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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here when I'm new to one doowing now
Speaker 2: and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello,
Speaker 2: hit the boddy out here? What quin on out there?
Speaker 2: I've thought of a bit about tech for nine. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Easy announ there. Yeah, I'm welcome right heady.
Speaker 1: Welcome our guest to the show. It is Matthew from Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 3: Hello Roy, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I am good man. I appreciate you rescheduling. I know
Speaker 1: we had this set a couple of weeks back. I
Speaker 1: had to send you a text at the last minute
Speaker 1: and say, dude, I just can't do it. I had
Speaker 1: a really long interview that I was not anticipating. I
Speaker 1: do like to give everybody my full and undivided attention
Speaker 1: for your encounters. I appreciate you understanding and rescheduling, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you here. So let's get right
Speaker 1: into it. Let's talk about this big foot thing. What
Speaker 1: got you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 3: At my job, I'm pretty much listened to things in
Speaker 3: my ear ear buzz in, so I usually listen to
Speaker 3: music all the time. I'll just basically tired of listening
Speaker 3: to music. I was never in the podcast listening to them.
Speaker 3: I looked at them and chose one, and I saw
Speaker 3: theories of the third kind. I used to be a
Speaker 3: big conspiracy theorist and read about all that, and basically
Speaker 3: got to the point to where I say, man, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to change anything, so why am
Speaker 3: I even listening anymore? But away I turned them on,
Speaker 3: and somehow they got to talking about big food. They
Speaker 3: were joked about it or whatever. But somehow I ended
Speaker 3: up on Sasquatch chronicles and listened to that and beings
Speaker 3: listening to that for months and months at work about
Speaker 3: every day. So after about nine or ten months listening
Speaker 3: to that a lot, basically came to the conclusion I say, man,
Speaker 3: all these people can't be lying. So eventually I reached
Speaker 3: out to a Facebook group and joined it. I asked
Speaker 3: on there, does anybody have any land that they know
Speaker 3: of that I can go to? Anybody have a private
Speaker 3: land that they would allow me on? I said, I
Speaker 3: don't own any firearms. I didn't at the time. I said,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be taken EDNY. Some guy mentioned someplace in Columbia, Tennessee,
Speaker 3: which is TVA owned, I think. And then another guy
Speaker 3: reached out to me named Billy, and he said, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going in the woods well this Saturday. Would you
Speaker 3: like to go with me? So I message Jim. I
Speaker 3: said sure, stayed on messenger and messaged and swap numbers
Speaker 3: and talked a little bit. So we set up a
Speaker 3: time on Saturday for him to take me out to
Speaker 3: this property. So I get out to his place, meet Billy.
Speaker 3: He sets me down, He goes to a part of
Speaker 3: his house, gets his firearms, hands me at twelve gage,
Speaker 3: hands me a forty five. He says, let me talk
Speaker 3: to you for a minute, or we leave. Okay, And
Speaker 3: so he looks at me. He says, Matthew, all I
Speaker 3: asked you to do when we're out there is just
Speaker 3: listen to me. If I tell you to do something,
Speaker 3: do it. He said, just listen to me. It's for
Speaker 3: your safety. I was like, okay. He looked at me.
Speaker 3: He said, he stays, he'll kill you and they'll eat you.
Speaker 3: When he said that, it is in one ear and
Speaker 3: out the other. Honestly, I believed. But you're just going
Speaker 3: on what you heard. It didn't really shock me very.
Speaker 3: My curiosity was so much that I was like, whatever,
Speaker 3: let's go. So we sat there for a few minutes
Speaker 3: and talked, and went out to his truck and got
Speaker 3: in his truck and without warning and without telling me anything,
Speaker 3: it just started praying out aloud for our safety. It
Speaker 3: shocked me. I was like, okay, we hadn't ever got
Speaker 3: that far yet. We're just getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: We're just coming out in the woods.
Speaker 3: He starts praying out loud. It set you back, gave
Speaker 3: me pause. I was like, man, God might be telling
Speaker 3: me the truth. We head out to the property. It's
Speaker 3: outside of Nashville. I won't say exactly where it's at,
Speaker 3: but we pull up in the driveway. We get out
Speaker 3: of the truck and the owner of the properties there,
Speaker 3: there's another gentleman there. They're standing in the driveway. The
Speaker 3: owner says, they damaged my garage doors. His oge door
Speaker 3: was up about halfway and it was just buded to
Speaker 3: wear wooden you open or clothes. I assumed he was
Speaker 3: talking about their creatures or bigfoot. That's just what he says.
Speaker 3: And the DA was my garage door. Then the owner said,
Speaker 3: you don't come out here without Billy. I was like, okay.
Speaker 3: And then Billy's dressed. You don't tell anybody about the property,
Speaker 3: this and that, and I said okay. So our first
Speaker 3: time out, I'm walking around the property and I'm noticing
Speaker 3: footprints on the ground that looked like footprints to me,
Speaker 3: be footprints. I'm trying to take pictures and Billy starts
Speaker 3: walking down There's a swampy area near this property. And
Speaker 3: Billy starts walking down there and he's come on, man,
Speaker 3: come on. So I started walking with him. He walks
Speaker 3: me down into the swamp, shows me some trees that
Speaker 3: are twisted and broken and bent down, and there's a
Speaker 3: few of those. There's some odd it looked like a
Speaker 3: bunch of vines weave together, is what it looked like.
Speaker 3: And they were laying on the ground and I started
Speaker 3: to pick one in a hut. There's no way I
Speaker 3: could have picked it up. It was pretty big. I
Speaker 3: started to lift it up and believes, no, one, don't
Speaker 3: touch that. Don't touch that. And I'm like why, I
Speaker 3: want to look under it, but p really, He later
Speaker 3: told me he beats that's where they lay the little ones.
Speaker 3: So I'm just going off his word, saying whatever. So
Speaker 3: we move on and we're walking down in the swamp.
Speaker 3: I didn't really see any footprints in the swamp or anything.
