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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to

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<v Speaker 2>kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence, and name was dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around

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<v Speaker 2>out here? Did you see what it was? It was

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<v Speaker 2>enough out here when I'm new to one doowing now

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the boddy out here? What quin on out there?

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<v Speaker 2>I've thought of a bit about tech for nine. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Easy announ there. Yeah, I'm welcome right heady.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome our guest to the show. It is Matthew from Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show man.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Roy, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I am good man. I appreciate you rescheduling. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we had this set a couple of weeks back. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to send you a text at the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>and say, dude, I just can't do it. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a really long interview that I was not anticipating. I

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<v Speaker 1>do like to give everybody my full and undivided attention

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<v Speaker 1>for your encounters. I appreciate you understanding and rescheduling, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to have you here. So let's get right

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Let's talk about this big foot thing. What

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<v Speaker 1>got you interested in the subject to begin with?

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<v Speaker 3>At my job, I'm pretty much listened to things in

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<v Speaker 3>my ear ear buzz in, so I usually listen to

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<v Speaker 3>music all the time. I'll just basically tired of listening

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<v Speaker 3>to music. I was never in the podcast listening to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at them and chose one, and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>theories of the third kind. I used to be a

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<v Speaker 3>big conspiracy theorist and read about all that, and basically

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<v Speaker 3>got to the point to where I say, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna be able to change anything, so why am

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<v Speaker 3>I even listening anymore? But away I turned them on,

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<v Speaker 3>and somehow they got to talking about big food. They

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<v Speaker 3>were joked about it or whatever. But somehow I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up on Sasquatch chronicles and listened to that and beings

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<v Speaker 3>listening to that for months and months at work about

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<v Speaker 3>every day. So after about nine or ten months listening

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<v Speaker 3>to that a lot, basically came to the conclusion I say, man,

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<v Speaker 3>all these people can't be lying. So eventually I reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to a Facebook group and joined it. I asked

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<v Speaker 3>on there, does anybody have any land that they know

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<v Speaker 3>of that I can go to? Anybody have a private

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<v Speaker 3>land that they would allow me on? I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't own any firearms. I didn't at the time. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be taken EDNY. Some guy mentioned someplace in Columbia, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>which is TVA owned, I think. And then another guy

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<v Speaker 3>reached out to me named Billy, and he said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going in the woods well this Saturday. Would you

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<v Speaker 3>like to go with me? So I message Jim. I

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<v Speaker 3>said sure, stayed on messenger and messaged and swap numbers

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<v Speaker 3>and talked a little bit. So we set up a

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<v Speaker 3>time on Saturday for him to take me out to

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<v Speaker 3>this property. So I get out to his place, meet Billy.

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<v Speaker 3>He sets me down, He goes to a part of

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<v Speaker 3>his house, gets his firearms, hands me at twelve gage,

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<v Speaker 3>hands me a forty five. He says, let me talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you for a minute, or we leave. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 3>so he looks at me. He says, Matthew, all I

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<v Speaker 3>asked you to do when we're out there is just

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<v Speaker 3>listen to me. If I tell you to do something,

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<v Speaker 3>do it. He said, just listen to me. It's for

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<v Speaker 3>your safety. I was like, okay. He looked at me.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, he stays, he'll kill you and they'll eat you.

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<v Speaker 3>When he said that, it is in one ear and

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<v Speaker 3>out the other. Honestly, I believed. But you're just going

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<v Speaker 3>on what you heard. It didn't really shock me very.

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<v Speaker 3>My curiosity was so much that I was like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go. So we sat there for a few minutes

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<v Speaker 3>and talked, and went out to his truck and got

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<v Speaker 3>in his truck and without warning and without telling me anything,

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<v Speaker 3>it just started praying out aloud for our safety. It

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<v Speaker 3>shocked me. I was like, okay, we hadn't ever got

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<v Speaker 3>that far yet. We're just getting to know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just coming out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>He starts praying out loud. It set you back, gave

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<v Speaker 3>me pause. I was like, man, God might be telling

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<v Speaker 3>me the truth. We head out to the property. It's

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<v Speaker 3>outside of Nashville. I won't say exactly where it's at,

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<v Speaker 3>but we pull up in the driveway. We get out

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<v Speaker 3>of the truck and the owner of the properties there,

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<v Speaker 3>there's another gentleman there. They're standing in the driveway. The

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<v Speaker 3>owner says, they damaged my garage doors. His oge door

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<v Speaker 3>was up about halfway and it was just buded to

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<v Speaker 3>wear wooden you open or clothes. I assumed he was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about their creatures or bigfoot. That's just what he says.

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<v Speaker 3>And the DA was my garage door. Then the owner said,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't come out here without Billy. I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Billy's dressed. You don't tell anybody about the property,

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<v Speaker 3>this and that, and I said okay. So our first

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<v Speaker 3>time out, I'm walking around the property and I'm noticing

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<v Speaker 3>footprints on the ground that looked like footprints to me,

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<v Speaker 3>be footprints. I'm trying to take pictures and Billy starts

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<v Speaker 3>walking down There's a swampy area near this property. And

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<v Speaker 3>Billy starts walking down there and he's come on, man,

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<v Speaker 3>come on. So I started walking with him. He walks

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<v Speaker 3>me down into the swamp, shows me some trees that

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<v Speaker 3>are twisted and broken and bent down, and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>few of those. There's some odd it looked like a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of vines weave together, is what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were laying on the ground and I started

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<v Speaker 3>to pick one in a hut. There's no way I

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<v Speaker 3>could have picked it up. It was pretty big. I

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<v Speaker 3>started to lift it up and believes, no, one, don't

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<v Speaker 3>touch that. Don't touch that. And I'm like why, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to look under it, but p really, He later

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<v Speaker 3>told me he beats that's where they lay the little ones.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just going off his word, saying whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>we move on and we're walking down in the swamp.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really see any footprints in the swamp or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We start to come out of the swamp and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little rise, a little bitty hill, and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just sit here. In front of us. There's another

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<v Speaker 3>little hill that we can't see over into the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the valley. So we're sitting on this first little

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<v Speaker 3>hill and when he said sit here, I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go into the woods man, let's go further into

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<v Speaker 3>the woods and look around. I totally mind to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to him. So I sat down and we probably sat

