteen fifteen, and the last

1461
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,359
one was sixteen. So no ah, seventeen. Okay, so we

1462
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,159
landed there. So so what you would have to do

1463
01:21:22,039 --> 01:21:25,800
is create your the largest film studioever. You're right, but

1464
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:31,079
you would have to create it would take you more time, effort, people, money,

1465
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,239
years to create a film to fake it than to

1466
01:21:36,359 --> 01:21:37,479
actually go there.

1467
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

1468
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,319
Speaker 4: And and the number one thing you have to fake

1469
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,399
is like this giant satin rocket taking off in Florida

1470
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,319
with hundreds of thousands of with thousands of people watching

1471
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:53,520
it live and and millions of people watching it on TV.

1472
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,520
Speaker 3: How do you fake that?

1473
01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:58,199
Speaker 1: Well, it did take off, and it is a rocket,

1474
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,199
and every rocket that takes off curves, and the reason

1475
01:22:01,279 --> 01:22:04,319
of curves is because it'll hit the dome.

1476
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,239
Speaker 3: Hang on, Okay, all right, I want to hear the

1477
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:10,760
rest of Don's explanation about Let's go back.

1478
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:16,359
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty eight. Nineteen sixty eight, Stanley Cooprick makes

1479
01:22:16,399 --> 01:22:19,000
a movie called two thousand and one, a Space Odyssey.

1480
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,359
There are photographs of Cuprick with Arthur C. Clark, who

1481
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,960
is or was a prolific science fiction writer actually satellite

1482
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,439
and also with NASA.

1483
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead.

1484
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: The theory is, and I believe it is, that Stanley

1485
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:42,920
Koprick was recruited by NASA to film the moon landing.

1486
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:46,600
And if you think that's far fetched, there's a movie

1487
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:51,079
that came out a year ago Starling's starring Scarlett Johansson

1488
01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:53,600
called fly Me to the Moon, and it's all about

1489
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,359
how they came up with a fake moon landing. This

1490
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,720
is a mainstream movie. They came up with a fake

1491
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,840
moon landing in order to have a safeguard in case

1492
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,920
it failed, because really what all of this was about

1493
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:08,960
was beating Russia to the moon. If you go back

1494
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,520
to nineteen sixty two, jfk said we will go to

1495
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,279
the Moon and the space race had started. And then

1496
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:21,520
that movie, again a mainstream movie starring Scarlett Johansson, they

1497
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,520
came up with a backup plan to film the fake

1498
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,479
moon landing. Now go back to nineteen sixty nine. I

1499
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,800
was twelve. There were three channels, one of which was

1500
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,439
Walter Cronkite. No one is going to doubt Walter cronkinin.

1501
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,039
But if you take a survey today, most people that

1502
01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:44,199
were born after the advent of the Internet don't believe

1503
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:46,960
we landed on the moon because they now have many

1504
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:50,960
other resources that we didn't have back in the sixties.

1505
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,239
Speaker 4: But those half of the resources A bullshit, you know.

1506
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:02,279
I mean, let's say, correct think it's end to win

1507
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:07,199
the space The Russia Russias didn't have the same problem.

1508
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,279
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, let's go back even further.

1509
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:15,319
Nineteen fifty seven, nineteen fifty six, Russia launches Sputnik, the

1510
01:24:15,399 --> 01:24:19,840
first satellite, which freaked out the Eisenhower administration because Russia

1511
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,159
got the space before we did. And Kennedy, who came

1512
01:24:23,239 --> 01:24:26,359
after Eisenhower, vowed that we would land on the Moon

1513
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,359
by the end of the decade, the nineteen sixties, and

1514
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,680
that was known as the space race, right right. And

1515
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,359
the contention I have is that it never happened because,

1516
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,479
and here's the big game changer. The Moon is not

1517
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,920
what we think. It is actually made of what is

1518
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,800
known as cosmic jazma. It is a It is a

1519
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,720
translucent disc that you cannot land on. It's not that

1520
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,239
Man or NASA doesn't have the capability to get to

1521
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:59,079
the moon. What I'm saying is you can't land on

1522
01:24:59,159 --> 01:25:02,439
the moon because the moon is a light. If you

1523
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,000
go to the Book of Genesis, it says that God

1524
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:08,079
created two great lights, the sun for the day and

1525
01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:10,199
the moon for the night. The sun's the greater light

1526
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,520
and the moon's the lesser light. And the Book of

1527
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,800
Enoch and the Book of the Secret Teachings of Enoch

1528
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:17,520
back that up that the moon is in fact not

1529
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,119
a rock but a light. Now, getting back to how

1530
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:24,880
the light is projected, the Book of Enoch talks about

1531
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,119
how the light from the Sun is absorbed by the

1532
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:32,640
Moon and then projected to the Earth, so it's not reflected,

1533
01:25:33,119 --> 01:25:37,239
it's projected over a fourteen day period where it lights up,

1534
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,920
becomes a full moon, and then this engages itself and

1535
01:25:42,079 --> 01:25:45,159
becomes a new moon after fourteen But.

1536
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 4: All right, so let's just say this. Okay, so there's

1537
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,239
a thing right now. You can win the internet. Right now.

1538
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:57,000
There's a Japanese satellite that has been orbiting the Moon

1539
01:25:57,159 --> 01:25:59,560
for I'm going to say three or four years. It

1540
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,119
can you've read about this, right and you can go

1541
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:06,239
on the internet and you will see this live going

1542
01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:07,319
around the moon.

