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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back in the rast Ball Fantasy Baseball Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am beat on, joined by the One, the only,
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Master, Lethario himself.
Speaker 2: Gray. All right, how's it going over there?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a little annoyed. To be honest, I'll
Speaker 3: be honest with you. Hey, Hey, good to see you.
Speaker 3: I'm a little annoyed though. I every actually every year
Speaker 3: around this time. You know why I'm mad? Right? You
Speaker 3: know you know what's coming. You know what's coming, don't you.
Speaker 3: Every year around this time I get so annoyed at
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame inductions. I hate it. Man, I
Speaker 3: hated so much that that Barry Bonds is not in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Like it's like, I really feel
Speaker 3: like baseball is gas lighting all its fans by not
Speaker 3: putting Bond in the Hall of Fame. And this weekend
Speaker 3: was especially bad because Jeff Kent, Jeff Kent, of all people,
Speaker 3: of all people, Jeff Kent gets inducted into the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame, the guy who directly benefited from Barry Bonds. Like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? Man?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 3: Is it frustrating? A really angry but a way to
Speaker 3: start a podcast. I'm so mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gray, I mean we have we have Barry Bonds
Speaker 1: not in but with him obviously Roger Clemans and Sammy Sosau,
Speaker 1: Many Ramirez. This was his last year for the ballot.
Speaker 1: He'll go He'll go to the you know, the players vote.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's a.
Speaker 3: Really Manny's never getting in. He'll never get in with
Speaker 3: the Veterans Committee. If they don't let Bonds in on
Speaker 3: the Batterns Committee, they're never letting Manny in. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's honestly, like I say, like it feels like everyone's
Speaker 3: gaslighting us because it's like with our own eyes we
Speaker 3: watched these baseball We watched them and we were like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, and it's like, okay, but they cheated like well,
Speaker 3: first of all, ah, First of all, Pudge Rodriguez was
Speaker 3: nicknamed Pudge because he was so stocky. And then when
Speaker 3: he got traded to the Tigers and they started suspending
Speaker 3: people because the steroids, Pudge suddenly became Slim Rodriguez. So
Speaker 3: talk to me about steroids being in the Hall of Fame. Also, oh,
Speaker 3: Mike Biazza and Backne, Oh I do get that. Oh, oh,
Speaker 3: Mike Biazza sartainly started going through puberty at the age
Speaker 3: of thirty. Okay, yeah, sure, right, yeah, that's why he
Speaker 3: had Backne. Come on, man, come on, man, I so
Speaker 3: fired up. It's ridiculous though, seriously, because if anyone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Barry Bonds was cheating like a he was never caught
Speaker 3: for cheating.
Speaker 4: B Steroids wasn't even illegal when he was doing them.
Speaker 3: There was no lung against steroids. It wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't do steroids in the major leagues.
Speaker 4: There was no there was no rule on the books,
Speaker 4: and they put Bud Ceiling in the All Fame. He
Speaker 4: was the guy who orchestrated all this.
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm so mad.
Speaker 2: Saved the game? He did, ray And how exactly did
Speaker 2: that happen? How exactly did he He saved the game?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, save the game by covering up everything
Speaker 3: with his ugly ass to pay. That's how Ceilings saved
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 3: Oh, why would I start a podcast so mad?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking for somebody to cover stuff up,
Speaker 1: it should start, like the search should start with somebody
Speaker 1: with a good tu pay, Like you know what, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that was real. Like this is a
Speaker 1: good start, This is a this is a good start
Speaker 1: to what we're looking for at this position.
Speaker 2: What else have you come?
Speaker 3: Actually he covered up steroids as well as he covered
Speaker 3: up his bald head. Oh fired up?
Speaker 1: Well, Grey, I don't know if this topic is gonna
Speaker 1: gonna make you any less fired up.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about let's talk about Jose.
Speaker 1: Cabbiero's uh, you know day week, you know, this time
Speaker 1: of the year for for him, he's been and we
Speaker 1: shoot a few warnings and finally got called out and
Speaker 1: and there was a little bit of a bench clearing,
Speaker 1: and you know, the whole the whole thing over his
Speaker 1: his what you want to call it, his hitting preparation,
Speaker 1: Gray with with the with the shot clock on the
Speaker 1: on the or the pitch clock sorry wrong sport the
Speaker 1: pitch clock.
Speaker 2: And then of course in the same week Gray, he
Speaker 2: is called.
Speaker 1: Or he's he's given a ruling defensively that he purposely
Speaker 1: dropped an infield liner to make his double play hold off.
Speaker 2: That's it feels like COVID.
Speaker 1: Jose Cabriero is that guy in the comment section yelling
Speaker 1: about the ziplings and how he can write it all
Speaker 1: the way to the end, and you you have to
Speaker 1: let him in like this is this is what it's
Speaker 1: feeling like.
Speaker 3: Gray. Well, you know, I have actually complicated feelings on
Speaker 3: Jose Cabriiro, because, like, I think the pitch clock is
Speaker 3: legitimately good. I think it's I like the pitch clock.
Speaker 3: I mean I you know, as anyone who's familiar RAS ball,
Speaker 3: I write five times a week. I cover all the games,
Speaker 3: so it's nice for me that the games go a
Speaker 3: little bit faster. It was a little bit tough when
Speaker 3: it was like four hour games. So from a personal standpoint,
Speaker 3: I like two and a half hour games. I don't
Speaker 3: mind them. I like the pitch clock. I I do.
Speaker 3: I like, I like it a lot. But on the
Speaker 3: other hand, so this is how it gets complicated because
Speaker 3: like what Jose Cabrierra was doing was like, you have
Speaker 3: to you have to make eye contact with the picture
Speaker 3: at eight seconds left on the clock. Uh, and at
Speaker 3: that point the pitcher can then start his wind up.
Speaker 3: And they were saying that Cabiiro would get into the
Speaker 3: batter's box, stare it, stare it like the opposing dugout,
Speaker 3: like just looking off, looking off in mid distance, like, uh, Jose,
Speaker 3: you gotta you got an eye problem, bro, What why
Speaker 3: are you not turning your head? So he would just
Speaker 3: like stare straight ahead and look at like the first row,
Speaker 3: like he was making eye contact with a lady or
Speaker 3: something in the first row, and then at eight seconds
Speaker 3: he would turn to the picture, and that's when the
Speaker 3: picture could start to wind up. So now if he's
Speaker 3: looking so if Cabrierra was looking at the dugout or
Speaker 3: you know, the lady in the first row eating cotton candy,
Speaker 3: and he was saying like, if he was looking at
Speaker 3: her and the picture started to move, then the picture
Speaker 3: would get called for a pitchclock violation. If it was
Speaker 3: before eight seconds left and then so he was so
Speaker 3: Cabrierra was actually using that as an advantage, like he
Speaker 3: was getting a lot of pictures to move before he
Speaker 3: looked at them, and they were getting called for pitch violations.
Speaker 3: Now this week, the uh, the Office of the Commissioner, eh,
Speaker 3: the Office of the Commissioner said that Cabrierro can't do that, honestly.
Speaker 3: So that's where I get really conflicted, because it's like,
Speaker 3: why can't he do it? That's the rule. You just
Speaker 3: have to look at the picture with eight seconds left.
Speaker 3: So if I want to be, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: play head games and not look at the picture before
Speaker 3: eight seconds, it's like, okay, I mean what, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know. I honestly don't even know how this became,
Speaker 3: Like how this even became a rule where Cabiiro was
Speaker 3: wrong because like as much as I do like the
Speaker 3: pitch clock, he's kind of right. I mean he's doing
Speaker 3: I mean he's doing he's within the letter of the law.
Speaker 3: Like he's not looking at the picture until eight seconds,
Speaker 3: but as long as he looks at the picture at
Speaker 3: eight seconds, the picture can start then. And this is
Speaker 3: all you know, it's like, I mean, he was messing
Speaker 3: up the picture's rhythm for sure, but that's the idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole point of hitting is to
Speaker 3: try and get the picture out of their game, and
Speaker 3: the pictures deal is to get the hitter out of
Speaker 3: their game. So I'm really kind of conflicted here. I
Speaker 3: feel like Cabriero is being painted as the bad guy,
Speaker 3: and I don't really see him as the bad guy. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I I and I mean I
Speaker 3: I think I think Cabrierra was right to not look
Speaker 3: at the picture until eight seconds. He he found a
Speaker 3: loophole and he was exploiting it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, the example of the examples I've
Speaker 1: seen kind of thrown together where it's like, oh, here's
Speaker 1: the examples where he's violating it. It's like he looks
Speaker 1: at the picture, but then he immediately looks either back
Speaker 1: towards the dugout or like down and so he like
Speaker 1: makes eye contact, but like then he looks elsewhere to
Speaker 1: kind of throw them off again to make it seem
Speaker 1: like he didn't make eye contact.
Speaker 2: That's so those are the ones that I've seen.
Speaker 3: Very funny, I mean, that's so hilarious. If that's what's
Speaker 3: going on, uh, Cabrierra. I mean, baseball needs a villain.