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<v Speaker 3>there for probably two or three minutes, and we start

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<v Speaker 3>hearing footsteps walking our way. In my mind, clear as day,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounded like somebody walking, somebody big, walking loud, one

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<v Speaker 3>at a time, like bipedal footsteps. I had an audio

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<v Speaker 3>recording of this. It lasted twenty three minutes. Now, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't walking the whole time, but periodically it would be

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<v Speaker 3>walking and then it would stop, and then it would walk,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it would stomp. And after about ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of this, since I've listened to podcasts for ten months,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, something that seems up with this. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>thought it to be intentional, so I started looking around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's around my back. I didn't want to be caught guard.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know even what I'm messing with. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if this is totally true. So I'm just looking around,

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<v Speaker 3>trying not to be caught off guard about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I look at Billy and I said, man, do

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<v Speaker 3>I need to raise my farm? And he's no, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that. After a while, I said, can I stand

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<v Speaker 3>up and look what's I want to look over that

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<v Speaker 3>little rise and see what's coming towards us. And she

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<v Speaker 3>turns on you. You're dead. I'm like, okay, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>stand up, probably would have if he wasn't there. Apparently

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<v Speaker 3>he has seen the female, big female that he says

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<v Speaker 3>is about ten foot. I think he said he's seen

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<v Speaker 3>her four times. As this is going on, these footsteps

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking around, I had him to look down

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<v Speaker 3>at my left, and I'd see black hair moving through

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<v Speaker 3>the tall grasses at the end of the swamp, just

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<v Speaker 3>going through there. I didn't see a face. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>tell form. I could just see black hair, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was moving towards where the footsteps were coming towards ups

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<v Speaker 3>or those footsteps that were carrying on for twenty missed

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<v Speaker 3>were getting louder, like more so walking towards us. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw that black hair movement to the grass,

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<v Speaker 3>it was going towards those footsteps. What was odd to

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<v Speaker 3>me was that whatever I saw black hair going through

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<v Speaker 3>the grass, it was probably twelve feet away. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hear a sound. I immediately looked to Billy and I pointed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, black hair is moving through the grass.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, there's no way this thing is totally silent.

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<v Speaker 3>I should be hearing whatever's going through there. This was

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<v Speaker 3>September second, I believe, of twenty twenty three. There was

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<v Speaker 3>some deadball from the trees around I should heart it.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't make sense in my mind. As soon as

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<v Speaker 3>that or whatever it was got out of my line

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<v Speaker 3>of sight towards the redirection of those footsteps, nothing, Everything

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<v Speaker 3>stopped about ten minutes later, I guess. We sat for

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<v Speaker 3>probably ten minutes and then didn't hear anything. When we

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<v Speaker 3>just got up and walked back toward was the house,

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<v Speaker 3>which was just odd. So that was the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I was out with Billy. Actually that was broad daylight,

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<v Speaker 3>like probably four in the afternoon. That night. We sat there.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a flear and I was looking around, my

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<v Speaker 3>first time using a fleer. It actually hurt my eye

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<v Speaker 3>and blinded me a little bit because I wasn't used

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<v Speaker 3>to it or what settings weren't right. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>I used it a few times. I didn't really see anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We were sitting there in some lawn chairs, and we

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<v Speaker 3>heard two very distinct whoops. What was odd about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard owls, but for some reason it ended very

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<v Speaker 3>just weird. So that was my first time out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The second time we went out there, we crossed some

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<v Speaker 3>other people's property. We took an ATV. We crossed some

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<v Speaker 3>people's property to get where we wanted to be set up.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that he had been out with another guy

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<v Speaker 3>the week before. He goes that property as well. They

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<v Speaker 3>to check on the trail cam. We brought some apples.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we brought a cantalope. We threw some apples

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<v Speaker 3>out in the field, put a candleope down. Checked on

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<v Speaker 3>for where he put the trail camera. It was actually gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going off what he said. I just met

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<v Speaker 3>this guy, so I want to not really initially trust

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<v Speaker 3>people when I first meet him. I'm pretty skeptical about

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<v Speaker 3>some things. We can tell a lot from people with

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<v Speaker 3>the way they talk sometimes if they're telling the truth

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<v Speaker 3>or not. But with Billy, he seemed like a really

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<v Speaker 3>legit guy. But still, when you first meet somebody, you're cautious.

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<v Speaker 3>But Treip Cambler was going what I noticed. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>look very far. We literally looked right inside the woodline

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<v Speaker 3>and we didn't go into the woods again. Later on

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<v Speaker 3>in this area. So we sat there that night, second

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<v Speaker 3>time out, brought the ATV, set up a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>things throughout those apples, and the woods just erupted. It sounded,

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<v Speaker 3>honestly like a bunch of monkeys. I honestly thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was a bunch of monkeys out there yipping and yapping.

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<v Speaker 3>It was odd. I've heard coyotes, it didn't sound like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that carried on for about I don't know, probably

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<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes. When we're out there in the field,

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<v Speaker 3>I look up with this sky and I see starlink

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<v Speaker 3>going by, and it's the first time I've seen it,

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<v Speaker 3>so I thought it was pretty cool. I was like, hey, Billy,

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<v Speaker 3>look starlink at school. Billy's the oh whatever. I was

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<v Speaker 3>looking up at starlink. I hadn't take the status because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what it was. It could have been,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was. There were two bright

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<v Speaker 3>lights in the sky. They were not starlink. Starlink was

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<v Speaker 3>going across. They were moving like this way a starlink

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<v Speaker 3>was going across, So starling passed. They started for They

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<v Speaker 3>were very bright beside each other. I'm gonna say it

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<v Speaker 3>was about airplane height. What they riding twenty thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>feet or something like that. That's stick gas. They dimmed

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<v Speaker 3>down and then they just went out. I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Take all the lights just went out. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>take to say it because I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 3>is being. After things died down a little bit, Billy says,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to go back to the house, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, sure, So we take that ATV get on

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<v Speaker 3>the highway. Got to take a little highway back up

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<v Speaker 3>to the house. We're pulling in the driveway. Literally, this

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<v Speaker 3>driveway is one of the coolest driveways. That sounds weird

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<v Speaker 3>to say, the kudzoo, the vines, the covering. I have

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of it. While it is. When you go in

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<v Speaker 3>this driveway, you cannot see anything. You're in the driveway

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<v Speaker 3>and you can't see on either side what's in the

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<v Speaker 3>woods because it's so covered. So Billy's driving really slow

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<v Speaker 3>on the driveway, barely even moving because he's checking out

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<v Speaker 3>these little new tree breaks. There's actually little trees, not

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<v Speaker 3>a big I would say, not even four foot tall

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<v Speaker 3>trees that are broke off and they're pushed off into

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<v Speaker 3>the driveway and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy's checking all this out. As he's driving really slow,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear to my left, which is a valley that

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<v Speaker 3>goes down into the swamp, and then there's another kind

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<v Speaker 3>of valley on the other side of the swamp that

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<v Speaker 3>goes into the big field that we were just at.