1543
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

1544
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:10,119
Speaker 4: Now, the weird thing about the moon, I will I

1545
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,000
will tell you this is the strange path of about

1546
01:26:12,039 --> 01:26:15,760
the moon is people think that the moon doesn't revolve,

1547
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,640
but it does. It's only that one face of the

1548
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,840
Moon faces the Earth. All the time, because the Earth

1549
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:28,199
and the Moon revolved in perfect sink and that means perfect.

1550
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:30,119
Speaker 1: They say it's in a they say it's in a

1551
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:35,640
geosynchronous orbit. Did you see that? Speaking of video, did

1552
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,840
you see that video the NASA release of them flying

1553
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:44,399
behind the Moon as it was passing over the Earth. No, No,

1554
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,439
you're a CGI, So so listen.

1555
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,199
Speaker 3: So are you saying?

1556
01:26:50,279 --> 01:26:50,399
Speaker 1: Then?

1557
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,399
Speaker 4: Then everyone, all these astronauts who went to the Moon,

1558
01:26:54,079 --> 01:26:58,560
and all these people who built the capsules, built the rocket.

1559
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,640
You know, the note's that built the satin rocket. Okay,

1560
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,560
all these people are in on it, in on it

1561
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,399
and not And thousands of them would not you know,

1562
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,039
out of the thousands, another one would come forward from

1563
01:27:12,039 --> 01:27:13,319
a million bucks and go on.

1564
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 3: Nobody Nobody talked about on Debed and said, I tell

1565
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,960
you up that you won't believe it.

1566
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: Well, Werner Brown, Werner Bron Bron did. He was the

1567
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,640
rocket scientist recruited during Operation paper Clip.

1568
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,399
Speaker 3: After World War Two.

1569
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,319
Speaker 4: He was a Nazi scientist that brought on his tombstone.

1570
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: On his tombstone is Psalm nineteen one, which talks about

1571
01:27:37,359 --> 01:27:39,720
of God. But anyway, let's get back.

1572
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 3: What's that have to do? We didn't go there.

1573
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: It talked about God's firmament. No, it has nothing to

1574
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,159
do with the moon. It talks about it.

1575
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is the forever?

1576
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,399
Speaker 1: Well let me let me let me do one thing,

1577
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,079
if you don't mind, I want to answer your NaSTA

1578
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:58,720
question and we'll do the firmament. Everything is compartmentalized. In

1579
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,640
other words, let's say you work at NASA. Can you

1580
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,720
believe the Earth is round?

1581
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 11: Do?

1582
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: I believe you do? And I believe in your heart

1583
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:06,800
you do.

1584
01:28:07,279 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: Yes.

1585
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,079
Speaker 1: But you go to NASA and you work on a computer,

1586
01:28:10,399 --> 01:28:12,520
and you work on the fuel system, or you work

1587
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,840
on the capsule, or you work on this, or you

1588
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,239
work on that. Right, the only liars are the twelve

1589
01:28:18,319 --> 01:28:22,159
astronauts who have allegedly gone to the moon. Ahead every

1590
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:26,239
astronaut knows, and those that reside on the top floor

1591
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:31,159
of the building. Everyone else doesn't. Because it's everything is compartmentalized.

1592
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: Ye, how about this.

1593
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,079
Speaker 1: By the time it filters down, you're just doing your job.

1594
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 4: How about this though? How about all the space shuttles

1595
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:41,399
that went up? You know, like dozens and dozens and

1596
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:45,279
hundreds of people are in space, have been in space,

1597
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,039
in space shell going back and forth, plus You've had

1598
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:51,680
a manned space station for at least twenty years with

1599
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,039
people in it all the time. They're going around the Earth.

1600
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,319
How do you explain that.

1601
01:28:59,079 --> 01:29:03,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it exists. I really don't. I'll go back.

1602
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,279
I'll go back to what I said before. NASA is

1603
01:29:06,359 --> 01:29:07,920
the largest film studio.

1604
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:10,199
Speaker 4: Why would they, like al said, why would they do it?

1605
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,800
What's what's the point if if the Earth is flat?

1606
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,520
Just everyone just get with it and it's flat?

1607
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: So what's for them? And who's on the table?

1608
01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:21,319
Speaker 1: The problem? There's a there's a couple of problems with that.

1609
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:27,000
Do you want the spiritual or the secular? I'll give you. Okay,

1610
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:33,199
If tomorrow they announced the Earth was flat, within a

1611
01:29:33,319 --> 01:29:37,439
half hour, the stock market would crash, okay that I

1612
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,479
would be rioting in the streets. People would be getting

1613
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:46,079
in boats and trying to find the edge. Everybody would

1614
01:29:46,079 --> 01:29:51,000
be going to South South Antarctica universities. People would be

1615
01:29:51,079 --> 01:29:53,800
jumping out the windows. People who built their careers on

1616
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,600
this NASA women would be leaving their husbands all up

1617
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,840
and down the South coast Florida. It lost their job.

1618
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,880
Was absolute anarchy, a worldwide depression, and World War three,

1619
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:08,760
probably within twenty four hours.

1620
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 6: Look, I'm trying to follow you on this. Now, we're

1621
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,279
on the side of the Earth if it's flat. We're

1622
01:30:20,359 --> 01:30:23,279
on the side where North and South America are. If

1623
01:30:23,319 --> 01:30:28,239
you look on at a globe, right, where is Europe, Russia,

1624
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,720
Asia there on the other side of the flat part.

1625
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:37,520
Speaker 1: But you're the Earth as an upside down frisbee right, Okay, okay, yep.

