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the man of Metrics. We got maxed Chadwick on the

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line representing Pro Football Focus. Max, how are you there?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys doing doing good?

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Speaker 1: Man? It's a beautiful day in Brigham Young University Country.

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BYU going too the Big twelve championship game versus Texas Tech.

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Let's preview this game. I know you guys have probably

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delved into it on your podcast. We advise everyone to

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subscribe to the Pro Football Focused podcast with Max Chadwick

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and his crew. How do you see this game right now?

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When you set up these two teams side by side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be an awesome game on Saturday. I

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think they're gonna be a lot closer than the game

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earlier in the regular season between these two teams. But yeah,

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it should be a really fun game. I think BYU

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has to perform better in the trenches they did in

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that lost tax attach a little while ago. If they

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do that, they certainly have a shot at taking down

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the Red Raiders on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: How do the grading? How does Pro Football Focus view

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this game from a great standpoint versus the their respective

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strength of schedules. How have these two teams great out

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through the regular season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Texas Tech. The number one thing you

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got to know about them is that they have the

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best defensive line in college football, and I'm sure BYU

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fans are very familiar with that after that game. They

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were dominant in that game too, and it is the

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highest great defensive line in the country. David Baylor, their

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edge rusher, is going to be a first round pick.

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He leads the country in pressures. Romelo Height is second

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in PFF grade among edge rushers as well. Then you've

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got a couple of great d tackles in the middle

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of it too, like a j Holmes junior who's been

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outstanding for them this year, and Lee Hunter has been

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really good for them this year too. So that defensive

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line you got to stop them first. I know they

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have a great linematter behind them too, and Jacob Ardriguez,

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who I think should be a Heisman finalist right now,

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but you need to win with line of scurbage. The

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BA has got a great offensive line. It's been probably

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the best part of their entire offense this year. Is

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that offensive line. They have to perform a lot better

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than they did against Texas Tech in their loss a

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few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: BYU has a true freshman quarterback, Baron Blockmeier. That is,

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I believe he's the highest rated freshman in college football

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in any position group. What do we expect from Bear

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in this game? He'll he obviously got to have a

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better game than he did the first go around in Lubbock.

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He's on a neutral field this time. This go around,

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it should be fifty to fifty in the stands. Who

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is Bear Bachmeyer this year? What do you like about him?

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Why is he one of the best, if not the

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best freshman in college football this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been great this year and I think, you know,

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the one thing I'll say about him is that, you know,

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he's just been put in a tough spot going into

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the year, and he's responding very very well to it. Right,

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of him. You know, he's not gonna go above him

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beyond his job requirement. He's not gonna lose games for you.

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think this game, especially, you know, if you go back

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and watching Texas that game where they lost. They kind

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of I thought, hid bear Bachmeyer a little bit too

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much in that game and try to establish a run

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a little bit too much. If I'm BYU tomorrow, I'm

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probably coming out and throwing the ball more than expected, honestly,

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just trying to catch textatteck off their guard a little

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bit and so they just can't pin their ears back

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and run defense and then stop the rungs. They're one

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of the best run defending teams in college football. I

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think if you kind of try to surprise them a

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couple of times and use some play action and have

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bear Bachmeier rolled out a little bit, that might be

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the way I would go about it if I was

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be willing to kind of have the element surprise on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be intriguing, no doubt about it. Why

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do you think bear Bachmeyer is not listed as one

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of the true freshman one of the freshman finalists for

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the Shawn Alexander Award when he's grated out so well

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for PFF, He's got over three thousand yards he's accounted for. Man,

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the stats here but I want to say he's accounted

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for almost thirty touchdowns between being on the ground and

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then through the air through his passing forays. Ohay, fourteen

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touchdowns through the air and then an additional eleven, so

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twenty five total touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, that's a good question. You know,

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a true freshman award that is a red shirt freshman

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are included in that. So I think Julian Say is

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going to run away with that award. Probably they are

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including red shirt freshman. But yeah, I'm no doubt a

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bad I think I would argue that bear Bachmeyer might

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have been the best true freshman quarterback that we've had

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this year. I think he and Jaron Kave Sunkap hotel

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really good this year. You know, I know a lot

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of you are You fans think he was snubbed for

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that award. I might agree with them too on that case,

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but I think because it's including redcherd freshman too, I

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think that's probably why bear Bachmeyer wasn't among I believe

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like the five finalists they have for that award.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So who would he have replaced? De John Lee

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Alabama cornerback, Malachi Tony, Miami wide receiver Drew Mestemaker, North

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I think all those guys,

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it the best true freshman or is the best

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redhired freshman?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So I think, honestly, if you're giving its the best

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true freshman, I would argue probably mal chay TONI the

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wide receiver at Miami. He was absolutely incredible this year

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and he might have entered next year as the second

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best receiver in the country behind Jeremiah Smith. Honestly, that's

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how good he was this year. But yeah, if you're

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giving the best true freshman, I would definitely at Beart

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saw in college football this year because he was outstanding, honestly,

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and I believe because we're letting Rechard freshman also be

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finalists for that award. That's why you see guys with

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Julians saying CJ. Carr, Drew Messmaker, even though they're in

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their second years in college, there's still technically freshman as

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racier freshman. That's why you're seeing those guys included for

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that war too.