Speaker 3: We start to come out of the swamp and there's
Speaker 3: a little rise, a little bitty hill, and he says,
Speaker 3: let's just sit here. In front of us. There's another
Speaker 3: little hill that we can't see over into the kind
Speaker 3: of the valley. So we're sitting on this first little
Speaker 3: hill and when he said sit here, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: let's go into the woods man, let's go further into
Speaker 3: the woods and look around. I totally mind to listen
Speaker 3: to him. So I sat down and we probably sat
Speaker 3: there for probably two or three minutes, and we start
Speaker 3: hearing footsteps walking our way. In my mind, clear as day,
Speaker 3: it sounded like somebody walking, somebody big, walking loud, one
Speaker 3: at a time, like bipedal footsteps. I had an audio
Speaker 3: recording of this. It lasted twenty three minutes. Now, it
Speaker 3: wasn't walking the whole time, but periodically it would be
Speaker 3: walking and then it would stop, and then it would walk,
Speaker 3: and then it would stomp. And after about ten minutes
Speaker 3: of this, since I've listened to podcasts for ten months,
Speaker 3: I'm like, something that seems up with this. I actually
Speaker 3: thought it to be intentional, so I started looking around.
Speaker 3: It's around my back. I didn't want to be caught guard.
Speaker 3: I don't know even what I'm messing with. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is totally true. So I'm just looking around,
Speaker 3: trying not to be caught off guard about what's going on.
Speaker 3: And I look at Billy and I said, man, do
Speaker 3: I need to raise my farm? And he's no, don't
Speaker 3: do that. After a while, I said, can I stand
Speaker 3: up and look what's I want to look over that
Speaker 3: little rise and see what's coming towards us. And she
Speaker 3: turns on you. You're dead. I'm like, okay, So I didn't
Speaker 3: stand up, probably would have if he wasn't there. Apparently
Speaker 3: he has seen the female, big female that he says
Speaker 3: is about ten foot. I think he said he's seen
Speaker 3: her four times. As this is going on, these footsteps
Speaker 3: and I'm looking around, I had him to look down
Speaker 3: at my left, and I'd see black hair moving through
Speaker 3: the tall grasses at the end of the swamp, just
Speaker 3: going through there. I didn't see a face. I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell form. I could just see black hair, and it
Speaker 3: was moving towards where the footsteps were coming towards ups
Speaker 3: or those footsteps that were carrying on for twenty missed
Speaker 3: were getting louder, like more so walking towards us. And
Speaker 3: when I saw that black hair movement to the grass,
Speaker 3: it was going towards those footsteps. What was odd to
Speaker 3: me was that whatever I saw black hair going through
Speaker 3: the grass, it was probably twelve feet away. I didn't
Speaker 3: hear a sound. I immediately looked to Billy and I pointed,
Speaker 3: and I said, black hair is moving through the grass.
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way this thing is totally silent.
Speaker 3: I should be hearing whatever's going through there. This was
Speaker 3: September second, I believe, of twenty twenty three. There was
Speaker 3: some deadball from the trees around I should heart it.
Speaker 3: It didn't make sense in my mind. As soon as
Speaker 3: that or whatever it was got out of my line
Speaker 3: of sight towards the redirection of those footsteps, nothing, Everything
Speaker 3: stopped about ten minutes later, I guess. We sat for
Speaker 3: probably ten minutes and then didn't hear anything. When we
Speaker 3: just got up and walked back toward was the house,
Speaker 3: which was just odd. So that was the first time
Speaker 3: I was out with Billy. Actually that was broad daylight,
Speaker 3: like probably four in the afternoon. That night. We sat there.
Speaker 3: He had a flear and I was looking around, my
Speaker 3: first time using a fleer. It actually hurt my eye
Speaker 3: and blinded me a little bit because I wasn't used
Speaker 3: to it or what settings weren't right. I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I used it a few times. I didn't really see anything.
Speaker 3: We were sitting there in some lawn chairs, and we
Speaker 3: heard two very distinct whoops. What was odd about it?
Speaker 3: I've heard owls, but for some reason it ended very
Speaker 3: abruptly with a p almost I don't know. It was
Speaker 3: just weird. So that was my first time out there.
Speaker 3: The second time we went out there, we crossed some
Speaker 3: other people's property. We took an ATV. We crossed some
Speaker 3: people's property to get where we wanted to be set up.
Speaker 3: He said that he had been out with another guy
Speaker 3: the week before. He goes that property as well. They
Speaker 3: sent up a trail cam, so he said he wanted
Speaker 3: to check on the trail cam. We brought some apples.
Speaker 3: I think we brought a cantalope. We threw some apples
Speaker 3: out in the field, put a candleope down. Checked on
Speaker 3: for where he put the trail camera. It was actually gone.
Speaker 3: I'm just going off what he said. I just met
Speaker 3: this guy, so I want to not really initially trust
Speaker 3: people when I first meet him. I'm pretty skeptical about
Speaker 3: some things. We can tell a lot from people with
Speaker 3: the way they talk sometimes if they're telling the truth
Speaker 3: or not. But with Billy, he seemed like a really
Speaker 3: legit guy. But still, when you first meet somebody, you're cautious.
Speaker 3: But Treip Cambler was going what I noticed. We didn't
Speaker 3: look very far. We literally looked right inside the woodline
Speaker 3: and we didn't go into the woods again. Later on
Speaker 3: I find out why we're not going into the woods
Speaker 3: in this area. So we sat there that night, second
Speaker 3: time out, brought the ATV, set up a couple of
Speaker 3: things throughout those apples, and the woods just erupted. It sounded,
Speaker 3: honestly like a bunch of monkeys. I honestly thought it
Speaker 3: was a bunch of monkeys out there yipping and yapping.
Speaker 3: It was odd. I've heard coyotes, it didn't sound like that.