1626
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,680
And you know when you have Thanksgiving and you have

1627
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,039
that dome that goes over the plate to keep the

1628
01:30:44,079 --> 01:30:44,760
turkey heated.

1629
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,319
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the furnament.

1630
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,079
Speaker 1: That's the dome. So you have a dome that is

1631
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:54,800
above and you have a disc below and beyond the

1632
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,920
disc where it meets the dome. We don't know how

1633
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,880
far it goes. But here's what we do know. We

1634
01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:04,000
can't doubt because it's illegal.

1635
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: So how big if the Earth is flat?

1636
01:31:10,319 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 6: How big is it that we get all the continents

1637
01:31:14,119 --> 01:31:16,399
on one side on one flat side?

1638
01:31:17,119 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: It is that big. They've had people go down to Antarctica.

1639
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,319
It's supposed to be eleven thousand miles to the continent

1640
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:29,119
of Antarctica. Yes, they've had explorers traverse the Antarctica ice wall,

1641
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,359
and it's sixty thousand miles.

1642
01:31:32,079 --> 01:31:35,159
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So the bottom line is.

1643
01:31:35,279 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 1: The Earth is a hell of a lot bigger than

1644
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:38,439
we've been told.

1645
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 6: So it's only on one it's a flat earth. But

1646
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,560
everything's on one side, like one pizza. Like a pizza,

1647
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,359
all the toppings are on one side and the bottom.

1648
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 3: What's the excellent description.

1649
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: We're all the we're all the pieces meet on the pizza.

1650
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:56,319
Speaker 3: Go ahead, that's the north.

1651
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,119
Speaker 4: Okay, But what's on what's underneath the rust, what's underneath

1652
01:32:01,159 --> 01:32:04,359
the what's other? I'm so hungry now I want to pan.

1653
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,039
Speaker 6: But if you would have traveled like if if the

1654
01:32:08,079 --> 01:32:14,439
flat Earth is here, and let's say Europe starts goes

1655
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,720
that way and it keeps going to Russia. If you're

1656
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,479
in Russia and you want and you you want to

1657
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,399
go to Alaska, how do you get there by go?

1658
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:24,880
You can't go all the way around and get there

1659
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,279
like they do. Now, you got to come back across everything.

1660
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: If you if you really want to screw up your mind,

1661
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,159
take a look at flight tracker person. Yes, okay, it

1662
01:32:35,359 --> 01:32:37,760
was she wanted to have a she didn't want she

1663
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,840
was having a baby, and she was flying from the

1664
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,520
Philippines to America and instead of flying to Los Angeles,

1665
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,680
she flew to Anchorage. And the reason is on a

1666
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,920
flat earth map, Anchorage is closer to the Philippines in

1667
01:32:51,039 --> 01:32:54,520
loss than Los Angeles. Here's another one. If you're flying

1668
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,720
from Frankfurt, Germany, which is about fifty five degrees latitude yep,

1669
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:03,359
for some unknown reason, you have to fly over Greenland

1670
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,960
to get the San Jose, California, which is forty five degrees,

1671
01:33:08,119 --> 01:33:12,399
which makes no sense at all unless they're flying a

1672
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:17,159
flat route. Speaking of which, every airline pilot uses what

1673
01:33:17,359 --> 01:33:21,760
is called artificial horizon. It's a gyroscope, a mechanical gyroscope

1674
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,800
that keeps the playing level. If a jet is flying

1675
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,119
at five hundred miles an hour, he's gonna have to

1676
01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:31,000
keep nosing down if the Earth is round, Otherwise he's

1677
01:33:31,039 --> 01:33:32,279
just gonna fly off into space.

1678
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,199
Speaker 3: Right. Well, that's exactly what they do. I thought gravity

1679
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:39,319
would kind of keep that in check, and you sort.

1680
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 1: Of gravity doesn't exist. It's buoyancy. There's buoyancy, and there's density.

1681
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,800
When you when you drop a rock, it drops because

1682
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,239
it's it's heavier than air.

1683
01:33:53,239 --> 01:33:56,199
Speaker 3: Okay, well, well, my goal.

1684
01:33:56,079 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: With this interview is so that none of you have

1685
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:58,520
a good night's sleeping.

1686
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 4: That ship sailed already, man. But the reason that, the

1687
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,880
reason that that you know, a rock and I mean,

1688
01:34:07,159 --> 01:34:09,880
I know it's weird, but they proved this when they

1689
01:34:10,119 --> 01:34:14,960
allegedly landed on the Moon, was that weight doesn't have

1690
01:34:15,119 --> 01:34:18,479
anything to do with gravity. They took they you know,

1691
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,119
they there's there's atmospheric resistance. But on on the moon,

1692
01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:24,479
they took a feather and a hammer and they dropped

1693
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,800
it and they both hit the Moon at the same time.

1694
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:31,119
Speaker 3: Okay, that cruise, that was just in a soundstage. Oh

1695
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:31,600
that's right.

1696
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:36,159
Speaker 4: Okay, just so so you know, I mean I love

1697
01:34:36,279 --> 01:34:38,760
the idea, you know, in a way. And how does

1698
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:40,840
how does the devil come into this? We got to

1699
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,840
get another round, so it was how does he how

1700
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:44,479
we go with this?

1701
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Now we go with the spiritual aspect. I already told

1702
01:34:47,279 --> 01:34:50,399
you that the world would collapse if they announced the

1703
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,119
Earth was flat, Susan.

1704
01:34:52,039 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Susan.

1705
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,399
Speaker 3: There would be more chaos, I get it.

1706
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,119
Speaker 1: It would be complete chaos. The stock market would crashaly

1707
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:00,920
world War three. Yes, you agree with that, though, I

1708
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,199
mean people will go crazy.