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Speaker 1: L J. Martin is healthy this game versus Texas Tech.

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He was not all that healthy in the in the

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Tech game the first go around in Lubbick. How is

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he graded out for PF versus his peers and he

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was the Big twelve offensive player of the year him

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being one hundred percent healthy? How impactful could that be?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really impactful. You know, he's been a really good

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running back all year for BYU. He's been outstanding at

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delivering yards after contact. So having him healthy and fully

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healthy out there is huge for BYU. But once again,

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it all stems to the offensive line. Because I don't

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care how good LG. Martin is, and he is a

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fantastic running back, It's hard to do a lot if

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your offensive line gets dominated the way BYUS did in

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that last loss to Texas Tech. So having it fully

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healthy is absolutely massive and that will be huge tomorrow

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in that game, but you need the offensive line to

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perform a lot better. I believe BYU only had sixty

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seven rushing yards against Texas Tech and that loss. That

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was a season low for BYU in that game. So

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it should be better with LG. Morton healthy, But it

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won't be that much better if the offensive line can't

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perform a lot better than what they did in the

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last game.

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Speaker 1: We got. Pro Football Focus is next. Chadwick here on

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ESPN the Fan discussing college football BYU versus Texas Tech.

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Texas Tech is a twelve and a half point favorite

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in Arlington, and what makes you believe that by you

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could maybe pull this off? Like, do you have any tenets?

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to by for BYU to be Tech on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think two things. I think both of it well

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from the trenches. One, like I mentioned time and time again,

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the office want has to play better. You know, you

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can't have Bear Bachmer getting hit as much as he did.

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I believe you got hit five times in that Texas

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Tech game, which is the season high for BYU and

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again season low and rushing yards too, So by all accounts,

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is not a great day for It was the worst

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game of the year for Yu's offense. This year, that

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offensive one has to perform better and the other side too.

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Texas Tech has been running a lot of gap scheme

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runs this year, and I think b Yus don a

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great job depending that it wasn't as good in the

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last game he played against them, But I don't think

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BYU defense is that bad honestly in that game, I

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think it just kind of got tired out from the

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offense not doing anything really for their game. So play football,

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you know, cons like the last game they had in

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that one too, which that was a huge play in

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that game. If you stop the run for Texas Tech

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and force Baron Morton into obvious passing downs. He has

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not been that great this year, and I think BYU

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might have the quarterback advantage honestly in this game a

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Bear Bachmeyer over Baron Morton. But you've got to make

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Texas Tech rely on their quarterbacks. If they do, that's

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an avenue for BYU secondary, which has been really good

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over the middle of the field all year. That's an

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avenue for them to play a lot better. So I

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think the BYU linebackers are kind of spotlighting in this game.

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not let Texas Tech run all over them because if

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that does happen, it could turn into a low scoring game.

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And maybe bear Backmeyer can have a few magical plays

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in him and just barely edge out Baron More in

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that regard.

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Speaker 1: If you look at nil offerings, I mean this is

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kind of a David versus Goliath type of game. Texas Tech,

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I think spent a reported twenty eight million BYU was

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at most ten million, and so obviously BoA's a heavy

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doll in this game. But they're gonna need their best

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players to play at the at their in their best

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game of the season order to beat Tech, who have

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been per pff bo's best offensive and defensive players thus

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far this season, like top three or four guys who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, don't. I don't if you don't have

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the greatest in front of me. But I can tell

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you that LGB Moran has been phenomenal, Bear Bachmer has

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been phenomenal. I know Bruce Mitchell, their center has been

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one of the highest greatest centers that we have in

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college football this year. So he's been great. Uh. He's

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been a big part of that offensive line, which is normally,

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they weren't as good as Defensively, it's all about the

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middle of the defense. Honestly, those linebackers like Isaiah Glasker

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and Jack Kelly and those guys and filled south Soathkawaala

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and Tanner Wall safety. Uh, they have been terrific too.

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been phenomenal this year. The offensive line for isn't great.