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<v Speaker 3>As he's driving really slow, in my mind, I hear

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<v Speaker 3>three people walking down in that little valley. It seriously

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<v Speaker 3>sounded like three people. It shocked me. But we're on

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<v Speaker 3>a ATV with Billy being in all this and not

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<v Speaker 3>knowing what these things are, if they exist, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much for me. There was so much of an uncertainty

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<v Speaker 3>of safety there that you're just in it. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you're going to react this, that, and the other.

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<v Speaker 3>As we go to the driveway kind of loops around

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<v Speaker 3>the house. There's a drop off that goes into the swamp.

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<v Speaker 3>From the driveway. There was a pontoon boat in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very big driveway. Billy says, let's just grab

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<v Speaker 3>these chairs, So grab some chairs off the pontoon boat,

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<v Speaker 3>set them up next to the swamp, probably to an

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<v Speaker 3>alfree feet from the drop off in the swamp. I

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<v Speaker 3>have never felt more unsettled ever than I was sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in those chairs. You could literally hear walking all around

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<v Speaker 3>you down in the swamp behind us, in the woods

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<v Speaker 3>that were on the other side of the driveway, to

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<v Speaker 3>the right. It was everywhere. He's just not even responding, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we're grabbing our chairs and setting them up in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we hear, Mommy straight up, something says

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<v Speaker 3>mommy in a high pitch voice like that. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't really a scary paranormal kind of It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that. It almost felt like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>mess with you. That's what it felt like. So we

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<v Speaker 3>set up our chairs, were sitting there for probably a

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<v Speaker 3>couple hours, about two and a half hours, and finally

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<v Speaker 3>it just got to where I was so unsettled and

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<v Speaker 3>Billy's follow asleep on me. I looked at Billy's falling

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<v Speaker 3>asleep on my dude, Wake up, man, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on here. Actually we're sitting there and there's

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<v Speaker 3>two pebbles thrown one by his chair and one in

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<v Speaker 3>front of my chair. Billy said, we're having pebbles thrown

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<v Speaker 3>at us or rockstone at us. I'd said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>just noticed that it didn't seem aggressive. It's weird. And

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<v Speaker 3>after a while sitting there, I just told Billy. I

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<v Speaker 3>was saying, man, I'm ready to get out of here, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had enough. When we stood up out of our chairs,

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<v Speaker 3>Billy was to my left. I get up and I

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<v Speaker 3>look right at the drop off. There's a tree. It's

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<v Speaker 3>very dark. It's ten thirty eleven at night. By a tree,

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<v Speaker 3>I could see the top of the tree and you

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<v Speaker 3>can see this guy and then you can actually see

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<v Speaker 3>the tree. But down in the swamp, I couldn't see

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<v Speaker 3>the tree. I just knew it was there, just from

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<v Speaker 3>seeing it up top. There were floodlights on the house,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was shining on the upper part of the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>But they didn't go down into the swamp. The lighting

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go that par be able to see the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>But I stood up and I see five sets of

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<v Speaker 3>eye shine. I initially saw four sets of eye shine

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<v Speaker 3>staring at me. As I'm looking at it, I see five.

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<v Speaker 3>I stood there in shock. I've literally got my shotgun

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<v Speaker 3>in hand, I've got my forty five on me when

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<v Speaker 3>these things are staring at me. Whatever it is staring

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<v Speaker 3>at me. I stood there and I said Billy's name.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like Billy, and I didn't say it loud

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<v Speaker 3>enough because he didn't respond. I wish I could have

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<v Speaker 3>this light to do over again because I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what I've done. But he didn't respond. He started to

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<v Speaker 3>walk off, and I was staring at him, letting my

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<v Speaker 3>eyes adjust, and I said, you know what, They're not

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<v Speaker 3>attacking me. Whatever it is there, it's not attacking me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to close my eyes for a few seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I'm seeing what I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>I want my eyes to adjust to the lighting. So

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<v Speaker 3>I closed my eyes for about four seconds and I

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<v Speaker 3>looked back and they're just there, big eyes and looked

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the face. Some of them were different.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone were closer, some of the farther apart. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>them were brighter than the others. It didn't look abnormal.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like regular eyeshine. It just looked like some

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<v Speaker 3>of them were brighter because of where they were in

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<v Speaker 3>relation to the blood lights on the house. They weren't blinking,

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<v Speaker 3>they were just staring. Then I just walked off. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't shine a flat slide, you know. I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 3>did I do something? But I just didn't. I walked off,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we walked back to the ATV and I

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<v Speaker 3>left a club down there, and I say, hey, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>keep taking me back down there because I'm not walking

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<v Speaker 3>down everyone myself to get that. So it took me

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<v Speaker 3>down there and we left that night. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most intense things I've been around firearms. I've

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<v Speaker 3>shot many of them, not growing up with them and

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<v Speaker 3>being running them often and using them often. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a lack of confidence and that I would be able

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<v Speaker 3>to use it properly, responsibly and not react in that

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<v Speaker 3>crazy way. And if we got into a situation. That

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<v Speaker 3>was one of my hang ups about being with Billy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like I got thrown in with the wolves.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, here you go, here they are. I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to put Billy's life in danger. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to put my life in danger, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to act stupid if something were to happen. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was partly when I was going through

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<v Speaker 3>all this with Billy. It took me for a loop, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Billy was lying. I thought he was playing me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I had actually set up a time a

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<v Speaker 3>while back to go on with you. I had canceled

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<v Speaker 3>or something in a while back. It was many months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>My head was spinning, man, because I just didn't understand

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<v Speaker 3>what was happening. I thought demonic. I thought kids playing me.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up who's laying this was? I saw owned

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<v Speaker 3>by DoD on their Department of Defense. Like I was spinning, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, something's going on here. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. And it literally got to me mentally

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<v Speaker 3>and emotionally. It shook me a little bit. The third

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<v Speaker 3>time that we went out there, it was weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't stay long in the woods. I literally walked out.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy told me, you never leave your man in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>He told me that, and I gave him time. I

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<v Speaker 3>gave him time to get out with me because when

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<v Speaker 3>we went in, we sat down. This is part of

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why I felt like Billy was playing me.