1709
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:05,159
Speaker 4: We're already having that right now. So you can't impress them.

1710
01:35:07,039 --> 01:35:09,479
If they all they'd have to do is just close

1711
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,800
that aliens are here, when it would do a collapse

1712
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,920
just like that. Well, I mean, you really want.

1713
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: To if only there was a movie coming out in July.

1714
01:35:17,079 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 3: There is a movie coming out in July.

1715
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I dis close your day.

1716
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, the gas up, gas up, and everybody does.

1717
01:35:25,159 --> 01:35:27,159
Speaker 4: Brandy, go ahead, brand aliens.

1718
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,279
Speaker 1: Our alien saviors are going to arrive, So get ready, Brandy.

1719
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 14: Place are you saying that people would be because they

1720
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:41,119
would realize they were caged basically in this flat earth

1721
01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:45,760
with a with a firmament. That's why they would panic

1722
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,760
and freak out?

1723
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 13: Is that because they would realize they.

1724
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 14: Were like.

1725
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,399
Speaker 3: Cage on rats in the cage. Yeah, rats on the cage.

1726
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah exactly. But you know, not all people would

1727
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,479
freak out. This is the really weird twist. And now

1728
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,560
I'll get into the spiritual angle I believe and this

1729
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:06,720
is just my own spiritual belief. You know, I don't

1730
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,279
know what you guys believe, but I believe that Lucifer

1731
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:14,159
is in fact hiding the flat earth because he doesn't

1732
01:36:14,199 --> 01:36:17,640
want man to realize that this is intelligent design. If

1733
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,680
man came to the realization some who were atheists woke

1734
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,840
up one morning and realized that the earth had a

1735
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,520
dome above and was actually structured, and that the sun

1736
01:36:28,039 --> 01:36:31,319
moved above the earth and we didn't wrote from the sun.

1737
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:36,560
They would lean towards the following question who built this place?

1738
01:36:37,279 --> 01:36:39,359
And how do I get to know him? And that

1739
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:44,239
would lead a lot of people who do a lot

1740
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:46,319
of people would physically get him boats and go there.

1741
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,720
But I think a lot of people also would become Christians.

1742
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,960
They would go, well, this may be the God, just

1743
01:36:54,039 --> 01:36:56,880
the God that created this place. For some, it's not

1744
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,399
for Christians. Believe me, I've been getting I've had this

1745
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,199
going on or this belief for eleven years. Yes, and

1746
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,479
the biggest pushback I get is actually from Christians, not

1747
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:07,439
non believers.

1748
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, interesting question.

1749
01:37:10,319 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 12: Please the potential dumb question here.

1750
01:37:15,079 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 5: But with everything that you're saying, all I can picture

1751
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,279
in my head is when people say, if the earth

1752
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,760
is flat and you're on a boat or a ship

1753
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,399
and you get to the edge, why don't you fall off?

1754
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 3: Why don't you fall off?

1755
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,119
Speaker 1: It's a great question. Ahead, let's go back to nineteen

1756
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,119
forty seven. You remember a guy named Admiral Bird.

1757
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:39,239
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he went to Antarctica.

1758
01:37:39,319 --> 01:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, he was commissioned by the military to go

1759
01:37:42,359 --> 01:37:45,039
to Antarctica. Did you know that he actually had a diary?

1760
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, oh you do. Yeah, well it's a book,

1761
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,399
yeah right yeah birds yeah yeah.

1762
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: And he talks about how once he got past the

1763
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,399
ice wall about seven eight hundred miles, it actually started

1764
01:37:59,399 --> 01:38:03,439
to get more and he started seeing trees, he saw

1765
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:10,479
Willie Mammoth and then this is what he said, For once,

1766
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,840
I'm not the crazy one. And he said that he

1767
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:20,840
was intercepted by aliens, Paul White, aliens who took him

1768
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,640
to Middle Earth where there was another son, and they said,

1769
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,319
ever since you guys blew up the bomb in Hiroshima,

1770
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,840
we need you to stop killing each other, and they

1771
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,359
sent him back to give that message to the Pentagon.

1772
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,279
The Pentagon told him to shut up, that he's in

1773
01:38:37,359 --> 01:38:40,199
the military, he could face a court martial and that

1774
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,960
was the end of it. And apparently his son released

1775
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,199
his diary and that's what happened to Admiral Byrd. So

1776
01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:50,640
I also believe that the Earth is in fact hollow

1777
01:38:51,399 --> 01:38:53,600
in parts, and maybe this has something to do with

1778
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,960
a Nephelom. And I know you guys were also talking

1779
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,319
about freemasonry during the break. Just so you'll know the

1780
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,720
book Lucifer's Flat Earth, it's not just about flat Earth.

1781
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:08,520
I talk about alchemy, freemasonry, the occultic arts and how

1782
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:15,760
all of it ties into transhumanism. Elon Musk Noah Harari

1783
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:21,399
and where we're going right now with these shots and

1784
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,720
other nefarious agenda.

1785
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,039
Speaker 3: Please say no, hang on just a second.

1786
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:35,159
Speaker 8: About AI?

1787
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:40,279
Speaker 1: Well what about AI? What you know?

1788
01:39:40,319 --> 01:39:41,399
Speaker 8: What you're feeling about AI?

1789
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,119
Speaker 3: Is that part if you ask?

1790
01:39:44,279 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 12: The answer was to my question.

1791
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 4: Go ahead, So you fall off? If you're in a boat,

1792
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,960
why don't you fall off? People people have say you

1793
01:39:53,039 --> 01:39:55,359
can't go world, They won't let you go there.