Speaker 3: So that carried on for about I don't know, probably
Speaker 3: forty five minutes. When we're out there in the field,
Speaker 3: I look up with this sky and I see starlink
Speaker 3: going by, and it's the first time I've seen it,
Speaker 3: so I thought it was pretty cool. I was like, hey, Billy,
Speaker 3: look starlink at school. Billy's the oh whatever. I was
Speaker 3: looking up at starlink. I hadn't take the status because
Speaker 3: I don't even know what it was. It could have been,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. There were two bright
Speaker 3: lights in the sky. They were not starlink. Starlink was
Speaker 3: going across. They were moving like this way a starlink
Speaker 3: was going across, So starling passed. They started for They
Speaker 3: were very bright beside each other. I'm gonna say it
Speaker 3: was about airplane height. What they riding twenty thirty thousand
Speaker 3: feet or something like that. That's stick gas. They dimmed
Speaker 3: down and then they just went out. I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: Take all the lights just went out. I had to
Speaker 3: take to say it because I don't know what that
Speaker 3: is being. After things died down a little bit, Billy says,
Speaker 3: you want to go back to the house, and I
Speaker 3: was like, sure, So we take that ATV get on
Speaker 3: the highway. Got to take a little highway back up
Speaker 3: to the house. We're pulling in the driveway. Literally, this
Speaker 3: driveway is one of the coolest driveways. That sounds weird
Speaker 3: to say, the kudzoo, the vines, the covering. I have
Speaker 3: pictures of it. While it is. When you go in
Speaker 3: this driveway, you cannot see anything. You're in the driveway
Speaker 3: and you can't see on either side what's in the
Speaker 3: woods because it's so covered. So Billy's driving really slow
Speaker 3: on the driveway, barely even moving because he's checking out
Speaker 3: these little new tree breaks. There's actually little trees, not
Speaker 3: a big I would say, not even four foot tall
Speaker 3: trees that are broke off and they're pushed off into
Speaker 3: the driveway and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Billy's checking all this out. As he's driving really slow,
Speaker 3: I hear to my left, which is a valley that
Speaker 3: goes down into the swamp, and then there's another kind
Speaker 3: of valley on the other side of the swamp that
Speaker 3: goes into the big field that we were just at.
Speaker 3: As he's driving really slow, in my mind, I hear
Speaker 3: three people walking down in that little valley. It seriously
Speaker 3: sounded like three people. It shocked me. But we're on
Speaker 3: a ATV with Billy being in all this and not
Speaker 3: knowing what these things are, if they exist, there's so
Speaker 3: much for me. There was so much of an uncertainty
Speaker 3: of safety there that you're just in it. You don't
Speaker 3: know how you're going to react this, that, and the other.
Speaker 3: As we go to the driveway kind of loops around
Speaker 3: the house. There's a drop off that goes into the swamp.
Speaker 3: From the driveway. There was a pontoon boat in the driveway.
Speaker 3: It's a very big driveway. Billy says, let's just grab
Speaker 3: these chairs, So grab some chairs off the pontoon boat,
Speaker 3: set them up next to the swamp, probably to an
Speaker 3: alfree feet from the drop off in the swamp. I
Speaker 3: have never felt more unsettled ever than I was sitting
Speaker 3: in those chairs. You could literally hear walking all around
Speaker 3: you down in the swamp behind us, in the woods
Speaker 3: that were on the other side of the driveway, to
Speaker 3: the right. It was everywhere. He's just not even responding, Well,
Speaker 3: we're grabbing our chairs and setting them up in the driveway.
Speaker 3: This is what we hear, Mommy straight up, something says
Speaker 3: mommy in a high pitch voice like that. To me,
Speaker 3: it wasn't really a scary paranormal kind of It didn't
Speaker 3: feel like that. It almost felt like I'm going to
Speaker 3: mess with you. That's what it felt like. So we
Speaker 3: set up our chairs, were sitting there for probably a
Speaker 3: couple hours, about two and a half hours, and finally
Speaker 3: it just got to where I was so unsettled and
Speaker 3: Billy's follow asleep on me. I looked at Billy's falling
Speaker 3: asleep on my dude, Wake up, man, I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on here. Actually we're sitting there and there's
Speaker 3: two pebbles thrown one by his chair and one in
Speaker 3: front of my chair. Billy said, we're having pebbles thrown
Speaker 3: at us or rockstone at us. I'd said, yeah, I
Speaker 3: just noticed that it didn't seem aggressive. It's weird. And
Speaker 3: after a while sitting there, I just told Billy. I
Speaker 3: was saying, man, I'm ready to get out of here, dude,
Speaker 3: I've had enough. When we stood up out of our chairs,
Speaker 3: Billy was to my left. I get up and I
Speaker 3: look right at the drop off. There's a tree. It's
Speaker 3: very dark. It's ten thirty eleven at night. By a tree,
Speaker 3: I could see the top of the tree and you
Speaker 3: can see this guy and then you can actually see
Speaker 3: the tree. But down in the swamp, I couldn't see
Speaker 3: the tree. I just knew it was there, just from
Speaker 3: seeing it up top. There were floodlights on the house,
Speaker 3: so it was shining on the upper part of the tree.
Speaker 3: But they didn't go down into the swamp. The lighting
Speaker 3: didn't go that par be able to see the tree.
Speaker 3: But I stood up and I see five sets of
Speaker 3: eye shine. I initially saw four sets of eye shine
Speaker 3: staring at me. As I'm looking at it, I see five.
Speaker 3: I stood there in shock. I've literally got my shotgun
Speaker 3: in hand, I've got my forty five on me when
Speaker 3: these things are staring at me. Whatever it is staring
Speaker 3: at me. I stood there and I said Billy's name.
Speaker 3: I was like Billy, and I didn't say it loud
Speaker 3: enough because he didn't respond. I wish I could have
Speaker 3: this light to do over again because I don't know
Speaker 3: what I've done. But he didn't respond. He started to
Speaker 3: walk off, and I was staring at him, letting my
Speaker 3: eyes adjust, and I said, you know what, They're not
Speaker 3: attacking me. Whatever it is there, it's not attacking me.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to close my eyes for a few seconds.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: I want my eyes to adjust to the lighting. So
Speaker 3: I closed my eyes for about four seconds and I
Speaker 3: looked back and they're just there, big eyes and looked
Speaker 3: in front of the face. Some of them were different.
Speaker 3: Someone were closer, some of the farther apart. Some of
Speaker 3: them were brighter than the others. It didn't look abnormal.
Speaker 3: It looked like regular eyeshine. It just looked like some
Speaker 3: of them were brighter because of where they were in
Speaker 3: relation to the blood lights on the house. They weren't blinking,
Speaker 3: they were just staring. Then I just walked off. I
Speaker 3: didn't shine a flat slide, you know. I'm like, why
Speaker 3: did I do something? But I just didn't. I walked off,
Speaker 3: and then we walked back to the ATV and I
Speaker 3: left a club down there, and I say, hey, we'll
Speaker 3: keep taking me back down there because I'm not walking
Speaker 3: down everyone myself to get that. So it took me
Speaker 3: down there and we left that night. That was one
Speaker 3: of the most intense things I've been around firearms. I've
Speaker 3: shot many of them, not growing up with them and
Speaker 3: being running them often and using them often. There was
Speaker 3: a lack of confidence and that I would be able
Speaker 3: to use it properly, responsibly and not react in that
Speaker 3: crazy way. And if we got into a situation. That
Speaker 3: was one of my hang ups about being with Billy.