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<v Speaker 3>We sat down. Three minutes later, these things are making calls,

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<v Speaker 3>almost like whoop calls. It sounded like they were notifying

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<v Speaker 3>each other that me and Billy were in their area.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it sounded like. There were like three or

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<v Speaker 3>four calls that happened. But here's what Billy said when

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<v Speaker 3>we sat out. He said, so setting and he said

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<v Speaker 3>about taking them to start up, and then they start

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<v Speaker 3>doing it about a minute later, and I'm like, what wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That made you be in somebody's playing you.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, we sit there and then there's a loud

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<v Speaker 3>crash behind us. It almost sounded like a big branch

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<v Speaker 3>hitting the ground. I don't know how far away. You

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really tell. It was getting dark. We sat there.

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<v Speaker 3>More rocks were thrown at a stand, not hitting us

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<v Speaker 3>beside us, and then I hear heavy breathing pretty close,

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<v Speaker 3>really long, elongated, heavy breathing. I didn't say anything initially

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<v Speaker 3>after the crash, I told Billy, I said, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if I can see hearing this, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>may come on, just sit here. I already knew then

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<v Speaker 3>I was probably going to walk out, so I gave

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<v Speaker 3>him about seven to ten minutes to come with me.

413
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<v Speaker 3>When I heard the heavy breathing that sounded really close,

414
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<v Speaker 3>I looked at Billy's chest, I looked at his belly.

415
00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I looked at his chest before I saw anything, because

416
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see if it was him, and I

417
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 3>wanted down to hear that look at him and see

418
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 3>if it matched up. It didn't match up, I still

419
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 3>asked him. I said, Billy, are you breathing heavy? And

420
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.720
<v Speaker 3>he said no, So I just let it go. It stopped,

421
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.319
<v Speaker 3>and then I said, okay, Billy, I'm going to walk out.

422
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.839
<v Speaker 3>And I gave him about three more minutes and I

423
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.880
<v Speaker 3>walked out. When I walked down, I honestly felt I

424
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:50.279
<v Speaker 3>was like, dude, I don't know if I'm gonna make it.

425
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I had to turn my flashlight on. I was like, honestly,

426
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 3>we were probably about forty yards from the house, not

427
00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.440
<v Speaker 3>very far. I still had to go up down little

428
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.240
<v Speaker 3>hills and they're pretty steep. I was like, ty, little

429
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 3>legget out, I don't make it out. I'm getting out

430
00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:08.039
<v Speaker 3>of here. And so I walked out. There was a

431
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.079
<v Speaker 3>I guess the nephew of the owner of the house.

432
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.599
<v Speaker 3>Our third time out there. He had shown up and

433
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 3>put his RB in the driveway with that loud generator

434
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.160
<v Speaker 3>on it, and I was like, oh God, nothing's gonna

435
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 3>be happening in this line. It was so weird. The

436
00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:28.839
<v Speaker 3>difference of forty yards in the woods. And then I

437
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:31.319
<v Speaker 3>come out and the guy comes out of his RB,

438
00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:33.920
<v Speaker 3>the nephew of the owner who's living there, I guess

439
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.839
<v Speaker 3>at the time, in the RB on the driveway. He's, yeah,

440
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 3>I've a honeed these woods. I talked to him for

441
00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 3>a few minutes of honded these woods. I have never

442
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>seen anything. The difference of being there in the woods

443
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.839
<v Speaker 3>here is I don't know, man, it didn't make sense.

444
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, they're right freaking there. But anyway, Billy, about

445
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.960
<v Speaker 3>fifteen twenty minutes later, he comes out of the woods.

446
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.759
<v Speaker 3>He said, man, did you not get my message? Like,

447
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? He said, I messaged you,

448
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 3>I text you, and I called you. He said I

449
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 3>needed your help back there. I heard something behind me.

450
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 3>He said, I needed your help back there. And I'm like, dude,

451
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 3>I put my phone on silent because you told me

452
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to put it all silent when I was out here,

453
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 3>so I did. I don't need the text. I didn't

454
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.519
<v Speaker 3>hear oh call. It was upset man. Now Billy handled

455
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>it well, but you could tell he was upset each

456
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 3>night that I went out when we'd always go to

457
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 3>waffle House, afterwards and talk about what went on. I

458
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 3>only went out with him three times to that property.

459
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.039
<v Speaker 3>The third time I looked at him, I said, Billy,

460
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.400
<v Speaker 3>you got to tell me what's going on here. Man,

461
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.880
<v Speaker 3>this is something demonic. I'm not trying to take something

462
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 3>into my home, you know what I mean. So I

463
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>just shook up man and he looked at me. He said, Matthew,

464
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 3>He said, these are God created wild animals and they're

465
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 3>masters of the forest.

466
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Man.

467
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 3>I just took it in, and I didn't know what

468
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>to think, honestly, because I just seem too weird. Man.

469
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 3>You have stuff can happen around you. You can't see anything.

470
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 3>It didn't make sense. That was the last time I

471
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 3>went out with Billy. Billy and I had a fallen

472
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 3>out because I took people out to the property. I

473
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 3>broke my word. Took two people out to the property.

474
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I won't say who it was because I wanted to

475
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 3>figure out what the heck was going on. We went,

476
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what day it was, but it was

477
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 3>light outside. We crossed some other people's property. I didn't

478
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 3>cross the guy's property, the owner's property to get into there.

479
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even go on his property. The lady from

480
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 3>the owner of that property that we crossed came down there.