1794
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,039
Speaker 1: Let's say let's say you leave Boston Harbor, yes, and

1795
01:39:59,159 --> 01:40:02,520
you head south. You head down South America, Tierra del

1796
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:06,680
Flago and you hit Antarctica. You take you hit the

1797
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,239
ice wall, which is two hundred feet high. If you

1798
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:12,600
take a right, you're gonna go sixty thousand miles in

1799
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,119
a circle and come right back where you went Gierra

1800
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:19,000
del Fuego. If you go the other way, you're still

1801
01:40:19,079 --> 01:40:22,520
gonna go back to where you start, you'll circumnavigate the

1802
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:27,760
Earth along the ice wall and beyond that. We don't

1803
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,079
know how far Antarctica goes because the Nation State Treaty,

1804
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,680
which was signed in nineteen fifty eight by all the

1805
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,560
nations of the world, makes it illegal for you to

1806
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,960
go to Antarctica. Why can't we go to Antarctica.

1807
01:40:41,279 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: Well, people go to Antatica all the time. Coco was

1808
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:46,600
in Anatica for a year. I mean.

1809
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: You have to go Juantas Airlines. Yeah, Quantas Airlines goes

1810
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,239
along the coastline. You take a couple of pictures with

1811
01:40:56,319 --> 01:40:58,800
a penguin, and that's it. Not allowed to go into

1812
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,479
interior Antarctica or you'll be shot down.

1813
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 3: Listen, hang on that.

1814
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 4: But but there there were shuttle There were Shuttle flights

1815
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:12,640
that were polar orbit flights, okay, and they went from

1816
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,319
South Pole to the North Pole. That's that's the orbit

1817
01:41:15,399 --> 01:41:18,760
that they took. Okay, how about it. So that's that's

1818
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,920
a fact. How about when you have like something like

1819
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,920
the Hubble telescope, that James Webb telescope, and they take

1820
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,800
pictures now of not just stars, but like these other

1821
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,920
little planets, exo planets and stuff. They were a round.

1822
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,880
So are we the only flat planet and everything else

1823
01:41:36,079 --> 01:41:36,680
is round?

1824
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,039
Speaker 1: Well, then you have to get back to what is

1825
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:43,800
a planet? I personally don't believe that planets are what

1826
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:44,600
we're being told.

1827
01:41:45,079 --> 01:41:47,319
Speaker 4: But they're actually lights. But what are the pictures? Are

1828
01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:49,960
they faking all those pictures? They faking all the Hubble

1829
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:51,880
and James Web pictures and stuff.

1830
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 1: No, if you look through a telescope, you'll see a

1831
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,920
light blinking. You won't see a planet. You'll see a

1832
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,000
light blinking. Why is it blinking? Why is it twinkling?

1833
01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:05,399
Speaker 3: But I've seen, but I've seen.

1834
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,520
Speaker 4: I've seen satin and it's moons through telescopes on the

1835
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,840
top of bu They let you up there, you know,

1836
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,600
for free to see these things. It's spectacular. But it's

1837
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,920
like they're round, man, They're round, you know.

1838
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not denying that, So I'm denying what they are. Okay,

1839
01:42:24,239 --> 01:42:26,880
they say their planets. I say they're luminaries.

1840
01:42:28,159 --> 01:42:30,279
Speaker 4: Okay, But but either way, they're round, you know what

1841
01:42:30,319 --> 01:42:34,520
I mean? They have a round They've been photographed, right, right?

1842
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,880
And so so are we the only flat one? And

1843
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,920
everything else is around? I'm trying to get my head

1844
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:39,319
around this.

1845
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:43,199
Speaker 1: Well, that's a really good question. I don't know. I

1846
01:42:43,279 --> 01:42:45,560
haven't been there. I can tell you that the moon,

1847
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,479
from what I've seen, is a disc because you can

1848
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:53,199
see other stars shining through it. It's translucent. The moon

1849
01:42:53,279 --> 01:42:54,000
is translucent.

1850
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:56,199
Speaker 3: No, man, go ahead.

1851
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:03,359
Speaker 13: They're light And I'm not trying to disagree with you

1852
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:04,279
when all of it.

1853
01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:09,399
Speaker 14: If they're lights, and let's say they're globe lights, okay,

1854
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,039
because I could go to the hardware store today and

1855
01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:14,439
buy a light fixture that looks like a globe and

1856
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:19,880
it's actually a light. So if these globe lights are

1857
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:24,239
up there, are they inside the firmament or outside the firmament?

1858
01:43:26,359 --> 01:43:27,119
Speaker 1: They're inside.

1859
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 3: They're inside the depth except for.

1860
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,239
Speaker 1: The moon and the sun. And the reason is that

1861
01:43:33,399 --> 01:43:38,680
the moon and the sun don't twinkle. Actually, if you

1862
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,439
read the Bible, in the very first chapter of Genesis,

1863
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:47,359
God says he separated the waters above from the waters below.

1864
01:43:48,319 --> 01:43:51,840
What that means is that there's water above us and

1865
01:43:52,039 --> 01:43:55,079
water below us. And that's where I believe the stars are.

1866
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:58,039
They're on the other side of the firmament. The firmament

1867
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:04,119
is this encased, translucent dome. Who built it? All of

1868
01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:04,560
the earth?

1869
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Speaker 4: Who built that? Who built the dome. God God did Okay,

1870
01:44:09,079 --> 01:44:11,520
all right, So the same guy who built the staircase.