Speaker 3: So if Cabriero wants to step up and be the villain,
Speaker 3: that's awesome. I love it. You know, I'm all for
Speaker 3: him being a total idiot. I love it. I but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean if he looks at the picture and then
Speaker 3: looks away and the picture starts, and then the picture
Speaker 3: gets called for a ball because of that or a
Speaker 3: pitchclock violation, which is a ball he would, then then
Speaker 3: there should be some sort of replay to see if
Speaker 3: Cabriirero looks at the picture like that's I mean you
Speaker 3: need to do You need to have replay involved then,
Speaker 3: like the like, if he looks at the picture and
Speaker 3: the picture starts and then the picture gets called for
Speaker 3: a ball or a violation, then the picture should say okay,
Speaker 3: well time out. Let's look at the replay and see
Speaker 3: if he looked at me like that, and then it
Speaker 3: should be a strike. Like they're like, there needs to
Speaker 3: be some like, you know, accountability. If Cabriirero is looking
Speaker 3: at the picture, but if he's just looking at the
Speaker 3: dugout and never looking at the picture, then I don't
Speaker 3: see the problem.
Speaker 1: So I would say, no more replay. I don't want
Speaker 1: I don't want replay. That's defeating the purpose of the
Speaker 1: pitch clock in the first place. At that point, let
Speaker 1: let's do this.
Speaker 3: I know, I agree, I agree with that, but I
Speaker 3: will say the replay. You do that once or twice,
Speaker 3: and Cabriyrre is gonna get the pitcher that he can't
Speaker 3: keep doing it. So I understand, I don't want more replay,
Speaker 3: but you know it's like you do it once. No,
Speaker 3: here's what we do.
Speaker 1: Great at eight seconds, it does not matter what the
Speaker 1: batter is doing. At eight seconds, the pitcher can throw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you pick.
Speaker 1: If the batter is not ready, screw it, that's you pitch.
Speaker 1: You can fast pitch him, you can slide pitch him,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: Do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: If he's not ready, he's not ready, like or you
Speaker 1: can even say, like seven seconds, you give him extra
Speaker 1: second off of what they have to have him get ready.
Speaker 2: But it's seven seconds. Pitcher goes like, you're not ready.
Speaker 3: No, totally, the pit the hitter can't. The hitter can't
Speaker 3: quock time out and can't can't. Yeah, the hitter has
Speaker 3: no more control over the situation at eight seconds. I'm
Speaker 3: with that role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that way, we don't know any whatever you play,
Speaker 1: there's no like questions of did he make eye contact?
Speaker 2: Did he not look?
Speaker 1: If the batter's ready, he makes eye contact, the pitcher
Speaker 1: can go, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Eight seconds and seven seconds.
Speaker 3: Just batter. Actually, how about we not even make the
Speaker 3: batter be ready like at eight seconds? Like it sounds
Speaker 3: like we're in the front office trying to figure that. Okay,
Speaker 3: so how about this. The batter is obligated to be
Speaker 3: in the box and be ready at eight seconds. Whether
Speaker 3: it happens, like, whether he's there or not doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: If he does not call time out and he's not
Speaker 3: in the box, it's too bad. The pitcher can start
Speaker 3: his wind up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got absolutely that. We figured it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can also just take six seconds off
Speaker 1: the clock and we'll just call it the pitch clock
Speaker 1: and it'll actually be the pitch like the pitcher has
Speaker 1: to start wind up by that time.
Speaker 2: Better you be ready by then. That's also an easy solution.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's so many ways to do this where
Speaker 1: this doesn't even come into play. But let's let's we've
Speaker 1: we've ramble for a long time. Great, let's let's make
Speaker 1: let's move this to a fantasy side. Let's at least
Speaker 1: talk about Jose Cavierro rest of season Jose Caviero or
Speaker 1: Chandler Simpson.
Speaker 5: Uh I, you know, I'm gonna go Calliero mostly because
Speaker 5: I feel like, uh, well, he knows when to look
Speaker 5: at the picture.
Speaker 3: No. No, I'm going Cabro mostly because he adds a
Speaker 3: little bit of power. I mean it's very minimal, and
Speaker 3: uh uh, I think like Chandler, like Chandler Simpson, like
Speaker 3: I think it's probably a little bit of the grass
Speaker 3: is greener on the other side, because like, I actually
Speaker 3: have Simpson in a few leagues, and I wish I
Speaker 3: had anyone but him that could steal bases because I'm
Speaker 3: kind of sick of starting Simpson. To be totally frank, like,
Speaker 3: I wish I had like nacyum Nunez or Caballero instead
Speaker 3: of Simpson. So yeah, I'm gonna go caby Hero over Simpson.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about how about your former boy?
Speaker 3: Oh man, you're going back like five years to say
Speaker 3: my bully. I I don't think like Boba Schett like
Speaker 3: I actually so, I put in a bit recently for
Speaker 3: Boba Schett to pick him up, but that was a
Speaker 3: uh an L only league. It was NL only league.
Speaker 3: He was dropped in an NL only league. So that
Speaker 3: gives you an idea of where I think boba Schett's
Speaker 3: value is right now. I think it was wrong to
Speaker 3: dropping him in the and I only I like, I
Speaker 3: would have picked him up if I had, if my
Speaker 3: bid had won. But anyway, I'll go kaby Ro for Bobachhet.
Speaker 1: All right. How about Jareddaran?
Speaker 3: Uhh, that's tough.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Duran's really been terrible.
Speaker 2: He's been awful as he's awful, it's.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I wonder if he gets traded. I'm going
Speaker 3: Caballero over Duran. I think I think Duran needs a
Speaker 3: Duran is probably the number one guy who needs like
Speaker 3: a change of scenery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, although that may just also
Speaker 1: take everything he has going, because if you can't hit
Speaker 1: in Boston, like, where the hell are you gonna hit?
Speaker 3: Rockies? What are you up to? Hey? Hey, sack Sack Town,
Speaker 3: what's up man?
Speaker 1: Rockies in dust? Feel like a very Jared dar in
Speaker 1: place for him to go. But anyways, how about speech
Speaker 1: to Josh Naylor.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm still going nail Or over cabri Era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would to unless you need like
Speaker 1: Cabriira's position flexibility, like if that's a big thing for you,
Speaker 1: you have limited benches or you know, a bunch of
Speaker 1: injured guys. I could see that, But yeah, I would go.
Speaker 1: I would go Nailer and uh, you know, just be
Speaker 1: professional here. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with a transitional
Speaker 1: guy here.
Speaker 3: Greg.
Speaker 2: Hey, look Durbin, who's getting more playing time?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Uh, that's tough, man. I think I'd probably
Speaker 3: go Durban. But it feels like a toss up. It
Speaker 3: feels pretty close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I think I'd probably still go Caballero there,
Speaker 1: but you know it is, it is very close.
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned, Durban is getting more playing.
Speaker 1: Time because the Red Sox have made a couple of moves. Actually,
Speaker 1: I guess Durbin was getting the same playing time. Just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a new new teammate here and Curtis
Speaker 1: Mead coming from the Nationals as the Red Sox trade
Speaker 1: away cononly early Curtis maid has eighty seven games this year,
Speaker 1: seventeen home run six dollar bases. He's hitting two fixed
Speaker 1: four three fifty to five hundred, nineteen percent strikeouts eleven
Speaker 1: point nine percent walk should slot in as the everyday.
Speaker 2: Second basement for the Red Sox, and in.
Speaker 1: Theory, before we get to like the trade value and everything,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about the players. What do you think
Speaker 1: about Curtis meat with the Red Sox?
Speaker 3: So? Okay, so I was, you know, I was perusing
Speaker 3: people's opinions on the socials, uh, for the Curtis Mead
Speaker 3: Early trade, and it seems like it's kind of like
Speaker 3: a one of those like posters, like depending on which
Speaker 3: angle you look at it, it's like, oh that's a rose,
Speaker 3: Oh that's a toilet. It's kind of like it depends
Speaker 3: on how you perceive Curtis meeting finally early on whether
Speaker 3: or not this trade was a win for the Red
Speaker 3: Sox or than that's because like so early, as of
Speaker 3: you know, three months ago, people thought Early was going
Speaker 3: to be a huge prospect, like they like he was.
Speaker 3: I believe he was touted higher than even Peyton toll
Speaker 3: uh and everyone at the beginning of this season was
Speaker 3: like Curtis Mead is a quad a player and it's
Speaker 3: a joke that the Nationals are even starting them. So
Speaker 3: like the fact, and then you know that obviously switched
Speaker 3: this season, but did three months of this season change everything?
Speaker 3: Is I guess where people's perceptions of this trade are,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 3: would trust that the Red Sox know more about Early's
Speaker 3: arm than anyone else. So if they think like he's actually,
Speaker 3: you know, really cooked, then I mean I could see
Speaker 3: why they would want to dump him for Curtis Mead.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, Curtis Mead looks really good, but
Speaker 3: maybe the Nationals see something and they're like, oh, he
Speaker 3: can't keep this up. So it may be it may
Speaker 3: be a basic like it may be six and one
Speaker 3: half a dozen of another and they're both not very good,
Speaker 3: or they're both very good, or one's good and one's not.