481
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 3>They said, what do y'all do with on my property?

482
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 3>Told her of what we were doing. She said, well,

483
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>just leave my deer on my turkey alone and y'all

484
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 3>go ahead. And we was like, okay, we got the okay,

485
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 3>let's just walk around in here. We didn't get to

486
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 3>go where I wanted to go, on the other side

487
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 3>of the creech where crek goes into the swamp. I

488
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>wanted to go on the other side of the creak

489
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 3>and explore those woods because that creek area that goes

490
00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 3>into the swamp is nobody's property. That's TVA owned, no

491
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 3>way's property. Nothing happened that day. I actually, after we

492
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 3>explored for about an hour, the men in the family

493
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>came down the property crossed and they respectfully, tinally, very

494
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 3>kindly said just please not cross our property. I've been

495
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>back there by myself once, and I'll go back there again.

496
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm going through the waterway area, I can set into

497
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 3>a recreational area and I get to kayak to the swamp.

498
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I've done it once already by myself, which is dumb,

499
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 3>but I just have to know more man, so I

500
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 3>have plans to I have met somebody named Drew who

501
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>does crypto warfare operations. I heard him on Tony Merkle's podcast.

502
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 3>I reached out to him. He's got a group of guys.

503
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 3>He used to be at a police officer in Colorado.

504
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 3>He had an encounter. Come to find out after contacting

505
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 3>him that he actually goes to the church that I

506
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 3>go to. He lives Murphy's World where I live because

507
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 3>of the church I go to. So I was like, man,

508
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I need to see Hell. I want to take somebody

509
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>out there. I'm not going to go alone. We won't

510
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 3>cross people's property, be on TVA land, go that route.

511
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I honestly feel like that the property where Billy's at

512
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 3>is being wasted for research purposes. It is what it is.

513
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 3>I respect Billy, He's a great guy. I broke my word,

514
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 3>which is wrong. I actually called him and told him

515
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 3>that I broke my word. I was like, dude, I

516
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>took people out to the property. I was honest with him.

517
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't going to lie to him, and that's why

518
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>we had a falling out. He's just had nothing to

519
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.000
<v Speaker 3>do with you after that, which is cool. I totally

520
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>get it. But that was basically me reacting out of

521
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.799
<v Speaker 3>just being uncertain, not trusting, didn't believe him. I wanted

522
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to figure out for myself. Since then I basically let

523
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 3>it go for a while. Man, it bugged me so

524
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 3>much that I said, man, it says saw my mind

525
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 3>too much. It's bugging me. I actually felt somewhat I

526
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know, man, heavy, burdened up, appressed almost like it

527
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>was just handy, and I was like, dude, I gotta

528
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>look this go. So I let it go for a while.

529
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 3>While wife and my three year old daughter we went

530
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 3>walking in the woods somewhere the park and I started

531
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 3>noticing something. I was like, this looks pretty similar to

532
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 3>what's going on and outside of Nashville where me and

533
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Billy went, And I was like, I got to come

534
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>back here and investigate and look at this, so I did,

535
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 3>so I let it go for a short time. I

536
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.400
<v Speaker 3>looked at this park for a little bit. I won't

537
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>mention that the park people would laugh their heads off, man,

538
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>they really would. But if people in the field that

539
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 3>we research, we investigate, we're into knowing the truth about

540
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 3>would go in there, they would they would see what's

541
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>going on. I learned alaw from Billy just in three

542
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 3>times going out with him. I learned how to notice

543
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 3>some things you do learn some things from podcasts. This

544
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 3>place that I'm going to now, I drive on eight

545
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>p forty every day where mercurysbor on Fronkline every day

546
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 3>and back, and I kept noticing this place. I kep

547
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.039
<v Speaker 3>noticing the woods for about a month. I said, I

548
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.359
<v Speaker 3>need to go in there because the woods are an

549
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>absolute wreck.

550
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

551
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:13.759
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back. After these messages, and I had

552
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>talked to through all this, trying to figure this all out,

553
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the truth about all that. I had talked to Darryl

554
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Denton too. He used to go with Billy to that property.

555
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 3>He told me. I talked to him on the phone

556
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 3>about three times. I think it was. He's told me

557
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>that him and Billy went out to that property upwards

558
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 3>of seventy eighty times together. I didn't know that. I

559
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't know who Billy was when he contacted me. I

560
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 3>just thought he's some random dude. So I talked to

561
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Darryl Denton a couple of times, and he probably only

562
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 3>talked to me because I knew Billy, and I went

563
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 3>out with Billy, but everywhere I got to talk to

564
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 3>him a couple of times. You need to look for

565
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>an X, like an X formation of some trees. He

566
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 3>told me some other things too, just a couple of pointers.

567
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>So as I'm driving down the air and State, I

568
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>thought I saw a formation of an X in the woods.

569
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 3>The weird thing is, man, I'll tell you exactly where

570
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 3>it is. I don't care who knew. I honestly don't

571
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>care who knows where I go. They want to go,

572
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 3>they can go. All I ask is you don't go

573
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 3>on dude's property. I don't go on this property. I

574
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 3>learned the hard way to do things right. When people

575
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>say don't cross their property, don't do it. If they

576
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 3>say don't tell anybody about the property, don't do it.

577
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Me personally, I want to know the truth, and I

578
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>don't care who figured it out. So my area where

579
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I go is literally if you look up Castle Win

580
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 3>in Ericton, Tennessee, it is right near there. I agree,

581
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>I drive by it every day. It sounds ridiculous that

582
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 3>it's by a castle. It really does. I always say

583
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I found no Arnia because it's by a castle. I

584
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>go in there one day, it was April sixth, on

585
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 3>the way to work. I said, I'm gonna stop in there.

586
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do some video. So I took some video.

587
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I've taken a lot of video in the woods because

588
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>of me trying to figure this out, investigate it, trying

589
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to figure out the truth. Just seven minute video. Man,

590
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 3>it's weird, that's all I can say. It's just weird.

591
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 3>A lot of things are blurry that I think this

592
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be blurry when it comes to Paradolia stuff. It's

593
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>in every video. You can see it everywhere. Man, I

594
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 3>pass up the majority of it. The one thing that

595
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I always keep coming back to is I don't know

596
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 3>if you got him. I sent some stuff to you.