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good true freshman quarterback in Barrett Backmeyer. Two, they're gonna

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have to play big I'm tomorrow to pull off this

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game and for BAU to be sent to the playoff.

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now where they have to win in order to make

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the playoff. I don't personally think they should be in

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that position right now. They should probably be in regardless

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if they win or lose tomorrow, but that's the spot

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they're in right now by the committee, and they have

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to beat Texas Tech tomorrow and they need those players

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just mentioned and a lot more of them to be

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that BYU has to beat Tech

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in order to get into the College Football Playoff? Is

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that fair? I mean, I think this is the only

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eleven and one team in the College Football Playoff era

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that has not been ranked in the top ten. What

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makes this year so different?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a good question. You know, I

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personally would have them. I have them I think like

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eight on my personal rankings. And I mean, I'm of

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the belief that, you know, whoever makes it to conference

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championship weekend should not be removed from the playoffs or

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losing it. So if you're a ready in the playoff

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and if you lose your conference title game, you shouldn't

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be removed because I think it's a reward for what

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you've thought all year to be able to play in

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that game. You should not be punished for playing that game. So,

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for example, like Alabama, if they lose tomorrow Georgia, I

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would not remove them for the playoff because they're in

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the playoffs already. I would already have BYU in the

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playoff two, and I would not remove them if they

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lost Texas Tack again and finished off eleven in two.

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tell you right now the fact that BYU is already

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out of the playoffs at number eleven. They need to

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win tomorrow. If they lose, there's obviously no way they're

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going to move up into the top ten. And you

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have to move into the top ten in order to

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make the playoff as in that large team. So the

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only way for BYU to make the playoff tomorrow is

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to have an automatic qualifier by beating text at Tech

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and winning the Big twelve if they if they lose

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to Text Attack, there is even though I would personally

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put them in, I'm sure you would put them in.

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I'm sure all your listeners put them in. The committee

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has proven time and time again they will not put

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in BYU if they lose Texas Tech tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, look, we get into conspiracy theories as to

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why byus on the outside looking in, Whether it's like

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brand equity, right conference affiliation by he was an independent

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for a long time. Some people will throw out the

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faith element religious elements. Some people will say, hey, b Yu,

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just they just haven't been in a power for they

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haven't been in the power for power five world long

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enough to have the the equity. The other theory is

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Mark harlan Uh the the eighty for Utah. You know,

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you take into account all of his comments about he

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feels like the BYU Utah game was stolen from Utah

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at at in Salt Lake last year and has never

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been all the all that friendly or positive towards b

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Yu even in the ensuing years. B Yu, by the

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skin of their teeth, they think maybe beat Utah the

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year that he's not advocate. What do you chalk it

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up to when you hear all those things. Obviously a

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lot of conspiracies, how valid are they? But how do

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you chalk it up?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think the committee has any you know,

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I don't think there is a conspiracy or it'thing like

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that to keep schools like BYU out of it. There

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might be inherent biases that the committee members have.

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Speaker 1: And you know what they're from, Yeah one, Where where

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would those stem from them? What are the inherent biases?

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The human fallibility anecdotal element of it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, for example, like a program like Notre Dame, right,

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you know, we always affiliate them because they're one of

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the greatest programs in college football, right, we always affiliate

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them with success and if they go Since they're right

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off ten straight wins, even though I would argue those

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ten wins aren't as impressive as what BYU has done

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this year. Who's eleven and one by the way, this year,

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that's probably why they're getting over a BYU. I don't

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know again, I personally would have BYU the top ten.

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I think the fact that they're eleven to one, like

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you said, the fact that they their only losses on

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the road to a top five team in the country

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by then their own committee's rankings, the fact that they

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beat a top fifteen team by the committee' rankings, in

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fact that they beat another top twenty team in Arizona

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and utub obviously the two top twenty seams I just

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mentioned by the committee's rankings, and some other great wins too,

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like obviously they got a wins over Sincinnata on the

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road too, for that was a really good win. Again,

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I don't personally get it why BYU is being disrespected

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like this and not in the top ten. But that's

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how the Committee's done it. I can't answer to you know,

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any conspiracy theories of what the Committee's doing right now.

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All I can tell you right now is that I

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very much disagree with how BYU has been treated so far.

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And again, I think tomorrow should be all about seating

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for BU and Texas Tech. I think both of them

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should be guaranteed to make the playoff. But the way

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the Committee's ranked right now BYU is pretty much is

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a de facto playoff game for BOU tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. BYU football is number six

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in the country against the spread this year the Vegas

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spread the lines. How would you evaluate that number six?