Speaker 3: It was like I got thrown in with the wolves.
Speaker 3: Was like, here you go, here they are. I honestly
Speaker 3: didn't want to put Billy's life in danger. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to put my life in danger, and I didn't
Speaker 3: want to act stupid if something were to happen. So
Speaker 3: I think that was partly when I was going through
Speaker 3: all this with Billy. It took me for a loop, man.
Speaker 3: I thought Billy was lying. I thought he was playing me.
Speaker 3: I think I had actually set up a time a
Speaker 3: while back to go on with you. I had canceled
Speaker 3: or something in a while back. It was many months ago.
Speaker 3: My head was spinning, man, because I just didn't understand
Speaker 3: what was happening. I thought demonic. I thought kids playing me.
Speaker 3: I looked up who's laying this was? I saw owned
Speaker 3: by DoD on their Department of Defense. Like I was spinning, man,
Speaker 3: I was like, something's going on here. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is. And it literally got to me mentally
Speaker 3: and emotionally. It shook me a little bit. The third
Speaker 3: time that we went out there, it was weird. I
Speaker 3: didn't stay long in the woods. I literally walked out.
Speaker 3: Billy told me, you never leave your man in the woods.
Speaker 3: He told me that, and I gave him time. I
Speaker 3: gave him time to get out with me because when
Speaker 3: we went in, we sat down. This is part of
Speaker 3: the reason why I felt like Billy was playing me.
Speaker 3: We sat down. Three minutes later, these things are making calls,
Speaker 3: almost like whoop calls. It sounded like they were notifying
Speaker 3: each other that me and Billy were in their area.
Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like. There were like three or
Speaker 3: four calls that happened. But here's what Billy said when
Speaker 3: we sat out. He said, so setting and he said
Speaker 3: about taking them to start up, and then they start
Speaker 3: doing it about a minute later, and I'm like, what wouldn't.
Speaker 1: That made you be in somebody's playing you.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we sit there and then there's a loud
Speaker 3: crash behind us. It almost sounded like a big branch
Speaker 3: hitting the ground. I don't know how far away. You
Speaker 3: didn't really tell. It was getting dark. We sat there.
Speaker 3: More rocks were thrown at a stand, not hitting us
Speaker 3: beside us, and then I hear heavy breathing pretty close,
Speaker 3: really long, elongated, heavy breathing. I didn't say anything initially
Speaker 3: after the crash, I told Billy, I said, man, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if I can see hearing this, and he said,
Speaker 3: may come on, just sit here. I already knew then
Speaker 3: I was probably going to walk out, so I gave
Speaker 3: him about seven to ten minutes to come with me.
Speaker 3: When I heard the heavy breathing that sounded really close,
Speaker 3: I looked at Billy's chest, I looked at his belly.
Speaker 3: I looked at his chest before I saw anything, because
Speaker 3: I wanted to see if it was him, and I
Speaker 3: wanted down to hear that look at him and see
Speaker 3: if it matched up. It didn't match up, I still
Speaker 3: asked him. I said, Billy, are you breathing heavy? And
Speaker 3: he said no, So I just let it go. It stopped,
Speaker 3: and then I said, okay, Billy, I'm going to walk out.
Speaker 3: And I gave him about three more minutes and I
Speaker 3: walked out. When I walked down, I honestly felt I
Speaker 3: was like, dude, I don't know if I'm gonna make it.
Speaker 3: I had to turn my flashlight on. I was like, honestly,
Speaker 3: we were probably about forty yards from the house, not
Speaker 3: very far. I still had to go up down little
Speaker 3: hills and they're pretty steep. I was like, ty, little
Speaker 3: legget out, I don't make it out. I'm getting out
Speaker 3: of here. And so I walked out. There was a
Speaker 3: I guess the nephew of the owner of the house.
Speaker 3: Our third time out there. He had shown up and
Speaker 3: put his RB in the driveway with that loud generator
Speaker 3: on it, and I was like, oh God, nothing's gonna
Speaker 3: be happening in this line. It was so weird. The
Speaker 3: difference of forty yards in the woods. And then I
Speaker 3: come out and the guy comes out of his RB,
Speaker 3: the nephew of the owner who's living there, I guess
Speaker 3: at the time, in the RB on the driveway. He's, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've a honeed these woods. I talked to him for
Speaker 3: a few minutes of honded these woods. I have never
Speaker 3: seen anything. The difference of being there in the woods
Speaker 3: here is I don't know, man, it didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: I'm like, they're right freaking there. But anyway, Billy, about
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty minutes later, he comes out of the woods.
Speaker 3: He said, man, did you not get my message? Like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? He said, I messaged you,
Speaker 3: I text you, and I called you. He said I
Speaker 3: needed your help back there. I heard something behind me.
Speaker 3: He said, I needed your help back there. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I put my phone on silent because you told me
Speaker 3: to put it all silent when I was out here,
Speaker 3: so I did. I don't need the text. I didn't
Speaker 3: hear oh call. It was upset man. Now Billy handled
Speaker 3: it well, but you could tell he was upset each
Speaker 3: night that I went out when we'd always go to
Speaker 3: waffle House, afterwards and talk about what went on. I
Speaker 3: only went out with him three times to that property.
Speaker 3: The third time I looked at him, I said, Billy,
Speaker 3: you got to tell me what's going on here. Man,
Speaker 3: this is something demonic. I'm not trying to take something
Speaker 3: into my home, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 3: just shook up man and he looked at me. He said, Matthew,
Speaker 3: He said, these are God created wild animals and they're
Speaker 3: masters of the forest.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I just took it in, and I didn't know what
Speaker 3: to think, honestly, because I just seem too weird. Man.
Speaker 3: You have stuff can happen around you. You can't see anything.
Speaker 3: It didn't make sense. That was the last time I
Speaker 3: went out with Billy. Billy and I had a fallen
Speaker 3: out because I took people out to the property. I
Speaker 3: broke my word. Took two people out to the property.
Speaker 3: I won't say who it was because I wanted to
Speaker 3: figure out what the heck was going on. We went,
Speaker 3: I don't remember what day it was, but it was
Speaker 3: light outside. We crossed some other people's property. I didn't
Speaker 3: cross the guy's property, the owner's property to get into there.
Speaker 3: I didn't even go on his property. The lady from
Speaker 3: the owner of that property that we crossed came down there.
Speaker 3: They said, what do y'all do with on my property?