597
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 3>But it's a clip of the videos. Three minutes and

598
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 3>fifteen seconds into the video as on video, and I

599
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 3>passed by this one tree. A right profile. I think

600
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>it is a right profile being man looking being. You

601
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 3>can see his right profile or from behind the tree. Now,

602
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I know you can't tell depth from that. I don't

603
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 3>think it's actually right behind that tree. I think it's

604
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 3>further back. But it transforms into something I don't know

605
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>what it is. I honestly wish I had the technology

606
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 3>to show people what I'm seeing in the video. But

607
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 3>when I slow it down, its right profile and you

608
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 3>can see its eye on the side of its head,

609
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and then it starts to turn my direction. As it's turning,

610
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 3>it almost looks like to me, it looks like it

611
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 3>turns into them, like a muzzle of a dog. It

612
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 3>starts to and then as it goes on, you can't

613
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>tell because it's so blurry and it's behind some leaves,

614
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 3>but there is a critter or a pump that's on

615
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 3>its head, on the right side of its head. It

616
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 3>looks like a pump like any animal in the animal Kingdom.

617
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Little baby postles right on the head, right on the

618
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.119
<v Speaker 3>back of their mom or dad or whatever. That's what

619
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>it looks like to me. Then you continue on, it

620
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 3>changes even more. I don't know. I will pass up

621
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 3>every bit of stuff that I actually think is some

622
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 3>stuff in the video, but I won't share because people

623
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 3>will laugh at all. This thing I always come back

624
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 3>to and go over it and go over it because

625
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I can literally see it's either wrinkles in the forehead

626
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>of the profile being that first comes out from the

627
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 3>tree or wrinkles in its forehead or its veins one

628
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 3>and the other. It's very evident to me that it's

629
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 3>something that changes form. One of the interesting things about

630
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>this video is I had about a nine second clip

631
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 3>I had sent to Darryl Denton, not this clip that

632
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about. It was about a nine second clip.

633
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>It was about a minute into the video and I

634
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 3>sent it to Darryl Dinton and I said, hey, make

635
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 3>can you look at a video for me? He said sure,

636
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 3>so I sent it to him. He said, Man, I

637
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know what that is. Jennifer Appleton Bigfoot Believers in

638
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Other Creatures I think is the Facebook group with Darryl

639
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 3>heads up. But Jennifer Appleton is one of that admins.

640
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 3>And she actually messaged me said, hey, will you send

641
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 3>me that clip that you said to Darryl. I said sure,

642
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 3>so I sent it to her. She wrote me back

643
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and she said, do you know what you got? I'm like, no,

644
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I see something, but I can't tell what it is.

645
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>She said, You've got a cloaked bigfoot babysitting dog man puffs.

646
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 3>And when she said that, I honestly was like, okay, whatever. Well, Billy,

647
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually the first time when I was out with him

648
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 3>in that property, he had told me about dog Man.

649
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, my dude, come on, bro, I'm trying to

650
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>figure out the truth about what do you talk about, Dolgtman?

651
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 3>You heard it? Whatever. So when Jennif Rapple Caon told

652
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 3>me that, I just took it in whatever. But later

653
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 3>on after I hadn't seen that clip yet, the one

654
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about the pro copying. But after I saw that,

655
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 3>I happened to step back and question. I said, Okay,

656
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 3>are there people that are able to see things that

657
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 3>others keep it? That's what it made me question. I

658
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I honestly don't know. I don't know that.

659
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.440
<v Speaker 3>But basically where I'm at now, man, I've taken video.

660
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>I've gone to different woods, different sections of the woods

661
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 3>in Murphysboro. When I was at the Sioux, I did

662
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>it with my kid. I'm just a wooded area. I

663
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 3>wanted to see, basically Paredolia, That's what I wanted to see.

664
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see how many paces I could pick out.

665
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to study my video that I first went

666
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>out to this one place near the castle versus all

667
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 3>these other wooded areas. I wanted to see the difference.

668
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 3>I just want to see. I want to figure it out.

669
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>This video near the castle, it's different, It's just different. I,

670
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.880
<v Speaker 3>honest to God, wish that there was somebody in this

671
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 3>field that knew more about this stuff, man, because if

672
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 3>they are just blesh and blood, I think they have

673
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 3>some extraordinary capabilities. That's basically where I'm at, man. I

674
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 3>had some encounters, threw me for a loop, got out

675
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.000
<v Speaker 3>of there for a while. I had to let it go,

676
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and now I just can't let it go. But in

677
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>my area near the castle where I go. One day,

678
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I went in there two days before and threw out

679
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>some apples. I threw them over the fence where I

680
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 3>won't go. One of them hit a tree that was

681
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 3>like right in front of me. I went two days

682
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 3>later to go in there again. Half of the apple

683
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 3>was eating, which I wasn't worried about. Their game trails

684
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 3>all through there a heavy game trail where the apple is,

685
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, deer ate it. I grabbed the apple.

686
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm filming, and I throw the apple. I say, here's

687
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 3>your apple, and I film it where I throw it

688
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 3>in where I won't go. I said, here's your apple,

689
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 3>and I go boop and threw it in. I didn't

690
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 3>pay attention or I wouldn't look it. I don't know.

691
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>I go over the video. You see the apple come down.

692
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 3>Something comes up and goes quickly back down. Speed at

693
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 3>which it went back down doesn't make sense. That's what

694
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>don't make sense. So it's like the apple goes down,

695
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.079
<v Speaker 3>something pops up and goes down really quick. I was

696
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 3>taking video and it shut off within a minute, I

697
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 3>think the first time, and I was like, oh, accidentally

698
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>hit it. I'll just be careful. It wouldn't let me.

699
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>You know how, sometimes if your video will freeze, you

700
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 3>don't allow you hit the button again to continue. It wouldn't.

701
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I had to exit out, go back into the app,

702
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 3>push start again. I was like, okay, I'm gonna be

703
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>careful here. It happened three more times, dudy. It happened

704
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.360
<v Speaker 3>like in a minute. It happened at thirty three seconds,

705
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 3>like fifty nine seconds, and then thirty something seconds again.