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Texas Tech, by the way, he's number one in the country,

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Ohio State number two, Utah State number three, North Texas

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for Vanderbilt five. BYU's nine and three against the spread,

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Sandygo State's at seven, Western Tech, Kentucky eight, Western Michigan nine,

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Hawaii ten, Alabama is actually eleven, Iowa twelve, South forward

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to thirteen, Toledo fourteen, and it's say from Michigan fifteen.

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What do you make of that stat you're a man

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of metrics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it says a lot to the program

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Kalina Stockey's built and honestly, the expectations for b what

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you going into the year. I mean, I'll admit it

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to you guys. I think I went on the show

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preseason and you guys asked me, like, what are yours

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your outlooks from the team this year? And I said

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six and six, seven and five maybe, like I thought,

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you know, with all the the Jake wrestlof stuff going on,

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and how I was very much worried about the quarterback

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room going into I was like, yeah, they have a

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lot of talent which will drag this team to a

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bowl game, but I don't know at quarterback they have enough.

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And Bear Bachmeier has proven me wrong, and that entire

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BOUS team has proven me wrong. Kalin Stockey's proven me wrong,

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and credit to them. Man, this is two years in

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a row now where I've been shocked by how good

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b YU has been this year. Maybe that's another part

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of to it for the committee is that you know,

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by you didn't enter this year as the top twenty

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five team in the country. Notre Dame did enter as

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a top ten team, and you know, maybe that's why

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the committee's just kind of taken too long to get

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adjusted to that. But I think, yeah, that that statue

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just told me nine to three gets the spread as

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Vegas too, being like, yeah, we don't really believe in

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BYU right now, but they continuously have proven them wrong

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time and time again and what like three quarters of

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their games so far this year, and we'll see if

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they can do it again tomorrow. And again, it sucks,

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that's the fact of a playoff game for BYU. But

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you know what, at least you're in that spot this year,

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in a spot where you can win and get into playoffs,

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whereas other schools like Miami for example, they might be screwed. Right,

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So I think BYU at least has the opportunity to

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win and get into the playoff, whereas other schools that

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are on the outside looking in right now, they don't

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get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Max Chadwick here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network representing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. I host the PFF College Football Show,

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which is on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcast too,

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and we're doing a live show. We did one live

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show today actually going over to the top recruiting classes

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and the top recruits in the country, and then another

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which will be ten am Eastern time. I believe this

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can't wait for it. I mean, we're gonna be very

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very close to the playoff right now.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of feels surreal, crazy times in the

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college football world right now. Max Chadwick, ladies and gentlemen,

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thanks for joining us. Great segment as always, Thanks Ben.

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There you have it. That's Pro Football Focuses, Max Chadwick

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and great segment, great commentary. Andrew Peterson. I want to

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bring you in loop you in here and get your

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thoughts on it. Anything that stood out to you in

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that interview that you want to piggyback off of great

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that you guys talked about at the

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end there. I liked his comment that maybe it's the

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starting point where BYU is like, this is he He's right?

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This is the second year in a row that BYU

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was shocked the nation and shocked everyone. To be honest,

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I don't think anyone expected Boa to be eleven and

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one this year. Nobody expected them to go eleven and

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two last year. I'm just wondering, does if BYU is

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able to to keep the core together, say you've got

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bear Bachmeers say l J. Martin comes back, does BYU

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get their respect going into next season, or does something

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happen again where everyone finds a way to not believe

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in Byu. I think, honestly, the real, the real, the

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real villain here isn't necessarily a conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: It's the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Poll and the fact that the College Football Playoff Committee

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is not working hard enough, in my opinion, to do

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anything other than look at the ap pole a couple

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weeks before their show and then go off of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an intriguing situation, no doubt about it.

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It's a confusing situation for many of Kugarnation. You just

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want to make sense of it all. You just want transparency.

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You want accountability in life, don't you. I mean all

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of us want transparency, accountability until we're the ones that

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had maybe you have to be held accountable for actions

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or decisions, right, but they should, you know, they're the

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ones that hey sign up to be committee members. There

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should be a bit more. I want to hear from

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each and every one of them and see how they voted. Well,

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I want that's what I want to see. I want

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that's what I want to see.

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Speaker 3: What I want the College Football Playoffs show to be

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is film of them actually in their discussions, kind of

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like we're getting film of the referee reviews, the official

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reviews during games in the ACC. I think they're having

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the actual like fans get to hear what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: I think the Big Twelve is doing that soon.

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Speaker 3: I think we should do that with the Playoff committee discussions.

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Put out the film, film their discussions, film how they

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come up with these rankings, so that we actually have

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some transparency.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, guys, let's take a brief time out. We'll

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