Speaker 3: It's really tough to say. Uh. As for like fantasy,
Speaker 3: I like this move for Curtis Mead. As you mentioned
Speaker 3: earlier with Duran, Fenway's a great park. You're you'd be
Speaker 3: hard pressed to find a better one in the in
Speaker 3: the al outside of like Bing Bong. Uh, It's a
Speaker 3: you know, it's for a righty too. Curtis Mead's alrighty
Speaker 3: for a righty hitting balls off the wall is like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a dream man, Like he's a two
Speaker 3: fifty four hitter so far this season. He's probably two
Speaker 3: seventy five in Fenway just for polling balls. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just natural common sense. Like if a guy's gonna hit,
Speaker 3: you know, three hundred and twenty foot fly balls and
Speaker 3: have it become a double, it's gonna be better for him.
Speaker 3: So I yeah, I mean, Curtis Mead gets a I
Speaker 3: think he gets a pretty good boost up in value.
Speaker 3: The only real concern I have for me is exactly
Speaker 3: how are they deploying him. I'm assuming if he goes
Speaker 3: a second and he's every day that's great. I'm all
Speaker 3: for it. I wonder if they're just gonna, like, you know,
Speaker 3: because they have they haven't really as of the recording
Speaker 3: of this, we haven't seen a post trade lineup, so
Speaker 3: we don't know exactly right now, so it's a little
Speaker 3: bit of speculation. But if Meat is gonna be everyday
Speaker 3: second baseman, great, no, then you know, then he's probably
Speaker 3: a top ten second baseman, maybe even higher. If he's
Speaker 3: used in any sort of platoon, then we'll have to
Speaker 3: see how the platoon is. Uh. But it's hard because
Speaker 3: he's a righty, like I said, and alrighty getting platooned
Speaker 3: means he's only facing lefties, which would be awful for
Speaker 3: his value. But I don't know why the Red Sox
Speaker 3: would trade Connolly early to have Curtis Mead come in
Speaker 3: and only face lefties like That's that would be crazy.
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming Curtis Mead is gonna play nearly every day.
Speaker 3: He's gonna hit somewhere in the uh you know, top
Speaker 3: five of the lineup at worst, maybe in the top three,
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be uh, he's gonna be very valuable.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get second base eligibility, he's gonna have. It's
Speaker 3: a nice little boost for Curtis Mead. You know, he's
Speaker 3: not gonna suddenly start, you know, stealing thirty bags, and
Speaker 3: you know, he's not gonna he's not gonna become the
Speaker 3: uh you know, he's not gonna become a first rounder
Speaker 3: just with this trade. But I think he gets a
Speaker 3: little nice boost and uh, yeah, it's not bad. Chris
Speaker 3: me is definitely a target for AO only, And I
Speaker 3: mean he should really be rostered by now in any
Speaker 3: mixed league. Yeah, I mean he should have been for
Speaker 3: a while. He's been, he's been solid all year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is really gonna
Speaker 1: help him because he is, you know, as nice as
Speaker 1: the numbers have been this year, you know, best average
Speaker 1: eggs velocity, best hard hit and barrel rate of his career,
Speaker 1: there's still not there's still not impressive numbers if we're
Speaker 1: just looking at him compared to everybody else. Longch angles
Speaker 1: down for the last couple of seasons. Swinging strike rate,
Speaker 1: k rates down. Oh, that's good, but his best swing
Speaker 1: rate is bat speed. They're actually down. The fly ball
Speaker 1: rate is up somehow, just at the launch ago being down.
Speaker 1: That's that's a really weird one. So it just feels
Speaker 1: like a little bit of an overpay from from the
Speaker 1: Red Sox just in regards to what they're getting. But
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, from a Curtis Mead standpoint, this should
Speaker 1: be good. I think the seventeen home runs in the
Speaker 1: first half is probably excessive. I don't I don't ever
Speaker 1: see Curtis Mead necessarily repeating that kind of power output
Speaker 1: but but good for him. You know, he he did
Speaker 1: what he needed to and he's been he's been pretty
Speaker 1: consistent as well. So it's it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: decent fit, you know, like you said, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: helpful for him. Connally, Early, though, as you mentioned, was
Speaker 1: a top five prospect at worst for the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: first or second pitching prospect for them. Curtis Mead was
Speaker 1: DF eight last year. Like, it feels like a weird
Speaker 1: trade for for the Red Sox. Just in regards to
Speaker 1: Yes said, just how quickly they gave up on Connie Early.
Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, that's a good I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: you've you've basically encapsulated what I was thinking. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just bizarre because like even if you think Connery Early's
Speaker 3: arm is cooked, like it, it feels like you're selling
Speaker 3: low on what he was as recently as three months ago.
Speaker 3: One last thing on Curtis Mead, not that this means
Speaker 3: that much, but his expected home runs in Fenway actually
Speaker 3: comes down a few. So yeah, I wish you would
Speaker 3: expect because like if a guy hits like, you know,
Speaker 3: a line drive home run to you know, left field,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna happen in Fenway because it's gonna hit
Speaker 3: off the wall. So yeah, there's uh so Fenway actually
Speaker 3: takes a few, it takes a little bit of his
Speaker 3: power away, but I mean, like we said, it adds
Speaker 3: so much average, so it's a good it's it's a
Speaker 3: good move for Mead and Early. You know, I was
Speaker 3: I was wondering what the bid on him and an
Speaker 3: NL only because I think Early at this point. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're in a deep mixed league, you can stash Early,
Speaker 3: but I mean it's elbow inflammation and then that's just
Speaker 3: traded for him. There's no reason at all for them
Speaker 3: to really pitch him this year. I mean, maybe maybe
Speaker 3: he comes back and throws like thirty innings, but it's
Speaker 3: gonna be basically you could find it off of waivers
Speaker 3: as a streamer in most leagues, but in NL only.
Speaker 3: So I was up against, you know, whether or not
Speaker 3: the bid on him for an NL only league and
Speaker 3: also NL only keeper and a keeper. I'm still pretty interested.
Speaker 3: I you know, I probably wouldn't go I wouldn't go
Speaker 3: crazy necessarily because there is the elbow injury, which is
Speaker 3: you know, concerning I would probably look at like an
Speaker 3: NL only keeper early roughly out of one hundred maybe
Speaker 3: uh five five five to seven maybe uh and then
Speaker 3: you know, and only just a straight redraft. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's still got value even there, probably around this, you know,
Speaker 3: it depends on your situation obviously, but probably around the
Speaker 3: same five to seven, if you know, Because if you
Speaker 3: can get thirty innings of you know, a starter in September,
Speaker 3: it's worth it, and I know only it's worth it.
Speaker 3: But in a mixed league, I just don't see the
Speaker 3: value even really stashing him. I mean, you can, sure,
Speaker 3: I mean, if you have room on your iyl stash him,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't see much value for Early
Speaker 3: for this year at.
Speaker 1: Least, yeah, because he's gonna miss at least at least
Speaker 1: two more weeks, if not more. So it's it's really
Speaker 1: hard to spend a whole lot on him if you
Speaker 1: have the IL space. No, there's worse things you can
Speaker 1: do then pick him up and stash him away. But
Speaker 1: there's also the non zero chance that they just shut
Speaker 1: him down. Honestly, there's no reason for him to come
Speaker 1: back if he's not ready. Certainly get him, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing again. So it feels more comfortable getting ready for
Speaker 1: the offseason and coming in the next year. But there's
Speaker 1: no reason to push him at this point. So even
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, yeah, under ten dollars somewhere
Speaker 1: is probably about the right area you really need pitching,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe fifteen, but even that is just kind
Speaker 1: of waiting to see.
Speaker 2: When he's gonna come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about as Marilyn val does. He
Speaker 1: has been crazy great. He is the number one player Raider.
Speaker 1: Over the last thirty days, thirty seven games, he has
Speaker 1: fourteen home runs. He's sitting two ninety three, three eighty five,
Speaker 1: seven oh seven. I mean, those are absolutely insane numbers.
Speaker 1: If you change the minimum batted ball events to twenty five,
Speaker 1: because he's only been up for you know, a month,
Speaker 1: he is twentieth and average EXAs velocity fifteenth and hard
Speaker 1: hit the LDEs in barrel rate, he's eleventh in EV fifty.
Speaker 1: The most he's gone with most games he's gone without
Speaker 1: a home run is eight. However, the opposite side, he's
Speaker 1: only gone four games total that he hasn't struck out
Speaker 1: yety gray.
Speaker 3: You know, so I was looking at his sad cast
Speaker 3: page while you were speaking. And it's really quite fascinating
Speaker 3: to look at his sliders because like his sliders, meaning
Speaker 3: the color bars. Valdez is like, it's like red red
Speaker 3: red red red red blue. Ooh man, that's bad red
Speaker 3: red red red right red blue wow blue wow blue
Speaker 3: red right right right bro blue. Yeah, he's gotta he's
Speaker 3: got quite the profile. Man, He's basically he's doing an
Speaker 3: Adam done here. I I hope it continues. Everything in
Speaker 3: me is saying like it actually it could continue the
Speaker 3: rest of this year. I mean, we've seen bizarre like
Speaker 3: small sample size wise, like, but at some point, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's gonna the Williemo Pana of his strikeout right is
Speaker 3: going to catch up to him. Right, It's got it right.
Speaker 1: You would think, so, I mean, how hell could it not?
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, I mean I think the best case scenario
Speaker 3: is Adam done, and the worst case scenario is is, like,
Speaker 3: you know, any any of the guys who have like
Speaker 3: aristhtes A Kino that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of guys who
Speaker 1: come out of the gates really hot and then you know,
Speaker 1: the pictures figure out what it is that you need
Speaker 1: or what they need to throw you and it just
Speaker 1: falls off dramatically.