706
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>So after four times, I just quit video for about

707
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes when I just walked around and looked around

708
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 3>in there. I won't go far because of what I

709
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 3>got on the video. Then the first time plus I've

710
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 3>tried to contact the owner of the property. This property

711
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 3>is a business as well, so when I reached out

712
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.039
<v Speaker 3>to try to get access to his property, I didn't

713
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 3>know who I was talking to. I couldn't actually find

714
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 3>his information, his personal information and phone over email or anything,

715
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>so I was vague about asking for access. I was like,

716
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I sent an email and said, hey, there's a piece

717
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 3>of property. I wonder if it's yours. Would you be

718
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 3>able to tell me. They said, yeah, he'll get back

719
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 3>with you. This that, and the other I mean is

720
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 3>there's Mike Freeman who owns that castle. He got back

721
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>with me and said I'd taken a video and I'd

722
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 3>like to show you what I see. He says, send

723
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 3>a clip of the video. So I sent a clip.

724
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I said, man, if you don't have the capability to

725
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.679
<v Speaker 3>zoom in to zoom out that it happens so fast,

726
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to see it. I said it kindly,

727
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.440
<v Speaker 3>and then after that, I was like, I'm not a hunter,

728
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a fisherman. I'm not looking for a place

729
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 3>to do that. I would just like to walk this area,

730
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 3>That's all I said. I got no response, so I

731
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 3>still go there. I just don't go into his property.

732
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I stay on the outskirts of it. She indicated by fans.

733
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 3>It's literally a wreck. And there in one of the

734
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>things I thought was a nice coincidence. I'll say, there's

735
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 3>a guy that I had comment on a post of

736
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 3>his in the group. The day that my camera's shut

737
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 3>off four times, I don't had message Jim. We hadn't

738
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 3>talked at all for seven weeks. The day that my

739
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 3>camera shut off, I get home and I get a

740
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 3>message from him like alablood. I'm like, dude, this is

741
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 3>not a continuous relationships. He said. It cracks me up

742
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 3>when people said they had to run out of the

743
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 3>woods run away from these things. He said, these things

744
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 3>are so fast. If they wanted you, they can happy.

745
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 3>They'll run by your camera and shut it off three times.

746
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 3>He said. It happened to me when I was trying

747
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 3>to video a footprint the other day they shut it

748
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 3>off three times. That just happened to me today. It

749
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>was just a coincidence.

750
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to Billy and that initial property.

751
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>A couple of things, I guess. The first thing for me,

752
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 1>for the owner of the property, did they know what

753
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was going on on? The property, what you guys were

754
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 1>out there, did they have those kind of experiences with

755
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 1>these things?

756
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Then?

757
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 1>How did Billy get involved in that? I guess the

758
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>second part of that question would be what was Billy's

759
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>end game for this? Because it seems very odd behavior

760
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>what you described the three times you guys went out.

761
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He just goes out, He sets a chair, he won't

762
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>let you go into the woods, he didn't want to

763
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>go pursue anything. Just kind of seems like he's almost

764
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a voyeuristic sort of relationship that he has with these things.

765
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Can you talk a little bit about that where the

766
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>owner's aware of it? Then how did Billy get involved

767
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>with them and figure out what was going on? I

768
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 1>guess clarity would be the word I'm looking forward. Did

769
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you get any clarity on what the end game for

770
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Billy was with these things and what kind of experiences

771
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>he had with them?

772
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Billy has known the owner. I'm not going

773
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 3>to mention his name. He's known the owner for about

774
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>ten years. He kept asking Billy just to come hunt

775
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>with them on his property. Billy hunts, and that other

776
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 3>guy did too. He said, here, come through her all

777
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 3>the din there's come hunt with me. But in the

778
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 3>meantime he also told Billy. He said, hey, I've got

779
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 3>these things on my property, these creatures on my property.

780
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Billy told me that when he told him that, he

781
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, whatever, man, he said. I didn't not

782
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 3>believe him because he's my friend, but I didn't believe

783
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>him because he was unsure. Billy said he was hunting

784
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 3>and he saw a female. He said it was by accident.

785
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>He saw female at breast. He said it shocked him.

786
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 3>But for Billy, it was like, I really got to

787
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>know the truth. Did I see what I was actually seeing?

788
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Billy actually went out there by himself, and he stood

789
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 3>in the woods by himself. He has a picture of

790
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>the female now it's at nights with the flash with

791
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 3>this phone. It's a pretty good picture. She's big. He

792
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>sat up there all night long. He said. It was

793
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 3>about four in the morning when she came up near him,

794
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 3>saw him, and then took off the other direction, just

795
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 3>immily saw him, moved on and that's when he snapped

796
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 3>the picture. I was like, how'd you get that picture?

797
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Now?

798
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>I just got lucky. We were at wall House when

799
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 3>I was asking him about it, and I said, man,

800
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 3>what did you feel what was going on in with

801
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 3>you when you saw this? Saying he didn't say a word.

802
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 3>He actually just with his hands facts like he was

803
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 3>taking off his belt, put it her on his chest,

804
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and strapped his heart in with what he did. So

805
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 3>that's how Billy came about the knowledge that they were there.

806
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>He came to know for a fact for himself that

807
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 3>they were there because he went in there by himself.

808
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 3>He is also had another incident where he said that

809
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.800
<v Speaker 3>he thinks that he accidentally got in between a mama

810
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 3>and the baby because daddy was standing up. He was

811
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 3>over there crouching down. Billy said, I got in a

812
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 3>position where I think I shouldn't have been. The mail

813
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 3>stood up and started to like almost not lunge again,

814
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 3>but just act like he was going to coak towards

815
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 3>his weight. Billy said, it was getting dusk. I had

816
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 3>to raise my ar up and flip my light on.

817
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>It was on my ar, he said. As soon as

818
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I raised my r flipped my light on, he said,

819
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 3>that thing went immediately back down. It knew what that

820
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>thing was, what the firearm was. That's what he's told me.

821
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>He is has scene eight of them in this area

822
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 3>this property. As far as Billy's end game, honestly, that's

823
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 3>why I think it's been wasted, man, because his endgame.

824
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I've asked him, I said, what's your goal of all this?

825
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 3>When we went out three times? What's your goal? He said, Man,

826
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I want to feed the female from my hand. I

827
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 3>want to feed Eric Kenelo from my hand. I'm might okay,

828
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I can get a goal like that. In the bigger picture, man,

829
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 3>it's being wasted.