Speaker 3: Told her of what we were doing. She said, well,
Speaker 3: just leave my deer on my turkey alone and y'all
Speaker 3: go ahead. And we was like, okay, we got the okay,
Speaker 3: let's just walk around in here. We didn't get to
Speaker 3: go where I wanted to go, on the other side
Speaker 3: of the creech where crek goes into the swamp. I
Speaker 3: wanted to go on the other side of the creak
Speaker 3: and explore those woods because that creek area that goes
Speaker 3: into the swamp is nobody's property. That's TVA owned, no
Speaker 3: way's property. Nothing happened that day. I actually, after we
Speaker 3: explored for about an hour, the men in the family
Speaker 3: came down the property crossed and they respectfully, tinally, very
Speaker 3: kindly said just please not cross our property. I've been
Speaker 3: back there by myself once, and I'll go back there again.
Speaker 3: I'm going through the waterway area, I can set into
Speaker 3: a recreational area and I get to kayak to the swamp.
Speaker 3: I've done it once already by myself, which is dumb,
Speaker 3: but I just have to know more man, so I
Speaker 3: have plans to I have met somebody named Drew who
Speaker 3: does crypto warfare operations. I heard him on Tony Merkle's podcast.
Speaker 3: I reached out to him. He's got a group of guys.
Speaker 3: He used to be at a police officer in Colorado.
Speaker 3: He had an encounter. Come to find out after contacting
Speaker 3: him that he actually goes to the church that I
Speaker 3: go to. He lives Murphy's World where I live because
Speaker 3: of the church I go to. So I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I need to see Hell. I want to take somebody
Speaker 3: out there. I'm not going to go alone. We won't
Speaker 3: cross people's property, be on TVA land, go that route.
Speaker 3: I honestly feel like that the property where Billy's at
Speaker 3: is being wasted for research purposes. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: I respect Billy, He's a great guy. I broke my word,
Speaker 3: which is wrong. I actually called him and told him
Speaker 3: that I broke my word. I was like, dude, I
Speaker 3: took people out to the property. I was honest with him.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to lie to him, and that's why
Speaker 3: we had a falling out. He's just had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with you after that, which is cool. I totally
Speaker 3: get it. But that was basically me reacting out of
Speaker 3: just being uncertain, not trusting, didn't believe him. I wanted
Speaker 3: to figure out for myself. Since then I basically let
Speaker 3: it go for a while. Man, it bugged me so
Speaker 3: much that I said, man, it says saw my mind
Speaker 3: too much. It's bugging me. I actually felt somewhat I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, heavy, burdened up, appressed almost like it
Speaker 3: was just handy, and I was like, dude, I gotta
Speaker 3: look this go. So I let it go for a while.
Speaker 3: While wife and my three year old daughter we went
Speaker 3: walking in the woods somewhere the park and I started
Speaker 3: noticing something. I was like, this looks pretty similar to
Speaker 3: what's going on and outside of Nashville where me and
Speaker 3: Billy went, And I was like, I got to come
Speaker 3: back here and investigate and look at this, so I did,
Speaker 3: so I let it go for a short time. I
Speaker 3: looked at this park for a little bit. I won't
Speaker 3: mention that the park people would laugh their heads off, man,
Speaker 3: they really would. But if people in the field that
Speaker 3: we research, we investigate, we're into knowing the truth about
Speaker 3: would go in there, they would they would see what's
Speaker 3: going on. I learned alaw from Billy just in three
Speaker 3: times going out with him. I learned how to notice
Speaker 3: some things you do learn some things from podcasts. This
Speaker 3: place that I'm going to now, I drive on eight
Speaker 3: p forty every day where mercurysbor on Fronkline every day
Speaker 3: and back, and I kept noticing this place. I kep
Speaker 3: noticing the woods for about a month. I said, I
Speaker 3: need to go in there because the woods are an
Speaker 3: absolute wreck.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back. After these messages, and I had
Speaker 3: talked to through all this, trying to figure this all out,
Speaker 3: the truth about all that. I had talked to Darryl
Speaker 3: Denton too. He used to go with Billy to that property.
Speaker 3: He told me. I talked to him on the phone
Speaker 3: about three times. I think it was. He's told me
Speaker 3: that him and Billy went out to that property upwards
Speaker 3: of seventy eighty times together. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 3: didn't know who Billy was when he contacted me. I
Speaker 3: just thought he's some random dude. So I talked to
Speaker 3: Darryl Denton a couple of times, and he probably only
Speaker 3: talked to me because I knew Billy, and I went
Speaker 3: out with Billy, but everywhere I got to talk to
Speaker 3: him a couple of times. You need to look for
Speaker 3: an X, like an X formation of some trees. He
Speaker 3: told me some other things too, just a couple of pointers.
Speaker 3: So as I'm driving down the air and State, I
Speaker 3: thought I saw a formation of an X in the woods.
Speaker 3: The weird thing is, man, I'll tell you exactly where
Speaker 3: it is. I don't care who knew. I honestly don't
Speaker 3: care who knows where I go. They want to go,
Speaker 3: they can go. All I ask is you don't go
Speaker 3: on dude's property. I don't go on this property. I
Speaker 3: learned the hard way to do things right. When people
Speaker 3: say don't cross their property, don't do it. If they
Speaker 3: say don't tell anybody about the property, don't do it.
Speaker 3: Me personally, I want to know the truth, and I
Speaker 3: don't care who figured it out. So my area where
Speaker 3: I go is literally if you look up Castle Win
Speaker 3: in Ericton, Tennessee, it is right near there. I agree,
Speaker 3: I drive by it every day. It sounds ridiculous that
Speaker 3: it's by a castle. It really does. I always say
Speaker 3: I found no Arnia because it's by a castle. I
Speaker 3: go in there one day, it was April sixth, on
Speaker 3: the way to work. I said, I'm gonna stop in there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do some video. So I took some video.
Speaker 3: I've taken a lot of video in the woods because
Speaker 3: of me trying to figure this out, investigate it, trying
Speaker 3: to figure out the truth. Just seven minute video. Man,
Speaker 3: it's weird, that's all I can say. It's just weird.
Speaker 3: A lot of things are blurry that I think this
Speaker 3: shouldn't be blurry when it comes to Paradolia stuff. It's
Speaker 3: in every video. You can see it everywhere. Man, I
Speaker 3: pass up the majority of it. The one thing that
Speaker 3: I always keep coming back to is I don't know
Speaker 3: if you got him. I sent some stuff to you.