Speaker 3: But I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I really hope that he can keep it going. It
Speaker 1: is entertaining to watch. I mean, obviously, this pace is
Speaker 1: probably not maintainable unless you know he's the next John
Speaker 1: Call of State, and in which case that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: And I feel like a cheek out for everybody who
Speaker 1: grabbed him for a dollar and keep her in dynasty leagues,
Speaker 1: but unlikely. That being said, let's throw some names against
Speaker 1: the wall and see who'd rather take the chance on
Speaker 1: Gray Beldez or Christian Walker.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's tough, because I feel like Christian Walker
Speaker 3: is kind of cooled off in a shallow enough leg
Speaker 3: I probably I probably actually would go about that Az,
Speaker 3: because just go with the hot bat. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's it. I mean, it's not easy. I would say
Speaker 3: Valdez though, just because he's hot, So why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Walker's Walker's June in July certainly have not been strong.
Speaker 2: How about Max Munsey?
Speaker 3: Uh No, Max Mounsey has been pretty valuable. I'm staying
Speaker 3: with Max Mounsey even though Valdez has been burning hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that feels fair, And I guess the concernal
Speaker 1: months he is always just how so that's really the
Speaker 1: concern with him.
Speaker 2: If he's healthy, he's always been fairly productive.
Speaker 3: Well burn comedy, oh no, more comedy for sure. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: not even close.
Speaker 1: So we've we've found kind of a line. He's he's
Speaker 1: definitely on the lower end. But somebody pick up and
Speaker 1: definitely roster in the moment if he's available and just
Speaker 1: enjoy the ride. Yeah, somebody who is not gonna be
Speaker 1: on the ride the rest of this season, likely Gray
Speaker 1: is Shay Langlers. He was top five on the catcher
Speaker 1: on a Player Raider when he got Injure Jonaheim Brian
Speaker 1: Servan are taking over his spot and as catcher any
Speaker 1: interest in Heim as he should be actually getting it
Speaker 1: in the middle of the order for the eighties, which
Speaker 1: feels like a very weird statement.
Speaker 3: Uh, Jonaheim is not interesting at all outside of like
Speaker 3: when he's home in home games, and then even then
Speaker 3: you would it's kind of probably be at the like
Speaker 3: a daily league and you have no good catcher, so
Speaker 3: you're you're just you're just switching out your catcher whenever.
Speaker 3: So I would pick up Jonaheim when he was home,
Speaker 3: but only if I had a bad catcher. I mean
Speaker 3: it's like I would not really, I wouldn't really be interested.
Speaker 3: And Brian and Brian Servan actually I briefly looked at
Speaker 3: in our ale only league and then I was like, nah,
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. I mean, you know, a backup a's catcher
Speaker 3: who's terrible. I mean I do like that, Like when
Speaker 3: A when he's catching and a hitter strikes out, he's like,
Speaker 3: you've been serving.
Speaker 1: I really wish that was true, Gray, I really wish,
Speaker 1: really wish that was I don't mind him as a
Speaker 1: second catcher. And like a fifteen team, certainly an ale
Speaker 1: only he's own, but that's that's about where he is.
Speaker 1: And a twelve team, you know, if you're rotating them
Speaker 1: and they've got a home heavy schedule, that's fine. Like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, it's mostly mostly home games for him, so
Speaker 1: more of a daily league or a deeper league type
Speaker 1: of play. Let's get into the trade rumors, Gray, There's
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff that could be happening this time
Speaker 1: of year. Let's just let's just randomly consider what could
Speaker 1: happen and think about some of the fantasy possibilities. This
Speaker 1: is some of this is sometimes easy way to get
Speaker 1: ahead of the crowd and just kind of grab a
Speaker 1: guy who might be useful in the future for for
Speaker 1: very little. So let's talk about some of these. Everson
Speaker 1: Hancock is likely to move on, it seems Seattle has
Speaker 1: mentioned that he's available.
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo possibly on the move as well.
Speaker 1: From there, there's a number of teams that could be
Speaker 1: landing spots for him, Braves, Cubs, Astro's, Phillies, Brewers, Rays, Yankees.
Speaker 1: I would have said the Red Sox, but you know,
Speaker 1: if they needed an arm you would have thought they
Speaker 1: to hang on to early. So I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here in regards to kind of
Speaker 1: the situation there, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have so I think Hancock and or anyone
Speaker 3: the Mariners trade Hancock specifically, I don't. I think probably
Speaker 3: gonna lose value, like wherever they go, because, uh, Seattle's
Speaker 3: a really good part to pitch in. So it's probably
Speaker 3: gonna be a negative for Hancock. Even if he goes
Speaker 3: to a better team like say the Braves or the
Speaker 3: Phillies or something like, it's still it's it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a negative because of the part change. But with that said,
Speaker 3: and it really does sound like Hancock is gonna be
Speaker 3: moving because like which we call the Mariners really, I
Speaker 3: mean they need him that they need him out to
Speaker 3: bring up Kate Anderson. And I think I think that's
Speaker 3: really like that's the real point of like you know,
Speaker 3: discussing the Hancock trade, because like if Kate Anderson, like
Speaker 3: if Hancock moves and Kate Anderson's brought up, Anderson's like
Speaker 3: a difference maker, So I would be like be all
Speaker 3: over like stashing Kate Anderson right now. Like that's probably
Speaker 3: probably like the number one stash because like the only
Speaker 3: reason the Mariners, like the Mariners aren't like you know there,
Speaker 3: it's like why are the Mariners moving, Like why are
Speaker 3: they even talking about moving Hancock? Like it doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense because like the Mariners are in the thicke of things.
Speaker 3: But when you think about it, it's like they want
Speaker 3: to move them because they want to bring up Kate Anderson.
Speaker 3: That's the only reason to move Emerson Hancock. Because Hancock's
Speaker 3: been fine, He's been good actually, so you're only moving
Speaker 3: him for one reason, and that reason is the guy
Speaker 3: you should be stashing. So I think you know, Hancock's
Speaker 3: probably gonna lose a little bit of value, but Kate
Speaker 3: Anderson should be stashed right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why Lewis Gesteo is also in that
Speaker 1: mix because right now they're going with the six man rotation,
Speaker 1: and you know, those two would be the oddment out
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it. Bryce Smeller, Brian Who, Philbert Kirby,
Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere, so it would be be those
Speaker 1: two that are kind of the oddment out. And as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Ken Anderson has been great, you know, in
Speaker 1: the minors, and he is, you know, if not the
Speaker 1: number one pitching prospect in the miners, he's among the
Speaker 1: top guys.
Speaker 2: He has seventy seven innings in the minors. He is
Speaker 2: a one two seventy or eight six four whip and
Speaker 2: this is a double A. He is a forty one.
Speaker 1: Point seven percent strikeout rate and a three point six
Speaker 1: percent walk rate. Gray he did throw one hundred and
Speaker 1: nineteen innings at LSU last year, so he could potentially
Speaker 1: get to you know, one thirty one forty pretty pretty realistically.
Speaker 1: And you know, given that there's ten to thirteen starts
Speaker 1: five innings each time, but I mean it does seem realistic.
Speaker 1: He can actually pitch, come up, pitch and potentially and
Speaker 1: finished the season out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, completely, Like I I feel like like his
Speaker 3: numbers are a ludicross, bro, They're ludicras. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: just so crazy that you're like, if this guy, I mean,
Speaker 3: and in Seattle, which is a good park to pitch in,
Speaker 3: you know, for home starts, you give him ten ten
Speaker 3: starts of you know, you give him say fifty innings
Speaker 3: start or even forty forty to fifty innings starting next
Speaker 3: Monday in the majors, Like I yeah, I mean, it
Speaker 3: really could be, like we could be talking about like
Speaker 3: a difference maker in every league, even the shallowest of
Speaker 3: mixed leagues. I could see Kate Anderson making a difference.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's gonna be He's gonna basically be like
Speaker 3: the probably no matter what happens with like every other
Speaker 3: trade that goes on, Like you know, Tarik's Scoobale getting
Speaker 3: traded from the Tigers, say like nothing's coming up, nothing's
Speaker 3: replacing Scooball. That's gonna be like oh wow, okay, like
Speaker 3: let me grab Drew Anderson. It's like it's not gonna matter.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Kate Anderson. Man Kate Anderson, not Drew Anderson.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope we get to see him this year,
Speaker 1: whether that be via trade or you know, if they
Speaker 1: just decide they're gonna bring him up and let him throw,
Speaker 1: then then so be it. It'd be great to see
Speaker 1: him come up. Gray. In regards to Emerson Hancock, I
Speaker 1: would I would be concerned if he does move. His
Speaker 1: issue has always been the home run ball, and if
Speaker 1: he moves outside of Seattle, I just don't know if
Speaker 1: he can maintain kind of the better, better home run
Speaker 1: numbers that he's had this year that that feels like
Speaker 1: a bad predicament for him to fall into. I say
Speaker 1: this because the Cubs are pretty much the front runner
Speaker 1: right now. It seems like to get him and that
Speaker 1: is not That's not really who I want the Cubs
Speaker 1: be going to get, But it's not for me to say.