830
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

831
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

832
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 3>There's so much activity there that it's like, what are

833
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 3>you doing? There's no research, there's experimental, personal research, experience

834
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>encountering is what's going on there? There's no research being

835
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.360
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't consider myself a researcher an investigator. I

836
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 3>love to go out and I want to find out

837
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 3>the truth. I do what I did. I really feel

838
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 3>like that place is just be wasted.

839
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 1>It makes me wonder, man, because I hear these stories

840
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>from people. I've talked to people that work in close museum.

841
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I've obviously talked to Cliff and he's told me he's

842
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 1>seen some really wild video and photographs from trail cams

843
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that people have that will never see the light of day.

844
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It hurts my heart to hear you say that this

845
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>guy's got a picture of this female. It's a pretty

846
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>damn good picture that probably only the few people that

847
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he chooses to show will ever see it. I certainly

848
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>get that, because as one who put forward my own

849
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence in the past, I know how people are. They

850
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 1>immediately come out of the woodwork. It's all bullshit.

851
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 3>You created it.

852
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It's fake, that's not real.

853
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>You did that.

854
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I get that. I don't fault the man for that.

855
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>It just irks me so badly. It's not even a

856
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 1>personal thing with anybody who has it, because I totally

857
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>get why they don't do it. I just hate that

858
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>it happens because there's so much I feel there's so

859
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>much evidence out there. I've said that since day one.

860
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe there's a lot more out there than we'll

861
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ever know. It happened to me there was a gentleman

862
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>who came up to me. I think it was a

863
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Smoking Mountain Bigfoot conference a couple of years ago, had

864
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>some footage from his friend's trail camp that absolutely blew

865
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>me away, and he would not share it. He literally said,

866
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to tell me what you think

867
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this is. Do you think this could be a sasquatch?

868
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, holy shit, dude, that is clearly a sasquatch.

869
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is okay. I'm done.

870
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

871
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting my phone away. I'm not sharing it with anybody.

872
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to give it to you. No you can't

873
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>take a picture of it. No you can't have it.

874
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>And it just blows me away, man, because I believe

875
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that there are areas very similar to what you talked about.

876
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I just had a phone conversation today with Logan. Logan's

877
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.599
<v Speaker 1>been on the show a couple of times. He's the

878
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>one who put the cameras up in Radium up at

879
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Todd Standing's research area, and he's looking for other places

880
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.679
<v Speaker 1>at Logan and I were talking about some other things,

881
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's actually approached me about possibly doing a camera

882
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>project here on our land in North Carolina. I'm a

883
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>little apprehensive about that because I live here, but we're

884
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 1>going to have that conversation. He was talking about that

885
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he's found a couple of other locations, but he's looking

886
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>for locations just like you're talking about. I guarantee he

887
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>could go in there and put enough cameras up, he

888
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>would probably catch evidence of these creatures, probably damn good

889
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 1>evidence video and or still photographs and even audio, because

890
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>he sent me a bunch of stuff he's gotten from radium,

891
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're excellent cameras. But it'll never happen because people

892
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>will not allow it to happen. And so it just

893
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>frustrates me.

894
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Man, Yeah, I agree with that, and it is frustrating.

895
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I just let it be. What I do know is

896
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 3>that the group of guys that I'm talking to, they're

897
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 3>ready to go. I'll just put it that way. You

898
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 3>can look them up. They actually some of them do

899
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.519
<v Speaker 3>security for our church. They train and stuff together. So

900
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't care what Billy thinks. You can leave

901
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 3>this in or cut it out. I don't care it's

902
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 3>being wasted. I'm honestly to the point, man. I used

903
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.159
<v Speaker 3>to say, never a body, never take one out, get

904
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 3>a body. I'm to the point there to where if

905
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 3>there's an opportunity that I could take some guys out here,

906
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say safe, but if you get a body,

907
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 3>it is what it is. I don't know if that'll

908
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 3>ever happen, man, And this guy's told me that they

909
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 3>actually have shot one follow the blood trail. They believe

910
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:56.840
<v Speaker 3>that another one of them picked up the body and

911
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 3>ran off with it because they lost the blood trail.

912
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what. And then two of these guys,

913
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 3>but I'm willing to try it out and take them

914
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 3>out to my spots that I go to. Even though

915
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm really intrigued about the spot that I went to

916
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 3>with Billy, I very much know that I've got some

917
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 3>activity in my location. I don't get to spend enough time.

918
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I'm not going to stay out there alone.

919
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to happen. So unless I have some

920
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 3>other people stay with me overnight, I'm not damn. Plus, man,

921
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 3>there's no where to park. I literally pull on the

922
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 3>side of the interstate to go in there. Cops who

923
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 3>got behind me before sheriff. I come out of the

924
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 3>woods and blue lights are going on my Oh crap,

925
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I got to come out of the woods now. And

926
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>we're like, you're in the wood, you broke down, You're good.

927
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

928
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Man.

929
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 3>He said you had to go in the woods. I like, yeah,

930
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 3>I had to go in the woods, you know, like,

931
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:45.719
<v Speaker 3>all right, let's see la.

932
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Or I may or may not have talked a little

933
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:49.519
<v Speaker 1>bit of shit about you when you left us a

934
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>voicemail on your way into your research area over on

935
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that boot podcast. That may or may not happen, Folks,

936
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I cannot confirm or did not. I don't care, man, Matthew.

937
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I appre shit you coming on and sharing your experiences. Man,

938
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I too, like you, believe that area is definitely being wasted.

939
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>If a third of what you said is actually happening there,

940
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>then it definitely needs to be explored. But I appreciate

941
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you coming on and chair man, I've had a blast

942
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 1>talking to you.

943
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Man, I really appreciate you, Brian, And I apologized

944
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 3>to you for the first time that I reached out

945
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 3>to you and never went on and I had some

946
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 3>crazy stuff going on in my head. Man, I appreciate

947
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 3>you and reaching back out and doing this, and I

948
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.880
<v Speaker 3>look forward to hearing your experiences encounter what happened there.

949
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you, Brian.

950
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking forward to telling him.

951
00:51:34.400 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Talking in