1871
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Speaker 3: Speaking of dome, go ahead.

1872
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 7: This reminds me of a movie, The Truman Show.

1873
01:44:20,359 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.

1874
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 1: He was.

1875
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:27,119
Speaker 7: He lived in a community that was under a dome in.

1876
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Speaker 3: A big studio. Jim Carrey.

1877
01:44:29,399 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 7: Sounds almost like you're trying to take some of that,

1878
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,199
because that's what this sounds like, The Truman Show.

1879
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: Well, and what was the name of the director.

1880
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Speaker 3: Wasn't Stanley Kubrick, No, Christoph.

1881
01:44:43,039 --> 01:44:46,399
Speaker 1: Ed Harris played a character called Christophe. It was a

1882
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,439
play on the word christ Uh huh.

1883
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

1884
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 6: They could have thought for more than five seconds. Antarctica

1885
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,119
if you get on you can't go to Antarctica. But

1886
01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:59,359
how about the Arctic? Can you up in the Arctic North? Yes,

1887
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,960
you can, because that's in the pancake.

1888
01:45:02,079 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: You can't go over the North Pole.

1889
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Speaker 3: So you're telling me clause isn't real life? They go,

1890
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,479
you really, no, I really depressed.

1891
01:45:12,039 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Just here to blow your mind.

1892
01:45:13,039 --> 01:45:14,079
Speaker 3: Man, Well you've done that.

1893
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Speaker 1: You know.

1894
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 3: When I stopped doing high drugs in the sixties.

1895
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,079
Speaker 1: Was when I started. When I start when I started

1896
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,239
doing this, I really soft pedaled it at first, because

1897
01:45:27,279 --> 01:45:30,479
I wanted to ease people into it, right, and that

1898
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,239
didn't work after eleven years. No, it didn't work at all.

1899
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All I got was ridiculed. I figured, if I'm going

1900
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,079
to get ridiculed, well at least give them the shock

1901
01:45:37,159 --> 01:45:40,439
therapy caused people not to have a good night's sleep

1902
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,439
and at least look up in the sky and question

1903
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,520
their reality. Yes, and it's been a good day.

1904
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:47,039
Speaker 3: I did that.

1905
01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:50,560
Speaker 4: Anyway, to plug your book again, please done? Plug your book?

1906
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1907
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:56,159
Speaker 1: Sure. It's called Lucifer's Flat Earth and it's written by

1908
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,439
Dylan Campbell. Dylan is my pen.

1909
01:45:59,399 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 3: Name, okay.

1910
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 4: And if you have Amazon, if you have a pen name,

1911
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,560
why would you tell people what your real name is.

1912
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Speaker 1: I'm really bored with Don I don't know if you've

1913
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,039
ever met him, but he's not an interesting person.

1914
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Dylan is.

1915
01:46:15,399 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: Dylan is amazing. He's a Scott. He's a Scott, has

1916
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:21,920
problem with the English and authority. He likes wearing a

1917
01:46:22,039 --> 01:46:25,840
kill a skirt killed. Yeah, he's very very fond of.

1918
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that. Robert Zimmerman had the same idea.

1919
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,279
He's just he's like Dylan, So he went with Robert Dylan.

1920
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,479
Wait a minute, Bob Dylan, that'd be good.

1921
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,199
Speaker 4: Hey, Susan, Susan, I'm gonna ask Susan something, what do

1922
01:46:40,279 --> 01:46:41,760
you believe earth flat?

1923
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 3: Around?

1924
01:46:44,279 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 12: So I'm still with the round because as much as

1925
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,479
we talk about the ice wall, and we haven't really

1926
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:55,720
so you're telling me around the hedge of the flat

1927
01:46:55,880 --> 01:47:01,920
earth is an ice wall. So I still am here.

1928
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Speaker 5: I don't think I've had an answer to why don't

1929
01:47:05,239 --> 01:47:07,560
the ships just fall off unless.

1930
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Speaker 1: You're telling why that's why they That's exactly that's where

1931
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the ocean ends.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But.

1933
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Speaker 1: Equator right, the equator is halfway up the disc again.

1934
01:47:25,359 --> 01:47:30,319
Put youre a frisbee upside down. Now go halfway up

1935
01:47:30,399 --> 01:47:33,920
the frisbee and draw a circle. That's the equator. Go

1936
01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:36,680
to the middle of the frisbee. That's the north pole.

1937
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. So but people have let's say,

1938
01:47:41,279 --> 01:47:46,760
taken a boat from San Diego and sail to Taiwan.

1939
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:48,560
They didn't fall off.

1940
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: Why because they're all within the enclosed system.

1941
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 4: Okay, there are people, but there are people who have.

1942
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,199
But there's people who have literally serving what you saying

1943
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:05,439
that they've gone around the world. Right now, Magellan did

1944
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,199
it in a in a ship with you know, a

1945
01:48:08,319 --> 01:48:10,920
wind driven ship. How did that happen?

1946
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:16,359
Speaker 1: He did circumnavigate the Earth right again, look at the

1947
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:20,399
Frisbee upside down, go halfway up to where the equator is,

1948
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,119
and he went around in a circle.

1949
01:48:23,279 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 4: Okay. How about the guy who remember about twenty years ago?

1950
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:30,359
That guy flew around the Earth right without stopping Rennet

1951
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,840
and his name was you created that we had airplane

1952
01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:36,920
and they literally took off and flew for five days,

1953
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:40,520
he and his ex wife around the world. How did

1954
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,079
that happen?