Speaker 3: But it's a clip of the videos. Three minutes and
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds into the video as on video, and I
Speaker 3: passed by this one tree. A right profile. I think
Speaker 3: it is a right profile being man looking being. You
Speaker 3: can see his right profile or from behind the tree. Now,
Speaker 3: I know you can't tell depth from that. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's actually right behind that tree. I think it's
Speaker 3: further back. But it transforms into something I don't know
Speaker 3: what it is. I honestly wish I had the technology
Speaker 3: to show people what I'm seeing in the video. But
Speaker 3: when I slow it down, its right profile and you
Speaker 3: can see its eye on the side of its head,
Speaker 3: and then it starts to turn my direction. As it's turning,
Speaker 3: it almost looks like to me, it looks like it
Speaker 3: turns into them, like a muzzle of a dog. It
Speaker 3: starts to and then as it goes on, you can't
Speaker 3: tell because it's so blurry and it's behind some leaves,
Speaker 3: but there is a critter or a pump that's on
Speaker 3: its head, on the right side of its head. It
Speaker 3: looks like a pump like any animal in the animal Kingdom.
Speaker 3: Little baby postles right on the head, right on the
Speaker 3: back of their mom or dad or whatever. That's what
Speaker 3: it looks like to me. Then you continue on, it
Speaker 3: changes even more. I don't know. I will pass up
Speaker 3: every bit of stuff that I actually think is some
Speaker 3: stuff in the video, but I won't share because people
Speaker 3: will laugh at all. This thing I always come back
Speaker 3: to and go over it and go over it because
Speaker 3: I can literally see it's either wrinkles in the forehead
Speaker 3: of the profile being that first comes out from the
Speaker 3: tree or wrinkles in its forehead or its veins one
Speaker 3: and the other. It's very evident to me that it's
Speaker 3: something that changes form. One of the interesting things about
Speaker 3: this video is I had about a nine second clip
Speaker 3: I had sent to Darryl Denton, not this clip that
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. It was about a nine second clip.
Speaker 3: It was about a minute into the video and I
Speaker 3: sent it to Darryl Dinton and I said, hey, make
Speaker 3: can you look at a video for me? He said sure,
Speaker 3: so I sent it to him. He said, Man, I
Speaker 3: don't know what that is. Jennifer Appleton Bigfoot Believers in
Speaker 3: Other Creatures I think is the Facebook group with Darryl
Speaker 3: heads up. But Jennifer Appleton is one of that admins.
Speaker 3: And she actually messaged me said, hey, will you send
Speaker 3: me that clip that you said to Darryl. I said sure,
Speaker 3: so I sent it to her. She wrote me back
Speaker 3: and she said, do you know what you got? I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I see something, but I can't tell what it is.
Speaker 3: She said, You've got a cloaked bigfoot babysitting dog man puffs.
Speaker 3: And when she said that, I honestly was like, okay, whatever. Well, Billy,
Speaker 3: Actually the first time when I was out with him
Speaker 3: in that property, he had told me about dog Man.
Speaker 3: You know, my dude, come on, bro, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: figure out the truth about what do you talk about, Dolgtman?
Speaker 3: You heard it? Whatever. So when Jennif Rapple Caon told
Speaker 3: me that, I just took it in whatever. But later
Speaker 3: on after I hadn't seen that clip yet, the one
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the pro copying. But after I saw that,
Speaker 3: I happened to step back and question. I said, Okay,
Speaker 3: are there people that are able to see things that
Speaker 3: others keep it? That's what it made me question. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I honestly don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: But basically where I'm at now, man, I've taken video.
Speaker 3: I've gone to different woods, different sections of the woods
Speaker 3: in Murphysboro. When I was at the Sioux, I did
Speaker 3: it with my kid. I'm just a wooded area. I
Speaker 3: wanted to see, basically Paredolia, That's what I wanted to see.
Speaker 3: I wanted to see how many paces I could pick out.
Speaker 3: I wanted to study my video that I first went
Speaker 3: out to this one place near the castle versus all
Speaker 3: these other wooded areas. I wanted to see the difference.
Speaker 3: I just want to see. I want to figure it out.
Speaker 3: This video near the castle, it's different, It's just different. I,
Speaker 3: honest to God, wish that there was somebody in this
Speaker 3: field that knew more about this stuff, man, because if
Speaker 3: they are just blesh and blood, I think they have
Speaker 3: some extraordinary capabilities. That's basically where I'm at, man. I
Speaker 3: had some encounters, threw me for a loop, got out
Speaker 3: of there for a while. I had to let it go,
Speaker 3: and now I just can't let it go. But in
Speaker 3: my area near the castle where I go. One day,
Speaker 3: I went in there two days before and threw out
Speaker 3: some apples. I threw them over the fence where I
Speaker 3: won't go. One of them hit a tree that was
Speaker 3: like right in front of me. I went two days
Speaker 3: later to go in there again. Half of the apple
Speaker 3: was eating, which I wasn't worried about. Their game trails
Speaker 3: all through there a heavy game trail where the apple is,
Speaker 3: so I was like, deer ate it. I grabbed the apple.
Speaker 3: I'm filming, and I throw the apple. I say, here's
Speaker 3: your apple, and I film it where I throw it
Speaker 3: in where I won't go. I said, here's your apple,
Speaker 3: and I go boop and threw it in. I didn't
Speaker 3: pay attention or I wouldn't look it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I go over the video. You see the apple come down.
Speaker 3: Something comes up and goes quickly back down. Speed at
Speaker 3: which it went back down doesn't make sense. That's what
Speaker 3: don't make sense. So it's like the apple goes down,
Speaker 3: something pops up and goes down really quick. I was
Speaker 3: taking video and it shut off within a minute, I
Speaker 3: think the first time, and I was like, oh, accidentally
Speaker 3: hit it. I'll just be careful. It wouldn't let me.
Speaker 3: You know how, sometimes if your video will freeze, you
Speaker 3: don't allow you hit the button again to continue. It wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I had to exit out, go back into the app,
Speaker 3: push start again. I was like, okay, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: careful here. It happened three more times, dudy. It happened
Speaker 3: like in a minute. It happened at thirty three seconds,
Speaker 3: like fifty nine seconds, and then thirty something seconds again.