Speaker 1: Plenty of other big names talk about in the trade
Speaker 1: Verver Mill Gray, you mentioned trade Schoob Ball, Framber Valdez
Speaker 1: could also be moved from that spot. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot to take from
Speaker 1: Detroit there. Would you be concerned about either of them
Speaker 1: moving from Detroit. It is a good part for pitching.
Speaker 3: I would be concerned if you were still starting Framber Valdez,
Speaker 3: if you were, if you were not, if you were
Speaker 3: possibly in a coma. I mean, I guess in a
Speaker 3: fifteen team mixed league, you have to do what you
Speaker 3: have to do. But I've moved on from Framber, and
Speaker 3: like you know, I dropped them in our RCL league
Speaker 3: like two months ago. Not that that helped my team,
Speaker 3: but I did drop them like two months ago. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's he's been awful. So Framber is not getting better.
Speaker 3: If they trade him, I don't even know what they're
Speaker 3: gonna get. I mean, Frambers, like Frambers legitimately hit a
Speaker 3: wall this year and it's not good. Like his numbers,
Speaker 3: like his underlying numbers look like like he fell off
Speaker 3: a cliff basically, and then Scooble. He's gonna be good
Speaker 3: wherever he goes. So I'm not really concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. C J. Abrams also be on the moves,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about him with the Fed.
Speaker 2: Fellow shortstop Zach Neto.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It feels like both of those are a big payment.
Speaker 2: But you know, somebody might make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wonder, I wonder what the uh because
Speaker 3: the Angels seem like an especially dumb franchise. So I
Speaker 3: wonder if I wonder what they'll actually get for a Neto,
Speaker 3: if they can get anything for him. But I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really like. Neither of them strike me as
Speaker 3: like guys that are gonna take a hit in vat
Speaker 3: you If anything, it might value might get better for
Speaker 3: both of them, Like if Abrams follows mead over to Boston,
Speaker 3: abrams value goes up, or if Nido goes to like
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, the Yankees or something, his
Speaker 3: value goes up, like you know. I think both probably
Speaker 3: are going to be a positive in value if they
Speaker 3: get traded. I doubt either of them will be negatives
Speaker 3: if they get traded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. The best closer in baseball could
Speaker 1: get traded again in Mason Miller. I mean that he's
Speaker 1: just gonna be awesome wherever he goes. There's nothing really
Speaker 1: to discuss there. Hunter Goodman could get moved, Mickey Moniac
Speaker 1: Jack McCarthy's teammates, they could also be on the move.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's always got to be concerned on anybody
Speaker 2: moving Colorado.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, yeah, no, totally. You know, the Rockies are
Speaker 3: you know, Rockies and Angels are in their own little
Speaker 3: basket of dumb and like I really feel like like
Speaker 3: the Rockies, I don't know. I mean, maybe they trade guys,
Speaker 3: but I always feel I feel like they just go
Speaker 3: down with the ship and then like end up instead
Speaker 3: they'll end up giving like Hunter Goodman, like a twelve
Speaker 3: year contract for like four hundred million, and he'll be like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm done playing. I just retired.
Speaker 6: They'll just yeah, yeah, it'll just be like, oh, that's
Speaker 6: the end of that's the end of my playing career,
Speaker 6: I guess. And you know with Moniac and McCarthy, like
Speaker 6: also like what I don't understand, Like I guess they
Speaker 6: don't want to maybe like they don't want to resign
Speaker 6: these guys because you know, like one year deals and
Speaker 6: free agencies and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a concern. I don't think the Rockies have
Speaker 3: concerns though. I don't think they're smart enough to have
Speaker 3: these concerns. So I mean maybe though maybe these are
Speaker 3: concerns of why they want to trade them before like
Speaker 3: they go they sign big deals next year, but like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I just I find it
Speaker 3: hard to believe the Rockies are gonna be smart enough
Speaker 3: to trade guys like it was like, you know, the
Speaker 3: Angels not trading Otani like his last year's contract, Like
Speaker 3: why why would you not do that? But they didn't.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I don't know. Maybe the Rockies
Speaker 3: do trade them obviously. I mean, they're all gonna take
Speaker 3: hits except for Hunter Goodman. Moniac and McCarthy will take
Speaker 3: huge hits. Goodman he won't take a hit because he
Speaker 3: actually hits pretty well on the road, So I think
Speaker 3: Goodman will be fine, but Moniac and McCarthy will get
Speaker 3: a little bit of hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would still say Goodman's gonna take
Speaker 1: a hit. Just even if he hits fine on the road,
Speaker 1: He's still not gonna be in Cores to hit. You know.
Speaker 1: His average actually is better on the road this year,
Speaker 1: So there's there's that.
Speaker 2: But just moving away from Cours has other effects.
Speaker 1: And just the way that you see the ball, the
Speaker 1: way that things happen, So I would assume everybody would
Speaker 1: take a hit there. But yes, he would be least
Speaker 1: concerned about Hunter Goodman. Sandy al Contra long term, long
Speaker 1: time Miami Marlin could be on the move from there potentially, Gray,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on him leaving Miami.
Speaker 3: It's like I feel like every year we talk about
Speaker 3: Sandy al Kintara possibly moving and the Marlins never trade him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they should trade him. He's another guy like like, uh,
Speaker 3: similar to Framber actually, like al Kantara's underlying numbers are
Speaker 3: pretty ugly, Like Sandy al Kintara is not the guy
Speaker 3: he was four years ago. Uh three, four years ago.
Speaker 3: He's not that guy anymore. Like his numbers look bad,
Speaker 3: Like Sandy al Kintara's numbers look like like a number
Speaker 3: five to six in a fifteen team mix league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's still gonna give you innings.
Speaker 1: I could definitely see somebody grabbing him, just if you
Speaker 1: have a young pitching staff, which I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about the Rays at this point.
Speaker 2: You have a young.
Speaker 1: Pitching staff that you're not sure about the innings. You know,
Speaker 1: Sandey o Contra feels like a really good addition there.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's the guy you bring
Speaker 1: in because you're making a World series running you need
Speaker 1: an ace. But he could definitely be a three to
Speaker 1: four for somebody. I mean, I would say the four
Speaker 1: year A the one two with that feels about right
Speaker 1: for him. Like I wouldn't necessarily say he's been overly
Speaker 1: lucky or unlucky this year. There are some peripherals that
Speaker 1: do not look great, but I think some of that's
Speaker 1: just in the bad you know, starts that he's had
Speaker 1: that have blewing him to a four year A. So
Speaker 1: maybe he's like a four to two four, three, but
Speaker 1: that's still fine as a three to four if he's
Speaker 1: going to give you innings. Like you said, the New
Speaker 1: Orleans and are always talked about as sal and and
Speaker 1: somehow they just don't move the guys we assume they do.
Speaker 1: Foster Griffin is also a guy that's been been thrown
Speaker 1: around in the rumors the Nationals clearly looking to potentially
Speaker 1: make some moves. You know, it feels like a guy
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's the right time for him the move.
Speaker 1: He's a thirty year old, thirty one year old former
Speaker 1: Japanese pitcher after failing in the US. So what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts of Foster.
Speaker 3: I like the idea of a guy becoming a former
Speaker 3: Japanese person Picture, you know, former former yeah picture who
Speaker 3: is formerly in the Japan League. No, I understand what
Speaker 3: you mean.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it happens in in soccer grade and FIFA.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. People change the nationalities and uh,
Speaker 1: you'll play for a different team the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, formerly formerly of the Republic of Congo. Gray now
Speaker 3: playing for Britain. Now playing for Britain. There's Gray Olbray.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Foster Griffin. I actually I wonder if the Nationals are
Speaker 3: kicking themselves that they didn't sign him for like even
Speaker 3: a two year deal, because he looks really good. If
Speaker 3: I were a team, I would be going after Foster Griffin,
Speaker 3: like more so than a couple of the guys we mentioned,
Speaker 3: more so than Sandy or Framberg, that's for sure. Foster
Speaker 3: Griffin looks solid. He looks like he could really like.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would be concerned about him in some
Speaker 3: parks because he doesn't keep the ball down necessarily, So
Speaker 3: I mean he does look like he's being a little
Speaker 3: bit lucky, Like it's not all beautiful, but I mean
Speaker 3: it looks better than a lot of the guys we
Speaker 3: talked about. So I think Foster Griffin. It'll depend where
Speaker 3: he goes, but I yeah, I like Foster Griffin a
Speaker 3: decent amount.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Gray. Let's talk about some
Speaker 1: some teams you could be selling. The Mets obviously gonna
Speaker 1: be selling Freddy praulta Seamanaya definitely available. They would love
Speaker 1: for somebody to take on lou Bob, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna take take that terrible contract
Speaker 1: on uh And from what it sounds like, lind Door's
Speaker 1: not moved. So the one guy who could be interesting
Speaker 1: probably not.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on.
Speaker 1: On those three? Per Alta and Aya, loo Bob. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've all kind of been fluctuatingly bad and okay at
Speaker 1: different times, except for loop Bob. He's just been bad.