1955
01:48:42,119 --> 01:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Same way? But it's a matter of perspective. Okay, the

1956
01:48:47,039 --> 01:48:49,760
ball Earth. What you guys believe is that the Earth

1957
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,239
is twenty four thousand, nine and one miles at the

1958
01:48:53,319 --> 01:48:57,479
equator right, Okay, I'm saying what I believe is that

1959
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,640
actually the Earth is much larger than the The Antarctic

1960
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,039
ice wall, which is the outer rim of the Frisbee,

1961
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:09,880
is sixty thousand miles in circumference, and beyond that you

1962
01:49:10,039 --> 01:49:11,920
have to go a while before you even hit the

1963
01:49:12,039 --> 01:49:14,960
dome where the dome beats Antarctica. Right, we don't know

1964
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:15,920
go there.

1965
01:49:16,159 --> 01:49:20,079
Speaker 6: So is the Earth the flat Earth? Is it round?

1966
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Or is it elongated. I'm kind of curious what Susan's

1967
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,520
got a frisbee? We shouldn demonstrate it right now.

1968
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Speaker 4: It kind of.

1969
01:49:28,039 --> 01:49:30,359
Speaker 1: What I what I believe is that it is exactly

1970
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,520
like that frisbee. There's a bit of a dip, and

1971
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,800
there's a curved edge, almost like a lip, that goes

1972
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,760
around all of it, which again is the Antarctic ice wall.

1973
01:49:40,039 --> 01:49:44,399
But all the continents in the world are contained within

1974
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:45,920
that frisbee. Do you know?

1975
01:49:46,079 --> 01:49:49,119
Speaker 3: Then one side Susan's inside Susan's pencil.

1976
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,079
Speaker 6: The edge, I guess, is the like I said, is

1977
01:49:53,079 --> 01:49:57,840
the flat Earth round? Or is it elongated like an ellipse?

1978
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,640
Or is it a the pancake?

1979
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:02,199
Speaker 1: Is it.

1980
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 3: It's more like.

1981
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:10,560
Speaker 1: As more concave and then it just goes We don't

1982
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,239
know how far it might go a lot further than anyone.

1983
01:50:14,359 --> 01:50:17,039
Speaker 3: Up and down because the width I think.

1984
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: It's a long. It's elongated.

1985
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 4: All right, So so so let me We're gonna like

1986
01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:26,199
one more question and then we'll okay, right right, so

1987
01:50:26,359 --> 01:50:30,239
real quick, Okay, So NASA is is behind all this

1988
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:35,520
and they have this this unbelievable gigantic movie, uh business

1989
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:36,239
right doing this?

1990
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Speaker 3: How about NASA is a fraud anyway, and a lot of.

1991
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,079
Speaker 4: They don't do a lot of things right, but they

1992
01:50:42,399 --> 01:50:44,760
did get us to the moon. So so all right,

1993
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,199
all right, so let's say that's true. Well, how about

1994
01:50:47,239 --> 01:50:50,000
the Chinese have been They've shot stuff to the moon,

1995
01:50:50,319 --> 01:50:52,479
they have stuff in orbit. You know a lot of

1996
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:57,359
different countries have satellites in orbit for communication, stuff like that.

1997
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,479
Why would they, you know, perpetual the NASA hoax and

1998
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,640
we don't no one in this world gets along with anybody.

1999
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,520
Why would that be the one thing that they discided

2000
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:08,359
to keep secret?

2001
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:10,079
Speaker 1: Great question?

2002
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,520
Speaker 8: Itack, it goes everything.

2003
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,239
Speaker 1: It goes back to the Nation strait, the Nation State

2004
01:51:16,399 --> 01:51:21,199
Treaty of nineteen fifty eight. Okay, after Admiral Bird went

2005
01:51:21,239 --> 01:51:24,720
to Antarctica, they immediately shut it off. They came up

2006
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:28,680
with the Nation State Treaty. Nobody is allowed to go

2007
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:33,880
to Antarctica. All the nations signed off, the same nations

2008
01:51:34,239 --> 01:51:36,000
that signed off on the space program.

2009
01:51:36,399 --> 01:51:38,359
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, if you want to know a.

2010
01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: Conspiracy, they're all in on it. At the very top echelon.

2011
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,159
They had India landing on the Moon about six months ago,

2012
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,199
and the graphics were so comical it looked like it

2013
01:51:50,279 --> 01:51:52,039
was a fifty dollars map program.

2014
01:51:52,199 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 14: That's offensive, didn't They all also sign off that no

2015
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:01,520
one is no country or countries is or are allowed

2016
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:06,600
to own any of Antarctica. The only place in the

2017
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,239
world that's not allowed to be owned that country.

2018
01:52:11,399 --> 01:52:16,119
Speaker 1: Yes, the bird, during his interview before he died on television,

2019
01:52:16,399 --> 01:52:19,600
said that there's a lot of minerals there and a

2020
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,680
lot of wealth. He doesn't understand why nobody's going down there,

2021
01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:23,720
but now.

2022
01:52:24,159 --> 01:52:27,319
Speaker 4: Be very expensive to you know, get all that stuff

2023
01:52:27,359 --> 01:52:30,199
out of there, transport it back and hey, listen, done.

2024
01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:32,359
It wasn't a dyal in that. I mean, let's clamp

2025
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:36,920
to him because he's been very brave, gave you a

2026
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,520
lot to think about. Really plug your book one more

2027
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:40,199
time please.

2028
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: It's called Lucifer's Flat Earth by Dylan Campbell, available at Amazon.

2029
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 4: Is this your one and only book? Yeah? What a

2030
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,319
pain in the ass to write a book. Doesn't that

2031
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:55,479
really suck? Doesn't it?