Speaker 3: So after four times, I just quit video for about
Speaker 3: ten minutes when I just walked around and looked around
Speaker 3: in there. I won't go far because of what I
Speaker 3: got on the video. Then the first time plus I've
Speaker 3: tried to contact the owner of the property. This property
Speaker 3: is a business as well, so when I reached out
Speaker 3: to try to get access to his property, I didn't
Speaker 3: know who I was talking to. I couldn't actually find
Speaker 3: his information, his personal information and phone over email or anything,
Speaker 3: so I was vague about asking for access. I was like,
Speaker 3: I sent an email and said, hey, there's a piece
Speaker 3: of property. I wonder if it's yours. Would you be
Speaker 3: able to tell me. They said, yeah, he'll get back
Speaker 3: with you. This that, and the other I mean is
Speaker 3: there's Mike Freeman who owns that castle. He got back
Speaker 3: with me and said I'd taken a video and I'd
Speaker 3: like to show you what I see. He says, send
Speaker 3: a clip of the video. So I sent a clip.
Speaker 3: I said, man, if you don't have the capability to
Speaker 3: zoom in to zoom out that it happens so fast,
Speaker 3: you're not going to see it. I said it kindly,
Speaker 3: and then after that, I was like, I'm not a hunter,
Speaker 3: I'm not a fisherman. I'm not looking for a place
Speaker 3: to do that. I would just like to walk this area,
Speaker 3: That's all I said. I got no response, so I
Speaker 3: still go there. I just don't go into his property.
Speaker 3: I stay on the outskirts of it. She indicated by fans.
Speaker 3: It's literally a wreck. And there in one of the
Speaker 3: things I thought was a nice coincidence. I'll say, there's
Speaker 3: a guy that I had comment on a post of
Speaker 3: his in the group. The day that my camera's shut
Speaker 3: off four times, I don't had message Jim. We hadn't
Speaker 3: talked at all for seven weeks. The day that my
Speaker 3: camera shut off, I get home and I get a
Speaker 3: message from him like alablood. I'm like, dude, this is
Speaker 3: not a continuous relationships. He said. It cracks me up
Speaker 3: when people said they had to run out of the
Speaker 3: woods run away from these things. He said, these things
Speaker 3: are so fast. If they wanted you, they can happy.
Speaker 3: They'll run by your camera and shut it off three times.
Speaker 3: He said. It happened to me when I was trying
Speaker 3: to video a footprint the other day they shut it
Speaker 3: off three times. That just happened to me today. It
Speaker 3: was just a coincidence.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Billy and that initial property.
Speaker 1: A couple of things, I guess. The first thing for me,
Speaker 1: for the owner of the property, did they know what
Speaker 1: was going on on? The property, what you guys were
Speaker 1: out there, did they have those kind of experiences with
Speaker 1: these things?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: How did Billy get involved in that? I guess the
Speaker 1: second part of that question would be what was Billy's
Speaker 1: end game for this? Because it seems very odd behavior
Speaker 1: what you described the three times you guys went out.
Speaker 1: He just goes out, He sets a chair, he won't
Speaker 1: let you go into the woods, he didn't want to
Speaker 1: go pursue anything. Just kind of seems like he's almost
Speaker 1: a voyeuristic sort of relationship that he has with these things.
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that where the
Speaker 1: owner's aware of it? Then how did Billy get involved
Speaker 1: with them and figure out what was going on? I
Speaker 1: guess clarity would be the word I'm looking forward. Did
Speaker 1: you get any clarity on what the end game for
Speaker 1: Billy was with these things and what kind of experiences
Speaker 1: he had with them?
Speaker 3: Okay, so Billy has known the owner. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to mention his name. He's known the owner for about
Speaker 3: ten years. He kept asking Billy just to come hunt
Speaker 3: with them on his property. Billy hunts, and that other
Speaker 3: guy did too. He said, here, come through her all
Speaker 3: the din there's come hunt with me. But in the
Speaker 3: meantime he also told Billy. He said, hey, I've got
Speaker 3: these things on my property, these creatures on my property.
Speaker 3: Billy told me that when he told him that, he
Speaker 3: was like, okay, whatever, man, he said. I didn't not
Speaker 3: believe him because he's my friend, but I didn't believe
Speaker 3: him because he was unsure. Billy said he was hunting
Speaker 3: and he saw a female. He said it was by accident.
Speaker 3: He saw female at breast. He said it shocked him.
Speaker 3: But for Billy, it was like, I really got to
Speaker 3: know the truth. Did I see what I was actually seeing?
Speaker 3: Billy actually went out there by himself, and he stood
Speaker 3: in the woods by himself. He has a picture of
Speaker 3: the female now it's at nights with the flash with
Speaker 3: this phone. It's a pretty good picture. She's big. He
Speaker 3: sat up there all night long. He said. It was
Speaker 3: about four in the morning when she came up near him,
Speaker 3: saw him, and then took off the other direction, just
Speaker 3: immily saw him, moved on and that's when he snapped
Speaker 3: the picture. I was like, how'd you get that picture?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I just got lucky. We were at wall House when
Speaker 3: I was asking him about it, and I said, man,
Speaker 3: what did you feel what was going on in with
Speaker 3: you when you saw this? Saying he didn't say a word.
Speaker 3: He actually just with his hands facts like he was
Speaker 3: taking off his belt, put it her on his chest,
Speaker 3: and strapped his heart in with what he did. So
Speaker 3: that's how Billy came about the knowledge that they were there.
Speaker 3: He came to know for a fact for himself that
Speaker 3: they were there because he went in there by himself.
Speaker 3: He is also had another incident where he said that
Speaker 3: he thinks that he accidentally got in between a mama
Speaker 3: and the baby because daddy was standing up. He was
Speaker 3: over there crouching down. Billy said, I got in a
Speaker 3: position where I think I shouldn't have been. The mail
Speaker 3: stood up and started to like almost not lunge again,
Speaker 3: but just act like he was going to coak towards
Speaker 3: his weight. Billy said, it was getting dusk. I had
Speaker 3: to raise my ar up and flip my light on.
Speaker 3: It was on my ar, he said. As soon as
Speaker 3: I raised my r flipped my light on, he said,
Speaker 3: that thing went immediately back down. It knew what that
Speaker 3: thing was, what the firearm was. That's what he's told me.
Speaker 3: He is has scene eight of them in this area
Speaker 3: this property. As far as Billy's end game, honestly, that's
Speaker 3: why I think it's been wasted, man, because his endgame.
Speaker 3: I've asked him, I said, what's your goal of all this?