Speaker 3: Loo Bob's been lou Bob has been bad for like, uh,
Speaker 3: like what like seven years out of like out of
Speaker 3: like nine or maybe like five out of seven, Like
Speaker 3: he's he's been more bad than good a lot of
Speaker 3: his career. The fact that he still gets a pass
Speaker 3: from like fantasy people who still are like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I'll try lou Bob in the eighth round, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't work for it. I
Speaker 3: mean it could like it happens every five years. He's good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, man. They like Freddy Parolta. I was
Speaker 3: saying on ras Ball yesterday or whenever I was saying it. Uh,
Speaker 3: Freddy Parolta actually is a good case example for why
Speaker 3: like the Mets should fire their pitching coach because like,
Speaker 3: Paralta isn't this bad, but they cannot fix him at all.
Speaker 3: So actually I could see Paralta getting better if he
Speaker 3: goes to like you know, maybe go back to Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: You'll be like, oh, thank God. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it'll depend on where some of these guys go. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I'm the Mets' I'm sending everyone away like goodbye,
Speaker 3: I would even I'd even get rid of Lindor honestly,
Speaker 3: like it's you know, it's like rebuild time, man, like
Speaker 3: figure out rebuild around Sodo, like figure out something.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So no Binge, they stay, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I guess Baby stays because nobody's gonna take him,
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna take Bashett, but everybody else can go.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Toronto would take Michelle if he picked
Speaker 1: up some contract. I don't know, but let's talk about Toronto,
Speaker 1: because they're not buying either.
Speaker 2: They're they're selling everybody who's old.
Speaker 1: Everybody who is over twenty eight, twenty nine years old
Speaker 1: can go for them. Gospin, Beaver, Sureser, They're they're all
Speaker 1: on the block. Springer bar Show, he's with Sanchez if
Speaker 1: anybody wants him. Jeff Hoffman if anybody wants him. Any
Speaker 1: thoughts on these guys, Greg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean, if I'm the Jays, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely I'm absolutely selling a bunch of those guys. I
Speaker 3: think Gossman is underlying. Numbers aren't bad, so I think
Speaker 3: Gossman actually could be better just in general, So I
Speaker 3: think he could be a decent like acquisition potentially. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of depends on where these guys go.
Speaker 3: For the most part, I would trade, I would be
Speaker 3: selling if I was the Jays, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Let's talk about some of the reds Gray.
Speaker 1: They continually disappoint us and this season is no different.
Speaker 1: But Brady Singer, he's gotten it together. He can definitely
Speaker 1: be on the move. Anio Saras is sixty four years old.
Speaker 1: He could definitely be traded Tyler Stevenson, Nate Low, Amelio
Speaker 1: Pagot if anybody would be willing to take another shot
Speaker 1: at him, but they missed their window last year trade him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no completely, I yeah, I mean the Reds are
Speaker 3: the Reds are only good in our minds in March.
Speaker 2: Look, Ellie, he now free prospect that we liked.
Speaker 3: Reds every March. They're good. So yeah, they're I mean
Speaker 3: they should be selling. I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 3: what's going. Yeah, like Yohennio Suarez. I still kind of
Speaker 3: believe he could get hot at some point, and he
Speaker 3: can hit a home run in any stadium, so you know,
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of him getting hot. It doesn't
Speaker 3: really matter whether he's in Cincy or if he's in
Speaker 3: New York playing for the Yankees, or if he's in
Speaker 3: like you know, Seattle, I mean, like he can home
Speaker 3: or anywhere. But yeah, I would be training them though
Speaker 3: if I wear the Reds for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas. You know they are in first place, so
Speaker 1: doubtful they're gonna sell. But there were some forry secret
Speaker 1: rumors I saw, and he duryas building well, and really
Speaker 1: this is just a roundabout way for us to talk
Speaker 1: about Sebastian we gonna see him.
Speaker 3: Bring yeah, you know, I don't think so. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe in September.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'd be kind of shocked if they if they
Speaker 7: bring them up, because like, like it's one thing to
Speaker 7: bring up Kate Anderson because there's a legitimate reason there.
Speaker 3: To fill a spot. I feel like if the Rangers
Speaker 3: are bringing up Walcott, it's like, why, like just keep
Speaker 3: them till next beginning to start them next season? You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's hard to say. I'm more
Speaker 3: jazz for Kate Anderson though than I am Walcott. I mean,
Speaker 3: Walcott could be good though. If he gets called up,
Speaker 3: I would definitely pick him up, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: But I just feel a little more doubtful that he's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's coming back from the UCL injury.
Speaker 1: So even though he's you know, he's not a picture,
Speaker 1: it's not like the end of the world.
Speaker 2: There's probably some call being taken with him.
Speaker 1: That being said, in ten games back this year, he's
Speaker 1: hitting three eighty five.
Speaker 2: With two runs and three stolen bases.
Speaker 1: So I could I could actually see the Rangers potentially
Speaker 1: moving on from Corey Seeger if somebody gave him the
Speaker 1: right offer them probably being the Dodgers, that just feels
Speaker 1: like the right thing. But you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: the Dodgers nestally hurting to get Cory Seger back in
Speaker 1: their lineup either then you got him in bets to
Speaker 1: really disappoint you consistently at the middle infield positions.
Speaker 3: So maybe not. And also I will say I'm so
Speaker 3: pretty lukewarm on whatever the Rangers are doing with prospects
Speaker 3: because like, why Langford and Evan Carter they couldn't have
Speaker 3: came up with more hype, And I gotta be honest,
Speaker 3: I'm underwhelmed. I think it's a lot. It has a
Speaker 3: lot to do with Arlington too, Like it's not it's
Speaker 3: not necessarily all on Langford and Carter's shoulders, Like Carter
Speaker 3: probably a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, Langford could, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like Langford could get traded to the Yankees
Speaker 3: tomorrow and be a superstar. Like I I I think
Speaker 3: it really like Arlington sucks the life out of bats,
Speaker 3: Like it's just not a good place to hit as
Speaker 3: a as a hitter.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. And we kind of just need Langford
Speaker 1: to stay healthy a little bit, and honestly, getting away
Speaker 1: from Turf might help him if that could ever happen,
Speaker 1: because you know, Turf is known to be terrible on
Speaker 1: long legs, so everything he's had could be a little
Speaker 1: bit related to that. We always talk about the Pirates selling.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've talked about Mitch Keller and Brian
Speaker 1: Reynolds moving on from there for the last five years.
Speaker 2: And it hasn't happened. Do you think this is the year? Uh?
Speaker 3: I wish. I wish the Pirates would be buyers, to
Speaker 3: be honest, I yeah, but yeah, I mean they might
Speaker 3: sell those guys, It's possible, I don't think so. I
Speaker 3: feel like they're just gonna They're gonna write it out,
Speaker 3: is my guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That feels like the Pirates way for any kind
Speaker 1: of middle season. They're just gonna They're just gonna sit
Speaker 1: still with whatever they've gotten and go with that.
Speaker 2: The A's, you know, even if they.
Speaker 1: Wanted to try and compete, they don't have They don't
Speaker 1: have the players. They're all injured now. Jeffrey Springs, Hogan
Speaker 1: Harris feel like the most obvious ones there. You know,
Speaker 1: I think if jeff Springs went to a spacious park.
Speaker 1: He could be interesting. He's always been pretty solid outside
Speaker 1: of Bing Bong, so I really feel like he could
Speaker 1: be Okay, Hogan Harris is.
Speaker 2: Gonna be a setup guy or a middle reliever, so
Speaker 2: probably not a.
Speaker 1: Whole lot there, But maybe we get a glimpse of
Speaker 1: Leo Devrees before the season's outbreak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could see that potentially, maybe like
Speaker 3: I don't see it happening immediately after the deadline, but
Speaker 3: maybe like a couple of weeks after, like end of August,
Speaker 3: beginning of September. Yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And well I don't expect Jacob Wilson to move,
Speaker 1: so probably moving to third base would be my guess.
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of time there. But he
Speaker 1: could also move the second I mean the second base
Speaker 1: is the easiest the position to play and pretty much
Speaker 1: just the opposite side of shortstops, so should be an
Speaker 1: easy transition either side.
Speaker 2: The Padres.
Speaker 1: They roster three catchers, so would be surprisedy one of
Speaker 1: them move, especially with Ethan Sallas in the minors.
Speaker 2: Do you think we see Sallas or just two blocked.
Speaker 3: At the Carol, I'm actually I'm gonna I'm gonna search
Speaker 3: because I feel like the Padres don't have anyone in
Speaker 3: their minor league system. Do they have a Triple A team.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. The Padres do have minor leaguers.
Speaker 3: I really I thought they traded them all away, not
Speaker 3: a single one of Triple A though.
Speaker 2: They're just running out a Padras.
Speaker 3: The worst thing that Padres can do right now is
Speaker 3: win like the next couple of days and Preller to
Speaker 3: be like, let's get rid of Sallas and bring in
Speaker 3: Hunter Goodman, Like, what are you doing? Man? Chill out? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think we see Sallas.
Speaker 2: Yeah I would love to, but yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: so either.
Speaker 1: Saint Louis they have a real young roster, no, no
Speaker 1: real obvious trade candidates. But we see Josh Obias this year.
Speaker 1: He has absolutely been destroying Baseball's Yes.
Speaker 3: It's kind of ridiculous. I really hope we don't go
Speaker 3: through like next March. It's like Bias is gonna break camp.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be with the Cardinals and then and then
Speaker 3: I roster him for three years while he struggles, and
Speaker 3: then he has the Jordan Walker breakout in twenty what's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Why the Cardinals keep doing this to me?