2032
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,399
Speaker 3: When you say yes, he agrees we agree on something.

2033
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,199
Thank you, don Well marketing.

2034
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: Marketing, it's the real bitch.

2035
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way kid.

2036
01:53:06,079 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 4: Anyway. Okay, so listen, I think right we're bringing the

2037
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:12,800
ship into the dock right there. One look at it

2038
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,439
you like you would. Okay, So I want to thank

2039
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,399
everyone for joining us and listening to us tonight.

2040
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 3: Let me do the plugs real quick.

2041
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:24,199
Speaker 4: So Homestar Troops home Start Troops as you know, as

2042
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:27,279
an organization that raises money for our veterans who have

2043
01:53:27,359 --> 01:53:31,079
been hurt, injured, wounded after nine to eleven. That's the

2044
01:53:31,159 --> 01:53:35,640
Iraqi War and the Affluine ware and I guess probably

2045
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,439
the Iran war.

2046
01:53:37,039 --> 01:53:37,159
Speaker 1: Uh.

2047
01:53:37,279 --> 01:53:40,319
Speaker 4: These are people who come home without limbs, many of them,

2048
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,079
and Home Start Troops. What they do is they build

2049
01:53:43,239 --> 01:53:47,399
homes that adapted to their needs. And that is maybe

2050
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,640
lowest lower count is not a lot of stays, stuff

2051
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,880
like that. And when they completed, they give the veteran

2052
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,279
the home. They rip up the mortgage, give them the keys.

2053
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,640
It's their home forever for free. And they are people

2054
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,520
who and go out back out into society, joint society

2055
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,479
in a way that they deserve too. These are people

2056
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,439
who gave a lot to us. We should give a

2057
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,319
lot to them. Please, Homesread Troops, google them, see what

2058
01:54:12,359 --> 01:54:16,680
they're about. Ninety cents on your dollar those right. Trap veterans. Also,

2059
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,720
I have to mention this. I hate to get into

2060
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:20,600
the politics of.

2061
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: This, but.

2062
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:27,039
Speaker 4: You know, six service people were killed in Iran during

2063
01:54:27,119 --> 01:54:29,800
this excursion, as they are now calling it, right, this

2064
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,560
thing is really kind of spiraling out of control. But

2065
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:38,079
and what happened was when someone when US troops die overseas,

2066
01:54:38,119 --> 01:54:44,279
they have this thing called the distinguished Transfer, the dignified Transfer,

2067
01:54:44,359 --> 01:54:46,880
And what that is is that is that they fly

2068
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:51,039
the serviceman back to the United States and their caskets,

2069
01:54:51,079 --> 01:54:53,960
their bodies are then turned over from the plane crew

2070
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,079
to the division of the military. That is basically you

2071
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:02,159
know the kind of what would you call it, uh,

2072
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,920
you know where the dead guys go, where the dead

2073
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,239
soldiers go to be buried, you know, the internment department

2074
01:55:08,359 --> 01:55:11,640
or something like that. Okay, it's a ceremony and it

2075
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,760
and and it's it's very solemn, okay. And if you've

2076
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,840
ever seen it done, it's just very it's very quiet,

2077
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,319
it's very quick, and it's the first time the families

2078
01:55:21,359 --> 01:55:25,359
get to be with their loved ones. Right, our president,

2079
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,199
this fucking guy, and we're going to have to cut

2080
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:31,800
that out or maybe not went and he did not

2081
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,640
take off his baseball cap at this Okay, that is

2082
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:39,640
a disgrace. That is such a disgrace to all veterans.

2083
01:55:40,119 --> 01:55:42,439
All right, not to take off your cat why because

2084
01:55:42,479 --> 01:55:45,600
you hear looks like someone piste on cotton candy. I mean,

2085
01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:51,760
that is so disgraceful and just so just so unevil, okay,

2086
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:55,479
and non thinking. It's amazing that this guy is the

2087
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,319
president of the United States, that he's the most powerful person.

2088
01:55:58,079 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 3: In the world.

2089
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 4: And and look what he has done. Look what he

2090
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,239
has done, right, just to keep Epstein off the headlines.

2091
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:07,479
All right, those six servicemen now seven, they're not coming back,

2092
01:56:08,239 --> 01:56:11,399
all right, they're not coming back. They're gone forever. And

2093
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:15,439
these people and Iran that have they're just civilians. There's

2094
01:56:15,439 --> 01:56:17,520
at least a thousand of them. They're not coming back.

2095
01:56:18,279 --> 01:56:22,159
And these kids in the school that got bombed, Okay,

2096
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:26,199
they're dead forever. So just think about that for a second.

2097
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,760
The type of person who would not take off their

2098
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,880
hat at a dignified transfer is the type of person

2099
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,039
who is going to lie to you, is going to

2100
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:38,239
mislead you down a path that we do not want

2101
01:56:38,279 --> 01:56:41,600
to go. How they treat their veterans, How a country

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treats their veterans, it's how they treat the rest of us. Okay,

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keep that in mind when you see what's happening to

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these vets these days. Okay, So anyway, thank you for listening,

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and until next time. This is back for the entire gang.

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I just want to say goodbye to everyone.

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Speaker 3: Club.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Club, thank you Susan, thank you for we

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get the Heart again, thank you, thanks Kim for joining us.

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Don Campbell, thank you very much, and let's see you

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very soon. Okay, come back on anytime, Don, it is

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really good. Thank you, Dyling, Thank you for uh so

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n you hear us. Next time, please be safe, be happy,

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and and bye bye