Speaker 3: When we went out three times? What's your goal? He said, Man,
Speaker 3: I want to feed the female from my hand. I
Speaker 3: want to feed Eric Kenelo from my hand. I'm might okay,
Speaker 3: I can get a goal like that. In the bigger picture, man,
Speaker 3: it's being wasted.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: There's so much activity there that it's like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? There's no research, there's experimental, personal research, experience
Speaker 3: encountering is what's going on there? There's no research being
Speaker 3: don't I don't consider myself a researcher an investigator. I
Speaker 3: love to go out and I want to find out
Speaker 3: the truth. I do what I did. I really feel
Speaker 3: like that place is just be wasted.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder, man, because I hear these stories
Speaker 1: from people. I've talked to people that work in close museum.
Speaker 1: I've obviously talked to Cliff and he's told me he's
Speaker 1: seen some really wild video and photographs from trail cams
Speaker 1: that people have that will never see the light of day.
Speaker 1: It hurts my heart to hear you say that this
Speaker 1: guy's got a picture of this female. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: damn good picture that probably only the few people that
Speaker 1: he chooses to show will ever see it. I certainly
Speaker 1: get that, because as one who put forward my own
Speaker 1: evidence in the past, I know how people are. They
Speaker 1: immediately come out of the woodwork. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 3: You created it.
Speaker 1: It's fake, that's not real.
Speaker 2: You did that.
Speaker 1: I get that. I don't fault the man for that.
Speaker 1: It just irks me so badly. It's not even a
Speaker 1: personal thing with anybody who has it, because I totally
Speaker 1: get why they don't do it. I just hate that
Speaker 1: it happens because there's so much I feel there's so
Speaker 1: much evidence out there. I've said that since day one.
Speaker 1: I believe there's a lot more out there than we'll
Speaker 1: ever know. It happened to me there was a gentleman
Speaker 1: who came up to me. I think it was a
Speaker 1: Smoking Mountain Bigfoot conference a couple of years ago, had
Speaker 1: some footage from his friend's trail camp that absolutely blew
Speaker 1: me away, and he would not share it. He literally said,
Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me what you think
Speaker 1: this is. Do you think this could be a sasquatch?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, holy shit, dude, that is clearly a sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is okay. I'm done.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm putting my phone away. I'm not sharing it with anybody.
Speaker 1: I got to give it to you. No you can't
Speaker 1: take a picture of it. No you can't have it.
Speaker 1: And it just blows me away, man, because I believe
Speaker 1: that there are areas very similar to what you talked about.
Speaker 1: I just had a phone conversation today with Logan. Logan's
Speaker 1: been on the show a couple of times. He's the
Speaker 1: one who put the cameras up in Radium up at
Speaker 1: Todd Standing's research area, and he's looking for other places
Speaker 1: at Logan and I were talking about some other things,
Speaker 1: but he's actually approached me about possibly doing a camera
Speaker 1: project here on our land in North Carolina. I'm a
Speaker 1: little apprehensive about that because I live here, but we're
Speaker 1: going to have that conversation. He was talking about that
Speaker 1: he's found a couple of other locations, but he's looking
Speaker 1: for locations just like you're talking about. I guarantee he
Speaker 1: could go in there and put enough cameras up, he
Speaker 1: would probably catch evidence of these creatures, probably damn good
Speaker 1: evidence video and or still photographs and even audio, because
Speaker 1: he sent me a bunch of stuff he's gotten from radium,
Speaker 1: and they're excellent cameras. But it'll never happen because people
Speaker 1: will not allow it to happen. And so it just
Speaker 1: frustrates me.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I agree with that, and it is frustrating.
Speaker 3: I just let it be. What I do know is
Speaker 3: that the group of guys that I'm talking to, they're
Speaker 3: ready to go. I'll just put it that way. You
Speaker 3: can look them up. They actually some of them do
Speaker 3: security for our church. They train and stuff together. So
Speaker 3: I honestly don't care what Billy thinks. You can leave
Speaker 3: this in or cut it out. I don't care it's
Speaker 3: being wasted. I'm honestly to the point, man. I used
Speaker 3: to say, never a body, never take one out, get
Speaker 3: a body. I'm to the point there to where if
Speaker 3: there's an opportunity that I could take some guys out here,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say safe, but if you get a body,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I don't know if that'll
Speaker 3: ever happen, man, And this guy's told me that they
Speaker 3: actually have shot one follow the blood trail. They believe
Speaker 3: that another one of them picked up the body and
Speaker 3: ran off with it because they lost the blood trail.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. And then two of these guys,
Speaker 3: but I'm willing to try it out and take them
Speaker 3: out to my spots that I go to. Even though
Speaker 3: I'm really intrigued about the spot that I went to
Speaker 3: with Billy, I very much know that I've got some
Speaker 3: activity in my location. I don't get to spend enough time.
Speaker 3: First of all, I'm not going to stay out there alone.
Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. So unless I have some
Speaker 3: other people stay with me overnight, I'm not damn. Plus, man,
Speaker 3: there's no where to park. I literally pull on the
Speaker 3: side of the interstate to go in there. Cops who
Speaker 3: got behind me before sheriff. I come out of the
Speaker 3: woods and blue lights are going on my Oh crap,
Speaker 3: I got to come out of the woods now. And
Speaker 3: we're like, you're in the wood, you broke down, You're good.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He said you had to go in the woods. I like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I had to go in the woods, you know, like,
Speaker 3: all right, let's see la.
Speaker 1: Or I may or may not have talked a little
Speaker 1: bit of shit about you when you left us a
Speaker 1: voicemail on your way into your research area over on
Speaker 1: that boot podcast. That may or may not happen, Folks,
Speaker 1: I cannot confirm or did not. I don't care, man, Matthew.
Speaker 1: I appre shit you coming on and sharing your experiences. Man,
Speaker 1: I too, like you, believe that area is definitely being wasted.
Speaker 1: If a third of what you said is actually happening there,
Speaker 1: then it definitely needs to be explored. But I appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming on and chair man, I've had a blast
Speaker 1: talking to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, I really appreciate you, Brian, And I apologized
Speaker 3: to you for the first time that I reached out
Speaker 3: to you and never went on and I had some
Speaker 3: crazy stuff going on in my head. Man, I appreciate
Speaker 3: you and reaching back out and doing this, and I
Speaker 3: look forward to hearing your experiences encounter what happened there.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you, Brian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to telling him.
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