Speaker 1: Can we d him Jordan Walker and have him bring
Speaker 1: Bias to you know, his drive line training instead of
Speaker 1: going with the Cardinals training.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, instead of Joshua Bias getting in the
Speaker 3: cage and talking with large new bar please.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think we see Bias this year, but I
Speaker 3: do think he's breaking camp with the team next year
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be fantastic in three years. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the tools are so loud.
Speaker 2: He absolutely destroys baseball Gray.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has thirty one home runs this year
Speaker 1: in ninety games at Triple A. Last year across the
Speaker 1: Miners Gray, in one hundred and seventeen games, he stole
Speaker 1: fifty four bases.
Speaker 2: Like, the tools are just ridiculously loud.
Speaker 1: On Bias. He does have a thirty per strike out
Speaker 1: right right now Triple A. But like he is, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just messing around. He can't even really be playing
Speaker 1: that hard. He's just like guys, But when am I
Speaker 1: getting in the call like this is this is ridiculous,
Speaker 1: Like you're playing Blaze Jordan over me right now? And
Speaker 1: Nathan Church like come on, let's let's figure this out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally. Yeah, I think they're uh, I think
Speaker 3: they're going to start the clock next April. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hope we see him this year because
Speaker 2: I have him in the NL only.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know that we are. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about somebody else that could be traded for are traded
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals, and that's going to start our saging
Speaker 1: off the O'Brien. Would they move him? Great? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, why not. They're they're not in the window
Speaker 1: of competing. He's a thirty year old closer.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, totally no, I agree, Yeah no,
Speaker 3: why wouldn't they move home?
Speaker 2: But who's up next? That's what we need to know.
Speaker 3: I would say I'd probably go Striano next. I really
Speaker 3: feel like closers could, like the closers on the move
Speaker 3: really feels like it opens up the most opportunity at
Speaker 3: the trade deadline because like, if you need saves now
Speaker 3: is like the best, Like, as you're listening to this,
Speaker 3: stop listing, pause, pause this podcast for a second, they
Speaker 3: go pick up any handcuff you can think of, because
Speaker 3: right now, like there's gonna be closers who are traded
Speaker 3: and setup men are gonna move in and like take
Speaker 3: the jobs and possibly do well for the next like
Speaker 3: two months. Like, just because Soriano is not the closer
Speaker 3: right now does not mean he can't get like, you know,
Speaker 3: seven to eight saves, seven to ten saves like in
Speaker 3: the next two months and be you know, decent. So yeah,
Speaker 3: closers moving opens up a lot of opportunities. Whereas like
Speaker 3: you know, like whereas like the guys we were talking, like,
Speaker 3: you know, Kevin Gassman for instance, him moving, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: who's who's is name? Pearson? Still around? What's going? Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I would say definitely, uh, Soriano would probably be
Speaker 3: my my grab.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, anybody who knows from Baltimore, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what prospect we're going to ruin next? Let's see who's.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, so okay, So, speaking of the Baltimore Orioles,
Speaker 3: is Jackson Holiday a NEAPO baby?
Speaker 2: The entire Holiday family just just be great?
Speaker 3: Like what's going on? Man? Come on, man, I'm thick
Speaker 3: of this. I'm sick of being fooled. Come on, seriously,
Speaker 3: is Jackson Holiday a NEPO baby? Sound off in the comments? Okay?
Speaker 2: In fairness, great.
Speaker 1: It could again just be that the Orioles have no
Speaker 1: clue how to develop any kind of prospect I mean, pitching,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They just they can't develop prospects. It's it's awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, And you know, honestly, I thought that was
Speaker 3: for a moment there, I thought that was absolutely the case. Well,
Speaker 3: I think that is the case. But I also think,
Speaker 3: like Kyle Stowers, like, for for a moment there last year,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh, the Oreos are really bad.
Speaker 3: Is really good. But now that's Towers is bad again.
Speaker 3: It's got less legs that theory. But I do think
Speaker 3: the I think the Oreoles they see those I could
Speaker 3: say this like the Oreos are either bad at developing,
Speaker 3: which is which is totally possible, or maybe they're just
Speaker 3: bad at scouting and they're they're drafting guys who actually
Speaker 3: aren't that good. But you know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 3: hard for me to say because I'm not really a
Speaker 3: prospect guy. But the Orea is definitely their history of
Speaker 3: developing prospects is not so good. It's a little bad.
Speaker 1: It's it's not good great at all. And I would
Speaker 1: say from a scouting perspective, like if anything. Maybe they
Speaker 1: listen to the crowd too much because everybody like universally
Speaker 1: agrees the guys that they have had are going to
Speaker 1: be phenomenal across the board, Like better understand, you know,
Speaker 1: we still think he is, but we've we've all thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna be great. Jackson Holliday, Dylan Beaver's, Kobe Mayo.
Speaker 1: I mean we can go back to like the Rushman
Speaker 1: like there's like there are guys who have universe sleep
Speaker 1: in the green An.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally, and I'm not that So I'm not
Speaker 3: that in the know when it comes to prospects. But
Speaker 3: it's also like is that the chicken or the egg,
Speaker 3: because it's like every scout is saying like, oh, Adalie
Speaker 3: Rushman's like he's the next Yogi Bearer, Like okay, we're
Speaker 3: a really old reference, but okay. And then he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, like a little bit better than Cabert Ruiz,
Speaker 3: Like okay, I mean he's fine, He's okay.
Speaker 1: Again, he's like, well, Yogi bearro would be if he
Speaker 1: got dropped into the two thousands without knowing.
Speaker 3: If he got dropped on his head. So it's basically no,
Speaker 3: it's Adelaie Rushman is like fine for what he is,
Speaker 3: but I mean the way they were talking when he
Speaker 3: was a prospect. But that's like I go back to
Speaker 3: like the chicken or the egg, like where scouts saying
Speaker 3: this and the Oreoles are like, well, the scouts are
Speaker 3: saying it. So I mean, it wasn't like they did
Speaker 3: stuff that was completely like and difficult to like what
Speaker 3: the scouts were saying, like they were legitimately following what
Speaker 3: everyone like, you know. But then it's like, but then
Speaker 3: is it just the scouts are like looking at what
Speaker 3: teams are looking at for the number one pick, and
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, yeah, that's you know. Then then the
Speaker 3: prospect writers are like, well they must know something. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't think anything of Adelai Rushman,
Speaker 3: but apparently the Oreos deal, I don't know something. Something
Speaker 3: is definitely disconnected with the Oreos drafting and the Oreos
Speaker 3: development and the Orio's actual production. Something's not right for sure.
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe the key is actually that the prospects
Speaker 1: being developed really well in the minors and then the
Speaker 1: major leagues are screwing up. So maybe we just need
Speaker 1: to promote like everybody up in an organization for the
Speaker 1: oils and inspire everybody at the major league level because
Speaker 1: all these guys perform in the miners, they're all great
Speaker 1: through the miners, and they get to the O's and
Speaker 1: the O's like, forget everything those idiots taught you.
Speaker 2: We're gonna reteach you everything.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, no, they're you're you could be totally right.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like the last stop is the problem. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible. Like I say this because for a
Speaker 1: long time, the Yankees prospects were always like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: they're you know, they've got three top name prospects. They
Speaker 1: were producing in the miners and they weren't producing in
Speaker 1: the majors and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, how did they still have three of the prospects?
Speaker 3: Sorry, I have to stop you there. Miguel Andrew Hart
Speaker 3: could still turn it. I will not stay from Miguel
Speaker 3: and Hart slander in this house.
Speaker 1: But it's just like, at least there's minor league production
Speaker 1: for the O's. Uh so, well, eventually maybe they'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. Let's keep going great, we'll otherwise we will
Speaker 1: talk about it's just nonsensically for the next thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: At least the Mets.
Speaker 1: Devid Williams and Luke Weaver could be moved obviously, if
Speaker 1: if dev Williams moves, it's Luke Weaver. But if both
Speaker 1: of them get moved, who is the next guy upgrade?
Speaker 3: I'd probably go Brooks Brooks.
Speaker 1: Rarely, Yeah, I mean I think that is. And if
Speaker 1: Luke Weaver for whatever reason isn't owned in your league
Speaker 1: because it's you know, a shallow league, or people are
Speaker 1: paying attention to how good he's been, I would just
Speaker 1: go grab Luke Weaver because there's a definite possibility he's
Speaker 1: gonna fall into they close the role if he's not.
Speaker 2: Traded as well, he wouldn't be is traded. He could
Speaker 2: be a closer because he's been phenomenal this season.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Over in Washington, everybody is on the block, which means
Speaker 1: our favorite Clayton Beeter could be moved or really anybody
Speaker 1: in that bullpen.
Speaker 2: Gray, But who do you think is gonna get saved?
Speaker 1: Resky out for the Nationals because even that question may
Speaker 1: not be Clayton Beater if he stays with the Nationals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. So like some of these teams, like
Speaker 3: if they become like you know, in the final two
Speaker 3: months if they go from like, you know, winning, you know,
Speaker 3: in the final two months, say a team is gonna
Speaker 3: win you know, maybe ten fifteen games, and you know,
Speaker 3: if they become a five win team, it's like, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, the national will probably win more
Speaker 3: than five games the rest of the way, but at
Speaker 3: a certain point you also have to wonder if it's
Speaker 3: worth it. So if you're really I guess, if you're
Speaker 3: really struggling, yeah, I mean, maybe Eddie En maybe I
Speaker 3: don't know, Riley Cornholio, maybe Tom Cosgrove. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: it's a mess really in the Nationals bullpen, like a
Speaker 3: few bullpens, like I don't even really like Clayton, but
Speaker 3: in all a few bullpens, like you know, the Nationals
Speaker 3: for one, and like you know, the Angels and the
Speaker 3: Rockies or actually the Rockies bullpen's not that bad, but
Speaker 3: the Angels bullpen, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's pretty horrendous.
Speaker 3: Yates back mean, like it's like if those guys get moved,
Speaker 3: do I really want to mess with the guy behind them? Eh?
Speaker 3: You know, like some of these are like the Cardinals
Speaker 3: have you know, Soriano and Raley and the Mets like
Speaker 3: those that those are decent pickups. But some of these
Speaker 3: you have the way whether or not you really want
Speaker 3: to get bothered with them. And the Nationals is one
Speaker 3: of those teams where I don't even think i'd bother
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, And I didn't even put the
Speaker 1: angels on here because there's there's nobody you want currently,
Speaker 1: So why would there be somebody? If they trade anybody?
Speaker 1: Over in Pittsburgh, Gregory Soto could be moved.
Speaker 3: I mean I really.
Speaker 1: Feel like that just means it's Nason Montgomery's job then, right, Yeah, No, agree,
Speaker 1: Over in Baltimore, they could trade everybody kid, trade Twelve's Cano.
Speaker 1: Let's just assume they all moved Gray. Is there anybody
Speaker 1: else that you want there?
Speaker 3: Uh No, then then it's probably I mean I would
Speaker 3: say probably Rico Garcia because he was getting saves earlier
Speaker 3: in the year. But yeah, then it then it might
Speaker 3: become a situation where it's not even worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's already been a really difficult situation to kind
Speaker 1: of handle, so then trading those guys would just make
Speaker 1: it even even more so. San Francisco, anyone could be
Speaker 1: available there, Killian brew Baker, j Eric Miller kind of
Speaker 1: are the three that are sitting at the top of
Speaker 1: the pecking order any any I mean, let's just assume
Speaker 1: none of them are moved. Gray, who do you like
Speaker 1: get that's Bullpen?
Speaker 3: No one, Yeah, I want to mess with the It's
Speaker 3: just I mean, the best guy I think so far
Speaker 3: has been Eric Miller, and he's been worthwhile as a reliever,
Speaker 3: but he only has two saves on the year, so
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, who cares.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Eric Miller's been been really good. It just
Speaker 1: without any saves, without any wins, it gets really hard
Speaker 1: on rostering relievers. Royal's weak copy paste here right, Like
Speaker 1: nobody like even there's not even an Eric Miller in there.
Speaker 1: Like there's not a gym where you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: person's been good. They're bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there, they've been bad. I actually I think
Speaker 3: I I roster Alex Lying because he seems like he's
Speaker 3: the favored for saves, but he's been really bad. He's
Speaker 3: been very he's been very terrible.
Speaker 1: I agree he's the favorite for saves, but he has
Speaker 1: been he's been bad. The Cups they could actually be
Speaker 1: in the closer market. Jacob Web, Trent Thornton. We've discussed him,
Speaker 1: I think the last like three months running. But if
Speaker 1: you have a leading here before they make a trade
Speaker 1: bread closer.
Speaker 3: I would say Web. If they don't make a trade.
Speaker 3: But I actually just dropped Web in a twelve team
Speaker 3: mixed league because I well, I need I needed a starter,
Speaker 3: So it didn't really like that was my personal situation.
Speaker 3: But like Jacob Webb is is fine, and he would
Speaker 3: be the guy I would roster for right now. But
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if they don't bring in someone
Speaker 3: or you know, like Devin Williams is or Luke Weavers
Speaker 3: right there for the Cobs, Like why why would you
Speaker 3: go into the final stretch without a legitimate closer, right?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I feel like I feel
Speaker 3: like the Cubs are going to get a They're going
Speaker 3: to bring in someone one bone of bonus round the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: They get Edwin Diaz back, so that probably mutes any
Speaker 3: uh Tanner Scott saves value. So that's something to keep thinking.
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, the Dodgers always bring in someone from somewhere,
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't be shocked to see the Dodgers or
Speaker 3: you know, they have like Clayton Beader or Devin Williams
Speaker 3: pitching the seventh inning as something next week, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even like you know, they like a
Speaker 1: roles could get moved potentially, that wouldn't even surprise me
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers, like, you know, we're just gonna.
Speaker 3: Go that's something. I yeah, I've been playing around with
Speaker 3: that because I got some pushback on the rolled as
Speaker 3: Chapman getting traded away, and I agree with you, like
Speaker 3: it wouldn't shock like why would Breslo not trade away
Speaker 3: Chapman just go to Whitlock as the closer and you
Speaker 3: could bring if you could bring in someone like or
Speaker 3: all this Chatman's not like completely replaceable, right, Like it
Speaker 3: feels like that feels more of a no brainer than
Speaker 3: Connolly early for Curtis Mead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean if we're just if we're just
Speaker 1: being honest about the Red Sox, they're not.
Speaker 2: They're not a World Series roster currently, So I.
Speaker 3: Don't see how anyone thinks they are, Like really like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a hater my whole life,
Speaker 3: but you look at their team and you're like.
Speaker 2: Who's the offensive threat that's carrying this team?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a good team.
Speaker 1: Who is the who is the pitcher that's like Sunny
Speaker 1: Gray's like he has to take a walker out to
Speaker 1: the mountain. He's the one you're saying, is like the
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna carry you through the entire layoff run
Speaker 1: like one guy.
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit. I feel a little like
Speaker 3: a crazy person when people are like, well, the Red
Speaker 3: Sox just rattle off fifteen straight wins, There's no way
Speaker 3: they're sellers now. It's like, really, like why why would
Speaker 3: why are they now? Like their team's still a mess,
Speaker 3: Like you realized that, right. I'm sorry. I hate to
Speaker 3: say it because I don't want to. I know there's
Speaker 3: probably Red Sox fans listening, or they used to listen
Speaker 3: at least before this France. But I mean, there's just
Speaker 3: no way the Red Sox are a legitimate and tender.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's just not real.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I mean it's like I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a Cubs fan. Their they're starting rotation is not at
Speaker 1: that level. Hopefully they address it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at least one can win a seven
Speaker 3: game series, like anything, anything can happen. But if you
Speaker 3: look at like you know, it's like, oh you got
Speaker 3: like will you're a bray you as they're like number
Speaker 3: three hitter.
Speaker 1: Come, let's compare the Cubs lineup to the Red Sox
Speaker 1: lineup and then you know some different differences or scene
Speaker 1: at this point, totally alright, great waiver wires. You give
Speaker 1: people some bats. I'll give him some some arms and
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here.
Speaker 3: Okay. So uh so Cooper Pratt actually has been pretty
Speaker 3: hot rate recently. He's been uh he's been hitting for
Speaker 3: a little bit of power and stealing bags uh and
Speaker 3: hitting for average, so uh grab him, uh if he's
Speaker 3: out there. And then there's also I hate to say it,
Speaker 3: but he's at the he's at the top five on
Speaker 3: the Seven Day Player Raider. Louis Rengifo he's oh I
Speaker 3: thought he was? Is he is that with k O?
Speaker 3: This is the We had the kb O k b
Speaker 3: O into our seven Day Player Raider. Another guy who's
Speaker 3: back Baby Christian and Carci on Strand is at the
Speaker 3: top of the Seven Day Player Raiders. So he's hot.
Speaker 3: Ty Franz has been hot, Jacob Young, Jeff Neil Joey
Speaker 3: or tease Patrick Bailey on the Guardians he's been hot.
Speaker 3: Joe mack Marlins catcher, so we got catchers there, Jay
Speaker 3: Cronebert's actually been hot, Tyler Locklear, Cedric Mullins. I feel
Speaker 3: like Cedric Mullins is hot every week and for some
Speaker 3: reason on the season he's just not very good. I
Speaker 3: don't understand how that's work. That's what's happening there. Alex
Speaker 3: Baum had a big Sunday and now he's hot. Andrew
Speaker 3: Vaughan hit a home run on Sunday as well, he's hot.
Speaker 3: Chase Madriff has been hot, also hit a home run
Speaker 3: on Sunday. And then finally Michael Massey has been hot.
Speaker 3: So there's some names for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ellie pitching side.
Speaker 1: Brady Singer gets a two star week versus Cleveland versus Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: Brandon Fat at Pittsburgh. Con pree Lip has gotten it
Speaker 1: together he is at Seattle, Christian Scott versus Miami, Merril
Speaker 1: Kelly at Cleveland, Matthew Liberator at Toronto, Robert Gasser at
Speaker 1: the Angels, Tanner Bbe versus Arizona. Yeah, there's there's some
Speaker 1: good ones. There's there's a lot of bad matchups out
Speaker 1: there among the streaming pitchers. So it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of fire right now, especially as we're in late July
Speaker 1: early August. Give it like two more weeks, three more weeks,
Speaker 1: and you'll start getting some of the you know, the
Speaker 1: team's really giving up, and then then we'll get back
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